NFL Stock Exchange: An NFL Draft Podcast - Drafting USA Olympic Flag Football Teams

Episode Date: May 23, 2025

In response to the NFL allowing player to participate in flag football in the 2028 Olympics, Trevor Sikkema and Connor Rogers draft potential Olympic rosters against one another and see whose team would win against the other in the event

Welcome to the opening bell of the NFL stock exchange podcast presented by our friends over at arena the sports super app that combines DFS social media and all the sports news that you could ever want you don't download that anywhere you get your apps in the app store church just search arena sports and you guys will be able to find it. I'm Trevor Sikama with me as always is Connor Rogers and Connor, as the good people said last week, NFL stock exchange never lets a good topical idea or chaos as they said last week, uh, go to waste here.

And here we have another great topic here of conversation as you and I once again going to go toe to toe mono-e-mono elimination chamber style drafting flag football teams against one another as it is now official. Did we get NFL players in the flag football Olympics in 2028? First of all, how are you my friend? And second of all, what do we think of the news here? I'm good, man. I'm excited about this. Listen, the Olympics around NBC are really, really exciting time and getting an event like this that is probably going to have a lot of star talent in it is a really, really big

deal. No matter what you think of flag football from an entertainment perspective, it's obviously very different from typical football. We're going to get into all that all that as we start our draft here going head to head in terms of what you're looking to draft, the format, the field size, the rules. But it's cool to me, Trevor, that it seems like the reception from some NFL stars is a really positive one,

notably Justin Jefferson. Because if you think about it, if you're an NFL player, if you want to represent your country, you obviously don't have that avenue unless you think you can go take up a different event like track and field or something, where for the most like next winter, we're gonna have NHL players back in ice hockey

in the Olympics, which is gonna be unbelievable because it always was unbelievable before that stopped. Obviously basketball in different formats, multiple formats. Basketball in the Summer Olympics is unbelievable. Like just what Steph Curry did last year, but it's every year. There's some kind of storyline. It's an incredible international game. Yeah, it's it is really I think gonna mean a lot to some these guys. And it'll be really entertaining from a summer perspective as well before the NFL season kicks off. Yeah, I hope that this doesn't come off as like too insulting because honestly,

I would love for there to be a world where non-professional athletes were the ones who participated in these Olympic events. And we cared about it just as much. It would be a really cool way for some people who don't make it to the pro level. Flag football is very different than NFL football. We'll talk about all the ways it is different. We'll talk about the rules, everything.

We're going to set it up so you guys not only know exactly what's going to happen in 2028, but we, of course, have to set it up correctly as we are going to draft these rosters against one another and then have the good people, the addicts, decide whose team would actually win if you and I squared off here. But I would love for a world to exist

where pro athletes weren't playing in these events and we cared about it just as much. That just doesn't happen. It just doesn't happen. So like you said, with hockey, with the NHL players now being able to play again, with the NBA players, I mean, how cool was it to see all those guys out there for the summer Olympics when we got to see that?

And to be honest, now we get these football players to have the ability to do the same thing. And it's funny because what's the rule? Like the rule is that it's one player from each team, right? I think that that was the stipulation there is that that it's one player from each team. Right. I think that that was that that was the stipulation there is that you can get one player from each NFL team. You can't double up. But I do wonder how much of a conversation is going to happen behind the scenes with some of these owners of these star players who are going to want to play in the 2028 Olympics. And it's like,

all right, well, now you're obviously thinking about potential injury as well. If something happens to your star player, what that means for you, not just in the upcoming season, which will be 2028, but also beyond, like, I don't know. I wonder if some of the stars are ultimately going to sort of bow out if their owners are like, please don't play. But it's also hard to like, I think

it would be hard for, like Justin Jefferson, for example, you bring up Justin Jefferson. I think it would be hard for Justin Jefferson to watch what Steph Curry and LeBron and all those guys just did this past Summer Olympics for their country to come together and form the super team and him not want to do the same to go get an Olympic gold medal and wear USA on his chest. So even though even though I do think there's going to be some conversations between the owners and these star players,

it's going to be pretty hard to keep these guys from being on the field to win that gold medal. Yeah, it means sometimes it means everything to them, right? There are guys that, you know, put a gold medal right up there with an NBA championship or a Stanley Cup or whatever it may be. And I and we saw this this year because this a lot of guys in this era of hockey like the Kachucks how much it meant to them the foreign nations. It was an exhibition tournament. Dude, it was so awesome. And those guys who were out there,

I mean, think about now, a lot of injuries did come out of that, and it's obviously a wildly physical sport, but it meant everything to those guys. It really, really did, and the intensity was sick. It's, you know, you think of the world baseball classic to kind of bring up the controversial part of this. I'm a Mets fan as everybody knows.

Edwin Diaz tours patellar tendon in the world baseball classic. Like tour his patellar tendon a month before the regular season. After a historic season as one of the best seasons we've ever seen from a closer. And he was celebrating on the mound. He just jumped up and down and tore his knee.

So like that's the side of it that people will be, and this is a very agile, change of direction, twitchy sport. Like there is gonna be, so you don't know, you gotta make sure the surfaces are right. But there's much more positive from this, and I think guys are really, really gonna embrace it. And the last side of it is, it's the whole thought process of,

you know, we wanna see Matthew Kachuk and Brady Kachuk on a line together in the foreign nations. We wanna see Lamar Jackson throwing to Justin Jefferson. Well, don't think, hold on, don't be giving away picks. Don't be giving away picks. I don't care. Like, that's the whole, people are fascinated by that. It's when we get to see Steph play with LeBron

that you're like, I have to watch this. I have to see this. This might be the only chance I ever get to see this. So it's, yeah, it's really unique. Well, it's the all-star events, but the players care. That's exactly it. That's what it is. It's the spirit of the all-star events,

but all of the players not only care, like deeply care. You know? So I try. Right, right. I mean, I go back to, dude, the Summer Olympics, Scottie Scheffler wins gold as a golfer, and he's somebody who never shows any emotion ever.

And he's crying up there on the podium getting the gold medal. It's just, to what you're saying, it's going to mean so much for these guys. And I'm very, very excited for it. Now, flag football is different than NFL football. So that means that the teams that we are going to draft here, it's not just going to be an NFL All-Star event.

Now there's obviously we're going to draft a lot of stars here, but there's some strategy. There are some things to think about. And as someone- Dan Moore is on the board. What'd you say? Dan Moore Jr. is actually on the board.

