NFL Stock Exchange: An NFL Draft Podcast - NFLSE Mailbag: Chambliss QB 3 after beating UGA? Should Jets Trade up to 2? Senior Bowl vs Combine?

Episode Date: January 3, 2026

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Starting point is 00:00:00 Trinidad Chambliss draft stock after an impressive playoff, stay addicted. You're going to hear people that after last night are like, is Chambliss now going to be the second or third quarterback taken in this draft? My take is this. Heard someone was talking. I don't know what that was about. Wait, oh, wait, the picture is red chimichuri. And it's also an X on, aren't you guessed to me?
Starting point is 00:00:19 Bad. What in a cowl. Uh, J-Tech. Hey, squirts. Long-time Gooner, first-time Buster. What do you think of this? What? Oh, man.
Starting point is 00:00:30 Chartered $5 super chat. Raiders almost a top two lock. Connor, I swear to God, if your Jets pull the SOS rug from under us. Who did the Jets play this upcoming weekend? The Bills. It'll be Mitch Trubisky, but the bill's backup should kill the Jets. Yeah, they're not going to win. The most interesting game for the number one overall pick right now is the Raiders game
Starting point is 00:01:04 because they play the Chiefs and the Chiefs are dog right now. And the Raiders have had very few opportunities to beat the Chiefs over the last seven or eight years. Yep. So I don't think that they necessarily look at the Chiefs and they're like, yeah, yeah, can't we lose to the Chiefs again? That's why they shut down the players that would do that. I know, I know. Hey, Neum Max Crosby would try to kill everyone. tanking ethical tanking so if the raiders won that game i think and the giants lose the giants
Starting point is 00:01:34 because of strength of schedule would actually pick number one again they flip yes yeah the jets probably don't close the gap but there's a lot more math there that we can't really predict right now but as of today no then the jets would just the jets most likely outcome if they lose is just stay at three unless the giants beat the cowboys which like jackson dart could do anything on any given sunday we've seen them beat the eagles most likely the draft order is going to be Giants Jets. But we saw the Browns have an upset this week, so things change.
Starting point is 00:02:04 It's very true. Raiders probably a top two lock, though, yes. Ian, C. Connor, ideas for Big Tucks Task Force. One, get an intro montage like the A team. Two, name it, operation, dress down. Three question marks. Four profit.
Starting point is 00:02:20 Merch idea. Tuxedo T-shirts to mock Big Tucks. Kyle, that fun guy, Manung guy. What incredible super chat. really that's Ian you showed up with $10 and you got your absolute money's worth 100% yeah I love it let me reach out to Kyle's people and see if they're down for a collab on that because I love that idea I like operation dressed down you know you just it's it's easy to say
Starting point is 00:02:44 illiteration obviously I think that can have some movement to it newt new 10 dollar super chat that's a good name boys fell in love with the draft and draft content three years ago because of you too that's pretty awesome now have the opportunity to be a part of cheesehead TV making draft content for the pack let's go baby that's awesome new love this love to hear that they've been oh doing o g kind like packers content before digital content was really a thing that's how established they are cheese head tv is truly a pillar for a lot of football content draft content stuff so we love to hear it new if we played a part of that in any way shape of form uh it's an honor very cool to hear that for you and congratulations
Starting point is 00:03:26 needs to be able to do that. Odd estimate, Trevor's favorite listener. What's up, Slick? Just tore my labrum while surfing. Sadiq to the Broncos in the first would make me very happy. He would be their Joker. Wait. That fits.
Starting point is 00:03:40 Tours labor them all surfing. That makes sense. Land funny. Dude, that sucks. Yeah. That's a tough one. If you're being serious and I believe you are because it's definitely very, that's not a crazy like surprise.
Starting point is 00:03:53 That sucks, man. Rest up, get better. Man. get back out there yeah there you go there you go get back out on the board baby um you ever surf no i've never really had the opportunity to even like try though yeah it's you'd love it humble brag humble brag like i've been to hawaii a couple of times but i've never we've never had like nothing to do to where i would be like oh let me go let me go like try to surf today you know what i'm saying right right and and i grew up in florida
Starting point is 00:04:26 you can barely surf at all in Florida. The waves just aren't big enough to be able to do that. So no, never served. Sounds like you have. I have. I went to Costa Rica and basically did it for like eight days. But not like anything.
Starting point is 00:04:40 Did it take you while to learn? Honestly, to be capable, no. Now the people that are really, really good, it's mind blowing what they can do out there. But just to stand up on the board and, you know, handle like average waves.
Starting point is 00:04:54 No. it's a ton of fun man it's a ton of fun i don't i haven't like skied or snowboarded since i was really little so it was a cool thing to do at this age i do love snowboarding snowboarding is a lot i would love to get back into it but i feel like i would absolutely screw myself up like day one nah you got so surfing though yeah get rest up odd estimate uh ought to estimate the chat would like you to know that you just need some red chimmy cherry and then you'll be all good to go just rub it on the labrum and you'll be back out in in the waves in no time uh c ms Crespo 25
Starting point is 00:05:27 Hey there, Jibronies Classic, love it. Dwayne the Rock Johnson, love to hear it. Really going to need some pimping in Dallas, need Iber flus in the first flight out to Thailand. Thailand, beautiful time a year to go to Thailand, honestly. You don't want to go during the summer, it's too hot. This is the time.
Starting point is 00:05:42 So this is absolutely the time to be able to do it. Isn't there summer right now? I don't, I don't, I can't. This is too much for my brain. Don't, yeah, don't do that to me. Don't do that to me. I was just making an off- Just go to Thailand.
Starting point is 00:05:55 It's just going to Thailand. Don't look at the calendar. I don't think. I don't think Iber Fluse is going to be back next year. I also think that they're going to do a lot in that secondary. Like I think they're totally going to revamp that secondary outside of Revell and Durant Bland, obviously. I think there's going to be a lot of new faces that are there in Dallas.
Starting point is 00:06:15 So, yeah. Parkour, thank you for the super chat. Hello, Connor and Trevor Shrimpima. Oh, my God. Favorite player name you've eviled, Drake Anabolic. steroid's May to your chimicherry and a crustable new year. Oh, yes. Okay.
Starting point is 00:06:31 All right. Thank you. We appreciate it. I mean, I believe that's addict for well wishes into the holiday season in New Year's is what translates to addict. Right. Bull Rush McIntyre will always be my favorite, even though that's not his name. It really is now.
Starting point is 00:06:44 What is the best? T.J. Sanders. What is the best prospect name? I don't know. Because the guys with crazy names are. never like remember storm duck how could we forget right he wasn't very good though he's still in the league he's on the dolphins is he i didn't know that the dolphin secondary is very interesting this year to be fair storm storm duck is apparently on the dolphins um and do i have another one storm dog's a really
Starting point is 00:07:16 good one honestly demarvey and overshowen's a sick name that's a good name that's a sick name that's a sick defensive player name. I don't know if I know anybody else. That's actually a really good question. Yeah, we'll think on it. We'll ponder on that one. Mediocrity incarnate, $10 super chat. Who do you sunny boys have winning the Make a Wish Bowl on Saturday at 4.30 p.m. Eastern?
Starting point is 00:07:44 Oh, wow, Trev. That is like, oh my God. You, uh, why are people really like poking the bear with you today? damn that game got sponsored that's awesome congratulations that is the panthers i can't laugh i watch the jets just look like barely an exit no i know i know so i have no laughter here i i i think carolina wins baker mayfield's been one of if not the worst quarterback in the nflb for the last two and a half months he's he's hurt right like we confidently i mean i hope that's what it is yeah which is a weird thing to say right but it's like you because he has been the worst. The worst. He has the most turnover where he plays in the NFL right now. He is
Starting point is 00:08:30 bottom five in turnover where they play percentage. He is bottom five in uncatchable, inaccurate passes. The misses are startling for him. He has been the worst quarterback in the NFL efficiency-wise over the last two months. He is the reason why they're losing games. He is the reason why they don't have an offensive identity because they can't have any consistency because he's not consistent enough for them. And Mayfield, for the first six weeks of the season, was an MVP candidate. So that's the frustrating part. But on Carolina side of things,
Starting point is 00:08:59 I have no idea what Panthers team I'm going to get. No, that's why. They've been so Jekyll and Hyde all season long. I had no idea. Yeah, I don't even know what to make of this game. I think it's, I think that it's just absolute, it is just beautiful
Starting point is 00:09:14 that the whole country has to watch the one game on at 4.30 on a Saturday. Yeah, making it an isolated game. is special stuff. It's just beautiful, beautiful stuff. I think Carolina wins. I do. I think Carolina wins. I think the, I think the bucks are kind of mentally checked out. So, Slentzai, that playful person who took the city of Tampa by storm in his first interview and was like, yeah, I love blitzes. We give that grace to young coaches, big dog, you're supposed to
Starting point is 00:09:43 be our HC1 and you're coaching like a bum. Yeah, I mean, that's that's kind of the way to I do feel a little bit for Todd Bowles in the in the sense. that I do think it's players just not executing the way that they need to. Like there's only so much teaching Todd Bowles can do. Right. And like the guys have to go out and do it. They're just not doing it. And unfortunately for him, that falls on your shoulders.
Starting point is 00:10:08 I think Todd Bowles has gone whether the Bucks win on Saturday and make the playoffs or not. I really do. Chad, five dollar super chat. So up guys. Love the show. Big on the draft now because of y'all. Should I go to the senior bowl or the NFL Combine? this year for the first time. I would absolutely tell you to go to the Senior Bowl.
Starting point is 00:10:27 Interesting. I would 100% say it would tell you to go to the senior ball because you get to watch actual football being played. Right. You get to be in the stands. You get to go to the game. Now, if you were credentialed, it's kind of cool going to the combine. So I agree. Chad, I don't mean to, you know, I don't mean to disrespect you. Maybe you got to maybe you've got even better access into credential than we do. But the combine is a much, much, much better event to watch at your house on TV than it is to go to. The whole reason why you would go to the combine is because of the days leading up to the actual events that you think of when you think of the combine. It's to go to the podiums, to talk to the coaches, to talk to the general managers,
Starting point is 00:11:11 to talk to the players, to do all that kinds of stuff. Because when it comes to actually watching the guys run the 40, do the vert, the broad, the bench, all that kinds of stuff, you get a better view at home. You get a much better view watching the broadcast than you do if you were actually in Indianapolis. So Senior Bowl, you get better access and you get to watch actual football being played. So I would say to Senior Bowl if you have a chance to go. Axel Ron 2286.
