NFL Stock Exchange: An NFL Draft Podcast - Live 7-Round Mock Draft: Part 3, Rounds 4-5

Episode Date: April 20, 2025

Part two of Trevor Sikkema and Connor Rogers' FULL 7-Round mock draft marathon. They are joined by Jon Ledyard and Mike Renner to help complete rounds 4 and 5.

Tennessee Titans. Can't were Luther Burton. That's actually sick. It's unbelievable. It's filthy. It's quite good. God, Kyle Canard. Little little pass rush.

I'm just not high on him, but like- Yeah, but it's round four. But the theory, yeah, you're right, I gotta stop doing that. You know what I'm saying? Like a lot of these guys, we think about is like, oh, when we do like a two round mock draft, do I love him in the second round?

No, we just started round four. That's fair, go Canard. I think Canard's a good one. I think Canard's a good pick here. I think Jilani's better. Oh, okay,'s a good pick here. I think you lot is better. Oh, OK. All right. So hold on. Hold on. Round four. Who should the Titans draft?

Let's let's get the chat back in here. Let's get the chat likes Gelati and Shamar. Shamar. OK. All right. There's some some pushback. July doesn't fit their type, and then the rest of the chat likes Gelati, Gel gelato adagio. Waltz and as a whole, only day. Oh, wait, are a lot of people giving the old day.

Oh, love for this spot. Femi taking the chance on him. I mean, this is the actual lawyer gelati. Let's go with a Femi Oladejo. All right, we'll go with them here. He's got the flashes. Three hours. We haven't gotten up to pee. Pfft. Light work.

Nothing to it. I might have to get up to get more water, but I'm OK. I'm OK. The shack with the with the chip meme takes a bite. It's like it's nothing to me. Ah, that's baby. He's a meme machine. I do love that that TNT show exists, man.

Oh, it's incredible. East, Easton Freeze does a great job covering the Tennessee Titans said, Femi Odejo is the only choice there. So we got the seal of approval from Easton. Love that you're in the chat Easton. Appreciate you. Thank you, Easton.

Let's see. Wait, all right, next guest. Before we get to the Cleveland Browns here, you know him from the early Lockdown NFL Draft days. You know him. Oh, hell yeah. From his work at the Draft Network. You know him now from incredible podcast work that he does

with Olly Conley over at Audibles and Analytics. Here's the one only John Leder folks. John, welcome to the stream area. Welcome to the stream. Hey, thanks for having me, guys. I'm around for some live stream. I'm excited. This is going to be a ton of fun.

I can't believe you guys are doing this seven, six hours. What the heck are you guys looking like? It's going to go about six hours. Yeah, we're thinking that it's probably going to go about six hours here. John, I intro'd you about two hours ago as the man who is a certified 100% Mason Graham should go undrafted in this draft type of draft analyst. And so to welcome you to this film. Wow, I didn't think you were talking about John. I was talking about John.

I thought you were talking about EJ. You didn't say my name. You should see the text messages I have between this guy. I'll go to war with him. He's invited to my wedding. He's a wonderful friend would give my life for him. But now I'm not so sure. Give me my take on Mason Graham. No, I wouldn't. I absolutely wouldn't. So we had Mason Graham go five to the Jags. I do like, like, like really quick. I, you, I respect so much of your take when it comes to

defensive line play in general. I've learned so much your take when it comes to defensive line play in general. I've learned so much from you when it comes to defensive tackles and edge rushers and just following your work and everything over the year. So Mason Graham, talk to me about him. What he does well, what he doesn't do well. I just want to hear it. I just want to hear it from you. Yeah, really twitchy defensive tackle who I think relies a lot on that first step to win Yeah, really twitchy defensive tackle who I think relies a lot on that first step to win and get through gaps, playoff guys, even to get early advantages like hands on. He's got to win first contact, right? Because his length, he's not going to outreach people if he doesn't win first contact.

So very, very important that that type of player be a premier elite athlete. And certainly get some good snap timing. I think he does surprise people. He kind of can blur across the face and do some things that I really value as a player, which is just for the record for Feebo. I actually have a high second round grade on him. So probably be like in the late 20s on my board, just to be clear. But yeah, in five, where I get to sort of him with his evaluation is this player type, if you look at the guys he gets compared to are either elite, premier, all-time athletes at this position. Aaron Donalds, even the Kalaja Kanses, if you want to go, you know, a player who wasn't rated quite as highly, but has

like the similar like characteristic. Now he's bigger than some of those guys, bigger, weighs more than those guys. I'm not sure that that's an asset to him on tape because of when you watch him, how he wins is how those guys win. That's how he wants to win as a player. He doesn't really bulldoze. He doesn't really play the power game with guys. He will physically try to bull rush and bully people, but a lot of the time that ends up with him on the ground. That ends up with him not being able to overpower guys and get overpowered. And then in the run game, he gets moved off the ball a lot. So he's going to be a liability on some of your downs. I think that part, I feel more confident in

saying than anything else. The question is, does the pass rush stuff make up for it? To me, that's the big question mark with him. I think that there's some signs that he could be a guy who gets some sacks, but isn't an overall impact down to down player, which is why I kind of have him in this range. But he's talked about sort of as if he's a special type of prospect, a tier one type of prospect, not just in this draft, but in general, when talking about this position and guys who've come through in recent years, I just don't see him as that level of a player or door. I feel as confident in him hitting as I do other defensive tackles, top defensive

tackles in the past. I knew that you would not be alone as much as I troll you for it. And there are some people in the chat who feel a little bit vindicated of where they're at. So, okay. All right. So let's, let's run through this. Cleveland Browns at 104.

They've taken Travis Hunter, Chidur Sanders, Caleb Johnson. What are we thinking here, Connor? Oh man. So we've loaded up on the offense because I think they're going to play Hunter at wide receiver and then the DB aspect is kind of a TBD. He's made his point clear. Probably got to help the defensive side of the ball at some point and their offensive line needs more depth. I mean, this is a unit that's kind of falling apart. I think so too. Yeah. It's really hard on them because Hunter's playing wide out for them, right? That's what it sounds like. Yeah. Yeah. So I mean, at some point who's on the board here on the, on the D line, who do we have kind of,

let's see D line. Shemar Turner, Kyle, canard, Elijah, Robert, Jack Sawyer, your favorite, uh, Jordan Phillips, Ashley Jolotti, saving Jones, Baron Sorrell. Yeah. Saving Jones is a player grew on me sort of late in the process. I don't know if he's, I like saving Jones. Yeah. I'm a fan the player grew on me sort of late in the process. I don't know if he's a good save. Yeah. I'm a fan of him. I wonder if how Cleveland would see him kind of inside outside potential maybe on long and late downs. They love to run for as a front and get after the quarterback that way. So he could be a fun potential at weather positions. Were you thinking about offensive line? Yeah. It's your offensive line depth. Probably. Yeah. Not the best class

for it, but who do we have on the board for their Steph McLaughlin centers? Yeah. Yeah. Yikes. I know the helmet scout Seth McLaughlin. We go in Jordan Phillips. I guess we are in the fourth round. Are we? Yeah. Yeah. That's the thing. You got to remember. You got to remember that part of it. Connor, who's your favorite D lineman for this? Because we can't draft O line. I mean, we'd be we'd be overdraft in the crap out of these guys, I think. Just in terms of talent, probably Shamar Turner. All right. All right.

In terms of talent, he's a little different because he's more of attack mode rather than like, you know, hold the point of attack kind of guy. But that would be my favorite in terms of talent. Okay. Let me see who's there at D line right now. Molly Collins, Shelby Harris, Michael. Now I'm going to drop smart Turner. I'm going to March right here for Cleveland. The giants we've had them take up dual Carter,

Jalen Milro, CJ West and miles Frazier. That's a heck of a hall there boys. Yeah. But we, we, yeah, you're banking on Milro, but I love C.J. West. Miles Frazier, all he was just talking him up to me. I got up my eye on a little bit of his tape, man. That guy gets out. He's good. Yeah, he's good at all.

Corner. Yeah, no, they I like them at corner right now. They spent a lot of money on a debo. It's got to be better from type type banks, but the GM drafted them. So you're not going to bench them. Yeah. But again, it's we're talking about that. You know what I'm saying? Yeah. So they need another outside because the other outside corners that they have are like Cordell Flau right now and then Art Green.

Yeah. OK. He also drafted Flaut, but this has been the problem. And he drafted Drew. They've spent like so much resource. I mean, bringing in Holland in a day, both all these recent picks. Yeah, I don't go as good last year. Yeah, I would have Mello or Dorian, one of these two. Who do they have so far that you said? Oh, Carter. Yeah, Carter's a difference.

I mean, that's a big pick for them. Carter and West, you feel like they're probably good at that and the deadline and adding those guys. Yeah. Carter's a difference. I mean, that's a big pick for them. Carter and Wes, you feel like they're probably good at that on the D line and then adding those guys. Yeah. I'm drafting Melo Dotson. I'm just doing it. Yeah. Because we can't, why not spend 10 minutes on every pick? The, the New England Patriots. Well, Xavier Ostrotpo is the next Julian Edelman and Wes Welker, right? So I mean, I should just draft him. You know, you know, they're already gone. Higgins, huh? Okay. This is the Patriots hall. Yeah. We'll, we'll Campbell, Jayden Higgins, Ozzy, Chipillo, Dylan Sampson, taking a tackle to center convert it into the fourth overall pick is a, that's a,

wow. That's a big take right there. All right. All right. Calm down. I already laid out, I already laid out, you as a hater for one prospect that we love him with. He's not a tackle. And I think they're going to draft him as a tackle. I think you're probably right there. And then I think they're going to play him there and I think he's going to be good. Oh, all right. Okay. We'll see the 32 inch arm King. What's the, uh, what's the, no, no, no, no, no, no. The combine was wrong. 33 inches at the protein.

Isn't it funny? His wingspan was smaller, was smaller and incredible. I think they're just measuring from a different part of the world. They do it like, come on, Patriot. Hell. All right. Are we going? Ooh, gelati here. I thought I did.

We now take gelati. I don't think we did. Did we? Oh, I thought I really wanted him. I thought I did. We now take Jilani. I don't think we did. Did we? Oh, I thought I really wanted him. I thought I know. OK, he's pretty. Yeah, he's old school Patriots type, right? I mean, isn't he?

Yeah, he's like, you know, he's like 85 percent. He's like 85 percent hindquarters. That guy redefined him. It's incredibly true. Jacksonville 107. Mason Graham, your favorite, Matthew Golden, Andrew McHuva, RJ Harvey. Gosh, I love the rest of the draft.

It's a pretty sweet draft. Yeah, I'm a big McHuva guy. Golden is awesome. Yeah, you should be. What are the needs here? We got tight end. Yeah, what do we got to tight end? Be more like a blocking guy to play with.

Brenton's strange boy, Benjamin Urusek, fourth round. Talk to me about it, Trevor. Like, why are all the haters out here? Call it here on Ben. No, but I definitely don't think he's better than Mitchell Evans. I do have a bit of love. I do too think he's better than Mitchell Evans. I do have a bit of a lot of money to really. I like Mitchell Evans. Yeah, I have. Yeah.

Around three and I have Evans. Connor knows I've been talking about it this whole season. I've been like, do you have you're like, why is nobody talking about him anymore? I was like, man, I'll tell you what, John, three years ago, I thought he was going to be that guy. Like when his first summer scouting for us at Stanford, I was like, this is the guy right here. So he really did look like he was on his way to that.

I don't feel like the player changed that much. The usage changed a lot. That's exactly right. Unless that's what we don't know. But that's God. We got to get canard and Sawyer off the board soon because the comment section is going to revolt. Listen, ask the comments to to describe what Jack Sawyer did against.

Who's a, what are you, are you guys Marcus bow fans? I like, we got him off the board. He's like, or what he is. He went to Dallas. I'm lower on both. So maybe if there's a guard, but he bow did pretty well against Sawyer. I thought, okay. All right. Hold on. I have the, all right. Continue to talk here because I have to send our I have to send an invite to our next guest really quick. Would the Jaguars take an edge here? Who have you guys given them so far? You said Macy Graham Graham is the only defender we gave them. I know we went golden. Oh, Macuba.

Which is that's my favorite pick for them so far. In strange is strange. They're only tight end. Now I'm trying to remember because I think so. Hold on. I think I have the roster open still. They could honestly be a sneaky tight end team. I don't know that they would go for any of the edge guys that are. Dude, I think I think Warren is in play for them at five. You really you think it's like not the favorite, but I think it's the sleeper.

Yeah, this guy did he did he tray who says Sawyer future accountant? Man, come on. Hey, show me the line. It's not easy to become an accountant. OK. So let's not just assume that. Yeah, let's not assume he could even be an accountant. Yeah, it's I had to take a couple of those classes. It sucks. Connor's Connor's raising the banner for all accountants out there.

Yeah, finally, someone's defending us. Yes, your accountants need to bend at all. I just OK. All right, hold on. I have our I have another guest here that I want to that I want to add to the show. She's heard enough of the Kyle Kennard slander as a USC grad. This is calling her my better half would be selling her short. This is in my best Borat voice.

My wife. Let's go. How is Kyle Canard still on the comments? Are you all these accounts in the comments right now? I don't know. I haven't been watching much. I'm sorry. Sorry, babe.

