NFL Stock Exchange: An NFL Draft Podcast - Stock Watch: Nuss QB1? Sellers, Mateer, Klubnik Breakdown, DL Class Gets Better

Episode Date: September 4, 2025

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Starting point is 00:00:00 Welcome to the opening bell of the NFL Stock Exchange podcast. Trevor Sik and McConnell Rogers here for the first stock watch episode of the 2025 college football season and 26 NFL draft cycle. Connor, how are you doing today, my friend? I'm good, man. It was fun to have some college tape to watch for the same. of the draft and look at some players that kind of jumped off in the true week one it's in you know and we're going to do something a little different this year where we're always going to bring back that players where their stock is trending up or down we are going to try to bring a new name that is something we've done on stock watch episodes in the past which is fun because it was a way
Starting point is 00:00:48 to kind of keep growing our draft database hey we didn't watch this guy over the summer it's the first time he jumped out to me but trevor with how wide open and the volume of this quarterback class. Yes. We are going to try to talk about the quarterback class in its entirety almost week after week. And it's, you know, it's just, it's the best way to keep up with who's moving ahead. And the mock drafts will help with that. But this is kind of a more wide open discussion.
Starting point is 00:01:15 And of course, we want to hear from you guys as well. Something new that we're going to start on Stockwatch. I tweeted it out from the NFLSC account is, hey, shout out some guys that you notice. Because I don't know about you, but it felt good to watch college football, have the laptop out, be like, oh, all right, this guy's having a good game. Let me write him down. Make sure on Monday and Tuesday, I get to the film of this person to see if they are the right kind of draft prospect to bring to the show or maybe, okay, all right, I'm going to wait around. I'm going to see a little bit more. But you mentioned the structure of what we're going
Starting point is 00:01:43 to have moving for. We're going to talk about the quarterback carousel because it is so wide open this year. We're each going to bring three prospects to the stock watch portion of it. So either a stock up or a stock down and then that new player that we are going to bring to it. I'm not going to bury the lead, okay? And I'm going to let the good people know. Oh yeah. The hats are back. Looking lovely. The hats are back, baby. Let me see if I can, uh, dude. So, so these are new hats. We're working with new manufacturers on this one. And because of that, we're able to sell these hats for $35 this time around, which we're excited about. They're a little bit different than the ones that people got last time. But I'm really excited about these. These are the same style of hat,
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Starting point is 00:03:20 Or if you want a second color, there it is for you. We'll take the money. Well, yeah, that's fine. We'll do it. Dude, you and me figuring out how to break even on these hats. Don't bring it up. I'm telling you, it would have been its own episode. Trevor and I should not be running a business.
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Starting point is 00:03:57 Dot my Shopify.com. And once again, guys, I appreciate you having patience with us the first time around with the hats and everything. And there's still a couple of you that I'm going back and forth on with the previous hats. But the way that I'm going to do this, because I have to ship all these hats myself.
Starting point is 00:04:15 I am the most free day that I have in the week is Friday. And so I am going to be sending the hats out on Fridays. So that means that if you order a hat on Friday afternoon, Friday evening, Saturday, I'm not going to be able to ship it until Friday. I promise I will get to all of them. And we respond to the customer emails with NFLSC show at gmail.com if you need to get a hold of us for whatever reason. But that's the timeline there. So just letting you guys know, that's sort of how it's going.
Starting point is 00:04:46 If you don't have your hat for like a week and a half and then you remember like, oh, shoot, I ordered it on a Friday night. that's why I'm not holding out on you I promise I want everybody to get their hats in good time but yes the hats are up there if you still want one if you still need one that's where you can get it all right to dig into it quarterback carousel we got a lot of guys that we got to talk about here and really do there's a lot of quarterbacks that we talked about during summer scouting if you guys missed the quarterback summer scouting episode you can go back and listen to that we're going to reference sort of that as we talk some of that as we as we talk about
Starting point is 00:05:17 these quarterbacks here but Connor I let you kick it off we've got shoot you had like three quarterbacks that I wasn't even going to talk about. So I have three or four as well. So I know we're going to touch on a lot of these guys after week one of college football, which of course, you know, is the be all end all. The guys are not going to get any better or worse. What we saw this past Saturday is exactly who they're going to be in the NFL, no matter how long their career is.
Starting point is 00:05:38 So let's make some final declarations on these players. That's right. What quarterback do you want to bring up to the table first to get us started? I mean, I do want to start with Mateer because of how excited I've been about him. And, you know, I understand the level of competition. for a lot of these guys and these openers is always not always sorry archmanning but is usually a little bit of a warm up and Oklahoma uh really put it on Illinois state and you know mature though what what you look for in these games is not necessarily the stats or how much
Starting point is 00:06:11 they bloom out by but the big time throws some of the traits that really pop and with Beteer and he's going to have an opportunity to do it on a much higher scale against Michigan. That's going to be a big test. But you got to see some of the arm talent that really popped out over the summer. And now, you know, when he was at Washington State and now transferring at Oklahoma, it's going to be a bigger stage for him, playing in the SEC. Obviously, there's big expectations for Oklahoma. Trevor, I just liked how he challenged the defense down the field. There's multiple examples of him. Even when his guy didn't have a step, but the coverage had their back turn to him. Hey, I have the armed talent to drive
Starting point is 00:06:50 this ball outside the numbers. I'm going to throw it there and let my guy make a play. So Mateer is just a lot of fun to watch and he has an opportunity in front of him this year to find himself in the first round, right? I don't know if I'm there yet right now. And to be fair, I'm kind of trying to take it really slow with a lot of these guys before cementing them there because there's a lot of reason to be excited about Lenora Sellers and Drew Aller and a lot of these different players, but it's going to be a little bit of a slower build. We'll talk about some other, at least one quarterback that I do think is firmly in the first round. But I think what you look for with Mateer since he transferred is the traits on display,
Starting point is 00:07:32 and it's a great star for him week one against a lower level of competition. If he beats Michigan this weekend, I think the hype train is going to leave the station. Yeah, this is where the season really starts. this upcoming week with him taking on Michigan. 81.7 passing grade this past week for Mateer he was 30 of 38 had almost 400 yards passing um had those three touchdowns one interception how many boy was a big time throws for him three big three big time throws two turnoff worthy plays for him average time to throw 2.5 4 so this guy was getting the ball out of his hands quick and I like his release a lot that I mean it's it is it is a lightning quick release and when you pair that
Starting point is 00:08:08 with being able to recognize things pre-snap boy you can have have a pretty fast offense, especially with, got a touchdown with my guy, Dionne Burks. So anytime you got that kind of speed and getting the ball in his hands pretty quickly, I think good things are going to happen for this Oklahoma offense. So very excited to see them against Michigan because I do agree. He was fun to watch this weekend, but it really is a matter of him just going up against legit NFL competition. And we'll see that with some of the players on Michigan's defense and then certainly through
Starting point is 00:08:36 the SEC schedule as well. I'll stay in the SEC. see. Taylor Green, or Tailing Green, excuse me, from Arkansas. I get it. They're playing Arkansas Pine Bluff. Video game numbers, man. Crazy stuff from him.
