NFL Stock Exchange: An NFL Draft Podcast - Live 7-Round Mock Draft: Part 2, Rounds 2-3
Episode Date: April 20, 2025Part two of Trevor Sikkema and Connor Rogers' FULL 7-Round mock draft marathon. They are joined by Benjamin Solak of ESPN to help complete rounds two and three. ...
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Alright second round second round second round. Second round. Second round.
Going a little bit more. A little bit more rapid fire we said here. Yeah. Hold on. I'm just I'm texting one more
person. We have the Vikings up at number 33. Discuss real
quick. Amen. Worry might be in play here. Yeah, you get a
physical, fast, big, strong safety.
Flores could kind of use them as this chess piece.
It could play downhill, maybe match up with some F tight ends.
Darien Porter getting some love.
I like that just because of the size and speed in that scheme.
At 33, not yet.
No, I'm not. Yeah, not doing that. But
what about defense attack or interior offensive line? Anybody that would tempt you here for them for the guard spot?
I mean, I love Rattlage and I still think he's going at 33. Yeah.
Oh, Jackson, I guess.
Yeah, it is.
I forgot he's listed as a tackle in this system.
Yeah, I think he's a guard all the way.
Yeah, Donovan Jackson for sure would be.
All right, I think that Donovan Jackson's an option.
Let me just double check their line.
Yeah.
There's been some turnover there.
Because they paid Will Fries.
Yeah, Blake Brendel spot is the only one
that they could upgrade there.
Or Jackson's, that's his comfort spot is left guard.
It's not a Jackson, dude.
We're overthinking this.
OK, all right. OK, OK, OK, OK, OK, OK, OK.
All right. Donovan Jackson, New York Giants, New York Giants.
Let's take Milro took a dual Carter.
All Milro top of the second round.
Yeah, let's take Milro.
All right. We're getting Milro off the board. Wait a second.
Oh, we did have we did have a we did have a shooter trade.
What? Wait, hold on. What were you saying?
What were you saying? No, too.
I misread you.
I thought you were going to go, Darts still here.
No, Milro is my QB three. We take Milro here.
All right. So you drafted a dual card or any got jail Milro.
This is actually the one earlier spot.
I really like burden.
Oh, absolutely. Yeah, I really would be excited about burden
in Tennessee with Cam.
Oh, 1000%.
Yeah, I love this pick.
No, I'm totally with you there.
Okay. All right.
Lose the burden going into the Tennessee Titans.
Jacksonville, we took Mason Graham.
We did take Mason Graham.
Yep.
Okay. Golden? Tennessee Titans Jacksonville, we took Mason Graham. We did take Mason Graham. Yep. OK, gold then.
Maybe I also could see them.
Yeah, we're Higgins.
Well, hey, I think Higgins is better, but I think Golden will go before Higgins.
Yeah, I think that we take pro.
I think they would take gold.
Did is Jalen Walker still on the board?
No, we took him eight to the Panthers.
OK, thank you.
It's one of those weird things where because we've had that happen before.
That was scary.
Man's out here panicking.
I actually like really didn't have a little panic attack.
We'd have to restart the drafts ruined safety.
Could you safety?
Because who's it?
Safety because it Kevin Winston, Jr.
See, I mean, I speak for him.
Darno Savage, a bit disappointing for this team, and they signed Eric Murray
to replace Andre Cisco.
Let's just go leave. Yeah.
My only thing is.
Well, I guess I guess they're playing Jerry Jones,
so it's like Warner, so I guess they're fine there.
I wouldn't say fine.
They signed Patrick McCarrie, Robert Hainsey, a decent chunk of change.
So I think that they're they think that they're OK along the offensive line.
Do they believe that like running back could be the option?
Somebody in the chat goes, Connor, don't you have the spreadsheet?
The spreadsheet stopped updating.
We're going to use the your picks tab, which is an awesome aspect of the PFF mock trap simulator.
But yes, golden airplay.
Golden, Winston Jr.
Higgins?
You think Winston Jr. over Eman Worry?
Oh yeah, maybe not.
I don't think in the end, the NFL boards will be like that.
I think we like Winston a lot on this show.
That's a good point.
I can go golden here.
He compliments BTJ.
Even though everyone thinks it's four to nine, they probably think he's another BTJ. I think even though everyone thinks it's four to nine,
probably they probably think he's another BTJ.
He's the opposite.
Route runner, detail, catch point, skills.
Was it the Dianne Brown contract?
Oh, it was one year.
No, okay, no, no, no, no, we're taking Golden.
Okay, Golden.
Okay, for the Raiders, I...
Well, we took Memboo.
You're probably gonna take Amos here.
Yeah, as much as I really wanted to take Jayden Higgins, I think
what you have, I think you have to take one or take Amos.
Yeah, it's either Amos or.
I mean, Deere and Porter's their type.
When do they pick again?
Not to the third round, so I don't think I mean, he might be there. It would be like a coin flip. But then if you miss out on him,
that's when it starts to get a little tough. Right? So unless there's a defensive tackle,
you would absolutely love or running back that you would absolutely love. But I still
think they could get a serviceable running back in round three. If you take Amos
here at 30 or 37. I would go Amos.
Go Amos. Yeah. Then you start a corner you get an outside
corner.
Yep. Yep. Yep. Yep. Let's go trade almost there. New England
Patriots we gave Will Campbell at the very top.
Really need safety.
I mean, you sort of need pass pressure, but like,
I mean, if you drafted Josh Connerly,
then you would have your left tackle as Josh Connerly.
Will Campbell could be guard for you.
And then you would have Morgan Moses, right?
Morgan Moses is the right tackle, yeah.
Right tackle, and then you're figuring it out with the other two guys.
Well, they have the center they got from the Vikings.
Bradbury.
They could also use Higgins.
A lot of people- Higgins is the pick to me.
They need a contested catch kind of wide receiver.
Okay. All right. All right. All right. All right.
Let's do that.
That's a good little start for the Patriots there.
I'll go Jayden Higgins there.
Chicago Bears.
Pick 30 and 41, very exciting, very exciting.
And Winston is fun here.
But pass rush like Swenson,
Swenson makes a lot of sense.
They just resigned.
What was it?
Their slot. They gave it to me.
Kyler Gordon. Yeah, they've hit really well on DB's.
Well, a lot of Connerly love in the chat.
It makes a ton of sense.
If you want to, you want more upside at left tackle, that's a good job from the chat.
Because I do think that Kieran Amagashi is more of a guard.
Yeah, and I think they just don't really the new staff there doesn't really know.
That's fair to like what he is, you know what I mean?
They're going to figure it out.
But yeah.
Connerly could make sense because who do we give the Saints we get in smart
Stuart, right?
Because the Saints could draft O line.
So you would want to probably draft O line first.
I don't know.
This is, this is a pretty nice strategy here actually.
I don't hate this.
I really don't.
Let's go Connerly.
Let's do Connerly here.
Connerly at 39, saints now at 40.
Connelly at 39, Saints now at 40. Saints took from our Stewart at 40 or at number nine.
They took their roster offensive line.
Yeah, I was thinking that too.
Somebody to play next.
We could just reunite the Texas A&M boys.
That'd be gnarly.
But I think this line needs another body
unless they want Dylan Radens to really be the starter next to for longer.
They also need a receiver even with Cook's back on a bridge, a bridge deal.
They do need a receiver. Yeah.
Like badly.
Bash bash. Oh, Kyle Williams.
If they want speed, Rashid Shaheed's coming back from injury.
So you don't know, you know, you just don't know.
I think why do you see her?
She's so hard for the Saints because like, in theory, they're good.
Like they have cooks, even though he's a little bit older.
You have Chris Olavi, you have Rashid Shaheed, but like Olavi and Shaheed,
you have you have such great injury unknowns with those guys
Wow, a lot of people like Jackson Dart here. Ah
Milro's gone by the way for anyone that said that no one to the Giants Wow a lot of people shouting out Jackson Dart. Okay
Almost everybody shout. I mean with the status of car. I think that it does make sense
Yeah, let's go dart here.
OK, we can go Jackson Dart here.
No one's saying it's number 40 going Jackson Dart,
which puts Chicago back on the clock at number 41.
Would love to get a pass rusher here.
Oh, more Norman Lots play behind Grady Jarrett,
develop as a three tech next to Gervin Dexter and Zach Pickens.
Grady Jarrett looks at him the first day he arrives and goes,
I give you my powers.
I mean, look, that's what I'm trying to set up here.
Man, I just I really want an edge.
Like there, the board is nice at both these spots, by the way. Yeah.
Scorton.
Scorton, Swinson, Tilly, you guys Alexander.
Yeah, I just I don't hate their interior defensive linemen.
I don't know if it's a strength, but I don't think it's so the chat
loves scoring little love for Tilly some love for Lana Jackson.
Scord or we write I see some Tui Malo.
Lot of scoring like a violent like violent responses about scoring.
Yeah, I. Jackson.
Bull Rush McGee McGee McGee.
That's perfect.
Oh, yeah.
Or I should McGee.
Love the Swinson love in here.
I'd go with scoring.
All right. This is an unreal bears draft.
I'm with you, Luke Nash.
This is a this is what the kids say is cooking right.
Actually, Gentie, Carly and Scorton, really three first rounders.
That's in a sense. That is nasty.
OK, Tyler Warren at number seven for the Jets.
Who are you taking for them here at number 42?
Probably Tyleek or.
It's a little early.
I think Ursury is going to be in play eventually.
They still need to tackle.
I think Ty Leek.
You think that makes no sense?
Yeah, let's look at the line.
Let's look at the line right now.
O line or D line? Off the line. Let's look at the line right now. O line or D line offensive line.
All right.
Yeah, I think in this spot, you're hoping with the third rounder,
you get your pillow or Ursary.
OK, or even Marcus Bow.
I think some one of those guys like they're going to they're going to get
a right tackle in this situation.
Take Tylek now. OK. And you have Warren who can kind of chip next to a younger tackle. Okay.
All right. We're going to tie league Williams, San Francisco 49ers. Can we take for them? Oh,
Walter Nolan at 11. Now we're back to offensive line here, right? Yeah, I would think so.
I think that I think that, oh,
I think that I think that, oh,
I mean, Jared Wilson or Tate Rallidge is.
Absolutely, they're tight, I think, Tate, for the spot they're in now.
Take this place, Jake Rendell on like a decent deal right now.
Well, obviously, it depends where they play Puni.
Maybe it's not Tate if they just want Pune to stick it right guard,
obviously, which he's been really good.
Let's see.
What is Jake Brendel on?
I think he signed a four year a year ago.
He did not that it's not that significant of a deal.
He's also thirty three.
He has two more years left on his deal.
No guaranteed money is on it.
It really just comes down, in my opinion, like.
Would they take.
Carson's Westinger getting love, I Jack in the chat said,
give me Bo, elite mover in that run game, I kind of came to mind for me,
even though it's early, like scheme fit, Bo makes a lot of sense.
I think so, too. What are their picks? They have toemefit bow makes a lot of sense. I think so too. What are
their picks? They have two thirds. They have a lot of comp picks. I mean they could wait on O-Line,
but. They could, but what's the, is it Iman Warre is the pick? Is it. No. No, I agree.
Has to be trenches.
to be trenches.
I mean, I depending on what they think of.
D winters, like it could be Carson Swesinger, man.
I think that was much higher on him. I might just take Ursary here.
49ers had Ursary in for a 30.
They draft a lot from that pool.
That's from Kenny.
Thank you, Kenny.
All right.
Yeah, I'd go Ursury.
Okay, let's go Ursury here for the 49ers.
Cowboys went with Tetra McMillan at number 12.
Is this Carson's Wessinger?
No, maybe not.
You've got to stop gap linebackers.
I guess so.
Yeah.