Get ready for the gymnastics national championship here in Fort Worth. How the hell is Kyle can are still on the board? Look, he doesn't have to be right now because come on, Trevor. Heart not not not the New York Jets, but the Jacksonville Jaguars are on the board and the chat is screaming Kyle can art to the Jacksonville Jaguars. So I wanted to have you on to officially make the pick to get your Kyle Canard to your Jacksonville Jaguars. That is my second NFL team.

If I had adopted a team after the Jets, it would be the Jacksonville Jaguars. So what pick are we on? I mean, I wanna make it sound official. I can't really- We wanna do it live. We are picking- The Jacksonville Jaguars. So what pick are we on? I mean, I want to make it sound official. I can't really do it alone. We are picked. We are in the fourth round pick 107 from the Jacksonville Jaguars. Wow, y'all are flying.

With the 107th pick of the NFL Stock Exchange draft, the addict select Kyle Kennard. Wow, there it is. The Duval. There it is, we even got the Duval in there. An actual good Duval. No, seriously, I can't wait to ball in there. An actual good do ball. No seriously, I can't wait to see where Kyle Kennard goes.

You guys, I kind of stopped paying attention to football once basketball season starts. That's Trevor's job in our household. But in all seriousness, the amount of SEC offensive coordinators who as we were getting ready for games all season long, we're like, I don't know what we're going to do about Kennard. Oh yeah, and then Stewart's on the other side. Obviously Stuart will be a guy you guys are talking about in a couple of seasons. But Kyle canard, you talk about the transfer portal get of the 2024 college

football season, what a beast. I would love to see him in Jacksonville. They give you great. Look, the hell of it. I think this is a hell of a pass rush rotation that you now have for the Jets. I mean, anybody watches tape against Will Campbell? If you like Will Campbell, you think it's that Will Campbell was a disaster. It's tough.

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So you can see Alyssa break down gymnastics and whoever's feed our family. Yeah, feed our feed our family, please. As if this mock draft isn't doing it enough. Love you, babe. Good luck today on your show. You'll have fun. Wow. Thanks, Alyssa. Fourth round already. I can't wait to watch more. Bye, guys.

See you. Well, man, the comment that said they are absolutely not flying was a great comment. Hey, we have been, you know, we got a super chat from Mongolia. Shout out to Mongolia. Oh, I think you're kind of flying. I mean, you're in fourth round and we're OK. Right. Like because they want to have as much analysis later on the pig. You won't even know the guy.

I mean, you guys might. I'll be like, who's that clown? Take a bite. Jack talking about Jack Sawyer again. Yeah, so we finally so we finally got Kyle Canard off the board. Pick one of seven as Alyssa announced there. The Raiders, John Armand, Mimbu at six, Trey, most of 37. And me personally on a silver platter serving them up. Camp Scataboo in the third round. Well, other than giving them a full back in the third round,

this is really good. God, it feels good to have backup for once. I'm sending you, I'm sending you Mike All-Stat highlights at 8 a.m. every single morning and being like, oh, I guess we don't want this guy anymore. I guess we don't want him. I guess football's moved beyond Mike Alstott. Kind of, kind of maybe. Yeah. I'll always remember. No, I think, I think he's a solid player. Any of the fact that he can catch and help in the past passing game, I think is an asset to, I just think Amos is awesome. That's a great

pick. If he's even there at 37, he's picking up steam, Memboo tackle one for me. Like I'm a big fan of this hall that you guys have, I've got so far for the Raiders and I think it's what they should do. We'll see if I don't know if I feel that great about them going running back in the first round as good as Gent is, but what about wide receiver here? What do we have on the board? Well, we got a, okay. Like guys who could actually run. Okay. We got Savion Williams, Isaac Torrey, Torrey Horton still here. That's interesting. Tori Horton. Don't hate it. That seems like sort

of what they need, right? I mean, they have a Jacobi Myers type, like a possession guy, like they can take short intermediate play inside outside. They sort of need a flyer, don't they? They need a guy who can stretch a little bit or they need a big body. What do you guys think they need? Speed would be nice to kind of put a flyer, don't they? They need a guy who can stretch a little bit or they need a big body. What do you guys think they need? Speed would be nice to kind of put a little pressure on the heels of the defense. Like that'd be that'd be Ty Felton. Now, this is early for me, for Ty. So, I mean, I'd start to think like Deontay Thornton.

Right. It's just early. If you look, it is. It's a go. You're right. It's sort of early. Right. I mean, like fourth round and beyond, you're picking the types of players you need, not necessarily like, I try to tell people this all the time.

It's not necessarily the rank on the big board. It is a little bit, but when you get into day three, it's so much more about like the type of player you need. And that's why teams boards are so much smaller than like mine or Danes or like whoever does these, or like obviously Connor's like whoever does like massive big boards, teams boards are so much smaller because it's so much more streamlined to what they need.

So like if we think that they need Deontay Thornton above like a Tory Horton, I don't have a problem with that. Yeah. What do you guys think? It makes sense to me from a process standpoint, unless it's another position that you want to do. I get it. I think these types of players just tend to go higher than we think they will.

Like, well, normally we'd see Thornton as like a late guy in the class. I think this would probably be about where people would start thinking about him. And specifically, you need the skill set. Somebody said in the chat, who is Dane? The one and only Dane Bruehler, author of the beast. Come on, guys. Come on. We got to know that. We got to be in our keys and cues here. Okay. So who is Dane? Uh, the one and only Dane Bruhler author of the beast. Come on guys. Come on. We got to know that. You gotta be in our keys and cues here. Okay. So who, somebody, somebody, Thornton Thornton. Okay. All right. All right. Bill is it, Bill

is it 109 Maxwell Harrison, Nikki Minwari, Darius Alexander. Oh man. All right. Uh, defense, defense, defense. So is now the wide receiver time. Yeah. We just took a wide out. What what kind of they need? That's the thing. Savion's interesting, like just as a player like he's really usage. Yeah. He'd be a different type of cat for them, for sure. I don't know exactly like what his best usage is.

I don't know if this is where they think of it. Are you Connor? Are you the Tesla guy? Are you guys like Tesla? I think I know Trevor does too, though. I actually like his teammate, though, who's already gone. Andrew Armstrong, a little better. Yeah, he's already gone. Interesting. Yeah, he's very impressive.

Yeah. Why do you mean tight ends? Oh, shit, I just realized that I have a misclick on. Did you? Yeah. Why do you mean tight ends? I just realized that I have a misclick on it. Yeah. Damn. Is on your ass right now. When you said when you said Thornton, I thought you said Horton. That's you got it. You got to give me the come on. No, this is you. This is yuck.

No, it's you. I'm sorry. But it is. It's what Tori Horton's good player. It's fine. No, I won't take it. Nobody's going to read that. I'm never going to know. I heard that one away. I'm never I'm not taking a point for it. I won't. Wow.

I thought it could be Dante Thornton for sure. These guys are morons. Closest assets. I really did. I thought you said I thought you said Horton thought the lower rank player would go for sure. A lot of, a lot of comments saying we got to just restart. Yeah, we got to restart so much for flying. Go back to one.

One. Did we, uh, did we land on a wide receiver? If you say Isaac Tesla, I'll obviously take Typhus. Let's go with John's idea of Savion just cause it's a different kind of player in their wide receiver room. All right. Yeah.

He's a quarter. All Patterson, two point out, right? Dude, I'm not kidding you. No, he really is. He's hilarious. Like, I mean, he literally will look like he has no idea what he's doing for 10 reps. Then he'll make like the craziest catch you ever see in your life. And you're like, oh, like, he's just like really talented.

Like whereas some of these other guys, I think they're big, long past, but they don't actually like catch the ball in a way that like compels me. I feel like Williams actually has some like crazy flashes. All right, so we're picking Savion Williams, the wide receiver from Texas Christian University. Don Daythorne is still on the board by the way. Still on the board. Unfortunately, he is still on the board. the way. Still on the board. Unfortunately he is still on the board.

His family's crushed. They called him and they were lying. He got pranked. He got pranked his draft room. They're watching right now. They're like this is your age. You're going early 4th of this. The guest picker comes out and says Tory Horn like what the.

Jet to 110. What are we doing here? Oh, that was that's the good stuff. Connor, you know, it's got to be wide receiver because that's just brutal for them right now. Yeah, I mean, I'd say Thorin. No, I just need a tight end, right? They got Warren. Yeah, like I said, they need a tight end.

Yeah. Yeah. You hate, right? They got Warren. Yeah. Like I said, they need a tight end. Yeah. Yeah. You hate, you don't like Warren. Wow. Jeez. I only came on here to give hot takes guys. I don't know if you realize this. I just, I only came on here to say the most outlandish opinion on each prospect.

No other reason. That's we kind of needed that balance. All right. Kind of needed that balance. H. Will Campbell hates Mason, hates Tyler Warren. Who is the other one that we met? Despises Scattaboo.

Thinks that Scattaboo. UFL. I mean, should play a different sport. Yeah, rugby, US rugby. Hey, look, I mean, I can't see any lies in anything you're saying here. Tyler Williams drove me though. That's a good pick. Charles Grant.

So, I mean, they're building the right way. This is, yeah, Jets. So, I mean, Connor, this is your wheelhouse right here. What's happening? Are we going to your back? Wow. A quarterback? I'm punting on quarterback in this draft. Is it my reading that right? Is this a quarterback is a top need, right? Oh, water. Take have beef with the BFF needs sheet. No, no, no.

I probably need to take quarterback off. He's not going to happen. Watch it take Dart at seven and I just I just retire. I just retire. Not by choice. I need live on stream. All right. So I do like Tesla. I was going to say, I think that he's a great fit for them.

Yeah. Tesla big slot. Big slot. Big slot. Garrett could play inside and outside. So you don't have a slot clogger right now. Scroll a little bit, because Bond, I don't know if Bond's getting picked in this draft. Yeah, it's probably Tesla. Let me pull up my rockers.

Deontay Thornton's here. Yeah, still. Yeah. Still there. Despite his best efforts, he is still here. Yeah. He did all he could do. He left it out on the field. It would be Tesla. There's nothing more he could have done. Are we going three wide outs in a row here? Why not? Sure. Yeah. This is kind of that time, right? It's wide out time. Panthers, Jalen Walker, Xavier Watts, Daring and Porter. Defense,

defense, defense. That's whatarius Porter. Fourth wide receiver. I mean, this is actually where Deontay Thornton Jr. could go off the board. Careful with that scroll, Trevor. It's true. I'm not convinced guys that they won't add another pass rusher in the first four rounds, although they have a pick coming up at 114 also, right? Let's see. I just really think they're going to like overload that. I think they could be a two in the first three rounds with the defensive line.

They just, I mean, they just had the worst defensive line. Them in Atlanta were like the worst we've, we've seen really like, and there's a lot of crowd left on the board. Barron's row could be ideal for them. A little Amin Hasnain. I mean, is Josh Farmer farmer gonna be here in real life You know the pins on him seem so mixed he was like in the yeah I'm thinking of the first is the early second guy and now you could take him here

But he's like what's he he's just purely a developmental player for you single digit passage win percentage So he doesn't really help what they were looking for last year Like what you just said his run defense grade was not good last year. It was extremely up and down in my opinion. Yeah. I think, I think like fourth round is the spot for Josh Farmer. Agreed. Now I feel the same way you do now we're in fourth. And so I think this is realistic. I just don't know if the league feels that way, but you go, you go people's if you wanted to, since they got some run stuffers, that guy's like poor man's collage.

A can't see man in this range of the draft. He is an artist as a pass rusher. Like his size and athleticism tells you he will not be an NFL player. His tape tells you he's awesome. Yeah, he does. All right. Megajews, right. And I feel right here at 111 for the Panthers. I got the dark brown sidekick.

There you go. Saints. This is our Saints draft right now. Chamar Stewart, Jackson, Dara Trey Harris, Anthony Belton. Belton's a good pick. If he's there at 93, I think he can legit play guard and tackle. I think he's more ready to start in some ways. Not that there will always be limitations, but I think he's actually could play. I don't think there's a lot of guys in the line class that can just play right away. Yeah. What else do they need? You know, I think they I know they got Stuart in there, but can they get somebody also they can get sacks?

That would be probably good, right? What about? Hey, man. See, he's probably gonna go high. I mean, I really think Schmarzer could go to them. I wonder if they would also be another double dip on the front type of team. Maybe like a Quinterious Robinson. Yeah.

Or maybe on the inside. Yeah, either way. I mean, depending on what your opinion is of Brzee, their defensive tackle room was so rough last year. I was going to say that it's probably the capitalize on the D tackles here. We go Jordan Phillips if we think they got just got to be more stout up front or they could be a farmer team. Oh yeah. Armor. I really like actually their idea.

That's a good idea. Okay. All right. We'll go Josh former here. He kind of hung around for a long time. So they brought God Joe in, but yeah. Yeah. He's kind of stinks. Yeah. 49ers. But I mean, at least they're aware of the problem.

Yeah. That's a good 49ers, Walter Nolan, Ariante, Ersiri, Landon Jackson, DJ Giddens. We had to get the running back pick in there, obviously, for the 49ers in the third or fourth round, because they do it every year, no matter what. It's very true. Ersiri, OK, yeah. Warner, maybe Nolan. Good, good fit for them.

Landon Jackson, this is a good. This is a very realistic 49ers draft. I think we thought scheme fits needs. Yeah. I mean, corner is probably the one that 49ers people will tell you is, is up there. This team kind of finds a way with corner every year. I feel like, but I think that that's going to be one of the top ones because Renardo Green played well last year, but outside of that, I don't know how good they feel about Trey Brown being the guy. So what do we have a corner?