Starting point is 00:08:52 94.1 overall grade from Tailing Green. 93.6 passing grade. He had six passing touchdowns, two big time throws, zero turnover-worthy plays on the day. He had a 73.5 rushing grade as well. When you watch the tape, you know, I'll get to some of what I still need to see from him a second, but he is dripping with NFL level talent. He is an NFL level athlete at the quarterback position. He is one of those guys that as long as his accuracy and consistency is just
Starting point is 00:09:22 at a certain base level, he's going to get drafted. Now, again, it's a matter of sort of how high at this point, but how he moves, how he runs, how explosive he is, the dual threat ability that he has, and then if you were putting together passing performances like the ones that we saw this past weekend or anything even close to it against more legit NFL competition. The NFL is going to get really in on this guy because of the tools that he has. Now, the reason why I was lower on Tailing Green coming into the season and some concerns that I still had for him watching the Arkansas Pine Bluff tape is the fundamentals aren't always there for him. And what I don't like about Tailing Green right now
Starting point is 00:10:03 is that it feels like every throw is a little different. You know, on some throws, he might not be finishing it. You know, he might be kind of like flicking it like Queen of yours kind of does where the hand just stays up and it goes across the body, but it kind of stays up. He doesn't come through the body. It's not like a full throwing motion. It's just sort of this like quick stop. Sometimes he does come through all the way through the body, but you could almost see like
Starting point is 00:10:26 his leg kick out, like he's a pitcher or, you know, his lower body just is not in sync with his upper body as he is throwing the football. And because of that, you see maybe not. overall accuracy issues but ball placement issues true ball placement guys is different than overall accuracy so certainly adjusting completion percentage is better than just completion percentage but true ball placement you really have to watch these guys and you've got to see these throws and you've got to see these NFL opportunities where guys might be a little bit covered and it's those consistent fundamentals it's that consistent muscle memory that gets you to have
Starting point is 00:11:06 the ball placement that you need to attack tight windows at the NFL level. So Talen Green, you saw exactly why people in the NFL realm are going to talk about this guy from a rushing and a passing perspective. But I also still saw the things that worried me in last year's tape that are still
Starting point is 00:11:22 there for him this year. And with them still existing, I wonder how much better it's going to get this upcoming season. We might just have to watch him from a talent perspective and then just think, hey, let's fix up the throwing motion in the first couple years of his rookie contract when he's in the NFL.
Starting point is 00:11:37 So a lot of people are going to talk about Tailing Green because he's a very, very exciting player, but that is sort of the good and the bad of how I saw his day and how I see him as a prospect. I was glad you texted me about him because this is somebody that I haven't had a ton of eyes yet, but he's played a lot of football, man. I mean, he was a multi-year starter at Boise State. This is now his second year starting for Arkansas. He's a fifth-year player.
Starting point is 00:12:01 So this is a real opportunity for him, like we've seen, a lot of fifth year senior quarterbacks in the past take advantage of that and put themselves on the map as a legitimate prospect. So, and I saw, you know, getting a look at him in this opener is getting a look at him this weekend. I got to see a lot of what you, what you saw is just consistency. Like it's at his size, physically, there's moments where you're really, really impressed. But like you said, mechanically, can you, uh, have repeatable plays kind of is what you're looking for. Yes. And that's something that if he can find that the second half of this year or down the stretch and take that into the all-star game process, I think teams will really, really
Starting point is 00:12:43 kind of be more bullish on him going into the draft. So a guy now that I don't have a strong feeling on, but I have an eye on to see what he could do with this opportunity because he's played so much football. Who's next for you? So next for me, I want to talk about Lenora Sellers because somebody had to do it. Somebody has to do it, right? It's, And it's interesting with Lenora Sellers, because... Future Jets quarterback, so, you know, it really feels that way, doesn't it? It's very fitting that you're talking about him. So, yeah, go off, King.
Starting point is 00:13:12 It really does feel like you'll, like Justin Fields, who's under contract the following year, will start with Sellers behind them. They run the same offense. But in all seriousness with Sellers, you got to see the exact highs and lows we talked about over summer scouting with Sellers. He had one big time throw. That was a bomb in the fourth quarter for a touchdown, where in terms of arm strength, pretty limitless, this guy.
Starting point is 00:13:38 I mean, it looked like the Nerf Howler. I always said that about Michael Pennix. That seller's throw, you could hear the football screaming as it was in the air and dropped right into the bucket. He has, you know, obviously scrambling ability. He looks like a freight train and just runs people over. But I didn't love the four sacks that he took on 26 dropbacks in this game. and to be fair not all of them are created equal the first one the safety that's just what you don't want to see as you're expecting these prospects to grow right right he can't he can't do that you cannot you can't step up like that in that situation i get it football is a fast game it's a bang bang thing but like you got to know you you have to throw to the feet to the feet of whoever is is hot for you yeah so he he went through his first read which was on the left side
Starting point is 00:14:32 and then he worked off of it. And as soon as he worked off of it, he had a little out route from the slot that he could have threw. Like the guy would have been open on it. It was drawn up the right way. And if he wasn't comfortable throwing that, just airmail to the sideline in that situation
Starting point is 00:14:51 because you're in the pocket. Instead, and Sellers is so gifted that gifted guys fall into these habits. He legitimately tucked it to run. If you're going to scramble, that's okay. because you can keep your eyes up and then if you have the pressure coming, you could just throw it away. He tucked it like, I am running right now.
Starting point is 00:15:10 And he paid the price and not to nitpick one play because once again, he did a lot of great things in this game, that deep ball, the touchdown run. But then, you know, I thought to be fair, the last sack, he didn't stand a chance. The pressure was in his face right away. But you look at the other two, it's just kind of the case of holding on to the football. And the second one was a strip sack, which always scares you. The average time to throw for him in this. This game was 3.25 seconds.
Starting point is 00:15:34 That is a little high. You like the number to start with a two for everybody out there. You don't want it to start with a three. So this is Lenora Sellers. And you would like to see the dangerous plays like the safety and the other sack that he got stripped on. You'd like to see those kind of quiet down over the year while he can maintain the splash plays that he has where he is a runner that could score at any moment. And he's a deep ball thrower that can hit the deep one at any moment. So that's what I'm watching with the Norrisellers.
Starting point is 00:16:03 It just felt like more of the highs and the lows. And how do we get this guy to have less of the lows? Yeah. And you talked about nitpicking him right now. But unfortunately, fair or not, that's kind of what we have to do because we're not talking about a tail and green day three prospect. We're talking about somebody. We took number two overall in the mock draft episode that we just did on Monday.
Starting point is 00:16:27 So you kind of have to nitpick them, especially when you are comparing him versus Garrett Nussmeyer, Drew Aller, you know, like guys that we're going to think are potential number one overall picks or even just QB1 in a draft class. So I think that that all matters with Sellers. I did like what I saw from him. Obviously, I like the big time throw. The sacks, of course, he's got to clean that up.
Starting point is 00:16:48 But man, he showed another example of the strength that he has to shrug off defensive linemen and linebackers who are trying to sack him. I mean, those plays alone might get him drafted in the second round at very worst from a coach, you know? They will. Sellers can make no improvements this season, be the exact guy he was week one the entire year. And I think he'll go in the top 50. It's just a matter, like you said, Trevor, this conversation is, how does this guy cement himself as a top five pick? Yep, yep.
Starting point is 00:17:22 Excited to see him moving forward because it's nice, this is a duh, but like it's nice to start. the year off with a win, right? Yeah. Nobody knows exactly what their team is going to be until you kick the ball off for the season to start. So, you know, like Alabama. I'm sure Alabama was feeling high and mighty because they're Alabama.
Starting point is 00:17:42 They're very talented. Now all of a sudden Florida State punches them in the mouth. And it's like as that game slowly went on, you could see Florida State just getting more and more and more confident within themselves. And Alabama getting, it felt like, less and less confident outside of a couple of players that were making plays. So South Carolina and Lenora Sellers a little bit of the same way.
Starting point is 00:18:03 It's almost like a, you get to exhale a little bit because you got that first big win in a neutral site game on a Sunday afternoon out of the way. And now you can sort of move forward and try to play as confidently as possible. So I'm excited to see Sellers moving forward. I'm glad he got that dub to start the season. Look, I got to talk about my boy, Jaden Daniels. You're back. I never left.
Starting point is 00:18:28 I never left. He's dangerously entering Catalan range. 100% he is. But it's okay. 100% he is. These are my guys who are going for doctorate sons when it comes to draft prospects here, Jail and Tyler Shuck parlayed into being a top 50 pick. Yeah, I didn't. It can be done.
Starting point is 00:18:50 I don't know if we're getting a top 50 pick out of Jalen Daniels, but the quarterback from Kansas is so much fun, man. And look, yes, count them. One, two, three, four, five. This is his sixth season of college football. But I will say this. He had his true freshman season, which was not great. He had a 38.2 passing grade his true freshman season when he was at Kansas. The other five seasons, the most recent five, even through the injuries and even with him, you know, playing hurt and missing time,
Starting point is 00:19:18 he never finished with a season-long passing grade below 72. And this year, right now, through two games. Now, I understand it's Fresno State and it's Wagner. I get it. But he has an 85.7 passing grade through those two games, which is the highest of his career. He has seven passing touchdowns and one interception. He's got a 4.2 big-time throw percentage and a 2.0 turnover-worthy play percentage. Those numbers are really good to start the season.
