NFL Stock Exchange: An NFL Draft Podcast - Early 2026 NFL Draft QB Rankings

Episode Date: January 22, 2026

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George Pickens obviously worked out for them. He's not on the team. He is great somewhere else. You just parlayed it with D.K. Metcalf. I think it's the same player. Pickens is better. He's crazy. Hey, what's Metcalf?

Like it. You can see Mechaff grabbing the fans' blue wig, and it appears he takes a swing at the guy. Yep, got my ass. You're right. They are the same player. For the same player. George Pickens is the D.K. Metcalfe of George Pickens.

There you go. Thank you. Thank you for landing the plane for us. The NFL Stock Exchange podcast, Trevor Sikkim, Connor Rogers, here with you guys for, I say it's every time a very exciting episode of the program, but it really is, Connor. Feels like this is the ranking that everybody has been waiting for in the 2026 NFL draft class,

and that is quarterbacks. We are giving you our top eight early rankings for the quarterback position in the 2026 NFL draft. Now the national championship has come and gone, congratulations to Kurt Signetti, Fernandez. and the Indiana in the Indiana Hoosiers, by the way. But now that we know exactly who's in this class, now we can analyze exactly what these quarterbacks are going into the draft.

And maybe more importantly, for some people, Connor, stack it up versus potential free agent options. Because I think that's going to mean a lot towards this conversation. How you doing, my friend? I'm good, man. I'm laughing that I've seen the chat right away. Did eight quarterbacks, are there even eight quarterbacks declaring from Kate Peddler?

I'm not going to lie It was tough And the 8th spot wasn't a battle By you know Hell in a cell It was kind of a whimper Well it was but both of them just descend to hell That's how it goes

Right threw themselves off the cell Right By the way shout out to the chef man What an open Hey that is he's just editing Masterpieces on a podcast right now He's getting better and better and better At cold opens the longer that he is the producer

Of this show and it is scary because now we actually have to be accountable with the things that we say. Because if it's out of pocket at all, guess what? It's going in the cold open in the next show. That's right. We weren't even cold open farming there. No, we weren't. We're just telling it like it is.

It's unbelievable. Oh, man. This quarterback class is an interesting one. I don't think I'm breaking any news, shattering any glass when I say that it is not the strongest quarterback class. But I think that's also when you sort of look at positions that are a little less obvious. obvious at the top, especially one that comes with quarterbacks and the responsibility that that position has, you've kind of got to nail it. Right? I think that this quarterback class

is going to be different from team to team depending on who you ask. And some guys are going to look at and prioritize higher floor players, which we'll get into in this discussion. Other teams are going to prioritize higher ceiling players and just taking a chance on those players. But yeah, I mean, I went through most of the, well, the top. top guys that aren't All-Star Bowl guys. But I went through a good amount of the senior and Shrine Bowl players. I didn't watch all the quarterbacks I am going to watch. But I've gotten some mid-season looks from some of these guys that I didn't quite get to.

So I knew that, okay, I'm probably not going to end up having them in my top eight when it's all set and done. But it was an interesting exercise to go back and look at all of these players and just really try to stack them up against one another. How's Wally? Wally is, I mean, he is wonderful. For everybody that was asking me about him, I appreciate you guys in case you missed it, going back to the last show that we did on Monday, my wife and I are fostering a dog, and we're looking for his forever home. We wish that it could be us, but the dog that we currently have doesn't love another

animal in his dojo. And so we actually think that the best spot will be somewhere else for him. But, I mean, he's wonderful. He's a wonderful dog. He's just becoming more and more familiar with just like the routine of overall life because he's a puppy and potty training and he's picking things up so quickly because he's so damn smart. And if you guys missed it, it's at the end of last or the episode of Monday, the Fixing the Steelers episode, I tell you exactly where you could go, yellow brick road dog rescue.org. And obviously that's in Charlotte where I'm at. But man, if you live in honestly, like I love this dog.

anywhere in North Carolina, South Carolina, the surrounding states, like, if you apply for this dog and you were a perfect fit for his forever home, we would, we would drive him to you. We really would because he's absolutely wonderful. So thank you for asking for getting me an opportunity to say that at the top of this show as well. Thank you. Absolutely, man. All right. All right. Let's dive into it, though.

Top eights. So what will do, the new format of how we're doing these top eights will go eight through four. The chef will reveal, though. and then we'll get to have, I think, some cross conversations of where we end up having each of these names and then we'll get into the top three. We'll talk about the guys in the top three and where we could end up seeing them drafted.

So, uh, buddy, go ahead. All right. There, there it is. Look at that beautiful animation of my giant head. I love it. Number eight, K. Clubnik from Clemson was a popular talking point during summer scouting from the strides he had made. in the 2024 season.

And like just about every Clemson player we talk about on this show, it was not their year. And a lot of their prospects took steps backwards. And he sneaks on to my rankings at 8, which I'm going to be honest with you. I didn't even know if he'd make this cut. It's good that he accepted a shrine invite. I'm glad you're going to get to see him there.

And hopefully that's a start of a more positive process for Cade Clubnik. Seven, some call him Doc. those that know him call him talk his name first certificate is soyer robertson from baler another summer scouting legend six carson beck has been on three summer scoutings yes two two georgias one miami um so yes carson beck all of you just watched play in the national title game there at number six for me we have talked about him a lot on this show but we will do it once again it's kind of funny because i watched him again for this exercise and he is still the same exact guy in every way. You talk about Beck still?

Yeah. It just always depends on his environment around him. Like you know almost exactly what you're going to get from Carson Beck. He hasn't really gotten better in a lot of areas to me over the last three years. And we'll have a conversation longer one about him. I know some people really like him from this season. I thought he was the same guy though that he was at Georgia four. better and for worse.

Like, there's things he does well, but there are shortcomings with him where I didn't really see him as a long-term viable starter, of course. For better, for worse, insignia and health. Yes. For richer, for poor. Yep. Keep going.

How many got in the tank? I think that's it, right? Isn't that the three? I don't know. Any more come to mine. I only got married once. Get off me. That's it.

One and done. Five, Drew Aller, who, man, ended up not being a good decision for Drew Aller to go back to school, unfortunately. And we'll break that down. He's probably the hardest prospect to figure out in this draft because I think me having him at five is actually higher than I have than how I technically view him right now. Like we're still waiting on things to pop for him from a physical perspective. Well, trust him. We're going to talk about Drew Allen or plenty. And then four, the man that might not even be in this draft because he's going to war in the courtroom.

And that is Trinidad Chambliss. Yeah. You heard it. lawyer enough. That threw me for a curveball when you he might not even be in this draft. He's going to war I was like what? I was like did he get drafted or do we have a draft I have a draft? Am I going to war? That's what I was about to feel like what were we in? You look so scared.

That's a wild way to set that up. It might not even be in this because he's going to war. It was not a smart way to intro or ranking. It's not not great. Number four, Trinidad Jamblis, who, I mean, we have to act like he's in the draft right now, as much as he is trying to play more college football. The military draft or the NFL draft?

The NFL draft. Okay, just making sure. Specify over and over again. Joe, in the chat said, this is, wait, wait, this is in the draft I signed up for. He signed the wrong papers. What content am I watching? Oh, no. Oh, that's incredible.

incredible. Okay. So, all right, that's your four through eight. I guess we'll reveal my fourth. There it is. There we go. Okay. I have Carson Beck at eight. Almost all the same names. I have Luke Goldmire from Illinois. Goldmire. Gohmier was nine for me. Goldmire making the list. Nice. Love to see a senior bowl guy. Yeah. Drew Aller. I have at six. Garrett Nussmeier. I have at five. And then Kay Klubnick, I have at four. But it is funny. I have him at four. And the way that that you were setting up sort of talking about him at 8, I was like, yeah, I mean, yeah, he's not wrong. I just have that as QB4 in this class. So that's the thing, dude. Some people are just like, if you just saw this still as a screenshot,

you're like, damn, you guys still like Kade Klubnik or you guys still like Drew Al or no. I mean, this is the state of the class. I think that there's a lot of things I like about Trinidad right now, but of course, he's undersized.

Let's save Trinidad. And then I, because we'll talk about him. And then I think we should talk about Garrett Nussmeyer as the transition guys into the top three because I'm just theorizing here. I believe that that will be a smooth transition for us getting into the top three quarterbacks in this draft. Let's start with, let's start with Carson Beck, though, because he just played in the national championship for Miami. And it came up short in the national championship. had that last throw at the end that he just undercut a little bit, couldn't quite get it to the outside.

I don't know if he was trying to get it to the outside and he just didn't have the juice for it, or if he was thinking that the corner was going to sink a little bit, but he didn't really have anybody to sink and threaten for him to not retreat deep with the wide receiver. So I wasn't sure exactly what happened there, but a lot of people look at Carson Beck's year from Miami, and they think that it's been a big-time reclamation project,

that he has been a lot better that after last year and how he played at Georgia, there were a lot of people who were thinking that, okay, this is a mid to late day three type of a quarterback. And then after the year that he had with Miami, how Miami was playing well, especially through the college football playoff. I saw a lot of people talking about him as, you know, can he be a QB4 in this class?

You'll QB3 in this class. You have like a game manager type of player and all this kinds of stuff. Connor, I think that we've talked about him for a while now. He was in summer scouting twice, I think, for us. So we've talked. Yeah, it would be twice. We've talked about Carson Beck plenty. He's got the build for the NFL, 6 foot four, 220 pounds.

I think before the elbow injury, he had a decent arm for the NFL. It didn't really play well under pressure, not super mobile, but definitely somebody who could attack over the middle of the field, who could go through progressions. And again, just sort of that, you know, West Coast and style and game management. your type of quarterback that you feel good about having a pretty high floor. I'm actually more worried about him now than ever because I don't think his arm is the same after that UCL surgery. I think he got UCL surgery and I just did not see that same type of juice in his, which I already didn't think that he had the greatest arm in the world.

