NFL Stock Exchange: An NFL Draft Podcast - Simpson Rises, Mateer Falls, New 1st Round QB? + Trevor Crash Out
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What's going on, everybody?
Welcome back to the PFF NFL show.
I'm the guy on the right from the PFF NFL podcast.
That's Connor Rogers.
Here to talk about draft prospects.
Another Stockwatch episode here on NFL Stock Exchange.
We're talking about guys who are stock up, stock down,
giving you the quarterback carousel around all.
of college football and what that means for the 2026 NFL draft. And of course, as we always do
in Stockwich episodes, we're going to give you a new name each to the table that we haven't talked
about in summer scouting or that we haven't talked about yet this season. Connor, how are we doing
my friend? I'm great, man. How are you guy on the right? Yeah, we're doing, we're doing great.
The Twitter mentions are great. Everything's great. Everybody's really happy about everything that's
going on. Don't you love being the main character online? Very fun. There is,
always every day as the parable goes every day there is a main character on twitter and the
goal is to not be it that's that's i wake up every day and i don't have any other goals i don't
ever have any other goals i just want to host my shows laugh a couple times and be left alone on
the internet that's it that's it and talks and prospects right yeah which is man i was peeking in our
doc today this is the most excited i've been for a stock up show i know we have got i know we said
we each bring one new name to the table we got multiple new names of the table we've got new names that
we're bringing in in the quarterback carousel that we're going to start the show with because we
obviously start the show with that we've got new names in the in the the stock up format and then
of course like just for the end like for the structure of the show we have that plus uh i forgot
to send out the tweet damn what was i doing today right well tell me what's telling me
And I forgot to send out the tweet.
You fell into the vortex of being on the internet and responding to people.
Yeah, it's a tough scene for me.
It's tough scene for your boy.
By the way, the comments are saying Peter's falling off.
Wait, why is Peter, how's Peter falling off?
His logo's not on the screen.
Oh.
The fall off of Peter needs to be studied.
That's from Peter.
That's from Peter.
No, that's from Peter.
Peter can't study his own fallout.
The NFL Peter Exchange.
That's from Jelly Bean.
Thank you, Montel. I'm not going to read the full name. But big fan of you guys, keep up the great work. Thank you for the super chat. Yeah, appreciate it. Appreciate it. Very nice. What was it going to say after this? I was going to say something.
The show, it's not tweeted out. No one's watching. No, hey, hold on. Whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa. We got the addicts in the chat. We're marching on today. And I just, I thought about this. I don't have to tweet out, hey, shout out your favorite prospect that could get in.
on the show because now we do the show is live right so they could do that here with us at the end
of the show so that'll make that'll force you guys to watch the entire show so the watch time goes
up so we can feed our families of course see it's business folks um Tony Lee I'm here for the
quarterback talk as a Jets fan the draft is all I have Tony that is uh how I actually ended up doing
what I do for a living I grew up a Jets fan a lot of our conversations
were typically about the draft
and that's how I fell in love with the draft.
So I feel you, brother.
And we're going to talk about a lot of quarterbacks today
and I get it.
It's on the radar for the Jets.
Ross says the show is brought to you by uncrustables.
Connor, don't lie to us.
Do you have an uncrustable within arm's reach?
I kid you not.
I smashed one 60 seconds before the show.
There it is.
Tired is eating an uncrustable during the commercial break.
Wired is having one
right before the music drops.
Now, I'm fueled.
It's impeccable timing.
It's too long of a show.
I need the fuel.
I haven't eaten since 8.30 a.m.
So.
I'm not going to lie.
Like, you look great.
But I know you so well that I could tell it's been a day.
Yeah.
Like, I just know you so well that I just, I just see it right now.
That it's been like, yes, take his ISO.
It's been a day.
Everybody in the chat,
give Trevor just a little extra love. Give me off the screen. Nobody wants to see this. I don't want to be
here anymore. No, I do. There's no place that I'd rather be about talking NFL football with you
and the rest of these addicts. Obviously, like, it's, it is all fun in games. In case anybody missed it,
the reason why we're talking about this and the reason why we're joking about it is on Maccabee's
show. He was talking about PFF grades and they were talking about PFF grades again, but they actually
did, thankfully, I'm actually very appreciative of this, showed a clip from the PFF NFL show of
Dalton and I talking about PFF grades and sort of explaining the Miles Garrett grade because
I know Steelers fans don't really like when Miles Garrett grades super well if he didn't do anything
in the box score and they think that we're super biased against their team, which we absolutely
aren't. So McAfee was like, it was talking about PFF grades, but he showed me specifically.
Like it was me talking on the show. And so there's just been a lot of back and forth of PFF grades.
And I think that a lot of people have misconceptions about PFF grades anyways, but that is not
what we're talking about here.
about this with people offline we i would i would honestly i would love to go on path show
and have the ability to sort of clear up some misconceptions because i think there's a lot of things
that people think about pf and pff grades that are not true or it's partially not true or whatever
it is i'd love to just have a conversation with them about it because i do think the process
that the pf has for their grades where we will all admit are not universal truths truth is pretty
cool. So anyways, this is not the time
of the place for that, but that's to get
everybody in on the inside joke. That's why we're kind
of, why I'm a little bit loopy
here to start this episode, because I've been dealing with that
the entire afternoon. But
we do. It's how to bring you back to life.
What'd you say? It's time to bring you back
to life. Yeah, talking about draft prospects.
Hell yeah. That's why we're here. To why we're here.
All right, so let's get into it. Let's talk
about the quarterback carousel. And
you and I
pre-plan this. I know that that's
sacrilegious here around these parts.
planning the show before we actually do the show.
But we did want to talk about one quarterback in particular,
what we were doing our quarterback Harrison.
And that is Jade Maiappa, the quarterback from USC.
Jacoby Lane comes into the season, the wide receiver from USC.
He comes into the season maybe some people's wide receiver won,
in some people's top five for wide receivers.
Mackay Lemon, everybody knows he was my wide receiver one.
And so I think it's natural to think,
hey, a quarterback's having a really good year with these two guys throwing the ball.
It's not too difficult to do.
But after actually spending some time and building out Jaden Miava scouting report,
this dude does have a lot that he is bringing to the table from an NFL draft perspective.
So I would love for you to start this one.
Kick us off.
Talk to us about Jaden Miava, the quarterback at USC this season.
Yeah, man, this has been an offense.
It's been really fun to watch.
And when you look at Miava, who is a red shirt junior, as you see up on the screen there,
he was previously at UNLV.
I know he's from Hawaii.
He's a big bodied guy.
Like he's 6.4.2.30.
The first thing I wrote in my scouting notes was I actually think he can hold more weight.
It's just how big of a frame he has.
I really think it wouldn't shock me at the NFL level if he's playing at 240 pounds.
He has that kind of frame.
The comfort and confidence in this offense.
So our game Saturday night, our late game, we had a doubleheader.
Our late game was USC Michigan.
And to me, prepping for this game, it was the most interesting game we had of the year to prep for even more so than Penn State, Oregon, because of the contrast of the teams.
Michigan is a team that they want to be an aggressive, defensive team with Wink, and you know they're going to want to run the ball, and then Underwood could make a couple plays here or there for a freshman, which is really impressive.
USC is the type of team that there was questions about their defense, especially the ability to stop the run.
but you know they have the most explosive offense in the country where Trevor,
going into that game,
my Ava was averaging 11 yards per attempt.
I know.
Per attempt.
So you sit back and you're like, okay, what is going on here?
And quite frankly, they have a three-headed monster in the past game that he can
distribute the ball to.
Jacoby Lane, obviously our guy, Mackay Lemon here, your summer favorite, and the
tight end Lake McCree.
So they are willing to just throw the ball around the yard.
And Myabba's confidence and ability to do that, he's not the fastest guy.
He's not the twitchiest guy.
He is a bigger passer.
What's funny about him, I don't think he's a power thrower for his size.
I think he's a touch thrower.
I think he can layer these throws.
He can drop throws in.
He has confidence in how to attack different zone coverages that he sees really well.
So going into that game, I really liked USC going into the game.
In that game, that was my pregame hit because they want to drag you into a track meet.
And if you have the offense to keep up with them like Illinois did,
you could survive it, which by the way, USC Notre Dame is going to be cinema this weekend.
But because of the offenses they have.
But if you don't have the offense and they do drag you into that track meet,
they're just impossible to keep up with.
And I think that's so much of the point guard aspect that Myabah is doing.
right now where he can hit the big throws, but his ability to distribute the ball on time
to his playmakers has been so wildly impressive for a college player to me, Trevor.
Yeah, look, I was more impressed than I thought that I was going to be going after going through
his film. And I know you and I, sometimes we bring different quarterbacks to the table,
but both of us wanted to get eyes on him as we talked about him here for this show.
You mentioned he's a bigger dude. I think he's got NFL size, but I agree with you. He's,
he's listed at 230 man he looks like he could put he's huge 10 15 more pounds on him and like
have more power something that i you know noted in the scouting report is uh i watched i think it was
two plays one of them specifically was a tush push type of a play and it's like all right he doesn't
really have the leg mass to be doing that he's no jailing hurts and then there was another one
where i think it was just a qb draw up the middle where once he gets to the line of scrimmage he's
not super confident the lower body power that he has to you know keep running through contact and
thing. So I think he could add a little bit more weight to his frame. But in terms of what he does
really well, it's impressive NFL stuff that I think he does really well, really fundamentally sound
passer. I mean, I think that you see, and this isn't a, this isn't a kiss of death nowadays, but
you see a lot of quarterbacks do the sidearm thing. They just want to, they just want to sidearm it
all the time. And I think with the sidearm, there's a lot of variance that can happen with that
when you sort of abbreviate your throwing motion in that way or you you change the angle of it.
And so I don't always love it for guys.
Myava is very much like an over the top of the shoulder type of passer.
It's very repeatable.
It's something that it's a longer throwing motion.