Starting point is 00:19:41 And most importantly, this guy is playing confidently, and it looks like his back is healthy. That's the big issue with him is I remember watching Jalen Daniels last year play through a back injury. and I remember saying to you on this show if that's what we get with this guy having a hurt back I will let him sit for a year and let him get his back right and now I think that we're seeing
Starting point is 00:20:09 a very confident football player he's got that rushing ability to him as well he had a bomb of a touchdown where he threw it 65 yards in the air somebody in the comments who I don't know who this was it was talking like it was a friend of his was basically like I know you got 70 in you
Starting point is 00:20:23 because it was 65 yards from Jalen Daniels. He didn't step into it. That was a, I'm standing here. That was a big step into the throw. But it's not like, you know, you watch some of these guys get a running head start to get the ball 65, 70 yards down the field. That wasn't Jalen Daniel.
Starting point is 00:20:41 That's not what he needed. So I think he's got great arm talent. Is he short? Yeah, he's six feet tall. You've got to think about that with him being an NFL quarterback. He's 220 pounds, though, so he's got some muscle, he's got some size on him. He's got an NFL arm.
Starting point is 00:20:52 He has a playmaker's mentality. I just, I am not giving up on Jalen Daniels. I don't care how old he is. You mentioned Tyler Shuck parlayed it into a top 50 pick. I don't know if Jalen Daniels will, but man, the way that he's been throwing the ball early, I'm here to say I'm not ready to give up on him. I still love this dude. He has been one of my favorite quarterbacks to watching college football for the last
Starting point is 00:21:13 three or four years. And with this, his final eligible season in college football, it looks like he might be putting his best foot forward, which is exciting to watch. And even so, he's 22 right now. now so you don't sit there and look at him as no way yes he's only 22 yes he doesn't turn 23 until the end of october unless unless the internet's lying and the internet's never lied before the internet's got to be lying because that means he'd be he would have been 17 in 2020 brail and allen was a 17 year old in college i get Bryce underwood turned 18 basically right before
Starting point is 00:21:50 he played his first college game from michigan the other day does happen which by the way oh we're two years away from that kid we're well we're gonna talk about him during stock up not him i'm somebody on his team but i did it i'm it's not it's probably out by the time people are listening to this i did a tape breakday and i don't usually do my mbc tape breakdowns on non-eligible guys i had to with him because it was just like young man's got a cannon yeah the young fella uh might be able to play a little football yeah so yes yeah so if that's accurate. Jalen Daniels is a younger 60 year senior. Yeah. That's a good sign. Great. Great. Look, any kind of propaganda you got, I'm trying to help your narrative.
Starting point is 00:22:34 Any kind of propaganda you got? Yes. I'll take it. You're right. The internet's never been wrong. He was just a, he's a genius and he got to college at 15 years old. That's what you know how like in the EPL you'll like watch a guy and he'll sub in and they'll be like, oh, this forward's 16 and he's already in the EPL. No, that was Jalen Daniels. That was Jalen Daniels at Texas. As a very, very casual football watcher, and by that, I mean, really largely international play. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:23:02 It blows my mind when that happens. And it happens a lot. People that are, I'd be like, you know, that guy's 16. I'm like, how? He's playing with grown men. It's ridiculous. It's totally ridiculous. All right.
Starting point is 00:23:16 One more, one more quarterback from me, and we're going to have some, we're going to have plenty of back and forth conversations. I know you have two more as well. Yes, I got two more. I want to talk about Nussmeyer still, even though, I mean, it doesn't, it, no, I can't do it. It doesn't feel like last week really moved the needle one way or the other, but I don't, this is the guy that I just, he's firmly in round one, man. Oh, no question.
Starting point is 00:23:43 Garrett, if the draft was today, I think he'd be the first overall pick if the team picking first needed a quarterback. That deep throw, then ended up not counting, was gorgeous. The one of Barry and Brown? Yeah. It was gorgeous. Yep. But with Nussmeier.
Starting point is 00:23:56 You can't throw a fade like that any better. Oh, my goodness. With Nussmeier, I mean, because you walk away from the day with, okay, 232 yards, one touchdown. It's like, okay, that's against Clemson, number one, which we talk about multiple top picks on that defense. And it's not just in the secondary with Aviont Terrell. It's the two fellas up front as well.
Starting point is 00:24:15 Yep. I mean, Peter Woods is my top player going. of the year but also dude Peter Woods DeMonte Capehart T.J. Parker. It's crazy. Sammy Brown at the linebacker level. It is Terell. Like that defense is stacked. Loaded.
Starting point is 00:24:29 Stacked. I just like Nuss Myers feel, control, poise. He really, and I know this could be a boring cliche, but this is somebody that, and this is basically the highest compliment you maybe can give a college quarterback in this era of football, he
Starting point is 00:24:45 really understands how to play the position. he really does and he's got enough physical ability as a thrower of why he'll be regarded that way so it's maybe i'm buying into my own bias because i liked him so much coming into the season but that was a game where the box score won't blow you away but watching the game and then watching the film back i really really like garret and us myer i think throughout the pre-draft process somebody is going to look at him and go you know can he kind of be or i'm not comparing him to this player, but how the lion's offense is a high-octane passing offense with Jared Goff, I think people are going to look at Garrett-Nusmire and say, we can have a high-octane
Starting point is 00:25:25 passing offense with Garrett-Nus-Meyer. We don't always need that dynamic rushing threat all the time. High-octane's probably my favorite phrase to describe what Garrett Nussmeier brings to the table. I know that it wasn't a perfect day from him, 65.7 passing grade, but the man was asked to throw the ball 41 times he had oh where was he suggested completion percentage must have been over 70 because the regular completion percentage was like 68 and a half the um i think even higher right yeah yeah that whoa this can't be right time to throw 2.09 that can't be right that's what i'm this is exactly what i'm talking about though when you watch him oh you don't even need to go to the all 22 it's nice to after to see the other reads and progressions
Starting point is 00:26:15 But when you watch this guy play on a broadcast, I think the casual fan can see how he plays the position literally like a pro. Yes. And I believe that number. He plays the position as if his dad was an offensive coordinator. That's how I would explain it. Right. For an NFL team, maybe. For an NFL team, yes.
Starting point is 00:26:35 That's how I would explain it. Dude, we have. Do you think his dad, Doug, if the Saints hit a rough patch this year, and I think they're favored in one game going into the year, Do you think Doug's going to walk into the coaches meeting if they're like 1 in 10 and go, well, we'd be 500 if my son was the quarterback instead of these bugs.
Starting point is 00:26:54 He might. He might, and he might not be wrong. And he wouldn't be wrong. Yeah. And he would not be wrong. Look, it says 2.09 average time to throw, which is bananas, if that's actually true. You're very skeptical of the internet today.
Starting point is 00:27:10 You don't believe Jalen Daniels is 22. You don't believe Nussmeyer's time to throw. Yeah, you're doing your own research over there. Yeah, why don't you look up to Denver airport while we're at it. This podcast, it's never been more over. Stay woke. All right, so I want to talk about the quarterback who was on the other side of that LSU and Clemson game.