Right. But I thought it was adequate for the NFL level for the two, the last two years when he was playing at Georgia. And this past year, I just, I don't know, I felt like it was, it wasn't even what it was before at Georgia. So now I have a quarterback who is kind of a statue in the pocket, not really mobile, doesn't play well under pressure. I think the lack of mobility goes into that a little bit. And now for the game manager type of role that he has, I feel like he was putting the ball a little bit more in harm's way. Actually, the way that I should say, because his turnover-worthy play percentage was relatively low over the last two years. specifically this past season, it was below 2%, which is awesome.

But the big time throw rate was also way down for him. The big time throw rate was like 3.4, which is much lower than it had been for him, even when he was at Georgia when he wasn't known as a super vertical passer. So you now have somebody who has a lower ceiling already. And now the floor is lower that I'm kind of comfortable taking. I think Carson Beck is firmly a day three quarterback. And I think he's like a mid to late day three quarterback. Yeah, I'm with you.

I would not have him in the first three rounds, and I don't think I'd have him in the fourth. You nailed exactly what I was alluding to when I introed my rankings that, you know, when I said he was the same player, you're right about the elbow injury. Maybe he's even less of one, but more in the light of he's not very mobile and he's bad under pressure.

And it's been year after year of that, even when you just go purely on the numbers, when you look at 2004, when he was averaging 5.6 yards per attempt when pressured and under a 40 completion percentage with a turnover worthy play percentage of 9.4%, which is sky high.

In 2025, you would think, oh, it must have been so much better. Miami went to the national title game. He looked better in that offense by the eye test. Yeah, the completion percentage went up to 52.5 and the yards per attempt went up to 6.6. That's really low. the turnover worthy play percentage was still 8.7, which is stunning. Yeah.

So he's just, you're going to be under pressure in the NFL, especially when you aren't mobile. It's only going to get much harder. And you make a great point, Trevor, if the arm isn't where it was, it's just going to be tough for him. He's going to kind of have to change, not change, but evolve from a IQ standpoint. and the turnovers don't display optimism for that. He's got to be an assassin between the years, to be honest. Like, he's got to be a master of pre-snap breeds, post-snap rotations, because he's going to have to anticipate at an even higher level than what he did when he was at Georgia.

When he was, if you tell me pre-injury, even with a bad 2024 season, I'd have told you like, okay, Carson's probably going to get drafted in the fourth round. he's probably going to get a chance to be a starter at some point. And that might still exist for him depending on the path that he takes in the team that drafts him. But again, I just look at his arm this past year and I go, man, I'm worried about it. I'm worried about the overall arm strength. And when you don't have a lot of great play under pressure already, I think that that's a big issue. One area that I really like to put quarterbacks in when it comes to, you know, judging who they are

in certain situations is intermediate middle of the field, 10 to 19 yards down the field in between the numbers, in between the hatches. And I think that's a major key point to playing quarterback at the NFL level because whether it's backside routes, like a backside dig, or even front side concepts where you've got a deep crosser and you're trying to hit it between where the linebackers are and safeties are, you've got to be able to hit over the intermediate middle of the field

in order to truly unlock everything and put stresses on defenses at the NFL level. Carson Beck, over the last two years at Georgia and then this year at Miami, one big time throw six turnover-worthy plays, throwing over the middle of the field. Now, he did have 106 attempts throwing over the intermediate middle of the field, which I think was the most of any quarterback. But he also had a very high turnover-worthy play ratio when that was the case. And that worries me. That worries me when NFL defenses get a lot faster,

especially in that middle part where there's a lot of bodies there. So Beck is, you know, he is, I mean, he's got the background that we've talked about that NFL coaches are going to love, former four star. He played baseball. He was a pitcher. I mean, he had a scholarship to South Carolina as a freshman in baseball. And he was initially committed to play baseball for Florida. I know. And then when he was committed to Alabama after that, he was committed to Alabama to play football and baseball before he pivoted to Georgia and just the football route.

But NFL teams, I think, love the background, the build, all that stuff. But after the UCL surgery, I just don't know if he has the arm that you need him to have, even as a game manager type. Yeah. Another one last thing, too. Yep. You know, and once again, like, I've never, never talked to Carson Beck. Maybe he will at the combine.

Don't love the body language throughout games. It's, he's going, keep going. I don't know if you are if your skill set is projected where in the NFL you want to be a backup right a long-term backup and like there there takes a certain kind of personality and demeanor to really hold that job in the NFL because you're yes you need to be ready to play at any moment and be so responsible in the offense to keep it afloat like there's also an aspect of like what kind of guy are you in that quarterback meeting room? whether it's you're eventually there for, you're eventually going to be there for a younger player or if you're going into the NFL like Carson Beck, how are you going to take to learning from the older guys? I'm not saying he doesn't do that.

But it's just one of those things that gets called out a lot, and I understand why it does. Yeah. I'm with you. I just don't have a lot of, I don't have a lot of reason to draft Carson Beck outside of the fact that he played a lot of meaningful football in big games for both Georgia and Miami.

Yeah. And obviously he's been a part of those things. How big of the piece of the puzzle was he and will he be in the NFL? I think that it'll be interesting to see what the NFL thinks of Carson Beck. We normally do our super chats at the end of the show, but I had to shout this one out because we got a $100 super chat. Whoa, hello. I know, I know.

So look, we will do all the super chats at the end of the show in the after. the episode portion of the show, but I wanted to shout this one out because it is also topical and is a segue into talking about one Drew Aller. The super chat was, I understand that you are ranking prospects, but is where they land teams that develop well versus their pure skill more important. That said, Drew Aller to the Rams to sit behind Stafford and learn from McVeigh is the question there. Before we get to the Drew Aller part of it, yeah, of course, landing spot is huge. And it's huge for every single player, no more so. than the quarterback position.

It's Sam Donald. Look at Sam Donald, obviously. And there are plenty of other quarterbacks that go other places and succeed. The timing of franchises, where you are in your winning window, do you have the offensive line, do you have a running game, do you have receivers to be able to throw to? Do you have an offensive mind that is one of the better offensive minds in the NFL, or are they a guy who's about to be replaced?

The timing of where these franchises are in their winning windows, ownership, how invested they are in you, whether they have to win right away for a coach that might be on the hot seat, or whether they have a little bit of time to wait. All of that goes into it. I don't know if I would say that landing spot is always more important than talent. But Connor, I would tell you that landing spot can sometimes ruin talent. Like I think that there are examples where, like you just said, like with Sam Donald, where I don't know if it's more important or less important.

I think that situation is situation, but there are definitely situations that tell you that landing spots can really screw things up for talented quarterbacks. Right. There are the outliers that are so elite, they overcome the situation. When you look at what Joe Burrow has done for Cincinnati, and maybe that's not the greatest example

because you could argue the Bengals should be much better than they actually are. But the difference between Burrow on that team and anyone else is like, hoof you know so i mean buffalo was a franchise that was in a really bad place for a long time and sean mcdermott ironically was a huge part of that turnaround but the development of josh allen is what took them to the next level uh from being a consistent playoff team so yeah there are guys that can rise above it but those are so few and far between that development is obviously pivotal because you're just you're not chances are you're not going to get a crack at one of

players. So let's talk about Drew Aller. Where'd you have, Drew Aller? You had him five. Five. You had him five and I had him six. Talk to me about what you saw from Aller and sort of what is QB5 and QB6, you know, sort of like mean to you of where you would draft a player like this.

Well, yeah, for Beck, I said he's probably more of a fifth round and on player for me. And he was QB6, which is when you hear that, it's like, wow, that is. But it happens, man. It does, especially with quarterback classes. is a little bit more difficult to figure out because I wouldn't draft him until the fourth round or later. Yeah, I agree. And I would really have to, my coaching staff, specifically my quarterback coach and play caller would really have to be banging the table and explaining the plan that they have for him for me to even go as early as the fourth round. And some people might be surprised to hear that I wouldn't take him on day two right now.

here is my thing with Drew Aller, right? Coming into the season, he was one of those prospects that could play his way into the first round. And the first thing everybody will always say to you is that he's 6'4, 240 pounds, and he's got plenty of arm to play the position at the NFL level.

And nobody's going to push back on that with you. There's plenty of examples on tape of him being a full field reader, as we've talked about before. I thought in 2023 and 2012, He kept the ball out of harm's way. Kind of played boring football for the most part. But, man, and he's a game, like, here's the other thing with Drew Aller.

He is a gamer. He's tough. He'll run through tacklers when he has to. He can run QB power for sure. Without a doubt, he'll try to take on contact for the first downs. Like, he is tough as hell and has heart, man. Like, there's no denying that. And that's why I think people fall in love with him.

But he is not a. comfortable thrower, Trevor, and rhythm. Everything is, I've said this many times because we've talked about him plenty, but it's,

I couldn't believe it's still the same from the limited tape we have this year, which I believe was seven games that we had? I think so, yeah. Six, six and seven. Yeah, yeah. It feels like so many times he's trying to aim the ball.

And it elongates the process. It makes the quick game incredibly frustrating because they'll dial up like a little guy in motion in the flat and you just got to what happened i said six or seven games that he started oh my you're just like you haven't missed the show no no no why would i why would i i'm loaded up it's on me i'm on the point straight baby i'm the team of bay lightning so the problem is when when you can't operate that quick game efficiently and throw catch and run. Like, he'll sail throws in the flat or throws that you just expect him to make.

And then something I've always said about him, the pre-snap pressure just doesn't always correlate with what he's doing post-snap, why it's so chaotic. He's lost control, the football, from a fumble's perspective, a lot over the last three years. and he's been hit a lot too, which is part of the Penn State offense and part of his process. I think that the one thing that I really struggle with is against the best opponents they play. He has not played his best football almost ever. It's just he's one of those guys that he is just not a comfortable thrower consistently. And maybe he can develop in the right situation because he is physically gifted.

but we've now had two and a half seasons counting this year of him having the opportunity to look different. And while it got gradually better, it was never enough for me to look at him as a top quarterback prospect before the injury. Yeah, which the injury was fractured ankle, I believe, is the injury that he had officially. Hockey could be a lower leg injury, who knows.