And that's something I wish that he could go to a shortened throwing motion.
You know how like pitchers have their long wind up if nobody's on first?
And then they have their abbreviated wind up when there's somebody on the bases because they got to be able to get the ball out of their hands
because they don't want to get a base stolen on them.
That's kind of an analogy where I wish when pressure was dialed up,
Maiava had a little bit of an abbreviated throwing motion,
but he kind of doesn't right now.
All that to say, though,
you mentioning the touch that he could have on his passes
and how he layers throws.
He is one of the best guys that I've watched in this class
at being able to take off velocity on a throw
and increase touch and just having that variance of like,
okay this pass I need about 40% touch okay this pass I need about 20% okay this pass I need about
60 needs to be lofted a little bit longer for my guy to come underneath it he does an excellent
job of doing those things and so great point I was I loved that about his game I really did
he goes through full field reads which is not a guarantee for a lot of these quarterbacks
but every drive it's not like they like sprinkled in it's it's the whole offense he will sit
there and he will go through progressions and even get to that backside dig route or that
backside concept where it's a single receiver to his left when there's trips to his right.
Like he, he is willing to stand in the pocket and scan the field.
Now, some of the negatives I've talked about a little bit there.
I don't think he has a greatest arm.
I think he has an adequate arm, but I don't think he has like top tier arm talent.
Something else from him is he's not going to be this like escape artist at the NFL level.
He is a pocket passer, in my opinion.
You see some scramble plays from him in college,
but I think you won't see very many of them in the NFL.
And this one factor that I really hope that he gets better at,
because if he does, I think he can be a really great pastor.
When pressure is closing in on him,
he likes to hang him tough in the pocket, which I can appreciate.
But I wanted to be a little bit lighter on his feet
because there was an example of a throw.
I can't even remember who he was throwing it to.
But it was a throw where he was looking left,
and he's throwing it left.
but the left tackle is getting collapsed
into where he is in the pocket
and I just wish that he would have
and he ends up throwing the ball
and it ends up being a miss
because it's a little rushed
and he's trying to avoid the offensive tackle
who's now right in his face
just give me a little
dude
just get just give me a little bit of a veer
give yourself a little bit more space
be a little bit lighter on your toes
get that base and then let the ball go
that's how you can get even more consistent
passer out of him so
he reminded me a lot of Davis Mills I know some people I know some people are like whoa that's not number one overall caliber and yeah that's sort of the realm that I'm talking about with him but Davis Mills is somebody who's been able to come in play games decently well start for you win some games for you now obviously he's not a full-time starter and Maya has the chance to I think be better than what Davis Mills has been at the NFL level but I think at worse that feels like what he is because of the tools that he has and how he approaches the game so if he continues to get better obviously the competition
gets a little bit higher, and the ceiling gets a little bit higher.
But that's sort of how I view Jaden Maiava from USC.
Yeah, I liked what you said about his different throws.
To me, I just, I wrote in the notes.
It's like he's kind of mastered the nine iron.
It's just this guy that when he needs loft on the ball,
he has that in his bag.
And it's just so natural to him.
I mean, he'd be a guy that like,
if you were doing the bucket toss challenge and needed a teammate,
you would, you would love to have this dude as,
your partner. So he's playing really well. He doesn't have to declare if he doesn't want to.
He could keep growing in this offense. And it's been a really, really good year in this
offense. So we're going to see where it goes from here. But USC can make a statement against
Notre Dame this weekend. They really can. Man, we got a ton of super chats. I'm going to get to
these. And before we get to our next guy here, Jeff, $5 super chat, we appreciate you.
He said, Peter, wait, who's Peter fell off? Jeez. Love you guys. Appreciate it. Addix Unite.
Andrew with the $5 super chat. He said, Malik,
Washington best freshman quarterback in the country
I think he said suck at Michigan
I obviously won't say that on the show
yeah he said that in the super chat he said that in the super chat
we love Michigan around here
just letting you guys know but
Malik Washington does look pretty good from
he's a lot of fun to watch
so does the Cal kid I don't even know his name
the kid with the hyphen name yeah he's been going
off since right out of the gate
yeah um
Brandon five dollar super chat he said
Drew Aller body bagging
is set to be in full of
effect and I'm here for it.
What do you realistically think happens with him?
Like, I'm not going to say bodybagging, but.
Well, he has to declare.
He does, in theory.
Let me just, let me just make that.
In theory.
It's probably the time of year to do this again.
I thought Diego Pavia had to declare last year as well.
We saw that happen.
Trevor and I will like to remind everybody that even when a player is officially out of
eligibility, they're not.
Never doubt what the NCAA can do or want to do.
So in theory, Drew Aller is in this draft.
We will see.
Yep.
We'll dig into all that when we do the final eval for them, but we appreciate it.
I mean, my gut feel is, even after everything that's happened,
there'll be a team that drafts his tools in the third round.
Yeah, that's kind of the range.
That's like my very from a far take right now.
Logan is $5 super chat.
Appreciate you.
Said, where does Judarian Price project in this draft?
Oh, very interesting.
Stay around, Logan.
stay around almost jumped out of my chair on that one you were pumped about that one yeah stick around
uh super pony five dollar super chat says any chance mendoza stays uh in indiana and falls to my cult
i'm delusional yes you are uh no i mean i don't think so i don't know why he would stay
and i don't know why he'd follow the cults who are your cults are really good and i think
Shane Steichen loves Daniel Jones.
He's not going to last that long.
Hunter Campbell gave us a 13-19-9 Super Chat.
I like staying weird.
That's good.
Interesting number, but we do very much appreciate that and her super chat.
He says, my contribution towards the Uncrustible and Yacht Fund, bear down, baby.
Okay, I'll bear down, yeah.
Is the Bear Down, hold on.
Is he a Cal fan or a Chicago Bears?
This is the, yeah, that's the problem.
There's also like some smaller universities that do the Bear Down.
So, Hunter, Hunter, let us know.
I actually have no idea if Montana State.
is the Bears, but I said I don't, I don't think they are.
I'm not going to back off it.
Yeah, I didn't want to kill your vibe.
I know, I'm not going to back off it.
QJ said, Connor, I apologize for what my Panthers are going to do to your jets.
Keep pounding, 45 to 3.
Oh, my God, QJ.
Listen, Uncle Rico, he didn't say buckle up to the Jets.
He said to the Cowboys, but I'm not going to doubt him.
Very true.
QJ, if it ends up being exactly 45 to 3, you start a YouTube live stream and we'll super chat, you $5.
100%.
I'll send you 15.
Screw it.
I can't do that.
What are you trying to put me underwater?
You need lawyers against Pat McAfee right now.
No, no, no.
We don't need lawyers against Pat McAfee.
Zulets with the $5 super chat said,
I really hope that Carlos Allen Jr.
gets a recognition he deserves Houston defense to tackle.
Haven't watched him.
I got to watch him.
And I haven't watched Andrew with the $5 super chat said,
we need Cole Payton in the simulator,
NDSU's quarterback.
Dolly Parton connection?
What?
Peyton to Lance
that has my head spinning.
Yeah, I'm lost on that one.
I know who he's talking about,
like the players,
but Dolly Parton,
all right.
Got nothing.
All right, let's move on.
I'll DM Harbs.
He's a friend of the show,
so I need to get to the bottom of this.
O.G. Addic.
We're going to read the rest of the super chats,
but let's get to another quarterback here.
Oh, 9 to 5 is her song,
and that's their numbers.
Trevor and I are, yeah, sorry, we're sorry.
I'm as familiar with Dolly Parton's catalog as I am, Jake Gyllenhaal.
Just so everybody out there has a good.
Yeah, I don't have, kind of where we're at here.
Dolly Parton is not in my arsenal.
We're going to tie Simpson next?
You want to talk about Ty Simpson?
I think we, I think it's Ty Simpson time.
A lot of people talking about Ty Simpson.
So we've had him in the middle of the first round when we did our most recent mock draft,
about a week and a half ago, whatever it was.
And I actually put him number one overall,
to your New York Jets in the latest mock draft
that I wrote for pff.com yesterday.
Now, obviously, like, I say this in the blurb.
There's not a quarterback that is this like home run.
Yeah, of course, you're taking number one overall.
But the Jets, if they're picking number one overall,
they're going to take a quarterback.
And Ty Simpson's been playing really well.
Specifically, you've got the numbers here on the screen,
how he played versus Missouri.
Now, the passing grade wasn't fantastic.
It was just a 68.7, but there's context to that,
as there is everything at PFF.
he was 23 for 31 for 200 passing yards he had three big time throws in this game one turn of worthy play
and so you may may say well hold on three big time throws and only one turn where we play how is it a 68.7
passing grade he took he took four sacks in this game three of them were absolutely on him
and that goes into your passing grade because that's who you are as a passer you are holding out of the
ball you are navigating the pocket you were scanning the the play deep down the field that's not a
rushing grade type of a thing.
If you get sacked in the pocket
while you're scanning the field
while you are a passer
that goes into your passing grade.
So three of the four
of those sacks were on him,
but I do want to point out,
85.5 passing grade
on third and fourth down,
including an absolute beauty
to the sideline.
That was probably the throw of the game there.
Oh my goodness.
The fourth down in the fourth quarter?
Good Lord.
Gorgeous.
A little bit of an escape to his left,
getting out of the pocket.
Just a seed.
right where it needs to go to his receiver.
It was such a beautiful throw.
I think Ty Simpson is legitimately in the QB1 conversation.
Definitely.
How he has played?
How do you feel about him?
I'm with you all the way.
I just caught up on all of his tape in the last two days.
I watched him before we did the big boards.
And I saw a couple games and I was like, yeah, it's real.
And now doing the full watch, like how we do for quarterback rankings,
because I knew we were going to have a long combo about him.
today there's a lot to like and this is going to open the conversation here of somebody that
sat for three years at a program as a five star recruit and now looks ready for prime time right
that's what's interesting to me this is somebody that just because he hasn't been a starter
he's been in that room he's been a backup he's prepared like a starter and i think the mental
aspects of the game notably what he sees pre snap and how he handles
are very, very evident in his game, where he can recognize protection.
