NFL Stock Exchange: An NFL Draft Podcast - Fix Your Franchise: Atlanta Falcons (w/ 3-Round Mock Draft)

Episode Date: December 4, 2025

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Starting point is 00:00:00 Welcome to the opening bell of the NFL Stock Exchange podcast. Trevor Sikkiman, Connor Rogers, here with you guys for another, Fix Your Franchise episode of the program. Today, we are fixing the Atlanta Falcons. We're taking a deep dive into everything, the full organization. We're looking at the front office, the coaching staff, the assistant coaches, the whole roster, the quarterback situation. We'll give you a free agency strategy.
Starting point is 00:00:35 Do a couple of mock drafts at the end of the show. It's going to be a good time. Connor, how you doing, my friend? I'm great, brother. It's hockey jersey day here. It is. It is. We absolutely love that throwbacks.
Starting point is 00:00:46 Hell yeah, dude. Intro, I mean, Mr. Cook, this guy, like, you put him up for every award possible. Teddy Long, I never saw the limo clip. No, I've never seen that either. I've never seen that either. You and I have talked many times on this show. It's perfect. You and I kind of watched wrestling during the exact era.
Starting point is 00:01:07 So there is a cutoff point for us. But, man, the fact that he had one trick in his bag and it was just pit his enemies against the Undertaker. But it's a great trick. It's like what everybody's like, ah, all this guy is is fast. It's like, yeah, well, he's running by everyone. Teddy Long had that one trick. But here we go, man. The Falcons, Pimp your franchise.
Starting point is 00:01:26 Got to be a good one for sure. people in the chat sort of asking about the hockey jerseys to be transparent with everybody Connor sat down and got into the stream yard room that we're using and he had the hockey jersey and I immediately was like oh it's hockey jersey day I've never seen you move faster you you you jet it out of the sea and just like that you're ready to go people asking is this a vincent lacavillae jersey you can't write it's Vincent la cabier jersey i don't know if i don't know if my chair I'll be able to show hell yeah look that is a CCM beauty yeah yeah what's yours Brian Leach mm I got a hood on but it's got the little Stanley Cup patch oh yeah
Starting point is 00:02:08 yeah hockey jersey I don't know how you feel about this I think hockey jerseys are far and away the best aesthetic for a fan to wear I would well first of all I know you would say that because you live in a cold weather climate and I'd counter that yeah jersey over a hoodie Like, you know, the fashion forward young man that you are, it's an elite aesthetic for any sports fan. Yep, I would agree with that. It's a northeast, yes.
Starting point is 00:02:34 I think the counter is where you're probably going as a Florida man, and I agree with this. Throwing on an NBA jersey on the beach is just, sure, sure, seamless. Sure, sure, sure. But yes. It comes complete with a high noon or white claw or Vizzi or whatever your self serve choices.
Starting point is 00:02:53 Spike all on the side. Yep. Yes. We've all done it. We're all about, no, we're not above it. Somebody in the chat saying the New York Islanders have won four in a row. We're not going to talk about that because one of those four was against the Tampa Bay Lightning. So we're not going to talk about it. They beat the Rangers this year. Really quick. Last night was when the Lightning played the Islanders and they lost two to one.
Starting point is 00:03:16 And I'm sitting on the couch of my wife. And I pull up the score to the game. I was just like, I'm not even, we're not even, we're not talking. We're just sitting next to each other. I pull up the score to the game and it says Islanders, two, lightning one. I don't even say anything to her. She goes, damn, that's pretty tough for you. Look over at her.
Starting point is 00:03:36 I'm like, excuse me? What's your deal? The hell did I do? Exit. She just starts, she just starts laughing. She's like, I'm just saying this pretty tough look for you. That is, that is elite trash talk. You're just sitting there.
Starting point is 00:03:51 My line is like, I'm just existing out here. and just getting hated on for absolutely no reason. I'm out here doing some late Googling. There's some sports scores. Next thing I know, I'm getting roasted sports scores. Just try to keep up with all the games. This Falcons, uh, fix your franchise is going to be made a good time because there are some fixture franchises that we do where we go, okay, well, we're not really touching
Starting point is 00:04:14 the front office. We're not going to talk about the coaching staff or maybe like they got a quarterback figured out or whatever. But the Falcons, I feel like a lot of this is wide open. And we get to have a lot of these conversations about potential changes. is not that I think that they're going to completely clean house on all these things. What I'm curious is to hear what you think about a lot of those big situations, but we at least get to talk about a lot of them here.
Starting point is 00:04:36 You want to run through some super chats before we dive into this? Yep, they're already piling up. Let's get to it. Okay. It ain't much, but it's honest work. It is honest work. Freddie, $5 super check. It has started off right here.
Starting point is 00:04:47 My Falcons need to pump up their penics. They can't seem to rise up. with this coaching staff, where's Peter with the, with the Bluetooth sponsorship when you need it? They just can't seem to finish. That is pause, pause, pause, Freddy. So there's a triple threat there for you, but we appreciate the $5, brother.
Starting point is 00:05:07 Are you suffering from rise-up dysfunction? Did Peter feed that line to you? No. I'm having a pre-production call every week now with Peter. With Peter, yeah. True back to the show. Oh, my God. All right, T-Law, thank you for the $10.
Starting point is 00:05:24 Super chat time has come. Rahim's got to go. He never deserved the head coaching job. He's a pathetic head coach. Also that JPJ trade looks great with him leading rookies and sacks. Where do you rank JPJ among this year's edge class harsh work for Rahim Morris? Where would I rank James Pierce, Jr, who is having a great year. And obviously we'll get into that because I think that that's part of Terry Fontow's
Starting point is 00:05:49 evaluation of what he did in the draft last year. But James Pierce Jr., in this year, in this year's edge. edge class. I mean, depending on what you think of Arvel Reese, if you think he's an edge rusher, I think Reese, I think Reese would have been better. I probably, I probably would have taken Ruben Bain over him as well. But then it gets short quick. James Pierce Jr.'s probably next. Right. Yeah, it feels that way. He's the first guy I've seen this year that made Armand Membu look human at times. Right. I was like, damn. I was like, we haven't seen Membo. And Membo's gone up against T.J. Watt and Miles Garrett. Yeah. He's been so good.
Starting point is 00:06:24 but Pierce Pierce is a very good rusher on an island very gifted rusher on an island so he's yeah he's definitely been and they need that trade to be a smash because of obviously what they gave up to get him. Yeah and like Keldrick Falks in this class
Starting point is 00:06:39 but I think you and I feels like are a little bit lower on Keldrick Fultch's overall not that he's not a good football player it's just is the pass rush there for him so that goes into that equation like when you think about him um T.J. Parker
Starting point is 00:06:53 hasn't quite had the year that we've wanted him to. Cassius Howl that's probably he's probably right there with Cassius Howl for like edge three or edge four in my opinion if he was I yeah I would have David Bailey I think go over him oh yeah David Bailey too Bailey's a menace although it's kind of funny like they're they're similar similar bucket of player right are I think that it's probably that's really the conversation now that we've talked it out a little bit it's probably still Rubenay Jr. and Arbel Reese that are in that first bucket but then James Pierce Jr. would be right there probably is a potential top 15 pick in that next bucket of David Bailey, Cassius Howell, and JPJ, in our opinion. But I appreciate the $10 super chat. Johnny, $10. Hey there,
Starting point is 00:07:36 Small Fry. Watch it. Need to put the Steelers on as a potential fix your franchise for the radar. We just don't get put there because we pretend that we are competitive each year. The Steelers were talked about as the topic for this episode, and I think we will be getting to the Steelers pretty soon. Yeah, conversations have been had. So just sit tight. Well, yeah, I think your wishes will be granted there. McFarland, thank you for the $5 super chat. I'm about to drop a stack on these super chats rise up. I like where you're thinking. Starting with $5. Love it. Dirty Bird, Nate, $2 super chat. Pimp my chies is back. Let's go. Please save my team. We're going to do the best job we possibly can here. I'll read this one for Preston. Preston $10 super chat said when Alyssa, who is my wife,
Starting point is 00:08:20 I came on screen during the Clemson, South Carolina game at the bar. I leaned over to my girlfriend. I said, quote, she's married to one of the guys from the podcasts I always have on. And she went, quote, oh yeah, NFLSC, nice. W wife, baby, W wife. Can we get some nonstop W Preston's wife in the chat, please? That's what we need here for a comment like that. Girlfriend.
Starting point is 00:08:43 Oh, girlfriend. Significant other. Yeah. Romantic interest. I mean, that might be a sign that she's the one. It might be. No pressure here, Preston, but if she recognizes the podcast, I mean, that's pretty good. That's a pretty good barometer right there.
Starting point is 00:08:56 Kristen, who is my wife, uh, the other day we were on the couch. I don't like to talk in this chat. So much, so much wife bragging. Alyssa was doing an NBA game the other night and Kristen did the Leo meme, like without trying to do it. And I was like, yes. Yes. That is our friend.
Starting point is 00:09:17 Yes. All right. Tony Lee, thank you for the $20 super. for chat. I always good to see Tony in the chat. How's it going, guys? Been doing a lot of mock drafts lately, PFF simulator, of course. Is it crazy for the Jets to take Sunny Stiles with the Colts pick? I think the Jets linebackers have looked terrible this year.
Starting point is 00:09:31 Tony, I am with you. They paid Jamie and Sherwood. The contract has not paid off very well this year. Quincy is a free agent after the year and has been up and down. Linebacker is going to be, I think, a pretty big need for the Jets and Sunny Stiles. I'm taking him in late first round. That's not crazy to me in this draft. I think him, C.J. Allen, like these, those are the guys.
Starting point is 00:09:53 You're going to see them connected to the Jets a little bit for sure. All right, rapid fire on a couple of these before we really dive into this. Jagger $5 super chat. USC fan here and wanted to let the people know that it is highly likely that Jaden Mayaba is returning to USC, according to people close to the program. Industry sources right there. Jagger. I like it. I like it.