Dory strong, who actually I think would be a Robert Solofit. Yeah, longer beams kind of a smaller inside guy, right? They kind of have one of the ideas. I do like him. Yeah, I oh, yeah, just Wally. As my boy right there, just Wally can That's my boy right there. Justin Wally can play, man. I just wish he was stronger.

He loses so much at the catch point and he will try and run defense and he will get knocked over a lot. I think he could potentially play every position in the secondary, which makes him really valuable in In my opinion, I think he probably would be inside guy. He can blitz. He will tackle. He will hit people. He's not the biggest. He's not the fastest. So I'm not saying he's going to make every play, but he's also has legitimate ball skills and he's an elite communicator, IQ guy, really tough. I think he's going to get drafted in day three and start for a while in the NFL. Like not a perfect player, but I think he's going to be that kind of skillset.

I'm okay with him here. I, I, like I said, I have, I have major strength concerns with him overall, but the movement skills, like you said, the communication, I think he's always where he needs to be. He's so fun. He understands playing the position so incredibly well. I think that now in the fourth round,

you could take him and feel good about it no matter what. Yeah. It's fair. Okay. Okay. Taking him, Conner, you could take him and feel good about it. No matter what. Yeah. It's fair. Okay. Okay. Taking him, Connor, you go with it. Yeah, I'm good. Okay.

Uh, let's see. Oh, Panthers back. Dion to Jordan Jr. Sure. In all seriousness. Yeah. I mean, it'd be, it'd be a great bit to leave them on the board for like the rest of the draft, but it's something I think we've got to take him here.

He missed a shot. All right. Torrey, Torrey Horton to the Carolina Panthers here at number, number one 14. Wait, who'd you pick? Who'd you click? No, toy Horton. Uh, all right. Arizona Cardinals, Kelvings, Prince of Miami, Ellen Demetrius night. Weren't they screaming at us for wide receiver with the Cardinals at 78? Well, yeah, you mentioned it a couple of times, then you had to walk back from it because they weren't happy at that time. But now it's pride time. It was a thing. It's yeah, they they definitely got out.

I wonder what they. I mean, yeah, it really depends because Michael Wilson showed some stuff. Dorches, oh, they have like these little flashy guys, like these guys that flash a little bit, but then don't do anything sustainable. But I think they can use another playmaker for sure there. And then I think the other spot is, you know, what, what is the planet corner? You know, I don't know how good they feel about SMB. I don't feel great about a Max Melton. There were some flashes last year.

Didn't play a ton. But when he did play was good. Like that's the other spot that I would be like, ah, maybe they could go there. But I don't think you can go wrong with either of those. Whoever's like good on the board for them. Connor, what do we think? I'll give you the call. Well, John's the guest. I mean, me and I are going to make like 200 more picks. So I would, I would actually, I would actually like some variants in the draft opinions here. So who's on the border corner, Quincy Riley, Dorian strong.

Okay. I think a lot, a lot of people in the chat are talking about that. Quincy Riley. They're basically throwing out like every corner name. So I feel as though Walt Zane, Denzel Burke. Burke. I just don't think a lot of the receivers here like Tez, Restrepo, Bond, I know they're big names to people.

I don't think they're actually going to get drafted this high. That's just my opinion on it. Maybe I'll end up being wrong, but I don't. So I'm kind of like, do I want to go there, it's a lot of problems with all those guys for different reasons Yeah, just some big red flag will I think keep it from happening? But yeah, I mean this does this make sense for Dorian strong you guys have probably watch more Yeah, I think so. I think he's more of an off-zone cover corner and it with us a lot of what what? What Gannon played.

So I'm cool with this. We'll go to the Orange strong here to the to the Cardinals there. 116 is the Miami Dolphins. We've got Will Johnson, Alfred Collins and Dylan Fairchild as the three players there. Okay, so somebody fast, right? They haven't taken anybody on offense yet or on skill position player yet. So we know they're not gonna help themselves at this point. So what about like Ty Felton or Isaiah Bond, Ty Felton? No, they have Malik Washington as well from last year. They kind of need a tight end as well, right? Like a real tight end. I would think if they're going to use one this year, that's the thing.

I think is Gunnar Helm still here. He is still here. Yeah. If I mean, could, would he be allowed to play a guy that's four nine slow? Like is McDaniel going to be like, is that against it? I don't even know what to make it his 40 yard dash or really don't like, Oh, he turned his ankle, but like, look, the other drills weren't great either. Or he did the other drills. I should say, well, but he did the other drills, I should say.

Well, but he did those after he like turned his ankle, they said. So you everything he did everything after. Yeah. Yeah. The 40, I believe, is the first thing that he did. OK. People are saying your boy, Bachel Tutin. This is the spot. He's very dolphin, but at some point such a dolphin's pick. But like they took Jalen, they traded They traded up for Jalen, right. Last year, we didn't do safety for them yet.

Yeah, I was wondering about that, too, is what I was. We considered that at 13 Sanker, dude, Bowman. I could go any of these guys. I like Craig Woodson. I know it's early for like we're not going to take what's in here, but I think he's a little bit rated. I like him very underrated. Yeah. Let's relate to grandson. Yeah, that makes I think he's a little underrated. I like him very underrated. Yeah. Let's relate to the ransom. Yeah, that makes sense.

You got your strong safety now. Yeah. They could go either way. It doesn't matter with them. That's how bad it is. Uh, let's see Colts. John, we'll only keep you on for a couple more picks. We don't want to keep you forever. We've really enjoyed it. All right. Sounds good. I'll buzz off. Yeah, that's fine. See you guys. Uh, Colts at 117. That wasn't, that wasn't to kick you out. They went with, they went with Jihad Campbell in the first round, Mason Taylor in the second, Wyatt Milam in the third. Milam's such a Colt. So I was going to say it was like on a ladder for us when we saw it. So ballerina. Yeah. It just makes sense.

So ballerty. Yeah, it just makes sense. Oh, just to, you know, round it out. I mean, it might be, it might be. He's really not the type that they've taken, but I wonder if at some point balance just like, all right, I'm sick of, you know, the, the long, you know, athletes, yeah, the bang gals and the, or however he said his last name. And, uh, who else is he taking and kimoko teres and those kind of guys like i'm just sick of it it's not working you know but he took lotto

last year he was a thicker boy and so maybe he'll maybe he'd go jack soyer here all right any leanings for specific players do you actually think jack soyer i mean you know my opinion of jack soyer is that this is too high for him. But he'll go. But eventually he's probably gonna get drafted if I'm being realistic. I think this is a good spot for him. Funny how he's still on the board here when I was told he would be a fringe first round pick. Couple of months ago.

Wait until the real draft. You think he's gonna lead? You think he's in the top 50? Log? No, I don't think so. All right, Jack Sawyer, 117 to the Indianapolis Colts. Sweet Falcons Falcons need girth, right girth and pass rush. They got Mike Green.

They got Ben Morrison, your boy, Ben Morrison. Great draft. Great. Great. Is there anyone viable at center? Probably not. Seth McLaughlin, Jake Majors. I think Majors.

I know there's nothing physically, overwhelmingly impressive about him, but he is extremely smart and technically sound that he's just going to play for a while and be fine. All he loves them. All he was just like, it's I don't understand why nobody. I know it's a bad center class, but he's the guy where I'm like, I think I'll actually start somewhere eventually. You think they take him here as an upgrade to center?

What are we at? One 18, 18. I don't think again until the seventh round, I would take Jake Major. See, I legitimately think he has starter potential. Now, is he good fit for what they run to? I mean, is he like a he's a doll? Good enough. It's good enough. Yeah. OK. Like he's viable. I haven't really watched him at last. So yeah, I knew he played a little bit.

He's boring in the best way possible. In my opinion. Hey, I love boring at center is at center is what you want. I mean, he was calling everything for Quinn. Yeah, he was. I mean, there's like three or four guys at center and then there's everybody else other than Coleman Shelton, basically in the league. Like it's like all they're all together.

So I would totally agree with that. Yeah, I would take one bird out here dominating for the Broncos or whatever. Like, so you're right. It's insane. Yeah. Oh, so many in the chat. So we already picked Jack Sawyer, but somebody in the chat was like, wait, Ballard is very heavy RAS and Jack Sawyer is not an RAS guy. So well, that's where it didn't test, right? He could be a great athlete. That's true. You could believe it. You could believe it. All right. We're going to Jake majors for the Falcons there. Bengals. We have Kenneth Grant, Jonah, Selvam and Aya and then Jonah or Josiah Stewart. Too good of a draft to be a Bengals. Just kidding. They, yeah, Stewart and Grant. I mean, that's a, that's a nice pairing. They definitely need the help up front.

What about they need some pieces in the secondary to their secondary is kind of all over the place. I feel like yeah. Well, safety is better problem, right? Safety definitely a problem. But like they have Jordan battle and I think they're okay with him. It's strong. It's really just like Gino Stone. Yeah, their safeties can't move. That's an issue. I would definitely look at safety here. Bowman, I know he's small, but

he could do that. He can handle things that like they don't have right now. He's a wild card. Like he is literally the shortest arm defensive back ever. Yeah. Nothing about him says like he should make it, But you know, I mean, he makes plays on tape. You know, I love Billy Bowman, but they do have like Dax Hill, which I know either player that Billy Bowman would be for them. Yeah, I don't think it's I don't think they would pick Bowman. What about? I'm going to wisely use this time to take my first break.

There it is. Three and a half hours in. Do it. Cause John, I got that much trust in John. No, it's, you know, it's just, we won't lose a step. It's true. We won't. We won't.

True. I'll jump off whenever you're ready to come back on Connor. You can stay all day. I know you'd love that. Yeah. Connor's actually out. See you guys. See you.

I would love that. My children, my children are like, come do this with us. Come take us bike riding. So I'm going to get it at some point, but let's have you take it offensively at all. Okay. So you have with Jonah. Yeah. Um, but I mean, they can, they could still go. Yeah. I mean, do we think they're going to trade Trey Anderson? That's a big like subplot of this, because if they do, they could go another pass rusher. I mean, they just have so few like real answers on the roster. And there's good pastors on the board. Like Barron Sorrell, I think is great.

Do they, do they lean into David Walker? I don't know how to give a David Walker fan you are, but like, obviously he was extremely productive. Yeah. Do you like him? They've sorta, I walkers. Okay. I think to me, like I would consider him in this round.

Is he a fit for them? It's funny that Henderson's been so good to them. They really haven't gone with like, O'Si, Miles Murphy, these longer, more explosive guy type of guys. Maybe they would be interested in saving Jones. What playing way is he going to be at? They're sort of a tricky team to figure out what they're going to draft given what's off the board at this point.

I don't like their linebackers at all. Like I think that could be a big issue for them. They're also paying them a lot. So, I mean, I think those guys were one of the weakest points in their team last year. So Jack Kaiser here easily. I think they would actually like Jack Kaiser a lot. That could be a good pick. Let's go Jack Kaiser.

At some point they're going to have to financially move on from one of these guys. It didn't Pratt asked for a trade. So did he officially? I think he did. They signed a Ryan Burks, but they don't have King Davis Gaither anymore. I think that they're going to like Jack Kaiser anyways. He brings you good athleticism, obviously super experienced with as many games as he has played.

Titans at 120. We gave them Cam Ward, Luther Burden, Femi Oladejo. Yeah. Feels like they're going to still do some trench building, right? Yeah. So, yeah, where is, let me pull up their depth chart for the trenches. Chad, what do you think is going to happen here with the Tennessee Titans given the fact that these were their picks? They spent the money on Zeitler, which man, that's such a funny move. And Dan Moore's

in there now moving JC Laham to right tackle. So honestly, they're starting lineup. I don't know how good it'll be, but they probably feel like it's pretty set. Yeah, I think they feel like it's pretty good. So maybe they're looking more wide receiver. This is a really weak room. Draelyn Burks will be hurt. Van Jefferson's not very good.

And so they have Luther Burden who we drafted, but like, honestly, like Xavier Shrepo is here in all seriousness, like cam ward, Xavier Shrepo was a great one, two combination in college. I really, I really do feel like they could pick a Shrepo and he because you're right. Like the depth of this receiver room is not good at all. And even if he is just like wide receiver for for you, it's an ideal wide receiver for, for a guy that he's had a lot of chemistry with. Right. Okay. I'm down with that. Yeah. I'm going to take her Sharpo here for them. This is the box. Well, well, your

Tampa Bay Buccaneers. This is what we got so far. Donovan's rock who Carson's question your Jacob Parrish. That's a pretty accurate draft, I would say, given what they... Swessinger's really interesting. I can't wait to finish my scout on him this week. I finished linebackers this week, and then I'll be done with the class. And I'm really excited. I've seen some flashes and stuff, but I'm excited to get the full eval there. He's really interesting.

Certainly seems like he has a lot of traits that they would want as a Raku in the first round, yeah, cement some things. So it's been all defense, right? It has been all defense. Yeah. And parish is probably inside outside potential. Yeah. Having said that I would still look at secondary and it seems like wide out is the other thing they've looked at. And I would peek at tight end, even though I'm not. I don't think they draft any of these tight ends. I mean, maybe you're a sec if they like your sec. I mean, they should be the Uri sec team that they would be the type of team. I mean, the Georgia connections obviously with bulls. And then I feel like the, uh, the fact that he blocks is a big part of that for them.