Yeah, I mean, yeah. I don't think either of us are going to do this. But I was on local Charlotte Sports Radio with my guy, Kyle Bailey, who is great. And the news had just broke that this was going to happen, that NFL players were going to play in the Olympics. And Kyle was just like, Hey, you know, I don't want to put you on the spot here, but like, who are you really excited to see?

Who do you want to see in the Olympics? And I immediately was like, Oh, Vita Vea, of course. And he just starts howling, laughing in the background. And I was like, can you imagine how embarrassing it would be if Vita via just snaps the football and then post somebody up right on the goal line? It's not out of the range of possibilities. Let me make this very, very clear. I don't, I don't think the common human

understands how athletic the elite defensive tackles are compared to even a semi pro athlete. Like it Vita Bay is the perfect example where he would absolutely moss like a decent athlete in any other league. It is the meme of the European mind cannot cannot possibly comprehend this and it's Vita Bay catching a corner touchdown toe tapping in the back at the end zone. That's it. That is. And then hitting the gritty with Justin Jefferson coming off the bench

to do it with him. And everyone's like, okay, this is a terrible idea. Great idea, but we're embarrassing everybody else now. I will say, obviously I had to do some film research for this exercise, right? I watched exactly one, count them, one Olympic flag football game, getting ready for this, just to understand the skill set of what we needed.

And I'm like five minutes into the game. And one of these dudes absolutely lowers the shoulder heading into the end zone and just cracks this dude straight in the middle of the chest. And I was like, that's what we need. That's what we'd like. That's what we'll get. The Patriots fired up if we get to see one of those.

Just running through their chest, first play, take the penalty, get ejected, play a man down. It's fine. You set the tone. You know that America is not to be messed with. I played, it reminds me, I played flag in college and the refs, number one, were players on the football team, which made it really, really funny, number one, were players on the football team, which made it really, really funny, number one,

because they kind of enhanced what I'm about to get to. It was eight on eight. Hold on, you went to Albany, right? Yeah, I went to Albany. So Jared Verst, Jared Verst was one of the refs? I just missed out Jared Verst being one of the refs, which would have been really sick. But we had three man lines, full contact. I don't understand who made the rules.

And this was a school run flag. So we did full contact. You had to have a three man offensive line. And we did full contact kickoffs. So I remember one of my buddies. Wait, hold on. You had to get the flag. You couldn't just tackle the ball carrier.

But one of my buddies, one of my friends, one of our bigger players on the team, just ran down and broke someone's sternum. Like full contact block. You're playing like frat league. Well, this was kind of a wake up call. You're playing like frat league football. This is how you know you're like 19 and really stupid.

Like the thought of that now is just like, no one's wearing pads. It's the only non-contact part is grabbing the flag. It's hilarious to look back upon. But I do miss, I do wish there was three man lines in this because three man lines with no pads would have actually, like there would have been some real art involved in that. Yes, yes.

But Tristan Worf is absolutely getting drafted if that would have been the case. Just to have him stand there with his hands behind his back, doing the mirror thing where he's not technically pass blocking, but he is because he's so huge and he's so quick. This is probably a terrible story for an audio medium. Well, I guess this is a video medium,

but we don't have like footage of it. So I also played flag football when I was at UF. And the one story that I have was like, the quarterback was one of my best friends. And so we sort of had that connection where we practiced all the time, just like me and him, and I was the wide receiver, whatever. He throws me a ball one game, back at the end zone.

I damn near like, oh, Dell this, like one handed over the shoulder, grab it, catch the ball, sort of like do what I can to like toe tap, like get my feet down. And I catch the football with one hand and then I'll like bring it in and I take it to the ground. I am out of bounds. I am out of the back of the end zone by like two yards. You're a loft skater.

And the ref just goes, touchdown. out of bounds, I am out of the back of the end zone by like two yards. You're a lobster. And the ref just goes touchdown. And the other team. The cool factor. The other team starts losing it. They are screaming at this ref. They are pointing to my cleat marks, how it's at the back of the end zone.

And the ref is just standing there, like not even, not completely stone-faced face just hands up touchdown. It was the cool factor. It was just the fact that I call it one handed. I wasn't even close. But you know what? You could have caught it at the bus stop a mile down the road and he was calling that in which is a good that's good refereeing.

Understand understand your environment and where you are. And he's firing reps out there. Ruin the integrity of the game if it's cool enough. That's what we're telling you to do here on this show. Steroids before the game. And then of course ruin the integrity. Especially in a flag league, they help a lot. Okay, let's dig into some of these flag football rules.

Let's sort of like give a quick rundown of what this is. And then we will get into the draft because I think that that's obviously the most fun part of this. So first of all, a flag football field. So this is the Olympic rules that I try to find the official rules that they're going to operate in the 2028 Olympics.

Flag football field is 70 yards by 25 yards. So compare that to 120 yards, including the 10 yard head zones. And then it is 53 and 1 third yards wide. So it's about half as wide of a football field, little less than that. And then when it comes to the actual field of play, is it? No, it wouldn't be exactly.

It's almost half of it, is basically what it is. Yeah, it is. And then you tack on the 10 yard end zones on each side. It's still the 10 yard end zones, right. And so it's 50 yards of play instead of 100 yards of play. And then you have the 10 yard end zones at the back. So it is exactly half there. So the game is much more condensed. It's a lot

quicker. There's a lot less time to make decisions, which I think will go into our rosters here. If you just listen to this podcast, and then if you haven't watched the flag football game, go on YouTube, look up flag football, like Olympic highlights. You can see how the game is played and that'll go into sort of the players that we're drafting here. So essentially, every possession starts at every team's 5 yard line. The center snaps the football back to the quarterback. But then the center also becomes a wide receiver. There's five players on the field at one time on offense and defense. Obviously, you have a quarterback on offense and then three receivers

and then a center who becomes a wide receiver after they have snapped the football, or I guess technically they could become a running back if they run all the way back into the backfield. I don't know if that's what you technically call it. But it's four receivers and a quarterback. And then on the defensive side of the football, it's four coverage players and then a free rusher.

And the free rusher stands seven yards back from, I believe, where the line of scrimmage is. Right. And then they just take off towards the quarterback, and then you have the four coverage players behind him. It can be a combination of safeties if you're playing zone safeties and corners, if you're playing zone coverage,

you can go man coverage if you want to, but that's obviously a difficult thing to do. But that's sort of how it is set up there. Every team has four downs to get from their own five yard line to the middle of the field up there. Every team has four downs to get from their own five yard line to the middle of the field. And then they have another four downs to get from the middle of the field into the end zone.