Starting point is 00:27:38 I do want to talk about K-Clubnik, because for as much as it was great to see Gera and Nussmeyer get to win, well, depending on who you were rooting for. It was great to see Garrett Nussmeyer play well. I probably should have said that. It wasn't necessarily rooting for LSU, but I was rooting for these quarterbacks to play really well. I don't think that Cade played poorly, but I don't think that he sees the moment the way that Nussmeyer did, even though their passing grades aren't too different. Cade had a 51.8 passing grade against LSU, one big time throw, one turnover where you play. Going back and watching that game from him, the part that, um,
Starting point is 00:28:14 worry seems like a strong word again because he's got like the whole season and then even now like we talk about these guys if they're finished products and they're not but right now clubnik was not able to either respect or see the safeties from lSU the way that he needed to there were multiple times in that game where he would have the correct numbers to one side and he wouldn't now i understand like sometimes the play is not designed for him to look that direction but pre snap He would have seen, like there was a specific play where I think he had trips to his right and it was the boundary side of the field. So it was the short side of the field and he had three receiving options to his right. There were enough defensive backs on that side of the field to account for all three of the options. And then there was a safety over top. So the defense had numbers to that side of the formation. And not only that, the safety was firmly on the hash marks of the field side, of the short side. short side of the field. So the safety didn't even have to move a lot to get over the top of
Starting point is 00:29:20 whatever vertical route was coming. And it was a bit of an out route. It was like a curled out route from, I believe, the number two wide receiver in the formation, if I remember it correctly. And not only is the wide receiver not really open, the safety very, very easily was over top and closing on this player and caved through it that way. And he's lucky that I think it just went out of bounds or it was a past defendant. It was lucky because it could have been intercepted. And there was another, there was another, there were a couple more plays where you could tell the play was designed for it to be a little bit of a quick in, like a slant or even like a, like a seven yard post or something. But the safety pre-snap was right there and sort of like knew it was coming and Cade kept trying to force it in that direction. There was one time where there was a deep seam route against a single high coverage safety where it's like, hey, middle of the fields.
Starting point is 00:30:14 not open because the way that you can talk about it is if there's two deep safeties, then they often call that middle of the field open because obviously like one safety would have to shift over to make sure that they're closing the middle of the field in between the hash marks. If there is a single high safety, you would call that middle of the field closed. Now obviously things can move pre and post snap and depending on what the coverage assignment is for that play, the safeties can move, the assignments can move. So it's not like the middle of the field is always going to be open or close, but you can identify that in the pre-snap. And there were times when
Starting point is 00:30:44 Cade was looking at the safety pre-snap, but he just, he didn't respect it or he wasn't comfortable getting off script the way that he wanted to. And that's really how I sort of encapsulate what I thought of him in that game. I didn't feel like he was very comfortable or wanted to get off the script as much as LSU demanded him to in this game. And I think his passing grade under pressure below 50 also showcases that. So that's a little bit of my reservation with K Klubnick anyways. If he's going to be a shorter stature quarterback prospect with what I think would be an okay NFL arm, you've got to be able to process things at a very, very high level.
Starting point is 00:31:31 Like that's what Brock Purdy does really well, right? Purdy is elite at this point at recognizing things pre-snap, knowing where to go with the football. And even though he isn't the biggest quarterback in the world or has the best arm talent in the world, he can layer and touch throw the football exactly where he needs to because he understands what the defense is trying to throw at him. That's what Klubnik needs to be. He wasn't quite that against LSU. And I honestly think that that's why LSU was able to get the win in the end. So plenty of time for him to improve. Plenty of time for him to improve in that area in the NFL as well once he gets there. But that is a little bit of why I'm still a little
Starting point is 00:32:10 bit lower on Kate Clevenick and what I saw from him on Saturday. Yeah, I totally get it. I was a little higher on him than you and I have my concerns. You know, once again, being a smaller quarterback and the ways he's going to have to win at the next level like you highlighted is something that he's going to have to showcase on the college field this year in the bigger games. That's a lot of the questions around Clubnik right now. And, you know, you didn't get a lot of those answers in week one, to be honest with you. And he's going to have to show it at some point. this season because Clemson's going to be playing in a lot of big games with how much
Starting point is 00:32:43 talent they have despite the early loss. Yep. Last guy for me that I'm a shout out, Fernando Mendoza, now at Indiana. He was at Cal. Now he's at Indiana. He had a 61.4 passing grade this past weekend in Indiana's win. One big time throw, one turnover worthy play, noteworthy, just a 51.2% completion percentage from Fernando Mendoza.
Starting point is 00:33:04 You know, when you and I watched him and talked about him over summer scouting, it felt like the way that I think some other people in the scouting community talk about him I was a little oh man again disappointed seems harsh of a word but I thought I would see more from him I really did watching his cal tape but I will say
Starting point is 00:33:24 despite that it was a one big time throw one turnover with he play and near 50% completion percentage kind of a day Connor I think Fernando Mendoza is going to get drafted high now I don't know where I'm going to have him in my rankings. I don't know where you're going to have him in your rankings. Obviously, we were lower on him than I think a lot of the other draft community is.
Starting point is 00:33:44 And for reasons of inconsistency and putting the ball in harm's way, I think he had more turnover he plays last year than he had big time throws. That style was still prevalent in his first game of this season with Indiana. However, the armed talent is there for him. I watched him complete multiple opposite hash mark out route to the side. sideline throws. I watched him perfectly time a sale concept to hit the middle receiver as he was going to the sideline. I just saw him attempt. Sorry, I should say, understand, attempt and complete NFL throws in week one that I went, duh, the league's just going to
Starting point is 00:34:30 draft this guy high. Like, I get it. I get it. I don't know where I'm going to have him when it's all said and done. But he just, he does the NFL throw. throws already and I think that a lot of NFL teams are going to look at it and be like I don't care if it's inconsistent I've seen them do it so I'll take him in the top 60 because that's where I feel like his projection is right now I'm in no way comparing
Starting point is 00:34:50 him to this player but exactly what you just said and watching the tape against Old Dominion his first game for Indiana it's that is the Daniel Jones kind of feel right and Daniel Jones had some good moments of the Giants
Starting point is 00:35:06 and things didn't work out there ultimately how he hoped and now he's got a second chance as a starter with the Colts but Mendoza is big he's got a strong arm I think he's it's weird he was effective in this game as a runner but he's a clunky scrambler there's a difference when there's a designed run he gets north and gets what they need on the call when he scrambles he's got a little bit of like the big shoulder pad mac Jones feel and once again Sometimes it works, but he's definitely an interesting watch as a scrambler. I know he had the one turnover worthy. Number one, the best throw, the only big time throw was the bomb that was inexplicably dropped.
Starting point is 00:35:49 That was a beautiful throw. Yeah, it was. I love that you called out, you know, that outside the numbers throws because those stood out to me. The one turnover worthy play in our system was, I don't know what he was thinking. He lobs up a punt to three guys and they, on Old Dominion, they wanted it so bad. I was going to say, that was a triple coverage one, right? They all wanted it. Yes, they all wanted it so badly.
Starting point is 00:36:12 They bowling pinned each other, and then nobody got it. But then he had, this is the one that was actually worse to me. He had one in the second quarter. They're only up by three. It's second and five at the five. So this is red zone. He drops back. He scrambles from a clean pocket, which is college quarterbacks do that all the time.
Starting point is 00:36:34 Old Dominion wisely has the middle linebacker spying him. So when he leaves the pocket, the spy goes right after him. If he stays in the pocket, the protection's good because I think it's a three-man rush. The spy goes after him when he leaves the pocket. And as the spy is wrapping him up at about the seven, he's about halfway to the ground. Oh, he throws it. And he throws it. And honestly, he is very lucky.
Starting point is 00:37:02 It was not a red zone interception. Thought the same thing. It was a bad decision. It's the decisions that I did not like over the summer watching him at Cal. But I agree with you. Mendoza is going to have these weeks where we go, that's what an NFL quarterback prospect looks like. He's big. He's got a good arm.
Starting point is 00:37:19 In this day and age, there's enough you could do with him on the short area designed runs at the goal line or even to get a third and four. But there's a lot of clunkiness in between. This was not a good level of competition. The Big Ten is a bloodbath this year. they are in this crate like everybody expects ohio state rightfully so Oregon Penn state to make the college football playoff then you have Michigan's around plus 200 Illinois and Indiana are plus 500
Starting point is 00:37:49 they're trying to be that fourth team you're going to see some really tough defenses to get over that hump which is a great opportunity for Mendoza but hopefully he's up to speed and and playing at that level to capitalize on it I have I still have my concerns I do yep I do too I do too. And that's, we had the exact same thoughts coming out of watching that tape. I just, the continuous thought that I had is, God, the league's going to draft this guy high. Yeah, I think they'll love him. I think they will. Whether or not he's close to complete as a prospect or not.
