NFL Stock Exchange: An NFL Draft Podcast - NFL Trivia: Are You Smarter Than ESPN? (w/ Ben Solak)

Episode Date: June 2, 2026

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I went with Hertz, and I know everyone's going to hate it. Oh, yeah, hell, yeah. I had a purpose before everybody had an opinion. I know y'all liked that one. I'm just going to get out of the screen real quick for the clip. No matter what. I could leave, too. I'm not buckled into this chair, and I'm not coming back.

Fraternity leave starts now, even if the kid's here or not. Guess what, partner? You're arriving today. Of the NFL Stock Exchange Show, Trevor Sykima and our good friend Benjamin Solac. here with you guys for a trivia episode of the show. We're going to have a good time here on this program as Ben and I are teaming up against the chats, against the NFLSC addicts here as we go through 10 to 12. I'm not exactly sure how long this podcast is going to take, so we'll see.

I don't want to take all of Ben's time throughout his day. But we'll go through like 10 to 12 NFL trivia questions and we're going to keep score and basically see if you guys are smarter than us. So it's going to get heated. Ben, we're off the heels of game seven. between the Spurs and the Thunder as heated as that was. And on Twitter earlier today, I said that this episode is going to resemble that. It's going to be heated down to the very end.

It's going to be competitive. There are going to be rivalries that are formed. But I'm very excited to have you in the seat here with me for this episode. I'm doing my best Connor impression. Can you tell? I'm in the heavyweight tea and I'm just as large as I possibly can be. My wife met Connor and his wife. Hopefully they're doing well at your wedding this past.

year and she was like, that's a, that's a big individual there. And I was like, yes, no, that's one of the things that he's, but most well known for. Dude, he's a power lifter. Former power. Actually, I'm not even going to say former power lifter. I bet the guy could get under the bar or over the bar and be able to, uh, through the bar to listen through the bar, even. So Ben's joining us because Connor's wife currently going through, uh, you know, what you go through. We are welcoming a newborn into the world. So Ben, subbing in for, uh, Connor who's experiencing the early parts of fatherhood. Ben already experiencing, already knows what it's like to experience fatherhood.

So we had to get the veteran presence in here for the show. So we're going to have a good time. We're going to answer a lot of those questions. But it's also, it happens to be we didn't plan this, but it's also June 1st, which means it's basically the time of the NFL calendar when if you've been sitting on any of these deals, trades, whatever it is, you're just launching those suckers immediately. We thought that the AJ Brown trade, which who knows, Ben, maybe we get an AJ Brown trade live while we are on the show. But we already have one trade.

I already freaked out because we did an emergency podcast episode a little bit earlier about the Miles Garrett trade. Very quickly, which could also mean 30 minutes, thoughts on Miles Garrett going to the Cleveland Browns. I am surprised that's actually happened, not because it doesn't make sense for the Browns, but because it has made sense for the Browns for so long. It's everybody who's like, oh, I told you

the Brown's going to trade Garrett. Yeah, everyone's been telling us after the last like five years. Obviously they made cat machinations this past spring that made it more clear. like this was going to be in the cards for them. But I'm still surprised that it occurred. I don't think you can ever trade Miles Garrett away. And then on the day, I'd be called the winner.

I just don't think you could do it. I like, remember the Browns pitched five first round picks to be tradable, right? And they probably did that because they wanted to be able to get the five first round picks. They actually win the day they traded Miles Garrett. I don't think you can trade away a guy this good, who's been your franchise for this long. We just had the sack record and say, we won the day. With that said, I think overall it's a pretty good return for Miles Garrett at this, you know, okay, 30 years old.

you know, there's many years left, this is the dead cap it, to get a first, a second, a third, and then Jared verse, who I think you, you without question value verse, at least as a first round pick. And I think that if the Rams are just trading burst straight up with two years left on his deal with the fifth year option, I would imagine they would get a first and more for trading that bad caliber of a player. And so to me, the collective capital they got back, pretty, pretty impressive. Now, Miles Garrett's going to be a ram. The Rams are the best team of football. The Rams and I go win a Super Bowl. And then the Brown's the team that traded Miles Garrett's another team and he won the Super Bowl there in one season and when he couldn't do anything with

the Browns for 10 years. It still sucks. But in terms of how the Browns got this done, it's probably their last chance to get really good return for him. And I do think they got really good return for him, even though if you maybe pick which side of this trade I'd want to be on, yeah, it's still the freaking Rams. They have Miles Garrett. And that's the long and the short of it. Right, right. No, I'm, I'm with you. It's, it's an obvious win for the Rams. And anybody who wants to know more of our thoughts on it, or my thoughts specifically, just go listen to the emergency episode because I kind of go wax poetic for like 30 minutes on it. But ultimately, I agree with you.

The Rams clear winners in this trade on their side of it. They're acquiring Miles Garrett. Browns, it's sort of like, yeah, I mean, I agree with you. Anytime that you're trading one of the best football players in the world who is still capable of performing at a peak level, like, especially at a premium position, it's not great. But the Browns have no idea who their quarterback is going to be in 2027. And anytime that that's the case, your team is just like completely in flux. So it is one of those situations where they got a good amount back. You get Jared Verse at least.

It's sort of like, hey, we got a good edge rusher back. And then we have a ton of draft flexibility that you mentioned that they acquired from it. So it is. It's hard to say winners when you're giving up Miles Garrett. But I do think the Browns at least did a nice job getting a good amount back and a young and continuing to. I was going to say ascending, but ascending makes it sound like he's not already there. I mean, verse has been top 10 impressions over the last two seasons

in his first two years in the league. So versus kind of already there. So the Cleveland Browns did get a good amount back. I personally, really quick, I personally think that this move means that the Thai Simpson selection makes more sense. Because I was mainly against it at 13

because of all the players specifically on the defensive line that they could have added at number 13. Sure, you could say like, oh, they could have a bunch of offensive tackles that were still on the board. It's like, all right, well, you know, they're probably not playing anyways.

Kenyon Sadiq, like, all right, they already have like eight tight ends. Funny enough, they drafted one in the second one. But it was basically, the reason why I didn't like it a lot is because I felt like they passed up the opportunity to get a player that could have been a difference maker along their defensive line.

Now they get Miles Garrett. So it's like, okay, well, now I'm not as mad at that. So I still think it was a little early for Ty Simpson. When you talk about his skill set, that's why I don't like the Tyson pick, because 13 is too early. Like you don't need to get me any sort of all like, you know, add a play that they contribute now.

They picked a guy who's not going to have to go 1313, right? I like the argument that they're kind of getting out in the media of like, we drafted Simpson the first round so we could be more flexible of the 2027 first rounder because we wouldn't have to worry about quarterback development of the future implies that you got to get Ty Simpson with the 13th overall pick when you have the chance. And I just don't, I don't buy that for the price on the sticker. You know, like it just wasn't that caliber prospect to me. Yeah, I agree with you.

I do agree with you there really quickly. actual. You know what, this will get you, this gets you warmed up here, Ben, because we have a super chat and then we're getting it right into the, we're getting it right into the trivia. Robert gave us a super chat. He says, bros, how's the betting journey going, which is a whole other insight. I joke, Ben, that I don't have time to get you on. Yeah. It's a start bench cut, okay, pool day, beach day, or summer scouting. Wow. So I'm cutting, I'm cutting, I'm generally cutting a beach day because I do not enjoy beach days, the way you people are thinking about beach days. I will go to a beach because it is a fringe of of lands to natural water,

which will allow me to fish off of it. So I like that beach day. Which speaking of, shout out to the kayak content videos that you've been doing, which just unbelievable stuff. You sitting in the rain sometimes in the kayak, breaking down NFL expectations for 2026. It is unbelievable. The connector for the TikTok, Mike, he said stop working since the rain video, by the way. That's why it's insane. Who knows? So I haven't. I have to shoot videos in the garden today.

And I'm enough time to get all the way to the lake and get the boat out in the water and put the camera down. And then be like, so miles of character to the Rams, I just go to the backyard. But so I'm probably cutting a beach day. I will bench summer scouting because it comes out like it's fun. But, you know, you don't really want to work in the summer. So I'll start the pool day. And just like to me, like going to the beach is just reading at the least comfortable location in the world. Right.

I'm just getting sanded in my book and my, I'm getting burned. The pool, I get a chair. And now my reading is more pleasant. See, I hear you. I, you know, I empathize with you. I understand where you're coming from. However. However, the Floridian in me could absolutely never.