Oh, maybe not. If you've got those stopgap linebackers. Yes. Oh yeah. Oh, running backs.
Scat, Caleb Johnson, Trevion Henderson, Quincy.
Trevion or Judkins.
Do we think?
All right.
So you say Trevion or Judkins here for the Cowboys.
I think Trevion will go in the top 50. All right. Cowboys said Trevion or Judkins here for the cow? Yeah, I think Treviano will go in the top 50.
He's right. Cowboys fans. Let us know.
I'm about to send the link to the stream to our first guest.
Connor navigate, navigate the chat saying what the Cowboys should do here.
They want both. They want both Judkins in.
They do. It's a lot of Henderson.
It's a lot. A little Ben Morrison, a little Elec I a manner.
Obviously that's not happening with Ted.
We just took Ted.
It's it's Trevion.
You like Trevion as who?
What is he?
Is your RB what?
I think four.
All right.
Talk to us about him real quick as I sent this link out.
I mean, he's the big play threat in the backfield.
He you could kick him out.
You could motion him out to the slot and receiver.
He's a good pass protector.
He's got explosiveness in the outside run game.
Nasty stiff arm at the second and third level of the field.
I know they got to manage his touches, but he still plays violent.
It's not like he got hurt and plays differently.
Henderson, like they have veterans in that backfield
where the touch count doesn't scare me. I me about drafting a guy to give him 25 touches.
He's fine with the 13 or 14.
You'll get this just makes the Dallas offense way more explosive.
All right.
Chats are on in the chat.
They said as a Giants fan, the Cowboys definitely want Ali Gordon here.
A lot of people mentioning rebel in the chat.
Rebels been gone, folks gone.
He's gone, gone to see that he's not coming back.
He's gone to the he's gone to the ascended plane.
He's on the other side.
Oh, Mason Taylor here.
Oh, for the Colts. Yeah.
Before we make the pick, I do want to see if our guests will join
so they can pop in for the Colts.
Who do we have for the Colts?
Who is our Colts guest?
Well, it's not it's not like like Colts specific guest.
You make it sound like it.
You're like, I can't make the pick for the Colts until this person's here.
Ballard. Yeah, Ballard would love this. Yeah.
But he's under, you know, he's under a fake name. So it's brisk crowd.
Yes, Keith in the chat.
I know you had to leave for a minute.
The lines did take land Larison in the first round.
They did indeed.
Yeah.
Yeah.
We won't scroll up.
You got you.
You can just trust us.
You can trust us there.
Oh, Omar Norman lot to Indianapolis, something in Grover on past, for something him in a
four Grover on passing downs would be huge with Jihad in the first plus the free agent signings,
Omar Norman lot. The defense could be good to go.
People think the guests is Pat McAfee our Colts guests.
We tried to book them. It's not easy.
We try to email them and it bounced back every time. We're,
we're not worthy of it.
All right.
First guest for the stream.
We're getting them in here.
It's a locked on NFL Draft reunion.
Oh, yes, the end zone.
Benjamin Solak here joining the seven round mock draft stream.
The colleague appropriately wearing his go birds hoodie.
Is Jack bashed on the board? That's my next pick. Who's up? Jack. mock draft stream, um, appropriately, appropriately wearing his go birds hoodie.
Is Jack bash still on the board? That's my next pick. Who's up? I don't care. Jack bash. Let's do it. Jack bash is still on the board. I believe Jack bash is still on the board. Big bash fan
over here. What's going on fellas? How's Saturday? Hello, Ben. It's lovely. It's good, man. We're,
uh, we're, we're grinding through, we're grinding through this mock draft here. We're at pick number
45 an hour and a half in, which isn't bad. I actually thought that we'd be worse.
I really did though, thought we'd be worse off.
Here, I'll scroll it and you can see.
You can see how-
Oh, you started round one, okay.
We did.
Yep, yep, yep, yep, yep, yep, yep.
I don't like tie the war into the jets.
I know that's a thing, but I think that that's-
Well, Connor, what?
Did I imagine this was partially you?
I think it's just, I think it's what's happening.
Oh yeah?
Right, I just, I don't think it's in picking up steam. I don't love it for them just I think that's what's happening. Oh, yeah. Right. I just I don't think it's picking up steam.
I don't love it for them.
I don't know where you feel like if it were you, if that would be your call or not.
In that situation with Graham and Memboo gone in front of them,
I don't really know what the better pick is for them.
Who would you pick? Would you pick? Yeah.
Who would you pick?
So like I like Loveland more than I like Warren, period.
OK, that's like I've graded above me, too. I just don't I just have I've conceded like Tets not than I like Warren period. Okay, that's okay. I have Ted graded above Warren.
Me too. I just don't.
I just have I've conceded like Ted's not going in the top eight.
Yeah, I agree.
But I just like right realism things.
I don't like I don't I don't hate it.
Like Warren's one of like the players in this class and like whatever.
Yeah, but I feel like yeah tight end as far as like general needs and also like guys you
expect Justin Fields to tell the ball to like, I don't know.
You have to design stuff for him, but whatever.
It's a small, it's a small bone to pick.
No, I get what you're saying.
And I understand the people that like
certain things about Loveland better than him.
I think it's a lot more even than people realize or maybe it's caught up.
All right. All right.
Scrolling here, Jalen Shemar, Gentie.
I still think I'm like totally fine with Shemar going that high.
I know Shemar like it didn't sack anybody,
but I watched the film and I'm like, oh.
He wrecks a lot of plays.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
I still like Chamar.
I do tell people the pass or swing percentage
from Chamar is higher than you would expect
for a player who has like one and a half sacks
every single season.
Like if a guy has one and a half sacks in a season,
you think the pass or swing percentage is gonna be like 6%. His is like 12 this past year and then
it was 15.8 the year before.
Now he's a useful player. He's probably never going to be like a perennial double digit sack
on the NFL. But I said the same thing about Trayvon Walker and then he's had double digit
sacks despite not being like a high rush rate win guy. He just finishes every single rush
he's so long. Right. And then I think Stuart you had some similar things
Good to see jihad going early. I hope it will happen. I'm worried it will not cuz the shoulder but he's so good
That's true. That's true. Yeah, Cole's passing on tight end is fun
Banks grant 17
You're not a great guy. I'm fine with grant. I if no one's on the ball, I think first thing, I think Harmon's better period.
Okay.
That's what we brought up Harmon.
We did bring up Harmon.
So I don't think he could have been the pick there, but we just ended up going with Grant.
But if the Bengals are like, listen, we will die on the altar of I'm going to fix my run
defense.
I will get it.
And like if Kenneth Grant at 17, I was a big like, I loved Jordan Davis and George Reddy said 13 for the Eagles. I'm gonna fix my run defense, I will get it. And like if Kenneth granted 17, I was a big like,
I loved Jordan Davis and George Reddy
is fit 13 for the Eagles.
I was so excited.
And then like three years in, it's like, right,
Jordan Davis is kind of like doing what the Eagles
expect them to do, but the impact is just not
the gash that big.
So that's where like, I feel that as a cautionary tale
to Grant, but at the same time, Grant's a very good player.
Have you considered you can't teach girth though,
about why they drafted Jordan Davis?
I heard that you can't teach girth. That is something I've been privy to. Yeah. Okay. All right.
Just I'm just I'm just making sure that you that you had heard that because if you didn't then I let you know.
Obviously, I wanted to let you know. Okay. As high as a right here. Nice.
Zarku is I always get his name wrong as a rock. Yeah, as a rocker. Yeah.
Hampton Harmon. Lolling to the Chargers is so fun. I love doing that. It's so easy. Yeah.
Yeah.
Shadour to the Browns.
Did the Browns take Hunter at two?
They did take Hunter at two.
Okay, here's my official take.
My official take is entering the draft,
the Browns draft board should be like cam one.
I think like, you know, like Shuck is a good fit for them.
I think Dart is a good fit for them.
I think Shadour is like not a great fit
for like their style of offense.
And then the moment they take Hunter at two,
it's just immediately flip.
But Shadour's all, QB1 is left, right? It's that which they have such good
chemistry, the two of those guys. It's easy to say, oh, you know, whatever. No, like we watched
like two thirds of Devante Smith. You know what I'm saying? We watched like top quarterbacks,
sort of top receivers. They do not have this level of connection that these two guys do.
It's the moment you take Hunter at two, you have to unveil the quarterback board adjusted for Travis. And then at that point, Chidor should become the quarterback
target for the Browns. Look, it's all vibes. It's like when I used to play 2K with my friend and
Mark Heath and Marcus Morris, they were rated somewhere in the low 70s or high 60s, but they're
twins. And when you draft them on the same team, they immediately in my mind,
they become like 85 overalls each.
Cause just cause the chemistry there
is the force multiplier, the vibes are there.
So that's the same thing we should do.
There you go.
I like actually truly a hundred percent believe that I do.
All right.
We're still scrolling here.
But they're Baron.
Yeah, that's right.
That's the right range for Baron in my opinion.
I think the Rams perfect.
I think he's perfect with the Rams.
I really think.
Yeah, he'd be very good for the Rams.
I agree.
I keep going for the Cardinals, which I think is the top of his range.
I think he'd be a good Cardinal to Michael 20th Alliance is nice.
That's big for Detroit as it that'd be my round one winner right there.
You big guy.
You would you take him top 15 in this class?
Probably.
Yeah. Yeah. I mean, like the thing about being a big Mikell guy
is like you can love the film.
You can like the film and be okay in the film.
Like I like the film.
And then you hear his little bit injured
and you go watch some other stuff.
You're like, okay, I can see it for this guy.
And then you remember that like he's 20.
He's 20 with, can't teach length, right?
Not girth, the length this time.
You can't teach length.
And like the testing wasn't blow you out of the water,
but like 10 yard split stuff, like vertical,
broad jump stuff is like,
all right, like the short air explosiveness is here.
It's one of the youngest players in the class
of a high developmental profile on a team that like,
these Georgia pass rushers don't sack anybody.
Like it's just time to accept that nobody coming out
of Georgia is gonna have high sack numbers,
save for Jalen Carter, right?
Which is not the guy who's supposed to.
So to me, like, I don't know,
I think his profile
is a lot more splashier and high ceiling
and exciting stuff than people talk about.
So like, oh, another, just Georgia guy,
four and a half sacks, what is this?
I don't know, he's young, he's athletic,
he was playing on a bum ankle,
and he's gonna play in an offense,
or excuse me, in a system
that's gonna allow him to sack the quarterback more.
So there's so many reasons to like Mike L Williams.
The fact that people try to find reasons not to like him is perplexing to me.
All right.
Uh, I had Maxwell in the first round, had to get Maxwell in the first round
because he's going in the first round.
Um, so Von Revell going before someone rebel rebel going before, uh, Trey Amos.
No, no, thank you.
I will.
That's yeah.
The birds, the birds would like Trey Amos, please.
And thank you. That's nuts. Yeah. The birds would like Trey Amos, please, and thank you.
That's what, dude, Eagles fans, we had a flood,
flood of Eagles fans who were saying Trey Amos,
but then we gave them the choice between Rebel and Amos,
and it was basically-
Are you a Rebel guy, Connor?
Yeah.
He is, I'm an Amos guy.
I'm a man of Trey Amos, ever.
I like Rebel, I like Rebel's film quite a bit,
I like Amos's film quite a bit. I gave him some quite a bit.
I have one guy who is not injured in the sec. And I have one guy who was injured out of Eastern East Carolina.
And that to me is like, I know where, what basket I want to put my eggs in.
And then how we sec. So, all right. Uh, second round,
this is where Minnesota we had them take Donovan Jackson top of the second round.
No road goes off at 34,. Burden to the Titans.
I like that.
Golden to the Jags.
Amos to the Raiders.
36, I didn't even realize he didn't make it first round.
Oh.
Right, right.
Higgins, Connerly.
