NFL Stock Exchange: An NFL Draft Podcast - Draft Grades for ALL 32 TEAMS for the 2026 NFL Draft

Episode Date: April 27, 2026

Trevor Sikkema and Connor Rogers reveal their 2026 draft grades! WE'RE TRYING TO GET 75K SUBS ON OUR YOUTUBE CHANNEL BY MAY! PLZ HELP US BY SUBSCRIBING TO OUR YOUTUBE CHANNEL! It's 100% free and helps... us out a bunch. Thanks! JOIN THE NFLSE DISCORD! https://discord.gg/AjqamEUyEW https://discord.gg/AjqamEUyEW?feature=description if the link doesn't work for you, just search 'NFLStockExchange' on discord or search 'NFLStockExchange discord' on Google and it'll pop up timestamps: 0:00 Intro 7:36 Arizona Cardinals 13:54 Atlanta Falcons 19:55 Baltimore Ravens 25:34 Buffalo Bills 30:59 Carolina Panthers 36:17 Chicago Bears 43:27 Cincinnati Bengals 49:01 Cleveland Browns 5 5:33 Dallas Cowboys 1:00:22 Denver Broncos 1:04:47 Detroit Lions 1:10:08 Green Bay Packers 1:13:46 Houston Texans 1:18:31 Indianapolis Colts 1:23:26 Jacksonville Jaguars 1:32:11 Kansas City Chiefs 1:36:27 Las Vegas Raiders 1:41:11 LA Chargers 1:45:46 LA Rams 1:52:06 Miami Dolphins 1:57:29 Minnesota Vikings 2:01:34 New England Patriots 2:04:29 New Orleans Saints 2:08:09 New York Giants 2:11:42 New York Jets 2:16:23 Philadelphia Eagles 2:20:58 Pittsburgh Steelers 2:24:47 San Francisco 49ers 2:29:32 Seattle Seahawks 2:32:23 Tampa Bay Buccaneers 2:36:22 Tennessee Titans 2:43:41 Washington Commanders 2:47:59 Outro Follow us on X: https://x.com/NFLSEshow https://x.com/TampaBayTre https://x.com/ConnorJRogers We appreciate each and every one of you ADDICTS :) For business or other inquiries, reach us at nflseshow@gmail.com Hosted by Simplecast, an AdsWizz company. See pcm.adswizz.com for information about our collection and use of personal data for advertising.

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Starting point is 00:00:00 If you thought the Riggler wasn't real before, waiting until you hear me talk about Rubin Bain going number 15 to the Tampa Bay bucket. Ruben Bain's walk to the podium was like Omar and the wire. I was like, oh my God, everyone's in big, big trouble. He is pissed off. Oh, the NFL Stock Exchange show. I'm Trevor Sycambe. That's Connor Rogers for what is the biggest episode of the year.
Starting point is 00:00:40 rounds one through seven in the books. Three days of the 2026 NFL draft have come and gone, which means it's time for the grades, baby. It's time to go back to school, and it's time to give a grade for every single team draft hall in the NFL. Connor is going to be a doozy, my friend. This is the longest episode outside of the seven round mock draft show that we do. This is the longest and most extensive episode that we do all year long.
Starting point is 00:01:07 How you feel, my friend? I feel good. this is the final, really the final to-do of all of this on the 2026 class. By the way, the Wrigler going full Joker selfie video. Terrifying. In the moment, I really didn't realize it until
Starting point is 00:01:23 then you watch it again. And then the regular act two and three took place on Friday and Saturday. It's truly amazing. Oh, I can't wait to get to the Bucksaw. Let me tell you. We're in for a ride. We're going to go through every single draft hall that we have here today on this
Starting point is 00:01:39 We'll go through every single pick. And we're going to talk about a lot of things here on this show. Of course, you know, we'll talk about the very taboo subject of team boards versus the consensus board, which has the internet all in a tizzy. That's one factor when it comes to draft grades. But, you know, we'll also talk about some scheme fits. We'll talk about how well we believe teams address their need and prioritize certain positions as they went about the draft, how they moved up and down with certain trade
Starting point is 00:02:05 value goes into this as well. there's a lot of ways that you can do draft grades. And look, very top of the show, Lance Zerlion said it best, where he said like, hey, draft grades are fun, but obviously we're giving out grades to people that haven't even taken the test yet. These guys haven't played in the NFL. However, the draft is still a game, and we still scout these players ourselves.
Starting point is 00:02:31 So we are giving it grades based on sort of how we felt like they did versus how we would do it, because that's why you guys watch and that's what makes the NFL draft a lot of fun. So I'm excited to get to everything with that in mind. Well, I think something you and I always emphasize and it's a large reason this show exists is the draft is entertaining.
Starting point is 00:02:53 How quickly people forget that. It is entertainment. There's analysis and really important analysis mixed in, but draft grades are entertainment. You can laugh at them later on. You could look back and you can look at it and be like, okay, the analysis of the process was actually right. It's just, this is part of the fun of it, right?
Starting point is 00:03:12 The people that get so upset over draft grades, I mean, if you're doing this all year, you want to give your feedback of what you thought of the draft. That's the point. Right. What's the point? So, yeah, it's a lot of fun. And it'll be cool to have, you know,
Starting point is 00:03:28 obviously a pretty long and extended show today where the analysis of the picks is more important than maybe the final grade. Yep, 100%. By the way, I almost slept through. the consensus board war. Oh, really? Yeah, I slept through in my foxhole. I woke up.
Starting point is 00:03:43 And I felt like I felt like, you know, when the four you kind of reminds you of all the hell you've missed. It's true. Yeah, yeah. I was shaking awake much later than I usually sleep after our marathon stream Saturday. And I woke up in the middle of mortars going off about the consensus board. I had one of those mornings on Sunday morning where I realized that I had to, okay, I got to wake up at seven to make sure that I packed to get to the airport in time for my flight that was 10.
Starting point is 00:04:12 And I woke up at seven. And the alarm, my alarm went off at seven. I checked my flight and it's like, hey, it's delayed 30 or 45 minutes because, yeah, they had maintenance on the plane. I was like, all right. So I let 30 minutes go by. And then it goes, yeah, it's delayed another 30 minutes. So I'm like, all right, now I'm screwed. Now I'm just going to sit here and wait in 30 minute increments to go to the airport.
Starting point is 00:04:32 I'm not actually going to get to go back to sleep. So I just ended up going to the airport really early. You love going to the airport really early. This is the best news you could possibly get. Twist my arm. One of the wings fell off the plane. It's going to take us a while to fix this. And you're like, I'll go sit at the airport bar for nine hours, eat wings,
Starting point is 00:04:49 play breath of the wild straight through. Love a good early airport. By the way, speaking of wings, when we got done with the day three stream, it was cold and raining outside in the city of New York. But you know what? the draft just ended and I wanted wings, damn it. So I found some wings that had phenomenal reviews and I walked like 20 minutes in the pouring rain to go get him. I sat down, soaked at that table and I said, I want 15 wings, half of them lemon pepper, half of them Buffalo, French fries with the lemon pepper seasoning on top of the French fries and give me an extra ranch.
Starting point is 00:05:27 And you know what? It's one of the best meals I'll have all year. No regrets. The meal after day three of the draft. The chat's yelling. Just wings. Not this time. There was actually French fries involved, but normally it is just wings.
Starting point is 00:05:43 Food never tastes better than after day three of the draft. Never tastes better. No. I could cry after that first bite after day three of the draft. See, somebody in the chat just said, wait, just 15. Guys, I'm washed. I wish I wasn't. I wish I could put away 20, 25 wings like I used to be able to.
Starting point is 00:06:05 I'm just not built that way anymore. I'm just not. I mean, to be fair to you, too, we were on air from, we sat down at like 11.30 at Bleacher Report. We went on a little before 12. I think our stream ended a little after seven. When you, when you don't eat that long, it's actually harder to take down like a monster meal.
Starting point is 00:06:28 I don't, I don't think you were going to be built for 30 wings. at that point no matter what. It's not your fault. I'm out of my game. I'm out of my game. Don't got it no more. Dude, in college, we used to have, we used to have it memorized which
Starting point is 00:06:43 day of the week there was all you can eat something. Like all you can eat wings at this place. You know, all you can eat like sushi at this place. Like whatever it was. Like every single day of the week, we knew the food special. So I was built for it in college. I can't say it on built for it now, but the wings tasted great regardless.
Starting point is 00:07:00 I see some. people giving us some super chats already. I just want to let you guys know in the show. We might, we might shout out some super chats sort of as we see it through the show, but this is going to be a long one. This is going to be a beast. Save your super chats. We are going to do like a big post draft like Q&A thing with you guys. So save the super chats. We appreciate you guys. You know, if you wanted to send it just because you wanted to support the show, feel free. We love you and we appreciate you. But a lot of the questions that might come from super chats, we're going to do a separate answer for. So I just want to let you
Starting point is 00:07:29 guys know that right off the top. And with that, to get right to it, alphabetical order. There they are. There they are. There they are. So the chef told me that the animation, as you can see on the screen, what we'll do is we'll have every single selection that the guys had. The chef even threw in the notable UDFA signings.
Starting point is 00:07:48 Look at the chef. The chef's, he's good. Going above and beyond. We love to see that. I am familiar with your game. We are very familiar with the chef's game. we'll show you where they were selected and then the value of it where those guys were on our board. Now, of course, we'll talk through some instances where we go, hey, you know, I had this guy ranked 95th,
Starting point is 00:08:10 but for this team specifically, I would have had him a lot higher. So we'll go through all that nuance and that conversation here on the show, but then we'll give it a great. Connor, the animations I've been told from our producer are set up to where you need to give your analysis first. So we'll talk about this hall and then you'll give the analysis. It was Jeremiah Love at number three overall, Chase Bissontas, in the second round. Carson Beck in the third. And then it was Caleb Proctor, Reggie Virgil, Carson, uh, Chirar, and then Jaden Williams to round it out in the seventh round for them. So Connor, talk to me about this hall and then give your grade there at the end.
Starting point is 00:08:43 Always tricky, right, when a team takes who you deem as one of, if not the best player in the draft and you still look at it and go like, ah, Jeremiah loves awesome. And when they got Chase Bessantis at the top of round two, I'm like, okay, the Cardinals are building the thing the way Mike LaFleur really needs to. They're going to be more athletic. They're going to have a varied run game. They are going to lean on the run. They're going to get this offensive line right.
Starting point is 00:09:10 And then to me, the problem of this draft might just be a two-player class. That's my biggest fear with all of it. There's things to like about Caleb Proctor as a gap shooter. And I knew he was going to be drafted higher than where I had him. But he is a very pass rush specific interior player right now. And he played good against LSU, but he's still going to be dealing with a higher level of competition, much higher. And then you see the value there. Like I just thought they started to reach in a lot of places.
Starting point is 00:09:39 Chirar is a special teamer. That's fine. I wasn't a fan of either Texas Tech wide receiver. Carson Beck felt like they, they felt like they needed somebody that can play quarterback sooner rather than later. But when you're drafting a guy with the very first pick of the third round, that needs to be a guy with starter upside to me. And I saw Beck as a guy with a good backup upside.
Starting point is 00:10:04 That's why I had a better value than you, Treb, and still minus 49 on the big board ranking. So, you know, the reason I was just lower on this draft as much as I love Jeremiah Love, and I'm a big fan of Chase Besantas for their line. I have a fear it's a two-player draft, and I gave it a C. Okay, so I'm, I'm with you here on this analysis.
Starting point is 00:10:25 I'm struggling. to really like this class, I think that of the teams that were going to draft Jeremiah Love in the top 10, this was probably the spot that I wanted him to go the least. I just don't think the team is built for it. I think there are ways away.
Starting point is 00:10:44 I love Chase Besantas, everybody knows that. But, you know, Carson Beck, I feel like was much more of a representation of the failure that they had this offseason than anything else. I don't really think it was like a, yeah, man, we really believe in Carson Beck. I think you picked this player, you had to because you had no choice.
Starting point is 00:11:00 And that's why you felt like you needed to pick him at 65 as well. Now, an interesting wrinkle of news as of this morning is that Brennan Sorsby, the quarterback who was at Cincinnati and then transferred over to Texas Tech, he might lose this upcoming year's eligibility because he's getting in trouble gambling while being on Indiana's team and gambling on those Indiana games. That's the report at least. And if he loses that year of eligibility, he's going to be in the supplemental draft this year.
Starting point is 00:11:27 and if he's in the supplemental draft, well, maybe Arizona gets saved because maybe Arizona just goes, okay, well, we're going to give whatever we got to give to get Brennan Soresby because there's a chance of Sorsby would have been a top 50 player in this class if he would have declared. But I can't factor any of that in. This is a C-minus draft to me. I just, I don't feel as though they went about this the right way. And if you were going to take Jeremiah Love, I much, much, much would rather you trade out, even though this is my number two overall player in the class.
Starting point is 00:11:56 so plus value on the big board, but just not good value. And I just don't love the team building of what they did here. I'm with you. It's tough because I love the player and I think he'll be good in the floor system. But there is a larger conversation about this team. And it was hard for anybody not named the Raiders because the Jets and Browns had this problem in this draft as well. It was going to be almost impossible to just solve quarterback. And who knows?
Starting point is 00:12:23 You know, there's always a world where Carson Beck is just way better than anybody. expected and you know and these grades look foolish and on and on it goes but it goes back to wouldn't you rather just take a gamble on the malik willis contract if you're arizona and then use all of these picks for the team like if if pick 65 was an impact defender and malick willis is the quarterback this might be a b a totally different grade so that's where i'm just kind of hung up on it. It felt like they got cornered into needing a guy in a quarterback class that we didn't love. And, you know,
Starting point is 00:12:59 we've talked about Beck's arm falling off a little bit as well since the elbow surgery, which is tough to factor into this as well. Yeah, that's the big, that's a tough part for me. It's like it's not like I look at Carson Beck and go, ah, man, you know, well, if he develops or if he spends some more time, like I wonder about just where his arm
Starting point is 00:13:15 is health-wise. Because he did not look like the same quarterback this year at Miami with that arm. And it only gets more difficult when you get to the NFL. So I just have a tough time really believing in the process of how we got to selecting Carson Beck there. I think your wide receiver room is already pretty good. And I didn't love Reggie Virgil anyways. It's a fifth round pick.
Starting point is 00:13:33 But Caleb Proctor, I like. Caleb Proctor's nice for this team. And I talked about this on the live stream that we did. I liked that they got an attacking type of a player in there. So I like that along the defensive line. You talked about getting a special team's guy in Charar. But overall, C-minus class for me here for the Arizona Cardinals. Anything else for me move on?
Starting point is 00:13:51 No, I think that covers it up pretty well. Atlanta Falcons. Let's get to the Falcons grade. Next. They didn't have a first round pick. James Pierce, Jr. Trade where they moved up and they gave a future first round pick
Starting point is 00:14:04 for that to be the case. Second round, 58th overall, they took Avion Terrell. Third round, they took Zachari Branch. Fourth round, it was Kendall Daniels, the linebacker from Oklahoma. Sixth round of Terry Oth, sixth round, Harold Perkins Jr.
Starting point is 00:14:22 And the seventh round, Ethan Oneon, the offensive tackle from Ohio State. Connor, talk about this class here. So, Trevor, when you grade, something I've tried to do to keep it simple, and it makes people upset, and I get it. I don't factor in that they got, right, for instance, they got James Pierce
Starting point is 00:14:40 as a part of this draft. I just can't. I also, I don't factor his, like, legal troubles into this. Like, I think there's some people that are like, oh, man, this class is bad because James Pierce Jr. has the legal troubles. It's like, okay, like, obviously that's a true factor for the Falcons, but I'm not putting that in my draft grade for them in 2026.
Starting point is 00:15:00 I just evaluate the collection of players. And I say through multiple blurbs of the article on NBC, if you have more draft capital, in theory, it is easier to get a higher grade because obviously you have a higher chance of having a better class. I'm honest about that. So I always say right up the top. You're an honest man.
Starting point is 00:15:16 I'm an honest man. Rather than my usual, it's out of my hand. hands. So it's up to Frank now. Yeah, it's up to Frank. We're going to have that combo. So when it comes down to it, that put them in a top spot right away. But I don't like how they use their capital. I just have to be honest. The only player that I, well, two players that I like in this group, Zachariah Branch, I think can be a good slot for them. He's reliable, in terms of being a natural pass catcher, he's reliable, he's electric with the ball on his hands. They needed a slot receiver. They definitely need to get help.
Starting point is 00:15:50 I think he's probably a number three, but I have no problem with where they took him. I just have significant questions about Aviontorel speed. Kendall Daniels, for me, a former safety, he's a big linebacker, but he's not fast, and his instincts haven't translated the linebacker where he doesn't have that speed to make up for that yet, so he's kind of caught in no man's land right now.
Starting point is 00:16:16 And I know Jeff Obrick's their defensive coordinator. he's, places he's been have drafted guys with that theory and they try to have them be more see-ball, get-ball, rather than, you know, less thinking and more just, but I didn't think he was a great enough athlete where that's the bet to take. I thought Harold Perkins was actually more of that guy. And maybe Perkins can rush for you a little bit on third downs with a NASCAR package. One Yanwa, Ohio State didn't even want to put him on the field. I was excited about him over summer when I watched the rice tape and it just didn't work out at Ohio State. He wasn't really playable. You know, obviously see massive reaches across this draft. I,
Starting point is 00:16:48 gave this, I gave this draft a D plus. This is one of my least favorite drafts. I don't really think they got much out of it besides Zacharii Branch. Terrell might be okay as a third corner, but once again, I just did not like this collection of players and how they've used draft capital. And I know it's a different crew of guys now making these decisions. So, yeah. I ended up giving this draft a B.
Starting point is 00:17:11 And the reason I gave it a B is because I don't, I'm just. I'm kind of a sucker for Avion Terrell. I just, I want to love the player. I really do. And Billy Bowman Jr. tore his Achilles end of November. Oh, sorry. I gave this a C.
Starting point is 00:17:29 that's my bad. I give this a C-minus, but not to cut you off there. I just had the article open. I want to make sure it's consistent with the article. I gave it a C-mice. Oh, right, right. Not that it's much different, but sorry, Jeff. So I ended up giving it a B.
Starting point is 00:17:38 And the reasons why is because I think there's a world where Aviont Terl can play in the slot for them. I think he's a ficey slot defender. He's a good run defender, especially with Billy Bowman and Taryn his Achilles. So I do still have faith in that. And I just have more faith than Navy on Terrell it sounds. I agree with you. I think the Zach Branch is going to be a playmaker for them here. And then Kendall Daniels, it's hard for me to be harsh on either Kendall Daniels or Ontario
Starting point is 00:18:02 Thompson because I didn't get to their full scouting reports. So I also kind of have to be fair to this analysis. And I can't say that I didn't love them. I know you didn't, you were able to get to their full scouting report. But I don't want to be overly harsh, even though after the draft happened and I kind of got some more research on these guys when I was just thinking about these draft halls, I can see the similar concerns that you have there with Daniels and Thompson. I have to be fair and that like, yeah, there were other linebackers, I think in theory, I would have taken over this guy, but I didn't
Starting point is 00:18:29 do the full scouting report. So I don't want to be overly harsh on that. I think that Terrell and Branch can be difference making players for them. I like Perkins. I'm not sure you had to draft Oneion was. So that one's a little, okay, but it's 231. So I'm not going to be overly harsh on it. So I ended up giving it a B, I think just because I want to believe in Avion Terrell. I really want to believe in Avion Terrell. And I think that if he is faster than certainly the 40 time and if he can get a little bit faster in the NFL, I do think that he could be a good slot defender. And it sounds like the Falcons might need that with Billy Bowman, Taryn as Achilles.
