NFL Stock Exchange: An NFL Draft Podcast - Early 2026 NFL Draft Offensive Tackle Rankings

Episode Date: March 6, 2026

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Trevor Sikkim and Connor Rogers. Back with you guys once again for, man, it's been too long. A positional ranking episode of the show. We have some other things going on. You know, the combine, the preview for the combine. Mock draft here. Mock draft there. Mock draft everywhere.

But now we're getting back to the roots. guys are asking for. And these are specific positional rankings. Today we're talking about offensive tackles. Connor, we wanted to wait a little bit for this one because we wanted to get official. And I use that in full air quotes because, you know, big combine could be lying to us. But we wanted to get some sort of official measurements on a lot of these guys before we talked about him as tackles. But how you doing, my friend?

I'm excited to dig in with you. I'm good, man. The arm length gate continues on. What's real? What's not? Who's blaming Tyrion? Who isn't? On and on it goes.

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And I think it's a different size, shape, style of offensive tackle that can and lean into those different run games. So we'll talk about the strength and weaknesses of all these guys. And as of course we're getting closer to draft day, we'll give some sort of like range predictions for some of these guys of where we could see them going and all that great stuff.

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we will reveal our top tens in order of the first five and then the second five. So, Connor, I believe the animation is always set up for your top five to be revealed first. you can talk about your top five as we reveal those, and then I will talk about my top. Actually, do you want to just reveal both of them pretty quickly? Yeah, I like that. Okay, all right, so let's do that. Tyler the chef, could we see Connors?

Bang, bang. Okay, there we go. So you got JC, all right, I'll let you, you know, I'm not going to talk for you. You talk over your own rankings. All right, so number 10 from me. Well, let me start with this. I see you have Markell Bell at 10 from Miami.

I do indeed. I have him at 11. Okay. And it was tough between him and J.C. Davis for me from Illinois, who's at 10. Nine is Cage Casey from Boise State, who I'm sure there'll be some conversations around as he a tackler, is he a guard. I see you have Caleb Tiernan on your list. I did land on him being a guard for this exercise. I did watch him.

So it'll be interesting to talk about him. I watched about, I'm finally pumping my numbers up. Like, you've been lapping me. I watched 14 guys as tackles and then two I kicked a guard. Look at you. Look at you.

Yeah, you can tell I'm like I've been home for the first time of my life. Yeah, I'm never leaving. Jude Bowery at 9 from Boston College. I think I'd consider one of the pleasant surprises for me. Seven, Maxi Honitcher from Arizona State.

Six, Blake Miller from Clemson. So yeah, there's the 10 to 6. six and this will be an as we have some of the same names and i see you have well the monroe frelink combo is going to be super interesting because i won't skip ahead but i'll just say it's going to be very interesting yes so i have markel bell the offensive tackle from miami the massive six foot nine three hundred forty five pound offensive tackle from miami i have him at number 10 i have drew bowery at number nine so you had him at number eight i've got him at number nine from Boston College. Caleb Tiernan, yeah, I think maybe we'll start with Tiernan here in a second,

but I have him at number eight, the offensive tackle from Northwestern. Monroe Freeling, the offensive tackle from Georgia. I have him at number seven. And then Maxian, ature, the offensive tackle from Arizona State. I've got him at number six. So we'll bounce around like we typically do when we're sort of going through this exercise. But we can start with Tiernan. So Tiernan, what was his official? What was his official measurements here? 32 something, I want to say. He's 32 years old.

32 and a quarter length arms. You guys thought Akeem Messador was old. So he is 6 foot 8, 323 pounds, and then 32 and a quarter inch arm length. So the arm length is no question about it, what you worry about here when it comes to Caleb Tiernan. that's what really matters most. Like when guys are 6 foot 6, 6 foot 7, 6 foot 8, whatever it is, like the higher height,

you're simply hoping that that means that they've got longer arms to them because height is nice, sure, but if it isn't accompanied with the arm length, in fact, it could be seen as almost a double negative, right? Okay, well, you're often losing the leverage battle if you're too tall. And then if you don't pair that with really long arms, then it's kind of a double negative because you're going to lose in the length side of things

and you're going to lose in the leverage side of things. All of that to say, even though I do think that Caleb Tiernan kind of suffers from some of that, he's a really good pass protector. He's a good player. And you see the numbers there on the screen, almost 1,600 snaps from him over the last two years, an elite pass blocking grade, almost an elite pass blocking grade,

at a 89.1 against true pass sets, it's not that much lower. It's an 85.8. Run blocking is where he has more of an issue, right? I mean, I think that the lack of leverage, the lack of ability to really engage his lower half and get leg drive with lower pad level really goes into, especially that gap grade, that man in gap scheme run blocking grade. He just has a hard time pushing people against their will, especially when they can get lower and normally anchor against him. So, That's something that he definitely struggles with. But watching him on the field at the Combine, he moves really well.

And you see that in his tape. You've seen that in his tape for the last couple of seasons because he's been a starter for them. Man, he started five games for them at right tackle in 2022. And then he started all every game at left tackle in 2023, every game at left tackle in 2024, and then the same thing in 2025. So this is a seasoned experienced pass blocker who is incredibly efficient, has that football and basketball background to him.

From the state of Michigan, three star offensive tackle was his recruiting label when he was coming out. But as a past protector, I feel really good about him. But I just don't know how much he's really going to give you in the run game. And the lack of ability to get consistent leverage is also why I struggled, I struggled to put him at guard. You know what I'm saying? It's almost like if he doesn't work at tackle.

I think that might kind of be it. But he's so good at it, Connor, that I feel as though his floor is just a depth offensive tackle that's just around the league for a long, long time. Maybe he doesn't have the chops and the strength as a run blocker to where you have him as a consistent starter. But man, if you, how many backup offensive tackles get in the game in the NFL and you go, oh, this guy's about to get smoked in pass protection. And at least I wouldn't think that with Tiernit.

If he's not the run blocker he needs to be to be a full-time starter, at least I could say if my offensive tackle gets hurt and this guy's got to come in, at least he's not going to get my quarterback killed or at least we hope, you know, depending on how he mitigates with the shorter arms. But that's how I got to him being at number eight here on the list. Yeah, I think that's fair.

with this one, honestly. I was trying to look for, you know, guys that are built like this, but are so tall they're going to have leverage problems when they kick inside. Joe Tipman is interesting because he didn't play tackle in college, but it was a question for him as a prospect. And he was viewed as a center prospect, but he had a breakout year this year at right guard. So he has figured out how to play, watch his pad level and everything.

Wyatt Milam last year, he's six, six and a half. Yeah, and it seems like... Milo's a good call out. Like, he would be kind of what you're hoping for for somebody kicking in. But you're right, Trevor. It's not like Tiernan gets crushed at tackle for the length reasons. He plays really pretty well at tackle. The game that gave me the, like, final nudge of like, eh,

Gabe Accus really, really gave him a hard time. And it was kind of the same thing over and over again. When I watched the losses, I'm like, it's just length. Tiernan is pretty good from a technique standpoint. He's in control. There's just, he's so sought off at that height that an NFL rusher like Accus gave him problems.

And you just wonder if that'll be a theme. So yeah, definitely an interesting one, a very, very solid prospect, as you said. And there'll be a lot of mixed opinions on guard versus tackle for him. Because I like that you highlighted, like, yes, there's an argument to kick him in, like I believe. But it doesn't mean it's not a guarantee that it works. Yeah.

Peter in the chat is talking about Joe Tipman, who obviously you know really well with him being the set. Like, do we think about Tiernan as a potential center? and 6-8 would be a huge center. It's been better at guard. He was just okay at center. He was just okay at center. This year when ABT got hurt,

he played all year at right guard. He was awesome. So it was like, ah, like, okay. Well, maybe he is. I mean, maybe we've got an ability for him to be guard, but it was hard for me to think that he would transition into guard, given how much leverage he loses. But just the guy, the guy moves so well.

and he's so patient and efficient and pass pro. Now, Northwestern, it's going to be different than going up against NFL edge rushers every single week. But I still got some faith in him. At least, like I said, at least I know I'm getting a really, really dependable depth offensive tackle who can play right or left tackle for you. And if he's coming in a pinch,

he's not going to get your quarterback killed. Like, I feel like happens with some of these backup offensive tackles at the NFL level. So I had him in number eight. You had him as a guard, so you didn't have him. in these rankings. Who is next on your list? Who do you want to go?

