NFL Stock Exchange: An NFL Draft Podcast - Fix Your Franchise: Las Vegas Raiders (w/ 3 Round Mock Draft)

Episode Date: November 20, 2025

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Welcome to the opening bell of the NFL stock exchange podcast. Connor, I'd never seen that clip before. I'd never seen the Steven-Sate-Smith. Free sex for life. But it's the way he said it. It's the way he said it in this. even a Smith cadence. He's become a multi-millionaire off of the way he says things.

Like at some way, you just got to respect. He's a mean machine. Terry and Lannister's career goals right there. That would have been, that would have been what he's trying to be. Hello. Hello, everybody. Welcome back to another edition of Fix Your Franchise here on the NFL Stock Exchange podcast or as the addicts know it as a pimp your franchise.

Very excited for this one because, boy, do we have a lot of work. to do. This was, this was an organization that I'm going to be honest, Connor. I was excited about coming into a year. Did they have everything? No, but I thought it'd be a little bit more on the right direction. We figured it out. I actually liked the Pete Carroll higher, but there's so much that we've got to get into about the disconnect. It feels like between what he wants versus what John Spitech, their general manager wants, versus is the roster able to win in the short term, building it for the long term. It's just all of that disconnect has led us to this point. So we got a lot of work to do today, buddy.

How are you feeling? I'm good. Yeah, this is absolutely quite the process, this one. And I agree. I thought the Pete Carroll hire would get them back to respectability. And then maybe he can hand this off to somebody in a couple years or so, even two years or so. And it does feel like they've almost gone even more backwards here. There's just not a clear plan for this roster.

I hate the structure of the offense. I think the defense just doesn't have talent outside of Max Crosby pretty much. So we're going to get into all of it today. But it's definitely been one of the more disappointing seasons. And I'm not saying they were expecting to be a playoff team. But I thought they'd be a middle of the pack team. I thought they'd win six games maybe this year. And it just and how it looks is really the problem right now.

No, 100%. Because, you know, if you were to say that the Raiders were going to be third or fourth in the division, I think that everybody would be like, yeah, okay, like probably. You've got the chargers that are ascending, the Broncos that were getting ready, and then, of course, the Chiefs of the Chiefs. So I don't think anybody would have batted an eye if they would have been last in the division, but certainly thought it'd be a lot more competitive than what they were or what they have been to this point. So to everybody who might be new here, as we know that we get a lot of new fans who are watching these

Fix Your Franchise episodes, what we will do here is we'll take a look at everything. We'll look at the last couple of years, sort of how we got here, the big moves to how this 2025 season came to be with the front office, the coaching staff, the roster, all that good stuff. We'll look at draft history, what went well, what didn't. We'll look at the current roster, identify some core players, look at some guys who might be on their way out. We'll sort of get a projected starting lineup as well. We'll look at free agency, how much money they have to spend,

some free agent targets, and then we'll end things off with a three-round Raiders-specific mock draft. And then all the way at the end, we'll bring it all together, and we'll tell you how we fixed this franchise here. Got some super chats here to start the show, because we love to do that for the people that are in the chat early because we open up the show about 10 minutes before we actually go live. Connor, $5 super chat right off the bat said not to derail the pimp your franchise, but which quarterbacks in this draft would best fit McVeigh, someone they need to take with the Falcons pick maybe or later.

Shoot, Connor, if Ty Simpson's in this class and they have the opportunity to pick him, I love what I've seen from Ty Simpson so far. Look, it's not perfect for him. The accuracy is a little bit of an issue. he's not been great under pressure, especially as of late. But dude, first year starting from him, he already understands the layered concepts over the middle. He knows how to set protections. He knows how to get through progressions in his reads. Man, love what I have seen from a football IQ standpoint from Ty Simpson early.

So if they had the chance to draft him, I think he would be a great predecessor. And I'll say this, say Ty Simpson declares but goes too early and Mendoza goes too early. Maybe Dante Moore ends up declaring. He tries to strike while the iron's hot and a thin quarterback class is the perfect place for him to sit and develop

behind Matthew Stafford for a year or whatever it's going to be. The way more can play out of structure is accuracy and touch in structure. He would be somebody, I think, with time, can fit McVeigh really, really well. How about this from Jase Jager? 499 Super Chat. Thank you.

2026 offensive line reinforcement. Keegan Trost, right tackle, Mizzou, 64, 316, right tackle, left tackle, experience. He's got the run block grade in there. He's got the past block grade in there. He's got the Black Friday 40% off hashtag. There we go baby. You love to see it. Well done, Jase. Hey, if people want to see those numbers for yourself, 40% off. PFF plus subscription right now. Folks, that's $6 a month if you do the math. If you get it 40% off, it's $6 a month. So Black Friday, that's a promo code. Go get it. Make sure you can run all the

mock draft simulator things that you want there. This $10 super chat from Ethan. The Raiders need to sign the female zookeeper from Madagascar 3. Elite short area. a quickness and ball carrier vision, then trade gentie to the Jets for a one. Jets will accept this because they have a poverty franchise. Whoa! All right. Second part of the super chat. We didn't need it. Connor, you're muted. Connor, you're muted. You're muted. You're muted. I'm muted. You were muted. Am I back? You're back now. I did not mute myself. What kind of shenanigans are going on here?

Maybe it was Ethan. Maybe, yeah, well, because I got something to say to you If you're a fan of about 28 of the NFL franchises, you can call the Jets poverty. You can. You like the Rams. You like the Seahawks, the Colts, the Patriots. You do not. You do not. This is like being a homeless man on the sidewalk and walking by another homeless person

and going, broke ass. You don't get to do that. You do not get to do that. And God, man. Yeah, I wouldn't love that trade right now for the Jets. I bet you wouldn't. By the way, I haven't seen Madagascar 3. I have not either.

Haven't either. You can't just make references to forget sequels, a trilogy. Three quals. How many people have seen the trilogy? I actually would like to know. Maybe I'm wrong. Maybe I'm wrong. Fired off of the chat afterwards.

Comments. Have you seen Madagascar 3? Need to know. Okay, we got two more super chats and then we'll get underway here. with the Raiders fiction franchise. One of them is topical. The other ones from Peter, of course, we have to read

because he owns the podcast. Daniel Sauter said, guys, Al Davis called me, said if you're not drafting Lenora, Sellers, Caden Proctor, and Nick Harbor in the mock draft, you're not doing it the Raiders way. To be honest with you, Daniel,

could be three starters. All jokes aside, could honestly be three starters for this team. And then, of course... In 2008. I mean, you know, I didn't say, year it was going to be they could all be starters for the raiders and then of course peter who pays all

of our bills 169 super chat my god dude he's to go he really is he said first no aden o'connell slander will be tolerated i agree as somebody who someone who capped for aden o'connell as as much as anybody not related to him could have possibly done so before the draft i agree said that's my guy fun fact i went to high school with both him and jillan brunson wow damn it's crazy that both of those guys were still not the most athletic person at their high school and that was obviously Peter there. Peter. He just chose to log on all day and send us super chat instead of being a professional athlete. It was out of the kindness of his heart that he decided to not play quarterback for the football team in high school so that Aiden O'Connell could you know look good and get

the scholarships. He's like, you know what, I'm just going to, I'm going to let Aiden have this one. I know I would start every single game and he would be my backup. Yeah, he's stepping aside, which we love. second love you too and the addicts so much appreciate you peter appreciate the addicts let's get into it let's get into this fixture franchise here for the los vegas raiders let's go back to 2021 first and look at their record who is their head coach at the time 2021 that was the final year that john gruden started that year as the head coach and then rich busaccia took over they finished 10 and 7 that season and actually made the playoffs this is when derrick car was still their quarterback They ended up losing in the wild card round that year.

2021, the following year, they were just 6 and 11. I think Derek Carr was 6 and 9, if I remember correctly in the last two games of the seasoners when he got benched for Jared Sidham. He stepped away from the team. They knew that his time there was done. That was the first year with Josh McDaniels as their head coach. Then they go into 2023. McDaniels gets fired.

Antonio Pierce gets elevated to head coach. They actually finish 8 and 9. It looked like, wow, okay, this team's fighting. This team's going in the right direction. here. They sign Antonio Pierce to be their full-time head coach. That lasts one season. They go four and 13.

And now they have Pete Carroll sitting here at 2 and 8. Connor, I think that we have to sort of have this conversation as we talk about the head coaching situation as a whole. But I wanted to paint this picture for the Raiders. Because at this point, I don't know if you can

give Pete Carroll another year. Yeah. I love Pete Carroll the coach. He has been a cornerstone of the game of football, whether it's been in college or the NFL over the last 20 years. But right now with him, what is he, 75? He just turned 74 in September. He just turned 74. You're now in control of a roster that was 2 and 8. You probably were only going to be the head coach for what, two to three years anyways? Yeah. I mean, Pete's got that. If you're fully turn on the page man you got to think about moving on as hard as that might be with all of the

coaching turnover they've had over the last five years i know and pith's got that live forever mentality like i'm sure he didn't take this shop thinking it but i think everybody else was kind of looking around and going okay this was a a good hire once again to develop some stability and an infrastructure and change things and then eventually set somebody up to take over but Pete Carroll, who you nailed it, Trevor, an incredible football life he's had and he's currently having his energy at his age is that you would think the guy is not even 60.

It's unbelievable. But they just feel like a rudderless ship right now because it's one thing to have a roster that is not even close to where it needs to be and you don't have an answer at quarterback. But Pete Carroll built out this staff. And Chip Kelly's been awful this year. There's no other way.

There's no other way. And Chip Kelly is one of the most fascinating coaches of the last two decades because he has these weird blips of great success. It feels like when all the ingredients are there and he's been one of the innovators of football over the last two decades at certain times. But he just he just doesn't have it at the NFL level to call plays right now in terms of they can't establish the run. They took a running back in the top 10. You would think they would do that. Their flow of run pass is brutal. watch. If you just watch, if you only watch the Cowboys game this year, you could see that.

The Brock Bowers injury this year made things even worse because then felt, felt like he was trying to play through a lower body injury that just totally hampered him. It made him 60% of Brock Bowers. And 60% of Brock Bowers is not a game changing presence. So yeah, the constant changing of coaches, it feels like people would be critical of them for that. But I think it's fair to say they just haven't had the right one. Yeah. They didn't have the right one. Josh McDaniels is an amazing offensive coordinator, but when he gets shots to be a head coach,

it hasn't worked out. But then, you know what they say, Trevor, never hire the, you know, the interim coach. And they went that route and the locker room is behind Antonio Pierce. Well, why did they do it? Because they didn't want to change again.

Right. It's Gruden, Bessaccia, Josh McDaniels. They didn't, they didn't want to change again, you know? Right. they didn't want to change, but they aren't good enough in those forms to retain those guys eventually. And now they're going to run into that same issue again because it's just hard to imagine the plan that Pete Carroll turns this thing around so quickly next year.

