NFL Stock Exchange: An NFL Draft Podcast - Ranking EVERY Big 2027 NFL Draft Prospect
Episode Date: August 31, 2026Trevor Sikkema and Connor Rogers give you their top 50 big boards for this historic 2027 NFL Draft class. You'll see many players we haven't talked about yet on the show. A huge thanks to our sponsor,... Franchise Football League, for supporting today's show! Download the app or play on the web! https://www.franchiseleaguefootball.com/ Save 50% on Franchise League Football with code 'MBFL'! Supporting them supports us. Thanks guys! :) Here's more about Franchise Fantasy League: Everything You Hate About Fantasy Football, Fixed. You won your league last year. Congrats. Then August rolled around and... you started completely over. New draft, new roster, none of what you built survives. Where's the reward for all that work? Every fan has screamed at their team's GM at least once - bad contract, botched pick, letting the wrong guy walk. You've thought it: I could do that better. Franchise League Football is where you get to prove it. It's a contract-based keeper platform with a real salary cap. You inherit a franchise with existing contracts from day one - evaluating deals, hunting waiver-wire bargains, deciding who stays and who hits free agency. Blind-bid auctions set salaries. Multi-year contracts carry real weight. You can even draft college players before they declare, stashing future stars on minimum deals. Add automatic injury substitution, round robin playoffs, and weekly giveaways for high scores, and it's clear why FSGA named it Best Startup Product Experience. Built by MIT engineers. Rewards decision-making, not the luck of a random draft order. Use code MBFL50 to save 50%. Get started at FranchiseLeagueFootball.com or download the app. Huge thanks to Amazon Fire TV Stick for supporting today's show as well! Keep up with highlights and game recaps on Fire TV including the latest from Fantasy Life. Watch instantly with no downloads, or sign-ups, or fees, free on Fire TV. Subscribe and help us get to 75k subs link to subscribe here -> https://www.youtube.com/@NFLStockExchange! It's 100% free and helps us out a bunch. Thanks! WE HAVE A DISCORD!!!!! JOIN HERE! https://discord.gg/AjqamEUyEWhttps://discord.gg/AjqamEUyEW?feature=description if the link doesn't work for you, just search 'NFLStockExchange' on discord and it'll pop up timestamps: 0:00 Intro 5:07 1-10 / Football Talk Starts Here 22:14 11-20 37:53 Sponsor: Franchise Fantasy League 39:33 21-30 51:34 31-40 57:58 Sponsor: Amazon Fire TV Can's Miss Prospect Chris Cole 1:01:23 31-40 pt. 2 1:06:32 41-50 1:16:53 Honorable Mentions 1:19:05 Outro Follow us on X:https://x.com/NFLSEshowhttps://x.com/TampaBayTrehttps://x.com/ConnorJRogers We appreciate each and every one of you ADDICTS :) For business or other inquiries, reach us at nflseshow@gmail.com Hosted by Simplecast, an AdsWizz company. See pcm.adswizz.com for information about our collection and use of personal data for advertising.
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Let's reveal five through eight here.
Bang, bang.
What's wrong?
You got Jordan Seaton at six?
Yeah.
If you watched the man move?
Yeah, I wish he could run block, but sure.
If we were playing three on three basketball, he'd be my number one offensive tackle.
Well, guess what, buddy?
Reveal the list.
He's pressing the whole button.
I'm blowing up the whole show.
Do it.
Jordan Seaton's at one for me.
Oh my God.
The NFL Stock Exchange.
Podcast, Trevor Sikkimand, Connor Rogers.
with you, not with a summer scouting ranking episode, but with a summer scouting conclusion
episode. Today, we're revealing our top 50 going into the season, which Gerald doesn't
count, for the 2027 NFL draft. Just like every ranking episode, I have no idea what's on
Conner's list. He has no idea what is on mine. So it is bound to be a show where we freak out
about where these players are ranked in each of our top 50s. Connor, how you doing, my friend?
did you hit me with a buddy in that cold open?
Did I?
I don't know if I didn't notice it during the actual show.
Oh, in the cold open, yes, because I, when you had Jordan Seaton at six and I had him
at one, I had to, I had to retaliate in some way.
I could not let that stand.
So I did hit you with a little bit of a buddy there.
You buddyed me.
That's like, those are insane fighting words on the show.
You're just a couple layers above small friar squirt.
You're right.
I think there is, I think there is a small barrier between, you know, getting to small fry or, uh,
champ is worse, right?
I can't call it bad.
Champs.
Champ is like, I'm sorry, champ.
I feel like the rankings are, uh, in, in, in order of least insulting to most insulting.
My friend, because most of the time, you're, you're sort of saying like, hey, my friend.
or whatever.
You're being nice about it,
but sometimes you can put a little bit of attitude in there.
So I feel like it's like my friend,
pal,
buddy,
champ,
and then basically all of the insults
to the chat throws out us every single week.
Chief is not great.
Yeah, Chief.
Well, I mean,
Chief is basically,
there's no,
there's no redeeming chief.
Drop the gloves immediately.
Yeah,
I'm not going to lie.
My friend actually like pisses me off a little more.
That's worse?
because in New York it's overuse
like people keep saying it
I think to try to keep the piece and you're just like
all right
I'm not your friend
just like when people say bro and they say I'm not your bro
if you're not my friend
don't say my friend
I'd rather you just
just throw champ out there and get it over with
yeah they honestly could be
we got Uncle Phil's saying
fella
fella there's not a ton
there's not a lot coming back from from fella
like you know
you know some harsh words are probably coming after fella in the sentences that follow if not
if not physical violence right i feel like uh for our overseas listeners bloke is got to be on
this somewhere you know it's not really in my uh in my repertoire so i can't chat get involved
yeah i can't i can't i can't say oh there's a south park reference i'm not your pal friend there we
go there it was i was waiting for
how long we were going to get to this point.
By the way, Shady, at the very top of the chat said,
first live show. Shout out to Shady,
joining the live show. Shout it to everybody who joined
this live show. It's going to be fun. Yeah, shout
up to shouting out, actually.
Which is probably what we're going to do a lot here
on this show, as we're going to reveal both of our top 50s
that we have for the 2020 Senate of an NFL draft.
We felt like actually, in years past,
Connor, we've gone from 50 to 1.
But in doing some
self-scouting, mainly our producer,
the chef telling us how it's going to be, as he can do, said we should start from the top.
We know who the good players are.
Let's gush about the top players that we know are probably going to be in the top 10, top 15.
Maybe we have some surprises.
But then we're getting really into sort of those my guy categories that we've got throughout the show.
And when we get, I think, closer to like the 30s, the 40s getting into pick number 50 here.
We're also going to have a couple of badges with these prospects to say like, hey, this is the player that we're sort of,
Again, planting our flag on, some guys that we think are really on the rise in this group,
somebody that we're all in on, somebody who really surprised us throughout summer scouting.
So without being said, I feel like we should pull up the list here.
We, uh, we going all at once.
I think we are going.
I think that's how we do it here.
I think that's how we're doing it now.
So here we go.
For audio only, I'll try to be as friendly to the audio only people as possible here.
We'll reveal the list.
Are there any big standouts?
Okay, no, it's pretty status quo here.
Connor, I'll have you read off your 1 through 10 first.
So one for me, Jeremiah Smith,
I think that's going to be a pretty common number one player in the draft for a lot of people,
the superstar wide receiver from Ohio State.
Number two, got my all-in badge.
I thought about getting kind of cheeky, like kind of cute with the all-in badge,
and then I was like, what are you doing?
This is the badge that you're supposed to,
You're not supposed to get cute with this.
Sure.
Like the good player, dummy, which I love your all-in badge.
I'm really glad we're going to talk about the safeties and linebackers today because we didn't do that this summer scouting.
I won't spoil that, though, for the audio listener.
So Leonard Moore gets my all-in badge as my number two overall player in the draft.
He is as good of a corner prospect as I have seen in quite some time.
Number three is Colin Simmons, the pass-rusher from Texas.
Number four is Dylan Stewart, the pass-rusher from South Carolina.
number five, the first quarterback for me, Arch Manning,
but you will quickly hear about a lot more quarterbacks clustered in this.
Six, Cam Coleman is wide receiver now at Texas.
Seven, Will Eccles, the defensive lineman from Ole Miss.
Eight, another quarterback in C.J. Carr from Notre Dame,
followed by Dante Moore at nine, another quarterback at Oregon,
and a guy that probably could have been the number two overall pick in last year's draft.
And then 10 is where I really, really struggled,
and I went with Trevor Goosby, the tackle from Texas.
Yeah, so just to touch on something that you mentioned there while you were reading off your top 10
because I saw somebody in the chat about this as well.
They're like, damn, a top 50 with no linebackers.
So Connor and I, we did not have the time to do specific summer scouting linebacker
and safety episodes, but we did watch those positions for this.
So funny enough, I think a lot of years, Connor, we sometimes skip linebacker and safety
because it's not super strong of a group.
