NFL Stock Exchange: An NFL Draft Podcast - Reacting to the 1st 2027 Mock Draft (Historic?!)

Episode Date: May 4, 2026

Trevor Sikkema and Connor Rogers react to Dane Brugler's Early 2027 Mock Draft. Brugler is known as the most well-respected NFL Draft Analyst in the world, as he's been very accurate and detailed with his analysis for years. Connor and Trevor are using this as a preview for the HISTORIC 2027 NFL Draft cycle. Subscribe to our channel and help us get to 75K! It helps us out a bunch. WE HAVE A DISCORD!!!!! JOIN HERE! https://discord.com/invite/PxSFVtWEwW https://discord.gg/PxSFVtWEwW?feature=description if the link doesn't work for you, just search 'NFLStockExchange' on discord and it'll pop up Follow us on X: https://x.com/NFLSEshow https://x.com/TampaBayTre https://x.com/ConnorJRogers We appreciate each and every one of you ADDICTS :) For business or other inquiries, reach us at [e-mail] Hosted by Simplecast, an AdsWizz company. See pcm.adswizz.com for information about our collection and use of personal data for advertising.

Holy volume, 13 player class. Oh, wait a second overall, same, Roger, number 27, Chris Johnson, which I identify as one of my favorite kids here. Biggs in second, third round me had three. They want a whole new team. Dude, Jeff Hathley's the man. Jeff Hapley's like one of those bosses who walks in and he's basically like, you guys are all morons. and he basically just cleans the entire staff. It's kind of how Coach Carter starts, right?

He walks in, he's like, oh, this is how we're going to do things. The starters lead the gym and then it's like, there goes out of two leading scores from last season, man. And Coach Carter just looks out of me, he goes, and I guess we'll have new leading scores this season. That's essentially what Jeff Hapley is doing. The NFL Stock Exchange podcast, another cold open. Just that is a chef kiss from Tyler, our producer.

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Give us a little bit of a subscribe there, you know? So make sure we do that. Connor, today we are back in the saddle to officially usher in what could be a historic draft class. Streets are calling it generational. Yeah, we watched all of it, by the way. All the summer scouting is today. all 280 players.

We're going on vacation the next two and a half months. So we decided, let's just cram the entire draft class the last 10 days. Here it goes. But yeah, the, you know what, I'll give it this? Because last year it did annoy me. Last year's class got overhyped, I thought, throughout summer scouting by a lot of people. This year, without us doing summer scouting yet, I feel like it's going to be semi-justified that this could be a banger.

I think so too. And what we're doing here on today's podcast, because if you guys have listened to the NFL Stock Exchange for multiple years, one, we appreciate you. We love you guys. If you're a new fan who's sticking around after you're discovering us through the 2026 cycle, we go through summer scouting where we go through position by position. We'll give you our early, you know, top fives, top eights, top tens, whatever it is. However, we, however girthy, we think that the class is at those certain positions.

And we will do a mock draft at the end. it. So a lot of people like right when, you know, the 2025 draft class ends, they have like a way too early 2026 mock. We don't do that because we don't like doing mock drafts of players that we genuinely have not watched. However, the 2027 class is so hyped up that we thought that it would be pretty fun to set the table with some names and some guys that might be in the first round. And thankfully, Dane Bruegler, the legend himself, the author of The Beast every single year, a true pioneer and pillar of the draft industry. He gives us a way too early mock draft. So we're going to go through Dane Bruegler's mock draft here today.

And fully transparent, there's going to be players on this list that I've barely watched that I've probably heard of, but even watching live. Certainly haven't studied them if they're first time draft eligible. But we will go through all of these names. We'll tell you what we know from them. and honestly, like, I'll probably pull up a couple of just bombs productions highlights while we're talking about players if I haven't watched him. And so that's going to be. That's going to be right. Me, Kyle Chanahan.

The head shake me, me and Kyle Chanian. That's what we're going to be doing here on this show. By the way, I do have to address the elephant in the room, which is the fact that Connor has a mustache now. Yeah, short-lived. I've been told by higher authorities that it can't be the newborn pictures when that day arrived. Start to solo cam We got the solo cam Considering that moment can happen

At any time Starting now Now that the draft's over I don't know if it's gonna make it Many more days So this is my one fun show Of the summer Here it is

Although actually After the newborn picks I can just do whatever I want No haircut They're shaving It's summer What can you What can you grow of a beard

Not a good one Not a good one You look like you got like goatee potential. No, I do, but I can't. That's just... Listen, I know I have a bad mustache, but a bad gutti is somehow worse. Can't do that. No, we might need it.

After the baby pictures, we might need the experiment. That's true. Until right before... Every dad face. Just try dad things. Until right before the baby is born, in which case your wife is going to be like, our son will never see you. you with that goate.

And so that might, yeah. By the way, the chat, you said the word girth and just unlock the new portal of the chat. Yeah, what? What? I thought it was great. Yeah, we're talking about, you know, how robust every position was going to be. The chat just loved, love the use of the word girth. So we're on fire already.

It's good to see everybody here. You know, there was a time, once upon a time, and not anymore. But when we did this podcast, it felt like we said many goodbye. after draft grades to like a large portion of the audience that was like, all right, can't wait to talk to you guys for next year's draft when that time comes. And now it's it. I truly do appreciate it that people are just buckled up for the ride.

The full year experience. Hell yeah, brother. The Space Mountain of NFL draft coverage. Wow. Great reference. I actually said, I actually had to explain that to the chef that there was once upon a time where we would do draft grades.

And then it was basically like, see you guys in a month because then the next episode that we would post would be summer scouting for quarterbacks. And obviously we'll get to summer scouting. Summer scouting is going to be the meat and potatoes of what you're going to get from this show during the summer. But it's fun. Honestly, like since we have gone live, we've said this ever since September when we started

going live for this show. It's fun. We miss you guys. It's fun to do. It's fun to log on and have a good time here. And we see some super chats already in the show. We'll be getting to super chat, some throughout the show. And then, of course, some at the end of the show as well.

as we kind of run through this entire mock draft. But let's get right to it. I don't think there's any other things that we have to address. No, it hasn't been that long. And I think we're, everything's good right now. So that's good. Let's do it. So we are going through Dane's entire first round mock draft.

But what you don't get here is the analysis from Dane, which Dane is very plugged in. Obviously, he has notes on players, you know, years even before they become draft eligible. So he's got a great baseline for. again, setting the table for what these players are going to be going into the 2027 class. So make sure that you guys are going to read the athletic and all of his great work over there. Make sure you're subscribe to it. Go read it for yourself. We're like we said, going to announce the names and the teams,

but the analysis is a very big part of sort of what this summer scouting is all about. He has the Arizona Cardinals picking number one overall, and he has them taking Archmanning. How do we feel about it, Connor? I think for the most part, this will be somewhat chalk this summer when you read a lot of early mock drafts. You're saying like,

I think Arch will be number one for a lot of preseason mock drafts. And you know, it's interesting, Trevor, because I notice a little PTSD style from fans of when they see Arch ranked so highly because understandably so, he was very hyped up last summer. and then instantly they got the Texas Ohio State game.

And he did struggle even after that. And then he played much better, deeper into the season and showed a lot of the tools of why he's been thought of as a top quarterback pick for a bit now. And so when they see this again, it's like, really, we're already diving in headfirst into this all over again? Yeah.

Arch was so interesting because I believe you and I both had him as QB1 going into last year's class. and then he comes out in the Ohio State game in week one, like you mentioned. One, he looked really rattled in a way that we didn't see that from him at all the previous season. Now, he wasn't a full-time start of the previous season, so that's sort of an obvious. You know, you're going into Ohio State. You're playing that defense in Columbus. It's rough.

But more important than that, like, his throwing motion was totally different. And it was different for the worse. Like, they clearly had sort of changed. his throwing motion a little bit during the spring and summer. And now he was getting live reps with it for the first time. And for the first, yeah, like six or seven weeks were so back. Like it just, it didn't look good from him. And it wasn't until the second half of the season or really the back third of the season

when you really started to get comfortable with that new throwing motion. And you started to see him play a lot better under pressure, utilize that mobility. And he was kind of like the quarterback that we thought that he was going to be. at the beginning of the year, it just took a little bit of time. It was also a really interesting situation because basically everybody in the archmanning camp was like, yeah, he's not declaring. And we were like, all right, well, he's draft eligible and his last name's Manning.

So we're kind of going to put him in the first round of mocks. And it was really weird of what to do with him. But now it feels like, okay, now he's a legitimate prospect. Now we actually get to analyze him for what he is going into a better year, I think. Yeah, I think so too. I think that, you know, obviously there's a lot of expectations of the town around him as well, and we'll get into some of that. But has a year starting under his belt, got more comfortable.