Starting point is 00:38:20 That's why I don't know where he's going to be for us, but it is worth talking about him in that regard. We're going to talk a little bit more about quarterbacks when we get to some of you guys's tweets and some shoutouts that you had. But that's the quarterback carousel for us here on week one of the stock watch before we get to our stock update on some stock up, stock down players. This PFF betting segment is brought to you by our friends over at Draft Kings. If you pull up the beautiful Draft Kings Sportsbook app, you can see all the lines, the player props, all of that great stuff. Of course, the lines are subject to change from when we're talking about it here on this show.
Starting point is 00:38:54 But, Connor, for another little parlay that we got in the NFL this week, everybody loves a good parlay. Dude, I get that it's in Buffalo. But the Ravens get a point in a half. Anytime Lamar Jackson gets a point a half. I'm taking Lamar Jackson. I'm just kidding. Because here's the thing.
Starting point is 00:39:11 You probably think that's a coin flip game anyways, right? Yeah. I mean, sure. I'll take the points. I'll take, I'll take the point a half. Actually, they are literally telling you it is because this is a common misconception. Homefield advantage is actually closer to a point in a half. So they are.
Starting point is 00:39:29 Like, don't people normally think it's three? Everybody says three. It's not. Yeah, I was going to say. That feels like it's too. That's a lot of points just for playing at home. It's about a point and a half, depending on where and everything, it could be up to two. So they are telling you what they think of these teams, evenly matched.
Starting point is 00:39:44 Yeah, so I like, I like, I like, let's get a point out. You don't know my fun one to add to our part. Yeah, what do you got? You come out with the absolute firecracker. I'm here to give you Steelers, Jets, under 38.5 points. Yeah, baby. Nobody wants to throw the ball in this game. Nobody wants to throw the ball.
Starting point is 00:40:01 Justin Fields and the Jets. You know what? you know the Jets are not going to throw the ball. Their 53 man roster right now has four tight ends and a foeback. No way. Yes, it does. Yes, it does. They are carrying Mason Taylor,
Starting point is 00:40:17 Jeremy Rucker, Jelani Woods, Andrew Beck is the fullback, and Stone Smart is the fourth, the third or fourth tight end. Oh, Aaron Glenn. And Aaron Rogers didn't, he doesn't typically play a lot in the preseason. We haven't seen much of him this summer.
Starting point is 00:40:31 It's Arthur Smith. Arthur Smith. I think the Steelers were fourth in rushing attempts. last season, they're not going to get away from that. I love this line. Under 38 and a half points. Even if the game's like 24 to 7. And guess what Trevor? It might fucking rain.
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Starting point is 00:43:26 Brevard? This is... Never heard of the man. I didn't watch him this summer. Is this your new name? No. This is just a stockwatch guy. This is just a fellow who deserves a shout out. This is just a large fella. Didn't even know what his stock was, but it's up. 6.3.346 pounds.
Starting point is 00:43:45 Before transferring to Texas this year, he played 37 games for Purdue. This man might be one of the best run defending tackles in the entire country of how he played against Ohio State. What was his great? He had a 84.4 run defense grade. Okay. He played 18 defensive snaps against the run. He only had four pass rush snaps. Trevor, he, so 18 snaps against the run.
Starting point is 00:44:16 In our system, there's positively graded plays where you made a significant difference in a great way on that play. He did that on 39% of his run snaps. Against Ohio State. It's not like everybody else is out there. He was eating double and triple teams. This guy, he is a wall against the run, Cole Brevard. I was like, I'm watching the game. I'm like, and I know a lot of the story, rightfully so,
Starting point is 00:44:45 is about Ohio State's defense and how much arch struggled. But I'm watching this game. I'm like, this Texas defense is keeping them in it. These guys up front are fighting their ass off right now. They got a transfer from Purdue, who's a one-man wrecking crew against the run. Cobrevard he is as strong as they come and he is I don't even know if he's really sick
Starting point is 00:45:05 he might be six two and he is legitimately 340 plus pounds they have them listed 346 this dude plays low to the ground and you cannot move him you can't move him think that Puna Ford style football sure sure yeah it's this great watch this sounds like our week one
Starting point is 00:45:24 meat fabric a hundred percent the meat fabric meat umbrella player of the week. Of course, M-E-A-T for the meat fabric player of the week. Cole Brevard. All right. This fella. Gotta watch him. I owe you
Starting point is 00:45:39 apology. I was not familiar with your game, young man. Was not familiar with your girth. Pause. Okay. So, it's a tree stump at the One Tech. I think that I will stay along the beef train then. And shout out your boy.
Starting point is 00:45:55 Somebody who we talked about in the top ten of our mock draft. on Monday, Ruben Bain Jr. from Mike. Oh, the Bain train. I mean, this guy was given
Starting point is 00:46:09 them boys hell out there. Yeah, stop the fight. I mean, he was given Notre Dame hell. 92.6 overall grade against Notre Dame, 90.6 run defense grade, 82.5 pass-risk grade.
Starting point is 00:46:25 The thing that impresses me the most about Ruben Bain isn't just like the overall grades, but it's how he plays. This young man is forklift certified, meaning that he wins with leverage every single play to just forklift these offensive linemen that way, way more than him. I mean, some of these offensive linemen, this is somebody who will play on the edge. He can play everything from a wide nine, he can play a wide seven, he can play a head-up, five-technique defensive end, you can kick him inside to a four-eye, you can kick him inside to a three-technique defensive tackle. And the reason why he's able to hold up in all of those situations and win in all
Starting point is 00:47:01 those situations is because first and foremost, he plays a great pad level to forklift these offensive linemen up and on their heels, even though they outweigh him and might have some more mass and strength than he does. He wins with the technique that way. And then Connor, when I watch this guy rush from a five, seven, or nine technique, I don't know if I want to call it bend because I don't know if it's necessarily Ben because he's a bigger defense event I agree but he turns the corner he does so he knows how to corner
Starting point is 00:47:33 I don't think he has it's legitimate bend like flexibility bend no but there is a skill level of cornering it is the tightest corner as well like he will the thing that I like a lot about Ruben Bain is he wins with his hands a lot so what he will do
Starting point is 00:47:51 is whether it is like with a, you know, arm over kind of swim move, or maybe it's a two-handed swipe, or maybe it's like a club and a rip, or whatever it is, he is always hugging the outside shoulder of the offensive tackle, not a matter of if I'm going to beat this offensive tackle to his outside shoulder, it's just a matter of how I'm going to do it
Starting point is 00:48:14 and how tight of a corner I'm going to turn when I do it. So he times his moves up so well to where the space in between him and the offensive tackle when he is turning the corner and getting around the pocket to the quarterback is so small. And guys, that is by design. That is an art. You work on that. You train for that. So sort of, of, you know, of course, like some of it is, you know, natural athletic ability.
Starting point is 00:48:39 But he is also very clearly mastering his craft of how to get to the quarterback as quickly as possible. So he was great in run defense. He was great as a pass rusher. Ruperman Bain Jr. This is a top 10 player in the class right now. I think he is a top 10 player, and we drafted him at number nine overall to the Cowboys in the mock draft to show that. He's a stud, man. He really is. Well, you gave a little love to a player that I couldn't get enough of this summer.
Starting point is 00:49:07 I'm going to shout out you because during our tight end episode, you shouted out Marlon Klein, the tight end at Michigan. From, from tight end you, the actual nation of Germany. Yes. They just keep pumping out tight end prospects at an alarming rate, folks. It is unbelievable. Marlon Klein was awesome in Michigan's opener. He is 6'4.6. He's got an incredible catch radius that he knows how to use.