Turnovers go to the other team's five yard line unless it's a pick six and you could run the turnover back. You can do all that. No running plays allowed within five yards of the end zone. So you can't just have a cheesy handoff play. There's no tush push. You can't tush push your way into the end zone. So you can't just have a cheesy handoff play. There's no tush push. You can't tush push your way into the end zone. So you can't do that.

Quarterbacks can't run, even though they're being blitzed by the free rusher, unless you throw the ball backwards, technically like a lateral, if you throw that backwards, then the player who receives the ball obviously could throw it if they wanted to. and that player can then run it. But once you do that, once you pass that ball, then anybody can blitz, not just the free rusher.

So you got to think about that as well. Six points if you get a touchdown, one point conversion if you run or pass from the five yard line, and then it's a two point conversion if you're doing that from the 10 yard line. Five players on the field at each time like I said normally and I guess we'll leave it up to roster flexibility with how we want to build this but normally you have five offensive players you have five defensive players and that's sort of like how you build out your roster there. I'm willing to see if you have some creativity there

with how you end up drafting this team. And I think that's it. I think that's basically the rules and how we set it up here. Did I forget anything that I need to emphasize here? No, I think you summed it up really, really well. I'm kind of curious how NFL players and coaching adapts and evolves to these rules.

Yeah. Like what wrinkles do they throw in? What concepts apply that they use now versus what doesn't? That's what I'm really interested to watch. Yeah. There's a good amount of strategy that's going to happen here for this draft. And I'm very intrigued to see the directions that you go and how you emphasize

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Hi, Connor. How are we doing this? I'm going to take the first pick if you're going to offer it to me. Yeah, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, back and forth. Yeah, you just take it. Yeah, sure. Sure. Sure. Yeah, because I actually think from the night this is yes, this is one of the times that.

It's not a huge advantage. Like it's it's not like getting gente in the offensive rookie of the year draft or along the or just Gentie in a rookie draft this year. I think it's I think this draft is pretty wide open, but there is somebody that I have to have. See, I have a player that I think is without a doubt the number one player to get. Interesting.

I think now that you say that you want the number one pick, I don't think you're going to take my guy, which is going to be interesting. Right. That's why I thought about not taking the number one pick because I have a feeling who you take number one is not who I would, but I'll still take number one because number one, first off, I, we have to establish two things by the way before we start this draft. One, we're not drafting this for the year 2028, right?

We're drafting this for today. Oh, I'm drafting this for now. Yes. Thank you. Okay, I just want to make that clear. No, our teams are lining up this weekend. This is for today. Yes. To play a flag football game.

That's just the easiest way to do it. Yes. It's too much projection with, like, Jeremiah Smith, number one pick. Seriously, that could have happened. So, yeah. I didn't even think of that, so I'm glad that we clarified that there.

We will do that exercise in three years. We will. We're building up for it. Here's the second part. If I draft a player from one team, can you not draft a player from that team? No, I didn't think about that. Should we? It is going by the designation of the NFL, but we don't have to.

That would make this. Very interesting. Yeah, let's do that. Let's do that. If you pick a player from a certain team, I can't pick another player from that team. OK, yeah. The number one overall pick in the NFL Stock Exchange flag football draft. Is Lamar Jackson.

OK, OK. All right. OK. But that that did take Zay Flowers out of this. Who is no. Yeah, I'm just saying. I know. I'm just saying. I'm just kidding. That was good. That was the LeBron to a T. I've seen some people like I like Zay Flowers, but I've seen some people really.

Listen, Zay is awesome. And honestly, in all seriousness, Zay in this format is awesome. Makes sense. Yes. Yeah, but I okay. So to break down the pick, I think the most important aspect of this entire sport is if your quarterback can just not be tackled and extend plays because the coverage can just, how do they keep up?

These are NFL receivers in this situation. So you're just the number one goal to me is how do you extend plays the longest while not compensating with arm talent all at all? And I had two players on the board here for the number one pick, and it was Lamar Jackson and Kyler Murray. And I just think I think Lamar and flag football would be, I mean, he's obviously insane in real football.

I think he is unfathomable in flag football. I think his arm talent is out of this world at this point. You cannot tackle him. You can't run with him. He's so elusive. I don't see how anybody would ever pull the flag from him. And the differences between him and Kyler is, Lamar has longer strides where if he made a guy miss

and had the long stride to one part of the sideline, I think that gives him better escape ability in this, although it is very, very close. I think both of those guys are, I think the top two quarterbacks, although I would also throw Jaden Daniels in there now. I think Jaden Daniels is in that conversation from how he played this past year.

Lamar would not have been my first overall pick. Lamar also would not have been the quarterback that I would have chosen. So we'll obviously talk about that when I get to that. I don't have to pick a quarterback now until the very end because you get picked a quarterback. Although I did entertain the idea of the two quarterback strategy

if you thought one of them would be good enough as a wide receiver, because then you could have a strategy where both of them are in the backfield. You could have one of them hike the football run to their run run to their right or left and then the other quarterback is on the opposite side of the field. If he gets in trouble, if nobody's open, all you do is throw it back to them. They then have the opportunity to run the football. So right. I thought about the double quarterback strategy. I don't think I'm going to do it. I

don't think you're going to do it. I don't think you're going to do it. So does this mean that we can't pick Kyle Hamilton? Correct. Marlon Humphrey, anyone you can think of. OK. Yeah, it's over. Derrick Henry, just for, again, to's Eric Henry. Right. Just for again, to set the tone.

Off the bus mentality. Yes, yes. Run through somebody's face. Take the penalty. Just run straight through somebody's chest, take the ejection, leave, but the other team now knows, this is not to be messed with. The other team forfeits. Okay, I have back to back picks now.

I don't think, I don't think you're gonna do it and take Kyle Murray. I don't think you're gonna do it. I don't think you're gonna do it. I really should. I don't think you're gonna do it. I really, really should. The player that I'm taking first

is the player who I think that I'm taking first is the player who I think is the greatest flag football player alive right now. Like he would be the greatest flag football player alive. And that is Tyree Kill. I genuinely believe that Tyree Kill would be the best flag football player on the planet. I think I agree with you. The way in which he gets off the line of scrimmage specifically,

because again, you don't listen to this podcast or you want to pause it and please come back because we need to use our families are starving. Go watch and look at how speed of getting off the line of scrimmage and creating separation immediately matters so much because the quarterback genuinely has like two seconds to throw the ball. And the way that Tyree Hill can get off the line of scrimmage, get into his top speed, which is an unbelievable rare gear anyways, even right now.