Could have amputated his leg if he was a hockey player. Just lower, lower body. You wouldn't know. Sprained toe, leg amputated, yeah, yeah, guys fell out. Guys heart could have stopped beating. And they'd be like, yeah, upper body injury. Upper body.

Yeah, he's weak to weed. Long term. I was excited about Drew Aller going into this season because of exactly what you talked about, how it had been a little bit of a journey for him. But as a junior in 2024, he actually looked like he was taking steps in the right direction. Now, was it against the better teams that he faced in 2024?

No, his best stuff was still against competition that you go, okay, you should be beating these guys. You should be looking good. But he was looking good. And I thought that we were on the right direction. I thought this year was going to be, if it was another step for him, I think we would be talking about him as a first round quarterback. The issue is that not only was it not what it was in 2024, but Connor, I feel like it regressed. I feel like the pressure that he was under to become that first round quarterback. I'm watching.

I can't remember if it was like the UCLA game. or who is the Oregon game? There was a weird one. Let me like a game that from a scouting perspective, you're like, I'm not going to probably highlight that game out of my first three that I'm going to watch. Let me pull, let me look real quick. I watched the Nevada game, the Oregon game,

and the UCLA game. Those are the three that I watched from him from this year. And then I watch. Villanova. I didn't watch the Nova game. Just to watch him as a thrower. I would never. That was his worst passing grade though.

I would never. tip. That's why I watch it. Sometimes I'll do a high, low. You know what I mean? I'll watch. Oh, sure. Yeah, yeah. I do that. I know you love to do this too. I'll watch the highest graded game, the lowest grade of game, and then I'll just work through the middle of the rest of the process. Yep. Because it's like, you know, it's an interesting way to start. I'm like, why am I watching him against Villanova?

Right. And there were so many throws that he just didn't attempt. Like he, like, there were a couple of throws where this is one example. I can't remember if it was against UCLA or if it was against UCLA or if it was against Oregon. He's got a swing pass to I believe it's Nick Singleton, who good receiver, athletic dude, you want him in space.

And he's got two wide receivers on the outside. Both of those wide receivers are in perfect position to block up the defenders in front of them and Nick Singleton's got at least a 10-yard gain, maybe more. And he just looks at Singleton and he just doesn't throw it. And I'm like,

that's an NFL like play. You have to take that. You've got to be able to take something like that. And I feel like he's just, this year specifically, he was just thinking too much. You mentioned it's like he's trying to force passes. He's not this natural thrower. One, I think his footwork's an absolute mess.

There's no muscle memory there. Every throw seems to look different. His front foot is often, wide and sort of like presenting like his hips as open. And because of that, the accuracy and the true ball placement just isn't there for him. And then when he's on the run, I mean, they're all over the place, man. So that's the best way for me to describe Drew Aller, who is built like an NFL quarterback, has the arm talent of an NFL quarterback.

But he just, he is skittish when he sees open throws. He was way too gun shy this season. His big time throw rate was better than the turnover really play rate, which is good. and the turnover worthy play rate went down, but so did the big time throw rate. So I don't even know how much credit to give you if you're just dialing everything down.

Naturally, you're going to have less turnerable worthy plays if you're just not even throwing the ball the way that you needed to. And that's ultimately how I saw Drew Aller this season. He was scared to throw the ball. Scared's a tough word. He was hesitant. He was gun shy and hesitant to make the throws that you need to make, even with the arm talent that he has.

So inconsistent lower body. fundamentals, inconsistent confidence when he's seeing the field deep down the field. I mean, Drew Aller's passing grade on throws of 20 or more yards was like a 61 this year. Buddy, you're Drew Aller. It's got to be way better than that. That's your whole game. You've got an NFL arm. You've got to be able to rip it.

And he just wouldn't do that. So I agree with you. I think that, you know, going back to the super chat, long this is super chat, he has to sit. There's not going to be a situation where Drewauer gets drafted high enough to where where he's going to start week one in the NFL. It's just a matter of how long he's going to sit, does he get the right quarterback coaching, and can somebody get one, some confidence in him?

And two, can we clean up those lower body fundamentals? Because those two things are paramount if he's going to have success in the NFL. Yeah, without a doubt. He's a big, physically gifted, as somebody said, Drew physically gifted Aller, physically gifted quarterback that plays a brand of football that just doesn't match that, besides when he has to run and make a play. Yeah.

It's strange. And part of that is on Penn State's offense over the years. But there's no denying that at this point, some of it is also just individually evaluated in a vacuum him. Yeah. Is the nickname PG-15, physically gifted 15? It might work. Could work. Maybe he'll switch his name to his number to 13 in the NFL.

We'll get lucky. And that would be the nickname right now. Then it's just flawless. PG-13. Yeah, then it's right there for you. Okay, before we do K Clubnik, because I've got him at four and you've got him at eight, which I think brings up a really interesting conversation of how we see this player versus the rest of the class. But just talking to everybody out there, if you guys aren't subscribed to the channel yet,

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I think that he's got, for the most part, good ball security. I think that he's a really nice touch passer, very natural tough touch passer. He's got an adequate NFL arm, even though he's a little bit smaller. He's about six foot one and a half, 205 pounds with the official measurements

that he had before the season. I think he's a decent athlete. He can keep you honest with some RPO, some keepers, pick up first time, with his legs. He's got some pretty nice intermediate middle of the field type of throws, those touch and those layered throws versus zone.

Ultimately, I do think he's undersized. I think that shows up in his lack of arm strength. I think he has the lack of arm talent to really rip it versus two high coverages. Any sort of too high shell, I just don't think that he was willing to attack deep down the field unless it was a whole shot in between cover two

at the sideline. He really wasn't looking to attack deep down the field any time there were two high coverage looks because I think that he knows that he's got to put a little bit more air under those passes. And so he just really doesn't look that direction, which if you're a quarterback that's that limited, it's tough to unlock the full passing offense for you at the NFL level.

He cuts the follow-through short a little bit. So I think the passes sometimes sail on him. You know, he doesn't bring the arm fully down. He's just kind of up here and a little bit like Quinn Ewers, not totally like Quinnie-wors, but you know how Quinn had that like high finish to him. I think that that's why you see some of the balls sail on him when he's going towards the sideline.

I don't think he's the most comfortable passer on the run. I think his lower body mechanics sometimes fail him in that regard. But I do think that Kate Klaman could at least be a backup in the NFL for the next 8, 10 years. And as sad as it is in this class, that's QB4 to me. Because I just think he plays a high IQ brand of football, at least for the most part. He struggles to read safeties like I was mentioning. but I could at least see him sticking around in the NFL for a while, even though it's not as a starter.

And that was unfortunately QB4 for me. Yeah, this goes to show where we're at. I just, the one thing with Clubnik that, because once again, there were things that were not great around him this year, pass catchers dropping 20 of his throws. He was under pressure almost 34% of the time. Trevor, when he gets off his first read, the pocket for him just starts.

to look like a fun house of like mirrors. Like he's just running around and everything in front of him is showing him a different. Like it's crazy. It's drift backwards. It's rough. And he's a good athlete, but he's not the kind of athlete that is constantly,

as he's drifting and rolling, getting away from somebody trying to keep contain. Sometimes, but not all the time. And then as mechanics, as you alluded to the throwing on the move or off platform, like when they start to fall apart, after going off that first read,

there's just some ugly throws on tape, really ugly. When you just don't have any kind of feel in the pocket and you start to drift and throw off your back foot, I'm sure coaching is going to drill this into him, but there's so many examples of tape this year that I didn't see a lot of this the previous year, some but not a ton.

Like step up, climb the pocket. You, like, you don't always have to drift and roll. He just developed bad habits this. here. And it's the erratic nature of his game is just an impossible way to succeed in the NFL. And then like going back to once again, what you said when his base starts to go up from under him, he misses short area throws. It's not like some guys, some guys can just almost trick shot short throws. They don't even have their feet under them because they're just so natural. Right. Some guys like him and Aller, when their mechanics get messed up on short

throws, you don't know where the hell the ball's going. That's the problem is that like clean pocket grade, he had an elite passing grade, 90.7 in a clean pocket. When he can set his feet and when he could go through what is the expected throwing fundamentals from your toes all the way to your follow through, it looks pretty. I mean, he is a, the passes that he has, I think are picture perfect sometimes. The issue is is that anytime it goes awry, I think sometimes he can perform well under pressure, but man, the worst moments from him are backbreaking.

They're like total panic moments. And I thought that was something that was in his tape in 2024 and it's still there in 2025. I mean, there are people talking about K Club and it gives the number one overall pick when we were talking about him during the summer. And you and I were lower on him than I think a lot of other people were. Yeah, we didn't have him there, but we liked him better than this.

Well, again, it's because it goes back to evaluating a guy during summer scouting is so different than evaluating them now. Because in summer scouting, you know you have a full year upcoming from this player to improve upon the weaknesses that they have showed normally in their underclassman tape

up to that point. Now we have to look at Clubnikas okay, what you are has now been two years in a row kind of as the same thing and you're heading in the NFL, which is not what we've said this before, not a great developmental league. So I think what it's clean for him,

it looks pretty good. I think if he's in an ideal circumstance, he could be a preferred backup and maybe somebody that could come in and win some games for you. But overall, I just think that the out of structure stuff is tough for them. And whenever it gets away from an ideal situation, you start getting real nervous. And then, like I said, not exactly having the arm strength to really threaten any sort of too high coverages. It's a tough ceiling cell for me.

But again, like that's, it's QB4 for me. in this class. So he might go in the fifth round. And I think that that might be the fourth quarterback off of the board, to be honest with you. It's possible. Yeah. Especially if Trinidad goes to war. Somebody earlier said, wait a second.

Trinidad and Carson Beck are too old to get drafted in the military, but they're not old enough to get drafted here in the 2012. Good deal. If you can get it. That's great deal. Still make NIL? Right. Yeah. Who else do we have on this list?

Doc. Oh, yeah, yeah. Talk to me about Sawyer, Sawyer Robertson from Baylor, who I did not have in my top eight. I had him, I think he was 10 for me. Yeah, another senior bowl quarterback. A guy whose game really didn't change from when we talked about him over summer. I mean, it's not surprising.

