Fix Your Franchise: Tennessee Titans
00:00Welcome to the NFL Stocky Shage podcast.Trevor Sika, I'm a Connor Rogers here with you guys.I was able to fix my camera.For now, look at you.Of course, I have to say for now,because we don't know what's going to happen next.As you guys can see,I'm wearing my finest video game Astro headphones complete with.
00:30the microphone because technology challenges that's just a 2025 story for me all right i'm goingthrough the injuries the injury report is long when it comes to technology here for this podcast butyou know what i'm the san francisco 49ers baby we're power through or at least that's what i'mgoing to stick with connor how you doing my friend i'm good man as long as you're here with me youcould see the look of fear strike my face when i realized i'm all alone on this podcast i was likeoh my god it's me and the chat andI just start laughing at me.You're just, uh, you're calling Cowherd then.
01:04You just go straight into solo sports talk show host.He's so good at it, though.I felt more like the Joker, not Keith Ledger, more like Joaquin Phoenix up there with the spotlight on.And everybody's silent looking at me like, oh, oh, this is bad.Oh, wait, people are saying that I'm having mic issues.Do I have mic issue?You had a couple blips, but you're okay now.We good now?
01:29Yeah, right now.All right, all right.Yeah, it looks like you're piloting a helicopter, but you sound fine now.Yeah, exactly.That's where we're at this point.No, I'm just calling the play in.I'm just calling the plays.You know, we're talking about the Tennessee Titans today.
01:44Very first episode, it's Fix Your Franchise.We're talking about the Titans.We're going to be fixing the Tennessee Titans today.Very excited about this one.And we've got a lot of head coaching candidates.Maybe I'm one of them.Maybe this is my way of saying, hey, let me call plays out here.So, I don't know.
01:58D. Sauter in the comments.He's hacking.There's no way, bro.That's what I hope.That's what I hope everybody's thinking.Oh, boy.Amazing.This episode's going to rule because I know there's a lot of you guys who maybe found
02:16our channel during draft season last year.And so you probably missed a lot of the fixture franchise episodes.So this is one of our favorite series that we do here on the show.And we do it around this time of year.Basically, what we do is we take a deep dive into,of these teams looking at absolutely everything. Normally we kind of wait for these head coachesto be fired because then, you know, those teams are officially in draft mode. They're officiallyin rebuild mode. So that's normally when we wait to have these conversations. But we're going
02:40to get into everything here. When it comes to the Titan specifically, we're going to get intoexactly how everything went wrong, not just this year. We're going to talk about the foundationand the roots and see if that's a major issue as well. Ownership, front office, coaching decisions,staff decisions overall. We're going to take a look at the roster, going to identify some keycornerstone pieces that we have here for the Titans moving forward.We're going to talk about offensive and defensive philosophies for this team moving forward.We'll build out a free agency strategy for them, talk about how much money they have to play with,some targets that they could have.
03:12And then as we always do, we will end it with a three-round mock draft.But Connor had a great idea a couple weeks ago.Hey, wait a second.Now that we're doing the show live, let's have the people do a mock draft as well.So Connor, you and I are going to do a three-round mock for the Titans, but then the people,the addicts, those who are watching the show,we're going to give you guys the keys as well,and you can do a three-round mock draft through the PFF mock draft simulator.
03:33So I'm excited for this one, brother.I love it, man.You filled out the stock with some excellent nuggets and data for this team,you know, not just PFF data, but all different kinds of stuff.We're going to go through a lot of the history of, you know,what's gone right, but mostly what's gone wrong when you're,there's no way around it.When you're the first team that we fix and, you know, listen, they are,
03:54there's a team in the NFL that doesn't have a win.And so I understand people in the comments that are like the Jets are so bad,they won't even fix them.We will get there too.But the Titans right now, they were the first, you know,it was the first head coach to be fired this year.And when you do that, you're kind of announcing to the league.Like, hey, this job is open.
04:11We are starting this process now.And it's going to be a very long one because it's literally still October.Trave, I'm going to rip through a couple super chats here while we get the end already.Let's kick it off.Yeah.I want to make sure we give these some love before we get.get into the fixing the Titans.Thank you, Ty Kendall.
04:29While watching some Sinty tape for Soresby,what were your thoughts on some of our linemen like Joe Cotton,the left tackle, and M&T, right guard.We actually got this question in the super chat last week,and we said that we're going to watch the Sinckeye O line,because I know Trevor, when you watch Sorsby,you weren't specifically focusing on them.Right.
04:46We are going to do a stock watch on Wednesday.I can't promise that that group will be included in that,but they could be.We'll see maybe because we've gotten the question multiple times now.They should be.but today we do really want to focus ondedicating all of this to the Titansand Trev, you have any thoughts here?
05:01Interrupt me at it.No, no, not for the Sincio Lyman yet.I haven't gotten in.We are going to get to them.But we're definitely going to get to thembecause they've gotten a couple of shoutoutshere on the show.So we appreciate.
05:10Yeah.I've tried you in that.Thank you, Ty.Thank you, Peter Kilmartin.Trevor's Cam going to come back on fixedand he's going to be in the same exact outfit as Connor,hair too, and talking like Tony Soprana.That'd be great.
05:22We should be each other for Halloween.that would be that actually would be hilarious it'd be ridiculousfredo thank you for the super chat go to dye your hair i'll die my hair jet blackwhat what what did uh what are you used to do when like not i'd need like highlights almostyou would yeah you'd have to go you'd have to go like frosted tips or just go yeah cody roadslike it's just all blonde oh man that'd be pretty sweet maybe i will fredo n bcc would love you foryeah they'd be really happy hey uh it's big10 it's big 10 college countdown big 10 saturday night here's this idiot with bleach blonde hair
06:01uh it's the last time you'll ever see him on channel 4 fredo thank you for the super chat that was apittsburgh sports radio level crash out that was a pittsburgh sports radio level crash out yeah it wasan amazing crash out uh libertarian saskwatch thank you for the super chat hey guys love the showi know we're talking about a different poverty franchise but for my mental health can you startmocking quarterbacks of the Cardinals.We are near having that conversation.I think it's pretty fair.And it's not what Kyler Murray has done recently.
06:30It's what Jacoby Brissette has done that has highlighted what Kyler hasn't done, if that makes sense.So, yeah, I think there's a conversation to be had about the Cardinals in the future, their position, and we're going to have a lot of that.Andrew Harbaugh, a friend of the show, thank you for the super chat.Nice to see Trevor recover from being the guy on the right to being the guy out of sight, courtesy of his camera last episode.yeah love it harbs good good stuff well done well done cj thank you for the super chat and then we willget to fixing the titans titans fixing the titans fixing starts at 822 folks cj says trebs mikesounds like the kids who used to call me certain words we can't say in real life in modern warfaretwo lobbies like you have to be our age and i'm sure you are cj to understand how cod lobbies
07:17Gears of War lobbies, Halo lobbies.Gears of War lobbies, good call.Yeah, Gears was, yeah, and it was tough out there.You were a big gears.I never played Gears.Yeah, no, I was, I actually was a Gears guy over, like, I didn't really play Halo very much growing up.Cod, I had, like, was a pandemic thing for me.And I quit cold turkey because I think I really had to.
07:40Yeah.So it was controlling your life.It was a downward spiral from here.Yeah, yeah, yeah.My family had an intervention with me.Last one here, and then we'll get into the Titans, I promise.This one from the Stankmaster, hoping the dolphins are on Fixer Franchise at some pointthis season, I promise you they will be praying that McDaniel and Greer of fire mid-season.
07:58That's the thing.I'd like to wait.I hate to say wait for someone to be fired, but it just feels like the end is near there, Trevor,where it's easier for us to have the combo without the assumption they're going to be fired.Yeah, and what we'd like to do with Fix Your Franchise and the reason that we wait a little bit,Like, for example, the Jets are Owen seven now, are they six?Owen seven.Oh, and seven.
08:20So, like, we could do fixing the Jets, but we're kind of waiting to see, okay,exactly what the changes are going to be because we would love for you guys to be ableto reference these episodes.And we would love to reference the research that we do for when we get into the offseasonwith a lot of these teams.So we wait a little bit.But when you do fire your head coach, that does signal things.And that's exactly what happened to the Tennessee Titans.
08:41They fire Brian Callahan as we sort of usher in this.how we got here, sort of portion of the show to kick us off and how we're going to fix theTitans. We've got to understand how they got here in order to really best understand how to fixthings. So they were one in five when they fired Brian Callahan. They lost this past weekendto the New England Patriots to Mike Grable of all head coaches. So they're now sitting at youdo you know that Brable's got five wins this year, right? Five and two. Yeah, yeah.The Titans, since they fired him two years ago, have four wins.So we call a tough scene in the business, in the industry.
09:23That's what we call a tough scene here for the Tennessee Titans.And last year when we did Fixer Franchise, I think we took a little bit deeper of a dive into the ownership and really what happened with Rabel,because I think that was a big part of the story for them.We won't take as deep of a dive there.So if you want to hear a little bit more on the background and, you know,when Rand Carthin, you know, was there and was let go and hiring the players that they hiredand getting Brian Callahan, all that kinds of stuff, like we talk a lot about that kind ofbackground in the fixture franchise episode last year.
09:59But I do want to set it up somewhat similarly because the sins of the past are still a partof why this organization is where it is.So if you go all the way back to, I'm going to take it back to 2020.20. That is when they finished 11 and 5. They lost in the wild card round. Then they had the year after. This is when Mike Brable was the head coach and John Robinson was the general manager. They went 12 and 5 the next year, lost in the divisional round in 2021.2022, that's when the things started to not go well for them. They started the year 7 and 3, but they had a lot of injuries, especially down the stretch. They ended up losing 7 in a row. They finish 7 in 10 and they don't make the playoffs.that year. Six and 11 the following season in 2023. That's when that was Rand Carthens first yearas general manager. So Amy Adams-strunk, who is the owner, principal owner of the TennesseeTitans, who took the team over from Bud Adams, who owned the team for a long time. She has run
11:06the team since 2015. And she was the one who was sort of at the center of firing John Robinson whenthey did, which at the time seemed really soon to fire John Robinson. Now, we'll look back onsome of the draft history. The roster wasn't really going in the right direction. And so you couldunderstand that if you wanted to give control more towards Mike Vrable. But Rabel then said,like, hey, give me more control of football operations and decisions. And Amy Adam Strunk basically said,No. So she goes out and she gets Rand Carson to be the general manager. And then there's this weird power dynamic and weird relationship where Mike Vrable, he just, he didn't take well to that. I don't know how much he respected the decision making of what was going on at the very top. No. Because it seemed like he was pretty defiant to a lot of things that were going on. Eventually, Adam Strunk got sick of it and fired Mike Frazier.and we talked about this a little bit more on last year's show,fired him in a meeting that lasted two minutes,
12:16and Rand Carthin wasn't even in the room for it.It was like, hey, Mike, we're moving on.Here's your severance package, see you.Which is a really weird way to go about firing a really, really successful head coach for you.So he's gone.Rand Carthin's there.They go out and they get Brian Callahan.Callahan ends up finishing three and 14 in his first year,
12:38but he's got Will Levis and Mason Rudolph as his quarterbacks and so you go, okay, you can understand why he didn't do so well. Now we're sitting here at one and five.They're one of the most undisciplined teams in the NFL. They have one of the worst EPA per plays in the NFL. Cam Ward is struggling. The team does not look like they are getting better in basically any direction. And they decide to pull the plug after a year and a half of Brian Callahan and sort of waved the white flag there. Ironically, as Mike Vrable comes to town now with thePatriots and puts an absolute whoopin on him.So that's sort of how we got there.We're going to dive a little bit more into John Robinson and Rand Carthin.And now that Rand Carthin is gone, Chad Brinker, who is the president of football operations,and Mike Borganzi, who is now the new general manager of this team as they sort of spearheadwho's going to be the next head coach of this team.