Starting point is 00:19:01 So I ended up giving this one a B, but it's a little bit of an incomplete grade for me because they drafted two players that I just didn't get to their full evals up. Yeah, well, for me with Thompson, because I talked about Kendall Daniels and what I thought of him. Thompson is a really, really unique athlete at 306 pounds. He's played at four different programs right now. Iowa, Western, Iowa, Western Michigan, and Washington. Like, it's there athletically in terms of testing. He's blocked punts on special teams. He's got strong hands. But this is four programs where he's just not been productive. And the athleticism, in terms of the testing, does not match the play athleticism. So they probably took, and once again,
Starting point is 00:19:42 it's like the sixth round. So I get it. You're. just seeing if you can tap into that athleticism more in this scheme. But I just want to explain why I was lower on these guys than where they were drafted. All right. What do we have next? Baltimore Ravens. Rivers your next up. Large class here for the Baltimore Ravens.
Starting point is 00:20:00 And we've got some badges that we're giving some of these players in this class. We've got some favorite fits overall. And then we also have favorite day three selections, difference making day three. three selections. And we didn't do this for every single team. We wanted it to make to be a little bit more of a splash thing. So it's like, oh, okay, well, if you see a guy really stand out in a class, that really means something.
Starting point is 00:20:22 So it's five and five, I think, from each of us in both of those categories. And Conner's got one here. For the Baltimore Ravens, they drafted Vega Yawane on the first round, Zion Young in the second, Jacoby Lane in the third, Elijah Surat in the fourth, Matthew Hibner in the fifth, Chandler Rivers, Josh Quavis, Adam Randall, all in the fifth as well. Ryan Eckley, the punter from Michigan State in the sixth round. Rayshon Benny in the seventh.
Starting point is 00:20:48 Evan Bernstein, the guard from Northwestern in the seventh round two. They also notable UDFA signings. You guys see it right there. Diego Pavia. There it is, folks. Mini-camp invite. It's true. Not even a real.
Starting point is 00:21:04 No, I'm not going to. I'm not going to help. No, easy. No. It's not easy. No. What do you mean no? It doesn't count.
Starting point is 00:21:14 I won't allow it. A mini camp invite doesn't count. No, there's millions of those. No, don't take it away from the kid. UDF base onings have real bonuses in them. Life-changing bonuses. But maybe that's exactly what the Ravens wanted, right? They just wanted them in a proven situation again.
Starting point is 00:21:29 Because they know that that means that he's going to perform his best. Oh, yeah. Oh, yeah, I would not be shocked if he gets a contract after that and gets into camp. So the Ravens to me, and they're pretty consistent with this, as you see the value on the right side, they do a good job. keeping in mind value while still attacking attacking needs. And that's really hard to do in the draft.
Starting point is 00:21:51 Some teams are just like, oh, we have needs and we like the player and we take the player where we take the player. I think for the most part, Baltimore is conscience of value and still lands on their needs where Benga Yawane, I think he's going to be one of the better players
Starting point is 00:22:07 to come out of this draft. I get it, he's a guard, so he wasn't going top 10, although I'm sure there was a combo, at least there for the Giants at 10. Zion Young got one of my badges here as one of my five favorite fits. I just think he's exactly what they need at edge. I valued him higher than where he went. He's a three-down player.
Starting point is 00:22:26 He's an edge setter. He plays with power. I think him and Mike Green are so different that now you have two totally different edge rushers across from Trey Hendrickson that you can rotate. And that's really, really good team building. Jacoby Lane, that was a reach for me. but they took two different types of receivers where Sarat is pro-ready,
Starting point is 00:22:47 super detailed, makes catches through contact. Lane can now, even if Serat ends up playing over him early, Lane can develop as a contested catch outside, you know, that perimeter kind of receiver. They valued Hibner probably because of his pure speed and I was a little lower on him. So that was a pick, that pick was a little bit of a head scratcher, but it's not surprising to see them do this at tight end
Starting point is 00:23:10 because they consistently do. Chandler Rivers awesome value because he's so sticky as a nickel, really, really sticky cover guy. He's just undersized, but high IQ. He's going to be able to handle what Jesse Minter throws at him. And then really what finally made this an A-minus for me is getting Ray Sean Benny at the end of the seventh round.
Starting point is 00:23:29 He's a rotational run defender that is going to hold up at the NFL level. It's hard to get guys like that in the seventh round, but we had a couple of them this year that we don't really know why they fell to that capacity. So I like the volume approach by the Ravens. I think they addressed their needs. And I think they didn't sacrifice a ton of value to do so. Yeah, I was between a B plus, A minus here with this one. Vega is a good pick.
Starting point is 00:23:55 Now you picked him over Ruben Bain Jr. Like Ruben Bain Jr. was there. And so I kind of do take that into consideration there. But that doesn't make Vega a bad pick. I would have taken Rubin Bain, but that doesn't make Ruben Bain or Vega Gawane a bad pick at all. Zion Young, I know you liked him more than me. but this is right around the range in which I would have selected Zion Young anyways.
Starting point is 00:24:14 So this is appropriate there. I thought Jacoby Lane at number 80 overall was a massive reach. But I loved Elijah Surrett. And then I thought that Matthew Hibner was a really big reach over the tight ends that were still available. But then Chandler Rivers, Josh Kuevas, Rayshaw Benny, Evan Bernstein. I love those guys. Like I think that's pretty killer in the third round. So I liked the, not the third round, day three of the draft.
Starting point is 00:24:40 I thought day three was excellent for this team. So I ended up giving it a B plus here for the Baltimore Ravens. Again, there were some, the Hibner and Lane picks, I think were all over the place. But Surat and then a lot of the day three selections were really nice from them. So I like what the Ravens did in this draft. Again, even though I would have taken Rubin Bain over Vega and then just the Jacoby Lane and the Hibner picks were a little confusing for me. Nice job by you, Trevor, acting like you're not the reason as the Riggler that
Starting point is 00:25:07 Rubin Bain didn't fall to 15. That's true. Yeah. With your mythical powers to push him down the board. That's true. I have to, I got to get people off my trail. The draft,
Starting point is 00:25:17 the draft was too good. The draft was too good and I'm going to get investigated. Those AI photos of you in costume. Are those AI photos? Yeah, they might be real. That's the real wriggler outfit. You got to ask yourself.
Starting point is 00:25:29 But good draft for the Ravens definitely one of my more favorite drafts. Yeah, I agree. The Buffalo Bills are the next team that we're talking about here. So I'm going to purposely do a better job of not talking about every little single thing so that when I talk to you, you're like, all right, we did everything. No, because I'm kicking these off.
Starting point is 00:25:45 No, I noticed that, and especially here, we got one of your special categories, which is cool. But I will start with saying for the bills, as they moved around the board, which is a good job by Bean here. They utilized trades to gain more volume, even after they lost the second round pick for DJ more. I think they did a good job providing themselves depth and also getting guys that can be starters a year from now
Starting point is 00:26:12 if they let some guys go in free agency. Obviously, T.J. Parker, this is someone to me with the long arm, the power. I didn't love their edge room going into the draft because I'm not really that high on once left of Bradley Chubbs. So I liked the Parker selection at 35 quite a bit for Jim Leonard. Igbenosin is the one pick here that I look at and go, man, like I know you want to get bigger and stronger a corner. And a lot of teams prioritize these big corners.
Starting point is 00:26:36 That's something we, like when you talk about the takeaways from this draft, it's like big corners get drafted and the small corners fall down the board. Even if the small corners are better than the big corners, he's got to cut down the penalties, but I could see why they prioritized them even if I didn't love the player. The real, this is the last one I'll talk about, the real standout, of course, and I'm a big Jude Bowery fan, but is Skylar Bell? I mean, Skyler Bell, if there's a world where two years from now, he kind of takes over that Khalil Shakir role, I look at it and go like, man, I'm not surprised. He's athletic. He finishes plays. He got his drop rate so far down this year. He's super productive. He's an incredibly hard worker. He's from New York. So I know Western New York is very, very far. I've done that drive. But in a way, it's a comfortable-ish homecoming. It's not like going across the country. So I think overall, I think Bean found some big time value picks that are going to become starters down the road where they'll be able to shed a lot of money down the road as well. So would you give this one for a great? help, right? I gave it a B. Okay, all right. Not flashy. Not flashy in any way.
Starting point is 00:27:42 It's rock solid. So I gave it a B, but I honestly, I think I would give it a B plus now that I'm kind of like looking at it again. Nathan in the chat asked this. He says, I don't have a problem with the players that we took, but I disagree with the prioritization of needs that being had. I mean, he said that Corner was the biggest need, and I can't understand that. We talked a little bit about this on the Bleacher Report stream, and that is the fact that if you look at their death chart, you would say that they have corners. But you got to remember, they're changing from Sean McDermott to Jim Leonard. Leonard's defense is probably asking their corners to do totally different things.
Starting point is 00:28:18 They're probably going to play Press Man a lot more than Buffalo ever played press man before. That's why you draft David, David Ignvenoson, right? Like, that's why you're drafting more of these corners because, sure, you have corners on the roster, but are they the type of corners that you need? And if they're not Pressman corners, well, it's really hard to ask Zoneman. own corners to just all of a sudden be pressed man corners. So you'd rather sort of draft a lot of those guys because if you don't have specific
Starting point is 00:28:42 dbs that can do what your scheme asked them to do, you're going to be in trouble. So I factored that into this as well. They traded down twice and ended up getting T.J. Parker. So I think that's plus value for them as well. I give them a thumbs up for doing that. Jude Bowery, I think you play guard and tackle for them. Skyler Bell is a reliable receiver for them. I didn't love the alarms or selection.
Starting point is 00:29:03 There are other linebackers that I would have taken. taken there, but Jalen Kilgore gets one of my day three difference makers badges here, because he is somebody, and we talked about this again on the show, that I love that they drafted Kilgore and Toriano Pride Jr. from Missouri, because they're two totally different slot defenders, nickel defenders. And one of them uses athleticism and size and the other one's a little bit quicker. And if Kilgore, there are some issues with him and how quickly he can flip the hips and be able to be sticky with, you know, tight ends and certainly wide receivers at the NFL
Starting point is 00:29:43 level. And like if that doesn't work out for them, they also added some depth. So they covered their butts there. I like Armage Reed Adams as a depth guard as well. So to me, this is a B plus. Like when you factor in a lot of the trades that they did, getting plus values on those trades. And to be honest, like, the only thing that I don't love about.
Starting point is 00:30:00 this draft is they didn't actually get a real difference making nose tackle. That was surprising. So that holds it back from being an A. But to me, there's actually a lot to like about this Bill's draft where I would give it a B plus. Yeah. I'm with you. It's a good call out about D tackle. By the way, I see someone in the chat, spoiling grades from the article and they're not even
Starting point is 00:30:20 correct. So if you see people in the chat talking about grades that are wrong, just stick around and actually watch the show. I just want to say that right away. So anyways. But yeah, I'm with you. totally that when you look at it, it's one of those where they addressed almost everything.
Starting point is 00:30:37 But man, like just one two gap or somewhere. And as you could see on the board, I mean, there's only minus five, but Zane Durant's not that guy. Zane Durant's the athletic type, that kind of slendery shoot, like shoot the gap, one gap penetrator. So that'll be the one thing that they still probably, unless they see somebody on their roster developing into that in year two that they took last year.
Starting point is 00:30:58 Carolina Panthers. Interesting draft here for the Carolina Panthers. For the pounders? For the pounders? Yes. Let's analyze who got pounded. Pause. Jesus.
Starting point is 00:31:11 Monroe Freeling was their first selection. Then it was Lee Hunter, Chris Brasel the second, Will Lee, Sam Hacks, Key Wheatley, and Jackson, Kuwatch. That's how you say his last name, right? Yeah. Yep. Yes. Okay.
Starting point is 00:31:23 I did not get to his report, but, you know, he was 227, so it's not like he would have swung the grade. heavily for me one way or the other. Connor, what did you think of this class? This is a fascinating draft for the Panthers because I think they did some unexpected things, right? Even when you look at how they were able to, you know, get Walker in for agency.
Starting point is 00:31:43 We were like, they think they're going to be able to bridge it together at tackle for a year. And they said, no, we just prioritize offensive line significantly where we're going to take Freeling here. Now, I'll say this. I wonder if they were a, team that were they were in on Sadiq. There was some chatter of that and they were surprised he went in front of them.
Starting point is 00:32:04 Yeah. There was a little chatter of that. But yeah, you still walk out with Freeling who hopefully can be your long term, one of your long term tackles. Lee Hunter to me is going to help you stop the run in the middle of the defense. I like the dart throwing around three on Brazel. I knew he was going to slide. There was some concerns from teams, not necessarily about the talent.
Starting point is 00:32:23 So he knew he's going to slide a little bit, but he's got a jet pack on. He finished his plays. He had really reliable hands this year. Like at that point of the draft, the talent is just worth the risk. They get the blanket to develop at corner, a bigger corner. Sam hacked, obviously, Trevor, you and I spazzed out when they got him at this point of the draft
Starting point is 00:32:41 because it's a starting center in round five. Excellent thing. And I think maybe a starting safety in round five and Zaki Wheatley. Not a significantly plus starter, but an average starter at safety. And I'll say on Jackson Kowatch, I got to him very, very late in the process.
Starting point is 00:32:56 As I was looking at most of those, special teams, non-combine guys that popped at their pro day. He's a good athlete. He's agile. He's fearless attacking the run downhill. He does end up on the ground more than you would like. There's no doubt about that. He's played almost 300 snaps of special teams the last two years.
Starting point is 00:33:12 He was a seventh round pick that I really, really liked because even if he ends up just as a sub-packaged linebacker for you, he's going to be a special team's ace. So I was a fan of this Panthers draft as weird as it was as it was coming together. I'm like, they're going ways I didn't expect, but I gave it a B-plus. because I think they got multiple starters in this group. I gave it a B, just a straight B. It's a mixed bag for me here,
Starting point is 00:33:38 because Freeling and Hunter are both reaches on my board, not only my overall board, but they drafted Freeling over Eonichur and Lomu, who I would have rather had over Freeling. They drafted Lee Hunter over a lot of defense attacks, that I would have rather had over him. Chris Brasel, I understand, like, he can be the vertical wide receiver that this offense needs.
Starting point is 00:34:05 There's no question about it. But he even had, like, inconsistency issues that I go, man, are we kind of just getting on the roller coaster again that we had with Xavier Leggett? I know Panthers fans don't want to hear that, but that's sort of where my mind goes to. I think Will Lee is an excellent scheme fit. I think he can play press man for you. But I actually like him better when he's in zone coverage assignments and no team played more zone than the Carolina Panthers last year. Sam Hect, obviously the value is phenomenal,
Starting point is 00:34:31 getting him at 144, so I'm not going to complain too much. But this is a team that they like their offensive linemen bigger. They like to run the downhill run scheme a lot more. And Hect isn't as much of an imposing type of center. He's a really good center. But he's, I, Carolina does like to stay multiple, but I always feel like they're trying to lean more into being a power run game. And Sam Hack can operate that way, but he wasn't like the best center. in the draft when it comes to the downhill power displacement run game. Zaki Wheatley, I think is good for them in the fifth round. I like them adding a safety there.
Starting point is 00:35:04 But then I do look at tight end. And I think I went into this class thinking this team really wants to upgrade what they have at tight end. And unfortunately, they're now just going to go into this season with the same tight end room that they had last season, which I think was a tight end room where they were asking more out of. So it's a mixed bag of a class. I was between like B minus and B.
Starting point is 00:35:26 I ended up going with a B because there is a world where this works out. Like there is certainly a world where this works out. But there are just other players that I would have rather selected for Carolina. And the thought of they didn't make any sort of upgrades in the tight end room. I thought that was a little bit of a miss by them. Yeah. I give it a B. That's the one thing you have to quantify depending on how much you buy into it.
Starting point is 00:35:47 And I do. I said it at the top that it feels like they definitely got, they definitely got sniped a little bit on Sadiq. And they weren't totally expecting that. But somebody in the chat saying, hey, Dave and Joku is still available. If they signed David and Joku, I'd love that for them. I think that would help a ton. And that would sort of like ease my worries of how much I feel like they really wanted to lean into the tight-in passing game and just having multiple tight-ins on the field.
Starting point is 00:36:12 And I just don't know if they're going to be able to do that with this same room. So if they can get new in Joku, I think that'd be great for them. Chicago Bears. Chicago Bears. Dylan Thineman gets a badge from me as well. one of my favorite fits in this draft, an absolute draft steal, a top 10 player for me that they get at number 25 overall.
Starting point is 00:36:30 Logan Jones, who I think is a great scheme fit for them in their, in Ben Johnson's outside zone run scheme, Sam Roush, Sabian Thomas, Malik, Mohamed, Keishon Elliott, and then Jordan Vandenberg as their final pick in the sixth round. What we think, Connor? I like the collection of players.
Starting point is 00:36:46 I do. My two criticisms of the draft would be that, and we said this about the bills a little bit, but I actually make it an even bigger point of priority for the bears. I'm a little surprised that they didn't come out of it with a stout run defender. Me too. That was a big one for me where I was like, that's kind of weird.
Starting point is 00:37:03 And then I think Xavier-on-Thomas is an awesome returner. And Ben Johnson absolutely has familiarity with players of this skill set. I just don't know if you need to take that player 89th overall. That's the one thing. I mean, you see the lack of value in that spot for me. I think Ben Johnson is the right coach and right scheme for him. but if I have to really hammer home, lack of value on a pick. But other than that, Thineman and Kobe Bryant are going to be one of my favorite
Starting point is 00:37:31 safety duo is to watch in the NFL this year on tape. I'll say it right now. They have so much range. You can, you know, obviously rotate them in different ways with their skill sets. You can kind of have them confuse the offense on the back end of who's doing what. So that was a really, really exciting pick that he fell to them. Logan Jones, I know I liked him a little more than you, Trev. Four-year starter can start for you right now.
Starting point is 00:37:56 Good athlete. Yeah, if he's going to go early anywhere, this is it. This is the, this is the spot. He started for four years and he's a really, really high-end athlete. Sam Roush, I love this pick. If this maybe is the last year of Cole Komet in Chicago, and then you're going to have a guy tailor-made ready to step into the tight end two role with Sam Roush.
Starting point is 00:38:18 And even Malik Muhammad, I see a world where. where he develops as a corner two or three for them. He has the movement skills and he has the speed. He needs to increase his play strength. That's one thing. And maybe he can do that at the NFL level as well. So overall, this was the rock solid draft. I gave this one a B for the Bears.
Starting point is 00:38:37 Okay. I gave this one a B plus for Chicago. I love the Thineman pick. I think he's going to be phenomenal for them, especially for a defense that really reap the rewards of forcing a lot of turnovers the previous season. Theateman gives you the ability to do that again. Logan Jones, you see it's minus 53 on my draft board,
Starting point is 00:38:56 but if we were doing a Chicago Bear specific draft board, he'd be close to this. I mean, I don't know if he'd be up as high as 57, but he'd probably be in like the 60 to 75 type of range. So I like this for them. You know, it's interesting because I agree. I keep it from being an A because of the lack of defensive line additions really at all with those priority picks.
Starting point is 00:39:18 but it's interesting because as I look at the draft like I don't want to be unfair about this right I can't just say like oh they should have added a defensive tackle it's like okay well you kind of have to analyze where and if you look at pick number 69 Sam rouse goes 69 the only defensive tackles that I would really say okay like I think that you should have taken maybe these players there at 69 were Chris McClellan who was drafted 77 by the Packers and then Big Citrus was drafted 82nd overall by the Minnesota Vikings. So you say to yourself, well, I would like this draft a lot more if it was one of those two guys on the interior and then if you would have just waited to 89 to draft Sam Roush.
Starting point is 00:40:01 But I can't help but think that Ben Johnson and Ryan Poles watched Nate Borkercher go 56. And they were like, no more. Wait, hold on. What? Yeah, you're right. And so all of a sudden they get to 69 and I bet they wanted to take Sam Roush at 89. But when Nate Borker goes off the board
Starting point is 00:40:20 and Marlon Klein goes off the board, then Chicago's sitting there like, holy shit, I mean, we got a draft Rouch next or we're going to lose them. And I love the fact that they are now three deep at tight end to run whatever heavy personnel packages they possibly want.
