NFL Stock Exchange: An NFL Draft Podcast - NEW 2026 1st-Round COLLAB Mock Draft (w/ That Franchise Guy)

Episode Date: March 23, 2026

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The issues for Kilgore, I also had of Eman Worry. And I'm not saying that South Carolina is not teaching these guys the right way. That's not what I'm trying to say at all. I think that's a good program. You felt the Lissa breathing down your back on that line. I've never said a bad word about South Carolina. I love my wife. Jill and Kilgore is my number two player in the track.

Rusal Faison, I think you should get talking about his RB1. I don't know why we're not talking about him enough. I love my wife. Exchange Podcast. Trevor Sica, McCona Rogers, with you here as always, but also. joined by the one and only that franchise guy himself, our good pal Marcus Whitman, who is kicking off the co-lab mock draft series here on the show. Marcus, how you doing, my friend?

I'm very excited that you are the first one. You're batting lead off here because every single time that we co-lab with you, the people love it. We have a lot of fun. So we appreciate you joining him once again, my friend. How you doing? I'm doing great. Super excited for this.

I mean, like you said, this is one of my favorite. favorite recordings of the year. It's so cool to be on the show and a part of what you guys are doing. I know we have a lot of crossover with our fans. It's to the point where every other video at this point, I'm getting some kind of stock exchange lore in the chat, whether it's a nickname. Actually, actually, we don't apologize for that, but we do feel you. It's great. I just, I see like crazy nicknames and I'm like, yep, that must have been something Trevor and Connor came up with. Or someone in the chat. But yeah, super, super excited.

By the way, Austin Corbett, now known as the babysitter. The babysitter. Because one of the listeners of our show, Austin Corbett was their babysitter growing up. So we're going to try to make sure that we get in contact with pro football reference that we got to get that officially like on their player page to call them the babysitter. That's the next steps there. So we're here for a brand new,

what we would do, mock draft. And that's why the Colab mock draft series is so much fun because Connor feels like for a month and a half, we have been doing predictive mocks, which we should, you know, like after the combine, after the senior bowl, after free agency. We're trying to give people an idea of what we think is going to happen. But we are draft analysts at the end of the day. So now we get to put on that analyst cap, sit in our GM seat, and actually get to make the picks ourselves. Marcus is on my amount rush more of co-lab guests.

Yeah, baby. Yeah. Marcus, Nate Tice, a lot of different people. I see what you're doing here. No, I see what you're doing here. You're going to omit one name specifically. Yeah, right. Brett N.J. Brett N.J.

Of course, Brett N.J. Of course. Of course. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Yeah. You know, I could go through more and I surpass the four spots needed. But those guys are all on my Mount Rushmore of Co-Lab mock drafters. Marcus, you just got to take, you just got to take, did you guys do four last year? I think we did do four last year. Brett and E.J.

Marcus. Did we have Bengel last year or no? I don't remember. I don't remember if we did last year. But Marcus, that's the, he's omitting Bengal. No, because Connor and Bengal is like the greatest rivalry in sports right now, it feels like. I was going to say to not offend anybody, you could just have AI, like, meld the faces of, like, Brett and E.J., and that's one face on Mount Rushmore. There you go.

Right, right. For each four episodes, you could have one combined face. And then mine's unaltered, fortunately. No, but you're the solo. And you know what? You're one of our favorite guests. You're one of our listeners' favorite guests. And to be honest with you, we got a super chat already about you, Marcus.

Because the first super chat from Brenda was, can you ask Marcus why he thinks Jonah Coleman should be shipped to Guantanamo Bay? Explain yourself here, Marcus. This is concerning. Go ahead. Go ahead. It's a stream accusation. Can we get the spotlight on him? Can we get spotlight on him?

Should we get spot my cam on Marcus real quick? Take it's full. Yeah, there it is. Oh, there it is. There it is. Yeah. Don't you love you're invited on the show as a guest and you're just a million. Trevor and I get pick on each other about 360 days a year.

So this is our one chance to team up and just absolutely destroy someone that doesn't deserve it at all, to be honest with you. You're a good person, Marcus. Okay, so really, really quickly, like actually like Jonah Coleman thoughts. You just not a big fan? Jonah Coleman thoughts. I was. So like a lot. I like a lot of the backs in this class that don't have like the freaky traits.

Like I don't think you need to be a super athlete. But I am just really concerned that he has like enough juice. And it's very possible that I'm just like a very scarred Packers fan that went through the A.J. Dillon experience. But I do see a lot of similarities in the sense of like, I just don't know that he's urgent enough up to the line that he has enough juice. Even to like maximize his power a lot of times, like to generate the acceleration to hit the hole and plow through a lot of that contact. You know, I really like him, honestly, for a lot of

reasons that A.J. Dillon was good, which is like, if you need two yards, he'll get you two yards. If he need eight yards, he'll get you two yards. But he's like a really good pass catcher, too. So I think there's like third down value and short yardage value, but I just, as a day two pick, I don't see him being someone that you end up all that excited about giving 12 plus carries a game. Granted, I have been, since I had the take, I've had probably like eight people reach out about his injury this year and tell me to go back

to 2024. So we'll see if that changes my opinion on him, but for me is more of early day three role players back than. Yeah, I have a really important follow-up here. What are your, because you're a Midwest guy at heart. What are your thoughts on the grocery chain known as Safeway? This is good.

Yeah. Yeah, yeah, yeah. So we, Minnesota, we don't have a ton of Safeways. Okay. We're like Cub Foods is like our version of that. Never heard of it. So unfortunately I don't have strong Safeway opinions. And even when we are in Charlotte, there's not.

No, there's not over here on the East Coast. Yeah, it's Harris TV Republics, basically. Well, don't worry. You don't have to have a strong opinion on Safeway because our chat has enough strong opinions on Safeway and that it is like the worst corporation to have ever existed apparently and I did Connor said it a couple episodes ago I didn't know you could have this much disdain for a grocery store but apparently the apparently the chat has those thoughts and feelings Connor I don't know before dig into the mock draft really quick I don't know if you saw the early

super chats here outside of the Jonah Coleman one so Colin give us a $10 super chat said I know no king but the king of NFLSC whose name is Bryce down with Peter the pretender oh my god but hold on here minutes later, mere minutes later, Owen, $5 super chat said, down with Bryce the bozo, the king of NFLSE is Peter the powerful. This is like incredible Game of Thrones style lore. The addicts are now actually splitting and having a civil war over who should be the king of the chat amongst the most financial influential super shatters.

Right, right, right, right. So this is problematic. but also when's the election? Excellent for content. I don't know when the election is. Maybe it's not an election. Maybe it's just an arm wrestling contest at the first NFLLSA live show whenever that is. Maybe we'll just have to make that happen.

Well, the hell on a cell bar. Yeah, that's true. That's true. Somebody's going to have to hire Tyson Bayesian's dad to train them in the ways of arm wrestling and then they can take the front seat. Big Cheeto, really quick, $5 super chat said, I took you all his advice and went after Big Tucks. Now six black SUVs are out.

side of my house. Is it over? Yeah, I think you cooked me, Cheeto. Thank you for the last super chat. Yeah, we appreciate it. Last one, before we dig into the mock draft. This is from Bryce, one of the candidates. Said, Mark's draft takes aside, what's his stance on red chimicherry? Thoughts overall. This is the Chipotle debate? Yeah, I mean, this is where it stems, yes, because I'm a huge fan of the red chimicherry, which has been discontinued, sadly, and the chat was giving me a lot of crap for liking it, but I'm a simple man. I don't know. Are you a simple man? I tried it once. I thought it was good.

All right, there we go. It's all I needed. I feel like Shepole, it's just like, I like what I like there, and I've gotten the same order since I was in, like, high school. I'm the same exact way. Very fair. Very fair. But I did try it, and I was like, this is good.

It fits my flavor profile. I like good, you know, extra spice in there, so. Look, I have no complaints. This is all I needed to start a war with the chat forever. I'll never back down. I'll never back down now. That's all I needed. Borkington goes, guys, we are scaring Marcus.

No, he's built for this. We wouldn't do it if he wasn't built for it. Yeah, 100%. We got the important stuff out of the way. Now to the secondary aspect of the show, a first round mock draft, I guess. We really have to. Let's dig into it, brother.

Let's pull up the PFF mock draft simulator. We're going to run a brand new first round. What we would do mock draft. I don't know if you guys have preferences on where you would rather go. Marcus, I would say that because we would like as much of your analysis as possible as the guests here on the show,

do you have a preference between picking first or second? and so you get the, you're guaranteed to not get shortchanged on a pick here. I have a suggestion. I'm sorry I didn't say this before we got started, but okay. How about we fast forward one? Okay. You guys want to go to 36? Oh.

And do the Raiders? Second pick? Oh, sure. Yeah, I like that. What a great suggestion. I know Raiders fans would really like that because they have told me they are dying for second round mocks because they have no fun in first rounders. Yeah.

to make sense. There we go. Okay, I like it. I like it. So essentially we're simming one because there's not really, I do want to ask you one question about number one, but I do like this that we get to the Raiders at the top of the second round. So with that being said, two, three or four, how do you, well, actually,

no, I'm kind of going to make you pick for the Jets here. Is that all right? Because I kind of want you to, I want you to then pick for the Raiders, if that's how the math works out correctly. I don't know if it does, Trevor. It might, but I, I am. done zero adding up to actually confirm that. All right.

Well, Marcus, you're going to pick second. I'm going to pick third and then Connor's going to pick fourth. I think it's perfect. Okay, there we go. Yeah, Trevor, I didn't bring my calculator from our free agency mock draft. Yeah, that was, which was a time, by the way. Wait, have you been keep a score? Who won?

Who won that? I'm going to tally it up. I feel like we're pretty close to knowing who the winner was. I know it was not me because I don't think I hit a single pick in that. I'm sure it was Garrett because he said a long snapper and a punt. punner. Well, the funniest was a re-said the Vikings punter was going to re-sign with Minnesota,

and then he didn't. He went to the same. Connor, I was on Marcus's show for like a... This is an absolute madness. It was like, it was a free agent, essentially like almost like an auction draft type of a thing where we would take turns saying like a certain player and we would have to take a guess of what they would sign for,

how many years, and what team. And you would get like points like for, every part of that that you got correct. And we, you know, we started with, you know, Kyler and then, you know, Alec Pierce and Nicobi Dean and all this. And then Garrett is like,

Andrew DePaul, the Vikings long snapper, they love him, one year, vet minimum. And we were, we were just booing him and throwing tomatoes because it was, because you're just trying to hit on, like they, like the long snapper counts the same as guessing where, like, Kenneth Walker would go. Correct.

You get the last points, but you're, like, guaranteed to get those points. I mean, that's incredible work by Garrett taking that strategy, though. Look, it's on ethical it's on ethical podcasting. That's what it is. Now I've got to build in all these rules for next year. No specialists. It's the ban on a bio of

free agency pick shows. That's what that was. Andrew in the chat said, I will pick for the Raiders in round two because pick four will eventually take 36. Thank you for doing the math for us, Andrew. If you're right, I don't even checking if you're right. I'm just assuming you are. Good. I wanted to give you more work anyways. So let's

pull this up. We're going with Fernando Mendoza, obviously, at number one overall. But Marcus, what I wanted to say about number one is, would you rather have Fernando Mendoza over Cam Ward? I think that is the real kind of like talking point that people want to know at this point. Is this just,

hey, we're taking Fernando because there's no other options? Or is he somewhat of a, like, a legit, number one overall type of quarterback option. And I think an easier way to bring that into the picture is, who would you have rather had Cam Ward or Fernando Mendoza.