There are multiple safeties and there are multiple linebackers.
that I have here in my top 50.
So we will talk about those.
It did make me go like, damn, like these were, you know,
I'm not going to pretend that the group was insanely deep
or that I got deep enough on those groups
as we did the other groups.
When I watched the top of those classes,
I was like, I'm going to have a couple of these players,
not only in my top 50, but in my top 20 and 30.
Yep.
So this is the perfect format for us to talk about them today.
So my top 10, because you just read yours.
I have Dylan Stewart, the edge rush from South Carolina,
at number one.
Way to stick to your guns there.
I'm glad, you know, when you evaluated him, you're like, this is one of the highest grades
of ever given out.
Yep.
I like that you're, you're really digging your feet in here on this one.
And for anybody that missed the Edge Rush or episode, we'll talk about, um, Peter just
said, haven't Jeremiah Smith above Deshawn love is crazy work?
Dejan love.
Anybody is on TikTok right now on the beach?
I mean, we should have snuck.
You know what?
I should have snuck Dejaun Love in here.
Just for the piece.
people.
Man, everybody's getting there.
Dejan love jokes off right now.
So I got Dylan Stewart,
the address from South Carolina at number one.
Jeremiah Smith,
the wide receiver from Ohio State at two,
Leonard Moore,
corner from Notre Dame at three.
Archmanning, I have him at number four.
Camp Coleman at number five.
Colin Simmons at number six.
So a little Texas Longhorn trio
we got there at four, five, and six.
I have Jordan Seton because he's a good football player.
At number seven.
I have KJ. Bolden,
the safety from Georgia at number eight.
He has my all.
all in badge, the player.
Oh, man.
I am all in on his teammate, Ellis Robinson
the fourth.
I have him at number nine, right behind him.
And then I got Dante Moore at number 10.
Let's touch on the quarterbacks really quickly.
We both have Dante Moore and Arch Manning in our top 10.
You have CJ Carr at number eight.
I don't have CJ Carr in my top 50,
but I think when we went through the quarterback episode,
very clearly,
just because of how young CJ Car is,
you can kind of view him through two very different lenses.
I listen to a lot of people that go, no, no, no,
C.J. Carr is the next, like, real deal.
And there's a lot of people that think that Notre Dame can win or will win the
national championship this year.
If you're doing that, obviously, C.J. Carr is going to be a big reason why.
I think that he has all the tools, but there's certainly, you know,
how he is processing things, the speed in which he goes through his progression,
sticking in the pocket rather than, you know, scrambling and escaping.
There are certainly a lot of things that I think that he needs to take a step forward on this year.
but even when we talked about him for quarterback summer scouting,
you were sort of viewing him as like,
this is sort of how I believe this prospect can be.
And with that being said,
I can understand you have him in his top 10.
Obviously, still rich for me because I don't have him in my top 50.
Yeah.
But there are things to believe in with CJ Carr.
So we have two quarterbacks in Dante Moore and Archmanning in our top tens.
That is similar.
But then you have CJ Carr as well.
Yeah, I really like Carr as a pocket passer.
I like his arm, his accuracy, his touch, timing.
If you want to hear more on all these quarterbacks,
check out our summer scouting quarterback episode
because we went in depth on all of these guys.
And like you said, Trevor,
that's not where a lot of the surprises
are going to be on these boards,
I think, especially at the top,
where in that show we stated who we think are the top guys.
You know, Bolden, I love to see him in your top 10.
I thought I was high on him,
and I think he's going to be in my next slide.
It really, really impressive player
in terms of just the versatility.
He gives you on the back end,
but his nose for the ball up front,
especially he's going to get bigger and stronger,
which is really the only thing I want to see him work on.
I'm trying to think what else up here might, you know.
I can talk a little bit more about KJ if you want to think about.
Yeah, since he's your all in, I would love to hear you break him down.
But, you know, he was one of a couple safeties I watch.
And it was a no-brainer, not only first round player on the preseason board,
but top 20 kind of guy.
Yeah, so he's a true junior.
So he's draft eligible for the first time this year.
6'1.95 is what he's listed at.
Now that's smaller for an NFL safety, 34 percent down height.
12th percentile in weight.
But you mentioned he could get a little bit bigger as well.
He's a former five-star safety.
He played wide receiver and DB when he was in high school.
He also ran track.
Did he do the triple jump?
Yeah, he did the triple jump as well.
He was third in states in the triple jump.
10, 7, 6, and 100 meter dash.
I mean, that is, that's pretty damn fast,
especially for a high schooler.
I think that the way he plays the game is,
to a T the way that Kirby Smart wants his defensive players to play.
And that is fast, tenacious, but also in control and fundamentally sound.
And I think every defensive coordinator and every defensive coach would say that about their players.
They want them to play with sort of that as a baseline.
But it's a lot harder to do than it is to say.
But KJ. Bolden, I think absolutely does it.
He is fast, but he is discipline.
He has the speed to really be able to cut running back.
or quick crossers, dig routes, drag routes, excuse me, off.
You know, when you get the ball in the hands of these guys and they got momentum and they're,
going from the middle of the field, up the field, up the sideline.
K.J. Bolden can meet you there at the angle.
Then he can really stop that yards after catchability, even from a single high alignment.
He's light on the scale, but he certainly is not to contact.
I think that he's really good as a tackler.
I think that he could play basically any safety ask that you want him to play.
He can play in single high.
So that's what stood out to me.
He could play in quarters and you could play in too high.
You could have him as a middle of the field.
You know, rat defender, as they say, just hunting over the middle of the field.
Already super impressive football IQ, despite being an underclassman.
A lot of the ways that we talk about Caleb Downs last year, you're going to say a lot of the similar things about KJ Bolden.
And so to me, this is another player who I think can get drafted once again in the top 20 at this position.
Yeah, man.
It's that versatility you brought up is what, like,
when you turn on the tape and you watch a couple of games or whatever,
and you just see the nose he has for the ball and how involved he is and how smart he is.
And you look at the frame and you're like,
and I think his spring weight might have been like 190,
but it's like he's going to get up to 200, 200 plus.
I don't worry about that.
He's a young player.
Plays fast,
but the versatility with the alignments,
like when you watch safeties and you try to distinguish what makes a safety,
a first round caliber safety or a top four.
kind of pick, your ability to play in those different alignments and play at a high level,
why not really giving up much against the run, but being a plus in coverage, I think those guys,
there's only going to be a bigger premium placed on them going forward.
Yeah, Peter says, so he's a top five player in the class if he's compared to downs.
I think that if you wanted to argue KJ Bolden being a top five player, I could hear it.
I think the big difference is this class is better than last year's class.
and when you have Dylan Stewart and Jeremiah Smith and Leonard Moore in this class,
I mean, Colin Simmons, a lot of people put him in that same category as well.
There's four out of the top five.
And like, yeah, I think that obviously I have KJ. Bolden at number eight.
So then right after that is sort of when we're getting into the KJ.
Bolden talk.
But I think that this class overall has higher talent at the top.
That might be why you would see KJ. Bolden a little bit lower.
I'll touch on Dylan Stewart really quickly as well before.
I think there's probably another player that you wanted to highlight on your list.
I have Dylan Stewart number one overall because he has the highest ceiling of any player in this class.
And I don't say that very lightly.
This is the class that Scott Leonard Moore that has Jeremiah Smith, that has Colin Simmons, that has Archmanning.
These are incredible football players.
I think Dylan Stewart's rare.
I really do believe that the build, the Twitch, the bend, the overall athleticism.
I think that it's truly, truly special stuff.
I think Dylan Stewart has the ability to be the best defensive player in the NFL someday.
Now, he's a long way from getting there.
I'm not saying you plop him down in the league.
You're not worrying about anything.
I think that his stats in production are question marks in and of itself.
And there are things that go into that, right?
Being the finisher that he needs to be.
And then also durability with him not being on the field at 100% or close to 100% as much as you would want.
But when he is fully healthy,
and when we see Dylan Stewart at his best,
I see a player that has the ability
to be unblockable or command multiple blocks
every single play.
There are so few offensive tackles,
even the most gifted ones,
that have the ability athletically
to be able to slow him down.
You can slow him down with really great technique,
like I know that the best in the NFL can,
but I think that if Dylan Stewart
ups his technique over the next couple of years,
he also is going to get his
against some of the best in the NFL.
So this does definitely a ceiling
type of a projection for me.
I just,
this kind of player
with this kind of ceiling
does not come around very often.
And so I had to stick to my guns,
as you said,
and keep him at number one overall
going into the year.
Yeah, I definitely like Colin Simmons
better today,
but Stewart's still in my top five
because his tools are pretty rare,
and you're just a season away
from totally tapping into those tools,
and then he's a top five pick.
It's just, it's freakish kind of stuff.