Getting better as the year goes on is so vital for guys looking to make the jump into what's their expected draft year. And I think that he was always going to be evaluated differently, not only because a lot of people were told how good he was going to be and maybe fell short of that early on before he turned the corner. But the second being that, like, yeah, he doesn't get the same ramp-up grace period that other quarterbacks get because of his last name, of course. So if he wasn't an instant star out of the gate, there was always going to be some skepticism.

And that'll be the case this year. Like there's huge expectations once again on Arch to play like the number one overall pick. And that's going to be difficult when you look at how much talent is in this class as we get right to number two, because number two is an NFL player today. Yeah. So number two is Jeremiah Smith, the wider zero from Ohio State. Number three, going to the Miami Dolphins. Number three is Dante Moore, the quarterback from Oregon going to the Cleveland Browns.

Your jets at four getting lettered more, the cornerback from Notre Dame. And then five, we've got Dylan Stewart, the edge rush here from South Carolina going to Robert Sal and the Tennessee Titans. I'm just bouncing around a little bit here. If the Tennessee Titans can somehow get Dylan Stewart, like any and all Carnell Tate at number four this past year, sins will have been completely forgiven. Like it won't matter. In solid scheme.

Yes. Just because this is your third down winner. This is your pin your years back. Get out to the quarterback. And you feel pretty confident about that in a four-man front. Dylan Stewart, we'll just start with him. and then we'll kind of work our way back to the other guys. But look, he's still, I think, got to get stronger,

not just from a play style perspective, but also a durability perspective. I'm worried about, you know, Dylan Stewart, I've seen him play in person. I was at the, I've been at a couple of South Carolina games, but the Clemson, South Carolina game was the most recent one that I saw. And he was playing through injury. I think he had like a hip injury.

But he's just, you look, at his frame and he's still just very lean he's he's a big dude but he's very lean and i think that he needs to put on some more weight to make sure that he can deal with the punishment of playing in the trenches at the NFL level but connor the way he bends and the way that he accelerates crazy up the arc it's i mean it's it's it's like von miller stuff man like it's it's crazy the things that his body can do when he is given the green light to totally just get after the pocket and rush the passer. So this is a truly, truly gifted prospect, but I do still think he needs to get a little bit

stronger. We have two guys in the top 10 that are like that. I won't give away the second one just yet. It'll be when we move to the next slide. But yeah, Stuart right now, he's a very, very unique mover. He's currently built like Will McDonald. I don't think he's going to enter the draft that size. like Will did, where Will was about 235, 240.

But definitely more of that tall, long, lanky kind of, but what that becomes flexibility and natural explosiveness and some really unique gifts as a pass rusher. What South Carolina have been listed at? Let's see. They have him listed at 245. There's no way. 645-245.

I bet he's closer to like 237. Yeah, I would think that. So, yeah, he's a really interesting player just on early watch of how he moves. A guy on this list, obviously, I've seen more of the Big Ten players from last year already. I mean, Jeremiah Smith is special. We have a long combo probably about him in a second. But Leonard Moore, it jumped off the screen last year. It really starting, not starting with, but one game where it was big time was the USC game.

because you got to see him against McCoy Lemon. Yeah. Leonard Moore is just, he has everything you want in a corner. He's big. He's got speed. He's physical. He's sticky. He's instinctual already for such a young player, I think.

He's someone where he's going to be in the conversation, as you see in Dane's mock draft here, is legitimately the best defender in a very good draft. Yeah, we're going to talk about him very similarly to what was Pat's measurals? Pat had to be what six one and a half? Yeah, I mean, it's going to be similar. No, so he was, or is this?

No, no, no, he was six foot two, 208 pounds. I knew he was heavy, yeah. So, I mean, they're going to be built, I think, very similarly. We're going to talk about Leonard Morris, like a Patrick Chirchan the second clone. Without a doubt. We really are. Jeremiah Smith at number two to the Miami Dolphins.

They still don't really have a long-term quarterback of the future. So, I mean, the pick of Jeremiah Smith over Dante Moore, I think says much more to, like, who Jeremiah Smith is, is potentially what a lot of people are comparing him to Julio Jones. That's sort of the comp that I see. Now, obviously, I've watched Jeremiah Smith while watching college football games live. And, like, yeah, he's an absolute animal. But I haven't put him under the microscope, like, as a true draft prospect. But anytime you get Julio Jones comps, I mean, that's, that is some serious high praise. but the way that he has built, the things that he could do,

I can at least understand being in that conversation. Because he's so physically dominant when you look at how he can kind of get on top of coverage with such instant speed and size. And it's very hard for defenders to match his sized physicality once he gets right on top of the coverage that he could either blow by you or he can make a play above you. He's just so gifted to finish plays. I think that's what impresses me early on the most with him

is that, yes, he's big, he's fast, he makes the spectacular play, but he's pretty natural at finishing plays. A lot of big wide receivers, whether it's the drops of the concentration, or they're not as natural because they're so big. It's not the case of Jeremiah Smith. Albert Scott in the chat saying when I was watching Xavier Watts, he, meaning Leonard Moore, popped up on the screen more than him, crazy work.

I mean, yeah, that's pretty wild. Dante Moore obviously going at number three overall. we talked about if he was in this past class, he probably would have gone number two overall to the New York Jets. So that's no surprise that we have there. I'm curious to see what happens for Dante Moore this year. He's not as physically talented as some of the quarterbacks behind him, but where I do think he would have went number two overall in this class,

but I'm curious how that decision looks in the long run. I think he's a good prospect, but I don't think he's as physically as impressive as some other guys. but we'll have longer combos about all that. All right, let's do six through ten. Let's get to the next group here that we have from Dan's mock. Okay, so Cam Coleman, the wide receiver who was at Auburn. Now he is at Texas with Arch Manning going number six overall to the Las Vegas Raiders,

giving them that true wide receiver one type of player. Cam Coleman, from what I have seen, is pretty special. If I remember correctly, he's a little bit slender in his build. And so I'm very curious to really turn on the tape with him and see like, Does he struggle with physicality? But I know the dude can fly. He's a smooth mover and he's a really, really good and athletic wide receiver. So him going to the Las Vegas Raiders.

Colin Simmons, the edge rusher from Texas, number seven to the New Orleans Saints. Drew Meskimer, the quarterback from North Texas, who is now at Oklahoma State, going number eight overall to the Pittsburgh Steelers to get their long-term quarterback. That's Drew Aller or Arrasher. But I guess we'll let it slide down. this time. Jordan Seaton, the offensive tackle from LSU, was a Colorado. He's the former five star. He was at Colorado. Now he's at LSU. And Amari Washington, the defense attack from Oregon, who I felt like Amari Washington would have been a top 20 pick in this past year's draft, but

ends up going back to Oregon. So here, Dane has him as a top 10 pick going to the Carolina Panthers. Where do you want to start with this group of five players? Colin Simmons was the other pass-a-sure I was talking about. That's not overwhelmingly big yet, but incredibly impactful. He's so explosive. Yeah. He, he, fits that mold once again a more lighter pass rusher but incredibly productive can't wait to see when i talked about arch's supporting cast cam coleman's a big part of that them getting him getting him a big wide receiver but i mean messemaker he didn't start in high school isn't this the most ridiculous story oh really yeah dude this was the big thing with him is that when he was a senior in high school

he was a backup to Deuce Adams, who was a commit to Louisville. And he just was the number two quarterback. And I believe he was the team's punter. And that was it. So he was basically a nobody recruit that walked on at North Texas. Is that not insane? That is pretty nuts. Kyle Trask was sort of the same thing.

because he was behind, who was it? Oh, is Deerick King? Wow. Yeah, he was behind Deerick King. And then I don't think he started in high school until maybe his senior year. No, he did not start any games at quarterback after his freshman year

as he served as the backup to Deerick King. So he was just the backup quarterback in high school. And then obviously, like, he's at four, Florida. He's not the starter right away. But then, you know, Trask eventually took over and they had, I mean, Trask lit it up in Dan Mullen's offense. So it's just kind of crazy. We see that. Meskemaker, I'm very intrigued to see what he's going to do this year, especially with the spotlight on him. From what I have seen, I do like him more than some of the other quarterbacks that were getting hype. Like CJ Carr is going to be in this list. I know for sure. And like Darien Mensa, I like Darian Mensa, too, who we like kind of talk. talked about him in the 2026 class and then he ended up going back to Miami.

But like, Messmaker has a better arm, I think, than both of those guys. Like I think, I think Meskemaker has at least a pretty legit NFL arm, which is why I kind of like am very intrigued by him when we get to quarterback summer scouting. Yeah, good on Oklahoma State for getting him and great on him for walking on North Texas and becoming this incredible story where he was a backup in high school to leading a 25 North Texas team to a 12 and 2 record. I mean, he's one of those like, oh, he could be the story of the draft. And we have such a long ways to go before we get there.

