NFL Stock Exchange: An NFL Draft Podcast - Ranking Every NFL Team By How Well They Draft
Episode Date: June 8, 2026With Connor out taking care of his newborn, Trevor Sikkema does an NFL Draft Tier List ranking All 32 NFL Teams S-F by how good they are at drafting. Subscribe to our channel and help us get to 75K! I...t helps us out a bunch. WE HAVE A DISCORD!!!!! JOIN HERE! https://discord.com/invite/PxSFVtWEwW https://discord.gg/PxSFVtWEwW?feature=description if the link doesn't work for you, just search 'NFLStockExchange' on discord or google and it'll pop up timestamps: 0:00 Intro 4:27 Cardinals 7:34 Falcons 10:53 Ravens 15:09 Bills 18:02 Panthers 21:41 Bears 24:36 Bengals 28:22 Browns 31:26 Cowboys 34:29 Broncos 37:35 Lions 41:20 Packers 45:00 Texans 48:18 Colts 53:30 Jaguars 58:10 Chiefs 1:03:22 Raiders 1:06:02 Chargers 1:10:17 Rams 1:16:44 Dolphins 1:20:12 Vikings 1:24:16 Patriots 1:27:17 Saints 1:29:41 Giants 1:33:03 Jets 1:37:11 Eagles 1:39:26 Steelers 1:44:49 49ers 1:47:44 Seahawks 1:50:35 Buccaneers 1:54:42 Titans 1:57:44 Commanders 2:00:24 Recap Follow us on X: https://x.com/NFLSEshow https://x.com/TampaBayTre https://x.com/ConnorJRogers We appreciate each and every one of you ADDICTS :) For business or other inquiries, reach us at nflseshow@gmail.com Hosted by Simplecast, an AdsWizz company. See pcm.adswizz.com for information about our collection and use of personal data for advertising.
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opening bell the NFL stock exchange show. Trevor Sykima here with you guys for a very fun topic that we have
here on an offseason Monday. Today we are tiering slash ranking however you want to say it.
Every single team in the NFL based on how good they are at drafting. We're not good to drafting.
We're going to S tier to F tier. We're going to go through every single team that we have in the lead.
We're going to review the stipulation here or the context is we're looking at the last 10 years.
So I tried to give a little bit more grace in my consideration here to some newer general managers who, okay, over the last three years, maybe we haven't had a ton of time play out yet, but I maybe like where they're going.
I like the direction.
I like the draft when it happened on draft night.
But we are going to look at the last 10 years of drafts for every single team.
And we're going to place them in tiers S through F.
I am still flying solo here for this show.
but for many of you who follow Connor, whether it's on Twitter or on Instagram or whatever it is,
you saw that him and his wife did have their baby this past week.
But I decided to say to him like, hey, buddy, I still got the show on Monday.
You can still get home and enjoy the transition period with your wife and your new son.
Shout out to Cameron, Cameron Rogers for the first time.
Make sure that I say that there on the show.
Big shout out to everybody who, oh, look at the man holding this.
on already. Big shout out to everybody who flooded Connor and Kristen's comments on
Instagram and Twitter just with congratulations. And I saw some incredible inside jokes from the
addicts there as well. Like, hey, the kid can already host the pod, which I think that he actually
can already host the pod if we're being honest. Somebody in there said that he was the Mike Evans
of Connor Rogers. We just had a lot of, you guys just made me laugh, as you always do. But it was
another sign of just how really cool this community is. So I don't want to take too much time talking
about that because I want to make sure that Connor can talk about it and thank you guys himself
when he comes on the show next. But flying solo today for that reason. So we're still letting him
and his wife adjust to being new parents. But shout out to everybody who helped welcome their new
son into the world and a new addict that we have here on the NFLSC family. This can be a long
show. And let me tell you, the chef
really cooked it up well for you guys. We got the tier
maker that you guys are going to see throughout the show.
We've obviously got the team logos and we'll be able to put them in
in all different sorts of tiers here. Like we mentioned,
S, A, B, C. Oh, I actually
had a D tier in here.
Tyler, can we add a D tier? Or am I going to have to like
on the fly?
Oh, man.
I actually think,
So I thought that we had a D tier in here,
and I did a little bit of research,
obviously, because it took me a long time to sort of get my bearings
and exactly where I was going to have these teams.
The D tier, this is so funny that it works out this way for me,
I think has the most teams in it.
So I'm going to have to separate these teams on the fly
between being a C tier and an F tier.
So as if this show wasn't already going to be incredibly entertaining,
there you go.
It's going to be even more.
entertaining for you guys.
But we're going to do this for every single team.
We're going to go in alphabetical order
because obviously we're not going to be like,
okay, here's all the S teams, here's all the A teams,
here's all the B teams.
That wouldn't be fun and that would be very anti-climactic.
So we're going to go in alphabetical order.
And, Chef, if you're ready to go,
I think we can get it rolling here with the very first team,
which is the Arizona Cardinals.
So the chef did a wonderful job
showcasing
all of the picks for every single team
that you guys will see if you were watching this live
if you're audio only. I'll try to explain it as best
as I can. Some of the players that are going to be
difference makers here
when it comes to this decision.
Ultimately though,
over the last 10 years,
sorry to say it.
Cardinals are an F.
The first team is going in F tier.
And if you go back to 2017,
because we're doing the last 10 drafts,
if you go back to 2017, it's just not
very pretty for this.
team. They've had two general managers. One is Monty Austin Ford.
Who's the general manager right now. The other general manager over this time period was Steve
Kime. They have had only one season above eight wins during that time. And if you go to 2017,
it's like, okay, Asan Redick, who is on ball, off ball, linebacker. It was a little bit tricky
sort of figuring that out for him. Eventually, he did find a home in the NFL being able to do that,
but it took a while for him to do that. You got Buda Baker as well in the second round, but not much
to speak for outside of that. 2018, obviously you take Josh Rosen at number 10 over.
overall. He's not even on your team a year later.
You had Christian Kirk as well, who's been fine, solid, but Chase Edmund's a fourth
round pick for you, not really much outside of that. You take Kyla Murray number one overall
the next year. You got Zach Allen in the third round, but then it's like, man,
Hakeem Butler, Andy Isabella, Deontay Thompson, just again, not really anybody to hang your hat
on there. The following year, you're taking Isaiah Simmons in the first round. The next
year after that, you're taking Xavier Collins in the first round. You get Tray McBride in the
second round of 2022, that's great.
But you just look through their drafts.
Really, the last handful of drafts for Steve Kime, and there's just not a lot of impact.
There's not a lot of guys that whether it was their premium picks or it was the mid-round
picks, like, there's just not a lot here for this team.
And there's a reason why this team failed to really get out of that rebuilding mode.
I would say that they felt like they were in since they drafted Josh Rosen in 2018.
they were in that spot because they needed a quarterback, they needed somebody to usher in the
new era for them. And really since then, they have not been able to take that next step.
And I think their drafts are a big reason why. You have the 2023 class, which I like, where you get
you have Paris Johnson Jr. and that trade back and then trade up. I like that maneuver.
Anybody who listened to show knows that. You got B.J. O'Jolari, Michael Wilson.
You Garrett Williams. You know, Keachell Clark. I think that this is a really solid draft for
them in 2023. But then you get 2024. Hey, Marvin Harrison, Jr. hasn't been exactly what
you've wanted him to be. Not that he can't get better. I'm not trying to say that.
But hey, you got other wide receivers that are already outproduced in there.
Darius Robinson's been low impact for him.
Trey Benson should have had the opportunity to be their RB1 this year.
And that doesn't look like that's going to be the case for them.
2025, I like the players in Walter Nolan, Will Johnson, Jordan Birch.
Like, I like those guys.
But I don't think there's really any way around it.
This has to be an F type of a draft.
So starting off with a bang here with the Arizona Cardinals as a F when it comes to how
they have drafted over the last 10 years,
which then brings us to the Atlanta Falcons.
I'm sure that I pull up the Falcons draft history here,
as Tyler does that as well.
Three general managers during this time
from 2017 up until now.
I would pit the Falcons in the F tier.
I had them in the D tier,
but if the D tier does not exist here,
we're going back to back Fs for these two teams
to start us out here in Alpha.
alphabetical order. You take Tack McKinley in 2017. Obviously, he didn't work out for them. And
unfortunately, you know, you're taking him over JJ Watt. That certainly, that certainly does not help
there. In that draft, you know, you had Duke Riley, Sean Harlow, DeMonte Casey. We're after that
low impact there. Calvin Ridley in the first round of 2018. Isaiah Oliver didn't really turn out
to be the impact corner that you wanted him to be. You get Russell Gage in the sixth round and
Foyosea Lewakoon in the sixth round, which actually I think were good picks there for them.
The following year, you got Chris Lyncherman and Caleb McGarry, who became really good impact players for them on the defensive line, but not much after that outside of that first round.
AJ Terrell was a good selection for them in 2020, but, you know, Arlen Davidson wasn't a high impact player for them.
Matt Hennessy, he was a starter for them for a little bit, if I remember correctly.
Yeah, but not like a full-time starter, and he's not on the team anymore.
He's with San Francisco.
Jalen Hawkins, funny enough, had a guy.
great year this past year, but he just,
his career was kind of a slow burn
to get to that point.
2021, I mean, Kyle Pitts,
fine selection, right?
I mean,
relative to the expectations of where he got picked
versus where you could, like the players you could have selected,
obviously that one stings a little bit there, but like,
Kyle Pitts has been fine. And then it's Richie Grant.
It's Jalen Mayfield after that. You get Drew
Dahlman in the fourth round, which is a good pick,
but there's just not enough here.
And again, like, I probably would have put this one in a D tier because
when you look at 2022,
you get yourself Drake London,
you get Tyler Augee in the fifth round,
the next year you get Bejan Robinson,
Matthew Bergeron, Zach Harrison,
those guys are solid for you.
But then you get into 2024.
We talked on this show about the blunder
that was the Michael Pennock selection
and how they handled quarterback.
Oroa is not even on the team anymore.
Trice had the injury.
Dorliss is a solid rotational player.
Last year, obviously Jaylon Walker looked good.
James Pierce Jr. will see what happens with him.
obviously with the serious off the field stuff.
Xavier Watts looked great.
Billy Bowman looked very good before the injury.
So it's looked better as of late,
but if you're looking at a 10-year sample size,
I think that you have to just look at this as an F.
I don't think I could put this in the C-tier.
I think that they have swung and missed too many times
and they just haven't had enough players
who have been able to,
who have been able to stick around and be impact guys for them.
John's saying that the Pittsburgh was disastrous.
I don't think it's a disaster.
Like, Pitts has still been good.
He had a good rookie year.
He just didn't take that next step in year two and year three.
And he was good again last year.
But I wouldn't say disastrous.
Is it hard to look at him versus, you know, who else was picked in that 2021 draft who was really good?
You know, specifically, Jamar Chase, you get Penixville.
You got guys like that.
Like, yeah, obviously it's tough.
But I wouldn't say that it's disastrous.
The Baltimore Ravens, next team that we have here, I'm going to go with
I'm going to go with an A here for the Baltimore Ravens.
And I'm very curious as to whether or not Ravens fans or even fans outside of Baltimore
who look at this team and how they've drafted, how they feel about it.
Because I looked at them as a team that seems to know their identity and their roster
needs pretty well.
And even though there are some swings and misses here, you have really good players through
every single draft that they end up having.
Now, I will say that the Ravens are typically a team that has a lot of draft picks.
So I wanted to take that into account because it's easy to look at a list of, say,
eight or nine draft picks and be able to pick out three of them and be like,
oh, okay, yeah, you hit a couple of guys in this class because, okay, you have eight or nine
selections there.
It's a little easier to do.
But you go to 2017.
You got Marlon Humphrey in the first round.
I thought that was a great selection for them.
You get Chris Warmly and the third who, you know, he's played for them and he's played
for Pittsburgh.
I think he's a solid football player.
2018, obviously,
Net Lamar Jackson, you've got Orlando Brown Jr.
You get Mark Andrews as well.
Sean Elliott in the sixth round.
Bradley Bozeman is in the sixth round as well.
2019.
Some people might look at Marquise Brown in that class
at number 25 overall and say,
eh, okay, Marquis Brown,
not really great as a first round pick,
but okay, if you're going to take a wide receiver,
that was kind of the explosive wide receiver that they wanted.
And I think context is really important.
important here, right? It's not like there were great wide receivers that were picked after him.
The next wide receiver after him was Nikiel Harry and number 32.
Debo Samuel was in the second round at number 23. Okay, maybe you could argue that one.
You've got AJ Brown who gets picked at number 51. Obviously, that one hurts a little bit.
But for what they wanted Marquis Brown to be and to add that explosiveness to their offense,
he was able to produce at a somewhat high level for them. So you get Justice Hill and Ben Powers
in that draft as well.
2020, I think people, funny enough,
they might look at the Patrick Queen selection
in the first round and go,
ah, see, Patrick Queen,
like, he's so overrated as a linebacker.
You get him at 28?
You know, like 28th, not that bad at all.
And you also add J.K. Dobbins,
am nominee boy to Buque.
You have Malik Harrison as that draft.
You get Gino Stone in the seventh round as well.
Go to 2021.
Again, Rashad Bateman.
I think people look at Rashad Bateman,
and they look at him and say,
man, I'm disappointed.
by Rashad Bateman,
but when you look at him
versus who was picked after him,
he's selected as
wide receiver 5 in that draft class
at number 27 overall.
I mean, the wide receivers after them were
Elijah Moore,
Rondale Moore, Dwayne Eskridge,
two to Atwell,
Terrace Marshall Jr.