Because J.C. Davis and Cage Casey just sort of missed my top 10. I actually had Diego Pounds from Ole Miss at number 11. But then J.C. Davis and Cage Casey were actually 12 and 13 for me. So they just missed. Well, let's talk about Casey because you can argue like the combo is not wildly different. Yeah, it's basically the same thing. Because, you know, people might be like, well, Connor has Ternan as a guard, but kept Casey as a tackle. And Casey's 6 foot 6.

His arms are under 33 inches. They're 32 and 3 quarters, so a little longer. And like when I started watching him, I'm like, I know I'm going to say yes to be a guard by the end of this. And by the time I was done watching him, he was just so technically sound and quick enough off the ball that I didn't get there. I was like, no, I think he can survive a tackle at the NFL level in the right system because he moves pretty well. He was quick enough off the ball that agility and stunts didn't consistently beat him. He's someone to me that why he can overcome those limitations is he clearly has a good sense pre-snap and has a plan. Hyper-aware player.

I mean, he made 41 starts at left tackle for Boise State over the last three seasons. Yeah, both these guys who were talking about are very experienced. Very experienced. And you kind of see their smarts play out in their plan that he maximizes whatever length he has. He's got good posture and pass pro. He protects with a pretty flat back. He doesn't lunge a lot. I think when he's asked the drive block, he fires off the ball and always has inside hands.

he doesn't just fire his hands wide. You know, and he's been at Boise State starting left tackle since his red shirt freshman season. So he's seen a lot and he was asked to be a lot early on. And now, you know, once again, like there's an arm length battle here. I think his balance is not great against speed to power because he's not the biggest guy. He, like he's a six foot six, three hundred ten pound tackle. That's, you know, that's some more, it's funny to say, but like leaner looking tackle.

where speed to power might be able to drive underneath you. He can anchor pretty well, though. He can anchor because he's so technically sound. His anchor technique is really nice. Yeah, he just plays with such precise hands and a flat back. He just maximizes every bit of physical ability he has. That it's hard to bet against him. I think that he's quick off the ball,

but that doesn't mean he's quick and dynamic throughout the rep. like his initial quickness is good sometimes speed rushers the longer rep goes will find a way to kind of angle around him and in the zone running game he didn't sustain his blocks as well as you'd like but once again just so technically polished experienced and smart that i would love to draft him as a depth offensive lineman because i think he'll just be able to survive with how high IQ of a player he is yeah i would agree with that i i think i feel better about him making the transition to guard for a couple of reasons. One of them being he wants to be physical.

Like he wants to be physical with you. He does not shy away from that, which is something that I love about him. And the issues that I have with Casey really are exclusive to tackle play, where I don't think his feet are slow because you got to have quick feet to be a guard, right? I think a lot of people will be like, oh, this guy's got heavy feet as a tackle. Let's kick him inside.

No, no, no, you've got to have quick feet as a guard. you've got to think about how quickly these rushers can get hands on you so you've got to be able to work your feet you got to be able to keep them underneath you got to be able to be balanced so you do still have to have to have quick feet as a guard casey has quick feet what i don't love about him is pairing the really short arm length with the fact that i don't think he gets a lot of stretch in his kickslides like you'll see his feet moving quickly to sort of like shuffle and try to get to a landmark in his kickslides but he doesn't have that we'll talk about this with monroe freeling freeling's got this big long stretch of a kickslide where it takes him three total strides and he's basically exactly where he needs to be in a 45 degree set or even a vertical set dropping straight down past where his where his starting point is at the line of scrimmage so that the limited stretch and mobility that he has in his kick slides you get to mitigate both that and the arm length issues when you are a guard. So I kind of, the fact that he's like 310, let's get you up to like 315, 320.

And let's put you in a guard because I think he is a good man in gap scheme downhill run blocking player. I just think that his weaknesses are a little too much at tackle, which is why he was outside of my top 10. Yeah. So he snuck in mine at 9. I'll be quick on J.C. Davis at 10. Okay.

Davis is another one of these guys that has played a ton of football. Mm-hmm. He transferred from New Mexico, fifth year senior, a little more compact than a lot of these guys. He's a hair under 6'4. And he's 32 pounds, so he carries a lot of mass. He's a big dude. And he's got 34 and a quarter inch arms. So he's got pretty long arms for his height.

He's almost the inverse of all the guys we've been breaking down. I know he is. I like Davis a good amount. Like there's one thing that I really don't like about him, but keep going. And I'll talk about that in a second. So to end his college career. career, he made 49 consecutive starts. Like, that's Iron Man galore.

He started two years at left tackle for New Mexico, two years at left tackle for Illinois. He's just big. He's just a big guy. And because of that, when you watch him take on power rushers, he drops his hips to stall them consistently. It's a guy that's very hard to generate power against. And that's why despite the arm length, I bet a lot of people are really good. going to like him as a guard because his strengths kind of play to the interior.

He has a brawler mentality in the run game. Like you watch him in man and inside zone, those phone booth kind of runs. It's a very high success rate because he just overwhelms people in the fight. You see his face mask there. He's got a little like extra to him. Oh, he's got nastiness to him. I love him in the downhill run game. I absolutely love him as a man in gap scheme.

Yes. Again, we'll talk about sort of the issue that I have with them, but 81st percentile when it comes to negatively graded run plays, that means much less. 81st percentile is a good thing. So very few negatively graded run blocking plays from J.C. Davis. Yeah, he's very good in the run game. Like, this would be, I would imagine a Sean McVeigh kind of guard, I would think.

Modern day Sean McVeigh, yes. New Age Sean McVeigh. that said, Yes, the zone game is for the air raid boys. I'm a tough guy now. I love his evolution. We haven't run any of that woozy shit around here anymore. I don't know what happened to him, but it happened fast.

I'll tell you what happened. He got baptized on the line of scrimmage in that 2017 Super Bowl by Bill Belichick, and it spooked the crap out of him. And he's been trying to work to be one of the power players in the league ever since. It's so true. So once again, with that head to toe, power and his mass. This is someone that could really drive players off the ball. Now, let's get into some of the weaknesses. He's my 10th offensive tackle. He has very mediocre quickness in his

pass sets where outside, with speed rushers, they beat his outside shoulder too often. They do. And he has length, but it doesn't matter. They still beat the outside shoulder because I just don't think he's quick enough. He is a leaner and a wide-hand striker. And the hands. The beauty of it is, like we talked up the brawler nature. He comes out of the corner after the, like the trainer's just been yapping to him and giving him water and trying to get the swelling down. And he just starts throwing.

And in the run game, it's freaking awesome. In pass protection, it's high variance. It's high variance. And that's not what you want all the time. In 2024, he had an egregious amount of false starts and holds. He got that in check in 2025,

which was awesome. see, but like it goes back to the like the lack of control sometimes. So I understand where your concerns are because for some coaches, they'll be a little bit of a non-negotiable. I really do like a lot of what he brings to the table and his potential. The biggest issues with me stem from yes, sort of the lateral ability in pass protection. I think that that is an issue. Although I think that he has the arm like to sometimes make and the power, honestly, to be able to make up for that. the hands man when you watch him

you can kind of see it in the stance that he has in that picture right there when he's in his stance he puts his hands on his knees and his elbows are flared out and when the ball is snapped it's like he all he does

he like he raises his hands out to here and so many times the defenders in front of him just go okay and they just completely go straight into his chest with no, yeah, with like no, with no defense from him. Like it's just, it's way too easy. And the hands from him are often like in passenger texture. They're often like, you know, he's trying to like grab at the shoulders instead of grabbing his side. If we can somehow get him

to be comfortable tucking his shoulders in or tucking his elbows in, I think we've got a really good football player here. So to me, he has to fix that because as of right now, it's, were how many years into this with him as a starter, and that's sort of the style in which he plays, I have to kind of take him for what he is, but if we can get an offensive line coach to get him to tuck his elbows in and be a little bit closer

and protect his chest a little bit more, have even a little bit more power because his elbows are tucked in like that. I feel like you've got a good potential offensive tackle, but I do need to see that part of it. Had some people in the chat want to read a couple of these really quick. Brennan said, so she's lying to me when she says that length doesn't matter.

If she's talking about offensive tackles and she's giving you her offensive tackle rankings, yes. But other things could be a little bit different. You know, they do say that length isn't everything. But, you know, I just wanted to make sure that we said that. Peter said, I might be getting ahead of myself here, but I'm guessing that you guys have Brian Parker listed as an interior offensive lineman. I would have Brian Parker as an interior offensive line. Yes.