Dude, look at this.
This bears draft is Ash and Gentie,
Josh Connerly and Nick Skorton.
Dude, I love Skorton.
I think I like-
Me too.
I don't know why nobody cares about him anymore.
I like watched like a game of 23 tape,
like over the summer and I was like,
oh, this has to be so good, Texas A&M.
And then the Texas A&M film, like there's heavy hand stuff,
there's the inside spin,
like there's still stuff that's like, okay, whatever.
And then I rewatched some 23 stuff and I was just like,
oh my God, dude, this, like now having calibrated
to the 2024 edge class,
if Skowritten just played in 23 and then all 24
just vanished off the face of the earth
and then returned back for the 2025
I don't hold drafts. He's one of the top three drafted edges. Dude. The film is unbelievable. He's like 19
It's a freak. Yeah, another dude age. Yeah, I'm with you on that. Okay, so now we're up to the Colts
So we're going decently rapid-fire here release. We're trying to Ben
They took John Campbell at number 14 is this Mason Taylor spot? I was about to say, yeah.
I feel like there's been the rumors
that Mason Taylor is going to be a friend around one guy.
I certainly prefer him to a royal.
I view him more as right middle of round two, a dude.
He's a year's growth away from being a three down tie down.
He's very Tyler Hague-ish to me, lengthwise,
ability to catch by the rim.
Some run after the catch, not going to break three tackles
for you, but he will get to the corner. He will pick up some tough yards, and then he can block just catch by the rim. Like some run after the catch, not gonna like break three tackles for you, but he will get to the corner.
He will pick up some tough yards
and then he could block just fine on the interior.
And so yeah, I like Taylor to the cold.
So as they pass around one, I think, yeah,
you kind of expect them to come back for it in round two.
Okay, so we'll go Taylor here at 45.
So it's your hot Campbell, Mason, Taylor, Falcons.
They don't pick in the third round.
So it's just second round.
Then we jumped to the fourth round.
They pick Mike Green in the first round. I always give them Mike Green in the third round, so it's just second round. Then we jumped to the fourth round. They pick Mike Green in the first round.
I always give them my career in the first round,
and somebody told me recently that they're not taking my career in the first round.
I'm like, all right, well, then who?
Who? Because he's the only one who can sack people right now.
Yeah, I've heard the opposite. So we'll see. Oh, yeah. OK.
Yeah, I heard that they I heard they really like them.
I think but also like once again, a player that there's things
that we might not know
about.
So I'm not going to.
Yeah, I'm just going to throw this out here because I just thought of it.
Jalen Ramsey trade to the Falcons.
But they send us 46.
No, no, no, I know.
But just like it could cost because they don't have a third rounder. They have a cost of 46. No, no, no, I know, but just like, it could cost, because they don't have a third rounder,
they have a fourth rounder.
So they could trade like a fourth rounder of what?
Like a fourth rounder this year,
fourth rounder next year,
and then you're taking on his contract?
Yeah, I really like the contract.
Because it's pretty beefy, I think.
It's still, Stingley and,
oh my gosh, J.C. Horne eclipsed it,
but I still think it's pretty beefy.
Yeah, it was a three year extension worth 72 million.
So in the year 2025 is only a $16.6 million cap hit, but then he comes 25, 26.8 and then
36.2 in 2028.
You're committing to like age 32 season, age 33 season, age 34 season.
Obviously, if you acquire it, you don't have to deal with any of the signing bonus stuff
that all goes to the Dolphins.
You do it with base salaries of 10 million,
10 million, and 21 million over the following three years.
So it's not that bad of a contract to acquire.
You probably, I think like,
if you called Chris Greer, I was gonna say Terry,
if you called Chris Greer and you say,
hey, a four and a four, I'd be like,
listen, like we'd like, this is Jalen Ramsey.
Like I need like a day two pick.
I need something a little bit more serious than that.
So would we go so would we say like
for like for the Falcons, could we do like fourth round of this year?
Second round or next year?
Yeah, that would more so like in.
I think you guys are nuts.
He's turning 31 in October.
It's still Jalen, though.
Yeah, but it's a second round pick.
Oh, today's NFL. I agree.
I would not want to send that if I were running a team.
But if I'm Chris Greer and I'm giving Jalen Ramsey, who I just extended,
you know, three or 72 million, 24 million per year, I have to
present some level of like, guess this is Jalen Ramsey, you know, whatever.
Yeah. And I'd be like, OK, keep him then.
We don't give a shit. Like, I think that's the challenge of trading Jalen Ramsey right there.
I think we well summarize why this is going to be a problem for the Dolphins.
It is the coaching staff that coached him when he was in Los Angeles, right?
With Raheem Morris.
Yeah, Raheem Adam when he was in Los Angeles.
Yeah.
I kind of want to do this.
I kind of want to do a fourth in a second rounder next year for Jalen Ramsey.
You guys are nuts.
Nuts.
You can do that if you want.
If Jalen Ramsey gets traded for a second round.
We still have to make this selection for the foul.
We do, we do, we do.
Oh, okay. You're doing the second next year. Yeah, we're do that if you want. It doesn't get straight for a second right now, right?
We still have to make this selection for the we do we do we do.
We do. Oh, OK. You're doing the second next year.
Yeah, yeah, yeah. No, I'm not doing 46.
I don't think they would trade 46. I really don't.
I think it would be like a fourth this year and then like either a third or a second
next year. I don't know where we would we would land on that.
I would I am 100 percent with you guys, but I agree.
But I agree.
Why is saying that that's awful?
And he's, dude, it's funny.
I think that people on both sides are saying
that this is a bad trade.
So we won't make the deal.
Why do you show me the tackle board real quick?
Yes, I can, absolutely.
Let's see Norman lot there where I like.
Yeah, there's nothing to just hammer
as it gets a scope who you expect.
They lost over a thousand snaps at defensive tackle
with Eddie Goldman leaving
and with Grady Jarrett being caught. Contavia Street is a free agent next year. They're like
insanely thin at defensive tackle. I don't know. Everybody gives them a really benefit.
They just really love Ruke and Doralus, right? Sure. But like, is that you're going to walk
into next year with just that? It's yeah, it's Rook. It's David Onomata. They have Morgan Fox there, right?
Who's the one like I was just doing like some time in the interior. I don't know.
So like, I like Darius at this price point.
And I like Sanders at this price point as well. Um,
you could talk me into Collins at the, at this, at this stage. I'm not,
I think it's a little bit too early for Norman lot.
Who's just kind of more of like a rotational player.
He's kind of expecting to be in the league. I think CJ West is a great player, but just the value on on the pass rush.
Like we're a top 50 still.
I kind of want a guy who can impact the third down.
And I can't remember who else I saw there.
Oh, sorry.
And then smart turn around.
If he on tomorrow, I wanted to like him, but I couldn't get there.
His twenty twenty four stuff is all over the place.
Yeah, yeah, it really is. Connor, do you have a leaning one way or the other?
All right, you chat, you tell us.
Who's Atlanta taking a 46?
We have Mike Green's already in hand.
They need a corner.
The corners that are left are the corners.
That's where I'm going to go.
Ben Morrison.
Oh, I mean, I think that they would like Ben Morrison.
Morrison or Azaria is I'm totally fine with.
I know Azaria didn't run well, which is gonna hurt.
Yeah.
Yeah, I mean, the problem with Azaria not running well
is the fact that no receiver gets a straight run on him
because he's unbelievable at the line of command.
I agree.
This is the classic dude that I fall for.
I'm like, I don't care how fast he is.
He'll never have to run ever.
And then he's Russell Douglas
and he takes four years to figure out how to play in the league.
That's the comp form, without a doubt.
Yeah, I think he's in the Carlton Davis,
Russell Douglas spectrum, which is like, it's Ben Solak catnip at the quarterback position. That's the comp form without a doubt. Yeah. I think he's in the Carlton Davis for Sewell Douglas Spectrum,
which is like, it's Ben Solak catnip
at the quarterback position.
I love his argument Thomas.
I really love it.
Yeah, he's my quarter five.
I love Morrison, I think Morrison's excellent.
I prefer both of those two players on my board outright
to any of the defense tackles.
It's fine, let's do it.
Ben Morrison to the Falcons at 46.
Nice.
Cardinals at 47.
No, that's next.
Thanks. Okay. Yeah, okay, yeah, it's a couple banks
All right, the carnals just need to add splashy players
But they have so many like decent starters and they just need to add like high leverage guys. Mm-hmm
Well, this is the draft for that. Yeah
Can I interest you in one Kyle Williams? Hmm
Can I interest you in one Kyle Williams? Hmm.
To improve on Dorch.
Yeah, essentially.
Yeah.
You have Marvin Harrison who could play the X.
You've got Michael Wilson who could play the slot or Z.
Dorch's deal is expiring.
So he's up next year.
Obviously they're looking at top wide receiver.
That's kind of the worst kept secret in the world right now.
Every single person paired them with Matthew Golden,
like the exact same week.
Lot of D-line in the chat.
Lot of D-line in the chat.
I just, are they gonna take-
Here's my thing with D-line.
This is why I said what I said, right?
It's Darius Robinson, Justin Jones,
Balal Nichols, freaking Dalvin Tomlinson,
Dante Stills, Josh Wedds, David Collins, Baron Browning,
Kaleus Campbell, they added, B.J. O'Dellori's coming back.
They have so many bodies, right?
Right. Add like a oh the 47th pick we take TJ Sanders. It's just another body like I like I you the Cardinals
Line
What's that says disrespected Bull Rush McIntyre aka TJ Sanders
I heard you guys call him that on the most recent recap pod.
I did like the rankings pod.
I don't know why.
The reason why the backstory to that is that Connor and I were like, Hey, TJ Sanders is
really good.
But like he just, you know, like it's a really deep defensive line class.
And if he had a splash in your name, like Bull Rush McIntyre, maybe he'd, you know,
like get more notoriety for how many problems one on one pass rusher.
You know, I'll tell you, if you, if you if you if if I'm on the draft stream and somebody says
over the 58th take, they've taken Bull Rush McIntyre out of the University of Georgia
Southern.
I've got a question.
He's an exciting prospect having no information about him.
I would confidently say on air.
I bet.
Yeah, no, he's got it.
Uh, Ian says if I were to get an NFLSE logo tattooed on me anyway, I could get an autograph from
you guys added to the tattoo.
Don't worry about it.
Yeah.
100%.
I'm going to answer that for them.
All right.
What do we do?
The defensive line.
I like Kyle Williams better.
I do too.
They really don't want that. It's so funny.
I think he's more impactful for them.
All right, you guys.
What's the linebacker board right now?
Is Shwesh still on?
Shwesh is still there.
Yeah, he's there.
Yeah.
So is Demetrius Knight.
Okay, well, I'm talking about the good players right now.
Damn.
Wow.
Flandre.
Dude, Kaiser Y. Mac Wilson, not necessarily the greatest starting linebacker do it ever exist. Iender. Dude. Kaiser, why Mac Wilson?
Not necessarily the greatest starting linebacker dude ever exist.
I'm with you.
I'm with you.
They're both under contract though.
But so I like, I like Schlesinger for them.
He'd be that's again, like splashy players.
So I should say three down player.
He's in back full blitzer.
He's in back full coverage player.
Great splash TFLs.
He'd be very, very good for them.
I'd be cool with swass.
Hey, I just, I just, I just don't.
Like everybody's saying like no wide receiver, you need defense, but I do agree with what Ben said, you have a ton of bodies.
So it has also reminded me, Kazier is not under contract with the team right now.
He's not signed anywhere.
I remember his service, but he's not with the team.
And so the spots open.
All right, I'll go Swiss.
What do you think, Connor?
Yeah, do it.
I mean, I'm not high on this player at all,
but you guys have kind of angled your way.
You're like Schlesinger.
