NFL Stock Exchange: An NFL Draft Podcast - REACTION: Peter Schrager's 2026 NFL Mock Draft 1.0

Episode Date: April 8, 2026

Trevor Sikkema and Connor Rogers react to Peter Schrager's Mock Draft 1.0 and compare it to their recent mock draft. Schrager is known as the "most accurate mock drafter" in the world, as he's been very accurate in the past due to his deep industry sources. Connor and Trevor see which picks they agree with Schrager on and which picks they are WAY off on. Subscribe to our channel and help us get to 75K before the NFL Draft! It helps us out a bunch. WE HAVE A DISCORD!!!!! JOIN HERE! https://discord.com/invite/PxSFVtWEwW https://discord.gg/PxSFVtWEwW?feature... if the link doesn't work for you, just search 'NFLStockExchange' on discord and it'll pop up timestamps: 0:00 Intro 6:40 Picks 1-10 24:24 Picks 11-20 33:17 Picks 21-32 51:45 Outro Follow us on X: https://x.com/NFLSEshow https://x.com/TampaBayTre https://x.com/ConnorJRogers We appreciate each and every one of you ADDICTS :) For business or other inquiries, reach us at [e-mail] Hosted by Simplecast, an AdsWizz company. See pcm.adswizz.com for information about our collection and use of personal data for advertising.

I'm going to select all the teams. And I'm going to go over here for the first time ever in show history. And I'm going to click seven rounds. The seven round marathon mock draft is going to be at noon Eastern Tuesday, April 14th, for that charity stream. Over under four and a half misclicks from Trevor. We go back and forth with you guys for seven straight hours as we go through every single pick that a mock draft can possibly handle. So we're starting the draft. Final pick of the fourth round.

I'm going to draft Ahmed Hossinian here to the Browns 200. Every last super chat dollar goes to two different charities. $300 super check. What? We had so much fun on last year's show. We can't wait forward again. It's going to be great. It's going to be jam-packed with, obviously, you guys in the chat.

May this stream rest in piss. Tim, you're on thin ice, brother, with guests that we get throughout the marathon. Benjamin Solac. Mike Renner, baby. You broke up there, but I'm sure there's something stupid. It's a great time. So hopefully you guys can join us for that at noon Eastern Tuesday, April 14th. Appreciate you guys.

See them. I think we're going Caleb Downs here. It is, oh my gosh. Oh my gosh, Sony style. All right, I'm going to give a shot clock. You got 10 seconds. 9, 8, 7, 6, 5, 4. It's nuts.

3, 2, 1. Oh my gosh. It's Caleb Downs. This is more entertaining than I even thought that it possibly could have been. Welcome to the opening bell of the NFL Stock Exchange podcast. Trevor Sicken, McConnell Rogers, back here with you guys for another mock draft episode, but a unique one, a new one. It's not the co-lab mock draft series. We're not doing a mock draft ourselves.

Instead, we're reviewing the mock draft of one of the most plugged in and accurate mock drafters every single year. It's Peter Schrager. Peter Schroger said himself, I do two mock drafts a year. The first one, which is the one that we're going to talk about here today, and then the second one, which is right before the draft.

But Connor, Peter knows his stuff, man. And when he writes and when he publishes what he knows and what he thinks is going to happen about the NFL draft, We listen. So we're going to break down that first round mock. How you doing, my friend? I'm good, man. I'm excited for this.

Like you said, Peter Schroger, man. He knows a lot of people in the NFL. He has industry sources. He does have industry sources. Yes, he does. You do that. You know what else that we really like about it?

Because you said it to me right when I sat down before. I know some of the picks from them being reposted. But when we decided to do this, I haven't read it top to bottom yet because I like the surprise out. element, but I know there's going to be a surprise element. He doesn't, you and I do this for so long that we do fall into some consensus picks when writing them. And consensus picks are consensus for a reason. There's a chance that they're going to happen more likely than some others. But I'm excited

today, Trevor, to see the ones that maybe we haven't thought about, maybe the chat freaks out at, which is always a lot of fun. Like there's just a different, there's different layers to this one. And Tracy is the man, right? I mean, like, he's a good dude. he is he's an awesome dude he works his butt off i mean for him to get the knowledge that he gets by the time the draft rolls around man i mean he's he's getting his hands dirty he's making sure that he's the draft loves this dude he and you could tell you could tell like he he wants to and i i very much appreciate this because i'm the same way like i'm i love everybody in this industry but when it comes to that final mock draft that we submit for accuracy i want to whoop y'all's ass like i want

I want to be the most accurate. And there are a couple of times, I'm not sure if Schrager has won the mock draft competition at Huddl yet. I don't know if he has one of those trophies and one of those titles on his trophy case. But he's close. And every single year, it is a, I mean, it is an accomplishment if you were to get a more accurate mock than Shrager because of how plugged in this dude is. So you guys can follow along as well when you go over to ESPN.com and you find

Schragger's mock draft. We're going to go through all these picks. Obviously, we're going to spend some time, some more time on certain ones than others, but we'll have a good time on this show. Before we dig into it, shout it to everybody who is a part of the show on Monday, the addicts co-lab mock draft.

Shout out to everybody who joined the NFLSE Discord to make that possible. That was the cold open of the show of what we were doing there. That was so much fun. We're going to have to work more of those shows in to this channel because you guys were awesome and that was a ton of fun. The hats, folks, are sold out. We love you guys.