Yeah, I love the question. I had a higher grade on Cam Ward for me, because it was a similar discussion last year, for sure. I landed closer to, like, Cam Ward is closer to a we're taking him because we think he's worth the number one pick than I feel

with Mendoza. I think there are like real legitimate points about kind of the ease of his situation at Indiana. For the most part, like made the same throws week to week, a lot of back shoulders and outside the numbers stuff, a lot of first read throws. I was actually surprised how few times we saw Mendoza, like surveying the field, making those

NFL progressions. I think the upside with the mobility is like, it is what it is. It's not going to shatter his upside or anything like that, but definitely doesn't have the ability to make himself right that Cam Ward had as he kind of goes through his development. So I look at Mendoza. and I think what I wrote was he's just good enough to justify it, I think, and talk yourself into like worst case scenario, we need a QB. If we'd take him at four, let's take him at one, that type of deal.

Whereas Cam Ward, I felt much more confident, like this guy is good enough for it. I think Mendoza in an average QB draft is not going to be the QB1. And I would say Cam Ward was maybe on average about the QB1, if that makes sense. if I explain that right. No, I think so. I like Fernando more than I liked Cam Ward, but I was just, I'm real worried about the turnover, I'll say like seeds and roots that sort of exist in his play style.

Like it's not just the throws, it's also the fumbles, which very clearly were once again a major problem for him this season. So I did like both quarterbacks, but I would have Fernando a little bit ahead of Cam Ward. Connor, do you have a strong take one way or the other? there? I would have Ward slightly ahead of Mendoza, but I think Mendoza is obviously well worthy of being the number one picking the draft. It's yes, you know, it's, it would be more interesting if

Mendoza, of course, was in the class where six guys went in the top 12 to kind of dissect it that way. But yeah, it's very close. They're such different players, what they're both good at and what they both are limited at. But I think it would be slightly Cam Ward for me. Okay. All right. Well, let's kick this mock draft off, really, with Fernando Mendoza going number one overall, which puts the Jets up at number two. Marcus, that means you are on the clock here with the Jets in a what we would do mock draft scenario. Cool. So if I have the full freedom to truly do what I would do, I'm going to go with Rubin Bain.

Wow. Number two to the Jets. Let's go, brother. Let's go. Tell the people, Trevor. Let's go. So, you know, in reality, I think there's probably a discussion between Bain and Reese. Reese is going to be the favorite to go here.

I think Reese would be a good pick. I really do. I kind of believe in Reese. Obviously, he's very raw and all that. I think Reese is a very reasonable pick. I like Reese a lot. But Bain, for me, I just, I think he's, he is the type of outlier I'm willing to bet on. I think you got to kind of pick your spots there.

Reminds me a little bit like Harold Fan in last year. I know, Trevor, you were a big Bucky Irving fan. It's like sometimes you just, it's like, I know the short arms are there. I just don't care. Like he has so well crafted his. game around the arm length. I see him come in low. He leverages the six foot two in his in his favor to compensate for the shorter arms. I think guys really struggle to get their hands on him. He's got incredible Ben. We saw that from the clip that came out of his pro day. And he just,

he's able to win with leverage despite the shorter arms. And I think that's going to translate. I see so many different ways that he wins too. It's not just the bull rush, but I think he is one of the best power rushers we've seen in at least five years. But I think this, I'm just giving you all the credit here, Trevor, but I think I got this term from listening to you. You were talking about the speed to counter with Latu-Latu. See, the same thing with Rubin Bain. If he doesn't win right away, he's got four different ways that he's able to break out a different counter,

get to it quickly, understand what the leverage looks like against his blocker and just, you know, defeat it and get to the QB. And the run defense is phenomenal too. So I've got him as like a true blue chip prospect, like any given draft. I think he's a top three player in the draft. And in this draft, especially, I'm pulling the trigger on that for the Jets. Thoughts on that, Connor? I just don't like him as a scheme fit for the Jets as they kind of turn over their front from a

4-3 to a 3-4 with Carl Dunbar. I don't like him. I would never ask him to stand up. And then I think you kind of limit what he's good at by playing as a 3-4 defensive end. Some people don't agree with that. And I have no problem with that. I just like him as a 4-3 end that can bend around the corner, convert speed to power. against tackles.

And I think more of an attacking four three front. When you think of kind of what Salah, D'Amico, the Niners have been this way, just a lot of different fronts like that. I just think with Glenn. And I also think with Bain, like, I think he's going to be a really good NFL player. I don't think he has the upside that Reese or Bailey have. That's just my take on it. Like I could see a world where, number one, I think Reese is a great offball linebacker today.

But I think there's all the tools there to develop into a high. high-end edge player. Bailey, I know, can stand up and get after the quarterback against tackles on an island. So I just question the fit of Bain with how the Jets are going to play. But I understand why people view him as that you guys seem to view him as I would think the best defensive player in this draft. Is that right? I think I'll have Caleb down ahead of him. But I think it's Ruben Bain or Sonny Stiles for me. But I think it probably will be Ruben Bain. And also not to discount anything that Connor said, because I think that everything that you said is completely valid. But I think sometimes when people think about Ruben Bain, they think that he doesn't have the ability to play as like a standup type of a player.

And when you look at him over just this past season, he played over 200 snaps where he was a standup outside linebacker in their scheme. So he has the ability to do it. Now, I think there's a debate of what's the best home for him in the NFL. and do you want him to do that all the time? Yeah, I would not do that in the NFL. I just see a lot of people in the chat like, oh, he can't do this. And I definitely wouldn't say that he can't do it,

even if that's where, if you prefer it a little bit different. I like this, though, because it'll change up how our mocks go. Yes. Like, now the order of players will be much different, in my opinion. That's what happens when you go by what you would do, not what you think will happen.

Yep. Yep. Yeah. So now anything else that you wanted to say there about Bayne Marcus? I was just going to reiterate. Like, yeah, I totally. agree with the scheme point. I do think I think he could play like a base end

kind of like they did with like Zach Paskill or Josh Paskill in Detroit, kind of that four-eye. I actually think Bain could do it in certain packages. Zach Pascall might struggle a lot in that role actually, yeah. A little light on the scale. A little light on scale for that kind of work.

I guess to summarize what I was thinking is you're hoping Aaron Glenn is a good enough coach to make it work with a guy like Grumman Bain who I think can stand up or put his hand in the dirt. And also, I'm just, I don't know if he's going to be the coach by the end of the year anyway. So. Yeah. I would put faith in Dunbar. Dunbar has the resume where it's like, listen, the Jets have more deficiencies than I could tell you about for the next,

you know, how long I've covered them and watched as a fan. But I actually think they finally have an adult that'll have their front in the right place this year. I see a lot of people, I see a lot of people in the chat saying that the mock is ruined. Guys, a mock's not really That's the point of the exercise to do things different. It's the whole point of the collab series. Right. That's the whole point of this series. Like we're not just, that's why we do it.

That's why we have a what we would do mock draft. And to be honest with you guys, I'd make the same pick. I would, I would have also, if Connor and I were doing a what we would do mock draft and I was picking it too, I also would have picked Rubin May Jr. There at number two. Number three, this is where I'm on the clock. I'm so torn here between. Francis Maui Noah and Sonny Stiles because I love the thought of drafting Maui Noah or Spencer Fano, to be honest with you, whichever direction that they want to lean in when it comes to what kind of a run scheme they want to have.

I like the idea of setting themselves up for a right tackle to be able to have Parris Johnson Jr. and Fano or Maui Noah. But neither of those guys are close to where Sonny Stiles is on my board. and I think Sunny Stiles is a special football player. And I like the team building draft strategy of styles here and then getting an offensive tackle either at the top of the second round or getting aggressive from the top of the second round to jump back into the first round because I think that is definitely possible for them as well. So I, if I was making this selection, I would be taking Sonny Stiles here, number three.

All right, Sunny Stiles at three. Yep. Uh, Bain and Stiles go ahead. So four for the Titans is pretty easy for me as much as, it's actually not, it's not that easy in a sense that Jeremiah Love is still there and I think he's perfect for them. But I'm going to take Arvel Reese because I think Arvel playing linebacker early on in this scheme is just insanity in my opinion. What Sala and his history of linebackers and the seaball. ball aspect, fly around, violent hands. And then he does a lot of stuff with his fronts on third

downs where Arbel's going to get to rush the passer when they kind of vary up their fronts to get off the field on third and longs. That's where Arvel kind of gets to pin his ears back and play on the ball. So this is just an ultimate demon for Salas front seven. It's hard to pass on Jeremiah Love, who I think is the best player in the draft. But I didn't think Arvel Reese would be here and I'm going to take him for Sala. Okay. I was going to say I have to go back to the chat because they're, they're yelling at me to let you talk about Sonny Stiles.

So I'm guessing that you also want him on the Jonah Coleman boat to go to Guantanamo Bay is kind of what you're saying here, is what your thoughts of him as a prospect. Yeah, if Guantanamo Bay is like pick nine or ten, sure. But, and I also was going to say, this is why the mock is not ruined with Bain at two because like, okay, just flip style or flip, flip, flip, flip Reese and Bain, like two and four is like very realistic as well. But, um, okay. Yeah, I've become the sunny styles hater guy because I just think top five is a little rich in my mind.

Um, number one, I, like, I saw more issues with the tape than what I was hoping to see just from like run diagnostics. I think the way he takes on blocks, like there's just a lot of development that, that is needed there. Um, I think he kind of, flashes of course, like incredible plays where it's like, boom, stack, shed, peak, and like, that's what you are projecting to get consistently. There's a lot of plays where he's just kind of like launching himself into blocks,

actually like missing playmaking opportunities, like first half against Michigan, for example, there's like three straight plays on the cutup and I'm like, there's a lot of like processing speed and stuff that needs to come along here. So I think it will happen. I guess where I, where I, my hold up on style, is I think everybody is just saying, you know, imagining he's going to be Fred Warner. Because if you take a linebacker in the top five, he better be Fred Warner. Because that's the only linebacker that like legitimately changes the math and the landscape of your defense.

The reality of the linebacker position is it's just really, really hard to do that. On a game to game, play to play basis, he has to hit his upside to be worth the top five pick. That can happen. But then you start to look at the first round bus race. of the position being worse than anywhere else, any other position. It is maybe the hardest position in the league. And it just starts to get harder and harder when, you know, you could just go out and sign a linebacker and free agency

that is maybe a mid-range outcome for Sunny Stiles and draft a receiver who's getting $43 million if they hit and like all this stuff. It's just once we get to like seven, eight, nine, ten, I'm much more comfortable taking a linebacker, but for me it's almost an over-exaggerated version of like running back positional value. I actually look at linebacker is even lower than that. That's just my own philosophy unless he's Fred Warner, right?