This feels like a team that just needs to embrace the full long-term rebuild. And that's going to be a large conversation of that. And if you are embracing as ownership and the front office, because I don't think the front office necessarily needs to be fired, although I'm open to that conversation for anybody that has opinions. I think they need to actually have a shot. Right. I'm not. I'm not. Okay. So we're on the same plane there. Yeah, I have I have a little bit of of Bucks bias because that's where John Spitech, their general manager, came from. But he came under the Jason Light Tree and he's been with the Buccaneers since 2016. And since 2016, I mean, the Bucks have had some of the best success in the

draft and with team building of anybody in the NFL. I know people are going to be like, oh, they got Tom Brady. Like, oh, how hard could it be? But again, you got to go back to there's a reason why Tom Brady chose the Buccaneers. And it's because that roster was a quarterback away. And that's why he ended up choosing Tampa Bay. Obviously, the coaching staff and everything, those relationships helped. But John Spitech was Jason Light's right-hand man for the last four years. I think he knows how to build a team. And I think this is actually where the problem

sort of arises here and we'll get into we don't have to see all the draft history stuff yet but when you look at this team versus who they drafted Connor

they had an 11 player draft class this past class in 2025 that was the first with Pete Carroll and John Spiteck 10 of them are still on the active roster of practice squad. The only one who's on the practice squad is Cam Miller, who is a six-round pick for them, quarterback.

And the only one who's not is Tommy Milat, who is the quarterback-slash-wide-receiver athlete who they cut, and that's the only one of them they cut. So they kept everybody else. But here's the interesting part about this. This team is two and eight, all right? They have an 11-player draft class. 10 of them are still there.

Of those 10 players, Ashton Genti is the only one who is playing more than 50% of his side of the ball snaps right now. Deontay Thornton is the only additional one who's played more than 35% of the snaps. You got Jack Bech who's playing less than 30% of the snaps. You've got Darian Porter who's playing less than 35% of the team snaps. Between Caleb Rogers and Charles Grant, your two third round offensive linemen, they've played a count them, one snap one so to me this speaks to a massive disconnect with the players that john spy tech drafted versus the players that p carroll wants to play now not every rookie is is ready to play right away i totally understand that but connor we watched the jack bash tape last year we watched jack

best when he was at the Senior Bowl. This team needs wide receivers. They traded away Jacobi Myers. They've had, Brock Bowers has been hurt throughout this season. Yeah, but what did they go and do? That's just aligned with everything you just said. What? They went out and signed

Tyler Lockett when he was cut. Well, but and he plays all the time. And that's exactly what I'm saying. Pete Carroll got in here and in my opinion, his vision for this roster was not what John Spytex was.

And I think in a vacuum, I would want to keep Pete Carroll for another season. But the problem is that the way that he has dealt with the roster this year amidst all of its struggles makes me feel like him and John SpyTech are not on the same page at all with the type of players that they want to bring in to build this team. And if that's the case, I'm picking John SpyTech over Pete Carroll. yeah i i don't think the combo is even a choice i think it's ultimately do you fire them both

or do you just fire pete and i think the answer is you just move on from pete because i'm with you you trevor spy tech comes from an organization that knows how to not only compile draft capital and and cherish it but utilize it right across every single round and it feels like there was just kind of they kind of wanted it both ways the raiders they wanted a guy that can remake this entire roster over time but they also wanted a coach that can give them you know that shot in the arm a little bit like kind of shock them back to being a middle of the pack team rather than being a basement dweller right and it's so hard to mesh those two things I saw somebody in the chat just say like are they tanking and it's like no they are not tanking

Pete Carroll. Unironically. Pete Carroll. Right. Pete Carroll. I know what a tank looks like. The unironic tank. Yes.

Oops. I think that it's just a scenario where they did what they could moves-wise. Like trading for and paying Gino. That was rather than, hey, let's be real. This team could. And this is a hindsight thing. I wasn't telling them to do it. I'm just saying they could have taken Jackson Dart or Tyler Shuck or Shedor Sanders

who clearly wanted to go there. I'm not saying that's the right move. I'm just saying every move they made, you took a run. You know what teams take running backs in the first round? Teams that think they're closer usually than they are. Yeah. Like even when the Chargers took Hampton, we were like, well, the Chargers are pretty good. He is a dynamic weapon for their offense.

They're a team that can probably afford this. We'll see. But when the, and I overlooked this at the time. I was like, Gentie is just going to be a one-man offense and no work. But like the Raiders really couldn't afford that pick. It's why actually I think I had them taking Membu. I was like, they're going to just foundation this thing. You need a right tackle.

Take Membu and then just kind of keep it rolling. And they tricked the hell out of me. I know you knew they were taking Gentie. You nailed it. It's just, and that looks like, it's tough to say, I really like Gash and Genti, and he's going to be way better than what he's shown. But there's no way you could watch football this year and not just call it a flat out mistake, taking him over arm on Membu.

Well, I think the other talking point here is, look, and I know people want us to bring this up and talk about it because it's Pete Carroll's son, Brandon Carroll, who is the offensive line coach now for this team. And I think the big deal here is especially going into that debate of taking Membue versus taking Gentie. I was fine with them taking Gentile, honestly, because like the offensive. offensive line was okay last year. But now, Tyler, if you want to throw back up some of the offensive grades that they had, look at the pass blocking grade, they're 25th in the NFL,

run blocking grade, they're 26th in the NFL. You look at EPA per pass, EPA per rush, they're 28th, they're 31st, like, they've gotten worse. If you told me that this offensive line, now Colton Miller's been hurt, that's a big deal. That's a huge loss. But if you told me that the Raiders offensive line was at a baseline going to be what they were last year, maybe a little bit better, I think the gentie pit could have worked out. The problem is there worse. The problem is, is Pete Carroll and that offensive staff got in there and they're like, yeah, we're moving Jordan Meredith to center and we're moving Jackson out to guard. You're like, wait, what? And now like, Dylan Parrott, they signed Alex Kappa. He has been great. Dylan Parham's

been okay. DJ Glaze has regressed a little bit. And then obviously you don't have Colt Miller out there either. So to me, that's the big problem. And that's again, an indict. on the coaching staff is the players got worse. I looked at this roster going into last year, and I love the addition of Pete Carroll. And to be honest with you, I really love the addition of Chip Kelly as well. I thought that was a great hire. He was coming off being the offensive coordinator for Ohio State. I thought it was going to work.

They were assembling a coaching staff with a lot of just football and NFL experience. I thought that was going to make the guys on the roster better. And through John SpyTech, they were going to be able to build towards the future. Very wonderful thing to say in theory. clearly it did not work because their vision for what this roster was has not worked and in a lot of ways

this team has gotten worse so that's sort of why I am at the point where I love Pete I think players love playing for Pete he's got a ton of energy despite him be one of the oldest coaches in the NFL but

you probably have to fire Chip Kelly the Raiders are on their third offensive line coach in three years now with Brendan Carroll. And Patrick Graham has somehow, their defense coordinator has somehow survived three regimes? Because he's been their defense coordinator since 2022. So he was the defense coordinator under Josh McDaniels.

He got jumped for the interim head coach spot because remember, Antonio Pierce was the linebacker coach. He was the D.C. And they elevated Antonio Pierce to that head coaching spot. So he's retained under Antonio Pierce. And now he's retained under. Pete Carroll again. Well, he comes with the place. When you walk in the Raiders facility, they go, he does. Buy one, get one deal. Buy one. That's Coach Graham. He's always here.

He is. But you know what I'm saying? Like the defense is horrendous this year. So you basically have to fire both coordinators this year and you're starting over with a head coach who's so, who's in his older age, he wouldn't get to be around that much longer. So here's another problem. I'm just like, we got to move on here. And if you, right, and if you actually granted him the power to do that, but you fire both coordinators, one of the most glaring issues with this team is the regression of the offensive line and the step backward they've taken. Yes, which the coach is his son, so he's not doing that.

So this is just wipe out the coaching staff. I don't take pride in saying that, you know, I have friends in the league that are, that are NFL coaches that have been fired and there is nothing worse than, you know, people having to uproot their. Being a coach, a coaching's life, coach's life is very, very hard because you get fired a lot, you move a lot. It's, but it's the reality for this team.

Like there's just no, it's the, the move they have to make right now, if they want to start the beginning of a new era that is going to take some time. But man, just dragging this rudderless ship along of trying to scratch to be the seven or eight win team is pointless. It's pointless.

Which brings, like when do you want to have the max? Crosby conversation because that's been in the chat a lot. I think it's a huge talking point of this entire thing. Let's let's because I do want to talk about potential head coach of candidates. And then when we get to the, when we get to the roster building part of it, we will have the full on Max Crosby conversation. I see a lot of people in the chat. They're saying, hey, like let you just let spy tech clean house, get a new head coach.

Just start. Because and to be honest with you guys, I agree with you. I think that's the way they need to operate. for as much as I, like I said, I've loved Pete over the years. You are now in a spot where I think you took a risk this offseason with trading for Gino Smith instead of wanting any quarterback that wasn't named Cam Ward, which I can understand. Yeah.

You sort of took a chance and you were like, hey, maybe we could be a little bit sneaky this year. And let's see if we can, we'll build off of it. If not, we maybe are hitting the reset button. But the fact of the matter is, Broncos are sitting here at eight and two. they're probably going to win the division. They're feeling pretty good. That's a damn good football team.

The Kansas City Chiefs are still the Kansas City Chiefs. And the Los Angeles Chargers are a damn good football team and one of the most injured football teams in the league. You are clearly, without question, the fourth best team in your division. And you are going the wrong way while the Broncos and the Chargers are going up and the Chiefs still have Andy Reid and Patrick Mahomes.

You have to understand where your winning windows are. And for the Raiders, it's not going to be. 2026. And I think, and I think that they should clean house because of that. It's not. This division, you know, tip your cap to the nine and two Broncos who. Nine to two. Yeah, somebody corrected me in the chat. Matt and Matt's like, hey, nine to two. Yeah, don't forget that. I can't take it. I can't take the chase.

It wasn't easy. We're not forgetting that ninth win. And even the chargers who have been a high variance team this year, but the chargers are highly competitive and have done a lot of really good things. The Raiders need, yes, a reality check of we are so far away from the other three teams in this division. And I hate doing this, but this is kind of apt here. There's a comparison here for me with the Jets, where the Jets halfway through this season looked around and we're like, the Patriots have turned it around. We're not close to them.

We're obviously not close to Buffalo. Miami's a weird team. The AFC East is not as strong as this division. But the Jets made the hard decision of, by the time we're good again, Quinn and Williams is going to be 30, right? The sauce straight is a different combo. But Quinn and Williams, who's the same age as Max Crosby, or turns the same age as Max Crosby in a month, I think.

So he's even younger than him. Like, you need to figure out your windows and just be like, we got to start carving out a pathway that we're going to get a shot at a franchise quarterback. We need to reshape this roster a certain way. we got to clear out cap space so we can get free agents that fit our scheme. And for the Raiders right now, yeah, they need to kind of face that reality here. And I think with them, the differences, though, it does start with a coaching staff that works with SpyTech to identify the kind of players they need on the roster and to go from there. But asset management and asset allocation is going to be massive for this team over the next year.

Matt said in the chat. Charger would be 10 and 1 if their tackles were healthy. I'm not biased. I swear. Sean is saying the Raiders are three years away from being three years away. They're not three years away from three years away. It changes quick in the NFL. But I do think like Connor just said, you got to take a good hard look at it.

Brent's saying, I don't think Mark Davis has the money to clean house. That I can't speak to. Then you can't own an NFL team. Yeah, I don't know. I can't speak to that. I'm not sure. But it's fair, Brent. Like this is a thing that I see come up all the time.