He can recognize blitzes and set protections.
He could throw into hot areas where he understands if blitzer's going to come from,
and he can have a route into that area and how to attack it.
And he's got a lot of talent.
It's not just this is a guy that just wins with his brain.
This is somebody that, to me, is absolutely fearless throwing into tight windows.
He challenges defenders.
He says, okay, I know you're there, but go find the football.
I think my guy's going to win the football.
You brought up the fourth and eight throw against Missouri in the fourth quarter.
That throw to me was the pinnacle of somebody that understands anticipation with accuracy.
He's going to throw the ball before the route breaks off to the sideline.
And he's just putting the ball on guys with ease.
It's just so natural to him.
That's what stood out.
And I think the velocity on those intermediate throws, like the snappy velocity he generates is relatively effortless.
So I don't think he's got this like howitzer deep ball,
but I don't think he needs that kind of,
that kind of, you know, throw in in his arsenal right now.
So I've been wildly impressed.
I think this is somebody playing at a mentally high level and physical high level right now.
And I think he is every bit of what you said, Trevor,
right there with Mendoza and Dante Moore in this combo of being the first quarterback
taken in the draft of he keeps this up.
And something I said on badlands because all the Jets fans are now asking about the quarterback,
class nonstop, no surprise.
I said the beauty of this is, there's a good chance.
I know, right?
There's a good chance.
The beauty, he says.
The beauty of this is, we are going to most likely see Ty Simpson, Dante Moore, and Fernando
Mendoza playing in college football playoff games.
And that type of setting is just amazing for an evaluator to get in their roll-a-x of tape.
Yeah, I mean, Carson Beck's going to play in it as well.
not that Carson Beck's like a number one overall
Yeah but you want to see them in that
Right right I mean LSU has a chance I still think
I can't remember what LSU's record is
This playoff is very open to multi-lossed teams
Because of how weird the season's been
Yeah and I think that the the points that you brought up again
About Ty Simpson are good and I think we can expand a little bit more on
On one of the terms that I use to talk about Jade Maya and it's layered throw
So when we talk about layered throws guys what we're really meaning is
you have the defensive line, which is the first level, the linebacker level, which is the second
level, and then you have the safeties, which is the third level, when you're looking
sort of down the spine of the field and the spine of the defense, if you will. A layered
throw, or one that we would categorize as like a layered throw, because I'm sure there's
different types of layer throws, would be in between the second and third level. So it is
behind the linebackers, but before the safeties. Those are incredibly difficult throws to make
especially when the defense sort of knows it's coming,
because like we talked about with Miyaba,
you have to be able to put the right amount of pace yet touch
on the football to get it over the linebackers,
but into the hands of your receivers before the safeties get there.
Ty Simpson is really good at these throws,
and he will attempt these throws.
Now, that's why,
and the reason why we bring up the context of layered throws,
is because if you'll remember how we talked about quarterback evaluation last year,
something that I like to do is I like to look at how quarterbacks attack the mid intermediate
middle of the field yeah and often that will sort of naturally give you a lot of those layered
throws but sometimes it doesn't sometimes they're still sort of just in rhythm throws if you have
like a quick post route okay well that's not really a layered throw that's going in that
intermediate middle of the field you're just waiting for the post to kind of cut and you're still
throwing a rope and a timing route right on them.
So that's not really the point.
It's sort of the point, but not as much of the point as you would want to see with these layered
throws.
So that's why we bring the extra context into account, because being able to layer these
throws is so paramount to putting stress on a defense.
Layered throws could also be kind of to the outside.
There's those whole shots as well in between the corners and the safeties on the
outside when you get to the sideline.
It's throws like that that put so much.
much stress on the defense. And the reason why we talk about Ty Simpson is potentially the best
quarterback in that class is because he does those difficult things pretty regularly, I feel
like, on a week-to-week basis. So that's a, that's, here's an example, right? The game against
Alabama, think of the last throw that Bo Probula threw, the interception. That was a failed,
layered throw because he was trying to get right behind. I can't remember if it was the
linebacker, or maybe it was the apex or slot defender.
He was trying to get it past them, but before the safety.
And he just put a little too much juice on it, flies over his hand, the receiver's hand,
and goes straight to the safety.
That's an example of a layered throw that wouldn't work that we're sort of talking about
here, because if you hit that throw, guess what?
You're on Alabama side of the field.
You're really cooking.
You could be winning that game.
Some of the most difficult throws that you could have, but Ty Simpson attempts a lot of those.
Anything else on Ty Simpsons before we get back to some of these.
super chaps? No, we got
I think 14 to get through, so
we're burning, we're burning through. Shane, $5 super chat
he said, first of all, big fan guy, big fan guys,
as the co-host of fan-sided Steelers
podcast would welcome you on the show
to talk about how Peter football-focused grades really work. Shane,
I would love to come on the show with you. We can get in contact.
I have no problem talking.
Steelers, draft, PFF grades, anything,
would love to come on your show. The Flash,
$4.99. 499.
said, I just started as a part-timer at PFF. Do you guys have any advice for continuous growth
in the industry? Also, fins up, I guess. Hey, come on. Come on. Fins up. It might be like a draft
season kind of fins up, but fins up. You know, you can do that. I would say that there's a lot
of fantastic, really smart people that work at PFF, and I would always try to communicate with
those guys as much as possible. Forge those relationships. So maybe if you love what you do,
maybe it could become a full-time thing with PFF. And maybe if you end up finding something else,
keep those connections. You can keep those relationships. It's kind of the same thing
that I would tell anybody. Meet as many people as you possibly can. There's a lot of
really smart people in this industry. I know PFF has a lot of them as well. I am friends
with them. I talk to them all the time. I would encourage you to build those relationships from
within as a part-time PFF person. Also, welcome to the fam. John $10 super chat says with James
Franklin, Andrew Aller injured. Wait, hold on. I missed it. Oh, do you think Alar will be the
starting QB of the FIU Panthers or the Akron Zips next season.
Come on now.
Come on.
Don't do a guy like that.
That's dirty.
Come on.
Come on, John.
No, I think he's going to the NFL.
I really do.
I don't think he has a choice.
Again, in theory.
I know, I know.
Jay Wax says, if you guys looked at, who is this, Matine?
Ibaragba.
Baragwa?
From Wake, I haven't watched very clearly from me not being able to pronounce the last name.
I love the show.
I will.
I finally make it live.
Appreciate you, Jay Wack.
I'll get them on the list.
As who says that?
That's a, that's a Chris Jericho thing, right?
You just made the list.
Yeah, you made the list.
Malik Washington will save the Jets in 20, 28, says Andrew.
God, I hope Connor has better football to watch before.
Yeah, I don't have that in me.
Sorry, not entertaining it.
So, Lindsay, $10, super chat.
We appreciate you.
said told the girl next to me on my flight that Alim McNeil's return against the bucks
would hit like crack got the silent treatment weird glare and I'm wolfing down the airplane
cookies the airplane cookie sounds like you know never it's a cookie you whoa whoa hope wait
wait no you don't eat it no I opt for any other snack available yeah but what if they're just
handing to the cookie that's a that's a disgrace in the airline will you take the cookie if
that's all they're offering you it depends what kind of
I'm in. If I'm in like a lone survivor mode, like I didn't have time to eat at the airport.
I have a, I have a very long flight and a, and I'm landing in one of the airports that is not a long
drive from my house, but with the chaos of the traffic and getting a ride. Like, I know it's going to be
a while. Yes, I will take the desperation cookie. But do I have options? By the way, it's also just
disgrace if the airline doesn't have an option besides the cookie. Can you give me snack mix?
see you know this is coming off as biscoff cookie slander and i'm not i'm just not here for it
and i'm just i'm not i'm not going to stand for it it's i'm not going to stand it's fine but
it's not no on the flight you know how many times i've been in a caloric deficit and i'm on
the flight and i'm looking for one lifeline just one lifeline and if nobody in this life's got me
I know that a gingerail and a Biscoff cookie on a flight's got me.
Okay, that's fair.
It can revitalize you.
Yeah, yeah.
That's where we're at.
Man, man, people in the chat love the Biskaw cookie.
Good.
Good.
This is a tough way for me to find out about this.
That I'm a freak.
Am I the joke?
Matt saying Biskopf absolutely stinks?
There we go.
It's definitely not my first option, Matt.
I'm with you.
I pray for times like these when the snack mix option is out there.
Do you see what Peter said?
He said,
Connor's hating Biskoff like Troy Akeman level Hayley.
Here's a little fun fact.
Troy, I think is my favorite color guy for football because of when he has those moments of disgust.
Where he just crashes out.
I think it's amazing.
I think it's lost art on TV.
We almost have one of those moments with Kurt Warner with your jazz.
And which seems very hard to do to a man like Kurt Warner.
Dude.
It seems like a pretty nice fella and pretty happy about life.
And that's what the Jets will do to a man.
That's what they'll do to a man.
Like I said, between this and the Bisc golf cookie,
I might be becoming the Joker.
See, here we go.
Hans says in the chat, ginger ale and salted peanuts slash pretzels hits insanely different at 30,000 feet.
I always get the pretzels as well.
Yeah, nice.
I like that.
Yeah, I mean, you got to spike the salt.
it a little bit especially if you're going in for a for a workout afterwards you got to make sure
the year the caloric deficit that was a great drop at the show five dollar tuber chat from conner is lemon
the best wide receiver prospect out of USC above arm on ross st brown london pitman addison the real
wide receiver you no i good good discussion though wouldn't put them about well who they were coming
out versus who they are in the NFL is a little bit different but I would tell you that I
like Lemon more than all, I liked all of those guys coming out, except for Drake London.
I love, I love Drake London.
You, yeah, I think I definitely like London more than I currently like Lemon.