I'm starting a good beach day because there's truly nothing like, you know, a great beach day. Go driving with the windows down to the beach, hitting a public's right beforehand, grabbing yourself a nice club sub. You're all, you're just driving a cold ice tea or. whatever your beverage of choices, you head to the beach, you throw it all in the sand, the music is playing, the waves in the background. There's nothing like it. I'm starting a good beach day.

And then I got a benched somber scouting, because I can't cut scummer scout it. That's who I have. I can't do that. I can't do that. I can't do that. So I'll take the beach day over the pool day. But yeah, that's how we...

No, I know my beach day take is an unpopular take, but I just... No, the chat actually is very much agreeing with you. Thank you the chat. They're very much. They're very much with you. Speaking of the chat, it's time. It's time to load up some trivia.

So the way that we're going to do this here is I'm not going to look at the chat while we're talking about things because what will happen is we will see the question. Ben and I will see the multiple choice answers because we'll give you us four answers, which we have four answers to choose from as well. We will talk amongst ourselves about sort of what we think the answer might be. And in that time, it is then up to you guys to vote. The way that you vote is through the NFLSE Discord is the easiest way for us to do this. And the Discord members, man, it's popping in there. If you are not a member of the NFLSY Discord, you can easily join it using a link that is in the description of the show. So if you go in there, you'll see one of the channels is called Addict Allie or at least one of the, I don't know what words to use.

There is something that says trivia voting on the left hand side that was very easy to see. You'll be able to see it. That is where you vote for all of this. So fire up Discord, get in the NFLSE Discord, get in on the trivia here. And with that being said, chef, Tybal, Tyler, let's see the first question. Let's do it. Yeah, his friends call him Thai.

His friends do call him Thai. His mother, I learned before the show, he calls him to tie guy, but she's the only one who does that. So we're not going to infringe upon the mother's sacred names for her son there. The first question that we have in football trivia, what quarterback leads the league in both passing yards and passing touchdowns over the last three?

seasons. So 2023, 24, and 2025 combined the four options that we have here, Josh Allen, Patrick Mahomes, Jared Goff, and Baker Mayfield. Once again, if you guys aren't in the Discord, that is where we are going to have you guys vote. So you can join the link that is in the description of this show as you guys are watching. And you can get in on that. I'm not looking at the chat. I'm not looking at the chat at all for this. So you guys can talk amongst yourselves, whatever. It is just Ben and I that are kind of talking through this. ourselves. Ben, do you have a first read right after that? I do. Now, do I don't have to play my cards close to the vest? Like, I don't want to tell them what I'm thinking. And then they vote

for it. You know, you can be a little coy with it. You can talk about maybe the good parts of that. Hey, Jared Goff was second in the NFL this year. I just know that off the time of my head. Jared, Jared golf was second in the league this year in passing yards. Yes. Lions have had a good offense. You know, Patch of Mahomes to go. Josh, yes. Allen stuffs the stat sheet every single week. Yeah. I'm pretty, my initial lean is golf because you'll remember this more than I will. Was Baker full-time starting in 2023 yet or no?

That was three years ago? No, was 2023 the magical practice squad on the Panthers year? That's what I thought. I thought he signed with the box in the edge. Was he rushing the edge? Was he rushing it? Was he getting off the ball? Was he hand in the dirt in 2020? Just scouting quarterbacking over the Rams?

Even if it wasn't, I feel like his 20, 24 was an number obviously enormously successful but it's 2023 and it's 2025 I cannot remember as being that productive. I'm so I'm pretty confident it's not him and then my issue with Mahomes is that in 24 two years ago all they did was freaking kick field goals and slow the game down like they didn't have like a large volume of plays

and touchdowns and then Alan they run the ball too much inside the red right because they could run it with him and obviously James Cook had like 19 rushing touchdowns two years ago with like 15 this past year so I'm pretty sure it's golf it's just because of the number of games that they would play that were like super high scoring and the fact that he like has not missed a game in the last three seasons so my lean is golf

So I didn't say this off the top, but obviously, like, you guys, since we're not doing it here on our side of the show, you guys obviously have like search engines and AI that you could use to pop this in. For the integrity of the exercise, I would encourage you not to do that. I can't stop you. You can do whatever you want. You got free will, right? But I would say to keep the integrity of the game, let's try to keep that to a minimum. So I was between Josh Allen and Josh. Jared Goff actually.

And that's kind of where I'm at, like one of those two guys. I just think the, I just think the, like the bills run it more than the lines too. I don't think people realize how productive the bills are running the ball on the ground. And like so much, like I was like, oh, Dave Montgomery and Jemir Gibbs. So much of Gibbs production is through the air, right? It's like, you know, quick screen stuff. So I just think, I think the bills just run it too much. So my lean is golf.

Tyler, do we have enough votes within that time span? Like, is that a good, is that a good pace there? Okay, all right, okay, all right. So I'm with you. Let's go see Jared Gop. So we're going with C. Jared Gough on our end. Chef, what are the people going with in the Discord? Wow, run away.

No, run away. Smart group. I've always said that about the NFL Stocks here's Discord. That's true. That's true. They're sharp. They're sharp. We've got to be on our, we've got to be on our P's and Q's here.

So what is the, what is the correct answer here, Tyler? It is indeed, Jericho. I love the Trevor Sycambe of face wipe. I think that's the best part of the show so far. I just watch those. Tyler, Tyler, he's done a great job of when Connor and I have our rankings of like players, it'll be an empty, you know, like one, two, three, four, five slots. And then the animation to reveal them is like Connor's floating head that comes down.

This is, this is so like, like, light bulb to me because I listen to the ranking shows like in the car. on runs and stuff. I always I never watch them ever. So it's funny because like all the time like I'll be listening and like you're like our number nine and you guys will bust out laughing and I'll be like okay what's the joke like who's is he at five is he has a because I can't see the rinkies come up. It's like I don't know what the problem is because I'm just going the audio version. So I have I have never caught like an actual Tyler orchestrated reveal and it's quite wonderful. I need to start just watching it on YouTube on my drives in a much more healthy and safe way consuming the podcast. Yeah. Well don't. Don't watch the show on your drives.

But it is, we do, Connor and I are trying to make a much more conscious effort because we know there are so many people who are audio-only people. And we really are trying to make sure that we make a more conscious effort to make sure that they feel just as a part of the show because we know there are a lot of you,

audio-only people out there. Hopefully this trivia episode is obviously something that leans into y'all's commutes or getting through the workday or a run or whatever. What a podcaster. What a guy is. I'm trying, man. We're trying out here.

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Hold on. I'm going, before we go to question two. Oh, we got a question. It's fine, it's fine, it's fine. It's fine. Oh, wait. A.J. Brown got dealt? Yes.

It is shockingly to the New England Patriots. Oh. Go on my gosh. Wow. Okay. What way? What are the terms? Dude, I'm sorry.

I'm sorry. I'm sorry. I'm sorry. I'm sorry. I'm sorry. The Patriots official account at Patriots tweeted in all caps, AJ Brown. No emojis, no image, nothing. But you're at three months?

But you're coming down the mountain, my guy. You got to know you're a bratty? You got a Jersey spot and had 12 weeks. I can't believe this. It's minimalism gone too far. Marie Kondo. What was her name of the declarital? on Netflix and it doesn't bring you joy.

There's still files. We'll only tweeting out war letters. I can't believe that. I'm so disappointing. That is amazing. The chat's saying this is peak so like losing your mind over something like this is Peaksal like. I'm devastated, dude.

And it really is. Dude, did you see that? I did get a kick out of when he went on Edelman's podcast. And this is probably like two months, two and a half months ago. Like this is a while ago. And they're talking about something. And Adelman, like, A.J. Brown is on the show. And he, and he just goes, come on, we're all Patriots here.

And, and AJ just like smirks and winks at the camera. So, AJ, like, is it deeply, like, coy and mischievous guy? Like, if you watch his press conferences, he loves, like, doing, like, jokes and pointing at stuff and whatever. And so that's, that's very much up his alley. What was the compensation? They get a 2028 first. And then it's, there's a 2020.

57 5th and apparently it's the better of the Patriots two-fifths they have two. I don't know why they have to do what they do. I mean like, so as an Eagles fan, how do you feel about it? I mean, like, it's not dissimilar to the Miles Garrett thing. I'm not going to sit here and be like, we traded AJ Brown, you know, good return, whatever. I'm glad that they were able to get a first. And I think that when people talk about the future discounting of picks, right? Like, oh, it's a 2028% of 2027 first.