So that's kind of a hold up. Yeah. I think that you and I just see Sonny Stiles fundamentally differently. I don't agree or I don't disagree with anything that you said when it comes to the value of the linebacker position. I totally agree with you. It's very tough for it to be worth it here. I think we're in an interesting situation

where to me the class is not as talented as many other draft classes before, which I think opens the door here. I think for most classes, you would talk about Sunny Styles more as like around the top 10, maybe just outside of the top 10. This class is different. I don't think this class has a lot of stars.

Like even like Arville Reese, Connor's a little higher on Arville Reese than I am. I don't know exactly where you are in Arvill, Reese, but like I get worried about him being a full-time edge rusher. I really do. Like I have my concerns there. But when it comes to styles, I think the big difference is even outside of the positional value thing, I don't really see the same concerns that you do, especially knowing that he moved from safety to linebacker and he hasn't been playing true linebacker that long. I think like again, you talk about the Michigan game. The Michigan game was not his best for sure. I go back to that

Indiana game. I mean, the run fit ID that he had in that Indiana game is, I felt like it was almost a masterpiece. How the way, how he played that. And so it's like, I look at that and I'm just not really worried about how he's going to fit in the run. And to me, the only real concerns I have is Ohio State did not ask him to do true like mug looks or Tampa drops or things like that. I don't know if he can't do that or not. Ohio State didn't ask him to do it. They asked him to be much more aggressive, everything towards the line of scrimmage type of a thing.

But with the way he tests in who he is as an athlete, I have faith that he can be a really nice coverage player or somebody that could develop that a little bit later. So I think it's it's, I love having you on the show for this to push back on it a little bit because I think that we both see the value of linebacker similarly. We just view the player different. I think he is more transcendent of what the linebacker position is than you do.

And because of that, I can see where you come from about being more hesitant. But I'm just, I just kind of love who this guy is as a player. Yeah, I think it's totally fair. For me, you know, not to spend 30 minutes on Sunny Stiles. I actually just like Reese better as a linebacker prospect, but I think he has the chance to evolve and do an edge rusher where Stiles is just a really solid to really good linebacker. prospect to me. So it's, it's tricky. I mean, there's a longer debate to be had here. I guess that that's an easy transition, Marcus. I want to know what you think of

Rvel Reese, because I just took him with the fourth overall pick. Sure. I would have taken him with the second or third overall pick. So it's pretty clear where I stand on this guy. But one, how do you project him because that's a big combo around him? And then two, how do you value him? Because I think you get a rap from not liking any player in this class, despite that not being true. I don't think that. I just know people say that to you sometimes. They do. No, I really do like Ravelle Reese. I think everything is there from the power profiled. I think the playmaking instincts are outstanding.

You watch them defend the run from the edge, and I have them as a pure edge for me. And it comes back to the positional value thing. Sure. I want to see if you can be an edge. Like, it's the same reason the Cowboys went that route with Michael Parsons. Like, it's just, I mean, the top edges are getting paid. The Falcons did that with Jalen Walker, to be fair.

Like, they just put him on the line of scrimmages this past year. So yeah. Yeah. I mean, the top edge is making three times what the top linebackers at this point. So I definitely have him on the edge. I think, I think, I mean, if you could put together a 60 play cut up from his season where he's actually playing edge, which that's about what you get from his season, if you chop all his games together, you can really see it. It just, it is that leap of faith. It reminds me a lot of Abdul Carter coming out of his sophomore year. that's kind of where I look at Arvel Reese, where I was pretty confident when I saw that he was going to switch to edge, I was like, that's going to be a top five pick. He's going to be great there, but we hadn't seen it yet.

You just kind of have to take that leap of faith a year earlier with him because he hasn't really played that role. But I do buy into him and definitely like, if I'm drafting, I'm taking him two or three. Like that's kind of where I'm at with him. Sure. So you're up with the Giants, I believe? Right?

Yeah. That's right. Marcus, you're up with the Giants. Okay. These three through five are such hard picks, I think. And the Giants, I guess now that Sunny style is gone, it makes it a little bit easier for me because I always have that internal struggle because I could totally see them taking styles there. But I do gravitate towards the offensive line. They still have a hole at guard, am I wrong? I mean, they signed standing to a one-year deal, but

yeah. Yeah. Long-term. Right. Evan Neal's not taking that job, I don't think, after he came back. Which is wild, wild to me. That's probably where I gravitate towards for them.

I think they brought in enough ancillary playmakers there to justify if you really like a Mauanoa and play them at guard. That feels like it's kind of their type in many ways. the maller in there. And honestly, like,

number one, guards, the idea that you can't take a guard in the top 10, that needs to be thrown out the window with what they're getting paid, what the value of the position is. Five years ago, that might have been criticized. I think the league is very much caught up to basically putting interior alignment

on a very similar plane to tackles. And if we're talking about taking linebackers and running backs and safeties in the top 10, I mean, guard is by far more valuable to a team than those positions. So that doesn't scare me at all if Maui Noah ends up being a guard. But honestly, Andrew Thomas

got to stay healthy, man. But he's been missing time like every year. If you think Maui Noah can be a good backup tackle when you have to move things around, I think he can be that for you. So I think that's going to be my pick. And I think there's enough depth in this wide receiver class

to get a number two to compliment Malik neighbors. If we didn't have that alpha in neighbors, I would maybe try to get that top wide receiver here, but I think we already got that. We can find the ancillary playmaker. I think getting the old line helps going to be harder later on. Yeah, I do agree with that assessment. I think a lot of times now that Illuminaur is back with the Giants,

we just don't think they're going in that direction. But, Connor, I do agree with what he's saying. Like, I think offensive line upgrades should be on the table for the Giants, whether they're actually going to go that direction or not. Yeah. And I would have loved if they got it done as they tried in for agency, but they didn't, they swing and miss. miss on trying to get AVT in there.

Right. You know, it'd be interesting how they view it if they want to wait till the second round or if they feel like they need to do that here. Let's see. Okay, so now we know to the Giants. So I'm up with the Browns. I'm going to take Spencer Fano here. I'm going to get Spencer Fano off the board as back-to-back offensive tackles here

because I understand that the scheme that they're going for, to be more of a power running scheme and Fana was more of a zone blocking offensive lineman, but it's not like I don't think that he can block for power. He can. He was just more effective because he's so athletic with getting out on those mid and outside zone running plays. We know that Todd Munkin has the ability to shift his run game to more power or more zone, depending on the offensive line he has. And let's be completely honest. Sure, they signed Zion Johnson do a good deal, but Zion Johnson hasn't really been a difference maker. They have Tebben Jenkins at the other guard spot, but Tevin Jenkins has been beat up for, unfortunately, a lot of his

career. And then DeWan Jones is their answer right now at left tackle. I could tell you, there's a path to where Spencer Fano could potentially start at multiple spots still on this offensive line. So when Connor and I did the offensive tackle episode, he was both of our top offensive tackles to be had. I think he's very, very versatile as a player. I think he can absolutely be a long-term answer for them at tackle either left or right, even though he played right in college. But I think that Fano is, if you're going to make an offensive line selection, it's Maui Noah

or it's Fano. And to be honest, I like both of those additions more than I like a wide receiver here at this spot at number six. Marcus, you want to jump in on that or you want me to go to seven? No, I think I can go to seven. I think it's a good pick. Yeah. Yep. Seven for me is the easiest pick in the draft. This is Jeremiah Love. Although, I mean,

there is a combo to be had here about David Bailey. But when you go out and spend the money on OA. There's been a lot of money in free agency. I think they can afford to take love in this spot because him and Jaden Daniels is just the potential to be special. I mean special. You're talking about a one-two punch on the ground game and through the air

that is just such a nightmare to match up with for literally any defense. So for the commanders to me, we'll see if love makes it here. but I think he's the best player in the draft. I understand the combo about running back value, but this to me is a three down talent that, you know, Sim said something to me when we did the running backs that kind of, my eyes kind of like widened and then I was like, yeah,

he's like, he could be a thousand and a thousand guy. And when you watch Jeremiah Love, I think that really, it's hard to do because of health in the league, but I think he has the ability to, if healthy across league, playing with Jayden Daniels to be that level of guy. Did Sequin do that? I know McCaffrey did McCaffrey just did

yeah McCaffrey's my pro Cochuan I don't think Seacuan ever did that let me look okay so he's your if he's your pro comp then you can basically pick Jeremiah I love wherever then like if you pick him at four or five or here at seven or whatever

like if you think he's Christian McCaffrey then yeah I think that you can basically pick him wherever especially as a runner I mean McCaffrey was so unique with the receiving chops but I mean I agree with with the point like I think love could be a 1,000

receiver like absolutely even if he gave you like 750 while pop in 1,200 rushing yorkman that's come on that doesn't that doesn't roll off the tongue though what what are the what are the all pro voters supposed to say oh he's in he's a he's a he's in a thousand and seven 50 guys not talk about the voting for awards and stuff in this league don't can't be going if he's not a thousand and a thousand guy he's a bum that's what that's what the voters think no I know what you're saying I think that this makes a lot of sense here Marcus, you're back on the clock with the New Orleans Saints at number eight. What are we doing here?

All right. I think this is going to be Carnell Tate for me. Okay. I think it was a good chance. That happens in the real draft, too, if he made it here. And I'm very, very close with all these, for me, the top three wide receivers, honestly, with Tate, Lemon. And for me, it's Omar Cooper Jr.,

just because I'm scared of injuries with Tyson. and a healthy Tyson is probably wide receiver one. So, you know, all these guys are close-knit. It just comes down to like, when you get to the pick and you need a wide receiver, what do you need in your room? Like what skill set is going to plug in there the best? And I definitely think getting more of that perimeter big-bodied guy here as more of a consistent chain mover, back-shoulder guy for Tyler Shuck.

We've got Olavé with the juice and the playmaking ability. I like some of the kind of intermediate. you know, middle-to-field options they got there with Johnson and Velae had a good year last year. I think Tate as a true X in that offense really rounds out that guy from my guy, Tyler Shuck, here, and we can really see him cook. Yeah, a lot of people on Twitter were making sure that we give you the floor to have your Tyler Shuck moment. Because I believe, wasn't it on our channel? It was on the Colab Mockdraft series where you took him early.

and we freaked out about it. And you were like, look, man, I think he's really, really good. And that was your bullying. That was your bullying moment from last year. You bullied me out the gate on this one on Jonah Coleman. But we went into this early second round last year. And I think it was the Browns at the 33rd pick. And I said, I would take Tyler Shuck there.

And you guys tried to take the pick away from me. I was like, no, that's my pick. Screw you guys. Lock it in. You know what? You know what? Good for you. Stand your ground against bullies.

I like it. I like it. Yeah. Absolutely. I'm on the clock here at number nine. The chat has already penciled in David Bailey for this at number nine, but I am taking Caleb Downs. I think Caleb Downs is a better football player than David Bailey is.

