NFL Stock Exchange: An NFL Draft Podcast - NEW 2026 1st-Round COLLAB Mock Draft (with Football Analysis)

Episode Date: March 31, 2026

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Starting point is 00:00:00 I'm just liked all the teams. And I'm going to go over here for the first time ever in show history. And I'm going to click seven rounds. The seven round marathon mock draft is going to be at noon Eastern Tuesday, April 14th for that charity stream. Over under four and a half misclicks from Trevor. We go back and forth with you guys for seven straight hours as we go through every single pick that a mock draft can possibly handle. So we're starting the draft. Final pick of the fourth round.
Starting point is 00:00:23 I'm going to draft Ahmed Hosinin here to the Brown's 200. Every last super chat dollar goes to two different charities. $300 super check. What? We had so much fun on last year's show. We can't wait forward again. It's going to be great. It's going to be jam packed with obviously you guys in the chat.
Starting point is 00:00:37 May this stream rest in piss. Tim, you're on thin ice brother with guests that we get throughout the marathon. Benjamin Solac. Mike Renner, baby. You broke up there, but I'm sure it was something stupid. It's a great time. So hopefully you guys can join us for that at noon Eastern Tuesday, April 14th. Appreciate you guys.
Starting point is 00:00:52 See them. Connor, I was on Marcus's show for like a free agent auction draft type of a thing. We started with Kyler. and then, you know, Alec Pierce and the Kobe Dean and all this. And then Garrett is like, this is chalky. People are not going to like it. People are going to hate it. Long snapper Andrew DePaolo back to the Viking.
Starting point is 00:01:12 No. Wow. The long snapper counts the same as guessing where like Kenneth Walker would go. It's free points for us. That's actually incredible work by Garrett taking that strategy. Look, it's on ethical podcasting. That's what it is. The opening bell of the NFL Stock Exchange podcast.
Starting point is 00:01:41 Trevor Secondman, Connor Rogers, here with you guys for another. episode of the CoLab mock draft series. And for this episode, to talk about unethical podcasting and to mock draft here with us, it is football analysis himself. Garrett Greenlee. Garrett, appreciate to joining the show, my friend. How you feeling? I'm feeling great. Not a lot of things I can say. I'm like, I'm a day one, but I'm a day one addict, so I'm looking forward to it. And if you think there was some unethical podcasting within the free agent draft, there's, just wait, wait till you see, wait till you see what's coming up in the next couple. I've, I've been, I've been scheming I've been in contact with the chef.
Starting point is 00:02:15 There's some things that's going to be on the horizon. Are we getting a long snapper? Are we getting a long snapper in the first round? Is that what you're telling us? I don't want to spoil. It's a what you would do mock draft and no rules. It is. Garrett, I have an important question for you because you've really had a rise to stardom
Starting point is 00:02:33 over the last couple of years. I appreciate it. Well over 200,000 subscribers on YouTube. But you do go by the I don't know if it's an alias, But football analysis, has anyone in public, because you have a lot of subscribers, tons of people watch your content, they know your face, they know your voice. Has anyone in public ever said to you, hey, are you football analysis? Yes.
Starting point is 00:02:56 Yes. Yes. So, so Marcus and I talked about it because it happens down to Mobile. And I just said, if I went down to Mobile in 2026, unfortunately, I couldn't make it because of the weather. Connor, you and I were stuck in that boat. I told Marcus, like a month and it. advance. If somebody comes up to me and says like, hey, man, love the content. I said that I was just going to look straight through their soul like David Goggins and just
Starting point is 00:03:20 be like, I know it's great content. Like you don't have to tell me. And then just, just wait for them to react and then just be like, no, thanks, man. I really, really appreciate it. That's the ultimate power move. That's like, that's like, again, you know, somebody sticks their hand out to shake your hand. And it's like, you can't stop shaking their hand. Like it's just who's going to break the physical contact first. And you're just sitting there and you're just squeezing harder to assert the dominance and you're just staring through their soul being like, yeah, yeah, brother, I know the content's good. Thanks for telling me what I already know. But genuinely, the content's phenomenal. Gary, you've done an awesome job building, like what Connor said,
Starting point is 00:03:55 an empire over there on the football analysis YouTube channel. So anybody who is following this show knows this show. You guys, if you're not subscribed to what Garrett's doing over on his channel, you absolutely should be. We're here for a lot of fun. We're doing a brand new first round, like Garrett said, what we would do mock draft. We kicked off the series last week with Marcus, and we're going to sort of have the same order. I like what Marcus suggested last week, where it's like, hey, we don't really start this at one.
Starting point is 00:04:23 Why don't we start it at two? And then actually get a Raiders pick at the top of the second round and make sure that all the Raiders fans out there know where the best draft analysis is. It's right here, because we're going all the way in the second round to make sure that you guys are thought of and taken care of. So we are going to do that. if I remember correctly, if my memory serves me correctly, which it rarely does, Marcus picked two last week, correct?
Starting point is 00:04:46 So I think that... Yeah, because he took Rubin Bain to the Jets. I'll never forget it. Great pick. No, great pick. Interesting. Great pick. We won't discuss it any further.
Starting point is 00:04:58 Do you want to pick two or you want me to pick two? You should pick two. You should pick two. Okay, so I'm going to pick two. Garrett, I'm going to have you pick three. Oh, good. Or does he have to pick, does he have to pick it four for you to have different teams?
Starting point is 00:05:14 Because you should have different teams as well. No, I think I picked four. So it's you, Garrett, than me. No, no, no. Oh, boy. You picked four last week, correct? Oh, you're right. So you have to pick three and then Garrett's got to pick four.
Starting point is 00:05:30 Hell boy, we're so back. I'm getting Alford. I'm getting Alford. My plan was to just let me get pick 18. I just want to pick 18. There's been some questionable pick 18. Hold on. You can, yeah, you could do pick 18.
Starting point is 00:05:40 You could do, yeah, you could do pick 18. That's totally fine. You could absolutely do pick 18. One quick, one quick thing for Dunny in the chat. I saw a sad face saying no more predictive mock drafts. We are going to do predictive mock draft. Trevor and I always do a draft week final predictive mock draft. And I'm sure we'll have plenty of combos more that are more predictive.
Starting point is 00:06:00 But with guests, we like to kind of put everything in their hands. The power is in their. hand. So for now, we'll get away from predictive, which we did for way too long. 100%. Do we need to address the, uh, the, the video going around on social media? Do we need to, yeah, I'd like to get to it. I feel like we need to give the shout out to, uh, big blue gooney, who's on an unreal heater by the way with the videos that he is creating. You'd argue he's the biggest sensation of the 2006 NFL draft coverage. Honestly, probably the biggest stock up Twitter account that we, that we have that we've been tracking at least for this
Starting point is 00:06:31 entire draft cycle. If you guys haven't seen the video, it's absolutely hilarious. It's taking old pictures that Connor and I have had through the years, honestly, even going into NFLSC. And I believe the copy or the tweet was, they would find each other and do a draft podcast in every lifetime. So it shows off Connor's bodybuilding days when you were a power lifter. Yeah. Yeah, back when I was a lot tougher. Absolutely staff. The emo hair days for me? No, I got to, I I want to stop here. Go ahead. No, no one.
Starting point is 00:07:04 The quality of this photograph is so good that there were comments questioning if this was real. And it is very, very real. It is. It is. You know, back when Trevor and I were waiting in these waters of being single, you had to actually, like, post on Instagram to find a girlfriend. Dude, people these days don't even know what you had to go through. They don't even know. The setup.
Starting point is 00:07:29 up, the idea, like bringing it to life, all of that, man, you just, you had to do what you had to do. And you know what? That picture right there, that's how I landed Alyssa. Just kidding. I had my whole head shaved before I met Alyssa. And if I had my hair like that, she probably wouldn't have given me the time of day. Dude, it's so good. I saw the picture and I was like, is this real?
Starting point is 00:07:51 I was going to DM it to you, but I was like, you know, I'm going to see him in an hour. So I was like, this is one, I just, I had no idea if that was actually real. It's very real. you know what? I'm bringing it back. I was going to say, why don't we run this back? No, we're bringing it back.
Starting point is 00:08:05 We're running it back. It's time to run it back. Yeah, we got to run it back. We're running it back. I don't know if I'm allowed to run it back, but we're running it back. Let's find out. Let's see what happens here.
Starting point is 00:08:14 Yeah, yeah. Let me just play Russian roulette with my marriage and grow up my hair back y'all like that. Oh, man. Fun times, fun times. All right, do we have anything else? Do we got to get to? Before we get some mock draft?
Starting point is 00:08:30 I think. I see Rectaric said, what the hell did I just walk into? Yeah, yeah. You better buckle up, baby. It's only getting it get crazier here with this, what we would do mock draft. We're getting a long snapper on the first round. It's getting it crazy here.
Starting point is 00:08:43 That was awesome. All right, we are skipping over the Las Vegas Raiders. I'm picking it two. Connor's picking at three. And I think Garrett's going to pick at four here. Obviously, we'll have a good discussion about every single pick that we make. Fernando Mendoza will have him going number one overall. what we would do, mock draft.
Starting point is 00:09:03 I feel bad doing the exact same pick, but I pick Ruben Bain. It's your pick. I would take Ruben Bain here. And I talked about this with Marcus on last week's show. I am, I'm not going to overthink Ruben Bain. I'm just not. I think he's been one of the best players in college football over the last couple of seasons, but specifically this past season, he was one of the best.
Starting point is 00:09:25 I know he's not necessarily built like an NFL edge rusher when it comes to the measurables of arm length and all that. But the guy just plays with so much power. He plays so clean. I think that some of the cherry picking reps to me that I see on social media of people who are like, oh, see him right here? Like it took him a while to get past the left tackle. It's like, yeah, okay.
Starting point is 00:09:46 How many pass rush snaps do you think that you have in a season? 300, 400? You get a sack on 18 of those. You're a hall of famer. So like you got to understand that there's going to be. reps where they don't necessarily win. I think more often than not, he's either going to be a winner or he is going to affect the game with the power that he plays with versus the run and versus the
Starting point is 00:10:10 past. I think that Ruben Bain's a phenomenal player. Garrett, what are your thoughts overall on Ruben Bain and where you'd kind of have him? Maybe talk about him potentially going number two, but just your thoughts on where you might have him overall in this class. So in terms of overall talent, not with positional value, I did a big board. A little over a month ago, I had him as the non. number one player in the class again not factoring in positional value i think he's a tremendous talent i think
Starting point is 00:10:33 there's going to be a very real reality eight months from now we look back and kind of question why this was ever a discussion to begin with and if i were darren mojy had picked two um conner i'd be really curious as a jets fan where you stand on this i know there's obviously the r val reiss discussion but i think reuben bain compares favorably to take your choosing of brandon graham terrell sugs everson Griffin, kind of all in that mold. Really, really high floor player. Absolutely love him as a prospect, good against the run. I mean, really good pass rusher.