Okay. Okay. Just wanted to make sure there. There was one more. I thought there was one more. Maybe not. Maybe not. Anyways.

Okay. All right. Oh, somebody said, somebody said he, who is, the Caleb Tiernan was the Mike Evans of Dan Skippers, which you're kind of on to something there. That's not, that's not, that's not, it's not too far off. It's not like, it sounds like a joke, but it's not. Wait, wait, Duncan said J.C. stands for jeopardizes the chest. Oh. Gosh, you maniac.

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and you would love to support the show by just creating one and subscribing, it would really mean the world to us. We appreciate you guys. Thank you so much for listening to the show on audio. Let's get back to the episode. All right, let's get back into the top 10 here. So I had Markell Bell at number 10.

Massive offensive tackle prospect from Miami. Again, he is 6'9. He is 245 pounds. Massive wingspan to him as well. Simply put, the reason why he's in number 10, just like I talked about with Caleb Banks, they don't make many of them like Markel Bell. Now, the big issues for him is exactly what we

saw at the Senior Bowl when Derek Moore got some leverage on him and was able to fork lift him straight back onto his heels and onto his butt. That happens when you're six foot nine if you are not conscious of the leverage that somebody in front of you might be able to have. But there's a lot of reps where he is just imposing against defensive linemen where he is able to move these guys off the ball incredibly well. He's able to anchor against power very, very well. A ton of potential there. And so if you were into the the potential of like a guy like Duan Jones when he was coming out, then this is sort of,

this normally isn't my cup of tea, but I like Markell Bell more than I like DeWan Jones when he was coming out of Ohio State. And Jones has been given the opportunity to start in the NFL. I think Bell will be as well simply because of the size. If he can continue to be more conscious of making sure that guys aren't getting the upper hand with a lot of leverage on him, I think that he could be really successful.

So he's somebody. where just the strength and the physical parts of the game, you cannot check those boxes any more emphatically than what Markell Bell does. And for me, that's why he ended up at number 10 for me. He has a rep against Ole Miss in the first quarter where he goes full blindside rep on somebody and just buries them. And you could just see, you know, his six foot nine, 346 pound, almost 37-inch arms. It's like you said, Travis, there's just not a lot of humans built like this

where a team is going to look at him and go, can you be Orlando Brown Jr? Right, because we'll make the rest work. Exactly. You know, so, yeah, I really, really enjoyed watching him. I think he, it's almost a shame he went viral for one rep at the senior bowl because it doesn't represent who he is at all. By the way, I had Derek Moore at the Combine and I brought it up.

And Derek more quickly was, because, you know, he was happy about it. but he was like, that's a good player. And he rebounded after that. He got his revenge, yes. He made sure to give Markell Bell like a lot of credit of like, do not let that rep define him. He is a good player that bounced back from that. I was like, number one, that's cool to see.

And two, I totally agree. Bell got that weird rep from, got that, you know, one viral moment that didn't look good for him. But the full sample size is so much better than that. I think the goal is now Trenton Brown's a little different because like Brown has played guard and I am not super confident in Bell playing guard, but at tackle, that's sort of the size and stature that you would want. And Brown has been good in the NFL at tackle, not always, but he has had success in the NFL due to a lot of that size. Let's touch on Jude Bowery really

quick because he was in both of our rankings. He was nine for me. He was eight for you. You talked about being pleasantly surprised by this player. What do you like about Jude Bower? from Boston College. Well, number one, Bowery has pretty good tape against T.J. Parker. That was, I noticed Bowery

when watching T.J. Parker months ago, because I was like, the Boston College left tackle, who's having some tough moments throughout this game, when he goes against T.J. Parker, he's in control.

So that jumped out to me right away. He tested pretty well with the 34 and a half inch of her and the 9-7 broad. And that's kind of, of an easy way to kick it off for the two-year starter at left tackle for Boston College. He's well built. He's got big hands and he tested well. The explosive testing shows up in his pass sets. Agreed 100%. Yes. Right? Like you look at it like, yeah, I should have known that you were

going to kind of test that way because you look that way into your pass sets. I mentioned the T.J. Parker matchup and he generates, he utilizes that explosiveness in the run game where he knows how to fire off the ball and drive from his legs consistently. to generate momentum in inside zone. I thought he was phenomenal as an inside zone run blocker. Now, you get to some of the, I mean, he's almost got 11-inch hands. So when he lands on you, like, you're going places.

The punch timing and the placement in pass pro is inconsistent. It is. It's not, if he works on that a little bit, he's so physically gifted, he'll really become a more consistent pass protector and he's not right now. The spacing in his past sets lack consistency, and it leads to openings on the edges.

Like, he'll take some short sets, and guys will recognize that and try to, you know, expose that outside shoulder with those short sets. And he's so explosive, he doesn't have to do that. So it's probably a guy that could use a little bit more playing. Like, we've been talking about four-year starters and three-year starters.

He was a two-year starter at Left Tackle for Boston College. Yeah. I think in the run game, I mentioned how much he could generate from the leg drive and the momentum, but he doesn't always stay square and in control. And when he doesn't do that, defenders, they slip his blocks or shed his blocks. So it's almost like a guy that you need to dial down a notch to get the best version of him. He's almost a victim of being so explosive.

What did you think? Yeah, I thought he was, I thought he was really stand out in the finesse parts of the game where I wasn't worried about his athleticism at all. There were times when I worried that he was a little out of control, sort of what you were mentioning, both in his feet and with his hands. But ultimately, what worries me the most with Bowery is I think he just needs to get stronger in general, like upper body strength in particular, because he didn't have a lot of displacement strength when it came to run blocking.

He 63.5 overall PFF grade in a man in gap scheme run blocking concepts. Now it was better against zone because I think he's much more of a zone offensive tackle, with 73.1 run blocking grade against zone. You see on true pass sets, though, I mean, like, that's a really good number for him and who he was as a pass protector there. I just think they didn't think that he was a big difference maker when it came to moving people off the ball.

And then even when I would watch him mirror offense or defensive linemen really well, if they got hands on him and they were trying to be physical with whatever their counter was, I felt like Bowery had a difficult time holding on. So it's like total upper body strength, grip strength. He did a really nice job of being able to stay in front of guys, but then maintaining those blocks I felt like he struggled with. So this is a smooth athlete type of a player that you

probably draft mid-round, you know, third, fourth round, something like that. And then you're hoping that you develop, get him a little bit stronger. And I really do think that we could have an underrated starting caliber player in a offense that likes to get their offensive linemen on the move a little bit more, whether it's a lot of pulling, whether it's, you know, heavy, mid and outside zone, those kinds of things. But I see it sounds like we viewed him sort of the same way. For sure.

Okay. Do we want to do Eonature next? Since he's the constant here that we have in the group, he's the common denominator. I have him at number six. You have him at number seven. So Max Eonature, who's getting some first. round hype after a really good showing at the senior bowl as well as the combine what do we think

about maxianature yeah so this is somebody that goes back to summer scouting i believe we had a pretty extensive combo about him i actually want to see i add him in summer scouting around tackle 10 so a nice little climb free hunter going to tackle seven um and i think it's you know all right Let's just do the full rundown again, because I understand not everybody's here for summer scouting. Transferred from East Los Angeles Juko, and that was, he was a pretty big prospect in the Juko portal. Yeah, but before that, you got to go, you got to go before that. He was born in Nigeria. That's right.

He was born in. He was born in. He was pretty late. Until he was 13. Yeah. That's late. He played soccer and basketball in high school. He never played football until he showed up at the, at Juko, at East.

Los Angeles College. He had never played football until he showed up on campus. I mean, it's totally nuts. And that's why you give him some grace for some of his shortcomings. Totally. By the way, this goes back to Armgate because I just can't let it go. I had spring measurements on him that were over 34-inch arms and over nine-inch hands. At the combine, he had under 34-inch arms and nine-inch hands.

Now. What's going on here? No, no. Nine inch hands? Nope. Yeah, no. No. I, I,

Anyway. Nope. Nope. Nope. Rubin's got 38 inch arms. Yeah. I've often said this. Yes.