Starting point is 00:11:35 Thank you for the Super Chat. Start bench cut. Ed Ed Nettie, Samurai Jack, Courage the Cowardly Dog. Well, I'm cutting courage to cowardly dog because I just got too weird for me. Just got too weird for me. I know the hipster thing to do would be to start Samurai Jack because I think if you were really into Samurai Jack you probably loved it but I was an Ed Ed Nettie guy
Starting point is 00:11:54 so I'm starting at Ed Nettie, I'm benching Samurai Jack and I'm cutting courage to Cowardly Dog So you know what's wild I have not seen any of these Brother Is this Cartoon Network? Yes I didn't have Cartoon Network as a kid
Starting point is 00:12:11 I was a Nickelodeon kid You didn't have cartoon network? No, it wasn't in our cable package so like for me this time if i say tsunami you know what that is no dude i didn't see any of this i had actually like ed netty i know of but i don't know samurai jack or courage the cowardly dog i just as soon as it has to be cartoon network show because i don't know any of it damn for me somebody said i'm not a real person i didn't have cartoon network what do you want from me all you rich kids dude coming home from school and turning on Tunei
Starting point is 00:12:47 was just an absolute staple of middle school. Just a staple. I've just like, the chat has never hated me more. Have you ever watched Dragon Ball Z? Yes. Okay.
Starting point is 00:13:00 But Dragon Ball Z wasn't on Cartoon Network. I remember Dragon Ball Z being on really early in the morning on a normal channel. So it was, but the main way that I watched Dragon Ball Z was on Tunei, which was this, I think Tuna me was a two-hour,
Starting point is 00:13:16 block i believe it was from like four to six if i remember correctly p m eastern time and it was it was obviously four different half hour shows and dragon ball z was one of them like batman begins was one of them dragon ball z was one of them um i think kids next door was one of them but anyways that's how i mainly watch dragon ball z man this guy's saying the tunami was late night what am i mixing it up with then what was the afternoon one i thought tunami was the one that was i'm just floored by how many people are like
Starting point is 00:13:56 cartoon network stands because for me growing up and everybody i knew we all just watched nicolodian is this a regional thing am i like i'm so i also so i also watched okay so tunami also used to be after school and then it moved to also late night.
Starting point is 00:14:18 I remember that correctly. Okay, okay, okay. All right, all right, right. No, I watched Nickelodeon and Cartoon Network. Okay. So I did both. Okay. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:14:27 Interesting. Yeah. I mean, yeah, William just said as long as Connor knows SpongeBob references. He's slurred. I feel like all I did was watch Sponoff. Oh, dude. Gundam Wing. Holy cow.
Starting point is 00:14:38 That's a throwback, too. Man. I might have to go back and, like, have a second childhood and just watch all this stuff. I mean, you need to, dude. All right, in the chat. Anybody in the chat ever watch Zoids? Come on. There's somebody out there that has.
Starting point is 00:14:52 Just these absolute mech warrior animal-looking things. Phenomenal. Phenomenal. Man, like all this is so foreign to me. I'm thinking like Invader Zim over here. Cat dog. Yeah, I mean, Invader Zim was wild. Yeah, yeah, wild.
Starting point is 00:15:10 So this chat from LP, it's hard to see why some podcast listeners think the super chats derailed the show. it's amazing hey that's why we're doing it Liger Zero baby yes God yeah it's the first time I'm seeing most of these Original Power Rangers Yes yes Yes
Starting point is 00:15:30 Dude angry beavers what a reference Grimm adventures What Okay anyways All right we got to keep moving That was a great super cheque Spawned an awesome combo Yeah it did
Starting point is 00:15:41 Dylan Cole Thank you for the $5 superchat Come on big wheel Daddy needs a new offensive line. Justin, fine, I'll do it myself, Herbert. Sorry, you did not get the chargers today. Frosted eggshells, thank you for the $2 super chat. Heard someone was talking.
Starting point is 00:15:57 We don't curse on the YouTube shows, but I don't know what that was about. What was it about? Well, it's long. Oh, wait. The picture is red chimicherry. Oh. And it's also an X on on Arjikestimates.
Starting point is 00:16:13 Dad, what an account. Frosted eggshells. Good job cracking the case, by the way, Trevor. Oh, man. Yeah. No, look, I recognize that red chimmy cherry when I see it. Did I have some today? You probably.
Starting point is 00:16:26 You probably did. E&C. Thank you again. $100 if you don't land on the Packers, not really bear down. Estimate equals the league winner. This is from Dalton, $2 super chat. Red Chimmy Churry equals Cheeks. The Civil War has begun.
Starting point is 00:16:41 Wiscoe, thank you for the $5 super chat. Who's to say cheeks are always a bad thing? That's what I'm just saying. Go ahead. Go ahead. Go ahead. Controversial take. Go ahead. After Saturday's performance, I'll put up $250 to do an in-depth pimping on the Packers' Chies. All right. We'll see how many funns we could raise. Whenever we do get the Packers on the wheel, it'll be biblical. It really will be.
Starting point is 00:17:02 Max, $10, super chat. What's up, Squirts? Big fan of the show. I've learned a lot. Glad to have you along, Max. Appreciate you being part of the addicts. Do you think that Malik Willis is a viable option for teams like the Colts or the Cardinals is a starting QB, or is you just high-end backup. I absolutely think that Malik Willis is going to get starting quarterback consideration this obviously. He's going to be signed as one. Absolutely. Yep. He's a free agent or no? Yeah, free agent.
Starting point is 00:17:25 Okay. I think he's going to get like a three-year $70 million deal. Dude, I mean, I don't Maybe I'm, maybe it's like the guarantees is what matters when I say that. But he's going to be signed as a starting quarterback somewhere. There's too many quarterback needs and not enough draft supply. I agree
Starting point is 00:17:43 with you. I agree with you. The Cardinals, the dolphins, depending what you think it should do, there's going to be way too many teams that are like, we need to upgrade a quarterback, we can't get one in the draft that's ready to play. I'll take a spin on Malik Willis. Right. No, some team is absolutely bringing him into,
Starting point is 00:17:59 at the very least, compete for a starting spot. I agree. Okay, Sully, thank you for the super chat. Can I get a shout out because I just finished my second year at PFF as the part-time data collector? Shout out to Sully, man. So happy I've been able to contribute my first year old sports work. Congrats, man.
Starting point is 00:18:15 I appreciate it, Sully. The work that you do helps power this show and allows me to do my job the way that I do. So you are the true hero here. I appreciate you, Sully. Thank you for all the work that you do with PFF. Very cool that you're enjoying the part-time data collection stuff. That's awesome. Bryce, $20 super chat.
Starting point is 00:18:35 Have you small fries ever considered careers in crime fighting? I think you could be Bikini Bottom's next great duo. Piss hands, man. Uncrustible boy, much love. Go Charger. Nicely done, Bryce. Well done. That is good.
Starting point is 00:18:52 And good Nickelodeon reference for all these maniacs out here that are just all about cartoon network. Jop man. Jop mom. Thank you for the $10 super chat. How much do other people's opinions affect you? We've had this combo a lot, but it's a good time to have it again. Like if you have a player at 45 overall and Kuiper has them in his top 10,
Starting point is 00:19:09 do you go back and reevaluate the player or just say good for him? So number one, the first thing I'll say, and then I'll toss to you, Trev. For me, what's more important is the opposite. If I have a player like 12th overall and consensus, I wouldn't just be like Kiper. It would be consensus has him or people I know that are plugged into certain areas, have him like 50th. I wouldn't change the player.
Starting point is 00:19:36 I would ask the people I know, like, hey, is this guy have something that I need to know about? Am I just high on him? is there a medical or character red flag that I need to. That's the only thing it changes for me is background. What you think of the tape
Starting point is 00:19:51 and what you think of the prospect's projection is what you think. Yeah. And you can go back and like, you know, triple scout a player. Right. But I guess the short answer for your version of it is no.
Starting point is 00:20:04 Yeah, I agree. I think that there are other people who might be a little bit more plugged into the side of things that you can't see with the tape. You know, some of the character evaluation some of the medical flags that might be there for people, you know, like, whatever. And sometimes when you get really plugged in people who end up being looking like outliers
Starting point is 00:20:22 versus, you know, what you see on film, it's worth maybe reaching out to them or sort of double checking what your work is. But to be honest with you, I struggled with that a lot more before the last couple of seasons where especially with me doing the PFF big board, I kind of felt a lot of pressure to like, okay, well, I want the mock draft simulator to work correctly. I'd sort of move a player up my board to be a little bit closer to maybe like where it consensus was and things like that now I don't have to do this because our system is much different now now we have a consensus board versus my actual board what I think of players
Starting point is 00:20:56 so I think the answer to your question is is a lot closer to sort of what Connor was saying where you don't want to let somebody else like totally sway what you're seeing on a player or if you do like you have to have like a real conversation of it like here's an example John Ledyard is a great friend of the program. I think that John has a very good mind for scouting and football and things like that. Yes, he does. If we very much disagree on a player, I will have a conversation with him and we'll talk about it, about strength and weakness is this thing like that. And sometimes you come away with it and you go, all right, yeah, okay.
Starting point is 00:21:33 Like maybe I was being a little bit too harsh on somebody in a certain way, but you also like have to believe it. You can't just like take somebody's ranking and be like, oh, shoot. this guy has this player ranked 15th overall, I better move him up. You better be able to have a conversation with that person and say, hey, I've got this guy ranked 65, you've got to rank 15. Why do you love him so much? And you've got to be able to buy in to what they're saying, because if you don't,
Starting point is 00:21:57 and I think that's often the part that gets missed is, is if you ask somebody their advice and a prospect, that's totally fine. But you've got to have some conviction, right? Like, you've got to have conviction on what you watch. You can't just be like, oh, yeah, all right, that sounds, yeah, that sounds great. Like, I totally believe with what you're saying now. There have been plenty of times where I'll have conversation with people,
Starting point is 00:22:20 and sometimes it's convincing. And I go, okay, let me go back and watch this player and see if I see the same things that you do. But there are other times where I'll see him, and I'll hear what somebody else is saying. I'll be like, all right, let me go back and watch, see if I miss this. And I'll go, I don't think I miss this. Right. I think I see this guy the way that I see this guy. And I'm not going to move them.