We appreciate your. Thank you. Thank you so much for supporting the show, buying the merch, getting the hats. We are sold out. We'll get some more hats in. It won't be before the draft. But shout to everybody who got an NFLSC hat. And then, of course, we wanted to remind you guys that next Tuesday is the seven-round

marathon mock draft that Connor and I will be doing. It's a charity mock draft, which means Connor and I are going to partner with two different charities and all of the money, all of the super chats, everything is going to be donated to those two charities. and so come hang out with us for all seven hours as we are going to pick every single selection of the 2026 NFL draft that is next Tuesday at noon. Come hang out with us. What are you laughing at?

It's a bad day to look at the chat. Wait, a bad day to look at the chat. It's a bad day to look at the chat. We're like five minutes in. No, it's a bad day to look at the chat. All right. And we're not even firing up the donulator today. And it's a bad day to look at the chat.

Oh, man. Oh, boy. You know what? You know what? Actually, never mind. I can't, no, I can't say this. I can't say this on the show because I was about to. No, no, no.

I was about to give praise to somebody who almost got us got last week. Yeah, no. And I can't bring that up again because I can't give you guys, I can't give you guys publicity for it. I can't do it. Oh, God. Just know that we love you. We know that we have a lot of fun here on the show. Let me just.

I'll say this and then we'll end it there. I couldn't go to bed last night because I was endlessly scrolling. And like that was the kind of evening it was. I was just staying up scrolling for laughs. That's all I'll say. That's all I'll say. Dude, and that's that, that is a shameless plug. If you guys ever need a good laugh, come hang out with us on the live shows.

Get in the NFLSE Discord. It's a blast in there. You guys have made that such a fun community for us to get to do things like that with. So we appreciate you guys. Let's get into it, though. Let's get into Peter Schrager's mock draft 1.0 here that we have for the 2026 NFL draft. And this is the top 10. Courtesy of the chef, of course, putting this graphic together with us.

Yeah, there's ours. Very nice. I like it. Look at that. Oh! Oh, that's ours. Right, we're right. Oh, shoot.

Ours is on the left. We got the Schreger Bighead animation that we always do for us for our rankings. This is really, really cool. I love this side by side. So here we go. So we're going side by side. This is the most recent NFLSC mock draft that we did. And then it's right next to, adjacent to, if you will,

Peter Stregor's mock draft that he put out, it was yesterday, two days ago, whatever it was, sometime this week. So Fernando Mendoza, obviously going number one overall. That's a match there. Jeremiah, I love going number four overall to the Tennessee Titans. That is a match as well. But, Connor, I want your take here on David Bailey going number two overall to the New York Jets because it feels as though there's a lot of steam that's coming from that train of David Bailey

potentially to go number two overall. Now, some of the things that I've heard said about this, I can't remember Schrager said this in his mock draft on the written form, but I feel like I've seen people say, Bailey is like the safer pick? I don't even know if I would fully say that. But like, how do you feel about Bailey as the pick here, too, from Shreg's? So here's what was fascinating. I hope I have this right.

I did double check. In the same week, I think in the same 48 hours. Schreger, Daniel Jeremiah, and Albert Breer, three very, very plugged in people. Obviously, DJ does the draft year-round to an extent. Shregs and Breer definitely jump, you know, into the thick of it, probably even before the combine. Yeah, they're usually at the Senior Bowl and all that stuff. all three of them Trev pivoted to this in the same 48 hours. Now, I'm not saying that they are piggybacking off each other.

I think they are clearly hearing in the same, you know, radius. Right. And they all, if I recall correctly, had that reasoning of like, with Bailey, you know, what you're getting, he can rush the passer today, where Reese you're projecting them to rush the passer. So of course in turn, a lot of people have asked me when we did Badlands Live on Tuesday night and, you know, are you now pivoting? And it's funny for me because I feel like I'm going the other way.

I had it Bailey. You did have it, but you had it Bailey like initially when we were doing. Yeah. Yeah, I had a Bailey for us leading up to the combine and then I pivoted to Reese. I'm not backing off of that. It's a really interesting conversation, but I still think it's going to be Reese, but I think it's far from a lock and it's fascinating at three of the most plugged in guys in the industry all went with Bailey in the same 48 hour span.

So here we are, man, buckle up. And if you're the, here's the thing though, Trev, like if you're the Jets, is there a reason to build a lot of mystery around this pick? There's, I don't think so because it's not like they're going to trade down from it. Unless you're going to trade down from it. Yeah. Where now, like, people that really want Bailey or really. really want Reese.

They're like, oh, the Jets are taking him. Well, let's call and see. I still think it's Reese, but I think it's now a fascinating conversation. I'm trying to look up really quick. The betting odds for number two overall. Arvel Reese is still the heavy favorite at number two overall right now at minus $1.95.

And I think it was like minus two something a week ago. And then David Bailey is plus $210. And then nobody else is even close. close. Ruben Bain's next at plus 1,600. So it feels like it's just one of these two dudes at number two. And I always find it very interesting. Not that I just find it interesting like when news all changes immediately. I think all three of those guys that you mention, you know, DJ, Breer, Schrager, they're all very plugged in. Is the source the same? Because if the source is the same, then that obviously makes sense because somebody's trying to be a little bit louder

about it and let it get out there. But if the sources are different, then yeah, I think that there's a lot of smoke to that fire. So it's interesting that he had David Bailey at number two, given the week where a lot of other people are sort of changing that to David Bailey at number two. He's got Arvill Reese going three to the Arizona Cardinals, so no trade down, no offensive linemen here. But he does mention that Jeremiah Love is sneaky here at number three in the blurb

that he wrote over on ESPN.com. Did he? That was something I heard in Indy and wrote in my post Combine article. And then they went out and signed Tyler Algier. Not that stops you, but I'm like, damn, the Cardinals have a lot of running backs right now. That was something I did here in Indy. And I didn't know if that just completely goes away now. But, I mean, love is that good, I guess.

