NFL Stock Exchange: An NFL Draft Podcast - Ranking EVERY 1st Round Pick From the Last 3 Years!

Episode Date: May 18, 2026

Trevor Sikkema and Connor Rogers rank 1st Round NFL Draft Picks from the last 3 years (2023-2025)! They're ranking these players based mainly on how well they performed in the league with extra bonus points for value based on where they were drafted and what was happening with the team at the time they were drafted. Subscribe to our YouTube channel and help us get to 75K! It helps us out a bunch. WE HAVE A DISCORD!!!!! JOIN HERE! https://discord.com/invite/PxSFVtWEwW https://discord.gg/PxSFVtWEwW?feature=description if the link doesn't work for you, just search 'NFLStockExchange' on discord and it'll pop up Follow us on X: https://x.com/NFLSEshow https://x.com/TampaBayTre https://x.com/ConnorJRogers We appreciate each and every one of you ADDICTS :) For business or other inquiries, reach us at [e-mail] Hosted by Simplecast, an AdsWizz company. See pcm.adswizz.com for information about our collection and use of personal data for advertising.

We should buy a billboard. Come on. We'll go to the most desolate place we could find where it's like 35 bucks a month for the billboard. We'll put all of our gimmicks on it. Hellness L Thursday. You name it, it'll be on there. Each side has the red circle with a line through it. One is Big Tux, one is Safeway.

So you don't even want to promo the show. You just want to hypothetically take down our enemies. It is not enough that I succeed. Others must fail to. The best year but quote of all time. Welcome to the opening bell of the NFL Stock Exchange show. Trevor Sicken, McCona Rogers, back with you guys on a Monday edition of the program for a very special and unique topic. Connor, something we have never done before here on this show.

We are ranking all 95, because there was only 31 picks in 2024, all 95 first round picks over the last three years. And we are going to put them in numerical order. There are so many different ways to do this. obviously how good the players have been, where they were picked, who they were picked over or behind, what the team was doing at the time. Was it a smart move? And the best part is, Connor, I have no idea how you prioritize your list. You have no idea how I prioritized mine. So that is going to be the beauty here on this show. But how you doing, my friend? Look at that slick back, man. That is sharp. We got it. We got it going on here.

We got it going on here. You really do. It is between the camera, the slick back hair. the beard. You got it all right now. I added the I added the vanilla cabie a jersey. I dude, I saw that not to not to talk too highly of ourselves, but I saw it when we were on a meeting. I saw it before the show. We were on a meeting guys. Big meeting guys. And I'm not going to lie, I was staring at that for a while losing track of the meeting. So I was like, damn the Lecabia jersey is up. It's so sick.

With the All-Stat. Had to do it to him. Had to do it to it. Nobody represents Tampa better. But this is going to be fun, man. This is going to be a lot of. And, And when I say that, what I really mean is I couldn't be more nervous for this episode. I'm a little nervous. Because it is so subjective. And so I think this is going to be a ton of fun to get to go through with the chat, have people freak out. We're going to, like we do for our rankings, we're going to reveal them on the show

in increments of first five and then 10. So we'll be able to kind of like freak out about this stuff throughout the entire show, eventually getting to our favorite and best picks, in our opinion, of the last three drafts. Now, when we say the last three drafts, we don't mean 2026. 2026 just happened. Those guys have not played at all. You guys have heard all of our thoughts

pre-draft on what we believed we saw on these players. You've heard our draft grades. Shoot, you even heard our live draft grades when we were doing the bleach report live stream. This is the 2023 draft, the 2024 draft, and the 2025 draft. So some

players obviously have more of a sample size than others. And Connor, I think for me personally, sometimes that weighed more in their favor. Sometimes it didn't. Like there's a couple of players who are one year sample size players. So I'm like, oh, I'm in, baby. I'm all the way in.

And so I just, I'm very curious as to see what your sort of weighting scale was with some of these players. That was the tricky thing of this is, yes, there's going to be context and we're weighing in multiple parts. of this equation, but there is a lot of this where it's like, I'm going to fall back on what I thought of the player because the sample size is so small. Or I'm going to be brutally harsh on this player because we have multiple years of him doing nothing right now compared to where he was drafted. So we're going to have some wildly different rankings. And I think that it doesn't mean that

like the story is finished on either of them yet, which makes such an interesting conversation. And also, I don't know if you did this for a couple, I hurt some teams that cost a big price to go get that player if they didn't perform. I think that goes into it. It goes into it a lot. It was ranking the actual pick. There's like if that player costs multiple picks and that player didn't live up to expectations, I was brutally tough on that specific selection and somebody that just didn't live up to the

hype, but the team didn't give up a ton of capital to make that move. Yeah. There's a lot of different ways. a lot of names that we're going to get to here on this show. Before we kick this off, though, I think it is appropriate that we address this at the very top of the show. So in the NFL S-E Discord, which is a wonderful place, hopes and dreams, creativity like you've never seen, passion amongst football fans and draft fans alike. We love the NFLS E Discord. It's so much fun. We've got over 5,000 people that are in there, and it's a great time. But it has been brought to

our attention that you guys have created such a huge. big community now to where we have the distinct honor of now having scammers trying to get into our NFLSD discord and message you guys recently last week there was somebody who i'll give it to them they're good at what they do they were trying to impersonate the chef what do i am i not going to give it to them should i not give it to them i saw the way they message people and they absolutely sound like i am the police but okay all right that's fair that's fair betting journey going? Are you kidding me? If somebody came up to me, get their ass, baby, or texted me and said, hey, how's the betting journey going? I'd be like, you are absolutely an undercover cop. Do not talk

to me ever again. But if that wasn't the giveaway to you, we have to address this. Holy shit, how is the betting journey going? I have never once logged onto an app, put in a parlay, looked at my wife said today's gonna be a journey can't wait to see where it leads I mean come on God I am sweating I'm laughing hi I would love some of your finest marijuana please I swear to God I'm not a cop what give me one of your weeds like how do you do fellow kids it was peak that when I read it I'm like I got this is a serious issue and we need to address it. No, get after their ass. Step your game up. Step your game up. Honestly.

No, don't step your game up. But look, so what's been happening is whoever this is, unfortunately we think that they are in the NFLSY Discord. They probably have a burner because they're looking at Tyler, the chef's account because Tyler does, Tyler is very

active in there. So, you know, he'll go back and forth at a lot of the addicts because he's the goat producer, obviously, and he wants to connect with the community. But, um, I can't remember like what the exact hell is. Tyler, is it like the is it your like handle that's in there that you really have to make sure that you check? Because this person is taking Tyler's profile picture. They're even they're even like buying a discord account that has the same start date as Tyler's original account. Like this is somebody who obviously puts work into this. But we want to be very, very, very clear. We are never under any circumstance going to ask you for money or to log, into your accounts or anything like that to see how the betting journey is going for you. That's never going to happen. There are going to be times where if we do like a hat giveaway, right?

Like, and you win, okay, we'll ask you for your address because we've got to be able to send the hat to you. But just make sure that you're double checking that it's actually our accounts because this person was so on top of it, Tyler even changed his profile picture. And like within the hour that. Tyler did that. The scammer did the same thing. So just be careful, guys. Unfortunately, like, I wish that we didn't have to say this, but it's the reality of unfortunately, like, when a community gets so big, you just have people like this that are being really

shitty and being assholes and trying to scam people. And just, unfortunately, I hate that you have to do this, but be on your toes a little bit about it when it comes to messages from any of us. We're never going to ask you for any of that stuff. And again, we're certainly not going to ask you how the betting journey is going because we all know how it's going it's going poorly for all of us the journey i but in all seriousness it's obviously just absurd and pathetic and um we have a new number one enemy uh no longer big tux and safeway this is the new number one somebody said that you can you can report the account obviously if you see the account please we would love for you to report the account the problem is that i think that people are

just like really good at this or very they're their veteran savvy about this So there's a chance where like, you know, their IP address might get banned, but they might have something that's scramble in their IP. So it's like they're not really getting banned or so. So obviously, we would love for you to report it anytime that you see it, like report them to Discord for misinformation and scamming or whatever it is. Please do that every time that you see it. But it's not a guarantee that they're just going to go away, unfortunately.

So just be on your peas and cues about it. We know the addicts are smart. We love you guys. We appreciate you. And, yeah. So just we're never going to ask you for money. So please don't fall for it. We don't want to see any of that for you guys.

Are you ready to dig into this? I'm ready. So he said, Safeway's got shooters, huh? Oh, my God. By the way, do you see Peter? Hold on. Did you see Peter, who is, of course, an NFL and the Ring of Honor Hall of Famer? And part of the 500 Club, a board member, yes.