But, you know,
I just feel better
today about Smith, Leonard
Moore, and Colin Simmons, and
I think talking about these
groups, like, this class
has some blue chip talent at the top going
into the season, and we know blue chip talent
reveals itself or evolves
throughout the final college season. So
for this to be our foundation or our baseline
is a really, really good
place to be. I mean, that's
why I think this is a strong draft. And I think
when we get to the 11 through 20
and even the top 30s,
that's when it kind of revealed itself too, because
there's some strength of the safety and linebacker position that we didn't necessarily
break down throughout the summer too.
Last thing before we move on to our next group of 10,
chasing the chat saying,
I don't get the archmanning hype at all.
So I have Archmanning a four,
you have Archmanning at five,
both of us have him as QB1.
I think that the archmanning narrative perception,
I think whichever word is better for this situation,
was shaped a lot about how he was talked about going in
to last year. And,
Connor, I'm sure you've gotten asked this question a lot.
People go, well, if his last name was Jones, right?
Like, I mean, will we think about him the way that we think about it?
Would he be this QB1?
Would he be this, you know, first round type of a quarterback?
It was Arch Jones instead of Arch Manning.
And I think that it's a valuable question to ask because of how long we've been talking
about him and how the Manning name is truly royalty in the sport.
the way that I would answer that, and I'm curious what you think as well, is I don't think he would have
had the hype going into last season if his last name was not Manning.
Was he still a good quarterback, a talented quarterback?
Yes.
Would we have talked about him as a future number one overall?
No.
I think that that, the cart was before the horse with that.
But today, if his last name was Jones today, I'd still have him.
as a first round quarterback in QB1.
I think he showed enough in the second half of last season to go,
okay, here we go.
Now we're cooking with something.
Now this is a player who has legit NFL size,
a really good NFL arm,
sees defense's pre and post snap and learned a lot throughout that first year
of him being a full-time starter,
has the legit mobility to him as well.
I've talked about how I don't love the way that his throwing motion
is kind of constructed currently.
But he makes it work in a lot of instances
that's sort of within 50.
yards. He is making that work. The ball placement went up. The anticipation went up.
His tape at the second half of last year was good enough for him to be considered the prospect
that he is being considered right now going into the 2026 season. That's how I would answer
the Arch Manning last name conversation. But any thoughts there on that?
I also think it goes both ways, right? Where Arch the second he ever stepped onto the field
at the college level, forget college, go to high school.
If he's not perfect, the criticism is going to be louder and bigger, right?
Think about how his entire season was dictated when they lost to Ohio State.
There is not saying us or even anyone watching this video,
but it felt like there was a lot of people that really had no interest in taking him seriously
as a high-end quarterback after that game.
And he had a lot of high-end games.
So I think it goes both ways.
I really does.
Neither of us have Arch as the top player in this draft.
We haven't as the top quarterback, but we're open to the conversation.
I mean, I have two other quarterbacks in my top 10 with him in C.J. Carr and Dante
Moore, I think that let's let him develop as a quarterback, right?
Like we are trying or begging for all these other guys to get to do.
Like Fernando Mendoza, right?
Look at what he was after his career at Cal.
he was not a first round quarterback he took 40 sacks that final year at cal he had a lot of traits he
had a good arm he's got a big body he's obviously a very smart guy but he developed at indiana
into being the first overall pick and credit to him he won big games he took less sacks he became
a better processor so i think it goes both ways with arch that yeah we do the well and also is
texas giving out charity like oh he's a manning so since he's a manning so he's a manning he's a man
we want him as our quarterback. No, Texas wants good football players. This is a high-hand football program.
So I find that a little ridiculous, and I'm not even the person sitting here. I don't think
Arch is as good as some of the general public or talking heads want you to believe. I think he's a
promising developing quarterback on a trajectory that I'm bullish on right now. And now he's going,
we're going to talk about his teammates today. He's going to be throwing to Cam Coleman.
and Trevor Goosby is on his offensive line.
And they have other past catchers as well.
And let's see if he elevates his game.
But we evaluate tools on this show.
He's got good size, good athleticism.
There's been plenty of flashes of being able to throw a really good deep ball.
And there's a lot of promising things we broke down on the quarterback show where I don't agree with that narrative that it's because of his last name.
And I do think it works both for him and against him.
So it evens out.
Yeah, Drake in the chat saying currently, and he emphasizes again,
in all caps currently has Darian Mensa over Arch Manning, which I think is a good segue
into the next 10 that we have here in which I think I have Darian Mensa. Do I have my
Jerry and Mentson? Okay.
Ten? Maybe he's further down the list. Oh, no, he's not in this next 10. He's in the 10
after that. Okay. So that should have been a good segue, Drake, but it'll be a good segue
going into the next 10. You got to wait a little longer. Connor, go ahead and read your 11 through 20
here, top prospects for the 2027 draft.
11 for me,
the first Miami defensive line,
Ahmad Moin.
Hold on.
Hold on.
Do you see our list right now?
Yes.
They are shockingly similar.
We have,
in a lot of ways,
especially at the top.
You have Moten at 11,
and you have Justice Scott at 13.
I have Justice Scott at 11,
and I have Moten at 13.
The Miami duo cannot get,
they cannot escape themselves.
No.
And that's a warning to everyone.
everybody, if you're playing Miami this year,
how many times do you have two defensive tackles
that could be top 15 picks in the same draft?
It is.
And so 12 is David Stone,
another defensive tackle at Oklahoma.
But then 13, like you said,
Trevor's Justin Scott,
the defensive tackle at Miami that has more upside
than his teammate Moten,
but I think Moten's the better player today.
14, your boy, you're all in badge, KJ Bolden.
I haven't met 14.
I'm with you.
I think he's a great player.
15.
Drew Mestemaker
quarterback who I mean
we're going to see which way this thing goes
because we could be talking about
Messamaker after a year at Oklahoma State
being a top five pick in this draft
we could also talk about him needing another year
of kind of development.
It's going to be fascinating.
16, a guy we did not talk about
because we didn't do linebackers during summer scouting.
Sammy Brown,
linebacker at Clemson.
I mean, whoa.
The linebacker class with him at the top
is a fun watch.
17, Jaden Ball.
If you watch the running back show,
you know how much we like the top of the running back class.
18, one of my favorites in this draft, KJ. Duff,
the wide receiver from Rutgers.
He really is their version of Nico Collins,
65-225.
19, another wide receiver that's so easy to love.
That's Charlie Becker,
size and speed wide receiver at Indiana,
that is a better route runner that he gets credit for.
And with a bigger workload,
he's going to really be able to shine,
I think, as a first round player this year.
And then 20,
Ellis Robinson the corner from Georgia.
So I have Justice Scott, the defensive tackle at Miami at 11.
I have Charlie Becker at 12.
I think Becker is just stud, man.
I think he's a major difference making wide receiver.
Ahmad Maudin, as we already talked about,
the other defense tackle from Miami.
I have him at 13.
I have Tay Johnson, the safety from Notre Dame at number 14.
I told you guys we get linebackers and safeties in here.
I got him at 14.
Jaden Baugh, the running back from Florida.
You have him at 17.
I have a minute 15.
There we go.
Kelly Jones, the corner from Mississippi State.
I've got him at 16.
And I'll talk a little bit more about him in a second.
Kiwan Lacey, the running back from Ole Miss,
17.
Amari Washington, the defense tackle from Oregon at 18.
Nick Marsh, the wide receiver from Indiana at number 19s,
to Indiana wide receivers in the top 20
just after having Elijah Surat and Omar Cooper, Jr.,
get drafted last year.
And then I have Nikki Prongos,
the offensive tackle from Stanford at number 20.
I'm just, I'm a really huge fan of this.
I think he's got a ton of versatility.
I think he's rock solid.
I think he's got the build for the NFL.
I'm a big Nicky Prongos fan.
So this is me certainly believing in
and putting him at the tail end of the top 20.
But let's talk about Kelly Jones really quick.
Do you have Jones in your top 50?
Hell yeah, I do.
Okay.
Kelly Jones, I think is in my next group.
We're really close to it.
Let me find him.
I swear I know how to work a spreadsheet.
Kelly Jones is 31 for me.
Okay.
So Jones, I have him at 16.
We talked about him in the cornerback episode.
Outside of Leonard Moore, could make a strong case.
He's the best cover corner in the class.
6 foot 4, 195 pounds.
We talked about this again in the Summer Scouting Cornerback episode.
This is not typically the build of corner that I like.
A lot of times when you get these corners that are supersized,
6, 3, 6.4, even some guys that are 6.2
and they just have a longer body and a longer frame to them,
it's really difficult for them to turn and change direction.
When you're playing corner, that's what you have to do.
You have to be really fluid.
You have to be very agile and explosive.
And a lot of times, it's just hard for those bigger, longer corners to do it.
It ain't that hard for Kelly Jones while he does still have that length and that size to him.
He is an explosive player.
He played quarterback when he was in high school, along with playing defensive back.
He was a starter for all 13 games last year.
I think he has a fiery competitor.
