NFL Stock Exchange: An NFL Draft Podcast - Early WR Rankings for 2026 NFL Draft

Episode Date: December 18, 2025

Join our discord to connect with us and fellow addicts! https://discord.gg/WMJFjz4DQP timestamps: 0:00:00 Intro 0:12:36 Malachi Fields, Notre Dame 0:18:52 Germie Bernard, Alabama 0:25:19 Skyler Bell, UCONN 0:30:28 Chris Brazzell II, Tennessee 0:34:54 Chris Bell, Louisville 0:40:36 Deion Burks, Oklahoma 0:45:06 Elijah Sarratt, Indiana 0:53:14 Ja'Kobi Lane, USC 1:00:17 Western and Southern Financial Group 1:01:29 Superchats! 1:08:22 Omar Cooper Jr., Indiana 1:15:05 KC Concepcion, Texas A&M 1:21:40 Denzel Boston, Washington 1:26:23 PFF Betting Tools 1:28:54 Makai Lemon, USC 1:35:56 Carnell Tate, Ohio State 1:41:17 Jordyn Tyson, Arizona State 1:47:37 Outro Follow us on X: https://x.com/NFLSEshow https://x.com/TampaBayTre https://x.com/ConnorJRogers PFF's Mock Draft Simulator! https://www.pff.com/draft/nfl-mock-draft-simulator Help the show by going to subscribe.pff.com and using the code: holiday30 You get 30% off an annual subscription at checkout AND you help the show out a ton! We appreciate each and every one of you ADDICTS :) Thanks to Western and Southern Financial Group for sponsoring today's episode. For business or other inquiries, reach us at [e-mail] Hosted by Simplecast, an AdsWizz company. See pcm.adswizz.com for information about our collection and use of personal data for advertising.

Fine, I'll say it. The red chimmy cherry at Chipotle sucks. Get it the hell out of here. Overrated. Couldn't fundamentally disagree more. I think that was written in to trigger you, honestly. You started to like shake a little bit when you were reading it. Can't get much for five bucks these days. You can get in Trevor's mine rent free. Not mine. Not mine. Yours.

This is a steel trap right here. Nothing gets in. Nothing gets out. There are good sauces. There are bad sauces at Chipotle. And then there's 50 feet of crap. and then there's the red Chimmy Chirry. Odd Esme, I'm going to get Chipotle tonight with the Chimmy cherry sauce.

And I'm going to take a picture. I'm going to put it in the Discord because I know you're in there. I'm going to put it in the Discord and be like, this fraud estimate in the chat earlier today. Odd Estimate has sparked an absolute demon. Welcome to the opening bell of the NFL Stock Exchange podcast, powered by the Chimmy Cherry sausage, Chipotle, as you guys saw there from the cold open. What an exciting day it is here on the channel, Connor. We get to embark on the early position ranking,

starting with a fan favorite, and that is, of course, the wide receiver position. Everybody's got takes on wide receivers. Everybody knows the wide receiver type that they like, the ones that are successful, the ones that aren't. It's going to be takes on takes on takes here on this show. How you doing, my friend? I'm excited, man.

I love this show. This is a real staple of, of our entire fabric here this episode. It was hard to stop, like watching because it's early wider. We made a pack. We're like, we're going to do top 12s. Yeah. And we'll build upon it.

I'm sure we'll have 30s by the time we do the final wide receiver rankings. Right. But man, this is a deep group every single year, no matter what the class is. You and I were up until the wire navigating who's in the portal, who's declaring, who's not. It's been freaking nuts, dude. but today's going to be awesome. Full transparency for what Tyler or what Connor is talking about right there. Omarian Miller is the wide receiver from Colorado.

He's a very talented player. He got on our radar late. Corey from Daft on draft shouted him out to me. And I let him, I let Connor know. I was like, hey, I think this guy really could be an NFL player. We spent the last couple of days watching a lot of guys, him included. And then 15 minutes before we go live on this show, he's in the portal. Okay, great, great.

Glad I, glad I built a full scouting report for him. and now he's going to go in the portal. But to be honest with you, probably good that he went in the portal because I think he's got a chance to be a potentially, honestly, man, like a certified first rounder next year. We'll see. But man, like he's got a lot of talent. He's got to hone in on it and make sure that he's fully healthy for next season.

But you're right. This is a lot of fun. We limited it to our top 12s right here because sort of like we said a couple of weeks ago when we were talking to you guys about the positional rankings coming back around. We want to get to as many positions as possible before we get to Shrine and Senior year bowl weeks at the end of January. We've done a bad job of doing that over the last couple of years and it feels like, oh, okay, well, we got to like three or four. And for a lot of you out there that sort of depend on this show to set a primer for what the class could be like, we feel like we're

doing a disservice to you guys if we're not able to cover most, if not all of the positions, before we get to that point of the calendar. So that's what we're doing here. That's why we're doing 12. We will do more on the final position ranking good episodes when we get to March and April. But very excited for this one. You want to fire off a couple of early super chats that we have here on this show before we dig into our top 12s? Let's do it. Lou Giordano, thank you for the $5 super chat, specific to the wide receiver position. How much do NFL teams value skill sets that supplement their existing group, example,

a big X type across from Garrett Wilson? It depends on the coach, because when you look at Mike McDaniel, he's a guy that didn't mind replicating similar skill sets. When you look at the speed of obviously Tyreek and Waddle and then even having Malik Washington as depth on their roster. But then you look at the Texans, for instance, you have Nico Collins and Jaden Higgins is the bigger wide receivers, but they drafted Jalen Knoll and obviously Tankdell's been hurt, but they've always had, I think, a lot of balance there as well.

So the Patriots are another, they have a very wide variety of different types. I could do this all day, but it really depends on the coach and how they kind of like to either compliment each other or just have a certain skill set that they can use over and over again. Yeah, there's really three different types of receivers that you could have, X receivers, Z receivers, and slot receivers. An X receiver is somebody who's going to play on the line of scrimmage. There's somebody who needs to block well, get off press well. Z receivers are sort of those move receivers where, yeah, they're outside receivers, but they're off the line of scrimmage, which means they can have a little bit of cushion between them and press. You can move them in

and out you can move them before the snap you can get them in motion all that kinds of stuff and then slot only guys are the guys that you know you not necessarily going to win the size but you want them to win with that quickness those two-way goes things like that so within those three receiver positions I think that you put it perfectly it really varies from team to team some teams look at a certain receiver and you kind of have to check the box of like okay we need at least one guy we know we could put on the line of scrimmage right the size to be able to do that but after that you could have like a wide some teams you could have a wide receiver room with like the same guys after that. So it really does depend team to team, but really good first question that we had

there. Jay Cross, five dollar super chat. No stock up episode. When the Bears are finally good is a conspiracy theory that only big tucks could orchestrate. Love the show boys. We appreciate it. Bears obviously having a hell of a year. So there's the recognition there for the Chicago Bears. The Saturday. Yeah, baby. Saturday NFL. Wait, do you like, do you like Saturday NFL? Love it. I do too. Love it. I, as much as I love and work college football um i wish there was even more of it i think what'll happen is when we have a 20 game NFL season which will happen in our lifetime yeah we'll have some like opening weekend will be in august i think and we'll have some saturday NFL games as bookends

you think yeah i think so oh who who who they're kind of the bully right now taking christmas from the NBA. That's true. What do we have three games on Christmas? Yeah, they do not. Christmas is supposed to be the NBA's holiday. Kind of is. Tough. Whippersnapper, squirt. Yeah, the NFL is given the NBA. Big guy. All right, pal. Yeah, yeah. Hey, buddy, play your little basketball game. Why don't you go sit there on the end of the bench? Yeah. Get us some water. So, All right. Tony Lee, thank you for the $10 super chat. How's it going, champs? Happy wide receiver day. Who has been your favorite wide receiver to scout since you guys have started NFL S.E?

You know what? I'm actually going to go a different direction with this one really quick off the top of my head. It's actually somebody that was a scouting lesson for me. JJ Arthago, Whiteside. Oh, I like that. From Stanford. Honestly, he's my favorite wide receiver that I've ever scouted because he's taught me the most because he was somebody who I watched him just be a power forward. on the outside as an ex-receiver and in the red zone. And he was just able to box out and body these guys.

I mean, his parents both played high, I believe, like D-1 basketball. You know, he just had that basketball player's mentality to him. And I was like, this guy's, of course he's going to win in the NFL. He even had a little bit of quick footwork to get off the line of scrimmage. And that's like all I needed to see to basically say, this dude's going to be an absolute stud. And because he failed to be even a baseline separator when it came to his routes, he was washed out of league pretty quickly

and so that's probably the one that comes to my mind because there's there's guys that we've hit on that are fun to look back on but it's the ones that teach you something moving forward that I think are the most impactful ones I like that a lot that's a really good way of looking at it I'll take the other end of it

I loved watching Jim R Chase because I thought that he just truly had everything you could ever ask for in a wide receiver prospect because he was really good good before the ball was in the air. He had excellent ball skills. He was dangerous after the catch.

I thought he played bigger than his 6-1 frame. He played like a 6-4 wide receiver, but he moved like a 5-10 wide receiver. Yeah. You know, he kind of had a different attitude out there on that LSU team. So that was the one that I had the most joy watching. But I like yours, Trevor.

I'll think on that because I've had a couple, too, that you take away a lesson of like, man, I missed on that guy, and now I've been scared to go back to that well. Everybody knows Mike Wilson recently, my boy. Oh, yeah. It was a lot of fun to watch. DeSauder, five-dollar super chat for him. SummerPod idea, full scouting report and film breakdown on the players and coaches from Blue Mountain State.

If you know, you know. If you watch the episode, you get it. And that would be a funny one. Blue Mountain State was on in my sophomore year common room, I mean, almost 24 hours. Pretty much constantly. Yeah. Yeah, it was like on loop. Adam, thank you for the $5 super chat.

Hey, Pip Squeaks. Do either of you have a good witch doctor recommendation looking for? to put Rivers Brain in Anthony Richardson's body, Drake May. I like where your headset. Yeah, go watch Frankenstein on Netflix. An experimental surgery on the cutting edge could save the Colts franchise. She have a $10 super chat here. Hey, Trevor, Trevor Sycamma, and Connor, J. Rogers, got the J in the view, Rogers.