Starting point is 00:40:36 So where not addressing defensive line figuring out a way to do that does keep it from being a B or an A from me, it's hard for me to realistically be too harsh on that, given what would have been reality and how the draft was unfolding.
Starting point is 00:40:52 So B plus, you could twist my arm into maybe an A minus because of this situation. But I feel pretty confident about saying this is a really nice draft from Chicago, and I do think they're going to get a lot out of all these players. Yeah, I would say for me, too, like, I found myself giving more positive grades this year. I felt like teams, I mean, there's a couple stinkers,
Starting point is 00:41:13 but teams through the most part attacked what they needed were careful with value a B in the draft a lot of players don't make it in the NFL so a B is pretty high in as Trevor would say on the VR stream a C is average
Starting point is 00:41:29 I mean it is passing grade by the way Jacobo says Trevor's overall draft grades are completely inconsistent with his board the bears are nearly 150 in the negative compared to his rankings and yet he gave them a B plus.
Starting point is 00:41:46 Right. Because what is more powerful than just an independent board of where I think these players stack up in a vacuum, what's more important is viewing draft halls and the spots in where they go, how they're going to fit into depth charts, how they're going to fit into contracts, how they're going to fit into team schemes. That's more important than just the negative. So the negatives and the positives are references for you guys that the chef wanted to put together from where we have them on our board.
Starting point is 00:42:11 and a lot of times they will speak larger to did we like them or didn't we like them. But Chicago is one of those drafts where you have to take full context into account of where these players are going and how they're going to be deployed in the short and long term. And for that, that's why Chicago specific players, I liked a lot for Chicago. So, which I'm not going after Jacobo either. Like I think a lot of people watching the show would kind of think the same thing. but that's the purpose of why we do this exercise, and we don't just give you like an aggregate number of who drafted best against our big board.
Starting point is 00:42:47 It's worth conversations about where these players actually end up getting drafted. Yeah, and Sequod's Barkley said, I feel like you guys have been kind of harsh of the grades, not going to lie. I think part of that is... Have we? I don't think we have.
Starting point is 00:43:00 Oh, just wait. We've had a couple, but also, Trevor and I have, when we do fix your franchise, we review what our grades have been, and you sit there and you go, Man, it turns out it's really hard to make it in the NFL. So the reality is we're so excited about all these guys.
Starting point is 00:43:16 But then when you look two or three years back, you're like, ah, it's just the misrate is just so high where I've tried to kind of recalibrate to unfortunately accept that. The Bengals. The Cincinnati Bengals. So at number 10 overall, they draft their Dexter Lawrence, which I did bring into account a little bit here with with them trading number two. 10 for Dexter Lawrence. I didn't, but I wrote in that like, I thought I wrote in. Maybe I didn't. I will say that obviously I thought that trade was really great for the Bengals.
Starting point is 00:43:51 It's not reflected in the grade I gave them here because I'm just grading the package of players. But of course, if they had the 10th overall picking this draft and they took Caleb Downs, their grade would be much, much different. Right. Cash is how you have them going. So you used to just doing mock drafts. In the second round, they took cash.
Starting point is 00:44:09 Cassius Howell. In the third round, Ticario Davis. Fourth round, they got Connor Liu, which I have as one of my day three difference makers here. Fourth round, I got Colby Young, the Wives here from Georgia. Sixth round, Brian Parker, seventh round Jack Andrews, and then rounded it out with Landon Robinson. What do we got, Connor?
Starting point is 00:44:25 So clearly some good values besides two reaches. And Ticario Davis, I like his size of corner. I just thought it was a little early. Colby Young, I mean, he's got a lot of talent. There's no denying that. I thought that they didn't have a rusher like Cassius Howell. They have a lot of guys in their edge group, but they just don't have a pure island rusher with just pure pass rush ability to stay off blocks and try to get into the
Starting point is 00:44:52 pocket. So it was good to see them add that kind of player into that past rush group. Connor Lou is a starter at center for me if he's healthy. I thought that was my favorite pick and clearly it was your favorite pick as well there, Trevor. When you look at Brian Parker, it gives you more offensive lines. depth because he's a guy that'll probably kick inside at the next level, but he's built to do that. I like injuries to eventually take over that Keseki role at some point of this offense.
Starting point is 00:45:18 And then, you know, Landon Robinson, which there's good value there for me. He's a total tweener, outlier, kind of a man without a position. But I think when you get him away from the nose tackle spot, he had to play so often for Navy, you might be able to get an NFL player out of that. So I look back of this grade in the written form and I gave it a C plus. and it feels kind of harsh. But that's just because they got good value besides too many reaches.
Starting point is 00:45:44 But it's really just because they didn't have the 10th overall pick in the draft. If I was factoring in the Dexter Lawrence trade, you can make an argument that this is a borderline A-minus or B-plus from the Bengals in this spot. Oh, you don't have to make the argument that it's borderline.
Starting point is 00:45:57 I have this with an A-minus, and that's because I factored in that they're getting Dexter Lawrence with the 10th overall pick because I think they recognized the defense tackle was their biggest need. And there was nobody even close to being worth the 10th overall pick at the defensive tackle spot in this draft.
Starting point is 00:46:13 So you trade for Dexter Lawrence. You actually get a decently team friendly contract extension with him. So I love that from them. And the more that I read, look, I didn't love Ticario Davis. You see that. I thought Ticario Davis was way overdrafted. I am not a Ticario Davis fan at all. I felt like he should have been closer to a sixth round pick than a third round pick,
Starting point is 00:46:32 to be honest with you. But outside of that specifically, which brings it down to that A-Mondon, minus, I kind of looked at this and initially my grade was lower. But because, you know, like they didn't, they didn't address linebacker at all. That's really where I started. I was like, dude, they didn't address what was outside of defense to tackle their biggest need. So I'm going to be harsher on this.
Starting point is 00:46:54 But the more I looked at the draft itself, the more I said, okay, if they knew they wanted to add an edge rusher and clearly they prioritized that position highly, drafting Cassius Hall at number 41. they couldn't really wait until 72 because by the time 72 came around, all the edge rushers were gone. I mean, Romello height went 70, two picks before them at 72. The next edge rusher that got drafted after pick number 72, where they would have had to try to select an edge rusher if they didn't take cashed
Starting point is 00:47:31 at 41, was Jason Barham, who the Cowboys drafted as an, off ball line. Seems that way, yeah. And the next legitimate edge rusher was Wesley Williams in the fourth round. So they drafted the edge rusher at 41 in Cassius Al, over C.J. Allen, over Jacob Rodriguez, over, you know, Jeremiah Trotter Jr., over those guys. Because they were just fearful that if we don't draft one now, we're not going to get one. And you know what? They were right. So, yeah, I don't love that they didn't take a linebacker. I wish that they would have. But I like how they went about using number 10 on Dexter Lawrence, prioritizing edge rusher because they would have been gone by the time they got on the clock at number 72. Conor Lou, I think, is the long-term starting center for this team.
Starting point is 00:48:22 Brian Parker is an excellent swing depth interior offensive lineman for you. Jack Andrews is his big time plus value for me. And I don't even mind taking the chance on Landon Robinson. So I like this draft. I gave it an A-minus. Yeah. Listen, I get it. When you pack it, and Dexter Lawrence, it totally changes the grade. I'm going to try to stay consistent in just evaluating the group of players, but I will put the bow on it saying I have really, really liked the Bengals offseason. A lot. I think they did good things in free agency.
Starting point is 00:48:52 I like the trade. They got some players in this draft, especially Connor Liu, who I think is their future starting center. Me too. And things are looking right again for Cincinnati. The Cleveland Browns. Oh, boy. here we go folks Spencer Fano
Starting point is 00:49:10 with their first selection after trading down by the way then Casey Concepcion and Denzel Boston Denzel Boston earned the badge of mine for one of my favorite fits in this class because I love him as a bigger body wide receiver Emmanuel McNeil Warren they traded up a lot to go get him
Starting point is 00:49:28 at number 58 Austin Barber Parker Parker Brailsford Justin Jefferson Joel Royer Tailing Green Carson Ryan in chats firing off all of their grades, which you guys should. Every single time that we get to a new team, fire all your grades. We would love to see all the grades from you guys as well.
Starting point is 00:49:44 Connor, what you think of this class here for the Cleveland Browns? Super interesting draft. And can I just say I love that you and I spent all of rounds two to seven together because we can call back the things we were discussing in real time. And I love that you pointed this out. You were saying how when they turn their offensive line over in the pro market, they got, it felt like more power. And then in the draft,
Starting point is 00:50:10 they went with more athletic zone players in the offensive. That's what you said, the hockey shift offensive lines, which is so funny. It's fascinating, though, when you look at this from the Browns. So we'll see, obviously they're trying to have a little versatility
Starting point is 00:50:22 with their scheme. As you see from the value, you and I liked Bono. I understand there were teams and people that have concerns about him as a tackle. We believe in him as a tackle. I love that the Browns recognize they can move at it. six. They can get more capital. That's all going to factor in migrate as well and still get the
Starting point is 00:50:39 player they want on the offensive line. I like to Denzel Boston better than Casey Concepcion, but what they are doing in this offense is so different that they complement each other well. What Monkin has done would say flowers, he could do some of those things with Concepcion. Boston gives them a real perimeter wide receiver. Emmanuel McNeill Warren, you see for both of us, just tremendous value on the defense. And then I'll tell you another one that pushed this one up for me. I like Justin Jefferson a lot, especially in this defense, where he can just fly around.
Starting point is 00:51:11 He's a really good athlete. I thought he was so much. He stood out so much more than his teammate, Deonté Lawson on tape. If Swessinger gets hurt or even if they need another starter, Jefferson has the athleticism to be exactly that. And Carson Ryan was one of my guys in this draft compared to consensus where it's, it's kind of hilarious looking at it because I'm looking at they took Joe Royer, They obviously have Harold Fanon, but I think Carson Ryan could be their tight end two down the road or some kind of utility player.
Starting point is 00:51:40 So I really liked this draft from the Browns. I gave it a B plus. I think Andrew Berry has done all the national conversation right now is criticizing the John Lynch and James Gladstone's of the world against the consensus board and who's going to win that war and everything. I don't see people giving Andrew Barry enough for in my opinion besides the Austin Barber pick, but to each their own, it's just one pick. and they valued him more. He seems to understand the draft and how things are going to fall and when he can acquire more capital
Starting point is 00:52:12 versus when he can't. And didn't they acquire a 2007 fourth rounder from Seattle? That was the Browns, right? Was that the Browns? Here, let me look. I thought I factored that into my grade here as well. Yes. They got...
Starting point is 00:52:32 Yeah, they got the first. They sent pick 148, a fifth rounder for a 2007 fourth rounder. I gave this a B plus. I just think he knows how to move around the board. This roster is getting much better. You and I are rooting for Todd Munkin. We are fans of his. It's going to be hard to evaluate without a surefire thing at quarterback.
Starting point is 00:52:54 But the Browns did some nice work. This is an A plus draft for me. This is the only A plus that I have. And in order to earn an A plus, not only do I have to love the players that you're drafting, not only do I have to love where you are drafting them. Not only do they have to be good scheme fits, but you also have to win the game of the NFL draft. They moved down from number six to number nine.
Starting point is 00:53:17 They picked up an extra third and a fifth round pick to draft the player that they were probably going to draft at number six anyways, because I don't think any of the teams are going to steal them. So they draft the player that they were going to draft at six anyways and they get some extra draft capital for it. They use that extra draft. capital to be able to trade up a long way to go get Emmanuel McNeill Warren as well. And you mentioned they were able to trade and get 2027 draft capital in this one as well. I think Casey Concepcion is
Starting point is 00:53:43 going to become the best speed option that they have on that team. I know you can look at like, oh, they've got Isaiah Bond. Oh, they have, they have Jerry Judy. I think eventually Casey Concepcion's going to be the number one speed option on this team. Denzel Boston gives them a higher ceiling, bigger-bodied receiver than they had previously. Spencer Fano, like you mentioned, we love a lot. And I think that he could play a variety of different positions on the offensive line. Justin Jefferson, I didn't do the full scouting report on him, but I did watch him when he was at Alabama.
Starting point is 00:54:15 He sort of even could play a little bit of what you would have asked, Jeremiah Ousu Coromo, with the play with him having the neck injury and his NFL career up in the air. I think top to bottom, you got potential difference makers. The only question mark I have here. in this draft is like you mentioned, it's a little bit funny that all of the guys they added in free agency on the offensive line were like real power offensive linemen and all the guys that they drafted were more zone blocking scheme offensive linemen. That could potentially mesh together very, very well or maybe it doesn't.
Starting point is 00:54:49 I'm not sure, but for the way that they acquired players, how they were wheeling and deal in all draft and the roster that came together at the end for the total draft poll. this is an A plus draft for me. I think they navigated this beautifully, and they got some great players because of it. Also, Logan Fano, Spencer Fano's brother, an undrafted free agent signing, and Tyreek Sapp, a good run defending defense event. So I think they cooked this weekend. I love how they did things.
Starting point is 00:55:17 Yeah, factoring in the UDFA is because you see some rankings there, this would definitely move into the A range for me. I think the only thing stopping it from that is I was just lower on Barber and Concepcion than a lot of people and even Brailsford. little bit, but the Browns, this was a really, really strong draft for them. Dallas Cowboys. Sorry about the Cowboys here next. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:55:37 Caleb Downs, number 11 overall, a little trade up to make sure that they went to get him. Malachi Lawrence in the first round as well after a little bit of a trade down. Jay Sean Barnum in the third round at number 92, Drew Shelton, Devin Moore, L.T. Overton and Anthony Smith there in the seventh round. How we feel about this one, Connor? So some of that factors into the grade, of course, is do you accomplish the mission of where you need to improve your team the most. And for Dallas, there is no denying they have drastically changed this defense over the last
Starting point is 00:56:08 calendar year. And this was kind of the cherry on top of that when you get Caleb Downs. He was, in my opinion, the best defender in the draft today. Maybe some guys will evolve and develop beyond that, you know, whether that's Arbel Reese, you know, and some other different guys. But Downs, what a stabilizer for the back end of their defense. to limit the explosive plays that they give up this year. I was very high on Malachi Lawrence as a pass rush year.
Starting point is 00:56:34 He is such a unique athlete. And when you let him pin his ears back and go, he can get after the quarterback in a variety of ways and contain running quarterbacks. Let's not forget this is a division where Jalen Hertz, Jackson Dart, and Jaden Daniels love to run around and make plays. Watch Malachi Lawrence chase quarterbacks in college. It is absolute cinema to watch that guy contain and get to the sideline.
Starting point is 00:56:56 Jash, Barham, you see the plus 36. right there in terms of value. I loved this guy. Now, the weird thing is, I was really excited about him as a stand-up edge at the NFL level. He played both in college. I think at offball linebacker, he's just okay. He's honestly so explosive. Sometimes he overshoots plays and overruns plays. So if Dallas is going to only play him there, I don't think they'll get the most out of him, but I do think he'll play a hybrid role. And then one guy I just have a feeling I'm going to regret being too low on. And I only had it that way because he's been hurt for multiple years of college is Devin Moore. Devin Moore's tape, size, speed, ball skills is starting corner,
Starting point is 00:57:33 starting outside corner. It's just that he has been hurt consistently throughout college. And this was the one year where you're watching and go, okay, this is the guy we've been waiting for him. We love. So for Dallas, I gave it an A minus because they did such a good job accomplishing their mission on the defensive side of the ball where this unit looks totally different. I gave this a B plus. I was between A minus B plus. So I'm kind of like right there with you. what brings it down a little bit for me. I mean, getting tailed down as number 11 is excellent. I mean, especially they were sitting there at number 12 and they went,
Starting point is 00:58:03 no, no, no, no, we're not messing around here. Let's trade up the number 11. Let's make sure that we go get him. I love the aggressiveness there. Malachi Lawrence gives him some more juice on the edge, which I like. If they're playing barram as an off ball linebacker, I don't love that as much, but I still think there's a world where he'll do plenty of attack in the pocket. So I don't love that they drafted him to be an off ball,
Starting point is 00:58:23 but I think that that's totally fine. I do like the football player. I don't love Drew Shelton. Especially if they're keeping him at offensive tackle. Devin Moore, you mentioned, I think that's certainly plus value for me. And you see that on my big board, even in a vacuum. L.T. Overton's fine. I mean, you're drafting him late fourth round at that point.
Starting point is 00:58:42 I just, I didn't see him as a fringe top 100 player that some other people did. But the value is fine. It was two spots off of where I had him on my regular board. And then I'll factor in the fact that they also traded a fifth round pick for D winners. So you look at the linebacker level and it's like, hey, at least you're getting a veteran linebacker in there and it's a little bit different for you. So B plus A minus, but I do like what a lot of the Cowboys did. And certainly the splash selection of Caleb Downs is, is awesome. And that's going to be a total game changer for them. So yeah,
Starting point is 00:59:11 B plus A minus is sort of where I was at. Maybe I'm being a little bit too harsh, not giving them the A minus just for making sure that they went to get Caleb Downs. But yeah, that's where I was at with Cowboys. A good reminder to all you people watching. If you're new to the show, please hit like and subscribe, especially subscribe. So you don't mean, look at that. Well over 70,000. Over 70K. Look at you guys. Unbelievable.
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Starting point is 01:00:15 they'll give us their ideas for what they want to hear on the show. And we definitely listen, especially during the summer. But we appreciate you guys. Devere Broncos. You know, Connor, saw some I saw some mixed reviews here with the Denver Broncos class. So I'm very curious to hear what you have to say about this group. Tyler, go ahead. Tyler on Yadim, the defensive lineman from Texas A&M, he was their first selection. Jonah Coleman, who was one of your day three difference makers. He got the badge there from you. Cage Casey also in the fourth round. Justin Jolie is one of the day three difference makers from me who they got in the fifth round. And then the seventh round, Miles Scott, Dalen Bentley, and Red Murdoch.
Starting point is 01:00:58 They also signed Tori and York, by the way, as a untrafted free agent. You love to see that. So this was a team that, of course, did not have a first round pick. And I factored into this, the fact that they got Jalen Waddle with a first round pick here. But what was your grade overall? Or just give us your assessment first, and then we'll have the grade. Yeah, if I factored in Waddle, this is an A plus. But just going off of the collection of players, I mean, it was always an uphill battle
Starting point is 01:01:24 because they literally didn't make a pick to the third round. And as much as there's things I like about on Yadam, both as a run defender and an athlete, it was still a reach based on my board. And then they just went nuts on value, where it was some of the most impressive day three work of any team in this entire draft. Jonah Coleman, I'll say it over and over again,
Starting point is 01:01:43 he will be leading this backfield at some point because he is just ready out of the gate. He runs hard. He gets downhill. He's got soft hands when you've got to dump it off. Cage Casey, he's a technician. He's not the most physically impressive human on the offensive line, but he's played so much college football at left tackle
Starting point is 01:02:00 that he is very precise with his hands, his base, and he's probably going to play more guard than tackle. But if you get into an emergency, he has enough tackle experience. How about Christmas time in Denver with Justin Joey, man? Yeah, this is a tight end that, you know, I want you to talk about him because I know you highlighted him, but just such a fit with Peyton.
Starting point is 01:02:18 Miles Scott was underrated in this process. I don't know why he didn't get a combine invite. And then Red Murdoch being Mr. Irrelevant is just absurd. I mean, it's completely absurd to me. This guy was a downhill thumper for Buffalo. He set the NCAA record for force fumbles over his time there. He's so physical. He's smart.