I liked Jordan Addison a lot.
But I think I'll like Lemon more because I think Lemon is more versatile than the prospect
Addison was.
Yeah.
All right.
We'll get to, we'll get to more of the Super Chat.
We got to get to another quarterback who's got a handful.
Oh, by the way, before we get to.
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to quarterbacks. Can we just talk about John Mateer really quick? Yeah.
Shouldn't have played, man. I mean, that's what it comes down to. It's like this isn't, for
anyone wondering this isn't a oh man john meteer's not good like if you watch that game and you just
sat there like i you know what he he never was anything but he chose to play and you know you
you do have to unfortunately kind of reap the the problems of of that so here were his stats
i like that he should not have played this game no i i i may i i had tyler put that in there
because we needed to make sure that that was known he was 20 for 38 in this game 2002 passing yards
31.4 passing grade, not great.
Zero big time throws, equally not great.
Four turnover of the play is super not great.
Not great.
29.1 passing grade under pressure.
He didn't have the arm, man.
No.
And it's not like, it's not like Mateer's Josh Allen anyways.
Mateer's arm strength was always like sort of adequate for the NFL level.
It wasn't anything that was crazy special.
when you have a wrist and a hand injury
that you are recovering from
and trying to go out there and play
so quickly after you had the surgery,
you're taking away from that arm talent
that already was sort of just adequate.
I just, I can't, I cannot believe
that they played him in this game
given what he was.
I just, because in practice,
there's no way it looked better, right?
Right.
I just, I'm mad for material.
It's definitely irresponsible.
I think he's a good NFL draft prospect,
and now we're just going to have to deal with a lot of the aftermath of this game,
and I think that it sucks.
And look, I get it.
I'm not trying to,
I'm not trying to act like I don't understand the magnitude of this game.
It's the Red River rivalry or the Red River Showdown.
I don't know what we're calling it these days.
It's John Mateer's in his only year at Oklahoma.
He wants to play in this game.
Venables needs this game.
I get it.
I get all of those things.
But I just think to Connor, he clearly shouldn't have played.
No, it was very obvious.
It was nothing like the player we saw against Michigan
and all the games he had played.
But, you know, part of me tips my cat
for him being that tough for a game
that means everything to them.
And then part of me feels like the program
should have protected the player from himself.
And I know that's easier.
It's easier for me sitting here to say that
than actually being in that program.
so but I this to me I don't take away like significant scouting notes from this game I just
hope the guy can get healthy and honestly the injury and all the positive momentum he had before
that probably just increases the likelihood that he's back next year could be like why you're in a
place you're really happy you're playing your best football he's not a red shirt senior is he
no I believe he's a junior I'm almost positive he's a junior
Definitely not a red shirt.
He's a redshirt junior.
Redshirt Jr.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Yeah, Mattier most likely, you know,
at a program like that,
you'd make a ton of money to go back to school.
I think I would imagine,
I would imagine he returns.
But crazier things have happened.
Brandon Sorsby.
Can I talk about Brandon Shoresby before we went on to our,
yeah, I saw this name in there and I was excited that,
you know, a different conversation.
at quarterback. So Cincinnati quarterback, Brendan Sorsby, he's been playing really, really well this
year. And this is the first year where he has really stood out. So we'll kind of give you the tail of the
tape here. Six foot three, two hundred and thirty five pounds. Redshirt Jr. at Cincinnati.
He previously played at Indiana, played in 2022 and 2023, although I think he played sparingly,
if I remember that correctly. Redshirted that first year. And then maybe started like four games
the year after, if I'm remembering correctly. Maybe I'm getting that mixed up with my Ava.
but anyways, he spent most of his time as a starter at Cincinnati.
Last year, he was fine, but his big time throw rate and his turnover-worthy play rate
were about even last year.
So he was fine.
He makes some big plays for you, but he definitely makes some mistakes as well.
This year, man, he's a lot better.
88.3 passing grade this season, 14 passing touchdowns, one interception,
11 big-time throws and just three turnover-worthy plays.
He's got a 70.9 adjusted completion percentage,
an 11.1 average you have to target and an 80.0 passing grade under pressure.
There are definitely things to like about Brendan Sorsby, who he gives you a little bit of
athleticism to him as well. He's a former baseball player. He played baseball in football
when he was in high school. And you can kind of see that natural athleticism there for him
and how he throws the ball, how he carries the football as a little bit of a dual threat.
Now, I say dual threat. He's kind of a dual threat in college. I don't really think he's going to be
a dual threat in the NFL, but he's somebody who, I think his game's very similar to that
of Jackson Dart, to be honest with you, where he gives you a little bit of that added
athleticism. He wants to be that big game hunter down the field. And a lot of the pros and the
cons read like Jackson Darts Scouting Report. I'll get to the strengths and weaknesses. I feel like
that's probably the best way to just summarize what he does. From watching a couple of games of
his adequate size to play quarterback in the NFL. I mentioned six foot three,
two hundred thirty five pounds. I think he's definitely built for it in that regard.
Natural athlete as a runner and with his throwing motion as well. He has got a
snappy quick release that's got some good power and some good zip on it. So that ball's
coming out quick. It's coming out snappy and it's going to its target with some pretty good
pace. He's got that decent mobility from an escape standpoint. He's got that RPO experience to
him and and he likes to hunt deep down the field. He likes to be somebody who the average up the
target is up this year he wants to complete those those big time passes that mean the most that go
towards scoring points getting into field goal range scoring touchdowns things like that he has that
sort of mentality to him now here's some of the weaknesses because i like the baseline of kind of
what he could bring to the table but this is where in my opinion he has to improve that big game
hunting style leads to him missing open underneath rounds there are too many times when i was
watching him, Connor, that
like he's
looking at the
half of the field where
there is a receiver
underneath for five yards that you go
need to, need to just
attempt this pass to get five or
seven yards here. And he is instead
just looking deep, locking on deep
and he doesn't even, if the deeper
receiver is not open, he just tucks it
and runs. He doesn't give his guys a chance
in open space. He's not often getting to that
second progression. So that big
game hunting style is actually a negative when he pairs it with his athletic ability because
he misses those underneath an easier throw that he needs to hit. He's got a little bit of a
shortened follow-through. There's a little bit of a flare. There's a little bit of pizzazz where I said
like the throwing motion is quick, but sometimes he'll kind of like stop it like right here instead
of fully follow through. And that leads to some true ball placement and accuracy issues with him.
As you can see, the adjusted completion percentage, barely over 70 this season.
It was below 70 last year.
And really, you wanted an adjusted completion percentage that's mid-70s, high 70s in college.
That's what you would love going to the NFL.
And yeah, it just doesn't take a lot of those easy throws that I think are there.
Whether it's in the progression or not, he is somebody who we praised Jaden Mayava for going through full-field reads.
Sorsby was not a guy who I saw make a lot of full-field reads.
it was hey where's the high low concept often i'm looking at the high concept if that's not there i'm
going to take off to run it works in college a little dangerous in the NFL and obviously jackson
dart has done good things for the giant's offense with his athletic ability but we haven't
exactly seen jackson dart be able to settle in to be the passer and the quarterback consistently
that he needs to totally early in that regard but i think that just for some people who might be like
whoa whoa hold on jackson dart was a first round pick and obviously the giants are much better
with him. They are much better with him, but we have yet to see one of those scenarios where we really
need for him to win as a passer from the pocket. And I think that that's just sort of the same
conversation that I'm having with Swordsby and how I see him and his successes and struggles
this season. I was laughing somebody in the chat. Let me find it. That's from Bork. Pair him with a
CTE defiant running back and he has a promising NFL future. I mean, I mean, yeah, that's that's,
That's, yeah, the player comp that I have.
Yeah, that's, that's how we got to that conclusion.
Let's find his scam, Cam Scadaboo.
Oh, one of one, baby.
There's only one.
There's only one Cam Scataboo.
All right.
We moving on.
I think it's stock up time for the non, for the non quarterbacks.
Oh, wait.
Let's do the, let's do a couple of super chats here because we're a little late to this.
Where are we here?
What's the last one?
Victor's giving us one.
Let's see.
Brazilian fan here, huge fan of the show.
You guys are the best in the business.
If I could suggest for the next mock,
it would be nice to have a honorable mention,
shout-out prospects for the teams without day one picks rise up.
So a Falcons fan there.
We can do that.
We can incorporate that a little bit more.
Actually, no, we won't because the Packers don't have a first-round pick.
So obviously, we're not going to do that because we're not going to.
That'd be called playing ourselves.
Mental Wall of Jericho there.
Peter.
Hold on.
We got two Peters giving Super Chats now.
Peter Kilmartin wants it on the presented by Peter.
Interesting.
Wow.
Interesting.
I'll read it.
Go ahead.
I'm mad enough.
Ty Simpson to the Eagles of things go really south.
Just so.
Wow.
Love the show boys.
No, Peter, we really appreciate it.
We're just messing with.
Hey, if you feel that way, the good news is you got somebody on the roster that they'd get a look at.
Another super chat chances of Nuss and Cade going first round.
I would be very shocked
if Cade Clubniko's first round at this point.
Oh, yeah.
Cade Club Nick has had one of the biggest falloffs
stockwise of anybody in this track class.
Yeah.
As for Nuss,
like he could, potentially.
I think he's outside of that realm right now,
in my opinion, but.
Jerr's giving us a $7 super chat.
Bet a few of my friends.
$50 each that the Pats would make the playoffs
just want to share some of my future winnings.
How generous.
Well, we appreciate it.
really appreciate it. And man, this podcast is quite high on Drake May in our prospect rankings.
Was he top five for you? Was Drake May top five for you? I think so, yeah.
Class. He was top five for me. It was three for me. I love Drake May. Now, it was a little bit
lower than I should have been on Jaden Daniels. But, you know, we're not going to bring that up
because we're just going to focus on the fact that I was high on Drake May. Now I need to look.