Mark my words, Kevin Casey Concepcion, Concepcion, will lead all rookie wide receivers and touchdowns and yards. I love y'all, Drake May. Yeah, look, Casey Concepcion will be talked about here in this very podcast. I think you'll hear about him on today's podcast, Sheave. Brady, thank you for the $5 super chat. Well, if it isn't my two favorite little men. All right, watch it.

Somebody's going to call us the NBA here soon because of what you said at the top of the show. That's right. Yeah, just getting bullied off of holidays. Whenever you all do tight ends, check out Terrence Carter, Jr. from Texas Tech, legit yak ability, and solid blocker. I actually watched not one but two players in the Texas Tech offense for this episode today. But I have not individually watched Terrence Carter. Honestly, I just love their defense.

I have not really like that hot on their offense at the moment, but man, the Texas Tech, which is such a funny thing to say about Texas Tech. Is Terrence Carter the giant one? Is you word number seven? Because I remember watching their wide receivers because we watched Caleb Douglas and Reggie Virgil, who are the two wide receivers that are going to... He's number seven, but he's only six foot two.

Oh, okay. But he had a lot of production. He had almost 600 yards. It looks huge on tape, which is all that matters. You just want to look, you just want to look huge on tape. That's the most important. Two more here, and then we'll get to wide receivers. Nick, $20 Super Chat said,

put this towards a plane ticket to Madison to teach Luke Fickle how to build a roster. God bless the Badgers. I think Luke Fickle probably still knows more football than we do. Last one, Aud Esme, $5. Yeah. Red Chimmycherry is the Jamarcus Russell of Chipoli sauce has changed my mind, but don't have to, Audrey Gassmay. You're no longer living in my mind.

I'm just going to take whatever you don't eat and eat it myself. Let's get into wide receivers here. Top 12. We're rolling through all these guys today. Obviously be some overlapping that we have here. Connor? Wow. The honors are mine?

The honors are yours. Am I going just individually at the moment? Yeah, I think that's probably the best way to. do it we didn't talk through that with uh our our chef and producer tyler and so i don't want to uh throw a curve ball at him here and we should probably just go uh one by one and obviously the guys that you will name at a certain spot i'll good chance i'll have somewhere so there'll be a little bit of an overlap but yeah go ahead okay so number 12 for me uh 20 minutes ago was amarian miller from colorado he is now in the transfer portal so that bumps up fortunately for this exercise i was able to

watch, I think 18 wide receivers. There's guys, a couple of guys that I missed, though, that could be in yours, where I'm like, I know this player's good, but I don't know if they're going to be in the draft yet. So now bumped up to 12 for me is Notre Dame's Malachi Field. Hey, getting the call up. Get in the call up. Yeah, yeah, that's right.

Into the top 12. Welcome to the big leagues, Malachi Fields. Oh, there he is. Now, this was a close call at 12. It was between full transparency, three players that are all ironically big physical wide receivers in Fields. Ian Strong from Rutgers and Bryce Lance from North Dakota State. And I want to watch more of Lance. He's the one of the three that I've watched the least of.

But I have seen some of him where he was in consideration for this. Fields is, man, number one, you see the size right there, 6, 4, 220. And does he use every bit of that physicality? He's not someone that's consistently running away from people. He's a bully at the catch point. He's got big, strong hands. I wouldn't be surprised if he has 10 plus inch hands at the NFL combine. He can go up and just snag the ball out of the air,

like snatch it and bully ball his way at the catch point. His ability to time as jump as well really stood out to me. And this is someone that can just be a quarterback. helper in terms of i'm going to put the ball up make a play for me and he does so i really liked what i saw now i watched him over summer as well and because he was a transfer let me pull up the summer notes before i get to some of the notre dame stuff he transferred from virginia um and he had over 800 yards last year and five touchdowns and he caught about over 50 percent of his contested catch opportunities and he had over 800 yards the year before that so he's been a very

productive player at the college level for a while he's a filled out guy like he's got an NFL body it's not just six four two 20 it's a rocked up six four two 20 he knows how to use his back and his broad shoulders to really shield in one-on-one coverage i thought corners had a tough time even when they stayed in his hip pocket to get around him or fight through him to knock away at the football and I like what he can do for you without the ball in the offense and what I mean by that is if you play him close to the formation or even out wide you can ask this guy to block a lot and that's really really important for a lot of NFL offenses right now so malachi fields he's somebody that can be that quarterback helper he's a physical player in the blocking game

he's a possession kind of player he's not going to take the top off the defense he's not going to be this overly dynamic screen player. I think some of his routes do fall into the habit of bullying through people rather than trying to be twitchy or silky smooth. And he's not the fastest player. But I think as a possession number three or four in an NFL offense, Trevor, I really like this player. And we have three years of productive tape from him now.

Yeah, Lou in the chat saying a rocked up six four, two, 20 is how people often describe me. I have said that about you, Lou. Yeah, yeah. 20 more pounds. You said I'm 5, 9, 2.10. And you'll be able to host the pod there. But look, there's, there are for a possession wide receiver, this guy pretty much brings what you want to the table. I mean, he's a 17th percent. 17th percentile, excuse me, separation against single coverage, which by the way, when you guys see the graphics on the screen, we're always trying to use two-year sample sizes for these players. You know, we'll talk about a lot of these metrics here that you'll see on the screen, a lot of other things that we'll just talk about in

conversation. And we have these numbers at PFF that we would consider like stable and unstable metrics. A lot of the numbers that you're going to see on the graphics are coming from our stable metric category, which means if you have a two-year sample size, so a higher volume of sample size, so you have a bigger volume to work with, if you do these things well in college, a good chance you'll still be able to do them somewhat well in the NFL. If you don't do them well in college, it's really hard to think that out of nowhere, you're just going to be good at it. So when you look at Malachi Fields and his profile, he just missed my top 12. He was sort of in that category of guys who are right in this mix to get the top 12, but he wasn't quite in

mind. I see him very similarly the way that you do. Really good size, really good blocker. I mean, he can engulf some defenders when it comes to the blocking game. He looks like an H-back when he blocks. He, dude, some of these blocks are awesome from him. So going back to what we talked about before, I have him categorized as that X on the line of scrimmage sideline type of receiver. He can go up and get it. He's got the long arms to him. He's got the long frame. She's not a big separator.

And sometimes I feel like I wish he moved with a little more twitch. Like some of these guys who also have size who are a little bit higher than him, they're a little bit twitchier. They have a little bit better change of direction. But he's pretty high-wasted. He's got those long legs to him, which match the long frame that he has. And he just kind of is what he is. And I thought you said it very well.

the chance to be a wide receiver three, wide receiver four is a possession type of wide receiver who's going to be able to make an NFL team because of how good he is as a blocker. So I think that this is a really solid, solid start for us here with Malachi Fields at number 12. I didn't blow it. No, you did not. No, no. Oh, the shove is ruined. Pick the great football player.

Although I will say, you had Omari and Miller at 12. He was five for me. I would have been some good discourse. So that would have been some fun discourse there. But oh, now you got, now you guys got to stay subscribed to the channel and you've got to tune into 2027. Now you've got to stick around for 2027 to hear that. One last note on Malachi Fields.

Bork Bork Borkington makes a really good point in the chat. He said we'll get a great look at him in Notre Dame's bowl game. Yeah, it's true. He's got one more game. I don't know why we put the stats up there. He's got one more game. Just kidding. Notre Dame decided to

I love it pout about it take our ball and go home screw you guys I love it I hate it I think it's so funny I hate it

I hate it also they were one of like 14 big programs that did that yeah I know and Notre Dame was really the only one that people cared about yep

yeah okay so number 12 for me Connor I have I'm nervous Jeremy Bernard from Alabama oh wow yeah yeah you say that as if

it's one of two things either he's way lower for you or he's way higher for you he's higher not like egregiously higher but a similar range of our Omarian Miller differences okay well I know exactly I guarantee I know exactly

why you have him here and I think the tier gap it's funny because the tier gap's not as crazy as the actual number gap so where do you have him because when the graphic is up there oh the graphic is up there so it'll show I have him sixth okay so you have him six

I have him too here the chef It's just, no, he's cooking. He's so good. I don't even know what to say anymore. The consensus ranking, by the way, guys, that you will see on the graphic comes from the mock draft simulator. So Tyler used where their average draft position was in the MDS and the results that we have there. He went and he got in the basement. He talked to Mike McCarthy.

He looked at the database of where these wide receivers are drafted. So the consensus mark is where they are drafted in the mock draft simulator. So Conner's got him six. I got him 12. I think that this is a really solid prospect, like 6 foot 1, 205, 210 pounds. It's right around like middle of the pack for a wide receiver. He initially started at Michigan State before I think he was there for one year, moved over to Washington.

He was at Washington in 2023, so he was one year at Washington. Then when Kailin DeBore, the head coach who was at Washington, went to Alabama, he transferred over to Alabama with him. I think the number that really stands out to me with, Jeremy Bernard is the receiving grade versus zone coverage that you guys can see there. It's an 81.1. And I think that's a really solid score. And then you see the separation percentile overall that's 83rd percentile.

So that takes zone reps into effect as well. I just think that that's what he does best. He is a very savvy wide receiver, understands how to find the soft spots in the zone. Very clearly, Alabama needed him and his high football IQ badly in this passing attack. because Ryan Williams was very unreliable and it felt like, I mean, it took a while for Josh Quavis to even get involved in the passing game as well. So there wasn't a lot of a lot of consistency in Alabama's offense outside of Jeremy Bernard. And they use him in a variety of different ways. Six foot one, two and five pounds means that I have him categorized

as that Z receiver because I think he could play on the outside and I think he could play in the slot. So Alabama will move him all around. He's a really nice route runner. The thing with is Connor, he's got a high cut frame, so it's not like he's like creating a ton of separation. You see the separation versus single coverage is 57th percentile. I just don't think he does anything like at an elite level. And I always get worried about receivers like that. Sure, we can look at them at the college level and just say, hey, this is just a good football player.