No, he's on the ground all the time.
In the NFL, you think that's going to get better.
He started at his what, Fifth or sixth year of college.
He's an athlete and will be a great special teamer and a sub package player.
Listen, listen, it's it's the ground who cares about the ground.
Don't worry about it.
Yeah, right there.
He is.
I agree.
He's on the ground a lot.
I just watched the LSU film last night.
I was watching Frasier.
Uh-huh.
And it's not the best game that Carson Swessinger ever played.
Yeah, it's a good thing though.
It gets easier than LSU at the NFL.
It was his first career start though, is the thing.
And he got to go home
at the start of the course of the year.
He was like, you walk on safety.
Had to get to earn his stripes.
He had to build the body up better.
I love Swessinger's film.
Jake, it says that Prince Lee had a top 30 visit with Arizona
and they stick to their top 30 visits pretty well.
Princely is the play here.
I like princely quite a bit.
Total don't don't need knees or care about playing on the ground.
Absolutely.
Connor.
Okay.
Do you have okay.
Do you have conviction on a pick here?
It's just not to take sweats here.
But what's the oh so why we got to have a conversation. We got to make a pick here. We're to take Swiss here, but. The what's so all right, we gotta have a conversation.
We gotta make a pick here.
We're gonna be on till draft night.
I think that.
I think inviting me on was a bad idea.
The rest of them.
Oh my God.
The rest of them will be easier, but who are we taking for them?
Prince Lee?
I'm not gonna take Darius Alexander or Prince Lee.
Prince Lee has got a crazy pass rush toolbox.
Prince Lee it is.
There it is. 47.
I click the button. Miami Dolphins.
We gave them Will Johnson at 13.
So obviously whether or not they have Jalen Ramsey or not, they're good.
My mind immediately goes defensive tackle again.
Yeah, I need to be there.
Did we take Tilly because he off the board?
Yeah, he's yeah it. Okay. Okay.
I think Darius is probably more than what they need from one more Norman lot, but
what's the office line board real quick.
More so interior.
Um, Rattlage.
Good work. Actually.
What'd you say?
I said, it feels early for me for Ratledge.
Alfred Collins, if you're that high on Alfred Collins, some people are, I'm not as, but
I think Alfred Collins actually does make a lot of sense for Miami.
He's got like, they care about length a lot.
He's got that.
Yeah.
Yeah.
He definitely has that.
I could go Alfred Collins here.
It would be a very good stop at scroll up real quick.
Yeah. Sanders, Alexander, up real quick. Yes. Sanders Alexander.
Norman La. Yeah, none of those guys really feel like like Anthony Weaver
sort of dolphins we want to do is like, you know, a little more blue collar.
And that like Collins has those reps. Yeah, I would agree.
All right.
Albert Collins, 48 to the Dolphins Bengals, 49.
God have a guard here.
Yeah. You know, I watched Cody Ford protect Joe Burrow for 17 games.
I was going to say how many games? Yeah.
Yeah. Got to have a guard here.
I would want to Jonah or I think they love Jonah.
Can maybe give you tackle insurance in a pinch.
And if they're just building the monster stars of the offensive line,
like he's a guy who can do it. Right. Yeah.
Jonah was one of my favorite film watches just exclusively because of how wide he is.
Like it's like the film is incredible.
Every time I would just pause the film like four or five times a game.
Like doorframe player.
Bro, I fell. Yeah.
I just made a mistake of not looking at the chat and then looking at it again.
I'm once again in the matrix. Okay, let's go Jonah.
I like Jonah.
Yeah, I would also not be surprised if that pick was
Bao out of Purdue for very similar reasons, right?
Just sort of a tackle guard and what have you.
Just, that's an email I like quite a bit.
Could be.
Seahawks at 50, we gave them Zable at 18.
Play guard, right?
Yep.
Did we pick Imanwari?
I think Imanwari is still on the board.
Yeah, he is. Oh, Smola. Yeah.
Jared Wilson.
Is it Jared Wilson? Yeah, this is like I feel like Jared Wilson
in the second round of the Seahawks, either 50 or 52 is like
I feel like I clicked that button so many times.
I agree. I think he'd be phenomenal for them.
He'd start to center as they will start to guard.
You want to take Wilson here?
I'm down to we got to get a model off the board at some point.
Yeah, yeah, we will.
We will.
Broncos, who do we take for the Broncos?
Oh, Marion Hampton.
What's wide receiver look like?
Yeah, I was about to say, is Kyle still there?
I was bashing him. I know Bessie's B Kyle still there? Kyle is back.
I know Besh is an interesting one here. Badge it like, you know,
Sean Payne loves his receivers to see on a funnel,
some screens to funnel some easy touches to Besh
after the cash man.
Signed on the intermediate routes, Mims vertical.
I like Besh.
I think Besh is,
so I think he's going to be so good in the NFL because he's so quarterback
friendly.
He catches everything.
It's such a nice radius.
Yeah.
Run smart routes against zone.
You know, since I don't cover and then once he catches the football, he is a brutal angry
individual who wants to break multiple tackles and has not just the toughness and the strength
at the pad level, but also the quickness.
He is just such his exactly like Cooper cup in the sense that their change of direction scores
are much better than their explosiveness.
Yes. Right?
They're very, very good on curves, on corners, on angles.
And that's going to be a headache to deal with that,
with that misdirection heavy offense,
that screen offense that they run.
I like, I think that's just a great fit for the Broncos.
Works for me.
For me, Besh?
My goal was to just get on here and get Besh picked.
So I'm on that.
There he goes. Yeah, man. You got in and you were like just get on here and get best picked. So I'm not that he goes.
You what you got in and you were like,
hey, you picked and there you go.
He has not.
This might be might be Kyle Williams.
Yeah, I mean, it's speed at wide receiver.
Yeah. And and I feel pretty confident
that Kyle Williams can spend the majority of the time in the NFL on the outside.
Me too. Often I think we often overstate
slot Z guys ability to do that. But Kyle actually like from an explosiveness standpoint,
play above the rim standpoint and rat running standpoint,
I feel like actually, yeah, right.
They can have a very good example of being Tyler Lockett who like,
oh, Lockett was a slot.
Yeah, the Lockett could like spend 70% of his time at Z and it's not an issue.
Yeah, he Kyle's really good at getting off the line of scrimmage.
He's got a quick feet, which is like his size is impressive.
Right. And if you tell me like Pac 12, Air Raid was a receiver,
I'm like, he's got no idea what to do against.
Now he understands what he's doing.
It's very refreshing to see T.
Kuhler in the chat pointing out something very, very important.
Williams also saves on moving cost.
Yes. Got to have an optimal draft.
Do we think that they'd be interested in even worry obviously with the alien like athleticism
versatility going to Mike McDonald or no?
You think it's like Kyle knockoff.
They like to use spoon in some different ways.
They do for sure.
I have wide receivers way more important here.
They extended love his first offseason there who you want to play love more in the box
And then Kobe Bryant is the other guy who plays there and they think I think improving on safety is something that they would like
To do and improving on that Kobe Bryant spot
But you are not allowed to walk into the draft with no interior offensive lineman and Cooper Cup Jax for the jugglers
You're starting receivers and I mean be like all safeties for their priority like it's kind of the nature of the Ross right now
So this bigger fish to fry. Yep
Have a table hard here for Williams.
OK, that's fine. That's fine with me.
Is whatever I have for you, Connor, after the first four.
Is he what is he?
Why is he required for you after the first four?
No, I think I have him 10.
OK, but like it's a it's just a he has a skill set
that not a lot of guys in this class have.
His Higgins and Noel are both gone. Yeah.
The Iowa State kids. No, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no,
no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no,
no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no,
no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no,
no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no,
no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no,
no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no,
no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no,
no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, is not enough that like, again, on draft night,
the Seahawks took Williams before Noel,
I'd be like, what are they doing?
I mean, those guys are at similar tiers.
Okay, I might be cheating a little bit here.
I do this for every mock when I have the opportunity
to do it because from everything that I've heard,
the Bucks love Carson Swessinger a lot.
So the fact that he is still on the board,
I think he's probably the pick here.
There's not really a corner.
I mean, I drafted as Rocco at here. There's not really a corner. I mean, I drafted as Rocco at 19.
There's not really a corner that I think they will like.
I don't think they will like Darien Porter
or Zariah Thomas over Carson's Wessinger.
I think he's their dude.
None of us are gonna fight you.
Yeah, I think he is the guy.
I hear they really like him a lot.
So if they have the chance to get him at 53 or even like trade up and get him a little bit earlier, I think that they the guy. I hear they really like him a lot. So if they have the chance to get him at 53
or even like trade up and get him a little bit earlier,
I think that they would do that.
I had my draft grades,
like optimal approach for Tampa Bay.
And I was like,
walk out with one of the two top linebackers
and everything else is gravy.
Like that rushes to a point.
I had the secondary certainly,
okay, maybe pass rush rotation.
But like if they get Jahad or Schlesinger,
everything afterwards is gravy.
All right.
Jarada same VAR check started over. No, I didn't mess up. Don't write in the papers that I messed
up. Green Bay Packers at 54 in Mecheg Buka. Ben, we don't want to keep you here forever. We'll
have you make like a couple of just like, I don't know, four or five more. But you're making this
pick because I want nothing to do with it.
Yeah, 100 percent.
So we gave the Green Bay Packers and make it look at 23.
Do the Packers not like the NFL stock exchange selections for their teams?
That's the concern here.
It's just difficult.
Like when we go through our first mock draft exercises, they always yell at us
and like the Packers would never be interested in this guy.
And we're like, yeah, but this is what they need.
And they're like, they would never pick him.
And so it's always like a war between
what Brian Coot and Coots would do
and the Packers, you know, like thresholds
and their, you know, the draft history and things like that.
So I lost to peace talks with them.
Yeah.
I love the defensive line.
Peace talks.
I look to, right, Devonte, Wyatt and Kenny Clark,
they lost to Darrell Slayton.
Clark's obviously not getting any younger.
Wyatt's coming up with his fifth year option.
And so any body type of defensive tackle
is interesting to me.
And then the other thing I would look at would be Edge,
where they have all these big heavy handed guys
and absolutely no pass rush.
And-
Braden Swinson, Femi Oladejo.
So Braden's still there.
Swinson is the exact issue at hand, right?
Because Swinson would clearly work for them
because he can bring a level of juice
and a level of high side rushing that they don't currently have. And then every Packers fan says, yes, well they'll never bring on somebody like Braden Swinson would clearly work for them because he can bring a level of juice and a level of high side rushing that they don't currently have.
And then every Packers fan says, yes, well, they'll never bring on somebody like Braden
Swinson because he's not their type.
And it's like, yeah, well, guess what their type has led them to?
The defense can't do anything in the pass rush.
I'm enjoying this thoroughly.
Yes.
I'm with you guys on that.
So when I look at this top group, I look, my eyes immediately go to JT Tumaloau.
I think it's much, much more so their type. And then Landon Jackson, if you like a land in Jackson, I
personally don't love a land in Jackson. And so I would, I would gravitate to tune Malo.
Uh, okay. Um, Packers fans in the chat, we're drafting defensive lines, JT to him below
out. It's Braden Swinson. It's landed Jackson. I will leave the power in your hands. Fire
off in the chat, uh, with what you think happens there. TD Gaming says, as a Bucks fan,
if we come away with Donovan and Carson,
the draft is pretty much perfect already.
I think that Jason Light would agree with you.
A lot of speed in that front.
I see a Scataboo. I see a Scataboo in the chat.
Yeah, baby! I've infected their minds.
I see a second Scataboo. Oh, it's the same guy.
I see a third Scataboo. He's just like...
I hope it's just Cooper firing.
It is. It's Cooper just firing
off scatter boo every time he's on fire. And I think we're getting mostly JT to him a lot
I love. Yeah, I can't look back to all the scatter. We're trying to copy paste and he
actually just sent the V.