Starting point is 00:22:37 So, yeah, it's a great question. I think a lot of people think, about that when they're scouting but yeah like pig said germane burton being exhibit a i mean that's a good callback like i had germain burton 99th overall he went 80th in that draft i thought he was probably a top 75 talent but everybody everybody in the industry knew he was a disaster off the field and that's unfortunate it's unfortunate but and my final ranking so it's cool about mbc they put a column next to my ranking of where i had the guy on my last board so You could actually see that I had him 85th on the second of last board I did
Starting point is 00:23:15 and then dropped them all the way to 99th on the final board, which tells you, like, unfortunately, you hear some things that, you know, give you a little bit of concern. Yep. D's says, happy for you, brother Connor. Sunday night, very well deserved. Can't wait to see what's next. What happened?
Starting point is 00:23:33 I don't know, but thank you. All right. Maybe he's congratulated. Is it the jet stuff? Congratulations me that the jet season ends Sunday night. They're a 425 game. But I really appreciate the kind message. Danger's own $2 Super Chat.
Starting point is 00:23:46 I can't wait for what's next either. Maybe you can. Maybe it's a threat. I don't know. Hopefully not. Don't not leave my house. Danger's zone $2 Super Chat. Friends don't let friends slander Sadie.
Starting point is 00:23:57 Let's slander it. You killed him. I'm just bringing in conversation. Ian $5 Super Chat. We respect Juice Howard. OJ. Howard. In this house, he was my madden franchise goat in the group franchises. Yeah, you got to mean.
Starting point is 00:24:10 He's the perfect player for that, 100%. Brendo, thank you for the super chat. Super excited for the Senior Bowl. First time I'll be there in person. Say hi to me and Trev. Yeah, we'll be around. Yeah, we will be around. Snack Scott, thank you for the 10 bucks.
Starting point is 00:24:21 Hi, guys, first time, long time. Wanted to see who would be the top half, and a two guys in a trench coat between you two. I'll hang up and listen. It has to be you because you can, you can squat and deadlift way more than I can't. I don't know about way more. What's your?
Starting point is 00:24:38 Especially, I don't, I don't, I retire. from powerlifting. I guess back in the day. Okay. What's your all-time PR for squat? Probably at like a 1-75-ish weight, like only 315. Okay. Squat's definitely my weakest.
Starting point is 00:25:05 Deadlift is where I would have an advantage when I did compete because I don't have long arms. and like that was just an easier part to train so like benching and deadlift is where I'd make up the numbers on the squat I actually feel like it's weird I feel like legs are like legs because all you care about when you're older is like doing legs but when you're like a meathead and you're younger you're like I want to I want to just do upper body all the time it's funny how it goes I think this is a good question no this is a great question my my max squat ever and I I have like longer legs so my squat is so weird like my center of gravity is so sucks for doing like regular squats. I mean, I exclusively front squat now. I was going to say, I don't put a bar unless it's a safety bar on my back anymore
Starting point is 00:25:48 just because it's just nice to avoid the injury. Right. But I like to front squat and honestly it's just more like you just get a better burn and, uh, you know, it's a lot more, it's a lot more quad isolated for me. Yes.
Starting point is 00:26:01 And we're just all about isolated muscles on this show. Yeah. Like it's all about a state. Make no mistake. We are not here for numbers anymore. We're here purely. aesthetics and somebody asked if I was a powerlifter if you look very closely in my backdrop next to my top helmet that's the one thing I have in my backdrop from it wow I actually had
Starting point is 00:26:20 a dumbass drunk friend break my other trophy it was like actually a cooler one that you could tell as a trophy not a plaque you know and your idiot friends are over and okay what was the deadlift then deadlift at that same weight yeah was like just a hair under 500 like I could I could do like four 65. Like I said, I had to make up numbers because my squat stinks. My max squat
Starting point is 00:26:48 ever, I think I was, I think I was a little over like 190, weighed a little over 190. It was like 3.15. But then my max deadlift ever is like 325. Again, like just because
Starting point is 00:27:03 my legs, like my longer legs and my weird center of gravity and like how my hip hinges. Yeah, we have way different builds. And I could never protect my lower back the way that I needed to to lift heavy deadlifting. So like my max deadlift is like 325 ever. Right. Because if I went over that, I would get hurt 100%.
Starting point is 00:27:25 Right. And now when you get into your 30s, kiddos, those days are over. No, no, no, no, no, no, no, no. Yeah. All right. So maybe I am the base. I think you're the base. I'll pop me around.
Starting point is 00:27:37 I think you have more of the, you have more of the. inspector gadget arms to reach things with the code on. I think we can't do an answer. I think this is good. Yeah. Courtney, 10-hour super chat. Assuming that the Jets stay at number three, Dante is the target. But teams are allegedly in play to jump the Jets.
Starting point is 00:27:55 What's a reasonable ransom to pay the New York Giants or do we gamble and stat pat and stand pat in number two? Round two Dallas pick. oh are you saying like the base answer of this is it probably starts with the the doubt like you're only going from three to two but the giant should have other offers you start that call i think with dallas's second rounder like hey you get to get the player you want because you're only swapping with us to three and we'll give you dallas's second rounder and then you pray that a team doesn't do something insane and now bids you because you really don't want to be given up you're not giving up the colts first rounder
Starting point is 00:28:34 you're not giving up your own second rounder i agree the problem is going to be how desperate the cardinals are and now the cardinals are sitting in number five there's no answer to this question right now because we don't know what other teams will do but the base answer is if you were just doing the trade today without anyone involved the giants would probably get the jets second rounder they got in the quinn and williams trade from dallas and just do the swap yeah um de solder two Super Chat. How tall is Zurich Armstead? Six, seven. Yeah. I really was trying to find a creative way to avoid it, and I'm not intelligent
Starting point is 00:29:11 enough. Jay Tech, hey, squirts. We're on to you, D. Sauter. Longtime Gooner, first time, Buster. What do you think about that? Oh, man. What are you guys there? By the way. didn't know the slang term before the podcast started and Tyler had to let me know so had no idea until about you know 90 minutes
Starting point is 00:29:38 it's good to have the chef man around it's great to have the chef because he gets it when we don't which we appreciate it what do you think about Coziel after his bowl game and how perfect is he for Drake Drake May May
Starting point is 00:29:50 I didn't watch his bowl game actually neither did I we haven't gotten to tight ends yet so I will be sure to watch the bowl game as one of the games We did talk a lot about him on summer scouting, I feel like. Or stock up, stock up, maybe both, both. I think he had a really big week where we were talking about him, summer scouting. I mean, stock up, and we did summer scouting.
Starting point is 00:30:11 So tight end soon, hopefully. What did you do in the bowl game? What did they just throw him? Nine catches, 76 yards in a touchdown. Man, I was expecting three touchdowns with him. Pretty good. Also, don't say his height. No, I know.
Starting point is 00:30:28 I could never do that. Ty, $5 Super Chat. Hey, Trevor, it was good seeing in Chipotle last week, but it was messed up that you started screaming at my son for not getting red chimmy cherry. Well, it sounds like you should raise your kids better. Screaming. Ty, Super Chat.
Starting point is 00:30:43 He hasn't stopped crying. Big fan of the pods. Good. What do you think I was screaming at him? You're teaching a lesson. Yeah, exactly. I got to get the lesson across. Andrew, thank you for the $5 super chat.
Starting point is 00:30:52 Had a horrible holiday season because no NFL SE live content. I need eight straight days of mock drafts for Hanukkah next year. Lock in, boys. Challenge accepted. Trinidady, thank you for the $2.2 super chat. Mackay, God had nothing to do with it, Levin. That's really good. That's really
Starting point is 00:31:10 good. Jayburg 74. Thank you for the super chat. Not a Saints fan, but don't think it's insane to take Shuck his best quarterback in that division going in the next year. He should definitely be offensive rookie the year, Drake May. I don't think that's a, it's not like an egregious take. I don't think he's the best QB in that division
Starting point is 00:31:25 going into next year. I agree that he should be, he's potentially offensive. Yeah, I, I put back combo. And the quarterback combo, I think that's maybe a step too far. I think healthy Baker. Yeah, I can't take it away from Healthy Baker yet. Baker's got to continue to be bad. It's just been a bad, but I mean, like, Chuck's been amazing.
Starting point is 00:31:43 I was slow to admit the offensive rookie of the year thing, but he is, I mean, what he has done for that team over the last five weeks, but specifically over the last three weeks, has been unbelievably impressive, super impressed. And it's really good that they have some confidence and hope going into 2020. with him at quarterback and they don't have to think about drafting one in the subseason this off season.
Starting point is 00:32:04 Six, which is the alter ego maybe, like nine, that's what I'm guessing. I like that. Good day. When nine to five gets off his shift,
Starting point is 00:32:14 six goes into work. Six goes into work. Gade from Australia. Good day. Love that. I'm 210 centimeters and jacked 120 kilograms.
Starting point is 00:32:27 Oh, no, not the conversions. I was told there would be no math. From your perspective, what was the biggest cause of death for the lions this year? Talent or coaching? Injuries. Yeah, injuries probably one. I think coaching is probably two. Yeah, the transition to John Morton was not smooth.
Starting point is 00:32:48 No. Especially when the head coach asked to take over. Grant, are you going to the Shrine Bowl? Trevor will definitely be there, not to speak for him. Right? You'll be there? as of now why do i why do i like say i'm not going to speak for you and then i'm like Trevor's gone
Starting point is 00:33:01 good lord willing in the creek don't rise as my dad would say yeah i'm going to be there your dad is a lot of gem of i sayings ideas lifestyles saw i saw him this past weekend it was great to see him he's shocked full of it that's the best i got to watch got to watch the tampa bay lightning yeah what it oh nice against brother against the panther so get this real quick so the lightning played the Panthers on Saturday, they had the NHL assigned the refs that were the officials for the Stanley Cup final.