Let's just draft good football players. But on the other side of the coin is getting lost in the shuffle and kind of just being a Jag, just a guy, as the acronym stands for when we talk about that in scouting. So I think that Bernard is better than that. I'm giving him more of the benefit of the doubt there. I think this is an NFL player, but I just get, I just have some hesitation with how much he's really going to be able to stand out at the NFL level. So that's my concern with him, but also some of the things that I think he does well. To me, he's got one of the highest floors of any of these, you know, tier two, tier three wide receivers that we're going to talk about here. I think that's a good way to

put it he catches everything i mean there's a world where he he does have some of the best hands i thought um as you see the the 98th percentile drop rate it shows up on tape how reliable he is he's a weird one because you're you take him knowing the limitations but i said a couple weeks ago he reminded me a lot of jarvis landry where he's just an outlier in a sense of he's not going to be this dynamic athlete, but he's so tough, he's so reliable, he's fearless working at any level of the field. I don't really think he cares about getting hit at all that I'm like, you know what, I'm going to bet on him. I am, not to be a top five receiver in this class necessarily, but if he goes in the third round and ends up being a team's number two for a long time,

I won't be shocked at all. He's somebody that you're betting on the intangibles a little bit with for sure. And I think that you having him at six obviously is different than me having him at 12, but it's an interesting way to set up this entire conversation with not just the wide receiver class, but this entire draft class of this this 2026 class, the ceiling for it is lower than it is for most years in the draft. Right. So you're going to have a very difference of differing opinion between draft analysts of are you going to shoot for the guys who have the higher ceiling you're just going to take a chance on them you're going to say okay well then there are you know prospect four or five or whatever or are there are going to be some draft

analysts to say no no no okay in a class that's not really as filled with players you go yeah this guy's going to be an NFL player for sure are guys going to gravitate a little bit more towards the higher floor for these and I think that what we see in our rankings even right here is a little bit of the variance of how that conversation is going to go over the next four to five months I'll give you another name with Bernard. And these are the names you kind of have to hang your hat on and hope he becomes if you're drafting him this early. It's Jacoby Myers.

You know, once again. I mean, if he could be Jacob Myers, that would be great. Like, it's not flashy, but man, the guy is always in the right spot. He's one of the smarter receivers in the NFL. He catches everything. He's tough with the ball in his hands. I'm definitely higher on him than you. But I do think there is going to be a big divide on him

because he just won't look as dynamic. as other guys in this class two things one he's going to the senior ball so we'll get to see him up close and personal and we can sort of judge the game speed the play speed the practice speed in person which i think is really helpful one-on-ones yeah and then and then of course the combine as well how he ends up testing athletically i think uh because if if he starts to check these athletic boxes man i really do think the consensus is going to be a lot closer towards where you have him currently ranked than where i than where i do i'm just a little bit more hesitant on it um as it stands today Who you got at 11? Who's next for you?

Okay. So keeping it moving here at 11 for me is Skyler Bell from Yukon. Okay. And this is a dynamic player when we're talking about there's going to be a lot of guys on this show where we're like, I don't know if he's fast enough, but I like how he plays and he's reliable. When you watch Bell and Yukon's offense, they kind of treat him almost like he's Zay Flowers in a way. Totally. And what I mean by that is it's like, how can we be as creative? as possible to constantly find ways to just get the ball to Skylar Bell. Whether it's off motion, whether it's a screen, a bubble, in the slot, we'll play

him out wide, we'll play him in the backfield, they'll just do literally whatever they can to build the entire plane out of Skylar Bell. And for good reason, honestly, when you watch him play, he's really, really impressive. Redshirt Senior originally at Wisconsin, transfers to Yukon. He's listed 6'1.85, as you see right there. He's definitely a more slender player. This is someone this year had almost 1,300 yards. He had over 100 catches, 13 touchdowns, a finalist for the Balikinoff.

What's crazy to me, Trevor, for his skinny frame, he has the Devante Smith contested catch ability, where it's like, this doesn't make any sense, but he finds a way. I mean, he's 20 and 37 on contested catch opportunities the last two seasons. His ball skills are out of this world. when they give him a chance. If you're into yards per route run, which is a nice tool, it's not the end-all be-all,

but it's definitely a nice tool. I know we have up there from the last two seasons, he's been 86 percentile. He took a really big jump this year. 3.15 was 91st percentile. He improved in two big areas. His yards per outrun

in terms of his overall efficiency and production was higher. And his drop rate is a wild difference. He went from a 13.1% drop rate in 2024 to a 3.8%. And that's why you see the median right there on the graphic. But like that to me was like, this dude is getting a lot better. He is clearly spending hours and hours on the jugs machine. You can play him everywhere.

Like I said, he had 23 snaps in the backfield this year, 223 in the slot, 434 out wide. the production is a little inflated because of like i won't call it malachi corley because i'll never do that to anyone but there's malachi corley plays in there sure you know what i mean no i'm in into you know build off of that he has what's his is yards after catch he's 91st percentile yards after catch of of 7.6 average over the last two years a lot of that is because of the average step the target like you go back and you watch his plays he's getting the ball on screens or quick slants or whatever it is. And he's kind of just running in a straight line because the offense is set up for him

to do that. It's not like he's this super dynamic athlete after the catch. So yes, that's, I'm glad I brought that point up. I forgot I wrote it down. 85 of his 140 targets came into zero to nine yard range. Yeah. So you have to factor that in. But I actually think there's a bigger NFL ceiling for him because of how good his

ball skills are. I just don't know if he'll be strong enough to get off. the line of scrimmage playing on the line so so that's why his usage shows him as an outside receiver a good amount this past year i have him categorized as a slot receiver i would agree with you because i think that it's it's those it's those little like shifty and short area bursts are how he wins and i think you get to win consistently like that in the slot and then like you said you don't really have to face true press coverage a lot when you were in the slot. So I have him as wide receiver nine. So I also like him a good amount. But what worries me is the one year wonder of production

this year. The catch percentages were pretty low in his career outside of this year. And if what we get this year is what we get in the NFL, I think that'll be great. But I'm just a little bit hesitant on him because of that. Other than that, though, not just a strong route runner, a savvy route runner he will use tempo in his routes all the time where it's like okay he's kind of running you know 60 65 percent setting this guy up boom okay now I'm going 100 and it's just like it's the varying speeds to do the subtle little things to create separation that's how you get a pretty high separation percentile score that he has had the past year because it's 38th percentile uh where what was it 70th percentile overall over the last two years it goes up the

84th percentile overall, if you just look at this past season. So a shifty dude, a smart route runner, a highly productive player, but one that I do think probably has to play in the slot to continue to be successful in the NFL. Who was 11 for you? Who was 11 for me? So he was 9 for you, Skylar Bell. Okay.

Yeah, that's a great question. Who was 11 for me? Oh, Chris Brasel from Tennessee. This was one of the players that I have not. evaluated yet. So I know it says outside of the top 12, but I have not. I watched 18 receivers. This was the one when I was done where I was like, that would have been the next guy that I really need to get to. So Chris Brasel is very interesting. He is a redshirt junior, but he did officially declare for the draft. He is six foot five, a legit six foot five, 200 pounds. Now, he played at

Tennessee, but he was at Tulane. It originally, he redshirted his first year, had eight starts to next year, transferred to Tennessee, really struggled in his first year when he was at Tennessee. And then this past year, though, he, he was fantastic, when it comes to him being a deep vertical threat. And that's really what he is as a receiver. He is an on the line of scrimmage X type of a dude, but he really is a vertical wide receiver. Now I know what you're saying. Oh, a tall vertical receiver in Josh Heiple's Tennessee offense, those have definitely worked before. Let me go ahead and draft. me one of those once again.

I like Chris Brasel, at least his potential, much more than I liked Jalen Hyatt. I was not a fan of Jalen Hyatt. I thought a lot of his production was very clearly schemed up to mask a lot of the weaknesses that he had, particularly with him as a route runner, not being able to break on routes and sink his hips. I also like him more than I liked Deontay Thornton last year. And the reason why is because Brasel is inconsistent, but when he really wants to, the way that he could chop his feet, flip his hips

and change direction at six foot five, 200 pounds, that's the stuff that is difference making. I think he has one cut ability as a route runner that all of these other vertical outside wide receivers that we've seen at Tennessee throughout the hypo area, or

era, have. And so he's, the play speed, the vertical speed, that's where he is going to win. And he has been dominant at that, truly like this season. I think that he has been fantastic in that area. The issue is that

there's all sorts of inconsistencies with all of it. I thought he was hot and cold as a blocker, especially when he realized like, okay, the run play is not even coming towards me a lot. Like it was just very hot and cold. There were times when I felt like he was the first guy kind of like given up and jogging

or walking on a play before the whistle was blown. There are times when if he knows that he's not part of the route progression, if he knows that he doesn't really have a chance to get the ball, you just don't see that same play speed with him but when he turns it on that's an NFL looking wide receiver and that's somebody who could be extremely valuable as a deep threat type of a player so a lot of inconsistencies for him and even with contested catches and a higher drop percentage than you

want as you guys can see on the screen but this is a dude who I think vertically can really play in the NFL as a wide receiver three type it's just kind of going to come down to him and how much he wants to be consistent and how much he wants it? Because I think it is in there for him to be an NFL guy. Yeah, he's somebody that we've talked about on stock up shows. So I've watched him throughout this year because he was kind of blowing up. And it was like, is this guy going to be a top 75 pick all of a sudden? Yeah.

So I'm definitely really curious where I land on him for the final eval. And now that he's officially in the draft, I'm going to watch him over the next month. But I'm curious where he's stacked. So it's because we've seen this before, right? And you harped on like, no, he's actually. running real routes it's not the fake tennessee stuff he can he can at yes yes but everybody's going to have the like ah do i do this again right right so that's what's going to be fascinating with by the way his dad uh was a sixth round pick back in 1998 by uh your new york jets wide receiver

uh i don't remember i don't know what he played actually interesting he was only on the practice squad with the jets before he played with um the cowboys for a little bit he mainly played in the CFL. So he spent a little bit of time in the NFL, but he mainly played the CFL for his football career. All right. Number 10? Yes, sir. What's you got in number 10? Yeah, this will be one of the most polarizing players in this position group across the draft, and that's Chris Bell from Louisville. Is he 10? Eight. Okay, he's eight for you. Yeah, he's eight for me. So Chris Bell, who unfortunately tore his ACL at the end of November, it sounds like, which is a total bummer because what we love about Chris Bell is the kind of athlete Chris Bell is and you know,

ACLs now they get true. It's it doesn't drop you a day or anything like that. I was not in the camp that I saw very often saying Chris Bell was a first round wide receiver. I thought it was more of that top 45ish pick. Yeah. We'll see how the ACL affects him. But man, Trevor, this dude, 6-2-2-20, and he looks every bit of it. Louville kind of uses him the way the Steelers use DK Metcalf. Yeah, they do. It's like, hey, shallow crosser, okay, run 100 miles an hour and kill anyone in front of you. See, I know I have him wide receiver 8.