Starting point is 00:11:05 To me, a do not overthink it, high floor player should be in the NFL for double-digit years barring health. You know what's interesting to me. Listen, Ruben Bain is, he's a really, really good player. I'm not going to get into the whole like fit aspect today,
Starting point is 00:11:22 you know, with Carl Dunbar, going to look in more three, four fronts. And I don't really love Bain as a, three, four defensive end as the number two overall pick. If you want to take that player at a different range, I'd understand it. I feel like I would need somebody that can truly stand up in this defense and play in space as well. You know what's interesting though? You said Brandon Graham, Garrett, and you said some bigger comparisons to, which backs up your point.
Starting point is 00:11:46 But I know a lot of people are leaning on Brandon Graham. Is that a player ceiling-wise that you take number two in the draft? Maybe in this draft it is, but for me, I just, I wouldn't. I think I'm really comfortable with Bain's floor. Like I just don't see a world where he's not a solid to really good NFL player. But I think at number at the second overall pick, you need a star. And I feel like in a weird way, Arville Reese has almost become underrated in this draft
Starting point is 00:12:13 because I think he is an elite offball linebacker prospect with the traits that's tap into being a really good edge rusher. I mean, he's 20. He's going to be over 250 pounds with this NFL body and probably, less than two years. So it's an interesting combo. Once again, it's not where I would go, but it's fascinating to me now that Marcus went down that road, Trevor has gone down that road, and Garrett, you said you would go down that road. So I think it's a lot more split than people are making it out to be that Bain has fallen away from the pack of the top players in this
Starting point is 00:12:47 draft in the eyes of evaluators. Yeah. So we got the Cardinals up at number three. Real quick, before we hit the Cardinals, just wanted to read this one super chat from BM Welker. I said, I've been going through a lot in my personal life. So glad that I could catch a live show today. NFLSC always cheers me up and brings the good vibes when I need it. Love y'all and this community. Well, we appreciate you, Welker, tuning into the show. Hopefully it's exactly that.
Starting point is 00:13:11 At the top of the show, obviously, I hope that you could have a good laugh for the things that we were talking about there and throughout the mock draft. And just shout out to everybody who's in this NFLLC community. We love you guys. We appreciate you. We appreciate you making it a community where Welker could say that and genuinely mean that. And that also means the world to us as content creators who are putting it on. So we appreciate you guys.
Starting point is 00:13:33 And then the other super chat that I'll raise from Roberto because it brings us into number three here. Trev, stop the Cardinals linebacker rage bait. Well, I don't have the pick for the Cardinals here at number three. Connor has that pick here at number three. So Connor, take it away, my friend. Well, I guess I'm going to keep it going. I'm not going to take Sunny Stiles. but I'm going to take Arvel Reese.
Starting point is 00:13:53 I mean, when it comes down to it here, and now it's a really interesting combo for me between, and I see in the chat from Log Trade Down, yeah, the Cardinals, I think, themselves want to trade down in this draft. It's just a matter of, can you get out of this pick? This to me is a combo between Bailey and Reese, because I do think they need a true game-wrecking player that can get them off the field on third downs,
Starting point is 00:14:16 and I think Bailey can be that from day one. but I think with Reese, he could do so many different things for you in this defense. I think he can make plays in space. I think he can play off the ball. I think on third down, you can develop his pass rush ability because he has such violent, strong hands to kind of control tackles and throw them off and stack and shed. He is going to be one of the best quarterback spies in the NFL, the second he walks into the league.
Starting point is 00:14:43 And, you know, when you're dealing with all these athletic quarterbacks in the league, like that's a trait that matters for guys that are if there are three, four outside linebacker, if they're an offball middle linebacker. So once again, I like this player a lot. He's an excellent tackler. I think his instincts have really, really gone up a lot. And I think the matter is he makes Arizona so much better in the middle of the field with the ability to also do some stuff off the edge pretty quickly.
Starting point is 00:15:09 I do. Sorry, I do have a question with this. Do you think there is a part of Cardinals fans that would be. worried that this would be like the front seven version of Isaiah Simmons six years later where it's like we have a player that's you know that's the one part of Arval Reese where I feel like it's not brought up and I like Arval Reese more than I like to Isaiah Simmons by quite a bit but is there a part of you that would be worried at all well I understand why a fan base would be worried about that right for me when we did the linebacker rankings I had Arvel
Starting point is 00:15:39 Reese is the number one linebacker in the draft so with Isaiah Simmons I think people didn't know what to do with him they just loved that he could do everything For the difference for me, I think, I know Arbel is elite at something today. The question is he could also be very high end at an even more premium position a year from now once he keeps growing and he's already got the hand strength and the speed. So that would be the difference to me is that I think you're already getting a really accomplished player that plays in your front seven from day one. It's just a matter of what he can grow into as an edge player.
Starting point is 00:16:12 Rather than, you know, with Simmons, it was a little bit like, hey, Is he a safety? Is he an off-ball linebacker? And he kind of fell somewhere in the middle. And when you fall somewhere in the middle of the NFL, you don't really have, at least when he played, you just don't really have a true home. So it's a really good point.
Starting point is 00:16:28 And I'm glad that you, I'm glad that you brought this question up because we've actually gotten this question a couple of times and we just haven't fully addressed it. Because I also saw somebody in the chat. And I'm not saying that these are like, you know, like bad things to call out. I think this is good to call out,
Starting point is 00:16:42 especially for a team that for the Cardinals, they've been burned more than most. with this whole like off ball on ball linebacker hybrid sort of situation because they had Isaiah Simmons and then Zavon Collins is the other one right Zavent Collins gets drafted in the first round and he was not the player that he needed to be for them for him to be picked that high the difference is Arvel Reese and I'm yeah I'm I'm I'm a little bit more skeptical is too harsh of a word like Arvel Reese is still going to be a top 10 player for me I want to be very clear I can understand where people kind of come from with their concerns of him
Starting point is 00:17:14 But there's two ways, very, very fundamentally, that Ravelle Reese is different, that both of those names for the Cardinals. One, he is physical. And that is something that Isaiah Simmons was not. Isaiah Simmons was not nearly physical enough to play at the linebacker level, to play on the line of scrimmage, or even to play safety. Like, they put him at safety basically because it's like, all right, well, let's take the physical parts of the game away from you more often. And that, you know, he's not, he just, he doesn't have the mindset. said he doesn't really have the moves like a safety. He wasn't really a true safety type of a player.
Starting point is 00:17:47 So that's how you get the homeless sort of tag from Isaiah Simmons is that he didn't have the physicality and the strength to play in the front seven. I don't worry about that with Arvel Reese at all whatsoever. He is physical. He is strong. And like you said, it is, you know, irony, a strength. Like it is a true strength for him to play with that sort of physicality. The difference between him and Zayvon Collins is Zayvon, Collins didn't have the movement skills to be an offball linebacker.
Starting point is 00:18:14 You look at Zavin Collins, I think these are pro day results for him. 10-yard split, 39th percentile, 40-yard dash, 57th percentile, vertical jump, 58th percentile, 20-yard shuttle, 33rd percentile. That's just a bad pick. That was, and that's the thing, is like, these are just bad picks. You're asking somebody who's like a bigger, stronger middle linebacker to now flow sideline to sideline. He can't do that.
Starting point is 00:18:39 He didn't have the speed. He never has. So to me, those. two picks. I'm not saying that that means it's a guarantee that Arville-R-R-Vor-R-Ease is going to work out, but that's the argument against those two picks is you kind of didn't really know what you were drafting in Isaiah Simmons, and you just said, ah, we'll pick him and we'll figure it out. That's a bad strategy to have. And then for Zavon-Collins, you sort of drafted him and then asked him to do something that he wasn't physically going to be able to do. So that was more of a misidentification
Starting point is 00:19:06 of the talent and the player than it was any sort of question of, oh, let's not draft guys who are anymore. So I just wanted to make sure that we gave that answer the depth that it needed because I think Garrett was smart to bring that up because a lot of people have had those questions, Cardinals fans specifically as well. I, yeah, I don't, I didn't think this was bold, but it feels bolder as we get closer to the draft. I think Reese is an absolute stud. I would like you had, you add him to any defense and he plays with such an NFL level violence and so much speed. And he's already got a ceiling to tap into while having such a high floor. I mean, he was my number one linebacker for a reason.
Starting point is 00:19:47 I think he's a pretty special player, honestly. Garrett, if you have Arville Reese thoughts, I'd love to hear him. But if not, you're up at the Titans number four overall, my friend. No, I do love Arval Reese. I would echo everything you guys just said. There were several reps this year in the run game where I personally wouldn't have the concerns as much as I wanted to bring that up specifically with a team that has had players that have been kind of floaters, if you will, between or as you said, homeless with
Starting point is 00:20:14 Isaiah Simmons, where it's like, hey, there's been questions from and previous picks that have not worked out. Even Hassan Redick that had a lot of success elsewhere dating back to 2017. So more of just like wanted to bring it up and especially with, with this specific team. But no, I love Arvel. Absolutely. I think he has an extremely high ceiling. And I can't wait to see the pass rush profile, given what we saw in flashes at Ohio. State project on Sundays and see how that that turns out. All right. Titans is number four.
Starting point is 00:20:45 What are you feeling? Jeremy, I love. He's elite football player, helps out Cam Ward. Running game is quarterback's best friend. I have no idea where to go with the comparison for him because he's such a unique player in the sense of he has such a good blend of power, such a good blend of speed. He's so explosive as a runner that you really don't see players of his weight hurdle as much as he does with as regularity of success that he has, really aside from somebody like
Starting point is 00:21:13 Sequin who's even even heavier than Jeremiah I love, but he's such a clean prospect. I personally think he's RB3 in the past eight years with only Sequin and Bijan ahead of him in the past, you know, going on eight years. I would be absolutely shocked if he doesn't go to Tennessee, be healthy for all 17 games and rush for 1,100 or 1100 yards in his rookie season. Yeah, I mean, I'm with you all the way on this pick. This was the pick. I made last week. What he's going to do for them as a three-down player and be the identity of their offense is easily worth this selection.
Starting point is 00:21:45 There is no point in overthinking, can you take a running back here for Tennessee? I think this makes way too much sense. The only thing that I would add is with Jeremiah Love, because I know there's probably a part of her a camp that would want a receiver to go to Tennessee to even help out Cam Ward more in the receiving game is I think there's a much bigger drop-off between Jeremiah Love and Judarian Price than a receiver they be able to get at the top of round two. So for the Giants here at number five,
Starting point is 00:22:14 I am between three players. Can I guess? Yes, sure. Go ahead. Stiles. Correct. Downs. Correct.