Starting point is 00:10:14 Moves like Jagger over here. Wow. Sources like Jagger for the podcast. Wouldn't be me. Yeah. up your source game conner you ain't got anything on the jade myabba i don't know anything about you so that's good to know though man this class quarterback could be thinn and out we'll see when we get the mid january what the class is what it's all said and done so
Starting point is 00:10:34 spade thank you for the five dollar super chat how much to get treb to show up to work wearing a 2015 black hawk stanley cup champ shirt there's no price not a you've pride not not a not a not a not a peter in the world could uh could could could sponsor that happening Dan Moore and Peter could come together for a board of directors and they would not be able to report you. That's true. It's very true. We'll have that one day. Kev, $5 super chat.
Starting point is 00:11:00 I wore my goals jersey to my office job today. Did my manager tell me to go home and change? Yes. Did I? No. That is awesome. So Kev is basically saying that the price for him to wear such a jersey. work is whatever his salary is because that's what he would have paid to do it that is it's
Starting point is 00:11:23 freaking awesome that you have a goals jersey some of the whether it's a hl the ECHL the ECHL the oh HL like dude some of the jerseys of the non-NHL teams are insane yeah insane that's awesome Garrett thank you for the 10 dollar super chat first time long time and honestly got to ask where the browns because honestly if miles wasn't going off I don't know if I could make and then he stopped typing so maybe he didn't make it Oh, but damn. Yeah, he just, he couldn't take it anymore. Gary, you got it, Gary, you got to, Gary, you got to stay with this here because
Starting point is 00:11:56 Miles Garrett's about to break the sack record with like four games left to go. At least watch that and then watch fixing, pimping the Browns. Yeah, which will, which will be here at some point. We promise you. Last two here, Dan, $5 Super Chat. Ah, yes, Phil fixing the Falcons E.D. Love it. We will. Well, actually, they did a good job of that last year with the double-deadage.
Starting point is 00:12:16 Gabriel $5.5 super chat. This is the last one. then we'll really dig into it. If Michael Pennix comes back next year and struggles after injury, do the Falcons draft a quarterback due to his devastating injury, history, and his age. I think it's a really good way to usher in everything that we're going to be talking about here with the Falcons because we are going to answer that in depth here as we kick things off. Now, the Atlanta Falcons, they're four and eight on the season. Now, on the screen, I wanted to go all the way back to the Arthur Smith era, one, because it's contextually relevant, and two, because it's
Starting point is 00:12:48 it's objectively hilarious, that in the three years that he was their head coach, they just went seven and ten, three straight years in a row. And so that's no notes. That's kind of the consistency that you just money can't buy that kind of consistency, to be honest with you. Yeah, absolutely sabotage Bejohn Robinson's career and goes seven and ten. Arthur Smith's whiteboard every day when he walks into his office. That's what it was.
Starting point is 00:13:14 War on fantasy football. Do you remember that? I'll never forget it. That last year that he was there. It's arguably the best cold open we've ever done. Didn't you drop the F bomb for that one? Yeah, I think I actually did. Arthur Smith, Arthur Smith is the joker of fantasy football.
Starting point is 00:13:34 He will blow up cities over fantasy football. He really will. Yep, an all-timer. So then we have Raheemores last year goes 8 and 9, but I think the frustrating part of going 8 and 9 is they were 6 and 3. you know and so then you lose you lose six games you only win two down the stretch that's how math works yeah i like that's that's obviously it's it's tough to stomach because you felt like you could have had a better finish down the stretch last year with the falcons and
Starting point is 00:14:05 and this year as we kind of get into their offensive and defensive grades they're not terrible like the passing game hasn't been good because pennix hasn't been good and we'll take a deeper dive into that in a second. But when you look at the rest of the numbers here, the offensive line's pretty decent. The run game's great. The run game, they're top 10 in rushing great as a team with Tyler Alger and Bijan Robinson.
Starting point is 00:14:32 Their top 10 in EPA per rush. It's just the passing game that's really struggled for them. And then if you go to the defensive side of the football as well, I know a lot of people really harping on Jeff Olbrick, who you obviously know during his time when he was with the Jets. he's the defensive coordinator for the Atlanta Falcons. It's been up and down for them, but it's not like this is the worst unit in the world,
Starting point is 00:14:53 and they're young. Like, I always kind of figure that the Falcons defense, if they were middle of the pack this year, you feel pretty good about that, because there's going to be some weeks where they're borderline top 10 and they're playing really well, and there's going to be other weeks where they're just young and inexperienced and they're just learning.
Starting point is 00:15:10 And to be honest with you, Connor, I feel like that's what we've had from the Falcons. So it's a frustrating year. There's no doubt about it, especially because the bucks have been sputtering in the middle of the season. Carolina's been super up and down. If you're a Falcons fan, you're probably sitting there saying we should have been right there. We should have been right there with these teams. We could maybe even be at the top of the division, maybe not owning the division, but top of it.
Starting point is 00:15:36 And to me, it's just the struggles at quarterback have been a lot worse than we thought they were going to be in Pennix's first year as a full-time starter here. Yeah, I think that with a defense that's as young as they are, you see the highs and lows. They've had standout performances and plays, whether it's big time sacks or takeaways. And then they have blown assignments, you know, giving up big plays as well. We've seen that throughout the year. So I think it's tricky with the Falcons because when I was getting ready for this exercise, and I just saw this team because I covered the jet game on Sunday, but I've watched enough of them this year before.
Starting point is 00:16:15 That, like you said, O'Brick was with the Jets for a while. I know them pretty well schematically. Trevor, when I was just doing the prep for this exercise on paper, I'm like, this is not a bad football team. Right.
Starting point is 00:16:26 Not this bad right now. They are underachieving, which the head coach is always going to take on a lot of the blame for an underachieving team. The quarterback play will be scrutinized. And we'll have a large conversation about Pennix because I think that I've had, some schematic complaints
Starting point is 00:16:45 with this team as well and I don't think they're I don't think I know if Drake London even with Drake London on the field you look around at the past catchers and you're like who and what Darnell Mooney's been bad this year and hurt
Starting point is 00:17:00 all the time and then after that it's people that most NFL fans don't know or can't believe David Sills is still in the league so I'm serious so it's just there's a You just started, it was a sweeping statement to start, like, oh, you got players that, like, you maybe don't know, or you get to a point where David Sills is in the league. And it's like, you just. I'm sorry, David Sills specifically. I don't mean, I don't mean that, but I do. Um, yeah, it's just I've been disappointed because the start of this team, I'm like, damn, this is what they were building. They want to be fast and electric on defense. And they're going to hit some explosives through the past game, but they also want to obviously lean on their run game and not ask too much of Pennix. And, then it really just all fell apart fast for this team. Ken in the chat saying that the Legion of whom could stop this Falcon's passing attack.
Starting point is 00:17:49 And unfortunately, I do think that that's kind of true at this point because it's a little too individual, right? It's either Bejohn Robinson and Tyler Algier are kind of winning on their own in the run game or it's basically Drake London and that's it. We've seen some games where it's quite literally just been Drake London, right? I mean, like they've had nothing else. He's had 100-yard games and games where he's average over 30. 30% of a threat percentage, which if people are new to the PFF terminology, that's essentially
Starting point is 00:18:16 like wide receiver usage, how often you are being targeted per route that you are running. And the best in the NFL are normally somewhere around like mid to high 20s. And there are games where Drake London's in the 30s of just like we don't have anybody else here. And I think team building and a lot of the struggles have gone into that. And we're going to talk about Terry Fontno because to be honest with you, we'll talk about everything here. but I think Fontneau is most to blame. I agree with you.
Starting point is 00:18:43 If you have the three options of Terry Fontno, their general manager, Rahim Morris, their head coach, and Michael Pennix, the quarterback, Pennix's struggles obviously affect the team the most because it's on-field performance. But there are issues throughout the team, whether it's lack of past catchers,
Starting point is 00:19:01 lack of cornerbacks, and just a roster that feels like it's always kind of playing catch-up to the knees that they have had, and they're never really getting ahead of it. I feel like that's a font no thing. And so we'll talk a lot about him, but I wanted to talk specifically about Michael Pennix. And I just wanted to sort of break down what he has been this year in his first year as a
Starting point is 00:19:25 full-time starter. Because remember, Kirk Cousin started the year last year, but then Pennix ends up coming in when they really started struggling down the stretch. And so he took over and we knew that he was going to be the starter for them going into this season. What was it, was it that last, was that the last game of the year in Carolina where he had like seven big time throws? Like it was insane. I think so.
Starting point is 00:19:44 Because he, he started what, three down the stretch? And it felt like. Whatever that Carolina game was, whether it was the last game, I think it was the last game. I think so too. He had seven big time throws and we were like, buddy, we made it. Yeah. We absolutely made it. Yeah, when he came in, I mean, you're right.
Starting point is 00:20:04 That overtime loss against Carolina, where he threw for over time. 300 yards and he had all the big time throws the Washington game where they lost in overtime where like you just watched him and you're like yeah that's the guy that we were hoping for the Washington version of Michael Pennix right and I'm glad that you brought that up because that's one of the points I'm going to make in a second here with Pennix you see the numbers on the screen but for those who are audio only listeners we love you and appreciate you so 50.8 overall passing grade this season it's not great now again just to remind people when it comes of PFF grades, 60.0 is neutral. 60.0 is average because what PFF does is they grade every
Starting point is 00:20:45 play from every player. And depending on how well you executed the job that you were asked to do on that play, you will either get a neutral grade like, hey, you know, like you did your job. Like you were, you were fine on this play. Or you go above and beyond. You get like a plus 0.5, a plus 1, a plus 1.5. And it goes all the way up to a plus 2 for some of the greatest place you've ever seen in your life. And then on the other hand, if you didn't execute well enough, if you are a reason why a play failed, or if you missed a block that was obvious, or you missed a tackle, or you had a turnover-worthy play, well, all of a sudden, and then that's minus 0.5, minus 1, minus 1.5, and minus 2, depending on the severity of it. So a 60 is neutral. A lot of people
Starting point is 00:21:25 think of it as grades where they go like, okay, well, a 60 is a D-minus, and it's basically failing. That's not the scale that PFF works off of. So a 50.0 isn't horrible, but a lot of the quarterbacks in the NFL who are starters are somewhere around 70 and above anyways. He's got seven big time throws this year, which is a 2.5% big time throw percentage. And he has 10 turnover worthy plays, which is a 3.3 turnover worthy play percentage. Conner, that 2.5% big time throw percentage. That's not the Michael Pennix that we watched at Washington. I mean, he he had turnover worthy plays, but he was a big game hunter. Yeah, three point shooter all day. That's perfect. He is a three point shooter all day. And you see the adjusting completion percentage is okay. The time to
Starting point is 00:22:16 throw is okay. And the pressure to sack ratio of just a 12.3 percent. Like all of that stuff is okay from Pennix. Then you get into some of more of the advanced stats. that I wanted to dig into from him. Specifically, the ones that are at the very top of the screen here. Connor, this is what has been so shocking to me about Pennix this year, is that over the middle of the field, he has an 82.9 passing grade. So between the numbers, which is great.