My man's cooking.
People are saying, Oh more Norman lot. They already have Devante white though.
Like I don't think they'd pick normal lot.
Yeah. Somebody else played.
He played the best year of his career is a three tech last
year. So I think they're going to give him another year to do
that. I think we're going JTT fellas.
What should we want to open that can of worms?
I just, I know they need corner, but they, they,
they would pick one of the defensive linemen left over a corner
This is on next in corner one, baby
I'm picking JTT because that was the most votes in the chat
It's been a lot of money on a corner from the Raiders, didn't they Hobbs? Yeah
Yeah, they were already good in the nickel
I don't know the vision but al but alas, here we are.
The Los Angeles Chargers,
they took Colson Lovell in the first round, 55.
What are we doing here?
How far is Stanford from?
I don't know my California geography.
Are we saving on moving costs here?
It's not far, it's not far.
They could draft out a guy in Maynard.
Five and a half hours.
He'll hit you all that.
He'd you all that.
That's not too bad.
Yeah, he could you all it. What do you think, Connor?
I like the line here.
Oh, I do.
Line or edge.
Yep.
Oh, Swinson, Swinson.
That's what I've taken here.
Like you guys like Swinson more than me.
I think so.
Clearly.
I think Swinson is solid.
Yeah. And this is at 55.
I'd love for them to get a solid.
I definitely think right.
Like having a good feeling when Khalil
Mack leads next year is probably a big a big objective in this draft.
Yeah. Yeah.
Yeah. So it's not as as I do every time I mock someone to the Chargers.
Now time to go see if he was recruited by Michigan when he came out.
Thank you to Slentzai for the super chat.
I'm drafting Ben Solak wide receiver for the Chargers.
Really good change of direction is a monster in the act
and can make defenders miss in space.
I can't, brother, not at all.
I appreciate the vote of confidence.
People are asking how even why are you still on the board?
It's a good point.
I mean, where are you?
You could put him in theory to the bills if he really wants you here.
Oh, for sure. Yeah.
Both both rap and DeMar Hamlin are improve uponable for sure. Wow. Look at that
Look at that. The commenter is wrong. He's not he's not a good Docs or by the by the the Wolverines
He never happened. Absolutely never happened for the Buffalo Bills who have another pick here at 62, which we could take a defensive line
So what a draft this is shaping out to be for the Buffalo Bills Carolina Panthers at 57. They took Jalen Walker at number eight
Panthers Pan Carolina Panthers at 57. They took Jalen Walker at number eight.
Panthers, Panthers, Panthers. Corner.
They also need-
Oh, safety would have been great for them.
They would have been a Montmore and a Harvey.
They lost Fuller and Woods this year.
Wait, Xavier Watts would be perfect for this.
I think they want Trayvon Mary to be more of that
strong safety into the box,
like just going downhill type of a player
and Watts could be that over the top seat.
And both can do the other thing passively well, which gives you the ability to kind
of discuss what you're doing, which is how you want to play it.
Yeah.
Now Watts in round two to them is a, is a, is a parent.
I like a lot Texans.
We gave them Tyler Booker at 25.
Could we go online again?
No, I don't know if we need to do we.
Well, it was Booker you said.
Yeah.
So I want a guy who can maybe play left tackle.
I want a guy who maybe play right tackle.
That's A tackle.
Yeah, I bet you do in the second round buddy.
Yeah.
I like Trapezo.
I do too.
Trapezo.
Trapezo.
Yeah.
Crazy train, Ozzy.
Yeah.
I liked his film quite a bit.
Mylam was interesting to me, but I would not I would not put him at.
Tripoli's level. I think he's a guard. Yeah, I do, too.
Grant, you guys watch Grant. Yeah.
It's got good feet.
He's he's got the goods.
Yeah. But what is it going to look like against good players?
We'll say it's like Schwest is a little bit like, listen, like,
don't worry about these things.
Just just watch. Just just watch.
They would run that that that zone reverse and have him be the only lead
blocker on this diabolical stuff.
He's so good. He's so fast.
All my grant takes were going to be decided by the senior ball.
And then then he got hurt.
How do I personally take grant before I would take Trappello for a lot of teams?
You can talk me into Texas in such desperate need
of a starter right now,
that they don't want to waste time on the Grant train.
So I can be talking to Trappillo,
but that's how I stack those two.
I just think they have so many bodies, man.
Like I understand that you don't feel great
about a lot of them, but like Cam Robinson, Titus Howard,
Jarrett Patterson, Ju Scruggs, Blake Fisher,
Trent Brown's on this team, Ed Ingram's on this team,
Lagan Tomlinson's on this team.
They've just added so many bodies on offensive line.
I don't know how offensive line heavy this draft is gonna be
because the more of these guys that you draft,
the more of these players that you have signed contracts to
or traded for that you will have to cut.
There's not gonna be enough roster spots for them
in the regular season.
So I understand that people being like,
yeah, but most of them stink. I just, I understand that people being like,
yeah, but most of them stink.
I just don't know if just-
Yeah, Jalen Noll getting a lot of love,
understandably. That's what I was gonna say.
Do you draft Jalen Noll here?
I'd be cool with that.
Yeah, I would too.
That would not bother me at all.
Yeah, I went to check the tramp round contract
is one year 2.3 million.
So like cutting that is negligible.
Yeah. I think you can get away with like a true tackle,
but Noll would not bother me, no. All right, let's go Noible. Yeah, I think you can get away with like a true tackle, but no, it would not
bother me. No. All right. Let's go. No.
Yeah, I love no. OK. All right. All right.
Are we no guys or Higgins guys?
Hey, hey, I was I draft all the Iowa State players this year.
I'm no personally.
That's why I like I like no, but I really like Higgins.
I just need I need Higgins to make two catches above the rim.
And I was all the way there, but I just don't, I don't love them.
When he's got to elevate.
Uh, okay.
So Ben, we'll get you out of here with the Eagle's pick at the very end.
Ravens, Ravens of 59.
They took Malachi Starks there.
All right.
It was, what's just the straight top of the board.
Who feels Ravensie?
Um, Norman lot feels Ravensie Kevin Winston Jr.
Obviously feels Ravens Z, but they just
drafted a safety.
Um, Darius Alexander could TJ Sanders could.
Yeah.
They're thin behind, uh, Travis Jones and not many meta BK because Pierce retired this
past year.
They saw Broderick.
So like, I like an O'Mar Norman lot for them again, from the rotational pass rush perspective. Just third down ringer kind of what it was oftentimes
that Tennessee Sanders I think can do that for you and probably has a little
bit better of a profile in terms of development. Sanders is the problem with
Sanders is pretty undisciplined and like the Ravens defense is kind of like, you
know, but also they're good. Like kind of getting those guys with their head
screwed on straight. So I lean Sanders towards the early guys.
Over or more normal lot, you're saying?
Yeah, I do for the for the ratings.
What do you think, Connor?
I'm good with that.
We went corner in the first round or we're going to start.
Starks.
OK, sweet.
So D line, I think makes sense for them.
Yeah, I do.
I do agree corner because like they have Cheeto Uzi and everybody
keeps saying like, what do you mean when you corner to have Cheeto Uzi?
It's like it's 2025 fellas.
Like, you know, we got to this is on one year, three million dollar deal.
And so I do think corners also like is a need.
But even the tackles up there, too.
OK, let's go to Sanders here.
Lions 60, we give Michael Williams.
I would take a guard here. I agree.
And I would say a R here. I agree. And I would say K Ratledge every time. He's a son of a gun.
All right. Very appropriate for the Detroit culture.
Georgia, just the all Georgia draft right now for the Detroit Lions with Mike.
I've heard that works.
Good football program, unfortunately. Go Gators.
The Washington commanders who we give them.
Oh, James Harris, Jr. 29.
Judkins. Oh, I was at running back time.
Could be Judd can be.
Where did it? Where did Travian Henderson go?
Cowboys, I think.
Cowboys. We had him going to the Cowboys.
Yeah. For you.
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Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah.'s so rich. It's at his best.
It's at his best.
Yeah, I mean, like I at my best and Mel Kiper, but I got
I'm not frequently at my best.
What are we doing?
Good. What are we doing here with the bills?
We give Max Rush to give him the Nicky Manwari.
I got past Russia, you know, highlighted here.
Landon Jackson, Darius Alexander, Omar Norman lot.
Norman lot's pretty much the same that,
at Oliver is, you know, in that same system.
But any thoughts here either way?
What does corner look like?
Well, we drafted Harrison.
We took one.
Oh, we took Harrison, excuse me. Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Yeah, yeah, yeah. Yeah.
I'm rotational defensive line is interesting to me.
Backup tackle is also interesting to me.
Alec Anderson's arising free agent for them.
They don't have a ton of depth there.
See who else I wrote down for Buffalo.
You think anything specific with Connor?
They need a two gapper.
I think Darius can hold the line, man.
Darius is a really just good player.
Yeah.
Elite run defender last year.
I think I would go Darius here.
I would too.
He's my favorite of the defensive tackles left.
Okay, all right.
There's a world where in the real draft,
he's gonna go a lot earlier than this.
Some of the stuff I've heard.
I think he could, he's just older.
Like does the NFL just give me like, oh.
And like low production Mac,
but also when you hear about like the story and kind of his
how seriously he took football early and late, like a lot of it
makes sense. Right.
So I still feel like he's an ascending player, even though
the profile doesn't look like it as much.
Yeah, chiefs, chiefs took Josh Simmons at 31 deal on
Omer Norman lot here next to Chris Jones.
What do you think?
What's the rest of the deepest tackle room?
I just saw we just picked like four guys.
I just want to see who else is there.
I'll take the edges off the board.
Yeah.
You had no more normal life.
It's my favorite player of all these guys who are here.
I don't really like Ivy too much.
I don't like Turner too much.
Would you take Jackson over all more Norman Lockhanner?
Very different.
I'm basically I think I would take, I think I would take I think I would take
I'm OK with taking a lot here for this team, but I think Jackson is a slightly better player.
I don't I'm not wildly high on either of them.
But but also we're at the 63rd pick of the drafts.
So like this chat.
What did the chat think?
One more normal lot. They like a lot.
I see. I see a scatab lot. I see a scat of boo.
I see a scat of boo.
I just got a chat.
Just a slam pink scat of Elijah Arroyo getting a shout out.
All right.
So like I agree.
Adding to a title would be nice.
They have Kelsey already in the building.
Gray's right in the building.
And then Jared Wiley's there.
I like the Jared Wiley.
So it's hard.
Harry Wiley's got a chance.
That's the tricky thing.
Lots of the chats overflow a lot. Oh, it's just a lot of lots in the chat. So it's hard. Yeah, Wiley. Wiley's got a chance. That's the tricky thing. Lots. It's the chats overflow.
Oh, it's just a lot of lots in the chat. A lot of lots.
This heart. This this makes my heart full.
See an Omar Norman lot getting this love. All right.
Sixty three. Ben, you're on the clock here with the Philadelphia Eagles at number 64.
This will be your last pick and then we'll get you out of here
because we want to keep you all day.
We won't we won't with Sabon Rebel here at number 32 and number 64.
We pick it for the birds. Can I see edge really quick?
I just want to double check to see pick it for the birds. Can I see edge really quick?
I just want to double check.
See who's in the room. Of course.
I don't love Landon Jackson.
I get it with Femi Aladejo, but here's the problem.
He is not good at football right now.
Like it's like a year away from a year away.
So it's on blocks all the time.
Yeah, he just does not feel it.
I kind of like Stuart.
The testing has me very concerned.
I write, but he doesn't look like that on film.
I have no idea.
I wish we had like a visual on it, right?
Because it was like Will Johnson's pro day where he randomly ran a 40.