But it's incredible that that's on the table. Jordan Seton, the offensive tackle from Colorado who's now at LSU. Super interesting. Pretty insane athlete. And played right away. Played right away. Was he the number one overall player in his class? I know it was a huge deal.

when they got him because remember their whole criticism was that they had no offensive lineman so they went out and they got him in that recruiting class he started as a left tackle right away in 2004 uh to you know obviously block for shader that year right so he was pretty good like when we watched colorado that year he he was a big improvement as even as a freshman so he was a five star with he was at i mg he was the 13th overall player in 247's database but he was the one offensive tackle. So they signed the number one offensive tackle in the country for that year with with Jordan Seaton. Yeah. So I'm excited to actually watch his tape. Dude, so explosive. So explosive. And I don't know if you've seen like pictures of him, but like at LSU, he seems as

though he's really honed in the diet and the strength and conditioning and all that. Like he just, he is a very built, whatever it is, 305, 310, whatever, whatever weight he's at officially now at LSU. but he looks even more athletic than what he was at Colorado, which is really saying something that because I think he was a crazy athlete. Mori Washington, that first step explosiveness, I mean, the NFL is going to be all over it. Yeah, it's limiting the lows, right? Yes, he had a lot of highs and lows on tape.

Yes. I thought it was good a move that he went back. I agree. And to me, I think that he has the potential to be a top 10, top 12-ish overall pick now that he is going back because, yeah, I mean, again, just the first step explosive was nuts with him. But I felt like he was kind of all over the place when it came to some run defense stuff and just the highs and lows in his tape.

But I am excited about him. All right. Move on 11 through 15. Yeah, 11 through 15. Oh, do we get Charlie Becker in here? Let's go. At 11. I haven't seen this yet.

So this is new to me. Charlie Becker, the wide receiver from Indiana, which as Indiana was going through their college football playoff run, everybody was just saying. saying, hey, you know, cool, Ligis Rats great. Oh, Omar Cooper Jr.'s cool. Charlie Becker is the best one of them all. And there's maybe reason to believe that that is the case. I'm very curious to see what life is going to be like now that he is the man at Indiana.

But wait, who's Indiana's quarterback now? Didn't they get a notable one? Didn't they get the TCU quarterback? Oh, what's his name? Josh Hoover. Hoover, yes. Yes, which I'm kind of excited about because I liked Hoover a couple of, thank you, chat, a couple of games into the 2025 season, but he kind of fell off consistency-wise.

But I'm intrigued with him. Trevor Goosby, the offensive tackle from Texas, I did not like him at all when we went through summer scouting. And then as the year went on, he got way better, way better. So excited to see what he, what, you know, he kind of turns into and what we think of him this time around in summer scouting. Jamari Johnson, the tight end from Oregon going even higher this year. Then Kenyon Sadiq did, which is interesting. Ahmad Motton Sr., the defense tackle from Miami.

He was one of the last guys that I was getting to right around the declaration date. And I remember watching him. And I went, okay, top 50, no question about it. And that was without even like a deep dive study into him because I was sort of. waiting for him to officially declare. He goes back to Miami, but he's another dude who's insanely strong and could absolutely be a top 20 pick, I think. And then C.J. Carr, the quarterback from Notre Dame, that people have a lot of high hopes

that he could take that next step this year. Dane has him going 15 overall to the, to the Jets here. This is one of the groups. I feel like I've seen the most of. I didn't watch any tape of Gooseby last year. I do remember you talking about him. Jamarie Johnson had a lot of Renner I know Renner loved him

towards the end of the process like Renner was like this dude should declare because he might be a first round pick I'm excited to watch his tape for tackles then Johnson of course had plenty of times they're like is this the best tight end on Oregon this year I mean the whole Miami defensive line was absolutely dominant

Becker size and speed probably underappreciated in the recruiting process just a three star but he won state championships in the 110 meter hurdles. So, yeah, Becker, he's from Nashville, but Becker size, speed, ball skills, really excited to talk about him during wide receivers. Carr is one of the only guys, because obviously we do quarterbacks first, that I'm pretty

much done with. I did watch Carr. And, okay. You know, obviously at NBC, we have Notre Dame pregame, so I've done a couple of those shows, got to watch a lot of the Notre Dame offense last year. There's a lot to like with C.J. Carr, man, there really, really is, especially when you kind of hone in on that he was a red shirt freshman last year. I mean, he to me is already at his age, a pretty low effort thrower. I like the timing, the accuracy. He's got the natural loft to put the ball over linebackers, but kind of tuck it away from the over-the-top coverage.

There's plenty of times where you get to see him hit the intermediate out route from the opposite hash. you turn on the NC State game. He got to make a lot of big throws in that. He's getting better at learning how to climb the pocket rather than a lot of young quarterbacks drift out of it. He had a 94th percent out of sack rate, which is a tip your cap to Notre Dame's protection last year. I thought they did a really good job.

And their ability to run the ball also naturally protects the quarterback, but still a 2.5% sack rate. Like, that's phenomenal for a young quarterback. But, you know, the combos we'll have with him is, I think the playmaking and speed is below average. I thought some of the in breaking over the middle stuff, he lost accuracy on, stairs down, some throws for some bad turnovers. But yeah, I mean, overall, there's a lot to be excited about with Carr as a pocket

passer in this class, I thought. I know a lot of people are very excited with him. Did you, I'm, because I was looking up Ahmad Moten highlights, which my God, what an animal? Yeah. But what did you think about his arm? Did you talk about his overall arm strength there? Did I miss that?

What do you think? Yeah, yeah, yeah. I thought it was good. Okay. Not like, it's funny because the quarterback I watched before him was Brandon Sorsby. Oh. Who just has a stupid arm. Yeah, Sorsby's got an NFL arm.

Sorsby's got high-end NFL arms. Some would say even a supplemental draft type of an arm. Yeah, yeah. Some, many are saying. Many are saying. I think it's going to conclude that way, which is going to make for a very interesting time for this channel specifically, because we've never covered a supplemental draft. I can't wait to do a supplemental mock draft.

Yeah, one player. It'll be a 90-second show. The first mock draft, only one of us gets the pick. All right, Connor, you want to pick odds or? You want to pick or do you not pick at all today? Yeah, Sorsby. When you watch Sorsby, it's just, he's just dripping with traits. It's everything else that's not where it needs to be.

The supplemental draft concept is fascinating, Because unless they change something about it, because they haven't really done it in a handful of years. It needs updating. It's essentially just an auction fantasy draft. Yeah. Like they're a real human. That's basically what it is. Yeah.

Because the way that it has been described to me is that it's basically just an email, right? Where the league will email everybody in the league and they'll go, all right, the supplemental draft is open. And then Schaeffield will tweet out like five minutes later. And that concludes the supplemental draft for the 2025 like summer or whatever. And like nobody got picked because nobody submits anything. So I actually need to do some more research into it now that it's going to matter and matter a lot for this year. But it's kind of just it's sort of like an open bidding. It's like, okay, the supplemental draft is open.

Anybody want to use a first round pick on a player? Because the way that it goes is if you, is it, is it, is it, the immediate next year or is it the year that follows that you lose a draft pick it's the next draft it's the immediate draft i'm pretty sure yeah okay because it basically they'll go all right is anybody we want to use the first round pick on anybody and it's kind of just this giant game of chicken then because if you don't say like yeah i'll use the first round pick on brandon sorsby or whatever and somebody else goes yeah i'll use the first round pick on brandon sorsby they get them They just get the draft.

And I don't know what the tiebreaker is. They rock paper, scissors for it. There's some kind of, do they arm wrestle? No, it's a very convoluted way they do the order. Did you, do you know who the last supplemental draft pick was? Was it Sam Beale? No, that was my guess. We were talking about this on Badlands earlier today.

My guess was Beale. It was the year after that. This player just got a contract in free agency this year. Very successful supplemental draft pick. Was it Jalen Thompson? It was Jalen Thompson. There it is, baby. Yeah.

Don't ever tell me I don't know supplemental ball. Don't anybody. I live for the supplemental draft. Yeah, the problem is they, that it's so weak. We got to come up with a way better tiebreaker for the supplemental draft. It should be skill-based. 100% some kind of game that the coaches or GMs have to play.

Like, Imagine, like imagine it's Darren Mugi and Mati Asimport had to play like Super Smash Bros for the top of the third round. Oh, now you're speaking my language, baby. I mean, this would be, you're telling me this wouldn't do numbers? Brother, we would be watchalonging the shit out of Darren Mousie versus Monty Austin for Super Smash Brothers for the right to get Brendan Sourning. Shoresby.

Shoresby's in the crowd. They've got it to like, they bring it back to Radio City Music Hall. Like they're doing it in Radio City. It's a packed out, packed house. I mean, think of the gauntlet you could make to decide the supplemental draft tiebreakers. What it needs, one is a hot dog eating contest would be better. I think we do a gauntlet, though. So one is gaming.