I went back and I watched some Tyree Hill footage even from this past season, because obviously he didn't play as well. Miami didn't play as well. And I was like, eh, did he lose a step? Not really, not really. It's all still there. I think he's the best flag football player on the planet.

He's just completely unguardable. So I will go Tyree Kill with my first pick there. And I'll go with Justin Jefferson as my second pick. I'm going to take Justin Jefferson. It feels like he is the poster child for USA flag football. I think that he is absolutely- He's been very vocal about it.

What'd you say? He's been very vocal about it, which is cool. Yeah, I mean, like I think that he is going to be extremely motivated to play this flag football game. He's gonna be extremely motivated to win gold for the USA. And honestly, he's gonna be extremely motivated to whoop your ass in this little scrimmage get together, this little recess get together that we have here.

So my first two picks, I'll go back to back wide receivers. I wasn't sure if I would do that, but it just feels right saying that Tyree Kill, who again, I think would be the best flag football player on the planet and then Justin Jefferson to be the captain of this team. I mean, I think I would have done the same thing if I was you. If I had the snake two and three,

I definitely would have taken, I actually, no, that would have been it. I have not even second guessing it because I went quarterback, so you didn't have to theoretically. And then the two guys that make so much sense is, I mean, Hill Speed, there's just nobody that can cover him in this format,

in my opinion. And then with Jefferson, the body control and the high pointing and the timing, I think it would be pretty similar, that it's just in a different capacity that nobody could touch him. There's a little NFL street to this. Yes.

A little bit of an NFL. Like you said, it's not the three on three O line and D line though, which I feel like we've got to bring back the NFL street draft at some point, but those are my two first two picks. So I figured that quarterback wide receiver, wide receiver would be the first three picks, like whoever they were going to be. I didn't know exactly who they were going to be, but I figured the first three picks in this draft were going to be quarterback wide receiver, wide receiver in some order. Now that we got those off the board, the draft now begins with you having back to backs. This is where you actually implement some strategy here.

So I'm curious as to where you're going to go with this back to back. So I'm going to take Patrick Sertan the second. Cool. Good. Good. Because. You needed to. I mean, it feels like undeniably he's the best corner option. And obviously that matters so much in this format is just getting an elite cover man, like an elite cover man. I think the combo really opens up after him. I wrote down a ton of different names.

I was like, yeah, that makes sense. That makes sense. But he was kind of the like, this is the guy right here. The US would really need this guy because he can island your best player. Where in this scenario, I would want him to match up with Justin Jefferson, I would think in that scenario where eventually I'd want there's more strategy. We'll get into it when the teams are complete.

But Sir Tan's going to be my second pick because of the supply situation. Number three. This is going to be interesting. Can't pick anybody on the team that's already been picked. No. I'm going to take Jamar Chase. And who? OK, yeah, yeah. I'm going to take Jamar Chase. Okay.

Okay. Yeah. Yeah. One on one. God, to be honest with you. Yeah. Just a one on one. God.

It wasn't easy, though, that spot. There's a couple other guys that were really like I was really torn between. But if I didn't take him, I just wouldn't have that Alpha number one wide receiver. and you have two of them already. So I need that difference maker and chase. All right, Patrick, Sir Tan, Jamar chase. Okay, this has not interfered.

The whole like, okay, you're picking somebody of one team. Now you can't pick anybody else from that team, that has not come into play yet. And that won't come into play with my next two picks here either. But Patrick Chertan, you know, it's interesting with you picking him because he is somebody who can play

both off coverage and man coverage. Yeah. And man coverage in flag football is kind of tricky because you really either have to have a full roster that's just dedicated to man coverage or you won't really be able to play too much of it at all. But there are situations where like against my team specifically, you could maybe do like, you know, the basketball box in one. And the one is you're trying to shut down Justin Jefferson and you're trying to play. Okay. Some sort of like cap coverage on Tyree kale.

That's what I thought, you know, trying to play like some sort of rotating coverage one way or the other. So that part of it is interesting. Jamar chase is interesting too, because I think that for as much as you want really good route runners and really good like quick separators, like guys who could win immediately, you also need contest to catch guys. Like you need contest to catch monsters. Think of who my quarterback is. Yeah. Like, like I'm asking Lamar Jackson to run around for a really long time and throw up the ball to someone, I'd rather that be Jamar Chase.

Right, right. And Jamar, I think when people think of the contest to catch wide receivers, they think a lot of the guys that like tower over, I'm not gonna say names, cause I'm not gonna give you any hints about who's still left on my board. But Jamar Chase is one of those dudes who it's like,

okay, he's not the biggest wide receiver in the NFL, but my God, he is just like I said, he's a one on one God. He is. You put him in single coverage so many times, he's just going to come down with it. And you're going to be very happy with the results there. So all right, you've got Lamar Jackson, you've got Patrick Chertan, you got Jamar Chase. I have Tyree Kill and Justin Jefferson. My next two picks are both safeties. I'm knocking safety out because as I watched some of the flag football

game that I was using as prep here, you have to have a deep safety and you have to have a robber safety. If you're playing zone coverage, which I'm building my team around playing zone coverage, especially with you taking Patrick Chertan, there's one other player that you could get. I think that allows you to really play man coverage if you wanted to. But I think I'm going to play a lot more zone and with zone, I want a robber. I want a guy who is just going to free of mind,

come downhill and hunt the football over the middle. And then I want some guy on the backhand who's got a high football IQ and somebody who can get from sideline to sideline. Which you especially have the ability to do if they're quick with this only being 25 yards, sideline to sideline. Jesse Bates is one pick. Okay. Antoine Winfield Jr is the other.

Okay. Antoine Winfield Jr is is the other. OK. Antoine Winfield Jr. is going to play my single high safety. He's going to be the deep safety because his shorter legs allows him to get his feet in the ground quicker. He could chop his feet quicker. And you can get from one point to the sideline quicker, even without super long strides. And he's an incredibly high IQ football player

and anticipates where the ball is going very, very well. And then Jesse Bates, I don't think there's a safety in the NFL better at roaming the middle of the field than Jesse Bates him and Xavier Watts this year in Atlanta, both of those guys being able to do that at any time as the up safety or the down safety, I am so excited to watch them in the same defense. I think that is a phenomenal pairing that's gonna be great to watch for years to come.