Starting point is 00:22:27 Mowingoa? Yes. He's three for three, folks. He's three for three. It's why we're podcast partners. I think the Giants themselves are probably looking at it the same exact way. Personally. Yeah, you know, it's,
Starting point is 00:22:40 Owners meetings are going on right now out in Phoenix. And so you get to, you know, hear from the head coaches and the general managers. And I thought it was interesting that John Harbaugh was like, hey, we're trying to be the best team in the NFL and on offensive line and defensive line. Like that's what we're trying to be. So I think that's an interesting comment to make because when you look at their offensive line right now, they brought back Germain and Illuminaur. But they have John Runyon, Aaron Stinnie, John Michael Schmitz, they brought back Evan Neal as well. they have Marcus Bo, who I feel like is more of an interior offensive lineman than an offensive tackle. But it's like, okay, even with Illuminaur, you feel all right at the tackle spots,
Starting point is 00:23:19 but do you feel like you could draft Maui Noah, play him at guard, and then kick him out the tackle whenever Illumor no longer has value for you or his contract runs out? I think that that is a viable strategy. I would also, you know, consider Spencer Fano here as well, who I like a lot. but I am going to go with Sunny Stiles. I just think that Stiles still makes the most sense for this team. What gives me a little bit of hesitation of how highly he would be ranked for them is them giving Tremaine Edmunds a three-year, $36 million contract.
Starting point is 00:23:53 Like, did they feel like they're good at linebacker? But it's him, and then it's Michael McFadden, who's the next linebacker. I mean, I can see a world where they would still want a player of Stiles caliber because of everything that he could do off ball and as a blitzer as well. I'll go Sony Stiles here for the Giants, but that's sort of what was, you know, towing around by mine of the picks here for them. Rounds at six.
Starting point is 00:24:16 This is pretty tricky in this spot. I mean, I think if they were in this position, they'd probably take Carnell Tate. I'm going to surprise some people here, and it's not going to be loved, and whatever, it is what it is. This is for our rankings, right? They need a number one.
Starting point is 00:24:37 wide receiver and I think the number one receiver in this draft is Jordan Tyson. And I've said it before. I'm okay with being wrong on this when all is said and done. If that's how it happens, he's been my number one receiver since we did a receiver rankings in June or July or whatever it was. It hasn't moved. I understand there's health concerns, but he just has a way bigger ceiling than the other top receivers in this draft as a separator.
Starting point is 00:25:03 And you got to be able to do that consistently at the NFL level to be a number one. And this is the kind of receiver of the Browns need. You can move them all around as Monkin would do. Once again, I understand some people are not going to like it. I think a lot of people have almost been, the injury concerns are real. No one's denying that. But it's gotten to the point where people think Jordan Tyson has never played football. He has almost 2,000 yards over the last two years.
Starting point is 00:25:25 Like it has gone so far one way. I have people asking me if he should be a second rounder, a second rounder. So once again, it's not a predictive. I'd love to get him. and I'd love to get him in the second. Yeah, right, sign me up. Personally. It's not a predictive mock.
Starting point is 00:25:40 If it was, I wouldn't have Jordan Tyson going in the top 10 for full transparency, but it's more based on our rankings and needs and the Browns need number one receiver. I think this is that guy. Garrett, thoughts. This is always, you know, whoever was going to go off the board first at the wide receiver position. It was going to open up the question to you of sort of, what do you think of this wide receiver class?
Starting point is 00:25:59 What do you think of Jordan Tyson in the wide receiver class? And then, you know, give me a little, what do you think with him? What do you think about Tyson with the injury and then without the injury, sort of where he is in your rankings? So I hate to do this, but whenever I bring up like the injuries, I always kind of have like a built-in cop out. Like these NFL teams are billion-dollar companies like they're billion-dollar businesses. They obviously are going to know way more than I will out of my house. So there's going to be, you know, like so many medical checks they're going to be there to know way more than I ever will. But what I would say is I can understand the thought process of him being the number one receiver based off talent.
Starting point is 00:26:35 I am not a huge on forcing pro comparisons just to force him, but I think there's a blend of Chris Olive and Justin Jefferson within his game. I absolutely love Jordan Tyson. And I did see somebody tweeted Connor a couple days ago that Connor, I think said even there's some Odell in his game. He is electric with a ball in his hands. And I actually quote tweeted today about Jordan Tyson. Just please stay healthy.
Starting point is 00:27:00 He could very easily be an offensive rookie of the year candidate if everything goes right. he's a player that getting open at the next level is not going to be a problem. We're not having a question about Jordan Tyson's ability. The only question we're having about is if he can stay healthy. And you guys have alluded on the pod before where there's times where NFL teams go the complete other direction, where it's like, hey, this guy missed two games due to a sprained ankle two years ago. Let's bump him down like, you know, around and a half or something or just bump him way down because of one thing, one time. I know Tyson's concerns are significant, but I can understand with, I can understand selecting Jordan Tyson with the sixth pick, and especially in a what we would do mock.
Starting point is 00:27:43 And the talent is, I mean, when you're getting compared to Justin Jefferson shades of O'Dell Beckham, I would say it speaks for itself. Yeah. I think the comparisons for Jordan Tyson are, I don't know if like, unfortunately is the right word. But sometimes I feel like we get too hyperbolic with comps. You know, we just think of these guys who are all pros or Hall of Famers. He's like, oh, he reminds me, Julio Jones. Yeah, no, he doesn't, actually. But, like, sometimes we have those situations.
Starting point is 00:28:14 But the way that Tyson moves, especially as an intermediate route runner, I think that it's special stuff, the way that he can create separation from his routes. And so, obviously, I agreed with you back when we did the wide receiver episode about having Tyson as wide receiver won. So, extremely talented dude. But now we've got Garrett back on the clock here with the Washington commanders. Hey audio listeners.
Starting point is 00:28:37 I know you guys are more audio than YouTube, but we're making a big push right now and a big campaign to reach 75K subs on YouTube by the time the draft rolls around. If you have a YouTube account or even if you don't and you would love to support the show by just creating one and subscribing, it would really mean the world to us. We appreciate you guys. Thank you so much for listening to the show on audio. Let's get back to the episode. Garrett back on the clock here with the Washington commanders. So I did predict, you know, there was a little bit of a quarrel between Trevor and I and the free agent mock draft where I predicted Jalen Hawkins
Starting point is 00:29:09 to go to the commanders. He didn't. They did pick up Nick Cross. The only two players that I'm debating here are Caleb Downs or Carnal Tate. I think that Carnal Tate would complement Terry McLaren. You look at the commander's receiving corps. And outside of Terry McLaren, who was banged up last year, you're looking at Luke McCaffrey, Trayland Burks,
Starting point is 00:29:30 Diami Brown, Van Jefferson, Jalen Lane, who was a day three dart throw last year, I think you could go either way. Where I will go is Caleb Downs. I will go Caleb Downs, bring in a, one of the cleanest prospects in this class, a player that Dan Quinn would absolutely love. And the biggest thing that I would hammer home
Starting point is 00:29:49 is that there's still going to be good receivers available later. Unfortunately, the commanders do not have a second round pick because of the Laramie Tunsell trade. but I would prefer Caleb Downs, especially in this defense, and especially for a defense that needs help. Caleb's a stud. You just can't go wrong with that. Right.
Starting point is 00:30:06 Yeah. It's, you can't go wrong with that. The defense just needs so much playmaking, but also like, it's beyond playmaking. It's just like high football IQ stuff. Like you just need somebody who's going to be really, like you said, stable, dependable. He's going to be able to play a couple of different positions for you. As you build out the rest of the defense, I think you could. move him around to sort of compliment however you're filling it out and you're getting a little
Starting point is 00:30:30 bit younger so i love the caleb down's pick but i do agree with you garret i think that carnell tate also would be a really good match for them and and a good compliment to terry mclorne i think the same thing about the saints here at number eight like i think about carnell tate here but it's hard for me even as somebody who's who is more skeptical about david bailey what bailey could be for this team that i think carl granderson could kind of do it all for you, right? If you play on the interior, he could play as a defensive end. He's sort of just a versatile defensive line.
Starting point is 00:31:06 And Chase Young played well last year, but they need a major difference maker. Like, even if you include Chase Young, where are the true difference makers on this defensive line? Devon Gossachar, Brian Brzee, Nathan Shepard. Yeah, it feels like they had some little misses there. Right. like Vernon Broughton, who is fine as sort of, again, like a versatile defensive lineman, John Ridgeway, Chris Rump. I mean, I got to go with David Bailey here.
Starting point is 00:31:40 I think I've got Mackay Lemon ranked a little bit higher. I would think about Cornell Tate as well, but just the lack of pass rush from this team, it has to get better going into next season. So David Bailey, I'll take the swing on him here at number eight for New Orleans because they just do not have consistent difference makers on that defensive line. I mean, I would have taken them at 9 for sure. There's just no way I would have had David Bailey fall out of the top 10. He's too good, in my opinion.
Starting point is 00:32:10 And I like your phrasing of difference maker there, Trev. That's what the Saints need. Uncle Phil in the chat is saying, all caps, Mason Tipton is starting for this team. And I'll keep it a buck with you. I couldn't remember what position Mason Tipton played, which I think goes into why. this person commented this,
Starting point is 00:32:30 but yeah, it's the wide receiver spot, but there are so many wide receivers that you could get round two, round three. Now again, that's not to say that like lemon or tape wouldn't be good selections here. I would like both of them,
Starting point is 00:32:41 but I think I just, I like receiver later more than I like passing on pass rush or here. Gary, what are you laughing at? Just Mason, just in all caps, Mason Tipton is starting for this team. Yeah,
Starting point is 00:32:53 yeah, I mean. I do, I said that as a day one addict, I have some jokes that I got to force here. Chef, can we pull up a safety from Missouri for the low moving costs at pick nine? There he is. There he is.
Starting point is 00:33:05 The legend. That's what I wanted I wanted I wanted the three, six, and nine so I could force this year. I wanted I wanted the legend. So you know, so you know what's sad is I believe that Jalen Catalan retired from football. Did he? Oh, really? I believe he officially retired from football because I, you know, out of L. in theory for now, for now, for now.
Starting point is 00:33:30 I mean, I'm sure he's suing the NCAA like everybody else is. He did retire. You know, but I think I think he is retired. Yes, yes. So poor one out for a summer scouting legend. And NFL, you know what I actually thought about the other day, Connor? We need to have like an NFLSC like ring of honor. Yeah, we do.
Starting point is 00:33:49 You know? Yeah. Well, we like induct one or two coaches, players, memes, whatever like every year. Yeah, exactly. He said, yeah. Who's the first ballot? Like the first class. Roy Lopez, Jalen Catalan,
Starting point is 00:34:07 definitely get a jacket in the first class. I mean, Audrey Guest to me and... Yeah, Audrey Guest to me. Probably three, we'd probably do three-man classes. Anything bigger or smaller wouldn't really work. Yeah, we'd probably run out of people if we just did work. I don't know, the chats reminding me that we wouldn't. Bullrush McIntyre.
Starting point is 00:34:23 Bull Rush McIntyre. Yes, dude. Yes. Yes. I think we need to do this. We need to have some sort of an NFLSC ring of honor. Yeah, AJ says Peter. Like Peter's got to go. Yeah, Peter's in. Yeah, Peter and Bryce got to go in there. Absolutely. That's unbelievable. The McPounders. This is a great. McPounder. There's actually a lot of candidates.