This came up for multiple coaches over the with them the last couple of years. By the way, hilarious comment here from Callum Rogers. my old co-worker at Bleacher Report, by the way. If this actually fixes the Raiders, Connor and I will finally be even after he briefly hijacked my BR email account when he got hired, love the pod.

Because we were both C. Rogers at Bleacher Report. You got his ass. Yeah, I felt bad. I felt so bad for Callum. He would have to forward the emails like every week. And this is how nice of a person he is. He'd be like, hey, this is obviously for you. And it would be like an email for me,

that he would get sent all the time. So he was probably, nobody was probably happening with him. Were you doing draft takes at the time? Because he was probably getting a lot of hate mail too. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Hey, idiot. I hate this mock draft and he's like,

I'm not even writing it. Can you imagine? Not even being the author of a mock draft and getting crap for it. Dude, I mute the tweets of my own mock drafts. Yeah, you have to. And I'm the one writing them. As soon as it goes live, mute this conversation. Go on with the day.

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i'm not hungry yet all right sorry sorry sorry sorry all right speaking to hammering let's get through some of these super chats here before we get into the draft history i feel bad ethan sent us a super chat and all i did was roast them so i want to apologize off the top we're both poverty though, Ethan. I was going to say, you went after, he went after your team, you went after his team. Then you guys, look, you bro hug afterwards. Yeah, Madagascar 3 in the chat was pretty popular. I guess I know what I'm watching this weekend.

Was it? Yeah, but I did see somebody that was like sawed in theater's awful film. Anyway, Zachy 641. Thank you, Zach. I know you're a frequent visitor here. No Drake made joke this week. Only a shout out to the true MVP of the NFL. See, producer, seducer, Tyler, the chef.

Cook. Shout out to Tyler Cook. Producer seducer. No comment. The official seducer of the show, Tyler the Chef Cook. By the way, did you see the pro football reference officially put Drake May's nickname? As Drake May. As Drake May. We did it.

I'm going to count that as a victory for the addicts. Remember how it all, we were saying, can we come up with a nickname that spreads like wildfire after the whole Cowboy O'Tani story? That's true. We were trying to do it with Sawyer Robertson, which we still will. Doc? Oh, Doc Robinson? Yeah, yeah, yeah. But Drake, Drake, May.

May. It is a good one. It's great. Archie, $2, Super Chat. Watching and work, Boss doesn't know. Wish me luck. Hopefully you're still around. Archie, appreciate you. Yeah.

$2 from Dalton as well. Please pimp Pittsburgh. We're stuck in the Master Lock. You know, I feel like any time your floor is 500. Maybe we do need to figure out a good way to just, like, rapid fire the Pimp threshold. You know, really, there has to be a pimp threshold. What is the pimp threshold?

We do need to. What is the threshold to be Pimp? Carson, thank you for the super chat. Just bought three Costco boxes of uncrustables. Wow. Once little fella. Wow. Oh, my God.

I've been owned online. Yeah, I've never bought, I've never bought three Costco boxes of the uncrustable because they are big. They think of like a shelf of the basement freezer. I only usually have one, maybe one after half has been three. you're in a different league partner i i surrender i heard that partner just yeah hit him with a partner there that's not a you know this it's subtle one yeah yeah yeah just very you didn't let it pass mike a ten dollar super chat uh i'm a prince i'm a princeton in sports Elon class i'm I think student yeah he's not he's not like I am Princeton I kind of sounds like I don't know

maybe him and Andre Yoshivoss got a fight about it yeah I like the lone prince you are Princeton, Micah. Go on. What football trend phenomenon should I examine? Example, does X have an effect on why? You know what I would actually say right off the top of my head? There's a lot more teams running not just nickel personnel, but dime personnel. And I would love to see the run defense rates for teams that are trying to continue to get the Seahawks are, it feels like on the forefront and they're the top of this.

But I feel like a lunatic. A lot of teams are going to try to follow. suit. And you're going to see a lot of teams try to do this without a Kyle Hamilton, without a Nikki Menwari. And I'm very curious to see if this trend continues, even if you don't have that freak athlete at safety, or if we're just going to keep prioritizing this guys, maybe in the draft. Well, I have one, Micah. If you are, I would actually like somebody to do a study, and I'm sure somebody that covers the Lions is already working on this, to do a study of when the analytics actually say go for it and when Dan Campbell actually is following that

versus Dan Campbell. Dan Campbell being like, I'm Dan Campbell. I am the analytics chart. Because I don't think it's, the analytics said go for it nine times in a row. Yeah, right. Right, that's true. That is true.

That's a good one as well. Hoffie, $2 super chat. Perfect. I'm in here in time to see that first round tight end. We don't forget that, Trevor. We do not forget that. You don't need to. Who is it again?

You had gone to that? Was it Colson Loveland or Tyler Warren? No, it's Tyler Warren. Hey. No, no, no, no. Puffy, you look me in the eye right now. You look me in the eye. You got owned.

And tell me that Tyler Warren on this team right now is not better. Well, that's a different combo. Tell me, how's it a different combo? I mocked Tyler Warren to this team. I feel like Michael Mayer's been good this year. And I was ridiculed. No, he has been good this year. I was ridiculed, persecuted for it even.

Yeah, you. And I was right. You guys are booing me. I was right. Lean into it. Cartracer 56. Thank you for the super chat. At what point does the media and draft analysts need to start talking about Emmett Johnson at Nebraska?

Leads the nation in rushing and it feels like no one is talking about him. Cartracer, we have talked about Emmett Johnson on college countdown the last time we had Nebraska. So we had USC at Nebraska. We talked about Emmett Johnson a lot, but I love the call out because you're talking. about him, I think, in a draft capacity. He deserves more love. He's been phenomenal. And I think people will catch you up after the season.

Hurricane 2-dollar Super Chat said, is Caden Proctor just football, Trevor Zegris. Zerris. Zeris? That's an amazing. I don't know who that is. So Zegris is now on the flyers. He was on the ducks for a while.

Okay. He, I think he's one of those guys. Is he 360 pounds on skates? That's very skinny. Very skinny. You're losing me here. You're losing me with a Caden Proctor cop. He's actually from New York.

But Zegris is one of those guys that for so long, the perception of him was totally different than what he actually is. The perception of him was that he was an NHL superstar. But that's really because he would just score highlight real goals, like the lacrosse goal and these like crazy passes and deflections. But it didn't translate to consistent, sustainable winning hockey. And I think the perception of Caden Proctor is that he is like Jonathan Ogden in prospect form. But anybody that watches tape of Caden Proctor.

And also there's the fact that he gets the cool kind of trick plays as well to even compare him more to Trevor Zegris. So that's a really good call, Hurricane. $10 from Toloco Badger. Every time I think that this year, the Raiders won't be on a fixture franchise, then I'm inevitable to be disappointed. Well, welcome back. We appreciate you still tuning in. Colby, $2 super chat, should Grayson Halton, defensive lineman from Oklahoma, be getting more hype.

I do like Grayson Holden. I think he's a little limited. I think he's probably a rotational defensive lineman at best in the NFL. He's a little undersized. He's more of a splash play guy. So to what you're talking about, Colby, you've probably seen him get some quick tackles for loss,

some quick pressures into the backfield. But in general, when it comes to play-by-play run defense and just overall ability on the defensive line, he's a little bit undersized and a tweener in that regard. So I think he's just more of a rotational guy as a whole. but I could see the flash plays from a Daniel $5. The current Raiders coaches could make the 2010 Cowboys O line look like high schoolers.

Wow. That was a damn good offensive line. Jack Mack, thank you for the super chat. Tyler, Tyler Cook's last name. All right, let's. That one got me. Keep going. Moof.

Thank you for the super chat. Have either of you guys commented on Jordan Tyson's injury history. Shout out to the Pisspore Raiders for passing on Memboo for Genti. you ninkum poops. Ninkapoops, underrated, underrated insult. Really good insult. Yeah. So I think we talked a lot about Tyson's injuries on summer scouting.

Yeah. We haven't this year, but. Well, he's missed some time again. It is going to be a very, very big thing. It's a type of thing where Tyson's probably a top 10 talent that if teams have enough concern medically, you could be looking at him falling to the middle or the end of the first round. Yeah.

What a steal teams would be getting. But availability, man. No, for sure. for sure. And availability is going to be a theme of sort of what we're talking about and how we build the Raiders moving forward. We'll stop it here with Peter as we always do. He said, I did play high school football, L.O.L. One of state

championship also tore my ACL. I'm a multi-sport athlete. I know you love those. You know who else loves those? Pete Carroll. Topical, baby. Topical. He said he gave up on athletics, became a degenerant gambler, and a sex addict. Imagine reading that's like somebody that does not watch this show. Oh, you mean

the 900 people that are currently watching don't get that the OG fans of this show call themselves sex addicts because NFLSE get it folks. Just making sure that I explain that appropriately to everybody. Why did you give up athletics? Well, I became a degener, gambler, and a sex addict. Sounds awesome, brother. Let's look at the draftics. There's some good nights.

There's definitely some good nights in there. Let's take a look at the draft history here. We already kind of talked about 2025. I said 10 of those guys are the 11 players that they draft. that's still on the roster. They're just not playing. So I don't know if they were worth it or not. I'm so surprised that Jack Besh has not been more involved in this offense.

Deontay Thornton, they tried to get him involved right away as their verbal threat. But he was, he was, he is not the route runner they need to need him to be. I don't think Jack Bess quite is either. But I still felt as though with Jacoby Myers out and Brock Bauer's hurt, he would have got more action than he has. Darym Porter will come along as an outside corner. You need those two offensive linemen to really step up, though. Caleb Rogers, Charles Grant, somebody has got to be a future starter at one of those positions.

In 2024, it took Brock Bowers in the first round. Hell of a pick. Jackson Powers Johnson, the second round. Love that one. Now, he's been hurt, okay? Like, he's had injuries over the last couple of years. You mentioned availability, not ideal for him. He's also playing guard. Why is he playing guard? They don't like him at center for some reason we don't see. Put him at center. DJ Glaze in the third round. um Glaze is still

their starting offensive tackle and he's fine like I think he could be serviceable for you but that was kind of

the impact that they had from that draft in 2024 2023 as you guys can see our draft grades as well

at the bottom I haven't been reading those off but this 2023 draft class I gave it a C plus because I was way lower on

Tyree Wilson than it felt like you were you were right on about that one just I get I get it, man.

The physical traits are there, but you got to play translatable football. And I just did not feel like I really saw that at all with him when he was at Texas Tech. Michael Mayer, a good player. Now, obviously, tight end, too. He is a good, like, that is one little positive on this show today. Michael Mayer is becoming who we thought he would be. Yeah. I think he's a good player.

I think he's a good player. Trey Tucker has his moments. Yep. I think he has his moments. Jacorian Bennett was, where is Jacorian Bennett now? Didn't they trade him? Very random trade. Yeah, but I thought he was like, he was very up and out.