Starting point is 00:49:32 I think he is developing and learning how to compete as a blocker. And that is really, really going to change the type of prospect he ultimately will be. But right now, it's all about the receiver he is. And I thought Klein showed Trevor that he can run the seam. He can get over the top of linebackers. And he knows how to tempo himself where he doesn't crash into the safety. once again he uses his catch radius there was one play that underwood was a little backed up and Klein does a chip and release and Underwood knows he has to get 18 year old knows he has to
Starting point is 00:50:05 get the ball out or else he's in danger of taking his safety and he floated one I mean it's a real loft throw it's like I mean it's really high up in the air right over the coverage and Klein's extension on this catch was awesome and he's got juice after the catch for a big man he's He's a good athlete. He was so intriguing when I watched him this summer. I looked at him and I was like, dude, there is more potential there for you as an athlete. In an offense that could actually throw the football now, I think Marlon Klein is going to have an awesome year. Yep.
Starting point is 00:50:36 I love the shout out there. I think that he is. We mentioned it might not be the most star-studded tight-end class, but it feels like a tight-end class where there's round two, round three, round four. There's just multiple of these guys that are taken. and even guys on day three that you'll take a chance on. Like, Marlon Klein, Oscar Del. Like Oscar Del, finally had a, I'm never wrong, just early. I finally had a good receiving day.
Starting point is 00:51:01 He didn't have, it wasn't a heavy volume day, but they threw him the ball. He was effective and it was a good receiving grade. But like even guys like that, you're drafting those guys mid to late day three. And we'll see how much better they can get this upcoming season. So very excited about this tight end class. Love that you're giving Marlon Klein and Germany, tight end you, another. shout out here. I'll stick at the receiver portion of things with Carnell Tate.
Starting point is 00:51:27 This is stock up for Carnell Tate. I think it has to be. He was the only guy on Ohio State's team to have a receiving grade above 70 at a 73.1 receiving grade this past weekend. You know, it was like most of that game. It was it was kind of a slug fest of all offenses that were really not in sync. They really weren't in tune. They weren't in midseason form, if you will. So they were
Starting point is 00:51:47 figuring it out. But when you watch Carnell Tate and how he moves, specifically one of the reps that he had where he caught the ball at the sideline. I quote tweeted this on Twitter on Saturday. The way that he gets out of his release, eats up the cushion, chops his feet, turns and flips his hips to create that separation,
Starting point is 00:52:04 comes back to the ball, catches it extended with two hands, and then toe taps the sideline to make the catch. I mean, it doesn't get better than that. That's a master class. Like that is somebody who very clearly is winning at this position
Starting point is 00:52:17 with athleticism and IQ. I was, I was, I think I was lower on Carnell Tate when we went through our wide receiver episode simply because I almost just wanted to see more. Like I, I know he has more in him. And it was, I probably was unfairly comparing him to what I think he could be versus where he was last season. And even just in week one, we saw some more flashes of that. So Ohio State's got another one.
Starting point is 00:52:41 You know, it's not Jeremiah, just Jeremiah Smith. They've got Carnell Tate this year as well. It's a absolute factory up there in Columbus, Ohio. and Carnell Tate, I think he's getting, the more comfortable, more aggressive, more confident Julian San gets a quarterback, you're only going to see more of that production there from Carnell Tate. And so I'm a fan of his. I'm slowly getting back up to probably where I should have been with Carnal Tate, but a really good first showing for him against a really good secondary in the Texas strong ones. Yeah, it was a really good test. Tate looked apart. Obviously, I thought Julian Sane being able to get
Starting point is 00:53:18 That ball to him was very impressive. The play you were talking about along the sideline, and Tate showed you, like many Ohio Statewide receivers, his attention to detail is very, very high. He's an intelligent, gifted wide receiver. I'll go with another big school player here, and there'll be a lot of that in the beginning, and we'll get even deeper in the weeds along the season,
Starting point is 00:53:41 although we are going to, I have a small school player for when we bring a new name to the table. But Witt Weeks, the linebacker at LSU, man, I just love the way this dude plays. The play speed, the IQ. There was a play where Klubnik ran a quarterback draw, and I think it was, if it wasn't empty, it was one running back. But LSU looks like they're bringing a lot of pressure from the outside, and Weeks recognizes the draw almost like a six cents and fills back inside and stops the play.
Starting point is 00:54:15 But he also had, I think, three quarterback hurries, and they were play altering because of his closing speed. He was able to move Clubnick and really stop him from being able to make a play. This is just the guy that plays 140 miles an hour all the time. You feel him in the game nonstop, whether he's chasing the quarterback, see ball, get ball. It's pretty obvious why Whit Weeks is mentioned with the top linebackers in this draft. I don't know if you saw the Netflix show any given Saturday. You should. There's a specific SEC network host that makes a couple of analysis points
Starting point is 00:54:52 and cameos there throughout that Netflix series, which you guys should watch. But Whit Weeks is featured heavily. He's just a country dude who loves to play linebacker. Yeah, he loves it. All 32 teams in the NFL are going to want this guy. It's just a matter of, is he big enough? Like, is he big enough to play linebacker at the NFL level?
Starting point is 00:55:10 I think he'll be fine. He's getting drafted. There's no question about it. It's just a matter of where he gets drafted. He plays a position of relative less importance where, you know, the margin between, you know, what a good linebacker is, a replaceable linebacker is, a day three linebacker. Like, it's smaller just because there's a lot of guys who can do that job. But Whit Weeks does his job very, very well.
Starting point is 00:55:30 Both him and Harold Perkins Jr. It was great to see Harold Perkins Jr. Flying around like he had been in the past. It feels like he is embracing a little bit more of that true offball linebacker role, but they are letting him be an attacking force while doing it. I think they're kind of having him in the role, and I'm not comparing him necessarily as prospects, but they're letting him do sort of what Edger and Cooper did,
Starting point is 00:55:50 where it's like, okay, your coverage reps, Harold Perkins Jr., are going to be, you know, quick out routes, things to the flat, things that continue to keep things in front of you, which I felt like a lot of what Edger and Cooper did when he was at Texas A&M, and then the rest of it was elite run defense stuff where you're just having him trigger downhill against RPO's
Starting point is 00:56:10 and, you know, Green Dog Blitzes and things like that. So it was great to see Harold Perkins Jr. out there playing well. Him and Whitwick seemed to have a lot of chemistry and a ton of speed at the second level for LSU. Last guy I'm talking about here in the stock update portion of this show. Your boy, I'm giving another one of your guys a shout out here. Cassius Howe from Texas A&M, the edge rusher there. This is a major stock up for me, 83.7 pass-risk grade against UTSA, 26.1%. pass rush win percentage.
Starting point is 00:56:42 He had one of the cleanest cross-chop wins you'll ever see. Like he set up the offensive tackle with his shoulders. And then boom, it's like he almost like he hit the inside foot as if he was going to go inside. And the offensive tackle opened up his hips. And then just he immediately planted on that foot and just straight cross-chopped him. And then you can see him immediately just goes into a club to the outside shoulder. the offensive tackle does not have a snowball's chance in hell howl gets straight around him and if the ball didn't come out quick for the
Starting point is 00:57:15 quarterback he might have been broken in half he by god he would have been broken in half my god is my witness he killed him so good shout out jim ross um so that is i mean i'm watching this guy play and the thing that i love about how this year and what i saw in in game one. Connor, he definitely looks bigger. He definitely looks like he has put on good weight. He's got an athletic build. He looks bigger. I thought he played a little bit small last
Starting point is 00:57:47 year. I thought that, okay, the flexibility kind of wasn't there for him and I felt like, okay, well, this is a lighter rusher who doesn't play with the best flexibility, but man, the way that he was working his hands, the added strength that he had and just another year, the technique
Starting point is 00:58:03 is better. He can win in all three ways as a rusher. Technique, speed, strength. I really do think this is someone who has the potential to be one of the best pass rushers in this class and somebody that we talk about as a top 15 pick when it's all said and done.
Starting point is 00:58:21 I don't want to get too carried away with it, but man, he has the potential. And Cassius Howe, he is a major stockup for me as somebody who had him a little bit lower. I think I had him in the early 40s. I mean, in my most recent big board, because I'm sort of adjusting it week to week, and then I'll have a major update probably once every four weeks to recheck things. He'll be in the 20s, at least for me.