This is just a giant conspiracy to make him fall in the draft. You can't tell me otherwise. No, I, uh, the combine measurements are strange, man. They're a little, there. And it's across the board, right? Because we had Cassius Howell, who we knew was going to have short arms, right? We knew that that was going to happen. But 30 and a fourth inch arms was the shortest of any edge rusher ever.

Until Caden Curry, who had 30 and 1 eighth inch arms, which was the shortest ever. And it's just like, could it happen? Yeah, sure. But what's the odds that the shortest two edge rush arm lengths ever are in the same class? I don't know, man. But everyone's running a 4-3. It's fishy to me. It's fishy to me.

So the player, pretty impressive athlete. I mean, you go 4-9-1 at 3-22. That's folks what we call a freight train coming down the tracks. You mentioned being late to football. Trevor, he was a reserve player in 2023 for Arizona State. He started all of 2024 and 2025 at right tackle, size, mass length. You know, there's a consistent effort on that inside punch to stop momentum. Like I see it on tape where he wants to utilize his 34 plus inch arms to stall rushers momentum.

He's naturally strong. He has active hands to kind of reset the hands. You watch him move when they run outside zone or they want him to climb. you see the athleticism on tape. Like that guy that big is not always supposed to look like that. And this is like I know there's the late to football background, but it's a natural violent mindset when they want it, when they've had them pull.

Like how some guys are just born to do it and are about that life. Maxi Hanachure is absolutely about that life. He's still lacking refinement and discipline in his game. I counted at least four or five holding penalties this year. And it's just wide hands. Because he's aggressive, but when the hands get wide, like he's learning. I said they're active, but they're not always resetting the right way. And he'll grab.

2024, a couple of false starts. And it feels, and it got better this year. But when you watch it, it felt like he knew the edge rusher was fast and was trying to get that classic jump. So you're a great athlete. Like trust your athleticism. He's getting better at landing on his targets when blocking on the move. Once again, like violent mindset and great athlete. I always go back to having this combo with Kelvin Banks

because he was a great example of this for a really good player. And Banks was open to like, sometimes he'd get out in front of the second level and just want to knock someone's head clean off their body. And it's like when you do it, it's the sickest thing in the world. Right. But sometimes you don't have to do that.

And you just got to land on the target because you're a big man against a smaller man that's going to go places. And I think I think I Hanachua is still kind of learning his way with that. So he's not sustaining his run box consistently yet. But you nailed it. Like when you look at the background, it's all there for him that it's easy to buy into. I think that him and Freeling, who I have right here at number seven and then also number six, I think both of these guys are incredibly talented with a lot of athletic potential who I think the technique of both of these guys, the consistency of both of them could use some work. When it comes to Janature, I could not have been more impressed with who he was on day two and day three of senior world practices.

I mean, I barely saw him lose reps in one-on-one situations. The way that this man at, how big was he? 320 plus pounds was able to be light on his feet, balanced, have his feet underneath them, chop his feet, have good kickslides to him as well, just to mirror all different sorts of edge rushers, handle power very well. It felt like him anchoring power was effortless

because he feels like a dense 320 pounds. I bet he plays even heavier. He was born strong. Like some guys need to live in the weight room. He was born strong. He came out of the womb. with weight room strength. And I'm telling you, the only reason why he is not even more of a force in the downhill run game

is because he's not as consistent and as conscious with his pad level. Like there are a lot of times where I'm watching him be basically just straight up and just like trying to push somebody because he's got to the upper body strength to do it. He's got to get more flexible and he's got to get lower to be able to drive people with his legs. And when he does and you see it like that, it's imposing. It's just that along with the hand placement. A lot of times his hands are just high. Like he's aiming really high.

Like he's aiming for the shoulders and he'll miss the shoulders and the hands will go too high. And then he's exposing his chest and he's getting manipulated by rushers who have a little bit more of a pass rush plan. But I think that I couldn't be more impressed with where he is four years into his football career. Four years. This is the player that we're getting. I have a hard time thinking he gets out of the top 40. I have a hard time thinking that he is outside of the top 40. Someone is going to take this player,

and I think they're going to develop a starting caliber offensive tackle. So very excited to see him in the NFL. Somebody in the chat mentioned he's, I don't know. I don't think Max is 21, so I don't know where they're getting this number. There's no way he is. Somebody in the chat said, a red shirt senior at the age of 21,

bro's the young Sheldon of Iki Aquanus. I don't have his age, but that would be pretty surprising for a fifth year. No, I don't, I don't think he's, I don't think he's, I don't think he's 21 years old. Okay, before we do Monroe Freeling, every week on draft risers, folks, we're highlighting players climbing up draft boards as teams get deeper into the evaluation process. These guys are rising because decision makers are getting more confident in the full profile, not just chasing the traits. Our draft riser over the last couple of weeks has been Sony Styles,

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So I think we're close to the same conversation here. So you've got him at 5 and then we can see the rest of the list there. You've got Lomwood 4, Proctor's at 3. Now we know is it 2. and then Spencer Fano is it number one. You can just reel my 5, Tyler, so we can just see that. And then we'll talk about Monroe Freeling. Low Moose 5 for me, Proctor's 4, Maui Noah is 3, Blake Miller is 2,

and then Spencer Fonno is number 1. So let's talk about Freeling, and then we'll probably have to talk about Blake Miller, who you have at 6 and then I have it 2. But thoughts on Freeling, who after the combine is just skyrocketed on the average draft position when it comes to the PFF mock draft simulation, bitter. I see, I basically cannot find a mock draft that has him getting out of the top 15 at this point. So you've got him at five. I've got him at seven. Thoughts on Monroe Freeling. Let's give the people a little bit of a background for one of the biggest risers since the combine. Yeah, I mean, Georgia's starting left

tackle this year, he played a little bit in 2024, but this was his first year as a full-time starter, the former four-star recruit. So, that's why the late rise is that you probably didn't hear a lot of people talking about him in summer scouting because there simply wasn't a lot of tape. I mean, obviously a big enough recruit on a program that churns out offensive line, turns out trench players into the NFL. Now, the how we got here with Freeling, I mean, he's big with long arms, right? So like number one in a tackle class, and you're going to see it with our number one tackle. And we've had the conversation at the back end of the top 10.

A lot of the combos around the guys in this class are, are they NFL tackles? And Monroe Freeling is never going to have that be the first thing that's discussed when, you know, you're in a draft room. I'm not going to say his height, but he's 315 pounds. He's quite tall. He's got 34. You're a better man than I.

He's got almost 35 inch arms and 10 and 3 quarter inch. I guess it's just a big human. Right away when I started watching him, I went back to a player that I did not like many, many drafts ago. I would like to say I was not very wise, especially that early in this process. Colton Miller. Yeah, that's, I mean, that's the player that if you believe in Monroe Freeling,

you're just going to keep pointing to Colton Miller, who is very much panned out at the NFL level. Now we have had a lot of Colton Miller prospects that do not. Correct. Turn into Colton Miller. Like Colton Miller out of UCLA was not what he became with the Raiders. And credit to them and him for him really tapping into his ceiling and being a damn good tackle. But you're right, Trevor.

If you're taking Freeling in the top 15, that is the trajectory that you're looking at. He uses his length to strike first. Like when rushers get off the ball, he wants to use those 35-ish inch arms to be the, you know, the guy that's kind of setting the tone of the rep of I don't want to. react. I want you to react to my first move. The snatch and trap from him is pretty sick. I mean, you watch the Florida tape, and it's like he's mastered the ability of the snatch and trap against guys, which NFL refs call holding on too much drives me. That's, um, now what a prospect like this, what's very, very important is where is the momentum for them? I thought

pass pro the last six games of the year for Georgia looked different than the beginning of the season for him as a full time starter like there was growth there there was a calmness there was a consistency there was a competence where I'm sure that played into his feedback of like hey man you're going to be a top 20 pick if you're going to draft as a junior coming out yeah absolutely because if you play another year like you did the last six games in pass pro

you're going to be a top 10 pick. Like you just, guys that are, it's not enough guys like this in the league. Everybody's looking for tackles like this with this kind of ability. Totally. Now everybody's sitting there is probably going, Connor has him at five.

Trevor has them at seven. We've seen them in mock drafts as recent as ours and, you know, the top 10. What should I be concerned about? He's still raw because he hasn't played a ton. He leans and lunges in pass pro when there's more space.

I'm wondering if you saw this too, who's like, I'm on an island. It's me against that guy. It's not close corridors. He loves the arm length and tools he has, but he gets aggressive. And he'll lean forward or lunch, and that can lead to whiffs.