But I felt like he was okay. Well, yeah, I thought it was surprising when they traded him. Yeah. This summer they traded him for Thomas Booker. But he has been out all year, or most of the year with a pectoral injury, but he's been moved back to the active roster as of a week ago. Aiden O'Connell in the fourth round, of course. in 2022

Dylan Parham who I think is a serviceable offensive guard in the NFL he's a free agent we'll get the free agents in a second Zemir White fourth fourth round

like okay it's not ideal that they weren't picking in the first two rounds there but you know the Byron Young mistake what do you mean

the Byron Young mistake oh picking picking the wrong one the internet rumor that they took the wrong Byron Young which they obviously did not I mean they did

but hold on what do you mean they did they did take the wrong Byron Young. But they knew who they were taking. You don't know that? Hold on.

Was Byron Young? Yes, they did. Was Byron Young picked after him? I think so. And he is awesome for the Rams. The other Byron Young. Yeah. The Ed Truscher.

He was picked seven spots later. After him. Yeah. And he's a stud. I also had, I also had Byron Young as a top 50 player in that cost. I don't remember where I had him, but I feel like we were higher on him than where he went.

I agree. we talked about him all the time yeah uh and he the right the rott the byron young i was just la me at the comment that said don't forget the byron young mistake um uh am on in the chat saying tyree's not a bus stop it i think tyree's been better here at the back half of his rookie contract but yeah i think he is listen if he's not he's not worth the seventh overall pick no he's not that's the problem again like i i you wouldn't don't the the bust word is pause is is just thrown around there like way too much i don't like using it to be honest with you but i was not super high on tyree he has not been super productive

for them if he was he would be unquestioned the guy who is opposite max crosby and you feel great about and it's just he's not do you think when the raiders go to play one of the two teams in los angeles that the byron youngs get dinner together i don't know Now I hope so. They both put down the credit card, you know, because they're like, oh, no, no, no, let's split it. Yeah, sure, sure. And they're just like, the way she's just like, oh, excuse me, Byron Young.

They're like, just like a sitcom. I remember at the Senior Bowl that year, I forget, I feel bad, I forget who, but the defensive line coach or trainer for the draft that had both of them. So I asked them, I said, what do you call them? and he said I just call one of them Byron and I call the other one B2 Wait which one's B2 There's like a name depth chart

You know how Dionne Sanders says he has a depth chart For his favorite kid For coaches it's which one's your favorite I thought that was great though I was like that makes sense As long as he's not insulted by being B2 2021 class is the last one that we're looking at here Just because there's only two players left on this one

Well actually only one player because Alex Otherwood, obviously not on the Raiders anymore. Trayvon Mary, they didn't resign. Now he's in Carolina. Who's a rock solid player? He's awesome. No, no, no. There are two specific players that they let walk that they regret heavily.

He's one of them. Robert Spillane's the other one. Malcolm Coons, who is still on the roster, but he tore his ACL. He came back on a one-year deal. He just hasn't been the same player, unfortunately. Divine Diablo is not there anymore either. Nate Hobbs isn't there. He's now in Green Day.

I mean, what a nightmare. you got yeah no no 100% you got two good players in this draft you let one walk in free agency and the other is it has medically declined for now and your first round pick was the problem with the raiders is like when you go so far off the board like they had in 2020 and 2021 and you were wrong you can't go so far off the consensus and be dead wrong yeah what was Leatherwood. What was in that? What were the offensive tackles in that draft?

Wouldn't Derrisaw in that draft? Yeah, he probably went, what? Like a pick after this? Hold on. Leatherwood went 17. And the offensive tackle, that was picked directly after him at pick number 23,

Christian Derrissaw. Not great. Yeah, that's, admittedly not great. Who else? Okay, was Tevin Jenkins after that? Not a big deal. Liam Eichenberg,

Walker Little, I mean, that's okay. You missed on Darrys, although it's bad. Walker Little, better than leatherweight. Well, yeah, unfortunately. Yeah, that's a low bar, unfortunately, but yeah, yeah. Okay, so this is draft history. Let's talk about head coach candidates before we get into the roster, because I know you want to talk about Max Crosby

and sort of building that bad boy out. We are both on the same page. I think it's, we would like to move on from Pete Carroll, as long as Mark Davis has the money. you got to move on. These are the head coaches that I have as potential head coaches specifically for the Raiders situation. Brian Flores, who is the defense coordinator of the Minnesota Vikings. Yeah, Clint Kubiak, who's the offensive coordinator for the Seattle Seahawks. Joe Brady, offensive coordinator of the Buffalo Bills. Chris Shula, the defensive

coordinator for the Los Angeles Rams, Jesse Mentor, the DC for the Chargers, Anthony Campanile for the defensive tackle. Maybe he'd go out there and play defensive tackle. Defense coordinator for the Jacksonville Jaguars. Calvin Chepard, the D.C. for the Lions, and then Adam Sinovich, the offense coordinator for the Green Bay Packers. Connor, any of those names or any others

that stand out to you would love for you guys to hear or would love to hear from you guys on who you think should be the next head coach. Yeah, B-Flo. Brian Flores all the way in this spot. If he has the right offensive coordinator paired with him,

do you think Josh McCown is ready, and he goes with him over there. Is there another name that he likes? If you don't feel he has the right offensive coordinator paired with him, then maybe you roll the dice on Kubiak if you think he can grow into the head coaching role because you're confident enough in his offensive scheme while developing a young quarterback. You know who I really love? The dude who's pictured there.

Chris Shula. I love Chris Shula. Yeah, he's been with McVeigh since 27. He'd been with a ram since 2017. And the thing is, like, he is, him and, him and McVeigh went to college together. Yeah. They were teammates at Miami of Ohio. They've known each other for a long time.

This is what Jay Glazer had to say about Chris Shula a while ago. He said, quote, I'll tell you this. Of all of the coaches that Sean McVeigh has kind of pushed along to be new head coaches, he's done more with Chris Shula than any of them combined. These two guys are best friends. They went to college together. McVeigh thinks he is going to be a star. I love what he has done on the defensive side of things for the Los Angeles Rams.

I'd always be a little bit wary of anybody outside of a major coaching tree, you know, somebody under Kyle Shanahan going somewhere else. Well, then they don't have Kyle Shanahan to help them out, right? Sean McVeigh, okay, this guy goes somewhere else. And then they don't have Sean McVeigh to help them if they have questions. I always get a little bit wary of that, but man, it seems like this dude who is going to be, how old is he going to be? He's 39 now.

I think he's 38 now. Maybe he's turning 39. Somewhere around 40, just under 40. I think that he's got the potential to be an absolute stud, man. And if you're talking about truly investing, like what we talked about, resetting, having a long-term plan, building this thing the right way, I'd give this dude a shot. I would absolutely have this guy in the interview list. I would seriously consider him to be the head coach next year.

He's going to get looks. He's definitely picking up a lot of steam over the last month. Castro Rader in the comments at Chris Shula with Brian Dable as offensive coordinator. Maybe we are drafted Lenora Sellers. Just battering Ram QB power the whole time. I would be, so you like Brian Flores. I like Flores. I also think Flores is another guy that'd be.

able to manage dable dable is an explosive personality flores with mccown or dable he needs an offensive coordinator that has a presence but i think i think flores is the best head coach candidate where schula there's more risk but obviously a lot of upside yeah a ton of upside there i honestly think that shula would be my favorite so you like brian well how about this yeah and i i actually if you want to go the Shula route, here's another option I could pitch as offensive coordinator. And it wouldn't, it would be a promotion because he'd get to call plays technically. Can he bring Michael LaFleur with him from the Rams? Oh, man.

Now, LaFleur has an O.C. title with the Rams. Yeah. But McVeigh gets all the credit, right? Like, there's no way around. And I think LaFleur is doing a lot of really good things there. And McVeigh calls a plays. So. Right?

I would, I would, yeah, yes. Yeah, because LaFleur is not calling plays. I would think no. I don't know why Sean McVeigh would ever not be calling plays. Right. So Shula would handle the defense side of things. And then the, the promotion that you could offer LaFleur is that he would then get to call plays if he's with the Raiders. You know?

Yeah. So that's an interesting tandem that is very realistic in my opinion. I kind of like that the best man I kind of do so Shula bringing over Mike LaFleur as his play caller or Malafloor if he gets fired

you know no I'm kidding seriously though no if he gets fired he's getting a head coach job immediately I agree yeah I agree I mean without question I thought Mike LaFleur was actually a good play caller with the Jets just the Zach Wilson draft and experiment and develop meant was nuclear, that he, he was the fall guy, what he made Sala fire him.

Sala never wanted to fire Michael Lofloor. And that's why Sean McBay hired him immediately. So Shula and LaFleur. I like that. Let's move forward with that if you're okay with that. I love it. Okay. So then let's get into the roster.

So now that we have John SpyTech as the general manager still, we've got Chris Shula is our head coach. We got Michael Flores our offense coordinator. Don't know who the defense coordinator is going to be. we'll figure it out. The projected starting line up here. Quarterback, I have a question mark. It could be Gino.

Still under contract next year. It's Gino's structure. Feels like it wouldn't be. Because you have the ability to, if you cut him, you save $8 million on the cap on the cap. Oh, man. Yeah, you don't love the 18.5 dead money.

No, but you save at least eight, you know, off of what it would be total. Do you, okay, so we need to figure this out. Are we drafting a quarterback? Because honestly, if you are, like, is Gino not a bridge guy? He's the definition of a bridge guy. Well, not this year he's not. He can't stop turning the damn ball over.

I agree with the offense is pathetic. I don't. And he's part of that. I don't disagree with you. But if he leads the league in interceptions or turnover-worthy plays by the time we get to the end of the year, you can't bring him back. Yeah. You know?

It's just a big dead cap hit to replace him with somebody that we don't know if they'll be better. No, it's, I hear you. I hear you. The, you know, somebody actually said in the chat, do you trade for Trevor Lawrence? I don't think Trevor Lawrence is getting traded, but I do think that Kyle Murray is on the trade block. So you could think about that, but it's not like the Arizona Cardinals are going to take Gino Smith. So no. You would have to have this dead cap and then you're taking on Kyler's Conner.

Yeah, that's a lot of money in bad, and not great quarterbacks. Right, right. A lot of people are saying wait till 2027. Yeah, that's what everybody's everybody thinking. Alfie's Alfeet addressed the elephant in the room, man. The best quarterback on the Raiders right now is in the owner's box. It's true. I haven't read the current collective bargaining agreement.

I don't know if there's anything to a guy being the starting quarterback and also the owner of the team. I would assume that you can't do it. While calling the game. I assume. While in the pre-broadcast meetings with the other team's head coaches learning about what they do and what they don't do well. Incredible. Insider trading at its best. I don't know, man.

And the chat, The chat seems to be more towards waiting until 2027 to address quarterback. Then you're riding it out with Gino. That's just the toughest part. I know. If he leads the league in turnovers, how do you bring him back? Because it's really because of the money. It's not because of the player.

Like do we want to pay you $18.5 million to not play for us? or do we want to, but we save eight? This is where, you know what's tough, Trevor? A lot of the guys that make sense is bridge guys that take care of the ball better than Gino are not free agents. Mac Jones is not a free agent. Jacoby Brissette is not a free agent. No.

They all. Daniel Jones is the only like free agentable quarterback. Right. And there is no world where Shane Steichen loses Daniel Jones. No world. It would be unless he... Daniel Jones would probably come back for a pay cut. It's the best he's ever looked.

To stay with them instead of going to the Raiders. He chose to go there when he could have went to the Vikings, back to the Vikings. Right. Because he knew he could start there and succeed under Scyken. And he was right. Daniel Jones was right. So... Okay.