These numbers are pretty similar. Like in the Baylor offense, you're still going to have big time passing production. But obviously you and I are evaluating more than that. You see it right there, like 6-4-220. he's got an NFL body. He's got enough arm as an NFL passer for sure. He can hit some tight window throws.

Honestly, when he's at his absolute best, he plays similar to Tyler Shuck. That's what he plays like when he's at his best. Now, he is not even close to the caliber prospect as Tyler Shuck. And that's because, man, he'll make one throw where, and this goes back to him having 25 big time throws, and 20 turnover where they plays. He'll make one throw, like a hole shot throw

or a tight window middle of the field throw where you're like, damn. Like he felt good on that one. He saw it. And he could just, he could throw the fastball or he could throw the off speed pitch in the bucket. But then he'll have two or three where he doesn't see sitting linebackers

or roaming safeties over the top. Or he just misses. Like there's just so many times. where he just he just inexplicably airmails the ball to the sideline. His biggest issue though right now, there's just predetermined throws on tape still from 2024 that carried in 2025. Like just this is a delayed screen. I'm waiting for it.

I'm waiting for it. Okay, now I'm throwing it. Well, the defender was looking at, had his eyes on you the entire time. Or there's a safety over the top. Well, my guy got over the top of the corner. the corner was letting him over the top, and I'm throwing it. Like, there's just so many predetermined throws, and maybe some of that is the offense,

but I like the Johnny Silverand, inexplicably. Yeah, those are my best moment. I own it. Professional speaker that can't speak. That's all we can do. No, but yeah, Trev, he's just, it's going to be funny watching him in the mobile environment because I'll say it right now.

He'll have a throw or two that gets clipped out and gets a thousand, retweets and everybody's like, damn, this dude's got an arm and like can make plays. But the consistency drive by drive and the turnover rate of like give me turnovers has just been pretty problematic. You see, doesn't take a lot of sacks. Like he's right. Like he's a solid like player, but this, the decision making is just not gone the right way.

It's another one of those examples that we've talked about here on the show where you go best five throws in the class and Sawyer Robertson would be up there with some of the top guys around the Keon Coleman. He'll forever be the Keon Coleman. Bad day for that? Well, I was going to say, who wasn't Brandon Beed's pickpon?

He didn't draft him. Yeah. The coach he fired one of them. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Then you have videos of Brandon Bean. Sure, sure, sure, sure, sure, sure. Now we can get him. We definitely believe you. Yeah, yeah, we definitely believe you. I don't even

want to start with that whole thing. Good content. Is it? Man, can't imagine why the Sabres have been so bad for so long, Terry Pagula. Josh Allen is Superman. Anyways, not the show for that. If I start talking about that, I'm going to go off on it. And so that's, I feel like it's a topic for another day.

Sawyer Robertson, the good moments are good. I think that he's got some ability to, well, man, I think he's got the ability to rip it in between zone coverages. He's just do it a lot. No, he absolutely can, but you are right. Most of the time, he's like a one-on-one sideline thrower, which is good. A Michael Trigg merchant? Kind of, you know?

The best throws that I saw from Sawyer Robertson, he's given guys chances one-on-one, which I actually think could play pretty well in the senior bowl because you do that a lot. I agree. And to be fair to Soya-Robertson, that's how the offense is designed. designed. Like they're, they're clearly looking, they're hunting those one-on-ones with athletes. And he is coached to three because he has enough arm talent to do it. Just let this guy make a play. Yeah. Another major problem that I have with him is I think his lower body fundamentals are horrible.

He was a pitcher. Let me make sure you get this right. This is to the misses. He was a pitcher coming out of high school. He's a four-star quarterback, but he played football. and baseball in high school. And his father was actually a first round pick of the expos in the 1990 MLB draft. Funny enough, which is also topical. His cousin is Jared Stidham.

That's right. Starting a big game, big game for Jared Stidham. Big week for the family. Jared Stim starts on Sunday. Sore Robertson at the Senior Bowl in a couple of days after that. You're going to be a fascinating president's weekend at their house. He has, he has, wait, is it president's?

day this weekend? No, but after President's weekend is after the Super Bowl. Oh, oh. It's the next holiday, right? Did I miss one? I don't know. I can't keep up. I like Google tell me what the holidays are. I don't know. Can't keep up anymore. I don't think they're all getting together for Valentine's

Day. Maybe they are. Maybe they are. It's their thing. So, lower body mechanics I think are terrible from him. He has a wide leg kick that totally changes how and when the ball is leaving his hand.

He also, he also does the Jordan Love thing where he just fades away from so many passes. Loves it. Loves it. Brother, there's one quarterback I'm okay with doing that. And even sometimes then we're like, ah, right. And it's just Jordan Love. Yes. All of that goes into the fact that he had a 27.5% uncatchable, inaccurate pass percentage over the last two years,

which was the highest number I could find of any of the draft eligible quarterbacks in this draft. He is, again, the best five throws from him, great. Taking chances one-on-one down the field, fearless against man coverage. Sometimes he's ripping it between zone coverages. But the in-between stuff, he's way too erratic for me right now. And at this point in time, you are going to have to completely overhaul his entire. higher throwing fundamentals if you want to fix that. And I just don't know if that's ever going to happen at the NFL level.

So got the armed talent. I understand why you got him in here for the top eight, just because like I said at the beginning of the show, some of our rankings will be searching for ceiling. Some of them will be searching for floor. And you're betting on just like the overall size, the armed talent. But he was way too inconsistent for me to make my top eight. Yep.

What else do we have in this group? We had Luke Altmire. I had Luke Altmire in here. Yeah. He would have been nine for me. Yeah, really quickly on Luke Altmeier or Goatmeier, as as Webb often says in the super chats for us. You talking about a guy. Somebody left the comment saying, I think call him Oscar Meyer because he's a hot dog.

He's, it was. Well, you should, it should have been call him Luke Oscar Meyer because he's got that dog in him. Or because he, or because he's a dog. Oh, there you go. Yeah, because there's a dog. No, no, no, no, all right. Colonellia. Colonnail. Yes, there you go, Colin.

Thank you for steering this ship. So he's about 6'1, 21, 215 pounds. Not really built like a typical NFL quarterback, but I think Luke Goldmeyer handles the game very well. He's got-point guard. He is a total point guard, man. I think he's got consistent accuracy. He's really good with timing routes that are in breaking routes, specifically those quick slants. He's really good with accuracy there, really good with timing there.

He has good chemistry with his receivers. he's got good touch passes outside the number. He doesn't do it a ton, but he can't do it. And when he does it, man, it looks really pretty. He is somebody who I think manages a pocket pretty well. I know you see that the sack percentage there, the sack rate of 7.3 and it's only 12 percentile. But a lot of that stems from the fact that he's just not a great athlete.

When it comes to the overall pocket management, he'll stand tall in a pocket if there's no pressure around. More than almost any other quarterback that I watched, you get these guys that once you get to like two two and a half seconds they're bailing they're out doesn't matter if the pocket is clean or not they're out they're moving they get antsy he doesn't he'll sit in there and he'll continue to scan the field he'll go through his progressions he'll read the defense the way that he needs to i just think he plays the game with such a high football IQ i thought he was he's not a great athlete so he's not great out of structure but i think he

had a pretty high completion percentage out of structure uh what was the scramble uh justy good police your percentage on scramble plays was 68 and a half that's that is one of the higher numbers that you will see on scramble plays i just feel as though he plays a very clean brand of football and i could see luke altmyer being somebody who like i talked about with clubnick sticks around the nfl a long time preferred backup and if you need him to start him in a pinch if you're starting quarterback has a high ankle sprain and he's out three weeks or something like that he could come in and he could win you two out of three games. You know, it's not like it's a total foregone conclusion that we're losing these games.

If you got Altmeyer, I just, I just really liked, I appreciated the way that he played the game. If he was a little bit more physically gifted, if he was a little bit bigger, if he was a little bit faster, the way that he plays the game, we'd be talking about a top 100 pick. Don't think he gets picked in the top 100, but even as he is, I think he can stick around in the NFL. Yeah, this is the day three Kyle Shanahan backup quarterback. Yes, sure, yes. This is exactly what he is. Because you look at what he struggled with in college.

He took 30 sacks at 2024, 18th percentile. He took 31 sacks in 2025, 16th percentile. Those are examples of him at the college level having to try to make a play. But in an NFL offense, that is as structured as, and I use Shanahan as a placeholder, that is told exactly what to do in each situation. and you're not asked to be play off script. He'll be fine as a backup like you just said. He's boring.

He's not going to wow you in any kind of way. He's not going to uplift a situation. But can he take the wheel here or there? And ironically, it's funny. You had him at seven. I have him at nine. Like there's a world where if Altmeyer was one of three quarterbacks left in this class eight years from now or whatever,

you'd be like, yeah, kind of get how that happened. Right, that's how I see him. That's how I wrote his scouting report. 100%. Peter says the 49ers should draft Luke Altmeier to back up Purdy, just like the Ravens kind of have had Tyler Huntley backup Lamar Jackson, similar roles there. Which they took Curtis Rourke last year.

So if you trade Mack Jones and then you have a quarterback room of Purdy, Rourke, and Altmeyer, like would anyone be shocked? No. Lucrative says trade Mac Jones to the Jets. I don't know about to the Jets, but you can just trade Mac Jones and then draft this kid. Yeah, McEl have a market that they can get something back for him. And then Wacky says he's the Jimmy G of Mike White's.

Sure. That's actually like, sure. I get it. Yeah. Unfortunately, we get it. Yeah, unfortunately. I hate that I get it. Did you have somebody else that we haven't hit yet in your 4th through 8?