And I really do think that there's no better middle of the field. I don't wanna say enforcer, I'll say ballhawk than what Jesse Bates has been over the last three or four years. So Jesse Bates, Antoine Field Jr. Those are my back to back picks there. And those are my two safeties that I'm extremely happy

to get here in this format. This is really fun because we're building our teams differently, which is kind of the best entertainment factor of this. And I'm obviously kind of with my pick of Surtan, I want somebody that I think can match up on an island against receivers in flag football, which is a huge ask. But and I want a quarterback that can extend and throw the ball down the field. I think you have some quicker separators and guys that can kind of Roman zone. So it's just it's really cool to see us like taking a different approach. And it kind of makes you wonder ultimately

what the committee is going to do in this scenario. They might just star hunt to they might be like, hey, you're the biggest star in the league. You go come play on the team. Yeah. But it is this kind of shows like if there was a off season flag league, how a GM of a flag team could operate for this scenario. I'm just thinking right now, Jeremiah Smith is absolutely playing for this team. It's like, I mean, yeah, Jeremiah Smith is 1000% like actually playing for this team in 2020.

That's why I asked the question because I knew the comments would be like, why didn't you guys take him? I mean, you can still draft him if you want. No, no, no, I'm not going to. You can't take anybody else from Ohio State. That means, you know, right, right do- You can't take anybody else from Ohio State, that means, you know, so. Right, right. So you can't take Caleb Downs. Oh man, who would be sick in this?

Who would actually be absolutely sick in this? Yeah, there's no doubt about it. So just from what I did there by taking Jesse Bates and Antoine Winfield Jr., Mike Evans and Drake London now can no longer be picked. Good call out. So that hurts my heart deeply. Right.

Because I would have loved nothing more than to get Mike Evans on this football team. But I have other options there. I didn't feel as confident about drafting safeties that weren't Antoine Winfield Jr. and Jesse Bates. All right. So I have back to back picks here. My team is Lamar Jackson, Patrick Sertan, the second Jamar Chase. Yes. One of my picks is going to be Travis Hunter.

OK, which takes Brian Thomas Jr. off the board. Who I thought about, I was going to say I was actually really thinking about him. Why I like Hunter so much is because you could substitute like you don't need two way players. That's it's nice thing to have in this. It's not a necessity. I think Hunter in this format would be insane. Hunter is not straight line speed.

He's twitch and change of direction. Yes, and I am obviously having him play some wide plenty Hunter is not straight line speed. He's twitch and change of direction. He is. And I am obviously having him play some wide plenty of wide receiver. But I want him to play safety for me. That's my whole thought with this pick. Mm hmm. I think you'd have to play free safety for you. Like you safety. Yes.

I think this is somebody that the ball skills in this would just be out of this world. And the fact that now I kind of have a little bit of a hybrid piece that can play both sides of the ball is just a nice little touch in all of this. But I think the bigger factor is that I think Hunter, his style of defense would be insanely effective in this. And you went back to back safeties already. So the Biden really like how that looks, but now I get somebody that I think is a really good

wide receiver in this format, but also a really good defender. This also, not that I want to encourage you, but the, I think if one of us were to pick two quarterbacks, that person would have had to pick Travis Hunter, right? Because like, yes, you have to make up for that roster spot somewhere. Right. And that's why I'm taking Kyler Murray here. If you were, I was going to be like, look, man.

No, no, it's not fun. No, it's just not fun. I'm not going to do that. But. I can't wait for I can't wait for USA to actually do that. Flag football's version of Herb Brooks to actually do that. There is a world where they just say, screw it. And they just run that two quarterback system until I don't think they need to. They don't need to game the system, though.

I wonder how deep the roster is going to be. You know, like you only get 10 that you get to dress, but like, who's the taxi squad? Yeah. You know what I'm saying? Like, are they going to are they going to keep like, you know, like, guys or something? Yeah, they're going to run like a real camp and like a scratch guy. So I'm saying, you know, it's a good question.

Got to have the guys in reserve, you know, what if somebody gets hurt? That who ultimately gets like exceptions to play for other countries. It's going to be really. Oh, yeah. So Jordan, my lot is going to play wide receiver for. What is it, New Zealand or Australia? I think it's New Zealand. I think so, too. Is it?

Now I'm going to check. But yeah, but that's like a that's one that like sure. I'm talking about the guys that are just like, yeah, my. Great, great, great grandpa. Oh, it is from Italy. So now I'm on the Italian team. Which hey, power to if you wasn't. Wait, was Ash Jancy born in Italy or did you know,

you grew up, he grew up in Italy and then he finished his high school career in Texas, but he did play a lot of football in Italy But was he born in Italy? No, no, I don't think so and Like the let's where was Jency born. He was born in Jacksonville but Though that team he played on, they traveled around Europe and played. So he was just like punking like all kinds of different countries. Much to the chagrin of the Sicilian.

Switzerland when Ash and Jesse shows up. Come on again. He just destroyed Germany two weeks ago. France is like, they're not even. No, France is like, no, we'll give you the win. Yeah, we'll give you the win. Save the embarrassment. Okay. So Travis Hunter off the board.

Who's next? Next is neither of us have picked a free rusher yet. No, no, neither of us have done that. Am I nuts for thinking like I could ask someone else to do that? It says that I'm not going to, but it wasn't on my priority list. There is there is a skill set needed to be a good free rusher, though. I have a very one player on my big board would surprise a lot of people. We'll see if I end up having to take.

I also have I have two players that I think might surprise me. So my final pick of the back to back here. After taking Travis Hunter. God, don't do it. Don't do it. You're going to take it from me. No, I'm not. I know who you want. I am going to take Jameer Gibbs. Oh, wow.

Yeah. Oh, you're surprised by that. Why? I'm not. I don't think I will pick a running back. Interesting. I don't think I will pick a running back. Interesting, because you don't really you don't really I will pick a running back. Interesting. Because you don't really, you don't really have to have one. You can. You can. I'm thinking about a player that I want in space that makes people miss and has four three wheels. And that's and that's Gibbs. Right.

Like that's that's absolutely Gibbs. I totally give you that. I could totally see that. I thought about him. I thought about B John. I thought about him. I thought about Bijan. I thought about McCaffrey. You know, well. A-chan, before you took Tyreek was in play for me.

Oh, okay. And he is a guy that is gonna have 500 plus receiving yards every year. Damn, Gibbs. Gibbs takes St. Brown off the board. Yep. For the quick hit. He was on the big board.