Let's stick with Gino then. Oh, man. I don't like it as much as you. It's like... Yeah, but what are we going to do? So if we stick with Gino, a quarterback, then we've got Ash and Gentie at running back. We don't have wide receiver one on the roster. I think Trey Tucker is a really nice complimentary wide receiver, but outside of him, like you said, they signed Tyler Lockett, and they're given Tyler Lockett like legitimate looks at this point.

Yeah, they need to give the other guys burn. Right. Brock Bowers on there. I should have, it should be Brock Bowers slash like Jack Bash. I think he should absolutely be in this conversation as well. I just, I feel as though between Trey Tucker. Jack Bess and Deontay Thornton, they have their wide receiver 2, 3, and 4. I still think they don't have that wide receiver 1.

Well, their wide receiver 1 is Brock Bowers. Is Brock Bowers? So you can pseudo say that he is the guy who is good there. But that's sort of how I view the wide receiver room. Colton Miller starting at offensive tackle. I don't know who's starting at the other offensive tackle. DJ Glaze is still under his rookie contract going into next season. And so I think he is the guy.

unless you upgrade. That's why I have it sort of in parentheses there. Jordan Meredith and Dylan Parham are free agents. So I move Jackson Power Johnson back to center for them. And then they still have Alex Kappa, but Alex Kappa hasn't been good. Right. So do you agree with how we've set this up here? Yeah.

Okay. And this is why it's a full rebuild. So going down to the defensive side of things, We have Max Crosby. Tyree Wilson is under his rookie contract, so I assume he will be in some sort of mix for that Edge 2 spot. Adam Butler, Tonka Hemingway, which, by the way,

we didn't bring up and talk about enough, like how bad the Christian Watson situation screwed them over. Like he was supposed to be a major part of what that defensive line was going to do. Yeah, what did I say? Watkins. Watson. Sorry, sorry. The receiver on the Packers. He's sitting there like, the pointing guy.

Christian Watson listening to this video like, wait, how did I screw him over? I just caught two touchdowns. Christian Wilkins, yes. And he was supposed to be a building block for this team, and obviously he's not even there anymore. Linebacker, Atlanta Roberts is a free agent, but he's probably done enough to come back. I think that he's been solid enough. He's not who you want is your LB1. I don't think Devin White is either who is a free agent.

I don't think Jamal Adams is either, who's that converted safety linebacker hybrid. which if you get rid of Pete Carroll, I'm not so sure that Jamal Adams has a place doing that in whatever the next regime is. Maybe they do, but I think linebackers a major issue for this team. They need a CB1, as much as I like Darien Porter.

I think he's probably more of a CB2. They have Jeremy Chand to play in the slot, who I think he's been fine, and then I think they need major safety work. Them not... It's the whole defense. Well, and that's going back to what I said, like Robert Spillane and Trayvon Merrick

walking last year. They didn't really. replace them. They didn't replace either of those guys. They're like, nah, we're good. Now, I don't remember their cap space. Maybe they would have been tight on it, couldn't really make it happen. But it sucks to go watch those guys be really damn good for their new teams, and you got one of the worst defense in the NFL. Not ideal. No. So you want to have the Max Crosby conversation. Let's talk about it. I don't think they're trading him, because I think that if it was ever up in the air that they would,

he wouldn't be on the team anymore. They would have gotten him, rid of him already. But you want to make a case that the time could be now to trade him. Yes? If not now, it's not happening. If it has to happen this offseason.

And if you want to hit on maximum value, credit to Max Crosby, he's just one of those dudes that's like, I want to be here when things turn around. I want to be a part of the turnaround. He plays his ass off. Every single snap till the clock hit zero. It's, I give him a lot of credit.

Everybody wishes there was so many more guys in the NFL that had that mentality for these basement franchises. The problem is Max Crosby is in his age 28 season. He'll turn 29 before next season. He's still a great player. Do we think Trevor, the Raiders are going to be good before Max Crosby's prime ends? I don't.

I think there's a chance the Raiders are good in two years if they have two really good off seasons. But the problem then is, is that you're still in a division with the Chargers, the Chiefs, and the Broncos. So you have to really nail it. Your margin for error is pretty small. So I understand the point that you're bringing up

because I agree with the theory is why would you pay a guy a lot of money and ruin his value that you could get on the trade market if he's not actually going to impact you when it matters when you. you're in a winning window. And I totally get that because I think somebody would trade two first round picks from Max That's the thing now.

Yeah. Right? Like a soon-to-be 28-year-old Quinn and Williams just brought back a 2027 first and a probably top 50 pick in 2006. So I would think Max gets the two ones. Max, he's an edge rusher. Max gets two ones. Yep.

It stinks, right? Like heart and soul. guy, everything you ever want in a player. Yep. The timelines just don't align. They don't align. Now, if he really just will not accept a trade, then it is what it is.

And once again, like I tip my cap to him. But if he is willing to entertain a trade this offseason for two ones, say it's the bills, whoever you want it to be. There's a lot of contending teams that would love to have Max Crosby. Then

I, if I was rebuilding this team, I'd make the tough decision of taking the two ones over having Max Crosby because my timeline for this team to be good again does not align with Max's Prime. And it's a, that's a damn shame. I do agree with you.

You know what I think that we should do? One with him and one without him. I don't think that it's likely that he is gone. Yeah. But I think that we should do a mock draft. One of our mock draft should be with Max Crosby gone. Sure. Just to see what it looks like, you know, to really finish the exercise. But

let's go into free agency then so let's let's talk about free agency because a lot of money that's sort of the lineup there well team needs identifying some team needs before we hit free agency qb1 of the future you know we're bringing back gino but qb1 of the future wide receiver one offensive tackle two opposite colton miller offensive guard one and in theory two but i think you could bring back dylan parham and be okay there edge one if you're well it should say edge two. So edge one, if you're moving on from Max Crosby, edge two, if not. Linebacker one, corner one,

then safety one. I think you need all those. Too many ones, Connor. Too many ones. A lot. They have 79.4 million in effective cap space, which is the third most in the NFL right now going into the 2026 off season. However, they only have 31 players

under contract for 2026. That is the least amount of anyone in the league right now. I thought that it was the commanders. We did the commanders episode on Monday. I thought they had the least amount. It's actually the Raiders who have the least amount. And then the commanders are next with 34. These are the players

who are, oh, I mentioned Gino Smith. If they cut him, they save $8 million. They've got 18 and a half on a dead cap, but they save $8 million of it. Alex Kappa, if they wanted to cut him, he's going in the last year of his deal. He hasn't been great for him. You can save $5 million if you really wanted to do that. But

if you think he's going to be serviceable for you, you probably keep him around because you want the offensive line to be as good as possible. free agents Malcolm Coons is a free agent I have as an asterisk guys that I would bring back Eric Stokes I'd bring back

just because you need corner depth and I think he's having a decent year with him being healthy Atlanta Roberts I think you bring him back because he's been decent Dylan Parham I think you bring him back because he can be a serviceable guard for you Jamal Adams I don't think you bring him back

Tyler Lockett Lonnie Johnson Jr. Devin White Samir White Kenny Pickett and then Kaiu Blue Kelly their corner is a restricted free agent and then Senator Jordan Meredith I guess he is still going to be on the team I forgot he's a restrictive free agent not an unrestricted

free agent so he'll still be in that mix but Connor I'd bring back Eric Stokes for depth Lana Roberts to maybe start as your LB2 Dylan Parham to maybe start a card for you and that's it I'd let Coons walk after the one year deal he's just not that same player after the ACO

what do you think I think the question is do they think Coons just needs time Like, is there medical information? Hey, you know, coming off the ACL, this happens to a lot of guys, especially guys where explosion matters so much. Does he want to stay for a year and reestablish his value as a, he's just, he's 27. So I'm not closing the door on Coons because I know what he could be when he's right,

but they know more medically about him than us. with a restricted free agent I pulled up the exact definition so I could read that off to you guys because somebody's asking what's a restricted free agent a player with three accrued season excuse me and an expired and an expired contract

RFAs are free to negotiate and sign with any team but their original team can offer them one of various qualifying offers or tenders is what they are commonly called that come with the rights of first refusal and or draft pick compensation. So basically, you know, somebody who is an RFA can negotiate with another team, but if they come to an agreement with that other team, you know, if they're tendered, then that means that the team that they are leaving gets a draft pick back

for the other team to sign them so the other team will give them a draft pick or they get the ability to match the offer. So restricted means that you basically have an option to save yourself from this player going somewhere else via either draft pick compensation or matching the contract that you think that you can get up. elsewhere. So that is a restricted free agent just so you guys know that part. So let's get into the free agents that they could potentially target. Okay. This is the list that I came up with. Obviously with only 31 players under contract, they'd have to sign a crap ton of guys. Right.

But these are the high impact guys that I feel like they could go after here. First one, Tyler Linderbom. If you can get Tyler Linderbom, go freaking do it. I put Jackson Power Johnson to guard at that point. Right. Yeah. I don't. care. You're great with that. The thoughts with Linderbaum, yes, it's most likely that he's going back to the Ravens. However, the current situation is that he, they declined his fifth year option because when you talk about fifth year options for offensive linemen, offensive linemen are all lumped together. So it's not that he's getting fifth year option money based on just centers. he's getting fifth year option money based on all offensive linemen including offensive

tackles who make a lot of money so you would have had to pay him a ton of money on that fifth year option so the Raiders chose not to do that so technically he is a free agent coming up this off season they'll probably need to make him the highest paid center in the NFL to bring him back and before they do that they have to work out Lamar jackson's contract because Lamar his salary cap balloons up to 74 million next year so they have to figure out if they're restructuring or resigning him to make sure that they're good there before they sign the title linderbom all of that can't happen but he is still out there and available so if they have the opportunity to go get title linderbom that is extremely ideal to me because then you would have

a really solid interior offensive line that you feel really good about i got george pickens on this list if he ends up really hitting free agency and can move elsewhere i think he'd be a great wide receiver one for this team devon lloyd we've mentioned on basically every fixture franchise if he could be a great linebacker one for them. I love that. These two are the two that I think I like the most here. Boy A Mafia or Odafei O.A. Right. I like these two dudes, especially if you still have Max Crosby, because OA, sneaky, Connor, 17th and passers win percentage this season, 17.6 passers win percentage. And boy, Amafi has got a 13.1 pressure percentage. And I don't think Seattle can afford to bring him back. He was a trade deadline candidate because they got some big contracts. They have a lot

of guys. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. So I like them bringing in, not not resigning Malcolm Coonson bringing in one of these guys instead. Yeah, one of these guys is absolutely, I think Mafei would probably be the player in this spot. I mean, it's hard to, I could make an argument, hey, if, right, so we're going by if they kept Crosby. Yeah, because Mafe, you know, big bodied edge defender. I think he was pretty good against the run. last year. I know they've been much more pass rush focused this year. They've created a lot of chaos. So yeah, I'm with you all the way. Those guys, one of those guys has to be signed in this spot. And it's realistic. If you have an opportunity to sign one of Braden Smith or Rashid Walker,

I feel like I would like those moves. My preference would be Braden Smith because of how much he has started for the Indianapolis Colts throughout his career. I know. You always wonder, like, he took a pay cut to stay. It's very weird. Yeah, because he was, wasn't he he was he was dealing with something last year yeah yep so i mean it it was sort of a situation where they worked with him and yeah he had free he's hitting free agency now um but him opposite colton miller i think he could feel pretty decent about yes this is the kind of move they need to make right yeah so if they have the opportunity to go get him i would i would i would go for that i really would um quentin lake i think would be excellent for this team he is having a really good year

two interceptions this season but and those are the first two of his career, but the forced and completions for him have been consistent. He has consistently been somebody who's been able to get his hands on the ball and affect the ball. And especially if Chris Shulah's coming over his head coach, he knows how to use Quentin Lake because he's having a great year under Chris Shulner. The Graham's safety play is like eye opening. Dude, so good.