He, his initial ability to take on power is fine. He's not somebody like the contact. It's like he's all over the place. There's guys who balance issues in this class. That's not it. when the stalemate starts from the initial contact, I thought his anchor got a little exposed sometimes

where you see the lower half strength is still growing. I agree. Where it's like, okay, we're locked in now, but I got strength of an experienced player. I can push you into the pocket if you want this to be a stalemate. He almost wants to avoid the initial stalemate because when he's locked into that,

I saw him slide backwards. sometimes. In the run game, going back to that strength he's developing, the control and technique, I thought was all still a work in progress. Leverage, hand placement, that's in the tight quarters where, you know, the hands don't always strike in the right place. He's big. He's tall.

Players get underneath his pads. So his problems, in large part, are because of his youth and lack of experience. Totally. But I have evaluated a lot of tackles in my life that have had that. be written up about them that go in the top 15. And it's not a guarantee it gets better. So he's a talented player with all of the physical ability that NFL teams desire at this position.

But there is also a world where if he doesn't improve in some of these areas that he's not worthy of that pick. And I'm personally not willing to take that risk. I liked him a lot in that 30 to 40 range that we just talked about with the Hanature. I don't think it's fair to say the combo is the same when you're using a top 15 pick.

Yeah. No, I think that we see him very, very similarly. To me, a lot of the issues in his game that I felt like showed up pretty consistently, you can write them off as he just doesn't have a lot of experience because he started this past season. He started, I think, four or five games the year before. That's right. And that's about it.

And you can chalk a lot of that up because a lot of the issues that I have with him, none of it is really from a physical perspective. I would also like to see him get a little bit stronger and anchor a little bit better. Like, yes, I would like to see that more from him. But for him to be, I mean, what's it going to be? 21, 22 at the bed of the oldest, you know, because he's a true junior going into the league. I think there's a lot of teams that are going to say like, yeah, give me that guy and we'll develop him. Because the biggest issues that I have from Monroe Freeling is a lot of feel stuff and a lot of how he approaches the game.

It just doesn't seem very patient at times. It seems very overaggressive. he wants to get hands on guys. It made him susceptible. The inside moves, inside counter, certain, like, like a ghost move or a dip and, like, whatever, like a different kind of like dip variation that guys will have, whether it is a ghost move or, you know,

maybe they're trying to like club rip and trying to just get underneath because they're waiting for those hands to flash and boom. Now we're knocking them away and we're dipping and ripping around the edge. Like whatever that looks like. It felt like that happened with him a good amount when he was losing. It just didn't feel as though he was very patient. He doesn't have a very patient style to him. And I get nervous about players like that.

It's just I agree with you. I used to be of the thought process of look at the tools that this player has, just draft them high if they have all these tools. And a lot of times the NFL does think that way about a lot of players, right? We talk about this player all the time on this podcast, but like look at Lucas Van Ness, look at Tyree Wilson, right? Like guys who had all of these physical tools, who you just said they haven't produced, we'll figure it out in the NFL.

And if you've got issues in college, there's just no guarantee that it gets so much better when you get to the league. Now, Colt Miller's obviously a great example of it working out. Brian O'Neill, I think, was like similarly built as well where like he's somebody who really worked out. I can't remember Bernard Ryman's measurable specifically, but like really good athlete that, again, really worked out in the NFL. But then you've got like Eric Fisher's an example, Eric Winston's an example.

Eric Winston's an example where it's just like guys who were picked high who just did not translate well to the NFL even with that sort of like size advantage and athleticism advantage that you thought that they were going to have. Where did, no, actually, where did this guy get drafted? Was he high? No, I don't think he was drafted really high. Who am I trying to, who am I thinking of here? Where was Anthony Costanzo drafted? No, he was a first rounder, wasn't he? Because he's another one that worked out. He was.

He went 22nd overall in 2011. So like Costanzo, like I think is another buddy who is, he's somebody else who is of this archetype. And there are a lot of examples that worked. There are a lot of examples that didn't. And with Freeling, I would easily still draft this player in the second round. And I'd feel great about it. Yeah. But it is a different conversation with drafting him at number six.

And that's just true rich for me for some players. that I like a little bit better than him with where they currently are going in to the NFL. So there you go. I want to hear you break down Blake Miller. Okay. Blake Miller's my boy. Oh, yeah. I like Blake Miller a lot.

So he's a true senior. He was on our radar two years ago when he was entering his true junior year when he was become a draft eligible. Of course, his past year was summer scouting. And then we're revisiting him again now that he is in the class. I remember two years ago watching Blake Miller and he is somebody who two years ago when I watched him

very clearly I knew he needed to get a lot stronger but the build the arm length the patience the IQ everything when it came to past protection the footwork how balanced he was how in control he was how fluid I felt like he moved it all just seemed like such a

style that you want to buy into. Just this controlled player with the height, the length that you want at the position. And I just gravitated towards that a lot a couple of years ago when I think I had him like top three in

summer scouting like two years ago. But then over the last two years, it just feels as though nobody was talking about Blake Miller. And I was like, all right, maybe I'm taking crazy pill. I guess. Like maybe I just have no idea what I'm looking at with this player.

And now it feels like a lot of guys are getting eyes on him and they're appreciating his game. Now he has gotten stronger over the last two years, which has been great. But he was a state championship wrestler when he was in high school. He played offensive and defensive line. He was the three-star offensive tackle from Strongsville, Ohio, by the way. So you knew that the strength was going to get there for him. It's in his blood. he has started

54 games he started his true freshman season at Clemson and he has started for each of the last four years I think that he has the demeanor that you want as an offensive tackle even though the strength and physical parts of his game

weren't quite there yet I think a lot of them are there now his hands I feel are so patient to know when to either dictate the rep or sit back and be the one who's reacting to a pass rush move. I love the posture in which he plays. He plays with a flat back and an upright chest to where it just feels as though he can conjure all sorts of power from the lower half at any time he wants.

So much of the build and the play style from him just gives me a lot of faith that power at the NFL level is going to be very interesting. I think the first two years for Blake Miller are going to be very, very interesting for him because there is a world where he just cannot handle bull rushes at the NFL level. But I think that he is going to take his lumps early in those first two years. And I think that he is going to adjust for it. And you're going to get a damn good starting caliber offensive tackle in Blake Miller. So the athleticism at the Combine, what he was able to showcase at his size was fantastic as well because what was his, what was his official measurements here?

What was he? He measured in at six. Nope. 317, 34 and a quarter inch arms, nine and three quarter hands. Not today. So he's got the size. He's got the length. He's got the mentality.

He's got the play style. His play strength is getting better. There's so much to like about this player. I just have a lot of faith in the style that he has. The one thing that I'm worried about is unfortunately an absolute killer at the NFL level because if you cannot handle power, you're just not going to last very long. But I think that he'll be able to grow from it. And I think that he'll be able to still get stronger in the NFL.

And I think you'll get a starting caliber offensive tackle. I really do. Another guy absolutely abused by the arm measure, 35 inches over spring, 34 and a quarter now. That's not even close. Unbelievable. Unbelievable. I get to watch. I'm not asking for AI to take anybody's jobs,

but we got to get some consistency here. There's a problem here. We got to get some consistency here. We should invent a machine that does it. Like a robot. You know, I think of any of a movie where everything goes wrong. I was just about to say, there's movies made about this. Of course, I haven't watched any of them,

but there are movies. I've been made aware of this. Blake Miller has very, very long arms. You could see it on tape. You know, you know what made me really, like, what helped him grow on me? Was that I just love his mentality in the run game. Because he looks like a finesse tackle. He wants to be mean.

Yes. Oh, yeah. Oh, yeah. He wants to be mean. Absolutely. Aggressive, fiery. Leverage got better over time. I just, my big.

question is exactly what you brought up. I'm just emphasizing a little further in my rankings is he he gets jolted off balance sometimes by power rushers and it's hard for him when that happens in the second phase to recover. It's like whoa and the balance goes because it's because of the lower half. Some guys just have that oak tree that sticks into the ground and they recover faster from being knocked off balance. I think we have four years of tape that it's gotten a lot better to put him in this combo. Like Blake Miller is going in the top 40, I would think. Yeah.

Where, you know, you look a couple of years ago, and I don't know if that was the projected pathway for him. So. And maybe it gets better at the NFL level from that regard. He's a starting right tackle. He, I think he's a starting right tackle in the NFL. That's a big compliment to anyone. Yeah.

