NFL Stock Exchange: An NFL Draft Podcast - The Best And Worst Draft Pick From Every Year Since 2016

Episode Date: May 25, 2026

Trevor Sikkema and Connor Rogers pick the BEST and WORST pick from every NFL draft in the last 10 years! Subscribe to our YouTube channel and help us get to 75K! It helps us out a bunch. WE HAVE A DISCORD!!!!! JOIN HERE! https://discord.com/invite/PxSFVtWEwW https://discord.gg/PxSFVtWEwW?feature=description if the link doesn't work for you, just search 'NFLStockExchange' on discord and it'll pop up Follow us on X: https://x.com/NFLSEshow https://x.com/TampaBayTre https://x.com/ConnorJRogers We appreciate each and every one of you ADDICTS :) For business or other inquiries, reach us at [e-mail] Hosted by Simplecast, an AdsWizz company. See pcm.adswizz.com for information about our collection and use of personal data for advertising.

In the NFLSC Discord, you guys have created such a big community now to where we have the distinct honor of now having scammers trying to get into our NFLSY discord and message you guys. Last week, there was somebody who I'll give it to them. They're good at what they do. Well, I saw the way they message people and they absolutely sound like I am the police. How is the betting journey going? Are you kidding me? If somebody came up to me or texted me and said, hey, how's the betting journey going? I'd be like, do not talk to. me ever again. Holy shit. I would love some of your finest marijuana, please. I swear to God, I'm not a cop. What? How's the betting journey going? I have never once logged onto an app, put in a parlay, looked at my wife and said, today's going to be a journey. Can't wait to see where it leads. God. Welcome to the opening bell of the NFL stock exchange show. Trevor Sica

McConnell Rogers back with you guys for another offseason topic where we're turning back the clock a little bit year by year by year today on this show we are declaring individually i'll have my list and connor will have his the best and worst draft picks from each draft over the last 10 years fired up about this one it's going to be a lot of fun i'm very curious going through this exercise and doing the research just how many of these we're going to agree upon connor and i were talking a little bit before the show there's a couple that you said connor are layups here but i think there's a handful that'll also have a good amount of debate as well. So how are you doing, my friend?

Dude, I'm just laughing right out of the gate to see from Baller 5,700, looking extra wrigglish today, I see. Wait, how? I don't know. What's extra wriggler about me today? I'm not even wearing anything that's green. You have a hat on? You have a plain shirt on?

That's true. Okay, but chat is on your ass. For what? Hold on. Hold on. I'm wearing the hat because it's Memorial Day, folks. I'm wearing the USA hat because it's Memorial Day. We're coming to you guys live on a Memorial Day Monday, which, of course, shout out to everybody who's in the armed services, past, present or future.

We respect you. We appreciate you. We are grateful for you. Thank you so much. I wanted to make sure that we started out the show with that. But we did so in a way where I'm getting called out for. I'm just trying to support the people out here. I'm just saying random shit right away.

it right away. He said it right off the top. Who me? No, baller, 5,700. He's like, I'm just, he's just talking nonsense. Do you have any Memorial Day traditions? Not real. I mean, to be honest with you, I get a very, very solid lift in every single. It's a very big lifting holiday. Like every single, yeah, I just, I sort of like plan my workout week around it so that we start off strong.

And I feel like it's, I feel like it's always a good way. to start the week. I've developed one over the years. I rewatch Band of Brothers every single year now around this time, just naturally. It's not even like I'm thinking like, ah, it's Memorial Day is coming up. I got to, it's just like this time of year, it's time to rewatch Band of Brothers. And there's not a lot of shows or movies that are an annual watch for me, because that's a lot when you watch something once a year.

But at this point, annual rewatch. I know you probably haven't seen it. Banda Brothers. Jake Joan Hull is not in it, so actually maybe you have. Banda Brothers is the greatest mini-dacu series of all time. No question. Which is incredible when you think about now how old it is. Yeah.