Like, I have him even higher than you, but like that's what I don't like. I didn't think you liked him, which I actually thought he was not going to be in your top 12. I don't love him. there's he's a weird athlete and like when i when i when i'm building my numerical like number for these guys when i'm watching their their their film i have i give him so many points for being an elite athlete i know so i give him all these points and then it's like he doesn't really run a lot of legit routes uh no

a lot of his production is just schemed up stuff i don't think an NFL team's gonna lean into that as much because not a lot of wide receivers that you do that for. So, yeah, this guy is, has so much athletic potential, but I agree with you. I think that his game is incomplete. I really do. Yeah, there's not, I actually thought the release package got a lot better this year. That was where I was like, okay, there's times where he's, he's kind of twitchy off the line and is getting into his routes.

And, I mean, he is the creteen protein wide receiver of this. class it is this dude is just jacked beyond belief he will run through people but it's not a ton of refined wide receiver stuff and they didn't need him to be because he ran away from so many people or ran through so many people he reminded me a ton of quincy and nunwa who had his career no way is that the comp you wrote down that's the comp i have in the draft guide right now dude wow that's crazy that's awesome i thought i was on to something with quincy and nunua i thought when you got done talking like right there i was i thought i was about to drop some knowledge on jett's knowledge hey you guys remember quincey and no it's it i mean i was never going to beat the

the the jets legend connor rogers at a jet's comp player we have had like zero day three picks that are really fun and quincy and nunua was one of them. of them. So he'll always, and got an extension. By the way, Quincy Anunwa at the Combine, 6-2-225. That's what Chris Bell is going to be. And he ran a 4-4-5. No, they're, brother. They're the same guy. They're the same player. And Anunwa got an extension from the Jets after a couple years where he was kind of just a developmental guy because of the exact stuff that Chris Bell does for Louisville. Which is going to happen because he tore his ACL. Right. So... Just run it back.

This is a Quincy and Nunea clone, and there will be an offense that values what he does. Just know you are getting more of a offensive threat than a refined wide receiver. And that's Chris Bell. By the way, literally everybody in the chat, whenever we bring up a wide receiver and start to talk about them at all, they go, it's Mike Evans. Just for every wide receiver. I saw that in the beginning. Is this the next Mike Evans? See, Peter in the chat, you said Chris Bell is the Quincy Anu of Mike Evans.

Peter also said, we have Mike Evans and Chris Godwin at home. New York Jets, Chris Brasel and Aryan Smith. Oh, man. That is, that's the good. That is the good. That's a good bit you guys should do with your friends, like close to the draft. When your friends start following like, oh, I'm hearing that, you know, carnell tates this guy's pretty good and you just walk in and go oh it's mike evans yeah but then when

they talk about jordan tyson do it again and see if they catch on to you oh i watched him he reminded me of mike evans it is really funny though all you know all jokes all jokes aside it is funny how when when you go through the draft process not just us when we talk about wide receivers. But listen to anybody and how they talk about a big wide receiver that they like. They're going to talk about the size. They're going to talk about the contested catchability. And they're going to say if they like them, probably that they're a little bit better of an athlete than they get credit for. Mike Evans. It's just, it is, it is very funny that the way that people talk about big receivers that they like every single year. It's just like, oh yeah, Mike

Evans. Oh, yeah. My comp's Mike Evans. I can't wait. I can't wait for my wide receiver nine. That's the Mike Evans. Who do you got with 10? Oh, if you say who I think that you're going to say, I'm going to be mad at you. I'm going to be mad at you. I'm going to be mad at 10. 10 for me. Are we at 10? We're at. Deion Burks from Oklahoma. Okay. Can't quit him. You love Dionne He's another guy have not done the full evaluation. I can't quit him, man. So he's a red shirt senior at Oklahoma.

Where was he before? He was somewhere before Oklahoma. Oh, he's at Purdue. He is 5'9, 180 pounds. All right. You see some of the numbers on the screen over the last two years with him at Oklahoma. You talked about how yards per route run

is a really good number to showcase how much a guy was emphasized in his offense. Dionne Burks, not a damn bit. 1.39 yards per outrun, fourth percentile. The average step to target, 6th percentile. The yards after catch per reception, 24th percentile. I don't care. Some of the worst analytics you'll ever see.

I don't care. The dude's got so much athletic potential. I just, I can't give up on this guy. If I go down with the ship, so be it. He was number 50 on Bruce Feldman's free. list in 2024. And this is what Bruce Feldman had to say. The 5'0.190 junior from Michigan was an excellent get for the Sooners. Burst proved to be their strongest wide out in squat, squatted 540 pounds. In the bench press, he benched 400. And the power

clean, he power cleaned 340. He also topped all receivers, pause, in jump height measured in forced plates based off his velocity at takeoff. This dude has an unreal amount of explosiveness that comes from the small frame that he has as a wide receiver. I think he played on the outside for Oklahoma as sort of that Z receiver as somebody off the line scrimmage. I think he's just probably a slot guy at the NFL level if he is a slot guy at all. But there are routes when I watch his film that he.

He will put his foot in the ground and either cut or accelerate in a way where I just go, that's an NFL wide receiver. Like that is somebody who actually wins on Sundays. And when you look at the, dude, it's not like the guy can't catch. Contested catch percentage over the last two years, 93rd percentile. Drop rate over the last two years, 95th percentile. They shouldn't throw him the ball. Right.

They just didn't throw this dude the ball. separation percentile overall 90th percentile 60.0 separation percent against single coverage that's 59th percentile the dude's open he can catch he's super explosive they never threw him the football I don't know man it's strange I won't I just I can't give up on him can't give up on him so we don't we don't we don't have an all-star game confirmation for him yet right last I checked didn't I didn't see anything we got all-sar I mean the senior ball wide receiver

roster is, I think, is full. Which, how did, how did Jim not get Dion at the Senior Bowl? I mean, that might be up to Dion. I don't know. I don't know. Although, I don't know. Looking at the Senior Bowl wide receiver list, like these, a lot of these guys were just more productive than him.

That's true. Whisko in the chat saying Dion pound for pound, Burks. Yeah, exactly. 100%. Jelly, hard to drop the ball. you never get it. Very true. Very true. The jante Wester of Mike Evans.

That's from Daryon. The Lejonte Wester of Mike Evan. That's really good. Man. You know what's funny. You guys are out of control today, man. When you walk around planet Earth, you wonder like, is, are there other people like me that this is just their life?

And then you go in this chat and you're like, yes. Yes, there are. A Lejante Wester mentioned. in the chat not just that but the legonte wester of mike evans it's perfect all right who do you got at number nine that i'm maybe mad about ryan he may not have produced and he may not do anything after the catch but at least he's five nine uh who are you look man who are you going to be mad about he's a crazy do you have chocby lane at nine uh no but close pretty hot no you're going to like nine nine is elisha sarat

Oh, hey, you're back in my good graces. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. I always knew I liked you. Right, you didn't doubt me for a second. Yeah, I did doubt you. I did, that was, you did doubt me. That was an unfortunate moment on the podcast where I caught in 4K doubted you. And you really came through, and I appreciate it.

And now it will live in podcast infamy. Yeah, well. Elijah Surat, you don't see a lot of college career. like this. And what I mean by that is this is somebody now that has had at least, well, he was hurt this year,

but he's going to play in the playoffs so he'll get over this number. He'll have four straight years of 700 plus receiving yards. I mean, just wildly productive with 2020, 13 touchdowns, 2003 and 2024, eight touchdowns each,

and he's already got 12 this year. And that's because everything he does is so detailed. Also, 6-2-213, he looks 6-4 on the field every time I want. I don't understand. He's either got the longest arms in the world for a 6-foot-2 person or... Damn, what prospect was it where the school was actually underselling them? There was one. And we were like, excuse me?

I cannot remember who that was, but I think it was in last year's school. class was it was it was higgins was it was higgins higgins was like over six five or something hold on let me let me look this up really quick because jaden higgins was listed he was six four and an eighth at the combine all right so he's listed six four at at iowa state so they didn't round up and give him the six five they could have and then how big was he what was it what did he way Maybe it wasn't Higgins. No, it was somebody else. I can't remember who, though.

Yeah, but I remember when that came out, you and I were both like, what are you selling your guy short for? Yeah, you got, you have to update this. It's one thing you have to do. Right. Anyway, Galaxy Brain Theory for, you know, move to boost stock. Elijah Suratman, physical wide receiver, really rely. He's very intelligent when attacking zone coverage.

He is one of those guys that a quarterback has so much trust in. When you watch Mendoza in this offense, there is an understanding of timing and detail with the way Elijah Surat plays in his routes. And I know the contested catch numbers weren't great. This year he was 8 to 24. He was 17 to 30 the previous year, and I think that's more indicative of who the player is.

obviously 83rd percentile yards per outrun over the last two years is a number that you really, really like to see. Reliable hands. He's just a very intelligent, reliable possession receiver. He's in the mold of a Jeremy Bernard, but he's been productive across a four-year stretch right now. And everything he does at Indiana translates to the NFL in terms of the intention of detail that matters.

And even when Mendoza's on the move, like this is a guy that has a guy that has. has that six cents with his quarterback to kind of go into the scramble drill. So adjustments high and low, high throws, low throws. He will go over the middle of the field as many times as you ask him and does not care about contact. So, yeah, I like Elijah Surat a lot. I think he's somebody that maybe the ceiling isn't outstanding as some of the guys in front of him, but he feels like somebody to me that's going to be a pro for a pretty good

amount of time. Yeah, I have him as wide receiver six. So obviously, I'm a big fan of his as well. Somebody in the, somebody in the chat was like, does he remind me you of Elk I. O. Manor a little bit, but I. O. Manor, I think, was faster in a straight line because he had the track background to him. And Credulous in the chat saying, like, a Pickens comp, no, there's, Pickens, pickens built a little bit differently. Pickens got a little bit longer arms. His body's a little bit different and I think his play style just like just playing with that sort of attitude is a little bit different as well but this is somebody who I love watching him play these are some of my favorite wide receivers to watch of these guys who have NFL size

who have a little bit more size to him or those outside wide receivers who Serrat he's not the most athletic guy in the world he's he's not going to be somebody who is really putting his foot in the ground is able to create a ton of separation vertically or really able to create separation in and out of his breaks because of athleticism. He's not going to be a high yards after catch guy, as you could see, below 50th percentile in yards after catch. But I think he's got really reliable hands. I think he's good in contested situations.