Starting point is 00:22:44 You have to be able to attack over the middle of the field, and to be honest with you, with how much Pennix attacked outside the numbers at Washington? That was his game. I was a little worried about how he would be over the middle of the field in the end. It was a huge combo about him leading up to the draft. Rightfully so.
Starting point is 00:23:00 You know how much I liked panics, but that I thought that was a very fair conversation from people. And yet he's been pretty dang good at that this year. However, the outside the number stuff, this year he has a 54.2 passing grade outside the numbers. And Connor, seven of his turnover-worthy plays have happened outside the numbers. and the reason why is because he's not super confident right now and when you're late to the outside that's when it gets dangerous that's when you're inaccurate that's when you have the
Starting point is 00:23:36 turnover worthy plays and right now he's just not super confident very common of a first year full-time starter right but that is where we're out with him and we'll have the injury conversation in a second but that's really what i've been seeing I'm actually pleasantly surprised with how well he's played between the numbers. But it's that outside the number stuff that he's very skittish of right now in a way that we haven't seen from Pennix in three or four years going back to his two years of Washington. Yeah, right.
Starting point is 00:24:08 So how you're highlighting it is the glass half full is, well, he's throwing really well in the middle of the field. And we've seen him at the college level throw outside the numbers as well as anyone over the last couple years. That last year for sure. We know it's in there. My schematical complaint, this is something I've talked about before he got hurt,
Starting point is 00:24:29 where, and that's a takeaway blame from Penix, because he's a better player than what he showed this year, and he's got to be better for them to be the future of this team, is that what I don't understand is why they do such little play action when your run game is so good, and you have the threat of Bejan Robinson, for instance, Trevor, this year, his play action dropback percentage was 19.5% of the time.
Starting point is 00:24:57 For some context, the first guy I Googled just out of like curiosity, not Googled, searched was Matthew Stafford, who's 37.5% of the time. And the reason I'm complaining about this number being so low for Penix is it's one of the metrics he's really good at. I think he's an elite passing grade on play action throws. Yes. he is he's uh 72 passing grade which is his highest mark compared to no play action in the screen game and no screen all right he averages almost nine yards per attempt off play action
Starting point is 00:25:33 throws yeah so it's it's one of those things where he's you know he's only taking three sacks it's one of those things where you're sitting there and you're going why don't they do more of this because when you watch the tape of it it creates so much space in the intermediate area of the field because it's Bejohn Robinson, you have to respect it. It forces the middle of your defense, the linebackers, to step forward.
Starting point is 00:25:57 And then Pennix is excellent at throwing over their heads. And they do so little of it. And I just, there are faults in Pennix's game this year, but that to me is a big fault in the play calling that I just don't understand. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:26:13 And I thought it was going to be a really good year. for Zach Robinson as their play caller and it just, it hasn't. Like I understand that they really only have Drake London to be able to throw the ball to, but there are little... Which is a Fottano, a big glaring indictment on Fottano.
Starting point is 00:26:31 That's unacceptable. We will get to that in a few minutes here. We will. But even with that being the case, it feels like he's not helping himself because you mentioned just a 19% play action percentage. I remember when we were five or six weeks into
Starting point is 00:26:47 season, I remember seeing this number. And the Falcons were dead last in play action percentage. And I was like, what? Like by a long shot, they were dead last. And I was like, why are we doing this? When it came to motion rates, they were fine. I think they were around like the NFL standard. But play action, they were almost never running it. And when you take it even further than that, my co-host on the PFF NFL show, Dalton Wasserman pointed this out. Again, I think this was around when we were five, six weeks into the season. He's like, Trevor, you realize that they're basically tipping their pitches. And I was like, what are you talking about on offense? And he's like, 80 to 85% of the time that they're under
Starting point is 00:27:34 center, they run the football. 80 to 85% of the time they're in shotgun, they pass. And I was like, that's crazy high numbers. You can't be that predict. at what you're doing. No. And I don't know if they realized it even at the time that they just, the plays that they liked in the passing game, they were installing from the shotgun and a lot of the plays that they liked from the run game, they were installing from under center. But whatever it was, we picked up on it.
Starting point is 00:28:05 I'm sure other teams picked up on it too. So now you're becoming really predictable with what's coming run, run versus pass. And you're not utilizing play. action for any sort of deception even when you're doing one or the other. So that's why I just, it's, it's been a tough year for Zach Robinson, to be honest with you guys. And we'll talk a little bit more about Rahim Morris and what I think of him still being the head coach here. But to be honest, I think that what's most likely is that Rahim's going to get another shot next year and he's going to get just a new offense coordinator. Because it has not worked
Starting point is 00:28:43 with Robinson. No. Arthur Blank is a patient man and you have to wonder does he just roll it back with Rahim one more year or is it because of the way the seasons have gone where it starts off promising and then just decays into madness. And then the issue is, and Pennix is at the forefront of this, they are now in the odd in between, right? Where we did this with a lot of GMs this year, but notably, what did we just go through
Starting point is 00:29:21 the draft history on Monday? It was, oh, Quessie. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Cuezzi, Joe Shane, a bunch of different guys this year. Terry Fontno is unfortunately kind of trending towards that bucket of the drafts just, the player acquisition is just not good enough. Yeah. But are you going to only move on from Terry and then attach a different GM to Rahim?
Starting point is 00:29:44 Do you move on from everyone? And then as a new regime trying to figure out what they do with and injured Michael Penix? There are so many warped timelines now that maybe all of that just leads to Arthur Blank being like, let me give all of these guys one more year. And like you said, Trevor, the button you can press when you do that is a new play caller for sure. I admittedly don't have a lien here. I could see a scenario where Rahim's gone. I could see a scenario where Rahim and Terry are gone.
Starting point is 00:30:12 I could see a scenario where everyone's back and they just hire a new offensive coordinator. They are very tricky. And I want Falcons fans or anybody in the chat to kind of give their thoughts on what will happen or what they want to happen because I'm curious. If I had to lean one way, Arthur Blank is not notorious for doing this, but it might be time to just kind of start the clean slate one year early rather than one year late. I think I think that is a possibility let's let's talk about Terry Fontno
Starting point is 00:30:45 and let's dig into that because I think that'll naturally get us into the conversation with him it'll get us into the conversation with Rahim and then we'll bring it back to Pennix and sort of the game plan that you and I will have to fix this franchise moving forward before we do that though folks
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Starting point is 00:31:25 off. All the mock drafts, everything. So we don't want you guys to miss it. We would love for you to be here for it. And if you're not subscribed, we would love for you to be. So we would really appreciate that. Terry Font, no. Let's look at the background. that he has played safety at Tulane wanted a shout at the football routes that he has there New Orleans Saints scouts scout from 2003 to 2012 then he was in New Orleans Saints director of pro scouting from 2013 to 2019 then he was their assistant GM in 2020 then he was hired as the Falcons general manager in 2021 he's got a 33 and 47 record as the Falcons general manager he was also
Starting point is 00:32:01 interesting enough hired after Arthur Smith during this process So technically he's only hired one head coach. This isn't, I think some people might look at it and be like, oh, he's, what are we going to give him a third crack at head coach? Technically, he's only hired one head coach. So that does kind of go into the equation there. Connor, I think that the team building has been an issue. And we'll get to the draft history part of this in a second.
Starting point is 00:32:30 But I think the root of the issues with why I say that their roster has always been one step behind instead of one step forward starts back in 2021 when they went after Deshawn Watson. That is where all of this goes wrong in my opinion because was Matt Ryan great his last two years in Atlanta? No. But you were in a situation where could have potentially you know like gotten another year out of him. You could have played a patient with quarterback for one more season. But they didn't do that. They went after Deshawn. despite him not playing at all the year before because of the 22 sexual assault allegations
Starting point is 00:33:12 that he had against him. They went after him hard in the trade market. Obviously, they didn't end up getting him. He ends up going to the Cleveland Browns. But because all of that became so public in their pursuit of Deshawn Watson, Matt Ryan was like, okay, screw you guys. Right. Franchise legend.
Starting point is 00:33:32 You didn't want me here. I'm not going to play for you. So then, that entire relationship sours Matt Ryan I can't remember if he publicly demanded a trade but for all intents of purposes
Starting point is 00:33:47 demanded out so they had to trade him to the Colts because I think the Colts didn't have Carson Wentz at the time so they go get Matt Ryan so now they're sitting here with what do we do we struck out on Deshawn we didn't get to Sean
Starting point is 00:34:00 now we don't even have our backup plan and Matt Ryan because they were kind of trying to have their cake and eat it too behind the scenes right so then plan C was they signed Marcus Marriota and then they drafted Desmond Ritter. Marriota started most of the 2022 season, but they eventually got benched at the end of the year and they gave Desmond Ritter a look. Now, the problem is, and I see some people in the chat talking about this a little bit earlier, is they were like, oh, we gave up on Desmond Ritter
Starting point is 00:34:25 way too early. I know. Desmond Ritter was not the answer for you. But the problem is, is that you waited too long to start Desmond Ritter. You only gave him four games at the end of the year. Now, Arthur Smith was just trying to win as many games as possible. So he's just trying to play the best quarterback. And shocker, it was the veteran instead of the third round rookie. But because you only gave Desmond Ritter four games, you had no choice but to say, well, we have too small of a sample size.