He tweeted at us a picture of sushi from a great. grocery store, which is good because we talked about that on the last episode. Well, it depends on the grocer. The NFLSE hat, but it was from Safeway. Very good. But it was from Safeway. There's never been a greater conflict of interests on the internet. I didn't even know what to think. No, I actually didn't even have a response.

Yeah, there it is. Ready to go. There is. There's a lot going on here. There's a lot going on in there. Look at all that pepper underneath it. Yeah. Yeah, what?

Look at these spices. I think I'll stop at the seasoning aisle I'll take my picture for NFL's sake change I like that oh man there's no bigger fear as a man being sent on a grocery trip solo when you have to go to the aisle with all the seasoning

and you're just digging through like there's 9000 different options and you know you're going to get the wrong one for your wife you just know it so good place to stop Peter man say given Safeway business you think you know people Ah, yes, Sean mentioning that's the OG hat.

It is the OG hat because you can tell because the rope is black with the hat instead of the green rope that we have. Somebody in the chat, I've seen this a couple of times, the latest one from David O. It keeps begging for Evan Neal to be last. He was in the 2022 draft. So I'm sorry to disappoint you before the show begins. Okay, so technically the Miami Dolphins didn't have their pick in the 2024 draft. And so it's only 95. If you want to expand it to 96 and put Evan Neal at 96,

you can do that. You can do that. Yeah. Okay. Let's dig into it. All right, Connor, you get the honors, as is the order of the animation that the chef has. There it is. Okay. All right. We're going to be very similar. So, Tyler, you could just reveal my five that I have there as well, because it is a lot of the same names. Oh, wow. So look, I just want to say this right off the bat. James Pierce Jr. is last on our rankings because James Pierce, Jr., right now he didn't even participate in voluntary workouts for the team because he is going through three serious felonies. And if there is a time to talk about his football abilities, today is not that day. So that is that about James Pierce, Jr.

He is last on this list. Both of us have Tyree Wilson. Or, yeah, Tyree Wilson at 94. You have Mazzie Smith at 92. I have him at 93. We both have Emmanuel Forbes here. You have him at 91. I have it at 92.

I just have Anthony Richardson at 91, and you had Felix on Dki Osama at 93. Yeah. So, you know, you mentioned our reasoning for Pearson. We're not going to go too deep on that today. Obviously, it was expensive to get him. And if this was just all about talent, it'd be a much different conversation.

And I do see somebody in the chat, Flavent Monster, saying that Pierce's 10 sacks might be better than Tyree Wilson's whole career. I actually thought about that. I genuinely thought about putting him at 94 because of that. But it's the, once again, it goes back to the price they paid

and the fact that this wasn't, there was, there wasn't a giant secret that there was red flags there with Pierce. So I was, I went through process as well. And Tyree Wilson's 94.

So that was a bad process as well. Terrible process. Yeah. Mazzie Smith was a guy that it feels like they drafted him. to be something he's not. They took him and they were hoping he could give their middle of their defense beef and run-stopping ability.

And he was kind of a run-stuffing body but wanted to play like an athlete and just turned out to not a serviceable player at all. They actually dumped him in the Jets trade, this trade deadline quietly. So he's now ultimately with the Jets but hasn't really been playing even much at all. They were looking for bodies last year.

So yeah. And Forbes was better after being on the commanders, but was a horrible pick. They took Forbes in front of Christian Gonzalez. That's the problem. That's why he's 91 for me. I could argue he should be 93 or 92. That's a factor here. So this is a great intro, which, by the way, somebody in the chat said,

hey, Anthony Richardson's got a six next to his name. Shouldn't that be a four? Yes, it should be a four. That's not on the chef. That's on me. I put that in wrong. But there are multiple factors in sort of how you come up with this list. and Forbes has not been good to this point

as NFL career like you mentioned. When he was with Rams, he was certainly better. But the problem is that you picked him one spot at of Christian Gonzalez. And he's not even still on the team that drafted him. So we are ranking the draft picks, not necessarily just the players. This is not just who we think is better than the other list.

A lot goes into, we are ranking the draft picks themselves. So again, I think that's a really good way to set the table for what we're talking about here. So, all right, we can go to the next 10. All right, this is, I imagine we're going to have a lot of differences here. Ooh. Because it's just such a long exercise with varying opinions. Some still on our draft opinion, some not. Some really fascinating to see 90 to 81.

All right, what do we got? Let's hit it. Okay. So Richardson was 89. I know you had him in the last group. Obviously, they swung big. and Miss Big. McCarthy.

You got swing big to Miss Big, baby. JJ and Tenek's are obviously two on this group that can really break out of this range. Because they can simply just play better this year. And I was way higher on Pennix as a prospect where I think he will under Stefansky when he's healthy. I think Pennix, I truly still believe in him. The process really led to this as well.

signing cousins. There's a whole lot of it here. Signing cousins, then drafting Pennix, and then the way they used their draft capital, they stopped putting talent around Pennix, and then Pennix, who had injury history in college, gets hurt in the NFL. So that, you know, as much as I like the player a lot,

I was harsh on that one. Van Ness was overdrafted and hasn't become the player they thought he would be. Banks, since after his rookie year, has been a disaster for the Giants. Darius Robinson has not lived, up to first round caliber billing at all, and I thought it was overdrafted. I think I had him in the 60s that year. I mean, Walter Nolan is another guy that could break out of this group.

I really believe that. It just thinks he was hurt last year. I thought he was a little over drafted, but he could break out of this group with a better season. But Arizona, like, they're going to need a lot from him this year. And, you know, I guess I was harsh on that one, too. Yeah, I'm higher on Walter Nolan, but I was also higher on Walter Nolan, like, as a player.

So I'm, there's a lot of time. I'm a little bit of, like, okay, I thought they got plus value getting him at 16 because I think he was my number nine overall player, if I remember correctly. So I really like that. And when he was on the field, I mean, he only played six games. When he was on the field, I felt like he was a game record. So he's going to be a little bit higher on this list than me for me. Excuse me. But we have a lot of the same players.

Tyler, you can reveal my next because I think there's a lot of overlapping here. We both have Lucas Van Ness at 84. Van Ness is tough, man, because. When you look at Lucas Van Ness, I mean, he's basically kind of thrust into a starting role just because they have to start somebody at those spots now. Yeah. But he's picked ahead of Christian Gonzalez, Jackson Smith and Jigba. I mean, like, there are good players that he was picked after. And I felt like it was a luxury for him to go at 13 to Green Bay.

So we see eye to eye there. You got Darius Robinson at 90. I have him at 85. you have Anudu Dikeu Zama at, you had him at like 94. I had him at 86. Honestly, like I probably should have had him lower if we're being completely honest. Bad for two years than didn't play last year with the mainstream. Yeah, that just hasn't worked.

That's tough. I'm super low on Roger Jones as well. Yes, you are. He just has not been good in my opinion. Deontay Banks, I got him at 90. You got him at 87. And that's, that breaks my heart with Deontay Banks because I really liked a lot of the Maryland stuff. Like, I felt like he was one of the.

better press man coverage corners in that draft. And he gets to the NFL, and he has just looked totally overwhelmed. And I'm with you on Tara Ann Arnold, as you're going to see, very, very soon. He's just, I had him at 79. Yeah. So we have him almost the same. We had Miles Murphy exactly the same. The Shamar Stewart process, you know, he got into camp late.

It was a bad year when he played. Yeah. Just an all-around mess. Miles Murphy obviously hasn't developed super well for them. He'll get his chance this year. I think now with no Trey Hendrickson there. You know, I know they drafted Cassius Howell, but hey, he's a rookie. So Malice Murphy's going to get plenty of opportunity to showcase what he's got.

I feel like he has played, though. He just doesn't do anything. No, he just, yeah, he's been a very low-impact player. For a first-round pick, even with you getting picked at 28, yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Xavier Leggett's tough.

no way around it. Now, he gets picked at 32 in 2024, and that was wide receiver one, two, three, four, five, six, seven. So he was wide receiver seven in that class. And so you can say to yourself like,

hey, it's not like they were taking you a wide receiver three and he hasn't panned out. They picked him at 32. But still, he's had a lot of opportunities to really be that guy. And I don't even necessarily just mean as a wide receiver one. alpha. I mean, it's just like a guy who could produce that Carolina has needed, and he absolutely

has not. We both have JJ McCarthy in this group. You trade up a little bit to get him. He's not been good. I've made three. You haven't at 88. Stuart, I have at 88. You have at 85. And then Pennix I've got in my next group. I agree with you. The Michael Penix thing is tough because you had signed Kirk Cousins. Then you, God, it feels. I got it. feels like just went totally rogue to draft him there at, what was he, eight? The old eight, I think. Yep. And an issue here with going at eight is Bo Nix, who I'm very curious to where you have him on this list,

because I think that getting Bo Nix is QB6 in this draft at number 12 is huge value for how I'm judging this pick specifically, given how he got better this past season and what he was towards the end of the postseason before he got hurt. But definitely helped a lot. You're picking pennics over Adunze, over Foshanoo, over Brock Bowers, over Laiutu, over Byron Murphy, like Jared Verst, certainly at 19, who I know we'll get to a lot later. But that's also what makes it tough is you were taking an injured, older quarterback that you kind of didn't necessarily need and you picked him over a lot of really good prospects.