Future discounting matters to me in the cases of uncertain job security. I promise you, Howard Rosen's going to be around in 2020 to do what he wants to with that first round pick, right? Like, this is not the sort of thing or like, oh, Joe Shane traded for a first round pick. Yeah, he might not be there. Like, Howie's going to be there.

And so Howie is shown a willingness to trade multiple years in the future because he doesn't discount in the same way that those teams discount because he knows he got the job security. Yeah. So to me, they got a first when they were in a really poorly leveraged spot. Certainly once Waddle went for a one, I thought it was going to be hard for the Patriots to argue Brown down from a one because Brown is, I think, a clear cut above Waddle.

Brown is, dude. Brown is the best player that Drake May has thrown a football do in the NFL, right? Like by a mile. Oh, yeah. Yeah. Drake May's leading receiver in his two years so far has been Hunter Henry. Dude, you don't have to tell me.

I made the case for AJ Brown to be the number one wide receiver in the NFL two years ago. Well, this was before, when was this? Was it before last year? Or was it the year before? Whatever it was, it was like the year before, like, him and Jalen Hertz decided to be like the greatest of enemies. And I was like, okay, well, the timing could have been better on that. But who he had been up to that point, he's one of the best wide receivers in the NFL.

And Drake May, you talk about somebody who's not afraid to give their guys one-on-one balls. I mean, like, you know, like, that's when Philly's offense was at its best is when they were able to just run these go routes. And when Jalen Hertz is able to just take shots down the sideline. Yeah. And Drake's got such a good. Drake's going to be able to do it. He's got such a nice ball over the far sideline. It's so good.

Yeah. Yeah. All right. Makes sense. There you go. Yeah. I don't hate the 2028 first round pick. Like, would it have been nice to get a 2027 first round pick?

Sure. But it feels as though every team correctly so is very much valuing 2027 draft capital. And so nobody's really looking at it to deal. It can be a good draft. Yeah, it is going to be a good job. Subscribe to the NFL Stock Exchange podcast. Subscribe to the NFL Stock Exchange podcast. It's a free way to support the podcast.

So if you enjoyed anything we've done around here, we would absolutely love for you to be a part of the addicts. Crazy, crazy. Tyler had the subscriber thing ready to go immediately. Dude. It's a heartbeat, dude. Bro, Tyler, I love Tyler for this. We have like our debriefing meetings at the end of the week. And we're just talking about like the things that went well,

the things that didn't like go well, the things that we want to continue to do on the podcast and all this kind of stuff. And every now and then Tyler, our producer, obviously, will say to me, he'll be like, hey, like, how do we feel about like just being a little bit more regular? with like the subscriber call. So I'm like, oh, dude, that's such a great idea.

Yeah, let's do it. And then I won't do it because I'm an idiot. And then like the next week, he'll be like, hey, like, what do we think about like, you know, like maybe doing more subscriber call. And I was like, dude, that's actually a great idea. I'm so sorry I didn't think of it this week. Yeah, let's absolutely do it.

And then I wouldn't do it. And then until the next week, you'd be like, hey man, like, what do we think about? And so Tyler is so quick to it because he's the one who's, he's like the person in my ear who is just like, read the subscriber. Man, there's no such thing of the good podcast without a good producer.

100%. That's why his nickname's the chef, because he absolutely cooks. Question number two for trivia. One to one. One to one on the board here. By the way, if you guys are just joining us here, the way that you vote if you're in the chat,

you got to join the NFL-See Discord. It's super easy. There is a link right below where This podcast is on YouTube. You can join it. It's like two clicks and then you're in there. And then you'll see a little channel that'll say trivia voting. So you'll be able to see it's very easy.

Second question that we have here. What player led the NFL with 12 Red Zone receiving touchdowns last year? Choice number one, I'm on Ross St. Brown. Choice number two, Jamar Chase. Choice three, Trey McBride and D. is Devante Adams. So, Amon Ra obviously gets a ton of targets. Trey McBride's the same way.

Yeah. Trey was the one who I was like, I know he had a lot more touchdowns last year. Yeah, and I feel like... A lot more than one. Yeah. And he does not score from too far away too often, right? He certainly can't hit explosive receptions,

but like most of his work is zero to 20 yards. Right, right. I think McBride, just from the target total, Has to be in consideration here. Jamar Chase led the league in targets last year. And T. Higgins missed some time. So I think Jamar is always a safe bet. And then Devante is obviously crazy with the amount of touchdowns that he had with the limited amount of targets that he had.

I mean, it felt like they certainly with Pugua leading. No, Puga didn't lead the NFL in receiving, right? It was Jack Smith, the jig. but both of them were close. But I think it was Jackson. You're talking about total receiving touchdowns? Yeah, no, no, no, no, receiving yards. I was just thinking of like total production.

Because Nukua had so many yards. And yet Devante still had so many touchdowns off of so much fewer targets. So yeah. I'm like, I'm pretty sure it's Devonte just because of the one-yard touchdown, Matthew Stafford, MVP debate, consideration and frustration. Like so many of those were Devonty, they ran them constantly. also like much like McBride I don't think DeVonte score much from 40 yards away right because he's never wheels like that and I know that he cleared 12 touchdowns overall and so to me

I would imagine like 80, 90% of his are redsend touchdowns so I think it's Devante um I know most of the chat thinks it's Devonte I also think it's Devon all right shut it down shut it down when we get when we get close to giving the answer we got to we do we do have to we got to be more we got to see Ben we got to be more mysterious I tried dude I was pushing Tray McBride and they were all just like Devontowns, Devon, DeVon Ham, DeVos. I was like, all right, freaking, I'll try again the next one.

All right. I am pretty, I am 98% sure that this is De Monta Adams. Yeah, it's about that. Wait, wait, did you see that? No, I missed it. Hold on, do it again. It's me. Dude, that's so exciting.

We have the greatest producer in the world. Incredible that he got my face cut out that fast. For everybody who is audio only, Ben was freaking out about the animation of my face when it comes across the screen to reveal the answer. And he already, Tyler already has

Ben's face cut out for the animation. I think that's a different haircut, so it must have been an old picture of me. It might have been. Yeah, I thought for a second he got me just live on the thing and I was like, that's really his good behavior. He probably could have.

He probably could have. Next wife's going to be me in this shirt, this haircut. It's getting crazy. Can't wait. All right. Let's get the question number three. We're all tied up two to two here.

All right, we got to deceive. All right. Well, maybe not. Or do we need, to see. Yeah. Now you guys, see,

now you guys don't know. Now you guys don't know. What player led the NFL with 13 penalties that were accepted against them last season? Once again, don't use Google.

Try to actually answer this with, you know, with full integrity, with your heart. Let's have an ethical podcast here. Answer number A, J.C. Lathen. B is darned right.

C. Caleb Williams. D. Jeffrey Simmons. I'm assuming Caleb is included, like, what pre-snap slash operational penalties get put on Caleb, right? Like if, the Bears had like, you know, whatever five, the lead games in the first, like, six weeks of the season, right? Because they're having so much trouble. That is on him.

Are those, yeah, because the live game on number 18, so that's not the ball? Oh. This is cheeky. That's what I don't know. Yeah. This is cheeky here. Because some of that, but like some of it was like illegal forms.

formation, illegal shift, which is on the guy, right? That's on the receiver or the guy. I don't know. But delay of game, delay of game is on the quarterback. Yeah. I just don't know if they had like, the lay of game is easier to prevent because you just call the timeout. It's supposed to like illegal shift or legal formation like that one actually gets called. You know, you can't really like stop it as easily.

So I don't know. I'm trying to remember if Latham played 17 games last season. I feel like he didn't. I feel like he played like 14. I don't think it's darn all right. And what's Jeffrey Simmons going to get called for? on sportsman like but i know i don't think 13 of them yeah but that's yeah that's so many yeah i know i know i know i think i think i know darnel gets hit for holding but i don't think it's

enough to get at 13 i know that laytham gives it has struggled right i'm just not sure if he played enough games last season um this one is tough keel like Caleb doesn't throw the ball away so he's not getting hit with a lot of intentional grounding he's got he didn't have been i can't remember any of like on sportsman like after the play shenanigans so you're just banking on him being to 13 like delay of game penalties that feels like too many for Caleb like i think that he probably like led quarterbacks and penalties just because of some of that stuff but i'm not sure he actually had like got it to 13 what player led the NFL with 13 penalties that were that were accepted last season i i i yeah it's intentional ground intentional grounding i guess

would be on Caleb here. Yeah. I think it's one of the two offensive, offensive linemen. I think just the offensive alignment is typically the most penalized position. For sure. Same for like, you know,

defensive player corner and like this isn't, there's none of them there. So to me, I think it's Latham or right. I would, I would just by version of position bank on the office alignment over the other guys. Between the two, I lean Latham.