It'll drive me nuts. Jeff with the $5 super chat said, Trevor, we need a power of the dreads
soon, Zion Young from Missouri thought. He was sixth for me, Trevor.
Okay, all right.
So outside of the top five,
you obviously hated him.
You obviously hated him.
Yep.
You thought he was a bum, couldn't play.
Yep.
Had to have Malik neighbors and Brock Bowers ahead of him.
I'm sorry.
Hey, you like Zion Young.
You're a big Zion Young guy.
He's in your top 50.
Yeah.
Oh, we got a little Zion Young super chat.
Yeah.
Zion Young, my thoughts are,
and he was in my top 50 on the big board,
if you want to go back and listen to them there.
But I'll also, you know, I live to serve here.
He's just, he's a big bodied, heavy,
handed like base end kind of edge and those guys don't get the same kind of love as the pure
pass rushers during draft season because they're they're not flashy they don't file up the sacks
but when you need somebody to actually get you to third down because they're doing their job on
first and second down that's ion young so i'm a fan of the player and i think the nfl typically
a guy with those measurables and power profile they are also big fans of players like that um
Force Man 47 $5 Super Chat says,
Have you guys had a chance to watch Dary Mentsis tape this year?
I feel like if more sellers material,
I'll go back,
you could go pretty high,
avoid the 27 QB bloat.
What is 27 QB bloat?
That there's a lot of good quarterbacks
expected to be in the following year's draft.
Which, by the way,
I mean, we'll cross that bridge when we get there.
I just keep having this thought.
This quarterback class is more interesting
than people want to address.
admit right now. And it, yeah, it could change if nobody declares. But I also think now in the world
of NIL, everybody's like, well, he's not leaving yet. And it's like, no, quarterbacks leave all the
time. Yeah, yeah. All the time. If Drew Aller had a better college football playoff, he would
have left last year. So I, yes, there could be bloat there, but I think this year, this year could
be more crowded than people realize. Like, we just had a conversation about Ty Simpson with Dante
more in Fernando Mendoza.
Yeah.
So as for Darian Mentsa, we talked a lot about him over summer scouting for this year.
We had the Illinois Duke game, I believe.
But I know you and I talked a lot about that game.
We talked about the players in the trenches in that game.
I don't see Menta as a guy that would try to leave early to capitalize on draft positioning.
I think because of who he is physically, like he's just to me a day three-ish quarterback.
That's just my take right now.
That is what I thought of him going into the season.
I think he's played a little bit better,
but he has gone through.
Like I really do need to sit down and watch his game.
Yeah, we'll do our quarterback rankings.
Usually in December we do them.
And things do change a lot from there because you watch the full picture rather than like,
I watch the game here.
I watch the game there.
So yeah, we'll talk about Mentsa a lot for sure.
And it's an interesting question, although I just don't think we catch ourselves doing
that sometimes.
I don't know how often players do that.
I think they get feedback from the NFL, and they go based on that.
Like, I'm going to leave now because next year, there's all these guys.
Well, no, they leave now or not, depending on where we have them ranked when we do the show in December.
That's how prospects come to their decision process.
Of course.
Yes.
Right.
Last one that I'll read, and then we'll get back into it.
We'll get back into the prospects.
Austin Smith, $10 super chat says, not sure how he's viewed, quote, in the industry.
Nice.
but Caden Fagan, is that how you say his name?
Yeah.
From Illinois is so damn fun.
Does this take 6.3, 255?
He's like, he's Illinois's Braille and Allen is what he is.
He, yeah, he's huge, dude.
255, he's Braille and Allen.
If Braille and Allen ate Braden, Braille, Allen.
Yeah, he's, I think, yeah, 250, 245.
I like the hyperbole here from Austin, because it does like, it's sweet.
He's massive running back, though.
So I love the show, love the hair, praise Peter.
Yeah, we got to get more with you, Austin.
Just had to get that in there.
Okay, let's go.
Hyphenated name, Austin Smith, hyphenated.
Is this first name or his last name?
That's why I'm intrigued.
Or confused?
Intrigued, confused, flabbergasted?
We don't know.
Other adjectives?
All right, talk to us about your first stockup guy.
My first stockup player is Isaiah Jones, the linebacker from,
Indiana this Indiana front seven is the chaotic in the best possible way they all have really popped
but Isaiah Jones against Oregon I think this is his first year as a full-time starter Isaiah Jones
for Indiana I want to say I'll pull that up in a second he yeah so last year he played he only
started two games so first it's full-time starter now number 46 he was all over the place
against Oregon. As you see right here, he had a sack, he had a quarterback hit, he had a hurry,
he had an interception, he had two TFLs against the run. The play speed, he's about 6-1-2-30.
And this is what Indiana loves. Indiana loves this going in the portal or their own guys,
just the all of the play speed that they have to cause chaos in their front seven with their
different pressure packages and linebackers that could run sideline to sideline.
I thought Indiana's linebackers took over this game for a large portion of it and really
tried to make Oregon one-dimensional.
And Isaiah Jones was just in the middle of that, man.
You couldn't watch that game and not see him pop off the screen double-digit amount
of times.
Like, I just was writing down.
I'm like, who the hell is number 46?
It was crazy because I have watched.
How do we feel about 46 is the linebacker number?
It looks good on him, like in the Indiana uniform.
I don't love it in the NFL.
Yeah, feels like a training camp body kind of number.
It does.
NFL, I think, of 50, 55, 52.
Bart Scott, my co-worker wore 57, and like he made 57 kind of cool.
What are the best?
Yeah, the best linebacker numbers, I would agree.
55, obviously, Derek Brooks.
Yeah, honestly, Derek Brooks is the guy you think of with that for our generation.
55. 50, I think is strong.
I think 52 is strong, obviously.
I like 58.
yeah you know what's a funny one because i don't love this number but it's worn by a legend
erlacker wore 54 i don't mind 54 probably because of him but that's probably well and
lavante david again oh okay uh i don't but i think 54 is fine i think 54 is fine but honestly
50 52 54 55 58 or just wear a single digit number that's where i'm at
I'm not gonna lie
how the chat feel about it
I need to know how the chat feels about it
not gonna lie I don't
I don't love the single digit era
right now
I don't it's just
I don't know I just can't get used to it
it just doesn't
I this is my like I've become old
like I see a I see a dude fly around out there
and knock someone's head off and then he gets up
and it's like oh number zero
all right that's it come on
it's cool when we were like
creating players in Madden or EACFB.
In an actual field, it's, it's fine.
It's fine.
It's not bad.
I just,
I like myself the number 50 or 55.
Anyway,
I knew,
speaking of,
I knew about his teammate,
Aidan Fisher,
who wears four and flies around and makes plays.
And you think he's a bump?
No,
I think he's got bad decision making.
Because he wears number four.
I do think for Isaiah Jones,
he's too good to be wearing four.
It's a fair point.
But yeah, he's a maniac and he's done himself.
Hold on a favor.
Hold on.
Bork said I was number 46 in high school and played linebacker.
Trevor just said I was unplayable.
Damn.
Sorry, Bork.
Well, you share a number with Isaiah Jones, who's awesome.
So maybe you were pretty damn good.
Set the tape.
We'll break it down.
What do I know?
Nothing.
All right, Trevor, who do you got?
Bishop Fitzgerald, the safety from USC.
He's the guy that I don't want to talk about because he was brought up by the addicts.
as somebody that we should have here on this show and get to talk about.
So I figured that I would set the table for Mr. Fitzgerald, which, by the way,
Bishop Fitzgerald, what a name.
What a fantastic name.
It's really good.
It sounds like a war commander.
It absolutely, cool.
Yeah, it does.
Like, I'm riding, I'm riding into battle behind Bishop Fitzgerald.
Dude, I'd have an insane amount of confidence.
I'm not afraid to get shot by a musket.
as long as Bishop Fitzgerald is in front of me.
Have you watched the Band of Brothers miniseries?
I mean, I watch it every year.
Okay.
Every year.
Thank you.
Thank you.
You know how the whole morale of the entire team was up if Lieutenant Spears was out
there on the field of battle with those guys?
Yes, Spears totally changed the entire dynamic of the locker room.
That's how I feel if I'm lined up with Bishop Fitzger.
It's so true.
That's how I feel.
Oh, man.
He's quickly becoming a character of the show.
Jared says sounds like a British aristocrat named me.
I just laugh at that word every time.
Tyson says Fitzbishop.
Fitzbishop.
Whatever.
I'm moving on to the analysis.
That's the analysis.
Can you imagine if that's all we said about him?
I don't need any more.
I'm drafting them in the second round.
I would draft this war commander.
I don't even know what position he plays.
Okay, he's five foot.
a C on his chest in OTAs?
Who the hell is this?
He's a new team captain.
He's a rookie in OTAs.
That's Colonel Bishop Fitzgerald.
Yeah, instead of the C on the chest for captain,
it's just whatever the colonel symbol is.
They've elevated him.
He's beyond that.
A G with five stars.
He's the five star general of the team.
He's 511-205.
He's a red shirt senior.
He previously played at NC State.
But Connor, before that, he played at Coffeyville Community College.
a junior college.
And he's been through some stuff.
So it's been a winding road to get to this point,
but he's playing some really good ball.
91.7 overall defensive grade this season,
78.1 run defense grade, 90.9 coverage grade.
He's got five interceptions.
This year, he's got 11 interceptions in his career.
So that's really over the last three years
because I only looked at the NC State years as well.
He's played 99 snaps of free safety,
83 snaps as a box defender,
and then 51 snaps in the slot.
When I watched his tape, as you would expect with him predominantly playing the free safety
spot, he does a really good job in space from the back end. I think he's really great at playing
that robber role. He's got really good anticipation and instincts for where these
in breaking routes are coming from, the timing of them, being able to jump in front of them,
get his hands on the football, or even get an interception in some instances. And obviously
he's got five already in six games, which is pretty incredible. So he's doing an excellent job
of that. I think that he's a fine athlete. I think he's a decent athlete. I don't think he's a crazy
athlete for a single high center fielder type of a player. If you're going to play him in that
free safety role, I think he's probably got to play in those two safety half field sets where
he still has the freedom and ability to sort of roam over the middle a little bit playing
that robber cover one buzz roll, whatever you want to call it. That's where I feel like he's at his best.