13:28But, Connor, any thoughts there about how we got there?It seems as though, Amy Adams Strunk, from what I have.learned, because I've reached out to, you know, some people who cover the Titans and things likethat, she wants to win. Yeah. But it feels like she makes a lot of emotional decisions. Yeah.And she's not prepared to be patient. She does not want anybody to undermine her authority.And I think that's how Rabel is out of the door. And I think that's also why they're on theirthird GM in four years they're about to be on their third head coach in four years like it's justyou're never going to have success if you have that short of a leash and if you're that
14:16impatient what do you think yeah i think that obviously emotional decisions from ownershipownership that is often they own the team so i know it's weird to say this but they are not thefootball people necessarily and I'm not saying this you know because it's you knowAmy Adams strunk hasn't been running this team forever I would say this happenslisten I've covered the Jets for a long time I know when ownership gets involved with thingsand makes emotional decisions that I can short circuit a plan right um and hold on I want to bevery clear here neither of us are saying that because she's a woman that's where I'mI want to be incredibly clear here.
15:00Owners make emotional decisions for the worst all the time in sports.So that is, I just, I want to be extremely clear about that.That is in no way an angle that I am trying to play.But that is the, that is the history of actions that we have seen over the last four years from ownership.Without doubt, I know there is a lot of frustration from this fan base directed at her.And I think it's justified.I think that you nailed it where you said it feels like Braybill was fired strictly because he wasn't happy with the power structure of the team.He's a pretty vocal and blunt guy.
15:40Anyone knows that about Mike Brable.It's probably one of the traits that helps him get where he is, right?He's not really going to beat around in the bush.It feels like she was emotionally affected by that rather than having enough conversations of how do we fix this?because right he's a guy that had one coach of the year he had taken that roster further than itever should have went the reality is it's going to be harder in this landscape of the NFL foryou to not only upgrade from that but match a coach of his level and you haven't your first crackat it went horribly where the guys already fired right you can't win games so i think that and i know
16:19there's been an effort of this but it feels like there needs to be like she needs to find better advisorsat this point right now because what she's done is not working at here's where i want to behopefully bullish is that mike borgonzi worked with the chiefs for so long that hopefullyhe not only knows what that infrastructure looks like and is set up like but has league contactsthat this this search is frontlined by him right done the right way by him wherethere's a little bit more faith rather than somebody that clearly is making so many emotionaldecisions is hopefully a little bit out of the way and that's easier said than done when itcomes to an owner because owners don't want to get out of the way of course they own the team like
17:09they're obviously very successful and and for yes and no go ahead go ahead go ahead I don't thinkthey're all successful I think a lot of owners in this era not all of them but plenty of them justinherited the team. So I was about to say that. So either owners a lot of times are very successfuland obviously they're going to lean on who they've been as successful businessmen and womento get to the point where they own a sports team. So they're going to have confidence in themselvesthat way. Or they've maybe inherited the team. They're probably making their money in otherways because if you own an NFL team, you're basically making money.Like it just, it doesn't, you basically sell zero tickets every single year and because
17:56the TV rights alone. Yes. You're going to be making money. So a lot of these owners do thisfor fun. Like, yeah, of course they want to win. It's a big responsibility, all this kind ofstuff. But they're not going to have their fun project where they just go, yeah, right, I'm going to,I'm going to be completely hands off. There's just not a lot of owners that do that.They want to be involved.They want to be a decision maker here.And I think that the Titans, like many organizations around the NFL, are sort of operated that way.They want to be involved in the decisions.
18:33But I do agree with you.We'll talk about Brinker and Borgonzi a little bit later.But I do think that they are great.And I would love for them to have like true decision-making power.And perhaps they will.And perhaps they will.Isn't it weird, though?Go ahead.
18:50Like Brinker's role with this organization, I don't really love the structure here.In my opinion, unless Borgonzi and him are, there's a lot of chemistry there and trust.Like, you hired Borgonzi to do a job.Shouldn't it just be him?I mean, Brinker was hired by the Titans as the assistant GM to Rann and then promoted to president of football ops.Rann gets fired, Brinker takes over as like an interim GM, and then they hire the GM,but Brinker stays on and Brinker hires Borgonzi?I don't love that, honestly.
19:33Like, if you wanted to keep Brinker as a bridge after you fired Rand because you really didn'tknow what you were doing and you kind of have shown that already, that's fine.But in my opinion, isn't it just time to get out of the way of that era and just let Borgon?Ponzi do this?Kind of depends, right?That's a weird dynamic, man.It's a weird dynamic, and the power structure has always,the power structure has always felt really weird and off with the Titans because it
19:59was like, okay, there was John Robinson who hired Mike Vrable, but then John Robinsongets fired and Brable stays.So then Rant Carthin gets hired as a general manager, but Ranc Carthin was personallypicked by Adam Strunk and not necessarily Brable.And then there's sort of like a power struggle where like Brable, I don't know anything about the relationship between like Carthin and Brable, but Brable then reported to Carthin, but he has been there longer than him.And he's actually had his fingerprints on the roster longer than he had.And then Braybel gets fired.And then Carthin has the opportunity to hire Brian Callahan.
20:39And then Carthin gets fired a year after signing an extension, by the way, which was crazy.and then now, yeah, like Brinker gets the assistant GM joband then he steps aside and he gets to president of football op's joband then Borganzi gets a GM job.But Brian Callahan's still there.So the head coach that they maybe would have picked isn't the head coach.It's just a really weird.You're always one strange step behind with the Titans.
21:04They're not aligned.They're not aligned.This is the opportunity.Finally, Brinker was a bridge to where you are now.pretty clear that he has some kind of connection with ownership here, that he was allowed tobe that bridge. But now move on, let Borgonzi hire a coach and have the coach report to him.Borganzi is the football guy. This draft, I think, is going to be okay. Like, there's nothingto signal to you that Borgonzi is a disaster or half a year in. I don't, why does Borgonzi
21:41have Brinker over him.And then when things start to go bad here,is they're going to be divide.Just align everybody.If you have Borganzi report to Amy and Borgan,the head coach report to Borganzi,everybody is aligned.And everyone's mission is to set up Cam Ward and the roster for success.
22:01This is just,I don't love this.And by the way,I've seen a lot of this before and it never really has a happy ending.There is something, too,I think too many cooks in the kitchen and too many people that have decision making poweror I should say like think that they have decision making power.Yeah.
22:24And it does feel as though I don't really know a lot about Brinker.I mean, he comes from the Green Bay side of things and he was came up from their scouting staff.And I believe he was their assistant general manager.If I remember correctly, let me look at his, just to make sure that I have thiscorrectly um damn where's the staff oh it's on the screen now i can just read it there yeah sohe came up through the packer scouting staff he was there for almost 13 years and then he comesover to be the assistant general manager for the titans but like now it feels like yeah he workswith borgonzi but it sort of feels like he's this in-between mediator between the owner and borgonzi
23:05and you're right it just it breeds potentialI don't want to say backstabbing, really, butPoliticking. It absolutely creates politics.That's the word. It breeds politicking. It really does.It really, on both sides. Because if the ship starts to sink, guess what you're going to do?You're going to go run to the owner. And you're like, no, it's actually that guy's fault.Oh, no, it's actually that person's fault. Like whoever it is. And anytime that there's a larger contingency or there'sthere's just unnecessarily people in there,
23:44then that breeds the politicking.And I feel like that happens a lot in NFL circles and at this level.But in theory, I do like the idea of both Brinker and Borgonzibecause they have come from very successful organizations where you read it right there.That last, or sorry, that middle sentence there,I talked a lot to East and Freeze,who covers the Tennessee Titans for AIS sports.He was giving me a lot of help on just some insider.
24:11thoughts on the roster and sort of where they're going and everything.Like those were his words right there.That the Chad Brinker subscribes to the Ron Wolf,old Green Bay philosophy of you draft and develop.You're patient.You go get the players that you want.But the problem is the Titans organization over the last five yearshas shown absolutely nothing close to that sort of process.
24:32So if ownership is actually going to let Brinker and Borgonzi,who Borgonzi from all accounts is like a football guy,like he is a grinder.he is a film dude he came up from the chief scouting staff he was bret beach his assistant generalmanager for a while we talked about him as a candidate almost every time we did one of thesefixture franchises a potential gm if ownership actually lets these two guys run the show and theyhave a good working relationship i actually like the background and expertise that both of theseguys have but you got to let him run the show you got to let him run the show without a doubt i'm
25:07I'm a fan of the Borgonzi hire.I really, really am.I think I am advocating against the current infrastructure, so he has the best chance to succeed.Like, I don't think he is the type of, to be honest with you, I am shocked with how qualifiedand talented of a candidate he was and how long he stayed in Kansas City, despite how desiredhe was in multiple off-seasons, that he took this job with somebody over him.And, yeah, I'm just a little surprised.I think that he deserve, after how long he's worked in the league,
25:41how much success he's had with an organization,how much leverage he had as a candidate,that he doesn't appear to have full autonomy.Yeah, so a bunch of people in the chat are saying that Brinker has final say over personnel.That's utterly ridiculous.A assistant GM of a failed regime fell upwards.That's ridiculous.Yeah.
26:03They must know something that we don't.Or they don't.and this is how dysfunction in theory yeah i mean the whole chat everybody that are titans fans that are hereand shout out to all of you because i mean i i feel you they they are not happy with the the brinker situationbut um let's see what yeah let's we're gonna see how it goes i i hope they nailed this coaching searchbecause we are big fans of cam ward and obviously the nfl is in a better place whennashville's team is in a better place yeah let borgonzi cook is kind of the way that i would i wouldlike for this to be. Absolutely. But let's take a look at the Tennessee Titans in 2025.
26:40Let's take a look at the roster and sort of like how they have done here. We'll look at theoffensive side of the ball first, is then we'll talk about the draft history. We'll talk aboutsome offensive and defensive philosophies that I'd like to see from them moving forward. Buthere we go. You see some of the numbers that we have here on the screen. On the offensiveside of the ball, it's not great. And this is why Brian Callahan gets fired. And to be honest, like,yeah, Brian Callahan was a failure. But Brian Callahan,I know it's easy to look back at things and be like, man, what a terrible hire.But he had head coaching interviews with the Panthers, with the Chargers, with the Titans.