So I'm not too harsh on that one either.
You get Brandon Stevens
and Tyler Wallace in that draft.
2022, you get Kyle Hamilton,
you get Tyler Linderbaum,
you get Travis Jones.
I think that the way that the Baltimore Ravens have drafted over the last 10 years,
I think this has to be an A.
I was like, ah, you know, there are some, there are some misses with this team,
but perfection is not the bar.
And I think that having the Ravens and talking about the Ravens is a really good way to sort of set the stage here for what makes a good team.
When it comes to overall draft success.
It's not, hey, did you shoot 100% or even above 80, 90%?
I mean, that's just not realistic.
So for what the Ravens have been able to do with the amount of picks that they have
and the ability to recognize what their coaching staff wants
and the players that really help them continue winning football games,
I think the Ravens are an A team.
Oh, somebody said, is that a fourth round punter?
They get a fourth round punter in here?
They did indeed, Jordan Stout, 2022.
It's a good thing that 2022 draft also has Kyle Hamilton, Tyler Linderbaum,
Travis Jones, Charlie Kohler, Isaiah likely.
That's that 2020.
draft is nasty from them.
That's a very, very good draft from the Baltimore Ravens.
So it kind of covers up the fact that you drafted a punner in the fourth round.
The Buffalo Bills, let's get the Bills draft history.
I went with a B for the Buffalo Bills here and how they have drafted over the last 10 years.
You look at 2017, it was Tredavius White for this.
team, Dionne Dawkins, Matt Milano. Beautiful. Beautiful stuff there, especially when
Tradavius White was playing at his highest level. He's one of the best corners in the game.
Dionne Dawkins obviously still doing it at a high level for them. And Matt Milano was a fifth
round pick, excellent stuff. The year after that, you get Josh Allen at number seven overall.
Obviously, it changed the trajectory of the franchise. But you know, you've also got
Tremaine Edmins, who obviously was a starter for this team for a long time. Teron Johnson.
Wyatt Teller, funny enough. I think Wyatt Teller was cut after after his first
year with Buffalo, so I don't want to give him too much credit for Wyatt Teller, but they did see
the vision enough to draft him, and then he goes to Cleveland and he becomes an incredible
guard prospect. Ed Oliver at number nine overall, has he been what you would have wanted from
a independent, like if you just say, hey, he was drafted in the top 10 at nine overall?
Maybe not, but Ed Oliver is still a good football player. You also get Devin Singletary,
you get Dawson Knox in that draft. AJ Epinasa in the middle part of the second round.
in 2020.
Gabe Davis as well,
Dane Jackson in the seventh.
And then it's Greg Rousseau,
Spencer Brown in 2021.
You get to Mar Hamlin in 2021 as well.
2022, okay, these are some of the picks.
It's like, all right,
is this is why the bills aren't in the A tier for me.
You know, you got Kyra Elam,
who you go within the first round.
But then look at the next three picks in 2022
from the bills.
It's James Cook.
It's Terrell Bernard.
It's Khalil Shakir.
Then you got Christian Benford in the sixth round as well.
That's really good.
up. I think Dalton Kincaid's a really good player in the first round of
2023 when he is healthy.
Sirens Torrance has been a starting caliber guard for them.
Has he become as consistent as they have wanted him to?
Maybe not, but he's a starting caliber player for them.
Keon Coleman in 2024, obviously that has been criticized, as we all know.
But Cole Bishop's a good pick for them.
And Gray Davis is a good depth pick for them.
I think Cedric Van Prawn is as well.
So the last two drafts, I think, for this team have been a little bit
more hitting this, but they've done a very good job again, especially when it was Sean McDermott,
who is there as the head coach, identifying the guys that work out for them. Oh, yeah, somebody's,
somebody's correcting me in the chat and saying, Teller was traded. He wasn't, he wasn't cut,
he was traded. You're right, you're right. He was traded to the Cleveland Browns, but still
sort of the same thing because they're letting them go. They're trading him. But anyways,
I think that this is very solid. I think the bills are very solid. I am giving them a B for how
they have drafted over the last 10 years.
The Carolina Panthers, I'm building out the suspense as I type in the draft history
for this team.
I gave the Carolina Panthers a seat.
I think that they are in the C tier here.
Now it starts off very strong when you're looking at the last 10 years.
You look at 2017.
You get Christian McCaffrey, you get Curtis Samuel, and you get Taylor Moten.
I think that that's, I think that that is really strong as a start there.
The following year, it's DJ Moore.
it's Dante Jackson, back to back in the first and second round.
Those are good players.
You got Ian Thomas in that draft as well.
The next year you got Brian Burns.
All right.
Hit on the first round there with Brian Burns.
Greg Little in the second round, Will Greer in the third round.
All right, not great.
Overall, the 2019 draft class for them was not great,
but you did nail it with that 2019 overall pick for the Carolina Panthers.
2020, you get Derek Brown at number seven.
Overall, Derek Brown is an unbelievable football player.
Year Gross Matos, you get him in the second round.
And look, I was never the biggest fan of Peter Gross-Matos when he was coming out of Penn State.
I always worried that, you know, he was sort of just so what you see is what you get.
I think a lot of people looked at him and his athletic potential and thought that he was going to really take the next level and take a massive leap.
I wasn't so sure that that was going to be the case.
Did not end up happening with him.
You do get Jeremy Chin in the second round as well, who Chen, I think the unfortunate part with Jeremy Chin is he's a very versatile player.
But going back to the conversations that we have all the time about versatility.
versatility is good.
Homeless is bad.
You don't want guys to not have a home base for them to be able to lean back on,
okay, maybe when they're struggling or they really need to make sure that this player,
you're getting the most out of their talents and what they see very well in the field.
And I just don't feel like Jeremy Chin had that with that coaching staff in Carolina.
So I do think that he's a solid player, especially for a late second round pick.
But obviously just ups and downs with all the different ways that they were using him
with that coaching staff when Matt Rule was there.
You get J.C. Horn, Brady Christensen, Tommy Trembled, Chuba Hubbard, like those guys in 2021.
Iki Akwano in the first round of 2022. Okay, good. But then you don't really get much out of that draft that's outside of Cade Mays in the sixth round.
Bryce Young really clouds a lot of this, right, because of everything that you gave up to go get him and you're still kind of sitting here like, is Bryce the long-term guy for us?
Jonathan Mingo was overdrafted in the second round. DJ Johnson was way overdrafted in the third round.
Chandler Zavala, he's been through injury, but he hasn't really taken that next step either.
You get Xavier Legat in the first round of 2024.
Obviously, that doesn't look great.
Trevin Wallace, the book's not finished on him.
He needs to have a good year this upcoming year.
So did Chetavian Sanders, to be honest with you.
He really needs to have a great year.
Jonathan Brooks, it sounds like he's, you know, running well.
Now that he's healthy.
I really hope that he has a fully healthy season because I think that kids really talented.
But, yeah, I think that C is appropriate for the Panthers,
you've nailed a good amount of their first round picks over the last 10 years.
But the Bryce Young selection, obviously,
and everything that went into it with the draft capital that you traded,
that weighs pretty heavily here.
And they have had some misses.
And I think a lot of the guys in the depth,
especially with the old regime and the old coaching staff,
which goes into account here with it being a 10-year sample size,
that really hurts them because a lot of those guys either on in the Panthers
or aren't even in a league anymore.
So, yeah, there's the Panthers.
I gave them a C.
Peter said them at work,
getting pounded right now, pause.
Just wanted to stop by and say hi.
I had to read that because it was appropriate for the pounders
because everybody during that current segment was getting pounded.
Pause again, I've got to make sure they say that there.
The Chicago Bears.
Where did I have the Bears?
Where do I put the Bears?
Oh, I put the Bears in the C tier.
When you look at the Chicago Bears,
better recently,
I think that the Kahlil Mack Trail,
definitely went into, if you go back to 2017,
like their ability to recoup a lot of talent,
what was it in that 2020 and 2019 drafts?
Because if you go to, I'm sorry, Tyler,
I'm messing you up big time.
But like, if you go back to 2017, okay,
you trade up one spot to draft Mitcher Chubisky,
it doesn't work out for you.
You get Eddie Jackson in the fourth round.
You got three Cohen, who I think was good when he was healthy.
So it's like, okay, that's decent.
More bad than good, unfortunately, with Mitcher Chubisky.
But then you get into 2018, hey,
You draft World Cohn Smith.
You get James Daniels.
Those are two good football players.
Not much after that.
And then you trade for Kalil Mac.
You get David Montgomery in the third round, but really nothing substantial after that.
2020, you don't have a first round pick there either.
But you do get Cole Komet.
You get Jalen Johnson that year.
You have Darno Mooney.
So you got some solid football players there.
2021.
You take a chance on Justin Fields.
Obviously, it did not work out for them.
But you get Kevin Jenkins in the second round.
Unfortunately, he had some injuries.
But I do think that he's a good football player.
Larry Boreham in the fifth round.
that's a good selection there.
Karis Tonga in the seventh round for where you're picking them.
That's a good selection there.
Kalil Herbert in the sixth round as well.
You get to 2022.
You get Kyler Gordon.
You get you Kwan Brisker.
You get Braxton Jones in the fifth.
I think it's really solid from them.
Vaila Jones obviously didn't work out for them,
but I think it's pretty solid there.
You're getting Darnell right in 2023.
You got Tyree Stevenson in this draft,
Gravon Dexter's in this draft,
Roshan Johnson,
Zach Pickens.
These are guys who are in that.
draft. And then you get to 2024 where, okay, it's Caleb Williams, is Romodun's 8,
it's Karen Amagaji, guys who I like, Austin Booker in the fifth as well.
2025, a draft that I loved from them. Colson Loveland, Luther Burden, Ozza Tripelo,
Shamar Stewart, Y, Kyle Munangai in the seventh. And then I really love what the Chicago Bears
did in 2026 as well. You get Dylan Thiena, you get Logan Jones, Sam Rouse, Xavier Thomas,
Malik Mohamed, like, these are some good football players that I'm very excited about. So I ended up
having the Chicago Bears in the C tier because I just think it was certainly a mixed bag
up until a couple of years ago.
I really have liked a lot of the drafts that Ryan Poles had,
especially now with Ben Johnson as the head coach.
I do like those there.
But it felt like C was appropriate for the bears,
especially given the fact that right in the middle of things,
like in that 2019, 2020 draft,
you don't have those first round picks because you got Colomac.
But yeah, so that's where I am.
with the, with Chicago Bears.
I have them as a C team.
Now the Cincinnati Bengals,
Bengals I had as a D team,
but we obviously don't have a D category,
so they are going in the F category,
I think for the Cincinnati Bengals,
since we don't have a D category here,
you start off in 2017.
You do get Joe Mixing in the second round,
but there's a reason why you got Joe mixing in the second round.
John Ross at number nine overall,
did not work out for them at all.
Jordan Willis did not either.
He, Carl Lawson, in the fourth.
but that's about it from that draft.
2018, you get Billy Price,
low-impact player for you in the first round.
You do have Jesse Bates in the second round,
which is decent, but, man,
Sam Hubbard in the third.
The problem with the Cincinnati Bengals is
they have swung and missed badly on trench picks.
Like, is Sam Hubbard the best defensive linemen
that they drafted over the last 10 years?
And Sam Hubbard has been,
solid for them.
He had eight and a half sacks in his second year,
seven and a half sacks in 2021,
then six and a half, then six.
I mean, Sam Hubbard's fine,
but who's a better defensive lineman
for a team that's needed a good defensive lineman?
I mean, they drafted Joseph Osai, Cam Sample,
Zach Carter, Miles Murphy,
Chris Jenkins,
Jackson McKinley.
I mean, Sam Hubbard's basically the best.
defensive line that you've drafted over the last 10 years.
And I just don't think that's good enough for a team that's needed better defensive line play,
basically for the better part of, certainly since Burrow has been there.
And I think the same can be set on the offensive line as well.
The Billy Price selection in the first round of 2018 was a miss.
Jonah Williams never developed into the player that you needed him to when you drafted him in 2019.
Jackson Carmen in the second round in 2021.
Let's see.
Who else do we have?
Amarius Mims, I think, can be.
a very good player for them. So I think that that's actually a good selection there. Dylan Fairchild,
I think it could be a starting caliber and solid guard for them as well. But man, there's just too many,
I think swings and misses and important positions that have really held this team back from
genuinely competing the way that they should with the offense that they have with Joe Burrow.
So to me, it's not that Bengals are void of having good selections. They've made some decent selections,
especially I think from 2020 on, you've got a handful of draft picks that are really nice for
them or solid, but they've swung and missed, I think, in the areas in the trenches where they
have really needed to hit for this to be what it needs to be from the Bengals. And I just don't
think that they have done a good enough job drafting. So yeah, I think that this is a, that this is a,
that this is an F here. Again, I had them in the D tier. F seems harsh, but if I have to pick either
I'm putting them in the C tier or putting them in the F tier, I'm going to put them in the
after here because I think that they have been disappointing.
Drake is saying Dexter Lawrence is going to be an interesting impact on Cincinnati's
defensive line. I agree 100%. I love that move for them.
And I genuinely believe that the Bengals are going to be really strong competitors this year
for the division title and then even a deep playoff run.
I think this team, if they stay healthy, if they can stay healthy, which I love the Bengals,
so I hope that they, I hope that they can.
I live in Cincinnati for a couple of years.
Bengals fans are dope.
I just think that there are so many years
where they have
had disappointing seasons
just due to things that were outside of their control.
I want them to be wholly healthy
because I want to understand
what the actual potential is
of this Bengals team.
So I hope that they get it,
but the way that they drafted it was the last 10 years,
I'm giving an F here.