Now, when you look at the Chief's defense right now, they don't have a player like Bailey. Like they don't have this sort of an edge rusher. They have George Carloftus. They have Ashen Gelotti. have Felix, Anudike Uzama. They just, they don't have, they don't have this like smaller edge rusher. So if that isn't, if that is where they are comfortable going, like, if they really want

that, that speed element as an edge rusher, they can. But Bailey just has never, like, he's not really a Steve Spagnolo type of defensive lineman. Again, he could play, maybe they come up with a different role because of how twitchy he is and how he can get off the ball and all that kinds of stuff. but that just hasn't really been what Spags has been all about. And then on the flip side, the versatility of Caleb Downs, Marcus, I'd love to hear what you think about Caleb Downs. But we've said this before on the show, like I see him as an Antoine Winfield Jr. type.

Like, I think you can do it all with him. I think he's a free safety. I think he's a strong safety. I think he's a change the defense type of a player for you. So I have Caleb Downs significantly higher on my big board than where David Bailey is. So I would take Caleb Downs here. Yeah, you asked earlier who's the best defensive player in the draft for us. And I have the same grade on downs as I do on Rubin Bain.

Just the positional value would give the nod towards Bain obviously there. But I'm right in line with kind of the consensus on him, like super special player. It's really hard to find a guy that is so advanced at taking away those intermediate throws as he is. Like, I think I said this in my first mock draft. I said it's harder to get a player that jumps on those routes than position coaches would like to admit. Like he just is ready to come in and take away the part of the field that all these offenses are trying to attack. And I love the way he rounds out the chief secondary, by the way, because I think that cornerback room, despite losing those two pieces, I think they can survive. Like Noel Williams showed some good stuff.

They still have Fulton. They brought in Coho from the Dolphins. They have that big gaping hole in that other safety room. And Spags loves a guy that can just do everything for them. So I haven't seen this yet, but I love that as a fit. So this puts me in a kind of an interesting spot for the Bengals because obviously I would have taken downs. That would have been pretty easy.

We couldn't give you another layup. We gave you one and seven. We couldn't give you another one. But the good thing is this is what we're doing. Because I don't think the Bengals would do this with the resources they've dumped into this position. and the kind of player they typically play at this position. But I'm going to take David Bailey here because,

oh, sitting here and just going like, yeah, Miles Murphy will be great this year. Or Shamar Stewart will have a total 180 from his rookie season. No, let's get crazy off the edge of Boy A. Maffe and David Bailey and get after the quarterback. And not act like the NFL. Everybody just plays two edge rushers. Like multiple guys are going to play.

But this is a little BPA. If we were doing trades in this mock draft, it would have been interesting to get out of this pick and get the Bengals more capital because a lot of guys I like for them went off the board. Considered Mansour Delane, like Delane, I like Bailey a little bit better.

But yeah, just the talent to get out to the quarterback in the spy. Him and Boye-Mafé in that division where you really got to be ripping off the edge, I think would do them wonders. Thoughts on Bailey, Marcus. This is the range I like David Bailey in the 10 to 14 range. If he went in the top four, we'd have more of a conversation about it.

But this is right around where I have them. I have some concerns about the, let's just say how impressed I was by a lot of his sacks and stuff. I think it's a lot of the get off and the speed, which is great. I think it will play. It's a lot of bad tackles and a lot of quarterbacks that aren't stepping up. I don't think he's as bendy as I wanted to see from him. And I just, I want to see him use that inside spin move and use those inside counters so much more. because I know they're in there,

but I just want to see him get better with that, that kind of pass rush plan, set and moves up as the game goes on. Like, I think there's a lot more to be unlocked there. I think the run defense is like fine, probably over-criticized, but I don't usually agree with it. So I'm perfectly fine with this pick here.

Yeah. Before we get your pick for the Miami Dolphins, which blank canvas, my friend, go ahead and just be Picasso, whoever you want to pick here for the Miami Dolphins. Before we do that, though, We are on the campaign to 75K subscribers before we get to the draft at the end of April. And if you guys are not subscribed to the show, we would love for you to be.

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match or something to determine which one of you gets to keep the original silver plaque. I mean you can order the backup silver plaque but at the original one is like that's like gold. Like you guys got to have some kind of fight over that. What happens after it? Is there a plaque after that or no? Well yeah, there's the million is

a mill. A million is gold. So Trevor you get the silver one and when we get to gold, I'll take that. Okay, fine. You know what brother? You know what brother? Deal. In fact, you know what the plaque's going to be used for, Marcus? It's going to be used for a hell and a cell Thursday. We're going to use it like an iron chair and somebody's going to bust it over somebody's head as the crowd goes crazy.

I don't know if you listened to that episode, but there was an episode where I walked into a bar in Tampa one time. And it was just a random Thursday night. And there was just a there was a wrestling ring like right in the middle of this big bar. And they were having just a just a hardcore wrestling. match on a random Thursday. And we were talking about how funny it would be if there was like an Airbnb above the bar or whatever and you're just listening to all this

going on. So that's where the hell in a cell Thursday joke comes from. Wow. That's dangerous. There's no, there's no, there's no, there's no, there's no, no, no, no. It's, did you sign the waiver? Okay, he's good. Go ahead. Hardcore titles on the line. Get in there. Yeah.

Wow. All right, Dolphins at 11. You gave me plenty of time to think about it, so this better be a good pick. Okay, I finished his Eval today, and I know it's crazy to say that because he's not some small name player, but Mansour Delane, I'm going to take him here

to the Dolphins at 11. No-brainer, Marcus. Self-explanatory that he is a need for them, but I will say this. Really like what I saw. I think he'll have, he'll probably be like a-thish on my big board, like at the end of the day,

just really solid cornerback prospect. Moves well, great zone eyes. You can definitely play man. Great feet. Like just great balance. And to turn and run, he can, he doesn't have the length to press necessarily

and like have those disruptive stabs. But he just, he matches footwork so well off the line. Like I think you can, you can do press, off zone, you name it. Can even play in the slot if need be.

Really nice player. I'm with you. I thought this, this was just a no-brainer spot for him. They've really needed that top flight corner. When you can play man at the level he does, that's how you get drafted this early at the cornerback position. And, you know, he just thrived this year.

He's always been a good prospect, but transferring to LSU blossomed him into a great corner prospect. Yeah. He's awesome. And obviously, this is a part of their depth chart where they really need help. I wonder if Hathley is just going to basically like go O-line or D-line, no matter what, but this is a really talented player who makes sense for a secondary where he

will immediately be the best player when he has drafted. It will be interesting because Halfley, sometimes coaches will like do the opposite of what hurt them the year before or they'll just stick with what they know. They didn't really value corner with Halfley in Green Bay or maybe he'll come in and be like, I don't want to go through that again. Give me a good corner. Yeah, you know, so it'll either ignore it or. or no one you're looking for it.

I am up here with the Dallas Cowboys at 12. I take Dylan Thineman. I would take Dylan Thinemann here at 12. I don't know if that's a good ooh or a bad ooh, but I'm going to ask you about it in a second. I think Thineman's awesome. I love the tape. I love the range.

He's not the strongest safety in the world. He's a little bit smaller. You don't want in man coverage or around the linebacker level too often, but man, you let this guy play in space. I think he's a ballhawk for you. I think he could come down and fit the run from depth very consistently, which a lot of safeties don't have the ability to do. He played true single high coverage when he was at Purdue.

And I think he is a game changer in Dallas is secondary. I think he is the type of safety presence that they've really needed. So thin him into the Dallas Cowboys here at number 12. It was a good. It was a good. Okay. Yeah. I echo your thoughts.

Okay. Wasn't a devastation, ooh? Yeah. I originally thought I had the vines at 18. Yeah. And I was like, I and him for the Vikes, but I don't even have the Vikes at 18. I can't remember the last mock draft that we did where he made it to 18, Connor. After the combine.

No, those days are long gone. Yeah. Yeah, they're long gone. So 13 for the Rams. This will draw mixed reviews and it's fine. And Marcus, you already kind of summed up the debate over it. I don't usually take gambles like this, but this is my favorite receiver in the draft. and I just have to get over that he's been hurt,

but he's also produced a lot over the last two years. Everybody, every time they talk about Jordan Tyson's injuries, he's almost had 2,000 yards the last two years, so he had to play some football. Like at some point, I do think the pendulum swings too far the other way where, yes, his injuries are concerning. They're concerning enough that he has no business being here at 13 if he was never hurt.

But he has been hurt. So that's why he's here. I think he's the better fit for the Rams than Mackay Lemon. I know a lot of people like that one. McVeigh likes to move his receiving. He doesn't want just somebody, hey, you play the slot today and every day and every snap. That's not what he always looks for. Devante Adams, speaking, I've missed a lot of time.

Misses a lot of time right now. And I think Tyson's separation and acrobatic body control with Stafford would be some. I don't, assuming he could stay healthy, and I know it's an assumption, I don't know how you would defend 11 personnel of him, Devante, and Puka. I don't know how you would do it. I think it's worth the gamble for a team that wants to win a Super Bowl. Yeah. Totally fair.

I think he fits. There's a lot of Devante in there with him, for sure. So you're up with the Ravens now, Marcus, number 14. All right. I'm going to go with Vega Juanay. Nice, nice. Yeah. An old classic.

You know, this is. That's old cozy. This is a classic pepperoni. pizza when you're really just wanting something that you know is going to hit the spot. This is the pick here. Yeah, pretty self-explanatory. You can just, you can just picture it pretty easily. That guard play, you don't have to convince Ravens fans of this one.

I'll say that. That guard play was, you know, dehabilitating for them a large part of their season. So pretty easy sell. Really nice player. Yeah. By the way, we had Broshmo in the chat a little bit earlier. He gave us a $20 super chat. Shout out to Brochmo.

Broch. The legendary. cornerback room of Mansour Delane, Darrell Baker Jr., Storm Duck, and the rest of the island of Broken Toys there in Miami. Well, I think he's saying that, hey, Delane would be the best. Delane's the first name that he mentioned there in the legendary CB room. Delane walks into that room and goes, this is the worst secondary room I've been in since I was in high school.

his Virginia Tech and LSU secondaries are probably more talented. Think about it. He had Dorian Strong. He had Dorian Strong and he had AJ Halsey last year. Yeah. Hey, can we not, well, can we not disrespect Gator Great Jason Marshall Jr? Who had a really solid year in the nickel, all right? Really solid season.

You know, Trevor and five other people paying attention to that. You've got to hand it to the man. This is a man that does a lot. of NFL streams for PFF. That is very true. I do do a lot. By the way, The Punder Taker gave us a $100 super chat.

Oh, wow. The red Chimmy Churry is the Safeway of flavors. I'll let you decide whether that's good or bad. Well, Punder Taker, based on every interaction that we've had over the last two weeks with Safeway, I'm going to go ahead and pencil that in for you not enjoying it. It's fine. It's fine. It's quote, quote, Wedding Crashers.

More for me and you. Trevor's serious. Selensi did give us a $100 super chat a little bit earlier. I did see this one. Selancy said, Bengals fan that has lost a little bit of hope that I didn't know I had here. That's good. I am here to say it's about damn time.

I think, I don't know if they're talking about losing hope it's about damn time or Marcus being back on the channel. It's about damn time. I'll hope that it's for the latter. He said, I do want to ask, a year ago I made a comment on the PFF show for receivers busting when, pause,

when they line up on, one side on over 85% of their snaps. And I think the second part of the question, because there was another chat, yeah, here we go. Who in this class has more than 85% of their receiving snaps on one side of the field and who will join the illustrious list of bust aside from Josh Reynolds, Drake London, and DJ Moore?