Starting point is 00:34:46 The meat fabric, the meat powder. Yeah. She said meat pounder. And look, I have another joke. coming up at pick 10 hypothetically look it's you know i mean oh man okay we need to get a jacket fitted for the meat pounder are you meat fabrics are look you know what a combination of nicknames Connor are you up at nine yeah i'm up at nine i'll make this brief um going to take carnell tate here as much as i really do like mansor delane here because he's so good in man coverage and it helps them start to build the secondary backup. But they've hit on some secondary players,
Starting point is 00:35:32 not just corners, but safeties later in drafts. Maybe they can keep that going with Spags. And with Tate, it gives them size at receiver that Mahomes. Besides Rishol, they've had all these small wide receivers. And Rice has not been reliable for a variety of reasons, as good as he is. So Tate would give you that true perimeter player for Mahomes. I do think that he is, he is the receiver for the chiefs.
Starting point is 00:36:01 Like when we talk about like, oh, there's, there's the top three guys, you know, Lemon, Tate, Tyson. I think there's a lot of pros and cons, a lot more pros in my opinion for all those guys, reasons to believe in them. If the chiefs are taking one, it's Carnell Tate. And I don't, I don't know if they take either of the other two, but if they're taking one here at number nine, it's definitely going to be Carnal Tate. Garrett, back on the clock. Yeah. Yeah, so I'm thinking I'm going to phone a friend in here because this is, this is, oh, right, actually, hold on, hold on, hold on, maybe not. I, I, I was debating on, like, do I, do I take a corner even though they're, they're kind of good, but you can never have enough good corners?
Starting point is 00:36:37 I'm going to, I'm going to really play this one safe here and just go, like, we're just running the ball. We're just, we're going to take Francis Maui Noah, and we're going to, we're going to, we're going to kick him inside. We're going to make sure that he really gets his carbs. He gets his, you know, the carloftest version of the Kansas, or of the, or of the. Cincinnati, we're going to get them like a double beef at Skyline. We're going to take care of it. Did you guys see the thing they had at the Reds opening day last week? No. No, but no, whatever. No, whatever was heinous if you were saying this because you're bringing up Skyline. This makes my day that I get to be the first to tell you. It was a chili dog on top of a piece of pizza. It just doesn't need to be done. It just does not need to be done.
Starting point is 00:37:20 And one of the replies was, one of the replies was, I love that Cincinnati just embraces the full on slop. There's no, there's no, like, it's just like, I'm right here. Imagine in your life, you're like, you're walking around the concourse and, like, you know, your friend asks, I, what are you in the mood for? And you're like, well, I'm really torn. I don't know if I want pizza or the chili dog. Oh, the chain is. That's, what is this? That's foul.
Starting point is 00:37:47 Number one, the cheese. What are you? Hold on. What are you doing here? Are you wrapping the pizza, like a almost like a calzone? Yes, yes. Like a chili dog calzone? Is that what we're doing here?
Starting point is 00:37:58 Oh, is it on the screen there. There it is. Shout out. How do you pick it up? That's what I'm asking. How do you pick this up? Oh. What are you doing here?
Starting point is 00:38:07 You see the problem, here's the problem. You really can't pick that up, but you cannot be eating that with a fork and knife at the ballpark. No. The ballpark is not a fork and knife territory. No. By the way, do you know that Mike Greenberg, each wings or the fork and knife that's i i just think if a restaurant sees you doing that they have the right to throw you out yeah i'm not full transparency whenever the wings come out like
Starting point is 00:38:32 steaming hot i will get a fork and like like cut into the cut into the wing like that way you can at least let the steam like flow maybe maybe i'm maybe i'm no that's that's fine you're just nah good show everybody i uh i i i appreciate it um you know charity all that stuff all that stuff All that stuff I said about following Garrett's channel. Don't do it. Don't do it. Look, look, I got it. I have some more things written down here that I have to.
Starting point is 00:38:58 Smoors, ice cream sandwiches and brownies. That was just a horrendous date, guys. I mean, look, smores, they're in elite food. Wait, what was the tape? Oh, was it a start bench cut? Yes, you guys cut. Smores is in the trash can out of those three. Yeah, I'm out.
Starting point is 00:39:12 That's bad. Smoors is a gimmick for children. Like, you get to make it. You get to, you know, obviously toast the marshmallow. it's not an actual high top like high tier dessert Brandon said send this man to safe way you the gulag of NFL SC is safe way
Starting point is 00:39:34 and you don't have a pistol you have three dollars no you just have the rock you have the rock that you throw at your friends wait what else was it what else what else read the list read It was Smoors, ice cream sandwiches and brownies, Skyline, Jalen Catalan. There was an NFL street thing a couple years ago.
Starting point is 00:39:56 I don't think D.K. Metcalf was mentioned. I thought he would be like an elite NFL street player. He might have been mentioned. I don't remember. I wrote down Trevor's ways to eat sunflower seeds, which I did when I was in 12-year-old year Little League. I did that. Then I evolved into actually like a nice young man
Starting point is 00:40:11 and split them with my, you know, sort of natural. See, Little League's the last time I played baseball. So that said that actually, that actually checks out for how he's, sunflower seeds. So, and then, and then just, I wrote down just, Wolf of Wall Street, just that, that applies for everything.
Starting point is 00:40:25 Every aspect of Wolf of Wall Street has made its way into this show. That's very true. Well, honestly, Wolf of Wall Street, the movie probably has to be in the NFLC ring of honor. I would, it might have to be, it might have to be first. It's a Caprio appearance on NFL SC. Yeah, just get to Caprio on for a co-lab mock draft, see how it goes.
Starting point is 00:40:41 So, no, but that was, that was the list that I had. I did come in. I did. You did. You proved, you, you proved your attic. status here. Yes, you proved your addiction. Well done, well done. Proved your addiction.
Starting point is 00:40:53 Am I? I have no idea where we are. I haven't even thought about it. Also may have contributed to a cold opening by not realizing that I was saying meat pounder out. Yeah, I was just, I was thinking of the pounders for the Panthers and then meat fabric and then combined them. So, you know, not thinking in real time. Yeah, and then the wing incident. The wing is just, the wing is just a cool off method.
Starting point is 00:41:16 Here's the thing I don't understand. Just order bones. If you're going to eat with a fork and knife. Welcome to the pod. Want to come mock draft with us? You'll get bullied by pick 11. Yeah, you barely made us with the top 10. Look like you've been through World War II.
Starting point is 00:41:32 Wait, hold on. Somebody in the chat give Garrett a redeemable start bench cut wing flavor suggestion that we could read so that he could have some wing redemption. I feel like you're at the poker table right now, doubling down. after losing me no you're putting Garrett like Garrett could just oh could lose again what if I'm looking out I mean dude no no no I'm looking for redemption here I I know the best wing flavor I mean I can tell you right now all right it I mean it's gonna be biased it's gonna be biased old bay old bay with ranch don't ever think it just
Starting point is 00:42:07 oh yeah look I'm from Maryland I have a Maryland right there I have the Maryland tattoo totally fine so yeah this checks out this checks out this checks out you know what you're back thank you're back it was it was it was it was it was it was it was It was a fine choice. Yeah, it was a good choice. It was a good choice. I remember Old Bay Wings reminds me of, I was in Pennsylvania one time because my wife's dad used to live in Pennsylvania. We visited him up there.
Starting point is 00:42:30 And I can't remember the sports bar. It was a chain sports bar that was up there. And I ordered, it was like, it was one of the first times that I was meeting my father-in-law. Oh, these are always scary. We had met before, but it was, you know, it was like at the beginning of everything. We went out to this place and I ordered 20. 20 winks and I ordered 20 old bay winks. There you go.
Starting point is 00:42:52 And my father-in-law told me this later. He was like, oh, cool. Like, he got everybody winks. And it was like, no, brother. I'm eating all 20. These are for me, big dog. These are for me, big dog. They're putting the plate in front of me.
Starting point is 00:43:09 This is my entree. So just wings? Yes. That was the manifestation of so just wings. They come out and put a bib on you? but not anyone else. Like the light they do at like red lobster. Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Starting point is 00:43:24 Oh, man. All right. Can we get back to the mock draft? Yeah, yeah, yeah. All right. We were pacing so well, now it's gone. Whatever. We were.
Starting point is 00:43:32 The Miami Dolphins here at 11. Well, in theory or what? In theory. Hmm. I think it has to be in the trenches. Oh. And I think it has to just be whoever I have ranked highest. Right. I mean, this team's so far away.
Starting point is 00:43:59 You are multiple years away. You don't even have your future quarterback in hand. All due respect to Malik Willis, who I think is getting, I understand, he signed the contract. I get it. He's a millionaire. I get it. He's getting the short end of the stick here because this is now, if you count the Titans, I wouldn't really count the Packers, but if you count the Titans, because that's where he got drafted, and then, of course, like this spot here from Miami.
Starting point is 00:44:21 Not exactly legitimate spots to prove if you're an NFL quarterback, given what the Titans roster was at the time when he had the ability to start and then what the dolphins are going to be over the next few years. So I do feel bad for him. But I'm going to take Spencer Fano here. I'm going to take Fano because I'm just going to take the best offensive linemen available. Jonas Savanaya right now is scheduled to start again at Left Guard. He was the worst graded guard in the NFL last year.
Starting point is 00:44:49 There's no guarantee to me that it's just going to miraculously get better with him. If it is great, I think Fano can have some long-term tackle flexibility for you. But to me, I'm just, I'm investing in the trenches one way or another. So I'm going offensive line here. And we can address, we can address corner. We can address a wide receiver. We can do all that stuff later.
Starting point is 00:45:08 Use your premium pick on a, on a trench player, offensive defense. So I'm going, I'm going Fana. Well, it makes life easier for me because Mansour Delane to the Cowboys feels like a dream in this spot. You get the best man cover corner in the draft, but he's good at everything. This is a spot where they need that number one shutdown. guy after all the bodies they've added up front to get after the quarterback and stop the run. There's not an offball linebacker that's worthy of this pick.
Starting point is 00:45:34 There absolutely is a corner and that is Mansour Delane. All right. Good that we're back on track with this one here. The Rams, they addressed corner by bringing in Jalen Watson traded for Trent McDuffie. Really love that, obviously, for several. I will say this before you make this pick. I believe Sean McVeigh said at the owners. meetings today that they did tell DeMonte Adams that they are shopping him.
Starting point is 00:46:01 Not to say that he's 100% getting traded, but that that has happened and they have made him aware of that. So just wanted to throw that out there before that's that's great chemistry because we're not only thinking the same thing, we're also low moving costs. We're going McKay Lemon. All right. I mean, it's the future at the position as well, not the future, but a future wide receiver two with the position good football player and i mean i know in theory you could have monroe freeling as a
Starting point is 00:46:32 future tackle to eventually replace warren mcclundon but i mean if we get a second super bowl this year i would imagine that mcky lemon's going to like have more of an impact than monroe freeling would and i think that the rams are in a position where you can say that the mckeye lemon selection would be a little short-sighted you could say that you could argue that but if they go to super bowls during Bay Stafford era, I think that that's one, I mean, it's one million percent worth it. Jordan said, I'm putting my grandma in a home if you even
Starting point is 00:47:04 suggest offensive tackle for the Rams. So grandma, be free. Be free. Yeah, live your best life out there. She's never been, she's never been more free than right now after that Mackay Lemon pick for the Rams at 13. Baltimore Ravens at 14. The extremely
Starting point is 00:47:21 obvious is Vega-Owane. Is there anyone else that I would even consider? I don't think you would consider, but I'll repeat it again. I think there's going to be Sadiq chatter here. Oh. Size and physicality is what they like. Yeah. Chatter. Not saying consensus. Scuttle butt, even. Scuttle butt. There you go. Yeah. There's going to be, there's going to be some scuttle butt about Kenyon Sadee. But Vago 1A, I like better. I will have ranked higher. Let's just keep it simple. We're going Vago 1A here to the, Baltimore Ravens to start opposite John Simpson, who is now back.