I don't love the range when he's as a true center fielder, single high type of a guy in cover one or cover three.
When it comes to run defense, I think he's in the right spots, but I think he's a little bit light at that 205 weight where sometimes he'll get pushed around or sealed off too easily with offensive linemen climbing to the second level or tight ends climbing to the second level.
And so I think that he needs to get a little bit stronger.
He'd probably put on some weight when he gets to the NFL in that regard.
Sort of just depends on what NFL teams want him to do.
and then I think that you know something else about him is when you play in coverage as a safety
sometimes you get asked to play in the slot really didn't love his man coverage reps when
it came from the slot he looked uncomfortable when he was playing in those man coverage spots
he looked like he just didn't trust his athleticism and he really just wants to he wants to
look at the ball he wants to be able to time when the quarterback's going to release it or where
they're going to look, and he wants to make an impact in space, less so in man coverage.
So to me, I think this is a true free safety type of a player, but I don't know if he has
that athleticism for true single high stuff.
So that probably limits a little bit of where he's going to get drafted, but for a guy
who's got these kind of ball skills and plays like this in space, you do find some value in
that from Bishop Fitzgerald.
An absolute legend of the show.
The USC defense, which had a lot of questions coming into last weekend, like, tightened up as
much as they needed to. They have a
early
like reclassified defensive lineman
who is
God I got to find his name
I think it's Jakeem Stewart
I think
either way they have they have somebody on the
defensive line that's like
17 years old
that can play that's like
17. Yeah let me see
or maybe 18 now
I got to see who it is.
The Ryan Williams of safeties?
I think it's Joachim Stewart, I want to say.
That gets some run for them.
I know they have a freshman defensive lineman that did reclassify
and is like playing already.
So, yeah, because that's been their problem, dude,
is just having enough talent on,
having enough talent on defense.
So they have guys, though, this year.
When Bishop Fitzgerald steps onto the field,
people say, hmm, indeed.
All right, next up.
Yep, who we got?
Judarian Price.
He was in a super chat before the running back from Notre Dame.
Oh, yeah, yep, here we go.
I mean, Judarian Price, this, Notre Dame backfields between Jeremiah Love and
Judarian Price is utterly ridiculous.
Best duo in the country.
By far, one of the best duo is we've had in years.
Yeah, years.
That's how good they are.
As you see some of the metrics up there, averaging over three and a half yards after contact
per attempt.
I know the metrics.
Hell, I'm looking at the metrics right now.
I'm looking at them right now.
Never gets old.
So what's funny to me with Price is he's listed 511,
210 and Jeremiah Love is listed 6 foot 215.
Price looks bigger to me.
I don't know if it's his,
and I don't even think it's his pads because I've seen some pictures
of him in workouts and practice and he's got like the Thomas
Jones arms.
It's, I mean, he is jacked beyond belief.
He runs.
ran through Arkansas, it looked like a Pop Warner game at times, some of the plays he had
running through them. He is so good in Outside Zone with his vision, burst, and feel. And then
you watch him with the new kick return format in the NFL, he's going to be a really big factor
on that. Because the new kick return format, you want the breakaway speed and the initial
acceleration. But I think more than ever, you want a body that can run through arm tackles to get
through that initial wave where like back in the day, you know, when when we were growing up
with kick returners, you looked at like, you know, whether it was Hester or, um, the chiefs, uh,
Dante Hall. Yeah. The like kick returners could be like slender and more elusive. Now it feels like
a lot of these guys like you love the guys that can just run through these arm tackles. I think
price is going to be a machine as an NFL kick returner, but he's going to be a really damn good
running back to, uh, eventually because he, he's very competent outside.
zone he runs through contact all the time he's not jeremiah love but damn dude he's freaking
close like any other school he's a superstar number one running back he's he's the kind of guy who
i watched him a couple of weeks ago if you give him a runway man he is so tough to stop he in my
opinion is a true momentum runner where where you give him when you give him a rushing lane and he
starts to get momentum you mentioned he will bounce off tackles he will run through arm tackles
he has a ton a lot of his missed tackles are just straight running through these guys and so that's definitely his style he doesn't have as much wiggle and change of direction as i typically like the running backs that i rank highly to have but there is value in what he could bring is somebody who is just a i mean again if you give him a straight line he is very very impressive and he makes up for um i want to call it sort of like a smash and dash
combination, but it's really just both these guys are really good.
Jeremiah Smith or Jeremiah Love does a ton and obviously Judarian Price is doing fantastic
as well. I love the kick return shout out. I love the kick return shout out. I think it's
going to be. Yeah, he had a hundred yarder against Purdue this year and it was like,
and he runs through the first wave like smashes through and then he's gone.
Matthew 99, 99, super chat says Connor's looking like more like a soprano's character
every day.
It's true.
You kind of do it.
You got the look.
I'm fine with it.
You got the look.
I'm okay with it.
I'm not pushing it off.
Again, never seen the show.
You're such a man of culture, but you have some of the most bizarre omissions.
No Jake Gyllenhaal, no Sopranos, no godfather.
No godfather.
Yep.
And I remember you were very late to Game of Thrones.
Yes.
I didn't start watching Game of Thrones until all eight.
seasons were out which i i kind of it was the best way to watch it i i like am a little envious
it was the best way to watch it yeah yeah it's i got lucky with that i did that for like breaking bad
better call saul the wire where they'd been out and i just you know buzzed right through it but
yeah yeah yeah that's impressive you ready for this one i and hey i said devon hester
the chat's calling me was that that the first name i said
for for what kick returning
I was talking about I think you were looking something up
I was talking about the kick returners
when we were growing up as football fans
the differences in the body types
between the kick returners that
like we're going to see going forward
more often than not in today's NFL
yes yes I agree with you
I totally agree with you
let's see
let's see
uh
$5 super chat
be paying 30
two saying we need draft grades for Miami Hurricanes players like Markell Bell who should
be a top one her to pick I have not watched him yet also safety Jacoby Thomas getting there
haven't watched their defense is totally nuts we'll get we'll get great for everybody
Spencer I like a shout out we appreciate you Spencer mark my words Caleb Goody will be a
first round pick at 2027 if you're a fellow degenerate like myself keeping on
and Michael Helden Langston Jones and Ross Ola Galu Maloo Masouli
I think I nailed that close enough all right noted noted spent just out here flexing is
flexing the knowledge for 2026 go off Spencer we'll see you for summer scouting with those names
he's even got the uh like the profile picture like yeah I'm looking off into the sunset
yeah you got it you got it I mean the future's so bright he had no idea somebody was taking
his picture there you think or was it staged I mean most of them are but it doesn't
doesn't it looks good though look i've i've peak ig era you had to do it you had you had to do it
you had to look off you're like oh yeah i'm cool don't no no no people are just taking my picture
i'm not even looking at the camera you had to do it dude what words you had to do it one of the
one of the best memes of all time is the tweet that says dudes take one picture in a suit
and start posting quotes about success just go to the wedding bro
it's so true no truer words i think it's one of the best memes of all time i
that went right through your soul am so guilty of that man you throw what you think what you
think i've got a job where i'm wearing a suit no i don't the only times they ever wear a suit or
guess what weddings that's it man but you got to flex
on the gram you know yeah you got to do it if it's 2016 you simply have to do it man that cut
through me like butter that i know i saw it i literally saw yourself fly it flutter away that's the
facebook meme i'm in this photo and i don't like it for it to get removed reflex so it says uh sad chets
fan slash bad land listener here um appreciate all the content you guys do always well done have you guys
seen anything from i'm guessing this is missouri state quarterback jacob clark haven't watched no but
we got i have a lot of names to write in the dock from the super chats today so shout out to
uh reflexios and everybody that sent a super chat with the name uh harris saying thoughts on jermaine
matthews and uh egg benosin the corners from ohio state so i think matthews having a really
good year i think matthews is an athlete enough to play at the nfl level i still think even this year
he's a little bit more reactionary than anticipatory than I would want for a cornerback,
but he's getting better this year,
is better than it was last year.
So I like the direction he's going.
Egben Osen is a really physical corner who I think he's an athlete enough to play at the NFL level.
A lot of penalties, really grabby.
I normally don't love corners who their style of play is being really grabby.
Because some weeks you're going to have refs that are.
going to be like, nope, here's a flag.
Other times you're going to have times where they're like,
the Minnesota game, whatever.
And he got away with one or two blatant ones in the Minnesota game where I was like, man,
even the broadcast called it out.
Yeah.
And so that's, that's where Igbenosin worries me is just that play style that he has there.
Yeah, he's like a recurring character of this show.
We get asked about Igbenosin a lot.
Ohio State, they got a lot of things, obviously.
And it's a pretty good defense.
A starter for them.
and so it makes total sense.
Your boy David Bailey.
We got to talk about your boy, David Bailey.
I mean, the artist, he's Picasso.
Nice.
Of pass rushing.
He is the Picasso of pass rushing.
There's no question about it.
Well, he wins half the time.
Dude, the last two weeks against Houston and Kansas,
insane tape, 95.2 pass rush grade,
five sacks, 27 total pressures in two games.
Two games, folks.
44.4 passers-win percentage,
a 42.9 pressure percentage.
And to let you guys know,
I gave you a little context here.
The best pressure percentage in the NFL right now
is Nick Benito at 21.5%.
David Bailey over the last two weeks
has a 42.9% pressure percentage.