Starting point is 00:58:43 He really will be. I thought he, once again, I thought he was the best pass rusher on that team last year. And think of all the draftics they had. He is. He's the best pass rusher. If you throw in Nick Gordon, if you throw in Shamar Stewart, if you throw in Shamar Turner, I think Cassius Howells got the chance to be the best pro out of any of them. All right, you want the new name?
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Starting point is 01:00:19 Who we got? Kishon James Newby, EdgeRusher, Auxon, Love to start with a hyphen. Listen to the road that this guy is taken. He's from Montana, obviously not a recruit. He starts his career at Montana Tech, NAAIA football. Okay. Second year at Montana Tech, first team all conference.
Starting point is 01:00:43 Gets the transfer up to the FCS, Idaho, eventually becomes first team all big sky, first team FCS All-American. His fifth year gets to transfer up to FBS, New Mexico. So every level of competition, this. This guy has passed the test and gotten a transfer up. His last season at Idaho, 10 and a half sacks. So now he's at New Mexico. Your first FBS game, welcome to the big house.
Starting point is 01:01:09 You get to play against Michigan. I'll tell you what, I was really impressed. He's listed 6-2-244. He is a lighter edge rusher, a smaller edge rusher. Number one, as a pass-rusher, he can bend. He beat the right tackle on a play. And New Mexico hung around this game. Like, Michigan, every time New Mexico got momentum, Michigan was able to respond.
Starting point is 01:01:35 But watching, when you watch the first half, you were like, oh, this thing's, there's no runaway in the first half with this game. So that meant Underwood got to actually drop back and throw. There was a rep from James Newby, Kishon James Newby, if you're looking to watch him, where he beats the right tackle just with pure bend, which I love to see. But the real thing is when you look at an edge rusher that size, you're like, is he going to get run over against the run? Dude, he set a hard edge against this Michigan offensive line against the run. He battled against the run. He played pretty physical. So this is someone to me, once again, has taken a really long road to even become the thought of an NFL prospect.
Starting point is 01:02:14 First time I ever watched him play, I was like, this guy is going in the spreadsheet. And I want to see if he can make an all-star game and capitalize. Because if you could bend and you could be competitive against the run, then you are going to be on the NFL's radar. I love it. I love it. I don't remember seeing him on any All-Star Bowl watch list, although this Shrine Bowl had the top 1,000, so they might have him on there.
Starting point is 01:02:36 I just don't remember his name, but that's a great shout-out, somebody who obviously has climbed his way up to a great level of competition, and if he continues to ball out, you know, the NFL is absolutely going to notice. So love that shout out there. My new name, I'm going to take us back a little bit, Baylor-wide receiver, Cole Wilson.
Starting point is 01:02:54 This was the smaller, explosive wide receiver who had over 130 receiving yards against, oh, who did Baylor play? Who did Baylor play in the opener? Come on. Oh, somebody good. Why is this?
Starting point is 01:03:07 Why am I absolutely? Auburn. They played Auburn. I was going to say, they were actually somebody that actually played a real team. Yes, yeah. There's only a few of those this week.
Starting point is 01:03:17 They played Auburn. He had over 130 receiving yards. He had 11 targets. He had eight receptions. 71 yards after the catch. And despite being five, 5 foot 9, 171 pounds. Still had two contested catches on his two contested catch chances.
Starting point is 01:03:34 So you love to see that as well. Connor, this kid can fly. I think this kid, this kid's got the juice. He's played special teams as well. He's a big time deep threat in his previous stops in college football, which started incarnate word. And then it was Texas State the last couple of years in 2023 and 24. Now he transfers up to Baylor.
Starting point is 01:03:52 And I went back and I watched some of the tape from the Texas State days. And he looks like he's blown by. people. He does. But then he also looked like he was blown by some Auburn defenders when he were watching that game. So you love to see that. But the playmaker mentality, the strong hands is something I absolutely love from him. He has somebody
Starting point is 01:04:09 who, sometimes you get these smaller receivers and they're not always aggressive at the catch point. You know, sometimes they're just like letting the ball come into their chest or they're trying to sort of like scoop catch it. They're not really attacking the ball when it's in the air. So many times, Sir Robertson
Starting point is 01:04:26 wasn't the most accurate. that game against Auburn. And there were times when he was getting the ball close, but it was a little off target. And yet, little Cole Wilson was just able to pluck the ball out of the air with strong hands, immediately turn up field and become a playmaker.
Starting point is 01:04:41 That's how he gets 71 yards after the catch. So he also, not only did he utilize that speed after the catch, I saw some nice route running chops from him as well. He was using that speed and that body control to create that separation. There were times when he was great at attacking the off coverage when he was running a slot fade or he was just trying to get vertical, whatever it was inside or out. And he was always trying to fake the defensive back just to get him to open up their hips a little bit,
Starting point is 01:05:05 knowing that he has the speed. If he's able to do that, he's able to get up and buy him. So I was really impressed with who he was as a speed wide receiver. Now, you know, somebody who's probably at this point, maybe a day three guy, but more games like the one against Auburn. And that speed plays at the NFL level. And we're seeing more and more nowadays that if you can run and if you can utilize explosives in this before and after,
Starting point is 01:05:26 the catch. The NFL is going to draft some of these little wide receivers. These guys who are much smaller when it comes to the percentiles for like height and weight. And especially if you are willing to go up and be aggressive when the ball's in the air, which I felt like Cole Wilson was against Auburn. So that's my shout of for him. I like it. I really enjoyed watching him against Auburn. I like it. And he's got a quarterback like you said, had some misses in that game. But in theory, Sawyer Robertson is going to be able to get him the ball down the field. When you look at some limitations that certain prospects have that are out of their hands, that's a really good sign that he is in an offense with the quarterback that, once again,
Starting point is 01:06:05 we'll be able to take some shots. All right. I feel like I should read some responses and some shoutouts from the good people as well here on some players. They were up and down from the Stockwatch. We had a couple of people, T.J. Winger and J. Wack said Mansour Delane, the corner from Virginia Tech, who is now, at LSU. Great game.
Starting point is 01:06:27 He had a great game. Yeah, definitely worth shouting him out somebody to, somebody who I felt like, I felt like Delane could have potentially been a top 100 pick if he would have come out in last year's draft because he was draft eligible. But now he's going to LSU and trying to increase his stock to be a top 50 pick, obviously.
Starting point is 01:06:45 But I think it was a really good start from him. So I love that shout out. Jay Wack also said Marlon Klein, wanted a shout out there as well. So you and him see eye to eye there. had a couple of people who shouted out Jermaine Matthews, the cornerback from Ohio State, who
Starting point is 01:07:00 I did think had a solid day, and I think he had like a 71.7 coverage grade. He had the interception. He also gave up the touchdown. Right. And it was, you know, I went back and I watched the film of him, and he's still a step behind seems harsh, but like
Starting point is 01:07:18 he was still reacting instead of anticipating where he could have been doing the latter. And so it's still a little bit of a work in progress for him, but it was a good game to start. So Jermaine Matthews the corner from Ohio State, I think it's a good shout out there. Cardiac Cats shouting out Jordan Tyson from Arizona State. We kind of talking about him a little bit. Yeah. Dude, Slen is, is shouting out Jordan Dwyer from TCU, the wide receiver, who was on the receiving end of a lot of great Josh Hoover passes that night. He seems like a stud. And I know that Slein's not the only
Starting point is 01:07:50 fan of him. Dalton Washington Washington likes Dwyer. He thinks he's a very interesting wide receiver, one that he wanted to get on our radar as well. So, Dwyer. Transfer? Yes, he was at I'll look it up. Because I remember I remember. Yeah, he was another
Starting point is 01:08:06 Idaho guy. Yes, that's it. Idaho had him and newbie. They had a good team last year. That's a problem where you're a good FCS team. You get rated. You get rated in the portal now. True. You do. Which I mean, good for those guys to get a shot at a higher level,
Starting point is 01:08:23 but yeah, good call out on Dwyer for sure. He had 12 targets, 10 receptions, 147, six first down catches. Yeah, he's just, he was a beast. Putting an absolute sword through Bill Belichick, whatever's left of Bill Belichick.