It was terrible. He did nothing else.
I feel like it's going to be something that happened.
I don't know.
Johnson like ran a practice 40 like on the track field
before he came over to the actual field and they just counted down.
Yeah, they're just like a canard.
Like I like the production,
but the film-wise, it didn't hold up for me.
I think the Eagles really want to come out of the trap
with the developmental edge,
but if Kevin Winston Jr. is still on the board,
I like Jordan Burch,
but if Kevin Winston Jr. is still on the board.
Jordan Burch.
And I can get a start,
I think I can get a starting box safety right now
to compete with Sydney Brown.
And then, because they lost Johnson Carter Johnson.
And then I can come back for developmental edge.
Remember like they had J-Lois Hunt in the third Remember like they had Joe's hunt in the third round,
they had Josh sweat in the fourth round.
They feel pretty good at their ability to identify
edge rushers like Morris around a hundred.
Thank you.
I'll take Winston Jr here.
That's a good wife.
Oh baby.
Oh wow.
Big shout out.
By the way, couch potato football coverage.
Thank you for a hundred dollars super chat.
No comment, just a hundred100, you're the man.
Mindor, those are all going at charity.
So we greatly thank you for that.
I think we can all agree that's
because I was here talking about Sydney Brown.
Kevin Winston Jr., very late foam watch for me.
Yes, I think if you finish the season
or if he was like, you know,
another year of experience in polish
to make some young mistakes, maybe like a clear top 40 top 40 if I pick at safety to get him at 64
I like a lot so Winston jr. Would be my selection for the Eagles
My hottest take this summer was having them safety one over Malachi and I think it was like a jarring gap
But that's how much I loved Winston. Yeah, and then he got hurt
He is a highly physical highly instinctive. He's intense with the requisite
Tools to be a good coverage player,
and there's plenty of reps of it.
And then he gets got by the stuff that guys get got by, right?
He gets got by good release moves and good moves to the top of the stem.
He gets stressed by three level flood.
It's like, okay, if he gets his head screwed on straight,
Vic Fangio, man, if he gets one year good coaching, that's the start in safety.
I like when he said a lot.
Ben, you're the man, Ben.
Thank you, man.
Thanks guys.
That was a lot of fun.
We really appreciate it.
I apologize for throwing the brakes on the show
for the first few picks before I learned the speed.
Hey, you know what?
We're all going through it together.
It's a live stream flying by the seat of our pants anyways.
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Basically in every single way over at ESPN. So then we appreciate you man. Thank you for Ben. Love you guys. Bye, buddy
You just you just click the
Leaf studio button you think that yeah, I think that probably do it. See you did I
Was thinking that he was gonna like click the X like mid-sentence.
He steps through a trap door
and he's on first take with Stephen A screaming at him.
It's the Gulag.
That's ESPN's Gulag.
It's a trap door and Stephen A Smith's already yelling
at you about something about LeBron, you know?
It's just like something.
And he's like, what, what, what am I?
You gotta answer it.
How do I get out of here?
People are throwing rocks at you, right?
From the second floor, like just in the gulag, you know?
Yeah.
All right.
That was a lot of fun.
That was, that was great.
That was great.
We got a couple more guests that I want to get to
at some point, but me and you, let's power through.
Let's, let's like just rock and roll.
Let's, let's power through a handful of these picks here.
So the New York Giants, they took a dual Carter
and Jalen Milro.
What are we thinking for them here at 65?
Okay. So we need somebody to play next to Dex.
Yeah.
And we also need a running back with Tyrone Tracy,
but I want to get that later.
Let's get somebody to play next to Dex.
Oh, CJ West is sitting right there.
That's a great pick.
I think let's do it. CJ West.
CJ West of the Giants.
You want to ping pong these? You want to take Chiefs and I'll think of rounds. Yeah great pick. I think let's do it. C.J. West, C.J. West of the joint. I want to ping pong these.
You want to take chiefs and I'll think around.
Yeah, yeah, yeah. I'll take the chief.
So Omar, Norma, Lange, Josh Simmons.
We just we love to see it.
I'm going to take it, dude.
I'm actually going to take Elkayo Maner, I think.
Let me let me make sure that I think I saw some love for that.
The last pick.
I mean, I mean, Rashid Rice, Xavier Worthy, Hollywood Brown.
Ain't none of those dudes. Elec I am a inner. I think that I think that's an excellent pit
for them and especially because like he can block his ass off. So I'm going to look I am
a inner here for the chiefs of 66 Brown 67. They took Travis Hunter, shooter Sanders,
Lejonte Wester, of course, Jimmy Orr Jr. Right? Got to try. I was missing Shiloh.
Yeah. And Will Shepherd, Will Shepherd, Will Shepherd.
Yeah. Let's look at running backs.
I'm almost positive I'm taking Caleb Johnson here.
I am. He's the fit for the scheme.
OK. Yeah. Good vision.
Patience outside zone. Zone scheme body.
And Raiders member we train train most what a draft.
What a draft.
Guess what I'm doing.
It's camp time.
Yeah, it is.
Man, is he just a Pete guy or what?
Like he walks in the building and Pete
just is grabbing him by the shoulders.
He sure as hell is, brother.
I'm taking scams, scataboo here at number 68 for the Raiders.
Ain't a damn thing you can do about it because I love their first two picks.
I think they really hit some massive needs there for them.
And in the third round, this is another huge, huge need for them,
making sure that they get their running back room figured out.
So I'm thinking scams,
cams catabou here at number 68.
Aaron, thank you for the super chat.
Why isn't Shamar Stewart, Ziggy Atsa?
I think Ziggy might've been,
I mean, it's not crazy by the way.
I don't make that clear.
Ziggy might had a little bit more agility,
but the production or lack thereof coming out of college,
the freakish athleticism, not crazy.
Noah Wood, thank you for the super chat.
Hello from a watch party in Lansing, Michigan.
Now that the summer mock has been done,
when is the IRL episode meetup happening?
We are going to keep working on that.
Patriots at 69.
I know we've sold a couple of different needs here.
Trevor, Will Campbell was the pick in the first round.
I believe we got a wide receiver in Jayden Higgins
in the second round.
That's just off the dome.
I think those are the two picks so far, right?
For the Patriots, I am
talking to an extra guest, but yes, sorry.
The picks. I was right.
OK, you were indeed, you know, ball sometimes.
Oh, man. Running back to be in play here.
Edge pass rusher could be in play here.
I don't hate Landon Jackson in this spot.
You could also go back to offensive line.
Let's see.
What's the position you want? Let's look at edge here.
All right.
Yes, Lord.
More online is definitely on the table.
Lot of Ozzy love, which I get.
Okay, so a lot of the names, a lot of the names I really like are gone.
I like just I steward a lot, but let's look at offensive line. OK.
I'm kind of leaning.
Oh, man, Trappello would be nice.
Trappello makes sense for them, even when Morgan Moses there, Morgan gets her every year.
Yeah, he's getting older.
I mean, Morgan Moses, how old now?
Thirty four.
Yeah, he is 34. Nice. Nice. Nice.
Sometimes I pay attention to the really bad jets.
All right, Ozzy.
Mylam getting a lot of love.
That's kind of cool to see.
I like Ozzy more than I like.
Yeah, it's a real tackle.
Mm hmm. Yeah, let's go crazy train.
All right, we're going to crazy train here.
Jags, Mason Graham, Matthew Golden.
Not bad, folks.
Man, not bad.
Ozzy, low moving cost.
Good shout out from the chat.
Great shout out.
Yeah, New England, Northeast stay strong.
We go Dylan Sampson here.
Will juice from running back room.
Samson territory we have entered.
Ooh, safety though.
We got, oh, Macuba.
Good player.
I kind of like it.
Good player.
They had a lot of breakdowns in the back end last year
that would not happen with Macuba back there.
I think I'm with Macuba.
Rock and roll.
Let's do it.
71 the Saints. Saints got
Dart and Chamar Stewart. I probably have to grab a wide receiver here. Who we got left?
Jalen Royles and Trey Harris. Trey Harris is something they don't have. So let's go Trey Harris.
Yep. Contest the catchability, physicality. Love the pick there for the Saints. Chicago Bears,
continuing the greatest mock draft
of all time.
Yeah, I mean really.
Josh Connerly, Nick Skorton.
I mean, what are we just picking for fun here?
Yeah, you are actually picking for fun here.
I mean, do we go like a royal?
You could.
What safety look like?
Cause I do get a little worried about brisker long term.
I don't they don't need to.
They don't have a fourth round pick.
Getting some love for safety in the chat, tight end.
Alfred Collins is gone, by the way.
They would have liked to mccuba.
He's gone. Darien Porter getting a lot of love.
Arroyo and Porter are getting the most love right now.
Okay.
Do we just hate Landon Jackson now?
I know it does feel that way.
It's not supposed to be.
They already got Nick Sorin.
Yeah, and I just I don't think that he's just a fit for them there.
I like Landon Jackson.
I really do.
There's when you do mock drafts, just like the real draft inevitably somebody's gonna fall like there's just, you know,
picks it'll happen. You sort of like go toward gravitate towards guys that you think the team's yeah happens every year. All right. So Elijah Arroyo and then who was the other one? Darien Porter? Yep.
What's their corner room look like?
It's expensive. I know that.
I guess it's Tyreek Stevenson, Jalen Johnson.
I guess they don't really have like that guy in waiting.
Behind them on the outside.
Yeah. And I know it's weird to say this at pick 72,
but Porter is an elite special teamer.
He is. If he's not playing right away, he I'm like elite,
elite special teamer.
So that's what you want in developmental or like a next man up kind of player.
Porter Arroyo, who do you think?
I'll give you the option here. Arroyo is more fun.
Porter is a little bit more pragmatic.
Let's see what the chat says. God, I see no not a corner, no shot.
And then I see Porter is the move literally back to back.
What we need, what we need And then I see Porter is the move, the literally back to back. That's amazing.
What we need, what we need is all right.
Or this is horrendous.
Or if it's not a royal, you guys don't know ball.
We need to go right.
We're going to Elijah Royal there.
You have seventy three.
I got to get a tackle at some point here and a wide receiver.
But let's look at the tackles.
I kind of like Marcus Bow.
I know he's he could play inside to the Royals.
Could have been everything they wanted Malachy or Malachy Corley to be.
I know that thick body. Yeah.
Actually, it might be Charles Grant here.
All right. You think it's too early?
No, not going to be there at 110.
No, I think we'll go on data.
They had a 30 visit with Charles Grant. I believe
it. Yeah, I think I think I go grant. All right. I think he's
a don't you think he's a real tackle with his length? Yes. And
his footwork. I think his foot. I think his footwork is good
enough to be I think cams feet are horrible. That's why I
didn't take him even though he's a right tackle. He's kind of
all over the place. Yeah, I go with I go with grant in the
spot. Okay, he's really I think he's really good. A lot of love in the chat for Bo. I'd go with, I'd go with Grant in this spot. Okay. He's really, I think he's really good.
A lot of love in the chat for Bo.
I get it.
I just think they'd want the size with Grant
and they had the visit with him.
But I get the people that love Bo,
I totally hear you out.
It's just that, do you think he's playing right tackle
with 32 inch arms at 300 pounds?
I don't.
Panthers.
We got Jalen Walker, we got Xavier Watts.
I don't mind Jalen Royals for this team.
Yeah. But does he sort of get lost in the shuffle there?
What about outside corner?
I actually. Oh, yeah.
Either of these guys could could be great.
Gary Porter or Azaria Thomas.
I think both of these guys could be be great. Gary Porter or Azaria Thomas.
I think both of these guys could be fantastic. Let's see, Carolina's.
Cornerback room, you got Mike Jack, you feel good about?
They want speed at wide receiver.
Is that what the chat's saying?
Yeah.