But that's like my lean is to go offensive line and my lean is to go Latham. I'm making like two leads to get there. Darno Wright's my boy and he was, uh, second team all pro. So I feel like, If I feel like,

I don't know right with second team, right tackle all pro on my sheet. So I mean like I can't, you know. It'd be so brutal to have done so. And it turns I hit 13 movies. I know. This is the don't know ball test.

Ben just admitted that he voted for him. Latham's the easy answer. Yeah. Is there at A2? And it's like, it's like three good players in J.C. Latham's you want to be like, oh, it's got to be J.C.

Latham. Okay. I'm going to go, I'm going to go with Latham. Do you want to go with Latham? I do. My gut at first was J.C. Latham. I just am worried that he missed time.

Okay, we're going to go with J.C. Latham. The chat is also going with J.C. Latham. 58%. And then Darnell Wright was 34%. Okay, what is it? It is J.C. Latham. All right. All right.

I did. I did look, and he did miss time last year. He played 13 games last year. And still let the lead to penalties. So the thing, I would, like, if we were not going to take Lathen, it was going to be, so I was pretty sure he missed time. But it turns out the rate is just so high. Just one per game, just knocking them out.

Dude, and that's, that's like, I don't know how you felt about this, but I got to the point in March, probably like sometime around March, maybe it was even in February where I was like, why are we talking, why are we talking about potentially like offensive line for the Titans? Like, why are we talking about every other position? We're talking about, oh, David Bailey, Arville Reese, you, Jeremiah Love. And nobody was talking about offensive line for the Titans. The Titans were in a situation where I don't even know, outside of Peter Skoronsky,

I don't know how many of their current offensive linemen are even going to start at their current positions. Two years from now. A year from- I think, I think Latham does enough good things over the course of a game. Like, Latham is extremely up and down. He's very unreliable. Latham right now, it reminds me a lot of where, like, Ikea Kwan. who was in those early Panthers days.

And then they got Dave Canales in the building. And then like, Icky kind of just smoothed out a lot of the wrinkles. And is he what you wanted for how early you drafted him? No. Does he still have some debilitating weaknesses? And like when you're off as alive and the whole points to be well round did not have one weakness.

Yes. Like absolutely. But Latham like there's still like, you know, you watch Titans Offitz a film. There's a few plays of a film. And then there's, you know, several plays of the course of the season where you're like, man, that run hit, that screen hit because of J.C. Latham. And so there's enough peak to me that, that justifies them giving him another year because

like what else you're going to, into you're a rebuilding team. It would help if you're like working contract players would just hit for you. So I don't I don't mind it too much. But yeah, the, the, I knew before we saw a thing like this is a high, high, high penalty player. And like, that's the easiest sort of thing to clean up to actually keep you on the field. People.

Somebody chat said, if it was Caleb, I was going to explode. Yeah. Caleb was a good inclusion there because I don't think to myself how often quarterbacks can call for penalties. I don't know how to be like framework for it. Right, right, right. Mr. Cole said that Ben cheated. So you're getting your first, you cheated allegations.

After we did it, I looked up to see if he missed time because that's what I was interested in. Cole or whatever his name was. It was Mr. Cole. Nice. You guys have far too, like, pleasant of a relationship with your chat. It's always very productive. I'm going to, I'm playing the heel.

I'm going to be antagonistic. Good. We need one. Yeah, absolutely. Yeah, we need one. We need to stir up some drama on the pod. Okay. Question number four.

Question number four. Once again, guys, if you just join and you want to get in on the voting here on the chat side of things. You do so in the NFL-S-E Discord. That is the best way to do that. The link to join the Discord is in the description of the show. It's very easy to take a couple of clicks. And then you'll see the channel where we are voting on these questions.

Fourth question. Indiana previously, oh, this is, so Max Chadwick from preferred walk-on came up with the questions here. So he had to throw, you knew he had to throw in a college ball question here. Indiana previously held the Power 4's worst all-time win percentage. Thanks to Kurt Signetti, who is now the worst woat. Remember, don't Google. Worst vote? Who is the new woe?

Sorry. The worst vote. Yeah, who's the worst wote of all? That's the most Gen Z thing that I've ever said. I was explaining Wembe. Who's the goat of goats? I was explaining Wembe because I were watching GameScent with friends. I was explaining it to somebody who just doesn't watch any basketball.

And I was like, like, obviously like you've heard the name of LeBron James. She was like, yeah. I was like, he's the goat. She was like, no, no, no, wait. I thought Tom Brady was the goat. I was like, no, different sport. Like it doesn't mean like the only one. It's a different pasture.

It's a different past year, right? This is the goat of this past year. All right. So the four options that we have here. Northwestern, Wake Forest, Kansas, and Vanderbilt. So I, as you may remember from our time on Lothan NFL draft, I'm not a person who is a college football fan who was watching college football

before I was doing draft work and so I have zero framework for how good these four teams have been historically. I feel like I remember seeing super old CBS scorebugs of Kansas and there was like a one next to their names they were probably good in that season. Other than that, my heart says Northwestern

because when would they ever have been good at football? But I'm totally shooting in the dark on this one. Wake Forest is sort of the dark horse for me. I don't know enough about the program's history. I don't know if they've been poop for a long time. Northwestern obviously hasn't been great for a long time. They're not a Big Ten powerhouse. They have certainly had years where they have major struggles.

Kansas has had years where they have been good, but for a long time, like Kansas has also been very, very bad. Like there were some years where like Kansas has won like one game, two games. Vanderbilt. when did Vandy join the SEC? That's a great question. They were ever not in the SEC? I, well, I don't know because there's, you know, there's change in college football all the time.

Now, there's more change now than there used to be, but like Vanderbilt could have been one of those teams where it's like, hey, we added you, you know, 15 years ago. So maybe they're not getting pounded by SEC teams for the last 50 years. Maybe it's only the last like 15. But there's no shot. they were ever like,

I'm like Asian myself. They're never like Big East. They were never like Sunbelt, right? Like it's a massive, massive school. Right. Like they're not in an area of the country geographically where there could have been something else

the way like some of the big 12 schools are. And I don't think, I think size wise they're too big to have ever been, you know, kind of like an American conference or anything like that. So my head tells me Vanderbilt's been SEC for forever. Yeah. Which doesn't bode well for them.

No, it's a famously good conference, the SEC. A lot of people say it's almost like the Big Ten. brother not in this house not in this house not no allegiance just causing problems yeah you don't yeah you're just you're you're causing a disturbance you're causing a disturbance for no reason um kansas final answer lock it in what's the chat say oh kansas's going northwestern okay now i'm nervous i was i was the only one i thought was definitely good at some point kansas has had some horrible years

horrible all right okay what is it what's the answer whoa no but they got it wrong too, right? They did get it wrong. It's Wake Forest. Very good. Okay. Thank you. Tie game. Wake. Wake Forest? I mean, so Wake must have been in eight, how long has Wake Forest been like doing football? They must have been doing it for forever. Founded in 1834, yeah, that'll do it.

A lot of L's brothers. 200 years and eight years that Wake Forest has been doing it. Max is in the chat. Max said how to do a college football question for his trap. We appreciate you, Max. Thank you. All right. Wait, Max, hold on. Is Kansas close?

Is Kansas two? Max, in the chat. So now, like, I got to know. Wake Forest started playing football in 1908. And they are historically 495, 693, and 31. So it's basically like 500 out of 700. So, you know, what is that? 0.375, 37.5 win percentage?

Ugly. man wait somebody said wake kansas northwestern vandy okay is that true i believe i i i i swore it was going to be kansas i swore it was going to be kansas i'm very good that i was not involved in the decision making of this vanderbill has been cc since 1933

oh yeah previously they were in the southern conference sure of course as one does i don't even think we had a west in 1932 so it was just southern Okay, all right, we both missed it. Both missed it on a question number five. Question number five here. Who is the only team in NFL history that has never made it past the divisional round?

So, wildcard round, divisional round, conference championship, Super Bowl. The Browns, the Jags, the Lions, the Texans. I mean, unbelievable disrespect to our goat-blake portals for including the Jaguars in this. Miles Jack was not down. Miles Jack was indeed not down. Miles Jack was indeed not down. Miles Jack was indeed not down. They should have.

Who would they have played in the Super Bowl? The Eagles, right? Was that the Eagles? Yeah, because the graphic of Case Keenum, Nick Foles, Blake Bulls, and Tom Brady all walking. John's Longfarty. Great year, 2017. Great year.