And it's just aged like one. When did it come out? It's got to be like 25 years old, I think now. I was going to say, is it like 2005? I don't even know about that. Yeah. No, it's unbelievable. I've talked with my wife about who also, thankfully,

loves like the World War II, World War I, sort of like errant history stuff. And we have talked about starting it, but it's just, it's such a journey to start it. We actually never have. So I've seen it multiple times through, thank you very much. Just checking. My wife hasn't seen it yet.

All right. Well, Alyssa, we got to get on it. Yeah, yeah, got to happen. What is the god? damn hold up. There's so many, so many good historical aspects of it. What a cast. Unbelievable cast.

I mean, the fact that Spielberg and Tom Hanks, right, both of them. Yeah. I mean, it's just true, true special stuff. Yeah. No, it's true. My cousin, his old gamer tag used to be Buck Compton. Oh, from that one. I mean, that's a really good one.

That's an elite name just to be playing, you know, whatever it is. You get chainsawing years of war by Buckcompton. You're like, all right, actually that's, yeah, that's pretty sick. I love it. Somebody says, got to disagree. The Pacific clears. That's a hot tank. So I don't agree with that.

However, the opening music intro for the Pacific. S tier. S tier. When the trumpets come in, oh, it's unbelievable. It's unbelievable. I'd actually rank them. He was goosebumps. Start Bench Cut.

Band of Brothers is the easiest start of all time. I'd actually bench the newest one, Masters of the Air, which is only... Oh, so I haven't seen that one. Yeah, I feel like not a lot of people. That went like really under the radar when it came out two years ago. But it was also not HBO. They, I think HBO, I don't know if didn't believe in it or didn't want to do it, whatever. I believe it was Apple.

Either way, but still, I think it's Tom Hanks and Spielberg. again, I'm pretty sure. But it is kind of a trilogy. Masters of the Air would actually be the bench. Pacific would be the cut for me. If those that, if you like Band of Brothers, Masters of the Air was pretty well done. Jason's saying David Schwimmer's weaselness was perfect.

God. For Captain Soval, which is extremely true. So true. So true. Top five punchable face in that one. Good Lord. You just see him and you're like, Oh, dude, the line at, I don't even remember, this must have been episode nine at this point,

because it was at the very end, where at that point, major winners, spoiler alert, sorry, major winners, has to call him out, has to call him out and goes, Captain Sova, we salute the rank, not the man. And he just absolutely gets his ass with it. I think that's episode nine, but yeah, it's a historic burn. It really is. It really is. All right.

Let's take it into it. Let's get to it. Shout out to Memorial Day and everybody who's part of the armed services, of course. So what we're doing on today's show, best and worst draft picks that we have from every single year over the last 10 years. Now, we're not doing 2026 because you guys have heard us talk about 2026 so much over the last, you know, six to eight months. And we've kind of given our individual pick grades and team grades and all that kinds of stuff when the draft was over whatever it was like a month ago or at this point. So we're going 2025 to 2016. So we're going all the way back to 2016

and we're going to give out the best and worst picks. Connor, do you have any final thoughts here before we get it going? Yeah, so I think like when we get deeper into it, maybe 2022 and down or even 2023, it feels pretty concrete. With 2025, it's still so recent that I definitely went to, I think I went the most different pathway with this year. compared to the previous years because there's just so much time left for these picks to actually develop as the best picks.

All right, let's do it. The big reveal. I think best is first, if I remember what the chef said. Oh, ho, ho, wow, bear down. Good Lord. Peter is smiling somewhere where the chorus lighten us in. You, Kyle Manungai. I love you for this.