27:15Like, it's not like the Titans just picked a random guy and got bamboozled.Like, there was a lot of hype around Brian Callahan getting his shot as a head coach.I think that the problem was is not only was he becoming a head coach for the first time,he was becoming an offensive play caller for the first time, right?Yeah.He didn't call plays in Cincinnati when he was under Zach Taylor as the offense coordinator.So he was kind of working on that part of it while also working on being a head coach.And to be honest with you, the criteria for being a great head coach and being a great play caller, they're not really that synonymous.
27:52Now, can you be both?Yes.But just because you're a great play caller, that doesn't mean you have the qualities of being a great head coach.And I think Brian Callahan was trying to learn all this stuff for the first time.And, you know, I've heard from people that, like, Callahan wasn't necessarily somebody who wanted to, like, command the room as a head coach.And to be honest with you, I mean, he was learning on the fly.Yeah, I don't know if that was something that was something that was like in the cards for him at this point in his career.And a lot of people thought that he was ready.
28:22Clearly, he was not here for this Tennessee Titans team.And you see that through the offensive numbers that are on the screen here.It's just for an offensive head coach and a guy that you brought in to.help Cam Ward.At first it was help whoever was going to be the franchise quarterback for you.Maybe make something Will Leveson.If not, we'll go draft the quarterback.It has not been good enough for the Titans on the offensive side of the ball.
28:44So those numbers are pretty damning to Brian Callahan.They really are.Yeah, they are.And, you know, this goes back to it.It's a friendly reminder.I think when you hire a head coach,you would love for them to have a phrase that you use and scouting a lot,a calling card because you know that that gives them a foundational strength
29:02that they can lean on while they learn the rest of the job.And what I mean by that is, say you're a really good offensive play caller.Okay, if you get a head coaching job, you should be calling playsbecause that is going to give you a baseline of something that the team is going to be good at.You're going to trust in the play calling on the offense.Now, are you going to learn the hiring process of a defensive coordinator?Are you going to learn more about special teams?Are you going to learn commanding a room?
29:30Or say you're a guy that, and this is kind of,of fading in the modern NFL, but you're really more of a CEO. You're a leader, right? You know how tomanage a staff. You know how to, you know, get buy-in from the team. And this depends whereorganizations are during the hiring process. The Tennessee Titans right now are in a phase of theirorganization for the hiring process where the most important thing is the development of Camboard.And the head coaching hire has to either be aligned with that or has to have a built-out planto be aligned with that.What I mean by that is even if you don't hire an offensive guy,
30:07he needs to have a built-in high-level offensive coordinatorthat you trust to be stapled to Cam Wardwhile you're building out the rest of the team.So that's where the Titans are right now.This isn't a, I know it's weird to saybecause they had the number one overall pick last yearand they have one win this year,but it's not a, God, we just need a baseline.
30:26We're awful everywhere.Like there is a very direct goal here, in my opinion,and it's all about Cam Ward's success and then everything comes after that.Yeah, which we'll get to offensive philosophy here in a little bit of kind of what I thinkcould be the way that they want to lean.But we've got some shoutouts for some musicians to take over at head coach.That's how bad things are.In the chat, higher jelly roll, the singer.
30:53Higher Luke Combs.Here's another one.Higher Kid Rock.All right.Hire Jason Aldeen?Wow.Tyler Cook for coach GM owner.Yeah, there you go.
31:03I like that.I actually like that.Big shout up, Peter, for that one.Be saying, Dolly Parton.I mean, the approval rating would probably go up.Fans would, fans would love it.This chat is just out of control.It's out of control.
31:17James Franklin to the Titans.Higher Al Gore.The guy who invented the internet?Man.James Franklin, who couldn't win big games at Penn State,I know, but it's so.I know it was a joke, I know it was a joke, but Shane is saying fine, I'll do it. See, there we go. Okay, Shane's going to do it. That's a selfless attitude, Shane.The Titans on Defense, though, take a look at the Titans on Defense. Not the worst. I mean, not the best, but the Titans on Defense are competitive here. You see the defensive grades, passers grades, run defense grades, all that kind of stuff. All of that is there for them to at least be competitive, a lot more competitive than they have been. So.
31:59I don't know if I totally agree with what you say, where it's like, man, they're not terrible everywhere.I kind of feel like they are pretty bad everywhere.But I don't say all that to take away from your main point where Cam Ward is the focus, right?You have to let Cam Ward be the focus.You have to build around him.You have to find a guy who, and you don't just necessarily want a guy who exclusively works with Cam Ward.You want an offensive mind that you feel like can sort of evolve with Cam Ward.You don't want Brian Dable?
32:31Brian Dable is just, he coaches Jackson DART.Everyone else get out of the way.Well, he coaches rushing quarterbacks.The offense is on the field, and he's in the blue tent with Jackson DART.Yeah, yeah.Wait, is my mic still bad?you had like a blip there but i like ray in the comments saying better learn radio shackbuddy yeah i mean at this point of time do we have radio shacks are they still they're gone right
33:06i don't know i know i haven't been in one in at least 15 plus years long time it's been a longtime yeah um okay let's get to let's get to the draft history and we'lli think that we could sort of just have a loose conversation and andTyler will do his best to sort of flash on screen kind of what we're talking aboutof this and you look at Mike Borgonzi's first draft of the Tennessee Titans as the generalmanager who I don't maybe it's Brinker's call at this point I don't know what you guys aresaying with final personnel decisions I certainly hope that Borgonzi has final decision whenit comes to the draft process is that good the good picks were from Borgonzie the bad
33:45of course of Brinker that's how this works yeah that's true that's true it's very trueso you don't want somebody a part of your organization that's how you that's how you default toso Jacob is saying solid draft and to be honest a lot of the playersI think they're going to build a round, do come from this draft.You got Cam Ward in the first round,Oloafemio Ladejo in the second, who I think was overdrafted,but by far, yeah.They like him, so maybe he becomes the pass rusher that you really wanted to.
34:08Kevin Winston Jr., he's back healthy, and I think he could be a good safety for you.Shimmerade, D.K., Gunner Helm, Elk, Ile-Mainer,all three of those guys in the fourth round,contributing players to the offense already, their rookie year.And then Jackson Slater, to be honest with you, as a fifth round guy,he might be a starter at guard for them at some point.So I think that's a really solid draft.Now, when you get beyond that, okay, Carthens draft in 2024, you had Latham,
34:34you had sweat, yet gray, yet Brownlee.Like those are the three or the four guys that you really focus on.Latham, the jury's out on him, whether or not he can play tackle or whether or not he's a guard.We'll get into that a little bit more in a second.Sweat's been impactful, but it feels though he's a little bit hot and cold and we'll seeif he could continue to get better.Sedric Gray looks like he is the starting middle linebacker for this team offorward he looks awesome he's been great yes he is fantastic so he is a cornerstone for them
35:02and then jarvis brownlee is not on the team anymore they traded him to the jet which by the wayit's only meant two games that trade looks horrible why he's been great for the jets i i don'tunderstand i'm watching him i did a tape breakdown for him on jets pregame after the broncosgame and i'm like why did the titans give this guy away i don't knowI was shocked about that trade when it happened.I mean, just gave him away.Yeah, I don't know.I think he's going to be a really good slot for the Jets.
35:39The only thing that I can think of is that he was just a Rancarthen guyand the current organization probably does not think very highly of a lot of Rancarthen picks.Yeah, yeah, maybe.Yeah, sure.Because then you got Peter Skoronski in 2023, Will Levis.who, okay, it's what it is with Will Levis, yeah. Tadje Spears, who I think could be fine.Skoronsky, Skronsky's tough, right?He's a thin, man.
36:10I think he's a really good player.But he is, you drafted an interior guy at 11 when I felt like the roster was needing morethan that at 11.I can't remember who else they could have picked at the time.But I love Skoronsky, but I don't know.I just a lower impact type of a player at that at that point in what your team building in2023 in my opinion yeah I liked him a lot so it's hard for me to sit in and be like howcould you take him but I guess the question is you know you took skeronsky at 11 it's it's weird
36:41because it doesn't feel like there's a ton of slam dunk someone after him I really likedChristian Gonzalez that's one you could argue who went a couple picks after him same forKalaja Kansi and, you know, JSN.Damn.Yeah, because who was there?Gibbs was the pick after him.There were better players that went after Skoroski.Who were there wide receivers that year?
37:08It was Hopkins,who, I mean, he,that was the thousand yard year for Hopkins.they still had Derek Henry, and then it was Chica Conquo, Chris Moore.Oh, I mean, this is Traylon Burke's, Nick Westbrookine.Let's be real.The league let JSN fall way too far.Yeah.
37:35Way too far.And a lot of teams look really stupid because of that.But once again, like the Skoransky pick isn't, isn't my problem with the Titans.He's fine.It's that you've got to hit on other picks.Yeah, that's, that's probably fair.I was probably being too hard on that because I also love.I love Skironsky, but I just, maybe it's just you look at these classes as they are now and, and you just go, okay, yeah, and I mean, Skoronsky is still good for you and it's not making a difference. It's really just not. But I probably shouldn't be too harsh in hindsight because I also like Skoronskyon. And I do think he's a good football player overall. 2022. This is John Robinson's last draft. Trailing Berks, Roger McReyer, Nicholas Petit Ferrer, Malik Willis, Hassan Haskins, Chigongue. I mean, the only, Roger McCreery is still on the team, but I don't know if they're really.
38:21just re-sign him after this.Chicka Conquo is basically the only guywho matters from that class.Everybody else's out.This is brutal.2021.Caleb Farley, Dylan Radin's,Monty Rice,
38:33Elijah Molden,Des Fitzpatrick,Richard Weaver.Bad.2020,Isaiah Wilson,Christian Fulton,Darrington Evans.
38:43Bad.You know,nightmare kind of stuff.And then 2019,yeah,Jeffrey Simmons and AJ Brown.And Amani Hooker.I'll shout out of Amani Hooker.
38:51there as well no this this is this is their godfather draft right here cool yeah that but that thatthat three year stretch from 2020 to 2020 that is tough to have longevity from a roster buildingperspective when you're drafting like that and they're and they are still paying the pricefor it they're still playing the price for it now yeah you can't miss across the board likethat it'll set your roster back no question so yeahLet's, uh, I do want to, want to knock out a couple super chats real quick.Yeah, go ahead.I'd like to chat that.
39:27Thank you, everybody that sends these from Jimmy, Mike McCarthy as head coach.Uh, we'll get to that.Yeah, we'll get to the coach again.Aidan Dird, the Seahawks defensive coordinator and Kevin Carberry, the Bucks offensive line coaches OC is the perfect staff for them.Kelby Anderson and Conner Stockton will save the Jets.Don't worry.Preston Weller.Thank you for the $20 super chat.