Sorry guys.
The Cleveland Browns,
let's stick along the F-tier train.
This is a F-team here for me
with the Cleveland Browns.
I think their drafts are more hopeful as of late, right?
I mean, especially when you look at 2025 and 2026.
Mason Graham, somebody who I think could take a step up in his second year here in the league.
Carson's Wessinger looked great.
Quichard Juggins looked great.
Harold Fanon looks great.
I think that Dylan Samson can be a really good addition for them as well.
Obviously, you have the quarterbacks with Dylan Gabriel and Scheduer Sanders to see how that plays out.
I really like the Browns draft this past draft in 2026.
It was the only A plus that I gave out from this team.
When you start to work backwards,
not great.
2024.
You don't have a first round pick.
You go to Michael Hall, Zach Zinter, Jammari Thrash.
Low-impact selections.
2023.
Cedric Tillman has not emerged as the receiver that he's needed them to be.
Siaki Ik is not on the team anymore.
DeWan Jones struggles.
He's a fourth-round pick, but he struggles.
Isaiah McGuire's good.
for them.
You get 2022, Martin Emerson, up and down, but a starting corner.
You get Alex Wright as well.
David Bell, not impact for them.
Paragon Winfrey, not impact for them.
You get your own forward in the fifth round, okay, that's decent.
Jeremiah Usu-Kormo, unfortunately, in 2021, he just, he's had the neck injury in his career,
and I don't think he's ever going to play again.
Greg Newsom, who I thought was fine, but they traded him.
Now in 2020, Jedrick Wills, he draft him over, uh,
Tristan Whirfs, not great.
Jordan Elliott, Jacob Phillips.
Great to open in this class as well.
But in 2019, Greedy Williams, Cione Taki, Taki,
Sheldrick Red Wine, Mac Wilson.
2018, you got Baker Mayfield and Denzel Ward.
Obviously, good selection.
Oh, Austin Corb and Nick Chub as well.
Those four selections in 2018.
Really nice draft there for the Cleveland Browns.
And then in 2017, too, you get Miles Garrett number one overall.
It's kind of a dub, but hey, you got a really good player.
Miles Garrett, obviously.
You get your Bill Peppers.
You get Dave and Joe.
you have Larry Ogibu as well.
So 2017 and 2018, good for this team.
But I unfortunately have to factor in how they also utilize their draft picks in trading for
Deshawn Watson, which was a massive blunder for them.
So I don't think I can do anything other than have the Browns in the F tier because
the Deshawn Watson trade was an absolute nightmare for them and it cost them so much draft
capital.
Really since 2017 and 2018, they really have not drafted well until 2025 and 2026, which
are drafts that I like.
for them, but let's be honest, they're small sample sizes right there for Cleveland.
So I think this has to be an F.
These have to be an F for Cleveland.
I like the direction that they're going lately, but given, again, the draft capital that
was used on Deshawn Watson and then how I feel like they have just really failed to build
the correct team over the better part of the last half decade, this is putting Cleveland
in the F tier for me.
The Dallas Cowboys.
Where did I have the Dallas Cowboys?
Cowboys are in the C tier for me.
I gave the
Cowboys a C
Cowboys, I think we're all over the place
if I remember correctly.
Jerry Jones obviously has been the decision maker for them.
Well, not just him, but the Jones family.
Lammon Parsons, great selections for them.
They have constantly invested in the offensive line,
which I love from this team.
When you go back to, shoot,
where was their first major addition in the office?
Well, really, it's,
it's, you know, it's Connor McGovern in the third round in 2019.
Tyler Beaudish in the fourth round in 2020.
Let's see. Tyler Smith in the first round in 2022.
Tyler Guyton in the first round in 2024,
even though Tyler Guyton's been up and down.
And there's Tyler Booker in 2025.
Like, they have heavily emphasized the offensive line,
which I love that emphasis from them.
Once again, you know, the C. Lam and the Michael Parsons selections were fantastic for them.
You know, 2017 even.
You've got, okay, some misses, like Tico Charlton was a miss for this team, but hey, you got Chiodobey
Wuzier, you got Jordan Lewis, you got Xavier Woods.
All right, those are solid selections there.
You know, Leighton Vader has a good selection for them in 2018, even though his career
didn't last as long as it could have.
Michael Gallup, who's solid for them for a little bit, get Dorrance Armstrong in the
fourth, Arlington the fourth.
2019, like, all right, Tristan Hill, yeah, it didn't work out for them in the second
round.
That's why there's, it's definitely some hits and misses here with them.
Connor McGovern, Tony Pollard, Michael Jackson, then.
in the third, fourth, and fifth rounds.
You had C.D. Lamb in 2020.
You had Trayvon Diggs in 2020.
Tau Biotis in 2020.
Osa, Edigizua was a third round pick for this team in 2021.
Duran Blan was a fifth round pick in 2022.
DeMarvie being overshone.
If he's healthy, maybe he has that starting linebacker that they love in space,
a will linebacker for them.
Obviously, the Mazzie Smith pick didn't work out great for them.
You get Cooper Bibi in the third round, who I think has been solid.
Ryan Flournoy is a sixth round pick who's been really good for them
in 2025, excuse me, in 2026.
I'm looking forward to seeing how these players developed.
So I gave the Cowboys a C.
Jerry in the chat, I don't know if that's Jerry Jones, maybe it is,
is saying that this is a B.
This could be a B.
I think that I could argue that the Cowboys are a B here.
Do I do it?
Do I give them a B?
I think the Cowboys have had solid dress.
I'm not trying to get bullied by the chat.
You know what?
I'll give him a B.
Tau put him in the B range.
After kind of reading it out there,
I'll get the Cowboys a B.
The Denver Broncos next on the list.
Broncos, I gave a B as well.
If you go back to 2017 for the Denver Broncos,
Garrett Bowles in the first round,
obviously a great way to start it off here.
DeMarcus Walker in the second round,
eh, didn't really pan out the way
that they wanted to with him.
But, I mean, he was still,
he was hurt though, wasn't he?
because he missed a bunch of time in the first couple of years of his career.
What was his injuries?
Calf injury.
Yeah, anyways, DeMarcus Walker in the second round there.
Next year you draft Bradley Chubb and Coral and Sudden.
Okay, really nice.
Boom, one, two.
Not the deepest drafts there in 2018 and 2017 when it came to longevity of these guys.
But, hey, if you're hitting on your early picks, that's what matters.
And you got Garibbauds.
You got Corley Chubb.
You got Coral and Sutton.
Those are good picks there.
2019, Noah Fan, Dalton Reisner.
Vermont Jones.
I think those are solid.
Drew Locke in the second round as well.
You took Jerry Judy at 15.
Judy's fine.
You took him over CD Lamb, which not ideal.
But no, wait, that's what.
Yes.
Jerry Judy was 15 and then CD Lamb was 17.
Justin Jefferson as well at 22.
But I don't want to play two revisionist history with that one.
K.J. Hamler in the second round,
obviously a little bit of an overdraft.
but hey, Lloyd Cushingberry in the third,
Albert Okuaguanam in the fourth,
Justinornaud and the fifth, solid players.
2021, you got Patch Sertan,
you got Javante Williams,
you got Quinn Miners,
you got Baron Browning,
he's good players there for you.
2022, Nick Benito, Greg Dulcich,
2023,
Marvin Mims, Drew Sanders, Riley Moss,
who became a starting outside corner for you.
2024, you got your starting quarterback in Bo Nix,
get Joan Ellis, you got Troy Franklin,
you got Arjic Estimate, the Goat.
2025, I like their draft.
here with Jada Barron, R.J. Harvey, Pat Bryant.
I think this is really solid.
I think it's a really solid job over the last 10 years,
certainly nailing it with your picks that you had in the early parts of things
in like 2017 and 2018,
how 2019 was a strong draft from them as well.
But I thought this is really solid.
I would give the Broncos a B.
I would put them in the B tier for how they have drafted.
2020 was really bad for the Broncos.
Yeah, I mean, it wasn't great.
I mean, I like Cushingberry as a player.
Oak Wave, well, I'm solid.
Justin's okay.
Right?
I mean, like, you got like decent players there.
But for the most part, yeah, I mean,
Jerry Judy wasn't Cid Lamber, Justin Jefferson, which hurts,
even though, Judy's not like a bum at all.
KJ Hamler, though, I liked KJ Hamler a lot, but 46 overall, that was high.
And then Michael Ojeumudier at number 77, obviously, that wasn't great for them either.
But 2020 feels like their weakest draft, no doubt about it to call that out.
but I think for the most part, they do a really solid job.
The Detroit Lions, I have the Detroit Lions in the A tier.
Now, a good amount of this, if I remember correctly, does lean on what they have done lately.
Because if you go back to 2017, draw Davis in the first round, not great.
Tees-Tabor in the second round, not great.
Kenny Gallaudet in the third round.
All right, Kenny Gallaudet has some flashes, but, man,
they were short-lived.
It's like Jalen Reeves,
maybe was in the fourth that year.
2018, you get Frank Ragnow in the first round.
Frank Ragnow was a really good player.
But Caryon Johnson, the second,
really didn't pan out the way that you needed to.
Nothing really to speak of outside of that in 2018.
2019, you get T.J. Hawkinson.
Then is Jolani Tavai.
Amani R. Warii in the fifth,
but a lot of guys who were just not in the NFL anymore.
2020, Jeff Akuta,
you draft him number three overall.
He struggled.
but then, man, he had the injuries that really held him back from ever being coming the corner that I think he was talented enough to become.
You drafted DeAndre Swift in this draft as well.
You got Julian O'Quarrho, who's a good rotational edge rushing for you.
Jonah Jackson, who is a spot starter along the offensive line for you as well.
Not much there from the fourth round on in day three in 2020, but this is why the Lions become an A after this.
And it's in the Brad Holmes era, since Brad Holmes took over in 2021, you've got Peney Sewell,
Alim McNeil, Ifatumela Fonwu,
Amon-Ros St. Brown,
Derek Barnes, all in the 2021 draft.
Levi and Wuzareke is in this draft as well,
who like Levi and Ruzerike
could have developed into a really great defensive
lineman. He just had the injuries that he has dealt with.
He had the back injury first and then
the torn ACL after that. The 2022
draft, you get Aidan Hutchinson, you get
James and Williams, you get Kirby Joseph,
you get Malcolm Rodriguez, you get James Houston,
you get Chase Lucas in the seventh round.
2023, you got
Jamir Gibbs, you have Jack Campbell, you have Sam
Porter you have Brian Branch. I mean, this is an unbelievable run here.
2024, a little bit of speed bump here, right? Terran Arnold, who has struggled, and it's
Rakeshraud Jr. who hasn't been able to be healthy. You draft a Giovanni Manu in the fourth
round who, hey, I get a developmental offensive lineman, but fourth round that was rich there.
You did get Christian Mahogany, who could be a starting interior offensive lineman
for you, or at least a preferred backup guy in the sixth round there.
2025, I've talked about like, Tyleek Williams, I wasn't the biggest fan of, but
a solid football player. You get Tate Rallich, who could be a starter for you as well.
Isaac Tesla looks like he's just a highlight machine and that's it like just the highlight
real catches but maybe he'll develop into a little bit more as well and then this past
draft I really like this past draft for them as well with Blake Miller Derek Moore
those guys so to me I could have given the Lions B tier because of you know the 2017 to 2019
not the best drafts and I could have let that weigh them down a little bit but Brad Holmes has done
such an unbelievable job since he got there of not just drafting,
but drafting in his own way.
I mean, I was a critic of the 2023 draft.
How high they took Jamir Gibbs, how high they took Jack Campbell?
I looked at those picks and I was like, dude, what are you doing?
But somebody who is good at drafting isn't just good at drafting because they identify
really good talent.
It's also because they understand their team very well and their coaching staff very well.
And I think that's why, even though it's a little bit of a tale of two halves,
tail of the last, you know, decade, half decade,
the last five drafts or whatever it's been since 2021,
Holmes has done such an unbelievable job that I had to give the Lions an A.
I think this is an A team here for Detroit.
The Packers.
Oh, this is going to be a tough one because I'm pretty sure I have them in the D tier.
I do have them in the D tier.
I don't think I can give them an F.
I just don't think I can give the Packers enough.
Kevin King in the second round,
Josh Jones in the second round in 2017,
Montrevees Adams in the third round.
I mean, just did not pan out for it.
You draft Jamal Williams, you get Aaron Jones,
so you got two good running back picks there in 2017,
but those are day three picks.
You draft Jaya Alexander in the first round in 2018.
Obviously, like, Jairier was a phenomenal football player.
But Josh Jackson in the second round was a non-factor for you.
And then your best picks are Marquez Val de Scantling.
at Comenia St. Brown, fifth and sixth round players.
2019, Roshan Gary had flashes.
He didn't turn out to the player, turn into the player that you wanted him to be.
It's why he's in Dallas right now and not so with the Packers.
Darnel Savage, I really started to unravel there as his time in Green Bay started to wind down.
I thought he was way too inconsistent.
Elks & Jenkins is a good player, but hey, you don't really get anything out of like Jay Sternberger.
Kings of Kiki. He didn't really get anything out of any of those guys.
You get Jordan Love in the first round in 2020, obviously a phenomenal selection.
A.J. Dillon. Josiah Deguara, not good for them.
John Runyon, okay, but he's a sixth round pick.
2021, Eric Stokes, who was not the player that they needed him to be.
Josh Myers is fine. Amario Rogers did not work out for them.
Trudeau Sladen, again, funny enough, they drafted Cole Van Lannan, who's great now for the Jacksonville Jaguars,
but it wasn't a factor for the Green Bay Packers.
have Isaiah McDuffie as well.