One is physical, whether that's test of strength. See, you should be able to get your whole front off. staff involved in this? Yeah. Right? Because then that would go into some of the hires, you know? Like if you knew that arm wrestling was one of the categories for the supplemental draft, then you got to get Tyson Bejan's dad just to be, you know, make sure that he's

like a consultant or something, you know, like in the front office staff. Tyson Bayesian's dad is hired as an area scout and it's literally just through the arm wrestling portion of the supplemental draft tiebreaker. Yeah, this is, this is fascinating. What it, what would be the bet? You said Super Smash Brothers. I see people in the chat are saying, you know, 1V1 on Rust, a class. Of course. That's the classic way to do it.

Jay Monkey said rap battle. I hope not. That would be painfully awkward. Have you guys watched Mugi speak before? I don't know if rap battle would be entertaining. Oh, like free throw contest, you know? Free throw contest is a really, really good. Because there's so much pressure.

Yes. Very basic. It basically challenges that any human should be able to, in theory, do a hot dog eating contest yeah it fits the mold it's not pretty though yes see peter in the chat saying dance dance revolution that's actually that's that's insane bull putting challenge yeah yeah guitar hero oh man guitar three no you got to do rock band so you're like your VP of personnel or your head coach needs to be on the drums right right right Michael floor you are on the drums for awesome for it today. See, I like the team. I like the team aspect here. This is good. This is good.

We're evolving here. Oh, man. Rock band. Rock band's a great one because the whole staff has to get involved. And you are just sweating, crapping yourself, knowing that if you miss this high hat beat on the drums, Brendan Sorski is going to be throwing tuddies for the other team. And you're going to be sitting here with Gardner Minchew or Carson Beck. Oh, man. And I can't. imagine more pressure than that. Michael Ford just totally screwing up Enter Sandman on the drums and Monty Osport having a meltdown on the mic.

He's screaming at him. Just screaming. He made the lyrics. Perduski said a flip cup tournament, which you could expand that to just an adult beverage Olympics. The whole facility needs to flip a cup. Yeah.

I saw somebody in the chat. I think it was oatmeal cookie. was like, what is the show even about anymore? Welcome to Summer, pal. Hold on. What are you talking about? Yeah. We're getting to the, we're, people, oh, this, oh, this show's so off the rails.

We're talking about what needs to be talked about for the supplemental draft. Yeah, we're fixing it. We're making improvements to the league. Fix your franchise, but it's the NFL. It's the whole league. It's the whole operation. Make no mistake. Don't let the NFL fool you.

They want everything to be entertainment, where I'm actually. wondering, are they going to one day adopt a lottery just so it's another marquee televised event? Not because it's a good idea. Because as a New York Rangers fan, I'm dreading the lottery this week as we end up losing pick three to go all the way down to number five or something stupid. But, but, hey, it could be worse. You could have lost in the first round for the fourth year in a row. Yeah, that's in a game seven in which you had an 85.5% chance of winning that game. Yeah. That was a tough one. I don't even like hockey.

No, you love it. No, I've never watched. Montreal is going to be a problem for a long time. I'm not going to lie, for the first time I am very nervous about them for the next eight years. McDavid's going to love Tampa. That's all I'm saying. Would you be shocked? Connor McDavid's going to love Tampa.

It makes so much sense on so many levels as their core ages out. And then he just goes to play for Cooper and, oh boy. Yeah, we don't have to go there. See, now we got off the rail. for sure. But anyways. We do hockey every summer a little bit. Yeah, a little bit.

This is about the time. You remember three, what was it? Three, four years ago? Yeah. I was the Rangers. Rangers played the lighting in the, what was that? Was that the ECF?

Yeah. Yeah. Broke me. That was tough. That was tough. That was tough times for the pod. Yeah, I just, it was about the last time.

One of my teams, it felt like, was in meaningful games. Even though they were in the ECF two years after that, They were never beating Florida. I've said this. I've said this before, but I still have nightmares of Sean McDonough

just saying the name Zabandajad. Yeah, on the power play. That's a classic. Okay, let's go 16 to 20 here, back on the rails with Dane Brugler's way too early mock draft. KJ Bolden got top 20? Georgia has a few guys, I think. Dude, Bolden's awesome.

I love KJ Bolden. He's a stud. I didn't know. We were thinking about him top 20, but I think KJ Bolden's a stud. So he's got him going to the Jaguars there at 16. Cincinnati Bengals at 17. Jacarius Peak, the offensive tackle from South Carolina, which I don't know him. I got to familiarize myself with this.

The Chicago Bears, Peter, are you paying attention? Chicago Bears is number 18. Kelly Jones, the cornerback from Mississippi State. 19, your jets for the third time. Will Echols, the defensive tackle from old. this. Damn. And then the Dallas Cowboys at number 20, Nick Marsh, the wide receiver, who is now

in India. I didn't, I don't think I was about to say that real confidently, but I don't think I realized that Nick Marsh transferred from. Marsh is sick. Michigan State to Indiana. And in Michigan State just couldn't utilize him the way he needed to be. I think he's going to explode for Indiana. Yeah, he's got a insane potential for Signetti.

By the way, Pete, because I was kind of. you know, scratching my head there. He was on NC State last year. I was like, I watched a lot of South Carolina's offensive line. Okay, okay, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. You're right, right, right, right. So I was like, what? So it makes sense that he's a transfer.

Yes, okay. Much needed help for Lenora Sellers. Yeah, 100%, which we haven't seen Lenora Sellers' name yet. So he is, he's a redshirt senior, so he's a grad transfer. So he could have been eligible in last year's draft, but I don't remember talking about him. Yeah, 6-4-298, so that's probably why, a little smaller. Wow.

Wait, where do you have him 298? South Carolina's got him at 310. Oh, they did the classic transfer roundup. Yeah, they might have. They might have. Yeah, NC State had him listed at, well, ESPN had him listed for NC State at 298.

Oh, no. Then he got his weight up. Wait, somebody said that Charias Peak tour his ACL. Is that recently? Or was that why he wasn't, in like last year's class type of the thing. Yeah, he's playing. I thought he's playing this year.

Jacarius Peak is an all pro name. Yes, that's an amazing name. That is correct. When did he tear his ACL? Oh, no. Kne injury that could have... Oh, he could miss a lot of the season. Oh, he is...

No, he is the one who suffered the injury in February. I remember there was news back in like January and February that someone had got hurt. on South Carolina's line, did not realize it was him. So Beamer spoke about this at the end of February. He said, oh, miss the spring, duh. He's not going to be fully cleared in the summer, duh. But fully anticipates him being ready to roll when September rolls around.

That's early. What do they cut off his leg and give him like a vibranium leg like in the winter soldier? Good for your career. What did they do to be here? Wow. Yeah. So I guess we will see him play this year. If he's ready anywhere near September, that's,

actually a stock up because the elite athletes recover very quickly. Yeah, that'd be awesome if he's back. We hope he is. I have not seen Kelly Jones play. Oh, I haven't either. You know what that, you know what that means. It's time to go to, it's time to go to the highlight reel live on the show. Just bombs.

We're heading immediately to Just Bombs here. Okay, wait, six foot four. Wow. This kid's huge. wait a minute all right gifted interceptions the first play what do we have for the second play here

all right press coverage thank goodness we've actually got him in the alignment he needs to be in dude this kid looks huge yeah he's a cyborg okay this kind of feels like hmm

all right already have a little bit of questions on long speed with him oh boy that was fast yeah I mean we're three plays in and I'm a little bit worried He's a little Thoreau-Davis-y to me. Okay.

Let's see. What's the official measurables here? 64-195. What year is he is? He's a junior. He's a redshirt junior. Had 17 starts last year. He looked a little Tariot Davis to me.

Well, Chad said he had a big matchup against Jordan Tyson, so that'll be a fun summer scouting watch. Okay. That'll be cinema. All right. All right. Yeah. Okay.

Cody said to Trevor's point about elite athletes, uh, aunt just came. back a week after hyper extending his knee. Ant's already back after that? That is crazy. This time of year. You got to lock in.

Yeah, you just do whatever you can, even if you're like 40%. I love, I love Anthony. He is unbelievable. He is so much fun. Anything else? Yeah. So Marsh is going to be awesome. I really, really do think that.

Yep. Eccles, I expect to be more disruptive this year. I think it's there for him to, I was looking at his pass rush win rate. It was only 5.7%, but I feel like there's enough mini flashes there where he could hopefully take that jump. So that's it from this group.

He had 11 tackles for loss last year, five sacks. He's a big dude. I mean, I'm just watching a little bit of his film right here. I mean, I remember seeing flashes of him. Man, I mean, he's quick for a big dude. There's no doubt about it. Like watching him, I was like, I think he's going to have a much better pressure rate.