Starting point is 01:02:40 I think Red Murdoch has the rare chance to be a Mr. Irrelevant spot starter at some point with his physicality. I was a fan of this draft. I gave it a B, and that's absurd when they didn't make a picket the third round. If you went on the curve of the fact that they moved the first rounder for Waddle, it's obviously an A. Yeah, I went with a B plus for this team. Like B plus A minus, this is sort of like the conversation that I was having here. I mean, you factor in the fact that they did trade a first round pick for Jalen Waddle. I think that getting that's huge for them. The rest of the
Starting point is 01:03:10 guys, I mean, I see some people in the chat saying like, man, this is a zero starter draft. Yeah, but this is already a really good roster. And I think a lot of these players are going to be mixing into the starting lineup or at least into the rotation pretty. Jonah Coleman will be a starter. One Yadam is, I think, perfect for this defensive line. He could play nose for you. He could play three technique. He play four. I, play all the different alignments that you want from an
Starting point is 01:03:33 interior defensive line spot. Jonah Coleman, I think is going to be a difference maker for this team. I think him and RJ Harvey are a really nice one-two duo. And then obviously we will see what J.K. Dobbins can give them as well. Cage Casey's a very versatile interior offensive lineman, who's a good depth player. Jolie, I think,
Starting point is 01:03:50 is great for them. I mean, they have Adam Trowman on the team still. They've got Evan Ingram, but now you have another player who, to me, can play as a wingback tight end. He can play in the slot. You can do a lot of different things with Justin Choli, who has some versatile receiving experience.
Starting point is 01:04:06 So I think a B plus, A minus, if you're factoring in the Wattle trade, is very fair for the Broncos, where I feel like I've seen a lot of people be very low on them and be like, ah, they didn't do anything in this draft. I think they did a lot to really help out that next wave of rotation.
Starting point is 01:04:22 players on a roster that's already good. And I think you certainly got to take that into account when you're kind of factoring in how they were able to navigate this class. So B plus for the Broncos, I think this is a team that once again, one of the better rosters in the NFL. And they got deeper. They got deeper with this draft class. And I think that the floor is higher for this team. And I think that how they can sustain a long season and even getting into the playoffs was helped by the players that they drafted this weekend. All right.
Starting point is 01:04:49 Detroit Lions. Detroit Lions. Detroit Lions draft class here. They go Blake Miller and number 17 overall. This is one of my favorite fits here of any of the players that were drafted. Derek Moore goes number 44, which, by the way, I will say this. I gave this a lower grade when we were doing the draft show on BR because I was like, man, I don't think they needed to trade up for Derek Moore.
Starting point is 01:05:17 There were a handful of other pass rushers that were on the board. a couple of them that I had even ranked higher than Derek Moore, who I didn't think is a bad player. I think I had him ranked, you know, right around number 60. So getting him at 44, it's not terrible value there for him. But I didn't think they need to trade up. But then Lions fans correctly, like afterwards were saying, hey, they had to get in front of the Raven specifically because Jesse Minter, who coached him when he was at Michigan, was going to maybe snip him from the Lions if they were going to wait. So I totally understand that that does factor into it. So I'm not as harsh on that there. But anyways, Jimmy Roller, the linebacker from Michigan going in the fourth
Starting point is 01:05:54 round, Keith Abney in the fifth, Kendrick Law in the fifth as well, Skyler Gil Howard in the sixth, and then Tyree West, the edge rusher from Tennessee to round things out here. They did sign Luke Goathemeyer as a undrafted free agent. Need to make sure that I let the chat know that as well. Connor, what you think is class. I usually love what Brad Holmes and Dan Campbell do, but this one was off the rails for me. It was actually not off the rails in terms of the players they typically like. I just didn't value these players the way they did. Blake Miller, when they took him at 17,
Starting point is 01:06:27 I have to stick with their. I think he is a starting right tackle, but I did like Maxi Hanacher, Monroe Freeling, and Caleb Lomu better than him. Now, I understand not taking Lomu because Miller is a four-year starter that's more ready to play, and the Lions need somebody ready to
Starting point is 01:06:44 play. And all those guys are a little raw. So that was probably their thinking. The Miller pick was like, far from my problem with this draft. I think he actually makes a lot of sense for Detroit. I do not like the Derek Moore selection of 44 at all. If that was their reasoning, I actually,
Starting point is 01:07:00 that makes me like it even less because there was multiple edge players I would have taken over him in that spot, including Zion Young, who went right after. Rolder's a smart, instinctual run defender, but I thought he was a two-down linebacker.
Starting point is 01:07:11 I don't really mind where they took him. Keith Abney was my favorite pick because I think he has starting corner traits. I did not really value, value, Kendrick Law is okay, but Skyler Gil Howard and Tyree West, to me, it was early for them, you know, specifically with Gil Howard. He's someone that he's quick off the ball, but there's no power in his game. He was hurt this year. He didn't test well. He's a total size and length outlier on the interior. I'm kind of surprised Tyree West got picked in the draft. Once again, I think
Starting point is 01:07:45 Abney could be a future starting corner. Miller will be fine in this landing spot. that's he'll be totally fine here. I just don't understand the Derek Moore process and maybe I'll be proven wrong on that, but I don't think he'll live up to the billing of where he was drafted compared to the edge players on the board. Usually love what the lions do, love what they're all about,
Starting point is 01:08:03 but I gave this to C. I gave this one to B plus. I love Blake Miller. Even though I had Maxianature ranked slightly ahead of where Blake Miller was on my big board, Miller is perfect for them. He started 54 straight games at Clemson. plug him in at right tackle. He could play immediately. They needed that, right? They needed somebody
Starting point is 01:08:24 that could play right away for them to move Penny Sewell over to the left side. So I think the specific player and a player that I just really liked. I had him number 17 overall on my big board. This is right on target for where I had him and how I valued him. I thought the Jimmy Roalder pick was good linebacker depth in the fourth round. There are other linebackers that I would have considered there, but I think Jimmy Roalder was sort of around that range for any of them. So, you know, a lot of times when you talk about early day three linebackers just like, sure, pick whichever one that you feel like is going to match up your scheme and maybe sort of like a football character thing that might separate some of those guys. So maybe they really love Jimmy Roulder as that one year starter
Starting point is 01:09:02 coming out of Michigan. Keith Abney, I liked a lot. I really like Skylar Gil Howard. That's, that's one of my favorites and somebody that I'm glad that Detroit took the chance on there. The Derek Moore selection, yes, would I have rather had them take Zion Young or Gabe Accus? Or Gay Back. Sure. That's why this isn't an A for. for me. This is why that's why it's a B plus for me. And you could say like, hey, they had to trade up to get in front of the Baltimore Ravens to take their guy. Very clearly, they liked Derek more, more than those other edge rushers. That's fine. I had those other edge rushers, even power profile edge rushers, right? Zion Young, he's a power profile edge rusher. Gabe
Starting point is 01:09:38 Ackis, the same thing. So you can say, hey, they liked the skill set that Derek more brought to the table. That's totally fine. Those two, I would have had over, over Derek. more as well. So that is what, and it's not to say, that is not to say that like Derek Moore cannot be a good pick. There are just other edge rushers, even in that classification of skill set that I would have rather had over them. So that's why it's not an A for me, but I really liked a lot of the rest of what the Lions did here. So I'm giving this, I'm giving this draft to B plus. All right. All right. Staying the division, we got Green Bay right after them. Green Bay Packers. So is where we start to sweat, what the grade is going to be here for the Packers.
Starting point is 01:10:18 Brandon Cise, their first selection in the second round, because obviously they traded their first round pick for Michael Parsons. I didn't really factor that one in here. Maybe I should have, but I didn't really factor that in. Chris McClellan, number 77 overall in the third round. Then in the fourth round, they got denied Dennis Sutton. Fifth round, Jacob Burton, the interior offensive line from Kentucky. Sixth round, a pair of six-round picks,
Starting point is 01:10:38 Domani Jackson, the corner from Alabama, and Trace Mack the kicker from Florida. So. Peter gave it an F, but Peter's the Bears fan. So you might be able to. a little bit bias on brand just a tiny bit c-say i've just been low man on him he he is aggressive and physical against the run he's a good athlete he's got enough size he just has no awareness and instincts right now and he's a 20-year-old so i get that side of it as a cover player and he does
Starting point is 01:11:09 not get his head around so he's a projection and a developmental player that green bay has hit on guys like that they've missed on guys like that is just what they do they love taking guys that are more of projections. And sometimes they strike gold and sometimes they end up very frustrated. Chris McClellan, as much as I was lower on him where they took him, I think it makes a lot of sense for Green Bay. You get alignment versatility up front. He had some pass rush juice, which really, really stood out to me.
Starting point is 01:11:35 I did like Big Citrus a lot better than him. And they passed on Big Citrus from McClellan. So I factored that in. Did I, Dennis Sutton? He does not play to his athleticism, but he was a real fit for this team. is you see, that's where I thought they got value because they lost Kingsley and Iqbari in free agency and he could do a lot of the things that they asked Kingsley to do. So that was a really ideal fit.
Starting point is 01:11:56 They always get the most out of guys like Jager Burton from Kentucky, these interior offensive linemen that play with a lot of power and have some versatility. They always seem to find one on day two or day three. So I know Green Bay will probably make me look like an idiot on that one. DeMani Jackson just never became the shutdown corner. We were all hoping since he was a recruit and at USC to Alabama. I think Alabama actually sat him down for a little bit this year as he struggled at times. And then you take a kicker.
Starting point is 01:12:22 So I wrote in my write-up that used the first round picking a package from Michael Parsons. That was a great move. But it makes an uphill battle because you have less players in this class to earn a high grade. But I gave this a C-plus because I'm just, I'm not a C-Say believer. And I might look really, really foolish for that in the end, but we're going to see. See, I like C-Say. So I think that's a difference. I like C-Say.
Starting point is 01:12:43 Three of their first four picks, I liked. And when I talk about how they don't have a first round pick, C-Say is somebody that was plus value from where I had him on the draft board. I believe in him in the NFL. I believe that you can turn him into a really nice corner. Chris McLean, I think, is a really good scheme fit for them. Sutton is as well, even though, like I said, I'm with you. He never really played to his athletic potential.
Starting point is 01:13:06 I do kind of think that he's a scheme fit for them. I definitely think that Jager Burton's a scheme fit for them. He can play center or guard if they need it. DeMani Jackson's just sort of like the, yeah, this is a, this is a Packers kind of a corner with the size and the length and everything. And then they're drafted a kicker in the sixth round. But it is a Florida kicker. So I got to make sure that I give the salute and plus points for that one.
Starting point is 01:13:26 I get this a B. I gave this draft a B because I believe in the three out of the first four players that they drafted here. I think that this really comes down to do you like Brandon C. Say, do you like Chris McClellan? The answer to both of those questions is yes for me. So that's why I ended up giving it a B here. All right, Houston Texans. The Houston Texans, let's see.
Starting point is 01:13:54 They drafted Keel and Rutledge in the first round. Then they moved up for Caden McPounder, who got one of your badges here. Oh, yeah. Marlon Klein at number 59. As we all expected. Of course. Fabiw, the interior offensive lineman from Oklahoma in the fourth round. Wade Woodes in the fourth round as well.
Starting point is 01:14:16 Camarie Ramsey in the fifth. Lewis Bond in the 6th and then Aidan Fisher in the 7th. How do we feel? So it's time to McPound, which is always awesome. Caden McDonald's was one of my favorite fits. That's why he's highlighted. I was so pumped up when they picked him. They moved up for McPounder, which was, you know,
Starting point is 01:14:36 the Texans are a fast physical team. Kaelin Rutledge is a brawler in the run game. Caden McDonald is going to be such a good player for the middle up front of this defense. Marlon Klein was one of the most wild picks of the entire NFL draft. Yeah. One of the most wild picks. And once again, I'm not even directly calling the Texans crazy because seeing what
Starting point is 01:15:00 Jacksonville did and seeing what other teams did and hearing after it that the tight ends were all just going to go. Like this is just where the teams were compared to the media. I don't have to agree, by the way, that Marlon Klein is worth the 59th overall pick in the draft. Wee Wu is a guy that I love his story, walked on at North Texas, became a starter, became a starter at Oklahoma, hard worker, really, really strong. I like the depth that he provides in the fourth round.
Starting point is 01:15:30 Aiden Fisher, down the board, I get it. He's not athletic and he lacks length and he just always overcomes that from instincts and being tough and in the fight where if he hung on a roster, I'd be like, yeah, I'm not surprised. It's just what Aiden Fisher does. He just finds a way. all the time. I get this draft of B-minus, with it being heavily carried by McPounder and Rutledge, because they're going to be real players in the trenches for this team. I just wish they got
Starting point is 01:15:57 somebody with more value at 59. I mean, it could have been a draft. It's just so off the wall, and you're going to hear this criticism of multiple teams. I just don't get it. I hope Marlon Klein develops into the player that they're dreaming of. But we've watched a lot of him over the years and he's still developmental. But yeah, it just got really weird after two great picks, in my opinion, besides Fabecchi, Wee Wu.
Starting point is 01:16:27 Yeah, I initially had it a B plus, but I give it a B, to be honest with you. I like the Keelan Rutledge pick. I like the Cade McDonald pick. I like that they, honestly, I even like that they traded up to get both of those guys. Yeah, I like that they identified them
Starting point is 01:16:42 and they said, these guys are scheme fits. They're going to be difference makers for us. I mean, going up to get Caden McDonald, I think this is a great team fit for Cade and McDonald. I think he's going to be complimenting this defensive line really, really well. It's funny because we also talked about Peter Woods, a potential fit for this team because it's more of an attacking style defense.
Starting point is 01:16:57 But now I think that they're going to have the ability to use Caden McDonald to take up more blocks to really keep the other guys free at the defensive line level and the linebacker level. So I think this gives them a new dimension on their defensive line. The Marlin Klein pick, yeah, which just, crazy to me. Crazy. I mean, wild.
Starting point is 01:17:16 I think that's going to be a, that's going to be a major talking point of basically like every single draft class that drafted a tight end. I mean, we talked about that, but Chicago Bears where I go, damn, okay, well, I think Stan Rouse was kind of a little over drafted with where he went. But you look at the fact that Klein and Bore Kircher go before him.
Starting point is 01:17:34 And I think the Bears almost, I don't know, say panic, but basically I said, okay, well, all bets are off. Who knows when all these tight ends are, what are we going to get 12 tight ends? going the top 80 at this point. So I don't love that pick, but I think we lose a solid pick for them. I would have rather had a handful of linebackers over Woodh as. I actually like this landing spot for Kamari Ramsey.
Starting point is 01:17:54 I think the Damico Ryans is going to make the most out of them. We've seen them do that before. I know. So I do like that a good amount. I like getting aided pitcher in the seventh round. Call on the right they had as an undrafted free agent to shout them out as well. But I think this is a B. And I wish I could be higher on this class, but the Klein pick.
Starting point is 01:18:12 was just so off the wall, man, I'm with you. I just kind of, maybe they'll all prove us wrong with these tight ends. Yeah. It's hard to not look at it right now. And I think you put it best. I wish there's more value to get out of number 55 than where Marlon Klein currently is right now as a player. That takes us to the Indianapolis Colts. Chris Ballard, he's at it again, folks. We've got two badges on this one. We've got one of your, we've got one. we've got one of your favorite fits overall,
Starting point is 01:18:44 and then we have one of my day three difference makers here. You chose A.J. Halsey, and I, of course, chose Dionne Burks, who was a whopping plus 186 for where he was selected versus where he was on my big board. They didn't have a first round pick because obviously that was part of the sauce gardener trade this past season. But they did draft C.J. Allen in the second round, A.J. Halsey in the third. Jalen Farmer in the fourth, Bryce Becher in the fourth. George Gumbs Jr. The edge rush out of Florida, 156 in the fifth round.
Starting point is 01:19:16 Sixth rounder, Caden Curry, seventh rounder, Seth McGowan. And then I mentioned Dionne Bergson, the wider's here from Oklahoma, going at 254. Travesty, an absolute travesty. How that happened. Connor, there's a lot of green on that screen from value with what Chris Ballard did. What you think? Look at all that green. I'm actually upping this grade from my written grade, which was still very high.
Starting point is 01:19:40 but I'll get to that in the second. CJ Allen, they need to get younger at linebacker at 53, sign me up all day. Gets everybody lined up, good instincts against the run. When he was healthy, he looked like a totally different player compared to the end of the season. Halsey gets my badge for one of my favorite fits, plays with an attitude, physical, 220 pounds, takes away the football in the air, elite instincts, great situational awareness. Jalen Farmer, I think he's going to be a starter at guard. just absolutely forklift defenders off the line of scrimmage.
Starting point is 01:20:13 Bryce Becher, drafted in multiple sports now, MLB draft pick of the Astros, plays like an absolute maniac. Gumbs, developmental edge rusher, who's very late to the position, came to college as a pass catcher. And then they get three real players from 214 to 254. Caden Curry, I get he has no length, but the effort he plays with on the edge helped him make plays. Seth McGowan can be your RB2 and then Dionne Burks can be a great backup to Josh Downs in the slot. So it's just so hard to get this amount of value when you traded away your
Starting point is 01:20:49 first round pick. I'm giving this an A minus. I just Ballard needed a draft like this man. He really, really did. It's been a weird couple years for the Colts and then they felt so close this year. And then they got hit with injuries after the deadline that sunk them. But to get this many starters without a first rounder is very, very hard to do. Yeah, this is an easy A for me for what they were able to do here. You don't have a first rounder and you come away with all of these names. It felt like Chris Ballard just got plus value all the way around. A lot of teams were, and I get it, this is how the draft goes, right?
Starting point is 01:21:24 You have some teams that are really focused on just drafting off of their boards, the Jaguars, which we'll get to next to their next team here. And I think that if enough teams do that at enough certain positions, Chris Ballard has shown that he's the sort of GM to sort of sit back, let the draft unfold as it may. And he goes, all right, fine, you're going to let this player get to me. I'm going to draft them here. And fortunately for him, that basically came at all the positions of need as well. They needed a live backer badly more than one selection.
Starting point is 01:21:51 And they got CJ Allen and then they got Bryce Betcher. They needed some new interior offensive linemen to believe in there. They got Jalen Farmer. They needed some new defensive linemen as well. I kind of wish they went interior defensive line. But still, getting George Gums. and Caden Curry there in round five and round six, that's great value. I think Seth McGowan is a legit running back for this team and can really make this team
Starting point is 01:22:13 and get into that running back rotation. And certainly, Dionne Burks, I mean, that's some serious speed that they did not have on the team coming from the slot previously. I think the Josh Downs is great, but I mean, Dionne Burks is a different type of athlete, I think. So difference makers everywhere and at specific positions of need, I think that Chris Bauer navigated this entire draft beautifully. especially for a team that might have been sweating a little bit, not having a first round pick,
Starting point is 01:22:39 knowing that they really, really had to have to hit the gas pedal in 2026 with all of the players that they've acquired. Yeah, the Colts, man, it's, I can't wait to watch these guys fly around for them this year. It's, you know, Ballard really got back to his SEC roots and just said, you know what? I'm going to go with what got me this job,
Starting point is 01:22:57 and I think it'll pay off for them. Dude, and even Jaylen Farmer. Like, Jaylen Farmer, somebody who, like, if you had to plop them in to play right away in the NFL right now, you might not love it. it, but he doesn't have to. He doesn't have to. I'm saying if you had to plop him into the NFL right now,
Starting point is 01:23:10 there's some inconsistencies with this game. But this is a high-ceiling player, and he doesn't have to start right away. They've got offensive linemen that are there, but I think that Farmer just raises the ceiling of what that offensive line could be now in Indianapolis. All right. Next up.
Starting point is 01:23:26 The Jacksonville Jaguars, everybody. Whole lot of red on this one. Nate Borkercher was, their first, Connor, I totally forgot that that wasn't just a pick for them in the second round. That's how they kicked it off. That was their first selection of the draft. Imagine sitting down as a Jags fan and be like, I've been waiting two days for this. Nate Boer, the tight end of Texas A&M, goes at number 56 as their first selection.
Starting point is 01:24:03 Albregius, the defense tackle from Texas A&M in the third round. Emmanuel Pregnont of the third round as well. And then Jalen Husky, the safety from Maryland at number 100 is the final pick of the third round. Wesley Williams in the fourth, Tanner Coziel in the fifth, Josh Cameron in the sixth, C.J. Williams, the wider from Stanford in the sixth. Zach Durfey, the edge rusher from Washington at 233 in the seventh round. And then Parker Hughes, the linebacker from Middle Tennessee State at number 240. They also signed Joey Aguilar and Jamarry Taylor as a notable undrafted free agents. Oh, if you put those guys in at the seventh round, I would have been like, oh, okay, nice job, good.