I don't think so because I had, I had Trinidad, you had Nuss. Ah, yes. Okay. So we will get to Trinidad and to Nuss in a second. But first, our game plan of the week presented by Western and Southern Financial Group, a game plan for your financial future, guys. My game plan of the week, as it is, Shrine and Senior Bowl week, my game plan of the week is whatever offensive linemen need to do to not get put on a highlight reel against Rubin Bain one on one. Now that Rubin Bain is going to the Senior Bowl, that's the game plan of the week. Do whatever you need to do. Don't hurt the man, but you know, you got to slide tackle him. You got to hold them. Do whatever you can. Survive. Because Ruben Bain is going to put you on a highlight film if you don't. So that, whatever game plan that is, that's my game plan of the week. Just like every team wins starts with a great game plan. Your future should as well with life insurance to build like a championship roster. Western and Southern House Protect you and your family. So you can focus on winning today, knowing that tomorrow is covered. Whether you're just starting out, building your dynasty or looking

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yeah, they go, oh, what do you want? One through 10. Go ahead and decide. Bad take of mine, not an Indian food guy. Ah, man. Yeah, it's like basically one of the only things that I don't actively, like, people I really, really look forward to it. It just doesn't move the needle for me.

I'm sorry. I know. I think Indian food is a top three cuisine might be one. I get people love it I'm not I'm admitting I'm wrong I'm it you know it's tough wasn't born with the palate for it I love it and uh my wife not a fan yeah it's yeah well you got to be it's your only flaw it's her only flaw everything else everything else is just picture perfect in every single week the chat has never been more like 50 50 like I'm the worst human alive or I absolute W you all cool

Yeah, there's more ws than I expected. Mike says top three is crazy. Mike, the flavor profile that you get with Indian food is three. It's unlike any other cuisine. It's unlike any other cuisine. I think Mike's right. Peter says, suggest chicken tea masala. Listen, you get a little lamb biryani in there as well.

You do not fall for Trebs propaganda. A little spicy Vindaloo, although, I've got to take it easy on that. Yeah. I think Indian food's phenomenal. Favorite, oh, what is my favorite dish? That is a bad take. See, Thai food, I think, yeah, far better.

I agree. I love Thai food. Loving life in Alaska. I also love Thai food. I also love Thai food. I think Indian food's better. Favorite dish is, a favorite dish, I mean, look at me. Look at me.

Hands washed? Well, that, yes. It's chicken, ticket. Masawa is my favorite dish, but I order other dishes. But hey, I am who I am. Chat's cooking. A lot of love for Korean food. Also agree. Once again, like, this isn't me being uncultured. I eat everything. I don't know if I've had Korean food. You've had a Korean barbecue. Yeah, but is that? Well, no, it's not. But like you've had a subsection of Korean food. Right, right, right, right, right. Right. What is,

what did peter say this is the best the chat spent in a while his favorite foods doves hand soap watch so peter watch yourself um the nuss bus i don't think anyone's shocked fernando mendoza at one

ties i don't hold on what's what's korean what's korean food now like what's a korean dish somebody in the chat let me know yeah i'd like to see some examples i'm gonna seek this out Polish foods elite. Hell yeah, baby. I got a little Polish in me. Little parogies.

Little kibasah. Oh, man. Homemade parodies are what kielbasa. Elite, elite. That's up there. Also better than Indian food. Oh, kimchi. Yeah.

Don't make me go against my heritage like that. Don't make me have to say out loud that I like Indian food more than Polish food. Don't make me say that. I feel better about my take now after everybody. on their favorite foods. A little hulushky? See that in the chat? All right, anyways.

Speaking of Korean barbecue, Garrett Nussmeyer. Yeah, I have Trinidad. By the way, I have Trinidad at three. I have Ty Simpson 2 and then I got Fernando Madoza at one. But let's talk about Garrett Nussmire first, because you got him in three. The Nussbuss bus, man.

I'm just struggling to quit him. Honestly, even after how bad this year was, it actually wasn't as bad as I remembered. Like while watching the games each week, I'm like, what the hell's going on in LSU? And why is Nussmeyer playing like this? And then when you look at the bird's eye view, you watch the games back on the coaches tape.

You understand for whatever reason he's playing through an abdominal injury, which is just absurd for a quarterback. Well, I mean, he came back. So I'm sure he was, you know, because what did he? what do you think he was a second round pick, maybe even a first round pick if he declares last year? Yeah, he probably would have went right where Shuck went last year or earlier, honestly. Right.

So that's why it's like, okay, well, you come back for that, you have an abdominal tear. He probably wasn't going to be like, all right, well, I'm just going to call it quits. He's probably pissed, to be honest with you, that he had that injury. That he put his pain in Brian Kelly's hands, yeah. It's a tough move. It's a tough move there. I still like Garrett and Usmire, man.

my like the concerns to get them out of the way he's about six feet and five he's a little like a hair under six one I don't know what he's going to bulk up to the the sheet I have he has nine inch hands like he's smaller he's not a big quarterback for a guy that is also not a mobile quarterback so that like right up as a pro prospect you're a little up against it right away when you're a small smaller quarterback that's not a running quarterback. Yeah, I think the official measurements for him are just under 6-1. Yeah, six and five-eights. Yes, yeah, yeah, yeah.

You know, it goes back to not having a lot of foot speed and just. But other than that, man, he plays, it's funny, as shocking, son of an NFL offensive coordinator, he plays the position really, really well. He does a lot of great things. He hangs in the pocket. he can reset the pocket. He understands where the ball needs to go to the sticks. There's high-level throws of him being able to push the ball and even take chances.

I mean, you see the sack rate, 86th percentile, doesn't take a lot of sacks. He knows before the snap, typically how much time he has. He's somebody to me that it's impressive watching him work a concept on one side of the field. and being able to then work to the middle or the back side of the play. Like there's just not a lot of college processors that can consistently play that way. I think his processing speed and his IQ isn't a really, really good place for a college player. He'll hang in. He'll understand exactly how much time he has and he knows he's going to get cloppered.

And as long as he's going to try to make the throw. I forget what game he was, what game it was. it would have been the tying drive. I'll pull it up in a second. Where he did exactly that. He hung in, made the throw, and the receiver just dropped it on a fork down. I need to look that up, which one it was.

And I was like, man, like, you look at the results of the game and you're disappointed, but then you actually watch the game. And you're like, he gives him a chance. It's another guy that, like, the situation was just really, really ugly this year, and he couldn't overcome it. He's not that different. Here's the thing. the strides that Aller and Clubnik started to make in 2024,

they regressed in so many ways this year in their own way to me. Nussmeier, the strides he made in 2024, didn't have the same regression this year. He was hurt and it was a disaster around them. It wasn't perfect. He had mistakes of his own. Yeah. But like I was looking at him like, no,

he's kind of what I thought he was this summer still. but you have to dock him a couple points that he's not a big quarterback that was an injured quarterback that doesn't escape and hangs in and gets hit. Like how is that going to play at the next level? But I still like Garrett and Osmire. And I think he's one of the rare quarterbacks we're talking about today that can start in the NFL in the right situation. You just can't say that about a lot of these, a lot of guys on this list. To me, he's going on day two.

He might go in the top 50 after all. this. I totally, I do agree with you. By the way, Bork in the chat saying nine inches is small, we're so cooked chat. I, when I look at, when I look at Nussmeyer, I have him at five, but I have him at five. I'm worried about how he plays the game because he's a, he is a small gunslinger. We don't have many of those. No. You got Baker Mayfield.

Baker. Yeah. But here's the problem. Baker stunk this year. And for the, I think it goes into it. But I think Baker was also just, he's a smaller quarterback that tries to play this gun slinging style. And when it looks great, it's great. Nussmeyer is basically hoping that he becomes Baker Mayfield, to be honest with you.

But I thought Baker had a much better arm and has much more arm talent that Garrett Nussmeyer. does. Baker has a bigger arm. Yes, that's what I'm saying. Yeah. That's what worries me about him. I agree with you completely. Him being Doug Nussmeier's son, him growing up around the game.

He understands progressions. He understands route concepts. He understands what the defense is trying to do it. He's not afraid to throw it over the middle of the field, although I will say there's a handful of throws that I watch from him, even like this year where independent of him being hurt, like he didn't even, like he didn't see a player over the middle of the field because he's smaller and he couldn't see over the offensive line and you could tell like he just didn't know where a defender was which is obviously

an issue he had nine turnover really plays over the middle of the field over the last two years which was a lot he's just one of those players that i have my reservations about because he's trying to play a style of quarterbacking that is very difficult to do unless you have at least a tier two arm like a tier one or tier two arm and i don't think he's going to have a tier one or tier two arm and i don't think he's going to have a tier one or tier two arm for the NFL. Certainly not a tier one. I don't even think he has a tier two arm for the NFL. But going back to what you said of these quarterbacks that we are listing, if I had to name one that we have already named that you would say like, hey, which one do you think has the best

chance to be a starter at the NFL level? It's Nussmeyer. I think it's, I think it's nuts. Also, not to cut you off, Treb, because I see a lot of this in the chat, but love and life in Alaska, this is the one example of it said. If they say he's 6-1, he's probably sub-6 feet when he gets measured, the measurements Trevor and I are saying are when he was measured in the spring. I want to be clear, like there's guys that we don't know, Trinidad Chamblis, Diego Pavia, Garrett-Uzmire was measured about six feet tall, 5-8, like a hair under 6-1. I think we have Pavia's.

Oh, we do it, Pavia. Yeah, Pavia's official was like 5-9 and 3-4s, by the way. And like, which I also, you brought Pavia hilariously, When we revealed our top threes, somebody in the chat, I can't remember who it is, was like, wow, no Diego Pavia, as if we would have him on the top three of the list that we were waiting to. Brother, look, I wish Diego Pavia was six four. Hell, I wish Diego Pavia was six two. If you gave me six two for Diego Pavia, I'd be like, yeah, I'm in, great. Maybe QB3 in this class.

Wasn't it over summer, you were like, hey, he might be a fullback at the next last. I think, I mean, he's a dog, dude. It might happen. I genuinely think she could be a utility player at the NFL level because of how much of a dog he is. But at five foot nine and three-fourths, he's the same way as Nussmeyer except worse. Like there were plays where he's throwing over the middle of the field and I'm like, you don't even see that defender. You can't even see him over the offensive line. So that's just a thing that you've got to think about.