I think so, too. I think that right after the combine, it felt like we were very much in a situation where no spot was too high for Jeremiah Love outside of Bitya number two, maybe. Yeah. But now it feels like that there was some cold water thrown on that. Shoot, now maybe that might still be a lot. alive and well because he has Jeremiah love going to the Titans at number four. Can I just say this about the Titans? I don't know why we're not talking about offensive line more for Tennessee.

I just, I don't really, when did it just become a, nah, we're good? Two years from now, the only player on the Tennessee Titans offensive line that I could tell you is going to be playing the same position as Pierce Cronsky. Yeah, I would agree. That's it. Dan Moore Jr.'s contract is going to be up. J.C. Latham might not even be a tackle. and you've got two brand new, a center and a guard even this year.

When did we get to the point where we're just like, nah, Tennessee's good on the offensive line? They don't need it. I just find it funny. I just think it's funny that we're not talking about the Titans and offensive line at all whatsoever. There's a couple things like that when you slow down and look at and I'll get to that when we get to Delane in a second. But, yeah, I think it's a really fair point.

I guess the problem is Trevor to truthfully answer your question. is besides the investment they made in Dan Moore, one of the richest Dan Moors in the domestic United States, is that there's not like a Pena Sewell, a guy in this show, by a consensus view. Obviously, we like Spencer Fano a lot, but I don't think Fano has that across the board view as a top three pick in the league.

Top four picks, sorry. So maybe that's why, but I think you're absolutely onto something where it's like, should we just, assume this is this offensive line that's set in stone. But I don't think they're going there. I don't. I don't either. Schrager also mentions for the Titans that when he talked to Mike Borgonzi on the

Shreger Hour, which is his podcast, they pointed out having like waves of pass rushers. So he said, you know, if one of our Bel Rees or David Baylor, maybe they would consider Ruben Bain there at number four could tempt them potentially from Jeremiah Love. But it does feel like we're kind of honing in on Jeremiah Love. Francis Maui Noah was his pick for the New York Giants there at number five. And he referenced the fact that John Harbaugh said that the offensive line was, quote, a work in progress. And then we've talked on this show about Harbaugh also saying that his objective is to make the best offensive and defensive lines in the NFL.

I also think that we're kind of honing into offensive line for the Giants at number five. And I think they'll have the opportunity to pick one of, Spencer Fano, Francis Maui Noah, like one of those two guys that they think could potentially be worth it there. or maybe they're even a trade down candidate, right? They're a team that I think could use some extra draft picks. You trade down and you find the offensive linemen that you want, maybe a little bit later around the top 10. I think a trade down and an offensive line target for the Giants is right on the money

from what Trigger is saying. Yeah. So we've done a lot, and I admittedly have done a ton of this, of Stiles and Caleb Downs in this slot. More recently, I have heard offense at five, which is in line with this. not just pigeonhole to offensive line, but definitely offensive line included. So Maui Noah at 5.

And right after that, Trevor, another team that I hear now more offensive tackle than anything else is Cleveland at 6. I could totally see that. The Carnell Tate love is going crazy right now. Like, do you see DJ, DJ talked about Carnell Tate, his range starts at two. Now, I don't think the Chats are going to take him at two. I wouldn't agree with that, but him saying that, I think he says it because he probably has heard unanimous praise for Carnell Tate. And I just wonder if like the Browns go, no, no, no, no, no, we got to take this guy.

We got to take this guy at wide receiver because otherwise I do agree. And Traeger has them taking Spencer Fano here in his mock. Yeah. And this might be one where. I still, you know, it's always funny like what you buy into at the Combine and then what you get away from. I am not ruling out Monroe Freeling here still.

Okay. Like, I think it's really early. I know you think it's really early. I do think it's early. But I don't think it's off the table for them. Wouldn't be me. But I think it's at least, there's a chance.

So, Shregger's got Sonny Stiles, going to the commanders at seven. He's got Ruben Bain going to the, Saints at number eight. I think he just kind of talked about with those two guys, more of the talent fit than anything else, right? He mentioned that Washington was one of the worst defenses in the NFL last season. And then with New Orleans, just so much change on that defense

and not having Cam Jordan on the team at all because he's still a free agent. He's not signed. We've made those picks plenty of times before with Sonny Stiles and Rubin Bain there with Washington and the Saints. This is the one that I wanted to talk a little bit more about. He's got the Kansas City Chiefs taking Jordan Tyson at 9. And I find this fascinating because what I'm going to pay attention to most

when it comes to a lot of these insider mocks is where Jordan Tyson is going. And whether or not, because there was a point last week when everybody was talking about Tyson and the medicals and all this kinds of stuff. And there's some question marks. You know, does he play competitive all the time? Is that toughness always there in his tape? Like there was, it felt like that Jordan Tyson's stock was falling when we heard a lot of stuff over the last week. So it happened at T-Mac this time last year.

But Schrainger's got him at nine. Shrigger doesn't even have him like, you know, 27 to the, to the San Francisco for 49ers. He's got him at nine for the chiefs. What do you think about him getting into the top 10 here? Shrager and I are hearing very, very similar on Jordan Tyson. Jordan Tyson, his demise has been greatly exaggerated. in the league. Now, if you, like, fans or draft analysts or whoever have concerns, I've been the first to say, I totally get it. I totally get your concern about the injuries. Like,

there's not, that's totally valid. But I think he's too high on a couple of different boards that Jordan Tyson, like talk of him falling outside the top 20. Don't see it. Yeah, don't see it. I think it's more likely Tyson goes in the top 10 than outside the top 20. Ooh, I like that take. I hope it's true because I think Tyson's a stud. Now, like, of course, could he just end up going 13 or 16 or 14, you know, Rams, Ravens Jets? Like, yeah. But, yeah, I just, outside the top 20, yeah, I just don't see it.