But a lot of these, a lot of these names that I'm going to is like the, hey, okay,
like here's the good pick in the draft.
Like they're day three picks.
2022.
Okay, Kwey Walker at number 22 overall, Devante Wyatt, Christian Watson, Sean Ryan, Romeo, Dob,
Zach Tom, Kingsley, and Igbari.
Like, you got Rashid Walker.
That's overall a good class for them in 2022.
2023 is a mixed bag because you got Lucas Van Ness at 13th overall.
You got Luke Musgraves at 42.
Not great, but then you got Tucker Craft in the 13th.
third round, Jaden Reed in the second round.
Carrington Valentine's a starting corner for them.
You got him in the seventh round, but do you want that to be the case for them?
I think that's yet to be seen or proven.
The following year, it's like, all right, Jordan Morgan, he hasn't totally earned a spot
on the offensive line yet, but it certainly could be solidified this year.
I love Edgern Cooper.
I love Javon Bullard.
Marshall and Lloyd's up and down.
Tyron Hopper, I think he's going to be a good player for them.
Evan Williams is an excellent for them as a fourth round pick.
last year
he's Matthew Golden
it's Anthony Belden
Savian Williams
his parents Sorrell
I think I gotta give this a C
Tyler I think I got to put them in C tier
I just I don't I don't think it's been bad enough
where I could put them in the F tier
I look at the other teams
I've got sitting in the F tier right now
and even though I'm
disappointed with how I feel
the Packers could have done
I just I do not feel like there are enough
misses from the Packers
where I could put them in the F tier
so I'm going to put them in the F tier so I'm going to
put them in the C tier there, even though it's a lot of up and down, I think, for the Green Bay Packers.
The Houston Texans, where'd I have the Texans? I put the Texans in the B tier. So the Houston
Texans in the B tier, I think it was, it was pretty chaotic before the Casario drafts. And I think
Casario has done a really nice job of stabilizing sort of the return on investment with their picks. And I
think that having a good head coach like D'Amico Ryan's is a great way to do that.
You draft Deacon Watson in the first round in 2017, so that's kind of where we start our journey
here.
You draft Zach Cunningham as well, who, okay, Zach Cunningham didn't prove to be a long-term valuable
linebacker, but he was a tackling machine for a little bit.
Hey, you get that in the second round.
It's all right.
You get Julian Davenport as well, Carlos Watkins.
The next year it was basically just Justin Reed in that third round.
Nothing else for them.
Titus Howard in the first round in 2019.
Max Sharping, Charles Menehew,
eh, not the best draft there from them.
Again, I told you, it was a little chaotic before Casario gets there.
Ross Blaylock in 2020 is their first pick there.
They did get Jonathan Grenard in the third round there in 2020.
And then you get in 2021, okay, this is where things really start to turn around for them.
Because, well, I guess I should mention as well.
So you trade to Sean Watson, you get all that draft capital back.
That was excellent for them.
We're about to get into how they use that draft.
capital there. But I also love that this team got aggressive in trading for Laramie Tunso
when he became available. Like I think that's a positive use of your draft capital as well,
which is something that we're going to talk about when we get to the Los Angeles Rams. It's like,
hey, if I love how you use your draft capital when it came to trading for players that
really helped you become a winning franchise and play really well, I think you get a little bit of
bonus points for that as well. You didn't necessarily draft those players, but you used your
draft assets in a certain way. So I love both of their big trades over the last 10 years with
draft picks, whether that was acquiring Laramie Tunsell or trading away Deshawn Watson.
So I think those are both positive viewpoints, I guess I should say, for the Houston Texans.
2021, you get Davis Mills in the third round, Nico Collins in the third round, obviously a steal for
them, and NFLSD legend Roy Lopez in the sixth round.
Then you get to 2022.
Derek Singley Jr. in the first round.
Kenning Green, all right, admittedly, Kenning Green wasn't great for them.
But Jalen Petrie in the second round.
You get Damien Pierce as well.
The next year, you got C.J. Schrault, you got Will Anderson.
You got Tankdale, who was playing well before he got hurt.
You get you Scrugs.
Henry Toe-Tohos become a starting linebacker for them.
2024.
Camari Lasseter.
Blake Fisher.
Kaylin Bullock, excuse me.
Cade Stover.
That's why Kalin and Kade were right next to each other.
It was messing me up.
Then you get this in 2025.
It's Jaden Higgins.
It's Arionte Urstery.
It's Jalen Knoll.
Woody Marks.
And I like what they did this past draft as well.
I think I like what the Texas have done.
I've got them in the B tier.
I think especially as of late, they have really stabilized,
sort of how they have drafted and some good players that are fitting well on this team.
And I like the way that they navigated their big trades,
whether it was trading away Deshawn Watson or trading for Laramie Tonsil.
So I ended up putting them in the B tier.
The Indianapolis Colts, I'm going to get a lot of hate for this.
I give the Colts a B.
I actually don't know if I'm going to get a lot of hate for this.
Because some people absolutely love what.
Chris Ballard has done their general manager.
I am much more on the I like what Chris Ballard has done than I have hated it.
Has it worked out perfectly well for them?
Obviously not.
But there are too many hits on day one, day two, and day three of this 10-year history here for Chris Ballard and the Indianapolis Colts for me to give it something lower than a B.
2017.
Malay Cooker, he's still around in the league.
He was good for them as a safety,
but he wasn't, you know, this transcendent safety
that you're drafted in it.
You're expecting to get a number 15th overall.
I think he's still a solid player.
Look, you know, Quincy Wilson didn't work out for them.
Terrell Basham didn't work out for them.
Marlon Mack obviously went through the injuries, unfortunately.
But you get Grover Stewart in the fifth round as well.
2018, this 2018 class is very good for them.
Quentin Nelson, Shaqleynne,
Braden Smith.
You get Tyquan Lewis and Nihim Hines in this draft.
as well. Darius Fountain is in this draft as well.
Zaire Franklin in the seventh round, which is hilarious.
Like right when Jack Leonard started to go down,
Zaire Franklin, his stock started to go up.
So it's just two guys who were drafted in that 2018 class.
2019, Rokison, fine.
He was a second round pick for them.
Obviously, they would have liked for him to be more.
But EJ. Speed, you're getting him in the fifth round.
It wasn't the best 2019 class.
But guys, honestly, like a lot of the weak points
that we're going to talk about here for all these teams,
2019 wasn't a great draft.
So you're going to see a lot of weak points there.
So you have to take that part into account as well.
2020, it's Michael Pittman Jr., it's Jonathan Taylor,
it's Julian Blackman.
Isaiah Rogers, funny enough, was drafted by them in the sixth round.
And even though he didn't become a full-time starter with them,
he didn't become a full-time starter until this past year with Minnesota.
It is funny to kind of look at that and be like,
hey, all right, they got that guy in the sixth round.
It didn't pan out for them all he was there.
But just an interesting point.
You get quitty pay in 2021.
And I think some people might look at,
I don't, I think that some people might look at Quitty Pay and say like,
eh, you know, he's been disappointing for them.
Look, you got picked 21 overall.
And even though he hasn't like been a sackmaster for them,
they needed a defensive lineman and who were they going to pick after that?
Right.
I mean, Jalen Phillips is off the board at that point.
Michael Parsons is off the board at that point.
The defensive ends that were picked after Quitty Pay were Peyton Turner,
OdafeoA,
Greg Rousseau, okay, like I'll give you that one on Greg Rousseau.
But Joe Try on Show Yinka, there's not, I'm not going to be overly critical about that one.
You got the AOD Inbo as well.
Will Fry's in the seventh round.
2022, you got Alec Pierce, you got Bernard Riemann.
You got Nick Cross.
Really good players there.
2023.
Okay, look, the Richardson pick at number four overall in 2023, objectively not great.
But we've talked about this on this show.
they were kind of at a point where they had to take a swing on a young quarterback.
And they took a swing on one who had a ton of overall talent.
And it just didn't work out for them.
I mean, he's still on a team.
Maybe it does work out for them a long time.
We're seeing quarterbacks as late bloomers in the NFL over the last couple of years.
So maybe that is for Anthony Richardson as well,
whose development was always going to take a little bit longer,
given the fact they didn't play a ton while he was at Florida.
But they were in the position where they had to draft a young quarterback.
They had to do it.
And they take Anthony Richardson and it hasn't worked out so far.
but you get Julius Brent
who I think he's a good player
when he's healthy
unfortunately
he just hasn't been healthy
but you also get Josh Downs
you get Blake Freeland
you get Adito Miwaide
get Jalen Jones in the seventh round
it became a starting corner for them
2024
Laiat Tali Mitchell
Matt Gone Cavs
Tanner Bordellini
Jailen Carlis
good draft
2025
Tyler Warren
JT 2imoimoe
Malow
Jalen Travis
who I know they're excited about
you Riley Leonard as well
DJ Giddins
then this past draft
we really like cj allen h j halsey jalen farmer bryce betcher george gans kaden currie set mcgowan dion burkes
really like this draft really like this draft fair for them so i gave them i i put them in the b tier
but man i'm thinking about it kind of want to put them in the a tier they just haven't had
a lot of misses like especially with their big time picks like richardson obviously didn't work out for
them, but given full context, you know what? Put them in the A tier. Put the Colts in the
eight tier. I'm doing it. I'm putting the Colts in the eight tier. Come after me. Come after me.
Actually, don't. I don't want to get my feelings hurt. Okay. The Jacksonville Jaguars.
I have to go with an F here for Jacksonville because it has not been pretty. If you go back to
2017 for Jacksonville.
Leonard Fournett.
Good volume player for them.
But did he average more than four yards of carry
when he was with the Jackson?
At any point?
2019, he did.
2019, he averaged 4.3 yards per carry.
But his rookie year is 3.9.
2018, it was 3.3.
Year after that with Tampa's 3.8.
So, I mean, Fournette was fine,
but you take him number four overall.
It's really high for running back.
Kim Robinson has been a starting offense
tackle in the league.
but he's kind of bounced around a little bit there.
Not a lot to speak of outside of those picks.
2018 was bad.
2018 for this team was Taven Bryant number 29 overall.
DJ Chark, who's not in the league anymore.
Ronnie Harrison as well.
The following year, you get Josh Hines Allen and Juan Taylor.
Okay, those are objectively good.
I think that Quinti Williams in the third round,
even though he didn't really break out for Jacksonville.
He broke out when he was a member of the New York Giants.
Or sorry, the New York Jets.
Solid.
Gardner Ranchu in the 6th.
2020, an absolute disaster.
Like, I talk about 2018.
It was really bad.
2020, absolute disaster.
You drafted C.J. Henderson at number nine overall.
Caleb on Chase on, who didn't break out for you,
he broke up for other teams.
Leviska, Chenola, who's not in the league anymore.
That was a bad draft for them.
2021, you draft Trevor Lawrence at number one overall,
but how much credit I'm going to give you for that.
I do like the Travis A. Chan picks,
Tyson Campbell, Walker Little,
Andre Sisko.
I like those players.
2021 was solid for me.
2022, unfortunately, I think that Trayvon Walker is a good football player.
I want to be very clear.
You picked him in front of Aidan Hutchison.
Aidan Hutchison's better than him.
Aidan Hutchison goes one pick after.
You picked the wrong defense event.
I don't think there's any way to say it.
Again, there have been much more egregious this guy versus that guy drafts
regrets that have happened over the course of the NFL drafts lifetime.
But you picked the wrong defense event.
Devin Lloyd in the first round later, okay, good pick.
Look forward.
Chad Muma.
Not great.
Monterec Brown in the 7.
It's decent.
You get Anton Harrison,
who's been a starting offensive lineman for you in 2023.
Breton Strange,
who's been obviously a really good player for you,
but not a lot of high-impact guys
outside of Parker Washington,
who you get in the sixth round in 2020 as well.
2024, Brian Thomas Jr., elite rookie year.
Big step back from him as sophomore year.
Mason Smith in the second round,
not even on the team anymore.
Javon Foster's not on the team anymore.
You get Cam Little in that draft.
You get Jerry and Jones as well.
but then you have two drafts who
two drafts in 2025 and 20206 who
I just
I don't know what to do with yet
right
Caleb Ransaw missed his entire rookie year due to an injury
Wyatt Milam missed a lot of time due to an injury as well
Jack Keisler
Ryan Lane those guys are special teams guys for you
facial tuitin looked good in the limited
amount of time that he was able to practice with you
or play get on the field excuse me
but it all kind of hinges on Travis Hunter
and he was hurt as well so your first three picks
of that draft, which would carry the most weight in 2025,
missed a lot of time last year due to injury.
So I don't really know what to do with that.
I thought that that was a little bit of an up and down draft
when it came to where I would draft those players versus where Jacksonville
would have drafted those players.
But that's sort of a, I don't really,
I can't really give that a positive or a negative for them.
And then I've talked about how much I really felt like they were just zinging the other
way when a lot of other people were zagging when it came to their overall draft strategy
for 2026.
And so it's hard for me to spin that in a positive.
positive light, even though I don't want to be too harsh on it because these guys haven't even
played yet. I just, I don't think that there's a lot for Jacksonville, especially with two
really bad draft classes in 2018 and 2020. There's just not a lot to hang your hat on outside of
obvious picks that were supposed to be good. Josh Heinz Allen, supposed to be good.