The man is simply put,
unblockable he's kind of that outside linebacker type right where only where
not really going to play him a lot of his hand in the dirt not really going to set the edge
for you but my goodness can this dude get after the passer he's got the juice he's got the
bend he's got the fast strong hands he's got a really nice inside move which him and his
teammate romello height are using consistently this year
david bailey you were higher on him than i was going into the season
you were right my friend i will absolutely give this one to you have no problem doing it
this dude's going to be a first round pick it feels like man he's yeah he was 18th on my most
recent big board and every time i watch him i'm like i don't really care with some of his
limitations i just know the guy is going to rack up pressures sacks and quarterback hits at the
next level yeah i love this player he was my r mason thomas he was yes
And both of those guys have shown all year,
they just, you can't block them on an island.
You can't.
It's impossible.
Do they have any tests for that?
I mean, Spencer Fanon and Caleb Lomu.
I was going to say, he played really well against both the Utah guys.
They couldn't do it.
So that was the big, like, okay.
I saw somebody in the chat asked if we've talked about,
if we've talked about McCorkel said, have you guys looked at Caleb Lomu.
Yes, he was in our summer scouting offensive tackle show.
and discussed on our big board show.
So, and we'll keep talking about Caleb Lomo.
GR with $5 super chat said, what's up, fellas?
Here for the important questions only.
What's your class in Battlefield 6?
I haven't played the game enough to give you a good feeling on it.
But I've been playing mainly assault because I want to just like get all the guns unlocked and everything.
But you're a sniper god, right?
I am a sniper.
I kind of want to change to a medic main.
I've watched some videos.
It looks really fun.
I kind of just want to sprint around the map
with the defibrillator out and just be like,
boom, you're up, boom, boom, boom.
The problem with doing that is a lot of people just like give up,
they hit the give up button immediately.
So they don't even lay there, like, get ready to be revived.
So, I don't know.
I'm thinking about it.
I'm mowing it over.
Joel, five-dollar super chat said,
my doctor offers colonoscopy recordings.
If I send you the film, can you grade it?
No, we don't grade off a broadcast copy.
It's got to be all 20.
Yeah, and it's not the all 22.
The overhead of the actual operation room.
Yeah, that just won't work for us.
We got to get the all 22 of it.
Okay, who's your last guy that you want to talk about here?
Last player here is, you ready for this callback, Trevor?
This was one of your OG guys.
Who is it?
Bear Alexander.
Yeah, baby.
He's back.
He's back.
he's so back the bear now at Oregon previously at USC and Georgia his game against
Penn State was a dream game for a defensive lineman against high level competition I mean
this dude his the violence he generates in his hands coming off the ball looks like
it's just going to literally go right through the offensive lineman he's
is so powerful against the run, as you see that run defense grade there against
Penn State. He's had a couple of really good games this year against the run.
A single digit big dudes. That's right, Ross. He's to see Bear Alexander right there.
Trevor, he's a force. It's been, we've had combos about him. It's weird how he was a big deal
when he got to USC. And he's kind of floated around college football for a couple of years now.
And you've been waiting for him to kind of find it. But the Oregon staff is,
clearly gotten through to him. I'm not saying he's going to be a first round pick because
there's just a lot of lack of clarity there of why this guy has never tapped into his full
potential. But we are starting to see what looks like a legit NFL caliber defensive tackle right
now. And he's starting to tap into all that raw power he has with the size. Listen, man, I think
I talked about him either this summer or last summer. And basically the way that I put it is,
I don't really know what to do with this player because when I watch him, the tape is top 50.
Like his best stuff is top 50
And I don't know what to do with Bear Alexander
Because he was at Georgia
And then left Georgia
And it was kind of weird
Why he left Georgia
And then he plays at USC
And then he leaves USC
Because he pulls himself out after three games
Because he wasn't getting the rotation
That he wanted
So he opts out
Now he goes to Oregon
It's like dude
I don't even know what to do with that
With the off the field part
Of the whole scouting process
And scouting profile
I don't even know what to do with that
And I want to be very clear
I don't know if the dude's a bad dude
I don't know
No we just we just don't know
He's just kind of playing
the college football game the way that it is right now when he's on the field this he's been he's he's
showed us moments where he is a top 50 NFL draft caliber player and I just I don't really know
what to do with him I really don't but he is very talented so I'm glad that you brought him up
because he is having a good year one more for you before our new names indeed indeed uh let's see
who do we got here oh yes the offensive tackle that a lot of people have wanted
us to talk about is Ohio State offensive tackle, Austin Sereville. He is their starting left tackle this
year. He played right and left guard for them initially. He was a three star interior
offensive line recruit. So he used to be a guard and now he is playing offensive tackle.
You see some of the grades right there, 78.2 overall grade, 76.4 pass blocking grade,
74.2 run blocking grade. Zero penalties this season. Zero sacks allowed. Only four
pressures on 169 pass blocking snaps.
Connor, this dude's got the size for the NFL level.
I don't think he has the length for tackle.
It will be an uphill battle for him to stay at tackle at the NFL level,
although I do think that he has the high football IQ.
I think that he approaches the game at a very high level.
I love the way that he moves out of his stance.
And first and foremost, he has got a very athletic, flexible stance in his pre-snap stance.
It allows him to explode off of either foot.
him to get into his pass sets very comfortably, very balanced. He knows how to take on contact
very well. I think that he is pretty balanced on his feet for all sorts of power moves. He
knows how to mirror and slide and stay in front of a lot of the speed rushers that he has
faced. And something that I love about him is he's not the strongest dude in the world when
it comes to leg drive. But there are so many plays where he will get his hands up and in on
defenders and he will start churning his legs and even though he's moving okay just a little just a little
just a little now more now more now more and that moment he is more of a momentum run blocker he has some
plays and more plays than i thought he would where he will bury defenders with great grip strength
great ability to maintain his blocks and does a fantastic job in that regard so he is somebody
I'm very intrigued with because this offensive tackle class as a whole has been very disappointing
for me. But Seravel has potential, in my opinion, to be a top 50 and maybe even a first
round caliber type of offensive tackle just because of how well he has played and how steady
he is. I just, I just think that he is, I think that he's excellent. And I just think that that consistent
has been fantastic for him this entire season. Yeah. And think about how like he, he wasn't expected
to be their starter at left tackle either coming into the season. And the level he's played at,
they had to transfer somebody I liked over summer or was excited to see how he would do in this Ohio
state program and Ethan Oneianwa. And, you know, Serafeld has taken over at
left tackle. And Oniano has gotten some burn at guard, but hasn't really been playing a ton.
So I think that kind of speaks to, you know, the kind of year this guy's had and the growth he's
had from once just being thought as a guard now playing left tackle.
Well, Connor, I got bad news.
Are you gone?
It's just me here.
I might be go.
Wait, wait, wait.
Okay.
Hold on.
Wait, wait, wait, wait.
You give your new name prospect.
and I'm going to try to fix my camera on the fly here. Hold on.
Well, let me get to the chat here real quick for this from Brandon.
The guy on the right has now become the guy in thin air.
Trev GPT crashed.
That's from Fredo.
Paper waves.
I see you in the chat with the Kyle Lewis love.
And the linebacker from Pitt, I want to shout you out.
You've been like banging the table for Kyle Lewis throughout this entire show from New Jersey,
Kyle Lewis.
we will probably talk about him, assumingly we would talk about him during our linebacker rankings.
All right.
Let's get right into it.
These chats are hilarious.
My new name guy is Dayquan Wright from Ole Miss.
This is one of the most interesting players at tight end in the entire country because he's 6-4-255.
He's big.
He's a true in-line kind of tight end that they play on the line of scrimmage and off the line of scrimmage.
He only has 16 catches this year in this Ole Miss offense.
But he has 369 receiving yards and three touchdowns.
He at tight end is averaging over 22 yards per reception on those 16 catches.
Obviously, the lane train in Ole Miss do a really good job scheming.
But this guy can run through tacklers.
He's got great size to go up and win the football.
I think he's slowly developing as a blocker.
He's the most under the radar name at tight end that people need to know about.
Max Descano, who is a friend of the show and does a, does like a substack.
Remember the tight ends on the tight end position.
He was texting me about him.
And, you know, we're kind of just like, he was like, you know, people aren't talking about
this guy yet, but look at his size, look at his receiving skills.
And he plays for Ole Miss.
So it's kind of surprising.
I guess it's just the lack of targets, but making the most of them.
But Dayquan Wright is the new name of the show for me in this tight end class that I think is a
quickly ascending prospect.
And I guess we have officially lost Trevor.
So I'm going to try to buy some time.
I'm going to get through some super chats here.
Let's see.
This one from Ty Kendall, while watching some Sinty tape for Sorsby,
what were your thoughts in some of our linemen like Joe Cotton at left tackle
and Evan T at right guard?
We will get through more offensive linemen in this class.
That was Trevor that watched Sorsby.
so I kind of want to save this super chat for him if he returned.
So, Ty, hopefully we can revisit that one.
Matthew with the super chat, Connor, looking like a Sopranos character, more and more every day.
I'll take that as a compliment.
I kind of like that.
Austin Smith, don't forget, hyphenated.
255 is what he's listed on PFF for whatever it's worth.
And my name is too common.
I guess the hyphen looked better than no space.
I agree, keep the hyphen.
Connor alluded the Chargers.
That makes a ton of sense.
The Chargers getting what could be the best center prospect in the draft.
Garnett West, just wanted to say some love to my brothers.
Garnett, you the man, appreciate it, especially Trevor.
You're still my dog.
I wonder what Trevor did.
Jacobi Thomas, best safety in the nation.
Matt Curran, thank you, Matt.
I think we can get an NFL rookie stock watch as we near the halfway point of the season.
I really like that idea.
Maybe we'll shake it up, and it would be a good way to kind of review what all the rookies have done halfway through the NFL season.
We'd go through some of the offensive or defensive rookie of the year odds.
I really like that idea.
If we ever get Trevor back into the stratosphere,
I'll pitch this idea to him.
Peyton Johnson.
Have you guys checked out Bernard Gooden?
LSU defensive tackle transferred in from UCF, undersized, but extremely effective.
Think you guys will love him.
Another great name to add to the list.