I just think he's too talented for that. That's all I hear is like, well, it's too good. We'll figure it out. Spencer in the chat is saying, I think it was either McShay or DJ mentioned that Caden Proctor could go as high as number six and won't get past Lions at number 17. So that's interesting because I've also heard a lot more rumblings about Caden Proctor being a higher selection than a lot of people had currently had him in mock drafts, which it felt as though Caden Proctor sort of every time we did a mock, he'd comfortably go somewhere in the 20s, you know,

Chargers, 22, Eagles at 23. maybe the Cleveland Browns at 26. Like what? Like it just, we've done that for the 49ers at 27. It just felt like that was always the comfortable spot for Proctor. But a lot of mock drafts I've seen over the last couple of days and a lot of the rumblings about Caden Proctor are more of,

hey, he's going top 20. Now I hadn't heard six. Him going as high as six, that would be new. That would be very new to me. But his stock does seem to be, I'll say the perception of his stock does seem to be on the rise here over the last week or so. Yeah, we've pulled up a lot of people in the chat saying McShay kind of started that.

I'll be honest, I haven't heard a lot about Proctor. When I consistently put them to the lines at 17, that's just me knowing what they like. Of course. But I admittedly haven't heard a lot of heat or buzz around Proctor, but obviously those guys know a ton. And if how much, I mean, Trevor, we've seen before the big hulking. Alabama offensive tackle closer to the draft ends up going 10 spots earlier than anybody thought. Yeah. And look, Rubin in the chat is saying, I don't understand the Proctor height, the feet are too slow and he gets killed by speed rushers in college, going to be worse in the NFL.

Guard, sure, maybe, but I wouldn't touch him at tackle. I'm not, although I do agree with sort of the archetype of the argument that you have for Proctor, I'm not as soured on him as it sounds like Ruben is where I like him more as a guard. but I don't think I don't think this is Mackay Beckton 2.0 right? Like I don't think that this is Dewan Jones again.

Like I think that he is much more alluring than both of those players. And Connor, we talked about this at the combine. I liked that he showed up sub 250 at the combine because wouldn't he, or not 250, 3.50. He was 350, yeah. Was he right at 350?

I thought he was like, well, 348, whatever was. He played at like 365, 370. Yeah. So he lost. He lost a lot of weight. So I like laughing it, even in the chat, saying you can't teach being large and in charge. Hey, you know. You can't.

You cannot teach it. It's very true. Somebody said, 250, only weight watchers. Caden Proctor moving to tight end. Nobody knows why. He's giving, he's giving Kenya Cedek have run for his money. Yeah. Caden Proctor was like, heard there were no blocking tight ends in this class.

Watch this. Watch this. He does catch the ball. So he doesn't he have a touchdown? He got really close. Yeah. A couple fullback, couple full back belly handoffs.

He's, that was funny. So Tyson going top, top 10. I think that's very interesting. He's got Mansour Delane at number 10 to the Cincinnati Bengals. He mentions that the Bengals need a true shut down guy on the outside is what he said in his article,

which once again by the way, guys, you can read over it ESPN.com. Let's go to the next 10. One quick note, Trev, that I just want to drop in. We don't have to have a long combo on it.

But we have to have a long combo on it. We haven't talked about this. I brought this up to Sims today. Delane having 30-inch arms. Do you know the last, and shout out to our producer Pete Demolaitis who researched this, the last corner to go in the top 10

with 30-inch arms or sub-30-inch arms? It's been a long time. Anterell Role, who eventually moved to safety. Yeah. That was in 2005. It just doesn't happen. Yeah. I think Delane is going to go,

but he is an outlier. for being a corner going that high that has short arms. Eight percentile. Do you have him CB1 or do you have him McCoy? I do and here's the, here's like the, I hate this about me. It's an ultimate fence riding. Because you, anybody to listen to us over summer,

I think we both had McCoy. Yeah, CB1. McCoy's still CB1. I still like McCoy better as a player, but missing the whole year. With an ACL. With an ACL is how I had him. Like on the big board,

they're side by side almost. But I'm like, I feel like a coward. But it's just a long time. It's a long time. I was talking, I can't remember who I was talking to about this. It might have been Mitch Kaiser on his,

on his podcast, but the second that McCoy ran the four three eight, I'm, I get it, I've never been, I've never been more back. CB1. I've never,

yeah, yeah, I've never been more back. Yeah, I mean, yeah. Now, I'm calling my editor, NBC, flip him. I'm sick to my stomach about this. Hey, scrub the tape.

Scub the tape. that podcast never happened. It was AI. I never said that. McCoy CB1. No, I, I am with McCoy CB1. And I like Delane. Delane is very close. It's really good, yeah. Really good player. But I would have, I would have McCoy as my seat. But is it not funny? All we do for months is talk about can Rubin Bain go in the top 10 because of his arm length? And Mansler Delane, you've probably never heard someone bring that up once. Never. Not once. Not once. Not once. Like Grenade says, cowards tend to live longer. There you go. Nice.

Congrats on that. Nice. What a, what a toothless life. All right. 11 through 20. Let's see. This was, so on the left, we have NFL SEs, most latest mock. Which is 100% accurate.

Yeah, it's 100% accurate. I mean, Schrager's got to obviously catch up with us. That's why we're putting him side by side because we know that he'll watch the show. And then he'll be like, oh, yeah, of course. I need to make sure that I change mine to exactly what Connor and Trevor had. So, so this is interesting. He's got Carnal Tate going 11 to the Miami Dolphins. I don't.