I think he has oily hips as the scouts would say for his.
size very light on his feet very springy of an athlete run defense all right it's a little hot and
cold you know with him having the longer leaner body frame that he has but he the tall leaners
is tough because of the transitions and the builds they are just it's so rare for them to be good
run defender sauce had this problem right yeah it's it it's it's and sauce still goes and sauce still goes
top five because run you cover
Run defense obviously is an important part of playing any position on the defense,
but certainly you don't want to be this run defense liability on the outside because teams
are just going to target you, they're going to run towards you, all that kinds of stuff.
But if you can cover the way that Kelly Jones covers, sometimes that's just what matters most
as the Trump card.
And like that's sort of why I have him at 16, not because he's the perfect quarterback prospect,
but because he's a damn good one when it comes to his job and his assignment.
So for man coverage defenses, Kelly Jones, I think he's going to be a lot of fun.
I think he's going to be good in the league.
Man, he's just so unique to watch because it's so hard to gain a lot of ground on him.
And even when he's not completely ready for the ball, he's got such great length that he's such a disruptor at the catch point.
Brock with a really good point saying if you're a true boundary corner, you can deal with it,
it being, you know, some run defense inefficiencies.
Great point.
You can't deal with it at nether.
nickel. And I totally agree with Brock. We completely agree with Brock. We've talked about that here
when we've broken down cornerback prospects. When you get kicked inside to the nickel in the slot,
it's not just, oh, you're the team's third best corner. You're close to the line of scrimmage.
You have to be a part of our defense. You have to be able to tackle. Yeah, man. It's,
we really were like both looking at each other in the corner episode like, this guy's awesome.
And he doesn't really get a lot of hype. And it's translated to the big boards.
Yeah, my wife had to bully me into rewatching him with a new perspective,
and she knows ball like a side of the corner episode.
Great comment, though, from Brock, especially about we're going to talk about some players
that might fit the nickel and be stronger tacklers.
So who you shout now?
Who do you want to shout out here?
Oh, in this group.
Well, I should talk about Sammy Brown a little bit because we didn't do linebackers.
Sammy Brown, the linebacker at Clemson, I mean, the nature of his game is just the speed.
First of all, first of all, look at the picture.
Look at the picture on the Clems?
The chin thickness and neck thickness?
I mean, that's a first round.
That's an NFL linebacker, baby.
It really, really is.
He is, you know,
what you look for in a modern day linebacker,
not only the chin and neck thickness,
but the fact that he's 6-2-235,
and that's a real height and weight, by the way.
As far as I can, you know,
as far as I can get to the bottom of,
he's played a lot of football already
for a true junior.
He's played a ton of football the last two years, and he's stuffed the stat sheet.
I mean, he's had double-digit tackles for loss in both of those seasons.
You see him in the backfield all the time.
He has the combo to me of the high-end pre-snap awareness with the modern-day athleticism.
And that's what makes the really, really, it's unique to be a top 40 pick at off-ball linebacker in this era.
And guys do it.
but they're usually absolute freaks.
They're going to run 4-5 or sub-4-5,
and I think he will.
Honestly, I think we're talking about that level of speed,
like 4-5 kind of wheels.
I think he's really smart.
I love how in control he plays.
His balance and ability to come to balance
and the grip strength as a tackler
is really, really high-end.
So I think he'll make more plays in coverage this year
just because he'll be more comfortable in year three,
and you could see the coverage production,
and the box score's gone up, but I also think on tape it'll improve as well.
So Sammy Brown, and he's not the only linebacker on my top 50.
He's actually one of three, but he was the one that I went, man, the modern day NFL is
going to love this guy.
Dude, he's got 19 starts already, and he's just, he's a true junior.
That's just insanely impressive that you have that many starts.
A.C. Rubin in the chat is saying when I was in undergrad, I was, uh, in undergrad, I
worked with the UGA football team helping do the water at practice.
We were recruiting Sammy Brown hard.
The only recruit I saw come to 5 a.m.
Winter workouts just to watch.
He is a dude.
I think he was a 5 star.
Oh, you better believe he was a 5 star.
Yes.
So this is real.
His background is extremely impressive.
So he was a 5 star linebacker.
He played running back and linebacker in high school.
Multi-sport athlete.
not just track, wrestling, baby.
Of course.
There's the grip strength right there.
State championship wrestler in the 220-pound division as a sophomore.
Yep.
And then he won the state championship as an 11th grader in the 285 weight class.
I don't know if you guys heard.
It has to be 185.
He was wrestling in the 285 weight class in high school.
Pretty sure I just copy and pasted this.
from either right or like 247 or on three.
I didn't write this.
Wrestling.com.
Check.
All right.
You double check there.
But won a state championship in the 185,
sorry, 285 pound weight class is what I have written down.
Very curious if that actually is the case.
I don't think he would have gone down to 185 as a junior though.
I think he was just taking down.
behemates.
That makes it even better.
Like total David versus Goliath type of somebody, the chat's saying that there's no
285 in, I was going to say, what's the biggest weight class in high school?
And I was wondering if it depends where you're from.
Like obviously smaller sections are not going to have these crazy weight classes.
Still lost in between said in all caps, he went one on one with the Undertaker.
Essentially, every week.
And then won the state championship.
235 would make more sense.
That makes a lot more sense.
But I'm just, again, I'm going off of what's...
He was really freaking good, and he's a really freaking good linebacker.
Two-time state champion in wrestling, regardless of weight class.
He won state championship in the 400-meter dash, was fourth in the long jump,
six in the 100 meter, 11th in the 200 meter, ran a 1070, 100-meter.
ran a 1070
100 meter dash.
Guys,
a freak athlete.
That's all I got to say.
Just an absolute freak athlete.
He was in Feldman's freaks this year.
Feldman says the 6'5-2-335-5thum linebacker is really strong,
squatting 600 pounds, benching 385.
Jesus.
Broad jumping 10 feet, 7 inches and vertical jumping 38 inches.
He ran a blazing 4-4-1-40-yard dash.
Yeah, he's going to fly.
He's going to be a pretty good player.
I like Ethan in the chat saying, so we found the new McPounder.
Yeah, Sammy McPounder.
Yeah, yeah.
Sammy McPounder, honestly.
Yeah, this guy rules.
Okay.
That's why he's in my top 20.
Did I, no, we're good.
Keep going.
Who do you want to talk about?
You know, Tate Johnson we haven't talked about.
Oh, yeah, I got to talk about Tate Johnson.
He's in my next group.
He's 26 for me.
So Tay Johnson, a red shirt sophomore this year from Notre Dame.
He is 6'5th-2-200 pounds.
It's just 85th percentile, 24th percentile for the safety position in the league.
He's a former three-star safety.
So it wasn't a super high recruiter.
I think some places might have had him as a four-star,
but on three, I go by on three because I try to keep it consistent.
Had him as a three-star safety.
He mainly played wide receiver in high school.
He played DB, but he had over 2,000 career receiving yards and 41 receiving touchdown.
Also, a standout basketball player.
I got the stats.
You want the stats?
Oh, let's go.
We got the stats.
Because I got the stats.
Scored 1,180 career points, grabbed 487 rebounds, had 305 assists, 175 steals, and 54 blocked shots.
This is a certified ball at ladies and gentlemen.
Yeah, we usually like, the stats are usually like 6.3 points, four rebounds.
Yeah.
This guy was scoring.
Yeah.
Tay Johnson's a legit multi-sport athlete.
He redshirted his first year, played in 10 games with eight starts, missed the rest due to a broken hand in 2025.
Full name is actually Bronte Johnson, not just Tay Johnson.
So anybody out there who's like Googling and you can't find who Tay Johnson is.
Bronte Johnson is his full name.
The multi-sport background, Connor, is what shows up on the field immediately.
I mean, I'm three plays into his tape and I go, okay, yep, I see it.
I see that you played wide receiver in high school.
I see that you played basketball in high school.
And not just at a low level, like a high accomplishment type of level at both of those things,
as well as now playing safety.
Notre Dame aligns him in a single high position all the time because they have full faith
that he's going to be able to read the quarterback, read the space,
and just understand where the football is going and then have the athleticism to make the play from deep coverage.
It plays a little bit light just because he's got a more slender build to him.
but really good range, not just as a coverage player,
but also as a run defender as well.
Excellent, excellent middle of the field type of player,
whether it comes to, you know, covering post routes, seam routes,
crossers that are going over the middle.
I think he's a very, very impactful player
and a great athlete for the NFL level.
Reminds me a lot of kind of like what Kirby Joseph has become
from a coverage perspective with the Detroit Lions.
Now, he broke his foot in 2024.
He broke his hand in 2025.
Let's get a fully healthy season from you.
And I think that if that happens, we're talking about a first round type of a player.
Man, watching him, I was sitting there and I was like, this Notre Dame defense is potentially going to be absurd, like truly absurd with the amount of just NFL players they have on it, especially in the secondary, three across at corner.
Tay Johnson at safety.