So that's what makes this picked up. He's in my next group. I think he's like 76 or something, but I see him very similarly to the way you set up this conversation when we revealed these picks. Yeah, the process throughout, Pennex has had his own issues,

but the process around him has been awful. I mean, just the Falcon. And I hope he figures it out with Stefansky and can stay healthy and that they do more for him too. Let's look at the next group. All right. Next group, we could jump right into it. This is 80 all the way down to 71.

there's a lot of what are you what are you gasping at you got no one smith at 74 dude i think he's a good player yeah i mean i think nolan's a good player i'm white that's the that's a huge discrepancy for us we'll get to him in a little bit yeah he could break out of this spot where i thought we were getting to players that like dallas turner got better last year we got players that We got players that have started to flash in this group. Matthew Golden really, really needs to break out this year. And I know a lot of Packer fans think he really will. I was always skeptical of him as a first round pick.

And he did nothing to prove to me last year that he should have been one. So I'll wait. And I see it. Like I see Mark in the chats. Like Connor just hates the Packers. Like I typically don't like the way they draft. And there's times where I'm very wrong. And there's times where I'm very right.

Because Lucas Van Ness was a reach. And he was justified to be one of the worst picks. on this list. So Ricky Pearsall is a very tricky one because he feels like he's never healthy. He got better last year, but yeah, no, when he plays, he's pretty good. Yeah, where was he for me? I think he might be in the next group

for me. No. We just didn't. He's, yeah, I think he's the group after, but. Dallas Turner was expensive. Yeah. Yeah. Yep. So he, he's like, that you got to, I got to remind the chat here, cost matters.

Mm-hmm. And he's, starting to turn the corner, I think. But man, that was very, very pricey. You look at, yeah, Nolan Smith, maybe I'm harsh on because he's had a limited role. But I definitely leaned on more, you know, like I got to see it with some of these guys. And this group, you could see across the board. A lot of them haven't been able to show the full player there. Maxwell Harrison, I thought was the reach.

He got hurt. And then he had some moments. And I think he's going to be, he makes a lot more sense for me under Jim Leonard, ironically, even though he was drafted, not by the last coaching staff, because Bean was still the GM, but you get it. I think Harrison is actually in a defense that makes more sense for him, where I think he will move up from this spot. Brisee just hasn't been the impact player they were hoping for.

No, and, you know, I think I have Brisee in this group for me as well. We can, Tyler, we can reveal mine because I think I have Brzee here. Yeah, I have Brisee here. Yeah, I have Brisee 78, you have him 76. I was initially even lower on Brzee, But I was like, you know what? We got to, I had to stop viewing him as we were told that Brazil was like a top five pick at one point, right? And he got picked 29. So for him getting picked at 29, was he, as he's still been a disappointment, yes.

But at least he turned into more of a three down player last year. They had him on the field more. He was better in run defense. He just has not become like the pass rusher that they have wanted him to be. I have Quentin Johnston on this list. You hate Quinn Johnson. Well, here's the problem with Quentin Johnston. What's the two picks after him in 2023?

It's Zay Flowers and Jordan Addison. Two far better receivers. So Quinn Johnson hasn't been. They wanted a big receiver. He hasn't been horrendous. No, I think he's just a solid player. I don't think he's been horrendous. But who gets picked after you and who you drafts?

at the same position definitely matters. And if you want to go with, oh, they wanted a bigger receiver, I can't remember exactly what their tight end room was at the time. So I'd have to go back and remember. But like, Dalton Kincaid gets drafted four picks later. And Dalton Kincaid's basically like a big slot receiving tight end. So that's where I'm at with that one. I just, I can't, I can't overlook the fact that you got picked

and then two better wide receivers got picked right after you. Yeah, the only counter I could say, that's weird from exam higher, so it's me arguing against myself. Addison's lack of availability has been incredibly frustrating. Sure. So that's like the one thing I'll try to give some grace for there, even though I had him ranked higher, then I think I haven't ranked higher. I have to look, actually.

But Jordan Morgan, we both saw the same. I think he'll be fine. Wait, you say Jordan Morgan? Yeah. Yeah, I mean, like, I have Jordan Morgan to 74. I just, he hasn't really set into a role yet for Green Bay. And he will this year. And so I think that there's plenty of room for him to move up.

People are shouting out Graham Barton, too. They're like, isn't Graham Barton solid? It's like, Graham Barton's been fine. Last year was not the best. No, it was not. But like, Graham Barton's been fine for them, but you drafted a center at 26. And that's tough.

Even if you needed an interior offensive lineman, he hasn't been like you draft the center in the first round like you're looking for Linderbom right right I mean like Linderbom is the type of center that goes first round and like Graham Barton has not been that yet so that goes into me being a little bit lower

I have J.C. Latham on this list where do you have Latham? I have Latham on the next group okay 66 because the problem with Latham for me is I don't think he's the worst tackle in the league No, but you drafted him at seven, again, over Olufoshinoo, Tilesi Fuaga.

Bingo. Amarius Mims, Troi Fautano, and then just a whole lot of other, like, really good players as well. And you drafted him at seven. So that goes into this for me. It went into it for me as well and hurt him on the rankings. And Eli makes a good point. He said taking Morgan over Cooper DeGene is sickening. So yeah, I mean, the Green Bay, they typically.

just, you know, take the guys they want. They don't get too hung up in consensus and this and that. I know Kenneth Grant eventually started to play better, but it was a really tough start for him. So hopefully he, you know, once again, we're kind of in the range now where we're getting out of bus territory and we're getting into players we need to see more from. I'll just say my piece about Nolan Smith now.

I have Nolan Smith at 30 on this list. Wow. Yes. I think that Nolan Smith's, and I might just be, Look, I was high on him when he was coming in the league, and I think that he has been hurt, which is not been ideal. Because he's small. That's the problem when you take these small edge rushers. He's smaller, but he's been.

He's not smaller. He is one of the smallest end rushers in the NFL. But I guarantee you he's better than most edge rushers who have 10, 15 pounds on him when it comes to stopping to run. He has not been a prolific pass rusher yet, but this dude can set the edge. Nolan Smith loves football. He is a damn good football player and I think that getting him at 30 that's the big plus value here.

So not only do I think he's a really good football player overall, I think that he, I think that him getting drafted at 30 is big time value for him. So yeah, I got him at 30. Yeah, I hope he can take on, can handle the bigger snap count. He played 41 last year.

You know, you hope that body type and the style because, dude, good athlete. the passion when you hear him talk is awesome. But yeah, you just got to be able to handle that bigger workload and hopefully he'll get that opportunity to do that. All right, yeah. Next, next on the list. Yeah, yeah, that was about it. Good day, everybody. I had Ty Leak Williams on there, but I figured that we'd probably get to

Ty Leak at some point. We could probably have a larger conversation about him. Yeah, I don't think he's that. Tyler Guyton, I had him on the last list. You have him here at 64. He has started for this team, but I think he's, even, and I don't want to be too harsh about it because you potentially got a starting offensive tackle at 29, but I just think that Guyton, he's been inconsistent to the point where you go into this year and you wonder like, okay, how much longer is he going to be a starter? Right. And so that kind of went into it a little bit for me.

Yeah, and it's also, he has the curse of you watch the Cowboys line and they're damn good and he feels like one of the weaker parts of it. He's at 64 for me here. Like he's not a bad player. No, you can't stand him. So I actually feel like I was really nice about Mikel Williams, Broderick Jones, and Chop Robinson. Where I was like, let's see more here. Broderick with the injury we don't know and it hasn't been great. Mike Lell, I did not love as a prospect compared to where they drafted him and he got hurt.

Chop, it's weird because he's such a dynamic athlete and there's moments, but hopefully he's better with this staff this year. I have a lot of these guys in the same spot. I have Chop Robinson at 70. You have him at 69. I have Michael Williams at 68. You have him at 67. The big difference here for me is I have Broderick all the way at,

I think I had of 89th. I've just been really underwhelmed with Broderick Jones and his availability and also how he has played what he's on the field. I wasn't as hard because I think that you had, um, Jaday Barron and Ricky Pierceall already. I wasn't as hard on those guys. I still love Barron. It was just sort of a, I don't want to say it was a strange pick. They drafted him for the future, knowing that he could play slot, he could play safety, he could play on the outside. He just hadn't really gotten a chance to prove it yet. Worthy is in this list too. I have mid-69, you have met 70. Very surprised that we

have these guys who are, uh, this close. I've got Matthew Golden a little bit higher than you. I see being underwhelmed there. I have Ashton Genty at 62. I'm pretty sure he's in my next group. Okay. I wondered if we were going to be very different. He's in my next group. On that one.