Could have picked him. All right. Kirby Joseph, Aiden Hutchinson, just throwing guys that are like Aiden, just a rush. Just to I mean, you talk about a guy who would absolutely just give it all for his country. You don't have to question about any plays being taken off. Aiden Hutchinson, man. Okay.

All right, Jameer Gibbs off the board here. Man, what am I gonna go with next? I think I know your next pick and I wasn't gonna do that to you. Derek Stingley Jr. is one of them. That was who I thought about taking Stingley to have two shut down corners, but I actually just really like the corner board right now. Like Sir Tan was the guy. I do too.

I had Sir Tan in a tier of his own. Yeah. But then I had like six guys that I put in the same tier. So I was like, I don't, I don't need to do that this early. And I want a contested catch receiver. Right. And two of the best ones just got wiped off the board from your picks. And two of the best are gone.

And I'm getting, I'm going to take AJ. Yeah, I'm going to take AJ Brown. Nobody's picked an eagle yet, right? Nobody has picked an eagle. OK. OK. Yeah. Derek Singley Jr., because I want somebody,

if I need to sort of say, hey, you go guard that dude, make sure he doesn't catch the football, I feel like Stingley Jr. can do that. However, I don't think Derek Stingley Jr. gets enough credit for playing off coverage, like zone coverage, the way that he's been able to over the last couple of years, because he was known really as a press man corner throughout his entire three years when he was at LSU. He obviously plays press man coverage, but

they also use him in off coverage quite a bit while he's with Houston. And for doing some research with this, I use the PFF Ultimate tool to sort of like sift through, okay, what are these corners grades and how have they fared in off zone coverage assignments. Like a lot of cover three stuff, a lot of quarter stuff, and Derek Stingley Jr. is still very good at that. So I wanted to get Stingley Jr. because he's got a little bit of versatility to him. So I will take him there.

Then A.J. Brown. So I don't know if you saw this, Connor, but I recently ranked the top 32 wide receivers going into the 2025 NFL season. And I had A.J. Brown as my number one wide receiver. Wow. And I didn't, I promised people I did not do that to be hot takey. I purposely put three, like tiers into that list.

And tier one is AJ Brown, Justin Jefferson, Jamar Chase. I don't care. You can ask all three of those guys to do anything, win from the sideline, win from the slot, win on the line of scrimmage, win off the line of scrimmage, win against off coverage, win against press coverage and man coverage, anything. You can ask those guys to do it,

and they will all be able to do it for you. However, AJ Brown, from a three-year sample size, has the number one grade in the NFL against single coverage situations. He has a very high contested catch percentage, a ton of contested catches, less drops than both Jamar Chase and Justin Jefferson. He has more receiving yards than Jamar Chase does despite having like 350 less receiving snaps than Jamar Chase has, despite having like 350 less receiving snaps

than Jamar Chase has over the last three years. Like it was, he has the most yards per reception. I don't know if he has the most yards after catch, but I think it goes Jamar Chase and then AJ Brown, even above Justin Jefferson. Like the more research I did, the more I felt like I had to come to the conclusion that if you think all three of these guys are in the same bucket, which some people don't, I do. But if you think that they're all in the same bucket, AJ legitimately has the numbers to be number one amongst those three. So I have him as number one. And when it comes to getting a red

zone contested catch monster, that's what AJ Brown would be on the flag football team for me. You need those kinds of players in this format. You need somebody that can make a play in the red zone above the rim. And again, single coverage specifically. And nobody has been better than AJ Brown.

Whether it was just last year, he was number one in the NFL. Or in a three-year sample size, number one in the NFL. So, yep. Derrick Stingley Jr., AJ Brown, those are my two picks there. So that takes Nico Collins out of this. It does indeed. Who's an interesting option. Yep.

Obviously, Saquon, Devante Smith are off the board as well. So, all right. Derek Stingley and AJ Brown. I have back to back picks here. Man. You're halfway through. Halfway through. I currently have one full-time corner, a quarterback,

a full-time receiver Jameer Gibbs, who is just kind of my in space player. And then Travis Hunter, who I who I truly am going to play on both sides of the ball in this scenario, probably more safety than actual corner. I think I think almost all of the obvious stud players and or their teammates making them no longer available are sort of off the board.

So I think the second half of this draft is all just gonna be strategy from us. Yeah, we have kinda, and a reminder if you're jumping around here, we can not draft more than one player from one team counting Trevor and I. Yes, so, you know, for instance, he took Tyreek Hill. I can't take Jalen Waddle or Devon Aitcham.

Ooh, man. Right. Jalen Waddle. I mean, the Dolphins are basically just an elite flag football team. Oh, I mean, it's how Mike McDaniel built his offense. 100%, 100%. It's kind of funny to think about it. They truly are.

I mean, you can't pick Jalen Ramsey either. No. I'm sitting here during this podcast, begging the dolphins to trade Jalen Ramsey while we are recording so I can draft him. So you could swoop in. Which would be an incredible turn of events if that actually happened. All right, so one of my picks here. Man, this is tricky. One of my picks here is gonna be Brock Bowers.

Ooh. Because. Did he get a snap for you? That would make a lot of sense. But then in the red zone, he's just a wide receiver. Yeah. to get a snap for you? That would make a lot of sense. But then in the red zone, he's just a wide receiver. Yeah. Like I don't know in this form, he is so difficult to cover in the red zone.

And I have Jamar Chase, but I don't really have great size for the red zone right now. Like you knocked out the ability to take Drake London and Mike Evans pretty early. I took Jamar Chase. He's the one big red zone presence I have. But no, Nico Collins, you took AJ Brown.

It goes quick. So Brock Bowers is gonna be like a real, real red zone weapon for me. Okay. In this spot. Okay. So now my offense right now looks like Lamar Jackson, Jamar Chase,

Jameer Gibbs, Brock Bowers, part time Travis Hunter. I have this like this fun swing piece here. This really fun swing piece here. He really fun swing piece. He could just run onto the field at any time. Yeah, he really can try to stop him. Okay.