I love you so much for this. Never ever backed out, my friend. This is unbelievable. So for the audio only listeners, Connor picked Kyle Munungai, who was selected in the seventh round, picked 233, and I selected Colston Loveland,

the tight end to the Bears who was picked in round one, pick 10. So go ahead, my friend. This is your soapbox. Talk about Kyle Minungai. So I said it, this is the one that's going to be the most bizarre, because the reality is,

you know, if Jackson Dart plays like a franchise quarterback, he's probably the best pick in this draft considering where they got him. And yet he played, you know, well, his rookie season. I saw in the chat right away, Nickyman Worry, like I get it. I think you got a good argument there

for what he did for his Super Bowl defense, no doubt about that. But I went by just this one specifically value of what you go. got when you got it. And Manungai in the seventh round performing

arguably as well as any running back, as any skill player it felt like when he got his chance for an offense that overachieved last year. I mean, I know everybody was excited for Ben Johnson, but it all came to fruition really, really quickly.

Menongai, in my opinion, should take over this backfield this year. I like Swift. He's fine. But it just felt like they had more juice when they gave Kyle Manungai the ball in really, really big games. Which, to be honest with you, I mean, even when we went through scouting him, I know that you loved Kyle Menungai, but you and I talked about this during the year last year. He looked faster.

He did. Like, he looked like he has been in the lab with speed training. Maybe he lost a little bit of weight. Like, whatever it was, he had way more burst than what we saw at Rutgers. Maybe it was a mentality thing, too. Maybe he was really just looking to lower the shoulder for contact when he was at Rutgers. but he looked quicker. I mean, 4.6 yards per attempt average from him last year,

almost 800 yards rushing, 169 carries there for him. I mean, that is no way around it. That is a very, very successful seventh round pick for a rookie for sure. Yeah. For Colson Loveland, me with the best pick here, you go to week seven because he really didn't get a ton of playing time and a ton of targets before week seven. But if you go from week seven,

on the only tight end who had more receiving yards in Colson, Leveland was Trey McBride, and McBride was doing it on way more targets and way more receptions. So Loveland, for basically the second half of his rookie season, was one of the most productive and maybe even the most efficient tight end in the NFL in just the second half of his rookie season. I talked about this on last week's episode when we were kind of going through some of our old picks ranking every pick that we've had over the last three drafts. And like Colston Loveland's part of this was very interesting to me because I gave him,

I gave the Bears a little bit of credit for taking him at number 10, taking him over Tyler Warren, who was also good, want to be very clear, but taking him where they did. Like Loveland was sort of seen as like, ah, you know, mid first round, late first round type of, I mean, you take a guy top 10, you got conviction. And not only did they have conviction in the pick, they put him out there on the field, and he absolutely delivered very early. So I loved what ended up being the Coast of Lovin selection. I'm sure, like, at the time, I was like, whoa, that was early.

But, man, I thought it was a phenomenal return for a player that they really had to stand on the table for, I think, to justify picking him at number 10. Yeah, I like your thought process here. When you, Loveland is a true, and a guy fits into this, too, but Loveland, I think, especially the tape test. When you watch Loveland down the stretch, you're like, oh, God, is this guy going to be the best tight-ended football in a year or two? that's how it felt at times.

And there was a lot of good candidates for this exercise. I mean, getting away from the Bears guys, and we both think, you know, Luther Burden's going to be really good this upcoming year. But Tyler Warren, Tetaro McMillan,

Jackson Dart. We'll see what Tyler Shuck does this year. The chat had brought up Eman Worry. Yep. I've seen responses to mine right away about Kroski Merritt and Scatibu. I mean, I get it,

but that's more brand names to me than what Menangai did on the field. Like, Manungai, I mean, Scataboo got hurt, but that's part of it. I mean, cross-key merits numbers very similar to

Menong guys. I mean, he had just over 800 yards, but he had a couple more carries. Both of them had 4.6 yards per carry. So I think that Kroski Merritt's a great shout-out, but I think Kyle Monongai is as well. You mentioned Scadaboo. A couple of others that I'll throw out there too. I thought Andrew McCuba was awesome last year as a second round pick. Jonas Sanker, I thought was a great call. Phenomenal. Well, not phenomenal. But he was really great as a rookie. Craig Woodson, safety for the Patriots, was fantastic last season.