Starting point is 00:33:37 They put them on the Bolt's Panthers game because they knew it was going to be an absolute royal rumble. And boy howdy, was it ever. The NHL needs to rethink this and you need like, you need like prime stone cold Steve Austin and Kane an undertaker to be out on the ice to break that up. The lightning and the Panthers are genuinely reviving
Starting point is 00:34:00 the Aves Red Wings 2000 rivalry. Yeah, which is there are an insane level of fights and penalties every single time they lace up. They kill each other in the preseason. And they've won the last
Starting point is 00:34:16 they've won four out of the last five cups. That's something they're both so well run and talented and successful. Yeah, who got the dub on Saturday though? There you go. Talk your ish, pal. I had to stop myself on you too. I pick $5 super chap. What's up, Pipsqueaks?
Starting point is 00:34:32 Olaf from Scotland. Rams tidbit. 23 cycle less, quote, if you think we're drafting O-line with our first round pick, you don't know Coach McVeigh, end quote. All right, so they can't draft linebacker. They can't draft offensive line. Jordan Tyson, it is.
Starting point is 00:34:49 They're not going to drop defensive line. They can't draft guys who are injured. He's pissed. He's had enough. you're right how many of these are we going to what are we going to have I know
Starting point is 00:35:03 it's it's the listen our job is not very I'm fake mad by the way I'm not actually mad I forgot to answer the shrine bowl question I most likely will not because I have to go senior bowl week
Starting point is 00:35:17 and then Super Bowl week back to back so he's scared to compete I'm clearly scared to compete three weeks in a row three weeks in a row. I'll have to just pipe down and watch the tape. BM Welker, thank you for the $5 super check. Currently curled in a ball, screaming, crying, and throwing up now that I know you won't be fixing my Bengals.
Starting point is 00:35:36 I mean, what we're going to mock draft? We're going to draft for them, which is even better. Jonathan, thank you for the $10 super chat. What if the Brown's clean house, the coaching staff, Jim Schwartz becomes available for next DC job? What team could snatch him for the D.C. job? Schwartz for Washington would be fascinating. The thing is with Jim, like, Jim Schwartz, like, you just got to give him the defense. like it's not a big collaborative with him and Dan Quinn.
Starting point is 00:35:57 No, yeah, I don't think too. I think he's kind of like, you hire me and now I'm the second coach where he has full autonomy over the defense because he's great at it. Dallas. That's the power move. Dallas. Or the Giants. Ooh.
Starting point is 00:36:19 Because the Giants have the dogs up front. They have the dogs up front. They have the dogs up. front. Giants should go get Jim Schwartz if they hire a non-defensive head coach, which I think they will. Yeah, I like that. I like that.
Starting point is 00:36:30 Short round, $10 super chat. Connor does radiate Nickelodeon energy. I don't know what that means, but you're right. Your takes on the ringer, Sheel Kapati idea that the playoff teams should be allowed to trade a first for anyone just for the playoff run. So playoff teams, so Sheila is saying that playoff teams should be able to. able to offer a first-round pick to teams, they're giving the team a first-round pick.
Starting point is 00:36:59 They get that player for just the playoff run, and then they have to give them back. So like... I hate it. Who's the team with the worst quarterback right now in the playoffs? Well, the Panthers, technically, right? Either way, this doesn't matter. The Pounders won't be happy with you, but yeah, probably.
Starting point is 00:37:20 Yeah, okay, well, pounders, say you make the playoffs. you can just trade your first rounder for Joe Burrow for Joe Burrow yeah that's yeah I mean this is really fun from Sheel but it's bat shit you know what I don't know what I didn't even I didn't do it right The take the take brought it out of you
Starting point is 00:37:41 No it's I'm sorry It's a fun idea for chaos but I I don't like I was supposed to say It's bad you know what crazy Yeah I'm really just fried Yeah That was bad. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:37:53 Yeah. Just ruin our YouTube channel? Yes. You're shutting us down? Yeah, it's you know what shit crazy. That's like the dumbest thing I've ever said in the list of really dumb things. Jackson, $5 super chat. Let me cook for a second.
Starting point is 00:38:08 All right. Cook, young man. It Harbaugh part ways Brian Flores to be the perfect Ravens coach. All right, you cook. Sure. I think, I think Brian Flores should. You've talked about this. Brian Flores is, I think, my favorite
Starting point is 00:38:22 coaching candidate. Right. And I don't even know if he'll get an interview, but the guy is, he'll be exceptional, his second chance. There you go. That's my take. Luke, Audric Estime, Estime, thank you, Luke. I'm going to power through these
Starting point is 00:38:38 because I haven't seen my family in days. Sad Giants Leaves fan. Good job on the Giants fix your franchise. When the wheel runs out of teams, please do the impossible and fix my Maple Leafs. I like that. Giants Leafs fan. Interesting.
Starting point is 00:38:54 I know Toronto's not that far away. So you're probably can, you are Canadian because I see the currency. You're Canadian. You started watching American football before the bills were good. And you chose the Giants because they were the closest relevant franchise.
Starting point is 00:39:09 I get it. Okay. Yeah. There's no problem with that pathway at all. It just kind of stinks for you now because like bills are down the road and they're pretty good. Jackson, there are $10 Super Chat, cash in on a $53, $53 in Scratchers today.
Starting point is 00:39:23 So you boys get another. My question is, easy there, partner. With the giant, it's easy money bags. All right. The Giants really let the Jets move up for a franchise quarterback, given the locality rivalry competition for fan money. Interesting. No, this is a real thing. And I don't know the answer.
Starting point is 00:39:41 There's always a price. I wonder if they charge the Jets attacks, like you do to division teams. Yeah, a little bit of a division tag. If you're the Giants, you also need to do what's best for you because you stink. You need to get out of stinking. So if the Jets give you a good offer and you just move to three and get the best player on your board, you can't think about it like, well, the Jets cross town. No, you got to worry about winning in the NFC.
Starting point is 00:40:03 I agree. Because you haven't done it in a long time. Yeah, I agree. So I agree there might be attacks there, but the Giants just need to do the best football move. DG, $2, Super Chat. No question. Just sad about the bucks. What about you, Trab?
Starting point is 00:40:14 Been sad since 1991, brother. Master Andrew $2, $2,000, super chat. No, I'm just kidding, no, I'm just kidding. I knew that that one would actually trigger you. I almost let it slip, slide. No, hey, I'm just excited because they're probably going to have a head coaching opening and that'll be fun to actually go through that. Matt, this is the last one.
Starting point is 00:40:34 Master Andrew, $2. I do it every two years. Super chat. Maybe every one, depending on what happens this off season. Stick around. It gets shorter and shorter. Which teams in the top 10 could draft offensive line. and defensive line.
Starting point is 00:40:47 Well, all right, let's do it. Let's close it out with the. I mean, the Titans could absolutely draft an edge rusher.
Starting point is 00:40:53 I think they're in their conversation for that. Washington absolutely could draft an edge rusher. New Orleans could draft an edge rusher or potentially even an offensive lineman.
Starting point is 00:41:01 Kansas City could absolutely draft a defensive lineman as well. Cincinnati, both sides of the ball. I think that they're, I think that they could, although their offensive lines
Starting point is 00:41:10 playing actually really well as of late. The Browns could take Fano. Yes, yeah, Cleveland. You're right. I was thinking to the defensive line, but I skipped over them. He has a really good process.
Starting point is 00:41:19 They go, we need a line. Yeah, there you go. Offensive line. Absolutely. Uh, I appreciate you guys. Bang, bang, let's go. That's what Brock Purdy said after the Niners won. I like that.
Starting point is 00:41:27 It's like my new, it's like my new thing. Bang, bang, let's go. I just walk around and every building I walk in, I yell bang. I got come home from work and I go bang, bang, let's go. And everyone's fired up. No, I have your wife or your dog. I already have their bags packed. And they're like, we didn't know how to tell you.
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Starting point is 00:43:00 Colossal Cody, told my boss I needed to leave work early from my sex addict meeting, got off work early but got some weird stares from coworkers. Very well done. Maybe next time just say my local addicts meeting. He'll keep them guessing what you're addicted to. Axel Ron, thank you for the $5 super chat. Start Bench Cut, Fairly Odd Parents, SpongeBob, Avatar, the last Airbender.
Starting point is 00:43:22 Okay, this one I could actually answer because I've seen two or three of these. Start SpongeBob, I'll bench fairly odd parents. I haven't seen Avatar, which I know is very popular, so I'll probably get roasted for that. Bryce Henry, I canceled a work call for this, and these gibronies are late, crazy stuff. Yeah, that's classic us. Sorry, Bryce. Gavin Gardner. Drake need to see Trev on.
Starting point is 00:43:44 R. Carator's man, May. Very nice, Gavin. Park Corps. Happy New Year's Connor and Trevor can't believe shrimp a muff fried this rice. Happy New Year's pal. Trinity had Chambliss giraffe stock after an impressive playoff. Stay addicted. So I really wanted to talk about this today on the show, but we just had too much with the running backs. I know this is arguably the hottest topic in college football right now with the giraffe. The last we've heard publicly is Chambliss wants to play college football next year. He's applied to get another year of eligibility. These are one of those situations that are so hard to get a read on.
Starting point is 00:44:21 We've seen plenty of players get it for whatever reasons. Medical, who knows, we've seen guys get denied. I think that one, that makes the most sense for him as electric as last night was. And he's been really good this year. But he can make a ton of NIL money. He is an older prospect. So, of course, you could argue that might hurt him if he stays. but it didn't hurt Tyler Shuck.
Starting point is 00:44:44 So I don't know how. If you could play, you could play. He's been playing at an extremely high level. It's not that the playoff was the first time I took him really seriously as a prospect, because Trevor had him on a sock up back in September or October, where we've been watching him. But he's now overcoming some of the labels he's getting. He's not the biggest guy.
Starting point is 00:45:04 I think he's listed six feet tall. We'll see if he comes in at six feet when he eventually has an NFL combine. I don't think he has the biggest arm, but he's thrown with touch. and some of the throws he made in the playoff last night was the best his arm has looked in my opinion. So my take is this. You're going to hear people that after last night are like,
Starting point is 00:45:22 is Chambliss now going to be the second or third quarterback taken in this draft? And maybe that feels a touch too far in the moment. But much like some guys that have risen up the boards this year, going back to the Fernando Mendoza conversation, who's different because he has prototypical size, arm, all that. if Trinidad ends up in this draft and continues to play really well in the playoff and ends up being a second round, like top of second round kind of pick in that mold of somewhere in the Jackson Dart to Tyler Shuck range from last year, that wouldn't shock me
Starting point is 00:45:56 at all. And then, Wiscoe, I see you in the chat saying, what if they win Natty? I've heard for a lot of these prospects that haven't had to make their decision yet, that's what it leans on. So I don't know why that would be different for him unless he gets feeding. that the NFL just doesn't like him. Feels like the public likes him. Feels like draft analysts are really warming up to him.