Starting point is 00:34:55 Right. So now you have to go into next year with Desmond Ritter as your quarterback. they then entered the 2020, what was this, 2023 draft, no, no, no, this was the 2024 draft, with a massive need at pass rusher and defensive line, but instead they had to overcompensate the entire offseason at quarterback because they didn't have one. Desmeritor didn't work out for them.
Starting point is 00:35:22 So then they had to go and spend a ton of, well, they didn't have to, they spent a ton of money on Kirk Cousins, and then they drafted the number eight, Penix with the number eight overall pick completely ignored pass rusher because they had to make up for not having a quarterback then the next year what we just saw this past draft
Starting point is 00:35:37 they have to totally overcompensate drafting both Jalen Walker trading up for James Pierce Jr. and then what happens now you have a cornerback need that you didn't touch entirely so this this whole team building process stems from
Starting point is 00:35:54 the swing and miss that they had on Deshawn Watson and ever since then, they have been one step behind on their roster needs, and they have not been able to get ahead. And ultimately, in my opinion, that falls on Terry Fawn. No, it does. It has to. It does. And the process with the offseason of both quarterbacks is maybe the most alarming of all, because it was not a scenario where they went out and got Kirk Cousins and then said, we want to develop a guy behind Cousins. I promise you, that wasn't the scenario. The process was they fell in love with Pennix after signing cousins and promising cousins
Starting point is 00:36:37 that job for a couple years and everything that came with it. And then they liked Pennix so much who was not a staff. Like it wasn't like when Mahomes was drafted. When Mahomes was drafted, everybody knew Mahomes was going to sit that first year at least. It wasn't even a thought that he would have to play. And Pennix and. Bo Nix and Jaden Daniels that year,
Starting point is 00:37:01 one of the big positives for those three guys was, man, they played a lot of college football at two different places, all three of them, all three of them. So now you, they pissed off Kirk Cousins. I mean, he was pissed off when they took Pennix. You've created a bad environment right off the bat. You've sunk a ton of cap space into Kirk Cousins. It's just, that's wasted.
Starting point is 00:37:28 resources and it's a poor process. Why did you not know your thoughts on penics in the quarterback class before investing all that money into Kirk Cousins? That's a bad process and that's a that process is led by the general manager
Starting point is 00:37:44 and ultimately I think it's what's going to kind of define his regime that failed. I think so too. I will say that there has to be an Arthur Blank angle here too. Because I don't know how much of a lot of these moves, especially at quarterback, where Arthur Blank fueled, because
Starting point is 00:38:04 owners, when they meddle, they basically only meddle at quarterback, typically. They don't, they let you build the rest of the roster. But Arthur Blank was absolutely involved in pursuing Deshawn Watson. Yeah. And therefore, pissing off Matt Ryan and therefore not having any sort of a quarterback. Arthur Blank, you have to believe, because of how much money they gave Kirk Cousins was absolutely involved in going into that 2024 off season and basically saying I'm done with this. We swung and missed on Deshaun in 2021. It's three years later. We have no quarterback plan. We're going to spend the money. He tried to risk proof the quarterback position. They dropped $150 million on Kirk Cousins. And then they dropped the number eight
Starting point is 00:38:55 overall pick on Michael Pennix. They basically said, something to work. We're breaking, we're breaking the rules. You tell us, you tell us that quarterback isn't something that you could
Starting point is 00:39:05 throw money at and fix. BS, we're going to do it. We're going to put that to the test. And guess what? They did? It failed. It doesn't work like that. And so I think that has to go into
Starting point is 00:39:16 the Terry Fontno discussion here. But that's also not to completely let him off the hook. Because the rest of the drafts, the rest of the free agent editions have, like I said, reflected a roster that's always one step behind. You know, let's pull up the draft history here from him because I think that it's good to get a good feel of like what the draft history is here.
Starting point is 00:39:45 2025, you got Jalen Walker in the first round and get James Pierce Jr. in the second round. They got Xavier Watts and they got Billy Bowman. I think that's a great. great draft from the players that you got now the problem is that's my grade yes the problem is is that if you look at the james pierce junior trade if you take the draft pick value from draft tech of where the falcons are currently sitting that is minus 1,000 draft points in the red for what they gave up to go get James Pierce, Jr. It's almost unfathomable.
Starting point is 00:40:32 And if you want to say, well, they thought they might be a playoff team this year, even if you move that draft pick from this year all the way back to like the early 20s, that's still about negative 400, negative 500 in the draft value chart. That is, I like James Pierce Jr. I liked him a lot. Now that he's on the team, good football player. I think he's going to help your roster.
Starting point is 00:41:02 But from a strategy of how you operate as a GM, there's no other way to put it. Massive overpay. And why do you overpay, Connor? Because you're a step behind. Right. You're desperate man. That's how you get to that point.
Starting point is 00:41:20 And it's just not a healthy way to manage a team. and that was why I gave this a B minus because I like the players. I really do. But at what cost? And Nick in the chat just said it. They gave up a first for Pierce, two picks after the Giants gave up a third to go get dart.
Starting point is 00:41:37 Yep. That, I mean, it's one thing you paid a hefty price to get a player you love. It's another thing when the price you pay doesn't align with the rate at all. So it's a little bit of like, yeah they got good players here but it's going to cost them in the future especially a year where this pick could have been really really valuable to them in a lot of different areas
Starting point is 00:42:02 it's and you're right like the desperation angle to font no is now also another problem so somebody somebody in the chat said no no no red's good they're the they're the falcons they call their colors are red red's good at that 1,000 in the red is good shout out presser for that one also shout out bangle in the chat we got bengel in there he is uh bengel said what was his first comment hold on he said uh terry needs to find another top 10 pick to draft another skill position player kenyon sedik come on down specifically number eight overall bengel because that's where they've picked the last three years in a row and which is ironic connor because that's kind of where they're headed again this year.
Starting point is 00:42:53 But they don't have to. They don't make the pick. But they don't make the pick. In honor of the Falcons should, the Rams should walk up and have Roger Goodell walk to the podium and be like the ram said in honor of this being originally the Falcons pick, the Los Angeles Rams select Kenyon Sadiq eighth overall. Yeah, I mean, Tyler, you could you could scroll through some of the draft history right now
Starting point is 00:43:16 because actually can you go can you go back to the that's the 2024 class so the 2024 class and I don't I don't hate the last couple of classes that he's had like 24 obviously penics if it doesn't work out I mean it makes then that defines this class it defines a class yeah that's the way that you say it but like rook's okay brailyn trice unfortunately has just been hurt in each of the last two years brandon doorless I think is good value at round four he's somebody who I would have taken in the top 100 Jace McClanlon is a decent backup running back. Zion Logue's an okay backup defensive lineman.
Starting point is 00:43:49 You're getting some decent day three picks in there. I don't hate the last two drafts in a vacuum. Definitely don't love them. Well, I hate the situation surrounding them. Right. Of how we got to the names on paper. But you start scrolling back and we get to 2021 specifically. There's a 2023 class as the Bejan year.
Starting point is 00:44:09 The 22 class is basically just, you know, Drake London, and here's the 2021 class, right? This is tough to look at, because we do a lot of these exercises, and general managers are typically not great with their first drafts. Unfortunately for Terry Fonten, though, 2021 ruled. There were so many incredible football players that were taken in the 2021 NFL drafts. and you got the worst of the bunch in Kyle Pitts Richard Grant's not there anymore
Starting point is 00:44:50 Jalen Mayfield is not there anymore Darren Hall is not Drew Dalman's on another team now played well for them good pay right and then let him go not even there anymore so you had a what was this one two three four five six seven eight nine player class that is a complete done complete done I mean taking Kyle Pitts over Jamar Chase
Starting point is 00:45:10 come on now what was there they still have Julio at the time let me see let me scroll back I mean how old was Julio at the time hold on I'm looking at the month before this draft they did have Julio oh and they had Calvin Ridley
Starting point is 00:45:30 they would have never done it would have never done it I mean it was this the last year did Calvin Ridley have the gambling stuff immediately after this I think he did because that's just an all-time bad beat. No pun intended. There's just so many better options, man.
Starting point is 00:45:50 Micah. But this isn't hindsight either. I mean, I have 2021 rankings. I didn't agree with Pitts going here. I don't think it's hindsight. Oh, Julio got traded after the draft? That makes it worse. Julio was traded right after.
Starting point is 00:46:09 I forgot that and and Calvin Ridley one year later got suspended for a year for gambling which okay you can't see that coming but it's just a bad it's a bad yeah and no that was I didn't mean to cut you off but
Starting point is 00:46:29 that was the following year is when Ridley left a team for mental health reasons yeah he had a lot going on so he left the the team midseason with mental health reasons and then he got suspended on March of 2022 the following off season that is that is so bad to not have Jamar chase on your team then at that point with with Kyle Pitts obviously you know his story unfolding the way that it did
Starting point is 00:46:55 damn yeah this was the beginning of the oh boy stuff brother but I mean once again he did not to just get hung up on the Kyle Pitts pick forever like Richie Grant and Jalen Mayfield yeah you can't only you can't only you You can only miss on so many top 75 picks. And I'm not saying they need to be all pros, but she'd be on a roster for you. Freddie said I completely underestimated how much going through this would upset me. We apologize.
Starting point is 00:47:28 All right, Connor. I, okay, I was about to say, I think Terry Fontneau should go. I think they should move on from him. Yeah, I'm with you. But before we talk about GM candidates, do we think it's realistic? Like, do, because now we're in a situation where it's, it's a little bit tricky. Very clearly, Arthur has worked with Terry Fontneau on multiple big signings and draft picks and everything.
Starting point is 00:47:59 So I have to think that, that he likes him. It's not like he doesn't like him as general manager. Rahim Morris is in his second year. And as much as people don't like Rahim, I think it would be unfair to let him go after this year. I really do. I think that you kind of have to look at the struggle with offensive coordinator specifically and give him one more year with a different offensive coordinator. I think that's fair.