39:50y'all mentioned Clemson last pot, so here's a funny story.I go here and have two starters in one of my classes.The professor asked them if it was okay to ask about football,and one of them went NFL is cool.How about that Eagles game?I guess they have one step towards the league.And Andrew, did Trevor upgrade is Fisher Price, my first webcam?Damn.
40:11No.Traffic cam looks great today.Thanks, brother.Appreciate it.One more here from B.Connor, Helm, and Elykeye-O-Mennar were both drafted after Arian Smith, by the way.Oh, I know B.I know.
40:23I say it almost every week, how thoughtless that pick was at the time compared to where the board stood.So that was tough.Points to Mike Borganzi, negative points to the Jets drafting.Yeah, that was tough.That was tough.There's no doubt about it.All right, before we get into the head coach candidates, because I do want to tackle that.Next, Connor, I got a question for you.
40:45Do you have a favorite touchdown?Any touchdown?Do you have a favorite touchdown?I do.My favorite touchdown is the returned field goal.I think it's arguably-Any returned field goal is your favorite touchdown.Yeah, when I see a long-field goal attempt
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42:3021 plus agent eligibility varies by jurisdiction. Boyd in Ontario. Betts must win to receive the bonusbets, which expire in seven days. Minimum of odds required for additional terms and responsiblegambling resources.c.c.c.org.com slash audio is a limited time offer.all right head coaching candidates get into it brotherBrian Callahan's outChad Brinker I guess is making a lot of the decisions hereright and Mike Morgonzi going to be involvedwe see those two guys there covering those staff
43:09some head coaching candidates I'm going to throw out to youyou tell me how you feel about these guys who are okay okayFirst one I'm bringing to the table.Offense coordinator of the Buffalo Bills.Todd Munkin, the Ravens offensive coordinator.Mike McCarthy, somebody in the chat mentioned Mike McCarthy,get Mike McCarthy, stabilize the organization a little bit.Yep.
43:32Clint Kubiak, the offensive coordinator for the Seattle Seahawks.And then Diana Rusini said Matt Nagy, the offensive coordinator for the Chiefs,who obviously used to be the head coach for the Chicago Bears.Now he's back with the Chiefs as their offense coordinator there.And then Arthur Smith, who,was the head coach, the Atlanta Falcons.Now he's the offensive coordinator of the Pittsburgh Steelers.Diana Rusina reported those two specifically as names to watch for the Titans opening head coaching position.
43:59Last one that I believe you put on here is we were going through this.Is Jesse Minter the Chargers defensive coordinator?I love Jesse Minter.I do not think they're going to hire a defensive.Neither do I.I just kind of want Minter's name out there.I know the Chargers defense.They're having some personnel issues right now.
44:17I don't really think it's a schematic issue.But yeah, I agree.I just wanted to get some non-offensive coordinator on this list.Now, I'm not going to lie.Arthur Smith and Matt Nagy reruns don't fire me up.I agree.They just they don't fire me up.They don't.
44:39I will say, okay, so I like Todd Munkin a lot because I think he's a guy that deserves a shot.with his own team that's not a college team and I think he'd be really good for Cam Wardwhich is the most important thing here and I know Todd Monkin could command a room I don'thave questions about that I agree yeah I know Joe Brady would be good for Cam Ward I don'tknow anything about Joe Brady commanding an entire room right now like I'm not going to pretendto it's crazy but it makes you kind of look at McCarthy and be like I could talk myselfinto it right i mean like it's he when you look at this list i think munkin is my favorite of thenames on this list i think mccarthy because of his floor is number two for me is he i mean i
45:36once again i don't like the idea of naggy naggy or arthur smith for this team we don't thinkthey're hiring a defensive coordinator which takes out minter mm-hmm kubiak has done a lot ofreally good things. His Saints offense before all the injuries was rolling.Yep. And then they fell off a cliff. And now it's, he has Sam Darnold playing at an elite level.Yeah. So Kubiak's kind of a wild card here. Yeah. But, you know, it's, I need to know what hisstaff looks like where areas like, where like Mark, Mike McCarthy, you, you know he has the powerto hire his staff because of all his experience. We got a couple of suggestions in the chat.But Jacobs talked about Brad Izzick, who was the quarterback coach with Tampa Bay when Dave Canales was there.
46:23And then when Dave Canales got the job with Carolina, he took Brad Zidzik to be his offense coordinator.Now, he doesn't call the plays because Canales calls the plays.And so I don't think the Titans are going to want to rerun that sort of experiment with a guy who's an offense coordinator who didn't call plays now coming to be the head coach.I just don't think that they're going to want to do that.I agree. That's a really cool out.There is some talk in the chat.Beckett said this initially, now we've got some other people saying it.And Peter is talking about this too. Peter, $50 super chat.
46:54We got a Peter Baum.Dude, this is a Peter Bomb.This is absolutely a Peter Bomb here, $50 Super Chat.Christmas is back on.You're the go.Thank you so much.He says, hot take, but how secure is John Harbaugh's spot?This is also what Beckett was talking about.
47:08And is there a way he could end up on the Tennessee Titans?It's a stretch, but I don't know.And he says, hello, fellow.addicts from our overlord there, Peter.I don't think it's crazy, right?If John Harbaugh becomes available,I'm immediately calling him if I'm the Titans to make this happen.Yeah, can I get him and bring Todd Monk in too?
47:27Probably.Probably.Yeah.I mean, that's the A, like that's the number one in ink scenario, I think.Yeah, Sauter is saying this too.I don't think Harbaugh is as safe as people think.Oh, I agree with that.If Harbaugh becomes available, I would make him the number one candidate for the Titans.
47:48I really would.Absolutely.Because you can sit here and talk about it's frustrating that Harbaugh couldn't get you over the top recently,certainly with Lamar in the MVP seasons, but they have had so much success during Harbaugh's time as a head coach,not just overall, but even recently.Just the win-loss total alone, how this team has been competitive,Has to have the wheels fallen off this year?Yes, they absolutely have.
48:14But I don't think that makes John Harbaugh any less of a coach, to be honest with you.This is a competitive league, and it sometimes happens.I would take John, or Jim, yes, correctly.I said that right the first time.I would take John Harbaugh immediately for the Titans if he becomes available,even as a defensive mighty guy.A lot of people in the chat are also saying if Harbaugh leaves,Monkin will be the head coach.
48:37We'll see.Maybe, yeah.Yeah, maybe.I would honestly like love that then if that was the case if Harbaugh had to look for an OCI would do I would pay any dollar amount for Mike McDaniel to be the OC that's what a lot ofpeople are also talking about is if you hire a defensive coordinator to be your head coachgo get Mike McDaniel and make him your OC I would think McDaniel will be the highest paidOC next year in the league it's a it's a perfect role for him
49:08Perfect role for him.Yeah.Yeah.I know it's easy to pick on Mike McDaniel right now,but some of the limitations he has dealt withbecause of Chris Greer's drafting and Tua turning into a pumpkin when it's 50 degreesand drizzling outside.Right.
49:25Has just like the perception of Mike McDaniel, I think, is different from the reality.I'm not saying he deserves to still be the Dolphins head coach.But he is somebody that if your team hires as an officer,offensive coordinator in this offseason, you should be basically as excited about that higher as youcould be.I think you should be.I think McDaniel is a good coach.I really do.
49:50Now, is he a good head coach for how things went down in Miami?Yeah, I don't know how much blame is exactly on him.But in terms of, like, being an offensive coach, I think that he would be, I think that hewould be a great candidate, which sort of, you know, I know we're kind of bouncing around here.So Tyler, our producer, apologies for this.Can we talk offensive philosophy while we're talking about head coaches?Because I had this separate and we were going to talk about this after,but I think it's good to bring up this conversation now.
50:17So I looked up some numbers for Cam Ward specifically because I wanted to talk about anoffensive philosophy that I would like for the Miami Dolphins,the Tennessee Titans to sort of have with Cam Ward.If the whole idea is building around Ward, then let's look at what made him successfullast year at Miami and why you took him number one overall.And I've got some PFF numbers for you guys and sort of can explain these and get to what I want to talk about and sort of the maybe ideal offense that you might be able to set him up for next season.So Cam's overall passing grade when he was at Miami last year was a 91.7, okay?From 11 personnel, which is three wide receivers on the field, that's just one running back, one tight end, three wide receivers.
51:00He had a 92.2 passing grade.So even better than the overall in 12 personnel, so a little bit heavier, two tight ends.one running back, it went down a little bit to an 82.1, okay, so he likes more wide receiverson the field. That's where he was more successful. We often talk about, hey, play action, play action,get play action involved. Cam Ward's passing grade with play action was actually worse than it waswithout it. Cam Ward's passing grade with play action was an 81.8. And for non-play actionplays, when he could just snap the football, hold the football, and scan the field as a truedropback passer, 91.8. From an art.
51:38RPO perspective. When he was an RPO quarterback, the passing grade went down to a 73.1.Okay, well, he doesn't want to muddy any of his, any of his ability to see the field that way either.Well, how about under center? Well, under center, he had a 69.2 passing grade and a shotgun grade of a 91.6.So what do all those numbers tell us, Connor? They tell us that Cam Ward wants to be a spreaded out shotgun pocket passer who has the opportunity to read thefield and trust his view of the field and his playmaking ability that way. He doesn't wantRPO. He doesn't want play action. He doesn't want to be under center. He wants to stand back therein shotgun. He wants to get the snap. He wants to have multiple wide receivers to be able to consideroptions in the progression. He wants to read the defense and he wants to be able to hold the ball
52:28and make a play. That's what I would love to see the Titans do and really lean into next year.Is that sort of an offense? Now, you have to be able to evolve.beyond that. Cam Ward has to be able to evolve beyond that. But for an offensive philosophyfrom a passing standpoint, that's the type of offense I would love to see him in. And the run gamewe'll get to in a second. But specifically, like, I think Mike McDaniel as an offensecoordinator could be excellent in that regard for somebody who is just really scanning thefield and being able to point shoot with a lot of receiving options out there. Yeah, I thinkthe problem with that is you nailed it at the end where you got to evolve.
53:08like it's he is very good at that but he does need to grow into working a little bit moreunder center getting that play action run game going he has such a good arm that you would thinkif they can get a little bit more under center and run play action you get the linebackersto step forward he's somebody that can rip the ball in the intermediate part of the fieldso there definitely needs to be a balance but i know exactly what you're saying and he's somebodythat can, you know, kind of reset the pocket and make incredible plays on the move.So that 11 personnel will kind of aid to that as well.So Tyler is saying that this is Callahan's offense that you guys are describing, by the way.
53:50And I agree.They did run a lot of this stuff.Yeah.But it just clearly was not as successful.Like the right guy was not in his ear to get him to really evolve and take that next step.Now, they don't.They don't have the playmakers to do that right now.No, they don't.