I think that he's got a variety of different releases off the line of scrimmage versus press, which is really, really important because if you don't threaten vertically with your speed off the line of scrimmage and cornerbacks know that they can recover on you pretty easily if you're beat, you better believe they're going to be very aggressive to get physical. Because think about it. If you're a corner in press coverage and you're lining up against a guy that you know has deep speed where if you go to punch them, whether one hand or two hand, whatever it is, if you want to punch them when the ball was snapped to really get hands on them and try to disrupt their release and disrupt their early route and you miss, let's say you swing your

hand in there and the wide receiver very quickly just breaks your hand or breaks, breaks where you're trying to punch and he's immediately swimming over the top of you and you've got to recover. If you have somebody who's vertically fast, you're not going to catch up to him. So you're going to be much less confident and aggressive when trying to get physical with them. If you're somebody like Elijah Surratt where that's not a big part of your game, well, then when guys try to be very aggressive at the line of scrimmage with you, what you have to do is you have to win cleanly in your releases. You have to have a nice two-step,

jab step, diamond release, split stance release, whatever it is to really just get these guys a little bit more on their heels. And there's not a lot of big guys that love to do that. And there's not a lot of big guys that have the foot speed

to be able to do that. I think Sarat does. So he's a very nuanced big man, which I always really love watching those nuanced big receivers. And so, yes, He's not a separation guy. A lot of his catches at the NFL level are probably going to be more contested than you want them to be.

But there's a reason why his nickname is Waffle House. And it's because his team and his coach says he's open 24-7. So love the nickname, love the player, love the game. I'm a big fan of Liza Sarat. Maybe a little bit in a way when Juju was at his best, they can win in similar ways. like just that they're the same size and kind of that like hey you could be a big slot for me you can play on the outside run the slant timing reliability aiden in the chat saying like so keen and allen i mean keen and allen to me is is kind of like best case scenario that's right you know like

i don't know if i'd comp him to keen and allen but that's kind of how he wants to win you know yep i like i like the i like the judy smith schuster comp i don't mind i don't mind find that one. I think that that one's a pretty decent one for him. Okay, so what am I up to now? Nine, but I, did we go over nine for you? I can't remember. Skylar Bell was nine for me. Skylar Bell was nine for me. And then Chris Bell was eight for me. So we're on to seven for me. Did I do, I have dots on eight. Eight for me was who you guessed at nine. That's Jacoby Lane. Okay. Where did you have? Okay, so he's not in your own. He is not in my top 12. this is maybe the hardest player to figure out in this group because

Jacoby Lane man we've seen this before tall smooth some of the most ridiculous hang time and catches you'll ever see yeah his spectacular stuff is indeed spectacular it's ridiculous it's like if you were picking a guy probably in the this episode to be on your flag football team it might be chikobi lane so it's really funny that you mentioned that because hold on let me let me find his background um he was a former four-star wide receiver played basketball in high school also football obviously he was named the 22 elite 11 all tournament wide receiver MVP and i have to imagine it's just just because they threw it up there to him.

And he just went, boop. Yep. Basically every single series, every single game. So it is just very funny that you brought that up because he actually won the MVP of that elite 11 tournament, probably because of that. It's pretty simple what he's good at. He's tall.

He's long-limbed. He can beat single coverage with his size and speed. He's dynamic in the red zone. I mean, he's caught 16 touchdowns in 24 games over the last two years. and 12 of them were in 24. He was hurt this year. We had a couple of USC games and there was a couple of times

where he was banged up. What was his injury this year? I forget. Let me look that up. No, I can look at it up. You got that? Okay. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Like, you see the tracking and the hang time. The thing is, even putting him at eight,

the things that I wrote down as weaknesses to me are things that really bother me a lot when evaluating wide receivers. Where I don't know if he's going to stay here ready. I feel like he's someone that might age the more I watch everyone else, like not as gracefully. Here's the three things I wrote down. Release packages are just backyard football.

They're not refined. They'll labor, right? It's like he's still trying to get off the line by doing this move. And the routes are not detailed. And he doesn't consistently separate. He can beat single cover. by just playing in the phone booth. But that doesn't mean he toasted single coverage, right?

And then he's not very creative after the catch. It's just build up speed or try to run through people. And you see it right there. I mean, yards after catch per reception, 10th percentile. The separation percentage for single coverage, 13th percentile. But this guy has, and I see. see some of this in the chat, and I think some of it's joking and some of it's not. He's our got our Keon Coleman YouTube problem.

Remember that, like, a famous episode we did, but like funny but also serious combo you and I had years ago where we said watch Keon Coleman's best five plays on YouTube and you think he's as good as anyone in this NFL draft. Yep. But watch Keon Coleman for 10 straight games. Yep. And you're like, uh, I don't think this will work in the NFL unless a lot changes. And that's exactly where I stand with Jacoby Lane right now.

Yeah. I'm with you. This I thought that, because we were doing top 12s, one, I didn't love Jacoby Lane over summer when we watched him because of exactly what you mentioned. This is normally not a wide receiver that I like to gravitate towards anymore. It's funny because at the beginning of the show, I talked about JJ Ertega Whiteside. And back in that 2018, 2019 draft class cycle, I liked JJ Arthega. white side i liked uh kelvin harmon you remember him from nc state yes i liked him a lot you know and

like like akim butler was up there as well and so like these are players that ended up just being guys who could not separate and it's just so so so hard to win is just a contest to catch receiver in the nfl there's just very few that do it and when i watch lane unfortunately I see a lot of the similar things that you talked about where he's not really creative in his routes. He's not really creative in how he sets up the fenders. He's not really creative after the catch. But Connor, what really does it for me

are those two numbers that you see there on the screen. The contested catch percentage is only 66th percentile. Dude, I need you to be in the 90th percentile if that's all you're going to be. You have to dominate that way. The drop rate, 8.6%. That's 34th percentile. That drop rate's got to be at minimum 80th percentile. So if you tell me I have a player that, and you combine that with just a 13th percent separation percentile against single coverage, if you tell me that this is a player who almost always, when you are targeting him, he is going to be dealing with some sort of contact and those numbers aren't elite.

I unfortunately, this is, this is the way that I would say that is this is a wide receiver that I would let somebody else draft. I get it is that that's that's kind of how I am viewing Jacoby Lane right now yeah I would have I would have liked to see him go back to school to be honest I was I don't understand why he declared especially with my Ava going back right right like that would have been no McCai lemon we it's all you man we think right lemon yeah lemon's probably in this draft probably I have I have heard people expect lemon to be in the draft so barring some crazy and I I'll change. I didn't see him officially declare, which also makes it a little weird that Lane declared first.

Right. Don't love it. But yeah, I think we share the same exact concerns. These players, typically the longer the process goes on with me, you know, don't age as well because I start to fall into. Players like this, the more you, the first, if you watch a good game first, you're like, There's no way anyone's better than this in the draft. And then you watch three games and you're like, oh, it's not just mossing people and being the most dynamic jump ball athlete on the field.

Yeah. Yeah. It's just that separation is the trait that I always gravitate towards the most when it comes to this position. And so in order, if there's guys that don't separate super well, you've got to be really good and really nuanced in a lot. of the other areas. Okay, before we move on to our next wide receiver, our game plan of the week presented by Western Southern Financial Group, a game plan for your financial future. Our game plan of the week this week, the Buffalo Bills are taking on Shador Sanders. Shadur

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You're not reading it again. No more FaceTime. This is my bribe for you to talk about my guy. Jacoby. Maybe it didn't go the way you did. I had a mate. You had a mate. Yep.

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Thank you for the super chat. Can't wait to see who you guys have as the fraud-jerk estimate of the draft oh that's ice cold well that'll be the that'll be the running back episode right yes yeah that'll be the uh Alex 10 dollar super chat guys help big tucks has kidnapped me as giving me just the crust that's my only food source uh love the show and happy that have finally made a live show what's up Alex appreciate you join in keep up the awesome work you dingleheads tingle heads that's good come on there's kids that watch this show austen great thank you for the five dollar super chef

If Carnell Tate isn't number one, we boycott, stay tuned. You don't have to stick around. Irish Eagle, $5 super chat, long time, long time of the show. I like that. Hopefully that. Love you, long time of the show. Can't wait to see how you guys feel about Broussela from Tennessee. Also, who do you think the Titans should take?

Like, why did you see for why? Who should the Titans take? Whoever we have number one. That's actually very true. Yeah. No, Slin. Thank you for the super chat. If Raiders draft Mendoza, Saratoga in round two,

I'm thinking that's supposed to be Sarat. No, who's the wide receiver? Saratoga? Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. There's a round two wide receiver. No, I don't think he's draft eligible. Okay, thank you. I think he's a sophomore.

I. If I'm remembering this correctly. I'm thinking he's trying to pair up Mendoza with Elijah Surat. Is that what we're doing here? it would make sense I swear I've is there not a maybe I'm thinking about

somebody else completely chat's got us all rattled Frost $2 super chat Oh is he talking about Isaiah Sategna That's what I On Oklahoma? Yes

Is that what Maybe this is this is That's the one that I was thinking of This super chat is like trying to find the Zodiac killer Yeah good luck Frost $2 super chat Michael Fordham, or Wortham, sorry, Michael Wortham.

Why receiver kick returner from Montana? You're welcome. All right. Get them on the list. Get them on the list. All right. Let's keep it rolling with, I lost our space.

There we go. Spencer. Thank you for the $20 super chat, pal. Wanted to send a special thank you for all the content that you all do. You have helped out my scouting immensely. First year NFL agents usually don't get many draftable guys. I'm fortunate to say that I have four. Thank you, Phyllis.