Starting point is 00:48:29 Yeah. I like hiring the GM and the coach on the same together. Together, which has me hung up here. I don't, here's the problem, and I know the chat is kind of leaning this way as well. Like, I root for Rahim. There's nothing I can put my hat on right now and say, yeah, this looks good. Let's, it's going to get a lot better. And he, so, man, there's a super chat.
Starting point is 00:48:56 Let me find it because this is really important here. And it was a really good one from Ken. Ken, thank you for the $10 super chat. He said, what kind of offensive coordinator candidates are you going to be able to attract with a coach on the not seed and no real answer a quarterback feels like you need to hit a full reset of coaching the team at that point so very fair from it might be kent k is either kent hoder or ken thoder i'm going to say you're kent shout out to kent i think i called him ken earlier for that very reason to play it safe just or he's ken t hoder or it's k and thoder yeah that actually
Starting point is 00:49:36 might be the one i'm really hoping that it's k and thoder is the last name i think you're on to something uh ken please let us know what we need to call you i i can't go off the show until i have this we want to be addressing you by your proper name so i actually did have coordinator candidates that i wrote down province coordinator believe it or not all right first one familiar name Familiar face. Brian Dable. Brian Dable potentially is the offensive coordinator for this team. Now, I think it's, I think it kind of gets ugly if he's the offensive coordinator.
Starting point is 00:50:14 He's Kent Hoder. It's Kent? Yeah, he said Kent Hoder, unfortunately. Whoa, whoa. But K and Thoder is elite. There's still time. You can change it. There is still time.
Starting point is 00:50:29 Brian Dable obviously makes a lot of sense just because he's got the experience. is an offensive play caller. It just, you start getting real tricky, right? I mean, like, if the Falcon season starts one and three, the pitchforks are going to be out, people are going to want Rahim out. They're going to want, you know,
Starting point is 00:50:44 Brian Daibold to finish the year as head coach. Like, you set up a pretty explosive situation. The problem. Right, right. And the other guys are unproven guys. The one that I think is sort of the Hail Mary is getting Ryan Grubbs back in the NFL. And the reason why is because Grubbs,
Starting point is 00:51:02 was Pennix's offensive coordinator when he was at Washington. He's the whisperer. Now, right now, Grubbs is back at Alabama under DeBore again, because he was under DeBore when they were all at Washington, obviously. Now he's the offensive coordinator in Alabama. He was the offensive coordinator for the Seattle Seahawks last season, and he, it was very strange. Like him and Mike McDonald just like were like budding heads.
Starting point is 00:51:28 Water and oil. Water and oil for sure. I'm like gas and open flame, honestly. That's how it felt, but that's pretty. It just didn't work for Ryan Grubb at the NFL level. I think he's a very smart offensive coordinator, and he's kind of like a little bit in the Todd Munkin bombs away, which I always liked.
Starting point is 00:51:51 Dude, Todd Munkin for this team. Oh, man. You and I love Todd Munkin. I don't know why the NFL. I don't know either. Whatever. We won't go down that road today. I don't know either.
Starting point is 00:52:03 Colin said the panic whisper. Easy. Easy. Yeah. A little whisper and it rises up. Hey, all right, easy. So, so what are we, so what are we doing here? What are we doing here?
Starting point is 00:52:18 Obviously, obviously, we got to wipe it. The chats, the chat's like a, the chats like a king's landing crowd. You know what I'm saying? It's so true. The chat has. When we do fix your franchises, we're Joffrey and they're the. king's landing crowd at an execution they they want they want they came to see something right they got off work early they're gathering around the square they don't want to see this guy get pardoned chop his head
Starting point is 00:52:45 off who cares if he's king in the north spoiler sorry when when ned got the axe how shocked were you on a television scale from one to ten i didn't read the the first book before I watched the show. So I didn't know anything. So are you standing right there? You're like, you can't do this. It's not in front of a child.
Starting point is 00:53:10 I, Alyssa actually filmed my reaction. Oh, man. And I'm, I like walk off, I like walk off the couch and I go to the kitchen. And I just like put my hands on the counter. And I'm just like staring there. Because I didn't start Game of Thrones until all of
Starting point is 00:53:29 the seasons. I remember this. You live tweeted it. It was great content. And I was live tweeting it. And it was hilarious because I was, you know, like making predictions on a show that already finished that everybody in the world had watched other than me. And I was just like, there's eight more seasons after this. You, you killed them, you, you killed literally the main character. And there's eight more seasons. What are we doing here? Where do we go now? And, boy, they, they kind of got there. But yeah. Yeah. anyways back to the falcons some people some people some people are saying spoilers look guys yeah if you haven't watched it by now yeah i think game of thrones ended like seven years ago
Starting point is 00:54:10 you should keep watching it though because like even knowing even knowing exactly what you know now how we might have spoiled it for you the show is the best show of all time it's nuts i agree even with the screwing up the ending not for more spoilers the seasons one through six is like all all time Yeah, even with zombie Ned Stark coming back, you know. Right. With the with a flamethrower strapped to his back. I can't believe that episode. In the back to the future car.
Starting point is 00:54:40 He arrives at the wall. What's up? The tires are smoking. There's fire coming from the skin marks. Just mowing down white walkers. This is the dumbest podcast of all time. It really is stupid. Okay.
Starting point is 00:54:57 fine let's clean house GM candidates basically it's the same ones that we mentioned on Monday you know Ian Cunningham Ed Dodds Ryan Cowden Ray Agnew
Starting point is 00:55:10 you guess you see those guys on the screen sort of where they're at Al Calaby who's the assistant GM for the Eagles Cunningham he's the assistant GM for the Bears Cowden who I really like a lot VP of personnel for the Patriots he's Brable's kind of
Starting point is 00:55:25 guy that he wants Brable wanted him as general manager with the Titans before they promoted Rand Carthin and now he's with the Patriots because he had him come over. But what do you think? You would pick Dodds for the Vikings. Right.
Starting point is 00:55:38 On Monday, you got any leaning with any of these guys here? Yeah, I'd go Halliby for this job because I think they need somebody that can restock the assets analytically is my take. I think Halliby would be able to get them up speed in valuing and acquiring capital the right way, utilizing cap space as a weapon kind of the way Philadelphia does with the compensatory picks and just give them a totally different approach.
Starting point is 00:56:11 Like you just hired last time the traditional area scout, you know, pathway. Now you're going to go a totally different direction. Halaby is a bold hire because he's more of an outside the box kind of, you know lead up throughout his career but yeah i this is the team that i would i would go that direction for yeah haliby's kind of been the the right-hand man as jordan rodrigue wrote with these candidates to to howie roseman and how he's obviously very hands-on right i mean it's not like how he's like not doing it himself but um he's been a big part of the the eagles organization
Starting point is 00:56:47 a lot of people were asking for ian cunningham as well on monday cunningham is is he was a finalist for the Jags GM job last opening interview with Titans as well so I think I would consider him I like Cowden but if you like Halliby no I mean I think I picked last one so if you want to take Cowden this time my whole Cowden take is I could be dead wrong I think he's just with Rabel until like till the very end maybe I think those guys lost a lot of trust in people with how things ended in Tennessee and now that they are entrenched in a place where they feel comfortable with the trust factor, they'll just stay there as long as they can.
Starting point is 00:57:29 Okay. But once again, like, that's my opinion. I don't mind for this exercise as higher and counted. I like, did he, uh, he's been on a bunch of GM interviews over the last handful of seasons. I feel like a lot of these guys have. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:57:49 Hallaby was pretty deep in the Jets last year. Dodds has been a finalist. multiple jobs multiple years let's go with haliby okay yeah we'll go haliby here for general manager for the falcons um spreadsheets out get the spreadsheets out head coach head coach options for this team i didn't write any down because they didn't know if we were getting rid of rehem the chat kind of like you said kings landing crowded us yeah yeah they're all screaming and throwing stuff Shula is the obvious. Clint Kubiak
Starting point is 00:58:22 is another I don't think Michael's getting fired at this point in Miami and he's getting another year. It really feels that way. He's dug himself out of the hole. Yeah, Kingsbury. I think I'd go Kubiak.
Starting point is 00:58:42 Have we done Kubiak for another team yet? I know we've talked about him. Oddly enough, I don't think so. I don't think we have. let's go Clint Kubiak let's go Clint Kubiak here for their head coach Kubiak would certainly use more play action there you go
Starting point is 00:59:02 he absolutely would somebody saying Munkin I'd love Todd Munkin to be the head coach of this team I just I don't think he's going to get it no I don't think that Arthur Blank's going to want like a hot shot But Kenny said bring Mayock out of retirement for general manager.
Starting point is 00:59:23 Shout of Mike Mayock, truly. Yep. Legend of the industry. Okay, we're going with Hallaby as general manager. We're going with Clint Kubiak as head coach, because I think that's the direction that Arthur Blank's going to go. And then we'll dig into the rest of the roster here in a second. Before we do that, it's all the people with kids out there.
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Starting point is 01:02:25 All right. Josh Rebar. Bags? M. Bags. Just like Kent. Yeah. And then Thotter. And Thotter.
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Starting point is 01:02:50 Which one? Anyways, when did the Steelers getting pimped? Please tell me that they are getting pimped. How deep do the issues go? They run deep. You know what's a hot topic picking up on your, you love New York Sports Radio now, ever since I introduced it to years?
Starting point is 01:03:06 Yeah, absolutely. Mike Tomlin to the Giants. Yeah. We don't have to even address it. I'm just, I'm just laying it out. It's like the callers and everyone loves it. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:03:19 Everybody just loves the change like that. Gaming time. Thank you for the $2 super chat to own me. Reminder for Connor that Kako played against men. He's referencing that when people thought Kako could be a better prospect than Jack Hughes, it was because he played overseas against men. And yeah, that didn't work out. Jack Kiko's no longer on the Rangers, but what are you going to do?