Um, they would want somebody who could also block. He seems like the type of player they would take. So I'm pretty interested in that one. If they move Tyke back to safety, I mean, boom. And I just don't think they'll go for play like that. They already have a really play a player, someone in Izzy. And I wonder if they'd be looking for some sort of net like longer beams, tiny, like somebody that would play inside is sort of my thought. Yeah. If you think that parish can play outside for you, unless you think

parish would play inside, right. Or who's the outside corners, you know, Is there any good outside corners left on the board? Not really. Maybe Quincy Riley. If you think he's an outside guy, not really the Bucks prototype, I'd say. No, he's not. O'Donnell Fortune kind of is. I haven't watched him yet. Scott Frazier is basically just drafting Zayaaya McCall again, hoping it works out. Yeah. I would say some of the tight ends here make a lot of sense, just given what's on the board. I would be interested in, in Uri Seck and I also think Fedoni, Thomas Fedoni Jr.

Oh, okay. I mean, isn't he like a more athletic, I mean, isn't he like a more athletic, but maybe more athletic, um, um, co-keefed in a lot of ways, like just the crazy junkyard dog mentality that they both have. And I, and I really do cause Jason's got the Nebraska connection. So he's a grinder and I think there's actually more there as a receiver. So I actually have Fedoni on my board over Gunner helm on my personal rankings. So we can go Fedoni here. I don't know. Fedoni or Eurosec, I think both those guys make sense. I think they would be a sneaky tight end team on their day. We'll go Fedoni and we'll make Brett Coleman happy

because he loves Fedoni I think. I think he lovesidoni. At least he was talking about him a ton in our group chat that we have. So the Broncos, 122, Omarion Hampton, Jack best year at Ivy. Yeah. Let me think about their defensive line. They're always looking to add pieces of this range. I feel like they're one of these teams that are going to keep cycling them. I think. I also think that both Savian Jones and Elijah Roberts are perfect for this team. Yeah. Savion Jones is a really interesting, you know, kind of get them in the same mold.

John Franklin Meyers type maybe. Right. Right. And that's sort of like what I mean, they need multiple bodies because a lot of those guys are out of there. I think Jordan Phillips also works for them too. Savion is a good pick here. All right. Let's take Savion. We'll go Savion. Oh, that brings up my Pittsburgh Steelers. This might be a good pick here. All right. Let's take Savion. We'll go Savion. Oh, that brings up my Pittsburgh Steelers. This might be a good pick for me. All right.

Derek Harmon and Damien Martinez. I don't know if that's good or not. I don't know. The laugh is diabolical. It's fine. It's just like the team has no quarterbacks, so it's just hilarious. I mean, they're probably going to take quarterback here. He's on the board.

We haven't made a quarterback pick yet. No quarter. Sorry. Oh, quarter. You're doing what they should. They should take a corner back at some point, but they don't believe in doing that. Dealer's choice, baby. They'd rather get the oldest corner in the league and slap them out there to start.

I mean, if Will Howard's on the board, I think they're going to take him. I would think they'd take him in the third, to be honest, if he's on the board and they haven't taken a quarterback. That's a good point. I think they take him. I would think they'd take him in the third, to be honest, if he's on the board and they haven't taken a quarterback. That's a good point. I think they like him. I think they think the mental part of it and they think he's a good enough athlete, good enough arm, all those sorts of things. Taking a quarterback in the fourth round, I personally kind of like Howard for the rest of the class. I think he's not, like it wouldn't shock me at all if he's better than Shider Sanders or better than Jackson Dart. I wouldn't be surprised by that. I don't have him

over those guys, but I have him tiered with those guys. Um, so I actually think like bang for your buck. He could make the most sense out of those other guys. If those guys are going real early, I think. Okay. So you think, uh, I think it's going to be well-owered. Yeah. If he's on the board here and this is actually how it falls for whatever reason, they don't go quarterback until now. I think they would have taken them at in the eighties, to be honest at where they took Martinez. What do you think of just these other quarterbacks, like in general, like independent of the Steelers?

Yeah, I mean, it sounds like Tyler Shook is trying to get that, is he's gotten that buzz all throughout this whole process. I mean, to me, just a debilitating trip. When you're just scared, it's hard to be good in the league. You're just gonna be in intense situations with pressure. And I think that though it's hard to survive all those situations. That would be my biggest thing with him.

Like how often he falls off his back foot, how often he falls away from pressure. Um, I don't know if you saw us, but unless this was AI, I don't think it was. He had to throw it the combine where he fell off. It was not AI. It was not AI. I'm come on. It was AI. I don't think it was. He had a throw at the combine where he fell. It was not AI. It was not AI. So Brett Coleman tweeted that out. And I think it was EJ Snyder who was like taking the video of it. And he's like, here's, here's EJ's video of it. And the throw happens and somebody, somebody, the first comment to it. Cause I was like, who is this? Cause you can't really tell. I can't really see the name. I was like, I

don't know who this is. And, um, and I thought it was Tyler Schuck, but then somebody was like, Hey, who is this? And then, uh, Brett Coleman was like, that's Tom Savage. And I was like, Oh, okay. Like it's not, okay. It's Tom Savage. And then like people kept tweeting it out. And I was like, wait a second. This isn't Tom Savage. This is actually Tyler Schuck. It's Davis Webb right there. Yeah, essentially. Yeah. Yeah, yeah. Yeah. I just think the hype is so over. Like for being an older player, but having less experience than basically every other quarterback in the draft, less drop backs. I agree. You can do some things in a pro style way. I think he'll have a career. I don't think he's like on draft or anything, but the idea that he would come in and be a franchise quarterback for somebody or that that's even in the cards.

I just don't think that's in the cards. Maybe I'll end up being wrong. I just think the way he plays the position is way too skittish to survive in the NFL. Like just too limited in my opinion. All right, John, before we get you out of here, our next guest is joining right here and I'm gonna bring him in. You absolutely know him, you love him.

He was the PFF draft guru for forever, still is truly in our hearts. Let's go. Now he's doing his thing for CBS. It's one and only Mike Renner, baby. Look at him wearing the PFF shirt too. Look at that. There it is.

The company man. Still good to this day. Renner, welcome to the stream. Appreciate you joining, man. So we are, I'm dropping you in on this. We are in the fourth round. John's Steelers are on the clock and he was like, hey, they gotta take a quarterback.

So it's one of these guys that are left. And so I wanted John to stick around just cause I asked him about these quarterbacks that are left here on the board, which you can see, what do you think of these guys? Like, I know what he's going to say. I know what he's going to say. I love these guys that you absolutely love. Let's hear it.

You know, I love Dylan Gabriel, dude. He could play in the league. He's like a Brock Purdy. You can play. You might have to good, but like he could play. He was also hilarious. We interviewed him at the combine. The guy is, have you seen the interview of him where like, I swore he was high?

There was a, did you ever see that one going around where something like tweeted out where it was like, how, how blazed is he in this interview? That's, he's just like that 24 seven. He acts like he, he's just like that 24 seven. He acts like he, he's so like calm and collected. He drove a mini van at Oregon and he would pick like all the wide receivers up on the way to practice guys. He'd be thrown to George Pickens and DK Metcalf. Yeah, dude.

He and Rogers in the same locker room would be electric concept. That's great stuff. That's great stuff. All right. I'm going to hop out of here, fellas. I appreciate y'all. Thanks so much, John. Thank you, John. Appreciate it. Connor. We went one in, one out. Incredible renter. What's up, dude? Got her. How we doing? We're holding strong right now. Yeah. You guys are deep in this. Almost four hours in good Lord. I did look, we did a seven around ourselves on Thursday. I did three rounds and I was like,

okay, you someone else take this over. This is dude. Did you do the first three? No, I had to through four. So, OK, we had ran car. I thought I'd do it in the first for me. So I was like, take it over for a former GM. It was a little, little big time. Me that's getting out of round five. Those like that's nice.

Yeah, honestly, I am not as deep this year as I have been in years past. So round six and seven might be some blanks for me. Yeah, well. There's just so many special teamers. Well, you joined at a good spot. One, we got your quarterback thoughts, so we got your Dylan Gabriel love

out of the way right there, but your Packers are actually on the board where we're picking up here at 124. This is the draft so far for them. Yeah. Is it okay? What are we thinking here next? It's not bad. It feels like kind of like we hit a few singles and doubles. You know, I think that's an impact draft. All those guys, like none of them are going to be a bust altogether together. I don't think but I'm not sure anyone Like you're not hitting uh, you know, like their home runs like a gyro alexander You're not getting like that level from any of those guys in my opinion

But I think they don't need a rock. They don't have a roster like necessarily needs Massive massive impact. They just need to plug some holes All right. What are we thinking here? What position? dude, they were hawking, uhuta Koontz was hawking Jordan Phillips down at the Shrine Bowl. And they like Young, they like explosive DTs. They like DTs built like him. So it wouldn't surprise me if, you know,

fourth round was just 124 comes around if he ends up being a Packer in real life. All right, works for me. That's good to know. It's the intel that we want here. All right, Jordan Phillips going to the, to the Green Bay Packers here at 124, Los Angeles Chargers on the board at 125.

We gave them Colson Lovell, we got Braden Swinson, we got Jalen Royals. Dude, this was, I had the Chargers in our mock draft and we had Loveland and Swinson rounds one and two also. I loved those bits. Look at's wow. Look at that synergy. We have to feel easy. Like when those picks came up, we were pretty quick on both of those. Yes. The Swinson one, I was like, a hundred percent. This is yes. They need that dude. All right. So like now,

like now what? Right. I loved also in round four, I think I went to Shultutin. I'm not sure if he's on the board here, but I just a speed back to compliment Najee. I think this class has like some crazy, this class has insane amount of speed backs and insane amount of speed wide receivers that aren't like ass, right? You know, a lot of times your speed backs end up being,

who's that one Georgia guy who ran like a four, three, one and had like a 30 inch vertical and it just ended up being like not good. But I think this class has a chance like Jane Blue, Shultz Tooten who could actually be legitimate pieces that make going like the fourth. Connor, you go with it? Absolutely. I love to. Yeah. Yeah. You're, you're a, you're a big fan of Bay Shultz Tooten who we have said before on this podcast, elite running back name, right? When he gets an open space and he gets up the sideline, just a commentator being able to yell out Bay Shawl Tooten is- What do we think Boomer goes for his nickname when he goes like the middle, Rootin Tooten or like-

Scootin, Scootin. Scootin's the easy one. Scootin, Tooten, Rootin. Yeah, yeah. I feel like there we go. The fastest two minutes in sports. We're absolutely getting to Bayshall, tootin, scootin from, from Poovron that one. Jacksonville at 126, Mason Graham, Matthew Golden, Andrew McCuba, RJ Harvey, Kyle Kinnard. Ooh, what a draft so far. Right, everybody loves this draft. It's stacking up.

Yeah. Stacking up. That's hitting a lot of needs too. Golden to 36, Ashley dude, you guys see him, you guys must see him similar to me. Cause I'm just like, he feels like in most drafts, like last year he just goes second round. Like he just feels like most drafts

is second round type wide receiver. We agree. Yeah. So that's where I would take a 36. There you go. How we got from Golden like being a riser to Golden is the first wide receiver drafted in this year's draft. I don't know how we ever got there, but we did.

Now, I remember seeing DJ tweeted out like February. He's like, Matthew Gold might be the best chief in this draft. And I was like, is this the same Matthew Golden? I watched it like Houston like that. But like what he now he's obviously better than he was in Houston, I think. But yeah, it is. It is a major rise from him. What we saw this past season. So I, again, I like Matthew Golden.

I very clearly have Ted McMillan, Luther Burden and Emeka Bugat of it, very far in my opinion. All right, for the Jags, what do you guys think in here? I mean, they've hit like their biggest needs. They really have. Yeah. I think you're kind of just throwing more people. I would take a blocking tight end. You want a little Mitchell Evans?

Him, it's a little early for Hawes, but I like Hawes. Oh, Gunnar Helm. Oh Gunnar's still there. Oh, you want Gunnar under there? Yeah. Yeah. Could go Gunnar Helm. All right, I like that pick.

Works for me. Yeah, some kind of inline presence for Brenton Strange, a compliment Brenton Strange. Works for me. Rams who did not have aline presence for Brenton Strange, a compliment Brenton Strange. Works for me. Rams who did not have a second round pick. We got Jaday Barron, we got Chris Poo Paul, and we got Harold Fanning Jr. I love Harold Fanning Jr. Especially for the Rams.

I feel like you can just play slot for them. That's the thing. It works here where it doesn't work a lot of places. Yeah. Oh gosh. Let me save the... I'm trying to think what they need after this. What's their wide receiver situation?

I know they like like their wide receivers. They brought back to. To do one. I forgot they got to Vonte. Yeah, but I mean, that's a two year situation. Two twos on a one year. Like, oh, what about a little Jalen Lane? How do you guys feel about him?

Well, speed, why don't like your life after you to kind of guy or Felton. Yeah, for some kind of vertical player, I think Lane would be my guy out of that group, but. Yeah, I don't think they're taking Isaiah Bond. Let's get real. He's going to the bank. He's going to the Bengals in the six. Yeah, 100% chance.

Would they draft a Tess Johnson? Nah, probably not. They got it. We're getting in realistic Tess Johnson range here though. Yeah. Could go off the board. Yeah, I think Lane I'm cool with. All right, all right.

We'll go Jalen Lane here. Washington, let's see. What we got for Washington here. James Harris Jr. coin challenge, not bad. It's a solid draft. That's a solid draft. Where do they need? Maybe guard.