54:05They don't.It's true.I think they have a nice.group of wide receiver two wide receiver three wide receiver four but we'll get to the fact thati just i don't think that they have a wide receiver one on this team right now charlie johansson'ssaying like cliff kingsbury this kind of sounds like cliff kingsbury and you're right likeif kingsbury could potentially be an option for them if they want to continue to lean into thisformat of an offense now when you look at the rest of the offensive philosophy for this team
54:28specifically rushing i don't really think matters too much i looked up these numbers just soKyle could have them so you guys could see him.But when it came to zone blocking schemes and man and gap blocking schemes,they're basically the same.They're better with power concepts with man and gap blocking run concepts,but it really isn't much there.But for the offensive line specifically, I look this up.So Skoronski, Danmore Jr., Oliudo, and Kevin Zitler,
54:59they are better at zone blocking concepts,while Latham has been much better at man and gaps in blocking concepts in the run game.Now, it's very interesting because those guys are better at zone blocking this year,but Dan Moore has been shaky his whole career.I mean, it's why we question the contract that he got in free agency.But Cush and Berry has had years in the past, specifically with Denver,where he has graded well in more.so he has the ability to do it and Peter Scoronsky has as well so in my opinion
55:38I think this team should lean more intolean into what J.C. Latham does well because I think Peter Scoronsky can do it well I thinkthat Lloyd Cushenberry can do it well Dan Moore Jr. might kind of struggle with it no matter whatbecause he kind of has throughout his career but then you can draft another offensivelineman who is more of that power type of offensive lineman.And when you have that bigger size to you, hopefully that allows you to mitigatepower with five, maybe an extra six blocker for a tight end, but the rest of it is justreceivers, where you're really spreading it out and you're letting Kim Ward have multiple
56:17guys that he could throw to.So the offensive philosophy that I like is them actually leaning more into that powerrun game with the offensive linemen that we think are going to be on this team moving forward.mainly Skoronsky, Lloyd Cushingberry, and then J.C. Latham.And it's going to be interesting to kind of see after the free agency period what the draft presents us to this regard as well,because I wouldn't entirely rule out adding an offensive lineman, obviously, through the drafts that we do for three rounds.Or maybe the chat will want to add one.That's true. Good.
56:52Offensive and defensive.Although I have a free agent idea.Okay.we'll get to that we'll get to that in a second um all people are saying that if i yeah youryour mic a couple of times your mic a couple times kind of maybe i can adjust it if it's up heremaybe the maybe somebody said unplug the microwave and then plug it back in i think they meantmicrophone or just no do this put your microphone in the microwave for 30 seconds and see if thatfixes it when you're a kid did you ever put something in the microwave that
57:26that you're not supposed to and it exploded uh are you talking like a burrito like what do youlike you know like you just learn the hard way what you can and can't do no but i but no butthat sounds like you have a specific example i can't remember i've definitely done it though beforelike even when you're like really young you don't realize that like liquids can't go in the microwavetoo long like you like you could just bubble up and start exploding everywhere that's very true that's verytrue. Yeah. SoPetershort round goes, what is
58:02Connor about to confess? Yeah,that's what I have a great story.I don't. I didn't put a fork in there,Jonesy. I didn't do that.One thing that was sold to me at a very young agewas no metal utensils go inthe microwave. I didn't do that.No.
58:21Really quick.Let's get to some coordinated candidatesthat I just had that I want torun through. This all obviously depends on whoever the head coach is. And to be honest,the offensive philosophy that we were talking about kind of depends on what the head coach wantsas well. But some offensive coordinator candidates, Josh McCown right now, he's the VikingsQB coach. I think he could be next in line. Davis Webb, Broncos quarterback coach. He was highlythought of as maybe a potential sneaky head coaching candidate last cycle. So shouting him out
58:49here. Bobby Sloick, he's the dolphin shot asking coordinator. That's Josh McCown. What do you mean?Well, I know who it is.He's looking at us like something that smells.Yeah, it does.It's whatever you put in the microwave.Yeah, whatever you left in there for eight minutes.Man, how quickly things change that David Blow is already on a staff?Yeah, dude, Thad Lewis.
59:11You remember him?Madden legend.All these guys, Davis.That's Webb.Buck's QB coach.It's crazy.I mean, I feel like David Blow was playing on Thanksgiving two years ago.He might have been.
59:22Yeah.He might still.This Thanksgiving.Screw it.You don't know what's going to happen.I'm going out there.I just realized that in my sheet, I abbreviated assistant to just ASS with a dot.So I'm glad that Tyler adjusted this on the fly so it didn't say commanders ass QV coach.
59:43That would have been, that should have been left in.That would have been legendary.Oh, man.It's good that we have like the youngest one of us three is the adult in the room and Tyler.Yeah, thank you, Tyler.We appreciate it.And then defensive coordinator candidate is Christian Parker, the Eagles DB coach, the Eagles DBgroup, hell of a group. I think he's going to get some looks. And he was talked about this summer
01:00:03as somebody who is sort of an up-and-coming assistant, Aubrey Pleasant as well, the Rams assistanthead coach, their DB coach. He's been getting some shoutouts to. So those are just some names.We don't have a lot to say on them. It's more of just like, hey, we're throwing these out there to you guys.So you're familiar with them. And at least you've heard some of the names here.I think my take is, though, of it. Say you hire a.of like a young offensive coordinatorthat's never been a head coach before.Can you try to find maybe an experienced DC?
01:00:31I always loved that setup.I thought it was something that McVeigh did a really good job ofwhen he had Wade Phillips.You know, it just allows you once againto focus on your calling card of what makes you greatwhen you have somebody that can control.Like Brian Daibel did this when he got the Giants jobwhen he had Wink Martindale.
01:00:51He was like, I have an experienced defense coordinatorthat can run that room, lead that room, allow me to focus on the offense.And before they completely butted heads and Dable butts heads with everybody,it worked really well, honestly, for a bit there.So that would kind of just be my main philosophy rather than just going over the names.Is my mic still terrible?No, you sound fine.Oh, okay, all right, because people are still going with the mic,
01:01:12and I just want to know if I actually have to unplug it or plug in the microwave.I don't know which one it is at this point.That's going to help.How about a Felipe Franks mentioned in the chat?Hold on.Toast production says Connor doesn't wash his hands.finally no that's that's this not true finally it's not sure at all i'm vindicated we're beingmixed up again no i'm released no i'm released from this prison now it's what did i do to you
01:01:34toast productions are you wearing a browns baker mayfield jersey am i no toast productions yeahno it looks like it yeah that's that and he's on he's on hockey rink yeah a vintage baker mayfieldjersey it's incredible yeah we love to see that man browns should have kept that guyYeah, I agree. Connor puts a fork in the outlet. Yeah, I agree.I might try it.The jets go 0 in 10. Oh, and 10. I might do it.You might need to watch the live stream that week.Yeah, yeah, yeah. All right. So,
01:02:06fixing the jets. Before I do that, watch me stick this fork in the outlet behind me.Just so I don't have to do this two hour exercise. Screw you guys.All right. The next step is what I think everybody watched the show for.We're getting into team needs. We're going to do a free agency play.then we're going to talk about roster cuts, some of the cornerstone guys.We'll talk about some guys that we want them to sign or trade for,and then we'll get into the mock trap.Before we do that, parenting folks,
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01:03:39The portfolios are managed by Fort Washington Investment Advice Incorporated.Additional services provided by a pay-coigne corporation.All investing is subject to risk.You can learn more at meatfabric.com.All right, Connor.team needs i got offensive tackle simply because i don't know if latham's a long-termoffensive tackle when it comes to the past pro that we've seen from him so you might movethem to guard and get a new tackle yeah and i also think that you should just look to upgrade from
01:04:10dan more to be honest with you so like i think i think that one they're just you look at that moneyfor at least next year it just is what it is like it i think it does not hurt for you to draft thetackle. I totally agree.If Latham plays out the rest of theseason and he's not going to. Boy, boy, do I havea solution here.Who, what?Or are we getting to it? No, no, no, no, no, no.
01:04:33I don't want to jump to free agency.Okay, okay, okay. Yeah, I'm just getting excited.I have offensive tackle. I guessthis should say offensive tackle slashinterior offensive line. Because ifLathen's good at tackle,you're probably looking to sign or draftthe guard. Yep. But if you're kicking
01:04:48Latham inside, you're looking to draft an offense tackle.So those should probably say offense tackle slash interior offensive line.Wide receiver, you mentioned they got to get a lot better at wide receiver.They need a wide receiver one specifically.Yep.And we'll get to the Calvin Ridley part in the second.Corner, because I think this cornerback room is going to be completely different a year from now.And specifically, and two years from now too.
01:05:12And then edge rusher.I think that they really need a difference making edge rusher after not having Harold Landry anymore on the team.But I'd love to hear from you guys as well.fire off what you think the main needs are for the Titans.Connor, what do you think?Well, I feel pretty confident I can get Cam Ward's number one wide receiver in thedraft.And they already have, uh, there's a Xavier, reshap.
01:05:37He's still hanging around that practice squad, right?He is.He is.He's employed.Good for him.He's employed.Those are good checks.Yeah, there he is.
01:05:45Practice squad.There he is.There he is.I got it open.him and James Prochayeating up all those practice squad repsJames Prochet's on this teamhe's on the practice squad
01:05:56yeah Jacksaid wait isn't Callahan one of the bestO line coaches why is it so badit iseverybody man I have no ideawell Bill Calahan isregarded asyou know the best offensive line coach
01:06:15of this era or at least in the conversationthe problemis father time catches up to everybody man like he's 69 years old nice um it's didn't miss abeat with it it feels like their evaluations didn't match the coaching and this isn't hindsightfor me i thought latham was an overdraft i thought dan more was an overpay like and we'll seethere's a lot of time left but i don't you you can't always out coach your aevaluation mistakes.Sometimes you can, but not always.
01:06:54Not always.Anything else that you would want to add to that list?No, I think this is the exact.I mean, honestly, yeah, I don't mind taking a running back at some point.Sure.Okay.I could, we could definitely throw running back in there.I could, I could absolutely get to that.
01:07:13So, thank you.Where did I, uh, here, press, press,goes real talk how does father time catch up to you as a coach do you get dumb when you turn 65dude guys age out all the time bill bellichick right now looks and i get it's a change in levelbut like coaches coaches expire in this league not all of them p carroll is getting lapped right nowweek after week uh yeah unfortunately true the game change the game changes all the timeUnfortunately true.Yeah.
01:07:51Rex Ryan was a defensive mastermind.He's been out of the NFL for, what, a decade?He's a defensive mastermind.Is that a him thing, though?I feel like that's more of a him thing.He got Rex Ryan for the Titans?But people had caught up to him by the end.Like in 2009, 2010, the Jets defense was cinema
01:08:15with how bad their past game was the way the defense needed to play.And then you started to see him get figured out, especially in 2012 and 2013.But, yeah, guys, yeah.No, Rex, you'd have another chance.I would love Rex back in the league, man.I think he needs another chance.Yeah, it's probably time.I think he needs another chance.