Starting point is 00:46:15 This is a guy that's well-traveled knowing his long college career path, no-star recruit, undersized. But man, like at the end of the day, if you could play, you could play. And he's playing his best football right now when it matters the most. So I think for Chambliss right now, that is a wait and see and a really important topic to cover today. Once again, to recap, I think he wants to go back to school, but things could change, and we've seen things get crazy with quarterback classes in a hurry.
Starting point is 00:46:42 Wisko said Jonah Coleman is the Mike Evans of Audrick Estimates. He's a little shorter than Estimate, but yeah, definitely a more talented player. Tony Lee, thank you for the $10 super chat, Tony. Happy New Year, guys, in honor of RB Day, who is your favorite running back? And have you scattered all time besides the obvious Audrake Estimate? I think it's Sequan Barkley, and I know that feels a mommos of boring answer. I think that Sequin just had this ability to truly turn, you know, like when Sequin was coming out, there was people that was that genuinely, not just fans, like people in the NFL
Starting point is 00:47:18 and in media that were like, is this the closest thing we've seen to Barry Sanders in terms of bouncing around outside, making three people miss and going 100 miles an hour down the field? Like, that's how special Sequan really was as a prospect. So I'd probably say him, really enjoyed scouting him. Harry, thank you for the $10 super chat. What's up, guys from the UK, massive fan of Connor since the STF days and Trevor from his locked on days. Thank you, Harry.
Starting point is 00:47:45 Keep up the good work. The pot has gotten me through some tough times as of late, Drake May. Thank you very much, Harry, and send you all our best, man. Really appreciate that. Hudson Gonzalez, thank you for the $5 super chat. What's up, Unks?
Starting point is 00:47:58 What class did you main in Destiny 1? Obviously, only tightening it just the pot. I didn't play Destiny 1, but Trevor had a great answer to that earlier. Fredo, thank you for the Super Chat. Haven't seen you guys since last year. Looking forward to another great year of football. Yes, 2012, 26 would be the best yet for this pod. Chubalub, always good to see you with the Super Chats.
Starting point is 00:48:14 Goatmeyer does not care about refs. No, he does not truck stick. Nicholas, thank you for the Super Chat. Hot take, even though Keontte Scott is a pure Nickel Corner, he's still going to be a first rounder. I think age and I don't know if it's athleticism or size. We'll keep him out of the first, but he is one hell of a football player.
Starting point is 00:48:35 Well, probably one of my better calls this draft season. I feel like I've been, you know, I've been late coming around on Fernando Mendoza and some guys like that, but it was good to get eyes on Keonté Scott earlier in the season. He is an absolute dog, absolute dog. And one of those guys that he can cover in the slot, but he's so violent against the run. And that's what everybody in the NFL is looking for today. Look at Cooper DeGine. Ben, the Cardinals, fan.
Starting point is 00:49:01 Happy New Year's little guys. Thank you, Ben. Same to you. Sully. Desmond Reed is the Mugsy Pogs of Mike Evans. That's awesome, silly. Jay Markle, thank you for the super chat. No disrespect intended, but why do media folks keep wishcasting DPRs to the lines
Starting point is 00:49:17 when Holmes Campbell simply refused to invest in those kind of rushers? I can only answer for us. Trevor and I, full transparency, like all our mock drafts before the new year, I feel like we're kind of just talking about the best players. After the new year, we do try to do a lot more. We think this is what the team will do. So if you read a mock draft early, a lot of times people are just looking at who the best players are or what they would do. But if you have a fair gripe, if it's the month of the draft and people think the lions are going to take a style of player that they never, ever draft.
Starting point is 00:49:48 So I think that's fair to call out. But also, you've got to know when, you know, when sometimes people aren't writing them a certain way. All right, let's keep it going here. Al Coben, thank you for the super chat. Please remove guard is a big need for the Panthers and the people. of a simulator. I keep seeing Bozos take guard in the first and needs to stop Lewis and Hunt. I don't run the simulator, so I can't help you there, but I'll pass the note along.
Starting point is 00:50:13 Game Lord Vault. Thank you for the $5. Super Chat. I will go into crippling financial debt if I get to see Emmett Johnson on the Broncos. That'd be a pretty awesome fit, although they have a lot of running backs right now. But the spot could open up in the offseason. Samuel Ludwig, thank you for the 10 bucks. What's up, Small Fries?
Starting point is 00:50:30 If I have to watch Kevin Petulow call another game, I'm going to spend my weekend playing in traffic don't do that stay with us samuel blue nova thank you for the super chat sup snack packs i've been watching you too since two thousand twenty three who would each of you say is your biggest draft miss since you started the channel since i started the channel oh go jaggs got to give you your go jaggs do ball hmm biggest draft miss since we started this channel because that's not that long i don't know i'll have to think on that we at we were podcasting when Bryce, when Bryce Young was in the draft. And he's gotten a lot better.
Starting point is 00:51:09 But for a while there, it was like, this dude, even going to be in the NFL in three years. I'd have to really think on that. I think to give this question the respect it deserves, Trevor and I, at this summer, I think are really going to do a hits and misses look back because you never do that until there's been three years. So now we've had the appropriate time.
Starting point is 00:51:29 All right, guys, Chad, I'm going to try to rip through a couple of these because I have to eventually go here as well, but I'll get through as many as I can. Chad Brennan, both of you gentlemen, are formally invited to the slab if the Jags host the playoff game. Topical question, which running back would compliment Tooten
Starting point is 00:51:44 if the Jags move on from ETN? Probably some of the bigger guys you heard today, like Mike Washington, Ketron Allen. Yeah, those two make a lot of sense to me if they don't want to invest a big bit of capital into running back. JARPen.
Starting point is 00:52:02 Thank you for the Super Chat. Not a Vikings fan, but I love the idea of the Vikings bolstering their secondary in the first two rounds, then taking a guy like Emmett Johnson in the third round. He could be near your new Aaron Jones. So that makes a lot of sense. Role-wise. Spark scouting, LJ's Martin real name is Long Jump Martin. I like that.
Starting point is 00:52:18 Obama, Ben Bullen, is the, thank you for the super chat. Is this the next Mike Evans? Might have missed who we were talking about. BT, T, H Pod, Connor Rogers. We got some thick boys in this class. We do. Big running back class. Peter, thank you for the Super Chat.
Starting point is 00:52:32 chat, 491 days since the last safety rankings. We will update that, I promise you. BTTH pod again. Mike Washington Jr. is the Jonah Coleman of L.J. Martins. Jay Berg, 74. Thank you for the Super Chat. Trinidad Chambliss this, Trinidad, Chamblis, that. Real freaks, no, Luke Goatmeyer,
Starting point is 00:52:49 so we should be focused on. Trinidad absolutely rules Drake May. Plenty of time. We're going to be doing quarterback soon this month. So success is a mindset. Thank you for the super chat. You need to tell me Max graduated on time after being in a coma for two years.
Starting point is 00:53:02 years. All right, no spoilers here for Stranger Things. But that is a funny one. Andrew Crane, $2.2 super chat. Industry sources tell me L.J. Martin isn't declaring. All right, Andrew. We'll hold to you. There's still time for him to change his mind. Arlo, thank you for the super chat. Good day, fellas. How do we think this running back class is? I lean to it being like the 2024 running back class with no blue chip guys besides love on paper. I think that was our conclusion today. So hopefully you got your answer there. Chasey, thank you for the super chat.
Starting point is 00:53:33 Speaking of Kyle Munungai, I need to pay my industry sources for this guy helping me get a couple of ships in Dynasty. Yeah, Kyle Minangai, what a piece he is right now in Dynasty after going largely undrafted. Preston, thank you for the super chat. Rank these running backs as prospects. I can't talk about Hardy yet
Starting point is 00:53:49 because I haven't watched tape of Hardy this summer. Let's do this, though. I put Bejan 1, Love 2, I guess Janty 3, although I know it seems crazy to say now, because Gibbs is amazing. Gibbs definitely over Naji and ETN. I'm excited to sack up Hardy, though,
Starting point is 00:54:14 to kind of see where he lands in this group because he looks amazing on broadcast tape. Dirty Bird Nate, boys, what do you all think about drafting the rights to underclassmen? Think that would be a really fun twist of the draft. J.J.4 would be top five this year. So the problem with this is, and it's fun, idea in theory, right, is that the NFL loves that the draft has become like a theater event.
Starting point is 00:54:42 It's all about the football deep down, right? But it's really got everything you could, it's perfect television. It's got drama, mystery, rumors, excitement. It's the one time of the year for the league. that every fan, even the tortured Jets, Browns, Giants fan right now is so emotionally invested in it through the course of the entire thing. So you never want to water down your own product, and that's why they would never do that.
Starting point is 00:55:18 Because if somebody drafted the rights to Arch or Jeremiah Smith, yeah, it's not the best use of it because you're killing the theater and the excitement of a future draft. But also that fan base is like, yeah, I'm excited we got that guy a year from now, but I don't get to watch him in camp this summer. So it's a cool idea in theory and better for like a dynasty kind of league thing.
Starting point is 00:55:41 But I'm telling you why the NFL would never, ever allow this. So, and you know, and you see in there the more obvious, Hive Raven said this would also have a huge negative for college football. Yeah, guys would be like, yeah, I'm not, you know, risking my body. I'm already on an NFL team. All right, Brenda, thank you for the super chat. Jonah Coleman is a little Garrett Blunt of J.H.I.
Starting point is 00:56:06 Nice. Put that in your pipe and smoke it, Munchkins. J.J.J.I. Good callback. Preston, not expecting anything positive, but any thoughts on Adam Randall from Clemson? I need to watch him, but a good shout. I remember we talked about him over summer, though, I think. Big Dog, 67, Mark Fletcher, respect or no, because he's returning. Mark Fletcher was in my top eight.