Starting point is 01:03:42 Life of a Ranger fan. What are you going to do? Ethan, $2. Super Chat said, as a Panthers fan, I request not fixing the Falcons. Well, look, you, you, you think I enjoy this? You think. Right. You think I like doing this?
Starting point is 01:03:59 Somebody's got to. Somebody's got to do it. It's going to be us, damn it. McFarland, thank you for the super chat. Shout out my boy, Stephen, watching on his TV. Wait, that's Stephen. Wait, hold on. So McFarland is, is watching the show.
Starting point is 01:04:15 show on Stevens TV, or is he saying that Stevens watching on his own TV? No, I think, I think McFarlane forgot a comma and meant that he's watching on his boy, Stevens TV. Yeah, there we go. Nice. Shout to the boys. Uh, ooh, $2 from T law said, bigger issue is Rich McKay and Blank's ear, not Terry. You know, again, when, when we start talking about ownership issues, I don't know.
Starting point is 01:04:41 We don't know. Those are incredibly difficult to analyze because a lot of the meetings that the owners have, or like closed door stuff. Thank you for the super chat. Odd Estime. Put this on the living room TV. Roommate's girlfriend asked, who are the dorks on TV?
Starting point is 01:04:54 Never kicking her out of the house until now. Yeah, she's got to go. She'll learn. She'll learn. She doesn't have to go home, but she cannot stay there. Just do her favor. Next time you have her phone,
Starting point is 01:05:05 go to YouTube.com backslash at NFL Stock Exchange. Subscribe to the show. And she'll make sure, she'll get it next time that you turn it on. Jayberg's $5. What's you guys to take on Gabe Accus
Starting point is 01:05:17 Accus Almost went with the soft It's like a sneeze Accus Top 50 pick Led the Big Ten in sacks Doesn't mean everything But he had a productive year
Starting point is 01:05:27 For sure, Drake May Um No I think Acus is solid man It's very strange Illinois continues to use him as a stand-up rusher Despite the fact that he's like Six foot six and
Starting point is 01:05:42 280 pounds So I think he'll play in a little bit of a different spot in the NFL. But I don't know about top 50 pick, but I think that he's solidly a day two pick, in my opinion. I'm with you all the way. I've watched a lot of ACUS this year. It's weird because he was so good as a freshman,
Starting point is 01:05:57 then he had a slump year, and now he's been back on the rise. So we'll land right on day two. Zoyks! Thank you for the $5 super chat. Don't forget about Gators legend and current Falcon Felipe Franks. He walked so DJ Lagway could run.
Starting point is 01:06:11 Hey, he is in this show. He's in this show. You'll know it when you see it. Moonbeam Man, $5 super chat. We need to have a real talk about Pennix being the future when he's healthy. As a Falcons fan, a guy like Desmond Ritter, would be a great signing. That's a Saints undercover cop if I've ever seen one. Ritter's not even in the league.
Starting point is 01:06:34 Yeah, I don't think he is. He's not. I look before the show because I was like, damn. Yeah, I mean, the issue with Pennix is we're on ACL tear number three now, unfortunately. Two to his right knee and one to his left. And that's now getting really, really difficult to say, hey, yeah, we feel really good about this guy in the future. And we'll get to the roster part of this in a second.
Starting point is 01:06:52 Micah Kitei, does Staley scare you for Shula? Staley. Is he talking about a Brandon Staley? Like, does the Staley experience scare me off of hiring Shula? I guess I'm guessing. No. No. Absolutely not.
Starting point is 01:07:12 Man, the stale era was weird, wasn't it? I made that video where he was like, I want all the smoke. Yeah, yeah, it was, it didn't go great. Is he got what you wanted? Is he the DC with the Saints still? Yes, which was one of those like moments this year for me where I was like, oh, that's where he is. Yeah, hey, get a paycheck. Love it for a lot of money.
Starting point is 01:07:34 Cole, $10 super chat. Choose your fighter for lighting resources on fire. Fawno versus Cressy. Love the pod munchkins. Oh, Lodgkins. That's like, I appreciate y'all. All right, dude. I think Quessie is, oh, man.
Starting point is 01:07:52 See, I was going to say Quessie, because I think his draft history has been worse. However, I think it's Quessie. Yeah, but like, even just the James Pierce Jr. alone trade, the cumulative draft value lost in that trait. He got his ass on that one. It's probably, Terry's probably more. in the red. I don't know, man. It's, it's not great. Both are like when you wake up. You don't want to be there. You don't want to be there. When you start your day at the casino
Starting point is 01:08:23 hotel and you walk through the lobby because you have to go do something at 7 a.m. And the guys at the table have not gone to bed yet. Both of them are in that kind of red right now. The shirts are buttoned a little too far. The gold chain and the chest hair sticking out. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Screw it. I'll smoke a marlboro red. Yeah. You look, you look over. The guy takes off his watch puts it on the table in the middle of the table yeah that's when you know it's when you know you've been there too long uh yeah that's when you know nation station gaming Trevor wear my hat like Brian Flores sycamah you do got the Bflow hat style what does that mean it's just like is it low no it's like just the right amount of
Starting point is 01:09:02 curved but not overly curved but you still got a little bit of a mid profile yeah but I think Flores wears a hat because he doesn't have hair you have good hair thanks appreciate nation i feel like that's a little i feel nation i feel like that was a little disrespectful and for that i'm gonna blacklist you from getting in an infillacy i'm just kidding i'm just kidding i'm just kidding uh malachi shaw thank you for the two dollar super chat hoodat 94 thank you for the two dollar super chat and macfarland again thank you for the five dollar super chat if hurrah stays the OC will be the quarterback coach their quarterback coach i'll tell you right now all right all right and then i'll read this one this is the last super chat before we get in the roster here
Starting point is 01:09:42 Brochmo $10. Another great friend of the show. I've been on Brochmo's channel a couple of times. I've done a couple of mock drafts with them. It's always a great time. Again, if you guys are following this channel, you should be following Brochmo's channel as well, covering the NFL draft.
Starting point is 01:09:56 I know he's a Dolphins fan. He says, don't let these tubs fool anyone. The Dolphins need to fix their franchise. So the Dolphins Fix your franchise could still be coming, Brochmo. It could be, but make sure you guys go check out their channel as well. The quarterback coach is DJ. Williams, former quarterback.
Starting point is 01:10:13 If you said DJ Lagway, I was going to walk off the set. No. I was going to, I was going to walk off. He was a quarterback for Grambling State from 2011 to 2014. And then he's been on NFL staffs for a long time now, Saints before the Falcons. All right. So DJ Williams maybe going to get his shot. Wow.
Starting point is 01:10:34 Hold on one more colossal five. He's got a nice cold chain in his headshot. In his head shot? Yeah. He's got like number one, guy still does shrugs which i love that all right what's his name dj williams he's a falcons quarterback's coach still does shrugs and he's got a sick gold chain he's maybe they do keep rehem and hire him brother hold what hold on wait a second what are we talking about this guy
Starting point is 01:10:59 coaching for put on the pads yeah i was going to say yep we're running wish bone dj you're out there put on the pads colossal five dollar super chat this last one love the show guys much love from Sarasota, Florida. A, Sarasota, Florida, Bay Area stand up. Nice. All right. Take a look at the roster now. Projected starting lineup. I have quarterback in question marks, and I have panics, like, you know, maybe, but I think it's even ready to start the year? That's the thing, is it's a partial ACL tear, but he's still had to have surgery and it's still going to be a good amount of time before he's able to ramp up and really play. I feel like he could be ready to start the season next year, but you
Starting point is 01:11:39 basically go into next season the same way that we talked about Minnesota with J.J. McCarthy. You have to have something else. You have to have a legitimate option outside of him to at the very least start the season. And it's not going to be Kirk Cousins. And we'll, and we'll tell you why here in a second. Bejohn's obviously the starting running back. You got Drake London at wide receiver. The rest of the tight ends of wide receivers, Darnel Mooney's a free agent. Wait, is he? No, I don't think he is. I think he is. No, no, no. He's not, but he's an easy. He's guaranteed to be. be cut. He's an easy cut for this team. Kyle Pitts is a free agent. Shoot, Tyler
Starting point is 01:12:14 Algiers is even a free agent for this team. They got moves they got to make to make this team better. Jake Matthews and Caleb McGarry. In theory, you're starting offense attack with Matthew Bergeron and Chris Lindstrom. In theory, you're starting guards. They have Ryan New Zealand at center, but they could upgrade there. So potentially New Zeal, but it might be an upgrade as set. I hate to stop you, but the chat is having a meltdown. The person that said the quarterback coach met t j yates who's the past game coordinator would be up would be elevated to oc i i say just put both of them in the octagon right let him figure it out right you know if you can't physically overpower the other man you don't deserve to be the offensive coordinator no you don't even
Starting point is 01:12:57 wear a headset anymore no tj tj jates all right all right t jay yates McFar um McFarland literally said I'm Walt in the car. Screaming. No. Oh, man. Another jaw dropping of television. Hey, shout out DJ Williams, though. Getting some pub on the show.
Starting point is 01:13:18 Getting some pub here. Yeah. We got over 900 people watching the show live. We love y'all. You guys are animals. You're addicts even. And now they all know who DJ Williams is. They'll never forget.
Starting point is 01:13:29 Project a starting line up on defense. We got Rukerouk. Oh, Rannand Doris. Zach Harrison could be the other defense. defensive lineman, because if you're keeping Rahim, you're still running a three, four. If not, it could totally change. But in theory, have the pieces for a younger defensive line when those guys could still be there. Are they difference makers?
Starting point is 01:13:47 Not necessarily. Is that why the Falcons aren't great at run defense? Yes. I think that also goes into the linebacker level when you have Jalen Walker, who's sort of like a hybrid on-ball, off-ball linebacker, and then Divine Diablo has been hurt throughout this year. Yeah, that's on Oldbrook, too. This is how he likes his fronts to look, and the beauty of it is when you're winning, they get home and close games.