Yeah. And if he gets, and if he gets a little stronger, if he get a little bit more sand in the pants. I think you feel really good about this player. He's got a better floor than some of the guys I have ahead of him. Oh, sure. Yeah, I think I think so is a player. A lot of this is ceiling bets right here. Yeah. Yeah. There's a lot of, and there's, it's always case by case. It's not like I always gravitate towards the guys who have higher floors versus the guys who have higher ceilings, but like in this instance, I like Blake Miller more than I like Monroe Freeling, you know, and I would take Blake Miller before I took Monroe Freeling, obviously, with my rankings the way that they are.

But that's not always the case. It's kind of a, it's always a little different when you get to different positions and different players. Who we hitting on next? Caleb Lomu time? Sure. Yeah. I have him, Caleb Lomu.

I have him tackle four. You have him tackle five. Perfect. Yep. Our rankings are pretty much the same after this, except for I had Miller at two. Yeah. So that pushed the other guys down. But other than that, we got the same order.

Lomo, a very young prospect in this draft. I believe he just turned 21. I know somebody, he's Richard sophomore. Yeah, because his birthday wasn't online. So I just straight up asked him before we did the interview. And I'm pretty sure he just turned 21. And it was, it was his birthday on that day. And he was like, oh, yeah, thank you.

You don't even say happy birthday. He just asked my age. Thanks. Just skipping right to the negative. Thanks, man. How old are you? How old are you? 22.

And you caught yourself a prospect. Oh, man. I don't think we can use the word prospect with you, brother. You're over the hill. You're not developing into anything. If you get a one-year minimum deal, lucky you. Yeah, you're going to sign for the vet minimum. That is not true for Caleb Lomu, who has a really promising future ahead of him.

He is young. he's got a good build for this position. I'm not going to say his height, but he's 313 pounds. He's got bigger. That's pretty good weight added on. Yeah. Think about 6'4, but then three more inches on his height. That's what we're talking about.

Oh, actually, no, I lied. He's 6-6. Oh, he's okay. Yeah, I had to double check that. Now I'm so scarred by it. I'm like, I'm playing the chat already said, we've got them. Like, they're in fear of us now. Yes, rent-free.

Oh, my goodness. Matt said 22. who you could be the janitor. Good Lord. It's gone too far. He is just an exceptional athlete at this size. Like everything is so smooth and quick with Caleb Lomo. He's got the foot speed.

You just watch him move. That dancing bear really is. The foot speed helps him mirror and recover both inside and outside. Guys that are twitchier. and can bend. He's going to be able to naturally deal with them in a way that some guys just physically can't. I think that he's done a pretty good job.

Like you see the penalties there across the last two years and keep in mind that that was his age 19 and 20 seasons playing left tackle. There's not a lot of penalties across two years of tape because he's just, he's good at not, it's weird to say good at not holding. He's good at operating in the hand fight. Like you can readjust.

just they're active. I think what it is, Trev, is that some guys are independent operators in their upper and lower half. And some guys are so smooth in their lower half that their hands and lower half are in sync. And I think for such a young player, he is, he's getting there already where he's like Monroe Freeling, you're going to enjoy projecting him. Like that raw athleticism is going to fit in his own running game. But that also brings up my biggest what if with him.

Just everything in the run game is almost full developmental phase. It's the pad level. It's the technique, the consistency with his hand usage. And when your pad level runs high, like you miss your target. He can get caught leaning at times, but I thought that really improved in 2025. That's the holdup with Lomu is it's a matter of what he can be, not necessarily what he is, But at this age, and to be that gifted athletically, to already have that kind of floor and ceiling as a pass protector,

it's just kind of leaning in that he's going to get stronger and physically mature as a run blocker. But he's not there yet in that aspect of the game. Yeah, again, a lot of the physical things that you would want from Caleb Lomo, you see. I mean, he's filling out his frame super well over the last couple of years. He's getting stronger. I think he's getting quicker. The technique is getting better.

He's got a physical mentality and a finishing mental. I mean, when he has the opportunity to bury defensive linemen into the dirt, he does it, which I love from him. I think he's got good eyes for more pressure is coming from. I think his awareness took a jump up this past season. Pretty good core strength, pretty good balance. Like everything just seems to be universally getting better for Caleb Lomu. I know Nate Tice, one of our favorites in the industry, he had Lomu.

I think he might have had Lomu either tackle one or maybe he's still right around that tackle one. And like when I see that, I was like, all right, obviously that's a little too rich for me. It's a little too rich for you as well. But it's hard to not look at Lomu as a redshirt sophomore heading in the NFL and not think that like, man, you're getting a starting caliber player. And who knows where the ceiling is. Exactly.

You just keep getting better and keep getting better and keep getting better. So Lomu to me is all potential, but in the best way. Like I don't think that this is a boom or bust type of a potential. It's more of a, I like where you're at right now. And I just think that it's only going to get better. The question is just how many more steps up the ladder do we have with him? But it's hard to not really lean into what he's able to do. I think he's a really talented player who has an all-around game.

And I just think all parts of that game are just getting better with him. Well, this is what I don't get. Why is Caleb Lomu a projected top of day two end around one pick? And we could have Monroe fruing in the top 15. What was, well, I think he's not, his arm length's not as long as Freelings. No. I think his hands are a little bit smaller.

But I mean, yeah, I mean, like they're both good athlete. To your credit. He's younger. The question that you are asking, there are a bunch of offensive tackles that I would take in this class within the top 40, right? I think a lot of people, because this is just how the game goes, are going to look at numerical rankings of like,

specifically like where we have Freeling, like, where I have Miller and like a lot of that stuff. But truth be told, there's a lot of good promise with basically the top seven offensive linemen. And I think that they all deserve to sort of be talked about in the same way. And Lomu is somebody where if you were a team that needed an offensive lineman, like if Lomu goes 21 to the Steelers, I don't hate that. It's probably the earlier part of like his range of what we've talked about for Caleb

Lomu as a late first, early, early second round player. but I can make you a case why as a developmental guy, you feel pretty good about that down the road. So to your point, yeah, I feel like the conversations need to be a lot closer with some of these guys, and it just doesn't seem like that's the case right now. All right.

Next up. Caden Proctor? I think it's time to talk about the big fella. So Caden Proctor, one, he weighed in at 352. Playing weighted Alabama, it looked like it was somewhere between 360 and 370. So the fact that he weighed in at 352, I feel really great about that.

What I would love is I would love for him to keep losing a little bit more of that weight and play more at a 340. And it's less of a play style thing from him. Like some people are saying like, hey, does he have the footwork to be able to play tackle? And maybe that's the case that he doesn't because I still go back and forth of whether I like, whether or not I like him best as a guard or a tackle. But he played really well down the stretches and offensive tackle this past year.

And I think that's worth the shout out from him. he is I mean he's got a big build he is six foot five and two inches plus on top of that if you can just imagine you know what kind of height that is 352 pounds

he's one of the younger prospects in this class he's got good arm length to him as well although it's not as long as the height and the overall stature might indicate but this is a former five star offensive tackle has been extremely talented basically for the last six years going back to his junior and senior years of high school

He is a people mover in the run game although he is also great when he is on the hoof as well His zone blocking grades are much more impressive than you might expect for a player of his size Given the density that his body has Specifically his lower half I mean he can anchor against power immediately I think his weight is really well distributed

For a player who is 350 pounds I think that The feet are a little bit heavy when it comes to offensive tackle play. So if you don't love that, you could kick him inside to guard. He can struggle to shift his weight and power against stunts, specifically when guys are coming across his face

and mirroring that and still staying as strong. He struggles a little bit with that. I think he could... This is more of the beginning half of the season, no, but at the beginning half of the year, he was like dipping his head and leaning to make contact to really just, you know, totally displace guys off of their position. And it's like, dude, you don't need to do that.

You have the strength to not do that. Because there are times then when he would dip his head and then the offensive lineman, or the defensive lineman is just hitting him with a quick swim move and getting around him immediately. And it's like you could have totally avoided that rep. You don't need to do something like that. So I think the size overall, a little bit like I talked about with Markell Bell, the size overall is extremely alluring.

and I think it is more in control with Caden Proctor than it certainly is with Markell Bell. But I won't be, you know, I won't be oblivious to the fact that his feet might look really heavy at tackle at the NFL level. I just am, I don't know. I go back and forth with him at tackle and at guard, but I think that he's good enough to play a tackle in the NFL. And I'm just really encouraged by the back half of what I saw this season from him. Right. One of our questions you and I had coming out of summer, because we didn't love 2004, was, you know,

he had shoulder surgery, I believe, right? Yeah, he had a shoulder injury in 2024. How would he look at 100% the following year? And I thought he looked a lot better this year. He definitely looked a lot better. I mean, you talk about. And he is. He's a true junior.