Eye opening. What they did to Seattle's offense. Yeah, great call on Quentin Lake. And you always like the player that comes with the coach from his unit. Yep. like we did with Spags and Chanel to the Giants. Right, exactly, exactly. A lot of people in the chat are talking about Rikwollen as well as a potential option for them.

I don't mind it. I've never been the biggest Rekwollen guy because I think he's really high variance, even for a position that is naturally high variance. So I'm just not the biggest Rekwollen guy, but I think that you guys out there are obviously making a claim because it's impressive when a player with his size and athletic ability is playing well. He could potentially be a CB1 for you at times. I just don't love the consistency.

they're from so of these guys let's look we've got a lot of money to spend let's pick a couple that we're bringing on the team you want braden smith to be one of them and then either boy if boy amoffa or o't f a o't i think those two are yeah i bought boy a mafe okay so let's so let's we're bringing him mafay we're bringing in brayden smith and i say quentin lake is like it just is such an obvious fit with the coaching hires we made collins said they have requal in at home with derian porter kind of wow it's not crazy kind of Kind of, kind of, kind of. You know, Jalen Phillips is somebody that I thought about here,

but if you're building the team for the long term, are you going to take a chance of somebody who's been hurt? It feels like Philly just finds a way. And I thought the same with Elijah Vera Tucker, too. Like, Vera Tucker, I think in theory, would love him for this team, love him. She's hurt a lot. He's hurt. So if you're really just rebuilding,

are you really going to take a player that's just been hurt a bunch? I don't know. I don't know if you are. Maffay, Braden Smith, Quentin Lake, I think written in Penn. Okay. All right. I would love for them to make an aggressive play for Linderbom. You drafted Genty and now you're trying to rebuild this offensive line on the interior.

Ooh, Alante Taylor. Chris mentioned in the chat. I don't hate Alante Taylor. But Alante's a little bit more of like an inside out sort of slot guy. I think Jeremy Chin does that pretty well for them right now. I guess it kind of depends on what their defensive structure would be if you like the idea of like Chin and Lake as the safety's back there,

then you could maybe go get Alante Taylor and he could play like the inside out slot for you. I don't mind that. But I like Jeremy Chin when he's a little bit more in the box. Hmm. And Quentin Lake also plays some nickel too. I like those three that we have. Is there anybody else that you want to throw out there?

Because I'm going to say Cordial Flot. No. Again, Flot's more of a slot for me, and I think they got slot handled right now. Good call from Zach in the chat. They can maybe get, well, it's funny because they actually drafted John Simpson and cut him. Oh. Which is kind of different regime. Times have changed.

Hey, I got Kalil Mack on this list. There you go. Come home. Come home, Khalil. They should be looking at the guard the Jets don't bring back. That's actually a good point, too. But it's weird because it is funny. Simpson was a draft, not bust for them because he was a fourth round pick,

but he was, he didn't work out at all there, figured it out in Baltimore, got even better with the Jets, and now he's going to hit free agency. Player development, man, especially on the interior of the offensive line. I don't mind Parham. If you're signing Braden Smith to offensive tackle, does Glaze then kick in a guard to help the guy? Yeah, maybe they don't have to spend on a guard. They probably then have Meredith and Jackson Power's Johnson at that point.

So then your offensive line without Linderbom would be Colton Miller, Dylan Parham, Jackson Powers Johnson, DJ Glaze, Brayden Smith. Pre-draft. Pre-draft. And then the defense would be Max Crosby, maybe. Boy, Amafay. Boy, Amafay. You got Hemingway and Butler in the middle.

still no linebacker um Quentin Lakes at safety you get Darian Porter at corner one of the others I guess Isaiah Polamalo would still be the other safety I got an idea at linebacker okay I mean this team

you watch the defense they are so freaking slow go get Quincy Williams for the middle of your defense one of the fastest linebackers in football oh yeah is he a free agent oh I like that. This team is so...

Because he's actually a traditional linebacker. Yeah. This defense, man, watching them against Dallas, it felt like watching them in slow motion trying to tackle people. Yeah, let's do that.

I like that. And Quincy's going to hit free agency. Yep. So look how much better the defense looks with Boye-Mafé, Quentin Lake. We got a player at each level of the defense.

Boyer-Mafay, Quincy Williams, Quentin Lake. Yep. Yeah, I like that. I like that there Jordan was saying Nate Lamben to steal another RAM Is he a free agent?

I'm not sure because I mean you could I don't hate that one but I like Quincy Williams I really do It's because of the team's speed Yeah yeah I like that I like Quincy Williams

Let's go Quincy Williams there A lot of people are saying no Parham I like Parham but hey if you guys want to say He's a very finesse I do think I agree with their general point like they need to be a mauling put like a drive blocking kind of line so do you i don't see

parm as that guy so then do you want to say let me look at the guard market real like why it teller's out there why teller um you'll have maybe john simpson right i don't mind teller if teller's leaving. Yep. So if John Simpson gets out, we could go with him. And if not, maybe we go with Wyatt Teller. Does that sound good? That makes sense. Okay.

All right. Okay. So we won't re-sign. Let's not resign Parham then. Let's give the people their voice here. And we'll go with one of Wyatt Teller or John Simpson as one of the starting guards. You get Jackson Powers Johnson at center. Get DJ Glaze at guard.

Braden Smith's at right tackle. Colton Miller's at left tackle. Then on defense, it's, yeah, Max Crosby, Boy, Maffay, Tyre Wilson, Quintz, Tanka Hemingway, Adam Butler in the middle. Quincy Williams, Atlanta Roberts at their linebacker spots. Dary and Porter's one corner. I don't know who the next corner is. We'll probably need to draft one.

Jeremy Chin's the nickel. Quentin Lake at safety, Isaiah Polomolo at safety. Okay, I don't mind that. I think we're doing a lot there at free agency because you're not going to be able to fix it in one sweep. So... Showing holes.

Yeah, we are. It's fired up. It's fired up. Yeah, it's trash. Simulator then. Let's do it. It's draft, baby. It's time.

For the Las Vegas Raiders, they have a first round pick, a second round pick, a third round pick, two fourth round picks because of the Jacobi Myers trade. Obviously, we won't be doing that here in this episode. But no fifth round pick due to the Kenny pick a trade. two six round picks and seventh round pick. So we've got a lot to work with here

for the Las Vegas Raiders. By the way, guys, if you don't have a PFF plus subscription, now's a great time to get one because you can run as many mock drafts you want. If you use a promo code at Black Friday, get you 40% off a PFF plus subscription. So make sure that you guys go out and do that if you don't have one already.

The Raiders are currently picking sixth overall. We're here in the first round. Three round mock, obviously. So what we're going to do here is we're going to have one mock where Max Crosby's on the team and then we're going to have another mock where we're trading away Max Crosby for at least an extra first rounder this year. Connor we got number six overall we've simulated Ruben Bain Arville Reese Ty Simpson for Fernando Mendoza and Jordan Tyson are off the board.

I think that that's very realistic for those five names to be off the board maybe in a different order but that's the way that we have it right there. It can Caleb Downs. I know. Or Peter Woods. Yep. And both our needs. Dude.

Quentin Lake. Hear me out. Yeah. Jeremiah Love. Why don't you suggest? Can you sneak at this, at that rate? Oh, man. That would have been great for you to do.

Those of you who might be watching this for this for the. the one-off. We already discussed this inside joke that we did for the full fixture franchise episode for the Las Vegas Raiders, which you guys can see on the YouTube channel, but obviously make it fun of me for saying that the Raiders could have potentially taken Tyler Warren last year and had the greatest tight end duo of all time. Alfi goes, Trev likes the look of Kenyon Sadiq. I'd say, can never have too many good football players. No, but seriously. The duality of man, H.M. Yiz said, I'd go, Peter Wood.

Two comments later, corn doggy, do not draft Peter Woods. Let's see. I like Caleb Downs. I do too. I think there's an argument he's the best player in the draft. I do too. And especially with Chris Shula as our head coach, just him, Quentin Lake, the way the lake is played. You haven't Jeremy Chin.

You got Quincy Williams, got Atlanta Roberts. Like that's just such a really unique defense. talent that you could play with. And Caleb Downs, he's one of the best players in this whole class. I did a tape breakdown on him for NBC this week, which it's crazy. It took me this long. But I was like, ah, let's press the Caleb Downs button. To watch him through the course of the year, make blow up screens and runs downhill,

cover tight ends one-on-one, 40 yards down the field, and he's in better position for the ball than the tight end. And then play single high safety and pounce on a route, tip a ball for a lay-up pick for his teammate. I'm like, I don't know. And he's also one of the most physical football players in all of college football on top of being, I think one of the smartest defenders I've ever evaluated. Yep. He is, I'm telling you when people are like, when people start doing that, can you take a safety in the top 10 all spring? I'm going to turn into the Joker. Well, it's, you guys got to, because I see, because I see this in the chat, and it makes sense.

And this is a really good time to bring this up. The positional value conversation obviously matters when you're talking in a vacuum. You do not want to generally go away from what are higher positional value players when it comes to your premium picks. It's quarterbacks, it's offensive tackles, it's pass rushers, right? Like those are, and sometimes, you know, like difference making like a shutdown corner, a true CB1 or a star wide receiver. I'd say those are the premium value pick players that you would consider taking in the top

10 because those picks have the most value. However, you have to be able to also look at a football player and just know that this guy's different. And you don't want to make a habit of this, but I really do think that Caleb Downes is in the conversation with Kyle Hamilton, Anton Winfield, Jr., like that, like those types of players. We're talking like defensive player of the year caliber type of guys. If I didn't think that he was at that level, I wouldn't have this conversation, but I do think that he's that kind of a football player. I would take Caleb Downs here. I'm with you. Okay. Start changing the vibe of this team. I hope that Chris Shula can be what Mike McDonald has been for Seattle.

yeah he says he says i don't know but kyle hamilton somebody said but Kyle hamilton went like what 14th you are right but would you say that Kyle hamilton outplayed 14th overall i certainly would right i would certainly say the an Antoine winfield junior outplayed being an early second round pick so i totally understand what you're saying but you're not going to get Caleb downs at 14 in this draft you've also got to be able to evaluate the draft as it is you're just drafting one of the best football players there in a draft that i i i I don't love the blue chip talent in this draft. Correct.

Admittedly, like, let me be clear. If you're a Raiders fan listening to this, like, I can't believe we just did this. Because I see a lot of people saying this feels like Brock Bowers for defense. If there was a franchise offensive lineman, franchise quarterback kind of player there, I totally get it. But the way the board broke for us. I think, I think Towns is. I don't know, man. Right, right.