Starting point is 00:48:08 Second tour. Yeah, there we go. The Buccaroos here. Don't blow it. At 15. Boy, the world is really mine in this spot. Interesting. Well, you want to trade?
Starting point is 00:48:29 I would trade this pick because... No, I'm saying I could pick for the bucks at 15 and then you just pick for the Jets at 16. That's done. Hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, I got to agree to that. All right, okay, okay, all right, that's true. That's true, that's true. If we can three-way trade this where I get 18, then we can, let's just... All right, deal, sure.
Starting point is 00:48:49 Perfect, we'll do that. Yeah, people thought this was the Colab mock draft series. It's actually the collusion mock draft series. Yes, it always is. So the Buccaneers at 15, I think I'd take Messador. I was going to go with the same position, but I was considering Zion Young or Messador. Ooh, you take Zion Young at 15? I thought it was at least a combo between the two, yeah.
Starting point is 00:49:15 Okay. All right. I'm not that high on Zion Young, so I wouldn't have him in the same tier that I have messed up. But it's good. I like the differing opinion. I like the thought there. Garrett, real quick, just edge rushers that are left.
Starting point is 00:49:30 I think the obvious ones are off the board. Who's kind of your favorite of the guys that are left at Edge Rusher? So my favorite is Zion Young. I'm a big Zion guy. Oh, yes. But I do think. He's edge three for you as well? He is. Hold on, hold on. Let me pull up the actual ranking.
Starting point is 00:49:46 Well, if you count Reese, then no, but I didn't. He's edge three for me, not putting Reese in edge rankings. Oh, man. I have been Bailey, Bain. Yes. And Bailey and Bain are like, that's real close. And then a little bit of a drop off to Zion Young at three. Yes.
Starting point is 00:50:03 So funny story behind the scenes. I was looking at mock drafts a couple weeks ago. And I texted, and I had like Conner's one mock draft and one tab. and then I had somebody else's mock draft in another. I was looking at the other mock draft, thought it was Conor's, and they had Zion Young in the first round, and I was like, hell yes.
Starting point is 00:50:19 Like I think Zion's a top 20 player in the class, great mock. And then I realized it was like, oh, it's not even by Connor in the Texan. I'm like, sorry, like wrong, wrong mock draft. So it happens. But clearly he would, he could have agreed.
Starting point is 00:50:30 You could have played it off. Yeah. Typically I haven't gone to the Bears at 25, but yeah, this is a spot word. At least the door opens. Can I see the overall? overall board against, uh, chef.
Starting point is 00:50:45 Thank you, chef. If Mansour Delane was here, I'd like it. But him getting to 15 feels like that would be difficult at this point. I wouldn't take C.J. Allen over Mesidor. They need linebacker, but I wouldn't quite take Jacob Rod Rodriguez here. I did an exercise with the Peter Report guys a couple of days ago where we traded down from 15 and then got Jacob Rodriguez, like later in the first round. But, um, I'm going to go.
Starting point is 00:51:16 Messador, man. I thought about it here, but I think Messador is probably the best course of action. Actually, wait. Hit on due pick, Tyler. I'm taking Dillon Thineman. There you go. I was going to ask if that's on the table
Starting point is 00:51:38 here. Yeah, because he's going to be like a top 10 player for me. And if this is what I would do mock draft, I think Tykee Smith was awesome in the nickel. And right now I would put Dylan Theanman in the secondary with Antoine Winfield Jr. I would move Jacob Parrish to the outside. I moved Tyke Smith back to the nickel where he was fantastic two years ago. And then it's just Zion McCollum and Benjamin Morrison duking it out for that other spot at outside corner. If this is a true what we would do mock draft, that's actually what I would do if Dylan Theeneman made it to 15.
Starting point is 00:52:11 The most sick of a move of all time, Garrett. That is as far as we've gotten. because the button was clicked. Yeah. And yet I reeled you back in. That's why folks, you got to stay locked in the whole time that we're doing these episodes. You never know where it's going to go. So I had two players in play here at 16 for the Jets, and you just took one of them.
Starting point is 00:52:36 To me, it was between my 18th overall player in the draft, Dylan Thineman, and my 17th overall player in the draft, Omar Cooper Jr. So the top, the other three receivers are gone. Lemon went to the Rams at 13. We had the other two, and Tate and Tyson go top 10. And with Theeman gone, I am going to take Omar Cooper Jr. Get a yak threat here for the Jets. You're going to have Garrett Wilson and Omar Cooper Jr.
Starting point is 00:53:05 Splitting time inside and outside. Very different receivers in terms of what they could do with the ball in their hands. And I think, you know, obviously Garrett Wilson is the separator where Cooper Jr. is more dangerous after the catch. This is absolutely something the Jets need. And you feel pretty good once again about Garrett Wilson, Omar Cooper Jr. and Adonai Mitchell as Gino Smith's past catchers. All right.
Starting point is 00:53:25 Connor, I do have a question here. I want to preface. This is Jets related. I was going to ask on the 2026 Jets preview that I'll have this summer. But I mean, you're going to be a dad. Congratulations. I probably going to take a priority over the 2026 Jets team preview. I asked this in a non-phecisian.
Starting point is 00:53:43 way because I had to go through the nine memes and the Mac Brosmer memes last year and I'm not I was not born to be in the asylum you were raised in with all due respect Yeah, some out of there isn't it? Not everybody's built for Shawshank.
Starting point is 00:53:59 I was not born for that. I'm just going to be honest. I remember the crash out. I remember the crash out right before we did the fixing the Vikings episode where you were just crashing out about McCarthy. The 9 to 5 memes did not do well with you. We have nine.
Starting point is 00:54:14 We have nine and five nine now. There you go, baby. No, it's no, it's five nine and nine to five. That's what. So my question here again, non facetious. If you would rank like your five best Jets memories in the past 10 years, what would they actually be? And the reason I ask is because we're past 2015 now. Right.
Starting point is 00:54:34 That's why it's so hard. That takes away the Brandon Marshall fits year. Oh my God. I know what I would think. This is really hard. is it is is it the joy of drafting a certain player even if they didn't work out like is it like the sam darnald pick where you're just like we did it is it honestly it honestly like again non facetious non facetious is it the two minutes of aaron rogers carrying the flag out in the first three
Starting point is 00:55:00 dude that was that was that was electric that was electric and even if you pair the xavier gibson walk off punt return like yes rogers was toast by then but at least they walked off the game in a pretty insane way. So I think that whole thing somehow makes it, even though it was the beginning and end of Rogers' career pretty quickly with the Jets. Just go three. You got two more. One is definitely when they beat the Packers in Green Bay because of all the,
Starting point is 00:55:29 I think that made, that might have made them seven and four. And it was because of Brees Hall and Sauce Gardner. Like those guys were all really good. It just didn't work out around them. And sauce wore the cheesehead running around the stadium. That was awesome. That was up there and they beat Aaron Rogers, ironically, in that game.
Starting point is 00:55:47 Yeah, because that was, I think that made them seven and four, at least in that mold. And then probably something Mike White did. I mean, I can't think of many, like when Mike White came back to beat the Bengals, and I think he threw for like 400 yards, that might be it, honestly. You know, it's a sneaky one? Here's a sneaky one.
Starting point is 00:56:08 Okay. When they were tanking, they were about to beat the race. Raiders and Greg Williams called an all-out blitz, like cover zero. Oh, I remember me that. Instead of running prevent. And I think it was Henry Ruggs. It was. Caught a bomb to win the game, essentially, with no time left, to keep the tank rolling for the Jets.
Starting point is 00:56:30 It was like the hardest Jets fans have celebrated that as a walk-off loss. That's it. That, I think that's definitely top five. That encapsulates, I think, the entire reason why Garrett asked the question. Is that moment? making it on the list. Yes. Oh, yeah. I will say, I will say, as a Vikings fan, I did enjoy the sauce wearing the cheesehead,
Starting point is 00:56:50 given that he's from Detroit. Yeah, that was, that was awesome. That was, like, I'd frame that. For the Lions of 17, we're kind of like bouncing around a little bit here. So they're talking about moving. They're talking about moving Penae Sewell over to the left side. I think Dan Campbell said they would like to, but obviously they would have to find a right tackle that they feel pretty good about.
Starting point is 00:57:12 Is this Monroe Freeling? I think we could do like a little bit of a co-lab here between the three of us. I think about Akeem Messador who I think would be perfect for them. I think this is one of the spots that actually makes the most sense for Messador in the first round if you're going to find one. But certainly Monroe Freeling does as well with him making it all the way to 17. Do we feel like he's the pick here? Well, Trev, this is your pick. Why wouldn't you take your guy Blake Miller?
Starting point is 00:57:36 Well, we can. I was just, so I think Blake Miller, I have Blake Miller ranked higher. than Monroe Freeling. But I thought we would do more of a collaborative one here at 17. But if this is my pick, if we're going with it here, then I would take Blake Miller because he could play right away at right tackle for you if ideally they wanted to move Penne Sewell to left tackle. Yes, if I was making the pick solely myself, it would be Blake Miller.
Starting point is 00:58:01 But I was kind of setting it up to where I feel like I'm lower on Monroe Freeling than a lot of other people. Actually, Garrett, this is a good time to ask. How do you feel about Monroe Freeling? Where are you on him? I liked Monroe Freeling a month and a half ago when he was in that 28 to 35 to 40 range. Okay, we're in the same spot. Seemingly after the combine, it was like, oh, hey, flip of a coin, let's, like Monroe Freeling, yeah, guys, he's going at six to the Browns.
Starting point is 00:58:26 Don't think anything else. I am not the biggest fan of Monroe Freeling at six. With the Lions here at 17, I think that's more palatable. I would be fine with Akeemezidore as well, given the loss of Alcadine Muhammad. and they have really never had a legit opposite rusher of Aidan Hutchins. They tried the Marcus Davenport experience, which is not a good experience. And I would be fine with Monroe Freeling,
Starting point is 00:58:51 Blake Miller, or Akeemezador for all of the aforementioned reasons. Even Keldrick Falk, I think, would be a good fit for the Lions. I think that's a player that Dan Campbell would actually love. I'm going to take Blake Miller then. Let's take Blake Miller at 17. Here, give him the right tackle, and then they can move Penny stool with the left tackle, which it sounds like.