So I saw this a little bit earlier. And I want to answer this question, but I don't know. I would have to go into PFF Ultimate. and sort things out to get the answer of some of the top prospects that have only played on one side of the field. But I am not sure off the top of my head if there are any of these notable receivers that only play it on one side of the other.

I got to look it up. I think I have one, but I need to double check right now because when I was going, I want to make sure it's right before I just, and then I'll say it anyway. Just nuke their reputation. When I was going through charting, I got one.

one for you. Oh, this is, this is as good as I could have. I'm actually like blown away by it. Yes. Is it Chris Brasel? It is Chris Brasel. Oh, that would have been. Yeah, that would have been. Chris Brasel, listen to this guys. Yeah. Has played over the last two years at Tennessee, 1,196 snaps at wide receiver. Takes out his, he doesn't have a lot of slot snaps. It takes out the 49 slot snaps he has. Okay. How, so the majority side's the. right side. How many snaps out of the 1,196 do you think he has played on the left side the last two years? If you tell me he's played over a thousand snaps on the right. One each year.

One each year. He just gets his one, just jogs over to that side once a year and goes, did it? That's what Ultimate's telling me. Now, I'm looking it up immediately because I'm immediately what's the situation? The only thing I filtered out was no play, which just takes away obviously the penalties that kill a play. So maybe he has like a couple on penalties, but yes. I want to ship the offense to Guatemala. I want to ship the Josh Hyple offense to Guatemala. Wait, Guatemala or Guantanamo Bay?

Or both. We'll send this one to Guatemala. We'll distribute the exports. I want to see what the play was. Okay, one. All right, all right, hold on. I'm pulling up the one from 2014. 2020.

It is simply, okay, so on this one, this is great because it's a visual medium and I know we can't show plays. I'm sorry. They're running stacked to the left side of the line of scrimmage and they're running a nub formation to the right. So they basically want a tight end attached to the right side and nothing else to the right. What did they do here? Oh, they ran the ball. Okay, all right. We obviously knew that that was going to happen there.

And then what happened this past year? Is it a similar situation? No, they're just, this is, this is dumb. I have no idea why he would even align on the left side, but that is, that is hilarious that you found that with Chris Brasel. I notice it from his charts of catch, targets and catches by depth. Yeah. And one side had most of them.

And I'm like, he never gets targets on the other side of the field. And then when you go to the player position, he lines up there once a year. Once a year. So Finns in the chat said, does he only turn one way? NASCAR. I actually might call Chris Brasel NASCAR from now on. I actually I actually that might that might that he's fast. Of all my god, insanely fast. And that could be the disguise where we just go oh yeah we call NASCAR because he's fast and the reality we're like it's because he can only turn one direction. You could only turn left. That's amazing. That's actually great. Go off chat. All right,

where are we? Oh, I think we're with the bucks. Chris Sims. List came out to that. That was fun. Wide receiver three for Sims. But I mean... For Brazel? Yeah, Sims loved BTJ and like that's... Yeah, that's his type of... Yeah. I saw you.

I had Brazell, I think, wide receiver seven when it was all said and done. I need to look. Let's see. Yes, seven. Yeah, and that was before the... Yeah, I mean, he's just a sick athlete. If you watch the Georgia game, you'd be like... You'd be like, top 20 player.

No, no question. Is this Randy Moss? No, I mean, you, it's not quite, but you brought up Brian Thomas Jr. If you watch the Georgia game for Brazel, you go, Brian Thomas Jr. Like again, there we go. There he is. Take him in the first round. But then he doesn't exactly replicate that.

The whole rest of the way through the season, which goes into a scouting report. Anyways, shout out NASCAR. The buck's up on the clock at number 15. This is me. Love it when a plan comes together. You really do. I don't know why I'm wasting everybody's time. A key messador at 15.

Let's go. Yeah, this is, everybody knows. This is my edge too in the draft. The Buccaneers have an edge rusher need like something serious. He's not going to be it for every single team in the first round because of his age, but he is a ready-made pass rusher who is ready to play right away. And to be honest with you, on a year where the Buccaneers chose Todd Bowles over keeping Mike Evans and other things. I think they basically have to win this upcoming year

or they're like a lot of that house is getting it cleaned. So they are going to be in a situation where they need to win now anyways. Messdor is the best edge rusher for them immediately from day one. So A key mess door, Buccaneers 15. All right. It's back to me with the Jets. Look how that worked out. We definitely planned this.

So you had them take Ruben Bain at 2. Yes, he did. Yes, he did. Marcus, I'm very curious what you're going to think of this. And it's close. It's close. I'm going to have them go Omar Cooper here. Nice.

So Tate's gone. Tyson's gone. Cooper is my wide receiver three. They are a team that you could take a lemon because they don't have a written in in ink slot receiver. Like Gary Wilson can play outside. Adonite Mitchell obviously plays out. outside. But we'll see what Frank Reich wants to do, how he moves guys around and everything. But I actually value Cooper's yard after catchability, body control, and speed a little more for

the Jets here than taking Lemon. And it might be slightly controversial. So I'm curious what you think of that. I think it's slightly controversial. I would go Lemon, but I still love the pick. Like, I huge fan of Cooper for the same reasons you said, agreed, like you get a little more rack there where you already kind of have your one in Garrett Wilson. So that's great. You get a little, you know, I don't think Lemon can't run block, but I think you're going to get a little bit more there with Cooper too. So I definitely don't think it's crazy. Like I said, I have these guys extremely tight. I prefer Lemon there. I just think a little bit better overall, getting down the field, making big, big plays for your offense. But yeah, I'd be happy as a Jets fan. I know you're a

big Omar Cooper Jr. guy, I, I guess I'm surprised that he's like close with Lemon. I thought you were, I thought you were Omar Cooper Jr. like, like obsessed at this point. And I guess maybe you still are, but not to the detriment of Mackay Lemon, it sounds. Well, I'm also just really high on Lemon. Oh, great. I just, I love this wide receiver class overall. I would say I was really high on lemon about consensus with all the other guys and then really liked Omar Cooper. So it goes, Lemon 1, Cooper 2, Tate 3, Tyson 4 is my order. So you're up now with the Detroit Lions at number 17, which the lions over the last couple of years, you know this is a Packers guy.

I've been one of the better rosters in the NFL. They've had Super Bowl aspirations, but now all of a sudden they go into this draft. And after free agency, I think they've got a massive hole at offensive tackle and a massive hole at edge rusher. So thoughts on those positions and then obviously make it a call here at 17. Marcus, I got to ask you first, are you a Detroit guy or are you like Trevor a Detroit guy? I'm a Detroit guy. Trevor likes to say Detroit.

Detroit. Do I really? Yeah, you do. This is something I've noticed the last month and I never noticed the last four years or however long we've done millions of mock drafts. It might be new for you. Like you might have developed this. I think this is more of just a, I say these team names so much that I try to start. I like that.

So I don't go insane because you asking that question, if you ask me to say Detroit, I'd say Detroit. Like I just, I would say it like that. It's when you're teeing it up, I see it. You're like, all right, the Detroit lines are on the clock at 17. You also got to understand, like, I'm a simple man and the hamster wheel is turning as fast as humanly possible in my brain. So I kind of have to give myself a second to, you know, all right, we've got the

Detroit Lions Christian in the chat says I've noticed for years. Did I say it like that? I guess so. I've never noticed and I've been doing countless shows with you. Hey shout out Christian who's been watching the show for years by the way. Shout to Christian for that. I picked up on that.

All right. Detroit Lions. There it is. Own it. Yeah, I got to do it. I would love it if I like Akeemezador would have been such a fun pick here if you didn't just take him two picks ago. Find a new pick.

Yeah, tough for you. Yeah. He's already in the boat. They don't really need interior as much. So the D-line pick gets a lot harder for me if Mezzador is gone. If I had to go with an edge, which I don't think I'm going to go that way just because I think there's better players available. It's probably Cassius Howl for me, which I don't hate that fit just to kind of call that out, like, just to get someone that could give you more juice opposite of Aden. And they'll figure it out in terms of finding, you know, bigger bodies for earlier downs.

and I don't think Howell's horrible against the run. He just can't really anchor. But I don't think that's the route I'm going to go. I think, I mean, obviously, offensive tackle's been a big conversation for them. Chat's saying Freeling with Freeling available. Yeah, I think that's got to be the pick. I was going to say, I don't know how you feel about Freeling, but.

Honestly, if this is true what we would do, I have, I guess, I guess I do have a higher grade on Freeling than Blake Miller. I really like Blake Miller. I just want to say that. I think Blake Miller is better now. We were so close. We were so close.

Dangerously close. Just absolute jubilation. I love it. Were we about to fight on somebody? No, no, no, no, no. I have been a Blake Miller fan for the last three years, and I feel like for the last two years have been like, okay, guess the lead just thinks he's ass because nobody,

nobody said anything about anything about it. for years. Well, good. We see that similarly. Honestly, you know what? I'll do it because I think Blake Miller is much more pro-ready. I do. I think Freeling has the better traits, better athleticism.

I think for a taller guy, he anchors better than like Blake Miller does. But I saw with Freeling a lot of times just like awareness mistakes, whether it was splits pickup or run game. It's just like, why didn't you block that? guy that just crossed your face that was clearly your assignment. And just little like technical glitches with his hands and his feet. It's just like he'll get there, I think, but he's more risky. I don't have those same concerns with Blake Miller. I think Blake Miller just needs to add a little bit more weight, but really good tape. And Detroit wants to win right now. So I think this is a long-term

pick, but also just like, I don't think you're going to go through some of those learning moments at left tackle, assuming you have those conversations with Miller and it's like, hey, are you cool with playing left, you know, assuming that clears, I think I'll go Blake Miller here. Well, there's also talk of Sewell moving from right to left, right? So, I mean, it's kind of whichever side of the conversation that you want to have there. I love Blake Miller, like you mentioned, 54 starts for him at Clemson. I mean, he is ready to kind of play right away and at least get his taste of what the NFL is like.

I think he's ready for it. I agree. He still needs to get stronger, which has been his main concern over the last couple of years. But I do think he has gotten stronger every single year to the point where I think he's good prospect now. And what a better place to get him fired up in the wait room. That's very true. Then his own head coach out benching him every morning. Three, three giant black coffees. Yeah, yeah. Quatt espresso topped off with black coffee.

Okay. The Minnesota Vikings here at 18. Nicky Manwari is still on the board. Damn, Connor, you didn't, you didn't catch it? I was drinking my coffee. I was telling you, it is now warped into my brain. Like our hive mind, it's becoming a problem for me. I did that one on purpose. But I didn't even cry. I was like,

I thought you literally, I just knew right away. I'm like McNeil Warren. Like, this is going to be an issue. It's a real issue. I think that this is the, the McNeil Warren spot. I have Germad McCoy

ranked higher than McNeil Warren. and they could go this direction. But I like, I like the same to add, I'm just curious. I feel like there's a pick that I will comment on after the fact that I feel like, good strategy. But I don't want to shift your opinion.

I also don't mind lemon here because I don't know how much longer Jordan Addison's going to be on the Vikings. Tight end is interesting for, them, but I kind of like tight end a little bit more on day two. And I'm a little bit lower on Sadiq. Avionteu's also a really good fit for Flores. You know what?