Obviously, I'm fighting. I'm fighting. I'm fighting because Foles got to beat Brady. It was Brady. Foles Blake Bortle Keenham and Bordles Yes

I tie the go I'm sure we'll be able to find within two seconds the graphic I'm talking about but it was right It was the back of their four jerseys And like them walking towards like I think they're walking towards US Bank Stadium

Yeah they are they are Yeah it was like you know the road to the Super Bowl And it's just Brady and then three of the most eminently forgettable mid-range quarterback two As you've ever seen in your life And one of them did win the Super Bowl Go birds And it went Brady didn't even win it

Yeah, that's what I'm saying, man Oh, 41 to 33 I just recorded a whole podcast about that game for ESPN Because they're doing like Super Bowl stories And I was like, yeah, I was 19 years old I flew home from college And I watched it crying on my home living room In my Jake Elliott jersey

And that was the last thing I ever did It was like an eagle fan There it is, yeah, the chef found it Yeah, what an unreal It's so good Especially because the Jags are still in those uniforms too Just reprehensible The color of the gradient

helmets so bad it really should have been blake boardles versus nick foals yeah which is funny because like at the time i mean like you're like trying to work your way up in the field you're like oh this is interesting like scheme r pos now if that happened again i'd be like this sucks like my coverage should be so different okay let's um so it so it's not the jags they made it's it's hard to have too much deception on this one um the lions it's not the lions yeah played the nineers the end of two years ago. Right. Right. So my thought is the Texans

have only existed since 2002. And I know that they have not made it under Demico because they keep getting into the divisional round. I do not remember Deshawn Watson ever doing it. And then other than that, they don't think they've had productive enough seasons. No. Versus the Browns who like, I can't pull it off the top of my head, but the Browns have existed for way longer.

So this is probably gone there. I would guess the Texans here. Yeah. You wanted to guess to take it? All right. We're going to go with the Texans. What's the chat? 92% to Texas.

Jeez. Jeez. It was a good question because we got to do some Bordles talk. Yeah, we did. Who knew? Who knew we were going to get Blake Bordels in here? There you go, Texans. Okay, sixth question, halfway through.

Let's go, four to four, four to four. Heated. This team played man coverage 43.5% of the time last year, nearly 12% more than the next closest team. This might require some deception. on our part or not to deceive. You know, look,

Steelers, aggressive defense. Have you read all the options for the audio crew? I'm looking out for them. Oh, yeah, sorry, sorry, sorry. Yeah, yeah, this is my people there. Thank you, thank you, thank you, thank you.

Have you those a lot of shout out, by the way, recently? Just how are you doing enough of those? Yeah, if you guys have not subscribed to the program, we would absolutely love for you to be. It's a free way to really support everything that we've got going on here at the NFL stock exchange. So we would love for you to be a part of the ad, and come to participate in shows like this

because this show is definitely a show of the people we love you guys. Okay. A is the Detroit Alliance. B is the Pittsburgh Steelers. C, the Cleveland Browns, and D. Connors, New York Jets. Aaron Glenn, famously manned coverage guy. Famously man coverage guy.

Jim Schwartz, a lot of man coverage. Steelers got man coverage type of corners. Lions like to be real aggressive. I mean, it's where Aaron Glenn came from. as a defense coordinator there. But Sheppard did bring their man coverage rates down because they wanted to do more like zone and simulator pressure.

Come on, you got to fool him. You got to fool him. No, he tripled the man coverage. A billion. He actually walked in week one of OTAs and said, if you utter the word zone, I'm cutting your ass. Sight unseen.

I'm not even going to talk to our cap guy. your locker room is going to be cleared out immediately in fact i like that's the cap guys like it's final say not bravo we're not gonna we're not going to clear out your locker room we're going to physically remove the locker from the locker room and you can take that bad boy home we'll get a bunch of cable around your car you could strap it up to the roof and you could get the hell out of here i was there when he said it yeah it was on hard knocks everybody I think we've given them enough time to vote here. Yep.

Does the poll get closed at some point? Ooh. Yeah, can you close the poll? My thought is you should, the discourse should be a question ahead. So that way, like, they're currently betting on question seven. And then by the time we get to seven, it closes for them. And then we get to go and we just don't know what they voted on. See, this is the first time that we've done organized trivia like this.

So this is actually a really good shout up. Maybe that's good. I gotcha, I got you. I'm suspicious of the chat in a way that you and Connor or not with your nice little friendly relationship. Okay, did we close it? Yeah, so they're all jets.

So they're saying the Jets. I think it's the Lions. I think it's the Browns. Oh, yeah? Browns are just like all cover one, cover three, but I feel like they would think, like maybe they are a lot of people. The other thing, so I'll say this.

Like, I'm assuming these are PFF numbers. I'm going off of like NGS numbers because that's what we use. at ESPN and I can't remember who's top but I promise you the difference is not 12%. And so a lot of it also can just make the difference in the charting. And so your instincts

for the numbers, and I'd be better than my thing for the numbers because you've looked at them while I've looked at different, you know, charting numbers. Hold on. Let me try, let me think. I'll say this. I know who played the most zone. I'll say this. I definitely don't think it's the Jets.

Because the Jets were like throwing stuff of the wall to see what's stuck. So they were like running out. I think it's the Browns. Let's do rounds. I think I I'm very confident. Not Jets. I'm pretty confident not Steelers.

Okay. The chat went with the Jets. I'm going to go with the Cleveland Browns. Let's go. Well done, Trev. Well done, Trev. Good job. Good job.

Good job. Good. Good. I now want to look and see what the next shot numbers are. Let's go, baby. Yeah. So we're up. We're up one.

We're up one. Wow. That was very good. Confusing of them because we actually were both thinking it was different teams. Yeah. No, it was. actually. I thought it was the Browns all the way. They're just super aggressive.

I think under Schwartz, they love the playman coverage. So yeah. I thought it was the Jets. Or I thought it was a Browns all the way. Yeah. Okay. Hoo! It's good to be on top, baby.

Good to be on top. Me and Ben got five. The addicts got four. Question number seven. This team sent a blitz. 52.4% of the time last year. Exactly 15. percent more than the next closest team next gen stats did have browns just above the lions

in manman cover rate but the difference for them is like two percent as opposed to the 12 percent of they were talking about yeah i think that this brought pff stuff then yeah um okay biking box steelers delts heavy blitz heavy teams blitz heavy teams here you know i think that jeff olbrick was experimenting a lot more with bringing a lot of different pressure like he even talked about. I think it was in around the middle of the season. He's like, look, like, I didn't love to be a heavy blitz guy. I didn't used to love to be a heavy blitz guy. And now, like, I'm much more, um, I'm much more open to that. And I think the Falcons defense was a lot more aggressive because of it, especially with the personnel that they had. Oh, sorry, the Vikings are

a choice A, the Buccaneers are choice B, the Steelers are C, and then the Falcons are D. So I already talked about the Falcons a little bit there. Um, Steelers are, what's saying way more than I thought they were this year. They took a second round corner, a third round corner. They had Jamel deed and they had Zion McColl. And I was like, oh, cool time to play man coverage and just be regular and instead they were like no we're not uh yeah we don't talk about last year actually for the buckneyers we actually we actually don't do that but todd boles loves the blitz um uh brian flores near the top of the list every single year and then i think the steelers under tomlin they do like to get aggressive there's no doubt about it

uh but anyway if people are are late joining the way that you vote if you're in the chat you got to join the nflbc discord the link to join the discord is in the description of the show. No. And then I know Vikings and Flores have an insanely high, like, early down blitz rate relative for the rest of the league. But a lot of, like, a lot of what they do is just being able to blitz on weird downs. So that way they can do more weird stuff on late downs versus the buckingiers who

like every single third down the bucks were blitzing because they just could not get after the quarterback last year. Shout out, Rubin Bain. Yeah. I'm pretty confident it's the Vikings. I'm like extremely confident of Vikings. Okay. All right.

So is the chat. The chat is also very much going with the Minnesota Vikings. So we're both going with A here. There we go. We're both correct on the Minnesota Vikings. Yeah, I think that the Buccaneers, I thought they'd be closer than 15%. 15% seems high to me, but I figured that the Bucks were two. But the Vikings, Flores sends pressure.

I mean, it's just what he does. It's who he is. It's in his DNA. A lot of it is like how you chart pressures too, like Blitzes, I should say. Like, you know, five men, six men. If you drop an edge rusher, if they're really, reading stuff out. Like the lines get very blurred.