I'm going to talk about a linebacker during this top 50 today.
So, lot to like.
Anybody else in this group?
You want hit on?
We talked in depth about the rest of these guys on their summer scouting positional shows.
I think we should move to the next group because I think there's a couple new names in there,
if I remember correctly.
I think so too.
But before we move on, we got to talk about our friends over at Franchise Fantasy League.
We had Renee on last week, which is awesome.
We had a good conversation with her really pumping up franchise league football and sort of
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The way that they set it up is,
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Cool, you win a title.
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That's no fun.
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Blind auctions will set the salaries each year for players.
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21 through 30.
Let's go.
Let's see it.
Now we're getting into that.
the my guys category. Two badges. Oh, there he is. Two badges, baby. Two badges. And we start with number 21,
who got the surprise badge. Look at you. Clive Lubin, pass rusher Louisville. I'm putting a stamp on this
one. This guy can absolutely play in wreak havoc. 22, Guan Lacey, running back. You talked about him
in your earlier group, Trevor. Definitely, he was a standout with Jaden Ball on our running back show.
were kind of been a tier of their own.
23, Austin Saraveld.
Guarded Ohio State.
He's played tackle.
I think he's going to be a guard at the next level.
I think he's a hell of a football player.
The fact that he also gives you the can play tackle for you in a pinch is a really
nice thing to have on the resume, but somebody that he's a high end interior offensive
line prospect.
24 is the Rocket Badge.
Kingston Villiamu Asa, the linebacker at Notre Dame.
Oh, dude, that was, hold on.
Wait a second.
That was mint for how you said his name for the first time.
We haven't done that on this show yet.
The trick is not to think about it.
Yeah, I'm afraid now.
I'm terrified to say it.
Now I'm going to think about it too much.
Billy Amavas, he got the rocket badge because you're talking about somebody that if he has
eight sacks this year and is also an absolute terror playing off the ball, like you'd be
like, yeah, this guy can.
be that unique three-down kind of linebacker that we could do so many different things
within the front seven.
God, the way he plays, dude, you can't miss him on the tape.
This is going back to just how good Notre Dame's defense can be.
And Trevor, I see you have him at 28, so I think you liked him just as much as me when you
got into the linebacker tape.
25, Mario Craver, the small but electric wide receiver at Texas A&M, 26, a guy you just broke
down in Tay Johnson, the safety at Notre Dame.
27, Damon Wilson, who transfers to Miami and goes into their pass rush pipeline that just turns players into gold.
I think it'll happen again, especially playing next to those defensive tackles and under their coaching staff.
28, another offball linebacker.
This is, I think, the last one on my top 50, but I had three in my top 30.
This is Chris Cole from Georgia, a player with incredible range.
29.
PJ Williams, the right tackle for SMU.
I don't really know where he's going to land as an NFL prospect,
but he's a damn good right tackle right now at SMU,
and he's gotten really comfortable at that spot,
and somebody that the tape is better than the PR he gets,
and then 30, a guy coming off injury,
but if he returns to form, John Henry Daley, the pass rusher,
now at Michigan can be a real, real problem up front.
I'm just laughing because the chat is out of control.
I knew it was going to happen.
With the Clev lubin.
I'm lubing up.
I'm about to lube up.
Here comes the lube.
It's just that you guys are insane.
Yep.
You know, I'm glad to stop me that did it.
Clevma.
If you're formal, you want to go formal full name.
Yeah, because that's the government name, right?
Klebma.
Yeah.
Him and William Helt when they go to the ACC meeting of the minds.
That's how they introduce themselves.
Clevma and William.
So I like this.
You are already, we've already got a difference of our list.
I think the differences that we had through the position rankings are really showing up already here in the top 50s.
21 for me.
I'll just read my 10 and then we'll kind of go back and forth, talk about these guys a little bit more.
21, Trevor Goosby from Texas.
I have him right around that top 20 mark.
22 for me is Trinidad Chambers.
Oh, there it is.
Dude, we talked about it in the quarterback episode.
I think he should have been in last year's class.
And if he was, I think he's a first rounder.
The way that he plays, it's just so hard to not believe in who he is with the ball in his hands.
I get it.
I think he can do so much of what you want to do.
Is he built the way that NFL quarterbacks are traditional bill?
No.
But I sure as heck, think that he can get you the results.
So I'm a big Trinidad-Chambles fan.
If you want to hear more thoughts on that, go listen to the full quarterback episode.
Sammy Brown from Clemson.
I have him in number 23.
Carter Smith from Indiana.
I have him in my top 25.
I have him in number 24.
I have him as a center.
I think that when you look at the ways in which Carter Smith either does lose or could lose against NFL caliber competition,
whether it's been in Indiana or whether it will be in the future, a lot of that has to do with the fact that he's just not really built like an NFL offensive tackle.
But I sure as heck think that like he can play a lot of those positions.
Right.
I think to me, his best strengths with the grip strength, the balance, the anchor ability,
just diagnosing how pass rushes are going to come at him, resetting his hands,
all that kinds of stuff, being a bull in the run game.
You get so much of that strength and you get so much less of the potential physical,
measurable weaknesses if you put him at the center spot.
So I think he's a center in the league.
I think he's an NFL player.
And I think a lot of people are going to say, no, no, no.
You know, I'm putting my flag in the ground with him being a tackle.
And I say that's fine.
If I'm drafting him, I'm drafting him to be a center.
And I think he's going to be a starting caliber,
potentially even a Pro Bowl, all pro type of center for you in the pro.
So that's where I got him.
I got him at 24.
Did you watch Greg Johnson?
I did.
Greg Johnson made the cut for me on this show.
Dude, I believe it.
I got him a number 25.
Do you call him the mountain?
He's a lad.
Greg Johnson.
He is where we at here.
He is 6'4.4.5.
He is a big point.
He was even taller.
That was the official that I got.
Oh, I had 6.6.5.
Maybe I'm off.
But yes, he is almost 330 pounds.
He's a four-star interior offensive line.
And he played both offensive line and defensive line in high school, which you love to see.
Connor, he has starts at every single position on the offensive line.
He played like everywhere last year.
a guard, but did play both tackle spots in a pinch.
He played center his first season as a starter.
No, actually, he played guard his freshman season.
And then he started all 13 games to center the following year.
Last year, he mainly played a guard, but he had to start at left tackle and a right
tackle.
One of them was against Ohio State.
Yeah, all right, buddy.
There you go.
Good luck.
Start at left tackle for the first time, probably since high school.
You're just going against Ohio State.
I thought he played well.
He reminded me a lot of Peter Skoronski.
Honestly, just from like he can play tackle for you if you want him to.
But you love him inside.
I just, I love him as an interior player.
And the versatility, the grip strength, the active hands, how he approaches the game,
really high football IQ type of player, great experience, a natural, natural mover,
as you would expect for somebody who has played all five spots on the offensive line.
I think this guy's a pretty rock, solid interior offensive line prospect.
So I got him at 25.
Yeah, I'm with you.
I had him in the top 50 as well.
A really nice late watch for me is, you know, we didn't do a guard show.
But we talked about a lot of tackles that will convert to guard.
He's played a little bit of everything.
Will Eccles, the defense attacker from Ole Miss.
I have him at 26.
Dary and Mensa, this is where I have Mensa at 27.
I understand people are going to say, man,
Mensa does not have the arm for the NFL.
I think it's adequate for the NFL.
Is it great or elite?
No, when it comes to overall arm strength.
But I think that he throws with touch better than,
maybe any quarterback in this class.
I think Trinidad Chambers is kind of close with him,
but I just feel as though Menta plays with so much confidence.
He can layer the football so well.
He can attack zones so efficiently because of the different clubs that he has in the bag as a passer.
And so I'm just,
I'm a big fan of Dary Mentsa,
and I think he could have a big year.
But we'll see.
I think that that's going to be a polarizing one.
Kingston.
There it is.
You can't.
You got to.
He said the lights are.
too bright.
Shut these off.
I genuinely because I don't even, I don't, I don't remember the letters in his name.
He said he's not built for this.
I'm going to say Kingston again.
He's just going to go full screen again.
I'm just going to freeze again.
Villiamu Asa is how you say it.
Yeah, you got it.
All right.
There we go.
Kingston, Villiamu, Asa.
That's going to be the cold open.
That was great ISOing by the chef.
Uh, my own show.
Hey, dude, he's awesome.
You already highlighted him a ton.
I think he's a, oh, my camera's gonna not, there it is.
What?
Only people.
Just showed a meme of a tired startled tiger.
And it just says he was not ready for this.
That was me.
That was 100% me.
Oh, yeah.
The ISO was stuff because you were trying to read the name.
I'll give you a little bit of a pass there.
But you know, we just do everything for content on this show,
including humiliation,
rituals of ourselves. You have to. You have to do it. I think the Kingston's awesome. I'm
first name basis with him. One, it's spelled phenomenally with the Y and then the two ends at the end.