Yeah. I can already tell the pad level seems like it's going to be an issue for him. But he's super quick off the ball. And I think any time that you have quickness at that kind of size of defensive tackle, it's somebody that's worth noting there. All right. 21 through 25

That's right Another Georgia defensive back Ellis Robinson Who was Man I feel like I have really liked What I've seen from him Over the last couple of years I think he didn't he get

Didn't he start as a true freshman I think he has been playing for Has been starting for multiple years So Ellis Robinson the fourth The corner of Georgia going 21st overall The Denver Broncos Jaden Baugh the running back from Florida, the first running back off the board

to the Houston Texans at 22. Jaden Mayava, the quarterback from USC going to the Detroit Lions at 23. How do you say this name? Is it Tuioti? Is it how you say it? I don't know. By the way, Alice Robinson didn't play in 2024.

I thought he played. So he only started, he started last year. But I thought he was, there was a lot of moments where I was like, this guy looks better than Dailin Everett. Yeah, maybe they were just speaking very high. of him because he was a young cornerback who was already starting. 2DOD, yeah, I guess that sounds right for how his name is spelled out. And then this one I'm super excited about it.

25 overall, Damon Wilson the second, the edge rusher from Miami. He was at Missouri last year. And he was draft eligible. Technically, he was draft eligible last year. And I remember watching a little bit of him and thinking, okay, there is absolutely something here. Like he has the first step explosiveness, he has the athletic ability. He just hadn't put it all together when it came to like total pass rush plans.

He's going to the perfect spot with Jason Taylor. I would not be shocked if this turns out to be one of the better edge rushers in the class. Just because of the flashes that I saw from him at Missouri and then knowing that he is going to the best defensive line coach in all of college football in Jason Taylor down at Miami. I'm super excited for him to be there. Yeah, it's a great move for him because like you said, especially I remember early portion of last year, like the first half of the season. He was having some pretty monster performances.

Tatum 2 EOT, on Oregon. Okay, that's how you say his first name, Tatum. Yeah. So, yeah, this is a, it goes to show you once again. Like, we've already gone through two pass rushers in the top 10, and then two pass rushers on this group of five alone, another good looking group early on. Jaden Baugh is an absolute stud.

Good running back class, it looks like. It's a crazy running back class. He is like 225, 230 pounds, but he's got some serious explosiveness. He is super powerful. He is an NFL back through and through. There's no doubt about it. I mean, Amad Hardy could potentially be in this class as well.

Yep. He won Lacey from Old Miss. Like, it looks like it could be a serious running back class. And I wonder if we get a couple more that we have in here. Yeah, no nor sellers yet. Yes, in this mock draft that we have here. What do you think about that overall? Before we get to the next

crop of players. What do you think? I'm fine with that. I think Sellers did not take a single step last year from what I watched over summer. And I get some of it was not his fault because I think things around him could have been a lot better. But he's just still so far away. He's just a great athlete and a gifted player that is still trying to be able to process at that speed. To be fair, there's plenty of quarterbacks probably that'll show up on this or a lot of lists that are the same way, but he's a day two project right now to me. Somebody in the chat said, are we sure that Sellers is good? No, we're not sure, but he is extremely physically gifted.

But, Trev, like, if anyone wants to hear us on Sellers from last summer, Trevor and I were not sitting here telling you Lenore Sellers was a first round quarterback last summer. We were actually like, wow, that was really disappointing. I hope he's really good this year. Joe in the chat says Shameless plug for the NFLSE Discord. I suggested some post draft content for everyone to consider

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but not shocking LSU has restocked talent for the top of this draft again. I think you say his last name, Laloolu, the center from Oregon, who I did like him coming into the season last year, but then the hype kind of died out a little bit for him, and so it makes sense that he's back. But Dane has him number 27 here in the first round to the San Francisco 49ers, which is interesting. T.J. Moore, the wide receiver from Clemson. Yeah.

next on the list and not Ryan Williams from Alabama, who's going 32 to the Los Angeles Rams. Interesting. I'm not familiar with T.J. Moore's game. No, somebody that I need to watch a lot more of, get it. Just watch so much of that offense last year, though. I feel like when I watch his tape, I'm going to be like, oh, I've seen this a million times.

because when you think about it for that offense, he had to watch all a Clubnik, you had to watch all of Antonio Williams, you had to watch all of Blake Miller, all of Adam Randall. So I feel like he definitely popped plenty of times. Somebody in the chat saying is Mensa in the draft, he considered 2028.

Mensa would be eligible for this draft. So yes, he would have been in this exercise. So no Darien Mensa, no Lenora Sellers, no DJ Lagway, but there wasn't going to be DJ Lagway. He was terrible last year at Florida. Now he's at Baylor. Oh, no Julian Sayan as well.

Yeah, that might be a surprise. I know that Max and Dalton, the preferred walk-on guys, they really like saying a lot. They think the accuracy is good enough to like overcome what is maybe a little bit of lesser arm talent. I don't want to put words in their mouth, but they're big fans of Julian Sane and just the way that he operates, the accuracy that he played with.

It felt like he was deadly last year. And so I know that they're big fans of him. But I understand, like, some people are saying like, hey, does saying have an NFL caliber arm? Does he have that NFL caliber build? So I think that's why we don't see him in this first round mock is because Dane and I'm sure other people around the NFL just maybe have questions about the overall size. Definitely. I'll say this. Will help.

Another Clemson guy shows up on this list. Yep. He might have been the best player in their front seven last year. Yeah, he had a really good year. I did not like him. When he was at Purdue, I felt like he just played way too high for a defensive lineman. He's six, six, naturally. But he's almost six, seven even.

But there's, you're farming today in unethical ways. Unethical six, seven farming. You're using unethical pesticides. But he, I think he played a lot better this past year. So I'm excited to dig back in. 29 was Amad Hardy, the running back from Missouri, who we mentioned, you know, has that first round potential. I actually have a ticket for him to win Heisman next year that I feel like I got a pretty good number.

And the David Stone, the defensive tackle from Oklahoma at 31 of the Buffalo Bills, I have not watched him. No, I'll definitely need to, once again, though, another defense that you watch naturally watch so much tape of during this draft season because we thought Heineke would be in the draft, Armeson Thomas, Grayson Halton. So it's funny when you turn on the tape,

you're like, I've seen this guy a million times. I just never actually focused on him. although same can't be said for Ryan Williams we've watched a lot of him that is true we have watched a lot of Ryan Williams and Williams I get worried that he's just a speed guy like that he's just a slender speed guy he to me has to really evolve who he is as a route runner to create separation that's not just vertical separation because he was he was not reliable at the catch point last year either a lot of frustrating drops very poor and contested

catch situation. So, yeah. I mean, he was borderline brutal last year, in my opinion. You know, I know he had been tracked with 10 drops. He didn't finish plays. He disappeared against some high, high end opponents. I mean, I think of like the Tennessee game, he was good. And down the stretch, he was, it was a real problem for this Alabama team.

He's got to refine, he's got to refine a lot of things. to finish more plays. It was just, it was wild, man. I was, I guess my expectations were thinking star. And I thought he was almost a detriment at times of their offense. It felt like, Ty got to the point where he's like, I got to find Jeremy Bernard or Josh Kovas because Ryan Williams is not finishing plays for me.

Uh, would love to hear some shoutouts from you guys in the chat of players who did not make it in this round one mock draft. Do you think have a chance to be drafted in round one? 18 is saying that David Stone will be the best defensive tackle, defensive tackle one here. I saw Peter say this a little bit earlier. Coy P. Rich, I believe it's how you say his last name.

The safety who is at Minnesota and now he is at Oregon. He's a stud. Yeah. So he was not in here, but I know a lot of people like him. Oh, AJ in the chat scene, Omarian Miller, the wide receiver from Colorado. Of course. When I watched him for wide receiver rankings. Dude, and I thought, was he top five for me?

He might have been five for me, five or four. I think, I think that O'Marian Miller would have been a top 50 player. Like, he could have been a first round player in last year's draft. I thought he was awesome. His acceleration with him without the ball was like, oh, this guy can move, stop and start, change a direction. Just a very naturally gifted move. For big play threat, 18 yards per reception, 2025. I see in the chat from 18 on 96.

of Quincy Rhodes. We watched a lot of Quincy Rhodes last year from Arkansas. Yep. He has some nasty moves for kind of a big end player. He's going to be interesting to project a full-time home for him. Ian Strong, too. I was really intrigued by Ian Strong, the wide receiver from Rutgers. Did he stay at Rutgers?

I thought he did. I think they gave him an N I LD. No, he's a cow. Oh, he did. move. Wow. He transferred to Cal. I was so sure he was going to be in the draft. I did a Big Ten tape breakdown on him during the season. Yeah. And then he went back and yeah, I guess he got a good bag from Cal. Mateo Uiunglalai as well, who was in last year's class, but he didn't declare.