I think there's a little too much hate on who Caleb downed it is as a player. I really do. In this version, Caleb Downs is our first round pick. We are going to do two mock drafts. Yeah, we are. Okay, so for this second one, this second pick here, Amari Washington, I think is a candidate

because they don't really have an impact defensive tackle. Right. Is Christian Miller still that? God, your Jets just took Christian Miller one spot before us. Which is very realistic. No, it's a betrayal. It's what it is. The mock draft simulator has got a lot smarter over the years.

Yeah. Caden McDonald's gone, too. Oh, that's a blow. Yeah, would have loved one of those guys. Hear me out. All right. Caleb Lomu as a tackle to eventually take the reins over. So.

For Braden Smith. Oracle Miller, right? Because how old's Braden Smith now? 30. He'll be 30. His age 30 season is next year? I thought he was older. that is he only 30 i think his age 30 season is next year he is he's 30

and then cole miller's going to be 30 probably cold miller is 30 okay so around the same age so you're getting ahead of it with offensive tackle i some people are saying quarterback i would there's not one that i would take here well yes they need a quarterback we we need one available yeah Do you want Garrett Nussmeyer here, who was just benched? The, uh, the only one that I think about, um, is Jade Miava. I'd think about Miava here. I would.

I have this better than he gets credit for it. He is. Yep. That's not a crazy idea at all. Are we, we, there's no shot. We get Miava in the third here, right? Probably not. That feels.

Windsor, can you click your picks, Tyler? Because it'll show you the number. Oh, 70, 70. I like myava here. Yeah, I do too. I just did, I'm doing some more tape breakdown stuff. And I was trying to, I was going with like, okay, here's a good play. And then here's a bad play.

And I was trying to go over, even like the turnover worthy plays for him. And I'm like, I don't hate these. Like he plays the position extremely well. He does. He does. Let's go my Ava, man. Okay. Let's do my Ava here in the second round.

Okay, I like this. Sorry to the person that I just said to take a quarterback. And I was like, one needs to be there. And then my office staring me right in the face. You know what? You were right. So Jake Slaughter's on the board. Max Claire, Jack Hendry's, don't need any of those guys.

Maybe Dalyne ever from Georgia, dependent if your scheme wants to play a lot more man coverage stuff. I think he's best at that. Nikki Prongos is probably the player that I would get as a developmental fits our theory last pick that we- We didn't do. Julian Neal is a bigger, taller corner. having a good year. Jake Galday, the linebacker from Cincinnati. I think he could play

like as an edge linebacker hybrid for you. CJ Fight, Darrell Jackson, Jr. What's CJ? Can you click on CJ Fight really quick, Tyler? Kind of intrigued by CJ Fight. He's a guy that always, the tape always impresses you more than the grades. Yeah. I learned this summer. He's, he is just a, I mean, he's a run stuffing dude. Like, I just don't think he's going to give you really anything in pass rush. We're in the third round. That's true.

Him just saying I would take Isaiah World as a developmental tackle. I mean, I'd take Nicky Prongos way before I'd take Isaiah World, to be honest with you. I don't have a finality on that take yet. I don't hate the, yeah, I don't hate the thought process. They still need a wide receiver one. Could we go to wide receiver? Let's see wide receiver. let's go can you can you just show us wide receiver offensive tackle and defensive tackle

I like C.J fight here so you like him the most I if you take a wide receiver in this slot and feel like I'd rather just try to keep developing the guys I have one didn't fall if you want to go developmental tackle though between Blake Miller and Nikki Prongos and I say a world that's an interesting combo too i think fight makes you a tougher team up front on defense yeah because i don't think they have a ton of depth of defensive tackle either no they have nothing uh let me remind myself of what we have here mac curran goes connor would rather stop the run than anything i am obsessed with stopping the run they have j j bickies but he's more of a one gapping player tanka hemmingway's more of a foolbacking player yeah they kind of would need a

CJ fight type of a guy. Yeah, dude, eat your vegetables. I don't hate it. I don't hate it. CJ fights the next guy there. I think I like Nikki Prongos as a player more, but... Oh, Big Citrus went two spots ahead of us. That's brutal.

All right, let's take CJ fight. Okay. So we got, this is the with Max Crosby draft here. We get Caleb Downs, Jada, C.J. Fight. I don't mind this. I really don't. I think that Maiava is a really nice developmental quarterback. I think he could really, I think he'd be a starter at the NFL level with how well he plays the game. And just some excellent touch throws.

Why do you think nobody ever puts him in the combo with the quarterbacks? I still think a lot of people talk about him. That's what I don't understand. People are too big talking about Jacoby Lane and Mackay Lemon, you know? Yeah. I don't know if, and I just don't know if people are taking USC seriously enough. it's the Lincoln Riley quarterback thing. I don't know.

But I mean, obviously Lincoln Riley had Caleb Williams, so maybe that's just not even a real argument. I don't know, not sure. New name, maybe people just are late to getting around, but he's got some really good tape there. All right, let's fire up another draft and let's trade. Hold on. Who's trading for him of these teams?

Cowboys? No. No, just kidding. Patriots? Oh. Am I wrong? Yeah, chat. Let us know.

Who are they, who are they, who's trading for Max Crosby here? Bears. Maybe. Seattle is. Seattle is kind of interesting. Yeah, but then they have a lot of, they generate a lot of pressure though with all their guys. I know. And they would be taking on Max.

contract and they already have a like that's the boy A Mawfe thing that's how we got New England I think it's New England I think it's New England yeah or Detroit you think Detroit would do it

I think Brad Holmes likes drafting because he's good because he's really good on it and Aiden Hutchinson with my my boy Tileak in the middle all right and Oley McMill damn Cap Space NFL

Hold on, hold on Old Reliable here Let's see Who has the most All the lot Oh wait, no, no, hold on, hold on 2026 Let's see

Who has, Seahawks Actually do have the money But they've got a bunch of guys That they have to sign Commanders, we just went through this With the commanders On the Monday show Like they just

They can't afford to trade more drafters They need draft capital Yeah, they need draft capital So Patriots have the money. Patriots can do it. Oh, yeah. They've been trying to make splash after splash. Let's do the Patriots then.

Two first round picks from Max Crosby. Yeah, you enter the draft, Tyler. And you guys can, yeah, go over to trade. You guys can do this on your own. If you have a fully unlocked PFF mock draft simulator with a PFF plus subscription, which, of course, you can get for 40% off using the promo code Black Friday. You can trade players. You can trade all the picks, everything like that.

so um let's go down to max crosbie new england first round this year first round next year fourth trade no you don't get we're not giving them six yeah yeah yeah okay so now we got six and 30 to work with okay all right so who is uh on the board for us let's see oh t j parker we traded max crosbie just to draft an edge no i hate it it's jordan tyson now okay jordan tyson or fernando fernando's there you think well taking him at six they might they might it's interesting so tie went okay so tie went but yeah it's probably mendoza in this spot because now you got the extra draft capital to work with.

If he fell into your lap, you take the quarterback, maybe you get a wide receiver one or an offensive lineman at 30. Don't have to start him year one. No. Ease him in. All right, let's take Fernando Mendoza then. Yep. Let's do that at number six.

Let's see what we got here at number 30, because we'll have 30 and then 38, I think, is what we'll have. Ooh, Casey Concepcion. Cam Miller Channing's Dunker the ass kicker Caden MacDonald here as well I would probably take Caden

I think he's the best player for them in this spot So we'd have our edge rushers at this point would be Boe Mae Faye and Tyree Wilson which maybe you're just saying like hey we're putting it all on Tyree do or die year and if we don't have it next year

we're drafting an edge rusher pretty high because we have an extra first round pick you like that thought process there people are saying Colton Hood as well the corner from Tennessee to potentially be your CB1 because remember we pick at 38 not far after this yeah you're not going to get Caden McDonald at 38 I guarantee that not in the simulator

okay let's let's take Caden McDonald for the run defense and then let's see which corners are available for us at 3rd A lot of people really want an offensive line. I just, what is the board here? It's Jennings Dunker. Yeah. But. So take.

Oh, Colton Hood's there. That's, I thought that would have. Oh, look at you. You're a wizard. I know the, I know the, I know the algorithm of the simulator. Wow. Yeah, I'm, Mike McCarthy's been crapping on our mock draft, so I've been in the lab. Okay.

right let's take colton hood because now we potentially got uh two outside corners we feel pretty good about obviously we signed quentin lake we got kate mcdonald now on the inside all right last pick here got to get mendoza a piece here jeremy bernard is there i like that a lot yeah that's real nice what offensive linemen are available yeah let's the offensive line guys sorry about the screen quality if you're watching live. We know what happens sometimes. See, it's still the offensive linemen. Blake Miller,

Nicky Prongos, Isaiah World, those guys are there. I would like J.C. Davis later to play guard. All right. Not now, but we got him in the fourth. Yeah,

we could actually, uh, the point being like the Raiders can get, guard. Yeah, they can get some guards in the middle of this draft. You want to go Jeremy Bernard? I do.

Okay. It just gives Mendoza, a safety blanket to grow with. Matt, Lagway, tight in three. Get out of here, Matt. Get out of here. Borg said,

this is how Trevor's camera. That's amazing. I hate you guys. Love you all so much. Okay, let's do Jeremy Bernard as our pick here. Omar Cooper also potential there, but I like Jeremy Bernard better as a player.

So we traded Max Crosby. So we got a first rounder in 2027 as well. We got Fernando Mendoza, Caden MacDonald, Colton Hood, Jeremy Bernard. I mean, that is, you see the A grade there. Wow. I mean, if you're moving on from Max Crosby, you feel pretty damn good about this one.

So that's just a look into what it could be here for the Raiders. But ultimately, Connor, as we're kind of whipping up our like, fix your franchise sort of final graphic that we have here, I think that we should keep Max on the roster because I think it's the most realistic. But I like this draft so much better. better. But I'm glad that we did this. I'm very glad that we did this because this gives you a look at like the people who would be like, oh my gosh, we would, we would never trade Max Crosby. It's like, okay. Sure. Then you got, that's why we do multiple mock drafts because going back to the Jets where we were like, this is what it looks like taking a quarterback this year. This is what it looks like taking a quarterback next year. Yep. It just gives you pimped. yeah jaden mayava jack bash yeah i like this ain't this ain't bad man defense significantly upgraded yep

i think that this is this is pretty this is pretty nice here well okay so it's got he's got colton hood in there we don't have colton hood wait oh no no no this is the other one he flipped it wow this is all right pimped version one i didn't even know he had I didn't even know the chef had two graphics working here. Pimp in V1 and Pimpin V2. This is V2. Let us know, people, which pimped your franchise version do you like the most here? We got Chris Shula as our head coach, Mike LaFleur as our offensive coordinator. In the pimped version that has Max Crosby on it, we got Gino Smith slash Jaden Maiava,

Ashen, J. Trey Tucker, Jack Bess, Brock Bowers. We got Colton Miller, Braden Smith, John Simpson at Guard, DJ Glazed at Guard, and then Jackson Powers Johnson. We got Max Crosby, then signed Boy A. Mafei. We got Adam Butler, C.J. Flight, Tonka, Hemingway, those guys there. Quincy Williams, Atlanta Roberts. Don't have our CB1. We'll figure that out. Darian Porter, Jeremy Porter, Jeremy Chin, Quentin, and then Caleb Downs, my goodness. And then the second one, I'm doing this for the audio only people. No Max Crosby in this one. But Fernando Mendoza is the quarterback, Ash and Janty, Jeremy Bernard, Trey Tucker, and Jack Bash, Brock Bowers. Still, Biller, Braden Smith, John Simpson, DJ Glaze, Jackson Powers. Johnson. Don't have Max Crosby, so it's Tyree Wilson, do or die year with Boy Amoffey. We got Adam Butler and Caden MacDonald.