I'm a lot higher on Walter Nolan. I haven't been 65 because I just want to believe in him. And I think he's an absolute game record. You're consistent with that because you have Jada Baron after him. We haven't really gotten to see either of them do much of anything. But you liked them as prospects. And I'm going to have some of those guys that I like as prospects, but they haven't gotten to do a lot yet.

I think I went cowards way out here with Walter Nolan at 65, Jody Barron at 66, and then Ricky Pearson at 67. It's just, I got to see a little more. I just lump these guys all together. Yeah. I did the same thing with shop. Worthy. Guyton do a degree.

Bryce Young is probably the one here where I actually thought people were going to be like, what? But the chat was mostly like, now, yeah. Expensive as hell. Right. And they'd have no idea if he's the dude. Got benched. got benched

I honestly there's a world where this is for twilight of his career Andy Dalton there's a world where this is almost on a curve where I was a little nicer but man not looking like a good pick right now no it's not I haven't been 55 so he's in my next list

and it was really just like okay he did some good things this past year definitely got better but it was very up and down for him and in 2024 I mean you talk about up and down you get benched after week two you come back just because Andy Dalton gets into a car accident and injuries of thumb. If Andy Dalton doesn't get in the car accident,

is Bryce Young at like 90 on this list? I don't know, man. You know? Yeah. I don't know. I don't know. You know, at the top of this list for me was guys that are like have been okay so far.

Quentin Johnson, he's been okay. Derek Carmen, only one year. He was okay. Donovan Jackson, only one year. He was okay. There's just not enough of a sample size there to truly know what they are. I thought Latham was getting better last year.

But you mentioned it, Trev. Why I was very harsh on that is I like the tackle. that went after him better. So. Right. Yeah. Genti, so I have him at 62, and I think a lot of people

are talking about Gentie. I think the Raiders, now, I wrestled with this one. I lost sleep over this one. My family was worried. I couldn't eat. We all know that's not true.

With Genti, the reason why I have him low is because I didn't think the Raiders were great last year. I think that some things were out of his control, but I also didn't think that he played particularly well, even when he had opportunities. It's not like he always maximized what was in front of them. Now, always imperfection shouldn't be the bar. I agree with you there that anybody that would say that. But I think that the process of drafting Ashen Gentie,

when you didn't have the offensive line figured out the way that you wanted to, and with the team where it was, that goes into this as well. Because Gentie now has, I think, the second best running back contract in the NFL that's only second because Jeremiah Love just went third. Because of the guarantees. Because the guarantee is on it. So you're paying Ashen Genty quite literally top dollar for the running back position and your team wasn't even there yet. And I think that John Spitec is really saving that entire situation because he's making the

team a lot better very quickly. But I think the big caveat that you could have with all of this is Pete Carroll was a without question massive disaster for them. and, you know, how they handled the offensive line, who was out there, who wasn't the mix of the five guys that were there, how they handled the quarterback situation, like all of that stuff, I think was just a major issue for them. But I still didn't love the process of drafting Gentie when you did there at number six overall for this team, especially with guys like Ted McMillan was there. Calvin Banks was there. Colston Loveland was there. Tyler Warren was there. That stuff. Right. Like you have so many other players who could be great offensive pieces. And maybe Genti totally turns it around and I'm singing a different tune a year from now. But it's hard for me to look at

that pick and go, yep, I don't care. I still think it was good. Because I even questioned at the time and it wasn't very good last year. Honestly, the one I'm more surprised about than anything on your list is Anton Harrison because I know you really liked him as a prospect and I feel like he's a solid starting tackle for Jacksonville. I do too. I think I think I was I think I'm lower on him than I should

be. I think I should probably have like Trevor's always liked him. No, I know Anton Harrison was like one of my guys. Yeah, and he's been a good pro considering he was taking that 27th is late to take an offensive tackle like all the premium tackles it feels like just go so early. Yeah, you know what?

I don't know, ball. He should be higher. He should be higher on this list. Where I'm not sure. We can sort of discover that as we continue to go on here. At least we covered that. Yeah. Protected you from Anton Harrison. I always hate. See, you did this. You did this with me with AJ Halsey. When you had to one up me on where you had

Halsey in your ranking and now I look like the hater with my boy. That's how it goes. One of my guys and Connor likes him more than I do and he's not even one of Conner's guys. It's a master class of deception by me. Yeah, it really is. All right, let's go to the 50s. You can never let him know. your next move. Never ever. Take a page out of the Wrigler's playbook. 60 to 51.

Nothing too crazy here, I think. Marv has been perplexing. Ooh. Is it Mar? No, this is where this is going to get really fun. Yeah, it's going to get very different. The guys who are below 60, I think it's easy for everybody to go like, yeah, Probably not great. But this is now where we're getting into major differences. Because I think Troy Fautano is a stud. I think they've asked him to play left tackle and right tackle. I think he's really good,

especially getting him at 20 as like OT6 or 7 in that class. I think Leiatu has been awesome. He was top 10 in pressures last year. I think he's really improved and he's going to be fantastic as well. Rome, I'm kind of in the same spot with you. Josh Simmons, though, I can understand not really knowing what to do with he's right in the middle.

I'm way higher on him just because you got a potential franchise left tackle at 32. But that's always the thing that we come back to is potential. And you just have to be, and I understand there's a lot to unpack there and all of that. And if Simmons shows that that potential comes to fruition of being a reliable, stable tackle, then he's going to be, when we. do this next year because he's only in the 2025 class in the top 25 picks. But we need to see that. Adunze was tricky

for me. Oh, Junete was also tricky for me. Because Adunzey's been fine. Mm-hmm. And, but Adunzee was drafted in the top 10, so you need to be like a little careful. I agree with you. And it's funny that Fatanu must be my Anton Harrison version because he was one of my favorite prospects. And I feel

like I'm like, why am I that low on him? Yeah, you're a hater. He's a good player. Dude, I have Falanu. He needs to stay healthy too, though. Dude, I have Faltonu 27. I don't think that's nuts. I love the player. Left and right versatility for him. Brother, he's the best offensive tackle on the team now.

Well, let's not act like that's some amazing bar to clear. Come on, man. I'm trying to give him credit here. I'm trying to help our guy out. That's not. Latsu, I think, has been solid. I think, though, when I watch the Colts, I'm like, man, this team, the thing that stands out to me is up front.

They need to get after the quarterback. I don't look at him as a, I think he'd be a good number two, but he's a number one on that team, and they aren't good enough up front. Damn, I thought Latu had a great year last year. He was solid. Man, I think we just view that differently then.

Yeah, but I also want to factor in, hold on, I want to go. Somebody in the chat, somebody in the chat said, where was this? I got to scroll back up. Treves about the show JSN at 54 and defend it wholeheartedly. No, I remember why I had law two at 60. I wouldn't be that high on JSN. Jared verse went after him and he's just a lot.

Just kidding. Jared verse is just a lot better. Shit, Jared verse did go, oh, man. He's just a lot better. No, you're right. And that's not some, like Jared verse I had ranked ahead of him. So that's it for me. That's a good call.

I didn't factor that in. So I'm a lot higher on Law 2. I've got law to 12. 24th. I think he's a hell of a player. I think Campbell is going to be damn good for the Eagles, even from the little we got to see of last year. I think so too. Easy to put him here already. Will Campbell's a tricky one. Because there is no denying he made New England's run game a lot better last year. I have not liked him at tackle and I've said that. And they're riding it out tackle. He,

came back from injury and was awful. So how much do you factor in coming back from injury? He's just a very difficult player in rank. But they took him fourth overall. So you can't be all sunshine and rainbows. Like, I mean, Kelvin Banks and Armand Membu were better than him last year.

100%. It's just simple. It's just that simple. Yes. So I didn't really know what to do with him and just put him right at 57. I have him at, where am I here? And I agree with 18 out of 96.

I should have had him behind Fitano. That's a miss for me. me during this process. I think I have Campbell of 42 and it's sort of, but I see him very similarly. I mean, I have Romo Dunzei 44. So I see both of those players pretty similarly to you as I didn't really know what to do with them. I think Roan has been fine, but he's been a top 10 pick and I don't think he's quite

been a top 10 pick type of an impact player for you. Will Campbell obviously has been a starting left tackle for the New England Patriots, but it was tough for him. I know, I know. I know. the postseason. I know, I know, I know. But even when he was healthy, it was a little, it's a little tougher for him. And the problem is, is sort of what you mentioned there in 2025. It's not that I'm totally just negative on Will Campbell, who I liked a lot in that draft. Membu was better.