Like don't let offense attack. I bet they move Coleman in a guard though, right? Yes, could. How do we fit? Do you like Emory Jones? Cause I'm not the biggest Emory Jones fan, but I think that this is where we start to talk about him. Like fifth, sixth, or fourth, fifth.

I have him like 130s, I think on my 150s. So this is about. Yeah. Where I was, you know who I do like? I like Logan Brown a lot. Do you? He's in my top 100. Yeah. I'm cool with that.

I like versatile. He he's got potential, man. He really does. Stanley athletic. You are well for an offensive tackle. Yes, that's the well. And he's only played one year, which is like wild to me. I was like between Kansas and Wisconsin.

The guy could only see the field for one year, but not. It wasn't bad. I think he was a really big recruit five years ago. So it's like, it's weird at Wisconsin, just never got on the field. Allen is saying Coleman is said to be the right tackle for them, because you draft Laramie, you trade for Laramie Tunsil,

and then Latham's out there with, I think Andrew Wiley is still there. Yeah, Wiley. But yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Could put Wiley on the bench if Coleman is an upgrade but But I like I like Logan Brown to potentially play guard for you And he I think he's both I do all the all the best guards this class are tackles right now. It's yes Yeah, let's go. Let's go Logan Brown here. I'm cool with Renner. You think will Campbell can stick it tackle? No, I don't either

I mean like can sure that's a bad way to word the question. So much better guard than he would be more center than he would be attacking. Yep. I don't again, I want to be clear. I think that he could be an excellent guard. I am just very much. I would let him fail a tackle. That's fair.

I put a 100% and that's how I feel about it. Ravens went Malachi, Starks, TJ Sanders, Jordan Birch. Okay. Do you line and safety? What else? They need O line at this point. We kind of just robbed them of one. Could use an O line. Definitely their guards are kind of. Could use a corner too. Quincy Riley feels like it feels like a Baltimore.

I like Quincy Riley. I think he's an, I think he'd be excellent pick for them. Yeah, I think he's my top guy. One person said guard, one person said corner. So there we go. Let's see what other guards would we have? He's your tackle convert, guys who could play inside. I mean, Willie Lampkin, I don't think they'd take that in, though.

They'd be a center. I mean, not a bad place to go behind. Uh, but yeah, playing guard. Lucandra. It's not terrible. He's kind of just, I think I like Quince Riley over most of them that we've. I agree. I think of all those guys, he's the highest on my board right now. Um, all right, we'll go, we'll go Quincey Riley here. I agree. I think of all those guys, he's the highest on my board right now. All right, we'll go. We'll go Quincy Riley here. Do it. Uh, we got a super Chad, this elite content. Do you guys think Jalen Reed at a Penn state goes day two? I've been seeing some more hype about him, but I don't fully buy in.

I think there's a chance that you could go around three. I don't know how you guys feel about him, but I think he's more comfortably like early day three type of a dude. I think he's super athletic. I think some of his best plays are awesome. I think he plays way too out of control right now. That's what I get worried about with him. Yeah, I wouldn't have him on day two. Yeah, I would draft him on day three. That's the thing. I just don't think the safety class after like the top three or four, you maybe not. You maybe don't see it. So you got, I think once Macuba, so I guess that's five. So top three

You know, you maybe don't see it. So you got I think once mccuba so I guess that's five so top three watts mccuba and then that might be it for day one two, right is there anyone else top three being Yeah Bowman will be too small to go and on the second day, which is a shame but Mango with this $5 super chat. I'm just getting caught up on some of these. Elijah Roberts will be a chief. He's such a spags guy. I actually agree. I think that, I think that he could definitely be a spags guy, which are we close to chiefs coming up on the board? Ah, Elijah Roberts could have been.

Save him, save him. Yeah, we got it. Yeah, we got it. We got to rig the mock. We got to rig the mock here at this point. The chat says no Craig Woodson love. We gave Craig Woodson a lot of love. It was about two hours ago. Yeah. No, I think that Craig Woodson is. We gave Craig Woodson a lot of love. It was about two hours ago.

Yeah, no, I think that Craig Woodson is is become off the board already. No, but we brought him up. We've talked about him. He's like that underrated guy in a safety depth. The Lions pick Michael Williams, Tate Routledge and Andrew Armstrong so far. OK. 60 clients. All right. So they I mean, they don't have any needs, right? This is, it's just, this is a fun, purely for fun. I mean, Ty Robinson, he's such a, he's such a lions type.

I remember how injured they got on D line last year. Yeah. I can play up by reliance. Because he works his ass off. Not because he's from Nebraska and he's white. Okay. Maybe it's his ass off. And he's just, he's absolute beef. Bad is the Lions type too.

I think Bowman might be. Yeah. Ooh, Bowman. I was just naming other white guys, sorry. No, Bowman's actually white. It's Kind of. What's his, what's their secondary situation right now on the city?

They would draft. They would for sure draft Bowman, even if it's just play special teams. It'd be like their hockey pick last year. Yeah. They have a meek, but dude, I kind of like Bowman. Yeah. What do you think Connor? Am I overthinking it?

Can we go? No, but Bowman at one 30, like the dude can play. Yeah, man. He's just going to be a size outlier, which is why he's here. Hi. Yeah, I think he's a hell of a football player. And he's got he plays with the energy that that staff gravitates to. 100%. I know it's a turnover on the staff, but still it's Dan Campbell's show. OK, let's do Billy Bowman.

I don't consider it Alfred Collins. Yeah, well, I have considered Alfred Collins so much so that we drafted him two hours ago. That is, yes, I have considered Alfred Collins? Yeah, well, I have considered Alfred Collins so much so that we drafted him two hours ago. That is, uh, yes, I have considered Alfred Collins there. Look at this new Orleans saints draft. Uh, Mike, Shemar Stewart, Tray Harris, Anthony Belton, Josh Farmer. Oh, dude, I love Anthony Belton. And I think he's going to be a great guy.

Yeah. Um, that's a, yeah, that's a, I mean, say what you want about Shemar Stewart, but that draft could be like the 16 draft or we wouldn't know the 17 draft where it was just like. The potential of those guys, even if they don't hit on dark, they're going to be a great draft. Yeah. Oh, what are they even? How do we feel about how do we feel about Bassa here?

Yeah, they could use a linebacker. What's face is not going to play forever, even though he's been close. Demariel Davis. Demariel. Grant, I think, what's Pete Werner's contract? I feel like it's up. Am I in misremembering that correctly?

Let's see. No, okay, I guess not. He might've just signed. Yeah. I think they did. Yeah, they extended him. Okay, they got him in there. I mean, you could still draft Bossa, but any thoughts?

Yeah, I mean, that's the time. What linebackers are available? We took Kaiser off the board, so it's probably, it's Bossa at the top, Barrett Carter, Cody Simon, Kobe King. If they want a depth linebacker that's gonna play specials at a high level, I'd go a Bear Carter. I mean, Stutzman and Smile Mondan are also like in range here for sure.

Kobe King is pretty physical. It just depends what kind of linebacker you want here behind your current starters. Any thoughts on these guys, Mike? Stutzman is actually my top 100 towards the back end. Let's see, I got Kobe King, bear Carter and boss. So if we have, we haven't taken corner for them yet, somebody's yelling at us in the chat and I do agree.

Yeah. Denzel Burke. I can say Frazier is top of that group that I'm seeing, but I'm not like super high in any of these, but I mean, I guess you're just taking the risk. Frazier's top of that group that I'm seeing. But you OK, I'm not like super high in any of these. But I mean, I guess you're just taking the risk to play tool. Frazier has the tools. I think we've done a lot in this regime. I think longer beams a slot.

I think Elijah Hussey's a slot. I actually don't. I I would be fine with with Zio Alexander here. He can play press for you really high force to complete your percentage. Yeah, he's not a great athlete, but there's a reason why you're getting him in the back end of the fourth round. Yeah, he makes up for the lack of long speed with how physical he could be in cut through routes. That's what I that's what I think. Mike, what do you think? I take Frazier because that's the corner they bet on the tools. But

Brian's daily is going to screw it up probably. So whoever its, he's going to screw it up probably. So whoever it is, he's going to ruin their career. So Alexander it is. He's got the worst, you know, low rolled into him. He rolled into Miami's pro day. I was down the street or Miami's pro day and just like angry, just like the angriest. I'm like, what is like this guy, dude?

I don't know. You just got bad energy. Nice. I don't know. I can't be, you can't be in a bad mood at pro day season. That's when last season. Dude, serious. If you're on the road, you're in Miami, brother.

Come on. We have the, we have the Chiefs and the Eagles. We have those picks. Those are, I, I, Oh, we have the Eagles pick? I'll tip the Eagles. The Eagles is picked. I'll just let you know when it happens. Okay, all right.

I think you guys can maybe deduce it. If you see the name, but. But Buffalo, Buffalo Bills, we got Maxwell Harrison, Nicky Manwari, Darius Alexander, Savion Williams. Oh man, I like that draft of the bills. I like that draft a lot for the bills. I feel like that's like a dream scenario for where their needs lie.

I'd love- Depth linebacker for them is on the board. But what do you say? Stuts would be- Yeah, they've doubled up though. They went, oh, a Fociio last year. Oh, they did. And Dorian Williams.

They have like a 2D Beretti. That's fair. I don't know if they would go. You know, they sneaky kind of need some depth on O-line. If you go past their first string, cause they didn't get hurt at all last year. They were healthy like wire to wire. But if they had any injuries right now,

they don't have like a second string at all. That's actually a good call out. Really good call. They have Cedric van Praan. So at least they have like a backup center. But. They have Tackle, Chase Lunt is so at least they have like a backup center. But. They have Tackle. Chase Lunt is actually the type of player that they would go with in that.

I feel like they could be an Emory Jones team too. Like a heavier handed kind of guy. I like Emory Jones here. I think this is a great value for him at this point. Yeah. And you get Emory Jones. Well, I mean, I got to get a two-finger. Right. But Fitz.

The elite O-line coach. Not a bad pairing. I might like Jalen Travis more, though, just because of the upside. He's the size of a tractor trailer with like, what, a 35-inch vertical? It's one of the craziest things I've ever seen. I mean, that's the greatest thing I've ever seen. That's I mean, he's a great athlete. You have the two guys in front of him. You got a good old line coach. I'd rather draft Jalen Travis and develop him.

I think I think both his brothers are college basketball players. I know it's a big which I kind of explains his insane. Yeah, there's something I think he played basketball. He's a different kind of dude. I worry about he struggles to bend though. He's so tall. He does, he does. And that's just. He's probably not gonna get better.

Yeah. All right, what do we think? Well, I'm down for whatever O'Lyman, shout him out, whatever we're doing. Emory, right? I like Emory. Fine with me. Like that Spencer Brown backup. Kansas City Chiefs, it has already been predescend written in the stars.

Elijah Roberts, the fact that he is here would be an excellent selection for them. Josh Simmons, Omar Norman, Elkayo Maider, Jaden Blue, and Elijah Roberts would be a sick Chiefs draft. The Eagles so far, Sabon Revel, Kevin Winston Jr., Jalen Rivers. What's the pick? Perfect. Keeps going. When you see it, you'll know. Keep scrolling. You see it. Do you? David Walker.

Yeah, your boy. You know, the brand of Graham Clone, man. That's the good stuff right there. And you're right. That's the good stuff. Chat. We've got to love this. Come on. Come on, come on. All right, you're a big fan of David Walker too.

Let's, I mean, like talk to me about him. Why do you love him? Let's hear it. He's, no, like he, his bull rush is unstoppable. Every time at the one-on-ones, the senior bully won. Every time on tape at the FCS. The only weird thing is 25 yeah weird like that's like my biggest worry but like that body type

online hate blocking that like that's impossible you just have no there's no answer for a guy who's always out leveraging you who's that explosive and strong so carl lawson yep He was he was a fourth rounder. That's like, those guys are tough. Yeah, they just get under your pads and they have so much power from their hips. You don't know. What can you do? Walkers and ox man. He's super strong. Tom with this $20 super chats is appreciate all the content gentlemen besides going live after the draft on Thursday, what content plans we have for next week. So we'll go live after day one for another live stream late at

night, which we have done the last two years, this will be the third year we're doing it. We won't have anything for day one and day two, maybe some, you know, social media stuff on IG reels and tick tock and at arena. But other than that, we're going to do the full grade show. And we will do that sometime on Sunday or Monday. So we'll get that to you guys then, but that'll, that'll be our recap show. So all right, Miami at 135. Connor, do you run into the same?

You can't do a live stream for NBC, right? That's right. Yeah. You guys have the same problem with CBS. Same thing. Yeah. So I'm actually, I'm going to be on Bleacher Report night one. I'm doing day three. Oh, nice. Oh, you are probably.

Look at that. I haven't said I haven't announced that anywhere yet, but that's funny. That will be kind of shit. We're kind of ships passing in the night with that. Yeah, that's great. Reuniting reuniting. Who's going to be on the PFF desk? Is it going to be the college football guys? Yeah, yeah, yeah. It's Dalton Maxx and the boss man, of course, Chris Collinsworth on night one. And then night two and three is just me, Dalton, and Max on night two. And then Gordon and Mason are joining for day three

just because it's- So they're not bringing in a host for you. They're making you kind of like pull off the double duty of host analyst. 100%. We're built for it. We're built for it. I'm King Henry. We're King Henry out here. We're built for it. We're built for it. I'm King Henry. We're King Henry out here.