We got Tonka Hemingway with her depth as well. Still the same linebackers, Quincy Williams, Atlanta Roberts, Colton Hood, SRCB1, Darry and Porter, Jeremy Chin, Quentin Lake. We did what we could. We did what we could. It's a big project, and it's not a one-off season project, but this is a way better baseline. That matches the hiring process.

I think so. I think so. Let's do, let's hammer out a couple of these super chats, get through as many as you possibly can. Fredo, not $2 super chat, said Lane Kiffin in Vegas will go crazy. Yes, literally. Yeah, part two. Yeah, I think they already did go crazy. CQ Enrad, Pete Carroll's had a great career,

but it's time for him to serve the highest good by retiring to the PFF basement with McCarthy. Amazing. I'd love to have him in the office. It'd be a fun dude. Bring up the energy around. Whop your ass in one-on-one basketball. Hey, I probably would. Charlie $10 super chat said,

Jack Bash must have punted a small child. This man has only gotten 10 targets in this wide receiver group. why do they even draft him? I don't know, man. Go to what we talked about at the top of the show. Andrew Eaton, thank you so much. I got a lot of crap for drafting Hampton 101 in my dynasty league instead of Gentie. But I pointed to who is going to block for Genti midway through the season.

I feel a mildly vindicated. Nicely done. Good scouting, Andrew. Yeah, you got to fix the offensive line. If the offensive line was going to be this bad, I think everybody probably took it made him do, but they didn't know that there. Why a $5.5 super chat, AP winning 5 of 7 as an interim set this franchise back at decade meaningless wins took us out of drafting jaden daniels or drake man man i mean when you put it

that way i mean why it knows he's a diehard raters fan i know he's been following our stuff for a while and he's he has a feel for the team as much as any fan so he's he's not wrong um mays two dollar super chat said y'all are the best in the industry thank you maize thank you uh an arctic turn thank you for the five dollar super chat the raiders pimp my ride episode is like if they stopped after putting in the aquarium, Gentie, and kept the rest of the beater using a spare tire. Very good, Arctic. Very good. Yeah, somebody, wait, hold on. Somebody said they're definitely putting a slot machine in the door for this episode.

Who's the slot machine in the door that we added here? Who is the slot machine? Caleb Downs. Is he the slot machine to the door? Pull the lever. Could be rich, folks. Fortunately, he is. Franchise QB gave us $20 Super Chat said as a non-euroes.

20 euros, you're right. A yearos goes a long way. as a non-English speaking native sometimes miss a few words of what you guys say for months I thought you were referring to us as the addicts spelled out an attic like what's above your house what's above your house and that it was some kind of pun uh kudos from france please fix my cardinals appreciate it franchise tv thank you for listening all the way over in france justin pitt thank you for the super chat thank you guys for being the best football podcast out there and being my main source of entertainment while I door dash and dodge people playing in traffic. Also, please fix my

Browns here soon. Thank you very much, Justin. Hopefully we provide a little bit of entertainment when you're working. And yes, your wish will be granted on the Browns. Yako, finally catching this live. We're hearing you guys at 1X speed. Shout out to everybody who listens to podcast at 1.5 and 2x. Y'all are the real sickos, but we do love you for it. Don't forget, Al Michaels was traded NBC for a cartoon rabbit hashtag last episode. That's right. Storm Hyabusa. Thank you for the $10 super chat. If you made the Cowboys defense look good, there is no pimping this team.

We tried. Hopefully, hopefully it looks a little better. Bill, $5 super chat said Patrick Graham's like that futon that you have in an old frat house. No one wants to deal with it, but it's starting to smell funky. He comes with the place, man. He does. He'll be the D.C. as long as he wants. This is like you inherit this.

This is like your inheritance, to be honest. You're passing this down to future generations. Ethan O is back. Thank you, Ethan. And Trevor mutes the chats on mock drafts like a coward sick of a. Wait, what do I do? You mute the chat on mock drafts. How do I mute the chat?

I don't know. Also, Connor is a Bears fan. I know a poverty franchise when I see one. Sorry, pal. Hey, bears have had a solid year. Things are looking up with Ben Johnson. Maybe you're out of it. Nicholas, two-dough super chat.

Malachi Baby Jesus, Gabbo's Tony. Malachi, Tony does look pretty great. But what two years to scout him. Baby Jesus to you. I guess, I guess it is. Matthew Dishon, thank you for the $20 super chat. Are we pimping the Cardinals anytime soon? Can they actually be pimped?

First live show, by the way. Appreciate you guys. Maybe we might. Every franchise can be pimped. They are on the list. They are on the list. They are on the list. Thank you, Matthew.

Rakesh. Oh, wait. Yeah, yeah. He's next. Sorry, I'm late to the Pimp Your Franchise episode. I was busy getting a mock draft. Getting a mock draft simulator installed in my trunk. Let's go, baby.

keep up the great work fellas appreciate you hanging out of the parking lot with the boys and you open your trunk and you all start a mock draft you just go to the parking lot at Walmart pop open the trunk sit there with a sit there with a lawn chair and just the mock draft's going you're just asking people who are walking by to hey what's your pick mock draft yeah yeah dr rosen thank you for the five dollar super chat had to finally donate to the nfless e yacht fun waiting on the day you release a strictly based off film hat that is good merch that's good That's some good merch there. Just another DJ said reports from yesterday say the Raiders front office is safe,

but Pete and Chip are on the hot seat. Front office wants to see the rookies play. Pete wants to win his way with the vets. That's exactly how we talked about this team in the first 20, 30 minutes of the episode, man. That's just the way it feels. That is the way it feels. That SpyTech drafted players that Pete doesn't want to play. And that's just you'll never have a successful franchise if you're on on the same page.

Dynasty developer, new viewer, love your guys content. welcome and thank you you ever touch on fantasy football particularly the incoming rookies strawberry uncrossibles till death we do uh we do yeah when we go when we go through position rankings we do so from you know where we think these guys are going to get drafted how well they can play and then of course like the draft grades episode afterwards i think there's a lot of fantasy content there hoffy two dollars should have kept germane illuminore too absolutely tackle guard flexibility good player you're absolutely right ricky new york live why to sellers hold the ball.

Guys not open or Commodore 64 speed processing. It's everything. Yeah, he holds the ball really long. The offense stinks. The line's bad. But he does. He is not a fast processor right now, but it is everything. Big Billy, bonjour from France.

Oh, yeah, France just representing in the chat. We love to see it. Finally awake for one of these. Listen to you guys, pretend to fix this hapless franchise. Keep up the great work squirts. Appreciate you, Billy. Man, Billy, are you, are you French, or are you just in France? Because I have some French friends, and they don't say hapless, and they don't say squirts.

So, he's on vacation, just flexing that he's in France. I like it. Nicholas Saran, thank you for the super chat. Is it true act behavior to be watching while taking an anatomy midterm? Don't worry, it's not that hard. I'm impressed. Yeah, seriously. yeah that's good on you honestly

Ethan $5 super chat Raiders will trade before the draft Bears please an extra first to move up and after 8 million years finally drafted QB so Connor did you know that the Raiders had not drafted a first round quarterback since you Marcus Russell

I just thought of it when he said that I was going in my head of all their quarterbacks They're a car for all those years, but yeah. He was the second round pick. He was a second round pick. Wow, that's really interesting. I didn't know that until Moe Maurice, who covers his team for Bleach report. Dude, an incredible job.

I was reading his article as sort of a primer for the information that we were gathering. And he wrote that and I was like, oh, I blew my mind. I had no idea that they had not drafted a quarterback in the first round since you're Marcus Russell. So shout out to him. Mr. Awesome, the $10 super chat. JPJ is done. SpyTech hates him. So does everyone else.

I think that's supposed to be trash at Guard or Center. The Bucks took him off their board completely after he came in for a visit before the 2024 draft. All right. Look, man. JPJ is a good player. If Spitec hates him, then they're moving on. But I don't know.

I'm going to keep him on the team and he's a good player. So they need all the O-line help that they can get. Colin, thank you for the $10 super chat. What is the role of an offensive coordinator under a head coach that calls plays? Someone with a similar system to reinforce. course the offense or different system or different perspectives seems like an apprenticeship but most no a lot of guys that have a title like that they do all the install all week they come up with the game plan it's team by team some guys they might specialize in the red zone

they might specialize like when mike macdaniel worked all those years for kyle shanahan he was in charge of their run game specifically and that was a crazy grind he would be the run game coordinator all week and it orchestrated all their run game Calling plays is more about having a flow for the moment, but you can be an offensive coordinator that doesn't call plays, and you still did all the install all week, all the game planning and everything like that. So it's actually a job that gets underappreciated, in my opinion.

I agree. I think there's any time, it's always like a cohesive staff. Like it's not just the guy who's calling plays is calling everything. Like it really is a cohesive staff. Last one, Mitchell, $5 Super Chaz, lifelong Vikings fan. I don't think you need to do

a fixing the Vikings episode just need to say Fire Questi and it'll all be okay I don't know if we're going to get to the Vikings this year but man they're very disappointing this year I have the Vikings potential Super Bowl if this goes any worse we are going to get to the Vikings I do not like where things stand

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that you would love for power rankings to come back. Maybe we need to throw a power rankings episode in there, but we're trying to run through as many fixture franchises as we possibly can because we love doing them. You guys clearly love watching them. That's the thing, man. I'm even surprised. The engagement and feedback we've gotten from this series,

I don't really want to stop doing them. Our hesitancy always with doing fix your franchise for this long, this many times in a row is that people will be like, well, I don't really care about the Panthers or whoever, so I'm not going to watch. And what we're seeing is that nobody's like that right now. Right, right.

I think doing the shows live and getting to go back and forth with the addicts certainly helps in that regard. So we'll keep doing fix your franchises. We'll keep doing the live shows because you guys see. seem to really love it. It's a show of the people. We appreciate you guys. DeSauder said you guys would go. It's wow, we appreciate it. We really do.

We're just having fun talking football with you all. Oh, by the way, Barry in the lead here, the hat order has been placed. Oh, they're back. Got a couple of weeks. I'm not sure exactly when they're going to be here, but the hats have been restocked. I ordered a lot of hats.

And I hope that they don't sell. No, look, I'm not going to say, I hope they don't sell it in 24 hours because I love for you guys to sell them out in 24 hours. But we got a lot of hats that are coming in. So give us a couple of weeks. Could be early December, I feel like maybe mid-December when they should arrive. So just before the Christmas holiday season, we should get the hats back and we should have those things available. So I won't tell you how large the hat drop is. It's the biggest one, though.

It is the biggest one. By far, it is the biggest hat drop that we have had. So that is coming at some point. but yeah appreciate everyone watching love you guys for Tyler cook the chef behind the scenes for Connor Rogers I'm Trevor Sikkimus saying thank you guys so much for watching this episode of the NFL Stock Exchange podcast we will see you guys on