Kelvin Banks was better. Shoot. Josh Connerly's second half of his season was really nice last year. He turned the corner. And Josh Simmons' best was a lot better than Will Campbell's best, I think. And you got him at 32. and you dropped to Will Campbell at 4. I think that goes into it. I think I have Marvin Harrison in this group. Yeah. You do not.

Oh, no, I don't. Is he in the next one? Yeah, he's at 47. I'm still holding on. To what? I still believe. To what? In Marv.

Okay. Clearly you don't because I'm higher on him than you are. Yes, that is true. Yeah, this is where we got very different. Although Malachi Stark's similar for us. Although, and we're going to be very close on Will McDonald's, I think. I have Will of 49. Okay.

I wondered if that was, if you were going to consider that blasphemy. I really wasn't sure. Will was drafted 15th overall, and right now he's a solid pass rusher. Oh, somebody in the chat just said, I'm too nice for Will McDonald. I think Will McDonald's fine. See, he's one of the ultimate, like, context players. How is Will McDonald's supposed to have 15s' sacks? when the Jets are losing by 17 points

four minutes into the game. This is the problem with Will McDonald. Now he's not good against the run, but he has had a double-digit sack season already. Right. What he's good at, the Jets can't be getting murdered in the first quarter of every game for him. I mean, he's got 18 and a half sacks the last two years.

Is that a bust? No. He's just a solid pass rusher. Yeah. That's why he's smack in the middle of both our rankings, 49 and 54. The chat's mad at me for, I think, Omari and Hampton, having him at 59. Yeah, I think Hampton's going to be a stud.

I do. And I think at 22, it's a reasonable pick. I think so, too, but I feel like 59 was a reasonable number. I feel like you're going off of what's happened so far. I have him headed Gentie. Yeah, yeah, but yeah. So, yeah, it's not crazy. Yeah.

It's not crazy. McDonald gets 11 sacks this year. Wow. He's already had a 10-sack season. Big Tony. Tony, let's go. I think Derek Harmon's a good player. I got him in the top 60.

I got him at 58. Yeah, I thought he was solid. Yeah, trying to think what else. People are really low on Kincaid. I feel like Kingade's been good when he's been top. I guess I was too high on Kincaid then. I have a 35. Yeah, I mean, I, dude, I got him at 53 and I feel like,

and I did not love Dolton Kincaid as a prospect. I thought he was solid. but he does go against my like he misses a lot of time and he doesn't block at the position which drives me nuts but he's a dynamic pass catching threat dynamic so I don't know I think he's good and I feel I feel like people are people are saying that 53 is low on him I think that Kincaid's good though somebody says so this is what this is what I love about doing ranking episodes somebody's like Connerly at 52 is wild wild what wild high wild low wildly accurate.

I think it's totally normal. Wildly off-toos? Wildly normal? Brother, this is next level. This is crazy mid. This is crazy normal. Oh, man. I thought Connolly had a really nice back half for the season last year,

but I still think he's a work in progress. And I think the same with Talesei Fuaga, who has had to play left and right tackle, up and down season for him last year. But I think these guys are really solid. But getting Connerally at 29, I think definitely helps his value. And I think that he did finish the season strong. But it's kind of one of those small sample size players where it's a little bit more difficult for me to buy in all the way.

Because even though I liked where he was going, I still got to see it totally from him. I mean, I say that. And I've got guys who are in the 2025 class who are a lot higher than this. But somebody earlier was like, hey, can we get a shout out for the NFLSD discord? I was late joining the show. Yes, you can get a shout out. Boy, did you miss some news? We gave a shout out at the beginning of the show as well.

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And if you aren't smash that subscribe button, we would love for you to be a part of the addicts. What happens first, 75K or Trevor getting a job? I hope it's 75K. I'm going to say you get a job first. nah now i believe in the good people out there who are the wriggler you control this that's true you don't have to accept the job to be unemployment will continue until a 75k is reached i will not go to work until we have 75,000 subscribers my wife's like the hell you won't yeah that's what you think oh man all right 41 to 50 you got to go see there's anton harrison yeah the goat yeah

Yeah. Wait, you got a Martin Hampton in 47? Yeah, he's pretty good. What? Hold, wait, wait a second. Did you have him at 59? You were using me as a human meat shield in the trenches of World War I. Trevor, get out there.

You were, what? We'll give you suppressing fire. Fed me the wolves. I like that you got a Mary Smiths in here in this next group of 10. Another guy that I feel like is a real. It's a damn good player. He's just when you're that big, you get some weird injuries.

Although he played all 17 last year. And I think he's good. So, this is an easy one. Same with Connerly, because I think he's on that trajectory as well to be a really high-end tackle. The, okay,

the Travis Hunter conversation. I think Travis Hunter's going to be a really good player. But you basically, you could have had multiple high-end players from what you gave up to get. This is the one where the value of the pick factor is so much into the ranking. Travis Hunter is going to be better than the 44th best player out of this collection of 95 players. We hope. We hope.

Good Lord, he'd better be. I mean, I haven't at 46. I have him in the same exact range as you. Well, let's see. There you go. But to forget living up to the expectations after what you traded for him, to even tap into 80% of the, the expectations is such a high bar. Yeah.

I had Zabel at 42, and I saw a lot of people surprised by that as if it's low. I think Zabel's a really good starting guard. But if you take a guard in the top 20, like, he better be that. Yeah, I have Zabel, I have Zabel in the next group. Yeah, he's a good player. I also have, there was another player that I had in the next group. Oh, Emeris Mims. I have a Meryst Mims at 32.

So, yeah, I feel like I'm, I might have been low on Mims because Mims was really putting it together last year. together last year. He was really putting it together last year. Mims could be in the top 30 of this for next year's edition. Yeah, and to get him, dude, I think he could be even higher than that because he was picked 18th in 2024. He was picked

after Joe Alt, obviously good. J.C. Latham, Olufoshinoo, Talizue, Tilesia Fuauga, and then it was Amiris Mim. So to get him at 18, a guy who might be a franchise offensive tackle for you for a team that really needs it, yeah, I had him at 32. So you had

Carly at 45, I had him at 52. You had Rome in the last group. I have Rome with Dunes A here at 45. I have Cam Ward at 45 here on this list. I don't really know what to do with Cam Ward. Because the Titans weren't great last year. Obviously, they fired their coach. What did Calhahan get fired like six games into the season or something?

But Ward was exactly what he was at Miami under the stipulations that he played in with Tennessee. I hope it's a lot better for him this year. but also I sort of looked at Ward like I had a second round grade on Cam Ward now that's not to say I would have picked somebody else instead for the Titans at 1 that kind of had to pick Cam Ward

there wasn't any quarterback to really choose from there but you pick a quarterback at 1 and I felt like Cam was largely the same quarterback at Miami that he was with the Tennessee Titans so I just really I did not know what to do with this player I did not know what to do

with the number one overall pick type of a quarterback whose coaching staff and supporting class cast clearly were not good enough but he also struggled when it came to the turnovers, had a ton of fumbles which is still an issue for him when it was going from college to the NFL and so I just I really didn't know where to put him on this list

so I haven't met 45. I took a little harder stance with him because it's just where I had him ranked for the draft and we've seen one year, one year where the situation couldn't have been worse around him and he played really well the last what six games of the year. So I haven't in my I haven't met 29. I like

Cam Ward a lot. I think he's going to be a good pro. I think he's going to take big steps with Brian Daible and better talent around him and hopefully he does that this year. I think Cancy is probably the biggest talking point on this list between us. Good football player, not healthy.

Small. From where he plays. Yeah. I mean, you have him at 43. I have him in 48. And I just love this player. No, he's great. I think he, I think you mentioned him being smaller. I even think he's been good when he's on the field. He's just been hurt. He's a good player.

He's just not available for them. That's the issue. It's just hurt a lot, productive when he plays. I love the player. I love the prospect. He was an outlier I was willing to bet on. And honestly, for what he was able to do, what? The first two years, he was well worth the top 20 pick easily.

But he needs to bounce back after missing last year. Somebody asked me to defend Peter Skronsky at 49 because he's a 49 for me. That might be a little harsh for Peter Scronski. Because, like, you're taking a guard at 11. You drafted him to immediately be a guard, which I don't love that they did anyways. I feel like he could have been a tackle, but they were like, nope, doesn't matter. We're picking you at 11 and we're making you a guard. I think Skronsky is a solid guard.