Nick Harbor, which is the freak athlete from South Carolina. Every year. Obviously, yeah, I mean, we've been talking about Nick Harbor for four years now, but Yonza Pierre, the edge rusher from Alabama, I am very intrigued by him. Oh, the chats told me that's Perich. Parich is how you say his last name. Tay Johnston, who is the safety at Utah,

who I was very intrigued by. He is now at Notre Dame, I guess. I didn't realize that. And Daniel shouted out Austin Serafeld. Serafeld had to play tackle, but I'm very high on him as a guard prospect. Very high on him. Oh,

Ohio State if people haven't seen Sarfeld. I'm talking about somebody who's different. No, I know. I was just shouting out the chat. No, no, no, no, no, no. Sorry. I'm saying, I'm saying Tay Johnson is different than who was I thinking of? Who's the safety from Utah, what kind of liked?

I don't know. Oh, who was it? Man. Chat, help him out. T. Hey, O. Johnson. Okay. I can see how that happened.

Yes, Tay Johnson and Taye O'Connell. Yeah, Austin Saraville, which you mentioned there. John Henry Daly, who, where did he transfer to? The defensive lineman from Utah who is tearing it up. Oh, he's in Michigan now. Oh, wow. Interesting. Albert in the chat saying, A.J. Harris, my boy, who, yeah, had a terrible year this past season.

I'll say this for Nick Harbor, because we kind of laugh because it's like, this is the year for Nick Harbor. Although we almost thought he should just be a pass rusher. I mean, it's too late now. No, no, no, it's too late now. He did have 30 catches for 618 yards last year in a passing offense that was not fun to watch. So, I mean, Nick Harper is getting more and more productive every year. Maybe this really is the year for him. Am I blanking?

The chat is spamming Nate Frazier. Any particular reason they're spamming Nate Frazier? Who is a Nate Frazier? Who is a Nate Frazier? Georgia? Running back. Oh, they're running back. Right.

Yeah, very productive in the touches he got last year. Yeah, wow. Yeah, he had almost 1,000 yards. 5.5 yards per carry average. Yeah, and had some big games when it mattered the most. Yeah. I mean, Trinidad Chambliss. Of course, Trinidad Chamblis.

Yeah. Chats Chowling out, C.J. Bailey as well. He's the quarterback for NC State. Was he at NC State last year? He wasn't NC State last year. Hey, how about our guy, Cleve Lubin? Oh, hell yeah, baby. What a name.

Cleve Lubin coming off an eight and a half sack season after a nine and a half sack season. I can't remember who it was. But somebody at the combine on offensive line day didn't remember his name. But when I asked the toughest rusher they went against, they were thinking of him. They were saying him. And in my brain, it was like, Clemloobin. There is. Yes.

So Clemloon was, yeah. I'm excited to watch Cleve Lubin in his junior year. Caden Green, the offensive lineman from Missouri. Is he still in Missouri? God, this is the time of year. I'm just like, are these guys still at their school? He is still there. Well, this is the problem now.

It takes as long to scout these guys as to lay the ground floor of where everybody is. Remember Kevin Coleman last year? It's like Kevin Coleman's at his fourth school. And he's been good at all of them, but he just keeps transferring. Oh, it's very true. And then this is the last one. Sam Levitt. Sam Levitt is, I think, a big one with Sam Levitt going from Arizona State over to LSU.

I think Sam Levitt, look, Sam Levitt has the tools, in my opinion, to be a first-round caliber guy. I think he's got NFL-level arm strength. He's got good mobility to him. To me, he is more of a souped-up version of John Mateer. Like, I think he plays like John Mateer, but he's got an NFL-caliver arm. And I'm not so sure that John Matier has an NFL caliber arm. But Levitt's all over the place, man. I mean, he is a loose cannon without his threat.

And so, like, he's absolutely got to hone so much of that in before we start to talk about him in the first round. Oh, yeah, Isaac Brown as well, running back from Louisville. Your guy, Nikki Prongos, the tackle from Stanford. Yeah, baby. Excited to scout him. Yeah, I remember you were. You were pumped about him late in the year and then he ended up going back to school. Yeah, Drake Lindsay at Minnesota, too, and a lot of people like him.

Man, there's a lot of names. I mean, we just did a full first round draft. and obviously there's an overflow of so many of those names. So it's going to be fun. Summer scouting is going to be awesome. And like I said, if you're not subscribed to the show, please be subscribed. You know, make sure that you guys are coming back,

joining the addicts, joining for the live streams. We have a lot of fun on here. But yeah, man, it's going to be a blast getting through all of summer scouting this year because it feels like we're going to go, it feels like we're going to go deeper on these classes than we ever have because there's just going to be so many names that we want to get to for so many of these positions. So yeah, man, I'm excited about this one.

want to super chat it up yes um lay out let's get to the superchash we don't even have to do that we don't even have to do this after the show we'll do it in the show we'll do it live we'll do it live we'll do it live we'll do it live the first ones mahala gave us a ten dollar super chat said gilf stash hell yeah give me a couple weeks technically not to grow the stash i'm just not a dad yet yeah right i can actually be a dad oh man Not to grow this dad. She should actually become a dad. That's it. I got to actually be the dad. Nemo Sports.

It would be fun to see you react to your own first mock drafts of the 2026 class and compare them to the actual draft. I love this idea. That would be fun. I'm not going to rule it out. I'm not going to rule it out. Maybe we do that over the next couple of weeks before we get into summer scouting. Yeah.

That could be, that could be really cool. Gary gave us $5. What's up? Phytoplankton. Insane. I hope y'all are ready for the new Saints offense. Trevor, looking at you, Shuckima. P.S. The Bird was absolutely alleged for the draft.

Well, which, hold on, you can see in Garrett's profile picture that it is the NFLSC hat at the draft in Pittsburgh. So an incredible representation of the addicts. We absolutely love that. Thank you so much, Garrett, for representing the pod there in Pittsburgh for the draft. Saints offense could absolutely cook. That offensive line is fantastic. I like what Kellamore does on the offensive side of things when it comes to a play call and play design perspective.

And now they don't just have Chris Olive. They got Jordan Tyson. They got Bryce Lance. They got Oscar Delp to throw into the mix as well. They got Travis A. Chan. Or wait, Travis A. Chan. I got it. I got it.

Alvin Kamar is still there for now. I mean, yeah, they could cook. They could absolutely cook. Yeah, I'm kind of in on the Saints right now. lots of like. Richard McKinney. Finally able to sneak onto a stream during work. I work for the federal government.

Longtime subscriber, third time live watcher. You guys are awesome. So are you, Richard. Hopefully, don't get the CIA on our ass, though. Yeah, yeah. You say where he works in the government. We don't know. You know, could be anything.

Roberto says, Connor seems like a sick soul patch guy. No. Just get a nice little soul patchy guy. Like Chris Cornell style. rest in peace. I don't, uh, no, can't do it. You'd immediately have to be in the, in the rock band competition. Yeah, then I, then I would, you know, for this on the mental draft. Then I would actually pick up the guitar to play in Montiassim for its rock band with Michael Flore on drums. Amazing. Imagine if you've never watched this show and that's the first thing you hear. You're like,

what in the hell is wrong with these people? Stick around. It gets worse. It does. It absolutely does. Uh, Zura gave us spot our super chat said, uh, early sleeper that, uh, Jeremiah Smith could, Jeremiah Smith guy from Ohio State could be a good prospect. Well, good call. I like that on the sleeper list. Yeah.

Okay. Oh, here. Mand, you want this one? Yeah, yeah, yeah. Yeah, start bench cut. Calling any prospect named Max Mad Max, comping tall wide receivers to Mike Evans or comping mid-quarterbacks to Kirk Cousins.

JD5 MVP soon. Hail to the commanders. Love y'all. Wow. Oh, okay, this is great. Okay, so it's start bench cut, chat. I want you guys in on this as well. The first one is calling any prospect name Max Mad Max.

The second one is comping any tall ride wide receiver to Mike Evans. And then the third one is comping any mid-quarterback to Kirk. Do you have an immediate start that you go to? Yeah, the Mike Evans one is timeless. See, I think the Kirk Cousins one is timeless. I think every, because I personally get offended when everybody says like, oh, he's tall. He reminds me of Mike.

Evan, shut up. No, it's awful, but that's why it's funny. And I love that our audience, which I was truly so thankful for, they have done a masterful job of making fun of it. That's why it's so funny. No, I do. Yeah, the chat has been unbelievable with it. Our chat just calls everything the Mike Evans of and it's hilarious. Lou said this is the Mike Evans of start bench cut. There you go. It's non-stop. So I have to start that one because yes, it is by far the worst thing to do, but that's what makes it the funniest aspect. Okay, you might be right. And I think the chat seems to very much agree with you as well. So I'm going to say that I'm starting the Kirk Cousins comp. I'll bench that one. The Mike Evans comp, and then I'm cutting the Mad Max one.