Starting point is 01:24:43 Yeah. What'd you think, Connor? So I know everybody in the chat is spamming F. Emmanuel Preggnot alone on this board is going to prevent that happening. I don't know about that, partner. Oh, boy. So, Borker, I noticed this. like wrap around reaction now from people where they're like, well,
Starting point is 01:25:05 Borker is actually better than people realize. And I think that's correct. I think when you turn on the tape, you understand that the offense isn't going to get him a lot of throws and rhythm, and he's tough and he's physical. But let's also not lose sight of that he's going to be a 25-year-old rookie that didn't test well and hasn't been productive in how many years of college at 56 overall. Like we don't need to do the, well, actually, for the 56 overall pick in the draft.
Starting point is 01:25:30 You want to do it for 180? Okay, I understand. So Regis hard hat run defender. You and I really liked him. You were really early on Regis. I think Pregnon's a starter at guard. I have no idea what happened with the next three picks. I really don't.
Starting point is 01:25:46 Husky is a hybrid corner safety that hasn't really found consistency at either. Wesley Williams was a really good run. Which they already have, by the way. Yeah, I was going to say, and they have this player. Wesley Williams was a good run defender in college. And he generated a lot of pressure. but the reason he did not turn a lot of those,
Starting point is 01:26:02 that large amount of pressures into sacks is because he doesn't have the athleticism or the speed to finish more plays. That's only going to get harder at the next level, and he has no length, and he tested really poorly. I think he's going to be an okay run-stopping three-four defensive end as his highest end outcome.
Starting point is 01:26:20 Coziel, it's just when you're, I get it, he has ball skills, but when you're a tight end that cannot be put on the field to block in any capacity, I don't know how you're on the field at the NFL. level. I like Josh Cameron. He could play special teams. He tracks the deep ball. He's got a wide frame. He was a player that I really, really liked in this draft. And then I thought I saw a reef post that both
Starting point is 01:26:41 C.J. Williams and Parker Hughes were in the late 600s on the consensus sport. On the consensus sport. Yeah. Someone else was like, that's two whole drafts. Like, that's doing the NFL draft more than twice. So I'm going to be honest with you. I didn't evaluate C.J. Williams and Parker Hughes. So maybe James Gladstone knows something. that the people up here don't. Shout out to the Jets fan in Radio City. That was very confused once upon a time after they did something stupid. They put a microphone in front of this Jets fan's face at Radio City after they did something dumb.
Starting point is 01:27:11 And he just goes, obviously the Jets know something that the people up here don't. All time, all timer, if you ever want to look that one up. But bring the draft back to Radio City. I mean, James Gladstone is an absolute maniac. He's either going to live on the edge and be the smartest man. in the room or he's going to go out his way. I gave this a D plus. I completely agree with what you said there. I gave this draft an F. And if it's and if this comes out to be a great contributing draft for Jacksonville, I will be the first one to put my hand up and say, hey, you know what?
Starting point is 01:27:50 This is a draft where I absolutely sort of have to look at the value of where I had guys and how you go about plans, but we did this too many times with Belichick drafts. Yeah, you're right. He must know. He must know. We all just went, oh, yeah, like the greatest coach of all time is obviously going to draft these players that he knows are going to be great. And a lot of them were very bad, very bad.
Starting point is 01:28:18 So it's, I think that even for the players that they got that I like, like, like Albert Regis, I think is going to be a great rotational defensive lineman for them. Yeah. The best case scenario for me with this draft is you maybe have one starter, maybe. And it's Emmanuel Pregnone. Like there's a world where Emmanuel Pregnone becomes your starting guard. I like Albregius a lot. I don't really know if he's ever going to be a starting defensive tackle for you. A great rotational defensive tackle. Yes. And I totally see the value there. Borker, I think that you drafted him to free up Brent and Strange. And to be a good backup plan at Brenton Strange gets hurt.
Starting point is 01:29:00 I can see the value there. But like you mentioned, this is an older prospect. He's been around college football a while, does not have any receiving production at all whatsoever. And that was your first pick. That was your first selection of this draft. This was so against the grain in so many ways that I just have to say that I did not like this at all. I did not like how they went about this process at all whatsoever.
Starting point is 01:29:32 And this is one of those drafts that if it, if it's a great draft, I'll just go, I was wrong. 100%. I was wrong. Yeah. There's no excuses for it. There's no, well, this happened, will this happen, whatever. I will make excuses for it.
Starting point is 01:29:47 If this is a great draft, I'll be wrong. But I look at this draft right now after draft weekend and I go, boy, you better hope a lot of these players pan out the way that you specifically thought that they were going to because I don't think most of the rest of the NFL saw a lot of these players the way the Jags did. So like you said, he's either a genius or this is going to be real bad. So let me have an old man yelling at the cloud moment here because this drove me freaking crazy when Robert Sala was with the Jets. I am so sick of GMs and coaches that think they are above the NFL combine.
Starting point is 01:30:25 you are not smart enough to skip the biggest NFL draft event of the year. You're not. You need to be there. You need to be talking to everybody you can. You need to be meeting with all of these players. You need to be boots on the ground in it. Why would you not? What is the reason to not?
Starting point is 01:30:44 If you had a family issue or you had a anything like that, I totally get it. But I've read his quote of why they didn't. And he's just trusting the process and their department. and everything, and I get, like, he's a really smart guy, and I'm a huge Liam Cohen fan. I think Liam Cohen is awesome. Me too. Me too. But the GM of the team has to go to the NFL Combine. And if you're wrong about this, that's going to come back to you on this. I wouldn't say that Bill Belichick was a good role model for how he was a general manager.
Starting point is 01:31:19 And that's the way that Bill Belichick was a general manager. not going to the combine picking off of a board that was 30 players deep and that's it you know yeah so yeah man I hated it I hated this I hated this Jags draft and like I said if it's good and I'm with you I have a lot of faith in Liam Cohen so maybe maybe Liam Cohen here's the crazy maybe Liam Cohen like he makes it work and I can see it where reality like but like I said if these players work out I'll put my hand up and tell you I was wrong, but right now after the draft, I hated it. Their roster's awesome.
Starting point is 01:31:57 Their coach is awesome. Their quarterback looks like he has tapped into being the player we expect him to be. I think the Jags are going to be really, really good, which makes this even more frustrating, in my opinion. I'm with you. Kansas City is the next team that we got here. Man, sort of lane, number six overall. A little trade-up to get to that point.
Starting point is 01:32:17 Peter Woods at the back end of the first round. R. Mason Thomas, your boy, Jaden Kennedy. Emmett Johnson in the fifth, Cyrus Allen in the fifth, your boy as well. Yo, this, yo, you get, you get your boy draft. This is, this is actually the your boy draft. My longest gay boy ever. Especially on day three,
Starting point is 01:32:37 Garin Usmeyer at 249. What are we doing? How did you, how'd you feel about this draft? Pretty dang good, man. Pretty than good. I mean, Vech really seemed to, and you know, of course,
Starting point is 01:32:51 you have more capital, which helps. but Veach had to really, really dig deep because this is Patrick Mahomes era part two now where so many of the players that they were a contender with for so long are aging out or retired or not on the roster or getting to the end. And this is a great way to kind of turn into that phase. Delane, we know what he can do in man coverage for Spags.
Starting point is 01:33:15 Same with Jaden Kennedy out of the slot, who is one of my guys. Peter Woods, man, if he can get close to 2020, form is that disruptive defensive tackle. And you took him at 29. It's not like he went that early. It was just a smidgerly.
Starting point is 01:33:29 R Mason Thomas, he gives them an element as a rusher that they don't have. They have guys with power and edge setting, but R Mason Thomas has the momentum and speed and bend. I love Emmett Johnson as a pass catching running back. Cyrus Allen is one of my day three impact guys. He just gets open. And I think when Cyrus Allen goes through training camp and goes through the preseason, he's going to turn a lot of heads.
Starting point is 01:33:51 And people are going to like, we're going to have to play this guy sometimes because he's just a polished receiver for us that's generating separation. And then you get the Nussbuss at round seven. And it's interesting what happened with Nussmire in this draft. But this is a great place for him to develop over time, hopefully into a QB2. I like this draft, man. I love this draft. I gave it an A. Okay, you give a straight A.
Starting point is 01:34:12 I'll give this, I'll give this an A minus. I gave this draft an A minus here. I actually liked that they were aggressive to go up and get Mansour Delane. But you know what I liked more than that? I love the fact that Brett Veach was a little bit different this year because I mentioned this in the mock draft episode that we had before the draft. Kansas City, at least since 2022, which is the research that I had that I felt confident about going back to just 22,
Starting point is 01:34:36 had not drafted a player in the first round that they had not had extensive time with top 30 visits, whatever it was at all. All four, all three of those, well, 2022, 2022, 2023, 2024, 2024, 2025. So it was four. So four drafts, they had done that. they, it was reported or wasn't reported. They never met with the lane. And afterwards, Brett Beach was like, yeah, we disguised.
Starting point is 01:35:00 We had to, like, hide how much we liked this guy. We did not want anybody on our trail of how much we like this guy. And so I think that's a salute. That's a brilliant job. I love that. I'm going to give you credit for that. I like Peter Woods in this front. We talked about how I wouldn't love him on every single team as a first round pick,
Starting point is 01:35:17 but I really like him in this defensive front. It's going to be an attacking style. I like the rotation of him and Chris Jones and Omar Norman Lott. I love that they went with R. Mason Thomas and Jaden Kennedy. These are two players who aren't necessarily built the way that a traditional Spaggs Corner and defensive linemen are built. But I actually think that a little bit of what's different is going to be good for this team. So I like both of those players. And I like their fit with this team and how they're a little bit different here.
Starting point is 01:35:45 I thought Emma Johnson was good value. I like the player. I wonder if it would have been better suited to get somebody with a little bit more straight line speed because I felt like that's really what was missing from this team, that sort of long explosiveness. So maybe Demone Claiborne would have been a better selection there. I think he was on the board at the time at 161.
Starting point is 01:36:05 I got to go back and make sure, but I'm pretty sure he was. No offensive line pick, but hey, I guess Chiefs fans were right. Like they think that offensive line is good to go. So they think that their offensive line is good to go, but the rest of the draft I did like. So I gave this an A-minus here for Kansas City. Yeah, really good job by the Chiefs, is they kind of enter a new era with their roster.
Starting point is 01:36:27 The Las Vegas Raiders, John SpyTech, added again here. Your boy. You gave the Germann McCoy selection, one of your day three difference makers badges here. I know it's kind of feels too easy if he's healthy. Yeah, it's a little. I mean, you're cheating a little bit here, but that's all right. Fernando Mendoza at the tops, Trayton Stooks in the second round, Kieran Crawford and Trey Zune in the third,
Starting point is 01:36:52 Jermond McCoy in the fourth, Mike Washington in the fourth, Dalton Johnson, the safety from Arizona in the fifth, Hezkaya masses, the corner from California in the fifth, and then Malik Benson, the wide receiver from Oregon, as well as Brandon Cleveland, the defense attacker from NC State in the seventh. Notable undrafted free agent signings,
Starting point is 01:37:08 my boy, Chase Roberts, the wide receiver out of BYU, which I love that pickup from them. And then they also got Roman Hemby, the other running back from Indiana as an undrafted pre-agent. Connor, what did you think? Good call on the UDFAs. I had a fifth round grade on Roberts
Starting point is 01:37:25 at 179. Dude, me, yeah. Roberts was awesome. I think he'll make the team. I really think he'll make the team. As for the draft, you look at the top, it's very steady Eddie in the beginning.
Starting point is 01:37:37 It's, okay, you got Fernando Mendoza, duh, who was totally worth that pick. Trade and Stukes, who I think can do a lot of different things in the secondary despite just being kind of the slot cover guy for Arizona. It's funny. You got his teammate Dalton Johnson, who was always around the ball. Kearron Crawford, good first step, Twitch as a rusher, very raw as a run defender, but
Starting point is 01:37:58 he didn't start playing football until I think senior year high school. So there's still more to tap into there. Trey Zoon, I thought he was going to play center, and then the Raiders take him. So I'm a little confused by that one, but I don't think it was egregious. you got to take the swing on Jermad McCoy. It's well worth it there at 101. I like getting a big back to be the second stringer to Gentie,
Starting point is 01:38:23 especially Mike Washington at 122. I valued him closer to the top 100, obviously, right there. And then Malik Benson gives you a vertical threat. Brandon Cleveland can two gap for you. It's not pretty with Brandon Cleveland. He's not some dynamic athlete or anything, but he just, he's a lunch pail player.
Starting point is 01:38:39 He'll just take on blockers and try to hold the four and clog space. So I think the Raiders did a really good job. They didn't try to reinvent the wheel with this draft after they got their quarterback. I gave it a B plus. But the B plus not factoring in how much I love the Chase Roberts and Roman Hemby UDFA signings. I'm a big fan of this draft. I went with an A-minus here.
Starting point is 01:38:59 I think they got a ton of difference makers. I think John Spitex doing a great job. I love that they took the chance on McCoy. I love that they got aggressive to trade up one spot to make sure they were the team that started out the fourth round by taking a chance on him. I think Washington is really good depth at the right range. I know a lot of people talked about Mike Washington. It's like, oh, like, let's take him, you know, eight in the 80s or 70s or something.
Starting point is 01:39:21 I wasn't that high on him, but this is good value for where I had him on my board. And they needed somebody who was a legitimate backup to Asha Genti, so Genti wasn't taking 400 touches a game. I like Hezekiah Masses. That was plus value for me. I think Dalton Johnson's a solid player. I didn't give him the full scouting report on him,
Starting point is 01:39:39 but I saw a little bit of him as I was watching Trade and Stoakes. and Genesis Smith. I love Tray Zoon as a versatile interior offensive lineman who will probably just start as that swing backup, but then could potentially be a starter for them at some point. Stukes is awesome. Fernando Mendoza was the obvious. Kieran Crawford was drafted right around the spot that I wanted him to be at. The only reason why I didn't give this a flat out A is because no defensive tackle
Starting point is 01:40:06 until round seven was pretty surprising for me. That hurt my grade for sure. But here's the thing is again, like, I'm. I was trying to be fair to say, hey, they didn't draft a defensive tackle. And I tried to sort of investigate like, okay, but where would I have drafted a defensive tackle for them? And the only realistic spot that I would have taken a different player over a defensive tackle was McClellan and Big Citrus were still on the board at 67. So you could have gone defensive tackle at 67, but I do still like the Crawford pick. So if I'm subbing out a pick I like for a pick I might have liked a little bit better,
Starting point is 01:40:44 I can't be too harsh on it. So that's why I ended up giving it an A minus. I would have liked to see them get a defensive tackle. But I think that you can get the kind of defensive tackle that they need, which is more of those guys who can hold the line of scrimmage. Those players do come around more often. So I think there's a world where you can either pick one up, maybe in training camp, maybe at the trade deadline,
Starting point is 01:41:03 or even next off season as you're continuing to build your team. So A minus for me here. I really like what John Spitech is building there for the Raiders. Los Angeles Chargers. Next up. The Los Angeles Chargers. They got my boy Akeem Mesidor at number 22. Jake Slaughter then the second round at number 63, who they talked about, if I saw correctly,
Starting point is 01:41:24 like him being a versatile interior offensive lineman for them to play guard or center. Brennan Thompson in the fourth round, Travis Burke in the fourth round, Genesis Smith in the fourth round. And then Nick Barrett, the defense tackle from South Carolina in the fifth, sixth rounders, Logan Taylor, the guard from Boston College, and then Alex Harky, the guard from Oregon. Notable undrafted free agent signings, they signed Nadame Tucker, and they also signed Isaiah World. So just offensive linemen galore here for Los Angeles Chargers. What do you think, Connor? Yeah, if you're Isaiah World's agent, why are you sending him here?
Starting point is 01:42:04 Don't know. Well, he's, maybe they had a plan for him with the injury. that's the only thing I can think of because that's got to be a big pitch to him. But perhaps. Definitely interesting. But either way, good for the Chargers who just attacked O-line depth over and over and over again. I mean, of course, you have the Mike McDaniel, Brennan Thompson pick. No surprise there.
Starting point is 01:42:24 Just give me as much speed as I can get. I like Messador for this team. Me too. Pro ready hands. He can play all three downs for you. Obviously, they needed another edge pass rusher as Cleo Mac is still good, but getting older. So that made a lot of sense to me. Genesis Smith, as much as, you know, we really cooled on him because of the tackling issues,
Starting point is 01:42:45 it's almost like he felt too far because he still can, he still has range in ball skills and can help in coverage if you can somehow iron out the lack of physicality as a tackler. So I throw with the chargers, it's not flashy. This draft lacks upside. But this approach might be what they need because what wrecked them last year was not. high-end talent, it's that they got injured, specifically on the offensive line. I gave it a C-plus, which might seem harsh. I thought it was just an okay draft, but it was tailored more to what sunk them last year,
Starting point is 01:43:22 and I understand that strategy. I think this is a big raise the floor of the team sort of a draft. And for that, I think that it was solid. So I gave this a B grade. I think that's fair. I would have taken Pregnod over Slaughter. So I don't. like the plan on that. I agree with you. Yeah, I think I like Slaughter as a player.
Starting point is 01:43:42 And very clearly, very clearly they loved Slaughter, but you did just sign Biotish. Maybe, maybe they signed Biotish because they're like, hey, we want to make a splash on the interior offensive line. Maybe they don't love Biotish as a scheme fit for McDaniel. I don't know. That's not good plan. Well, I know it's not a good plan, but it's expensive, bad scheme fit. It is, but I'm trying to put myself in their shoes and it's like they needed to do something on the interior offensive lines. So maybe they were like, hey, he's just, he's one of the most talented ones that's out there. Let's bring him onto the team. Maybe they just love Slaughter more as a scheme fit and even maybe as their potential starter at center eventually. I don't know because if you're drafting Slaughter to play guard, I would have rather had Preggdon to play guard for you. So I would have rather just drafted Pregnon there. The rest of the draft, I don't think it's guys that are really going to start for you. But, But Genesis Smith, for as much as he has tackling issues, at least he is more of a coverage safety where I think a lot of the guys that they have now, like Elijah Molden, R.J. Mickens, Tony Jefferson.
Starting point is 01:44:49 Like, I think all those guys are more strong safety type of safeties. And Genesis Smith, at least, is more of a free safety type of a player. So that's a little bit different. He can get in that rotation. But, like, yeah, Travis Burke, Logan Taylor, Alex Harkie, Isaiah World. like they're just, give me O linemen. Like do not let last year happen ever again. We're going to make sure that we have offensive linemen
Starting point is 01:45:12 and we're going to overdraft the amount of offensive linemen that we might quote unquote need because we're going to make sure that it's never an issue like it was the previous season. So I gave this one a B because to me it was much more about raising the floor, especially if guys start to go out. Like guys get hurt again. You have other players who can now step in.
Starting point is 01:45:31 I think that of Brennan Thompson as well, the wide receiver from Mississippi State. So Mesidor was the impact player for me. The rest of it, I think, was just shoring up the depth to make sure that you can survive a long season and make a longer road into the playoff. All right. So the other L.A. team who- The Los Angeles Rams.
Starting point is 01:45:50 Made a lot of noise. Ty Simpson pick of the top, Trevor. Yeah, we've got five selections here from the Los Angeles Rams. Ty Simpson, number 13 overall. Max Clare, number 61 in the second round. Kee and Trost. the offensive lineman from Missouri at number 93. C.J. Daniels, the wider's here from Miami at 197.
Starting point is 01:46:09 And Tim Keenan, your boy, getting the badge there, the day three difference maker at 232. What did you have as a grade here for this one, Connor? I had a C-minus, which I know I gave out the badge for Keenan because he's a one of my guys. And I think he can really, really be the perfect player to learn behind Puna Ford. But it's a Super Bowl contender that drafted for the future with the top. 15 pick. So, oh, not, not just top 15 pick. Literally every selection.