I mean, he was awesome. Who was the, oh, man, Jalen Hawkins. Him and Jalen Hawkins, I feel like we're one of the more underrated safety duos in the NFL. So a lot of those guys, big shoutouts. You mentioned Tyler Shuck and Eman Worry. I think we're the other two that I really would have brought up. But yeah, that's our list of some of the best. Who do we have is the worst here?

Worst pick from the truth. I think we're going to agree. Oh, no, okay. So look, the James Pierce Jr. pick, obviously, you know, we talked about this a little bit last week as well. He had a good rookie season on the field, but. Oh, without doubt. Very serious allegations and felony charges that he is going through right now. I don't know if he is back with the team, but I saw at the beginning of April when they were going through their whatever was mini camp. He was not with the team because of those legal issues. But I'm sure that obviously that goes into it for you. Shamar Stewart, it was a down year for a defensive line where he had every. opportunity to be able to come out and play right away. I think the holdout was something that was that obviously stunted the growth and the impact that he could have had at year one. Obviously, it's not over for him at all whatsoever. But that's why I ended up going with him because, you know, it's pick 17 for a team that desperately needed better defensive

line play, better pass rushing. He did not give it to them the way that they needed to for a 17th overall pick. Yeah, I mean, Chamar is definitely a worse player on tape right now. With Pierce, it's the fact that what they paid to go get him and that they can't rely on him now. Yeah. I mean, obviously he can play when he plays. And I already see people are just, you know, the charges are dropped. And this is like James Pierce had character problems coming out. And they already dealt with it right away after one year.

They paid an enormous price to go get him. And I don't know if they can count on him right now going forward. We'll see if it's wrong. And once again, this is the group that's most likely to change. Like, do I think Kyle Munangai will be the best pick of this draft in three years? No, it'll probably be one of the quarterbacks. Could James Pierce get his life back on track and be a double-digit sack player for many years to come?

Sure. But man, it was really expensive, and you're already kind of seeing why there were questions around this guy in terms of when you could take him. But in terms of, like, what we saw last year, I agree with you on Shamar. That was, they got him into camp late.

He didn't do anything. you know, they obviously picked them even higher. So I get you with that one for sure. We had a couple of extra shoutouts. Oh, B. Baller said Xavier Watts, the safety who went to the Atlanta Falcons. I agree. Xavier Watts had a fantastic season. I think that's not one for worse.

That would be one for best. Sorry, I want to need to make sure that I said that because he played very well. Yeah, they had moments out of the four defensive picks. For sure. When you look at Bowman had some moments. Obviously, Jalen Walker is a good player. And once again, Pierce can play when he's on the field. That's not the question.

Bowman Tour's Achilles, didn't he? Yeah. I'm pretty sure it was Achilles. Roodle. I know. He's so talented. Especially as a guy who could play in the slot, like I think that they were sort of getting him to play a little bit more.

Dust Wolf said, Trevor not saying Emeka is very surprising. I think that Emeka is, yeah, I mean, like one of the guys who had a really good rookie season, but those first five weeks were phenomenal for him. And then they were having to play him in positions that he was, is comfortable with Mike Evans getting hurt and Chris Godwin being in and out of the lineup. And like it was tough for him.

But I just, I think there were a couple of choices that would have been better for the best pick so far of 2025 than Igbuka. But I'm not trying to sit here and say that Hey, Bukka didn't have a great year. You guys know, uh, I would never say that about, uh, Tampa Bay Buccaneer legend, Emek, Egbuka. Or as Rob Grankowski would say, Amika Igbibu. Did you see that? Have you ever seen that clip? I've seen that.

But there's been a couple that have been really, a beef, boo. All right. Let's go to 2025 or 2024. The best pick for 2024, there's a lot of options, so we better not agree here. All right, good, good. Nice. My best and worst play the same position for this draft. Oh.