And now kind of looking back at the defense, man, this is this one might surprise people a little bit. I'm torn in the spot between two players, which is annoying me. Honestly, it's annoying me a lot. All right, I'll go back to this so I don't have to make a decision. This is such a coward's move of this, but I'm going to take CD Lamb here. Okay, because I didn't think you were going to take another

receiver yet. But man, if you took CD and you had him, Tyree Kill, Justin Jefferson, AJ Brown. It's just yeah, I was I was going to I was going to put I was about to put you in a body bag because I was going to take him. Okay, so I'm glad I'm glad I thought of that. Yeah, I kept thinking like, man, is he forgetting about CD

lamb and I could just steal him at the last pick? And I'm like, I need to stop playing with my food here. Yeah. And I need to take CD lamb. So my offense is now officially done with Lamar Jackson, Jamar Chase and CD Lamb, Jameer Gibbs and Brock Bowers, and then Travis Hunter can play offensive needed. Okay. So,

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So who do you have on defense? You have Patrick Chetan. And Travis Hunter. And Travis Hunter, okay. Okay, I'm gonna go Trem McDuffie. He was on the board for me. Which gives me, how many corners? You're stockpiling defensive backs.

Yeah, yeah, yeah. So I got the two safeties, I got the two outside corners, and then I need a rusher or coverage player. Or what else do I need on offense? I need a wide receiver and I need a quarterback. All right. I'm going to take Malik neighbors.

I think Malik neighbors game is so perfect for flag football. He's like CD lamb. He is. He is. He is. The fact that I couldn't get CD lamb, I am perfectly okay with getting the Lake neighbors. I mean, this dude, again, the way- Sure, talk yourself into it, go ahead.

The way that he, I am, I need to, I need to. I always intended to do this. I never even liked CD lamb. He's a bum. I was never gonna pick him. CD, kind of first name is that? No, I'm just kidding. Just kidding. I'm just kidding. We're not bringing people down. Malik's game is built perfectly for flag football in a little bit of the same way that I talked about Tyree Kill at the top. And honestly,

what makes Justin Jefferson so great as well? These guys have the ability to get off the line of scrimmage and get out of their releases unbelievably quick. Their footwork is extremely quick. They can get into their top speed very quickly. And they can change direction while maintaining speed or even accelerating speed. That's just such a huge part of playing flag football. So I wanted to get Trent McDuffie in there, because I need another outside corner

that I trusted who has that high football IQ, who can play really well in zone coverage situations like McDuffie can. And then getting another one-on-one winner at wide receiver. I think what I'm probably going to do is have Malik neighbors snap the football. What a funny thing to say.

But I'd be very tempted for Tyreek Hill to do that, because I would then give him the entire field to work with, to go left or right or deep. And that is just terrifying for any defensive act to try to handle. So one of those two dudes I think are going to be my center slash wide receiver. But Trent McDuffie, Malik neighbors.

There we go. OK. Got two picks left. I got a free rusher and a quarterback left. Do you have? A free rusher and a DB. And a DB. And another DB, right?

Yeah. Oh, yeah. You go back to back here, and then I go back to back, and then you have the last pick of the draft. Right. So I'm going to take Xavier McKinney. OK. All right. So I'm going to take Xavier McKinney. Okay. All right.

I guess I could have done that with the last pick knowing you already took two safeties, but I don't think you were going to take any Packers, but just McKinney to me, he's my best option left at safety. He's got really good ball skills. I could ask a lot of different roles with him, kind of have interchangeable safeties with him and Travis Hunter. McKinney to me gives me like, Hunter, I could ask to, there's a world where I could have all these guys play man and McKinney can kind of roam over the top

a little bit too. This just kind of gives me way more flexibility on the defense. And McKinney is, I mean, the Giants have, I think, done well finding replacements after him, but letting him go now just looks crazy with how good he's been for Green Bay. That signing, I mean, his first year, eight picks, just the ball skills, first team all pro, 26 years old over there. Like this dude's a slam dunk. So number nine, I can go free rusher or I can go another DB here. Once again, I just like how the board opened up with all the DBs.

This one might surprise you a little bit. I feel like you said that the last four picks and you're never surprised. I'm going to take Fred Warner. Who are you picking? Fred Warner. Wow. Good pick. You're surprised. Hey, good pick. Because Warner obviously can do the free rushing. Yeah, I'm absolutely smoking his ass with Malik neighbors, but good pick, good pick.

But if you're in the red zone, I can have him legitimately match up with one of the jump ball guys. This is the best cover linebacker in football, I think. I mean, I think it's like very obvious. And when this game in this condensed field gets very, very tight, I need somebody bigger. I obviously have certain to do that, but you're feeling a team of Justin

Jefferson, A.J. Brown, like there's a world where I'm going to have. If you're at the one, I'm going to have Fred Warner just be right on top of an A.J. Brown type of player. So but Warner, obviously, as well, can be a free rusher if you need him to be. OK, all right, David McKinney, Fred Warner off the board. I thought about taking Jair Alexander as my last corner just because of the quickness.

I forgot to mention him. You know, and I hear when he's healthy is phenomenal. Is absolutely within this conversation. There's no question about it. So that would have taken that would have taken McKinney off because of the quickness. Forget to mention him. You know? And I hear when he's healthy is phenomenal. Is absolutely within this conversation. There's no question about it. So that would have taken McKinney off the board for you. I'm not taking another safety. I don't.

Who am I last to pick? No, no, no. Well, you have to take a quarterback with one of them, I would think, unless you just. I do have to take a quarterback with one of them. He will be my last pick. Who would you have taken at safety without Xavier McKinney? Actually, you know what?

I'm just gonna tell you before- I would have taken one. Oh, you wouldn't have taken one? No, I wouldn't have taken one. I would have just taken all corners. Okay, so wait, who's the next corner that you would have taken? Because I'm gonna take a safety next,

so you're not stealing anything from me. Oh, who's my last pick gonna be? Oh, you do have another pick. I have one more pick. Mm, okay. For my free rusher, I need people to understand what makes a good free rusher here. Yeah, it's a weird skill set. You are lining equal seven yards

behind the line of scrimmage. So you almost have 12 to 15 yards to cover very quickly. You need a player who can get off the ball extremely fast, who has a good 10 yard split, who has good vertical and broad jumps, who has a good 40 yard dash, but then also somebody who is a good, who has a good, who has a good, who has a good 10 yard split, who has good vertical and broad jumps, who has a good 40 yard dash, but then also somebody who is just a good natural athlete, somebody who has long arms, who if they put their arms up, they're able to get within the throwing window. They can anticipate where the quarterback is going to go so they could

do that properly. I am picking Derwin James as my free rushers thing. I'm going to tell him, I'm going to throw in aswin as my free rusher, a guy who could play safety, a guy who could play in the box, a guy who could play the slot, a dude who's been a blitzer. I understand that the 2023 season was rough for him. He had like a 60.5 PFF grade. Last season, so much better. Looked so much more like the Derwin James

that we're used to, an 80.5 overall grade. He had really solid grades across the board. He's been through some injury himself, so he's not quite the athlete that he was coming out of Florida State, but I still think that he's got plenty of juice to get from point A to point B to affect the quarterback. And Derwin's got those long arms too. So he is somebody who has that wingspan and he's got that football IQ to be able to really rattle the quarterback. And he's somebody who going up against Lamar Jackson, who you have, you know, if Lamar sitting there dancing, Derwin James can dance with him. He can at least, you know, give him his money's worth when it comes to that agility in the backfield.