Starting point is 01:14:07 The problem is now this is the second year in a row of an Oberg run unit being, you know, getting a run over at times by the run game. You have James Pierce Jr. At one of the edge spots, I'd love for Braille and tries to be the second edge spot, but he's now, I think, missed. Is it the entire year,
Starting point is 01:14:27 both years in a row? I think he has. I feel like I have not seen him on the field at all besides summer. In training camp in the preseason, in each of the last two seasons. That's correct. Which is, I mean, you can't depend on a guy,
Starting point is 01:14:41 unfortunately, going into next year. Oh, it's the same knee both years, too. I wonder if they just moved Jalen Walker to Edge. Yeah, because they already give them some looks there, so you just kind of lean in. They try to draft a linebacker. AJ Terrell is at corner,
Starting point is 01:14:58 but then other than that, they don't have another outside corner. Billy Bowman potentially could play in the slot for them, if you feel good enough. about it because I think that he has some ability to do it if you're comfortable and then Xavier watching Jesse Bates that's going to be one of the best safety duos in the NFL yeah I said it Sam said brailing trice real name no givics please tell me you know what lyrics come next Connor um no two trailer park girls go around the outside oh my god I should
Starting point is 01:15:33 have gotten that that's a disgrace but it's an incredible reference it's i mean that's a 10 out of 10 yeah unbelievable um oh yeah mon said that uh billy's out within a killy's tear so he tore is achilles so he'll miss time going in this year so i guess they will will need somebody else who's in this lot i still i still really like billy bowman a lot yeah he's a he's one of those guys that he's had like he's had some really high highs this year and he's had some lows where he's gotten beat but he's got ball skills and that's been kind of a mission for this team as well to have they have a lot of guys that can take away the football yeah um Garrett in the chat football analysis said brailing trice 16 pressure game in 2020 23 with Washington was absolutely electric it was
Starting point is 01:16:18 I will point out that the reason why I wasn't the highest on brailing trice is because they very much put him in a wide alignment and they just let him run straight towards the quarterback without having to bend much so unless he was going to an odd front three four team He was not going to have that same same kind of success or anything close to it. However, he did go to a three, four team. So I actually liked this landing spot. We just have not gotten to see him, unfortunately. Team needs.
Starting point is 01:16:42 I have quarterback, wide receiver, tight end, defensive tackle, and corner. Those are the three, those are the five needs that I have for the Fountain. Yeah, this makes sense to me all the way. All right. Capspace. I don't expect this team to be super active in free agency, so this part will be somewhat quick. they have god what a what a jump scare tyler good lord cook oh man uh for those of you who are audio only listeners on the show uh our our chef
Starting point is 01:17:14 and producer put as the picture for this slide kirk cousins wearing all gold teeth they have negative 10 million in effective cap space right now which is the 23rd most in the NFL they have 39 players under contract for 2026 as it currently stands however this is very easily remedied. If they post June 1, Kirk Cousins, so you're just paying him more money, but you get more of cap saving from him, you save $35 million on the cap, boom,
Starting point is 01:17:45 all of a sudden, now you're cap compliant and have plenty more in the tank. If you cut Darnell Mooney, who doesn't have any guaranteed money left on his contract, you save $7.4 million if you pre-June 1 cut him, $11 million if it's a post-June 1 cut. Remember, guys, you get two post-June 1 designation, so you could do that for both of these guys,
Starting point is 01:18:06 and that saves about $42 million. That's without any sort of restructures or any other moves that could gain some cap space. So they should have a decent amount to be able to do some things in free agency, but I just don't think they're going to be very loud about it. I mean, are there any free agents? Well, think about the hire we just made. Halby, I think, would get there
Starting point is 01:18:27 and try to kind of give them a clean slate where I'm not looking to open up all this cap space. I'm going to try to play the compic formula a little bit and we don't have enough draft assets this year. So I really just need like a baseline start over. So no, I don't think they'd be spending money
Starting point is 01:18:47 in free agency with a new regime. Somebody in the chat was also mentioning Caden Ellis. So Cade Nellis is a pending free agent for this team. Now, he could be back to play at linebacker for them, so I should have mentioned that. David Anyamata is also a free agent. So is Leonard Floyd. Maybe they bring back Leonard Floyd
Starting point is 01:19:04 because you don't have Braille and Trice. Right, like a mercenary edge player. Tyler Algier is up for free agency. I don't think you bring him back. No, I think he'll get a chance to start somewhere. I agree. I think that he's, I mean, Texans. Like, I think Texans are interested in him.
Starting point is 01:19:24 There's like seven places where you go, Tyler, Alger can be the starter at that place next year. Kyle Pitts, who I don't think they're going to bring back, I don't think they're bringing back Arnolda Bacchetti. So, Kate Nellis, maybe you're bringing back on this team,
Starting point is 01:19:36 but, um, all right. Let's see if there's any free agents that makes sense for this team. Because I guess I didn't realize that it's going to be that much money that they're going to be able to have in free agency to do something with. Tyler Linderbaum is the ultimate one that we talk about at center, but I, he's going to leave the Ravens that they're going to figure it out there with him wide receiver
Starting point is 01:20:00 I could see them adding a wide receiver in free agency yeah especially if pennix is on track on a good timeline where you're you're trying to evaluate him in that year fairly before you you decide what you're going to do as a new regime George Pickens I don't think it's out of Dallas. I mean, they're going to, they're going to need a tight end. Romeo Dobbs. Ooh, Jalen Naylor, I don't hate either. That's a good fit.
Starting point is 01:20:34 I like Jeline Naylor. Bigger role in Atlanta. Yeah. I don't hate that. So I could be down for Jalen Naylor. And who else is wide receiver for them? Wait, why? The Ravens just gave Mark Andrews a big extension. Like literally eight minutes ago is the tweet.
Starting point is 01:21:00 Interesting timing. Yeah, because I was looking at tight ends. Wait, why would they do that? Dude, a three-year, $39.3 million extension, 26 of its guaranteed. Okay. Well, that's one tight end off the board in this exercise. Literally just happened. All right, not getting that.
Starting point is 01:21:18 I am a, I'm a Thailand-Wallis guy. interesting so trying to get like a depth ad yeah that's what i'm saying i'm so all right jelan naylor and tylin wallis is two new wide receivers that you get there i like that and then at tight end okay we got dave and joku i don't hate that that's a splash ad hey here's an interesting one for you all right is this a team that now goes after isaiah likely Oh, nice, TV in the chat. I didn't even see that, but there, there you go. Yeah, because he is a free agent, right?
Starting point is 01:22:01 And if the Ravens just pay, yeah, if the Ravens just paid Andrews all that money. Yeah. I like this move. All right, let's do it. So, all right, then the last one is a corner. Let's get some sort of cornerback before we go into the draft. right i mean take a chance on eric stokes he's played better this year i think from what i saw let's see what the market looks like he won't cost you a ton of money clearly i should peek at the
Starting point is 01:22:32 chat too they've been coming up with the same ideas as us uh corner does Connor read the chat i was i do but i did not i do not read it when Trevor and i are perusing over the cap Felipe franks low movie cost yeah correct doesn't have to move at all man yeah you'd be looking at the hey you know who i feel like has played better this year uh although maybe he doesn't fit them depending when billy bowman is back i feel like cordell flott has been better this year he has i think that's right i think that's a decent call out yeah he's definitely he's definitely had his best year in coverage gosh oh montere brown oh yeah and flots played yeah flots played outside most of the
Starting point is 01:23:20 here. Jalen Watson or Josh Williams from the Chiefs, I think are decent options here. For sure. Let's pick one of these guys that we like. Frangency corner group is actually viable. Yeah, I actually don't mind this. This is probably weird. And we didn't spend a lot at tight end and wide receiver, so you could make a splash here.
Starting point is 01:23:40 Are the Jags for sure going to bring back Monterec Brown? Let's see. They have Jordan Lewis. Monterec Brown's one of their outside starters. They traded for Greg Newsom. They have Jerry and Jones. Travis Hunter.
Starting point is 01:23:55 They have Travis Hunter. I feel like you can get... I feel like you can get Monterec Brown. I would think he walks. Another guy that plays on the outside. Yeah. I'd go with Monterec Brown. He's a guy we haven't talked about on any of these shows yet.
Starting point is 01:24:14 His best year is this year in coverage, for sure. Yeah, good time to be a free. for him decent the year before as well pretty good tackler let's go with him let's let's get him as an outside corner so we feel good about it okay so not a not a lively free agent class but a different values class some good value signings yeah we're going with jalen naylor tylin wallace um isaiah likely and then monterec brown those are the four guys that we're sort of like centering around to sort of like build around what is a young group of players as we get into the draft uh which will fire up right now
Starting point is 01:24:48 okay no first round pick obviously sorry people um second round pick third round pick though so that's obviously how we're going to do the exercise here whoa trees background it's a good background it is a good background uh round four round six round seven so yeah we don't unfortunately tyler don't have anything in the first round so there you go yeah there's a falcons um three rounds let's do it let's see what the game plan is like and they're all gone uh okay pick number 41 in the second round is where we begin here all right so i think that this pick if we're going to do two mock drafts because we've been doing two mock drafts here for uh for every team as we've done this fixture franchise exercise we're going to have the opportunity to pick i think
Starting point is 01:25:43 corners and wide receivers as a sweet spot here at 41 or or line linebacker, I think, as well. Yeah, CJ Allen sitting right there. C.J. Allen would allow you to play Jalen Walker at edge. We've gotten to see it. Oh, right. Yeah, we have. We have another Georgia linebacker. So we could go that strategy.
Starting point is 01:26:15 Is there anything jumping off the screen at you? for corner, for wide receiver, for any of these guys, maybe, maybe edge rusher instead. Because you could, you could have flexibility, right? If we like an edge rusher, then we can play Jalen Walker more as an off ball linebacker. So I think C.J. Allen is the best player we could take here. I think there's a conversation to be had about Jeremy Bernard. With the style of receiver. Jeremy, oh, damn it.