So I like the Nuss bus. I do. You do. You were higher on. It might get me in trouble, but I really, I still see it. Hey, if you're searching for starters in this class, he's exactly where you have him, probably. If you're searching for guys that you just want to have, if you're hitting singles, if you just want a guy who's going to be a backup for you that's got a high floor,

he's probably not going to be for everybody. So Trinidad Chambliss, I think is also, yes, go ahead. Boss Girl, a Jetskin draft Chambliss early and Pavia Leight, stacked him on top of each other you have one good NFL quarterback yeah what's the uh what's the what's the book what is that the uh oh well i guess it's not it's not the i was thinking of the freak the mighty book where it was just like a smart dude on on top of a giant dude shoulders but it's not quite that it's more of the it's more of the two small dudes and a giant trench coat kind of a thing playing quarterback for the jets it could work out poppy's got strong legs he's got a shot strong core he won a wrestling state title i

think. They could do it. Trinidad Chamblis, redshirt senior from Ole Miss. Listed measurements, six feet tall, 200 pounds. Probably not. Probably not. He was a zero star quarterback from Graham Rapids, Michigan. Also got recruiting interest in baseball, committed to Ferris State, which is a D-2 school at a college. Only played in two games his first year. Got one start the following year, started all 15 games to win a D2 National Championship in 2024 and then he transferred to Ole Miss in 2025. He was going to be Austin Simmons backup. And then he ended up getting in the starting lineup early in the season and he never let that job go. And the reason why Connor is because this

dude is fun as hell. I get it. He is not built like an NFL quarterback, but there are so many moments where he reminds me of Russell Wilson. He doesn't have the same moon ball that Russell Wilson does, but he can attack deep down the field. And for his stature, how he is built, how he plays outside of structure, how he can operate RPO and play action, the thrower that he is on the run, I mean, I think that he is, he is pretty good. He is pretty dang good. The ball velocity on those intermediate and short routes are pretty good despite his shorter size. I think he's a true RPO point guard type of a player where the defense, if you get them to hesitate just a little bit, he can get the ball out really quickly or he can

take off with his legs. I think he's a great escape artist in the pocket. Anytime that you pressure him, he can get out. And I think that he's a natural thrower on the run. A lot of these guys who we talked about, Clubnick, certainly Carson Beck, but like even Luke Altmeier, Drew Aller, like a lot of these guys who get out of the pocket, they just, they don't look nearly as comfortable throwing on the run. Trinidad Chambliss makes it look smooth as butter when he is throwing on the run and outside of the pocket when he is scrambling. Loves to give his receivers a chance one-on-one versus man coverage on the outside. I really appreciate about that with his mentality and who he is as a touch passer. I think he's got good natural touch on those back shoulder throws, even though he's not

rifling them in there as fast as some of these other guys. He's small, I will say, but he doesn't look like he doesn't look like he's frail type of a small. He's a smaller type of a quarterback. Sometimes he's got to swing his leg out and put his full body into passes when he's really ramping up the speed that he want to has on the ball. Deep passes take a little bit longer to reach their target just naturally. But I had a lot of fun watching this guy's tape. And I think there's obvious reasons that we'll talk about here in a second with Fernando Mendoza and Ty Simpson of why you would take those two guys ahead of them. But if I'm taking the next guy in this class, give me the player that knows how to play out of structure. That's a true natural of a quarterback,

somebody who has that clutch gene, somebody who has that ice in his veins, somebody who knows how to play well when things aren't in ideal circumstances. because unfortunately that's most of these quarterbacks. We talk about where they are when they're good. It's basically just in ideal circumstances. Anytime you get basically this entire quarterback class, you get them away from clean pockets and ideal circumstances, they do not play well.

Trinidad Chambliss not only plays well. He sometimes thrives in those areas, and yet he's still able to operate from a clean pocket as well. sack rate was 90th percentile because he never goes down in the backfield, avoiding negatives with 77th percentile, so he plays pretty smart, doesn't put the ball in harm's way. I was just such a big fan of his. And the type of quarterbacking that he plays, he's a smaller quarterback, but in a class of smaller quarterbacks, this is my favorite amongst the group.

Yeah, I get it. The film is really, really impressive. We don't know, and I did double check because I didn't realize he was on that sheet. Pavia was 5-9 and 3 quarters this spring. So maybe he can get to 5-10 at the combine, whatever it may be. But yeah, I didn't realize we had officials on him on that sheet. We do not have that for Trinidad Chamblis. Nope.

Who I would guess 5-10 and a quarter. Probably. That's what I would guess as well. By the way, he is going to be older. He'll be 24 years old, his rookie season in the NFL. Yeah. This is someone that he's got plenty of arm for an undersized quarterback. I love how springy his bases when he's working in the pocket.

Like he, he's calm, but he's ready to evade pressure whenever he needs to. He's not a statue. You know what's funny, Trevor? He's smaller and doesn't have the same level of arm. But there's a lot of times where he, the good he does, he plays like Cam Ward, where he's bouncy and he can kind of dip and he can kind of roll. and then he'll stop and he'll look to like push the ball down the field off script he'll create for a really really long time uh the same thing as cam he drives the ball with confidence on those underneath

throws like slants and digs he's dropping back and throwing the ball with purpose like he's repped it a hundred and hundreds of times so like an NFL quarterback he throws touch he shows touch throwing the ball down the field uh he could hit the whole shot between the corner in the safety. He doesn't take a lot of sacks because of the athlete he is and he has good feel for pressure. You know, you said a lot of it. He's undersized. He'll turn 24 years old before his first NFL season. He had 16 batted passes at the line of scrimmage this year. And that's the world of us. That's the world for a smaller quarterback, but that's a jarring number. It's a jarring number. The intermediate throwing outside the numbers, 12 for 30, 10 to 19 yard range outside

the numbers 12 for 30. It's not the strength of his game all the time. And then if you're starting Trinidad Chambliss, like you need to build it where you have those big perimeter targets because he puts a lot of air under the ball to give those guys a chance. Yes. And it's not an insult. He knows he has these bigger targets that can win the ball

and he puts air under the ball and let them make a play. If you're an NFL like if you are drafting him, you better build your team that way because that's something he's really, really good at, but not every roster is built to do that. So you're going to want to do some of the things that the Broncos did year one and still do before he got hurt with Bo Nix where like you're rolling him out a lot. You're getting him on the move. You're asking him to play that style of football.

But yeah, he's smaller than the both guys I brought up and both Cam Worry and Bo Nix who were not big quarterback prospects. They weren't the biggest guys either. And that's going to understandably be the knock on Trinidad if he's ultimately in this draft. Yeah, he had one of the highest passing grade. on those design rollout type of play. So I agree with you completely.

Get him some big wide receivers that he can take chances with on the outside, give those above the rim type of opportunities to and let him be a rollout type of a quarterback. Somebody in the chat was saying Kyler Murray Jr. You know, it's funny because I think his play style can be close to what Kyla Murray is, but I don't think he has the arm that Kyler Murray has. And that's sort of the same way that we talked about Baker Mayfield and Garrett Nussmeyer like these are like the playing style is there but you don't quite have the same arm strength

which matters a lot towards their future success you don't want to be lacking in the arm strength and the arm talent areas and so I think the play style is close-ish to what we've kind of seen from Kyler-Murray but I don't think that Chambliss has the arm talent that Kyler-Marie had when he got trapped at number one overall right one thing that'll help Trinidad and I think I've said this on the show but one thing that'll help him during the process is like Talking to somebody at that program, just everybody loves Trinidad Chambliss. He is all the way in, team guy, leader, tough, like all about football. It's like he's got all those intangibles that if you're evaluating a quarterback that's an outlier,

which he is because of his size, you need to check literally every other box. And credit to Trinidad Chambliss, based adversity, not a bad. big time recruit has bounced around, has now won at multiple levels. Like, he's going to need to check those boxes to not be a day three afterthought. And he, in my opinion, he does. I do too. I like him. I think he's QB3 in this class.

There was news that came out today that there is optimism from oldness that he somehow, some way might actually win his case to go back to college football for another year. Dude, I'm surprised by nothing in this era. Is it Joey Aguilar doing the same thing? Yeah, I also, I don't know why he would do that. If Trader Dad Chambliss dreams of playing in the NFL at all whatsoever, I have no idea why he would go back to school. I mean, maybe he was told a differing opinion from how you and I view him.

I mean, sure, but in this class? Dude, I get it. How much further can you drop him in this class? Before the year, he wasn't getting drafted, right? He was a nobody. He was a UDFA. It wasn't a starter on his own team. But that's what I'm saying.

Before the year, he had no NFL expectations at all whatsoever. Then you go on this crazy run in the college football playoff. I mean, he is like QB5 at worst, at worst. And in next year's class, when we have all of these other. quarterbacks are going to come out unless he wins the national championship with old miss and even then i think it'd be i think it's outside of hey man it's your life you could do whatever you want to do with it if he has NFL aspirations at all whatsoever i i would be telling him you you have to declare for this class you got to declare for it especially with with him already being 24 years old

this rookie season if he's in the NFL yeah i was wondering what like what's the draft slot line for him for it to be worth it. Say he's getting $5 to $6 million in NIL. Yeah, I mean, I guess. Because he would have to be drafted decently high, right, in order to eclipse that. Yeah, okay, here we go. So the 2026 draft, the table of running cash flows by pick on over the cap.com. Wacky says best dual threat in the class.

I think so. Yes. He's my number one ranked to dual track quarterback because I have them broken up in a pocket quarterbacks and dual threat quarterbacks. Yeah, unless he just really wants to go back to college, you would think that doing the math, like he didn't think he'd go top top 45 to 50.

I think he would have. I know. I think he would have went to the time. It might have been like a close call, but. Yeah, Cole's saying, honestly, maybe he doesn't care about the NFL. If he doesn't care about the NFL, then of course, like do whatever you want, you're going to get NIL money.

It's all good. But if you care about playing in the NFL at all whatsoever, I cannot imagine that his stock is going to be higher versus his peers in a quarterback class than it is going to be right now. It's probably been overwhelming for him, too. Think about him. He was a basketball player that ended up in a bit of a surprising way, ended up playing college football.