Yeah. Oh, I think I know who it's going to be. Yeah, I think you do too. So your best pick was Jerry. Jared Verse, who the Los Angeles Rams selected at number 19 in the first round. My best pick, I went with Cooper DeGine, the cornerback for the Philadelphia Eagles, who they got at pick 40 in the second round. I'll explain mine a little bit more in a second, but Connor, go ahead and talk about Jared Verse as your best pick from 2024. Yeah, you look at Vers.

He was taken after La Jalu, Latu, after Dallas Turner. And, you know, you get him at 19. He plays with power. he's a consistent, steady pass rusher already, just two years into his career. He has really, really helped along with some other guys, transform this defense, especially the aggressive nature that this front wants to play in.

Versus phenomenal. He's got heavy hands. He could challenge just about any offensive lineman by converting speed to power, and obviously that translates to the run game. Getting him at 19, when there's a very real world, he ends up a top five player out of a really, really good draft. It's just a great selection by the Rams.

You can get this level of pass rusher, a guy that in theory could be a top five pass rusher in the NFL very shortly with a 19th pick in the draft. That's just tremendous. The third guy taken out of his position group, that's just tremendous work by the Rams. Yeah, I mean, I had Jared Verse. We ranked every first round pick over the last three years on last week's episode of the show. And I had Jared Verse at three. So I totally understand this one here. Now, I had Drake May at number two.

So in theory, you know, like I thought about going Drake May here, right? Jake May, Jade and Daniels, like those guys are absolutely in this conversation. But we've talked about those guys so much plenty, especially over the last week with us doing the show picking first round picks last week. I wanted a shout out Cooper to Gene, who to me is helping change the narrative around versatile nickel corners and the value with them. I just think that the way he plays and the flexibility that he gives the Philadelphia Eagles defense. is so much phenomenal value that we're watching offenses really get creative with not just tight ends, but overall these like bigger slot receivers and really just like any slot option. When you get these guys in space and you give them their two-way goes, it's so difficult to have

enough defensive backs and really one specifically one defensive back that can handle all those responsibilities week in and week out. Cooper DeGine has the overall athleticism. He's got the size. He's got the strength. He's got the ball skills and he knows how to defend the run, as good as you would want from a full-time slot player. And I think he is showcasing what true value is

when you have a top-tier player who can play from the nickel spot the way that he can. I think getting that at 40 overall in the second round is an unbelievable steal because of how flexible it makes to Philadelphia Eagles defense. And this is also a top 10 player on my board. I think I had him eighth overall, ninth overall, something like that on my big board. and you get him at 40. I mean, it's just, there's no reason why this guy should not have been a first round pick.

So to get him at that plus value at number 40, that's why I went with DeGene. But there were a ton of players who were great options for the best pick of 2024. You obviously have verse. I mentioned Drake May. I mentioned Jaden Daniels. People were mad at me with my Caleb Williams ranking last week.

If you want to put Caleb Williams in this, even though he was the number one overall pick and he really didn't have to think about it, like, you can. Brock Bowers at 13. Kamari Laster in the second round. I mean, Camari Lassiter is turning out to be a top 10 corner in the NFL right now. We'll see if he could be a top five corner in the NFL. I don't know if I'm not there with him yet.

You're not there with him as good. You don't think he's a top 10 corner? No, I think that evaluating them all in a neutral field. Let's see. I think he's a good player and a good starter. I think the Texans defense probably elevates. like if you traded him to an average defense, I don't think he'd be a top 10 corner in the league.

I think he's a good player. I'm just not ready to go there. I think I can count 10 corners I would take over Kamari Lassinger. Okay, let's do this real quick. Because off the top of my head, I was like, yeah, I think he sneaks into the back in the top 10. But I actually got a list now in front of me. So Patcher Tartan, yes.