So I'll take Derwin James, my free rusher. And then I am going to take Kyler Murray as my quarterback here. I think the Kyler is Kyler and Lam, in my opinion, are those two obvious picks. Although, like I said, you could throw Jaden Daniels in there as well. So Derwin James, Kyler Murray, that rounds things out before we do a little recap here. So your corners, you ended up with Stingley McDuffie.

Yep. Who am I missing? Nobody, because I'm playing, because you only have five. So the free rusher is Derwin and then Antoine Winfield. You save these to the safeties. Interesting. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. OK. I'm going to take another corner here. I have right now Patrick Sertan.

Obviously, Travis Hunter can play corner or safety. I also have Xavier McKinney. I have Fred Warner, who's going to be my free rusher slash red zone specialist kind of player. So I need another pure corner here. This is why I waited, because this group to me like Stingley is gone, but and McDuffie is gone. But sauce Gardner, Christian Gonzalez, right?

Devin Witherspoon is really interesting in this format with all the different things he could do. C.J. Gardner Johnson, I know he's not available anymore. Is he? No. No. Cause I took, Stingley. Stingley, yes, I had to make CJ Garner Johnson gets traded every off season, so I had to like triple check.

I'm like, he got moved right again. But he's he's a funny guy. They give me their way. Right. That's the funny part. None of the teams he's played for, even the Lions. Right. So none of the teams he's played for. This to me is down to Sauce and Christian Gonzalez. I'm going to take Sauce.

Okay. He's got obviously he's coming off a down year by his standards. The two All Pros before that, but he's got four three wheels. He's got incredible size, and I think that now I can ask him and Sir Tan to truly play. And not that I can't ask Christian Gonzalez to do this. I love Christian Gonzalez, but Sir Tan and sauce on the outside with McKinney and Hunter kind of as these interchangeable DBs,

especially Hunter, who can play truly corner and safety. In my opinion, I have enough size now to match up in these contested situations. I think that that's probably the right pick for you. I thought about Saus Gardner. I did not build my team for him to be a corner. Right. That I would want there,

but I do think that this roster here makes sense for you. So here we go. This is it. Your team versus my team. Tell the people how your team is going to line up. All right, so at quarterback, I have Lamar Jackson. His skill players are Jamar Chase, Jamir Gibbs. Brock Bowers will be snapping him the ball. Okay.

And CD Lam. I do have an option as a substitute if I want with Travis Hunter, but my base offense is Lamar throwing to Jamar Chase, CD Lam, Brock Bowers and Jamir Gibbs. My defense will line up as Fred Warner as the free rusher. Although there is a world where I can actually have in the red zone. If it's at the one or the two yard line, Fred Warner is on the biggest player on the opposite team.

And Travis Hunter, Travis Hunter becomes the free rusher. Travis Hunter gives you a lot of flexibility here. Right. He does. My big corners that can play in man coverage are Patrick Sertan, the second, and Sauce Gardner. My true safety is Xavier McKinney with his incredible ball skills. And then obviously Hunter that I think can play both in man coverage and as a safety. So I have Kyler Murray as my quarterback.

I'm a little bit more straightforward than you. My receivers are Tyree Kill, Justin Jefferson, AJ Brown and Malik neighbors. The more I think about it, the more I like the idea of Tyree Kill being the one to snap the football because it gives him just insane elite two way goes to the left or right with the entire field to work with

and asking a flat footed defender who does not have a leverage play on you, either to the left or right, inside or outside. Asking somebody to not have leverage while covering Tyreek Hill is basically a no win situation. So I'm actually going to have him snap to give him that ability to play into space. My cornerbacks, I'm gonna play zone coverage. I'm gonna have Derek Sing snap to give him that ability to play into space. My cornerbacks, I'm going to play zone coverage.

I'm going to have Derek Singley and Trent McDuffie on the outside to play that sort of like off-quarters coverage. And then Jesse Bates is going to be my roaming over the middle of the field safety. Antoine Winfield Jr. is going to be more of my free safety, although both of those guys can interchange to give the quarterback some looks that they may not be ready for. And then my free rusher is Gerwin James, who obviously gives me flexibility at the safety position as well. We would love to hear from you. This is obviously a very fun exercise for us to

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We're doing all sorts of exclusive content over there. And we will follow you guys back on our individual accounts. This is great. I would love to hear from people, truly. Like this is a ton of fun. I genuinely think that my team would cook your team's ass. But, but, but, I don't want to be drinking my own Kool-Aid over here. I would love to hear from the people as well. I think my team is absolute studs and we could bring home the gold medal.

But I think it would be a good match up here with your team as well. So let us know what you think of our teams. Let us know where you think maybe you would have gone differently, maybe some different players that didn't get prioritized. If there's some snubs here that did not get mentioned or talked about enough or picked, let us know. Hit us up in the comments. The best way to do that.

Connor, you got anything else before we get out of here? No, fun exercise. We love doing these drafts against each other, especially when it's kind of a topical, you know, current event going on in the world. And this is going to create a lot of discussion in not just the short term, but the long term. I think NFL players are going to get really competitive about

this. And I'm kind of excited to end. So will real flag football players get competitive about this? They already have. They already have. As they already have. So I'm really excited to see how this shakes out. But hopefully we gave everybody a little idea today of constructing a team for a flag specific event.

We promise Summer Scouting is coming soon. It's simmering. It is simmering. It's simmering. The film watching has begun. The opinions are starting to form. Not sure if it's gonna be next week week. Maybe the week after we'll see sort of what the schedules and how they line up, but summer scouting is coming soon.

So we will dig into the 2026 NFL draft and start getting into that project very, very soon. We know you guys love that for Connor Rogers. I'm Trevor Sikamas saying, thank you guys so much for watching and listening to the NFL stock exchange podcast. We will see you guys next week.