I'll certainly give him credit for like Juan Taylor in the second round in 2019, but how much credit
can I give you for picking Trevor Lawrence at number one? I can't.
also you traded
somebody in the chat pointing this out
yeah you traded all of that
to go up and get Travis Hunter
which I like the aggressiveness
I think Travis Hunter's a hell of a football player
but if you can't get value out of them
on offense and defense
all of a sudden the value of that trade
changes as well
so yeah got to put the Jags Nift here
sorry Jags fans I don't mean to pile on
this offseason
but it's where I got to put them
the Kansas City Chiefs
I put the Kansas City Chiefs
in the A tier.
And the Chiefs in the A tier.
And it's a little bit of a complicated A tier here.
But it starts with Patcham Mahomes in 2017.
And it's not just Patrick Mahomes, right?
It's getting very aggressive to go trade up to get Patrick Mahomes.
Right?
And you're picking traffic Patrick Mahomes over to Sean Watson.
Like they were, they were convicted.
They traded with conviction that this was their guy,
that this guy was going to be good.
And obviously he's turned out to be.
the best quarterback in the NFL.
So you trade up and you get Patrick Mulams.
I like that from them.
You get Tano Pasano and Kareem Hunt after that in rounds two and round three.
2018, you didn't have a first round pick because of that trade.
They draft Breeland Speaks.
Obviously not a great selection for them.
Derek Nottie, solid football player.
What did Derek Nottie play?
He did play all of his career in Kansas City.
I thought he'd gone somewhere else.
Derek Nottis more than the solid football player.
That's a really good pick for him to play that many years.
in Kansas City.
So, okay, there we go.
I'm giving them credit for the Derek Nadi pick
because I think that's a really solid one there.
2019,
Mikul Hardman in 2019 in the second round.
I think that the Mikul Harman's selection
in the second round
brings up a point
that if there's any areas
where you would really poke holes at Brett Veach
and what he has done is their general manager,
it's the lack of being able
to get good skill position players.
because people are harsh on like the Miko Harman selection,
the Sky Moore selection,
Rashie Rice,
Xavier Worthy.
Obviously when he's been on the field,
he's been a good player.
Xavier Worthy, very up and down, very boom or bust.
And I think that there's just been some overall criticism of how he has acquired
those skilled position players,
and I think that's where he's failed.
But man, so many good defensive players, right?
Juan Thornhill,
Willie Gay, Nick Bolton.
On the offensive side, Creed Humphrey,
getting Creed Humphrey in the second round,
obviously that's fantastic,
getting Trey Smith in the 6th, excellent pick for you.
Trey McDuffing in 2022,
George Carloftus 2020,
Brian Cook, Leo Chanel,
Josh Williams,
Jalen Watson, Isaiah Pacheco,
Elite 2020 draft from this team.
2023, get Chamari Connor in the fourth round as well.
Felix Dono Dekuizama,
Clyde Evergey Lair,
And 2024 could have gone better with Xavier,
King Zuma Tia.
Jaden Hicksel, the greatest rookie year.
And then, man, it's just a really big step back.
Josh Simmons could be a great player for them.
You got Noel Williams, got Ashen Jolati,
you got Omar, Norman Lott as well from that 2025 class.
And then obviously this past draft, this past April,
Mansour Delane, Peter Woods,
our Mason Thomas, guys that were really excited about.
It has not been great acquiring the skill players.
There's no doubt.
but I think this has to be in a type of a
type of a haul over the last 10 years.
They have done a great job understanding
the players of this coaching staff has wanted.
I don't think it's all Brett Veach.
I think it's Andy Reid certainly right there as well
handpicking a lot of these players.
And for a lot of the specific reasons,
obviously you look at explosiveness from a lot of these guys
and wanting to get faster and that's what they're going for.
And by nature, when you get a lot of these players
who are a little bit smaller and our speed emphasis
players, guess what?
There's going to be some risk involved.
That's just how it goes, especially with
where you're drafting these guys later
in the draft, right?
Mikul Hardman was a
second round pick at number 56 overall.
Clyde Edwardsy-Layer, 32 overall.
Obviously, it wasn't a good pick, but hey, you're picking
a 32 overall there. Sky Moore.
All right? People go after the Sky Moore pick in 2022.
He gets picked at 54th overall.
What were the wide receivers after
after pick number 54.
Shoot.
You got Sky Moore sitting there at 54, which is where you pick them.
Al Pierce and George Pickens go the two picks directly in front of you.
Now, is it great the fact that Tray McBride is sitting there staring at you at 55 going to the Arizona Cardinals?
Obviously not.
But I think they were honed in on wide receiver at that time.
I mean, the wide receivers that were picked after Sky Moore there at 54.
Vailas Jones at 71.
Jalen Tolbert.
David Bell, Danny Gray.
These are all in order.
I'm reading these in order here.
So all that to say,
Veach has struggled,
but I don't want to just say it's all Veach.
Like I think that the Chiefs in general
have struggled to get consistency
from their skilled position players.
They've gone after certain traits
to be a more explosive offense
to pair with what Pat Mahomes is able to do.
But it has definitely come with a risk and reward
proposition and I think that the risk part of it has shown up a lot with skill position players
but even with the struggles of skill position players this is an A tier draft here for the Kansas
city chiefs. The Raiders, unfortunately Raiders fans, I think that you know what's
what's happening here. This is an F. This is an F here for the Las Vegas Raiders. They have had
six general managers including interim general managers since 2017. I love what
John Spitek is doing.
You look at the 2025 class and the 26 class.
There's a lot of guys that you can feel good about.
A lot of guys that are going to help change this franchise.
But if you go back to 2017,
I don't think there's a team with a lower hit rate in the NFL draft
than the Las Vegas Raiders.
2017 draft.
Gary on Connolly, Obie Mel Fonwu, Eddie Vanderdoz,
David Sharps, the only guy from that entire draft who is still in
league and you had nine picks in this draft.
2018.
Cole Miller, good pick.
Then PJ Hall, 18th in the second round.
Brandon Parker, Arden Key, Mo Hurst.
Oh, man, I love Mo Hurst in Michigan.
Man, I thought he was going to be so good in the league.
2019, you draft Cologne, Farrell at four overall.
Then it's Josh Jacobs later at 24.
Jonathan Abrams at 27.
Farrell and Abrams, just terrible for you.
Trayvon Mall in the same way.
Max Crosby and the 4th absolutely saves you here.
Hunter Renfro in the 5th actually kind of does as well.
2020, it's Henry Rugg, is Damon Arnett, it's Lynn Bowden Jr.
It's Brian Edwards.
I mean, just another horrible return on investment class for you.
2021, sure, you have Trayvon Mary, you have a divine Diablo, you have Malcolm Coons,
you have Nate Hobbs, but you also missed badly on Alex Leatherwood.
2022, it's Dylan Parham and Samir White.
Not much outside of that.
Tyree Wilson in the first.
first round in 2023, Michael Mayer,
Byron Young, Trey Tucker, he's okay players.
Tyree Wilson hasn't been.
That's why he's not on the team anymore.
And then he gets to 2024, obviously.
It's Brock Bowers, is Jackson, Powers, Johnson,
who I think could be a really good starting interior offensive alignment in the league.
Del Marguer has been able to fill in as a starter at offensive tackle.
It's certainly been better as of late, like 24, 25, 26,
a lot better, especially with the SpyTech drafts.
But, man.
That is tough.
That is a really, really tough 10-year sample size there for the Las Vegas Raiders.
So they've got to be in the F tier.
The Los Angeles Chargers, I think the Chargers are next, right?
Yeah, Chargers are next.
Chargers were a tough one for me.
I ended up putting the Chargers in the C-tier here.
but this is this is this was this was a tough one for me i went very back and forth on this if you go all the
way back to 2017 so that was that was with telesco because when did telesco get hired
telesco got hired in 2013 and he was a general manager until 2023 and then joe rites took over in
24. So a lot of this is
Telesco here.
Mike Williams, who
is a good
player,
had the
had the injuries as of late,
but he missed time in his
rookie year. What was it for?
What did he miss time? Chat, what did he miss time for?
And 20 is
rookie year. Herniated
disc in his lower back. That was it.
That was it.
Inactive for the first six games.
and then he played the rest of the...
He had a neck injury.
Somebody in the chest saying he had a neck injury.
He had a neck injury at Clemson.
Right?
I believe that was...
That was him.
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
That was when he collided with the goalpost.
That was scary.
But anyways, so yeah, Mike Williams in the first round of 2017.
Forest Lampe in the second round, not great.
Dan Feeney, Ray Sean Jenkins.
Okay, decent players.
2018, you have Darwin James,
17th overall.
Obviously good for you.
Kaiser White eventually became a starter for you.
Questenberry has been around the league.
Ucheninawosu in the second round,
who knew Cheninuosu.
was better,
is better for the Seahawks
than he was with the Chargers,
but still a decent football player,
still a fine second round pick.
2019, not good here.
Jerry Tiller in the first round,
DeCere Adderley in the second round.
Then you got Trey Pipkins,
who's solid for you,
Drew Tranquil, who has been better
with the Kansas Chiefs than he was
with the Los Angeles Chargers,
but at least those names
got to look good on the draft profile there.
But the first two picks in Tillerie and Adderley,
not good for you.
You picked Justin Herbert in 2020,
which I'm giving them credit for,
but I can't get them too much credit for it
because Burrow and Tua were already off the board at that point.
So it's like, it's just kind of the obvious pick there.
But you definitely obviously got a great one in Justin Herbert.
You traded up for Kenneth Murray, which is bad.
I mean, there's no way around it.
And then the only other player worth mentioning in that draft class
was the Lohe Gilman.
You pick Ray Sean Slater in 2021.
Asante Samuel Jr. and Josh Palmer
in the second and third round in 2021.
McKitty, after that, was nothing for you.
neither were any of the other players there in 2021.
Zion Johnson in the first round in 2022
was not the player that they needed him to be drafting him at 17th overall.
J.T. Woods in the third round was their next selection
and I don't even think he's in a league anymore.
I say a spiller as well.
You get you Marysolier and Obonia as well
on day three in the fifth and sixth rounds.
2023, draft Quentin Johnson ahead of
wasn't it Zayflower who was it
Quinn Johnson in front of Zay Flowers
and Jordan Addison
objectively not great
Tui Polo 2 is a good player for you
Diane Henley's a good player for you
Scott Matlock as a defensive tackle
fullback is the man
2024 you get Joe Alt, Lab McConkey
Junior Colson
Justin and Boygby
Tarheep still Cam Hart
you getting those two guys in the fifth round
to be impact defensive backs for you
that's really nice. Armari and Hampton
Trey Harris Jamarrett
Chalwell
I'mbert Smith, Ronde Gadsden, R.J. Mickens.
I put them in the B tier.
You know, let's move them up.
I got them to see.
I think the Telesco drafts were tough.
Some of those were really tough.
But I think as of late, they've been really nice.
I've liked what they have done.
And there's more solid picks than I think I thought originally when I was going
through the research here.
So I'm going to put the chargers actually in B tier.
I'm moving them up from C to B.
I think that that's fair for the way that they have drafted lately.
The Los Angeles Rams.
This could be,
controversial. This is going to be controversial here. I'm giving the Rams an A.
I think the Rams are in A tier. And here's where you have to start the conversation.
Because they don't pick in the first round. But you look at how they've used the first round
assets and their home runs, right? I mean, okay, let's look at how they have used their
their first round picks since I'm going to 2016.
I know we're talking about only 2017, but like 2016, they draft Jared Gough,
which I think matters here.
So you have Jared Gough who's eventually traded for Matthew Stafford, right?
In 2017, they didn't have a pick because they traded that to the Titans to go up and get Jared Gough.
All right.
2018, you trade your first round picks for Brandon Cooks.
2019, you traded back with the Atlanta Falcons, so you didn't have a first round pick there either.
2020 and 2021, you didn't have first round picks there because you traded them for,
oh, Jalen Ramsey, who helped you win a Super Bowl.
2022 and 2023 were part of the Matthew Stafford trade.
So you went and you got Matthew Stafford.
You drafted Jared versus the first round in 2024.
2025 you didn't have a pick because you fleece the Atlanta Falcons
by moving back a couple of spots and getting a first round pick for them there,
which you then used on Ty Simpson and then you traded your original pick
as part of the deal to go get Trent McDuffie.
And then under 2027 first round pick, you traded for Miles Garrett,
among other things.
You traded for Miles Garrett.
So they've done unbelievable when it comes to the assets that they have attained player-wise from the draft assets they have had, especially in the first round.
Now, if you go back to like 2017, there's enough solid picks here from them over the last 10 years where you can look at them using their draft capital in aggressive ways for pro players to say that this is an A,
type of last 10 years for them when it comes to how they've utilized draft picks.
Right?
2017, you get Cooper Cup, you get Josh Reynolds.
Obviously, Cooper Cup, meaning a lot more than Josh Reynolds,
but I think those are really solid football players for you.
2018, you get Joseph Nobomb.
In the third round.
We're starting in the third round here.
You get Joseph Note Boom.
You get John Franklin Le Meyer in the fourth round.
You get Obonio Okoronko in the fifth round.
You get Sebastian Joseph Day in the sixth round.
2019.
Taylor Rapp, solid player, second round.
David Long in the third round.
Greg Gaines in the fourth round.
Nick Scott in the seventh.
David Edwards in the fifth.
2020.
E. Cam Acres in the second.
Get Terrell Burgess in the third.
Jordan Fuller in the sixth.
2021.
Tutu Atwell.
All right.
Tutu Atwell is kind of a, again,
a speed swing of the bat there.
But Ernest Jones, Bobby Brown,
Ernest Brown, the fourth.
Ben Scoronic.
Solid.
22.
All right.
Logan Bruss,
not a good first pick for you.
It's in the third.
round to pick 104. That was their first selection in 2022. But when you look at that 2020
class, it also contains Kobe Durant, Kairn Williams, Quentin Lake, Daryon Kendrick. Good players.