Let's go, Spencer. Love to hear it. Congrats on the draft. class and good luck with your first year as an NFL agent. Okay, so we have solved the case of the Zodiac Killer because Nolson with another $2 super chat, if the Raiders draft Mendoza, Surratt in round two. That's what I was trying to say. You were on to something.

You were on to something. I don't hate it. I don't hate it. But that it was wild because it was pretty close to the Oklahoma receiver's name. That's why I, that's why I was all bamboozled. Man, what a job by Noslin. the dark strike thank you for the super chat subchumps can we get three deep wide receiver picks from you both for in the later round so you think can put your names to as we follow them in the league

keep up the good work gents love the show we'll do plenty of that when we get to the final wide receiver rankings you're in the right place that will yeah that will obviously lean into what you're talking about there um luke 10 dollar super chat hey short stacks now that's a good one. Conor, have you tried the new apple-flavored uncrustable? Had one watching Monongai highlights. Are you me? Luke?

I haven't had Apple. I think also it was honey that Roman sent me with all the protein. Ah, okay. Makes sense. I don't know which one that's the test booster. But damn it, you'll find out. But man, you'll get to the bottom of it. When you see my jawline just become wild,

you'll know I'm on the test booster uncrustable. When Connor just morphs into the Sigma Man meme. Kristen has triplets in the future. You have any kids? Well, all of a sudden, I have triplets. How?

Test booster on crustables. That would be insane. Oh, all right. Brady, thank you for the $5 super chat. Shout out Malik Benson and Jadon Canadi. I thought they would be solid contributors, but they've been balling and stepped up in big moments.

Go ducks. Go ducks. I'm excited to watch the college football playoff. Playoff is going to be incredible. Yeah, it's going to be dope. Okay, last one, Spencer, $5 super chat on the topic of wide receivers. Am I a mental patient for thinking that manders should go commanders? Okay, all right, all right, all right, all right.

Commanders should go receive a round one just to try to score 80 points a game with a healthy J.D.5. It might be quicker than trying to fix the defense. It might be on to something. Oh, a bit, one more, $5 super chat. Better see Denzel, Denzel, Denzel, Washington, Ward, Boston, Boston in your top three. We got there. We got there eventually.

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we're here. Omar Cooper Jr. the wide receiver from Indiana. So I'll intro him once I can get to his full scanning report here. Redshirt Jr. from Indiana listed at six feet tall, 205 pounds. He has been in Indiana the whole time. All four years that he has been in at Indiana. Redshirt is first year, started two games next year, four games the next year, and he has been a consistent starter for them this entire season. His dad started both football and basketball, I believe it, Indiana, had interested both for student. Oh, no, we went to junior college at Louisiana. And then he went to Louisiana Tech where he played basketball.

So I played football and basketball in high school. And then he played Louisiana Tech for basketball. His mother was a full-time starter at Michigan State for three seasons. Got a basketball background. Overall athlete, obviously he played basketball in high school, as you would expect. He also was a long jumper on track. field. I think this dude's awesome. I really didn't know anything about him going into this season. You see that receiving grade versus man, 77.6. Receiving grade versus zone 86.2. The separation

percentile versus zone and single coverage is really high. 88th percentile and 76th percentile. The contested catch numbers and regular drop rate numbers are pretty much what you would want from them there. The yards per route run 80th over the last two years and then the yards after catched up is really great from him as an all-around athlete, too. 7.3, that's 89th, or sorry, that's 85th percentile for him. I think he's pretty decently nuanced in his routes. I think he, I have him categorized as a Z wide receiver because I think he is an outside guy, but I really think that he can win at all three receiver spots.

I think naturally you'll probably want somebody who's a little bit bigger to play as your full-time X on the outside, but if you ever needed Omar Cooper to play on the outside for you, you could. I think he's just got that natural athleticism from the multi-sport background. really great hand-eye coordination for run-of-the-mill catches as well as spectacular catches. He's got punt and kick return experience, which I think will absolutely boost his NFL resume a little bit here. He's got the technique to beat press as well as the athleticism. He's got some frustrating drops that he had this year, but overall, you see the numbers

are pretty fine when contested and not. Didn't face press coverage a ton. I mentioned that I think he's got the ability to do it, but just the overall snaps that he had to go up against press coverage is sort of that off the line of scrimmage outside receiver just didn't have to do it a ton because serrat was the guy that they would put on the line of scrimmage a ton uh the i think the after the catch stuff from him is a little bit more of just straight line athleticism and schemed up plays rather than it is like make you miss like got a ton of wiggle to him but overall i just think that this is a really good NFL athlete a guy who could play all three receiver positions he has special teams experience

I don't know if he's got the highest ceiling in the world, but I absolutely could see him being a wide receiver three at the NFL level, perhaps a wide receiver too. But I do like this player a good amount. Man, is he good? And like you said, felt like he came out of nowhere. It's interesting because in 2024,

he only had 28 catches, but he averaged over 21 yards per catch. So he was making big plays last year. But you look at this year, he just exploded in terms of being a consistent part of the offense and what I love about him most Trevor and that was a really good you know recap of him I just think his pound for pound strength and body control is excellent yeah it's you look at him six foot 204 pounds it's like okay average size I mean he forced 24 miss tackles this

during the regular season in our database but you watch them it's like you said he's not jukeing or making guys miss all the time he's able to bully through arm tackles stay on on his feet keep his balance run through contact i mean the acrobatic catches he's a really really good player and a complete player in terms of everything they ask him to do and um someone that is going to you're going to hear a lot more hype about him i think over the next couple months right now assuming he declares because he doesn't have to we're waiting on that as well and i hope he's fully healthy for the college football playoff yeah what it was it was an ankle what do you having that big 10 championship game not sure if they officially announced because he barely got

to play what he played like three oh he left he left like immediately yeah sucks so would be nice to see him in the playoff yeah yeah somebody somebody was mentioning um that they liked omar cooper junior a lot and then they watched more of his film when he feels like play to play he's a little bit slow i feel myself thinking that a little bit but there are other plays where I see that athleticism in him, you know? And so it's, it's not a lack of an ability to do it. And so I have to lean on the ceiling of the other plays that I've seen from him and just that you can get that a little bit more often, especially when the play speed speeds up

at the NFL level. I think he's a good enough athlete to be a, like I said, a wide receiver three in the NFL, perhaps a wide receiver two. Yep. Obviously, we seem exactly the same first receiver that we've had in the same exact ranking. I had Elijah Serat at number. number six. Okay, and I had Jeremy Bernard.

Oh, that's funny. That is funny. Okay, so getting into the top fives then, number five. Yep, because we went through both of those guys. Five for me. And I think we're going to have the same five players here. It is apparently five for you. There is.

There it is. Wow. Okay. So I had Casey Concepcion. I wanted to save my summer rankings just to kind of show the jump. I think I had him wide receiver 11. So needless. I did not love him coming into the season.

Needless to say. I thought a lot of his stuff at NC State was very gimmicky. It was funky. Yes. I thought it was very gimmicky. I mean, at NC State, this was a guy that literally played receiver and running back. Yep. So, and I think he threw a couple passes.

Yeah, he completed a pass in both 2023 and 2024. It's such a funny note. I mean, he legitimately had 19 carries last year, Francie State. In the year before that, he had 41. So this is somebody that wasn't necessarily a full-time receiver until now. Victor said Mike Evans had 5-11. It'll never stop.

It's the new Alfred Collins. Please keep this bit going. This is awesome. I don't even know the origin of this. yep this is mike evans same school and everything oh that's great amazing kasing well garret hold on garret's in the chat saying percy harvin 2.0 that is lofty i don't think he's that athletic percy could move percy was ridiculous i don't think he's quite that that that that good of a linear athlete but i agree but man he's an explosive play machine yes i'll say that right

now and it's not it's off of both short and long throws that's the thing it's not like he's somebody that gets a screen it's like i there's a 15 yard you know 15 yards on the ground he works the intermediate and deep parts of the field um he had 26 explosive catches this year that's 15 plus yards you know what i really liked about him too is that we got to see it and see it from him against south carolina he'd be is it cisset c the corner oh yeah yeah Brandon Cesey. Brandon Cicay, he smoked him on a play. Yep.

And there are people that think Cicay is a first round corner in this draft. I'm not there, but C Csay is a good NFL prospect is the point. And Concepcion dusted him on a vertical play. And I don't even think, here's the craziest part, Trevor, for how dynamic of a college quarterback Marcel Reed is, he's not this great passer yet right now. Oh, no, he's, I think he's much more inaccurate. consistent than a lot of people were talking about with him

in the middle of this year. Like, great college quarterback, but I don't know. The He's in the Heisman race. I don't know if I've watched a Marcel Regame and been like, yes, NFL quarterback, 100%. Which just makes it more impressive what Concepcion did in this offense this year. So he is, he's a big time playmaker

that can get over the top and be dangerous with the ball in his hands on the short throws. Yeah, I think that this, the dynamic ability that he has is awesome. And initially I had him listed as a slot receiver, but watching more of him, the more Texas A&M used him as a traditional receiver instead of just this like gimmicky, gadgety guy that it felt like NC State did at times. And I'm not trying to like slight NC State. NC State didn't really have a lot of other playmakers. And so they just wanted to get the ball in Concepcion's hand in any way possible.

Texas A&M didn't really have that problem. So they were allowed to... Big Christmas slander. put uh that's true that's true sorry no it was before big christmas became big christmas you know he was he was he was just a a young tree that was still sprouting um the holidays weren't even here yet with conception though the more i was just very impressed by the more that they used him as a traditional receiver i felt like he got better as a traditional receiver i agree me feel as though he can actually be that z outside receiver as much as he can be a slot receiver at the NFL level what i

love the most about him is his short area quickness and agility to make guys miss. You see that yards after catch number, that 2.6 number. Now, the average of the target was a little bit higher this year than it was the previous year. His numbers are a little bit skewed. When you look at a 2024 and 2025 sample size, I honestly should have just used the 2025 one for Concepcion because I think his usage was just way different. But he is somebody who when you get the ball in his hands, it's not just like, okay, he's a fast guy who's going to go north to south. He can make you miss. got a ton of mistackles force per reception numbers to him. And I think that that is something that's going to translate to the next level. Now, a worry that I have from him is, one, you're not

really getting much out of him as a blocker. So if you're going to have him as an outside wide receiver, he has to be better as a blocker. And I just don't know if that's in the cards for him. And two, 19 drops over the last three years. You see that drop rate of 10.4%. That's 14th percentile. Now, the contested catch numbers are pretty good, 78th percentile, 52.6%. But just the drops. Now, we categorize drops as an unstable metric, meaning that just because they're a way that they were one year doesn't mean it will always be like that. You can jump to the NFL and not have as big of a drop problem.