Easy. Tren McDuffie, Derek Stingley, Christian Gonzalez, Devin Witherspoon, sauce Gardner all no-brainers Quinean Mitchell easy

Denzel Ward and then you get into I'm at 8 and you get into like Jalen Johnson J.C. Horn A.J. Terrell Marlon Humphrey

Cooper DeGine obviously who I just talked about there I think he's borderline top 10 I think you can make the case I think you can make the case. I think you could make the case. I see that Jason in the chat said J.C. Horn. Totally agree. I love J.C. Horn, but I mean, I think Camari's a stud.

I think he's a good player. I just think on a neutral environment without that front, he's not a top 10 corner. But, hey, the fact that we're having the combo speaks to how good he's been. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Byron Murphy obviously was in this class as well. Speaking of the Texans, Caleb Bullock's been great. I mean, he landed in the perfect spot with that defense.

Big miss for me. Well, I mean, now he is definitely one where I say if he goes to a different spot. We're probably not talking about Caleb Bullock the same way. But hey, he gets to Domingo Ryans, he gets to the Texans,

and obviously he's turning into a great player for them in that system. Drew Phillips, AJ Barner, these are really good picks. Anybody else that I didn't mention who was... Actually, you know, it's so funny, when you get caught up in the where you have guys

I have to look where I had Bullock but I did forget he was still taken outside the top 75. Yeah he was like 92 or something. So even the NFL clearly had the same concerns as all of us he just thrived in a great environment and good for him and good for the Texans. Yeah where was he where did he get picked? He was

oh 78 78 I'll give you a sneaky one that we're not here yet but one more year of it it's going to be like oh yeah and you might have even said him when you're rattling off names, Marius Mims. Oh, yeah. Yeah.

I mean, we're one more good mimsier away from like, holy crap. He's one of the best picks of this show. I mean, I agree. I was, I came for him, I feel like pretty appropriately in last week's episode. Yes, you did. And, you know, there's a handful of guys who I would very clearly have above him for this specific exercise, but I think it's a great shout up because he really did start to turn it on last season.

And he is one of those players who like pre-draft, we talked about, oh, all the physical tools that you could possibly want from an offensive tackle. And now he's really starting to put it together. I saw Eli in the chat appropriately mentioned Evan Williams. Good. Evan Williams is great. I mean, a fourth round pick. Yeah, completely outplayed that value.

Really good shout. I know he's coming off a very productive year as well. Yeah, Eli said, this is a strong draft. Yeah, Edron Cooper also really great rookie season. Not, Eli, if I'm remembering last year, not as impactful his sophomore season, but he's still a really good football player. I'm not trying to take anything away from that one. That's a good shout out as well because he has played well.

Oh, and then last one. Bert says Patrick Paul. Patrick Paul obviously is not near the top of this list, but playing better and hand up. Patrick Paul is solid. Better than I thought he would be. And I think that Patrick Paul has done a great job retooling everything about how he plays at a massive size that he is.

When I watch Patrick Paul at Houston, I felt like he was carrying unnecessary weight. I felt like his shoulders were always very hunched, and he had sort of this rounded upper back type of a stance to him. It really did. It forced him sort of like on his toes and off balance way too much. It didn't let him get power from his lower half when he was punching, whether it was one-handed punch or two-handed punches.

I felt as though that was something that had to be fixed or he was going to get washed out of the league quick. I think he is absolutely fixed. It looks like he's lost a little bit of weight. his posture is so much better. His lower back is rounded instead of his upper back. You can tell that he's able to squat a little bit further and get that power from his legs. So Patrick Paul is one of those players who you watch pre-draft and I had those types of concerns over him, but he's really been able to change and improve those things to be a much more functional athlete at the offensive tackle spot.

He's getting better for sure. It's probably the smartest player or in the top three of guys I've interviewed at the Combine. is incredibly incredible personality. I'm not surprised to see that he's been able to kind of elevate his game as a pro with the way he works and carries himself. All right. Worst pick of 2024? We might agree on this.