We're built different. Give him 35 touches. Yeah. Get the ice bath ready. We'll be limping at age 36, but it's fine. You've got the ash and genti load this past fall. Essentially, essentially. All right.

The Miami Dolphins, Will Johnson, Alfred Collins, Dylan Fairchild, Leith and Ransom. Pretty good hall. Don't mind it. Don't mind it here. There are the columns again. Alfred Collins is off the board here. Just to let people know.

Two of them. Are you kidding me? They got a great, that's like every need. Now like they need like to double up at a few of those positions though too is the problem. They probably need another corner, right? Let's see. I think you're right.

I'm still left here. Cater Cater Coe, who's in the last year of his deal, I believe, is their slot guy, obviously, if they trade Jaylen Ramsey, it doesn't look like the future. Is Wally still there? No, we took Wally. We took Wally. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. He's off. When goes off, Frazier for them. Just bet on the athleticism, yeah, yeah, yeah, he's off. We can go Zah Frazier for him.

Just bet on the athleticism. Just bet on the tools, right? Sure. Cool, I don't hate that idea. So it's Zay. It's Zay? Zay Frazier. All right, Zay Frazier.

All right, Zay Frazier. So we'll go with Zay Frazier there for the- I know that because, gosh, was a usable your boy, Connor. He is he's got like a Frasier in his top 50. He loves that guy. Oh, he's he's betting on the legit will take chances on projection players. Yeah. If there's anything I've learned working with him over the years, he has his own takes.

That's for sure. He will. Yeah. Him. Him and Sims are the two people I've worked with that just like go in a cave, watch players come out with their rankings. And if it's not near consensus, everybody freaks out. It's great. I will come in the office CBS office and he'll be in a full suit grinding tape on like Tuesdays.

I'm like, damn dude, there's like, not former players don't watch tape. So I'm just gonna keep it real. They don't have, they kind of show up and just like get it done. And he's like grinding small, you know, UTSA tape. And it's like now a lot of guys wanna do that. Yep. Yeah. Him and Sims are the two I've worked with that just,

they're about that life. I love it. Love to hear it. Renner, we'll get you out of here on these three picks. We'll wrap the fourth round with you here. Um, so Ravens again, Malachi, Starks, TJ Sanders, Jordan Birch, Quincy Riley. So we've really hit, I think all the needs here for the Ravens, just heavy defense. Is there a wide receiver that they would like? Pat, dude, just if they went Tez, it just had like the skinniest receiving core in the NFL.

But like, no one's ever going to guard them. They really would. I think you draft Pat Bryant and you've got Deandre Hopkins there on the team. So you can learn from Deandre Hopkins. And then I think Hopkins is only a one year deal. So you've got an X moving forward. What do we feel about that? Yeah.

I mean, they need size, right? They need like a little more of a possession as interesting as the, that has. If they wanted more athleticism, they could go Sammy Brown from Miami. Who's more of a friend? I like the life of Badger as kind of a, Okay.

He's got really good hands. Yes. Also. You want to take Badger here? Give you a feeling, Church? I think he's a great number three. I don't think You want to take Badger here? Give you a few. I think it's a great, I think it's a great number three. I don't think he's like, I love that call. He's definitely way higher on him than consensus right now.

I'm cool with that. Let's go Elijah Badger. Yeah, let's go Badger. Go, go Gators baby. See Yawks, Graze Abel, Jared Wilson, Kyle Williams, Azariah Thomas, Terrence Ferguson. Ooh, they address that O-line. I think that, I mean, I would love that draft.

The chances are they do that draft is like zero. John Schneider and interior office align. It's not a mix, but that's what they need. We're doing what needs to happen here. Yeah, but that draft's electric for them, honestly. I agree with the comments. Get a two-gapping nose tackle, like a run plugger. All right, let's see what we got here.

Yeah, so Byron Murphy can be is Oh, Cameron Jackson. Yeah, slam dunk of that. Yeah, damn, damn. That's a really good pick. He's a really good player. Right. Yeah. I mean, the passage win percentage, he won't give you anything. His best is not him.

But like second down. Yes. Man, first he will make a long NFL living off first and second down. Great with it. Great with it. Cam Jackson there. Last pick of the fourth round, San Francisco 49ers, 138. We got Walter Nolan, Ariante Ersri, Landon Jackson. This is where Jess Moly came off the board as well. Nolan Manz, we're a good company.

I'm a Nolan. Yeah, yeah, yeah. I've said this on the show before, there is too much Jalen Carter that exists in Walter Nolan. Now he's not Jalen Carter, but there's too much of the DNA there for me to not take a chance on that guy in the top 20. Yeah, I mean, like, I think like Jalen Carter

was making him so special. It's just like, not only just like these explosive lower half of explosive upper half. And that's what I feel like, I think like Jayon Carter was making so special. It's just like, not only just like these explosive lower half and explosive upper half. And that's what I feel like about Nolan where it's like explosive lower half combined with explosive upper half where it's like, if he just figures out a little bit, it's high, high end stuff.

People were saying Jeff Bassa to the. For Yankees, oh yeah, they loved the, I mean the undersized athletes, they've developed those so well. Salah, his thing with linebacker is just like these smaller dudes that see ball get ball. They got Quincy Williams off the scrap heap turn new and all pro before that. He was a part of the Jags that drafted Miles Jack.

Like this just is obviously since it's San Francisco before. I'm good with that. Jeffery Bossett, right? Mike, are you good with it? Do it. Yeah, that feels right. There it is. There it is.

The final pick of the fourth round. Mike, we appreciate you to the man, Mike. Hey, before you leave, you getting any, what are like some draft takes from you? Obviously, like we had y'all in like round four. I mean, like you got any takes you want to get off your chest guys that you're higher on for like round one, day two, something like that. We'd love'd love to hear anything from you well David Walker is one of my guys I got to hit on him I love Willie Lampkin I like I believe he can be a starting center in the league somewhere Charles Grant I think is a starting and could even be a pro bowl tackle in the league

nice William Mary and then Kyle Williams I've been on I've been pumping him up for forever but the Washington statewide receiver I think he's like, I have him higher than Matthew Gold. I said Matthew Gold is like a second rounder. I think he's a fringe first rounder, Kyle Williams. So those are kind of my guys in this year's class. It's cool. I love it. I love it.

How many, how many quarterbacks you think end up going around one? I think two. I still think we only get two. I agree. I think it's him more than Chidor. That's it. I had the Dart and Mill Road getting invited though, threw me for a loop because they've started, they tried to cut that down.

Yeah. I mean, I guess Levis still was sitting there into round two. So maybe they don't, maybe they do it for the entry. You know what I was thinking? Oh, we got some Elijah Ponder love in the chat. I was just, we've seen a little bit of that. It's been a couple of comments about them. A lot of people, are you got some Elijah Ponder love in the chat. I was just, we've seen a little bit of that. It's been a couple of comments about a lot of people.

Are you big on Elijah Ponder, Mike? Cause it seemed like you joined and then people were like, what, we need Elijah Ponder cakes. Uh, I don't think I've watched the life. Oh wait, no, was he, no. Did he train tester from Cal Poly? He's probably a priority UDFA. Yeah.

Yeah. Uh, okay. So I just, I I just wonder because I felt like people were yelling about Elijah Fonda when you joined. So I wondered if he had the takes there. Shoot, what was he just saying? You said, oh, the thing about quarterbacks and getting invited. I think they also do that for TV, right? Because like quarterbacks are all the intrigue in the world.

They want to make sure those guys are there for when they get drafted. They want to be able to show it. They want to be able to clip it. They want to be able to clip it. So as much as it is like, oh, these are who the league thinks like could be first round picks. I think they fudge that with quarter with quarter. Okay. So they do a little bit more just to build the.

Yep. Okay. Interesting. Yeah. I got like that tech. I like that tech. All right, Mike, what are your draft plans for, for draft week? What are you doing?

So night one, I will be on the Bleach Report show, Curious Slay, Micah Parsons, and Lefkoe. And then I'll just be there Friday, Saturday, just doing YouTube videos for CBS and doing some CBS network stuff. So check that out. Hell yeah. Sweet, man.

Very excited. I think this draft's gonna be awesome because dude, no one knows after pick three. I know, I know. I think we're all gonna be dead because like dude, no one knows after pick three. I know I know Really dead wrong. I guess good really all over the place. So All right, cool Mike. Appreciate it brother. See you runner. Oh, you're doing well. Take it easy. Yeah All right, Connor Just back to us

Just us we're gonna go rapid-fire here through, I think the fifth, most of the six round make sure you get this thing under, under six hours. I got a giant's guess for pick one 54, but just that pick. Okay. Okay. Um, so we'll let's, let's go pretty fast. Every pick besides that. Uh, here's what we need to do first.

Since I won the bet, because you use the bathroom first, you took a break first. Uh, I'm going to pay you so give me 60 seconds. Hold on, talk about yourselves with the good fans. Oh, you could probably, you could read some of the super chats if you want. Yeah, that's a really good idea. Let's catch up on the super chats. Trevor, go do your thing.

I'll be right back. Yes. Oh, hello, my good people. It's just me and you now. All right, thanks, Nate. I love the channel, boys. Inspiring stuff for a guy looking to get into the industry. Keep up the good work.

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And I think they'll do that again. That's why we had DJ Giddens go to them in round three. The end of round three was a compensatory pick this from Hannibal cards had country Lambert Smith for a top 30. That's a good note possession kind of guy somebody that they would take later on day three if they went that road. Thank you to Giants Nation show Bobby Skinner. That is very, very friendly.

Very nice Bobby and Bobby will be joining us for pick 154 for the Giants, which is going to be sick. Kyle McCord round five to the Jets, that's from Des Jet. Eleven. Yeah. The Jets take a day three quarterback. McCord obviously would be in play. I don't know if they're going to use a pick on a quarterback, but ultimately we'll see. I think they're going to ride the seas now with Fields and Tyrod,

and we'll see how it goes. But it depends how these guys fall. Zachy, round five shirts off time. Unbelievable. Trevor, that was fast, by the way. Their comments are saying you didn't wash your hands. What am I, some animal? Yeah, sick animal?

No, of course. No, I just had to get back to the stream. What do you mean? When I got up, I ran downstairs, refilled the water, whatever leftovers was in my fridge, like the classic, like just tossed in my mouth and was running, let Gracie go out real quick. And then she did the old like lay down,

I'm not coming back in. And I'm like, I have to get back to the stream. So I had to bribe with a cookie to get her back in. This just sounds like this is not good. Garrison Anderson, a question I might be in your round, who would you realistically see your team draft that you would despise the pick? I think I've been honest about this. If the Jets took like Michael Williams at seven, I'd be really disappointed.

Trevor, you have a pick for the Bucks in the first round where you'd be like, I just don't get this. I don't know if like an I just don't get this, like if they pick swash in the first round, I think that that would be a because I think they like it's like that would be that would be rich for me. That would be pretty that would be pretty. People are asking for the fit in the wedding shirt. I'll get there.

Trevor and I are going to rip through the next people are also saying. People are also saying that I just like peed in the corner. Guys, I have a bath. That was really impressive. I have a bathroom two feet away in the same room. I didn't have to go out of the room. These comments, P Hands McGee. Oh man.

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we're getting off this thing at six o'clock. We're getting it done. So. All right, all right, all right. Minnesota Vikings, Donovan Jackson, Bernard Brodden, Kobe Bryant. What are we doing? Let's get it. Mickens, Mickens, need safety. They need safety. Yeah, Mickensdin, Kobe Bryant. What are we doing? Let's get Micken's knee safety.

They need. Yeah, Micken's is he's good, too. He's reliable. Caroline, there's Panthers, Jalen Walker's, Avery Watts, Jerry Porter and these people's after Thornton. I don't mind taking a second wide receiver here and seeing who pans out between Thornton and that player. OK, all right. I also don't mind. He's got to realize like how old Adam Thielen is.

But the question is, do we try to take a different plaque and Nick Nash possession player instead of that deep threat? I like an autumn on field, man. He's really interesting because some of his best plays, you're like, whoa. It's just his routes are a little unorthodox. Well, what about Ty Felton? Give him a little speed. I mean, he needs to speed. Well, that's what we did Thornton for. Yeah, but he's like vertical stretching speed. Ty Felton? Give him a little speed. I need to need some speed. Well, that's what we did Thornton for.

Yeah, but he's like vertical stretching speed. Ty Felton like underneath speed, you know, let's do it. Let's see Ty Felton there for the Carolina Panthers. Nick Neuhauser. Thank you for the super chat. Shout out. Gracias. Camp Titans, Cam Ward, Luther Burden, Femi Odejo, Xavier Restrepo.

Okay. Uh, actually what's their safety room look like? Yeah, chat, chat. I'm sure. Yeah, help us out, chat. We're dying. Xavier Woods. I think could use a safety. Oh, Craig Woodson here. Oh, yeah. They also do need to add a running back eventually.

Like I know they have Pollard and Tajay, but they the chat is shouting for Devin Neal, which is I kind of get it. It's a different player than what they have. All right, fine. Let's go, Devin Neal. I will live to please the chat right now. I have no problem doing that during rapid fires.