Starting point is 01:46:40 Yeah. Right. You're right. I mean, who, who makes a difference? You're absolutely right. Like, is Claire playing over any of their tights? No, he's tight in five. He's tied in five on this team.
Starting point is 01:46:50 Kegan Troast is not playing on this team next year, unless somebody gets hurt. And even if he does, he's not a scheme fit. Yeah. It's a C minus because as much as I, I like Claire, I love Tim Keenan. they didn't have a lot of picks. I do not like the process for Ty Simpson at all. The Rams, in my opinion, need to do everything they can to floor it
Starting point is 01:47:12 and get better to win a Super Bowl next year. And they almost did none of that. I was looking at this draft and I was asking myself, I was like, would I trade all of these picks to go up and get any of the guys that went in the top 10? And the answer is yes.
Starting point is 01:47:26 Of course. I'd rather just not take any of these guys, use all of the picks, and go get one of the guys, go get one of the guys that went in the top 10. I gave this draft a D. And the only thing that saves it from being an F, in my opinion, is the fact that I do like Ty Simpson.
Starting point is 01:47:42 Right. And that's the hard part of this. I think that Ty Simpson is a good quarterback. I have said this throughout the entire process. I think that he can win games in this league. I think it's a good scenario for him to go sit behind Matthew Stafford and get to work with Sean McVeigh. Obviously, I think any young quarterback would love that,
Starting point is 01:47:58 not just, you know, independent of Ty Simpson. But the problem is that you're in a Super Bowl window. Yep. You're going for a Super Bowl. None of these players are playing for you. And if they are, it's not nearly as meaningful as you wish that it could have been. 13th overall, you could have had Ruben Bain. You could have had Ruben Bain Jr.
Starting point is 01:48:20 It's pretty wild to think about. On that defensive line wreaking havoc as you are trying to go win a Super Bowl. And you picked a player who, best case scenario, zero snaps this. year. And who knows? Maybe Matthew Stafford's back is all good to go. Maybe they're going to win Super Bowl next year. Maybe they're not. But maybe he's coming back the year after. Now we're halfway through Ty Simpson's rookie contract. I saw somebody and I'm not, I'm not going after, I'm not going after Jeremy Fowler for this because I think Jeremy Fowler does a great job reporting on the NFL. Jeremy's awesome. But he wrote in his article about the Los Angeles Rams and after
Starting point is 01:48:57 they had selected Ty Simpson, there was a quote from somebody at the end of the article that said, If Ty Simpson never plays a snap for you, his rookie deal, his rookie deal, he didn't even say rookie year, his rookie deal, that's deemed as a success. No, it's not. No, it's not. That's not how the draft works. How do we get there? That's not, that is not how any of this works.
Starting point is 01:49:20 It's like saying the sky is red. That is a, that is a complete failure of an understanding of where your quarterback's timeline is, if that happens. Complete failure. So look, it's kind of the same conversation that we have with Jacksonville. I hate the draft. I love the coach. Oh, right.
Starting point is 01:49:40 Yeah. Sean McVeigh can turn chicken shit into a Michelin star three, or three star Michigan salad plate. Right. Essentially, yes, yes. I'll stand up and clap and Sean McVeigh did the Habachi act. So there's a world where all of this works out. But I just, I could not dislike the thought process here of this draft anymore.
Starting point is 01:50:08 I just hate the fact that they said, hey, we're going to be unbelievably aggressive. We're going to trade 29. We're going to get Trent McDuffie. We're all in. And then we're going to pick a player at number 13 that plays zero snaps for us this year. I don't love it. I don't love the split strategy. What would you set?
Starting point is 01:50:26 Say you knew you're getting a full season of Stafford. What would you set the total snaps played in 2006 for this draft class at? Well, Claire's going to play more, but like here's the thing. I don't even think that Trost is a scheme fit for this team. Trost to me is much more of a lighter zone blocking offensive linemen. And McVeigh, now maybe there's a world where McVeigh was kind of on the cutting edge
Starting point is 01:50:56 of going from the mid and outside zone rush game to be one of the first teams to go back. to power between the middle. Perhaps there's a world where he goes, no, no, no, okay, now we're, now we're going back. And maybe in two years, Kegan Troste ends up being the ideal offensive linemen for them. So maybe that's the case as well, because a lot of this draft was about seeing the future.
Starting point is 01:51:15 But you draft Max Claire, Colby Parkinson, and Davis Allen are free agents next offseason, but you still have Terrence Ferguson and Tyler Higbee. So Max Clare, in a five-man tight-end rotation this year, and then he will enter into a three-man tight-end rotation the following year.
Starting point is 01:51:38 I love Max Claire. I just, outside of injuries, I don't really see the impact from this class at all from the Rams. Peter said 16-man personnel. Yeah, I mean, that's, maybe that's what McVeigh sees. Maybe McVeigh is on the cutting edge in that regard. Everyone's a tight end. Okay.
Starting point is 01:52:02 Next team? Yes. Miami Dolphins. Miami Dolph. Holy volume. 13 player class. Nothing screams we hate our roster. Okay.
Starting point is 01:52:16 So number 12 overall is Kaden Proctor. Number 27, Chris Johnson, which I identified as one of my favorite fits here. And I'll get to that more in a second. Jacob Rodriguez in the second round. Third round, we had three picks. They were third round maxing here. Caleb Douglas, the wide receiver out of Texas Tech. Will Casmeric, the tight end from Ohio State.
Starting point is 01:52:33 Chris Bell, the White is here from Louis. Fourth round, we had two picks. Trey Moore, the linebacker from Texas. And then Kyle Lewis, another badge for me, one of my favorite day three difference makers here. Michael Taff, Kevin Coleman, Cidu Treore, the tight end from Mississippi State. And then the sixth round, it was DJ Campbell,
Starting point is 01:52:52 bring it home with a little Max Luellen, the edge ratio from Iowa. Connor, what we think? I mean, man. Oh, wait a second. Hold on, hold on, hold on. UDFA signs. They stay busy.
Starting point is 01:53:01 They got my guy, Renee Conga. They got your guy, Renee Conga. They signed Mason Rieger. They signed Mid-Lavion Moss. They got Lewis Moore. They want a whole new team. Dude, Jeff Hathley's the man. This rules.
Starting point is 01:53:16 Jeff Hathley is like one of those. I can't think of a good example right now. But Jeff Hathley is like one of those like coaches or bosses or something who's like new, who like walks in and he's disciplinary. And he's basically like, you guys are all morons. and he basically just cleans the entire staff, and it's all brand new, and it's the people who weren't starters before,
Starting point is 01:53:38 and now this, it's kind of like Coach Carter, right? It's kind of how Coach Carter starts, right? He walks in, he's like, oh, this is how we're going to do things. The starters leave the gym, and then I can't remember which character he's like. He's like, dude, those are our two leading scores from last year, and Coach Carr just looks at him, he goes, guess we're going to have two new leading scores this year, aren't we?
Starting point is 01:53:53 That's essentially what it felt like. That's essentially what Jeff Haffley is doing here. Yes. All right, so the dolphins. So many new points. players and a bit of a roller coaster draft. I gave it a B because there's definitely some where it's like you look at Proctor's a big swing where Chris Johnson's more of a floor pick.
Starting point is 01:54:15 I like Jacob Rodriguez a lot for the middle of their defense. I like Chris Bell pick and Kevin Coleman Jr. So much better than Caleb Douglas, who was the first receiver they took. So that was a little weird. I felt like they could have gotten a much better player with the 75th overall pick in the draft. I'm curious the plan for Trey Moore because I actually thought he'd play a little better in space at the next level than on the edge.
Starting point is 01:54:39 They got Kyle Lewis to do that. I love the Kyle Lewis pick. So they've totally revamped their linebacker room. They've totally revamped their wide receiver room. Max Llewellyn could be a DPR. You take a chance on a DPR at 238. At Wilc, I really like as a wide tight end, like a on the line of scrimmage blocking tight end.
Starting point is 01:55:00 So overall, Miami did good here. I mean, they just, they needed all these picks because they need to get players that fit what they want to be. And they're so far away from that in this rebuild. So I'm a fan of the volume approach. I don't know if they got any superstars here, but they got starters. I really like this draft. There are some, there are some eyebrow raising picks, but the volume and just the turnaround of this roster, I gave this an A minus here. I think they had some big names for a much needed class.
Starting point is 01:55:31 I think that Caden Proctor is not going to play tackle for them. He's going to play guard, which is exactly where I want him to play. Chris Johnson, to me, is an excellent scheme fit for what Jeff Happily does. This is a zone coverage type of defense, and that's perfect for what Chris Johnson does really well. So they needed corners and secondary players badly, and I think Chris Johnson's one of the best fits that they could have possibly had there. Jacob Rodriguez, I think the same. Man, you put him next to a tackling machine like Jordan Brooks. That's exactly what you want.
Starting point is 01:55:58 You want to have Jordan Brooks be the guy that's super reliable going downhill and reading the run. And then Jacob Rodriguez can operate really well in space and you're just letting him use his instincts very, very well. Caleb Douglas pick at 75. I mean, this is a minus 164 in the value category for me of where I had him on the big board. It was minus 229 for you. There are some people in the chat. And I'm not trying to take away from you guys being positive about it, but they're like, hey, you know, he ran a 4-3. He's the field stretcher.
Starting point is 01:56:26 I mean, Chris Brasel and Ted Hurst got picked after him. A different body type, but Zach Branch got picked after him. Chris Bell, funny enough, got picked after him. On the Dolphins. But like Brennan Thompson got picked after him. They're just, Bryce Lance got picked way after him. There are just too many guys that I would have liked much, much better in that role even. Will Casmaric, though, I like that pick a lot.
Starting point is 01:56:53 Chris Bell, it's a great pick to make there at, Number 94. Again, I didn't love Chris Bell in the top 50, but at 94, I'm all in. Kyle Lewis, I think, is the absolute stud for you. Such a potential difference maker as a unique nickel defender. Love him in Jeff Hapley's defense specifically. I figured they're going to utilize what Kyle Lewis does best as a smaller linebacker. Sometimes, you know, you can say he's built like a safety, but a guy who could play all around. And I even like DJ Campbell as a depth guard for them to play a little bit more powerful. And Max Llewellyn, getting Mason Rieger as well. I like this, man, a minus pick from me.
Starting point is 01:57:26 a much needed draft of massive turnover here for the Miami Dolphins. All right, Minnesota Vikings. Minnesota Vikings. The Brian Flores draft. Yes. Caleb Banks and number 18 overall did not see that one coming. Jake Golda, which I gave one of my favorite fits badge to because you talked about Brian Flores. I think that Jake Golda is an excellent fit for all of the versatility that Brian Flores has with his linebackers.
Starting point is 01:57:50 Big Citrus fan favorite going to the third round here. Caleb Tiernan and Jacoby Thomas going in the third round. as well. Two fifth rounders in Max Bredison and Charles Nemings. They got Tomeone Claybourne in the sixth round, which, God, so lucky. So lucky to get Claiborne that late in the draft. And then Gavin Gerhardt, the center from Cincinnati there at 235. What we think, Connor?
Starting point is 01:58:12 Very defense-focused draft from Minnesota. You take the grand slam cut on Caleb Banks because if he's healthy, he's going to eat under Brian Flores, but he's obviously got to have the foot injuries behind him. Gold Day, I'm excited. to hear you talk about we know the unique roles he could play. I love doubling down on defensive tackle because if Banks is dealing with some injuries as a rookie, Big Citrus, step on up, my guy. Caleb Tiernan, he's played a lot of football and I think he's going to transition okay
Starting point is 01:58:40 to guard. I really, really do. Another technician, we talked about that with KH Casey. That's Caleb Tiernan. DeMone Claybourne, you said it, Trevor. Talk about a great change of pace player for this offense. I give this a B-minus. factoring in the risk of banks, but of course if they hit on the risk of banks, this is such an
Starting point is 01:58:59 amazing draft because him under Brian Flores would be absolute cinema. Yeah, I gave this a C plus. I would have liked for them to address Center a little bit earlier. They had an opportunity to draft like Sam Hector, Connor Liu instead of where they picked Jacobi Thomas, and I would have much rather them do that. DeMone Claiborne, this might be harsh, but like I almost don't even want to give them credit for drafting de Montclaver. I mean, you waited to 189. I guess we'll take him.
Starting point is 01:59:27 You picked a fullback 40 spots 40 spots ahead of him. The Bredison pick alone knocked off the added the minus. I just, it's funny. I mean, I don't mind the collection of players. I just
Starting point is 01:59:43 think that they went about this sort of a strange way. I mean, Caleb Tiernan, I think he's an interior offensive lineman for them, which is fine. I wonder where they're at with Will Fries, you know, after making that selection there at number 97 and again, like not opting for a center or anything. Did you have to pick Caleb Banks at 18?
Starting point is 02:00:02 Maybe you did. I guess you did. Caleb Banks top 20 with two foot injuries, man. Yeah, it shocked me. It shocked me. Right, right. But I do like the, go ahead. Think, don't know, but think like the Panthers, they were a Sadiq team.
Starting point is 02:00:20 That was one thing I heard after the draft. I don't think a lot of teams expected the gym. to take Sadiq. Oh, sure, sure. But I'm saying, like, who would have taken banks, you think? I don't know, but it was a clear pivot, in my opinion. I don't know if he was the surefire. Oh, you're saying, you're saying that Sadiq would have been a Vikings target.
Starting point is 02:00:41 I think so. Okay, interesting. All right. Jake, Goulde, I actually do like in this game, though. He's a bigger, longer linebacker who could play in the middle, but he could also do a lot of stuff in the slot and in space. so I am excited for him to get to work with Brian Flores. It was a little bit of a strange,
Starting point is 02:00:57 it was just a little bit of a strange draft for me. They passed up on Dylan Thineman to draft Caleb Banks as well, which I had Thinemann as a top 10 player. That's a good call out. Yeah, that definitely affects the grade as well, but who they didn't take at 18. Yeah. And I see that,
Starting point is 02:01:13 I see a lot of people talking about like what banks could be for them. If Banks is fully healthy, it's going to be awesome for them. If Banks play is long term for them, right? with the foot injuries. So anyway, that's why I was kind of like, did you need to take him there? Could you have traded down knowing that both him and Thiemann were on the board? And you would have been good with either.
Starting point is 02:01:30 So I just, I gave this one a C plus. New England Patriots. Oh, yeah. The Patriots, Caleb Lomu in the back end of the first round, Gabe Accus right after that, Eli Rairden in the third round. Fifth round, Karen Pruny, the defensive back from Wake Forest,
Starting point is 02:01:51 Demetrius Crown over, the offense attack from Texas A&M in the sixth round. Namby, Obiasor, I think is how you say he's name. Yeah, Obi-I-Zor. Obi-I-Zor, right? Linebacker from TCU. Barrett Morden, the quarterback from Texas Tech, Chan Miller, and then Cotavius Hutchins.
Starting point is 02:02:08 What we think. This is a B for me, because of how much confidence I have in Ackis and Raritan being starters at their positions. I'm a huge Eli Raritan guy, especially with Josh McDaniels that just always has the answer for tight ends. If Josh McDaniels drafts you at tight end, he probably has the right plan for you. Prouti was maybe the earliest guy taking, Trev, that we didn't watch. Yeah. I think. Yeah, I did not watch
Starting point is 02:02:37 him, so I don't have a strong take. I'm a big obizer guy. Converted safety, athletic in space, really impressive in coverage, I think, for a linebacker, subpackaged linebacker and special team's player, but I really liked where they got him. Hutchins, yeah, that makes a lot of sense in that spot. This draft will obviously be judged on what Caleb Lomo becomes because he is so raw, but it's all there for him to be a starting tackle with his movement in his lower half and pass bro, but he's just not going to give you anything in the run game right now, in my opinion. So that's what this draft will be judged on, but I really liked their day too.
Starting point is 02:03:17 Yeah, I gave this a, I gave this a B minus, but honestly, like I'd not get up to a B now that I'm kind of sitting here looking at it I think that Lomu can be a really nice long-term option for them. Gabe Accus I think is a perfect scheme fit for them. So I like them getting him in the second round at number 55. Rarden's a really nice tight end two for them to allow them to stay heavier personnel after losing Austin Hooper. You getting crown over in the sixth round.
Starting point is 02:03:42 I think that that's pretty good value. Obi-IZor, I think is good value as well, the other linebacker from TCU. And then I like Quintavius Hutch. I know I didn't get to his full profile, so I didn't have him on the big board, but I watched him in person at the senior bowl. And I saw the flashes of like, hey, when you allow him to just be a speed rusher for you, there is some value there. He's got a great first step, but he does not know what to do after that.
Starting point is 02:04:07 But you can really, I think, work with a player like that. So to get him at 247, I think, was pretty nice. So the Baram-Morton picks, the Jam Miller picks, they're not really doing anything for me. The prudney picks, I didn't watch him. But I think this is a solid B for them, especially of Lomu eventually, you know, as they hope, becomes a starter for them at some point. All right, rock solid for New England.
Starting point is 02:04:30 New Orleans, the New Orleans Saints. Your boy, Jordan Tyson? Oh, yeah. Number eight overall. My boy, Christian Miller. 42 overall. Second round. Oscar Delp in the third.
Starting point is 02:04:41 Jeremiah Wright in the fourth. Bryce Lance in the fourth. Lorenzo Stiles Jr. in the fifth. Barry and Brown, the wide receiver from LSU in the sixth, and then T.J. Hall, the corner from Iowa in the seventh notable UDFA signing. Michael Helmint, the edge director from Central Michigan. I like that one.
Starting point is 02:04:58 What we think, Connor? I gave this a B plus. I was a fan of this draft, notably because they got one of my favorite players in the entire draft in Jordan Tyson, and they got one of my other favorite players in this draft in Kristen Miller. That alone with those combined was plus 21 value with their first two picks. So to get what I think is the number one wide receiver and then to get a stack and shed starting defensive tackle in a unit that needed to help.
Starting point is 02:05:22 That put them in a great spot out of the gate. Delp, who went a little earlier than where I had him, I just feel like New Orleans will get more out of him than what Georgia did. Bryce Lance as a field stretcher, T.J. Hall is a developmental off-coverage corner who's such a great run defender for a corner. It makes me wonder if he has a little bit more versatility besides special teams and depth corner. This is a B-plus for me with the Saints. I think they did a really, really good job getting impact starters. I loved this draft.
Starting point is 02:05:53 This is an A for me. I am giving the New Orleans Saints an A. I think that Jordan Tyson and Bryce Lance are fantastic additions to a wide receiver room that not only needed the double dip, you're getting an excellent intermediate wide receiver in Jordan Tyson and a great vertical wide receiver in Bryce Lance. That allows you to truly use Chris Olave however you want to. too, and I think that this really helps maximize a big arm that Tyler Shuck has.
Starting point is 02:06:22 So love that. Christian Miller, in my opinion, is one of the best run stuffers immediately on the interior defensive line for the New Orleans Saints. Oscar Delp I think is a really nice sort of, like we've talked about him, Swiss Army knife type of a wingback, inline fullback, maybe slot receiver or slot blocker, I should say, sometimes even uses a fullback too. I think Jeremiah Wright can actually push Cesar Ruiz for a starting spot on that interior offensive line. And then T.J. Hall, you mentioned him at 219. I really like T.J. Hall's film.
Starting point is 02:06:52 He's just not very fast. You can't put him in press man coverage situations, but he's one of the best run defending corners in the draft. And in this specific scheme, the Saints with Brandon Staley, they were top 10 in the NFL at how often they ran zone, because that's what Brandon Staley does. So he's a perfect scheme fit as well. I think when you look at this class as a whole, the fits. Individually, individually, you can look at each place. and say like, yeah, okay, like the value was a little bit good, a little bit bad here compared to where I had them on my big board. But I look at all these names collectively and then for New Orleans specifically.
Starting point is 02:07:25 And I think they're going to get high impact out of a lot of these players. So this was an A draft to me. New York Giants. Next up. The New York Giants. When Arvel Reese at number five, Frances Maui Noah, then at number 10, most notably not picking Caleb Downs in either selection. Your boy, Colton Hood, in the second round.