Starting point is 00:59:09 they want to do. And then Garrett, you're up here with the Vikings in a Marine team. I'm up, baby. Cinema. So there's, there's, I mean, look, I'm really passionate about the Vikings, a passion about food, passion about football. And, and, look, I thought about this one, like, for hours today, like, what am I going to do? So I was like, you know, let's get in the mind of, like a Greg Jennings, get in the mind of like a Rob Brasinski, you know, like a, boop. And pick 23 would be Trevor with the Eagles. Um, so, Howie Roseman? Trevor. How's Fat Dom? How we doing how's the family um look are you really going to roll into the season with nolan smith and jaylick son at edge and think you're good i mean i got jonathan grenard for you if you're if you're interested
Starting point is 00:59:46 and pick 18 for jalen carter where where where do we stand this is what we would do mock draft so yeah i'm i'm i came firing i came firing jelan car jelan carter for jonathan grunard and pick 18 where where do we stand so oh wow yeah that's a wild thing to just drop on somebody you've been thinking about this for weeks I've been thinking about it for mere seconds right you've lived in this well this comes down to like if the Eagles are not planning on extending Jalen Carter
Starting point is 01:00:17 then this is a great deal for them but if they believe in giving him an extension and that he'd be okay after paying him then you're never trading a player of his caliber so it's one of those like going back to the cop out of medicals this is absolutely one of those situations
Starting point is 01:00:33 where they know the, if they traded Jalen Carter to the Vikings, I would be terrified for the Vikings. That's fair. That is fair. I mean, they were the only team that was willing to take him obviously in the top ten. He wasn't the ninth best player in that draft. I don't think that we can do this as much as I would like to because it would make the mock very fun. The issue with Carter is he's one of those curious cases where if you believe, if you believe, believe in him, like you don't trade him.
Starting point is 01:01:05 Like he's like he's just not available. You don't really have conversations about him. But if he is available, then his price tag probably doesn't equal the talent because why would he be available? Right. Like that's that's so it's it's it's it's,
Starting point is 01:01:21 it's one of those really, really tricky trades because we sort of heard what was it a couple of weeks ago. I can't remember who who reported it first, but it was it was so I don't want to necessarily like give somebody credit or throw somebody under the bus, however you view it. Like, there was the report that Jalen Carter was potentially on the block for the Eagles, and then it was like, no, no, no, no, no, no, we're not trading him. And then somebody, like, said a couple of days later, like, yeah, they might be trading
Starting point is 01:01:47 them. I know kind of what came out after that, but there might be some, some whispers and rumblings. And it's one of those, that is one of those situations where the Eagles were, the Eagles could have very well been doing this behind the scenes. Of course. And then if it goes public and everyone freaks out about it, they have to put out the fire. They have to be like, no, no, no, no. We were never doing anything like that.
Starting point is 01:02:14 When in reality, they could have very well been doing exactly that. So it's an interesting conversation piece. I don't think I could agree to that trade right now. No, that's fair. That was one where I was like I was, I knew I was coming in. Let's just like, we're just. I love it. I love the creativity. I love the idea. I always love conversations about stuff like this.
Starting point is 01:02:36 In all seriousness, Emmanuel McNeworman would probably be the pick. There's a conversation. Kenyon Sadiq, the Vikings tight ends are not good. T.J. Hawkinson, not the same player post-ACL tear, unfortunately. He just simply does not break tackles at all. And there's also a conversation where Kenyon Sadiq would be the guy that Kyler Murray throws too short in, you know, within five or ten yards the line of scrimmage. It'd be good for him to, it'd be a good situation for Kenyon Sadiq. And then, of course, with Jefferson and Addison, both on the field at the same time. But Emmanuel McNeil Warren would probably be the pick, even if Harrison Smith does come back,
Starting point is 01:03:14 which he hasn't technically retired. I don't think a 37-year-old Harrison Smith is going to prevent the Vikings from drafting Emmanuel McNeil Warren. All right. I think I'm actually back up. To reset us? Yes. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. And this, and this is good anyways.
Starting point is 01:03:33 We have you on the Kolad Mock draft series to hear more of your analysis. Football analysis, even. Would you guys should go follow the channel if you're watching right now? Are you football analysis? Yeah. Like people in the grocery store are like, what the hell is that in action? Your parents named you football in their last, your long-running family name is analysis. Have you seen the commercial of the parents who like sell the name, like the kids naming rights?
Starting point is 01:03:59 It's so good. That's essentially what Garrett is doing here. is that he's he's selling his naming rights to the YouTube channel that he's trying to to grow. So he legally changed his name to football analysis. Like Chad Ochosinko, but just with, you know,
Starting point is 01:04:15 I'm just, right analysis, the whole thing. Correct. Right. All right. We're back up or I'm back up. They lost Cade May's big loss,
Starting point is 01:04:23 but as much as I like the center class on day two, not a big fan of center at 19, where I'm going to go. is Kenyon Sadiq. I think he's the talent is simply too much to ignore. There is conversation about Omar Cooper Jr. at pick 19 with the Panthers. Then you'd be in the conversation of do we take a receiver third year in a row with Xavier Leggette, Tetero McMillan, and then Omar Cooper, obviously Xavier Liget has not worked out the way that they would have hoped for in the first couple of years. But I do think Kenyon Sadiq is one of probably seven to 10 players in this class
Starting point is 01:04:55 that I feel comfortable enough high floor where I can say draft a good football player, don't overthink it and I think Bryce Young would absolutely or I think that that would be a tremendous target for Bryce Young. Yeah, it kind of comes down to how they view Jutavian Sanders, right? If they're totally out on Jetavian Sanders at this point, I could absolutely see Kenyon Cidipin on the board for them at number 19. So this is me then with the Cowboys? I think it's me. I believe so. Yeah, let's do the Cowboys here. Number 20, Mansour Delane, went 12 for them. I think CJ Allen could make sense for them, as I believe Jacob Rodriguez could,
Starting point is 01:05:37 if you believe that he is going this high. I'm not so sure. To be honest with you, I have no idea. I don't know if either of these guys are going this high, but if you want a linebacker, those are probably the only two that you're thinking about there. The three safeties are gone. You have Quinn and Williams, you got Kenny Clark.
Starting point is 01:06:04 And if it's not linebacker, it gets kind of interesting for this team. Oh, the Viking just picked up Jordan Addison's fifth year option, baby. Let's go. Oh, okay. So he's sticking around. There we go. I don't, they wouldn't go another corner.
Starting point is 01:06:19 Man, it's, I don't think they'd go Messador. I don't know if they would go Falk either. I would never put it past Jerry to take Falk. Yeah, Jerry might take Falk. But this is your pick. This is not. You and Jerry Jones, contrary to the popular. belief do not share the same brain no we do not thankfully and this is he's stuck folks tougher than i
Starting point is 01:06:55 thought it would be there's a couple picks every mock where it's just you just get to it you're just like who this is where where do we go because they trade they trade osa i think because they want bigger defensive linemen so i think there's a world where kaden proctor could sort of be on their mind here. McDonald's or Proctor? Sorry. Caden McDonald. Thank you.
Starting point is 01:07:27 You could go Caden Proctor here. It might be a little early. They're right next to each other in the simulator too. So that was very confusing. Yeah, yeah. What I meant to say was Caleb Proctor, the South Eastern Louisiana defensive tackle. Good player, by the way. I'm going to go.
Starting point is 01:07:45 I'm just, I'm, I'm going to go see Jay Allen. I think I'm going to just have C.J. Allen ranked ahead of Caden McDonald. Kind of comes down to one of those two guys at this point for Dallas. There's nobody else who's really jumping out at me. Obviously, everybody knows that I've got J. Van McCoy and a key Mesa door ranked higher. But for this team, would that make sense at this point? Probably not. So C.J. Allen at 20, who I think the speed, you know, like reactions from him,
Starting point is 01:08:17 at the pro day are overblown i think that he's inconsistent he just he just faded away all right well he went with cj allen to the cowboys we'll keep it moving while we try to get him back in oh there he is oh whoa was that my internet yeah you just you just zapped out me and garrett were looking at each other like worried that we were both the ones fading out yeah cj hallin i saw connor said moving i was like yeah jerry jones didn't like the pick and he was like hey get this joker off the screen oh man all right stealers at 21 i am not taking tyson Simpson here. It's just too early for me. Speaking of NFL SC like Hall of Famers, what's McCarthy up to with the,
Starting point is 01:08:57 with the simulator here? He doesn't grade the drafts anymore. He has to coach the team. We haven't decided. Now Quessie does it. That's a good one. It is Questi's job. I wonder how those would grade out. Quessie absolutely is grading. Not very well for us. Wilfred said Big Tux attack. Yeah, Big Tux did did take me out there. Yeah. They are, uh, They are on to us. So, okay. Steelers at 21, not taking Ty Simpson too early.
Starting point is 01:09:24 He's not my top 30 players. I feel like this is kind of funny. I have two thought processes here, right? Talent being Jermad McCoy, although this is a team right now that they have Joey Porter Jr., Jamel Dean. They have a lot of guys at Corner. That's what's interesting about them.
Starting point is 01:09:48 like Brandon Eccles is still on this team. Asante Samuel Jr. is on this team. They just have a lot of guys at corner. Or where I was more leaning was because there's not a receiver I love in this spot with all the four being gone, the top four being gone. I was also leaning Monroe Freeling,
Starting point is 01:10:09 which is kind of funny to draft the Georgia tackle to replace the Georgia tackle that hasn't worked yet. Right. But you can't think like that in drafts. So either him or Proctor, just because the fact is, Broderick just hasn't been good enough.
Starting point is 01:10:26 And that can't work if Rogers is coming back. You cannot have a below average player, a tackle, because Rogers can't move anymore. So it's kind of a weird one for me where I feel like I'm just going to take Freeling or Proctor in this spot and start to potentially move on from Broderick. What do you think, Garrett, in this spot for the Steelers?
Starting point is 01:10:50 So love the pairing with Freeling going to the Steelers. The Steelers have five top 100 picks. I've actually mocked a trade up with them going to pick 15 to the bucks to trade in front of the lions, specifically with the idea in mind to go get Monroe Freeling. So I've mocked them trading up to 15. So to get Monroe Freeling, so to get him at 21, I think it's tremendous value. I love it. So here's why I included a tremendous process, rather.
Starting point is 01:11:15 Proctor in the combo. Alex makes a good point in the chat that I was kind of thinking. Proctor would be a good fit because he could play guard if they still have hope in Jones. So you do get a little bit of both there where Proctor could start on a line with Project Jones if you still believe in Jones's development. So this is tricky. I'm going to take Proctor and go with that philosophy because it upgrades your offensive line no matter what. Like Freeling is not playing guard, obviously. That's not.
Starting point is 01:11:46 No. That's not even in the conversation. So I'll go Proctor here. And I think he starts out. He stays on the left side, but maybe he could start out at left guard. And if Jones just bottoms out after one more year, then Proctor goes back to his spot of tackle. But he might be a better guard than tackle, to be honest with you. Garrett, you're up at 22 for the Chargers.