Wow, we do not agree on this. Darius Robinson was, you have Darius Robinson and I have Michael Penix. Darius Robinson isn't even the worst quarterback taken in the top 15 of this draft. Yeah, but he's picked earlier for a team that already had, who already paid $100 million to a quarter. quarterback and Pennix was old. Penix was old. He was injured. Now he's injured again and now he's older. The process, not great. Definitely agree with that. I cannot think he's a worse pick than what we've seen from J.J. McCarthy. McCarthy's not been good. McCarthy was the reason the Vikings

didn't make the playoffs last year, single-handedly. Very true. But I'll go quick on Darius Robinson because I don't think I'm saying anything groundbreaking here. He's a J.J. Dodd. He really, wow. And I see you mentioned to Jalen Polk there, a massive miss for me. That is not. Jalen Polk was another one that I thought of here. Injured and has not, well, he was hurt all last year. So the Saints after they traded for him just kind of stashed him.

Yeah, I mean, he's not even on the team that drafted him anymore. No, he got traded. It's tough. Very tough. Darius Robinson, first round pick. Arizona's trying to turn this thing around on defense. They've just gotten nothing from him. I mean, a 2.7 pass rush win rate last year is unfathomable.

And a 260 pass rush snaps. I mean, when you think about that, that means that's a jarring amount of snaps. He just, he cannot factor as a pass rusher at all. But the problem is too, he hasn't even been good against the run, which is, you know, partially there's some unit issues here as a whole. But you're looking at him like, okay, if he's, he's going to take a while to grow as a pass rusher because he's kind of this tweener end. He's like, he's kind of an in-between guy, interior and edge rusher.

But he hasn't been good against the run. So, man, that's, that is such a brutal miss if he can't become an mediocre starter this year for Arizona. The only, the only reason why, and I don't, I don't disagree with anything that you're saying there. The only reason why I wasn't harsher on this for this to like potentially be my selection. here is he's picked 27th. And there are some, obviously, like, good players who were picked after him.

But specifically along the defensive line, I mean, there's not another defensive lineman picked until the second round. Like, it's Marshawn Neeland. It's Chris Braswell. Like, they kind of just, like, picked the last one there. Now, they could have picked an interior defensive lineman. Rukaroro went next at 35. Johnny Newton went at 36 and you and I love Johnny Newton

but he hasn't panned out the way that we thought he was going to. I think he had moments last year though on a bad defense. When he's been healthy, when he's been healthy. I'm not ready to give up on him, no question. I thought I saw it start to turn the corner a little bit with Newton last year. We'll see. Darius Robinson definitely has not played the way that the Cardinals have needed him to play for sure.

There's just not a lot of players who are picked after him where I go, okay, you really like you could have had this player, right? Braden Fisk? Well, Brayden Fisk, yeah. They're the same size. Is a player who I liked quite a bit. I'd Braden Fisk. I'll check my big board here in a second.

So I see some people saying like J.J. McCarthy is worse than Michael Penix for sure. I agree with you that J.J. McCarthy is worse than Michael Penix. I'm saying this is the worst pick of 2024 because of the Falcon situation. They just gave Kirk Cousins over $100 million. Yeah. They picked an older injury.

riddled quarterback who then got injured for them, completely derailed whatever was supposed to be the quarterback planned for them, and Pennix was picked earlier than Michael Penn, than JJ McCarthy was. So that's how I get to Pennix as my pick over McCarthy. I don't think that McCarthy's better than Pennix. I think Pennicks is better than McCarthy, but that's how I'm going about this exercise here. Yeah, that's definitely a part of these equations. These aren't as simple as like this guy's bad. the worst pick this guy like you know i've already talked about trade value and overall value and you're doing that with pennics right there that you know the process was was really ugly from atlanta uh locked in in the chat says mccarthy cost him darnold so it's the worst pick you

factor that in that's oh god that's that's kind of facts that's that one's kind of facts you might you might have me on that one you might have me on that's that is definitely tough maybe it is nine. Maybe it is nine. Yeah, so people are saying like Keon Coleman, Terran Arnold. There's going to be like 70 names that are in contention for all of these. The Chilin Polk one's tough, man.