It's a savage way to spell it. But you highlighted who he is an athlete. I think he's a phenomenal
athlete. Now he's coming off of an ACL tear, which is not ideal. But if he can get back to
form, he has six foot three, 230 pounds, I think he can put on more weight easily. Like I think
in the league, he could play close to 240, right around where 240 is.
I'm with you.
He went to John Boscoe High School, one of the best high school football teams in the country,
won a high school D1 National Championship,
won a state of California, state championship,
played 14 games as true freshman season,
started two games last year, but he did tear his ACL.
I think he's a super explosive player.
I think he's very fearless in the way that he plays.
I think sometimes the hit power is middling, I thought.
But the way that he takes on blocks is not.
Like his hands are heavy.
There were some of these linemen that were climbing to the second level.
And he just put his whole upper body and hands into O-Limon
and it knocked them back time and time again.
So I think the way that he takes on blocks shows good physicality as well.
I think he's a really, I think he's a great player.
And I think that if he comes off of that, that ACL and he's still the same athlete that he needs to be,
we're talking about a starting potential linebacker at the NFL level.
Without a doubt.
And one that just does so many different things, especially heading downhill for your football team.
So I loved watching him.
And then did you finish reading your list?
I don't want to cut you off.
Oh, Ashen Hampton, the corner from Clemson at 29.
And then Zach Lutmer.
the nickel corner from Iowa.
I have him in number 30.
Yeah, Hampton is a guy I actually moved up
since our corner show
because I kind of just valued
him as a total DB
where when we did the corner show,
I think I got a little too
focused in on just like man coverage,
isolated, and the way Hampton plays the position
from a versatility standpoint
is why I bumped him up over like Sabian Brown
and really I think that's it
and I have Lutmer on here as well.
Next group.
Next group.
All right.
40 or 30 through 40.
Here we go.
Bang, bang.
Oh, so this is where you got Kelly Jones.
Okay.
All right.
31, Kelly Jones.
We talked about the gigantic corner from Mississippi State.
32.
Trevor Locke, the offensive tackle, Lauk, from Iowa.
I think he's a tackle.
I think he can stick a tackle.
I know there's going to be some debate around that.
But I really, really liked his tape,
both as a pass protector and as a run blocker.
33, Yonse Pierre from Alabama.
We had a pretty strong season for Alabama
and should probably have even bigger numbers this year.
34, Ashton Hampton.
We just talked about the big corner from Clemson.
35, Trades Green,
the freakishly athletic pass catching tight end from LSU.
36, Zavian Brown, the corner from Alabama.
37, another tight end, Jamarie Johnson from Oregon.
A little bit more well-rounded than Traydez Green,
but not the same pass-catching upside.
38, there's Zach Lutmer, who you just had the corner from Iowa.
You just had at 30, I think, Trev.
I want to say?
Yes, yes.
And then 39, Tavian Gadsen, the very athletic kind of attack mode defensive lineman from Kentucky.
He'll be a little scheme specific, but he's a disruptor.
And then 40, I have Trinidad Chambliss at 40.
I'll say it.
Like, I know you talked about him a lot.
his profile has so many
alarming red flags
of what not to go for
in a quarterback prospect.
Nothing character related.
All size, lack there of, age.
I mean, there's just really a lot of things
where you're like,
this just doesn't really work in the NFL,
a very old, very small quarterback.
And when you watch the tape,
he just overcomes those limitations
and gets so much better over and over again
and shines in the biggest moments
that I still put him at 40
because I believe in this guy.
I don't know if I believe in,
taking this profile of quarterback in the first round.
I'll let somebody else do that if I was a GM.
But if you get to sit him a little bit and let him be a day two pick,
man, he's electric to watch.
And clearly the NFL maybe didn't believe in him last year,
otherwise he wouldn't have fought so hard to go back to school if he got a respectable,
draftable grade.
But I'm excited for him that he gets to play another year of college football and kind of
prove those doubters wrong because I'm, to a certain extent, I'm believing.
Yeah.
I mean, I obviously am too with him being in my top 30.
I'm a big Trinidad Chambliss guy.
I would certainly consider him in the first round.
I just think that the way that he has played off of last year,
I was very surprised that he did not come out of the draft.
And I can understand the NFL basically saying like, hey, you have one year,
you were barely at the D1 level anyways.
That could be something that could really bite us in the butt.
We're not going to be willing to give you a high draft grade because of it.
He goes back to Ole Miss and we'll see the year that he could have.
But obviously, I hope it's a great one because he's a hell of a quarterback.
And he's a lot of fun to watch.
So my 31 through 40 in this group, Anthony Smith, the edge rusher from Minnesota, I have him at number 31.
You and I kind of were at odds when we talked about him.
He was in my top five of edge defenders and he was not in your top five.
And I think that he's going to be polarizing for people because he's a massive prospect.
He's six foot six, I think, 275.
So to me, I think you just got to view him in through a different lens.
and if you see him as more of like that heavy-handed defensive end and also kick inside sort of three-four defensive end hybrid,
I think he could give you plenty of value.
And I think he showed more finesse than you would expect for a player who's 275, 280 with the hand usage and wanting to win with technique and wanting to win with some agility.
Like I saw him attempt and complete a bunch of like cross-chop moves, you know, and it's just like, okay, now you're trying to sort of he's up.
offensive tackles. You're not just trying to bull rush him, which he certainly can.
But I thought I saw more finesse in Anthony Smith's game to make me think, okay, you're not
just big, tall, long, like a brute sort of three, four defensive end type of a player.
I think there's more to you and I think there could be more impact in the NFL.
So I think I have him at 31.
Anthony Knapp, the offensive, I have him at offensive guard from Notre Dame.
And I think that's where things end up.
He was at tackle for Notre Dame over the last couple of seasons.
He's moving into guard.
I believe they're playing him at guard this season.
Jamari Johnson, this is funny.
So I have Jamari Johnson, the tight end from Oregon at 33,
and I have Tradez Green the tight end from LSU at 34.
So true cowards way out, just putting them right next to each other.
Hold on.
But I have Trades Green ahead of where you have it.
And your words to me was, did you take the cheese
when we did the tight end show on Tray Des Green?
And you have the audacity.
Dude, 35's not taking the cheese.
You have been 35, I'm in 34.
Oh, man.
I've seen people's rankings that have them like top 12.
That's the cheese.
Yeah, that's insanity.
That's that hot stinky cheddar.
That's what that is.
I'm just asking.
I think.
Mid-30.
He's going to quit.
show, folks.
Is it very appropriate.
Give me a single cam.
Go ahead.
Oh, he's asking for the ISO.
Go ahead.
Go ahead.
I think Tradez Green in the 30s of a top 50 preseason is fully respectable.
There you go.
That's all I got to say.
That's fair.
All right.
So after him, I have Trevor Loughke, the I believe offensive guard at Iowa.
It'll be interesting.
For sure.
And number 35.
Him and Caden Green are the two guys where I'm like, they got a real shot to prove to the world.
They're going to stick at tackle, but there's also an NFL world where they just like them at guard.
Sure.
Caden Piper, or Cade Piper, excuse me, his teammate, the Iowa Center.
I have him at 36.
Hell of the football player.
He's really good.
Chris Cole, I have at number 37.
And this is a player where I want to bring, I want to bring our friends at Fire TV in on this because we're doing a segment with them,
single week. They give you to can't miss games. We're giving you the can't miss prospects.
So I think that Chris Cole is one of those can't miss type of prospects. And you had him even
higher on your list. You had him in your top 30. Yeah, I love this team. Man. Here at number 37.
I think that this, I think this player could be really, really good. Now, it's a big time projection
for Chris Cole because he's a true junior going into this season. He played in 14 games
a true freshman, 14 games last year, only had one start last year.
So, obviously, a full-time starting role is going to be really, really important for him.
But he is 6'3, 235 pounds.
He looks like a terradactyl out there.
Oh, my God.
His range is insane.
He looks like engulfing.
The arm length, the speed in which he has to close on ball carriers.
I mean, it is super impressive stuff.
He ran track when he was in high school, so he's got the track background to him.
And that absolutely shows up in how he attacks the football.
He's got good eyes for run defense.
And when it comes to stacking and shedding and getting clean off blocks and making a play and making tackles,
the competitiveness for me just pops off the screen with him.
I think he is a true rising prospect.
I really do believe that.
A lot of the issues that I have with him, you know, whether it's in coverage or some run
defense reps as well. A lot of it just comes from lack of anticipation. He just hasn't started a lot.
So there's times when, yeah, he's fast to fly to the football, but he's not seen it a step or a half a
step before he needs to, and especially in coverage. I think there's a little, there's certainly a
lack of feel in coverage right now because he's got the lack of experience. But Connor, I'm glad that
you pointed him out when he was on your list even a little bit higher. And he gets my sort of rocket
ascending prospect badge because I think that he could be he could be a top 20 player when it's all
said and done if he really takes to leave this year. Yeah, and M. Cadoza in the chat said he's Sunny
styles last year. Like that's that is the rocket trajectory. It's like, oh my God, this guy is just
playing so much faster than everybody else on tape at linebacker in a really good front seven. Yep.