It's a good safety class. I'm going to go with Jermon McCoy. I'm going to go with Jermont McCoy, the corner from Tennessee, who I think gives them the ability to play true one-on-one coverage in a way where I feel like Flores hasn't had that opportunity before. So you can get really aggressive with it. And I think that he could play off coverage the way that, you know, Flores wants you to play off.

If he feels like, hey, this is something he'd lean into. I think you go McCoy, who I have ranked higher than Avion Terrell, who I also think would be a really good scheme fit for them. But McCoy, to me, is a top 10 player for me, as long as you can check the injury box for him. So I know the Vikings do have other needs, but the draft is more than one round, and I like getting the talent here in McCoy,

so I'll take McCoy at 18. All right, Panthers. Hold on. Wait, wait, wait, wait, wait. I was singing lemon. I think it would be lemon for them. Oh, I forgot. Yeah. Okay.

Yeah. I thought about it. I really don't think Addison, even if he plays out the year, I just don't think he's long for that team. I think they're getting kind of tired of his antics. And I also don't think they're going to pay him and Jefferson and all these guys. So I think with the contract value on top of all that, and Lemon just would be such a perfect compliment to Jefferson. Yeah. Yeah, he would be.

But if the main reason I said that is it sounds like I have a grade on Lemon that compares to what you have on McCoy. Do you have the limit in your top 10? Yeah, I do. He's my number one wide receiver. Yeah. Let's go, baby. My man.

I have him top 15. I don't know where I'm going to be, like when it's all said and done, but I do obviously like Mikhail Lemon a lot. But I have Germant McCoy like right now. He's eight, nine, something like that for me. So, Connor, you're up. Panthers are 19.

Well, speaking of them, this is McCoy Lemon's landing spot. There it is. of the Panthers at 19. Play him in the slot. Give Bryce that kind of go-to target on top of having a totally different wide receiver in T-Mac on the outside that can kind of. Lemmon obviously in college won jump balls in contested situations, but, you know, that

rate will go down at the NFL level. But he'll work into areas over the middle that just not a lot of guys are. He's so tough. And he's got great hands. He's reliable as well. So I think they just, they're good pairing together. Somebody said in the chat, let's pound. That's it.

Mark, the Coke heads also don't love this. No, I know. Yeah. Coker's a good number three. What's wrong with that? I have absolutely implemented the pounders into my, my channel, by the way. The powders are, they have a lot of character.

Caroline is a top tier fan base when it comes to passion for their team. There is no doubt about it. At one point, Marcus, we drafted. Caden MacDonald from Ohio State to Carolina so much that the chat just renamed him Caden McPounder. Like that was the rest of the time. Like even when we would give him, like we would draft him to the bills. And the chat would be like, oh, I think it's a good fit for McPounder here. And it's like we're talking about not even getting giving him to Carolina.

That's like the off the menu McDonald's item. Like, hey, can I get the McPounder? The kid, it's right. McCounder. Yeah. Yeah. I love it. I absolutely love it.

Marcus. Back up with the doubt. Cowboys and I took Dylan Thinemann for them at number 12. Yeah. All right. We're going to go with a pound the table my guy here. Talk about pounding. Jacob Rodriguez.

To the Cowboys, number 20. I think he's going to finish as a top 20 player in this draft for me. I think the playmaking at the position, I thought he was a good athlete on tape and everyone was like, oh, he's not that good of an athlete. And then he had great combat. I'm like, I don't know.

I kind of feel like I saw the sideline to sideline speed. not like freaky traits or anything, but more than good enough. I see a lot of like Drey Greenlaw in there. I think he's not going to like dominate the run. But good enough. Good enough negotiating blocks. Misses a few tackles. But I just, the like, how he goes for the football, I do think plays a lot.

Like that was like Darius Williams whole thing, Darius Leonard, sorry. The linebacker for the Colts, Shaq Leonard. It was like the first year of his career happening, he had all these forced fumbles, and I was like, eh, you can't keep that up. And then he just kept doing it year after year after year. When you really focus on that as a part of your game, like going for those punchouts, it's going to keep up. And I think you're going to get some of those game-changing plays on top of all the good stuff he does.

So I'm a big fan of Jacob Rodriguez. And he's the rare, like, play now linebacker. Like so many of these first round guys are raw. They take years and years. I think he's going to be a good rookie linebacker. So I think Jacob Rodriguez is a hell of a football player, man. We've started to sneak him into some potential back end of the first round mocks. But I will say, Connor, this is the highest we've ever had him go in a mock here on this channel at number 20 to Dallas,

who desperately, desperately desperately desperately needs a starting middle linebacker. But this is the highest that we have had Jacob Rodriguez go. Yeah, it is. You know, it's a little rich for my blood, but they need a linebacker pretty badly. So I don't think it's... Where do you have them got? In any way. Let me take a look right now.

If he was on the last top 50, I did. I think I have him in the 30s. I had him 42nd, Marcus, on the last top 50 I did. But I mean, like, there's a lot of feel good about taking him. That's the thing. It's just a matter of how much of a difference does it make for a football team. Yeah. And the good thing for him is he did create a lot of turnovers this year.

if he can, he's never going to be able to replicate that because the numbers were so ridiculous. But if he can be a turnover creator, then he carries a value at offball linebacker that is a little different. I think a part that plays in is the how I view him as a high floor like ready to go linebacker because the main thing with linebacker is like, you just can't be ass. You can't be bottom three or four in the league at linebacker. There's a poll quote. You just can't be ass. just be in that, you know, 27 to 15 range and your defense can survive. Just don't be ass. But you know what I'm saying?

Like I think he immediately raises the floor, whereas, you know, maybe some other options, not necessarily in this draft, but like a lot of the average first round linebacker prospects are your, your Quay walkers and your, all the linebacker that the commanders took like three years ago from Kentucky, Oh, James. Jamie Davis. Bad pick. Yeah.

Yeah. Like, I don't view him like that. I view them closer to like a Jack Campbell type where it's like he's going to step in and give you a high floor right away. So. All right. Steelers are 21. This is me.

Nobody wants Ty Simpson. I get it. I get it. Monroe Freeling is very interesting with him being the offensive lineman who's on the board here because funny enough it's the same school. I didn't even think about that. But like it's sort of the Broderick Jones discussion again where this is a really good athlete built the way you want an NFL offensive tackle to be built.

But the anticipation, the balance, the floor is maybe lower than what you want. And Jones right now is struggling because he hasn't really picked that up yet, despite that being as good of an athlete as he is. So that's not to say, not to say that like, just because the descriptions are similar, that means Monroe Freeling isn't going to pick it up and he's not going to be a good pick for the Steelers. But I think it is worth talking about that they're sort of coming from the same starting point of what the Steelers are just sort of getting over here. I don't think I would, I'm going to go with Freeling. Can I see that, yeah, can I see the regular board, Tyler?

I want to look at Pittsburgh's depth chart too. They made the Michael Pittman Jr. trade. They have Fryer Muth and Darnell, Washington, who honestly, just throw a couple of extra pounds on Darnell Washington at this point and let him play left tackle if it doesn't work out for Project Jones. It's all there for them. They signed Jamel Dean. It's a tough one.

Man, they are kind of tough. And did you say it already? Is Ty Simpson not? No, I mean, like, I would, I do think about Ty Simpson here. Like, I feel like Ty Simpson should be considered as like a back end of the first round, early part of the second round type of a quarterback. We've done plenty of mock drafts where that's been the case. Connor, do you think about anything else other than an offensive tackle here or Marcus,

like, outside of offensive tackle, now that they've addressed wide receiver, I think I'm leaning Simpson in this situation. Oh, boy, he's going to do it. I think, I think he's, a worthwhile investment. Like I think that I think that Simpson can start in the NFL. I really do think that he's got starting NFL quarterback type of trades. I don't really know what other direction the Steelers would go here outside of.

It's not easy. Who's the best player available? I feel like I always draft wide receiver for them. And even then they went and got Pittman, so it's not as big of a need. I think, yeah, when you look at the way the board has played out, it's pretty easy to talk yourself into it if it sounds like we're pretty much eye for an eye like i have the same i have them right where i had like jackson dart last year right right yeah whatever i'm gonna take simpson boo me boomie boom if you want tell them they still watch until until Aaron rogers comes

back i'm gonna take tie simpson here for the steelers conno here up at 22 all right 22 the chargers tricky right because we had I mean not shocking but Spencer Fano and Maui Noah and Vanga Yawane went early and they'd all deserve to really good players I would love that the chat is going wild

no I see him I see the booze I see the booze I see the booze I'm playing the heel right now go ahead come on come on I just roundhouse kicked the champion when he wasn't looking I just I just threw a below the belt move to you guys here Full Pete Weber. Go ahead.

I like it. Yeah, I did go full P. Weber. You're usually the baby face on the show. I know. Marcus, I'm usually the heel. So it's nice when he has his turn of instigating the crowd and irritating them. Which he clearly did. They have not stopped.

They have not stopped. They have not stopped. He's engagement farming. So the Chargers, I mean, they got it. I can't stare at the. this roster with Trevor Penning and Cole Strange at guard. But not great. It's not great.

It's Mike McDaniel's offense. So the guy I think would be the best pickier for guard doesn't fit schematically. And that's Caden Proctor. Like I'm not putting Cain Proctor in the scheme. That's a no-go. Yep. I'm not taking Freeling, obviously, because he's a tackle and arguably a developmental tackle. I've seen a lot of freeling in the chat for the.

chargers. I don't understand that. Like, are you kicking Rishan Slater inside? One of the best left tackles in football? No. I'm not taking freeling here. So then it comes down to, guys, like, you're kind of in reach territory for Bessontas and Pregnon.

Right. If you're going online. If you're going online. So I just wanted to get all that clear in case I don't take a guard. Yeah, you're pulling me. I'm absolutely laying the ground floor of do not own me online. Do not, do not clip this? Get the booze ready. I didn't even exist. I didn't even want to do this.

This whole podcast was not my idea. Not my idea. I didn't even plan on hosting this show. And four years later. My agent signed me up years ago. I didn't know what I was getting into. I had to check a box. Oh boy. Yeah, this is scary hours right here. There's no way around it. It's tough because either, and I want to hear Marcus's thoughts here,

because you either kind of reach, if you want to hit their immediate needs, you either reach for offensive line, or potentially you reach for interior defensive line, which Marcus, I don't know how you feel about this class, but I was very disappointed at this interior defensive line class once I actually got to the final evals of a lot of these guys. I think, hey, around, you know, the 40s, 50s, 60s, like, that's totally fine

but I think that the thought process of drafting a lot of these guys in the first round, you're really hoping that they pan out in a way where we haven't quite seen yet. Screw it. The chat helps to me. I'm going to do it.

I'm picturing Canyon Sadiq in Mike McDaniel's Jono Smith, Darren Waller. And I know they signed Charlie Kohler to block. That's why they signed Charlie Kohler. I know they like Karande Gadsden. They do.