Like, I think he's the best offensive lineman on their O line, which is, you know, going back to the conversation that we had a few minutes ago. I don't know how much of a compliment that is. But, you know, you look at the players that were picked around him. Okay, it's, you know, Parris Johnson Jr. Bijon Robinson, Jalen Carter, Darnell Wright, and then it's Peter Skronsky, then it's Jamir Gibbs. It's like, okay. But Broderick Jones was the only offensive tackle who was drafted over him, and Skoransky's

been certainly better than him. Like you have Christian Gonzalez and Jack Campbell, Collegiate Chanci, Jackson Smith, and Jigba, like those guys were all drafted after Skironsky, but I don't know, maybe 49's too harsh. I think he's a solid player. I don't really mean for 49. come off his disrespect. It's just, you know, you picked a guard at 11, and I think he's been a solid guard,

but did you really need to pick a guard at 11 type of a thing? Yeah, I had Skoroski at 40. 40. I think he's a good starter. But, yeah, once again, it goes back to what I said about Zabel, a player I really like. And it's even a more premium example because you took him in the top 11 picks.

He has to be at that spot. You hit on the player. It was a high cost. Number 40 is pretty good. on a list of 95. So somebody, John said this in the chat. What's Marvin Harrison Jr.

done to be top 47? Well, 47 in an exercise of 95 is basically smack dab in the middle. Marv's not trash. Like, Marv's not a horrendous football player. He basically went for 908 as a rookie. Right, right.

Like, he didn't, he wasn't Megatron immediately. Like, I think some people get really carried away with him to be. Has he been disappointing? Absolutely. That's why a player who is as talented as he is is ranked 47 on this list. You know, he was specifically picked after, um, or he was picked ahead of Malik neighbors

and not as much Romo Dunzee, but more importantly, Brock Bowers as well, who went 13, right? And these are just offensive weapons that are straight up better than Marvin Harrison, Jr. who got picked after him. But I don't think that, I don't think Marvin Harrison Jr. is a horrible football player. At least I don't think there's a big enough sample size to say that. I think it's totally fair to have Marvin Harrison at 47, given the disappointment that he's been so far as the number four overall pick, but then also not getting carried away and thinking that he doesn't have any value for them at all.

Right. I think it's just somehow swung way too far. Yeah. Drafter, Aiden drafted before Lab McConkey. It's very true. It's very true. But if we hold a lot of players of that bar, you know, the draft starts getting real ugly.

So the last guy who was in my group. that I just wanted to touch on was Mason Graham. I had Mason Graham at 43. I think Mason Graham was fine last year. I think it's very fair to have wanted to ask more from your number five overall pick. So I don't think Graham was terrible, but I have him right next to Will Campbell at 42 and 43.

Wow. Because I think that it's very fair to say that you would have wanted more from two guys who you pick up. in the top five there. I think he was such a better player than Will Campbell. I know it's hard to kind of stack it up. They play on different sides of the ball. They were picked back to back. Man, I thought Campbell, I thought Campbell was solid. He just got exposed by some of the better rushers in the NFL. I think he was the biggest liability on their team during the

playoffs. Well, during the playoffs, he was playing. He was playing. He was not an easy assignment. He was playing hurt. He was playing hurt. He was playing hurt. He was playing hurt. I can't use that for the entire reason. If you're that much of a liability, then you shouldn't be playing. So, I don't know. I like Graham a lot. I'm excited about him on that Brown's front. He's going to be higher for me. I've John Campbell at 41. You had him a little bit earlier in the show, but he's a good player. Yeah, he's going to be really good Campbell. Next 10. There's Skoroski, as we mentioned. Ooh. What's the initial reaction to you? I love doing that. I just having the, like, the heavy reaction and not saying anything.

Um, there are two players on this list that I am significantly higher on. It will be a mecca, a buca. Nope. Okay. A buca's close. Where is it? Byron Murphy? Yes.

Yes. Yeah, Murphy. Yes. I see it with Murphy. Yes. I do. But I mean, top 40, like, this is getting in the range where you're an impact player. Sure.

Which I know Addison's availability has been a problem. but when he plays, Jordan Addison is a good player. Yeah, I know I'm with you. I have Addison 40. So I have him in this next list as well. I know you are a little lower on Kincaid, Fulanga, and Walker, so I know it's not them. Is it Paris Johnson? Correct.

Wow. So I think he's been, well, I haven't been 32. I think he's been good. I haven't seen the highs as some guys I have ahead of him. Although I have a lot of the offensive linemen here, like Olu is here, Tyler Booker. who as good is here. Yeah. So I have Paris Johnson at 15.

Wow. And the reason why isn't necessarily because I think he's for sure better than even some players that are sort of like around his group. But I do think he is a very good offensive tackle who has been asked to start at right and left tackle in the NFL. So he's got that side versatility to him. and if we are judging picks specifically, you got to remember how they acquired Paris Johnson.

They moved from 3 to 12, then back to 6, got the player that they would have taken at 3, three picks later, and got an extra first round pick out of it. So that's a really good call. So that's why I'm a lot higher on the Paris Johnson pick because you got a really good player, a versatile starting offensive tackle,

and you had a master class in how you acquired him. Yeah, no, that's a really good call on the value of it. It goes to show you how many of these good young offensive linemen have already panned out. I mean, we both have Olu on this list. You have Kelvin Banks, so I'm even higher on. I think Fulong has been good considering what's been, he's been, the situation he's been dealt with, handed. Jalim Walker getting away from the offensive line,

he showed me as a rookie, like he gets stepped right down and play standup edge. And the past rush will really grow. It will. He has that kind of ability. I'd say the guy that maybe I should have been higher on here, I'm with you, Byron Murphy. Seattle just had so many waves of guys in that front and just speaks to the immense talent that they had

in that group. Trying to think if there's anything else weird here. Not really. At Buka, yeah, you haven't met 33. It's because of the hot start, it got turned into like, is this guy a superstar? Right, right. And he's probably a really good number two wide receiver.

Yeah. Or maybe a low end number one in year two. We'll see. Peter in the chats and Tyler Warren would have been number one if he got drafted by the Raiders, absolutely would have. It was all there. It was all there for him.

And they passed up on it. I have Brian Thomas at 37. He's a tough one. He's a tricky one. Yeah. You've got, you're higher on him because he hasn't shown up on your list yet. I'm at 27, so it's not wild. Yeah, so we're pretty close.

But I did factor in, like, getting him at 23rd overall. Right. That's sort of what's saving him a little bit here because the first year was absolutely nuts. And then last year, last year. he had all the drops and then they traded for a wide receiver and Parker Washington's usage went up. Brent Strange's usage went up and they basically just, they found other options for his targets. Obviously he doesn't get traded, but there's talk of him being on the trade block. The chats mad at me for Zay Flowers at 36.

36 was very solid for Zay Flowers and like I think he's a, I think he's a really good player. I had him at 30. Okay, so yeah, he's coming up for you. Like I think Zay is really good. I think that they've gotten what they've wanted out of Zayflow. Actually, no, that's probably not being fair. They've gotten more than they could have asked for from Zayflowers, who's off back-to-back 1,000-yard seasons.

But I do think that this past year was definitely the best for him. So if he continues, like, if he has another year that's very similar to what he had last year, I think he's a lot higher on this list. So maybe I'm a little bit too low on him. But I think Isaiah is good. I didn't mean for this to be. It's so funny. Disrespect.

I think that he's like appropriate there at 36. half the chat thinks you're way too high and I'm half the chat thinks you're way too low on him which means he nailed it. Yeah, which means I nailed it. Tyler Warren at 31, a little bit of a surprise for me. I mean, getting that kind of three down presence as a blocker and pass catcher at 14

is not a ton of picks better than that for me. I had him at 15. Man, I think it probably just comes down to the one year sample size with him because again, when I put Tyler Warren at 31, I was like, all right, I feel like I'm pretty high on Tyler Warren. Like, I feel like that's giving him some good respect because of exactly what you mentioned. He is such a great all-around tight end already that he showed in his rookie season.

Maybe I do need to be a little bit higher on him, but I think it was probably the lower sample size of just saying like, hey, he really killed it in year one. Let's see if he's able to replicate a year two. And obviously he shoot up the list if he does. Let's go to the next group. 32. CJ says, can't have a book over his day, though. See, that's where you're wrong is that I'm the wriggler, so I can't.

I absolutely can. And you did. And that might be sure. Let's see 30 through 21 here. I said already, I'm higher on Mason Graham. I think he's going to be a star defensive tackle. I thought Banks and Membu were tremendous last year. I mean, the tape is for rookies, high level offensive tackle play.

Darnell Wright, if he just cuts down a little bit of the penalties. Oh, dude, I have Darneau Wright way higher. I think he's awesome. Dude, he was a pro bowl. Wait, he would know he was an all pro. Hold on. Let me get that right. Chadson's second team all pro.