Starting point is 00:56:26 I had to take him out when he said he's going back to school. there's still a chance he doesn't so but he'll he would be rb six for me if he's in this draft all right a couple more here canadian uh that games thank you connor uncrustville rogers and trevor pop tarts sigma well done e man thank you for the super chat love this channel i understand desmond reed is injury prone but he was the most explosive player i've seen at pitt since jordan addison thoughts him as a prospect we talked about him to start off the show just undersized but really really fun player like a unique weapon he's just got the size outlier A tall NFL guy.
Starting point is 00:57:00 Hey guys, as a Bucks fan, who would be a good mid-round replacement for Rashad White? Honestly, bring back Sean Tucker would be my first thought. But Emmett Johnson fits them in the middle rounds. Trevor really liked McGowan more than me, but I could see that as a kind of fit. But I would bring back Sean Tucker.
Starting point is 00:57:20 Remy Legault, thank you. If my Raiders draft the running back early midday three, which one compliments Gentie the best as a possible change of paceback. maybe Desmond Reed or Claiborne from Wake, who we talked. Trevor had him in his rankings today. Danger zone. Well done, Connor. Thank you.
Starting point is 00:57:34 Final answer. AJ, AG, get a year two. I think Glenn gets a second year, but I think it's fair if you think he shouldn't. Which is a harsh reality for a one-year coach, but you're just hoping right now. You have nothing tangible to bet on going into the next year. All right, two more here, guys. Thank you so much for all the super chats today. You guys are the best and happy New Year to everybody and your families.
Starting point is 00:57:55 dusk wolf happy new year young whippersnappers how do you feel about tremont digs going to the packers also connor looks like carisi from law and order i need to google this character carisi law and order i'll take it i don't know i've never gotten that one i don't know i don't know how i feel about that one uh for the packers why not he none of his money's guaranteed next year so you claim him so you get him rather than having to convince him to sign with you you own like a week of pay and you could cut him for free next year your secondary has not been great he's tight with micah so see what happens it's a it's a lot of ticket and a position of need i i have no problem what moves like that johnny rockets five dollar super chat not related
Starting point is 00:58:42 to the pod but how bad did green bay screw up the golden pick with burden abuka and the jadens in houston outperforming him in or outperforming him uh bear down well mecca went before him I believe. But, yeah, I mean, for me, like, it's not great. It hasn't been a good year for Golden. I did have Higgins ranked over him. I thought Higgins was a better prospect.
Starting point is 00:59:07 I had Hagen's Golden Burden after the top three guys. So Burden came with risk, and he's in the perfect place with a great role for him. But it's tough that, you know, I had Matthew Golden graded as a second round receiver and how many years have been waiting for the Packers to take one in the first round and this is when they do it. So I get the frustration from the fan base in that regard.
Starting point is 00:59:30 I just thought Higgins was a better player. But hopefully it's a better year too. We'll see. Giraff donkey, can you guys start an annual NFL SC awards show than have certain awards as longstanding jokes throughout the season? Meat Fabric winner, most underestimated player of the year, biggest climber. I like what you're thinking.
Starting point is 00:59:47 Maybe we could make that happen. I think this is good. I think this might be something that we'll talk with guys about in the discord and we could probably have these set up before next season, you know, and then throughout the season be able to shout these guys out. Let's see. Axel $5 super chat. Start bench cut, a fullback with no neck roll.
Starting point is 01:00:07 Oh, boy. A DB with no pregame swag or a linebacker that isn't a psycho. I'm going to start the DB with no pregame swag. What? What are you trying to give up 300 yards? No, some are, some are silent assassins men. Revis was like that. All right.
Starting point is 01:00:27 Revis, I've said this story on the pod before once, but I've only interviewed Revis once. And it was over the phone. It wasn't in person. But I asked him about, I think I asked him about when Chad, like when Ocho Cinco would just badger him, especially they played against each other in the playoffs. And Revis just shut him out beyond belief. And he would say, he's like, I consumed so much energy. into shutting players out that I would never waste it on anything extra.
Starting point is 01:00:57 And now that's borderline like crazy because a lot of DBs feed off of it, but he didn't need to at all. So I'm starting the DB with no pregame sweat because some are so mentally locked in that they show you nothing. I will bench the fullback with no neck roll. I'm cutting a linebacker that isn't a psycho. You have to be insane, insane to play linebacker. Yeah, I'm with you there.
Starting point is 01:01:19 Jay Berg's $5 super chap. Mutataka, Drake May, Murakami, who is a, I literally had to Google this while you were talking there. This is a baseball player. Yes, Japanese slugger now on the White Sox. Ah, okay. Yes, yes, very nice. D. Sauter, I saw Drake May last night in the flesh. His life all downhill from here.
Starting point is 01:01:37 Please nuke my Ravens. Happy holidays, fellow addicts, red chimichuri forever. Let's go, baby. De Sauter, got to see the game in person. That's very cool. Yeah, I don't think he had a good time. Ah, come on. He can see football in person.
Starting point is 01:01:48 You got to love that. Uh, franchise QB, $2 super chat. I'm Matt at Connor because the Jets lost. Oh, more to AZ. Okay, so sorry, partner. Jump in that they, dude, you realize by the way, the Titans now aren't even picking in the top five. Yeah, there's like a million teams of three wins. You're picking six.
Starting point is 01:02:07 Yep. Great win for Tennessee. Was it? Was it? Yeah, if you're in Jetsland, it was. Vinny, $10 super chat, no message. Just $10 super chat. We appreciate you.
Starting point is 01:02:18 Big dog. thank you for the $2 super chat top three edges in class also curious about the you versus Ohio State we are going to do edge rankings in the next couple weeks so yes if you've been listening to the show the order we draft them obviously gives away some stuff but we are going to have full edge rankings before the senior bowl yes um short round $10 super chat so up blokes fade of the universe on the line you have to back one of these QBs to have the better NFL career archmaning lenore sellers Jaden Maiava. P.S. Drake, Drake, Drake, May. Arch, man.
Starting point is 01:02:53 I don't think it's close. No, it's not close. But if you want the answer after that. If you would have asked us this in September, I think that would have been an interesting conversation. And I'll take Myava over sellers. Vinnie M. Hey, Young Wipper Snappers. Where do you think that Love would have ranked among the running backs in the 2025 draft class? Also, where would Tyson and Tate have ranked among the
Starting point is 01:03:16 2024 receivers? I'll do the first one. The second one of really long, like when we talk about Tyson and Tate will have that combo, how they'd rank in that great class, Jeremiah Love would have been right up there with Ashen Gentie. As soon as the next draft cycle started, everybody knew Jeremiah Love was a top 10 kind of player. I think I would have him above Genty. High or ranked, right? Yeah.
Starting point is 01:03:40 Because he's a bigger, he's a bigger breakaway threat. Yeah. That's a big difference. Yeah. Yeah. I think so. I think that that's where I would be with that. And then what was it?
Starting point is 01:03:49 Where would you have Tyson and Tate ranked him into 2024 receivers? Hold on. Let me pull up to 2024 receivers. I know you said we could do it a different time. I would have Ted above him for sure. No, this is 2024. Oh, 24. That's why I wasn't going to do it.
Starting point is 01:04:04 It's like a long, this is like Brian Thomas Jr. Marvin Harrison. My neighbor was Roebate Doonese. Yeah, last year, a little different. Yeah. Hold on. Let me see really quick. I would have had more.
Starting point is 01:04:17 I got to be true. like I would have had Marvin Malik above him for as much as Marvin Harrison's kind of struggled. Yep, me too. I think I would have Tyson and Rome and Dunezay in the same spot, and then I'd probably have like Tate next. Okay. I'd have Tyson and Tate over Rome.
Starting point is 01:04:34 Okay. I like Rome when it came down to it. I think I would have had them there. Okay. Charter of $5 super chat. Life isn't fair. Raiders are about to ruin their draft slot again against Darden, is 33 yards passing against the Chiefs QB4. Caleb Downs at seven overall it is.
Starting point is 01:04:51 Man, that is a sad tweet. I feel you, though, man. Nick Enzio, thank you for the $5 super chat. The Jets should sign Bake May, so they at least get cookies when they lose. Make May, it's true. Tony Lee, thank you for the $50 super chat. Tony, such a nice guy. Congratulations to the hardest working guys out there for hitting 50K.
Starting point is 01:05:10 Happy holidays from my family to both of yours. Happy holidays to your family, Tony. Thank you. We appreciate it, Tony. Thank you. Thank you. Um, all right. Let's see.
Starting point is 01:05:21 Sully, $5 super chat. Good Lord, four mock traps. Are you guys about to get four closed on? Yes, we didn't know how to tell you. In all seriousness, love the concept. Very excited. Hashtag Drake, may appreciate it, Sully. Steele, $5 super chat.
Starting point is 01:05:33 Mike Tomlin heard Yin's talking about, uh, pimping out his team and took that personally. Never say never. Uh, but never. Yeah, I mean, never with Mike Tomlin in the Steelers the way that it is. Dirty Birds, uh, $2 super chat. What up? Traveler.
Starting point is 01:05:47 Shuck him. That's not bad. I'll take it. Mediocrity incarnate, hello there, little tykes. Are you as excited as I am for the Raiders to knock themselves out of the number one pick when compete Carol beats the zombie.
Starting point is 01:06:01 Heaps in the K-Teen. The zombie chiefs. Dude, the chiefs were so bad against the Titans. They are shutting it down. And good for them. Buck Rising, who does a great job covering the Tennessee Titans. I saw his tweet during the game. He said, you know, it's like the chiefs, you know, they get eliminated from the playoffs
Starting point is 01:06:22 and they don't know how to act. The Titans, born for it, bread for it. They just, they know how to play. They're ready. Two dollar super chat. Goatmeyer sacrifice for Caleb Williams to ascend. Yeah, and that's why he's goat mire. That's truly why he's goat mire.
Starting point is 01:06:41 Dylan, $5 super chat. Congrats on 50K. Love you guys. Oregon guys need more love. We'll talk plenty more about those working guys, even outside of Dante Moore, but we appreciate it, Dylan. We really do. Thank you for being part of the 50K that we've got here on YouTube.