But when you get to two-year sample size and three-year sample size stuff, you do get a little bit concerned about it. So a really dynamic athlete, somebody in the chat was talking about, you know, like a Debo Samuel type of player, you know, could be a 49er. I love that landing spot for him, that potential landing spot with Kyle Shanahan and the 49ers. But he's built differently than Debo. I don't think that's his comp. But somebody who is a really fun dynamic athlete who's having a good year. Yeah. I mean, obviously another guy we see eye to eye on think he's going to be a really good NFL player. It's very, okay. So Peter in the chat says, does he remind you of Luther Burden?

Luther Burden is my comfort in the draft guide. Now, I think that Luther Burden was a little bit further along as a receiver. And I also think that Luther Burden was even a little bit better, as crazy as that is, a stop and start type of a dude. And he was able to translate into that route running a little bit more. But I think he is a very similar player. I like the way you see the game, Peter. All right, number four.

Number four, I have Denzel Boston. so do I okay all right you want to talk about Denzel Boston since I opened it up about Casey yes I couldn't remember how all right so Denzel Boston 6 4-210 it's funny to start with this but I just have to I think he's the best run blocking wide receiver in the draft and when I say that that I did for this exercise maybe there's a day three guy that that's like the meat potatoes of his game but in terms of the star receivers in this draft he's the best run blocker out of the star receivers he you do love that about an x on the line of scrimmage big body dude is that you don't have to worry about that at all that's the thing with denzil boston he is going to be a little stiff sometimes for some

people um he's not going to be this twitched up short area quick kind of guy but this is a skill set that is going to be highly desirable because of his size and that he plays to every bit of this size. And he's just a big-bodied outside target. He's got a muscled-up body. He is a road grader on the outside blocking. He tracks and catches the ball at its high point. And I love the way Washington used them

where they weren't like, okay, just be the X receiver all day. They'll hide them in the backfield. Sometimes, and he could run routes out of the backfield or in condensed formations. Yeah. They trusted this guy in every single role, really reliable, another guy, big, reliable hands, right? We're talking about that with Malachi Fields a little bit. Boston is the, like, he's the Bentley version of Malachi Fields, honestly. He's that premium deluxe version.

He can, you see the 93rd percentile contest the catch rate. That's going to be what people love about him the most. He's a mismatch threat in the red zone. I believe over the last two seasons, he's caught 20 touchdowns. And the split was pretty even. It was like nine and then 11. It's not that he's Drake London because that's like the too easy,

low-hanging fruit kind of comp. But the way Washington's offense used him and the things he's really good at had that Drake London-esque feel. The chat's saying that he reminds. them a lot of Mike Evans. You know what? I hadn't thought of that. Okay, here's one.

Peter said, Peter's on fire today. And I'm not saying that because he sponsors the pod. Yeah. He said he's the next Michael Pittman. Yeah, no, I think that Michael Pittman is absolutely in the wheelhouse here because. That's the right path. So what I like,

but I even think, I think Boston's got a little bit more wiggle to him. He does. He's, yeah, then Pittman. You know the comp I have for Boston? You want to hear it? I do. Miles Austin.

Wow. Miles Austin's the comp that I have for Denzel Boston because Austin was about the same size. He was a big bodied wide receiver. But he gave you a little bit extra wiggle, agility. There was a little bit more smoothness to what he was able to do. And that's why he was able to consistently get open during the prime years of when we remember Miles Austin being one of the better wide receivers in the NFL and when I watched Denzel Boston

I feel as though he's that sort of a player where you have the size, you have the contested catchability, you have some nice footwork off the line of scrimmaging his releases against press, he can block but then he also just he gives you a little bit something extra as a route runner. I mean for him to be

the size that he is but still have an above 50th percent separation percentile like I'm good with that. I'm pretty good with that with him against man coverage. So that's sort of how I feel. Now, obviously, Miles Austin became an incredibly productive player at the NFL level. I don't know if the career is going to go exactly or the peaks are going to be exactly what Miles Austin was.

But I see him as this bonus athlete plus athlete type of big man the way that Miles Austin was when he was doing great things for the Cowboys. All right. Top three. Wait, before we get to the top three, I hope we have the PFF player prop tool video on hand. because if we don't, then it's going to be three seconds of silence and then we're going to get into our three wide receivers. But hopefully I'm introducing this

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takes but now you've got truth bet with data win with pfm all right time for the top three wide receivers and somebody correctly pointed out in the chat I can't believe both of you have Caden Proctor in the top three of your wide receiver ranking so Connor's Caden Proctor number three here for you Caden Proctor just missed my top 12 wide receivers yeah same same he also he also he also just missed it close he's on the outside looking in all right i i think this is the i think this is the drum roll here for who is number three because depending on who you have number three i think you can kind of guess who the other two might be in probably the correct order but mckeye lemon is number three for me the kai lemon is also number three for me yes yes

Mackay Lemon, man. What a ball player. Truly. He's, his faults are not of his own. No. That he's listed 511, 195, let's say. They're God's faults, actually.

They absolutely are. When everybody after every game, like, thanks God, Mackay Lemon should be like, he should do that. He should. I would applaud if he was like, you know what? that was me out there today you know what I got to give all the glory to me

I mean this man's made the most of that 510 190 pound frame it's good that I didn't finish the joke he's like you know he's like you know what's the hardest laughed in a long time. That makes me happy. Whenever I get one of those howls at you, dude, that's really makes my day. Oh, man.

Okay. Yeah, so let's get to the player. I won't go forward. But, Mikey Lemon, who plays bigger than 511-195. He is probably a slot receiver at the next level, honestly,

but a high-end, high-end slot receiver. He's physical in his wrap. his positioning is an A-plus to get the ball. He constantly knows how to alter tempo. His IQ against zone coverage is an A-plus. Yeah. He sees what the defense is trying to do.

He knows how to attack the soft spot. When he's going from pass catcher to runner, like there's not much of a transition. It's not clunky. It's catch the ball, go into demon mode. And this is somebody that, people can't guard one-on-one. That's the problem with Mackay Lemon

is that you have to allocate so much defensive attention to him. I remember when we had USC Notre Dame this year, watching, because obviously we do all the lead-up and the Notre Dame, both staffs talk to our staff and people on the show. And basically all the Notre Dame staff would talk about it felt like was we are not letting Mackay Lemon destroy our lives today. Well, they put,

They put Leonard Moore on him. Yes. To shadow him. Leonard Moore is going into top 10 next year in 2027. Exactly. They put Leonard Moore on every single Mikhail Lemon rep, I believe. If not, then 80, 85% of the game, he was on Mikai Lemon for that game. Yeah.

This dude, he's got great hands. He knows how to get. It's so simple, but the honest truth is, Trevor, he knows how to get open constantly. He catches the ball cleanly, and he's good after the catch. It's the most simplified way to evaluate a wide receiver, but this guy is so good at those things that yes, he's not the biggest guy

but he's not small to the point where it's going to take him out of the first round. I promise you that. This is still a top 20 pick. It shouldn't. No, it absolutely shouldn't. And I think that those numbers that you see on the screen are a good indicator of why. I mean, even with him not being the most athletic

and the biggest guy in the world, to have an 84.7 receiving grade against man coverage and to have the contested catch percentage of a 50 of a 93rd percentile, 57.1. I mean, this guy does everything that you could possibly want for a smaller. They're throwing fades in the end zone. Yes, in the end, they're throwing him red zone fades and he is coming down with it. He just, somebody in the chat said he's like pocket size Pooka Nakua, to be honest with you. That's wow.

That's pretty good. I do like that because he will give you everything that he's got at the catch point you see the drop rate percentage 2.2% that's 99th percentile you see the separation scores

87th percentile overall separation score 66th percentile against single coverages and you know what I love so much about Mackay Lemon he blocks his butt off physical football player I told you on the last mock draft episode that we did it would not shock

me whatsoever if the New York Jets had McKay Lemon as their wide receiver one in this class. Now, I think it's probably going to be Carnell Tate. But, like, that goes just into the feciness, the competitiveness that he plays with at all times. He's going to be in that conversation. If he's not a first rounder, that is nuts. That is, I will say that here on the show. That is crazy if he is not a first rounder. He's not going to be the fastest dude.

He's going to go to the combine. I don't know what he's going to run at the combine. I don't care. Who cares? I watch the tape. Is he elated getting off press coverage? No, he is smaller. He doesn't have that vertical speed to him.

But he gives you everything he's got every single play. And very clearly, it's extremely productive and has been over the last two years. You know what helps him? Yeah, go ahead. How great Jackson Smith and Jigba has been this year. And they're not the same player. That's not my point. Well, you know, Amon-Ross, St. Brown's the other one.

Right. And Amon Ra is wired, kind of the same tough guy, undersized way. Right, right. I don't know if I fully see that as a cop because, like, Amman Ra is just insanely productive, right? So it's hard to say that. But again, like you said, how they are wired, how they are built. I mean, Amaran Ra didn't have the best combine ever. But, I mean, Amar Ra was a fourth round pick.

And I think that the league kind of realized how they messed up. was like, all right, well, I guess receivers can be built a little bit of a different way. I just, the pocket-sized Pooka-Comp, the wired like I'm on Ross St. Brown, like, I don't know if he's going to be as productive as those guys are, but this dude's an NFL player, man. He just declared, isn't that weird? Wow, thank goodness. Like, literally I see a post, you know, when the players now, like the professional graphic and the message, in the last minute, this just dropped from him.