01:08:35Okay, so this is who I have is the cornerstone players for this team, okay?Who they're going to build around?Cam, Skoronsky, Latham,And I genuinely think I-O. Manor, D.K. and Helm are sort of those.Now, obviously, I'm not going to call them like all-stars, but like, I think those guys are on the team.That's what I would have from the offensive side. Is there anybody else that you would throw out there?Dan Moore Jr., because of the contract, sure. But I don't view him as a cornerstone player for this organization.Yeah, I have the power to draft his replacement for sure. Yes. Yes. So that's what I have on offense.
01:09:18I'm with you.Okay. And then on defense, Easton told me when I was talking to him, because I wondered if Jeffrey Simmons was a potential, like, sell player for them.Yeah. And his words exactly to me were they would rather fold the franchise than trade Jeffrey Simmons. And I said, okay.And that's that. That's all you didn't know. So Jeffrey Simmons, he says that they really like Oladejo, drafted in the second round.Yeah, I hope so.Yeah, is what it is.Cedric Gray, I think, is their inside linebacker of the future.I think they'll stick to a three, four defense.
01:09:55It would be kind of weird for them to move with both sweat and Simmons.I guess they could move to an even front,but it feels like a lot of the rest of what they have there is built for that odd front defense.So I think they're going to stay an odd front,and I think that Cedric Gray is going to continue to man one of those inside linebacker spots.Ammani Hooker.And then Eric Winston, Jr.Kevin Winston, yeah.
01:10:22Sorry, yeah, Kevin Winston, Jr.So I think that those are the key players on defense.You said sweat, right?I didn't, I didn't say sweat, but I probably should.Yeah, I probably should say sweat.Because at this point in time, they're not moving off from him.He's going to be part of their plans.He's impactful when he's out there.
01:10:42I don't, I just, the reason why I was lower on Tavandre sweat,Like, I've just, the availability part, the consistency part,I've always been a little bit lower on him than most people.But for this exercise, we should put Devandre sweat there.I would agree.Did you say Roger McCreary?You're like, where do we stand with him?No.
01:10:59So Roger McCreary is a good way to bring in the slide that's currently on the screen here.And that is the fact that he is a free agent.Yeah, I know.I know what you mean.I don't think they'll bring him back, unless I'm way off on.this i just i feel like he's been up and down to the point where you could replace him rightespecially with whoever's going to come in there next and and maybe change the defense around so iif he was under contract still i'd probably say yeah yeah he's fine they're not like going to move on
01:11:34from right right right it's different with him being a free agent i don't i don't know if theybring him back okay yeah makes sense how about the uh cap casualties for this teamSo, first and foremost, they have $123 million to spend projected.That's the most in the NFL.And the guys who are free agents for them, I mentioned McCreary, but it's Jalen Armored Davis, the other corner, Oliudo, their offensive tackle,Guandre Diggs, Van Jefferson, Tyler Lockett, Sebastian Joseph Day, Chigua, who I think they could bring back, Arden Key and Draymont Jones, who you could, but it depends, it depends who the,next defense coordinator is going to be, in my opinion.And then Kevin Zitler, I mean, he's just getting up there in age anyways.
01:12:21But they, Easton told me that they like Jackson Slater, who could be the guard to take over for Kevin Zitler if they're not able to draft anybody.So those are their free agents coming up for 2020.It's just a take 2026.I messed that up saying 2025.But the cap casualties are the guys that I think that they could cut.Legerius needed Calvin Ridley.I genuinely think both of these guys won't be on the Titans next year.Big moves from previous regimes that it's, it's time to go.
01:12:49Legerius needs, he'll be 29 years old next year.He's 20 mil on the debt on the cap for 2026.You save another 11.9 million by cutting him pre-June 1.And if you designate him as a post-June 1 cut, because remember, you get two of these.Yeah.He gets 60, you get 16 million of cap savings.And then Calvin Ridley, Ridley will be 32.He's 26.7 million on the cap next year.
01:13:14You save 13.7 if you cut them pre-June 1,18.7 if you cut them post-June 1.I think both those guys are off the roster.And I think that the Titans will have $155 million to operate withbefore signing their own guysand then also going to get some other players.What do you think?I think it's great.
01:13:37They can pretty much go out in the market and do whatever they want.And there's a guy at the top of the list.there that going back to the conversation where you said this team either needs a tackle orguard, why don't you get a guy that's played both at a high level and Elijah Vera Tucker?I'm with you, dude.And I understand that he's hurt a lot.I really believe it's been bad luck his injuries.I don't watch him play and think that he's fragile.
01:14:07I think he's just had some bad luck.And when he plays, he is literally an above average guard or tackle.So you go into camp with Elijah Vera TuckerAnd he protects you at two spotsSo this would be by priority signing for the TitansI would agree when I saw Elijah Vera Tucker as the free agentHe is in the tier one listAs you guys can see on the screen right there
01:14:32The other two that I have on the tier one listMeaning the guys that are going to cost the most moneyJalen Phillips and then Trey HendricksonJalen Phillips is obviously trickyBecause he's had the two major injuriesLower Body Injuriesbut that's sort of the same thing with Elijah Vera Tucker.Now, I don't know if you can sign both those guys, right?
01:14:48I don't, with Borganzi coming from the scouting side of things and Brinker as well,I just, I don't know if they're going to want to spend a lot of money on guys who are hurt.Specifically, Elijah Vera Tucker, right?Yeah, you need to be careful of how often you go down that road.So, but I think he's.the right fit for the team.I would agree with you.And I don't think he, I think because of his injuries,
01:15:17it's not going to be like a Robert Turner or, you know, Robert Hunt,I mean, level contract here.Like I, you can go spend in other areas for this team.So that's who I have as the tier one for the tier two guys.I get, so the chat was talking about George Pickens as well.George Pickens is a free agent.Potentially, I suppose.Because Pickens would then be your wide receiver one.
01:15:45So if you're comfortable with it, then maybe, right?It's on the table.He's probably the only one that I would think of.Well, he also is an amazing fit with Cam Ward.When the play goes out of structure, he's a ball winner.George Pickens.Yes.And they kind of have that like a little edge to their personalities
01:16:09that I think would be pretty dynamic to watch.I do too.I don't know. I don't think Dallas is, I think after moving Micah, I think Dallas is goingto keep their guys. I think so too, especially because I think the DAC's going to have an MVPcaliber season because he's certainly well on his way to doing so. And I don't think they'regoing to let Dallas. I don't think Dallas is going to let him go at this point.I think Pickens is perfect for Dallas. So in the tier two, I have Rashid Sheheed.And then I have a couple of tight ends. Dallas got her Kyle Pitts, Dave and Joku, Austin Hooper.
01:16:41I know Austin Hooper's been on the Titans before, so maybe not, and he's a little bit older.But, like, getting another tight end in here as a receiving option to play inline and the slot.That's right.I think would be pretty big for this team.Yeah, because you have Gunner Helm, who's going to be a part of this team.Right.So why don't you go get in Joku to play on the line of scrimmage?Yes.
01:17:03Yes.And that makes that allows Gunner Helm to be at his best.And that would kind of get away from what I was talking about of like, hey, less heavier personnel.more 11 personnel stuff, but you also might have to play the offseason the way it comes to you.And I wonder if just one of more of those receiving tight ends would be great for you in the end.So I have those guys on there.Devante Wyatt, I have as a potential, you know, defensive linemen to bring in because he's a free agent,although you have sweat, you have Simmons, do you feel like it's overkill?
01:17:33Maybe you don't.Like if you're, if you are running a odd front defense and you have Tobondry sweat at the nose,Simmons plays one of the D& spotsand then DeVante Wyatt plays one of the other DN spots.You might be able to,you might be able to feel pretty good about that.But I know that why it's been betteras a three technique defensive tackle
01:17:53in that even front,Jeff Havley scheme.So you take those things to account.But I do like Devante White as a player.So I threw him out there.And then Josh Job,the corner from Seattle is somebody else that I threw out there.Yeah, it goes to show you that
01:18:07I don't know how much star talent is on the defensive side.of the ball in this free agency right it's that's where it's you kind of look at it and you're likeokay Tennessee might with all this money might be better utilizing it on a trade if they canfind one for a player that just needs a payday and the team can't do it because it's it's hardopen market is just not a lot of guys just don't get there anymore unless they have problemstier three free agents that I wrote down DJ Wanam and AJ Epinasa if youyou still need some new bodies at defensive end,like if Arden Key's not going to be there anymore,
01:18:45if you don't resign him,like if you really need somebody to bring in,you can bring him one of those guys.Dennis Gardick's a little bit older,but he could be a little bit of flashy production for you.So maybe he's in that group as well.Cade May is the center slash guard from Carolina.Somebody in the chat was saying,
01:19:01there's no way they let Cade Mays go.Maybe they don't.But Mays absolutely fits what I was talking about before,leaning more into that power run gameas a dude who's 6-5,325 and he has he he he's not grading super well this year in power run blocking concepts buthis best years have come from him in power run blocking concepts so I think he would be likeif you had an offensive line next year for the Titans that was Danmore Jr. Peter Skoronsky
01:19:33Cade Mays no I was going to say Lloyd Cushingberry because he's still there and then Cade Maysplays the guard spot and then Latham's playing a tackle, that's not bad. I'm okay with that.I feel okay with that at that point.Yeah, without the draft, you know, without even mentioning Jackson Slater can be a next man up.I think Alec Pierce could be a nice deep threat for this team. And I think Super Pony in the chat.He's super underrated. Dude, if he goes to a division rival, I'm going to lose it.Yeah, that was a super chat from Super Pony.We feel you, brother.
01:20:11And then I have Roy Lopez on here because Roy Lopez is a free agent,and I'm going to have Roy Lopez on every single one of these lists here.This is the mascot of the show.100%.Yeah.Good point by the chat.The Packers picked up why it's fifth year.Oh, okay.
01:20:24So he's okay.All right, all right.Okay.That's a good shout out.That's a good shout out there.I think it's time.Travis Jones.Maybe Travis Jones.
01:20:35Shouting him out too.All right.Before we get to the mock drafts.Super chats?We got to get the super chats here.Yes.Do a couple of super chats.Which wants to move in?
01:20:46That's where we at.Peter with another $20 super chat.We love you, Peter.You're the man.Harbaugh and Monk into the Titans.If only the Titans had a running back like Derek Henry.Jeez.Ravens 2.0 estimate is available.
01:20:57F at we ball.Yeah, that's great.That's actually.I love that mindset.That's a great mindset.Chad, $10 super chat.Would Mike Tomlin be a trade candidate if Pittsburgh decides tomove on. That's what I want as a Steelers fan.
01:21:12Man, savage.I don't.It just feels like it's never going to happen at this point.If Pittsburgh told Mike Tomlin they were done with him, do you think he would retire?No.You think he'd go somewhere else?He'd have a job that week.No, no, no. It's not that he wouldn't have a job.