But Sadiq is going to be a weapon in a lot of different alignments. He used in the backfield, the slot, H-back kind of player, tight end. His athleticism and attitude as a blocker on the move in this scheme specifically is kind of a dream. So with not wanting to reach on a guard and that'd be a round two conversation, let's have some fun and take somebody that is just an out of this world athlete. like Sadiq. Marcus thoughts?

It hurts me a little bit as a Gadsden truther, but he's a better receiver than Gadsden probably, and the blocking's a good point. And definitely with the lead blocking within that McDonald offense, I think you sold me into it a little bit. For sure. EB Games goes I just bolted all over my screen. That is freaking hilarious.

bolted. Oh man, sometimes we have the maturity of eight-year-olds. I can't hold it in. You guys are insane. Did you see that Pittsburgh, like all the elementary schools

and high schools are going to be out of session during the draft? The draft stream is going to be like the maturity level is going to go down to like four years on average. It's going to be wild this year. It's just going to be maxing and jails. Gestering and six-sevenths just flooding every single chat possible.

Yes. The chat is ruined. I'm glad I don't have to pick for a while. I need an intermission. Oh, no, you're going to make me bold. Marcus, hide your face. You don't want to get clipped on this show. Yeah, you don't deserve this.

I didn't want to be here. No. I didn't agree to do this. He didn't know how to say no. Like, oh, God, I did it last year, I guess. All right, Eagles, I'm sweating. This is me, right? This is you, yeah.

Yes. I'm going to go Monroe Freeling here. That's a good spot for him to develop. Even without, oh, my gosh, O-Line coach, drawing a blank here. Cool. What are we talking about? The Eagles, Offensive blank coach. Jeff Stoutland?

Jeff Stoutland. Yeah, Stought and you. Yeah, even without Stalling, you there. I'm going to go Monroe Freeling. I don't know how long you can count on Lane Johnson being a part of this team. Yeah, is a good pick. And I'm totally, I mean, this is what the Eagles do, obviously, but I'm totally game

with the idea of Freeling, like taking some time before you throw them out there to the wolves, having a mentor like Lane Johnson. It's a great fit. All right. Look, I agree with you. I think that any time we get to the Eagles, if there's a viable offensive line option, what are you laughing at? I got to stop reading the chat.

You can't. You can't. You can't get it. I'm turning off. I can't function. seven picks left so close who did who did we take for the who did i take for the i gave them fauno right yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah so now i do look at wide receiver for them this is worst case for the browns where you go tackle and still miss out on all the top four wide receivers at

23 that's brutal yeah but i don't hate these next two guys right it depends so you think of boston and conception i like i like i like see a drop off. I do. I still like them in this range, but for me it's like I take a tackle. I'm hoping I kickstart a tackle run and I can get one of those top four. So I agree with the way that you're saying it,

but here's also how I would say it. I would take Tate, Lemon, and Tyson. Tyson, obviously, you know, the asterisk with injuries. I would take those guys in the top 12. Like in this class specifically. Like I like those players enough that you're thinking about them in the top 12. 24?

Like, that's pretty much where. That's like where the next tier, quote unquote, would start for wide receivers. So I don't think that we're too far off on even where we think about these wide receivers either. Denzel Boston and Casey Concepcion, they're two completely different players, right? It's apples and oranges comparison. I am going to go with Casey Concepcion here. I'll shout out my good pal, John Ledyard, on this one who loves Casey Concepcion. I think that he might end up having, actually, I don't want to speak for him. But he's going to have Casey Concepcion really high in his wide receiver rankings. And he was showing me some clips of him cooking fools this past season, which he absolutely did.

And he improved a lot as a route runner. Marcus, I really was not a fan of Casey Concepcion coming into this season because the NC State stuff. I mean, it was just, it wasn't real. Like, it wasn't, the way that he asked him to play was not going to translate at the NFL level. They're just like, you're the best athlete on the team. and basically played recess with him where they're like, hey, let's just get the ball in your hands

in any way, shape, or form. Now he's learning how to be much more of a receiver who wins with his releases and his route breaks and things like that. And so even though the Browns do have players who win with speed right now, like Isaiah Bond and Jerry Judy, like I think that long term, KC is an athletic piece that they'll have around for a long time and they'll really start to lean into him big time. So I'll go Concepcion here. All right, bears at 25. The chat has spammed. Eman Worry.

Emmanuel McNeill Warren. They do need a safety. They do indeed. I just understood the joke, by the way. That's how slow I am. Because it's EMW and in your brain. I just looked at my screen and was like, oh, I get it now. Yeah, yeah, yeah.

I'm not just a moron. I am, but it's just, it's a little bit more. There's some more taste there, at least, with how I mess things up. when it comes to, you know, reading words. They have spammed EMW, but the beauty of this is we do get to go with what we would do. Oh, boy. I would take Zion Young.

I've said this. This is a hot take. I would take Zion Young here if I was the Bears and bet on the fact that with one of my second rounders, I can add a safety. Also, don't really want to get too far into it, but I had Halsey ranked over EMW anyway, if I went that route.

So, but Zion Young, is in my opinion one of the best edge players in this draft. He's a lead against the run. He got so much better rushing the passer this year. He's got power. He's got inside counters. He plays 120%. It feels like every single play.

He's tough. He's a three-down-edge defender. I love this for the Bears. I come back to this pick, honestly, quite often. I'm fully with you on this, Connor. Everything you just said, I'm like in sync with you. As a Packers fan, Zion Young is like the guy.

I do not want to see the Bears get. I think he fits them perfectly. This is like exactly the range I have him. He would come, like he'd be my next edge off the board. So like saw that similarly. I wanted to ask you, like sounds like you have some holdup with Eman Worry. Was it the run defense stuff for you? Yeah, I mean, it's, Trevor and I always joke about how we got here.

Because like way back in September. or October. I used them as a stock up. And I was like, God, I found like the day two player that I, so awesome. No one's talking about him. And then somehow we got into top 20 pick. And listen, he's freakish, man. Like, he's big.

He's got long arms. I think that his awareness and, like, IQ play speed sometimes allows mistakes where guys get over the top of him. And he's late. He's a bit of a lunger as a tackler. You brought up the run game. like he lunges and dives. The weird mouthpiece thing is a whole other conversation

that we don't have to go down that road again, but he's got to get the mouthpiece in before the snap because he's literally trying to put the mouthpiece in as routes are developing, but it's a different combo. That's bizarre. I didn't notice that. Yeah, he's, dude, he's a freakish player and the right defensive coach will maximize him, but you need to bet on that right defensive coach.

And I also said, like, the safety class has depth where I feel good about that for the Bears, if they don't go there round one, where I don't think you're getting Zion Young at the end of the second round. I will say pretty confidently, you're not. I started with his Kentucky game because I wanted to see him against the high level of comp.

And there's like three plays where he just takes horrible angles to the running backs and gives up explosive plays. And so I immediately had a bad impression. Didn't see that as much against the lesser opponents he played against. But yeah, I think top 20 has felt a little rich for me with him as well.

And I think that that's why I wasn't, if you go back to the safety episode when we did summer scouting, like that's why I was lower on him in the summer because I didn't love the angles that he took to the ball. Sometimes the instincts were really hot and cold with him. It was either really, really great timing plays and big impact plays or he was giving up a lot. And Connor and I talked about this when we went over safeties last week. Like the safety position, you have to be able to have a high floor as a player. Like a lot of times we search for these guys who have a really high ceiling, but high floor is really, really important for playing safety.

You are the last line of defense at times. You can't always be, right, you cannot always be this big, big play hunter. And sometimes when guys don't have that, it worries me quite a bit. So, all right, Zion Young to the Chicago Bears there at 25. Marcus, you're up with the bills of 26. all right i have really started to love this as a fit and it's cashes howl to the bills and that's the route i'm going to go i the amount of times i wrote down like shades of nick benito with him watching him as a player that just happened a lot watching his tape with the explosiveness

the bend the quick twitch um the inside counters you have uh the defensive coordinator coming over from denver they need pass rush juice i think they can find a way to play early down stuff. And again, I said it earlier. Like, I think Howell can be practical on early downs. You probably want to rotate, just keep them fresh. Just, you know, keep them fresh for getting after the QB. But I don't think you're going to get, like, detonated against the run every play with Howell either.

So, like, they're shifting their scheme a little bit. I think just getting that explosive pass rushing piece that they have been looking for and do not have. With Jim Leonard and that defense is a great way to start building this thing up. I think that it certainly makes a lot of scheme sense for them to get that outside linebacker pass rusher type. And this is a player who just plays with so much energy, so much relentlessness. Yeah, obviously the lack of arm length is an issue. But I mean, his hands go fast, man.

And especially, you know, when offensive tackles are trying to get their longer arms out to him, he is very quick to swipe those away and try to stay clean. And that's why you see the really good passers grades and passers win percentage for him over the last couple of seasons. I love you brought up the swipes because one thing a lot of guys can have when they have those shorter arms is it's less frame to fill out. Like some of these guys with shorter arms have really strong arms. And even if Howells only listed at 250, he's packing more in his arms than a lot of other guys.

And the swipes is where that really shows. Like when guys do try to extend their arms, he's just a quick little stab away. And you see guys' arms just jolt. And then he's really good at taking advantage of it. So there is something you can weaponize from having shorter arms. I think Howell does it. I think Bain does it. And that shows.

So for the Niners at 27, McNeil Warren, I think, is kind of an easy pick for them because I think they could use some higher play, like impact play at the safety positions. They have Jaya Brown and they have Malik Mustafa. But I do think that McNeil Warren could improve the ceiling of an already pretty good safety room. So you think about that there.

I wouldn't do linebacker, obviously. Keldrick Falk, I'm not going to do because I don't think that helps them. You know, guys, I kind of want to take offensive tackle here for them. Just because if you don't have Trent Williams, you're screwed. But I've got to think that they make it happen with Trent Williams, right? I mean, there's no way they're going to let him walk. Well, can you take a guy? an upgrade guard, but he's going to take over for Trent eventually?

That's the dream, right? So then, so then that's the, that's the Caden Proctor conversation, right? Because Caden Proctor probably immediately starts next to Trent Williams, which should be hilarious. That's unreal. Massive human beings at left tackle and left guard. And then the idea is that hopefully Trent, you know, teaches him the ways like a, like a Jedi master and that Proctor's just able to step in at left tackle in the future. I don't really see

I do like that option and I don't know if I see anybody else Tyler can I see the regular board really quick Yeah some people are saying like R Mason Thomas I think that we could think about Armason Thomas here But I think it's a little early for him I would take Caden Proctor

over Ar Mason Thomas even for as much as I like Armaeus I would do the same I would take Proctor over Malachi Lawrence as well yeah let's go Proctor I'm just got I'm gonna set up the I'm gonna set up the left guard left tackle of the future type of a

Bash Brothers scenario there on the left side of the line with the Niners so Connor now you're back up with the Texans so the Texans somehow this offseason you know solidified a lot of their offensive line spots we kind of thought they'd be cornered into just having to make a pick to add to it at this spot I don't think they have to do that anymore as they're lined up with Ursary the recently signed Wyatt Teller

Jake Andrews, Ed Ingram, Braden Smith. So probably looking at an interior guy on day two, I would think the Texans. And let's not forget they have the 38th pick in the draft, which is kind of a sweet spot for that. Which is, that's from the Laramie Tunzel trade. So that was good business in terms of how this draft falls. I go back to defensive line a lot for them here. I'm also curious how they're going to view lineback.

long term, but I don't think that's pressing here right now. I mean, we've discussed this, Marcus. It feels like if a team in this draft can get Peter Woods back to the guy he was over summer, it's Houston. Like, I don't love Peter Woods, but I love him for Houston because I think D'Amico would get him being back to closer to the guy that looked like a future top 10 pick than what happened this year and throughout this process. Yeah, I couldn't agree more.