So this is, this is the little, this is one of the nuggets. And I'm not reading all these guys because I want to make sure that you go support Peter's work and you go read this on NFL.com, or sorry, on ESPN.com. But he says new coach Jeff Haffley, who coached with Ryan Day in San Francisco and at Ohio state and GM John Eric Sullivan, have had countless. contacts at Ohio State. The whole program raves about Carnell Tate could bring some juice to Miami. So he's kind of citing one of his known connections that he has there, which I think is interesting, not just for Carnell Tate, Connor, but also potentially for Caleb Downs, right? Because

Downs could potentially be available for them at number 11. I don't know how likely it is that Carnell Tate is, but the Ohio State connection is an interesting one to think about with Miami, given sort of what Schrager said there. It is. And there's so many good prospects at that school this year that it's like, okay, you know, how do we nail it down to who? And the Miami needs everything. So that also, you know, helps as well.

But yeah, I could see it. I don't know if tape makes it here. It's going to be interesting. I think it's going to be very close call. So he's got Caleb Downs going to the Dallas Cowboys, which I think, you know, fits like a glove. Mackay Lemon, he has him going to the Los Angeles Rams. And I don't know.

Connor, if there's ever been a more penciled in pick two weeks out from a draft. It's every mock draft. Outside of the top 10. Then Michael Lemon going to the Los Angeles Rams. Well, it's fascinating too. Like, I feel like Shreger had, and I'm not saying anything one way or the other, but Shreger has McVeigh on a show. I feel like every year.

So it's one of those ones where he's, I'm not saying he knows or he doesn't know, but it's weird when you're that close. to an industry source where it's like sometimes you know but you have to put it you might put the position but you put a different player

yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah and then you save it for the second mock yeah yeah yeah yeah right you're like ah this is just the appetizer this is a Kalmari right like we're not bringing out the fillet in April 6th

so but you're right McCoy Lemon's at 13 in every mock draft so this one I think is also interesting is it Kenyan Sadiq he has him going 14. Because Sadiq, to me, at least I think so, I think his range should be a lot more all over the place than where it really is. But with Shrager having him go 14, to me, that tells me that this is sort of like the range

in the conversation. Now, I don't know if he's going to go to the Ravens when it's all said and done. But to me, a big takeaway of somebody who is as plugged in as Peter is, is more about like the range and the spots, not necessarily the teams. I think the team and prospect fits are probably for that, you know, second mock draft that's right before when the draft is actually going to happen.

But to me, what I'm taking away from this is a lot of ranges for these players. And he has Keny Sadiq at 14. He has Jermon McCoy at 15 to the Bucks, which is interesting. And then he has Omar Cooper Jr. at 16 to your New York Jets. That's the highest I have seen Omar Cooper Jr. On a mock.

Yeah, same. That is the highest that I have seen him. And I think it's very fascinating those three names at 14, 15, and 16 as middle of the first round range type of players. Lots to go through here. Once I got my ass chewed up when I took Sadiq to the Ravens in our chat. So I am thankful to have a brethren that also did this just so it's not me on an island. So instead of the John Snow Giff of you pulling out the sword against all the horses, now it is simply two John. knows against all of the horses.

We will still lose without backup. Cooper feels like the Jets like him a lot. It's going to be interesting if they... It feels like everybody likes him a lot. It's going to be interesting if they love him. Because at 16, you love him. Especially when you're picking at 33

and you can maneuver up or down. McCoy is back, like you said, back and better than ever. Man, on your bucks at 15. What a dub that would be. Yeah, they, I think corner, corner is a lot more of the sneaky need for Tampa than being talked about because like, yes, they, they need a linebacker. Yes, they need a passers or desperately. But their corners were really bad last year.

And I think it all comes down to what they think about Benjamin Morrison because Morrison was bad last year. But he was a rookie and he was hurt. Right. So are they saying to themselves, no, no, no, no, no, no, no. Morrison's going to be totally fine. Like everything's all good. He's going to be fine. Or is it a situation where they go,

might have some early buyer's remorse here. And if they do, McCoy's absolutely on the table for the mid-15. Oh, McCoy would be so good for them. Downs making it to 12. I don't see it, but can we be floored if a safety falls? No.

So Thineman not in his top 20. correct oh that's fascinating i don't know if he's in his top anything in this wow i haven't scrolled all the way down but he's got he's got emmanuel mcneal warren at 18 to the vikings and i haven't not seen theanman's name yet i've thought phenomen is a lock to go above mcneal warren but the draft is crazy man venga 17 vanga everybody just likes venga he's going to go in these teens, these mid, mid, early kind of teens. There's Freeling at 19, which is a logical destination for him to develop. Don't hate it.

I think he's going to go, he might go earlier than this, but it's a very logical destination. And then Messador to the Cowboys, like, that doesn't surprise anyone. That's, that could be their type of edge player. That's one where they, you know, it's interesting because Dame Bruehler put out the beast. today over at the athletic, which shout out to Dame Bruegler. It's an incredible accomplishment. Truly putting out something that is a pillar of this entire industry every single year.

And there's so many reasons to read and take in that content. And I think a lot of the background information and specifically a lot of the either medicals or, you know, off the field stuff that he's heard. Like he's just got, he is so plugged in in those things. So I had sort of heard of the issues of the, the injury history with Akeem Messador, but he kind of confirmed it was the foot ligament injury that he had in 2022, and then he had it on the other foot in 2023.