Jags, man, they've hit basically everything that they need here. They really have a strap's been awesome. Oh, another running back, honestly. Another one. Oh, no, no, never mind. I'm sorry. They have R.J. Harvey. No, yeah, that's my bet. Yep. Yep. Oh, Jalen Reed, Jalen Reed still here. Jalen Reed is to get off the board. So get us a more downhill safety than McCook

because McCook is gonna. They just drafted a safety. Maybe I can get him off the board with the Raiders. All right, I'm gonna get him off the board with the Raiders. Wide receiver? No. Man. Who is Jacksonville's backup quarterback right now?

Is it not Mac? I thought they didn't bring back Mac once the Niners. Oh yeah, he did. It's good point. Tyler Chuck. Tyler Chuck. Okay. All right.

We can shove out the board. Cool. Yeah. Wow. Tony with the $50 super chat. Love the jet strap so far at the Warren pick. Um, maybe they will take quarterback in next year's draft. Love the show guys. Uh, damn, we really appreciate Tony.

Thank you. Tony Lee, the man. Thanks, Tony. The absolute man. All right. So Tyler Shuck here to the Jags. Raiders, Raiders. Yeah.

I think this is where, uh, Jalen Reed comes off the board because who's their safeties right now. They lost, they lost Merrick. I Yeah, I think this is where Jalen Reed comes off the board because who's their safeties right now? They lost in. They lost Merrick. I'm drafting. I'm getting here. Like you got to realize these picks are depth here now. So and I think that Reed, it gives you high upside to potentially be a starter. I really do. OK. Patriots will Campbell, Jaden Higgins, Ozzy, Trapello, Dylan Sampson, Ashen Jiladi, like this.

Yeah, there's a lot to like this. No, they got back. How about how about depth on defensive line in case Barmore has health problems again? Oh, OK. Like it's good call out. Ty Robinson, you think? Yeah, there's your variable.

There we go. Hard nose. Cool. That's cool with it. Jets, Tyler Warren, Tyler Williams, Charles Grant, Isaac Tesla. Where are we going, Connor? It's your expertise. Oh, man, we need another safety because the safety room is really thin and we'll need another defensive lineman. I do like Sankar.

I think he's decent. Oh, yeah. Yeah, I like him. Yeah. I he's feisty as hell, man. He that's I thought of Aaron Glenn like the style of player who wanted this position. He's feisty. Let's go with Sankar. OK, works for me. Oh, Panthers back on the clock again.

Wow. Three fifth round picks. My goodness. I almost think that Sorrell is like too good a value to pass up here. Yeah, that's fine with me. I mean, listen, they need more edge players. It's totally fine. That's good. Me Niners. Nolan, Ursory, Jackson, Giddens, Wally, another pat. No, let's see who is the first day out, Nolan. This is we covered a lot of ground for the Niners. We did. We did. Another pat. No, let's see who is the first day out Nolan. This is we covered a lot of ground for the Niners. We did. We did.

We did. What about a guard? Like a depth developmental guard high upside. Willie Lampkin brother. He's right there. I'm taking what Willie Lampkin on this team is kind of awesome. Give him some full back. Give him some full back looks after the juice retires. Bairs Ash Gentie, Josh Connerly, Jr. Nick Gordon, Elijah Arroyo, D Tackle. All right, what do we got a rotational D Tackle? We got here a little little piggies.

Oh, I thought a talker right away. I knew you'd light up to that. Yeah. Yeah, one gap penetrating exactly. Why men let them go to war. Yeah, I'd really like this. Yeah. Yeah. One gap penetrating exactly lineman. Let him go to war. Yeah. Oh, I really like this. Yeah. Yeah. I like this. Okay, Tonka Hemingway there for him. Dallas Cowboys, man. I feel like we haven't picked the Cowboys in a while. McMillan, Trevion Henderson, Marcus bow. Yeah, we didn't have not picked for the Cowboys in a while. So Jake

Ferguson is a free agent after this. I don't know what the chat is like frozen for me or I'm still I'm still rolling. Still saying Alfred Collins. I see people saying Alfred Collins. We took Melo Dosser ready, right? You guys are sick. Yeah, he's off the board. Let's get a corner. There's some good corners left.

Burke Burke. You like him here? Oh, I like Mac Mc. I was saying Max the better player. All right, Mac McWilliams. Let's go a little little feisty. So he is so feisty feisty slot. Mac McWilliams there.

Miami Dolphins Miami Dolphins Miami. What pick are we at? 150. Will Johnson, Alfred Collins, you know, in case they want to pick Alfred Collins again. Let's get depth at wide receiver because they just love, they can't help themselves. Okay. I'm actually I. Yeah. I think what would what did Mumfield test any test? Well, he just he ran a little slower than I expected, but he's. Let me double check.

Right. My my. Yeah, four or five, nine. But his jumps were OK. Yeah, four or five, nine. But. His jumps were OK. Where was where is Samuel Brown? He's freakish, he's size speed. Houston film was better than Miami film. All right, we're going to Amy Brown. OK, I think I think that's one that makes the most sense for them.

Their type. All right, apparently we got to draft the high RAS guy here for the Colts. Campbell, Mason Taylor, Wyatt Milam, Jack Sawyer. What's your safety room look like right now? They spent money on it. They got Bynum. Oh, they do have my name. They have Nick.

This would be a third safety, which is OK. It's OK. We could go with that potentially. Marcus, thank you for the $50. That franchise guy, Marcus, who has been on our channel, loves Tyler Shuck. He said, can't believe I pop in to see this Tyler Shuck slander continue, fifth round steal.

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Who they who's a running back? Who do we still got on board? Is there an R.A.S. God? Is there an animal? I don Is there an RAS God? I don't know what. Well, I mean. No. Oh, your boy, Ja'Corey. Ja'Corey.

Yeah. Or Jordan James. I think they like Jordan James. You're high. Laquint now too. I know there's always people who are shouting for some Laquint now in love. Fifth round, I can pick any of these guys.

Who do you want? I think Ja'Corey has the highest upside. There it is. Jacori, cross-comer, there we go. Arizona Cardinals. Let's see, tackle edge, corner, linebacker. Boy, we have hits, defense, the defensive needs for them there.

I've got a wide receiver. We could go wide receiver, or interior defensive line for them, whichever one. I don't know. What's that? I wouldn't do Pat Bryant. If they want speed. Chimera, decay, yeah, or Taz. Would be the speed,

so he is Ricky White special, the high end special teams. I I'm cool with Tess here, man. Yeah, just take a shot. And I know he's a size outlier, but I know just just he has to be a separator for you. The Cincinnati Bengals. Kenneth Grant, Jonah, Salmon, IEA, Josiah Stewart, Jack Kaiser. And what are the other needs for them? Pick forfeited. Let's see. He's playing guard. So we got that defensive line linebacker edge rusher. I mean, they could go another edge rusher if there's somebody

on the board that we like. Yeah, they might need to. Tyler Beatty. I think they would like him. Sure. Antoine Powell,land, your boy, Jod Joyner. Jod Joyner's got some juice. You like him? I think I can. I do like Jod. I thought his film in 2023 was better. Yes.

Let's see if Bobby is ready to jump in. Oh, is this the Giants? Yeah, we are on the clock for the Giants. Okay, all right, all right, all right. Just a single pick, just him getting in. Pinch runner. Just just a single pick. Just getting a pinch runner. There he is.

I thought about just jumping on saying a name and then jumping off. Just that would have been the best appearance we've had. Just scream a name. Bobby Skinner Giants Nation show. You guys should all follow that YouTube Patreon. Dude, 154 Trevor show Bobby the draft so far for the Giants Nation show. You guys should all follow that YouTube Patreon dude 154. Trevor show Bobby the draft so far for the Giants. I think it's been pretty solid the way the board fell for them. We didn't trade back.

We got a dual Carter. That's an easy one. At the top of the second CJ West miles Frazier mellow dots. Just what we got for him. I feel like we're hitting the main knee. Yeah I just got to talk ceiling for three years with Jalen Milrow and it never worked out. But no I like the swing.

You know at least take a swing right. I get to use all the buzzwords swing and ceiling. Is Cam Jackson there? No he went. Yeah He went. He went. Is Jackson there? Yeah, he went. Oh, man. Oh, yeah. That we might be losing Bobby.

I like the comment that says Bobby might need to see all 150 picks for context. Just run it all back. Oh, man. We get it. We get Bobby. Bobby froze. If we get him back on in a second, Just run it all back. Oh, man. We get it. We get Bobby. Bobby froze. If we get him back on in a second, he'll drop this pick. If not, Trevor and I'll keep the train rolling.

He could he could he could text you. Why I will I will. Somebody said, ask Bobby about Alfred Collins. Bobby, what do you think Alfred Collins in the fifth? Pretty good value. You like him. He would go on over. He'd go on. Oh, I like a think of Alfred Collins in the fifth? Pretty good value, right? Oh, you like him? He would go on to, oh, I like Alva Croc a lot. You know, he's got an anchor. He's got like, you know, they're like, dude, we love it too.

He went in the second. So he's actually not available. Oh my God, that would be amazing. Oh, baby drop there. Okay, let me know if he texts you within the next, like, I don't know, 60 seconds and then we'll- Yeah, we'll keep it moving. I told him he could DM it to me. We'll see if he gets that. the next like, I don't know, 60 seconds and then we'll yeah, we'll keep it moving. I told him he could DM it to me.

We'll see if he gets that. It seemed like he didn't have a. He said the chat. I know that his his cult following, which is very real, makes fun of his Wi-Fi. So it's great to see running off that Walmart Wi-Fi. Give Bobby Desmond Watson. Oh, man. All right.

Great. Let's make a pick. It's OK. All right. What do we do? Let's make a pick. It's OK. What are we hitting here for him? So they probably need a running back to pair with Tyrone Tracy. OK. And this is a good board like Jarquis Hunter is a good player, man. Yeah. Yeah, that's him. I'll keep it on guy in Jersey. Come on. Kyle, my guy.

All right. Fine. We'll take my guy. Great with me. Great with me. Trevor was never going to deny me that one. No, I can't do it. I couldn't do it to you. Oh, Miami's back on the clock. Geez. God. Jackson Hawes blocking tight end. Yeah. Free things up a little bit for them to don't have this guy.

I don't hate it. Let's go. Jack's house here. That's fine with me. Steelers. Harman Martinez, Will Howard corner. They need corner for the love of God. Can we just draft them a corner? We have to. Jason Will Howard went when I was gone.

Whoa, yeah, yeah, yeah. We got John. Was that a John decision? No, well, that was a John pick. That was all John hates like every player, so it's amazing to see him take will. John does indeed hate every player. That's true. It's true. Yeah. I like that though.

That's he loves. He loves. Oh, that's incredible. Okay. Corner. I think they will like Jason Marshall Jr. The most because he's got a lot of experience in press. Yeah. Okay. So let's go Jason Marshall Jr. here for the minute. See what I did. I brought extra water this time.

Smart, smart, smart, smart. The Buccaneers here. Ezraku, Karsten Schlesinger, Jacob Paris, Thomas Fanoni II. What defensive tack you partner? I bet they'd like Drew Kendall. I do think that they would like him. Like a center with, you know, a technique based center. He is a center only though.

Yeah, he is. I mean, D Tackle Trevor, I know they're really good at D Tackle, but do you capitalize off of how good this draft is? Yeah, but I don't know who they pick here. Right, yeah, I don't. I guess maybe Cam Horsley. Yeah, it's a bowl, Steve Tackle is Horsley.

Yeah, let's take Horsley here, that's fine. Let's get the interior defensive linemen off the board. All right, Chargers, Lovedlen, Swinson, Royals, Tooten. Thank you Destinoino can Sebastian Castro, Steelers. Low Steelers. Oh, well, you might get your wish later on. I actually will. We'll fulfill that wish at some point.

When is we don't we don't care. I actually don't know what it is. Oh, it's one day. It's one eighty five. We're coming. Asher, you are a steeler. Hey, come on. Can't break the draft. I've never done that before.

Oh, we got a defensive line. Come on. Yeah, they have a need there. Tim Smith is so boring, but if they want somebody to just try to hold on, then it's a yeah. I think he's I think he is their type of player. I think so, too. They draft the nearly 400 man. Do they draft the nearly 500 man?

Do they draft the big show? Dude, you know what? I'll never say no to this. Did they need beef? Take the beefiest player on the in the draft. I don't know if he's going in the fifth. I think we got to save him. He might be a UDFA.

Yeah. Yeah. We'll go Tim Smith here for them. I think I would blow the entire UDFA budget for him though. Sure. Absolutely. For vibes not for them. I think I would blow the entire UDF a budget for him, though. Sure. Absolutely. Just for vibes, not for wins. 100 percent.

And making Bucca JT to him below out, Noel Williams, Jordan Phillips here for the Green Bay Packers. Those are the picks there. I mean, could go corner again, honestly. I don't hate it. Jalen Travis getting some love for the Packers. Oh, I'd fulfill that wish. He's actually their type.

Yeah, of course. Hmm. Let's do it. OK, cool to me. It makes sense. It's real tackle depth. Yeah, I like it. OK, cool to me. It makes sense. It's real tackle depth. Yeah, I like it. Niners, the Niners just are always picking.

They are always picking. You better get used to a buddy. They got I know. I kind of want to make Skendi happy and just take Ricky White for the I think this is like the 10th Ricky White Super Chat. They would they would not take Ricky white. You know, I do think that they would take is Benjamin Urusek. Okay. Sure.

There's not really anybody behind George Kittle and he can also play like wing back for you. He could play full back for you. He could play in this lot for you. I like your second lot. I think that they actually get the most out of him here. Okay. Eagles. Rebel Winston Rivers. Walk tight end.