2023. Steve Avila. Again, this is all without having first round picks.
Steve Avila, Byron Young, Kobe Turner, Warren McClendon, Pooka, Davis Allen.
2024, it's Jared Verst, it's Braden Fisk, it's Blake Corm, it's Cam Kitchens. It's Brennan Jackson. It's
Tyler Davis, it's Jordan Whittington, Special Teams Beast for you.
2025, Terrence Ferguson, Josiah Stewart, Kanata Mumfield.
They have done a good enough job.
Not picking in the top, certainly 32, but also the top 50 so many times.
Understanding that they're always in this position to hit the gas pedal and actually hitting the gas pedal and not getting scared of doing so over and over again.
I don't think I skipped Kyron Williams.
I see somebody in the chat saying he skipped Kyram Williams.
I don't think I skipped Kyron Williams.
I love Kyron Williams.
Hopefully I shouted him out.
So, yeah, I need this an A tier here for the Rams.
I used an A tier for him.
I thought about S tier.
I did think about S tier for this team.
I think I ultimately didn't go with the S tier
just because you look at some of their like first selections, right?
Like Gerald Everett was their first selection.
2017.
Not really an impact player for them.
2-2 Atwell in 2021.
Not really an impact player for them.
Logan Bruss, who I mentioned,
their first selection.
Again, like, it was in the third round,
but there have been a handful of times
where it was like, all right,
your first swing in the bat didn't exactly go well for you.
But if you wanted to argue with me that this is S-tier
for the players that they've acquired via trade,
the pro players that they've acquired via trade,
and then obviously some of the players that they've gotten
in the mid-in-law,
late. God, man, actually, am I convinced myself here? I might be convinced myself here.
All right, put a mess here, Tyler. I guess the more I'm thinking about it, I think the reason why I had
them a little bit lower and I had them in the A tier is, is there were those first couple of picks
in those first couple of drafts that you did not get a lot for. But there are, to the chat's point,
you are correct. There are too many hits in round.
round four, round five, round six for this team,
who have genuinely been difference makers
for the depth that they have had
and competing for playoff spots in Super Bowls.
I think this has to be an S-tier.
I think this has got to be an S-tier here.
Somebody said that they think that I don't have any S-tier teams.
I do.
I have two more S-tier teams.
You guys can guess whichever one you want.
But the Rams are now one of them
and there are two other teams
that will be in the S-tier.
So, yeah.
With that said,
We're moving on to the Miami Dolphins, which is the furthest from the S-tier.
The Miami Dolphins are getting an F for me.
Let's take it back to 2017 here for the Miami Dolphins.
Find themselves in the F tier.
The 2017 draft doesn't start out great.
Charles Harris, Rayquell-McMillan, Cordelia Tangerzley,
Isaac Asiata, Devon Gautchalk, you got him in the fifth round, but that's about it.
2018, Megan Fitzpatrick, very good football player.
Mike Gaseki, solid tight-in.
Jerome Baker, solid football player.
Oh, this is the Kaelin Belage draft.
I forgot.
Durham Smy's in this draft as well.
You got him in the fourth round.
In 2019, Christian Wilkins, 13 overall.
Then it's Michael Dieter at 2019 in the third round.
Excuse me, Andrew Van Ginkle in the fifth round.
Obviously, getting Van Ginkle in the fifth round.
It's a fantastic pick for you.
In 2020, you drafted two at number five overall ahead of Justin Herbert.
That's an L. There's no other way to say it.
Austin Jackson, who became a starting offensive tackle for you.
Solid pick.
but no Igbenagini number 30 overall.
Not good.
Robert Hunt, great pick for you.
Really good player.
Playing in Carolina now, so obviously that's not ideal,
but really good player there.
Brandon Jones, solid safety for you,
but okay, not really much outside of that there.
Dolphins have really struggled,
I think, with their day three selections.
2021, you got Jalen Waddle,
you get Jalen Phillips, you get Javon Holland.
Really good, one, two, three there.
The 2021 draft is the strong draft here
for the Miami Dolphins.
but man, 2022 and 2023, I mean, these drafts, outside of getting Devon A. Chan in the third round,
these drafts really set the Miami Dolphins back.
So they didn't have first round picks because they traded for Tyree Kill.
Obviously, Tyree Kill was phenomenal for them.
It didn't matter because it didn't lead to sustaining success.
But that was a good trade for them.
But when you look at what they were able to draft, they had eight selections in 2022 and 2023.
Those eight selections were Channing Tendell.
Erica Zucanma
Cameron Good
Skyler Thompson
Cam Smith
Devani Chan who I mentioned is good
Elijah Higgins and Ryan Haynes
That's
Yeah I end the tampering
Yeah the tamper losing a first round pick
for the tampering obviously hurt them as well
That's tough
That sets you back
And I think that that really set the depth
And the longevity of the Miami Dolphins back a lot
This has also been a team that has not been able to prioritize the offensive line the way that they needed to.
2024, Chop Robinson.
We'll see what his potential is and his ceiling is.
Patrick Paul, I think, has been a really solid offensive tackle starter for you.
So I like where Patrick Paul is going there.
Malik Washington might even be wide receiver one for them this year.
And they got them in the sixth round.
So, hey, maybe that's a huge win for them.
Last year, Kenneth Grant, Joe, Jonas 7a, was bad for them.
They have really failed to address the offensive line in ways that they have really needed to.
And that's why you draft Kate and Proctor this past.
year in the first round but to me the dolphins are in the F tier. There's just when you look at
those 2017, 2018 was obviously better but then you know like 2019 2020 drafts. I mean they
they did not have the long-standing talent at the Miami Dolphine scene and I don't think that
there's any way to give them anything other than an F over the last 10 years. Let's see Minnesota
Vikings. The chef's really putting the pressure on me here with the Vikings because I
had them in the D tier.
All right, let's read through some of these,
and then I'll decide whether I want to make them a C tier team or an F tier team.
2017 draft.
Well, actually, Vikings GM history since 2017,
it was Rick Spielman up until 2021.
It was Questi Adolph-Lamensa from 2022 to 2025.
And now they have Nolan Teesley.
Tisley, excuse me.
2017.
Dalvin Cook, good football player.
How many thousand yards seasons did he have for Minnesota?
He had four in a row.
Yeah, because what did he...
He missed a ton of time in his rookie year.
What happened?
His rookie year?
Oh, he tore his ACL's rookie year.
So you draft Dalman Cook in the second round of 2017.
Pat Elfline, Julio Johnson,
Bucky Hodges, the Annie Isidora.
Man, these are blasts from the past names.
Jack Toe Show.
Man.
So obviously the Davenman Cook pick was good.
But 2018, Mike Hughes, Brian O'Neill, great for them in the second round.
Tyler Conklin, a tight end.
Jalen Holmes, the defensive line.
Daniel Carlson in the fifth.
Man, Carlson was cut immediately.
Yikes.
He went 0 for 4?
He was picking the fifth round.
He's an NFL debut against the San Francisco 49ers.
converted all three extra points
missed a field goal in overtime
and he was cut the following day
man tough business
tough business
anyways
Garrett Bradbury
Irv Smith in 2019
leudo in the second
sixth round
Chris Boyd in the seventh
Alexander Madison in the third
2020 obviously you get Justin Jefferson
which is huge you trade Stefan Diggs
and you get a pick back and you get Justin
Jefferson there
Jeff Gladney
Cameron Dancer, Ezra Cleveland,
Blake Brandel, Josh Mattelis,
2021, you get Christian Derrissau,
Kalamont of the 3rd, which is bad.
Chatserat in the 3rd,
White Davis in the 3rd, man, yeah, that was not good.
That was not a good draft.
Cam Biden in the 4th.
Amir Miss Smith-Marset.
Oh yeah, J.L. Antoineman in the 6th.
22, Lewisine, Andrew Booth, Ed Ingram, Brian Osamoa, bad draft, bad draft.
2023 is Jordan Addison, Mackay Beckton, or Mackay Beckettin, Mackay Blackman.
About have Mackay Beckton size.
2024 was the McCarthy draft, Dallas Turner, Walter Rouse, 2025 is Don Jackson, Ty Felton.
I think he's got to be an F, Tyler.
I think he's got to be an F.
Yeah.
Just not good Spielman drafts at the tail end there.
And then, yeah, Quessie's drafts were very underwhelming, unfortunately.
Yeah, I think it's got to be an F.
The Patriots, yeah, it's going to be an F.
If I can't put them in the D tier, they were in the D tier.
But just from, I mean, just from the Belichick drafts alone,
I think this has to be an F here going back to 2017.
Because for the Patriots, I mean, it's been better lately.
I've liked what the Patriots have done lately.
Like if you look at 2025 and 2026, there's a lot of solid players there in that draft, right?
2025.
Will Campbell through all the debates of his up and downs and struggles and where's his ceiling.
I think he's a solid football player.
Trayvon Henderson is a good splash player for them.
He's a type of player in a skill set that they needed.
I think Kyle Williams is going to have a breakout season this year.
Jared Wilson is a good player.
Craig Woodson was excellent last year.
So I like that class.
I like what they did in 2026.
but man, if you go all the way back to 2017,
they're picking another third round.
They're picking Derek Rivers,
who was on the team, what, like a year?
Dietrich Wives, you get him in the fourth,
but that's a four-player class.
2018, it's Isaiah win, it's Sony-Michel,
it's Duke Dawson.
I mean, your best player at that point was Braxton Berrios.
I mean, Sony-Michel obviously just had the injury issues,
but, no, because how many games did Isaiah win start for them?
Yeah, I mean, he started his second and third.
third year in the league, but then they let him walk.
2019 was Nikiel Harry, Juan Williams, Chase Winnevich, Damian Harris,
Y'all the Frode Holt, Byron Cowert.
2020, Kyle Dugger, Josh Huchay, Anthony Jennings.
Yeah, then the back-to-back tight end picks.
You get Michael and Wayneau in the 6th, who was the best value for you there.
2021, you got Mack Jones and Christian Barmore,
from Andre Stevenson and the 4th.
That's a solid draft for them, obviously.
2022 then it's cold strange is tyquan thornton marcus jones jack jones
you get christian gonzalez in 2023 because it's a gift from the commanders from not picking him
but then yeah this this is the huge class from them where it was like okay
keown white's not even on the team anymore martin mappu's been in and out of the starting lineup
city so Antonio mafi like this they get they get pop douglas and kashom booty in this class
which is nice but then the following draft it's like jillin polk in the second
not even on the team anymore.
Javon Baker in the fourth,
out of the team anymore.
K. Wallace, Leighton Robinson,
I don't know how well those guys are going to be
if there ever has to be starters.
Drake May at 3 overall,
which obviously is franchise changing for you,
but I think Patriots has to be an F.
This has to be an F.
We got to put them in the F tier.
There's no other way around it here for the Patriots.
The New Orleans Saints.
Hold on, I'm going to clear the billions of tabs that I have
before I pull up the Saints.
I think I had the Saints in the C tier.
And I did.
and let me tell you why.
The 2017 class, which counts here,
is one of the greatest draft classes you're ever going to see.
It's Marshawn Lattimore.
It's Ryan Ramchick.
It's Marcus Williams.
It's Alvin Kamara.
It's Alex Anzolone.
It's Trey Hendrickson.
Just phenomenal players.
Rounds 1 through 3, high impact players at major positions
that allowed the Saints to be one of the best teams in their division
for years and years to come.
The following year, they got a great.
and they traded up for Marcus Davenport,
which I don't think Davenport's a bad player.
He was just hurt a lot.
So that one's tough to judge too negatively.
You get Eric McCoy and C.J. Gardner Johnson
in the second and fourth round in 2019
because you didn't have a first round pick
because you traded it to move up to go get Marcus Davenport.
But to get Aaron McCoy in the second round, that's great.
You get Zach Bonn in the third round the following year,
Adam Troutman in the third round as well.
Caesar Ruiz, Ruiz, which are picking the first round,
which, you know, is Caesar Ruiz,
the most reliable interior offensive linemen in the NFL.
Or I should say, you know what,
I shouldn't say reliable because I feel like he started a ton of games for them.
But is he the highest ceiling guy?
No, but I think he has started a lot of games for them.
Peyton Turner in the first round in 2021.
Obviously not great, but Pete Warner, Paulson and Debo, right after that.
Those are good players.
Chris Olavet in the first round of 2022.
Trevor Penning in the first round, obviously didn't work out for them there.
But Alante Taylor is a good player.
You got him in the second round.
2023 was tough.
23 was a tough draft for them.
Brian Brzee, Aesia Foske, Kendrae Miller, Nick Sal DeVary, Jay Canter.
None of those guys really worked out for you.
But Taliseiwanga, Kulay McKinthry, Spencer Rattler obviously started a little bit for you in
2024, so you feel good about those guys there.
2025, you got Kelvin Banks and Tyler Shuck.
Jonas Sanker was a really good player for them last year in his rookie season.
Hank Denny Stutzman could be a starter for them eventually.
I think that C-tier is pretty solid for them there.
They've had some swings and misses, but especially if you're including that 2017 class,
I think that the C tier for the Saints.
I can see an argument for B tier,
but I'm not quite there yet for them.
So I'm going to go C tier here for the New Orleans Saints.
The Giants, let's see.
Where did I have the Giants?
I got the Giants in the C tier as well.
I think people are going to look at a lot of their swings and misses
and want them to be in S, or not S tier,
F tier.
I just can't get there.
Right, 2017 for this team.
Evan Ingram in the first round.
Dalvin Tomlinson is in the second round.
Solid players, right?
Davis Webb was right after that.