Starting point is 01:08:39 Oh, tough. Tough. Is it? I mean, it's only tough because people are going to be annoying about it. Okay, I agree. There are a lot of people like, people are going to be like,
Starting point is 01:08:48 oh, Bill's, it was only time. Shut up. He's one of not the greatest coach in NFL history. Shut up. It's probably a step too far. But this is the world we live in. Michael Wilbon did a really good long rant on how this is just like the world we live in now where Arch Manning plays one bad game.
Starting point is 01:09:08 Everyone's like, oh, Arch stinks. Like Bill Belichick, you know, loses his college football debut. And everyone's like, it was always all Brady. We erase. We erase so many years. of something in one little moment to a rat it's crazy it's crazy it's the tic-tok era it's your era van my era yeah you're you're you're a ticot guy you're younger than me 45 45 seconds uh yeah i think by a by a very small margin i was gonna say by a very small
Starting point is 01:09:41 margin call me ticot generation uh lu wants me to shout out uh deny dennis stutton the edge rusher from penn state who Connor i don't know if you caught this 96 point 7 run defense grade this past. Yeah, he was getting a lot of love. I had a lot of people tweeting at us, rightfully so. They're like, you guys got to talk about this guy. And I'm like, we did during summer scouting. But now if he keeps this up, because Penn State's going to, in theory,
Starting point is 01:10:06 be very, very good this year. So it's just like every time one goes off to the NFL, he looks at the next guy up and goes, you now have my powers. Micah Parsons, Abdul Carter. And there's been a lot of other guys along the way. but yeah he also damn he also had a 85.4 passers I mean he was he terrorized the entire game he had a 30% passes win percentage this game yeah what do you go three for nine uh 10 pass rush reps I was close you were actually pretty close so yeah you are pretty close there um he
Starting point is 01:10:45 was three for 10 I will say that the the run defense numbers are a little over and because he had two force fumbles that were that he punched out which i'm not taking it away from it no yeah you do that you are god it's not like it's not like he was you know choke slamming somebody like cane in the center of the ring and a run defense rep and then grabbing the running back with the other hand so it wasn't quite doing that so we're boosting it up by um by the force fumbles a little bit but it is still a good shout out peter woods was basically doing that in the game he would just when he didn't want to be blocked anymore he chose not to be blocked anymore he just went full Sith Lord and just put out both of his arms and just grabbed the offensive tackle or the
Starting point is 01:11:22 offensive guard in the center? Yes. Bears fan said up Keldrick Falk from this past weekend, down Kaden Green. Ooh, I didn't watch Kaden Green. I didn't either. I have one shout out. Okay. Miller Moss, who is now Louisville's quarterback. Yes.
Starting point is 01:11:38 Had the rare big time throw that was intercepted. I think it's one of the best throws I watched from the. weekend because I wanted to watch Chris Bell on that offense. And we talked about Miller Moss during Summer Scouting. I'm going to keep up with him as well. I was about to ask, where is he now? I totally forgot. Louisville. And Miller Moss had one of the
Starting point is 01:12:00 best throws of the weekend. It's a deep shot down the sideline. I'm looking it up right. The wide receiver has a step on the coverage. It lands right in his hands. And as he's going to the ground, the ball pops out of him up into the defender. But it's a
Starting point is 01:12:16 beautiful. I mean, a beautiful throw down the field that is inexplicably an interception and his other interception was a tipped pass so he had two of the worst interceptions in the box score that you'll see because he graded it up very very I just watched it I mean it is hilarious dude he had a hold on a second he had a very good look I like Miller Moss Miller Moss went off yeah he had some nice He was chucking that thing. 91.7 pass rush grade this past game.
Starting point is 01:12:54 We might have to talk about him next. Yeah, I wanted to give more a little love at the end because I knew we had a jam-packed quarterback carousel. If Miller Moss does any of that again, he's in the quarterback carousel combo again. Okay. Good for, good for him. Hey, it's good, it's good money if you can get it. It's good Miller-Moss money.
Starting point is 01:13:11 It's really good Miller-Moss money. I know there's not another Miller-Moss out there running some tech company. There might be. let's go to the tail of the tape there could be um let's see himathy McCarthy McCarthy on Twitter love that shouting out Amory Washington uh the defensive lineman from
Starting point is 01:13:31 Oregon I need to watch him to get him on the board I haven't watched him yet yeah he's another guy that I need to catch up on as well Ilemanor enthusiast is this guy's Twitter Twitter name good time to be one obviously great time to be one starting wide receiver top five wide
Starting point is 01:13:48 receiver in the 2025 NFL draft class. Don't you ever forget it. Oh, he's gonna... He says Rocco Beck, by the way. It's a little stock. Rocco Beck played very nice game of all. He has played very well. He is just completely in control Rocco Beck.
Starting point is 01:14:04 Oh, okay. Let's end the conversation with this one. Julius said Carson Beck looked more like his 2023 self. I thought Carson Beck looked good. That's a really good sign. But I also like don't want to get too ahead of ourselves. Like there were also, to me, he was the exact same like Georgia quarterback. The good and the bad was all still there for Carson Beck.
Starting point is 01:14:26 And it happened to be, in my opinion, a day where he had a little bit more good than he had bad. But I saw a little bit of both of those things from him in week one. So obviously nice for him to have more good than bad to start the season. But it's not like, oh, he's not Carson back. You know, we're not having him as like QB1 or anything yet. So yeah, that's what I thought of him. I rewatch the tape. We really need, and correct me if I'm wrong,
Starting point is 01:14:51 we really need a good NFL quarterback that has at least one arm sleeve tattoo. Yeah, 100%. I can't think of one. 100%. Am I missing and obvious? Well, it's going to be Mateer. It's going to be Mateer.
Starting point is 01:15:10 It's going to be Mateer. It is, yeah, Matier's got the best chance. By the way, I just watched, hold on, I have to look up his. name because i have to be able to look up the pronunciation to get this right give me a second it's wake forest redshirt senior right tackle okay the way you say his name is faile faamoa oh this is how you say his name he is from uh pago pago american samoa which is um that's offensive one you francis mawinoa was also from
Starting point is 01:15:48 American Samoa, so it's kind of crazy. No, they have they have an American football program now. Anyways, by the way, Lamar Jackson, the greatest quarterback of all time that is tatted up. Where did that come from? I was saying, I said we really need more like
Starting point is 01:16:07 quarterbacks to succeed that have full sleeves. You're saying, I didn't want to, oh, I didn't want to forget. When you said sleeve, I thought you meant like a shooter sleeve. You mean a tattoo sleeve. Yeah, I mean like, Like Carson Beck's got like the full double. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:16:21 Lamar's tatted up. But really, it's not a lot. A guy's. What we really need is Bo Nix. Yes, Bo Nix needs an arm sleeve. Oh, Nix needs a multi-layered tat sleeve that like tells his entire football journey on his arm. Like it's different, you know, the struggles at Auburn, the redemption at Oregon. And now like rising with the bronze.
Starting point is 01:16:48 you know, running across a field. You might have cooked. Let's see if he goes for it. Let's see if he goes for. Something tells me Bo Necks is not going to be into that. Bo, Bo hit us up. We would love for you guys to hit us up as well in the comments section. YouTube.com backslash at NFL Stock Exchange is the best way to get in the conversation on the show. We heard from some of you guys on Twitter, but we're going to be doing this every single Stockwatch. We want you guys to be a part of the show as well. So we're going to save some time at the end of every single Stockwatch episode to shout out some of the guys that you guys shouted out. It's a great way for you guys to get in the show. It's a great way for us to keep tabs on some of the players
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Starting point is 01:18:16 As part of the sleep. Because I believed in him. No, that has the, hold on, wait. That actually checks out. You actually checks out. He's going to have my full scouting report on the arm. You know how, like, you know how some people have, like, the Ten Commandments, like, right here on the shoulder? It's just your summer scouting.
Starting point is 01:18:35 He's going to get my scouting summary right there on the shoulder. Oh, man, I got to talk Michael Penningson to this. This would be a really good bit on the show. That is true. That could be. You know, we can work that out. We can see if that could happen. But we love and appreciate you guys.
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