Oh, okay. Mitchell. This is Mitchell Evans. Mitchell Evans. Mitchell. Or do you think they'd go for like the size uniqueness of Jalen Conyers from They could. It's just Mitch is more accomplished, like more higher floor. All right. OK, we'll go. Mitchell Evans here to the Eagles.

New York Jets again. Oh, you what are we doing? So we got a safety. We got Warren receiver. We actually have been pretty balanced so far with the Jets. I think I could double up on D line or wide receiver. So all right. Why receiver and Kyle McCord still there.

Tom McCord is still got Jeff. Fans are obsessed with him. Let's look at the actual players that would help the team this year first. And then if we have to go that way, we can go that way. OK. All right. Man, I kind of want to take Q Robinson, but he's he's small. He's small for Glenn's defense. It's they have Will MacDonald already. Yeah. He would be the Will MacDonald like that. Right.

You know, keep going. Powell, Rylan, Engel, Dawkins, Tether Baron. Junior, Tofunu, like literally everybody loves this dude. So really, I mean, we got to draft them at some point. I'm not the biggest fan, but I think you're right. Yeah, I think he's a hard worker. He was a senior bowl addition. He was, I remember correctly. Yeah.

I think I think it's Nick Nash here. Oh. Because we went with. Even with Tesla? Yeah, you're right. Tesla's more athletic, but they both would kind of play the same role. Yeah, way more. Man, this is kind of tough.

Are we taking Kyle McCord? Let's take McCord. There he is. There you go, Jets fans. They love this so much. We'll give them McCord. Panthers back on the clock. Yeah, great Panthers draft. Jalen Walker, Xavier Watts, Darian Porter, and E.S. Peebles.

Deontay Thornton or Torrey Horton. Depends. Depends who you talk to. Yeah. Ty Felton, Baron Sorrell. Man. Good draft. It's just comment section saying Honda McCord. This gets just gets me low moving costs. You're right, people. Low moving costs indeed. What about what about piggies here? I. Let's see.

It's not pretty after the money they spent on the D line, like behind those guys. They have Jalen Crumb to use. It's basically like, do you think the Piggies is a better version of Tysh? Shytuttle. Yeah. Which I guess that I can be in that and they could play him a fullback. That's yeah, the comment section gets it. They've got Joseph Smith Wade. Did we draft this safety for the Xavier Watts? All right, we'll do peace.

Is the chat saying Piggies? The chat is there's some love for Piggies. I'm also seeing some Dion Walker. Ah, I like Piggies more than Walker. All right, chat fired off. You got 20 seconds to push, push the geese. Piggies can play wildcat quarterback for you. That's the thing.

Somebody just said the chat Singha is dealing. I got to put the mech game on one of these monitors. We're going to do it. I totally forgot it was a four ten store. Yeah, I'm good with Piggies. We're going to do it. I totally forgot it was a four 10 store. Yeah, I'm good with piggies. Bro, do you see the lightning don't start until Tuesday? Yeah. How is that possible? I I so I saw somewhere that it's because like ESPN has some basketball rights.

Oh, so they got to balance it out. Broadcasting. Yeah. So Walker Collins. Yeah, yeah, it's a good debate there, Jake. Alfred Collins, your baby Collins. Yeah, for your positive vibes and my own belief, I bet the lightning to win the East like way before the playoffs. Wow. It's a pretty fat number. And so I am I am with the Rangers out.

I am like the lightning will be the second most important thing I watch in sports behind the Mets. Seriously. You better hope that Andre Vasilevsky flips isn't a pumpkin flips the goddamn switch. Yeah, I know. I'm nervous as you are. I'm taking I don't know if you are actually. I don't know if you are. Right, not. Okay, this is a good call out from somebody on the chat.

We got the Philadelphia Eagles up here. Turing and Ingram Dawkins. Hell yeah. I mean, it's not even just the Georgia thing, it's the body. Yes, extreme, extreme athlete. He is a total project player, but you could draft him and develop him.

Especially because we don't have an interior defense lineman for them right now anyway. So I'm going to go get anger. Dawkins there for them. There's no way they pick back to back. They do indeed pick back to back. There's just no possible way I've been had. Wait, is this where we were getting Sebastian Cashew off the board or no? No Steelers. Oh, Steelers, Steelers. Right. Right. Right. Right. Right. Right.

Wait a second. I might have an idea, but it might be terrible. No. Let him cook, perhaps. I was going to say we're thinking about letting him cook. I was going to say a third quarterback, but they traded for DTR behind. They did. So it did. That's not happened. What about a true offball linebacker? He actually like this.

I'm actually doing it. I'm actually doing it. I'm going over. He's doing it. We're doing we're doing linebacker, but which one? Stutzman, Stutzman, he shouldn't be here. OK, all right, all right. You shouldn't be here. You are not supposed to be here.

All right, getting Stutzman off the board in the fifth. Great value. I do agree. Houston Texans, Tyler Booker, Jalen Noel, Jamari Caldwell, Cam Williams. That's back to back beef right there. And Tyler Booker first. I mean, how do we feel about Seth McLaughlin? At this range, center depth would probably be a good idea. And he's the best one available. Yes. I mean, all they got to pattern. Yeah, I'm taking Seth McLaughlin at this range center depth would probably be a good idea. And he's the best one available.

Yes. I mean, all they got is Patterson. Yeah, I'm taking Seth McLaughlin. I mean, yeah, doing it. Titans 167. Chat, what's happening here? Let us know. You're very influential with the Devon Neal pick previously. Yeah, we lean on tiny fans.

Oh, a lot of offense here. A lot of offense. Do we need to get Tyler Beatty off the board? I was going to say a front seven player. We do. Let's see. Oh, OK. Yeah, I mean, their pastors right now. Yeah, let's let's let's let's

we're drafting an edge rusher here. All right. All right, chat, Antoine Powell, Ryland, quandary is Robinson or Tyler Beatty. You tell me one of those three. And I will let them decide. Somebody said CrossFit. I don't know if that's an answer to the question or not. I don't think that qualifies. Pal Ryland, Quan Darius.

Oh, Q Rob, yeah, Quan Darius. That's what I'm saying. No, but the chat kind of is on that one, although the chat's also on Pal Ryland. Yeah. Chat's on Pal Ryland, they win. All right, Pal Ryland, it is the man with the nasty, one of the nastiest spin moves in the class,

if not the nastiest inside spin move in the class. I saw it up close and personal. When at the Shrine Bowl, they needed me to sub in an offensive tackle and practice. No, I'm just kidding. I was there though, I was watching it and it is the thing of beauty, it really is. Philadelphia Eagles after back to back picks

and then two picks that aren't their own, they're selfishly back here on the board for their final pick of this mock draft. This is it for Philly. Rebel Winston, Jalen Rivers, David Walker, Mitchell Evans, Ingram Dawkins, Danny Stutzman. Man. Who's still running back right now?

No more Gainwell finally, right? He left for the Steelers. What do you mean finally? As if he's like been holding him. I like gain well, I'm just saying. I felt like he was there for 10 years. He was. Saquon, A.J.

Dillon, Will Shipley, that is ugly. Whoa. Come on, dude. Whoa. Let's get it. Let's get a good backup for Saquon. Quas Hunter. Yeah, Quas is a good backup for Saquon. Quest Hunter. Yeah, quiz is a good player. Raheem Sanders.

If they want that pass catcher, I know Shipley's probably supposed to be that. I would say scroll down a little bit. Oh, well, a quince prize still there. Yeah. Yeah. And what he marks what he marks to. I actually think that they would love Jordan James. Probably. Yeah, they probably would like Jordan James.

Let's take Jordan. No nonsense. There you go. Eagles fans, you're done. Get out of here. Just kidding. We love you. You're done. You can go home now. We still have over 2,600 people who are watching the show. We are five hours into this live stream and we still have 2,600 people who are watching. Y'all are sick, true addicts, and we'd love you to death for it. We really do. Buffalo Bills, Maxwell Harrison, Nicki Minmori, Gary Salisander, Savion Williams, Emery Jones. I mean, could use a different wide receiver here, I think. Oh, I'm at Hosni though. That's what the CrossFit comment was about, by the way. Ah, yeah, that would make sense. They thought they followed up. CrossFit. That's what the CrossFit comment was about, by the way. Ah, yeah, that would make sense. They thought they followed up.

CrossFit. That's it. Just that. Just that. Oh, shout out for the Carson Brunner love in the chat. Brunner, it will be a great special teams player in the NFL. Maybe they don't need him because they have AJ Appanessa. They just signed Michael Hoyt. I know he's out, but it's a long term pick anyways. They have Joey Bosa, they have Greg Russo, they have Jovan Solomon.

All right, maybe they don't need that. Rashard Smith getting love in the comments. Oh, but they have Ray Davis, anti-Johnson and I know look and Frank Gore Jr. Don't sleep. Sorry, I was sleeping. You were sleeping. Sean Dolak appearing in the comments. That's definitely Brett Coleman.

I don't hate taking a quarterback here for them because number one, I think Chubisky is cheeks and to like it's Shane Boucher and Mike White behind him. I'm taking I'm taking Riley Leonard. Yeah, right. Exactly. He's actually perfect. OK, I'm taking I'm taking Riley Leonard. Yeah, right, exactly. He's actually perfect. OK, I'm glad you're with me on that. Yeah, really, Leonard.

There we go. Oh, the bills again. Oh, come on. You can't be serious. Good point in the comments. There's the contracts going on with Cook and it's not going anywhere. So if you wanted to take a running back, you could.

That's fine. Let's do it. Let's I mean, there's so That's fine. Let's do it. I mean, there's so many good ones. Quez Hunter, Rashard Smith, who you really have been on early. Shout out to Dalton for that one. Dalton Wasserman.

Put me on Rashard Smith. Shout out to Dalton. He's probably a happy man right now as the Mets are finally scoring some runs. Nice, love that. All right, let's go Rashard Smith. Okay. Good throw down back.

New England Patriots. We drafted D-line the last couple of picks. OK. Good third down back. You know, the Patriots. We draft the D line the last couple of picks, we got our own line. We got some offensive weapons here. What's their slot corner situation? I think they have Marcus Jones, right? Yeah, because they're going to have Carleton and Christian Gonzalez on the outside, which is really good. Yeah. And then they got Marcus Jones there.

I mean, did they just go? I was thinking about a spashing Castro, but maybe I can't rob the Steelers of that player. If you think Campbell's Guard, you can go with Crenshaw-Dixon. What's their linebacker situation? They sign Spillane, but I think they need a linebacker. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. I think Kobe King would be who I would think here. Okay.

All right. Works for me. Yeah. Bigger. Yeah. Stronger. Smile Munded Jr. as well. I think this is where we start talking about him.

Could talk about him in round four. Honestly. All right. We'll go. Copa King Seahawks. Man, they can go. London. Zabel, Jared Wilson, Kyle Williams, Zari Thomas, Terrence Ferguson,

Cameron Jackson. We're just hitting so many good need. We're so in so many needs for this team. Yeah, the Seahawks are the most fun team to do a mock draft for truly. Receiver or Quay Robinson. Let's see receivers that are there and then address Quay. Quay would be perfect for them. Yep. All right. I'm doing that.

Quay Robinson, 22.4 pass between percentage. The pills is the pills are just always picking. What? They're just always picking. Always be picking ABP. Can never go wrong. Hmm. Oh, what's their slot corner situation like? Did we draft one for them?

I guess we did. Well, we have an outside corner and then a safety for them because Jordan Hancock, I think, is a great player in the slot for them. Yeah, he's a weird one. Or we could just do another developmental sort of like tackle player, you know, like they're depth. Like insane traits. Oh, Luke Kendra is still here. We should probably pick Kendra.

Okay. My guard for them. Okay. I like that. Lions, or sorry, Dallas Cowboys, Tetra Mcmillan, Trevion Henderson, Marcus Bowe, Mac McWilliams. Van Henderson, Marcus Bowe, Mack McWilliams. There was something I thought we wanted to do in this spot.

Pass rusher, Hassaneen. I think Hassaneen is that's a good call. Right. Hassaneen or Beatty? Yeah. Wait, because who do they have right now? Fowler. Parsons, obviously, but like Sam Williams. Oh, they need a run stuffer still. Oh, we forget that's what we were talking about, and then we didn't go through with it. Damn. I mean, Biggers has the size of your run stuffer, but his numbers weren't great.

Watson. Damn. All right. Fine. I'll do it. Do it. I'll do it. Doesn't Watson off the board. Seattle back at the clock. This is my nightmare. Oh, my God. They just keep picking. Hold on. Scroll up.

Why don't did we take Pat Bryant anywhere yet? No. That Bryant double up a wide receiver. Love it. Some more stock. Yeah. What a draft. What a draft for him. Sorry. Get some more stock. Yeah. What a draft. What a draft for him. Sorry, I just punched my. Yeah, you're furious. Yeah, yeah.

Or celebrating. Yeah. All right, Ravens. Starks, Chanders. Starks, Boros, McIntyre, excuse me, Jordan Birch, Quincy Riley, Elijah Badger. Do they need a backup running back? They have Henry and Justice Hill.

Oh, they have Keaton Mitchell. Yeah, they're they paid Hill to as a backup. Okay. All right. All right. All right. Maybe another tight end because it feels like Mark Andrews time is. And I know they I know they have likely, but they play a ton of heavy personnel.

I can go. Conyers are are to pre here, honestly. And yeah, Jaylen Conyers is that's a really ideal fit for them.