Starting point is 02:07:47 Kyle Fields going in the third round, which I feel like was a really, really good fit for this team. Wait, why was at a full circle moment? Because Malachi Fields was like the ideal third rounder all year and then he appeared in the first round of mock drafts. Oh, right, right, right. And then he was forgotten about and then he ends up back in the third round. Yeah. Bobby James and Travis, a defensive tackle from Auburn in the sixth round, J.C. Davis in the sixth round.
Starting point is 02:08:10 And then Jack Kelly, the linebacker out of BYU in the sixth round as well. I love to this draft. Arvel Reese was my top-ranked off-ball linebacker over Sunny Stiles. That's where he's going to get to play with the Giants early on. Maui Noah was my 10th overall player. They took him 10th. I think he could play right guard as a rookie and right tackle long term. You got to help out Jackson Dart.
Starting point is 02:08:31 Colton Hood, Pressman Corner, smart, physical, tough, fast. No-brainer at 37. Wish they didn't get jumped for Caden McDonald. I'm assuming that's what happened there. This would have been a monster grade if that didn't happen. but I still love Colton Hood. Malachi Fields gives you a big bodied wide receiver that could block and can play above the rim. Bobby James and Travis, I didn't value him at 186, but he does help your run defense if he can get on the field.
Starting point is 02:08:57 J.C. Davis has been a four-year starter at left tackle that could probably play guard for you. Another kind of mauler in the run game. And Jack Kelly, a special teamer, maybe even sub-packaged blitzer at times. I gave the Giants an A-Minas. I thought this was a Harbaugh draft true and through that really fits the mold and feel of what he wants his football team to be. Yeah, on draft night, when Arvill Reese got taken, I was like, man, where does he play?
Starting point is 02:09:23 You know, where is he going to play on this team? Because we were just told for the last two months after the combine that he was an edge rusher. It's like, okay, well, you have Abdul Carter who plays on the edge. You have Brian Burns who plays on the edge. You have Kvon Tivado who plays on the edge. And now you have Arville Reese. Like, sure, waves of pass rush is just great,
Starting point is 02:09:38 but at number five over Caleb Downs. And then it was like, no, okay, we see him as more of somebody who's getting me an offball linebacker. All right, so he's going to be the more hunt and chase linebacker. And, you know, Michael McFadden or Tremaine Edmins, like those guys are going to be more of the Mike linebackers. And I can see that fit. And, of course, there's a chance to Kavon-Tibado could get moved on this team as well. But all of that to say, I gave this a B-plus because I like the hall of players that they had.
Starting point is 02:10:03 I just would have done things a little differently. If you're drafted in Arvill-R-R-Vice to be an off-ball linebacker, I'd have preferred Sony Stiles there at that point. Okay. Colton Hood was overdrafted to me. I know you like Colton Hood more than I did, but I would have rather had, Denzel Boston was drafted after 37. So I would have rather had
Starting point is 02:10:23 Denzel, like drafting Denzel Boston at 37 because I had him as a better player. And then at 74, you know, you could have drafted a guy like, you know, Julian Neal or Devin Moore, obviously Jermal McCoy, but I feel like that's kind of like cheating to say that just because he slipped so far. But I just, I would have gone through things a little bit differently.
Starting point is 02:10:42 I liked the Giants draft, I just again, would have, I would have done things a little bit differently, but I don't think that it makes it like a bad draft in any way, shape, or form. I think they certainly got better. But yeah, I would have taken styles. I would have taken downs at number five over Arville Reese. And there's just a couple of things that I would have done differently. That brings us to the New York Jets. Yes.
Starting point is 02:11:05 David Bailey, number two overall. So the decision between Arville Reese and David Bailey ended up being David Bailey. you've hinted a little bit at Kenyon Sadiq, sort of being a surprise there at number 16. They then trade back up to go get Omar Cooper Jr. DeAngelo Pons in the second round, Darrell Jackson Jr. in the fourth, Kay Klubnick in the fourth,
Starting point is 02:11:22 on his Cooper, the guard from Miami, and then Vijay Payne at 228, big value for where we have them on the board. Yeah, I always find myself to be a little bit more harsh on the Jets, naturally, but they did really, really well here. I think that, as you see all the badges from, both of us. You get David Bailey at two as a pure pass rusher for a team that just created no chaos last year at all. It's why they literally didn't have an interception. It's going to take
Starting point is 02:11:51 the right plan for Kenyon Sadeek, so hopefully Frank Reich has that. But he is such a dynamic athlete and a better blocker than he gets credit for. You needed a number two receiver. I think Omar Cooper could be that. DeAngelo Pons with Aaron Glenn is why I gave that one a badge because it's come on, man. Yes, yes. It's perfect. It's perfect. And they're going to have Pons play inside and outside, but probably more.
Starting point is 02:12:16 It's just, that's, that's what it is. Daryl Jackson Jr. He runs so hot and cold. His high end plays are jaw dropping at times, but he just, he's got to get his pad level down. The good thing for him at round four for the Jets is he's just a developmental player because they have Harrison Phillips, Juan Briggs, David O'Niamada, and Devandre sweat.
Starting point is 02:12:39 So he's going to get to learn from some bigger defensive tackles. And we'll see if he thrives in that environment. I hated the move up for Cade Clubnick. Hated it. I just, if you want to take Cade Clubnik, be my guest, I guess. I was lower on him. I projected him as a long-term backup as more of a sixth-round kind of player. Which I like at 110.
Starting point is 02:13:01 I'd have been cool. I'm cool with that at 110. It's the move. Maybe they didn't feel like they could wait, though. You know, I talked about that a little bit on the bleachers stream when we saw it happen. Usually no, you know, in those scenarios. And as Cooper, scheme fit, gap scheme, run blocker, backup guard. Vijay Payne, man, the Jets are not very good at safety besides Mick and Fitzpatrick.
Starting point is 02:13:25 I don't know how Vijay Payne falls to the seventh round. Is there something we don't know? He's big. He's athletic. He plays like a maniac. He can match up against tight ends in man coverage. He's not a good safety from zone awareness and all of that. but he's a matchup player.
Starting point is 02:13:39 And you draft him in the seventh round to be more of a matchup player. I hate this because it comes off as bias, but I gave the jets an A-minus. All right. Well, they built an infrastructure for the quarterback
Starting point is 02:13:49 they're going to draft in 2027. Yeah, I'll save you from bias. I gave it an A-minus. I think this is a really good draft. I would have taken a different player over David Bailey, right?
Starting point is 02:13:58 I mean, like, I would have taken Ruben Bain. I would have taken Arvill Reese. We've talked about that plenty pre-draft. And so that goes into it. But they chose David Bailey. They ended up drafted Sadiq at 16 and you go like, whoa, okay, but then Omar Cooper at 30 and you say, all right,
Starting point is 02:14:12 well, if you flip those, I'm actually fine with it. I think Pons is a perfect fit. I love this landing spot for VJ. Payne. Somebody in the chat was asking what the little badges stand for. The yellow ones are some of our favorite fits. And then the blue ones are the day three difference makers that we're identifying here. We're not doing that for every team, but it's just double Trevor badges. I know.
Starting point is 02:14:33 No, I think the Omar Cooper Jr. selection for them is great. I love him getting to work with Garrett Wilson specifically. I think that's a really good inside out combo from both of those guys, especially now that you're throwing in Kenyon Sneak into the mix as a slot type of receiver
Starting point is 02:14:49 as well. So I really like that trio there. And then Payne I think is like I was saying, a really nice scheme fit. If you are playing him as an outside corner. Come on. Come on, Jets. See the vision. Put him on the outside. Let him play
Starting point is 02:15:05 press coverage. Let his athleticism be what he leans on the most of the NFL, and I think he'll be a good player. Daryl Jackson Jr. is going to be a good rotational guy for them. And I actually like Kate Klubbick now that he's on the team. I agree. Like trading up, it's like, all right, well, I don't love that. But because they traded up how many spots to get him quite a bit. Yeah, it was a decent trade up. They burned a fourth rounder to go get him. They probably just viewed him as the best backup quarterback in this draft, which you know what? would agree with. And they wanted to make sure that they went to secure.
Starting point is 02:15:39 It wasn't a great field of players to deal with. Exactly. Exactly. So yeah, A minuses for the Jets. The Philadelphia Eagles, they went with Mackay Lemon. Sorry, they sniped Mackay Lemon from the Pittsburgh Steelers. It's probably the more accurate way to say that.
Starting point is 02:15:55 Eli Stowers in the second, Markel Bell in the third, and then they waited a little bit. Cole Payton in the fifth, Michael Morris in the sixth, Cole Wisniewski in the seventh. Uar Bernard, the defensive tackle. from Nigeria in the seventh and then Kishon James Newby, the edge rusher from New Mexico,
Starting point is 02:16:10 there in the seventh as well. Notable undrafted free agent signings for the Philadelphia Eagles, Dayquan Wright, the tight end out of Ole Miss. Yeah, I love that signing. I was obviously very high on Dayquan Wright, which does the UDFAs don't factor in my grade, but they definitely make a draft class look a lot better if the player makes the team. So Lemon, right kind of where I expected him to come off the board, definitely helps them revamp their pass catcher group for life. after AJ Brown. Same with Stowers, although I do have a question of stowers.
Starting point is 02:16:41 You know, he's not really going to give you much as a blocker, but he's such a unique athlete that maybe in this infrastructure, it's going to work out as a pure pass catching tight end. I love the Markell Bell pick here because they just know how to utilize the colossal tackles and hopefully develop him as a starter for the future.
Starting point is 02:16:59 I normally don't like supersized offensive tackles, but I'm actually intrigued by him. I'm actually intrigued by him. I don't mind it. You know, I didn't think they got tremendous value. Honestly, I didn't put O'R. Bernard on the board because he's just a total projection as a newcomer to football. Kishon James Newby, I thought in the Michigan game he did show up,
Starting point is 02:17:25 but, you know, I thought he'd be more of a UDFA kind of player. And it's picked 252. So you're essentially just drafting what you think you'd want to sign as a UDFA. This was okay for the Eagles. I gave it a B-minus. I think I'm so skewed by Howie-dominating drafts that this like shoulder shrug draft was like, okay, it's a B-minus. Would you take the week off, Howie?
Starting point is 02:17:47 Yeah, it was just, he just set the bar so high, and I thought this was a very ho-hum kind of draft. You know, I ended up giving it a B-plus, and the reason why I gave it a B-plus is because, one, I think the intel work was chef's kiss on knowing exactly where Mackay Lemon was going to go and trading up one spot in front of them.
Starting point is 02:18:10 That I think was absolutely beautiful work from Howie Roseman, who was really, really good at this draft game. I like the Colbushnewski pick as well. Michael Morris, I think, is a fit with their offensive line. Cole Payton, I think is a really nice depth quarterback option to get.
Starting point is 02:18:24 Bernard, I think that Philly has, you know, taken a chance on some of these bigger athletic guys, whether it's on the offensive or defensive lines. And so I like that. I like that landing spot for him at least. This, how this draft class is going to be remembered leans on the shoulders of one man.
Starting point is 02:18:43 And that's Jalen Hertz. Because I love Mackay Lemon, and I like Eli Stowers. The thing is, those players are middle of the field type of receivers. Jalen Hertz doesn't throw middle of the field. He did a little bit more in 2025. he certainly didn't do it in 2024 when that eagle's offense was actually clicking on all cylinders.
Starting point is 02:19:06 We all assume that A.J. Brown's no longer going to be on this team. So that means that it's Devante Smith who's going to be a field stretcher for them. But then it's going to be Mackay Lemon and Eli Stowers and Grant Calcutera and Dallas Goddard, who are going to do a lot of work over the middle of the field. And Hertz has been reluctant to be that type of a quarterback to this point in his career. if he leans into it and he's good at it, I think both of those picks are going to be excellent for the Eagles. If he is bad at it, boy do I think this offense is really going to struggle.
Starting point is 02:19:39 So I gave this a B plus because I like the players that they drafted, but how this draft will be remembered and how good it will look depends on if Jalen Hertz can adjust how he plays the game versus what we've seen from him over the last two years. And I'll say, because I know the chat's talking about it, I just would be standard across the board. factor in veteran player traits for any draft class because they can get messy if you do for some and don't for some. I love the Jonathan Grenard trade. That was the best thing they did throughout this draft. Right. Yes. So that's not in the grade because I just want to evaluate the players
Starting point is 02:20:13 and move on from there, but they did such a good job getting him, extending him for a very, very low cost. The Pittsburgh Steelers, the next draft that we have here, locked in to Maxianature. I kind of have to say because they were going to. They were going to be. They were going to draft mackay lemon but i actually funny enough i kind of like how things ended up for them more than if they would have drafted mackay lemon maxi onature at number 21 jeremy bernard
Starting point is 02:20:41 in the second round at 47 drew alor in the third dailan ever in the third jennings dunker in the third cadan weijit in the fourth riley nookowski in the fifth uh gabriel rubio in the six robert spears jennings in the seventh and and then eli heidenreich uh with their final pick at number two thirty conner how we feel i feel i feel like Steelers fans didn't even really like this.
Starting point is 02:21:03 Like this draft less than me. I gave this a rock solid B. Okay. Because Ionichur is a little green. He's going to need some development with the penalties and the inconsistencies in the run game, but he is so athletic to develop a tackle. Jeremy Bernard, I loved in this draft. I obviously had him ranked a little higher than some and think he's going to be great
Starting point is 02:21:23 in the slot for them. I don't think it's ever going to happen for Drew Aller. I'll just say that. And, you know, somebody with his tools being drafted. drafted all the way at pick 76 tells you that the league was even kind of like he's got all the tools but it's been a not great ride so far so i didn't like the aller pick every i just he just falls out of phase way too often as a cover corner as much as he's got tools and he's big so i didn't really like the aller or ever pick dunker think he's going to be a solid NFL guard weijen's a
Starting point is 02:21:52 returner and they took him in the fourth round we were joking during the broadcast that apparently he was golfing when he got called the picks i don't even think he thought he'd get picked there nookowski is one of guys in this draft that I just love. He does everything as a utility player. He could block as a fullback. He could play tight end. And then, you know, the last two picks at the end were real value for me. They were real players.
Starting point is 02:22:10 Like, Hydenwright, maybe he's your Kenny Gainwell now. Robert Spears Jennings, fast, physical safety. So I just thought they got volume across the board and maybe no stars here, but Steelers don't really need stars right now. They need players on this roster. I give this just a rock solid B. And we should, I see it in this. the chat. Wigian is a deadly returner. There's no denying that. It's just, man,
Starting point is 02:22:34 round four, I was a little surprised. I think he was even surprised. Yeah, wouldn't he, he was golfing. That's he was golfing. Yeah, he was golfing. He didn't think he was getting drafted that high. I get it to be minus. Um, and maybe we're just, I don't know, Steelers fans hated a lot more than we do clearly. I think they, I think they lucked into the Maxionature, Jeremy Bernard, one, two combo there, but it feels that way. But they still drafted it. And I think Maxianature is their starting offensive tackle. long term. Like I think it's him and Faltonu on each side of the offensive line. I think Dunker can develop into a starting guard for them. He's not a tackle at all. He's a guard.
Starting point is 02:23:09 You got to work on his footwork a little bit. But I've talked about how I like Jennings Dunker a lot as a guard. And I think if you get a good offensive line coach, you're going to feel good about the development of him on the interior. I didn't love Dailen Everett. I didn't love Drew Aller. So those are kind of knocks for me. I think Caden Weigit was definitely over drafted. But he's a great special teams guy. There's no question about it. But your special teams, I think you could have gotten Caden Weigit very easily in the fifth round, and they drafted him at least a full round early. I think Robert Spears Jenning is a good depth seventh round player.
Starting point is 02:23:40 I think Riley Nookowski gives you some versatility and the personnel that you want to have there with Mike McCarthy now as the head coach and the office coordinator there. And Eli Hayden, Reich, you've got to replace a lot of the catches that Kenneth Gainwell had last year. Now, hopefully not as many because I don't want the Pittsburgh Steelers to lean into the running back passing game as much as they did last year. but I think this is a solid draft. Again, there's some parts of it that I didn't love,
Starting point is 02:24:04 but I think a B-minus is totally fair here for the Pittsburgh Steelers. San Francisco 49ers. Yeah, the 49ers. So they drafted my boy Deshaun Stribbling at 33. You thought you loved him. I did think I loved them. And I had him like 55 or 57 or something. Romello height at 70.
Starting point is 02:24:29 Caleb Black. The running back? At 90. Grayson Halton, Carver Willis in the fourth round. Ephesians Priceock in the fourth round as well. Jaden Dugger, the linebacker from Louisiana in the fifth round. And then Enrique Cruz, the junior out of, or the offensive tackle, excuse me, out of Kansas. Yeah, how we feel about this one, Connor?
Starting point is 02:24:52 Definitely a strange draft. Very, you know, Shanahan knows what he likes. the values are all over the place and mostly off. Romolo Haidt was a great scheme fit here as that wide nine kind of situational rusher. I agree. I liked Kalin Black a lot out of the non-combine guys. Now, clearly you didn't.
Starting point is 02:25:16 Clearly, I did not. He didn't like him enough. I was like, someone's going to take Kalin Black in the fifth round, and he's going to become part of a committee. Well, he was the 90th pick in the draft, and maybe he's the future after Christian McCaffrey. It's just when you don't factor into the past game at all,
Starting point is 02:25:31 it's hard to be a... Well, he factors into the past game in the fact that he is a past protector. Right. But I can't sign off on him being a worthwhile pick at 90 for being a past protector. I wasn't very high on Grayson Hallden, even though he fits their one gap penetrator,
Starting point is 02:25:49 kind of detackle mold. I mean, Carver Willis, I was lower on. Prysock, we both liked, a big experienced corner. from two programs. Stribling has size and speed. I gave it a C-minus because, to the Niners' credit, they do know what to do with their reach picks.
Starting point is 02:26:07 They do. And I like Prysock. I like Ramello Hyde for this defense. Stripling does give them a vertical threat. But my God, it's just, it's the off-the-rails nature of when they pick guys makes it hard to give them a good grade. it really, really does.
Starting point is 02:26:29 They are such a confusing team with how they operate and how they reach at spots, despite the fact that they're going to get, they're going to get some production out of this class, but they always leave you wanting more for how well coached they are. So I typo this one, so the grade that's going to show up from Tyler is a B minus.
Starting point is 02:26:46 It should be a C minus there from them because I was debating between a D plus and a C minus. I ended up going with a C minus, but this is such a, this is such a frustrating, draft because, Connor, I actually think that John Lynch did a really great job navigating this draft. Like, they traded back from Miami and they were able to jump up 48 spots in doing so with the pick that they got later in the draft.
Starting point is 02:27:11 Right. They also moved back from 58 to 70. So they moved back 12 spots and jumped up from 152 to 107 in the picks that they got back. They knew they were going to take an edge rusher. And there was no great edge rusher to choose from for them at 58. So they said, okay, we're going to move back to 70 and we know that we'll probably be able to get Romolo Hyde at 70.
Starting point is 02:27:31 So they navigated two different trades, excellently. And they got like great value out of moving down at certain spots. The problem was, I don't love what they did with it. I know. I like stripling a lot. And I think there's a world where he's a really good receiver for them, especially with Brandon Ayyuk out of there at some point.
Starting point is 02:27:53 I do think that Romello height is a really nice scheme. fit is a designated pass rush here. I thought, I thought Kalin Black was way overdrafted, and I think the 48 spots that they got, they kind of like threw that away, in my opinion. Halton is fine for where they picked him. Carver Willis, that's way early for Carver Willis, in my opinion,
Starting point is 02:28:12 but at least he's a scheme fit. Like, he's very clearly just a zone blocking offensive lineman, and I think he's maybe a center. So, like, I think there's a world where, like, maybe he's a starting center for them, you know, if he develops enough. but he's got to be able to handle power a little bit better. I like Ephesians Price Suck.