And they're kind of looking for that same guy in Logan Hall. So you're just kind of like, I know Logan Hall has been around for four years, but like that athletic interior piece, like totally fits the way they move their front around. Like, I love that as a fit. A lot of the chat is bringing up Pregnon and Besantus. I just think one of them, probably both, will be there at 38. So why would I do that here? Yeah. Yeah.

Like I get it, guys, and I agree with you. I want one of those two guys, but I just don't need to do that at 28 in this draft. Yeah. Exactly. So I'll go Peter Woods here. I would have loved if Caleb Banks was healthy, forget it. Like, it's just at some point, it is going to probably take him out of the first round

when you've just been hurt this much. And he's been inconsistent, you know? Yeah, sure. I think we'll be fair with, like, it's not like Caleb Banks was an elite player before his injuries. Like, he was a promising player, but there's still some betting that you have to do with Caleb. Banks, I think.

All right. Marcus, 29, can't see Jeeps. We had to take Caleb Downs at number nine. Speaking of Caleb Banks, oh. I mean, they say he could be the next Chris Jones. I'm just kind of clicking through to make sure I'm not forgetting anything here, but I think that's my pick.

Is it brought in? I think so, yeah, because they brought in Tonga. We still got Omar Norman Lott, you know, beat up rookie year. Chris Jones is going to be, I think he's going to be 33, but, no, 32 by the end of the season or by the start of the season. It's an injury risk, but once Chris Jones is no longer a factor here, I'm really worried about this pass rush. And even at times, Chris Jones has the last couple of years kind of been like quiet until he needs to turn it on. Slowly trending that way. Yeah, slow, it's been a real slow burn.

Like, it's not like, oh, Chris Jones is bad. It's just like, oh, Chris Jones isn't Chris Jones anymore. He's just good. Yeah. Yeah, and I don't think there's a corner here. I mean, do you not like Terrell? Maybe because Terrell's there. I like Terrell a lot.

I like Terrell, too. I feel like they like the lengthy, lengthy options down there. Terrell's tempting. I do like, although they pick again, they pick again in like 10 spots. Right, right. No, I'm going to do it. I'm going to risk the injury stuff. I'm going to take Caleb Banks.

I like him enough to think about him this late in the first. Okay. And I think he's a potential just absolute game record. I really enjoyed watching him. Foot stuff is scary, though. It's not good with a 330-pounder, but, you know, again, like if he's, if he's, if he's healthy. He probably goes higher than this because he probably plays a lot better this upcoming season. But there's a lot of things to think about with Caleb Banks. But I do think that back

end of the first round is where you start to talk to talk. Yeah. And they they trust their cornerback development so well too. That's some extra context. Like I trust that team third, fourth round. Like they turn these guys out. Um, so the dolphins at 30. I'm back on the clock here. So we went Mansour to land at 11. Really, there's not a wrong answer. answer, but is there also not a right answer? Let's think the question here. I'd love to go O-line. If anything, I would go pregnon here, I think, to play left guard for them because

7-I.E was so bad last year. They signed Sawyer. I think he starts at right guard for them. You have Austin Jackson. We've got Patrick Paul. Aaron Brewer is one of the best centers in the end. NFL. Edge rusher.

I'd love to take an edge rusher here. I guess Parker. Parker's probably next for me. Keldrick Falk's there too. I think about Falk, but he just doesn't. I mean, like, this is just such a... If I took Keldrick Falk here to Miami,

it would kind of be like, all right, yeah. I mean, he plays football. Like, Keldrick Falk's such a, you have to build, I feel like the defense around him a lot more type of a player. Ah, let's go T.J. Parker. Let's go T.J. Parker here. I'll take Parker. Hopefully, uh, some stability on the edge because everybody knows I'm not,

I wasn't the biggest Chop Robinson fan anyways going into the draft. Uh, felt like he was overdrafted where he was in the first round. You signed Josh Ujave and David Ojoabo to one year deal. So, uh, outside of those three guys, I don't really have anybody that I lean on it past or should I feel good about. So I'm going Parker. Yeah. I'm lower on Parker than that, but it's a huge need, and it's not a huge reach for me. But I'm curious what I want to ask the Big Ten guy here.

I think Derek Moore is just a better version of T.J. Parker. What do you think about that? You think you like it better than T.J.? I did. I think T.J. plays with more power on a consistent basis. I think more. I disagree. Really?

I think more needs to unlock. that in bigger games. Like he has some big, you could see it in the grades actually right there. I thought he had some big boom games. And then you see like some games where it's like, eh. And even, like he ran through Markell Bell at the senior ball, right? And I think it was the start of the week. And everyone's like, oh my God.

And then he kind of faded throughout the week a little bit. So it's just, I feel. Because they both had those, like, huge reps at the Senior Bowl. Because T.J. Parker had the long arm. Yeah, yeah, yeah. So, yeah, I like Parker's floor a little bit better. But I don't think you're, it's not crazy. It's not crazy at all.

Patriots are 31? You, right? You, Connor? Okay. Kind of have a couple interesting options here. Because they need a more athletic pass rusher. And I've had them take Malachi Lawrence here before. it feels like they are going to make a move for another wide receiver

besides just signing Romeo Dobbs but there's a chance they would require this pick so we can't just act like that's going to happen I really like Denzel Boston in this spot I it's weird Denzel but people don't seem excited about Denzel Boston which is always interesting to me I think he's really good And he's got that big body perimeter threat, although Washington used them everywhere.

But I think he could play on the outside for you as a contested catch guy. He could be a bully with a ball in his hands, too, if you get him some short area stuff. So if you're looking to get a bigger target that can win and play above the rim and be that kind of guy for Drake May, especially when Drake May escapes and extends plays, I'm going to go with Denzel Boston here. I don't think he's been available in this spot on a mock draft we've done.

So kind of a cool, unique scenario. Thoughts on Denzel Boston? Marcus? Yeah, I like them. I see a lot of like Mike Williams, like good starting X. I think getting that at 31 is great. I do see Keon Coleman coms with him a lot, and I would definitely push back on that. I trys me nuts.

I don't see that at all. No, I don't see that at all. It's because he's mocked to the bills a lot. That's why. And it's just off base. Makes sense. Makes sense. Yeah, very different ways that they won in conference.

college, I would say that's not fair to Boston. Marcus, you're up 32. I feel like it's always a corner here, but they did bring Josh Job back. They did. And I think they liked Josh Job. So I think that was at least like we had half. Yeah, it was, yeah, what, like seven or eight a year, I think?

Yeah, I'll take a look for it. I just, I kept waiting for the damn to break on Josh Job as the year went on. And he just kept being pretty solid. So I think it's enough where it like just kind of depends how you feel about like a Colton Hood. Avion Terrell would be fun because he's got a little bit of. Emmanuel McNeill Warren is here and you can draft him the same team that Nicky Manwry plays for. Oh my God. So it could just be my absolute hell watching Seahawks games.

That would be incredible. What do you guys think of C.J. Allen here? He's never here. So I just finished C.J. Allen last week. And I think he's a very, like, high floor run defending linebacker. Now, he wants him in the basement of Guantan. I don't see a game. She hates this guy. He thinks this guy should be taking UDFA calls during the fifth or six around.

Yeah, he wants, he wants this guy. Like, yeah, would you sign here? He wants this guy as a manager at Safeway. Good God. Um, I think I'm going to go with Emmanuel Pregnan. Oh, who? Let's go back to back your. Back to O-line.

Back to O-line. We still have a problem at right guard. It was not addressed in free agency. I think they like Drake Thomas. That was another reason I didn't go C.J. Allen. I think they liked Drake Thomas. They gave him like a two-year extension. And I see, I think Tyrese Knight on that depth chart is actually kind of redundant with C.J. Allen.

I like Tyre's Knight. They just, they liked Drake Thomas enough that he kind of took that job. So I think they're pretty good at linebacker. and we're going to fortify the O line even further. All right, there we go. Sneaking Immanuel Pregnone into that first round. The chat was real worried that we weren't going to. Really quick, rapid fire, Connor,

who do you think the Jets would take in this scenario? Who would they take already? Omar Cooper and Bain? Yep, yep, yep. Yeah, because the main goal here is just to get to the later. Pregnon just went, yep. They would probably take Colton Hood. Okay.

Or, yeah, take Colton Hood or Emmanuel, like Neil Warren. Let's do Colton Hood for the Cardinals. I'll go Maxiannature to play right tackle for them. Like it. For the Titans, uh, Marcus, real quick, because I mainly want to get to the Raiders.

Yeah, we're just trying to get to the Raiders here. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Take Judarian Price. Take Judarian Price. Yes. Take Jonah Coleman. Take Jonah Coleman. All right, well, Judarian Price, going to the Titans there at 35.

So now the, so now the Raiders are up with board looking like this. Thoughts overall. We could do this collaborative. Even on Trell is screaming at me right now. Yeah, yeah, I think so too. He's too good of a football player and he's, I mean, he is a

immediate starter for them, I think, on the outside. Yeah, because who do they have Deering Porter? They have Deerian Porter. They have Tehran Johnson. Oh, I forgot they got Teron Johnson. I would take McPounder here personally.

Oh, they also need McPounder. No question. I think he's a better player. I know it's hard to talk about a corner and a detackle, but... Am I, I'm curious? Am I crazy? Because I just watched him last week. Am I crazy for having Christian Miller higher than McDonald?

No, we love Christian Miller on this show. I think he does pretty close to the same in run defense. I do think McDonald's better there, but I think Christian Miller has a chance to give you so much more as a pass rusher. It just probably depends what you're looking for. I think you could put McPounder in the middle of your defense and single-handedly you could stop the run all of a sudden. The way you can kind of shift guys and like he's just, he takes on two blockers against the run. Yeah, he's really good.

But I don't think your take is off where Christian Miller has a little bit more variety to his game. I have Christian Miller DT1. Oh, wow. Okay. Yeah. And I have him tied for DT1 with Peter Woods right now. Yeah. I have Christian Miller DT1.

I just finished up the defense tackles and we haven't done the. defensive tackle episode yet, but I just finished up defensive tackles and he's my DT1. Yeah. So I don't hate that at all. So either one of those guys, you're going to say like Christian Miller or Caden McPounder? We can go McPounder. It's fine. We can do that.

Yeah, hard to go wrong. Yeah. With either of those. There you go. Run stuff there for the Las Vegas Raiders. There it is, folks. Brand new what we would do, first round mock draft, courtesy of the fellows over at NFLSC and that franchise guy, Marcus Whitman.

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We get to 10 million. It's diamond. Right? And then I think a 100 million is like a platinum one. If I'm remembering the tiers correctly. I think it's like that. Everything past a million just blows my So I don't even comprehend it. Hey, we'll both be there.

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