Starting point is 01:12:08 Dude, this is another tough one here. All right. Uh, might have, might phone a friend in here. Just group think on this one. The receiver's gone. also would not like love the process of QJ and 23 lad at the top of round two and then Trey Harris last year. So there, I mean, I think Quentin Johnson's a better player than what the consensus view on him is. I think there's just this kind of consensus view that he's like,
Starting point is 01:12:34 like Charles Rogers like 20 years later when he's in fact a fine player. But there's not a, I mean, guys, you see a, a player here. There's one I have in mind, but is there anybody that you think is a great pick here where it's just screaming off. Like, this, this has to be a charger. I don't think so. Well, what didn't work out in our favor here is that, rightfully so, a lot of the top guards are gone. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:13:02 Like, athletically, Fano is the perfect player for this team. He's long gone. I mean, some people think Emmanuel Pregnan could go this high at 22. And so, like, he, if you think that he is worth it, then, yeah. I like pregnant on a lot. I don't think he's going in the first. round. I don't think I would take him in the first round, but I think he's a good player.
Starting point is 01:13:22 Yeah, he is. So, yeah, I mean, Cade McDonald is somebody that I think about. Yeah, I love that. Keldrick Falk, you could, but I think I like Cade McDonald just schematically for this team. I think he's just the nose tackle that they're looking for. I was disappointed, but Jamari Caldwell and your one for what I thought he was going to be. But you're right.
Starting point is 01:13:41 Yeah, like, it's not, he's not stopping you from taking a better. player here. Let's go. Let's go, Caden McDonald. Let's go Caden MacDonald. All right, Caden McDonald, 22. For the Eagles at 23, this is what we would do mock draft. I would take Max Eonature here for the Philadelphia Eagles. I have Eonature just slightly ranked ahead of Monroe Freeling. I like the idea of drafting him, allowing him to develop. You've got Jordan Milata. You have Lane Johnson. Lane Johnson has missed time, but you're getting a guy who's a legitimate future type of a player for you at one of those offensive tackle spots, to me, is smart. I mean, they have some notable names as guys who are waiting in the wings,
Starting point is 01:14:27 like Cam Williams is on this team, Miles Sentence on this team, Holland Pierce is on this team. So these are a lot of sort of like fan favorites throughout draft class over the last couple of years. But none of them, in my opinion, are legitimate next in line type of starting offensive tackles. I think those guys were just flyers to take and maybe they developed. But Janature is a different story to me. So, yeah, I like Yanature here. And this is the direction that I would go to make sure that the trenches don't have a major drop off. If Lane gets hurt again or if he isn't playing football much longer.
Starting point is 01:14:57 Well, this worked out for me because Maro Freeling made it to 24 to the Browns. When he's in the combo a lot of times in the top 10, we haven't really been a big fan of that. But I'm okay with this at 24 to take an ascending true left tackle prospect. You get the guy that I believe is going to be their number, number one receiver. and Jordan Tyson, and now you get a left tackle, and this offensive line looks rebuilt. So Monroe Freeling at 24 of the Browns. Garrett, 25, Chicago Bears.
Starting point is 01:15:27 Monroe Free League at 24 is awesome. No, that's good. That's a tremendous haul. With the bears up here, we need pass rush. I'm going, you know what, it's what I would do? I'm going with my board. Zion Young is the heck of the team. All right.
Starting point is 01:15:45 There we go. Do it. Hell, yeah. Go for it. Really good player. Upgrade, floor razor. I like him a lot. I love it.
Starting point is 01:15:53 Any thoughts on linebacker there for the Chicago Bears at all with, I don't, I actually don't know who is next for you. Like is C.J. Allen after Sunny Stiles? Is Jacob Rodriguez after him? You know, do you like, I don't know a lot of people like Anthony Hill Jr. is a name that the chat will shout out a lot of times. Like, who's next at linebacker for you and do you consider any of them? So it's sunny, and I'm not going to, like, Arvel's kind of, you know, that's, sure, sure.
Starting point is 01:16:20 So it's sunny and then it's tier two, I would say is C.J. Allen, Jacob Rodriguez, Anthony Hill. Kyle Lewis is, I mean, dude, he's, he's really good. I think he's. I love Kyle Lewis. Yeah, I love Kyle Lewis. I think he's an ascending player. And then I would say tier three right below. I don't think that there's that much of a gap. I do think there's a little bit of a gap would be like Jake O'Day, Josiah Trotter, and then after that is kind of like, everybody else. But I would prefer Zion Young to either Jacob Rodriguez or Anthony Hill at at pick 25. So for the bills at 26, two players I'm thinking about here. I'm thinking about Jacob Rodriguez or I'm thinking about Christian Miller, who Christian Miller is my DT1 in this class, not to spoil the defensive tackle episode that we have coming up for you on Wednesday.
Starting point is 01:17:06 Well, there goes. He's the player that, yep, don't have to watch, I guess. He's the player that I think just has such a high floor. I love what he's able to do in run defense. And with the bills switching to more of an odd front defense, yeah, Dionne Walker, excuse me, has the overall size and length. But he's too big, I think, to be able to play nose. Like, he doesn't have great pad level. I think he's much more of like a four-eye type of a defensive end
Starting point is 01:17:35 in an odd front than he is a nose tackle. You can't play Ed Oliver at the nose. So you need to pick up a nose tackle no matter. what, but I do think that you can get one of those guys a little bit later in the draft for as much as I like Christian Miller. Let's go with Jacob Rodriguez here, because I think that Rodriguez gives you really good playmaking ability, sort of in all facets. He's a little bit smaller of a linebacker. There's a little bit of a strength concern with him just overall because he is of smaller stature, but the playmaking ability, the guy has the turnovers that he was able to create,
Starting point is 01:18:05 the elite run defender, elite coverage player, one of the highest defensive players that we graded at PFF over the last year. And I think that they do. need another linebacker at that second level that they can rely upon. So let's go Jacob Rodriguez, who I think put himself in this conversation with how he tested at the combine and showed what kind of an athlete he is. Niners at 27, a lot of options here. I mean, this is, it's hard to go wrong in this spot. Number one, they're hoping to have obviously a healthy Michael Williams and Nick Bosa this year.
Starting point is 01:18:38 But if this is a defense that if they still keep taking at drushers, nobody should be surprised where, you know, you look at Messador in this range. They have veterans at wide receiver outside of Ricky Pearsall because they have Mike Evans and Christian Kirk, but I would be talking about Denzel Boston in this spot. And then the last one, which is probably where I'm going to go, man, like, if he's healthy, how do you not take Jermad McCoy this late for this team? This team could really use that number one cornerback that is big, can play man coverage can run, has ball skills. So for me, I would just take what I think is the highest
Starting point is 01:19:19 end talent in this spot and then try to supplement those other two rooms, pass rusher and wide receiver and eventually O-line deeper into this draft. So because McCoy fell, it's just hard for me to pass on him at 27, man. That's like you're getting almost to the second round in Tramon McCoy's sitting here. Yeah, I mean, if you, if you can confidently say, yeah, this guy's knee is going to be good to go. This is massive value for him at number 27. I just think his range is all over the place. All over.
Starting point is 01:19:46 You know, like Jordan Tyson's is, right, just depending on how his teams see that injury. But I think he's a scheme fit. I think he's somebody who could be a number one corner for you. And he can give you a lot of flexibility in the type of coverage that the Niners play when you have that caliber of a player.
Starting point is 01:20:00 So Garrett, you're on the board here for the Houston Texans. So I prefaced this pick whenever I do mock drafts before with the Texans, it's like, you know, for the Texans, fan base it's like you get to the end of round one jadarian price whatever you think of him i i don't think is is worth the 28th overall pick and then you get into the mike washington's and the joanacolman's and everybody else it's like i mean i'm not doing that in round one and then you look at they could
Starting point is 01:20:25 use interior offensive lines specifically center i mean that's you know do you go i mean center's not valued here a manual pregnon you could definitely talk yourself into that one but um in a mock of what we would do i'm a big peter woods guy i like i like peter woods a lot And that would be when you can have a pass rushing trio of Peter Woods, Will Anderson, DeNeal Hunter, I mean, we've watched the playoffs the past couple of years. And it's not a coincidence that the Seahawks and Eagles won the Super Bowl in the manner they did. And then even, I mean, the Patriots beating the hell out of Justin Herbert in the wild card round for reference. Trenches ultimately win games.
Starting point is 01:21:03 I don't think drafting a good defensive tackle when Peter Woods is, or I don't think it should be. viewed as a bad selection in any way. I like Peter Woods. I know there's some people that are not Peter Woods fans, but I like them. We'll talk about this a little bit more on the defensive tackle episode that we have on Wednesday. But Brett Coleman talked about this. I think it was on our last Blue Chip committee episode.
Starting point is 01:21:27 Of one of the places that you could at least be like, okay, I get it with Peter Woods as a potential first rounder is in Houston because of how attacking that defensive line is, how so much attention has to be paid to the edge rushers there with Daniel Hunter and Will Anderson. Peter Wood is going to have a lot more one-on-one situations and he's going to be able to pin his ears back. So if you believe in Peter Wood, you can't ask for a better situation than I think the one that Houston would be able to give him. Chiefs at 29. Who would pick it number nine? Who would go with the nine? Oh, it's Carno Tate. Okay. I'm going to take a Keem Messador here.
Starting point is 01:22:03 I can't remember the last time I did a mock draft where Messador lasted this long, but this absolutely, you know, fits the label of you need a win now type of a pass rusher and Akeem Messador is exactly that. He's a little bit different than the types of edge rushers that they have, but I say that in a really good way because right now it's George Carlophtis, it's Ashen Gelati, it's Felix Sanudegu Azama, and that's kind of it for them there. I think Messador is immediately a starter for this team. He is one of the better pass rushers that they've got on this defensive line, especially the ones that are going to play on the edge.
Starting point is 01:22:41 And so I think that he, people look at like him versus Bain, and because he's like a little bit smaller than Bain, I think that people think that Mestore is sometimes smaller than he is. He's still like 6'3, 260, 265. So this is still one of the bigger edge rushers with him. You used to play defensive tackle, and now he plays on the edge.
Starting point is 01:23:00 But one of the deepest pass rush bags of any pass rusher. And again, for a, he's not going to be for every team in the first round. in my opinion he certainly would be for kansas city at number 29 dolphins at 30 Trevor i think you had them take spencer fano with their first pick but i did indeed yeah it's a really nice piece for their offensive line and you know they got the green bay regime now over there uh for me this is two players right here with one being colton hood man corner explosive fast a little bigger than a von terell not that much bigger, but bigger and faster, in my opinion.
Starting point is 01:23:37 But the direction I'm going to go for the Dolphins is Denzel Boston at wide receiver. I mean, this wide receiver room right now, guys, is 2-2-at-well, Jalen Tolbert, Malik Washington. Malik Willis has to have somebody with size that can play in tight windows and above the rim. And when the play breaks down, go up and win the football. You can't trot out this receiver room. And you don't have a tight end that's going to change the past game either. It's just you can't go into the year for Malik Willis like that. You can't do it.