Starting point is 02:28:29 I thought that was a good value getting him there at 139. But it's just a very frustrating draft because I like how they navigated it. I just don't love the return that they got on a lot of how they navigated it. So, hey, another one where it's like, you just got to crush, trust his coaching staff. And I suppose that's what we got to do here for the San Francisco 49ers. The Seattle Seahawks. Defending champs. They went with Judarian Price there at 32.
Starting point is 02:29:00 Bud Clark at 64, Julian Neal at 99. Bo Stevens in the fifth. Emmanuel Henderson, the special teams demon at 199 in the sixth round, then three seventh round picks. Andre Fuller, the corner from Toledo, Devin Eastern, the defensive tackle from Minnesota, and then Michael Dansby, the corner from Arizona. What do you got, Connor?
Starting point is 02:29:18 You know, I love Judarian Price, and I understand the whole running back round one, but this is a team that they're built on running the football. And I think he's going to be a really, really good pro, especially the way he glides in zone. I think he's got more of past game ability than he was able to show playing behind Jeremiah Love. He's a good pass protector. They needed a rangey free safety.
Starting point is 02:29:38 They get that in Bud Clark. They love their big athletic corners like Julian Neal. You make the aggressive move for both Stevens that was costly. They traded 2007 fourth round pick. I did factor that into the grade. I did not like their day three. I thought all they really got here. Emmanuel Henderson, I think, is going to be a really, really good gunner.
Starting point is 02:29:58 That was what I noticed on tape with him. But I just didn't think they got much at a day three where I ended up giving this a C plus. I like Price. Clark was a need. But I thought the trade was costly for Stevens. And it wasn't my favorite collection of later round players. Yeah, I think I told Tyler, I gave this one a B. But honestly, like, I would have rather given this one a C, honestly, just sort of like looking at the list.
Starting point is 02:30:20 Because Judarian Price, it's interesting, right? because price was, I was lower on price, but this is the ideal fit for him. I think he has to go to an outside zone scheme team. I wish they would have traded down, but maybe somebody takes Judarian Price to the next couple of picks.
Starting point is 02:30:41 So I'm just not so sure. I had him like in the 70s. You know, if I was doing a Seattle Seahawks board, I probably would have had him like in the 40s, but still I think 32 was a little bit of a reach there for running back, but they did need one. Bud Clark,
Starting point is 02:30:54 I think it's just a roller coaster type of a safety, but they did need that free safety type of a player. But they did draft him over AJ Halsey, I believe. So would have rather had Halsey in that regard. Julian Neal's a really nice scheme fit for them as an athlete with those longer arms. Bo Stevens, I think is a good scheme fit for them as well. I just think it was a draft that, like,
Starting point is 02:31:14 you found players that were scheme fits. I just felt like you were over-drafting a lot of them. So I didn't really know what to do with this draft. I ended up giving it a C. I think it's okay. But yeah, it's just, this is a really tough one. This is a really tough one for me to grade because I thought a lot of these players went earlier
Starting point is 02:31:33 than I thought they should have gone, but I don't hate the scheme in which they went to, so I do feel as though Seattle identified talent the correct way for what they needed. I think we saw it exactly the same. Okay, all right. The Tampa Bay Buccaneers. Oh, boy.
Starting point is 02:31:48 And I've been waiting, baby. Number 15 overall, they got Ruben Bain Jr. who, surprise, surprise, that's a badge for me. It's one of my favorite fits. Second round, they got Josiah Trotter, the linebacker from Missouri. Third round, Ted Hurst, the widest here from Georgia State. Keonté Scott in the fourth round. That was another badge for me here as a day three difference maker.
Starting point is 02:32:09 Demonte Kpart, the defensive tackle from Clemson, Billy Strout, the guard from Notre Dame, and then Bauer Sharp, the tight end from LSU. Connor, what did you have for the Buccaneers? The Buccaneers got one of my A's. The Riggler's final act. And boy, is it a masterpiece. Look at all that green. Ruben Bain at 15 is highway robbery.
Starting point is 02:32:33 Trotter. So many of the Jets at Homer. Yes, it's me. Bucks fan. That's amazing. Trotter has some limitations in space and coverage, but he's a really young prospect that is a real thumper downhill. Ted Hurst, I call him the small school George Pickens.
Starting point is 02:32:49 Kianti Scott, man, he's the most physical nickel you'll ever see in terms of defending the run. I like his click and close and off coverage as well. I was a fan of Demonte Capehart as a rotational run stuffing nose tackle with power. Billy Shrout might have been my
Starting point is 02:33:05 favorite pick based off value. If he did not get hurt, he would have been a top 100 selection. I agree. I think he's a starter at guard. Absolutely. So Jason Light just really leans into the oh, you guys are obsessed with taking your players, you don't care if it's 100 spots early.
Starting point is 02:33:21 I'm going to take all the guys that fell 30 spots too late. He just does that over and over again. And it sounds like a simplified way to draft, but you have to give him credit because he's one of the only guys doing it. This one's an A for me, as you would expect. Look, I would have taken C.J. Allen over Josiah Trotter in a vacuum. And even I think for this team, but Josiah Trotter is excellent as a downhill blitzing linebacker.
Starting point is 02:33:51 that is one of the things that he does best. And Todd Bowles asked his linebackers to attack the line of scrimmage a lot. So he's a good scheme fit for them. Ted Hurston, excellent scheme fit because Chris Godwin, Emeka, Buka, Jalen McMillan, all those guys are better as Z or slot receivers. They need somebody to play the X. I think you and I talked about this on the show before the draft. Who's playing X right now for the Tampa Bay Buccaneers?
Starting point is 02:34:15 They needed to think about an option there and they get a really good one with Ted Hurst. Ruben May Jr. is my number three overall player. in the class. I know for a fact that Tampa Bay wanted to trade down from number 15. They were looking at all sorts of trade options. They felt really great about it. And then all of a sudden, Ruben Bain Jr. was on the board. And they said, nope, forget all that other stuff. And they just turned in the card for Ruben Bain. I think he's an excellent fit for Todd Bulls as well. So these aren't just good players for me. These are excellent scheme fits too. Bane's going to be able to play defensive end in their odd front. He's going to be able to
Starting point is 02:34:48 play stand up outside linebacker. They'll kick him inside when they're in an even front. let him play as a three-technique defensive tackle or a five-technique defensive end when Clyde Gansy's on the field. I think there's a world where Billy Strath, if he stays healthy, he becomes a starting guard for this team. DeMonte K-part,'s a great rotational defensive tackle with good length. And Bauer Sharp's going to be a great special teams player and a valuable player to make the end of this roster as a tight end who likes to do the dirty work in the blocking game.
Starting point is 02:35:13 This is an A draft to me. No notes. I mean, again, I would have rather had C.J. Allen, maybe. Sure. But the value of the other players that they have outside of that selection more than make up for me initially giving this an A minus and now bumping it up to an A. I thought the Buccaneers did an incredible job here and their defense should look a lot better than what it did last year. Nobody could ever call him the Riggler again. He's just foreshadowing how the actual draft goes.
Starting point is 02:35:38 They're definitely going to call me the Riggler again. I appreciate you trying to fight back the fire there. The Tennessee Titans, we got two teams left. The Tennessee Titans, Carnell Tate at number four, Keldrick Falk, at 3. Anthony Hill Jr., then Fernando Carmona, the interior offensive lineman from Arkansas, Nick Singleton from Penn State, Jackie Marshall, the defensive tackle from Baylor. Pat Coogan, aka the Cougar, the Senate from Indiana, and then Jaron Kinnack, the tight end from Oklahoma. Ooh, we got a bunch of notable undrafted free agents here.
Starting point is 02:36:09 Amiel Wagner, your boy, Latrell Hutchinson, Bishop Fitzgerald, and then this is where Tyron Montgomery went. Hell yeah, love that for Tyron Montgomery. A good spot too is a vertical type of wide receiver. So Connor, what we think? So they have such a flashy free agency. And I just felt underwhelmed by this draft. It's not that it's a bad draft, right? Because when you look at the end product,
Starting point is 02:36:32 they will get starters from it. But it was just underwhelming with all this capital they had. I had Jordan Tyson as the number one wide receiver in the draft. So I can't sit here and look at you guys with a straight face and be like, yeah, Carnell Tate's a great picket for. carnell tate will be a fine wide receiver in the nfl and i understand they wanted the they felt like he has a better chance to be on the field than tyson i get all of that but part of the analysis game is sometimes you got to take a stand and have some takes so i just felt like it was a reach on
Starting point is 02:36:59 tate it was a reach on keldrick falk who i do not i do not like keldrick falk in robert salle's scheme i was actually pretty surprised by this i don't really like me they drafted michael williams last here, and this is the same player, essentially. He has more success with guys that get off the ball and win with speed. So, you know, and also you sign John Franklin Myers and traded for Germain Johnson to get more power. And then you take Falk this early. I just, I don't really love the fit. Anthony Hill Jr., this is a good place for him for a player that we had real questions on,
Starting point is 02:37:37 see ball, get ball, kind of linebacker and solid scheme. Singleton can handle third down duty because he could pass protect and catch the ball and he's explosive downhill. Jackie Marshall's pass rush tape in 2024 was so much better than 2025. Talked about Patty Couges, the Cougar. Just a backup center, super smart, super polished, limited length and athleticism. So I gave this to see because my take is Trevor. I thought the Titans should have done much more with their bountiful capital in this draft.
Starting point is 02:38:08 And I just kind of walk away like, okay. I ended up giving it a B minus. I go to B minus here for the Tennessee Titans in their grade. I think I agree with you. Tate, I don't love Tate at 4, but he was the perfect receiver that they need. He's a great fit with them.
Starting point is 02:38:28 There's no denying that. And that's the thing is like, yeah, was it a little early for me for Tate in a vacuum? Sure, but how much further were they going to be able to trade down and still get Tate? Probably not far from what we heard other teams. really, really liking Carnell Tate in this draft.
Starting point is 02:38:43 See, you stick at four and you pick the receiver who actually allows you to unlock the vertical passing game because you do not have a consistent vertical wide receiver right now. And Cam Ward really needs that. So I'm with you initially, but I couldn't be too hard on it. This is early for Keldrick Falk, even a 30, even a 31 for me. And I agree with you. I think that Sala should have been going after somebody who could be a little bit more of a pass rusher when it comes to winning when you only have four down linemen.
Starting point is 02:39:09 I wasn't the biggest fan of Anthony Hill Jr. But I agree with you. I think that this is the right spot for him with Sala. And this was kind of the last of the linebackers here with him getting picked at 60. Because after pick 60, because initially I was like, ah, that's too early for Anthony Hill, in my opinion. But if they really wanted to add a linebacker, the next linebacker that was picked was Jimmy Rolder at 118.
Starting point is 02:39:36 Yeah. So almost 60 picks later. than where he got picked at number 60. He's probably the least problematic pick for me. You see the minus two and he's a scheme thing. I have no questions about that pick. Fernando Carmona, it's a minus 103 from like where I had him on the big board. But like I do actually kind of like him for more of Brian Dable's power scheme.
Starting point is 02:39:57 And I think the same thing with Pat Coogan as well. So these are at least two decent scheme fits there. The Nick Singleton pick to me is just a flyer. It just doesn't. It doesn't move me. I like the Jaron Kinnack pick in the seventh round. I think there's some plus value to be had there. But I ended up going with a B minus here for the Tennessee Titans.
Starting point is 02:40:18 So I see this comment, and I don't mean to like, I actually, I don't mean to clap back at all. It's more just conversational. Really weird takes on Keltrick's Falk's fit. He's the classic Eric Armstead pick in Salas defense, and that's exactly what he's going to do. Eric Armstead was 6-7-292 pounds. Right. At the combine. Right.
Starting point is 02:40:38 And he's big, and he's like 310 now, I would assume. That's not the same. I just want to, like, defend the criticism a little bit here. Keldrick Falk, my problem was I wish, I wish Keldrick Falk was 290 to 300 pounds. Right, me too. He's 276. I think they have, what Keldrick Falk would be asked to do this year, I think they have that already. I think they went out and spent on it.
Starting point is 02:41:03 So, you know, once again, I hope he's a more. impactful player than what we expect. And yeah. No, I'm with you. I'm with you 100%. We've talked about Keldrick Falk plenty throughout the draft season. Sure. You and I are lower on Keldrick Falk.
Starting point is 02:41:25 He is a long-limbed, in my opinion, three-four defensive end type of a player. I would, the value that I had on him was a late second round type of a player. He was his passers win percentage. was right around 10, 11% through most of his career when he was at Auburn. I am just not really one to say that you're going to get way better at pass rushing
Starting point is 02:41:50 when you get to the NFL if it was never really in your nature when you were in college. So I'm not just going to blindly bet on that. I think he's a solid player. I would have had other players because the defensive ends, let's see. He was picked at 31.
Starting point is 02:42:09 The other players that we had on the board that you could have picked. T.J. Parker, R. Mason Thomas, Cassius Howe, Derek Moore, Zion Young, Gabe Accus. I mean, Karen Crawford, I even like a better pass rusher. And obviously, he was on the same team as Keldrick Falk. So it's just sort of how you see the player.
Starting point is 02:42:35 That's it, yeah. I feel like solid needs more pass rushers. And that's also why I didn't love the mic. Michael Williams pick last year either. It's for the same reason. Now I know. Now I know that Mike L was hurt, so I'm not going to sit here and, you know, like totally judge Michael Williams after a year where he was a rookie and then he was hurt.
Starting point is 02:42:53 But like, I think Sala actually needs more pass rushers out of the guys that play on the four down front for him. Anyways, Washington, last team, bringing us home. Small class here, which is interesting and I think kind of goes into their grade. Sonny Stiles, the linebacker from Ohio State at number seven overall, did not trade down from that spot. Didn't trade down from 71 either where they took Clemson wide receiver Antonio Williams. Fifth round they got Joshua Joseph, the edge rusher from Tennessee. Ketron Allen, the fat man, getting your final badge here of the exercise as a day three difference
Starting point is 02:43:28 maker. Matt Goldman, the center from Michigan State at 209, and then bringing us home. Athen Calliak Manus, notably getting drafted ahead of Garrett Nussmeier, by the way, at 2.23. As we all expected, of course. Total. Me? from Caliac Manus. How we feel, Connor. Love this draft.
Starting point is 02:43:47 Blown away by what they were able to do without much capital, right? I think that you go into it. Obviously, the Laramie-Tunzel trade has an impact on the amount of capital you have to spend. You get Sunny Styles at 7, exactly what the middle of their defense needs. They've spent a lot of money to get younger
Starting point is 02:44:05 and faster on this defense. Well, then you add Sunny Styles in the middle of it. It's going to get Dan Quinn's unit back to what it needs to be. Antonio Williams is going to fit in, perfectly with Jaden Daniels. He's a quick area separator from the slot. He's dangerous with the ball in his hands.
Starting point is 02:44:19 He is reliable in terms of catching the football and finishing plays. Jaden Daniels is going to love him. Joshua Josephs love the first step as a pass rusher. DPR year one in this scheme, somebody that just consistently had high pressure rates because of his athleticism. K. Tron Allen, he could be a 1B in this backfield. One-housand-ruder. That's why I got the bad strut.
Starting point is 02:44:42 me, runs through contact, more of what the commanders need in this backfield for sure. Matt Galpin, legit center depth, legitimate center depth. The Caliac Manus pick was, you know, a little out there. And we liked him at one point of the fall. He just didn't finish the season. You hoped he would. Right. I gave this a B plus and that's factoring in that they were working under manned. They didn't have a lot of picks. I mean, if they had a second round pick and took an average player, this would have been in the A's. The commanders did a great job the entire offseason. I thought given what they had, this is an A draft for me. I liked this because there were two players specifically, well, I guess you could make the case for four, really, that I wouldn't have tricked.
Starting point is 02:45:23 Most, I don't even want to say most. Okay. The commanders didn't have a lot of picks in this draft. So you look at number seven, you basically say, all right, well, if you want meaningful other picks, you have to trade down for number seven. One of the players in which I would have said, no, no, no, stick and pick was Sonny Stiles. and Sonny Stiles was there and they picked him. So I love that he made it there. I love that they pulled the trigger on Sunny Stiles.
Starting point is 02:45:44 I love that they didn't get too cute with it. Because to me, I saw somebody say this in the comments. Where does Sunny Stiles play with Frankie Lovu and with Leo Chanel who they signed? Sonny Stiles actually just gets to play the mic. Like he gets to play the mic backer on this team. He gets to be the centerpiece. Frankie Lovu is more of sort of like a Sam linebacker anyways, like a power linebacker anyways. And then to me, Leo Chanel is just, I mean, you could do so much with him.
Starting point is 02:46:08 He's a blitzing player for you. He can beat play as a Sam. He can rush off the edge. He can rush up the middle. Like Leo Chanel is just a chaos causer at the second level. And you get to allow him to do that now that you have Sony Stiles as the mic in the middle. So I like that. Antonio Williams gives them some speed, but also some good yards after catch stuff as an underneath type of a wide receiver.
Starting point is 02:46:29 So I think he's very complimentary of what they already have on the roster. Getting Joshua Joseph, somebody who might be one of the most talented pass rushers in this class, He just hasn't put it all together and is consistent with it. You getting him in the fifth round? I mean, that's talent that you would have picked in the third. So to me, when I look at the commanders, I go, all right, well, you didn't trade down to acquire picks, but you certainly got plus value out of so many other selections that really helped supplement the fact that you didn't have a lot of picks. I think Ketron Allen, Bill Kroski, Merritt, and Rashad White are a really nice running back trio that can do a lot of different things for you.
Starting point is 02:47:04 And Matt Goldman's a really good backup center for them as well. So to me, I love this draft. I think they did an excellent job capitalizing on talent as it was falling to them, knowing they didn't have a lot of ammunition to work with. But when they did pull the trigger, I thought it was very meaningful on players that could be big time difference makers for them. And there it is. And there it is.
Starting point is 02:47:23 Longest show of the year besides the charity stream. Longest show of the year. Folks, we appreciate everybody. Tune in for this one. Riding with us for almost three hours of this show. You guys are the absolute best. And honestly, a massive thank you to you guys. for everything. Going back all the way to summer scouting, the beginning of summer scouting last
Starting point is 02:47:41 year, all of our coverage that we had with the stock up, stock down episodes during the season, the fixture franchises, the mock drafts, the player rankings, all of our coverage of the Shrine Bowl, the Senior Bowl, the Combine, through all the co-lab mock drafts, and especially everybody who hung out with us during the draft shows on the Bleacher Report stream. You guys are incredible. We say this all the time. We truly mean it. This is the best draft community in the world. You guys are what makes this so much fun. And honestly, I can't wait to do it all with you next year. I am really genuinely. I get excited for a new class. I'm laughing. I know. Because TD put Connor so ready to dip. Gentlemen, there is nothing scarier in this world than a
Starting point is 02:48:24 hungry, very pregnant wife. And you need to make sure that you take care of your hungry, pregnant wife. But no, we're good here. I agree. I want to echo those statements, Treb, because it's amazing to witness the audience travel with us. We go to another place like Bleacher Report, and we see all of you in the chat, and you're in on the bits, and Lefco is involved, and we're laughing and we're having fun.
Starting point is 02:48:51 And it's, man, life like this sure is sweet, man. That's all I could say. What a year it was. It was a very rewarding special year, and that is a thank you to the addicts that watch and listen to this show. We love you guys. We appreciate you.
Starting point is 02:49:05 We're going to give this show, this specific episode, a little bit of time to breathe. This is the only episode from us this week. But we'll have an episode for you guys next week. We haven't exactly decided on what it's going to be, but it's definitely going to be something looking into the future for 2027. So whether that's reviewing like a 2027 mock or something like that, we'll have an episode for you guys next week. So for the chef, behind the scenes,
Starting point is 02:49:28 the man. So much work this season enhancing all of the visuals, all of everything that we do on this show. As always, nonstop W is here to end the show for the chef in the chat. For Connor Rogers, I'm Trevor Sikkim, saying thank you guys so much for watching this episode and every episode of the 2026 NFL draft cycle here at the NFL Stock Exchange Show. And we'll see you guys next time.

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