01:21:31No, no, no. But I think, like, I don't, Tomlin, I assume, would be very good at media, but I don't think he wants to do that right now.no no he's just been obviously been coaching for a long time so does he go like all right welli'm just going to be a stealer for life and i'm going to keep my legacy maybe not no i don'tthink they do it though i think he'd do it somewhere how many episodes uh are going to be spenton fixing the jets peter could fund a netflix documentary on it it's very true it's very truewe'll have netflix get in contact with peter and and we'll get some we'll work out our partnershipswe'll get yeah matthew yeah for the super chat here's 17 dollars plusFor the 17 years of being a Jets fan, 17 seasons of year-round draft coverage and Sunday is going, oh, dear, Neptune, like a miss puff.
01:22:17Shout out to you, Matthew.That's an amazing super cat.I love that.That is a great super chat.Phenomenal.Okay.Liam said Tomlin likes tight ends.He could go to Florida.
01:22:28Calm down, people.Not, no, look.Florida head coach Mike Tomlin.Billy Napier is not my head coach anymore.You guys can't hurt me.You guys cannot hurt me.is it the moment everybody's been waiting for so do we want to uh do we want to sort of set this up before we go into the mock draft like who you want them to like are we saying hey they're let's sign a bt you know what i'm saying like oh yeah i know what you get abt i i think we talk through that as we do the picks like hey we could do this assuming we signed blah blah blah all right let's do it let's fire out the mock draft simulator all right here we go do it to it's get into it's get into it folksIf you're watching the show, don't go anywhere because your three-round mock draft of the people is coming up next.
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01:23:35So, all right.pick up for the Tennessee Titans currently drafting number four overall we're doing a three round mock draftwe talked about the core players uh who do you want to sign his head coach as a head coachdo we have to make a decision there i feel like we got to make a decision yeah i wanti want you to be like i kind of want you to be the 51% here because i feel like i'm prettyout there with that pick i just don't think that he's going to geta run.Yeah, it kind of feels like it would have happened, right?
01:24:09You know that this podcast loves Todd Munkin, and I would have liked for him to geta head coach, but at this point in time, the Ravens are having a really bad year,so I don't think that he's going to get it.Can I get?Well, and we can't do coaches that haven't been fired yet, right?I feel like that's just kind of a stretch.Yeah, who would you do?I want the hardball of Mike McDaniel.
01:24:34Well, that's the dream.Yeah, but that's the point of the show.The teams that we fix stink.This is the only hope that these people have.All right, fine.I don't care.John Harbaugh is the head coach.Mike McDaniel is the offensive coordinator.
01:24:55I don't care who's defensive coordinator.Me and you.It doesn't matter at that point with a coaching staff like that.All right.So the dream coaching staff is John Harbaugh and Mike McDaniel is the offensive coordinator.and then maybe a slightly more realistic is,I will say Joe Brady.Yeah, I think, no, I'm with you like a Joe Brady
01:25:13Clint Kubiak level higher.Yeah.All right.Okay.So that's, all right.So let's get into it.Tyler, let's fire it up.Enter draft.
01:25:25I would have got here.Let's see what the Jets do at one.What did the Jets do at one?Ruben Bade.I love Ruben.Bain, but it'd be so funny if the Jets roll out, like Brady Cook, UDFA quarterback next year.But we got Ruben Bain on defense.No, Ruben Bain's playing quarterback for how well he played defense.
01:25:46He's master defense.Now he's going to the, uh, that's going to the other side of the ball.You thought Travis Hunter was good.Watch what we do with Ruben Bain.Tush, push every play.And he rushes the passer.Uh, flat in the chat said, who said the show, isn't realistic.Yeah, that's a great point.
01:26:02Great point.All right.what the options here i mean i know arker oh no what yeah Tyson went too what the hellyeah it's the show's ruined this is all a waste this is a giant waste of an hour and 27minutes Jordan Tyson's gone that was my whole that was your whole that was your whole that was yourwhole pitch that was my entire plan that was your whole pitch that was my entire i have a giant whiteboardwith a curtain and they walk in amy adam strunk walks in i go nice to meet you mrs strunk you're neverjust take a seat this is where this is going to be a while and then i pull the curtain and just says
01:26:49jordan dyson and four what do you thinkif he goes in the first three picks and I just freeze and run out of the room and then and then you say then we just restart the simulator yeah yeah just it's a mock draft simulator I just refresh then we're just then we're just restarting the simulator okay um Tyler I am actually gonna have you restart this oh my god he's doing it because I actually do want this plan because I do kind of think it makes the most sense for the Titans um and somebody in the chat who's in my now you're good Tyler you can just enter it umsomebody said somebody was like please please let miami get someone other than a wide receiverokay it was also just stupid that's the thing yeah uh hit hit start start draftjordan tyson went number one overall this time no i'm just kiddingdolphins fans you thought it couldn't get worse with a wide receiver at twowell you get caleb downs at two get ready to learn safety in the top two pick buddy uhI think Jordan Tyson would be awesome for Cam Ward.
01:28:01A hundred percent.I don't really think there's an offensive tackle that would, that would tempt us here for or anything there.I agree with you.I think that this, this Tyson plan is a really good one and we should explore it.Brian Callahan didn't get redos.Yeah, we do.And that's why we're still, that's why we're still right here.Right.
01:28:23Because we have control.You notice, you notice our regime lasted longer than Brian Callahan.Callahan.Well, now it's now it's in theory.Yeah, NFL Stock Exchange has been around for four years.Brian Callahan got a season and a half.It's actually a great point.And yeah, this is, this is why.
01:28:39Okay, let's take Jordan Tyson at number four.And the Titans have all three of their selections here.The first round, the second round, and the third round.So, okay, we're in the second round.We've got Jordan Tyson.So that means that our wide receiver room right now is Jordan Tyson,Elyle-Ele-Mayr, D-K,we have Gunner Helmutt tight-end.
01:29:01We're maybe bringing in another tight-end as well.I think David and Joku should be a serious consideration.Okay, let's say that we've got David and Joku as well.That's a really, really solid, I think,group of receivers to be able to throw the ball to.I think you feel pretty decent about that.So here in the second round,what are we looking at here?
01:29:24Let me make this a full screenAll rightSo we know they're going to need a body at cornerHopefully that can playWe're open to the offensive lineSomebody said NFL EC for coached the yearYeah there you goStart telling people
01:29:40You know ballYeah startGet us on the draft kings boardYeahAJ Harris still there is nice TrevI knowI know I justThey're going to need a corner, aren't they?
01:29:57Yeah.They're really going to need a corner.Lomu is there.Tiernan is there.Isaiah World is there.I mean,what pass rushes do we have?We've got to get better at pass rush.
01:30:12What edge rushers?I was just about to bring up Quincy Rhodes.I think that we've got to takeone of Quincy Rhodes Jr. or Joshua Joseph.I'm with you.Rhodes is just so interesting because of his sizethat you can kind of move him up and down the line a little bit.Yeah.
01:30:30I really like the versatility that you get with him.So let's say that we're signing Elijah Vera Tucker,so our offensive line's pretty set.And then I do, let's get Quincy Rhodes Jr. from Arkansas.Okay.because then we brought in Dave and Joku from the tier two.We didn't really spend on defense.There wasn't a lot out there.
01:31:00No,I think that they,I think they could get some,like,defensive help,like whether it's like a,again,like a DJ Wanam or,
01:31:09uh,who is the other one that,like Dennis Gardick was on there.Yeah.J.Penaena was on there.You can get some depth,but if you get Quincy Road Jr.
01:31:17from Arkansas who,man,uh,Tyler,can you,can you go and,scroll back and just click Quincy,Quincy Rhodes Jr.'s name, just so everybody can
01:31:25see. I mean, this dudehas been an animal this season. He ismassive, too. He's like 6'5,270, 275 pounds. I mean,he is a big dudewho's got tons of length. He can win with power.He's got some great, he's got a great firststep to him.
01:31:41I think that he is, he'screeping his way into that first round conversation.He definitely is. So to gethim at that point,I feel pretty good about that.So who is still on the board here?I kind of want to look at Corner.AJ Harris was on the board.
01:31:58Oh, he was still there?Yeah, yeah, that's what I said to you.No, no, no, no, now.No, no, no, no, no, we got to look.No, we don't, we don't live in the past, Conner.We don't live in the past.I mean, your boy is here.My boy is here, but that's a medical one.
01:32:17Yeah, but what's he got, what's up with him?I mean, you know college injury.dude they tell you like i'm basically asking me if it's long term or not no i don't think so i thinkhe's just been out for the season so i think he's so i think we can take zavier scott here i wouldi would take i would be okay with zavier scott d'angelo ponds yeah or malik mohammed tobe honest with you i'd be i'd be okay with any of these three guys and i think that this is apretty killer draft for them it just dependsLet's see
01:32:53Titans depth chartI just want to make sure I'm not like forgetting anybodySo they have Jalen Armour DavisHe's a free agent again Roger McCreary is a free agentLegerious Sneed they're going to move on from himThey need anybodyNow they will sign some sort of veteran cornersRight
01:33:14I think it might be easier to findCan you click on a pond?Ponce, Tyler.What's, what's Ponce height?He's got to be smaller, right?He's smaller.Listed 5-9.He looks, he looks 5-8, 5-9.
01:33:31Yeah, by the way, Conard, did you see the Conner Lou injury?No, how significant is it?Or is A.C. out for the year.Oh.God, so he can he return, can he?He's only a true junior.Yeah, that's what I thought.All right, so that takes probably him out of the draft.
01:33:49Yeah, he's probably out of the draft.That's a shame.We've had some really bad injuries to big prospects this year.Yeah.Dude, D'Angelo Ponds is so sick, though.He's awesome, but, man.He's small.He's listed, 5-9173.
01:34:06Yeah, but he's awesome.He is.I think you can get him on day three.All right, I'll let you pick here.I'm going to take Xavier Scott because I think the talent in the third round is too good.Okay.All right, we'll take Xavier Scott.So that means that after one redo, our...
01:34:21Hall for the Tennessee Titans was signing Elijah Vera Tucker, signing David Njoku,getting some sort of defensive line depth and corner depth in like the tier three lowersort of free agency guys that were bringing in, and then drafting Jordan Tyson, Quincy Rhodes Jr., Xavier Scott.That's pretty damn good to me. I feel pretty damn good about what we're doing moving forward there.Now, running back, obviously we didn't address it here. I don't think you,have to at that point.I don't know if you want to force it.And the run game, I think there's a lot of running backs out there where you could even
01:34:58get some running backs in the fourth and fifth round that maybe you feel pretty good aboutit.Of course.So two F picks,it checks out for this franchise.I'm not so sure.I'm not sure why the Rhodes pick and the Scott pick are getting Fs.I think I have to look into why that would be the case because it shouldn't be like that
01:35:21for the time.Fucking Mike McCarthy strikes again.Dude, I don't, I got to talk to Mike.I'm down here in the basement.Mike's in the other room.I'm going to, I'm going to, you know what, I'm going to go talk to him.You, you set it up, you set it up, you set it up with everybody else for, uh, for, for, for the people's mock draft.Just go ahead.