But there's nobody who sends more people for more places in more odd ways. The Brian Forrest does. All right. All right. Ben and I are up six to five. We're one up on the chat. This running back has 204 broken tackles over the last three seasons, 25 more than the next closest player.

This is a hard one. Derek Henry, Sequin Barclay, Kenneth Walker, and Bejohn Robinson. This is a great question, Max. This is a hard one. Like I feel comfortable tipping my hand here to the chat.

I'm like, I'm pretty confident it's not Kenneth Walker because he wasn't getting enough touches. Right? So he was pretty clearly splitting time with Charbonnet for those seasons. Relative of the other three who have like mostly been Iron Men, mostly been playing and are the lion's share carry guys with their teams. Henry Barclay and Bejohn, splitting the three of them is mighty tough. So I don't think the chat was going to take Kenneth anyway. I'm pretty sure it's not Kenneth, other than that man. Like you could talk to me to any one of these three guys.

Yeah. Kenneth's got the explosive plays, but I just, I agree with you. Like, I don't think he's got the overall volume to be in the same level as those guys, especially, especially over a three-season sample size, having 25 more than whoever's the next closest. Yeah. Three-year sample size, Bejohn. Yeah, he was all those seasons.

Okay, okay, okay. Yeah, yeah, because he and Jemir are extension eligible, so they've had to have played for the three years. Yes, you're right. Yeah, right. Um, my gut tells me that obviously like Derek Henry has the best highlight reel tackle breaks, but also Henry doesn't actually like string together broken tackles in a way that would like accumulate this big of a number, right? Oftentimes it's like if Henry breaks the one tackle, then nobody else is touching him.

Right. Relative, I feel like Seekuan and Bejean do more of the like, like, you're not going to break multiple tackles on. Yeah, I don't know. It was a little fast. Sorry. Yeah, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, we miss it. He gave a single camp. That was a real.

I don't like that at all. Kevin fast. Anyway, fast moves. Jukes. And so to me, like, they're more likely to get multiple break of tackles a play. But also, you could talk me into Henry just breaks a tackle on almost every single touch. Right.

And, like, he. He invites so much more contact than those guys. So he might just create more opportunities. Again, a lot of is how do you chart broken tackles? Right? Because like, I know from experience, the ESPN internal numbers versus the NGS numbers are like dramatically different. Yeah.

So a lot of things kind of depends on who you're asking here. Right. I think it's Henry. I think it's Henry. Just based off of like what you have said, what you, what you said where he just invites so many opportunities to break a tackle and he's just so strong. I mean, shrugging off like one guy and getting immediately tackled. by somebody else just because he's not like a super explosive runner um you still get charted for that

broken tackle of the one guy that you bounced off of even if he get tackled right after that so so if the chat is done petting done guessing whatever i'm pretty sure it's bejean oh the chat did the chat did say bejean so you also i'm pretty sure it's be jean be jean's whole superpower like you think about bejohn is such a low explosive run rate before this season right like he wouldn't hate any of these like 30 40 plus yard runs because his super power is just turning the three runs into five and the five into eight and the ten into eight into ten and the ten to 15 so he just always breaks at least one tackle i'm i'm pretty confident spijan okay i'll give it to you i'll give it to you i'll give it to you we can go be jean there i get you you you had me on browns versus

with jets i think i think i think it's be john yeah wow look at that look at that he nailed it he absolutely nailed it big fan of beaton robinson no he's unbelievable yeah yeah yeah i think henry just like Henry runs away from too many tackles. Bejan just does not run away from a lot of tackles, so he has to break every single one. Yeah. Somebody said, stop showing them before they choose.

Ben said Bejohn before we saw. As if, as if, as if. Go back. Go back and look at the tape. As if your opinions would in any way, shape, or form influence my decision. Oh, that's ridiculous.

That's the heel. That's the heel. That's the heel. He's leaning into it. He's absolutely leaning into it. No, we don't want to show their answer. before we give ours for that very reason. But Ben was sticking with Bijon no matter what.

And Ben did, Ben said Bejohn Robinson before it came on the screen for us to see it. Go back to check the tape. Skycammon. All 22. I don't care. End zone angle or the top angle. It takes to New York. The rest can review this now.

Yeah. On Sportsman life, we're good. Do we need a thing? I don't know. Do they have a thing for when you go to New York? Yeah, I don't know. We got to do a little draw the box. It's so fun.

It is a great gesture. Okay, 7 to 6. Question number 9. What player had the most catches without a drop last season? Ooh. Good question. Was it? Trey McBride with 126.

Dalton Schultz with 82. Rashid Shaheed with 59 or Mack Hollins with 46. If Trayman Friday had 126 without a drop, that'd be insane. D'Aulton Schultz is insanely reliable. I'm by I say 82 catches for Dalton Schultz for like whatever, nine total yards all season and two touchdowns with no drops is extremely Dalton Schultz coded. That sounds very much like something he would be doing.

It's very believable. It's very believable. It's very believable. No disrespect to the man's hands. But it's just like that's not the type of receiver he is. I will say. So like I remember I was watching him just like free agency stuff before the Seahawks resigned in.

And he much better than I would have had to. a beta for a player of his skill set. Like he will take a shot over the middle of the field for the football. I don't think that means he never dropped the football. Yeah. But I will say that like he's not, you know, trying to not insults a buddy. No, I think he's a good player. I don't think he's like a, I don't think he's a soft speed.

Exactly. He'll take the head guy. But just the nature of the targets that he gets, I would be surprised if this is the answer is him. Matt Collins is the funniest name in here because like, If you show me the answer and it's Matt Collins, it'd be like, yeah, sure. But if you, here's the issue.

If you had asked me, not show me any names. And you had said, you know, how many catches did the leading receiver have this year who'd never dropped a single pass? I would have guessed like probably like 45-50. That would have been like the number in my head.

He has 46. Like to me, like if I were making this question, to screw with us, I would anchor us super high by putting 126 Trey McBride, 82 Dalton Schultz up there. And then I would be Mac with 46.

Because like, oh, you know, we might say like max like you know he's not that great a player it's kind of silly he had 46 targets yeah but like if he got all of his passes he got all of his passes about dropping i do feel like my gut is telling me there was one like key third down like big second down the explosive game drop that he had that like lives in my head as a good drake may play but maybe i'm making that up i don't know i i i i'm not i i'm not trying to mislead anybody in the chat here like i was trying to do derrick henry like i've got nothing yeah um there's no way mcbride had 126 is I think I don't think it's McBride

I don't think it's Schultz because 82 seems too high and then like he like you said like she doesn't read him are we voting Matt Collins did you just talk me into Mac Holland if they were just me taking the shot I would probably click Mac Collins 46 if Schultz caught 82 balls without dropping a pass that's repugging him incredible word choice

when they gave me an extension I was so bad get a real talent on the tight end. Okay. We go in Mac Collins. All right. What's the chat say? Chat saying Dalton Schultz.

Oh no. It can't be Schultz. It got 82 passes. There's no way Schultz got 82 passes. Not dropping a ball. Is Rashid Shaheed? Dude, Shadar Rashid. Mr. Reliable.

It's what I've always called him. Dude, that was the first player that I eliminated. It's a good question because he just does not seem like the sort of player who would have zero drops because he's like 190 pounds soaking wet. Again, I don't. I don't even think it's because he's not a tough player. It's just the type of targets that he get. Downfield targets, quick hitting slants.

You're going to drop on those. Lawrence physical play. Yeah. Wow. Dude. All right. Well, thank goodness. They took the Dalton Schultz bait.

Crazy. I personally would never. Oh. But we got Matt Collins. Man. Okay. So there's one question left. And the best we can do it,

they can do is tie us, right? No, we have 12 questions, actually. Oh, 12. If I was 10. All right. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah.

Okay. Question number 10. Oh, this is horrible. Is Chadwick a Jets fan? No. This was extremely PJ Clark coded. I wasn't sure if it was the Syracuse boys with their ridiculous shots knowledge. Scottock Boomer Bus.

The Jets have only led the league in scoring one time. What year was it? You got to be kidding me. Do not look this up. Chat. Yeah, true. Is it 1968, 1968, 1960, 1990, 1998, or 2008. Okay, so here's the information I have for you.

2008 is of Mark Sanchez here. Correct. Rex Ryan's head coach. Correct. Is Marty Morning Wagon OC? No, Martin Williams. Oh, was he the OC? I can't remember.