He's 20 years old. So I think that's an important part to remember about all this as well. I think people look at Caden Proctor and go, oh, like, finished product. I don't like what I see. He's 20 years old. So he could absolutely continue to get better as well. Yeah.

Falcons, I see you in the chat. We do super chats at the end. Just let you know. Don't worry about. Yes. Yes. Sorry, I didn't say that at the very top of the show. We do super chats in the after the episode portion of the show.

I promise we will get to all of them. We got a bunch of them right now. And Falcons, ATL, we promise we will get to yours as well. So he's got the size. I was incredibly impressed with how he carried his weight at the combine. I mean, it's one thing that shed the weight and he has. He's also transformed his body because he's a massive human being. So how do you carry that 350 pounds?

It's different than how a 6 foot 3 player would carry that 350 pounds. He's carrying this very, very well. It's going to help his stamina. It's going to help, I hope, his balance. he started to learn how to maximize his anchor. That was another thing in 2024 that always shocked me.

I'm like, you're too big to be getting pushed around by power. And that got better this year. So you're right, Trevor. It's emphasizing his age and development is very, very important here because it puts into context of like a guy that the arrow is pointing up.

So many things got better this year and I think that coincided with health and experience and then putting in the work to weigh in in the right range at the combine as well, where I want to give him a real shot at tackle, like a real runway at tackle. And if it doesn't work, he will be fine at guard,

but obviously he deserves to get a real, real runway at tackle. I think so, too. Much more so than I thought going into the season. Same. I was not confident at all in that. Yeah, yeah,

I'm much more confident now. So I feel a lot better about what his, his tackle projection could be. There's a lot of people in the chat. they're saying like Romans is saying Caden Proctor obviously the lion's replacement for Dan Skipper, right? And I think he's saying it's just like

the utility offensive tackle who could also be a great athlete because Caden Proctor is somebody who could play like eligible tight end for you on the line of scrimmage. He could play in the back field. You can give the ball as a running back or as a fullback.

Yeah, you can do a lot of different things with Caden Proctor. So, okay. Francis Maui Noah. Yeah. You got him at two. I got him at three. What do we think about Maui Noah?

Because Maui Noah is seen as a potential number three overall pick. When you watch this player, you okay with that projection and then just overall thoughts of him playing tackle because he's another guy who's gotten some guard projections to him. Right. It's hard because he's not going to be my number three overall player in the draft. Like it's as simple as that. He won't be in my top five. I really like Francis Maui Noah because one, I have thought for a while he is kind of like Talisa Fulanga as a prospect. It's there is like, it's very easy to cross over the two.

He's another one. He's going to be 20 on draft night man, 20 years old. And this is already, just to rehash his story, this is already a full grown adult, right? like where you think of what he's been through, being from the American Samoa, going out to play high school ball in California, going home during the pandemic and having to play in the American Samoa again, and then going back out to IMG Academy in Florida, where he said to me, he's like,

it was a big deal for our family because the Samoan culture in California is very, very obvious. He goes, it does not exist in Florida. So like our parents letting us, because he went with his brother, letting us leave for California was an easy sell because we were still ingrained in our culture. Going to Florida, that is so far away and so out of their norms as kids, man. Kids, like an upperclassman in high school. So he does that.

He plays at IMGs, the top ranked offensive tackle in his recruiting class, goes to Miami and lives up to the hype. That is so hard to do. The world was expected of this guy, and he was asked to be an adult as a teenager, and he's passed that test. And so you're getting a 20-year-old on draft night that's already really lived as an adult football player

and had to operate as a professional. He was on a team that went to the national title. He started at Wright Tackle for three seasons, 2023 to 2025. So, I mean, that's freaking crazy to be. be that young and already played that much at right tackle. He's got the build. He carries his weight well.

He's strong, man. Like, you can't really utilize speed the power against him. You just can't. It's very, very hard to rush through him. So, I mean, 330 pounds, like, it's nothing for him. I think he could stick a tackle. I do. I think he'd be a really good guard.

I do too. Yeah. Like, really, really good guard. But we said the same exact thing about Fuonga. So, well, yeah, I, I, I, I, push for Fulanga to be a tackle. Like I was pushing for him to be a tackle first. I'm,

I'm less, I'm less bullish on Maui Noah. But I think the reason why is because his feet are, Maui Noah's feet are, I think really fast. And I don't think he has a ton of, ton of stretch in his kick slides. Like he's still sort of like built like a guard.

Right. But man, his feet are so fast like I was talking about earlier in the show. You got to have fast footwork to be able to play guard to high level. Yeah. And I think Maui Noah can drop your hips. Yeah.

Like when that speed the power hits you at guard, it's different than tackle. Yeah. Because it's just so out of the gate. Yeah. So Maui Noah for me, I've said this before, to your point about the foot speed, there is a play in the third quarter against NC State this year where he's asked the pole. And it is just amazing to watch him run.

Just run all the way down the field. It's borderline terrifying because it's. It's incredible. Like, it's an incredible feat of athleticism. You know, he's one of these guys, again, you've heard this a lot on this show. Like, you can get caught leaning against speed rushers. Speed rushers might be able to cross his face at times.

The lateral agility, and this goes back to your point of, like, why people might like him at guard a lot more, feel more comfort food with him at guard. The lateral agility to me is average. It's average. Yeah. And he doesn't have long arms. And he doesn't have long arms.

Yeah. They are 33 and a quarter. That's right at the threshold. So. But like threshold, not like average. No, no, threshold. It's asking you, you know, to make up for those things. And can you do that all the time?

Wait, to your exact point was a little bit of a Fuonga thing, right? Fuonga struggled to really cover a lot of stretch in his kickslides. But, and he didn't have the longest arms either. but he's made up for it because he's that strong and because his feet are that fast. Yeah, there's a comment in here from Alex about him practicing against Bain and Messador every day. And he said, that's going to turn anyone to a beast or make them fail hard. I asked him about this and, like, it's him and Bain really were all about making each other the best version of themselves. I bet they went to war.

War, absolute war. Yeah. And he had a passionate defense of Bain. arm length. He already, the good thing with him about the guard combo is he said teams have already brought it up to him. And he said, I just want one of, there's five places on the field for me to play. I am taking one of them.

I love that. Some people might read that as like, no, don't you want a stick attack? No, I want a football player. 100%. Football player. 100%. I will go to bat for this dude. I like him a lot.

The tape is the tape. He has grown man, NFL strength. He utilizes it. And there's just this lever you can pull if it's not great at tackle, where I will be floored if he's not a high-end guard. But I'm giving him the shot. It depends who you are too. Like, you know, this isn't a popular pick, but the Giants at five,

and I'm not saying this is likely to happen, but just uses a placeholder. Say they bring back a Luminoa for a year. And Maui Noah starts at right guard. Like, that's fine. They're not going to take him at five, I don't think. but I just think NFL teams are really, really going to like him because you feel good about what you're getting. And there's not all this projecting we're talking about

with all these other guys we've had combos about. Really, the big difference between Blake Miller and Francis Maui Noah is the length portion of it. And I think that Blake Miller's profile is so much more towards like what a tackle is than necessarily Maui Noah's. that's why I have him just above where Maui Noah is. But I want to be very clear. I do agree with you. I think I would absolutely give Maui Noah the shot to start an offensive tackle.

And if he doesn't really pan out at tackle, like if the lack of stride length and his kickslides is too much, when you're pairing that with the lack of arm length as well, put this guy at guard and watch him be an all pro. Watch him be a difference-making interior offensive linemen. So I agree. Even with me having him at three, this is somebody who I have a lot of faith in

to be a difference-making NFL player. So I'm with you, man. I really like who Maui Noah is. I love what the chat said about how he has grown up over the last three years having to go up against Ruben Bain and a key mess door. Like that will train you for the NFL because in my opinion, like we did it,

like we said on the Edge Rush episode, that's Edge 1 and 2 for me because of how good those guys are getting into the backfield. and Maui Noah went up against those guys every single day, and I think that that means something. So I really do think that the call out by you about Fuanga as sort of the way that it can work out, but then the things that you're also worried about going into the NFL,

that's a really good call out by you. I like it. Talk to me about number one, Spencer Fano. So Spencer Fano, the offensive tackle from Utah, I didn't, you know, there was a time when I didn't know if we'd get here. You know, after that Texas Tech game, Did we both have him OT1 going into the year? I had him OT1 for sure, yes.