Second team all pro. Yeah. He's really, really good. Jack Campbell is in total stud. And that pick was questioned at the time, taking a linebacker there. He's a great off ball linebacker. Somebody's somebody to chat just said, are you kidding? No context.

I love that. We don't know, Mr. Jack, Matt. We don't know if we're kidding. not. I might be. Man, you love, you love Mason Graham. Yeah, I loved him in the draft. I thought he was great last year. All right. I mean, they did. So what goes into this is they did trade down from two to five. Yeah, they got an insane hall. They got a great player. They got a player that was better than Travis Hunter.

Yeah. Yeah. You guys got it. You got in the chat, just remember like we are ranking the picks. So the player who they, the player and who they are goes into that. but also the situation and how they acquired them and all that good stuff. I get the comments because a lot of you guys are fans of teams

or fans of players. They're like, this guy should be higher. When we get to the next group, tell me who, because we got a hell of a lot of great quarterbacks to still get through here.

But yeah, I said I took a stance on Cam Moore. I think he's going to be much better this year. C.J. Stroud is one of the most perplexing players in the NFL. I have him at 23. Dude. I got him at 23.

one more giant stinker, and we're going to be like, are the Texans going to roll forward with CJ Stroud? Yeah, he's regressed all three seasons, and the end of this past year was not good. Or he reverts back to one of the greatest rookie quarterback seasons we've ever seen. I don't know. I think he's somewhere in the middle.

I don't think he's as bad as he was last year. I don't think he's as good as he was as a rookie. But I'm not going to lie and say I don't have a, I didn't have enough confidence to put him in the top 20. Tanner says you could choose one for the next. five years, you choose Cam Ward or C.J. Stroud. I'd still pick Stroud. I would still pick Trout. I think I'd have to pick Stroud because we have seen him played an incredibly high level. Right, right. So I had Nolan Smith. This is where I have him at 30. I think he's a hell of a football player.

And I think getting him at number 30 overall massive value. So that's one of the biggest discrepancies that we have. I have Jack Campbell at 29. You have him at 28. Great player. Pro bow. Pro bowler, right? Pro Bowl? Yeah, pro bowl is lost. Whoa, well, hold on. Wait a second. First team all pro. as well. That means a lot. He, I thought, was one of the best run defending linebackers in the NFL this past season. Now, you could say to yourself, oh, you know, like run defense for linebackers, it's not super valuable. But to play it at the level that Jack Campbell played it at this past season, I do think means a lot. So I think it's respect to him. And especially because, hey, I'll say this,

I didn't like the Lions draft in 2023. That first round, you drafted Jamir Gibbs at 12 and then Jack Campbell at 18, I was like, oh boy, those are, you're taking risks there. I think both of them have been great. Jemir Gibbs has been phenomenal. And then Jack Campbell, you know, you can argue, okay, does he have enough coverage ability to pick him in the top 20 of a draft as a linebacker? I think that's a deeper discussion, but certainly the way that he played last year was a hell of a football player. I have Troy Faltono at 27 here.

I think he's a hell of a football player too. This is where I also have Josh Simmons. This is where I have Armand Memby. This is where I have Laotu Latu. I have Darnell Wright in this group as well. I have him at 21. He is somebody who I think has really, really blossom to gotten better every single season. So I really like that.

I got Jalen Carter at 22. And the Jalen Carter at 22 spot is complex because you can say to yourself, you got one of the most talented players in the draft at number nine. But the reason why you got him at number nine was legal issues with him. and where Jalen Carter's flashes have been better than so many other defensive tackles in the league, they've still just been flashes. I mean, you look at his overall passage win percentage over the last couple of seasons, like it's lower than you think it would be.

Like it's just, it's a lot more flash in the pants stuff with Jalen Carter, who is a one-man wrecking crew. There's no doubt about it on certain plays, but his inconsistencies brought him low. lower on this list, Connor, than I thought that I was going to have him here at number 22 after diving a little bit deeper into that. He's in the top 10 for me.

I think his presence on the field changes the entire structure of their front. But, you know, they were one of the teams that could take that risk on him with a top 10 pick. And I gave credit to the Eagles for having that kind of infrastructure that it's worked out. So I'm incredibly high on Jalen Carter. So the value of the pick and the player. So somebody in the chat said this. team at conversation.

So you got McMillan at 24. I have McMillan at 19. So pretty close. He was the offensive rookie of the year last year. I don't think that's a slight. I don't understand why this is viewed as having him in this range.

Guys, you have to see what the players that are left. He's not in the conversation with the players in the top 20. He was really good as a rookie. Was he Pooka Nakuwa? No. But, yeah, he was really good as a rookie 24 i was like wow i'm really high on tetaroa mcmillan see i love this in the chat arthur says jackson dart 28 what does that mean

the too high wild what does this mean i have jackson dart at 28 and i think the 28 is very very fair for jackson dart obviously if you have been listening to this podcast for a while you know that when we did what was it like regrade at the end of the year or like whatever episode exercise that we did. I was lower on Dart than you were, and I think other people were, because it's like, hey, I think that Dart showed more than I thought he was going to show, but I still think it's very logical to not be totally all in yet and really need to see more from him.

But the fact of the matter is, you got a potential franchise quarterback at the back end of the first round. And I think that's huge value for great. pics and ranking picks. So I think 28 is perfectly fine for how I view DART and then also how they acquired this player. Yeah, I thought it was a masterful job of how they got him and where they got them. And what he did for that team without much help last year when you watch his starts

is remarkable. And if he could stay healthy and they keep talent around him this year and the coaching is is good, he has star potential. He really, really does. The energy he brought to that team was remarkable. All right, you want to hit anybody else in this group? We're moving on. No, let's go to the next one,

because this is where you're going to see, like, the superstar level players. Oh, yeah. Where I have three giants in this group. Okay, you do have Bo. You do have Boat Top 20. Look at you. Yeah.

Look at you. I have, uh, well, because is Boas, Good as yes. The quarter, no, he's definitely not as good

as Drake May and Jaden Daniels and I even really like Caleb Williams. I know there's more debate around that. But Bo is perfect for that team. And Boe elevated his play

in the playoffs before he got hurt to a level that is so important. Now, this two procedures on this ankle, I hope he comes back

and he can build off of that because he was on such a great trajectory. But that was a great process from the Broncos. They got a guy that they can not only win with, but can go out there and play at a level that can win them games. And yes, he's had some lows and some inconsistencies. And he doesn't have the same traits as some of the higher-end guys, but he's perfect for them. And getting him at 12 and being able to have him thrive in their system was a masterful job by the Broncos. I don't want to take anything away from your points. Why don't you run through sort of like 11 through 20 or just the point?

players that are standing out for you. Carter's going to be a superstar. The film last year tells the different story than the sack totals. Abdul Carter, by the way. Oh, my, yeah, Abdul Carter. Yeah, I am a 17, so I feel you. Joe Alt's got to be healthy, but if he stays healthy, I think he's going to be one of the best tackles in the league.

I agree. That's where it comes down to. Getting Christian Gonzalez at 17 is absurd. Taking Emmanuel Forbes at 16 is just an all-time commanders, you know, screw up. Yeah. And the Patriots capitalize off of it. Malik neighbors, another guy with that.

health problems, but he could be one of the best receivers in the league when he's healthy. I've been super high on Dart. Loveland in Ben Johnson's offense should be a top three tight end in the league in the next three years. You know, I get there's the whole combo with Bijan because he's a running back, but Bijan's a superstar. An absolute superstar. Yes.

Superstar players need to be in the top 15 of this. Yeah. Quignon Mitchell is one of the best corners in the NFL. They got him at 22. Yep. Yep. I see a lot of this very similarly. I am, it's funny, I thought, I thought I was going to have to defend myself heavily on Colson

Loveland. And you have him at 17 and I have him at 12. I think, I think that it really took some guts to take Colson Loveland at 10. You, yes. You took him over Tyler Warren and you took him when you could have gone different directions. They had trench needs on both sides of the ball. And I think that Loveland, what Loveland showed since week seven of last season, was that he was one of the best tight ends in the NFL already. So I have him at 12. I have Byron Murphy at 13. Byron Murphy is a front changing player for the Seattle Seahawks. So much of what Seattle does is based around the versatility that they have with Byron Murphy. He can play so many different spots on that defensive line. He defends the run like an absolute ox.