Yeah, we usually try to be more creative with our nicknames. Yeah, because obviously, I mean, Mad Max is, we know who it is. We all know who. To me, it's Max Scherzer. Oh, I was going to say Max Brousmer, obviously. Yeah, he's crazy. Now it's Max Breitzen. That was one of the worst interceptions I've ever seen last year. Now it's Max Breedison because he's in the league and he's a fullback. All right.

I guess we are. We're doing that we're literally doing the thing. That one actually checks out. Yeah. Shane game is $5 Super Chat said, I will be irresponsibly high on Drew Meska maker. And nobody can stop me. Except him if he's bad, I guess.

I like that. Yeah. Uh, Yusuf said, what's up, small fries? Are there any reasonable flaws in Jeremiah Smith's game? Or is he really that different of a receiver's prospect? I would stick around for,

summer scouting for the full breakdown. Because right now everything is the highs. Right. For me. Right now I'd tell you no. Right now I would say he looks freaking sick and I don't have anything. I don't find anything wrong in his game. Yeah.

It's hard to watch Jeremiah Smith from a just like live game perspective and not think that this guy is just going to be unbelievable in the NFL. Yep. Elite Biscuits. As a Browns fan, I deeply fear picking six or seven again. What do you all think of the odds of this class having enough legit quarterback prospects come draft night to get one? More Clubnik slash Nuss flops would be hell. Yeah, I think a lot of the early mock drafts that we're going to do within the top 10 is going to have a lot of these teams selecting quarterbacks.

And half of them won't be good. And that's the thing is, is I wish I could give you more encouraging words here. But the fact of the matter is, is that we're going to hype up a lot of quarterbacks. and I don't know if they're all going to be good. Odds are they're not. But I think that it's, I also think that the odds are there where it's going to be better than this past season, right? Because I'm not convinced that Ty Simpson goes in the first round, genuinely, if he doesn't

get picked a 13 to the Rams. I agree. Could have been a situation where one quarterback goes in the first round. I think that at least this upcoming class will be better than that. Right. It's probably somewhere in the middle. it's not going to be a one quarterback class, which this year was billed as,

despite a tie going in the first round two. But is it going to be an eight quarterback first round class that the odds are on, the odds are telling you no, because that's just the nature of the position. But the fact that we have a long list of guys with the potential to go in the first round gives us hope that hopefully four of them can actually hit.

Right, right. This next one's for me. It is. Do you want me to read it to you? Yeah, sure. Go ahead. Trev, I got to ask. why you dock points for the Giants for Reese, saying where you play him

when you said you thought he was an off ball linebacker and Harbaugh agreed. Yeah, it was kind of the situation where he gets drafted to the Giants? And I'm like, okay, where is he going to play? Because all we heard for two months was he's an edge rusher. He's an edge rusher. He's going to play.

Like he said it himself. That's all we talked about him from an NFL perspective. And so that was kind of me saying like, all right, well, I don't really feel as though he has the flexibility to play a lot of off on ball. linebacker for you because you don't really have the reps for that. And I also kind of dock it because that's sort of the way that I felt about, well, I guess it's not true.

I mean, he was sort of talked about like Abdul Carter. That's the name that I was searching for. But I think Reese is a good offball linebacker. I just, I don't know. I don't, I don't, I didn't know where he was playing initially because they already have all of their on ball linebackers. And then when I look at him as an off ball linebacker specifically. for the Giants, I think they're going to ask him to play like, almost like Mike linebacker.

And that's not really where I think that he is best. I think he's much more of a run and chase type of a. If he's going to play off ball linebacker, I feel like it's more of an edger and Cooper style. And if he gets to do that with the Giants, like if Tremade Evans gets to play the Mike, like, okay, but I feel like maybe you'd sign Tremade Evans to do more of the run and chase stuff as well. So it's just that I don't really know what to make of his situation. I'm sort of indifferent with a lot of.

of it because we were just told that he was an edge rusher for two straight months and then he gets drafted by a team and now he's not an edge rusher. So I'm kind of like going back on on what I was thinking with him. But I don't know. It's a, that's it's it's a, it's a, it's an interesting landing spot because I truly just never thought of him to go to the New York Giants. But I think it's because I just, I don't love him as a, I if they give, again, if they give him more of the run and chase responsibilities, then that's fine. But I just never expected the Giants to pick Arbo Reese is kind of how I got to that, I guess. CQN Rad, everyone submits their picks.

And if anyone tries to pick the same player, they run the Oklahoma drill until there's only one man standing. Austin Fort versus Mugi would be a sad matchup. How big is Manti? How imposing is Manny Oswald? That's basically where I'm getting at here. I have no idea how big Monson. is. And there's nothing on what he played.

Oh, Montya Support height weight. Quarterback, okay. Because Mugi, you ever see Muzi when he was, like, I think he was in Falcons camp or something? No, how big was he? He was huge. He's not anymore.

He's tall. He's tiny now. He's like slender. He's slender. Yeah. When you Google Darren Muzi Falcons, there's a picture of him in camp with them, and he's a monster.

Really? And I guess when he walked away from the game, he walked away from weights as well. I'm telling you, it blew my mind when I first saw it, because you see him in now, and he's just, you know, he's just a slender dude in a suit. But yeah, he was a monster on the Falcons. I didn't know he had that in him.

Yeah. Okay. Where were we? SEPA gave us $5 super chat said, I think NFL is the addicts should officiate the supplemental draft tiebreaker contest. What could go wrong? Nothing.

It's, in fact, it would, it would improve and evolve the NFL tenfold if you guys were in charge of that. Nothing but facts. Daniel, since you lose an identical round pick in the supplemental draft, do the Jets who have three ones use their second round pick to drafts? I don't think so, as you can imagine, I've been asked this quite a bit. I do wonder if they're open, I do wonder if they're open to using the third rounder because that would let them keep. three ones and a two. And at that point, they're like, well, all his talent, we'll bid a third and see if we win.

I didn't even think about the Jets. Oh, it's them in Arizona and Cleveland are right in the middle of this thing. So now it's just going to become a game of chicken for a second round pick. 100%. Because I could name, like even the dolphins might even get in the mix.

I don't think they're going to, but like the Browns, the Cardinals, the Jets, the Dolphins. Like there are teams that I think would probably pretty easily bid a third round pick for Brennan's. Colts? Right. But I think the big question just becomes who bids a second? Well, because if you do, you get them. Right? You would think.

You would think. A second rounder should get it done. I do wonder, too, if we're overlooking. Because I think you and I really like the talent of the player. are we overlooking that why he's not able to play college football is going to be a big flag for teams? I don't know. Is it? I don't know if it's going to be.

That he allegedly was betting on his own team. And not saying, once again, not throwing games or anything, but more just. So the guys, the guys are he a little confident that his team's going to win? No, I'm just kidding. I'm just kidding. I know that it's very ugly. It's a very dumb thing to do. And you're going to be the face of a billion,

multi-billion dollar corporation. That's what teams are going to have to answer with Sorsby, who is incredibly talented. Stiggs gave us a super chat, said, The Draft Lottery is the worst thing in sports. Women Yama should be a piston. Do you have the, I explain my hate. It's a necessary evil, but I hate the draft lottery

in both the NBA and the NHL. No, I mean, you want to go off? Go off on it. No, I really don't have like some great rant for you. I just think that imagine sitting through a dog shit season and then you fall back to like the sixth pick. Yeah. And you're like, oh, well, cool. Well, that's the thing is it's supposed to stop tanking, but it doesn't.

No. Look, did you watch the Canucks this year? They're one of the worst teams I've ever seen on ice and they still might not pick first. Yeah. Yeah. I think it's fun. I think it's entertainment, but I don't think. think it's the best way to do it, you know.

I don't really know what the answer is, though. I don't, because that's the thing. I don't, I can only criticize it so much because I don't have an answer. You can't do like what you do in fantasy football where you go like, okay, well, everybody who doesn't make the playoffs now you go into a playoff bracket and the winner of that playoff bracket picks number one overall. You can't do that in other sports. The players who are currently on the team, what are they going to give it?

They're all for the right to draft the quarterback. Like, they don't, they're not going to give a shit. Like, that's, it's, it's. doesn't work like that in real life. So I don't, I genuinely don't know. And it feels like, I'm not a big NBA guy, but it feels like it's an epidemic in the NBA. Like it feels like the worst than the NBA.

The 12th or 13th team in the lottery is like also tanking hard. Like you're four or five spots away from like a playoff spot, but you're like, no, who cares, let's lose as many games as possible. Because the NBA is built where you could do it, where you're like, cool, we'll just sit our five starters. in this game and we will lose. And unfortunately for the NBA, one player changes your franchise.