I thought we both had him OT1. If he wasn't OT1 for me going into the year, he was really close. But I do think that he was my offensive tackle one. So he's a true junior, so he's going to be another player who's going to be on the younger side. The chef found the age at 20, 21 there from him. 6-4-5, 311 pounds from Spencer Fano, which is good, because sometimes the way he plays, I wondered if he was close to like 300, 305. But 3-11 was good to see him measuring at the combine because I think he carries the 3-11 really well.

Now, 32 and a fourth-inch arm length. Not ideal to play offensive tackle, right? We were all up in arms worried about Will Campbell's arm length last year. Spencer Fonno's got shorter arms than Will Campbell does. Now, I think his wingspan is longer, which matters. That matter. Let's stop there, because that matters a lot to me. Okay.

I don't even know what the wingspan was. Hold on. Let me look it up. I'll get Will Campbell's and you get, if you can. Well, I don't think, yeah, I don't think I, I don't think that's public. Campbell's was 77 and 3.8s, which is seventh percentile. It was, uh, Fonnos was longer than that. Where was, hold on.

I got to, actually, I tweeted about this, which is not really narrowing it down. Oh, your tweet says 80 and a quarter. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. That's a big difference. It's a lot, that's a lot longer. Yeah, it's a big difference. Anyways, Spencer Fano is a funny.

I love that reading your tweet to you. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Now I've made it. I made it, baby. Twitter search. Twitter search engine. It's had better days. Oh, it's horrendous.

I use Google to find your tweet. It's no longer usable. It's no longer usable. I don't, Elon, come on, man. How does the search function get worse? I can't understand it. Anyway, Spencer Fano, four-star offensive tackle for Spanish Fort Utah, committed to Utah, started 12 games that are left tackle as a true freshman in 2023,

started 12 games at the right tackle in 2024, and then started 12 games at right tackle again in 2025. Now, the 2024 and 2025 seasons, that's when Caleb Lom came around, and he was starting for them as well. he has a pretty deep NFL pipeline to his family. Yeah. His uncle, he had, no, he had four uncles. Four uncles, all played in the NFL.

It's pretty incredible. So he's got the, he's got the NFL bloodlights to him. He is a phenomenal. for his size. I don't know if I've if I've seen an offensive linemen look better in the on-field drills of the combine, it's

very few players that have. The amount of explosiveness, control, quickness, core strength, power, all of that, which was just so on display, every single rep that he was going through the on-field drills of the combine, it was getting to see

like his reps and then other players reps was so eye-opening to me about just how good of an athlete this guy really is. He was phenomenal in zone-blocking situations because of it. Elite 92.7 overall zone-blocking grade for him over the last two seasons. Just an 8.0 negatively graded run play percentage, which was 81st percentile, had the highest wins above average of any offensive tackle in this class at a 0.21. Pretty good in pass blocking, although the Texas Tech game was very the worst of his career and that one was tough on him. But I think he really recovered after that game and seeing a different sort of speed with Romelo Height and David Bailey that he was able to

adjust a lot moving forward. He's super light on his feet. He's got great potential in those outside and mid zone run blocking concepts. I think he angles defenders very well because he plays a little bit lighter, but I think he uses leverage and angles very much to his advantage to really help him in pass protection. He is a super competitive. player through the whistle, which I love. He's got fluidity as much as explosiveness, constant leg drive when it comes to getting guys between the shoulders and really moving them off of their spot. He looks like he's got vice grips for hands. When he gets his hands up and inside, it's over, especially as he is pairing that with his leg drive. And that is

phenomenal to see, you're going to see him be a locomotive against some defensive lineman, even at the NFL level. I really do believe that. The arm length is on the much shorter side. He sometimes plays a little light and I think he's got to still get stronger. But this is a player who I would still give him because of the athlete he is. I would still give him a shot to play offensive tackle first. But much like we talked about with Maui Noah, I think he could start at guard. I even think that Spencer Fano could start at center and be a potential Pro Bowl and all pro player. I think the world of who he is as an athlete, because I already see that athleticism be so in control.

role of how he plays. It's different from the conversation that we had with Monroe Freeling, where Monroe Freeling, you see a lot of that athleticism, but it feels like it's very out of control at times. It's recovering too often. Spencer Fano was often the one dictating the rep with his athleticism and his control while doing so. So that has been what is so impressive to me. And again, I would give this guy a shot at offensive tackle.

But if not, you've got, I think, a damn good guard, especially for one that's going to be playing in run games where you're trying to stretch things out to the sideline. I'm with you all the way. I mean, you're talking about scheme versatility in the run game on the higher end, higher end. He blocks through the whistle. He uses his legs to drive.

He's in attack mode. It's awesome to watch him just fire off the ball and go into attack and not react. He can really, really knock the defensive line off balance. Everything looks so smooth to him. Shout out to him actually doing the three cone. Hell yeah, baby. Compete.

A 734 would be the 93rd percentile, which I actually would consider higher because no one does it anymore. So if you actually thought of all the tackles being forced to run the three cone, this would probably be like a 98th percentile three cone in terms of more like today. Because the guys just don't do it anymore.

So the agility is off the charts. He's explosive. I agree about the positional versatility. I actually saw an interesting comment that I wanted to read when you were talking. Bacon said Fano has very similar stats to AVT, but is an inch taller, may be better as a guard. I'll say this, AVT was damn good at tackle when the Jets had to play him there. And he's one of those outliers.

Like he played left guard at USC and then eventually. left tackle. And when he was drafted, he was drafted as a guard, but because of injuries, he made a lot of starts to tackle. It was like, damn, he's just really good at it because he's such an elite athlete. ABT was like a 10 out of 10 relative athletic score. Fano is that kind of guy as well. Correct. Correct. You have to be this elite of an athlete if you're going to overcome those length limitations to play tackle. I did not think Will Campbell had that. And the wingspan matters here a lot. I don't want to lose sight of that. Like, Fonto having a much bigger wingspan makes a difference.

But I'm with you all the way, Trabb. Like, I'm giving them the shot at tackle if I need them to. Now, there's a chance of team drafts him that doesn't need him to play tackle, and that's that. But I'm a big believer in this guy, elite athlete, the right demeanor, the right mindset, the right IQ. And my, clearly my top offensive tackle for this draft. Bank in the chat, Bank in the chat says reminds me of the U of Washington tackle Troy Faltonu, but he's got shorter arms. Fonu does have shorter arms. He's taller than Troy Fultano was,

but he does have shorter arms than Fultano, who obviously is able to start at offensive tackle, but he's got length that you like there. But Fultano, I think, is a really good call out. Yeah, I like that. Not exactly in the build, but specifically how these players move. You remember how everybody was drooling over how,

what an athlete Trey Fultanu was at the Combine in the on-field drills as well, very similar to how Spencer Fano was this past year, how he just looked, different. He looked different of a player than his peers in his draft class. I felt the same of Spencer Fano there. There it is. There it is, folks. The top 10 offensive linemen that we have in this class. Number 10 for me was Mark Elbe. Well, you know, subject change. Number 10 for me was Mark Elbelle from Miami 9-2 Bowery from Boston College. Number eight, Caleb Tiernan from Northwestern.

Number seven, Monroe Freeling from Georgia. Six, Maxionature from Arizona State. Five, Caleb Lomo from Utah. Four, Caden Proctor from Alabama. Three, Frances Maui, Noah, from Miami, two, Blake Miller from Clemson, and then Spencer Fano from Utah. Number 10, J.C. Davis from Illinois. Nine, Cage Casey from Boisee, eight, Jude Bowery from Boston College, seven, Maxie Honachor from Arizona State. Six, Blake Miller from Clemson, five, Monroe Freeling from Georgia, four, Caleb Lomu from Utah. Three, Caden Proctor from Alabama. to Francis Maui, Noah from Miami, and one Spencer Fano, Utah. Our game plan of the week, folks, presented by Western and Southern Financial Group,

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