Starting point is 01:26:46 so all right hold on folks hold on folks chaos had to fix uh had to fix my camera here um classic trev germy bernard would give us Drake London Jeremy Bernard
Starting point is 01:27:04 or Jalen Naylor Tyler Wallace Isaiah likely and then be on in that mix as well I think you can I think you can work with that let's take him let's see what it looks like here with Jeremy Bernard, the wide receiver from Alabama. I feel like we don't always do as good enough of a job
Starting point is 01:27:22 sort of talking through these prospects. Jeremy Bernard, really good year this past season. Not the best athlete in the world, but somebody who, I'm not saying that he's going to be exactly like Chris Godwin, but he feels like that type of a player, just so reliable and over the middle of the field player, a backside dig guy, somebody who can win at the sideline as well. He'll give you some yards after catch,
Starting point is 01:27:41 but just a toughest nail is reliable type of receiver. So, yeah, good job. Very well done, Trevor. I'm guilty of just kind of glossing over it because we talk about these guys so often. Yeah. And we know some people are just here as Balkans fans. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:27:56 So what do we think of here in the third round? Probably looking to help the defense again. Linebacker or a corner, maybe like Witt Weeks? Yeah, what's Witt going to do now that his future father-in-law is his coach? I'll be getting the hell out of there. I would be back in my bags. Yeah, I'll go play pro ball.
Starting point is 01:28:19 Jake Galday is a very interesting choice here because he sort of gives you the same flexibility that Jalen Walker does. But Galday is more of that off ball linebacker. He plays more as a true off ball linebacker. Really good run defense grades, good coverage grades this season. And size than Middle East.
Starting point is 01:28:44 your defense, which is needed. I like that. That's a good, that's a really good lean. I think I'd be okay with either of those guys. Because Tori and York's not here, is he? Can you scroll up to see if, if Tori and York from, nah, he got picked. Ah, you got picked five picks before.
Starting point is 01:29:05 Would have loved him. He would have been great in the middle of that defense. All right, what are you thinking? Yeah, I, I think Galdet is kind of the right fit. Okay. All right, all right. We take all day here. So the first mock draft that we have, we're still rolling with Pennix next year. I guess we didn't sign a veteran quarterback when we were going through free agency. So you have to sign some sort of a
Starting point is 01:29:26 veteran in free agency. The veteran quarterbacks are actually available. It's thinner than you'd think because all these backups this year signed two-year deals. Yeah. Daniel Jones, Aaron Rogers, Russell Wilson. Marcus Marriota, obviously, if you can get him back, but you probably can't. No, that was a bad ending there. Yeah. Bad ending. Tyrod Taylor, Jimmy Garoppolo. I was going to say Tyrod and Jimmy kind of fit that. Tyrod actually is probably perfect.
Starting point is 01:29:53 Tyrod does work out pretty well for them, so I don't hate that. Trey Lance? At least Tyrod gives you a floor. Teddy Bridgewater, if you wants a chance to starve for a little bit. Yeah. So one of those guys. So I'm okay with the veteran quarterback market.
Starting point is 01:30:10 I really am. And then like you said, like we get hit of a, hard to reset if we want to next year when we actually have a first round pick. So that's what that's, this first draft, we ended up going with wide receiver and linebacker. So in this situation, Monterec Brown is, is playing on the outside with AJ Terrell. You're hoping that Billy Bowman can be a slot defender for you when he gets back. You got Golda, you got Devine Diablo in the middle, which is a good amount of speed, which I like that athleticism there.
Starting point is 01:30:37 You got James Pierce Jr. and he got Jalen Walker playing on the edges. and then he got a rotation of interior defensive line guys to feel decent about and then a pretty good wide receiver room that's changed from what we did in free agency, too. So, okay, so I like that. Let's do another, let's do another mock. Let's see what we got a 41 this time. Could go, Alan's still on the board again. Chris Bell is on the board.
Starting point is 01:31:06 Accus is here. Maybe a smidge early for Accus. I think it is. Yeah, C.J. Allen's a really good football player, man. I think him and Anthony Hill are pretty good. I do like those guys. They beef up your run defense. They really do.
Starting point is 01:31:23 I think that probably makes the most sense, unless you're going like quarterback in round two. I know. I'm kind of like, wonder, do we go C.J. Allen and then take a quarterback in round three. Oh. Would we not get Nussmeyer in round three? Oh man, Concepcion went at the top of the second round That would have been nice Awesome for that
Starting point is 01:31:43 Yeah, I know the chat really liked that idea too Ramello Height also went four, five picks earlier Man, Ramello Height and James Pierce Jr. That's kind of cut from the same cloth But like those dudes, it would be tough to stop All right, so you want to go see Jay Allen You want to go to the linebacker here? Yeah, I just the only, before we hit draft
Starting point is 01:32:03 The only reservation that I have here with this is like I know this is funny coming from the guy that when we did the mock trap before, I took Sonny Stiles to the Rams at number 10 overall, but like when you don't have a lot of premium picks and the first one that you make is an off ball linebacker, you just got to make sure you're getting the right guy, right? Like you just, you have to make sure that this player is going to be worth it for you because if you're just doing the regular draft sort of coin flip in the air, he's going to hit or he's not, you'd rather do that at a more premium position.
Starting point is 01:32:35 Are you worried about that at all? With taking Allen here? Just because the way the board fell, no. There's not a player that I love at a premium spot here, unfortunately. Wait a second. Jagger's saying take my Ava. My sources are saying he's coming out. Hold on.
Starting point is 01:32:51 Wait a second. This guy. What's going on over here? This guy, Jagger, with the golf pick. Yeah, he's in the no. All right. So you want CJ Allen? Yeah, let's do it.
Starting point is 01:33:04 Okay. Let's take CJ Allen here. Lenores ain't going to be there. I don't think Lenoris will be in the draft. I agree. That's why I don't really take him there. Dylan Everett's interesting. Oh, Skylar Bell.
Starting point is 01:33:24 Skylar Bell. Skyler Bell. Oh, Skyler Bell. Get a little bit of a technician. Yeah. We're kind of running back the same draft. I know. We flip that we flip the,
Starting point is 01:33:37 But that's, some people are really going to like C.J. Allen. Some people are really going to like Skyler Bell over Jeremy Bernard. Like it's, can, can I see edge rusher really quick, Tyler? Probably got real thin at this point. Oh, man, Kenyatta Jackson Jr. played really well against Michigan. He did. He's going to go earlier than that, than that rank. Not earlier than 73, earlier than the rank. Yeah, yeah.
Starting point is 01:34:05 Oh, man. The heartbra. Cleve Lubin. Cleve? Why did we call him that again? No idea. I've almost positive we called him the heartbreaker. Probably.
Starting point is 01:34:16 We got so many bits on this show. I don't even, I don't even track them. I just see a name, George Gumbs out there. Oh, man. That's your boy. That is my boy. Gumby. So the reason why I wanted to see Edge Rusher is because with taking CJ Allen,
Starting point is 01:34:33 would we go Edge Rusher again? and now all of a sudden you're in a spot where because Devon Diablo is entering the last year of his deal. You could move on from him if you wanted to because he's been hurt this year. You could have Jalen Walker and C.J. Allen as your linebackers and then James Pierce Jr. and an edge rusher of your choice. Right.
Starting point is 01:34:57 Kenyatta Jackson, whatever, as the outside edge. The thing that would worry me about that is Alan and Walker are much better. run defenders than they are coverage backers. So I would be worried about the coverage. Yeah, like not having balance. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:35:16 I would still take Skylar Bell here, but. J. Sean ref headbutter Barnum. He was definitely trying to show him what was happening. Yeah. And then it got memed to oblivion that he was headbutting a ref. Yeah, yeah. I agree with you. I do think that
Starting point is 01:35:31 that's probably what happened. Skylar Bell? Schuyler Bell. All right, Skylar Bell, it is. Because look, we, there you have a better edge depth than in fourth round. We talked through it. All right, there we go. We got the two drafts here for...
Starting point is 01:35:47 We've pimped the Atlanta Falcons. We have pimped the Atlanta Falcons. We got the two drafts that you guys can choose from. We're either getting Jeremy Bernard and Jake Golda or C.J. Allen or Schuyler Bell, you can put on top of that, getting a veteran quarterback, some sort of a veteran quarterback, as well as Jalen Naylor, Tyler, Tyler, Isaiah likely and who else
Starting point is 01:36:08 the other one on Terrick Brown that we got in free agency we got Clint Kubiak as the new head coach we have
Starting point is 01:36:17 Alex Hallaby as the new general manager and it's a clean slate there for the Atlanta Falcons we'll see what Pennix has to offer
Starting point is 01:36:24 the next season but if not we'll have a first round pick the next year and the 2027 quarterback class looks a lot better we'll stick around
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Starting point is 01:36:45 on Instagram, Twitter, all that good stuff. At Tampa Bay Trey, at Connor J. Rogers. That's how you can follow us. Hey, really quick, I know that some of you guys have already started to do this. Shout out to you guys for listening to the podcast so much that it's in your top live of your Spotify wrap.
Starting point is 01:37:02 We just, we're so humbled and we love seeing stuff. stuff like that. I'll try to retweet as many as I can from the NFLSE account from the Instagram and everything. So if you tag us, we would love to share it just because we love sharing that stuff with the addicts. But shout out to everybody who listened to this show this year. We truly appreciate you guys. We say this every single show, but it's the community aspect of it that makes this so much fun, that gives us so much energy to do this show, that makes it so much fun for us to prepare for and get to talk with you guys about. So we really appreciate it. Like I said, we will read some of the super chats here in the after show that we'll do here in a second before we sign off
Starting point is 01:37:40 but connor anything else before we get out of here i echo that it's an awesome day when spotify rap comes out because the mentions are just people saying i can't you know i i watch listen to you guys or watch you guys for all of this you're in my top five and it's really cool man it means a lot to us that's super special to be mentioned in any of those so thank you to all the addicts out there it's hilarious thing i'm addicted to sex in my mentions 40 different times today. You were supposed to save that part for the after show, Connor? Whoops.
Starting point is 01:38:09 Yeah, not me. Don't clip me out, internet. All right, I'm done. Appreciate it. Love you guys. Stick around to hear us read the rest of the super chats that we had on the show. But if you're not going to do that for Tyler Cook, our chef, producing the show.
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