Nolan Thomas.
Why is Akeem Messador not getting top 50 hype?
He's had a crazy, crazy year.
I would imagine because of just how long he's been at the college football level,
he will be a 25-year-old prospect on draft night.
So I think that would be why.
It's just taking that long for him to have this kind of season.
I want to say he's had at least like six,
legitimately six years of college football.
But the tape is the tape and no better time now and put it all together.
So I'm not top 50 with him yet,
but it's a really, really good shout out
because he's been one of the most productive defenders
in the entire nation this year.
Fredo, I need a grade for John Cena's retirement tour.
That would be a really good one when Trevor's back.
I haven't followed Sina's retirement tour.
I admittedly don't get to watch wrestling anymore,
but I just keep up with it online when something really important happens.
And Will Kayser, have you guys had any chance to watch Eli Hydenrake out of Navy?
He's been lighting the American Conference on fire.
I'm glad you brought that up.
I believe one of our upcoming NBC games that I'm doing pregame for is in a couple of weeks.
We have Navy at Notre Dame.
So what I do for weeks leading up to the game, like I've had Notre Dame a couple of times already this year so they don't count.
But Navy, I haven't seen a lot of Navy this year, but that week I'll do a deep dive on the team and kind of prep for them as we do the pregame of the game.
So I have a lot of thoughts on Eli Hyden, Rick, Reich after that.
So in three more, two and a half weeks, definitely.
That's kind of the fun of doing college football this year is you get some more array.
Like we watch me and Trevor are like 150 to 200 players over summer scouting.
And then we, you know, build it out during the season.
But doing Big Ten on Saturdays and Notre Dame on Saturdays has only helped the roll of deck.
All right, let's go back to the live chat.
I'll get us out of here in about two minutes because I don't think we're getting Trevor back.
I just want to make sure we get to some of these through here.
A lot of names being thrown around.
Opinions on Logan Jones from Iowa.
We did talk about Logan Jones a lot.
It says, I know you were in on him last year.
Oh, we're here.
Okay.
out of me and I don't have a camera image anymore.
So everybody that's watching on YouTube,
you get to watch this beautiful train wreck come to the,
come to the station here.
Where was I?
What did I miss?
You missed me.
I got through every super chat.
And I had Dayquan right, the tight end from Ole Miss is my new name.
He's a beast.
So all we have left is your new name.
Oh, okay.
And I did save one super chat from you from Todd.
he wanted to know why you were watching the Sincy tape for Sorsby if you thought of anything
about their offensive linemen yet.
Ooh, I have not watched their offensive linemen.
So I, if I'm focused on one guy, normally I just really try to focus on the one guy.
So I don't have any thoughts on the offensive lineman yet.
But again, I can add them to the list.
So, all right, we'll wrap this up here pretty quickly.
Genesis Smith is the safety that I wanted to get to from Arizona, who I wanted to talk about
here. He is a true junior, six foot two, 205 pounds, 80.5 overall defensive grade, 90, 69.6
run defense grade, 83.1 coverage grade, 231 snaps of free safety, 93 snaps in the box, 44
snaps in the slot. He's got one interception this year, but he also has three dropped
interceptions, which means he's kind of been there. He just needs to hang on to the football.
He's also got five-forceding completions as well. Connor, I think he's a little bit more athletic,
than Bishop Fitzgerald.
It obviously doesn't have as, as colonel or general of the name.
It's still good, though.
Genesis Smith?
We said Ephesians priesoc earlier this week.
Now we've got Genesis Smith.
This is a biblical show.
If you play defensive back, the names are amazing.
Amazing.
It has me rethinking when the day comes that I have a child.
Like, do I name them with the hope that they play DB?
Yeah, yeah.
I mean, you have to.
You have to.
Because you don't want to, you don't want to,
want to rule anything out you know. Ephesians Rogers. Oh, man. That's actually a good one.
That got me. Okay, Genesis Smith. He, I think he's a little bit more athletic than say, you know,
well, both him and Bishop and Sherald, really good back-in players. These are guys who come
downhill pretty quickly to make plays on the ball. They're good at anticipation, although I think
that Genesis Smith is even a hair quicker than what I saw from Bishop Fitzgerald.
and he's a little bit taller, he's a little bit leaner,
but I think he does come in with a bit more force
when it comes to making tackles
and coming from depth and downhill
and just like facing quarterbacks or wide receivers
or whoever it is.
I'd like to see him put on a little bit more weight.
Again, for both of those guys,
I'd like for them to be around 215 pounds.
But I think that it works for them.
It works at the college level.
Genesis Smith is very similar, in my opinion,
to the way that I watched and viewed Teo Johnson from Utah,
who I was a big fan of in Summer Scouting,
who there's just been some inconsistencies with him in the run game
that I get a little bit worried about at the NFL level,
but Smith seems to have a little bit more of a nose for the football,
and he's a little bit more willing of a tackler,
even if he sort of shares the same issues that Teo Johnson does
where he's just a little bit lean,
and sometimes that shows up when he's taken on ball carriers.
But what he could do as a coverage defender,
I think he's been pretty excellent.
You see that in his coverage grades,
and I think he has played really well this season.
Dude, I, number one, I need to, I actually,
this is making me realize I need to catch up on the safety class
because a lot of the safeties I've watched besides a handful
that have been in this show for us are from summer still.
Yeah.
And I mean, like you had like the deep dive on the safety.
these today. Genesis Smith, 6205. I had to get caught up. I had to get caught up with that kind of
coverage grades and the diversity of the snap count. The fact that he's played all over for
their defense. And then I mean, what do I need to say about the general Bishop Fitzgerald?
Do you see the chat right now? No, I'm on the super chats. For names for your future kid.
I would. We've got Revelation Rogers. Revelation. We've got.
leviticus conner is short for corinthians corinthians rogers i think that's the winner
i think that's the winner leviticus levi rogers this is unbelievable how do you pronounce the super chat
what's the super chat where are fredo uh hold on hold on oh ecclesiastes yeah there it is
ecclesiasties rogers cb one actually any any any corner that is ecclesiastes anything yeah i'm
pretty sure that's going to be that's going to be cb one for me i don't even need to watch the tape i imagine
i mean jericho rogers it's just unreal this is too good um yeah i love it thank you everybody
i will now pitch these to my wife
powerpoint presentation we'll see yeah i need to sit down this is important for our house
go goliath rogers nose tackle there we go i like all of these this is great really good
Jamie's saying Emmanuel McNeil Warren
at a Toledo insanely good
you guys should give him a watch
I watched him over summer
I thought he was a little too
boom robust for me as a as a safety player
like yes he was able to make some big plays
but I felt like he also had some lack of anticipation
and gave up some big plays as well
he is more consistent this year
and so I do think that he is on the up for sure
I was a little bit more skeptical of him
just because he was very high and low as a player
but he is playing better this year
um jeff saint damascus rogers damascus this is incredible you guys are killing it sauce night
topic for sure absolutely bork yeah oh that's there you go there you that mac goes conner
doesn't know the bible rogers that's really good to be fair so i i did go to to be fair yes
to be fair you're right uh i didn't go to catholic school
I went to public school growing up, but I did go to, like, Sunday school and, you know, baptized, made my communion, confirmation, all the sacraments and everything.
But I am, I am not a man that can recite the Bible.
No, I will admit that.
But I still like these names.
It's not going to stop me.
But the names hit.
It's not going to stop me.
McIntyre Rogers.
I think that's the winner.
We've gone too far.
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Fiction franchise is coming up on Monday.
Will McLean in the chat.
Today of all days.
dude i i'm i dude i'm about to i'm about to go order 30 wings yeah you deserve it today that's that's
my that's what that's my dinner's about to be either that or a 72 ounce steak i'd say you do both why not
both who's stopping us uh we're doing we're doing fix your franchise on monday folks
potato cam sycammon that's matt in the chat that's that's mad in the chat that's
the good stuff is it is that good stuff he can sense are just wings it never fails to
amaze me how people just get this show yeah dude it's unbelievable it's the dumbest stuff
ever but collectively as a unit we all are in it together yes i've morphed fully into
i i i'm actually what's happened here it's scary how accurate it is i'm zola from
Winter Soldier. Oh, no. Yeah, Fixer Franchise is on Monday. It's going to be a doozy, folks. We're
talking about the Tennessee Titans, and is this the third year in a row that we have talked
about the Tennessee Titans for Fixer Franchise? I think so. Think it is. I think it is,
and we got some things to talk about. If you guys are new around here, Fixer Franchise,
what we do is we take a deep dive into these struggling NFL teams. Normally, we wait for them to
fire their head coach for Andrew said Fix Your Webcam. Andrew, I'm going to find you.
and I'm going to shake your hand
it's a good joke
it's a good joke
we're going to take a look at
some potential coaching candidates
I don't think there's going to be
any front office changes
because Mike Borganzi's there
as a general manager
they hired him last summer so
he's good
but we're going to take a look
at the head coaching candidates
we're going to take a look at their roster
guys that are going to be there next year
guys that we might trade
and we might cut
we might sign
and then of course we're going to do a mock draft
at the end Connor had the great idea
which I absolutely loved
of normally it's just us
doing the mock
a three-round team-specific Titans mock draft,
but we're going to get you guys involved
since we are now doing these shows live.
So we're going to do our own mock draft,
and then afterwards we're going to have the People's Tennessee Titans
three-round mock draft.
Connor, you got anything else before we get out of here?
No, fun show.
The chat really just brings an element to this show that is,
I've been smiling and laughing for two hours.
So thank you to everybody for the super chats.
Thank you to everybody just in the chat section.
You guys are awesome.
And I can't wait to be back on with everybody Monday.
we will see you guys well maybe you maybe you guys will see me i don't know you'll have to you'll have
to tune in to find out on monday for fix your franchise for tyler cook behind the glass for
connor rogers i'm trevor sick and miss saying thank you guys so much for watching another
episode of the nfl stock exchange podcast see you guys on monday