I'm like, Chene Galey, one of those guys. Anyway, so that's what's happening in New York at the time. I know, like, they're making, like, you know, deep playoff runs. They're going to be against Phillip Rivers and stuff. I just think, like, with Rex,

it's like a defensive-minded team. The strength of that team was their defensive ball. I would be surprised if, In 2008, there's like Prime Manning, Prime Brady. I think maybe not with Brady, but like Rothesberger, Rivers, Bree, is like my guess is they're not leading the league in school in 2008. I agree. I agree. That was a good season for them, but that doesn't read correct.

In 1998, I think that's a Chad Pennington? Uh, I have no other information for you besides that. 1960, 1968, at some point, Joe Namath was involved in one, maybe both of those seasons. This is all the information I have for you at this time. I think it'd be 68 because didn't they win in 68? I'm pretty sure they won. It's Super Bowl 61 coming up, which means the Super Bowl started in 65,

which means 68 would have been the Broadway Joe year because they won the third Super Bowl. Yeah, yeah. So I'm going to go, I'm going to guess 1968. I'm going to lock in 1968. That's fine with me. Okay. It's, it's overwhelming 1968.

Yeah. Because I just, I know that that, oh, it's 1960. But that's fine, but that's fine. That's fine. So we're still up by what? We're still up by what? What's going on in 1960? Who's on the roster?

Less than what was going on in a... A bunch of guys with some wild nicknames. What do we got here? 1960. Aldoro throwing the ball. Oh, Art Powell. They went seven and seven that year. Sammy Baugh's coaching.

Big Sammy Ball. Training campus at the University of New Hampshire, according to pro pro for the law reference. Al Doro's Chuck in the pigskin Yeah We're in We've got a left halfback

And a right halfback Listed on pro bowl reference Had 26 passing touchdowns And 26 Interceptions That's gaming all right He's jamicing

He completed Wait a second This man completed 50.8% of his passes And that was a career high for his seven years NFL career.

Like wingedeing it or something. Are you looking at the reference page or Wikipedia? Pro football reference. Dude, look at their logo on the top left. The Titans of New York. For 1916, New York, it's 1960 New York Titans.

Not the Jets yet. And it's like a super old style logo. Might be a technicality. I don't know. It doesn't sound like the Jets led the league at scoring. Now did they? Might have to show up the Chadwick's door.

Baseball bat in hand. see if he wants to play some you know backyard baseball they were the titans from 60 to 62 and then they became the Jets in 63 as I as we all knew so many in the chat said Messador's rookie year

I've had it I've had it which he was in this draft that you need to be like his freshman year in college at least dude did you see the clip where I think it was Marcus EJ and Brett Coleman were they were doing an episode and Marcus I think, I think it was Marcus, who just like dropped, with Messador getting drafted

to the Chargers, he's like, yeah, Messador and Kalil Mack were actually like, went to the same high school, like they were high school teammates. And Brett goes, wait, really? And they, the other guy, they just bust out laughing. And Coleman's like, all right, come on. When you're 25 in the draft, you're functionally like 43, right? There's just no limit to who you're a teammates with. No, I mean, you're a, you're a World War II event.

geriatric. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. You know how to do the Charleston. You know, like, that's, that's, that's, that's, that's where you're at with age. Okay, question number 11. We're still up one. All right. We just get this one right and then we're, we're going to be safe.

Yeah, and then we lock it in. And we lock it in. Oh. Oh, so this is no, this is no, no options. We should do this one off the dome. Oh, I don't know. There's no options. Do we, we, we have to, we have to write this down?

Okay. Okay, since 2002, the Buccaneers have only selected one Gator Great in the first round. Who is it? Okay, well, I know who it is. I obviously know who it is. I think I know who it is. Are you writing this down? You're writing this down?

Then you're going to hold it up. Don't hold it up. I had a name that immediately came to mind. He may not have been drafted by the Bucks at all, but it's the name that immediately popped in my head. Okay. I know the answer. A second name is popped into my head. So again, since 2002, the Buccaneers have only selected one Gator Grady.

Florida Gator, someone who went to the University of Florida. In the first round, who is it? I know who it is. Tyler, I'm assuming that the chat or the Discord is just like going to shout out names. Okay, okay. Just spam it in the general chat. All right, right. I like when you jet hand gesticulate in front of your beautiful, incredible camera

because that it focuses on your hands and not your face. It's incredible hand quality. Look at like it's like modeling. It's crazy. I don't get that over here. Squeaky clean. Squeaky clean folks. field man do you see this you see this uh wait joint no no yeah yeah this finger right here

shout out you not knowing which ring finger is crooked see how see how this this finger is like crooked broke it playing flag football how all the cool kids do it really thought there's going to be more of the story after broke it actually flight football that it was down with the whole story did we win the game no yeah no no no Was it in the first quarter? Yes. Did we win? No.

Was it worth it? Also no. No. I let it heal like for too long. And then I ended up like going to the. Yeah. Well, it's because like I could like kind of bend it and and.

Oh, you're saying you let it heal untreated it for too long. Yes. Yeah. And like somebody put it in a splint and then like when I took a splint off like whatever it was like a week later, it was still like bent. And I ended up going to like an urgent clinic and I was like, can you straighten my finger?

And they're like, yeah. I mean, we can rebreak it for you. And I was like, not on now, we're good. Yeah, we're going to leave it. Yeah, we're not going to do that. Okay. Are we revealing?

Yeah, go ahead, go ahead. Okay, so I wrote down Hargreaves. I don't know, that was the corner out of Florida. Remember Vernon? Yeah, that's right? Don't ask me if I remember Vernon Hard Grace. Okay. Unfortunately.

Because I legit, I couldn't remember if he was dropped by the box or not. He was. And then I wrote, or that bad defensive lineman. Because in my head, I was like, wasn't there also like a terrible Florida defensive lineman? Taven, Bryant. But he was a JAG. Correct.

Yeah. Okay. Yeah. Was that who you were thinking of? No, I think it was, I think it was like a defensive end like in like the 2000s. Oh, jukai. Oh, wait. You're talking about jukaii?

It was since 2002. And I remember a friend of the pod, Derek Classen at QB class, who's also a Florida year's fan. There's like one like guy who lives in his head. It was like this, you know, very good Florida defensive linemen who made it still league. I can't remember his name. It's not jikai play.

No, no. This was like a guy in like the 2000s like in the aughts. But I, I, I can't promise. Maybe. I can't promise he was actually drafted. the bucks or not. No, I don't think he was trapped the way of the bucks.

All right, so we both got it. Both got the question. Eight to seven. Coming down to the last question. Man, Vernon Hargraves, that draft was like,

there were like three really good corners in it, and then they all were terrible. And then they were all very bad. Yep. Yep. Vernon got traded. Vernon got traded in his fourth year because he didn't give effort on

a chase down tackle, which is very warranted. And they cut him the next day. They're like, nope, done. Yep, we're out. Eli Apple, 10 overall. Gordon Hargraves, 11 overall. There was Jaylon Ramsey of 5 overall kind of, you know, but, you know, safety corner or whatever.

And then William Jackson, 24 overall. Marty Burns, 25 overall. That was the corner class going round one in 2016. Yeah. Pog. All right. Last question that we have here. Can the chat tie it up, folks?

Eight to seven going into the final question. Oh, wow. In the inaugural episode of NFLSE, who did Trevor have the Jacksonville Jaguar selecting with the number one overall pick in his 2022 mock draft? This is an excellent, excellent question here from Max. Was it Aidan Hutchinson, Trayvon Walker, Evan Neal, or Kyle Hamilton? The inaugural episode of NFL Stock Exchange, 232. So did you start it in the fall?

all this should be one that I feel like you should be able to have this I'm concerned you can't remember when you started the podcast let alone who you gave the Jaguars in the first pick in a 2020 mock draft I think the first episode was like now remember it's not to say you did a month it's not until that you did a mock draft with the first episode oh but I'm trying to remember like you just kind of like you certainly would have done one by by the end of the regular season right when like the draft order gets kind of set into place because it you would not have had the Jaguart's picking one if you did in August mock drafts.

This was like Trevor Lawrence, first year of Urban Meyer. Nobody thought they were going to be like, you know, clear like first overall pick. Right. So let's say you're probably doing this in like December or January. Mm-hmm. So by that point, Trayvon Walker has definitely emerged. He has. Much as has like 17s acts, right?

And like it's very good going to be a top guy. Yeah. Kyle Hamilton, you know, has entered the discourse. You know, we're going to be talking about the safety guy for several years. I'm trying to space if we knew yet. that Evan Neal was going to be like contending with Iki Aquano and Charles Cross for OT1 because I feel like Neil was the guy until like late October November that cycle. If I'm going to remember it correctly.