No star kind of recruit from Grand Rapids, Michigan. ends up, like after a while, he sat a while and then won a D2 national championship at Ferris. Yep. And then it's like, okay, I'm going to go be a backup for Ole Miss. I can't believe that I'm going to be the backup for an SEC team. And then flash forward a couple months and it's like, brother, you might be a second round pick

or you're going to make $5 million in the NIL. That's a lot to process. It's pretty wild. It's pretty wild. So we are in college football. Yep. Okay. Ty Simpson, QB2 for both of us.

That's right. Talk to me about Ty. Yeah, Ty Simpson, man, definitely had a speaking of interesting decisions because he was just a one-year starter after sitting for three at Alabama and had a really good season there, despite this version of Alabama was bizarre to watch. They don't run the ball well. Their offensive line seemed terribly overrated. tie in a vacuum, his accuracy, you know, can come and go.

He would still, he'll sail throws. He's not the biggest guy. He's at 6-2-2-10. I want to see if he's actually on this sheet. I don't think, no, I don't think he was. I think he's around 6-2-10. Yeah, 6-1. Not small by any stretch of the means.

Just like mediocre size. took 30 sacks, which is 47th percentile based on his dropbacks. But when you look at what this guy could do, pretty effortless velocity. Like he can make these snappy throws. Yep. He will challenge defenders in these tight corridors, man. Relentlessly, relentlessly. I love watching him throw the intermediate middle of the field, Trevor.

A couple of quarterbacks ago, you mentioned how that opens up. up everything for an offense. Yeah. This guy was 43 for 60. That's almost 72 percent, 12.5 yards per attempt, seven touchdowns, no picks on throws between the numbers in the 10 to 19 yard range. Five big time throws, one turnover worthy play and a 95.4 passing grade on the intermediate middle of the field. Sizzling. This is the best middle of the field thrower in the in the class. No question about it. Absolutely sizzling. I think he's got some feel and agility in the pocket. He does. was hit a lot this year and I think he was hurt through this some of this year as well. He added 21 first downs with his legs in 2025, the good enough athlete to take off when he

needs to. And Alabama pass catchers dropped 30 passes from him. 30. And we all watched the games. There was plenty of those Ryan Williams like, wow. Wow, what is going on here? And I'm not making excuses for Ty Simpson, who missed plenty of throws, especially after October.

It felt like from Halloween on, Ty Simpson struggled. He did. He missed throws. He sailed throws. But Ty Simpson does things that coaching staffs are going to buy into. He's a good enough athlete. He's a leader. And he rips throws into tight windows in the middle of the field.

And this was in one year of starting, which makes his process of how, having to go back or not go back really convoluted. Like Ty Simpson could have went back, maybe not to Alabama, but to a different school, had a great year, and then been a top 10 pick. But on the flip side, starting over is tough if it wasn't going to be Alabama.

I agree, yeah. And you just said it. Why isn't Trinidad in this class? This class is not good. In my opinion, Trevor, after watching the tape and trying to think how an NFL coaching staff thinks, I think Ty Simpson still might go in the first round. I think so too. And I think the reason why is because I agree with a lot of the strengths that you already highlight in his game. And if you want to look at the negatives, I think the negative, there are two main negatives when it comes to Ty Simpson. The first one is you talked a little bit about the true ball placement and accuracy issues that he had in the second half of the season. When you watch Ty, he's got a little bit of like a high, again, like a high follow through. So it's not like his throw could could, could.

and more of like the middle of his arm instead of coming all the way through the ball. And the quarterback coaching thing is like you try to put your, you try to put your thumb in the opposite pocket, right? Like that's kind of like fundamentally. Now every, it's not like you're going to have the ability to do that every time. But when you kind of like come through the ball like that, then it allows you to really drive the ball instead of finishing high because if it comes out of your hand a little bit high

and you do a little bit of like what Tom Brady was talking about on the broadcast, the other day of like if your grip puts too much air onto the ball then it'll just continue to sail and you miss high so that to me is correctable and then the the other big issue with his game is how he played under pressure because he had a what was he under pressure grade 52.2 I think uh I have 53.7 but I might have taken all the no plays out so if you left the no play filter in then it's somewhere around like 52 53 PFF passing grade there's a drop pressure. Yeah. Yeah. And that is something that gets better the more, or it can get better. It doesn't always get better. But it can get better the more you play. And when he was playing really

well, he was playing really well against some of the, you know, like easier opponents he played. Now, certainly George is one of those where I thought he played well. And obviously, that's a big time opponent. But like, he played Oklahoma the first time. And Oklahoma was a really, tough game for him because Venables was throwing all sorts of shit at him that he had like he had not seen before and he was not ready for it but then when they played Oklahoma in the college football playoff he had like an 81.5 passing grade he was way better seeing that defense the second time and he had to he they were in a bad script well I know it was ugly early I'm like this is not the script you want to be in against Oklahoma's defense so I think that Ty Simpson whereas

he's not the most physically gifted quarterback that comes through as a prospect. I think the armed talent is absolutely there for him to start at the NFL level. I think he understands defenses, progressions, knows how to hang on to the ball, knows great timing of how to get through which player to, okay, now at the beginning, I need to be looking at this player, then this player, and then he is a backside dig master. He is, he is one of the only QBs in this class that will not only hang tough in the pocket, but also appropriately gets to backside routes with the appropriate timing to be able to take advantage to that, especially when it's, you know, like sale concepts to the sideline and then you've got a

backside dig with it. Well, okay, if the shallow defender is covered, if the vertical defender is covered, if the intermediate, or sorry, receiver is covered, well, that means that the middle of the field is open and he immediately turns his eyes and he immediately gets there. So all of these things for him are so, so impressive of just like quarterbacking, as I always hear Nate Tice from Yahoo Sports say, like advanced level quarterbacking, making protection calls before the snap, which was he, which he was doing, even at the beginning of the year throughout the end of the year, didn't really have any sort of run game to be able to lean on, dropped passes, let him down, but there's just too many things in his film that translate to the NFL level.

as a starter. I would love for him to go to a situation where he could sit. We got a super chat saying like, hey, the Rams situation. Ty Simpson going to the Rams, I think could really yield an impactful starting caliber quarterback in year two and year three of his is rookie contract. If he gets to go to the Rams and sit behind Stafford, and I know everybody would be like, okay, well, of course, like that's the best situation for any quarterback. True. But the way that Ty already approaches is the game. That's a landing spot where I think that you get a, you get a starter for multiple,

multiple years that you feel really good about. If he goes to situations similar to that. So I understand that there are reasons that tie struggled this year and some people are going to be a little bit lower on him. But I just think that he does the high level quarterbacking stuff way too well from this season to not have faith that he could do it in the NFL. So FFB for real just asked. If someone sits for three years to start their college football career, have any worries about them sitting right away for a long time and how little football that is being played it's a good point number one you know it feels like he's the outlier in that guys don't sit at any program three years and wait their turn they just leave to go play somewhere

right and he sat at alabama and waited his turn it's clear how much Alabama meant to him but also there was a lot of positives on his tape from him sitting those three years like you said getting the protections right, throwing with anticipation. So yeah, you do have to ask yourself, like, that's why I didn't understand the Dylan Rayola thing. I don't believe that sitting in college typically works. No. I think you need to play in college.

Yeah, you got to play in college. It's already at a Simpson's hands. For the most part, for the most part. Yeah. This is more of a question of like, arguing should he have gone back to school to play another year of college football. And I get that side of it.

I'm not arguing against that. Yeah, I don't understand somebody that it's in their hands like Rayola choosing to transfer to a place to sit. That I don't. I don't get it. I worked out for Dante Moore too. So maybe it's just an Oregon thing, right?

I mean, he transferred from UCLA to Oregon to sit behind Del and Gabriel, but also I don't think Dante Moore was ready. I think Rayola is kind of at a point where he would have needed to do that. Yeah, for a while. We thought he could be in the next class. Right, right.

So you like Simpson. I like Simpson. I truly see a starting NFL quarterback in him. Yeah, you brought up behind Stafford with the Rams. How about Rogers goes back to the Steelers behind him? Sure, depending on what direction the Steelers go. Yeah. Yeah.

Sure. That's the right pathway for Ty Simpson. Yep. Yep. I agree. So a lot of things to like about what Simpson's doing. A man that won't sit, a single day. Not one.

Not a single day is Fernando Mendoza, the quarterback of the now national champion, undefeated Indiana Hoosiers, the Heisman trophy winner from this year, and a player who was just a joy to watch, I think, throughout this entire season. Shout out to, I just talked about him before, but like Nate Tice, Corey Canaan, I know there's a lot of other, there's a lot of other guys out. there who really liked Fernetta Mendoza, had him as QB1 going into the year, but it's really cool to be a scouting is scouting is tough because you're weighing what a guy does well versus what he doesn't. Okay, what's going to translate, what's going to get better, what isn't. Maybe some things are going to get worse, worse the consistency, where's the ceiling. There's so many things that go into a player. And those guys, and I know some other people out there did as well, they were able to look at Fernando Mendoza and what he was at Cal, look at the landing spot with him in Indiana, and project him to

turn into a really great quarterback as their QB1 going into the season. And obviously, he flourished and blossomed into that. And it was really cool to watch the strengths of Fernando Mendoza really shine this year. Shout it to those guys and anybody else who was able to recognize that in the summer and from last year. But talk to me, Connor, about having him QB1. I have him QB1 as well, what you were so impressed from him this year. We're the strongest glue ever.

my favorite Fernando Mendoza quote of all the crazy post game quotes. That is my number one. What impressed me the most is obviously you and I watched him for summer scouting. And we saw the potential, but we weren't out in front saying like this guy could be QB1. The growth for Mendoza mentally and rep wise is incredibly impressive. The thing that, because he had that. talent when you watch the Cal film. The thing that I'm more blown away by is how damn tough he is.

Like the hits he has taken in big games, the opening of the of the Big Ten championship against Ohio State, the first quarter against Miami. This dude is almost robotically tough. It's like he just is so unfazed by getting punched in the mouth and is so ingrained in his process as a as a quarterback like specifically what he needs to do rep by rep as a thrower he's got a strong arm he throws with velocity he throws on time he's somebody to me that is so articulate in the red zone understanding the spacing of the defense and how to attack the defense and I don't think he has good foot speed.