01:35:36I'm going to, I'm going to go talk to.Please have a chat with Mr. Mike McCarthy.All right.So it's now time for the people's mock draft.This is not only a good time to see if you guys could do better than this.And yeah, we had a restart.So it's a little bit of cheating.But this is our first fix your franchise of the year.
01:35:51But I'm very curious if the people, I have a feeling the consensus will be similar in round one that they'll like the wide receivers.Or if the chat wants to come up with some wild trade to get out of the pick, how did Mike respond?Yeah, I mean, he wasn't happy about it.You know, it's like, you know, you know, when you send food back and then, you know, the kitchen's obviously just pretty pissed about it.That's pretty, that's kind of what we had here.But I just told him, I'm like, Mike, we can't be doing it.this you know we can't be serving runny eggs we just can't not from this kitchen so he said he'llbe better about it so we'll we'll get it there he might be coaching this team all right this is the
01:36:33people's mock draft we have not done this here before you guys are doing this for the first timehere live we're going to start this mock draft Tyler go ahead and start it just so they can seewho's on the board here uh I don't who got picked Jordan Tyson too again well this is good becausethen it can't be the same that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that'sThat's also, that's also good.Okay, all right, people.All right, people.We need to hear from you.
01:36:57It's your ghost restart.Somebody said Diego Pavia.Okay, should we give them, we should give them three options, right?Yes, to pick from.Well, I also said when you were gone that I want to give them the chance to trade out if they want.Oh.Okay.All right.
01:37:19So the options, I think, for the people.people are tj parker jeremiah love yeah sure carnell tate trade down it's going to be tradethe choice is yours people i don't uh tyler can we do polls can we do like polls in herei don't even know if we can do that i am the poll just tracking the responses yeahwhich is like an absolute machineit's tradeoh people are people areuh won arville rice
01:37:59as well i mean arvo ricesome monsterokay a lot of people are saying tradeall rightso somebodyso somebody would come up for fernando mendozayep who's going to come up forfernando mendoza
01:38:13the raidersyesexactly rightokay all right let's let's let's make itlet's make a deal with the Raiders.What's it going to take here?So seven?Yeah, seven and four, obviously.
01:38:27And then what?I got to have 39.Oh, okay.You want 39 in it?Yeah, and then can we?Yeah, there's got to be something else, right?I don't know at the top of my head.Hold on.
01:38:49Is it more skewed?It's four, what are we going, four to seven?Yeah, four to seven.That's 300 points.So 39 is actually 500 points.So that'd be a little bit of an oversell, but it's for a quarterback.But it's for a quarterback in the top five.So let's see it.
01:39:06Right.Okay, just do 39 then.Yep.Just do 39.Which if you're the Titans, great.I'm going to get a player I really like and I get another top 40 pick.Okay, Jeremiah Love, Arville Reese.Jermon McCoy
01:39:23those are your three options I thinkI meanyeah let's seeCan you scroll down a little bit TylerYou should give thema Carnell Tate as wellOh yeah yeah Tate Tate as wellTate is still there I forgot
01:39:36Which is the boats are flying inWell I'm not letting you trade down againI'm not letting you trade downNo I'm not letting you guys trade downGet everythingI think it's going to be Arvel ReeseIs it?Yeah it's Arvill Reese by like a nice little margin
01:39:50carnell tate is the runner up right now okay carnell tate is making a late push uh tate isarnold tate is now the favorite cornell tate oh man it's carnell tate a lot of people are sayingtate it's tate he totally took the took the race over yeah it's tate wow wow we're goingcarnell tate hooper it says the phone is ringing off the hook for a trade down i'm not trading downagain you don't have that option do that we have to eat dinner at some pointYeah, we do. Okay, Carnell Tate, number seven overall.So now we got two second round picks here.So are we saying that they're going with the same free agent strategy?
01:40:31So you guys have, you guys have ABT, you have David & Joku,and then you have like a couple of, you know,like defensive depth guys that you're bringing in.So you're probably looking to beef up your defense with these picks.All right.So we're looking at Joshua Joseph,AJ HarrisMateo, I guess.
01:40:55Yep.And keep going down, Tyler, a little bit more.Hmm.I mean, yeah.Who would the other be?I mean, can you throw Caleb Lamu into this, though?I guess so.It's for the chat.
01:41:16Yeah, for Lomu.Caleb Lomo is on this as wellPeople are saying StilesWould they takeI guess him and Cedric GrayJust wreaking havocI guess that would be pretty sickOkay so can you scroll up again Tyler
01:41:30Sorry about thisAll right Sony StilesJoshua JosephAJ HarrisCaleb LomoIt's gonna be Harris it looks likeAlthough it's pretty evenGuys Arvel Reese is not on the board
01:41:43Arvel Reese is not on the board folksYou're not Alfred Collins this thing againAlphrey Collins. There you go, Bork. Appreciate it. Thank you. Kenny said Lammu's going to go earlier than you guys. Maybe. I agree with you, Kenny.He could tackle with traits and size. Yeah, it's not crazy. It's just we serve the mock draft simulator.Is Harris the? It's kind of a tie right now. I feel like I'm seeing mostly here.I'm going to go with the next chat. And we're not getting it's all. It's all non.nonsense.Alfred Collins.
01:42:19I think,I think,let's go AJ Harris.I think the,I think most of the people said AJ Harris.Yep.Okay,let's go AJ Harris.
01:42:26And then we're picking right after that as well.So damn,yeah, Joshua Joseph,Sony Stiles,Mateo,and Lomo.Stiles was the runner up to Harris,so I think he's the pick.
01:42:37Was he?Okay.Yeah.Okay.Then Stiles.Let's do styles there.I mean,this is kind of sick.
01:42:44The trade down,I think,is way sicker.Yeah.is all right so jake slaughter i don't actually hate here for you guys becausecushionberry is obviously there next year i think no guarantee he's there beyond 2026 i believebut you could go you could go corner again here at number what are we at 68 68's the numberhere so i'm going to go i'm going to give you guys a choice of jake slaughter
01:43:15Keith AbneyHell yeahCan we see the running backsDeAngelo Ponds and thenD'Angelo Ponds and thenPrice is sickYou think he's going to go 68 thoughI'm telling you he is so much better than everyone realizes
01:43:35he's just blocked by Jeremiah LoveOkayPeople are people areI know it's early I know this is earlyKelling for big citrus butDo we think they do?do it. Okay, all right there. All right. Here's the four. Here's the four.Jake Slaughter, Keith Abney, Judarian Price, running back from Notre Dame, and Big Citrus.
01:44:00You guys get to choose. Those are your four. Probably. What would you pick, Trevor? I think I'd takeAbney. I think I would also take Abney. Yeah, I'd go to you. You'd be so silly at Corner.Yeah. You'd feel really good about the youth that you have a corner. And like two,you know two rookie corners would be tough but uh man that's so fun to have harrison abney asrookies in camp all right i think are we going to take abney abney got a lot of early votes wehad one late vote for slaughter shout out to alfie who keeps saying jacob rodriguez ishe's a lot of fun to watch no i gave you guys i gave you guys orange but yeahOrange is on the board. It's just a matter of, you know, do you feel like you need him when you have sweat?
01:44:51There's so much big citrus love. I think we just go with the big man. He won the vote. This is the, not our mock draft. This is very true. This is very true. All right, Big Citrus. Dominic Orange. There it is. There it is.So for the people's mock draft. We have a trade down. You got, look at it A minus. You guys nailed it. Mike McCarthy is applauding from the PFF offices right now.Yeah. He's just, he's, he's doing this despite me. So you.He's like Connor and Trevor idiots.A.J. Harris, Sony Stiles, and Dominique Orange.We went Jordan Tyson.Who was the second pick that we had?Quincy Rhodes.
01:45:27Quincy Rhodes.Who's the-Xavier Scott.Xavier Scott.Totally forgot that.All right.So actually, I think these three-round mock drafts are pretty sick.We should track the results.
01:45:39The chat has, is 1-0 against NFL Stock Exchange right now.In the mock draft competition?By the great.Oh, that's true.That's true.Bork says chat.Can we host a pod?I'll give you 6.5-245.
01:45:53Appreciate everybody watching and listening.It's a lot of fun.Love doing the fixture franchise with you guys here.Taking a deep dive into these teams.It's always a ton of fun.Titans fans, hopefully we did you justice here in trying to fix your team,giving you a background of sort of how we got here,what we think, the coaching candidates,
01:46:09the roster candidates, what we believe the offensive and defensive philosophyshould be, all that great stuff, the free agency plans.but we would love to hear from you guys, Titans fans out there.This is our view of the podcast from outside of being Titans fans and being in Nashvilleand following the team.We would love to hear from you guys.Best way to do that.YouTube.com backslash at NFL Stock Exchange.
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01:46:50anything else before we got out here oh we got some super chats don't we yeah oh i could uh definitelygive the super chat some love on my way out here arlo did we say arlo about naggy naggingnagging would be the ultimate retread i'd hope that doesn't happen to ward traumatized bearsfan here so take that with a pinch of salt i'm with you arlo i would not like that higheruh b yx saints fix your franchise must include replacing micky lumisYeah. I think we'll get there.I think we'll get there.We'll get to the Saints for sure.
01:47:20And I think that wraps up to Super Chats.It does. It does.That wraps up the show as well.Appreciate everybody watching live.We love you guys.Shout out to all the addicts out there.Shout out to our Overlord and our sole sponsor, Peter.We will be back on Wednesday, same time, 4.30 p.m.
01:47:37As always, for another Stockwatch episode.One more super chat.Shout out Connor Long.Our Jets sucks.Hey, Connor Long, my dude.He is a great.Great, great, dude.When will they be on here?
01:47:47You guys are the goats.I think, Trevor, the Jets might be in the next two weeks.Okay.What do you think?Look, they're an interesting team because they're really bad, but they're probably not going to fire their head coach.So I will leave all fix your franchise scheduling authority for the New York Jets to you.Oh, boy.Man.
01:48:13So you will have to stew on.on that for a week and you tell usall right here's the deal if they because the peoplewant it if they lose the Bengals next weekand go into their by week oh and eightwe fix the Jets during their by weekhow's that okayoh and eight going to the by weekend you've lost
01:48:29to the Panthers Bengalsdolphinsand I think we do our classiclike choose your own adventure one where we getthem a new staff one where we build it with the staffwhich is a little faster on everything elsesounds good to me uhDeSar 324 says,
01:48:45Fix your franchise for the Kansas City Chiefs.Enough! Enough!Appreciate you guys for watching.Sickening.Sickening.Be unbelievable.Connor Rogers, I'm Trevor Sikkimus saying.Thank you once again.
01:48:57This has been another edition of the NFL Stock Exchange Show.See you guys on Wednesday.
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