And then we started to talk about, hey, like there's some other tackles in this class. And Neil's not having that great of a season. That's why I'm trying to place it. Update. The New England Patriots account has just tweeted a jersey swap of AJ Brown. Nice. Good. I'm glad.

I'm proud of them. I'm glad that they got there. About time. They had to whip it up. They didn't know that this is going to happen. Absolutely, I mean, you know. They didn't have any idea. It was such a shock to all of us.

Who did Trevor have the Jacksonville Jaguarie selecting with the number one overall pick in this 2022 mantra? Okay. You know who you're going to bet on? It's not going to be Kyle Hamilton. If it is, then I was out of my mind. I liked Kyle Hamilton a lot, but to project the safety number one overall,

I don't think that I would have gone that crazy with it. I was never a Trayvon Walker guy. Yeah. So I would assume that until the very last predictive mock draft that I did, I was not going to be pushing Trayvon Walker going number one overall. As a big Trayvon Walker one overall believer and better, that was like February that that was hitting. That was, I think that you would have done a mock before then. Yeah. It's Evan Neal or Aiden Hutchinson.

And I had Evan Neal as a top. 10 player in that class. He was not number one. But I end up having Hutch lower, like right outside of my top five. I think you would have done Hutch over Neal because the Jaguars didn't really have that big of a tackle need at the time. It was just that they were connected to Ikea Kuanu a lot, like in the process. They very clearly had an edge need because this was before even like Heinz Allen had really like exploded. And so to me, like if I was doing the first, and you were not here. My guess I'll say,

I'll say Aden Hutchison. Let's say Aden Hutchison. Oh, the chat to Evan Neal. Dial in, boys. This is for the time for them. See, I'm what? No, damn. That's a devastating tie.

Oh, I misled you. I pushed you the wrong way. See, I was, I initially wondered if it was going to be Evan Neal because I was going to, I was going to say, you have to protect Trevor Lawrence. Like that's the way that I think about things. Right.

Yeah. Like you just have, you have to protect Trevor Lawrence. You have to, man. I shouldn't, I should have, I should have, I should have,

I should have, I should have, you know, turn the chat off, turn the chat off. Turn the chat off. Turn the chat off. Chat's ridiculous.

Who is this Peter person or lauding? Uh, Peter is, Peter is one of the, the Ring of Honor members of the addicts. Nice. And Peter has been a diehard addict of the podcast since day one. And I can see now in the chat that Peter was leading the charge that it was indeed.

Peter said, I remember rewatching that episode like four years after that draft and thought, wow, they whiffed on Evan Deal. Buddy, this year is four years after that draft. You were watching a couple months ago? A big hospital Peter. When you go back, when you go back and you watch the episode, sometimes they could have pivotal meaning for you, like tying it up to eight to eight, 12 questions. I'm so mad. All right. Well, whatever. Oh, what a wonderful time. We appreciate all you guys. That's a lot of fun. I love these trivia episodes. I hope that they continue to evolve. I hope that you guys

enjoy them as well because I'd love to do a lot more of them. Ben, can't thank you enough for joining me, man. This is so much fun. This is a blast to do. Tell the good people what you were up to. Do you have like specifics other than like the kayak, you know, TikTok, NFL evaluation stuff? Like, do you have a summer series or is it really just like, hey, once the season comes around, you're doing a lot of like writing podcast and things like that. What do you have to? I'm on vacation next week and I'm looking forward to it. I haven't taken like an actual proper like days off in the summer. What do we do? What are we doing into? What beach are you going to? I know. I texted you about this last week because we are going to Metropolitan Cincinnati. Oh yeah. Yeah. We have young kids. My sister and her family

have young kids. They just had twins. And so we wanted to see them and hang out. But no one wants to fly. So we went and we dropped the pin directly between us and them. And it is Cincinnati, Ohio. So is all right. We're going to go hang out and go to the Cincy Zoo. and go to Trev's old stomping grounds. And so we'll be in Cincinnati next week we might with five kids in the Airbnb, three and under, which is going to be a lot of fun. That's vacation. The chat is screaming that we need a tiebreaker, but we don't have a tiebreaker.

That's on me. I should have gone with 11 questions. And then, okay, so what we're, what we're going to, this is the learning lesson, learning lesson for us doing trivia. What we're going to do for the next trivia is we're going to make sure that we have our amount of questions. And then we will have a final question in which it is whoever gets close. closest.

Right. That's the, that's the, that's the way to actually do it. So whoever can get closest to what was the average outside cushion for cornerbacks in the Carolina Panthers defense in 2025 wins. Don't worry. I'm not looking at it right now because I was writing about the Rams defense. Don't have, I don't have it directly up on screen. Okay, okay.

Hold on. Hold on. Hold on. I don't mind this. I don't mind this. So the chat. I was being facetious. That's insanely esoteric.

No, no, no, no. So you're looking at the average cushion that corners from the Carolina Panthers gave. Okay. So pre-snap alignment. How many yards off the line of scrimmage were they on average? So I will say to the chat, I will give you a hint. No one played more zone coverage than the Carolina Panthers did last year. Right?

No one played less press coverage in the NFL. There's no way for the chat to consolidate into one answer. No, it's fine. No, it's fine. Fire away on all of, fire away on the numbers in the chat and in the NFL. scored, okay? I will give you guys 30 to 45 seconds to do this. Tyler is going to pick

or maybe even like average in his head, he'd be like, okay, it's somewhere between, you know, like this and this. He could do it. I'm not doubting him to do it. So Tyler is either going to pick out a random score or he is going to in his head sort of mentally be like, okay, it's, it's this. Like this

is close to like the average of what the chat is actually saying. So we're having a lot of, uh, we're having, we're having a lot of, uh, man. A lot of votes here. A lot of votes. I'm not going to give them away. A lot of votes in the sixes.

A lot of votes in the fives. That's sort of like where we're at. And it's whoever gets closest. So Ben is looking at this number. This is the average yard cushion that the Carolina Panthers DBs have had on the wide receivers that are aligned about there on the field. Okay, Tyler, are you ready? I think we're ready. To speak for the chat as well.

I put you on the spot heavy, but I will guess, I will guess, 4.9 yards. Then we'll have to go with 6.7. 6.7. There's a lot of 6.7s in the chat. 6.7.

Okay. The people are consulting on 6.7? Yes. All right. As per next gen stats, the average Carolina Panther outside corner lined up last year, 7.7 yards

off the line of scrimmage. Yes. Is your ever a defense baby? 7.7? Yes. The Saints were second at 7.5. The charges were third at 7.2. They were so far back.

Comfortably far back. Yes. Mike Jackson and Jason Horn, two long corners who can play press man. They played 7.7 yards off the line of scrimmage. That's so far back. What are you doing? I can't believe.

cannot believe, I cannot believe these people guessed six, seven. That's true. I didn't even realize that's what they were doing. And won because of it. I wonder if this is just like the most off. That's crazy. I mean, you're playing prevent defense at that point. Just, just triggering down, just driving downhill, you know.

Nothing behind us. Nothing behind us. Absolutely. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Keep it all in front of you. It's one of the reasons why they were so good against the Rams, man. All right, there we go. We want to give up big stuff.

There we go. The chat won. one. We'll be sure to have a tie break like that the next time that we do trivia. Ben, we really appreciate it. Enjoy vacation, my friend. Make sure that you guys are following everything that Ben is doing over at ESPN. The podcast is on, the writing stuff. It's fantastic. He's one of the best in the entire business when it comes to covering this league in and out during the season, during draft season, all that great stuff. Ben, we appreciate you joining him, my friend. Thanks, Jeff. Okay, so we are going to

wrap up the show here, but stick around. If you're watching this, for the after the episode part of this show because we're going to do a little town hall. We're going to do a little town hall type of a thing where we're going to sort of ask you guys honestly, like what you want to see from this show. So it's going to be a little bit of just a back and forth with you guys.

But we'll wrap up the show as it is. If you miss the after the episode portion of the show, we will clip it and it will be its own video sort of be like the future of NFLSC and we want to. So if you're listening after the fact, go find that episode and if you're like, oh, I would love for them to do more of this or more of this, please comment

even if you are not here for the live and we're going to discuss it here in a couple of minutes. You can leave comments and we will read the comments and all that great stuff. But for the chef, doing such a great job behind the scenes putting on this trivia. For Max Chadd, if you came up with the questions, for Benjamin Solic who joined me,

I'm Trevor Sickenuthay. And thank you guys so much for watching this episode of the NFL Stock Exchange Show. And we'll see you guys next time.