It seems like it hasn't been an issue for him since, but he had a little bit of a shoulder injury as well. All that to say, the Cowboys in their past, I feel like, haven't really let some injuries get in the way of them drafting the player that they wanted. You know, Savon Rebel last year was one example. But are they like sick of that? Like, are they like, no, we're just not drafting hurt players anymore. Because if not, then I totally agree with you that Messador is like a,

he would fit what the Cowboys really want right now, which is a ready-made pass rusher to help them win right away. So back in the day, the Niners had a run of doing this. And I'm going back now. They had a run, though, of taking guys with injuries that were better than their draft slot. and if I remember correctly, it ultimately really didn't work out for them. God, I'm trying to go down the list live on the show.

Not a good time to be doing that. You get the point. You're doing great. And this is, thank you. This is going, it's great content. This is going way back. But it is one of those things where if, like, you get burned once or twice by it or you lose patience, you kind of get away from it,

where you're like, yeah, we just, we can't keep waiting and waiting and take that kind of chance. So, yeah, it will be fascinating to see if they're willing to go down that road with anybody with medical question marks. Yeah. Moving on to the next 10. You want to see the next 10? I think this is where this is where things get very. Oh, so we're just doing the whole rest of the first round.

Look at the chef, putting it all on. He's just cooking. Putting it all on one page here. So, oh, Dylan DeLenneman is here. He's at 30 of the dolphins. We got Keel and Rolidge in here? Wow. Wow.

Oh, baby. That is stunning. Whoa, boy. There have been, I will say this. There have been some rumblings. Dain Brewer himself has had a little bit of rumblings as I've seen on social media. And he's talked about Chase Vassantis and Keel and Rutledge, both guard prospects, having a decent shot to get into the first round. So no Chase Bissantus here, but Keelan Rutledge is here.

So I think folks, think less about exactly where they're going in the mock, like to the New England Patriots. And again, the thing to remember here is the range. That's the big takeaway. And to get Rutledge's name into the first round, I think tells you there's smoke to that fire with him potentially making it into round one. Wait, where is Rutledge playing for in the NFL? Or what do you talk about?

No, the Patriots. No, no, no, no. So this is what I would say, because we're going to, we're going to go through this a couple of times because I already see some of these names that we're going to have these conversations with. To me, it's much less about Ruttledge going to the Patriots. And it is more about, I think, I think Schrager has heard so much buzz about Rutledge that he wants to get him in the first round. So put him at 32 where they have a guard spot open. Right, well, he wasn't available at 32. It just got picked at 31.

Oh, man. So that's, that's, that would be my response. there is that it's less about it's less about proving a point it's not about the team picks I'm sending a message oh man that is great that is actually how I feel about this this situation though um because we got Rulage here and actually really quick Rulage or Bessantis do you like either of them to the point where you would consider them in the first round or no. No.

It's funny you ask. Pisantas I wrote up a while ago, but Rutledge, I did the final eval four last week and I like him. I do, but I like him as like classic day two brawling guard. If you're going to be a first round guard, man, you need to be almost flawless.

And Rutledge had really good testing times. He had a good three cone. He actually did the three cone, which was nice. He's got long. arms for a guard and big hands, thick upper body. But man, like, as good as his testing times were, I didn't think his feet match that when mirroring Twitch. He's a good player. He's a really good player. And he's this brawler that finishes his blocks. And he gets out of the gate when they ask him to pull and climb and he's got good size. But, you know, he's got some things to

clean up where you're not, like, it's not like, I'm struggling to find things that are wrong. like his hands get a little wide, he could lose his balance. You've got to be so good to be a first round guard. Yeah, I wasn't there. I like Preggn. I like Preggn better than him. And that's fair. I think that's definitely fair.

I think that Rutledge, I think it Pregnon, and I think the Bissontas are all sort of in this bucket of guys who I think are really solid, like second round grade players. I believe that Rutledge is more of if you are running a lot more downhill power run scheme type of stuff. That's definitely his bread and butter. I think that Bessontas and Pregnon are a little bit more of those zone blocking type of runners. And I think that Bessontas is the player that I would take of all three of them because I like him the most in pass protection. I love the feet in pass protection.

I love his eyes. I love the feel for things where pressure is going to come from. But yes, I think that all three of them to me got second round grades. And so I can understand the idea of a team that really maybe wants an interior offensive lineman drafting them at the back end of the first round. But it's interesting to see Rutledge's name here. We already talked about Thineman a little bit. I think I am much higher on Dylan Thineman. He's a lot closer to my top 10 than he is, you know,

back end of the first round type of a player. I think this would be a steal for getting him at the back end of the first round. Judarian Price. Thoughts because you've been pretty big on Judarian Price throughout this whole process. Him getting Judarian Price in the first round with the final pick here for the Seahawks. Do you feel as though this may be more of just say, hey, the Seahawks have nobody a running back? or do you feel like this might be a little bit more of, hey, the league likes Judarian Price quite a bit here?

It's a little of both. The league loves Judarian Price because they think he has star talent that can be unlocked by just getting more touches, especially in the past game, which you didn't get to do at Notre Dame. And it's also like, it is a nice little flex of, hey, Judarian Price is going earlier than any of you think. And when you put him to Seattle at 32, well, yeah, Seattle could use a guy like that. but is it maybe more likely price goes top 45 rather than first round sure i mean Trevor i always look at houston at 38 and i'm like yep sign me up all day um but yeah price is well liked maybe this is i put him here before so i can't even say it's a tad rich

but yeah prices he's going to be the second running back taking in this draft we're we're working uh i'll work backwards here a little bit we've got colton hood at 29 maxi onature at 28 uh to the Houston Texans. We've done that plenty of times before. Caleb Lomu to the Niners at 49 and Trayger says San Francisco's offensive line could be in flux if they don't get things cleared up with Trent Williams contract. I think that's pretty interesting because Trager is somebody who I think has a good finger on the pulse for major stuff like that of Trent Williams, you know, situation with the Niners. And even he is saying, hey, this is maybe a little bit more in flux than you would think with a player like Trent Williams when he's on a certain team. So I think that Caleb

Lomu. Him at the back end of the first round isn't the surprise, but I think specifically the takeaway here might be the Niners taking an offensive lineman because of that reasoning for Shreger. Yes. And yeah, they're getting to the end there where you're going to have to be ready for the next phase of your offensive line.