That he ends up being viewed as a top 15 pick and not a top 40 pick. So I agree. Yeah, it's,
He's, he's, if you guys watching, you know, didn't get to linebackers or you ever watch him,
he's just really, really different tape to watch because of how fast he plays.
Yep, there's just a ton of potential there.
So that's our sort of rising can't miss prospect there.
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38, this is where I have KJ, Duff,
the wide cheer from Rutgers.
I feel like we might,
are we the only duo
podcast duo
that's gonna have KJ Duff
unanimously in the top 40?
I hope we are
because that's a,
that's a title out with Bradley.
Yeah,
maybe.
I'm a little confused
what people don't see
in KJ Duff,
to be honest with you.
He is so physically dominant.
Max and Dalton love him too,
the preferred walk-on guys.
So maybe they're the higher duo.
You failed us,
putting him at 388.
No, see,
it's a little bit of a 285 wake
class situation. What I meant was 18. What I meant was he's 18 here. I gotcha. That's fair.
No, KJ. Duff's great. Awesome wide receiver out of Rutgers. 39. I got Yonsa Pierre.
The edge rusher from Alabama. Super athletic, very talented player. Excited and hopefully he takes
that next leap because right now we've talked about the long line of sort of Alabama athletic
defenders. And sometimes there's the guys that work out. Sometimes they don't. I think the ones that work out
versus the ones that don't simply it just comes down to do they get the technique right?
Because when you're in college, even if you're playing at the highest level like Alabama has over the last,
you know, 15, 20 years, athleticism only gets you so far in the NFL.
And Chris Braswell is an example.
Chris Braswell just got waived by the Buccaneers.
You know, they draft him in the third round and he doesn't pan out at all for them on a team that desperately
needed edge rushers over the last couple of seasons.
And I think a bigger reason why is because Braswell, really great athlete, clearly just
didn't put it together from a technique.
She didn't figure it out.
Yeah.
So, yeah.
So I'm hoping that Yonsa Pierre obviously figures it out from a technical perspective because he is the athlete,
I think, to be a difference maker in the NFL.
Jalen McLean, the safety from Ohio State rounds it out here at number 40 for me.
This was my surprise prospect, Connor.
I didn't, you know, we were getting to safety is late in the process anyways.
I didn't really know a lot about Jalen McLean.
he's a true junior this year.
Now, to be fair, when I was watching Ohio State safety play last year, I was watching
it for Caleb Down.
Of course.
Yeah, cut me a little slack there.
But this kid's also pretty damn legit.
Six foot tall, two and three pounds, 34th percentile in height, 36 percentile in weight.
Four star safety.
Played wide receiver and DB in high school.
Also ran track, ran an 11-06 in the 100 meter.
Started one game as true freshman season, then started all 14 games next to Caleb.
Downs last year.
And I think that McLean showed, I don't want to say just as much versatility as Caleb Downs,
but a whole lot of versatility to allow Downs to play in that role, right?
When you think about it, Caleb Downs only gets to do a lot of the things that he did at Ohio
State because there's another safety who can also be very malleable to what he is doing
every single play, right?
Like if you want to take a two, like, just think about it.
if you want to take a too high standard shell
and you say, hey, we want Caleb Downs
to basically be at the linebacker level on this play.
Well, okay, well, then you better have a safety
who could play single high, right?
Either in cover one or cover three.
Jaila McLean could do that.
Yeah, is that level of athlete.
You could say to yourself,
hey, I want Caleb Downs to play
as a single high free safety on this play.
Okay, well, do you have another safety
who could be beneficial on the boxer in the slot?
Yeah.
Jaylen McLean was.
So where I don't view him quite like I viewed Caleb Downs,
a lot of versatility there.
I think he's another player who plays fast,
but also plays pretty damn in control,
very square shoulders to wherever the ball is
and the line of scrimmage is.
I think he can really take on those crossing routes.
I watched him be a crossing routes type of eraser
when he was in two high shells or in, you know,
cover one middle of the field coverage
where he was the guy who was sort of roaming that middle of the field
and trying to keep it from having those crossers really destroy them on defense.
Like he was the guy who was responsible for that sometimes,
not just Caleb Downs.
I think he's a really solid tackler,
especially from depth, which is not a common thing.
You get a lot of these guys who've got to cover a ton of space.
That's what made Dylan Theeman so great, right?
It's not just Dylan Theanman being great in coverage,
but also Dylan Deeneman was able to scream down from a single high alignment,
travel 15, 20 yards at full speed,
and yet still try to be a sound tag.
tackler on you. I think that there's moments where McLean could do that as well. So a player who I did not
know a lot about who I was pretty impressed with the way that he played when I was watching these
safeties. Yeah, I see what you're seeing. He just missed my top 50. He was one of a handful of
safeties I watched. And I feel like none of them I watched were, were, forget bad players. They were
pretty good players. Yeah, it's good safety class. It's a good safety class. It's sturdy. They have range
in athleticism. And like you said, because of the role he was asked to play, maybe he didn't get the
recognition until now when we're heading into the preseason, the regular season.
All right.
Last 10.
Last 10.
All right.
41 through 50.
Let's see it.
This is the, you know what's so funny about this group, Trevor?
It's the, I don't want to leave this guy out.
Yeah, it kind of is.
So you start like, I got to get him in here.
Dude, that is my number 49 and number 50, but you read your 41 through 50 first.
So 41 for me, Ryan Coleman Williams, the wide receiver at Alabama, a polarizing prospect.
If I was just going off last year, he would not be in my top 50.
I'm still holding out, hope the player we saw at Alabama and that he's really young,
still really, really young player, might even go back to school another year and he'd still
be like a 21-year-old rookie.
So let's hope that he has a bounceback season because of his speed and playmaking ability.
42, Carter Smith, I put O-line from Indiana because I agree with you.
Center guard, wherever it is.
I like him better there not tackle.
43.
Bryant Westcoe, the wide receiver at Clemson.
I just think he's such a good vertical threat.
Yeah.
And just hopefully he's healthy.
44, he still has a lot of ability.
Lenora Sellers, the quarterback at South Carolina.
He has not developed the way we all hoped, but there are tools there.
And you and I said on the quarterback show, the tape was actually better last year than you'd think.
You just have to really, really watch the situation he was in to appreciate it.
But he's a developmental quarterback.
That's why he's all the way down at 44.
45 Bear Alexander.
You have a 45 Bear Alexander.
That is very funny.
Yep.
The synergy, baby.
I think Bear is a better player than Amori Washington today.
I think Amari Washington has more upside.
So I went with Bear over him.
46.
Jaden Maiava, the quarterback at USC.
You said about one of the quarterbacks, maybe Trinidad.
One of the quarterbacks you said as really like every club in the bag.
Mensa.
Menta is who I was saying.
Mesa is my Mensa.
Yeah, similar, similar mold.
I 100% see it.
Yeah, I mean, we had the San Jose State game this weekend for NBC,
and I just rewatch that game this morning just to see him physically.
And he's a good processor.
He throws with such beautiful touch.
He doesn't need a lot of space to load up and throw.
Miava is not going to be the fastest or have the biggest arm,
but the way he plays the position is pretty impressive.
47, Cade Piper, the center from Iowa.
Lots of like with his athleticism in the run game.
48, Nick Marsh, I think he's going to.
have a breakout year wide receiver for indiana 49 matthew yungalai the edge from oregon and then 50 i was
not making this top 50 without giant gregg johnson the do-it-all offensive lineman from minnesota
hell yeah um matteo yungalai kicks things off for me at number 41 uh bobucar treori the edge rusher from
yoder dame right behind him at number 42 43 is where i have mario craver a player who you know you talked
about a little bit earlier electric type of speed
Normally not my cup of tea with how small he is,
but I'm still sort of willing to believe in his play
because I think that he plays tougher than a lot of the wide receivers
who have his build right around, you know,
180 pounds, whatever it may be.
Coy Perich, the safety from Minnesota, now at Oregon.
I have him at number 44.
Really springy, explosive athlete, great coverage player,
really impactful his freshman season,
not nearly as good last year.
got to clean up on the really bad place.
There's just too many whiffs for him,
but the way he moves and the production that he had during his time at Minnesota,
I'm a fan.
I'm hoping that he goes the full Dylan Thineman route,
you know, where Thineman was fantastic at Purdue,
goes over to Oregon, really rounds out his game,
especially as a run defender.
And I'm really hoping that Parrish can do the same
because it is very parallel stories with,
with Thinaman really just playing as a great athlete and standing out as an athlete,
had a great freshman year, not nearly as good of his sophomore year, transfer Oregon,
turns into a phenomenal, well-rounded football player.
And I'm hoping that Parrich can sort of have that same path to him.