Thank goodness. if Kyle Lemon's in the draft. If it came out and he was like, no, he's going back. I just, you know, we'd end the show there. We wouldn't even see who, why cheaper one and two are. Alex said his yak's a little bit underwhelming. I wouldn't call it underwhelming. Like, he's not super dynamic after the catch,

but he's still a guy who ball hits his hands. He's up and gone. And within two steps, this guy's basically getting to top speed. So he's not super creative after the catch, but he's somebody who he's going to consistently get you yards after the catch. as you could see by the 77th percentile there for him. Who do you have at wide receiver two? One of my favorite players in the draft and one of my favorites from the summer,

Carnell Tate. So one and two did not actually, this is what I don't know the last time this happened. One and two did not change for me from the summer. Carnell Tate was two. You did Tate it too? Nice. Maybe.

I'm pretty sure. He was higher for you than he was for me because I had, I had some questions about the overall play speed from him, but he's answered a lot of those this year. Oh, and he's number two for you as well. He is number two for me. I had a weird feeling. I was like, I think Treb might move Tate to one, but I don't know.

No, I, it's, so you want to know what's funny? I'd love to know it's funny. I do, you know, numerical grades for different categories that I have for players watching them on film. Jordan Tyson, who we're going to talk about in a second, and Carnell Tate have the exact same numerical grade. So it was really sort of a coin flip, but I'll talk about why I have Jordan Tyson at number one.

Carnal Tate, man, he is just so detailed for a physically gifted guy as well. 6.3-195, he's got the long limbs, big strides, chews up a lot of turf. This is a former four-star from Chicago. that ended up, because he played at IMG Academy, that ended up in Ohio State. And the size and length is such a big part of his game. But he's got more juice than people realized.

More than I thought going into this year. That's the thing with Carnell Tate. He has now mastered because he gets off the snap into his routes with vertical juice, that corners go, damn, this guy's faster than I thought. but I'm now in recovery mode. He's got long strides that eat up more turf. Then the rest of the game, they're like, well, let me sit eight yards off of Carnal takes.

I don't want to get beat over the top. Well, now with his footwork and his refinement, he's chewing you up on these intermediate throws. So this is somebody that, because of his size, because of his vertical speed, his catch radius, his ability in contested situations, and is now newly discovered refinement as a separator. This is the number one wide receiver, folks.

This is what it looks like right here. This dude, you can funnel your offense through him. So I thought Cornell Tate was really good over the summer. I thought he was a couple notches above that this year. His development has been a joy to watch. And he's going to be a problem at the NFL level. Contested catch percentile 100th percent. That's insanity.

He has 0.0 drops this season. And over the last two years, has a 97th percentile drop rate. Simply put, if this ball gets anywhere within his catch radius, he is coming down with it. He's got such strong hands, elite concentration. You know what really sold me on him this year is he became a better vertical separator than I thought he was the year prior. Now, you know, the year prior, you got a Mechabuka, you have Jeremiah Smith. they weren't really asking him to run a ton of that. And this year they gave him the opportunity to run more.

And now not only does he have that, you know, sharp cuts that he can, that he can execute on those vertical routes, but also now he, I'm watching him create that separation as an athlete deep down the field. And so that's how you get, look at those separation percentile scores. You see that? 98th percentile overall, 95th percentile against single coverage. The reason why is because he hits you with just those quick, like just those quick just those quick jabs as a route runner and then this year he's really been opening it up a lot more you

know what else he does blocks his butt off man this dude pound for pound is such a strong blocker he reminds me his game reminds me a lot of devante smith and smith is obviously more lean and a little bit smaller but smith is incredibly controlled in and out of his brakes, creates that separation, super strong hands, great route runner, and Smith will block it for you.

Now, again, Tate, I think is better at it because he's got more weight. He's got like 20, 25 more pounds on him, but both have that like lean and long frame to them. I think their games are very similar, even though Tate is built bigger because Devante Smith was outlier size.

But I think these two guys win very similarly. We've seen how much success Devante Smith could have at the NFL level. That's the way that I view. Harnell Tate, who it's just really hard to find something that he is not good at. Yards after catch stuff, okay, if we're doing everything else at such an incredible level. He'll run through you, though. I'll give him that.

He knows like, all right, I'm not saying flowers out here and I'm going to make three people miss. Let me put my shoulder down and get upfield. And I like the self-awareness to just, all right, I'm bigger than the corner. Let's gain four yards instead of trying to gain nine and lose two. Yeah. Yeah. So I think he's awesome, man. I think Tate's fantastic. Only to be one up by the guy who we both have at number one here on this list. And that is Jordan Tyson, the wide receiver from Arizona State. When you look at Tyson, six foot two, 200 pounds, Z type of receiver. But to be honest with you, somebody who could play all three wide receiver spots. Explosiveness is the Trump card that I think that Jordan Tyson has. When he is fully healthy, which we'll get to that in a second. the way that he can explode out of his stance into his, you know, like a split stance release where it's just kind of visualized like this guys, you know, you have one foot in front of the other, and then when the ball is snapped, you kind of, it's a little bit of a jump,

like it's a little bit of a hop, and then boom, your feet are even next to each other. And then at that point, if you are explosive and fluid in how you move, that corner can be screwed because then you can beat them either way. When you can master a split step release the way that Jordan Tyson can, it is so almost impossible to be able to keep contain on press coverage from him. He's so savvy at that little,

just that little push off at the end to get that separation window for the catch. He's so savvy at it. The route running, the route breaks, again, the control, the one cut ability, that explosiveness, So explosive. You see that 82nd percentile separation score against all routes

and then 80th percentile against single coverage looks. 92.4 grade against man coverage over the last two years. This is the type of player that you look at it on the line of scrimmage and you say, I need a catch, I'm throwing it up to it. And the reason why I have Tyson above Tate, because I think both of them do things really well, but I think Tate's a better blocker, right? I think that he is better in the blocking game than Tyson is.

But it is that true, rare, spectacular catch, big moment type of receiver that I think Jordan Tyson is above any other wide receiver in this class. He's such a great intermediate route runner. He's so damn explosive off the line of scrimmage. And he can go up and get it vertically when you are 20 or more yards down the field. there is not much that I think that this guy doesn't do at an NFL level as a future wide receiver one

the biggest issue is just availability he tore his ACL MCL and PCL right when he was at Colorado that first year that he was at Colorado he missed most of the 2020s season because of that and then over the last two years he's dealt with a hamstring and a collarbone injury so he's been hurt all four years that he has played college ball

and I think because of that it's a good chance he's not going to be the first wide receiver taken depending on what the medicals are but until we get to the combine and until i am told yeah it doesn't look great he's not really durable of an athlete i'm going to take this guy's tape over anybody if i need a wide receiver one in this class i'm with you as well there is a obvious big elephant in the room or caveat and a realistic world where carnell tates drafted over him and that would largely be i mean they're both damn good football players and like you said having even grades on them that's not egregious at all but there's the factor is that he has a long injury history and he's got to go through the medical process as all these players do and you know kind of prove that the soft tissue injuries aren't going to be lingering there's no hiccups with previous major surgeries but in terms of what we see on tape and the compete level i mean man it's it's crazy that this guy that dion let this guy get away from colorado it's one of the i mean this guy has

elevated the Arizona State program in ways that, and I know I sound like a hater because I do this every time we talk about Jordan Tyson. I think he's held back by the quarterback very often. And I think that his skill set would actually have him, and he's been very productive, but there's times where this dude is open so fast that with a higher level NFL arm, it's going to be pitch and catch for days. so elite separator in my opinion I love his ability with and without the ball in terms of that acceleration

and this guy as long as he could stay healthy this is yet another number one wide receiver kind of player I saw some people in the chat thrown around names like I saw a CD Lamb mentioned and you're on the right pathway the CD yeah what do you got my early comp is I think he's got more juice as Golden Tate

I think he's I think he moves very similarly to Golden Tate, but I think he's more explosive than Gold. I think he is too. And anybody who's like, oh, Golden Tate, like, guys, Golden Tate had three 1,000 yard seasons. He had, I think, three other 800-yard seasons in his NFL career. Golden Tate won the Bolinikoff when he was coming out of Notre Dame. Like, Golden Tate's a legit, almost always open type of a wide receiver. And so I think he's got more juice, but he plays kind of similarly to the way that Golden Tate did. Before we wrap things up, I just remembered, because a lot of people,

were throwing out comps for Mackay Lemon, right? Like it was the, I'm on Ross St. Brown. Like, that was one comp that we had there, the pocket pookin'akua. Julian Edelman is the comp that I wrote down for Mackay Lemon, actually. Just as somebody who blocks his butt off. I get it. Always open. Always finding this soft spot in the zone.

Not super physically gifted, but he's just going to be a quarterback's best friend for you. And where was Julian Edelman drafted? What round was he drafted in? Seventh round. So, like, he was a seventh round pick, but obviously, like, Julian. He played quarterback, too, didn't he? He did, he did. Yeah, I always forget that.

Julian Edelman is, like, one of the most consistent, noteworthy receivers over the last, you know, two decades. So that's sort of, that's, that's the comp that I had written down for, for Mikhail Lemon. So anything else, Connor? No. There we go. This went pretty close to how I thought. I'm curious how it shapes up when we do top 30 to end out the wide receivers. Yeah, yeah.

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I couldn't remember if on our schedule we were doing running backs on Monday or if we were doing something else on Monday for the holidays. We'll have a show Monday. We're not going to be live on Wednesday at 4.30 because that's Christmas Eve. No, no. What we're doing, though, we have a treat for you guys on Christmas. There is an episode that is coming out on Christmas Day that I'm not going to, I'm not going to spoil it, but we will have another episode for you on Christmas Day,

but I don't quite want to spoil that one. Yeah, so two episodes next week, but Monday's live is our normal one. And then New Year's, we'll update you on Monday what we do for New Year's. Yes, yes. Also, before we wrap up, somebody asked about Zachariah Branch. I didn't watch him because he's a true junior. Same. He would be in the next.

And Ian Strong is another one from Rutgers, who I didn't rank or watch because they're true juniors and we have a lot of seniors that we had to get to so yeah like we said and i understand people frustrated when their favorite player isn't mentioned i got through about 17 or 18 guys guys that weren't in the show were really just like senior bowl invites that i i have to watch in the next six weeks yep so we trevor and i every year this is our midpoint summer scouting early rankings final rankings your favorite players will be in the final rankings where we do at least 30 wide receivers. Yes. Appreciate everybody watching the show for the chef, Tyler Cook, producing everything behind the hypothetical glass for Connor Rogers.

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