Wayne Gawman's right after that in the third and fourth round.
2018, yes, Sequin Barclay, who...
We talk about him at number two overall, the value of that,
but really good football player, obviously.
Still one of the best running backs in the NFL.
Will Hernandez in the second round for them.
You get B.J. Hill in the third.
2019.
Daniel Jones, again, like, you say like,
hey, Daniel Jones didn't work out for them,
but, you know, DJ looked pretty good last year with the Colts,
albeit in an offense that was very much tailored towards what he did well
and was able to make things pretty easy on him.
But he's not the worst quarterback I've ever seen in my life.
What a compliment there.
You get Dexter Lawrence at number 17 overall.
DeAndre Baker, after that, not great.
But then Julian Love in the fourth round,
he had Darius Slate in the fifth,
Corey Ballantyne in the sixth.
2020, it's Andrew Thomas, Xavier McKinney.
Those are really good players.
And yeah, sure, like after.
that it wasn't great for them but you're nailing somebody these early picks cadarius tony at 21
objectively very bad selection gator great but objectively a bad selection azizzo jilari you got in the second
round after that 22 kvon tibito evan neil you kavon tvvon you kind of picked where you did because
you didn't have the option to pick either the other guys right you didn't have the option to pick
travon walker you didn't have the option to pick aiden hudgeon um evan neal charles cross still on the
board that was a tough one obviously that's not a good pick for them but you get wandale robinson
in the second round, who ended up being productive
until, you know, obviously you signed out with the Tennessee Titans.
Yet Daniel Bellinger, he got Michael McFadden, yet Dayton Belton.
Cordell Flawfults in this class as well.
2023, Deonté Banks, bad.
John MicroSmith, not good.
Jalen Hyatt, not good.
Not good.
203 was not a good draft.
I like the 2024 draft.
Malik neighbor is a hell of a football player.
Drew Phillips is great.
Theo Johnson's good, or at least good as a reserve player.
Tyrone Tracy, I think, is a good player for you.
Tyler Nubin isn't as good as I thought he would be at the
I think he's solid.
2025, you got Abdul Carter at number three overall.
You get Jackson Dart, who maybe he ends up being an absolute steal for you at number 25.
I love Cam Scadaboo as well.
I think Marcus Bow is a versatile interior offensive lineman.
Darius Alexander, I've got some faith in to get in that defensive line rotation,
especially with Dexter Lawrence, no longer there.
And he got some decent high-ceiling guys that he drafted in 2026 as well.
So I think it's a C-tier for the New York Giants.
I'm going C-tier for them.
I think that there are the obvious stings.
You know, D'Andre Baker, not great, Cadarious Tony, not great, Evan Neal, not great.
Deonté Banks, not great.
And I think those speak very loudly for people.
But when you look at their total draft halls over the last 10 years,
I don't think I'd go less than the C tier here for the New York Giants.
What about the Jets?
The New York Jets, C tier as well.
I need a C tier for the Jets.
I don't think, they, especially with no D tier.
think that they've done enough to warrant an F tier here for the New York Jets.
You draft Jamal Adams and six overall in 2017.
That's how we started things out there.
And Jamal Adams was an impact player for them.
Obviously, he didn't turn out to be like the long-term impact player for the New York Jets,
but he was a high-impact player for them while he was there.
Yeah, Marcus May as well, so really good safety picks, but not much after that.
I mean, this is the Ardaria Stewart draft, Chad Hansen draft, Jordan Leggett draft.
Not much of guys that really stuck around and were high-impact players.
Sam Donald in 2018.
him credit for it. No, I'm just kidding. I can't give them credit for it.
You take Sam Donovan at number three, and obviously it just doesn't work out for them.
The Zach Wilson pick as well. I mean, if you just want to look at the quarterbacks and say,
hey, they had two opportunities to take these two quarterbacks in the top three, and it didn't
work out. I'd give them an F tier. That's, that, if you want to hang your hat on that and say
that's how I'm fundamentally going to grade the Jets, I can't really fight you too much.
But, you know, picking Sam, giving Sam a chance. To me, it was much more of a coaching and an
organizational failure just outside of, you know, drafting these certain players.
Nathan Shepard's right after that in 2018 in the third round.
Fulah Fuducasi in the sixth round in 2018 as well.
2019, you draft Quinn Williams.
Third round, you draft to Kai Polite,
which was lighting a draft pick on fire, unfortunately.
Chumaudoga was a good swing and reserve offensive tackle for you.
Get Blake Cashman the fifth to.
Mackay Beckmanover, Tristan Worf's in 2020, obviously stings.
That one's tough.
That one's really tough.
Denzel Mims, Ashton Davis, Jbarzuniga, La Michael P. Ryan.
The 2020 draft was a disaster for the New York Chess.
There's no way around it.
2021, Zach Wilson didn't work out for them.
Elijah Vera Tucker is a really good player.
I think Michael Carter is a good day three pick
because you get to the fourth round there for them.
And they had Elijah Moore in the second round.
Obviously Elijah Moore didn't work out for them either.
Jamie Sherwood is a fifth round player is solid.
Jason Pinock is solid.
Michael Carter, the second is solid for them there.
Brandon Eccles is solid.
Again, these are day three selections.
2022, Sauce Garder, really good football player.
You drafted a good football player.
Garrett Wilson,
Germain Johnson,
Breece Hall.
Those four picks,
really good football players for you.
You got four really good football players
for your first four picks in 2022.
I like Will McDonald in 2020 in the first round.
Joe Titman's a good versatile interior offensive lineman for you there as well in the second
round.
Didn't really have anything to write home about in the third round that year.
But 2024,
you draft Olu Foshanoo,
really good player.
Malkai Corley did not work out for you at all.
You get Braylon Allen and Isaiah
Davis too. And then last year, or sorry, I should say 2025, Armand Membou, Mason Taylor,
Azaree Thomas. Arrian Smith was not a good pick for them, but we kind of knew that on draft
day. He was way overdrafted where he was at 110. Malachi Moore, you draft in the fourth round.
He's a rotational, good defensive back for you. So if I had a D tier, I would, I would put the,
I would put the Jeff's, Jeff's in the D tier. Man, should I put him in the,
F tier? Is this an F tier
drafting team?
It might be. I didn't
want to do it.
Connor's not here.
He's high on life right now as a new dad.
I didn't want to do it to him, Tyler.
I think I might have to
though. I think this
I think if it's either a C tier
or an F tier.
Sadly, I think the Jets are
an F tier. Sorry, Connor.
Glad you're not here for this.
You didn't deserve to see that.
The Philadelphia Eagles are S-tier.
No question about it.
Absolutely no question about it.
The Philadelphia Eagles over the last 10 years,
Haye Roseman has been their general manager for,
I think the last 15 or 16 years.
So he's had his hand out all these drafts.
And I mean, there is just,
there is no way around the Eagles being an S-tier drafting team.
2017, it's Derek Bardett.
Okay, they took a chance on Sidney Jones coming off of the injury
in the second round.
It didn't work out for them.
but after that, Rasul Douglas, Matt Collins,
solid football players that have been around a long time,
still in the league now.
2018, Dallas Goddard, Josh Sweat,
Jordan Milata in there in that draft
in the second, fourth, and seventh round.
2019, admittedly, bad draft, right?
This is the one blunder here,
but I said this a couple minutes ago,
well, it's probably 30 minutes ago now.
2019 kind of looks bad for like every team.
Every team's 2019 draft was bad
because the 2019 draft was bad.
But Andre Diller, Miles Sanders,
J.J.R. O'S.
a white side. I mean, it just was not, it was not a good draft in 2019.
2020, you draft Jalen Rager headed Justin. Admittedly,
not great. But you get Jalen Hertz in that draft, the quarterback who ended up winning you
a Super Bowl. You get that in the second round. Camel Wallace in the fourth round is a good football
player. Jack Driscoe was a depth offensive lineman for you. Quess Wackens, who was a defensive
or sorry, a depth wide receiver for you. And then you start getting into how we've just
being on an absolute heater.
An absolute heater.
2021.
Devante Smith,
Landon Dickerson,
Milton Williams.
Kenneth Gamewell is in this draft as well.
2022.
Jordan Davis, Cam Jurgens,
Nikobi Dean,
Grant Calcutterra in the 6th.
2020, it's Jalen Carter,
it's Nolan Smith, it's Tyler Steen,
it's Sidney Brown,
Keeley Ringo, Morrow Ojoomo,
2024, Quinyon Mitchell,
Cooper DeGine, Jalach's Hunt,
Jeremiah Trotter Jr.
And then this,
2025, Jehad Campbell,
Andrew McCuba,
Ty Robinson, Antoine Powell Rydland, Smail Munden.
He's been just an absolute heater, man.
An absolute heater.
This is a S-tier type of a team when it comes to drafting.
The Pittsburgh Steelers, I don't know, because they're in D-tier for me on my notes,
but we don't have a D-tier here.
So again, building up the suspense, 2017 was great for this team.
You get T.J. Watt at 30th overall.
You get Jujis Smith,
Huster in the second round
who's a productive player for you.
You also drafted James Connor,
who was your workhorse back in the third round.
Really nice 2017 draft here for the Pittsburgh Steelers.
2018,
Terrell Edmonds,
Mason Rudolph,
Chuck of Coroform,
James Washington in the second.
How many years did James Washington play with the Steelers?
He did play four years with them.
Man.
Not enough return on investment for a second round.
round pick. There's no doubt about that.
2018, not a good draft for him.
Devin Bush, you traded up to go get Devin Bush, who unfortunately just got injured early
in his career and really wasn't what the Steelers needed him to be for the second half
of his rookie contract.
And then that's why he's over in Cleveland.
And he played well for the Cleveland rounds, actually.
But Deonté Johnson, Justin Lane, Benny Snell, Zach Entry.
I mean, there's guys who weren't even in the league anymore.
So 2017 was a great draft for the Steelers.
2018 was bad.
2019 was bad.
2020 draft chase Claypool in the second round
and I know I know that pick you get some criticism
but if I remember correctly there weren't really great options
for wide receiver after that
it was Van Jefferson
it was Denzel Mims
Lynn Bowden Brian Edwards so like they took the chance
on a wide receiver and honestly like at least
if you're going to take a chance on one he was the right to take a chance on
Alex Highsmith in third round objectively good
Kevin Dotson objectively good for them in the in the fourth round as well,
but Dotson's now doing his thing for the Rams.
He became a starter last year.
Oh, no, he became a starter in 2021 and 2022.
But now he's with the Rams and he's really good with the Rams.
2021, you drafted Nashi Harris because you had to because James Connor left in free agency,
so he needed a workhorseback.
There's Pat for Armuth, Kendrick Green, Dan Moore.
could just, I mean, not really a lot there.
Kenny Pickett in the first round, bad miss.
Broder Jones in the first round of the second,
the next year, 2022 and 2023, bad miss is.
Funny enough, their second round picks of Joey Porter Jr. and George Pickens,
obviously, were good picks for them.
But 2024, I liked their 2024 draft because it was Troy Falton,
who was Zach Frazier, who was going to be a really, really good player in this league for a long time.
Peyton Wilson, I think, is a starting linebacker.
You get him at 98.
I thought that was good value.
Roman Wilson, I'm hoping, can really show something this upcoming year.
Last year, okay, you get Derek Harmon, but then, you know, it's Caleb Johnson,
it's Jack Sawyer, it's Yaya Black.
This would be a D-tier team for me, but I, without a D-tier,
yeah, the chat is correctly pointing out that Danmore Jr. is the highest paid Danmore Jr.
Well, actually, he's not, Peter, because there's a CEO of some company
that's higher paid than him, but he's one of the highest paid Danmore Juniors.
I think this might be F tier.
When did Con takeover?
Let's see.
What year did Omar Khan takeover is the GM?
2022.
So where are we at with 2022?
Can he pick a year?
Not good.
Yeah, George Pickens, which obviously a great pick,
but he's not on the team anymore.
DeMarvin Leow, Calvin Austin.
23, Roger Jones, obviously not great.
Keanu Benton, Darno Washington.
as well. I forgot the shout of Nick Herbig.
Yeah, a 2024 draft is strong too.
You know, I like, I'm a much bigger fan of
Con's drafts, especially as of late.
I would put them in the D tier, but instead I'm going to put them in the C tier.
I don't think it's been bad enough to warrant an F.
So we traded Claypool for JPJ.
Am I misremembering this entirely?
Am I misremembering this entirely?
Oh, yeah, they traded Claypool for,
the pick that was used for Joey Porter Jr.
Right, right, right, right.
All right, right, right.
All right, see,
San Francisco 49ers?
San Francisco 49ers are a C tier team.
They're the craziest, weirdest,
C tier drafting team that there is, genuinely.
This is a roller coaster.
Buckle up.
2017, you guess Solomon Thomas is number three overall.
Not great.
not worth the three overall pick.
Ruben Foster is in the first round there as well.
But then later in the draft,
you have a Kittle Witherspoon in the third round,
you have George Kittle in the fifth round.
Then you go to 2018.
Mike McGlinchy at number nine overall, good pick.
Dante Pettis in the second round, not ideal.
But then you have Fred Warner in the third round,
and you have DJ Reed in the fifth round.
Insane.
2019, you get Nick Bost in the first round,
Debo Samuel, in the second round.
But then Drake Greenlaw in the fifth,
2020, it's Javon Ken Laugh in the first round, didn't work out for you, Brandon Ayyuk,
I'm going to say for all intents and purposes did not work out for you.
But then you get Juan Jennings in the seventh.
2021, one of the worst draft trades over the last 10 years, no question about it, the Trey Lance trade.
You draft Trey Lance is number three overall and all the assets that you traded to go get him.