He had seven and a half sacks last year on top of that. I think that he is a total game changer on the defensive line, and you got him at number 16 overall. Paris Johnson Jr., I already mentioned. It's the fact that I think that this is not only a good player, but it's about how the Arizona Cardinals acquired him. They traded back, then traded back up. So essentially, you're picking Paris Johnson, Jr.

and got an extra first round pick out of it. That was masterful there. A lot of these guys are in the same spot. I have Caleb at 20. I have Caleb Williams at 20. I don't know if that's going to like rub people the wrong way. I think that Caleb is, I think the ceiling with Caleb Williams is still as high as you ever dreamed that it would be. But Caleb got picked one and Jaden's had a better season than him.

Drake Mays had a better season than him. And both of those guys were picked after him. I think that goes into it. Now, it's not to say like I'm any lower on Caleb Williams, but the completion percentage for him is still hovering around 60%. It was less than 60% this entire season. I think Caleb, when it comes to completing the throws that the 1% of quarterbacks in the world make, yeah, I mean, he's absolutely in that bucket.

But I think he still needs to be more consistent in that regard. And I think that you have two quarterbacks who are picked behind him, who have had singular better seasons both as rookies and in their second year. So, yeah, I think that I'm totally fine with putting Caleb here at number 20. So I agree with your take on the quarterbacks over him, but they got him with the Panthers pick, which had to put him in the top 10 for me. I didn't think of that part.

I didn't think of that part. I not only really like the player and the pathway he's on, it was a total heist of how they got him. And he's starting to work out. So he had to be in the top 10 for me based on the value of the pick. A lot of people are saying like Jaden Daniels second season, Jaden Daniels wasn't great last year, but he was also completely hurt. Right.

I'm not trying to cherry pick here, but Jaden Daniels rookie season was unbelievable. It was insane. Jaden Daniels rookie season was so damn special in like every facet of the game. accuracy, deep passing, who he was as a runner, taking care of the football. Everything was there for Jaden Daniels. So Jaden last year, he didn't start out well, but neither did anybody on Washington's franchise.

And then he had the elbow injury. And like he was just, he was never the same player after the elbow injury. So I have no problem with where I have these guys ranked, especially with the fact that Caleb got drafted number one. Now, you bring up a good point of the fact that. they got that pick because of the Carolina Panthers, I could factor that into it, and I could have that pick higher because of that.

But I have no problem with assessing things the way that I did with Caleb versus Jaden versus Drake May. All right. This is the big one. Malik Neighbors, by the way, I got Malik Neighbors at 16. Malik Neighbors had a phenomenal season. Catching passes from Daniel Jones, Tommy DeVito, Tim Boyle, Connor Rogers.

That year? I think Drew Locke played that year. Yeah, Drew Locke. Yes. Yes. Yeah, Malik Neighbors is, I thought it was absolutely phenomenal in his rookie season. Sports debate arena is saying that we're punishing neighbors for his. Neighbors is 16. I don't know what he wants to do.

What do you want from us? Oh, man. All right. I got Devon Wooderspoon at 11, by the way. But I do have a lot of... It's blasphemy. The best player in the Super Bowl on the Super Bowl championship team at 11. Whoa Devon Wither spoons

Sorry Hold on Devon Wetherspoon's a hell of a player But you picked him at 5 You're supposed to be a hell of a football player What do you mean They won the Super Bowl And he should have been the MVP

No, the kicker should have been the MVP It was good kicking performance All right, let's go to the top 10 What do we got here? All right, fire away There it is Yeah Oh wow, I thought you were going to like

Fall on the floor or something No, I mean like you have Caleb a lot higher than I do, but again, like, I kind of already went through that. It's just factoring in the the value. Jared verse at 19 is insane. Brock Bowers can be one of the best skill players in the NFL. Jemir Gibbs is. Jamir Gibbs is. I think there's maybe no more dangerous, scary player with the ball in his hands than Jemir Gibbs. This is where it gets a little weird, right? Because Jaden Daniels, Drake May and Caleb Williams have all been pretty awesome at various points of their very, very young NFL careers. I did factor in a little bit of creativity here where if you were drafting all

these players, you obviously start your team with the quarterback. But they were a first overall pick, a second overall pick, and a third overall pick. It's like you take the quarterback. So where I gave the creativity bump and had Will Anderson Jr. one, Jackson Smith and Big Jigba 2 and Devin Witherspoon 3 is, you know, those were not just consistent. census slam dunk, like just take the quarterback. These guys are game changers at non-quarterback positions. Will Anderson. The Texans had a Super Bowl defense last year.

Yep. And he was the best player on it. Yep. They should have, they could have won the Super Bowl. Their defense was that good. He was the best player on it. Yep. Jackson Smith and Jigba was one of the best offensive players in the NFL last year on

the Super Bowl champion Seahawks. I thought Devin Witherspoon was the best player in the game. And yes, you're right. They took him at five, Treb. So he better be damn good as a corner at five. But he is. And he is. He is. He is. He is.

He's a total game. There is zero. There is no Devon Witherspoon slander on this podcast. There wasn't been draft. When we were talking about him in 2023, we both absolutely love them. We both absolutely justified him getting picked that high. He has been absolutely everything that they could have wanted him to be. He's been fantastic.

Now, I see people asking about the cost that go. get Will Anderson. But I actually kind of factored in the opposite. That... The Texans making the move for him... Was a good move. Yeah. They used the...

You got one of the best players in the league, regardless of the position. And they used an asset from the Deshawn Watson trade. It was masterful. Masterful job going to get him. So that was a big point to me that that's actually incredible G. Deming, if you're trading up assets to go get a guy, he better be one of the best in the league,

and Will Anderson is. All right, you want to see mine? AJC. Knows Ball says the price was Darius Robinson. Oh, my God. Yes, I do. Okay. There we go.

Oh, wow, we have the same number one. We both have the same number one. I never would have guessed that. I thought I was like, not galaxy branding, but I'm like, you got to talk yourself into this one. Nope. Will's phenomenal. Will's, wills everything that you could have asked. him to be. He's been a first team all pro. He was a defensive rookie of the year. He's been a two-time

pro bowler. He's just, this past year, he was an absolute stud. I got Drake made it too because he was QB3 in that class, right? He almost won the MVP. You got the, yeah, you got the, you got the third quarterback in your draft, and you got a potential MVP caliber quarterback who brought his team to a Super Bowl this past season. Right. So the value there for him, look, the top four guys, like I thought about it with Jackson Smith and Jaybo, who I have at number four, you have a number four. You have a number two. I could put him anywhere within the top four, to be honest. He's one of the best offensive players in the entire league. He's phenomenal. You got him at number 20. Jared Verse, I have at number three. I mean, Jared Verse, his first two years in the league, he's been top

10 in pressure as both years. He's played two years in the league. He's been top 10 in the league in pressures both years. And you got him at 19. Insane value. So I think that's really what goes into this in the top five for me. You got Brock Bowers at 13. Brock Bowers is, already a top three tight end in the NFL. And you got him at number 13 in his class. Jade and I have at number six. Unbelievable rookie season. Injured last

year. But I put so much more weight into that rookie season, especially because it was the first that we saw of him. I think he's going to have a huge bounce back year. And again, you got him as QB2 in that draft. Quinae Mitchell and Christian Gonzalez, I got them at 7 and 8. To get those two guys at 22 and 17, I mean, they're two of the

best five corners in the entire league. And you got them be outside of the top 15. And then Bejohn Robinson and Jemir Gibbs. I think we could probably flip those just because you got Jemir Gibbs at 12 and Bejohn Robinson, you got at 8. But both of these dudes, unbelievable offensive weapons.

They help out not only the run game, not only are the phenomenal rushers, but they also help out the passing game so much. They can get all sorts of targets and catches. They could rack up the yards. Bejon has impacted the passing game a little bit more than gives, so I think that's why initially that I had him at 9 because he impacts the passing game a little bit more.

but both of those guys are just two of the best athletes in the entire league, best of their position in the entire league, true offensive weapons out of the backfield type of players. But yeah, there we go. That's my top 10. Really fun exercise. Genuinely enjoyed sitting down to put it together because admittedly, there was a handful of players that I had to catch up on tapewise from last year,

where I was like, ah, this guy might have been on a bad team. And, you know, he didn't get a lot of noise. What does he look like as a player? And then the fact is that it's not just like, is this the best player? Okay, he's number one. No, the value of the pick and the maneuvering to get the player or, you know, what that player does for their team in that spot. So it was just a really, really good exercise to kind of keep yourself current on the three previous drafts of the NFL. Somebody said that Conner's list clears, but little do they know that I've already changed my profile picture on Discord and my name to be Connor Rogers.

So that's actually me. Hey, how's the betting journey, man? Oh, this is a lot of fun. I see a lot of people in the comments saying that this was a lot of fun as well to listen to. And it was so honestly, this was a suggestion from the chef because the chef has been throwing out a lot of different topic ideas for summer content specifically. And we thought this one was a ton of fun. And man, it was. It was a ton of fun to put together because it is so subjective.

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