Starting point is 01:06:56 Brattles Clark, congrats on the 50K. Surprise, it's not more. People need to catch up. Also, do you think Taylor and Tobin both return to the Bengals next year? They've never fired a coach with term left on his deal. So history tells us they will be back, but logic tells us they shouldn't be. Let's see which one applies to the Bengals. Chad, the Steeler fan.
Starting point is 01:07:15 Thank you for the $50. Super Chat, Chad. Wow. Very nice. 50. Finally won my parlay. Can finally be on the show and Pimp NFLSC.
Starting point is 01:07:22 Chad, you are the man. Chad, if you're watching live, let us know, but what was the parlay? We got to hear it. Yeah, I would love to read the parlay of the cash. Mango Chiefs, thoughts on the Chiefs leaving Arrowhead. I have no idea.
Starting point is 01:07:35 I don't know. I felt like the community expected this to happen from what I could read. So I don't know the political logistics. I didn't see immediate outrage. So I wondered if like you just said, I wondered if this was a little. Yeah, I felt like this was bound to happen.
Starting point is 01:07:52 Gigantor, $5 Super Chat. My Lions need to lose out. Fire Johnny Moe and Shep. Get a fourth play schedule, top 15 pick and revamp the trenches. Super 61 champs, I'm delusional. No, I think that that's an underrated part of if you're not going to win the division and you getting a fourth play schedule is kind of big to do. So I think that that's actually a good.
Starting point is 01:08:16 shout out there but lions have also just dealt with a crap ton of injuries this year and they're figuring it out with the new coordinators i think they'll i think they'll bounce back next year the problem they're in the toughest division in football um samuel 10 dollar super chat any thoughts on the philly offense chumps is it coaching or a player issue their offensive i think it's a player thing a player the offensive line is not what it used to be and i think that they're still trying to run the offense as if they have the best offensive of line in football and they just don't now, especially with Lane Johnson hurt. And they're kind of like Jalen Hertz, I think is a, I think that the narrative with
Starting point is 01:08:53 Jalen Hertz is all over the place. If there are some people out there who think he's like a top five quarterback in the NFL and there's other people who think he's like the worst starting quarterback in the NFL. The truth is in between. Jalen Kurtz could go out and win a game for you. He could be a conservative quarterback for you. He'd be a good game manager and a point guard for you. If you put too much on his plate, I think you will be down to be disappointed.
Starting point is 01:09:11 But when you're on a team where things are rolling well and you're able to run the I think he'd be a great complimentary piece to an offense. He clearly was good enough to win a Super Bowl last year. So I just think the thoughts with Philadelphia are just, they're way too polarizing. He's either the greatest quarterback in the league or he's the worst quarterback in the league. And I just think that that's a bad way to go about the conversation with Philly. And we saw when they were on the ball in an explosive way, which they did this past weekend against Washington, it looks good. And they're not able to do that because the offensive line's not what it has been in the past.
Starting point is 01:09:43 storm hiubasa thank you for the ten dollar super chat the quarterback class of whom uh i could do one more here and then uh i'll have to unfortunately bounce uh m p p p y 938 what's up little fellows made a live show for once who should the bears be targeting end of the first at edge well buddy you got to see that today seems like slim picking is around where they project to pick yeah yeah all right everybody uh this is the last uh live show that we have this week we're going to have another we're going to have an episode for you on wednesday but it's not going to be a live show so uh everybody in the chat wish conner merry christmas because the next time you see him it will be yes merry christmas happy holidays to all you addicts out there you guys are the best
Starting point is 01:10:27 i appreciate you so much thank you everybody for the super chats thank you everybody for the interaction we're not going anywhere anytime soon like trevor said there'll be a special episode as the second show of the week and then we will be live next week of course during new year's week you guys are going to love the second episode whatever yeah i'm excited for it Trevor thank you bro see you dude uh awesome two dollar super chat what do you guys think of grant nudinski for er to arizona man he is gaining a lot of steam as a guy who um he's going to get his shot at some point to be an offensive coordinator i actually really like that for arizona because it feels like they're going to move on from uh from drew petzing
Starting point is 01:11:01 mr coleslaw two dollars uh can we name the wheel wheelfred collins uh i think you just did Alice Duvall, $5 super chat. Hey, Little Mays. A little maze, that's actually, I think it's a compliment. What team do you think AFC or NFC had the most notable season for good or bad reasons? Chicago. Denver? No, it might be Denver.
Starting point is 01:11:27 With how good their season is, taking over that division against the Chiefs, sort of dethroning them that way. I think it might be the Denver Broncos. Now that I'm just thinking of that. Parkour, $5. Happy Monday. Wait, hold on. Squirt and Connor. That's targeting.
Starting point is 01:11:45 It's 15 yards and an ejection. If the Ravens move on from Orr, who do you think is a good D.C. replacement for them? Blank Drake May. Hashtag flock. Who would be a good DC? I know people talk about the Texans D.L.I.N. Coach. I can't remember his name.
Starting point is 01:12:03 Can we talk about him as a potential defense coordinator. man I would have said Rahim Morris if Rahim was going to get fired in Atlanta maybe he still will but like I think that's a potential option Jeff Obrick's part of that staff as well it's like maybe him but I don't know Rahim Morris is the first one that comes to my mind
Starting point is 01:12:20 honestly Wisco $5 super chat you will pimp the pack we will get there at some point you're right we will we will get there but the odds are very slim for the packers right now which I thought was a hilarious ad from our producer um uh ashtry's 10 dollar super chat i believe uncrustables do have crust as they're uncrust able so you're able to uncrust them the crust has merely been augmented for maximum
Starting point is 01:12:49 uncrusting efficiency thoughts i don't think we need more thoughts i think that was aware very well thought out uh thesis that you put out there tough to tough to argue with it but i can't argue with it i'm not the uncrustable master so we'll have to get connor's take on it afterwards brice 50 $50 super chat. Holy cow, Bryce. Thank you so much. We appreciate it. What's up, little tykes?
Starting point is 01:13:09 Congrats on 50K subs. We appreciate all that you do for the addicts. Please get my charges in Interior, offensive line help. Oliave Vega, Oane, in round one, or we riot. I think Bigga Oane would be a phenomenal pick for the Los Angeles charges.
Starting point is 01:13:25 Whenever we get to them in the wheel mock drafts, that is absolutely going to be on the board. Price, thank you for the $50. But more importantly, thank you for being part of the 50K. year on the NFL stock exchange show. $8 and $5 super chat. Please avoid drafting any players with extensive injury history for Miami, pretty please.
Starting point is 01:13:42 I don't think we did. I think he mainly means Tremont McCoy, which we didn't draft Tremont McCoy. So there you go. West, $10 super chat. Hey guys, recently had to sit through two MRIs. Man, listening to your mock drafts, help me get through it. Thanks for being the best podcast to listen to while sitting perfectly still for three hours. Man, that is tough.
Starting point is 01:14:00 I hate to hear that you had to go through two MRIs. But, Wes, we are happy that we could help time fly by a little bit faster for you while you were going through that. So you appreciate letting us be the ones to hopefully brighten your day up a little bit when you're going through that. ProData, $5 SuperTrack. Contrast on 50K chumps. We appreciate it. Can we have a special team's position ranking? Shout to Ahmad.
Starting point is 01:14:21 Amad the Human Test boosting uncrustable Moten Jr. Moten Jr. We can probably get to a sick of special teams episode at some point through the draft process. But we're a little ways away from that. to get to the other positional ranking first and $5 super chat um what's up boys long time audio only addicts since the 33rd team expansion draft wow that's way back in the day we appreciate you rocking with us for so long and i think that was year one idea shirt idea only addicts can host the pod love it absolutely love it once we get into shirts i think uh i think we'll have a lot
Starting point is 01:14:55 of ideas that you guys will be able to give us a Mitch colesaw said two dollars said the dolphins have three thirds Connor was looking into that so maybe we do have to put those in the mock draft simulator maybe we do have to get to that uh this is tie who this is the super chat that i was talking about earlier um t t tie said five dollar super chap thank you we appreciate you and i'm saying that before i read it speaking of costco i saw trevor at costco at a costco bathroom he was at a urinal pants pulled down to his ankles butter's style what's up with that big fan that wasn't me that was tyler shuck common mistake common mistake but that was Tyler Shuck.
Starting point is 01:15:33 I know that for a fact. Mr. Coles saw another $2 super chat. How about them Bears? Ice in the Baines. What a throw, baby. Throw the year by Caleb Williams. Whiskill $5, get them a punter and a kicker. Love a Packers fan.
Starting point is 01:15:43 All this is for the Bears draft. Yolong, $2 Super Chat. Last time, Pitt lost more than one. Call Duty 1 came out. Is that true? God, yeah, that would have been what, oh, Five?
Starting point is 01:16:04 Oh, man. It might be even before that. That's crazy. Nuts. It's nuts. A. R. Baugh. What's up, Arbs? $5 super chat.
Starting point is 01:16:13 You fellows are more afraid of mocking for the Packers than the Jets are of drafting a franchise quarterback and the bucks of firing Todd Bulls. Merry Christmas. Might be very true. Might actually be very true. Why a $5 super chat? Super chat. Interested in what you guys, Trevor, Tyler, Tyler, Shuck, Sykima, and Connor,
Starting point is 01:16:32 J. Uncrustables, Rogers. Think of the five LSU wide receivers. Drake, 10, May, May. the five LSU wide receivers. I'm not the biggest fan of them. I think that Aaron Anderson is my favorite. I think he's got the most versatility. One, I think they're all a little bit smaller. I think Aaron Anderson's got the most versatility to him, although I do think that he is best used in the slot.
Starting point is 01:16:52 I think Xavier and Thomas is a really underrated player. I think he can play on the outside. He play a little Z receiver. He can play in the slot. I think he blocks his butt off. I think he's got some good explosives to him. He's even built a little bit bigger than these other guys. Bery and Brown, I was disappointed with.
Starting point is 01:17:05 I think he's got more physical gifts than some of the other guys. but just I think that some of the drops were an issue for them, the route running, the lack of separation. I wasn't as big of a fan of that one. And then Chris Hilton Jr., really great track background, really great track athlete. I just don't think that it shows up on the field very often. He's basically only a skinny post and vertical route type of a wide receiver.
Starting point is 01:17:27 And I just, he wasn't really able to stand out in college with that role. It's really, really hard to do that at the NFL level. So those were Aaron Anderson, Savian Thomas, Berrien Brown. Chris Hilton, Jr. Those are the four. Is Nick Anderson the other one? Nick Anderson's the other one you're probably talking about. I like him the most.