Definitely need that, but I think of the guys-
A lot of love for Porter too, by the way.
I think I'm gonna, I think I would
go Porter. Let's go Porter athleticism. Cause the speed speed and he used to play wide receiver.
That's very true. All right. We're going to Dairy and Porter there at 74 San Francisco, 49ers.
This is landed Jackson for me. Do it. Robert Sala rusher, Walter Nolan, Ariante,
Ursary, land and Jackson. Yeah, do it. We're good. We're doing good here, folks.
Dallas Cowboys, Ted McMillan, Treyvon Henderson.
I probably want a guard.
Oh, I probably want to run stuffer. OK.
I feel you.
Caldwell, I go or Phillips, Caldwell or Phillips.
Because I mean, you just you just got to be better run defense
than you were last year. Yeah.
And you've added no a lot of love for Milam and I get it.
See, I don't hate Milam.
I don't hate Milam at all.
Actually, that's a really good call by the chat.
I don't mind Milam here.
Alfred Collins is gone.
I feel like I say it every other day.
I know you guys can't see the pic, so I'm not mad, but I just here's your every 10 minute reminder.
Alfred Collins has been gone for two hours.
We just we just have like it just flashes on this day.
Alfred Collins is gone.
Alfred Collins is gone.
OK, so who did they want?
What did it?
Bo or Milam?
Mmm.
Which is funny, because Milam is training in Dallas.
I'm pretty sure.
Let me check one thing.
How often did the Dallas Cowboys run zone?
Let's see. What do we got here?
Well, now they have Travion to keep that in mind.
So even if your answer is low, it doesn't matter.
Five percent. Let's go, Marcus Bowe.
OK. Go, Marcus Bowe here for the Dallas Cowboys.
I think it's on the clock again.
All right. Running back has to be running back here.
Yeah. Dylan Sampson. Sure.
I like Dylan Sampson. Him or Damian.
I would I think Sampson's a better comment to Ramon
J. Stevenson, but if you don't think Ramon J.
Stevenson, they're long hauled.
Then I think maybe you could draft Amy Martinez.
I think both. I don't think he's there for the long haul.
But for the now, this is fine. Sampson draft Amy Martinez. I think both. I don't think he's there for the long haul,
but for the now, this is fine.
Samson's good.
Okay, all right, great with me.
I think Samson's really underrated in this class.
I really do.
He's all of a sudden become underrated,
which is weird, because it wasn't always like that.
Yeah.
Like for me, he's RB six, which is high praise in this class.
It's high praise, Nick Cage voice.
Steve Dillon Samson at 77.
Okay.
The Cardinals 78 Calvin banks, Prince of Monmy Ellen.
Any corner depth?
Uh, I mean, Azari is there.
Wow.
That's crazy.
He just doesn't play a lot of the zone stuff.
They play as all man.
Yeah.
And, and I'm pretty sure that parish too early, not for me, but they just don't like they have that guy.
So Clark, they have Melton, they have Garrett Williams.
They like all those guys can play slot.
So I would say no there.
And thank you for the super chat.
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Hell yeah, absolutely.
For those of you who are in the chat,
who maybe knew from when we started the chat,
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are going to go to one of two charities,
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throughout this entire show. That's where it's going. That
is where that is going. Who JC Allen saying Tampa traded for Thomas? Oh, good, good, good, good. Where's Tampa in all this 84.
What do they go? Okay. Offensively defensive line. Man, I just chat wants Royals. They
do want Royals. Yeah. I want Royals or Demetrius Knight. Oh. Which I really like.
Yeah, let's go Demetrius Knight. OK. He's my boy.
So you get the long term linebacker there, somebody who I think could be a mic
for you could also play will.
I know Dalton Washington likes him a little bit better as a as a will.
But I think he probably started as well.
You could play him in a mic eventually.
I think he grow into that role. I really do. Houston Texans.
We went to the Booker and Jalen know.
Now people are saying Alfred Collins, just a troll.
Yeah, I like that.
I've a college.
If is a good we go out for Collins here.
Think we go out for Collins here for the Houston Texans.
It's really good stuff.
It's actually an incredible bit.
Our fan base trolls us immensely and we do love them for it.
So we got the wide receiver, we got the guard.
Oh line again, developmental tackle.
I mean, do you take cam Williams?
Like just to take a swing?
She's not to start them right away.
Potentially.
I don't hate that.
I think he's going later, though.
I really do.
He really had a bad end of the season.
Yeah. Jack Sawyer made him look like a peewee player.
And Jack Sawyer, I don't even know.
Jack Sawyer is not still on the board.
So.
Let's see.
Tifa are getting some love. I was about to look at.
Okay.
But they have they have caged over.
They have Brevin Jordan.
They have Dalton Schultz.
I don't know if they would draft T for Jared Wilson's gone.
Jared Wilson is gone.
Shout out to Scandi for the same super chat again.
Ricky White not mentioned in the top 20 wide receiver episode
straight to jail.
Apologies.
I have caught up on Ricky White.
I do him ranked is solid.
I think he's fine.
He's fine.
I think he's a special team or in the NFL.
Oh, man.
I see a good one though.
No, he's excellent.
I actually go into your defensive line here for the Houston
Texans. A fatty. Yeah, probably go. Jamari. I though. Yeah. No, he's excellent. I actually go into your defensive line here for the Houston Texans.
A fatty.
Yeah.
Probably go a Jamari.
I go your boy.
Yep.
Jamari Colts at 80.
Mason Taylor, John Campbell.
Not bad.
If you like at SEC players that are pretty good.
Yeah, it's not bad at all.
Do they need guard?
Thank you for the super chat harps, the Rizler.
We don't know if he's making a pick. We haven't heard back from him yet.
Hey, guys, got a busy schedule.
It's everywhere.
Oh, yeah, Bo could be in play here.
Did we pick him?
Did we pick him? I'm losing it.
I got to get it together. I'm sorry.
Yeah, we did. We picked it when the Uncrustable hit.
So, oh, Milam.
Oh, could be my line here. Yeah. Yeah. Love this.
Love this. My own.
Did the calls today.
Bengals 81.
Kenneth Grant, Jonas, have an idea.
What else we look in here?
Linebacker long term.
Chris Pupol, who is a outlier with lengthens like lengthen size wise, but he's
a good football player. Yeah. Josiah Stewart getting overwhelming love for the Bengals.
Yeah, that's pretty fun. I mean, dude, what if what if they don't figure this out with Hendrickson?
Then what man? Really? We're going to Josiah Stewart here for the Bengals.
Shout out to Chad. He's still at the bar in Japan.
It's three thirty in the morning there.
He said with the Jags coming up, I would streak the field
with a stock exchange hat on if we get R.J. Harvey or Giddens.
Etienne falls off. Fall off needs to be examined.
Stay strong at the bar, Chad.
When do bars close in Japan?
Is it actually three a.m.? Do you say that?
Probably. It's Japan. It's the other side of the world.
Oh, three thirty a.m. There it is.
Chad, just make sure you Uber or whatever they, you know,
it probably have Uber.
They probably something way better left, whatever. Yeah.
I think I'll go to a site.
I'll go to a site.
See right here. I'm not sure.
I have never been.
I've never been less afraid.
No, I'm great.
I've never been more in the mind to compete.
We have about 200 more picks to go.
Everything's fine.
See, Ox 82.
We got a wide receiver and two interior offensive linemen, if I remember correctly.
Yeah. Am I right?
You did. Yeah. Yeah. Correct.
Kyle Williams and Jerry Wilson.
This is it. I don't I don't I don't care what you say.
Great draft for this.
For this. It's it's it's what the doctor ordered.
They are going to want to draft the corner.
I think they had these are 18. We write drafts are a Thomas. Yep. I think they. That's the Zaria team.
We draft Zaria Thomas.
Yep.
I really do.
Physical as hell.
Yep.
The Steelers 83.
They would have loved this.
They would have loved this.
Public transit.
I, by the way, I can't believe we still have
over 3,600 people here watching.
I thought the drop off would hit after.
I really do.
I really do too.
Thank you everybody.
You guys are unbelievable.
Steelers at 83.
DB. Yeah, I mean, they would have loved
the Zarya Thomas, but, you know, yeah, that's how the draft goes.
Yeah. Yeah.
Yeah, I can't get wrecked.
Looked, unfortunately.
Oh, man. No, I really like Parrish a lot.
I think he's really good.
OK, all right.
And he played mostly outside,
but the slot snap showing can play inside.
Wow, Martinez getting a ton of love here.
Ooh.
Damien Martinez.
Why, some people are saying wire receiver. People are saying the public transportation in Japan
is phenomenal, which I love to hear that
as a man of public transit myself.
Dude, we're thinking about going to Japan on our honeymoon.
I would be very jealous.
It's on a short list of me for bucket list things.
I would love to go to Japan, it'd be awesome.
I don't, oh, Jalen Royals is still here for the Steelers.
Yeah, the chat really wants Damien Martinez.
You know, who are we to take that?
Let's just make him happy.
All right, Damien.
We're we're our pace is so good right now.
I'm OK. I do.
Shout out to Jado, who said perish.
Just me and you left in this world, buddy.
I want to need this life of sin. Is me and you think we want world, buddy. I want to even this life is in.
Is me and you think we want to spend time with our families.
Grow up, Peter Pan. This ain't Neverland.
That's from Wisco Super Chat.
Holy smokes.
Oh, true words, never.
Daniel, thank you for the super chat.
I would love to summarize the first year.
Answer you. We summarize the whole thing when Solak joined.
And the chat was kind of like,
do you guys have to do this every time?
So we're gonna try not, we're not gonna,
but this is gonna be on our live section of our page.
You can go back and scroll every pick.
So we'd love to, but we just don't,
literally don't have the time.
We're just hammering through.
Bucks84, Ezraku, Karstens, Wessinger.
I think this could be a Jacob Parrish spot.
Oh, you are keeping him for yourself.
I love that move.
100% Yeah.
Love that move by you.
If there's anything I am, it's devious.
It's aiming. You played that so well.
Yeah. 100% You have to have him now.
Yeah. Yeah. Yeah.
I think he could play outside.
I think you could also play in the slot.
He could start in the slide.
You can kick Tyke Smith back to safety.
Chad's walking back.
He's fine.
Who's walking?
Oh, Chad's walking back.
Okay, all right, feel good about it.
Feel good about it.
Shamar Turner's there.
Chad likes, they like Jacob Parrish and Alfred Collins here.
Jacob Parrish?
Jacob Collins?
All right, I'm going with Jacob Parrish and Alfred Collins here. All right, I'm going to Jacob Parrish.
People really like Noel Williams. I was cooler on Noel than I expected to be. But I was.
Sometimes you got to be wrong. I guess maybe I'll be wrong.
I thought you were talking to other people. I thought you were like, hey, you know what, guys?
Sometimes you got to be wrong, sometimes you gotta be wrong.
No, no, no. And you guys are wrong.
And that's OK.
I should do that.
That would have been a really good heel move from me.
Oh, OK. We have the perfect pick here for the Broncos.
It's Jared Ivy.
Jared Ivy can play inside and out.
Did the testing scare you? No.
OK, good for you. I'm a coward.
When I saw the testing, I was like,
Okay, okay.
Man, that's bad.
Here's the thing.
I don't think he's an edge rusher.
Yeah, because he's heavy.
I think he's a three, four defensive end or more inside.
And that's exactly what the Broncos want and need.
Well, yeah, John Franklin Myers
is unhappy with his contract.
Jared Ivy immediately upgrade for next year.
I like Ty Robinson in that role, just for future compensation. I also like Ty Robinson, but I like Jared Ivy immediately upgrade for next year. We like to have Robinson in that role just for future.
I also like Ty Robinson, but I like Jared.
I even more. OK, if you don't put Jared Ivy in a situation
where he has to win on one on one with speed consistently to the outside shoulder,
then I think you get a hell of a football player.