It's actually one of my bigger concerns with him. But what he did to make himself a viable rushing threat, not a great mobile runner, but somebody that can pick up yards with his legs is not just the drawplay in the national championship. That was a very smart, timely call. And his passing ability in their run game, open that up.

But he understands what concepts are going to give him space to just go pick up free five, six, seven, eight, nine yards. And that he's a, his running ability is from his mental aspect of the game. It's not from his physical aspect of the game. And I like that he took advantage of that this year. Now, I mean, you see the deep ball. Like when he's got a clean pocket to throw the deep ball, it's strong, it's accurate. Some of the throws that he had to Charlie Becker, both on the go ball and the back shoulder.

I mean, we'll be talking about Charlie Becker. this summer. My God. He is, he is the best back shoulder thrower in this class for sure and one of the best college quarterback back shoulder passers that I've seen in a long time. Right. The armed talent that he has, the anticipation, the ball placement. It was unreal all year long. Yeah, it really was. And you could just see how after transferring, he got those reps in with Surratt, Cooper and Becker over and over again. And The thing for me with Mendoza, like if, and this is why he gets these comps, Jared Goff, right? When he's given time in a pocket, he could just carve you up.

He knows how to read coverages. He has a strong arm. He plays on time. Like when he sees everything in front of him. Where there's still some questions, or maybe it'll be an adjustment at the NFL, is going back to not having a ton of foot speed. He'll be pressured more. The Raiders' offensive line isn't very good,

even if Colton Miller's healthy. Indiana did such a great job with his development by being stubborn with the run game. They just, dude, on a, what, third down against... They ran the ball at the end of that game. and we're okay, not putting the ball. Well, that was dumb.

That was, that was dumb. But how many times do you see that? That they were comfortable not putting the ball in Fernando Mendoza's hands who just win the game. Now, Signetti made the right bet because Carson Beck was going to screw it up. But it was scary for a little bit. Yeah, I won't give him the credit for that. It was scary. I love, I love, I love Signetti.

He's just one of my favorite coaches, unbelievable year, all this kinds of stuff. I won't give him credit for that. It was shocking. There is no, there is zero. point to going up six. Anytime you make a one score game, a one score game, you just got to do it down the end, right?

He didn't think Miami's offense could get in the end zone. But once again, it was shocking to not see just put the ball in the Heisman trophy winner's hands. Because honestly, when Mendoza needed to make a play against Ohio State every time he made the play. So I've been so impressed with his

trajectory this year, his development. I don't think he's as talented as a lot of number one picks, right? He's not Joe Burrow. He's not the talent of Caleb Williams. He plays a completely different brand of football, completely different brand. I don't, I like Drake May better.

And Drake May wasn't even the number one pick in his draft. I agree. But Mendoza, in the right situation with a run game and protection, will be a professional quarterback that can carve you up as a pocket. pocket passer and is smart enough to challenge open areas of the field with his legs when he needs to. And it's clear his work ethic and intelligence is something that team should buy into because Indiana bought into it and look how it worked out for them. Yeah. I like Mendoza a lot, man. I went into building his full scouting eval and thought that I was going to be actually like

lower on him. I thought that I was going to be like, okay, well, I'll probably give this guy, like, late first or probably a second round grade, but he's going to go number one overall, just because, you know, he needs to go number one overall. I was actually really impressed with how he played. I think the, I think the arm is, I think the arm is plenty good. I think it's right in between, like, good and great. I think it's above average. To be honest with you, I think that he has long arms, but he still has a snappy release to be able to put some good velocity on it. I mentioned he's the best back shoulder passer in the class. I also think that he's so smart with how he sees coverages and exactly knowing when to get rid of the ball,

the players that he's watching that you're putting in conflict, the timing of things. I think that he knows how to be patient with those progressions as well if he's got to wait a little bit longer. I thought his ball placement was excellent. He had the highest amount of plus accuracy throws of any quarterback in this class, which a plus accuracy throw is either away from coverage or delivered in a manner in which the wide receiver can gain yards after the catch. He had the highest percentage of those in the class. 36.7% of his throws this year were plus accuracy throws.

That's, that is really high. That is really high. I don't think the Jared Goff comps fit. because I think he's a better athlete. I think he's got more scoot than that. Play style? Yeah, like, I hear what you're saying. Like, from the pocket, Jared Gough, yes.

But overall, like, there's a reason why they ran a lot of RPO's with him. He's got a lot of speed. Yeah. Now, now. I think it'll look different in the NFL. That's my, I don't know. That's tough. I don't think it's foot speeds very good.

I hope he runs at the combine because one that would be hilarious. That would be very funny. And compete, Mendoza. Come on, compete. But I think that I don't know. I just, I think he's more mobile than he gets credit for. So I think you see people got tricked by a fake tweet saying he was skipping the combine because he had a Wall Street internship. Yes, yes.

I did see that. I mean, people got played. Not me. No, of course not. Since the dummy shit I've ever heard. Sorry, guys. Wall Street internship. I'm going to skip the biggest interview of my life for an internship.

All-timer. His play. This is also why I don't think that Jared Gough comps fit well for him. 75.9 passing grade under pressure. Jared Gough can stink under pressure. Yeah, but Jerkopf's playing against Miles Garrett. I know. I'm talking about his prospects.

Okay. We're envisioning Jared Goff against the Eagles. Shailen Carter. I think, Mendoza against them. I do not think the Jared Ka. I was once on the, okay,

Mendoza's Jared Goff. I'm not there anymore. So you think Mendoza will be better than Goff? I think he can be. Yeah. I mean, like, look, I mean,

Goff has been a prolific passer with McVeigh and the lion. Right. I think golf almost become underrated. Yeah, a little bit. But like, I think Mendoza can have, absolutely be that. And I think that his ceiling as a player is more.

Yes. Because I think that he's going to play better under pressure and I think he's got a little added athleticism to him. Yes. Okay. I do think that there are, and you're not alone, and there's a lot of people out there that look at Mendoza and go, oh, what's the, you know, putting lipstick on a pig, you know,

to win the best looking award, right? Like, it's just like it's, you're just trying to make something of this quarterback class. I really do like Fernando Mendoza. Yeah, me too. I think he is a good quarterback prospect. I really do. So, yeah.

All right. There it is. The top eight quarterbacks. Yeah, some people are saying Matt Ryan, and he's got more scoot than Matt Ryan, to be honest. You know what's funny, though? I did watch some BC Matt Ryan when this came up a couple months ago, and I was like,

Matt Ryan was also more athletic than I remember. Guys, like players just changed so much. much, especially when they get to the NFL and every edge defender runs a four, five, five. Yeah. Yeah. It is different. But again, I got faith in Mendoza. I really liked watching him this year.

And I just think that he plays the, he plays the position super tough, very high football IQ, great anticipation and recognition. And I think he's got a good enough arm to really threaten. I mean, he had the best deep passing grade in all of college football. So he's got the highest amount of, yeah, he's got the highest amount of, he's got the highest amount of plus accuracy he throws, so he's got one of the best ball placement. He's fantastic under pressure. He's got the highest passing grades under pressure.

And you can throw the deep ball. I think, man, I like Mendoza. I like him. I gave Mendoza a first round grade. Yeah. I didn't think that I was going to going into this exercise, but he impressed me a lot more than I thought he was going to. And I think that the Raiders, again, just to close it out, I don't think the Raiders are

like the first losers in this regard. just to pick the best quarterback in bad class. I think it drops off pretty significantly after Mendoza, but I think Mendoza, I think Rader's fans should be pretty pumped to get this guy. Yes. I think he's going to be good. He should be a quarterback that an organization is buying into

to be their franchise guy. Yeah, yeah. Now, they have a lot of work to do, though, man. I'm a little nervous right now. Oh, sure, sure, sure, sure. Watching how Indiana plays versus where they are as an organization right now, they have a lot of work to do. team picking number one, of course.

You know, when it comes to this quarterback class versus some veteran options, Kyler's going to be available, I think, two is going to be available. Maybe you could trade for Mack Jones. You could sign Malik Willis, right? Malik Willis is a free agent. Aaron Rogers, potentially, right? We don't know what Aaron Rogers is going to do. Minnesota.

What for Aaron Rogers? Feels like he'll check on that one more. Yeah, go the full Brett Farv route. Sure, why not? I think that it is Mendoza. You think about Ty Simpson, but then it's basically like a lot of these other veteran quarterbacks are basically QB3 in this class, in my opinion. Is that where you would have the line as well?

Yeah. Yeah. I am, and so are you, intrigued by Trinidad. I am very intrigued by Trinidad. Not like week one starter, Trinidad Chambliss. Right, right. But even Arc player Trinidad Champlain. But even Trinidad.

And I think that this maybe is the case with basically everybody other than the Raiders is going to have to look into the veteran quarterback market. Yep. Everybody. Everybody is going to have to. Because even Ty Simpson, you're not going to feel good enough about Ty Simpson where you're just going into this draft going, well, we're going to get Ty Simpson. No. I don't think that any team is going to do that. So I think that maybe it's better to say that the veteran quarterback market is probably QB2 in this class.

And then you have, you know, Nuss, Chambliss, Simpson, that are good developmental options for you. But basically after Fernando Mendoza, you're looking at the veteran market is probably the next best thing. Yep. There we go. We would love to hear you guys' takes on our takes. Best way to do that. Comment section or the NFL at C Discord as well. If you're not in there, we've got a link to join the Discord.

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going to be an awesome week our content schedule of course would be a little different we won't be live monday at 430 because we will literally be on our way to mobile so keep that in mind we hope to do something Wednesday morning. That's what we're trying. That's what's our goal right now. Of course, a massive snowstorm is hitting the Northeast Sunday and Monday. Which is great.

Yeah. I just, I can't wait for that. I'll be in Mobile at some point. But yes, we are hoping to recap day one, which is Tuesday on Wednesday morning. And then as tradition,

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