I think Lomo has oddly become underrated in this draft. No one ever talks about him. I agree, man. I still like him more than Freeling. I know it's annoying how often I say that, but I just have to say it. I don't know when we put a gap between them, but there's a gap between them in projections. So, and boy, would you and I feel pretty good if Caleb Lomu ends up in San Francisco who finds a way to develop offensive linemen.

Yeah, yeah. By the way, Peter in the chat said, Caden Proctor reminds me of Trevor Sycamma. Yeah, I mean, look. I have made this comparison in and out of my dock. I'm like, ah, I write it in and I delete it. Shades of Trevor Sycamas. The high end outcome for Proctor is Trevor Sycamma. Yeah, right.

you know, a retired podcast, a laid-off podcaster. Yeah, yeah, yeah. That's what everybody wants. I forgot. You know, I'm a job. Played by her. Fooled me. Yeah, I don't have a job.

Imagine having a job. Yeah, unfortunately, unfortunately, you can. You square. You're working for the man. I know, I know. I'm a corporate man. What can I say? Put my badge on my belt.

My wife just says I'm a stay-at-home podcast dog dad now. And you know what? I'm dreaming. of that world. Because, man. Yep. When, who was among us?

It's a good life. You get it. Just like Dan Moore money. So we've, go find it. So we've got, we've got Cade McDonald, which, by the way,

funny thing about Cade McDonald's because we got him going number 26 overall to the Buffalo Bills. Folks, McPounder follows the show. We better click follow back, by the way. What are we doing? I know.

We didn't do that. We actually need to do that. We actually need to do that. that immediately. We're big time in him right now. That's not cool. We're big time in the big man. Oh, we need to shout out to Caden McDonald. I don't know if he actually watches the show, but I think that this is incredible that a player who has become such a fan favorite with the chat, with the addicts, and with the show follows the show. So shout out to Caden McDonald, aka Cade McPounder for following the show.

Hodor McPounder. And being one of the addicts, Hodor McPounder. Yeah, I hope he's a game. I hope he's a Game of Thrones fan and I hope he saw that clip. We're at a minimum he saw it and then Google, YouTube to the scene and he's like, oh, hell yeah. Yeah, yeah, yeah. So it's always cool. Like, you and I,

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It's the fastest show we've ever done. He's one of the fastest shows we've ever done. Oh, so these are the ones that I think that we definitely got to get into. Caden Proctor going to the Bears at 25. Yeah. I don't see. This to me was more of, and there's a, actually, I'm going to lump all these together. Caden Proctor going 25 to the Bears.

Casey Concepcion going to the Browns makes sense at 24. We don't have to sort of defend that one too much. Eagles going Denzel Boston. That one's not too bad either. But then the Chargers getting Blake Miller at 22. And then the Steelers getting T.J. Parker at 21. When I see T.J. Parker going to the Steelers, Blake Miller going to the Chargers, and then Caden Proctor going to the Bears.

To me, that says, Peter knows these guys are going in the first round. He just kind of had to find a spot for him. And it's tough. He's doing the rutledge. And it's kind of, right. And it's kind of tough to do. But I, I, because look, in reality, the charges aren't picking Blake Miller. Blake Miller can't play guard.

He's not, he's not, he's not like a tackle guard hybrid. And, you know, like, Trigger sites in there like, hey, you know, like depth of the tackle spots because they were so beat up last year. You wouldn't use 22 on that kind of a player. But the takeaway to me is that he hears so much about Blake Miller that he knows he knows he's going in the first round. I think the same with T.J. Parker. Because there's no reason why the Steelers would draft T.J. Parker at 21. Basically none. Unless there is some sort of mass exodus at Edrushar that's happening over the next calendar year,

which I'm not so sure is happening in Pittsburgh. Outside of that, there's no reason why they would take him at 21. However, I think Trigger gets him in here for a reason. And it's less about the team fit and it's more about, I've heard enough about this player to where I think he's going in the first round. It has to be, right? I mean, also, he could be, for the charger side of it, he could be highlighting that he feels they need offensive line,

but he just took the best one available rather than a guard. When we know that they need a guard. Right. So, Schreger wrote that he thought Miller could provide depth for both All and Slater and even slide inside a guard. Honestly, like that, when I read that stuff, that means, in my opinion, that at least one position coach told him they think Blake Miller could do it.

I don't think you are. I expect Blake Miller to do that. I don't either. But I would, that's, that's the poll quote to me. And then somebody in the chat said if you swap Parker and Miller it actually work, actually you're kind of right. It does. Miller went to the Steelers and Parker went to the Chargers.

That would be, that would be more realistic with what I think they're going to focus on. Yeah. You know, and it feels like, yeah, I don't, I don't have the rationality for Parker to the Steelers. No, no. I'm not going to try. That's one of their deepest positions. Again, I think that the takeaway here is,

Schrager, especially in this first mock, I think a lot of it is, hey, these are the players that I am hearing the most buzz about. In a way that makes sense. I'm not saying that he's just like throwing names at the dartboard. That's absolutely not what I'm saying. But I think especially in the 20s, especially at the back end of the first round,

that's my main takeaway from this mock, which remember, you know, mocks can have a lot of different purposes. And I think for Schrager specifically, especially this first one, the purpose is we get a peek behind the curtain of what he is hearing. And I think that if you allow yourself to take those hints away, that's really where this exercise becomes very valuable. I would agree. I would definitely agree. It is trying to get the players right and above all.