The chat is realizing that we're starting to lose it.
The Burning Ham Super Chat, thank you.
You're losing it already.
And it's wonderful.
Crocki said a Seahawks draft like this is better than sex.
Slentzy again is Audra Castamé still on the board.
All right.
No, he's not.
No, he's at the top of the depth chart.
Loveland Swinson.
Loveland Swinson.
So they're really going to town on their needs.
I got your guy.
You ready for it?
OK.
Ready for it? Jordan Phillips. Boom. You ready? OK, OK. Ready for it.
Jordan Phillips. Boom.
Yeah, that's the beef.
Yeah, he's a championship power lifter at some point.
He is indeed. He is.
I think it was surprising declared, but it's OK.
I think it's underrated.
The loss of Pune Ford on this team.
I my God, what a swipe from their rival in town, the Rams.
So, yeah, just like Mets their rival in town, the Rams.
So yeah. Just like Mets Yankees, Rams Chargers.
So we could go Jordan Phillips or Jalen Royal is here, right?
And I think that, yeah, we drafted Coleson Levin,
but you can get another receiver here
that maybe you feel really good about.
What do you think?
Let's take a receiver later.
OK, although Royals is good, he is a good football player and there's not going to be another Royals.
Oh, all right.
I think I kind of talked myself into a full turn on it.
I think I take Royals.
Joan Rose, it is.
There's a lot of beef that I like later in this draft.
Packers, bane of our existence.
What have we done for them?
Ohio State duo.
Yeah.
Okay.
They have to have a corner, right?
This has to be Williams.
Yeah, okay.
That's fine.
I think this has to be an outside corner.
They have to have somebody who could play outside.
He's got the size.
He's going to hit the thresholds.
Everything's there for him.
We're going to Williams.
Okay.
Jagss 88.
What was the line depth if they draft R.J. Harvey?
Wasn't that? Oh, yes.
R.J. Harvey's the pick here.
I forgot, which is this is a pick I did in a three rounder.
I wrote for NBC. I really like this fit.
Use their backfield, some juice that it doesn't have anymore.
Oh, but hold on.
How am I talking you into our?
Look, I love Harvey.
What in God's name has happened?
But does is your boy should we go with your boy T for here?
Because you can get running back a little later.
They got a fourth round pick.
OK, sure.
Disappoint all of Duvall.
It's fine.
All right. My problem.
I don't have to carry that around.
Right. R.J. Harvey 88. You think that I you think that I am gonna be scared to carry the agenda?
J Alex, he's scared to march the line
Thank you for the super chat. My daughter loved hearing about your slot edge position
She wanted to play football so she could hit people so I told her to be a linebacker
But she wanted to play offense. She asked if she could be an offensive linebacker
Yes. Yeah, absolutely.
It's called fullback.
Yeah.
Brian Cushing was we're getting a lot of Kyle canard.
Kyle canard.
That's yeah, I wasn't ready for that for the Jags or for the
Texans.
I can't I can't tell.
Well, what are we doing for the Texans?
Oh line again. Yeah. I can't I can't tell. Well, what are we doing for the Texans?
O line again, yeah.
A developmental tackle or a center.
Cam Williams, Cam Williams.
I don't hate it. Yeah, he's the
developmental tackle in this draft.
Take him away, sir. OK, Rams.
I like that you're like the conviction
you're operating with right now.
This is good.
What speed?
Yeah.
And you just feel you feel good about it.
You're not second guessing it.
No, no, no, no.
From the hip.
It's all.
It's all.
Yep.
Yep.
Jimmy McGinty.
Wow.
Here's the pole.
Shout the replacements.
Footsteps Falco from Ohio. Pick 90 Los Angeles Rams.
We gave them Jode Baron and that's all they have right now.
This is where T-Ford goes off the board, maybe?
Yeah.
Ooh, they could use linebacker as well.
I know.
What's there?
Ooh, Pupal's there.
Pupal, yeah.
Yeah, cool.
Easy, easy.
Ravens, Starks, TJ Sanders.
Ravens fans, what are we doing here?
Edge rusher, outside corner.
Shuck is still on the board people.
A lot of Shuck combo in the chat.
Kyle Canard.
Oh, Canard, could, could.
They need an edge rusher.
I'd like somebody with a little bit more,
little more pure pass rush ability, but
somebody with a little bit more a little more pure pass rush ability. But.
Uh, like, I don't think he's a great pass rusher.
Well, this neither is he.
Not that there's a lot of those.
Like, actually is their type, the big body, he is their type.
Yeah, he is.
Yeah. All right. We're going Jordan Birch.
The Ravens there. Seattle again. Yeah. he is. All right, we're going Jordan Birch. The Ravens there. Seattle again.
Yeah, stop drafting.
Can we go BPA here?
Yeah, Shemar Turner.
Yeah.
What's BPA?
Shemar Turner.
Or T-Ferg.
The Ferg.
Oh yeah, because we thought about Loveland for them and we didn't do it.
We did.
Yeah, this is Ferguson.
This is absolutely Ferguson.
Yeah.
Sort of low moving costs.
It kind of is.
You could rent the car and drive.
You can make it.
You can make the drive from Eugene to Seattle.
I think that this could be the case.
It's doable.
All right.
The Saints, 93.
Chamar Stewart, Jackson Dart, Trey Harris.
I think I'd get a fat defensive tackle with all due respect.
Or O-line, what do you think, O-line?
Oh, we didn't touch O-line.
Yeah, we didn't.
Yeah.
Because their left guard situation I do not like.
Don't mind Anthony Belton?
Don't mind it.
You know who I like in this,
who really grew on me in this draft,
Dillon Fairchild actually,
but that's not who I was going to say for left guard.
Jalen Rivers is pretty good from Miami. I don't. Oh, yeah.
And he's their type, too. He's huge. He's huge. He's nasty.
There's some times where I'm like, maybe he's not going to be a long term tackle.
But I feel really good if you have to kick him into guard.
I like Belton here as well. Belin is the same
story as Rivers, just a better version. Then we're taking Belton. With all that said,
like a approach from me, a couple of nice picks here. We took Donovan Jackson for them.
They could use a running back. I believe Caleb Johnson is on the board. No, I took him to the Browns. God damn you. I know I'm an absolute rat bastard.
Super chat from Ian McIntyre,
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Thank you, Colin.
Thank you, Kings doing God's work.
Jack Link's Buffalo and Ranch duo is our fire.
Found them at Wawa.
Keep my giants in mind.
Well, we will keep them in mind.
They'll be up again.
Okay. All right.
We have a really good giant skits joining us for day three.
We do.
Okay. What are we thinking here for Minnesota?
Running backs.
It was still talent.
You just, you got scared.
You like kind of took your ball and went home
when Caleb Johnson wasn't there.
I mean, cause they just, they just signed Mason, Jordan Mason.
So you have Jordan Mason.
So it's like, okay, well, it's good enough.
Your upgrade, you know what I'm saying?
It's good enough. Yep.
What, who do we have for them so far?
Just don't have a reaction.
Oh, you need something for, you need something
for Flores here.
D-line?
Or corner, but the corner board's bad.
I know that. The board's not great.
D line.
Yep, Turner.
Rod could be there.
Her brother is very is very disruptive.
Really don't mind it. Yeah, yeah.
Yep. Chiefs Simmons, one more number lot.
OK, I mean, let's let's take a speed demon running back or some kind of athletic
running back. OK, so this is Giddens and blue.
Jaden blue. Yeah.
Yeah. Those swing passes.
They run with him over and over again.
Yep. Yep.
Savonne Revelle.
We're so locked in right now.
It's scary.
Eagles.
Interior O-line.
Yep.
A guard.
Fairchild.
Georgia.
Raw.
High school champion wrestler.
Or jail and rivers. What you were talking about before because the flexibility
with tackle where Fairchild's only a guard. Right.
What do you well, yeah.
And if Lane got her.
OK, I'm cool. Rivers.
All right. We'll go down the rivers here.
Vikings up again.
Oh, we didn't.
Uh, what's their corner room like?
They could use corner. It's not great.
I've taken rebel for them in the first round so many times.
OK, all right. All right.
Let's see corner.
Dorian Strong is actually a scheme fit for them.
He is who's deeper.
I think. But what about Kobe Bryant?
If you believe he could play it that way, then yes.
I do. I'm drafting Kobe Bryant.
OK. Miami Dolphins at 98.
Will Johnson out for Collins in hand?
I need this is where I would take Fairchild.
OK, I think he's a good scheme fit for them.
Yeah, that's the move.
OK. Fairchild at 98 for the for the Miami Dolphins.
Giants science. Oh, what a draft.
Yes, is a really good draft. Let's go online again trying to
Yeah, we didn't take online for them yet, right? No
Willie Lampkin the goat fullback Willie Lampkin
Man the online board really thinned out, huh?
It does. It does. It thins out. It really does.
Oh, Miles Frazier.
Yeah, he's he I need to move him up.
He's one of the guys saying you move Miles Frazier is by far my pick here.
OK, all right. We'll do it.
Miles Frazier, we need to move him up.
I need to move him up on the board.
I just have been doing other things.
My bad.
Walter Nolan, Ariante, Aerosery, Atlanta Jackson I was Frazier. We need to move him up. I need to move him up on the board. I just have been doing other things. My bad.
Walter Nolan, Ariante, Ariceri, Landon Jackson
for the Niners. Skoll Vikings from Italy.
Thank you, Emmanuel Fadelli.
Wow.
Wow.
Getting some love from him.
Thank you everybody.
We love that.
Pat Cufal from Canada, Two Hours of Miami.
I want to give my thanks for making my job
a lot more fun.
Listen to you guys.
Thank you. Thank you, man.
We appreciate it.
Walter Nolan, Aaron, Terris, Relanda Jackson.
I don't know.
What do you think for the night?
This is Giddens.
Oh, okay.
This is Giddens.
Okay.
This is the round three running back
that they always draft.
With insane athleticism profile.
Why is this? Yeah. Yeah.
Do we have a tight end who's still on the board here for the Rams?
I fanning junior.
I think I think I know how mad the sprained ankle at the combine.
I think teams will come back around on him.
Mitchell Evans is solid.
Let's go home. I got to go. No, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, No, no, no, no, no, no. I was going to do the fan and
thing and I want to take fan it. I'm gonna fan it. Oh, he didn't get into top 100. He
went one on one. No, it's fine. All right. So fan and to be a little bit of a virtual
offensive weapon and then Detroit Lions. You want to take rat l, Michael Williams. Receiver.
Torrey Horton, who, man, that could be nice for the Pat Bryant, your boy, both the fits.
I like Pat Bryant for them.
Let's go with Pat Bryant.
No, if he's going to go one or two, but Pat Bryant,'t think he is either because I think there'll be speed concerns, but.
Yeah. I kind of mean to worry.
What about Andrew Armstrong?
I you don't have to talk me into him.
I think he's awesome.
Then let's draft him.
I think that I think that so talk a little bit about him,
because I'm going to set up our next guest.
Yeah, Armstrong is one of those guys who turn on the film and it's just it's notable how different
he plays and from an intensity profile, like he has a really good catch radius that he plucks the
ball away from his body. He plays perimeter wide receiver because Isaac Tesla is their slot.
I think he's runs pretty hard after the catch. He's a good blocker. He's not afraid to go over
the middle of the field. He can win in contested situations. Armstrong is one of the most underrated players in the entire
draft, in my opinion. I mean, he had a thousand yards in the SEC and nobody cares. I don't know.
So it's sad. It's yeah, it's it's actually bothers me. I can tell. I can truly tell. All right. I'm
sending the link to our next guest. We're gonna try to get a next guest.
We won't recap all the picks when we get to that, but.
That will keep it rolling.
I'm gonna see if we can get them in there.