Starting point is 01:24:16 And I understand there's a lot of people here that would like Concepcion, who's a good separator. But I need size at pass catcher. This has to be Boston for me. I like the Boston pick. Garrett, any thoughts on Boston? Because there's a question in the chat I wanted to answer about Messador, actually. No, I agree. and I'm releasing a video tomorrow that kind of breaks that down a little bit where it's like,
Starting point is 01:24:38 I like the Waddle trade and I like what the dolphins received. I like the player the Broncos received. But there's also a part of it where Malik Willis is a huge loser from the trade because of what that represents. So I do like the Denzel Boston pick here. Matt was asking about Akeem Esoterre said, why did Akeem just finally break out at age 24 and 25? Good players don't take six years in college to develop. Very true. but he was an interior defensive line recruit.
Starting point is 01:25:05 He played defensive tackle his first year at West Virginia. Then he played nose tackle West Virginia. Transfers over to Miami basically played either DT or a four eye defensive end for the last two years. And then just continue to lose a little bit more weight and then going into this past year. I mean, Jason Taylor said this himself. That's their coach at Miami. He said that Akeem was sort of like a late day three, maybe undrafted free agent type of a player going into this year. he said that the work that Akeem put in to be an edge rusher now really hone in and make sure
Starting point is 01:25:38 that the conditioning was what it needed to be, that he got down to the right weight level, that he was super explosive, that the hand usage and the pass rush playing and everything was so much there for him. People look at him and go, well, how did how come it took five or six years for him to break out? He's only been playing edge rusher for the last two years. Right. That's the position that he broke out it.
Starting point is 01:25:58 So I think when you take the full context, it's a lot easier to recognize. hey, yeah, this guy stayed in college for a long time because he straight up wasn't going to be an NFL player when they were using him as a nose tackle and a defensive tackle. But he loses weight. He still has that strength. Now he's got the explosiveness. And now his past rush moves are extremely clean.
Starting point is 01:26:19 And now we've got a prospect that we're talking about as a top 50 type of a player. So that's the context there. Okay. Garrett, you're on the clock, I believe, with the Patriot 3rd. to 31. So everything that Connor just said about needing a receiver with size, I know they have Matt Collins, who's not a small, he's not a small receiver. I would have taken Denzel Boston with, with this pick and have Romeo Dobbs, Kishan Booty, and Denzel Boston. Tough spot for
Starting point is 01:26:47 the Patriots here. I think I'm leaning T.J. Parker. That's, I mean, T.J. Parker to me compares to Bradley Chub, or at least that's my pro comparison for him. He's a player that obviously had a better 2024 than 2025 unfortunately that was kind of the theme of clemson this past year and honestly pen state for that matter as well but i think t j parker is a player that you could have in those in those true pass rushing situation those those dpr situations and i think that he would be a player that as the season progressed in year one obviously in year two and year three would become a lot better player but whenever the patriots would be in those meaningful games week 15 week 16 and then ultimately into what would be the wild card in the division
Starting point is 01:27:29 around of the playoffs next year. You'd like to have of course T.J. Parker, Harold Landry, Dremont Jones, and hopefully Braden Swinson. I liked him a lot last year. But I think that that would be a player that, I mean, excuse me, the players the Patriots currently have, I don't think, prevents you from taking T.J. Parker at the end of round one. Well, my good? Thought I lost you guys again. No, we have you still.
Starting point is 01:27:55 Okay. All right, all right, right. So I'm up with the Seahawks now at 32. Ooh, kind of an extreme luxury pick here, huh? I'm not going to lie, I'm tempted to pick offensive tackle here. I like Abraham Lucas a lot, but this past year he played 17 games, obviously, well, in the regular season, then he was able to play on the Super Bowl run, which is great. But he played six and seven in each of the two previous seasons. Do you worry about his long-term health, especially with Caleb Lomo on the board?
Starting point is 01:28:30 I wouldn't force offensive tackle, but I am thinking about that here. I'm also, I know they have Tori Horton and they have your Ricky White, but I think about Casey Concepcion with him on the board. I think about that one as well. Man, what's the ultimate? Can I see the overall board, Tyler? People are saying Terrell and like, I like Terrell. I like the Angelo Pond.
Starting point is 01:29:06 but does it get totally redundant with them having Witherspoon bringing back Job having you manwari Why wouldn't they just go hood if they needed an actual corner? Like a true cover corner on the outside? Well, because Terrell and Pons are better. But, you know, it's neither here nor there. Oh, all right. You said you wouldn't take Pons and Torel because they already have that player. Well, no, I think that just the secondary.
Starting point is 01:29:39 overall. Oh, okay. So you don't think they want to add to the secondary. No, I don't really, I think every time that I've given, you know, Averyon Terrell or D'Anne to the Seahawks, like people will be like, oh, they're all so small. And I don't, I don't really care about that just personally, just because I think that they're good corners.
Starting point is 01:29:55 So I'm not really too worried about that. I would care eventually. Like, I would care, depending on what team I am, if I already was playing a small corner, I wouldn't draft another small corner because eventually, like, you're just going to run into matchup problems in the NFL. big is you have a how big is joke 511 180 okay so he's smaller as well i don't know man i just think that they're better players whatever i'm not taking a corner here um i'll take it's another way to get pregnon into the first round yeah i might take bassantis over pregnon yeah either one
Starting point is 01:30:36 that chat is screaming for price for who jedarian price which is so funny I put Price there in a written mock draft and got the exact opposite feedback. People didn't like it at all, which I don't think it's crazy. I think Price could be a superstar. I really do. You know what? You lost boy Amafé. I'll take Cassius Howl.
Starting point is 01:31:09 Yeah, give me Cassius. Chaos creator. Yeah, just, and he is. That's exactly what he is as a player. Oh, we forgot to do the second round. that's my fault. I forgot to tell you to click the second round. So the Raiders, how do we feel about the Raiders? What would we, what would we do here for the Raiders at the top of the second round?
Starting point is 01:31:27 Garrett, I'll kind of, I'll kind of lean on you for what you think about this Raiders team. And obviously they're taken, they're taking Fernando Mendoza at the very top. But any thoughts on other positions that you would love to see them address there at the top of the second round? So I would love in the second round. and again, I go back to, like, we have to assume the medicals check out reasonably, of course. But I would really like the idea of them drafting a player like Chris Bell. I'm a big Chris Bell guy, and I'm very much like, hey, let's help out Fernanda Mendoza truly as much as possible. I'm not giving up on Jack Bess after year one.
Starting point is 01:32:06 The whole disconnect last year between Pete Carroll and then John Spitech of like, hey, I'm not going to play rookies because I'm Pete Carroll and all of that. I'm not giving up on Jack Besh and the player he was coming out of TCU. But I do think that Chris Bell would really compliment Jalen Naylor, Jack Besh, and Trey Tucker. And I think that he would bring a skill set to the table that the Raiders currently do not have and also open up the offense over the top. And then, of course, you'd have Ashton Genti and Brock Bowers as well. I think that if Casey Concepcion is on the board, I think you think about him as well with what you just mentioned, a wide receiver.
Starting point is 01:32:39 Somebody in the chat shouted out, hey, they definitely need a nose tackle with them, switching to more of a three-fourth. So if Christian Miller is available, I think that you think about him, because he is somebody who could be a really solid nose tackle option for them. But yeah, I agree. Connor, any other suggestions than the ones that we just made there for the Raiders?
Starting point is 01:32:57 Yeah, the three names that popped in my head immediately to that pick would be Jeremy Bernard from Alabama. The thing with Mendoza is that would be interesting with Bell. Is Bell is really good on those like shallow crossers and, you know, making explosive plays after the catch. Well, we saw Mendoza thriving with Indiana was guys that are so precise in their timing and their smarts to get to the sticks. We saw that with Surratt a lot. I wonder if Bernard can be that guy for him because I think Bernard was that guy for Simpson.
Starting point is 01:33:26 When Simpson was going through a really, really downstretched, Bernard was the only guy catching the football making plays. Colton Hood, if you want to just get better at corner, I'll keep harping on that one. Hood's a really, really good player, especially in man coverage. And then my third, I had a third one. Oh, you guys said Christian Miller. That was my third one. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Christian Miller is like such a meat and potatoes pick for a team that needs more meat and potatoes
Starting point is 01:33:49 kinds of picks. Like I know exactly what I'm getting. We're tougher. We're stronger. And we feel really good about that spot for a while. Last one. Ryan in the chat's yelling at us. Garrett, who are the Falcons taking?
Starting point is 01:34:00 So the Falcons are taking here in the middle of the second round. So just any thoughts overall on sort of like where the Falcons are, the roster, maybe some options for them. I think wide receiver, you know, like Chris Bell, like you mentioned, Jeremy Bernard, Elijah Surat. I think those guys are options for them as well because it's basically Drake London and that's kind of it for them.
Starting point is 01:34:18 But any other thoughts on the Falcons before we get out of here? I would agree with the receiver. There's also a question of defensive line. And the biggest thing is who's going to fall there because there's going to be questions about Caleb Banks and the injury. And that's going to be the big one.
Starting point is 01:34:33 Is this or the Falcons going to take a player with Caleb Banks's injuries? And I don't think Christian Miller is going to fall that far. Lee Hunter is a player that could absolutely fall there. But then I think there's, there's a bit of a gap between Lee Hunter and then kind of the next batch of guys, the Daryl Jackson's, the big citruses, the Grayson Haltons. And I wouldn't want to take anybody past Lee Hunter in the middle of the second round,
Starting point is 01:34:54 especially considering that's their first pick in this draft. Gotcha. All right, folks, there it is. Another co-lab mock draft in the books. Garrett, thank you so much, man. This is a ton of fun. We really enjoyed it. We appreciate the walk down memory lane with a lot of the references that you had for the show.
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Starting point is 01:35:51 and to come back and hang out with us for the defensive tackle episode, which we have coming up on Wednesday. But Garrett, thank you so much, man. We really enjoyed this one. I know it's a big chunkier day to do an hour and a half long mock track here with us, but we appreciate it, brother. No, I appreciate it. And a little spoiler, you guys spoiled to the defensive tackle show.
Starting point is 01:36:11 Trevor is actually going to be on the channel this later this week as well. So there's going to be some, some even more collab content coming up soon. Hell yeah, brother. Hell yeah, man. The Meat Pounder CoLab series. It is. It is indeed.
Starting point is 01:36:25 Connor, anything else before we get out of here? A huge thank you to Garrett. I can't emphasize enough. Go subscribe to his football analysis channel, which is an absolute mammoth in the space, but he's a good friend of the show as well. So really appreciate you jumping on.
Starting point is 01:36:39 We know these are a beast that take on and a lot of fun today. a lot of different picks, which is the goal of this. And we'll be back Wednesday for the defensive tackles. We will get to all of the super chats in the mailbag episode that we will have on Friday. We'll go through and we'll record the answers to all the super chats that you guys had here on this show. And that will be in the Friday mailbag episode that you guys can see later in the week. For the chef, behind the scenes, making it all happen. For Garrett, for Connor.
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