Barry Alexander, defensive lineman from Oregon, I also have him at number 45.
Your boy, Xavier Scott.
Love to see it.
Got him in the top 50.
I'll still believe, I'll still believe for the time being.
I want to see him back out and healthy, but I'm still believing here.
Jelani McDonald, the safety from Texas, a very uniquely built player, a bigger safety.
You looked like you were about to say something on him before I'm looking at my notes here.
So he was the last safety I watched.
I said that I watched a handful of safeties.
You had all of them, I think, in your top 50.
McDonald and we had McLean in the last group.
And I said, I felt like I'd never watched a bad safety from the guys that I got to watch.
So he is a senior this year at Texas.
Six foot two and a fourth,
92nd percentile in height,
and 194, 10th percentile in weight.
He played wide receiver safety and linebacker,
but mainly quarterback when he was in high school.
He also won the Texas for a triple jump title as a junior.
Was it competed in a long jump as well?
Also played basketball.
So just a total multi-sport type of a player.
played in 12 games as a freshman year, started four games the following year, started 13 games
next to Michael Tap last season.
Love his mentality.
Love how he's trying to just always be super physical with guys.
There are times when I feel like he's lower on the shoulder and going for the big hits a little bit too much.
I'm like, dude, you got the long arms, you got the frame, just wrap up a tackle.
But he goes to the big hits and hey, you know what?
I respect it.
He's got really great explosiveness.
Sometimes I feel like he's a tick slow when it comes to the lateral.
in true change of direction, but I think that kind of goes with his height a little bit.
I think he comes downhill with a purpose.
If he's coming downhill from depth, I think he's doing that plenty.
Useful as a quarterback spy.
So when he was asked to do that, he was excellent at it.
I think the range is decent for him.
But like I said, the change of directions a little bit slower.
So we need him to be a great anticipator to really be able to feel good about him in the deep areas of coverage.
I think he could, he's got the potential.
The reason why I'm in the top 50 is because I'm very intrigued by him.
that size,
explosiveness type of combination.
It's where a lot of the NFL is going with those safety nickel hybrid players,
especially as teams start to use more and more tight ends on the field.
And so I've got him in the top 50 because I could see him being one of those sort of
defensive chess piece type of guys.
I don't quite see him as a first round type of prospect,
but I think he's got that ability as a day two player to sort of hold that,
what should I say?
Prototype, I guess, is kind of like what you're really.
looking for in your defense if you have that type of a player built into what you want to do.
Drew Mestimaker, the quarterback from Tulane. No, not Tulane. Was Tulane? Now it's Oklahoma State.
Where was you before? North Texas. North Texas. God. Sorry. Microw brains over here. Great.
I had the same thing I froze. Yeah. I'm not built for this. He's not built for it.
Jalen Mayo, the cornerback who was at Stephen F. Austin. Now he is at Houston. He's sneaking in
at number 49. Love him as a man coverage corner. I like.
him more than his teammate Charles Demings, who got all the hype last year, at GLMAO is even better.
And then at number 50, a player who I am, I'm definitely planting my flag on here, LJ Martin,
the running back at a BYU.
I really do think, and I said this on the running back episode, I think there is a clear top
three running backs in this class.
And Jaden Baugh and Kiwan Lacey are, I think, the very obvious one and two.
I don't think that LJ. Martin is, is those guys, obviously, because I have them in the top 20.
but I think LJ Martin can do it all for you.
I think he has shown that he could be a three-down player.
He can be a receiver.
He can make you miss with agility.
He could certainly lower the shoulder and get great yards after contact.
He's built the way you want an NFL back to be built,
a 6 foot 2, 225 pounds.
I think this dude can really do it all.
So I wanted to sneak him into my top 50 there.
Anybody you want to highlight from your top 50 or say any more words on here?
Oh, I talked about a lot of these players.
I love Nick Marsha Block.
man.
Nick Marsh,
physically.
Yeah.
And after the catch,
it's almost like watching
a wide receiver with the mindset of a
fullback.
Dude,
he,
yes,
he wants,
he wants to lower,
he wants to punish you.
He wants to actually,
it is not enough that I succeed.
My enemies must also fail.
That is Nick Marsh
every time he touches the football.
100%.
It's like,
yeah,
I beat the corner for a catch,
but now I'm going to humiliate him.
It's correct.
That's the mentality that he has.
Really quickly, before we go to some of the players that maybe just missed the top 50,
this is from Garrett Greenlee Football Analysis.
He says, hey, fellas, long-time listener, first-time commenter.
It's not his first time.
He's been on the show.
Connor, the Aeronald voice clip.
Did they intentionally use you as an analyst because you are also as rift as Aeronald?
Thanks, I'll hang up and listen.
Dude, that was so cool.
That was so cool.
Yeah, really nice surprise.
I had no idea.
Really, really cool.
Glad to be a very, very tiny, tiny part of Aaron Donald's return.
Dude, he's going to thank you in the Hall of Fame speech.
He's going to bring you up by name.
I'll stand up in the crowd and wave to everyone and say, you're welcome.
You're also going to be wearing a gold jacket.
I just bought it off the rack, though.
They didn't, they didn't.
Imagine finding an actual Hall of Fame.
jacket in like goodwill that would be an all-time purchase it could happen I have found I have found
some absolute heat when it comes to sports jerseys that's oh it could yeah you could find some
crazy stuff truly and then people sell it on eBay for like $300 nowadays I would uh really
before we hit on some of these players outside of the top 50 I would love for everybody to think
because we're going to do we're going to read some of the super chats and get to the after
the after the episode portion of the show in a second but I would
love for you guys to say
what
thrift shop heat
you have found
when it comes to sports
jersees or sports memorabilia
anybody that you want to shout out
that was just outside of the top 50
oh yes
I think
like
CJ cars just outside of top 50 for me
um
jade Maya of as well
Bryant Westco who you had in yours
yeah
a Don Schuller
the nickel back from Notre Dame
I like him a lot
Desmael Lee, the offensive tackle from Youngstown State.
Amari Thomas, the wide receiver from Houston,
just an absolute bull as a slot-only type of a receiver
who's great in the after-the-after-the-catch stuff.
And then Jibril Rawls,
the tenacious zone corner from Florida State
is somebody that I liked a lot as well.
Yes, I had a couple here.
I think Nikki Prongos was a guy I really wanted in my top 50.
he was in that Caden Green's a couple offensive linemen Jordan Seton like those three I was like yeah they're they're right on the outside looking in I think that I like Cooper Barcate a lot the wide receiver from Duke that transferred to Miami I don't know if he's going to be a top 50 draft pick but I think he's going to be a really really solid player with his route running ability handful running backs and mod Hardy Isaac Brown Antoine Raymond they didn't make my top 50 but I like them as players and running backs you always kind of look at that round
three area. Did I say Amori Washington?
Because he would have been probably 51.
Okay.
Honestly.
If I had a guy like that in there.
Even Mateo Ungliiang, oh boy, there it is.
I got you back for the Kingston, Villiamu Asu.
But his teammate, Tatum Tuiyoti, yes.
Yeah.
Is all power and all run stopping.
But he was my next edge player.
And when you go down the list, like you had Babakar Treyori.
he was at he like those are the next two edge players that weren't in my top 50
were on my edge rankings both of them were in that combo as well trying to think i think that
you know the corners are always interesting i liked kane lee and chris peel quite a bit but they
didn't make it so yeah there was a couple guys but i i felt pretty good this time where i got
the players in that i felt like we really needed to talk about covered a lot covered a lot here
on this show um for this ranking and giving you guys our official
top 50s as we head into the college football season.
We would love to hear from you guys as we do every time.
Let us know in the comments, the players that we think,
that you think that we are way too high on, way too low on.
Guys that we didn't mention on the show who we should have,
all that great stuff.
Let us know in the comments.
We are close to returning to two times a week,
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However, the next episode that we are doing,
you knew we had to do it to them.
It's a mock draft, baby.
If we've got the preseason Big Board episode coming out,
you know what's next.
It is the very first mock draft that we are doing for the 2027 NFL draft.
Now, next Monday is Labor Day.
So we're actually going to take some time off on Monday.
So we're not going to have it on Monday.
But I think we're trying to make it happen on Tuesday for you guys.
So that's what we're going for.
We're going for Tuesday because then the NFL starts Wednesday.
Yeah.
It doesn't stop.
And that marks 852 days of consecutive NFL football.
That's right.
But we're trying to get you to the mock draft before week one starts.
So it's going to be coming to you guys next Tuesday.
So we know that's a little bit different.
But hopefully you guys are tuning because we're going to have a lot of fun for it.
Connor, anything else before we get out here.
No, fun show.
Love doing the preseason big boards.
Love to see how they change when we get to the final big boards.
That's always one of my favorite exercises.
what you got right, what you got wrong, guys to go back to school.
And I'm looking forward to these super chats because I saw a lot of them had to do with the big board show.
Yes. So if you are watching live, stick around.
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