And maybe the position groupings right when we constantly see Mackay Lemon written to the Rams at 13. So I think the big thing is like what's going to be the surprise of the draft? Because reading this mock draft, the surprises to us, Trevor, were Rutledge in it by far. Going back to the top, downs falling outside the top 10. What else would you? Theteman at 30. Theneman at 30. I keep glossing over that conveniently.

Yeah. Theneman makes it by 20, it feels like a shock. Yeah, can't see it. Can't see that one. The closer we get, I feel like it's starting to correct back for McNeil Warren. Like, I think he's starting to skew back

to day two rather than around one lock. And that could be early. That could be as early as 33 to the Jets or top 40. I don't really constantly put him in the top 25 of mock drafts anymore. Cooper to the Jets.

Cooper to the Jets is a big one. Just with him going. that high. I think that's a, that's definitely a, sure, takeaway as well. But, um, and then Tyson, I think Tyson going top 10 is, is another major takeaway here that Schrager would put him that high. That's definitely newsy. Yep. Yep. So, so some players that weren't taken in the first round. I think the most, I think the most notable one is Ty Simpson, right? This is a, this is a much more of a, what I'm hearing type of a mock draft of what Schrager does as an insider. and he didn't have Ty Simpson in the first round.

To me, that's telling. Because I think, I think that if Shreger heard enough positive for Ty Simpson in the first round, he'd force him in. He would, somebody's trading up. He would have done some sort of trade for somebody to trade up. The Patriots. 31. Would have put him in the Patriots.

Hey, you can never have too many quarterbacks. You can't. You can't. So I think that that is interesting that Ty Simpson didn't make it at all whatsoever. And even though I still think there's a chance he could be a first round pick, I think that it is just very interesting that he didn't get in there. There weren't a lot of other obvious ones, though. Like C.J. Allen, but he even talked about C.J. Allen, like maybe getting him in at 30 with the Miami Dolphins.

No Christian Miller, but there's no guarantee that Christian Miller's. I just, I don't think that there were a lot of, like, Zion Young, but, you know, Zion Young. Peter Woods, as well. I think maybe that's the other one of Peter Woods not getting it. into the first round here. So that's, that's probably, along with Simpson, the most buzzy player who did not get into the first round here. Yeah, that, that checks out to me. I'm trying to think of like if, no, this is, this checks out. I mean, ooh, no Celtic Falk either, by the way. Yeah. Which we've talked about this.

We have to have this conversation. No Zion, no Zion Young. I feel like we're getting to a place where you see a lot of Zion Young at 25 to the Bears or beyond. So, Katelyn Rutledge, like, that's, that's just, I'm, I still go back to that one. That's a, that's a wow for me. I think it's a little more realistic than you think, partner. I'm not writing it off, but. Well, don't. Maybe I will.

Especially if, you know, screw it. Because then he won't write back. What are you going to do that? Shout up to Peter Schrager. Yeah, man. One of the good guys in the business. somebody that we love reading his work we love getting interact with him uh he does a great job sort of bridging the gap between the fans and uh i think the NFL side of things between uh between

the walls of NFL facility so it's always fun make sure you guys go follow him and support all his work what shrieger and i think you and i strive to do this like you could tell you really loves not only football but covering football and it's you know you and i really strive to do that because we do love football, we love covering football, and we have so much enjoyment in this job. And I, it's a weird, like, I don't want to say a lost art, but it's less common now. You know, growing up, like, you think all the Sports Center anchors

and Chris Berman and Tom Jackson, like, just for like everybody that was on TV talking about football loved football and loved it. Football and love talking about football. And now sometimes it comes off as a chore some places. So I just want to use that as a compliment. to Shreger because it always feels like every day is a great day.

And I agree with you completely. And obviously, you and I don't know anything about that because it's so much fun for us here to cover. But I totally agree. You can tell when someone's genuine about loving what they do. And I think that Shreger is one of those people that genuinely loves what he does covering the game of football. Shout out to him.

Make sure you guys are going and following all of his great work that he is doing for ESPN. This is the last episode for us that we have. week because we're going to be getting ready for the marathon mock draft that is going to be next week. We're not going to have a Monday episode. We're going to have a Tuesday episode. Tuesday, noon Eastern. That's when we are starting the seven round charity mock draft stream. It could go as long as seven hours, but you guys, if you were part of it last year, you know the drill. Connor and I are going to pick two charities that we're going to support.

And every dime, every super chat, everything is going straight to those charities. So it's a really cool stream. It's one of our most watch streams. And we really appreciate that from everybody since it is a charity stream. We're going to have some really cool guests on us. It's not just going to be us gibronies on there for seven straight hours. We're going to have a lot of really great guests. We're going to get you guys involved in the show more this year than we ever have. So make sure that you mark it off on your calendars Tuesday, April 14th, noon Eastern.

That's when it's starting. Come hang out with us. I'm going to try to just DM the link to the charity stream to as many people as I can. Hell yeah. They might think it's like that hacking virus going around. So I'm going to have to clarify like this is like you are. This is not the hacking virus. You won't lose your cow.

Let's see how many people I see them there from No Skips Radio and Vite McPounder. We might. Good. Good. Could send him the link. Would be fun to get some players to join. We'll see what we could do. It's going to be, it's going to feel big this year.

Yes. It's going to feel really big, which is special. We're very excited for you. If you guys are watching this live, stick around. We're going to read some of the super chats here. The after the episode portion of the show. But until next week, on Tuesday, for the chef, behind the scenes, producing the show for Peter Schrager himself, for Connor Rogers.

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