But then later in that draft, you get Diomador-Lonor in the fifth, you get Tewanova-Wong in the 5th,
you get Elijah Mitchell in the 6.
hilarious.
2022. Drake Jackson.
Not great.
I like Drake Jackson a lot, but it just didn't pan out for them in the second round.
Tyrion Davis Price, lighting a pick on fire for running backs like the 49ers do all the time.
But then you get Brock Purdy in the seventh round.
2023.
J. Hare Brown.
Jake Moody in the third round.
D winners, though, in the sixth.
2024.
Ricky Pearsall in the first.
Renardo Green in the second.
Dominic Poonie.
in the third, Malik Mustafa in the fourth,
Isaac Rendo, lighting and running back
pick on fire in the fourth round.
2025, it's Michael Williams,
it's Alfred Collins,
Nick Martin, Upton Stout.
I just think that it's absolutely hilarious to me
the up and down that is the San Francisco 49ers draft.
So they have had some early picks
that I have just not liked at all, right?
Like the Javon Kinlaw pick,
the Trey Lance pick.
Drake Jackson didn't work out.
selection in 2022.
You don't have a first or second round pick in
2023. But then you have
the complete
rarity that is
them getting
Kittle, Hufonga, Purdy,
Juan Jennings, Drey Greenlaw,
DJ Reed, Diomador-Lanor
all on day three.
And then you also include Fred Warner
and Akiel Lewis Spoon in the third round.
And then all the running back picks that just didn't
make sense for this team
just
insanely up and down,
but I think C tier is where I've got to land for them.
The Seattle Seahawks,
this is the third and likely final
S-tier drafting team.
Now, a lot of the heavy lifting here
is done by the last half decade,
the last five drafts that we've had from John Schneider.
If you go back to 2017,
eh, not great.
Malik McDowell.
in the second round is their first selection in 2017.
Ethan Posick right after that,
Shaq Griffin in the third round,
and just not a lot to remember kind of after those picks.
2018, Rashad Penny, Rashim Green,
Will Disley, Shkeem Griffin.
Eh, not a lot of great there
from the Seahawks there in 2018 either.
2019, kind of the same.
You get D. Kim McHaff in the second round,
which is great, but L.J. Collier in the first,
Marquise Blair in the second.
Cody Barton's in this draft.
Hugo Amati, who is a good player,
but went through his injuries.
Travis Homer in the 6,
but it's just like, all right, outside of D.K. Metcalf, not really the high impact that you want.
2020, you draft Jordan Brooks. You get Jordan Brooks in the first round, all right.
D. L. Taylor, Damian Lewis, Colby Parkinson, DJ Dallas.
It's like, all right, that's okay.
2021, it's only a three-player class there for them.
Dwayne Eskridge, trade around, Stone Forsyte.
Not a high-impact draft, right?
So you go all the way through 2017 to 2021.
I don't love it.
However, from 2022 on, this is why this team is an S-tier for me.
2022.
Charles Cross, Boy A. Maffay, Kenneth Walker, Abe Lucas, Kobe Bryant, Rikwollen.
2023, Devon Witherspoon, Jack Smith, and Jigba, Derek Hall, Zach Charbonnet.
Unbelievable.
2024.
Byron Murphy.
Christian Haynes, A.J. Barner.
2025,
Grace Able,
Nikki Manwari,
Elijah Oroyo,
Tori Holton,
Tori Horton,
excuse me,
Ricky White,
this past draft
they got Judarian Price,
Bud Clark,
Julian Neil,
Bo Stevens in the 5th.
This is an S-tier draft team.
This is an S-tier draft team.
The way that they have drafted
won them a Super Bowl.
No way around it.
Yes, of course,
they acquired Sam Donald,
and he was a big reason
why they got to this point.
But,
that only happens if you drafted a truly, truly elite level for three or four
drafts in a row like John Snyder did from 2022 on.
So this is an S-tier drafting team for me.
Even though 2017 to 2021, it feels like there were a lot more misses than hits when it came
to the impact players that they needed.
But the way that they have drafted since 2022, S-tier drafting team.
The Tampa Bay Buccaneers, I told you guys for the Seahawks selection, that they were my last
S-tier team.
So the Buccaneers do not get an S-tier ranking here.
I'm not fully rigging this exercise for Tampa to shine.
But they do belong in the A tier, in my opinion.
There are just so few flat-out bad misses for the Tampa Bay Buccaneers with Jason Light,
certainly since 2017.
He had some big swings and misses, I think, in his early few years as a general manager.
But even the Buc's misses don't feel.
terrible and their hits feel fantastic.
Right? I mean, like, you look at O.J. Howard. Was O.J. Howard great as a 19th overall pick?
No, but he was solid for them and he was a role player for them during when James was there.
He had a higher production and then he was solid for them during the Super Bowl years.
Justin Evans, I think, could have been a good football player, had it been for the injuries.
You get Chris Gobwin in the third, which is excellent value for you. In 2018,
you get Vita V at number 12 overall. He had Carlton Davis in the second round.
Alex Kappa in the third round. Jordan Whitehead, who was a starter for you in the fourth
round. Justin Watson and Jack Sitchie, were special teams guys for you.
2019. Devin White. Number five overall.
Objectively, long term, was the ROI worth it? No. Did it help them win the Super Bowl?
And was he a key player for that playoff run? Yeah. You draft Sean Murphy Bunting as well,
39, who, all right, Sean Murphy Bunting had his struggles. But again, is he the worst player in the
league that's ever been drafted, you know, around pick 39? No, I don't think so. I think that he was
disappointing. It's why he's not with the Buccaneers anymore, but he wasn't a terrible football player.
Jamil Dean's in the third round. Mike Edwards is in the third round there as well. Anthony Nelson
in the fourth round. Scotty Miller in the sixth round.
2020, you get a steal in Tristan Wirfs. You get a steal in Antoine Winfield Jr.
You got Tyler Johnson in that draft as well. Then he gets to 2020,
2021. Joe Chariang Choyenka. Again, this is a player who, was he worth the first round pick?
Maybe not. Well, I shouldn't say that because in the 2021,
one classic saying was it worth
this selection, you always have to take
into account who is available around you.
You would have liked to see
more from a pass rusher who was selected
in the first round than what the bucks got from Joe
Triang Shio Yenka. But he was fine.
He was a fine player. He just
wasn't the first round player
that I think they were hoping
that he could be. Kyle Trask, you know,
he didn't do anything for the Buccaneers, but I think
he was just insurance for when Tom Brady was there.
Logan Hall, same thing as
the Joe Triang Shrine
showing you in a conversation.
This is a player who is fine.
Would you have wanted more from him?
Yes, but this isn't like a massive swing and a miss.
They didn't totally miss on what the guy could be in the fact that like, oh, wow, he's,
he busted and is completely out of the league.
Pause.
You got Luke Geddiki in the second round.
You got Rashad White in the third round, Kate Otton in the fourth round, Zaya McCallum in the fifth.
Then it's Collegiate Cancy.
It's Cody Mock.
It's Yaya Diavi.
The following year, Graham Barton, Tykee Smith, Jailan McMillan,
Buckie Irving in the fourth.
Elijah Klein, who's a good depth of offensive linemen for you.
2025, it's a mechigbuka, it's Ben Morrison,
it's Jacob Parrish and the third.
It's David Walker in the fourth.
This, I just think that Jason Light,
the floor for the Buccaneers is so, so, so high
because of who he is as a scout and how he sees players.
The Bucks just so very rarely draft a player and they go,
oh, yeah, this guy can't play.
Sealing, sometimes, yeah, you take a risk on guys
or, you know, it goes one way or the other,
and the ceiling doesn't work out for a handful of players.
But I don't think the Bucks have drafted perfectly enough to be an S-tier,
but I genuinely don't think that you could have them any less than A.
If anything, you could argue them as an S-tier team
if you want to just look at success rates of them versus other teams in the NFL.
If anything, I think that you would argue them up.
I don't think that you could argue them down.
But I have them here as an A-tier team for how they have drafted.
over the last 10 years.
The Tennessee Titans.
I think I'm going to have to put them in the F-tier, Tyler.
I had them in the D-tier, but I think they've got to be an F-tier team.
If you go back to 2017,
you go Corey Davis at 5 overall in 2017,
then Zadori Jackson at 18 later in that trap.
To want Taylor, who didn't work out for them in the third round.
Johnny Smith, who was fine for them in the third round as well.
2018, Rashad Evans in the first round,
which was a whiff by them.
You get Harold Landry at 41 in the second, which is good.
But then you only had Dave Crookshank in the fifth round and Luke Falk in the sixth round.
So basically a nothing class for them outside of Harold Landry.
2019 was phenomenal for them.
It was Jeffrey Simmons.
It was A.J. Brown.
It was a Monty Hooker.
Like that's a phenomenal draft for you, especially given the fact that they only had seven total picks.
2020?
Bad.
Isaiah Wilson, Christian Fulton, Darrington, Darrington Evans, Larellell-Murchison.
not a good draft.
2021.
You have Dylan Radins,
you have Elijah Molden
in that draft
in the second and third round,
but Caleb Farley
in the first,
Monty Rice in the third,
Des Fitzpatrick in the fourth,
Richard Weaver in the fourth,
not a good draft.
2022, Traylon Burks in the first,
Roger McCreery in the second,
Nicholas Petit Ferrer in the third,
Malik Willis in the third.
And I think how Malik Willis's tenure
with the Titans went
just speaks to how chaotic
that entire situation was.
So you didn't really get any sort of stability or high-ceiling players
out of any of your draft picks there.
Peter Skoronsky in the first round in 2023, who was a good player for you.
Will Levis.
You drafted him in the second round.
Tadje Spears.
Then the next year it's J.C. Latham is Tavondrey Sweat.
Latham might not even be a starter tackle for you.
Tavondry Sweat.
He is not even on the team anymore.
Jarvis Brownlee is not on the team anymore either.
Cedric Gray was a tackling machine for you.
But okay, you draft a tackling machine.
linebacker in the fourth round.
That's kind of where you're supposed to draft those guys.
You get Cam Ward at number one overall in 2025.
Although Femio Dejo is a total project pass rusher in the second round.
Who knows what his spot in this rotation is going to be with a new coaching staff.
Kevin Winston, I'm excited about Shimmery, DK, obviously was great for them in special teams as a slot player.
Gunner Helm, Elkayo Maynor.
I think these are good players.
Jackson Slater, a good depth offensive lineman for you.
But I just don't think they've done enough.
I think I have to, this has to be an FTA.
team. I really like what they've done. I like the potential of 2025 and 2026, I should say,
and the 2019 draft was great for them. But outside of that, it has not been what it's needed to be.
So I'm going to go with an F for the Tennessee Titans. Let's see. Wow, we got too many F teams,
Tyler. We're breaking the machine. The last one is the Washington commanders who they might be another F team.
They might be another F team here.
So let's look at the commanders who I had them in the D tier on my notes,
but obviously we don't have a D tier team here.
I think the problem with the commanders is that you have a lot of major round one disappointments, right?
Chase Young was not the player that you hoped that he would be.
Obviously, he's not even with them anymore.
He's with the Saints.
Jamie Davis, your first round pick in 2021.
John Johnson, your first round pick of 2022,
Emmanuel Forbes, your first round pick in 2023.
The 2024, 2025 classes,
and I'm excited about the 2026 class as well.
These are really solid selections for them.
But man, you go back to 2017.
You draft John Allen in the first round.
It was a good player for you.
Ryan Anderson was not in the second round.
Fabian Rowe, Samadjaphi P. Ryan.
Duran Payne was obviously a solid player for you.
You draft him.
13th overall in 2018.
Who did they pick over him over in 2018?
Marcus Davenport, Colton Miller,
Derman James still on the board,
Jare Alexander still on the board.
I mean, there's some good players that you picked over,
but if you wanted a defensive lineman,
I mean, it was basically him,
and then Taven Brian was next,
so hard to be too,
try to critique too much on that.
2019, you drafted Dwayne Haskins in the first round,
which is obviously a tragic story
about him and his passing.
Montes-Swett and Terry McLaurin, obviously good football players there for you in the first round and the third round.
You get Cole Holcomb, as well.
Cam Curl in the seventh round in 2020.
2021, you had Sam Cosby in the second round, which is great.
Benjamin State Juice, Tami Brown.
Man.
God, 2022 is bad, too, from this team.
John Dotson, Fadarian Mathis.
Brian Robinson, obviously as solid as a running back.
But Percy Butler, Sam, Hal, Cole Turner, Chris Paul.
I think this is F tier.
I think this is F tier.
Yeah, I got to do it.
Sadly.
I like where the commanders are going lately.
2024 through 2026.
I like where they're going.
But I think that's F tier, folks.
There we go.
There we go.
Every team of the NFL placed into tiers.
The S-tier teams.
We've got the Seattle Seahawks,
the Philadelphia Eagles and the Los Angeles Rams.
The A tier, it's the Tampa Buccaneers,
the Detroit Lions, the Kansas Chiefs, the Indianapolis Colts, and the Baltimore Ravens.
B-tier is the Los Angeles Chargers, the Houston Texans, the Buffalo Bills, the Dallas Cowboys,
and the Denver Broncos.
C-tier, it's the Green Bay Packers, the San Francisco 49ers, the Pittsburgh Steelers,
the New York Giants, the New Orleans Saints, the Carolina Panthers, and the Chicago Bears.
The F-tier, the Jets, the commanders, the Titans, the Dolphins, the Patriots, the Vikings,
the Raiders, the Cardinals, the Jaguars, the Fassians.
Falcons, the Bengals, and the Browns.
Here we go, folks.
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