That's right. Although, do you watch Brady Cook for the Jets last year? One player changed their franchise as well. That's true. They were blown out in the first quarter every week. Brad Pitt from Fury, baby. There you go. Tank commander.

There you go. That's right. Good callback. Kane said, made a Steelers specific draft guide and sent it to some friends and family and everyone loved it. Hey, there we go.

Hot up the stream because a recruiter called me with a new job offer. Whoa. There it is. Nicely done. Okay. Keep it up. Nice job, Kane. Keep it rolling.

That's really cool. Really cool that you made the Steelers specific draft guide. That's awesome. I love that. Will, $2 super chat. Fed's investigating how Ballard is still employed. Not after that draft or not. The evidence is right there.

Yeah. No, it felt like Ballard is. Howard found it again. Like his velocity fell down to like 89 for a couple of years. And all of a sudden, he showed up to spring training throw in 97. And they're like, what did it? Just need a little bit of rest, baby. Yeah, absolutely.

Tony Lee, where do you think the 2007 class will rank out of all the classes you have covered on the channel? Can't wait for summer scouting. Jets having three first rounders can't miss any college football this year. Hmm. What are some of the best draft classes? 2021 was, well, the neighbors. Oh, yeah.

But the, the, the, the, the, The 2023 class is awesome. Because it was so fun to cover with all the quarterbacks. Yeah. The 2021 class is pretty crazy, I think, when it came to hype. I was, I was thinking of 24. 23 was the price class. But that one died off.

24, for sure. The 2020 class was pretty awesome. I know there are some stinkers in there. We weren't doing the show then, though. Oh, yeah, yeah, for sure, for sure. The 2023 class was then the best. Yeah. Was it?

You're saying the one with Bryce or no? Not that one. Oh, no, no, no. Yeah, 2024 was way better. 2024 was nuts. It had six quarterbacks going to top 12. You had superstar wide receivers. You had Brock Bowers.

Great tackles. Yeah. Yep. Yep. Yeah. Just nobody can play defense in that class. Yeah, that's the best one. You're right.

You're right. You're right. You're right. Good call. Good call. Good call. Good call. Drafted up podcast.

He was $10 super chat. Thoughts on Gophers. quarterback Drake Lindsay buzz. Nate Tice and Corey Canaan like him as a gopers fan. I'm excited to see the progression. It's from Theo. I own, the only game that I watched of him was when he went one-on-one with Aeth-Ach-Mannis, when Calliath Manus like could not miss at all. And everybody was like, oh, the guy on the other side of the field is actually better than him. And I was like, I don't know who that is. And it was Drake Lindsay. And so like I saw some throws from him then, but I have barely watched that player. So I'm not sure. You'll have to check back for for summer scouting. Yeah, same here.

watching that game. And then we had Minnesota, Ohio State, and Ohio State was on one that night. So we only threw for 94 yards. So I'm excited to watch him over summer. I only, I, the one game we had that I covered him, it was not the best Minnesota game. Burt said, gave us $5 Super Chat said, people slandering my QB for a ceremonial first pitch of the Marlins game. L.O.L. He slipped. Shaking my head. I actually, I went back and I watched it. I actually don't know if he slipped. But I didn't think he slipped. But I also don't care. Like, it's, it's kind of nerve-wracking getting up there and throwing a different sized ball than you have your entire career with different mechanics involved.

So, like, I couldn't care less that, like, Joe Burrow sucked at throwing a baseball when people put him on camera. I don't think he did like a ceremony of first pitch or something, but he, I watched. He did do a first pitch and he just kind of lobbed it in, but Mahomes over through the catcher. It was horrible. Yeah. I couldn't. The ceremonial first pitch breakdowns, I just couldn't care less about. Just could not care less about that for quarterbacks.

You nailed it too when you don't throw a baseball for a really long time. It is one of the strangest things because when I stopped playing baseball, there was a long period where I ever picked one up again. And in between, like you still throw around a football, you still play pickup basketball, played in softball leagues in New York City. So all of that, and then you pick up a baseball again, and you're like, what the hell? This is so tiny and so weird. And that's probably the case for all these guys.

They don't pick up a baseball until they're asked to throw out a first pitch in front of millions of people. And you're like, oh, this sucks. Yes. Yeah, I just, I could, I could not put any less stock into those things. Peter said the MLB draft lottery is worse than any sport. Yeah, it's weird. It's really, really weird I think it's more

If I have this right I think the odds are more spread Where like I've done zero research on this I'm trying to look up the odds for it right now Like zero point zero Yeah so Yeah the

No the odds are It stinks but it's I mean if you finish last I think you still have by far like really good odds like almost a 30% chance. Peter said no, it just prevents teams picking in the lottery to pick in the top 10 again. Really?

Oh, where you get, you get penalized? So when the White Sox had the historically worst season, they picked 10th. Yes, that's right. He's right. They weren't eligible for the lottery. That is an incredibly stupid thing. Yes, he's absolutely right. So if you're in the lottery one year, the next year you can't be in the lottery?

Yeah, I totally forgot about this. So consecutive year restrictions. To prevent constant high picks, teams that receive revenue sharing funds cannot participate in the lottery back-to-back years. Non-revenue sharing teams cannot pick in the top 10 in consecutive years. The same team cannot win a top. six selection in consecutive years. That's awful. Peter's saying they're worried about tanking for prospects

as if the Dodgers won't just wait till these prospects pan out and give them a blank check. Yeah, and baseball, it sounds awful. You're not going to, you're not even going to come. You need, when teams really rebuild in baseball, you need, like look at the Orioles, you need, and the nationals, you need like three years of drafts to even come close. Dion D. Sauter said, Your Honor,

What if our team is simply ass? That's the case. Yeah, he's right. The lightning at back-to-back first round picks. Guess who they were? Victor Headman. Kuturov? And Stephen Sam Cove.

There you go. Franchise fixed. Franchise is fixed. Franchise pimped. You want to not worry about tanking? There you go. Let teams be bad and then they won't be bad anymore. And that's what everybody in the NHL does.

They're bad for a couple years at a time to hopefully get a core like that. Damn, Kucharov was a 58th overall pick in his draft. Oh, my God. What was Vassie? Definitely late. These goalies never go early anymore. He was a second rounder, I think.

Oh, he was 19th overall. That's early for a goalie. Oh, was he? Yeah. Yeah, damn. So they got Kuturov and Vassi in back-to-back drafts and not even top 15 picks. What a build.

Dude, they, I mean, I think this was, was this Eisenman? When was Eisenman there? Because he was, because this is, this is kind of crazy for drafting. They had Steven Stamcoast in 2008. They drafted Victor Headman number two overall in 2009. So it wasn't back to back first picks, but it backed back high picks. Then in 2011, they got Vladimir Meshkoff and Nikita Kutrov and Andre Palat in the same draft and then the following

draft it was Andre Vasselesky yeah they were just they were off to the races at that point they were living pimp your franchise Jonathan drew in the year after that oh man damn what could have been what could have been what could have been he says about a team that won

two cups last one Conrad said Rams should have waited a week and gotten into the supplemental draft sweepstakes late second rounder is a much easier pill to swallow than an early first I don't think that they would have done that. But it is interesting,

like having Brandon Sorsby in this situation, it could potentially save the Cardinals ass. You think they'll do it even after taking Carson Beck's 65th? I think if taking Carson Beck at 65 prohibits you from taking Brandon Sorsby, then that is a problem. Yes. I think that is a horrible process gotten even worse if they were to have that sort of line of thinking. There we go, folks. It's good to be back. It is good to be back. We are not going to be live Wednesday. Just to give the people a heads up. No, no, no, no. We're down to once a week until further notice.

And it'll mainly be on Mondays. Sometimes we'll have to be a little bit flexible. But yeah, we're down to, we're down to, we're down to, once a week now during the summer. And most of that will deal with summer scouting. But we'll be, we'll hit summer scouting in probably a couple of weeks. We'll start summer scouting and make sure that we can devote all the time that we want to to that. But this is fun. It was good to, you know, get back in the saddle after the draft grades episode.

I think it was fun to take a look at the 2027 class and some of the names. And then, you know, we'll be able to reference some of those names as we go through summer scouting. So this was good, man. I thought this was a lot of fun, especially to link back up with the addicts here. Absolutely. I love to kind of get a bird's eye view of how this class is being viewed already. And then we get to dissect it and do our own takes and who we think is around one guy who's being overhyped. And man, it's about that time.

Start watching players again. Like I said, I watched Soresby and Carr. But we'll do the, this quarterback class is going to take more time, I think, than usual. All said, all right, great. Now Trev can go find a job. Yeah, kind of. our chat diabolical

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