Starting point is 01:17:45 By far, I like him the most. I think Nick Anderson could be a legit, I don't know if he's going to go in the top 100, but maybe an early day three pick kind of a guy. I think that, shoot, I love his brother too, Rodney Anderson before he got hurt. But I like Nick Anderson a good amount. I think he can be a vertical receiver for you.
Starting point is 01:18:01 He's got the length. He's got some added flexibility and change his direction stuff for a player of his size. I do like him. uh zoots five dollar super chat hello twerps i uh pray to god if you get the bengals uh and you don't take keldrick and so don't take keldrick falk thanks also carlos allen junior fifth defense tackle isn't it on the sim okay so i got to get carlos allen junior in from houston i'll add him to the list i haven't watched him caldric falk for the bengals yeah i would not take him for the bengals he would be very redundant
Starting point is 01:18:37 them so i see what you're trying to say there no a five dollar super chat um trev traps for looking swall let's be all that anabolic chimy chummy it absolutely is you know the you know the vibes there mr coleslaw five dollar super chat t j parker god montes would be crying on his knees in a chili in a good way i hope it's the only way you can cry in a chili it's just from joy hd two dollar super chat uh i love how everyone here is sharing one brain cell that we're all family together. That's how I'm going to take that. Jeff, $5 super chat, I swear, Treb,
Starting point is 01:19:12 if our bucks pass on Bain or how because of arm length, we will need to fire those who scout edges. I think there is a decent conversation to be had when it comes to the lack of arm length with pass rushers because there is a reason why we have it. It is not for nothing, and we will dig in this a lot more, and we will get into the practical reasons and everything once we get into edge rushing.
Starting point is 01:19:30 But there is a reason why these thresholds exist. It is much tougher to get off blocks. It is much tougher to get around offensive tackles, and it's much tougher to be the first one to dictate contact the way that you need to when you're trying to get into their chest and sort of play a power game. When you don't have that arm length, it is a major issue to deconstruct those blocks
Starting point is 01:19:49 and get off of those blocks. But sometimes when you have guys who really know how to stay clean, you know, keep their hands moving, are really good encounters. They can make up for it. So we'll have a deeper conversation about that, but it's worth bringing up. JD, $5.
Starting point is 01:20:04 Punching fans, not a good idea. of audience participation. Yeah, I would agree as a baseline, yes. But like I said, there are so many things about that situation and there are a lot of really serious allegations that are being thrown out there. So I am not going to put my, I'm not going to put my two cents in whatsoever.
Starting point is 01:20:23 I'm going to wait to see what happens with this. But obviously, we talked about how DK Metcalf is suspended for two games, the rest of the two games here in the regular season. K and Thoder back in the chat. appreciate it, Ken. Five dollar super chat. Happy, my team sucks and so does the 2026 NFL draft class. And so does the 2026 NFL draft class day to all of those who celebrate.
Starting point is 01:20:47 Oh, okay, I see what he's saying. We're combining all of those things. Happy, my team sucks. And so does the 2026 NFL draft class day to all who celebrate. Downs, Fano, sorry, sorry, sorry. Bad habit. Or Bailey at number five. um who is who is five now uh oh it's Arizona um I would take Bailey if I was done
Starting point is 01:21:19 no no no I would take I would take Fano I would take Fano if I was done at five um the Siegel $20 super chat big pounder here incredible phrase Congrats to Carolina Panthers fans Hoping that the wheel lands on the Panthers to see how this draft would turn out Have some hope for the first time in 10 years Keep up the good work, Jens, stay jacked. Yeah, you stay jacked as well.
Starting point is 01:21:43 Appreciate it. We'll definitely get to Carolina. Obviously, Carolina, still having a really good year Could very well be hosting a playoff game very soon. Chad, $5, Super Chat. What do the Jags do next year with BTJ and Hunter? Parker, Washington, Jacoby Myers, have been the answer. Build the Cohen statue now.
Starting point is 01:22:00 Obviously, we talked about that a little bit there. Potentially they're moving on from Brian Thomas Jr. But I don't think they're going to do it. I think they're just going to stay as talented as possible and try to run it back to that next year and maybe even have a better year. Trinidady, $5. Greeting Butch, Muncher's cheese. Who's one player that you're willing to start a fan club for?
Starting point is 01:22:16 And it can't be big Christmas, big citrus, or easy, peasy. I mean, AJ Pauls. He's my dude. Love A.J. Halsey. I talked about Seth McGowan, how much I loved him at the running back spot. Michael Lemon's my dude I still think Jenny Stunker can still be a really good pro in the league
Starting point is 01:22:33 that's kind of my guys that I've had fan clubs for here Trinidady $5 Super Chat Secret Santa One under the radar prospect for each other's team Oh man Happy Holidays and Merry Christian my friends Who's an underrated prospect
Starting point is 01:22:51 For Connor's team He's not going to see this I'm going to go to the PFF big board and I'm going to scroll down here Okay What's a wide receiver That I could give them That he might love
Starting point is 01:23:12 No he's already a Tim Keenan guy I can't give him I can't give him Tim Keenan Oh maybe Kenyatta Jackson The Edge Rusher from Ohio State Maybe that's one I kind of like that one. We just talked about Aaron Anderson, too.
Starting point is 01:23:35 Maybe he's a good poll for them. Oh, or Xavier Thomas. I just talked about Xavier and Thomas, how much I like that guy. I don't know. One of those players. Or Max Llewellyn, because Conner's a Max Llewellyn guy.
Starting point is 01:23:51 Jacob, $2 super chat, says Duval versus all of y'all in all caps. Jags fans flying high, and it's obvious to see why. Scarcity is $2.00 Super Chat. BTJ is a victim of Shane Waldron. He's a lot of victims of Shane Waldron, unfortunately. $8 and $2 Super Chat. Where do you guys get all 22 for scouting?
Starting point is 01:24:16 We get it through PFF. So unfortunately, that is not part of a PFF plus subscription, but we get it through PFF. So it's tough to get all 22 for college. I've been out of the college football, all 22 game for a long, time because I've been working at PFS since 2021. So you can find it out there, but we get it from PFF. Peter with the $250 Super Chat, just the absolute go, truly funding the show, our greatest sponsor, Peter Football Focus, all the cliches and all the things that are
Starting point is 01:24:41 very true about how much we appreciate Peter for here. Again, supporting the show, listening to the show. We appreciate you guys so much, not just for the Super Chats, but for being subscribed and for being here, man. Let's see. what's next um oh katherine valhalla five dollar super chat if i could watch this while eating what if oh and michael and michael may's make make miss treats life would be perfect i think it would be perfect for everybody it's very true um course a five dollar super chat with levis playing decent before callahan and ward with levis playing decent before callahan and ward playing better after Callahan.
Starting point is 01:25:25 There we go. Is Levis worth a second look or is he mayoed toast? Instead of butter toast. I see what you did there. Thanks, Jens. Levis in the conversation, I think, for potential quarterbacks for next year.
Starting point is 01:25:39 Lake Willis and again that conversation as well. Obviously, we've got Kyle Murray, Tuotungo Vailoa. I think there's a handful of quarterbacks that could be changing teams. And I think that Levis isn't talked about enough to the point of the super chat here. Short round, $5 super chat, time to put on your hater hat.
Starting point is 01:25:56 What's a prospect you were very down on versus consensus who you were right about? I think this is more of an offensive, well, I was going to say it's more of an off season. Tyree Wilson. I never, I, again, I don't mean to be overly mean about it. I never understood Tyree Wilson. I never understood the top 10 hype. This is a player that I would have taken in the third round. And I think that I even had him like, like, low,
Starting point is 01:26:23 30s in my final rankings and that was honestly because I was like I I must be seeing something that's wrong here but I had Tyree Wilson ranked as like a third late second early third round player for a lot of the prospect process and then so many people were like no no no this guy's going to be a stud he's an athletic freak like all this kind of stuff and I was like okay I guess and it was just me not sticking to my guns and Tyree Wilson we talk about scouting lessons all the time. Sometimes the group thing can really get to you. And it does so much so less now to me and Connor more than it ever has. We're so much more comfortable and confident about how long we've been doing this and how we see the game and everything like that. But Wilson was one
Starting point is 01:27:05 of those guys where I just did not see it. And so many other people did. And he was so high on so many other boards that I doubted myself about it. And that's one that I go back to and I'm like, you know what? I kind of know what I'm looking at sometimes with guys who I feel like can and can't play at a baseline level. So that's one example there of not just an answer to the question, but also a scouting lesson and something that we've taken to heart and why we're a lot more confident in our convictions of how we see prospects and how we see the game now.
Starting point is 01:27:34 Bryce $5 super chat, wanted to give Connor a chance to apologize for his egregious Kalil-Max Lander. Just kidding. All love from the Bull fan. Was you talking about pass rush for the Chargers? I must have missed that. Patrick, $10 Super Chat. Merry Christmas and congrats some 50K.
Starting point is 01:27:51 Appreciate it, Patrick. Most important game of the week. Las Vegas versus the New York Giants. It absolutely is. Forget the playoffs. It's draft season, baby. Raiders and the Giants facing off this week. Must see TV.
Starting point is 01:28:04 Must see TV. Let's see. Okay. Jamie, $10 super chat. What's up, Bucco? Show my wife that I made the coal open. The gifts sauce. back question. And she was wildly unimpressed. My two-year-old daughter, however, gets hyped when
Starting point is 01:28:23 Trev and Connor come on. How do I go into 2026? You go into 2026 as someone who helped give us one of the best cold opens of the entire year. That's how you go in. Shout it to your family. We love them, even though your wife was wildly unimpressed about the cold open. She'll get it. She'll get it. I have faith. Chad, oh, answer the parlay question. $10 super chat. The Parley was Somaget TD, H&TD, and receptions, more on points, chase, receptions, brown rushing yards, and wattle receiving yards. Okay, so it was Somaget, TD, H&T, and receptions. Okay, I see.
Starting point is 01:29:09 So it was TD and receptions. Chase Receptions Brown rushing yards Waddle receiving yards Damn that's an impressive same game parlay You're not bouncing around at all for that one
Starting point is 01:29:28 Wow That's impressive

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