That one was tough. Polk's a bet. There's a really brutal misses in this draft already. I mean, the Titans already traded to Vantre's sweat. He was taken right after Polk. Well, Kane in the chat saying, Roman Wilson. Whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa. Yeah, he's done nothing on a team that needs.

Hold on, hold on, hold on, hold on, hold on. We still believe. We still believe. Yeah, give me the solo shot. That's fine. We still believe. And if it doesn't work this year for the Steelers, trade him to a team that'll love and appreciate what he can actually bring to the program. That's my message.

Yeah. I saw a lot of this in the chat too, and I agree. People are saying, we. We. Terry on Arnold's. he's got a chance to be worse than all those guys he doesn't figure it out. He's tough.

He's been hurt too. Top 25 pick. Yeah, he's been hurt. So that's been tough for him. There's a lot of bad things. Dallas Turner's got to show up this year. Yeah, I think it's going the right way. I do.

I think that's finally going in the right direction. Let's hope. But, man, they better be right. Right, right. You trade a lot to go get him. Yeah, yeah, yeah. And you took them over verse. All right, 2023.

Yes. What have we got? I mean, I think best is the easiest one ever. Oh, yeah, Puginikuua. Yeah. I thought this was the easiest one on the whole exercise. And this, and you know, there are really, really good players in this draft, right? Will Anderson's in this draft.

Will Anderson was just number one overall for both of us on last week's exercise where we were ranking all the first round picks over the last three years. Jackson Smith and Jigba. You got offensive player of the year. or defensive player of the year. If you look at the trophy when he got the trophy. What a mess. Incredible two-way player. I mean, he's what.

I mean, Travis Hunter to be. To win offensive and defensive player of the year in the same year. I mean, that's just, that's a testament to just true scouting and how good the Seattle Cocks are. I mean, you pick him at 20. We've talked about Christian Gonzalez,

getting him at 17. Byron Young in the third round, low-key, great pick. Maybe. The Rams, Byron Young, yes. Yeah, correct. Correct. Not the Alabama, Byron Young.

Although shout out, also an NFL player. Got to the NFL, got to the pro level, achieved his dream, took care of his family, did what he needed to do. Get Brian Branch in the second round, incredible pick. Never should have happened. Tucker Kraft in the third round. Tucker Kraft was on his way to look at like a top three tight end before we got hurt last year. But all that to say, it's Puka Naku in the fifth round.

Pick 177. Has to be. You know what's crazy is Puka could not play every. again and he probably still holds this mantle. For what they got out of a fifth round pick already? That's a bold statement. He could never play again. He's been one of the best receivers in the NFL for three years for a fifth round pick.

Let's see. Yeah. He went 1,400 yards his rookie season. No, basically 1,500 yards. Basically 1,500. He was 14 shy of 1,500. He went 990 the second year, but he only played in 11 games. Yep.

And then last year, last year, last year he averaged 107 yards per game. And he's one of the better run blocking receivers in the sport. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. It's nuts. No, he has been unbelievable. There's no doubt about it.

He's been crazy. So I knew I knew we'd agree on that one. I am fascinated to see if we. agree on worst uh hold on hold on hold on hold on hold on wait wait wait wait wait wait let me look at the options for worst there's like that's a nice batch there's like four players that you could choose from i think i know what you're going with because it's your favorite to go with oh that means that you pick somebody different i mean i just have the simplest take of why this player is the worst pick in this draft all right who do we got

Because there's times where hindsight's dangerous. This is not. The commanders need to... Hold on. Wait a second. You picked the manual Forbes. Great player for the Rams. Great player. Lockdown.

You love a corner. Starting outside corner for the second best team in the NFL. My God. Great corner for the Rams. So good that they went out and just got as many new corners as possible. Anyways. The process here was they needed a corner. Okay.

A great one. A top 10 player is sitting right there. Maybe the best. And Christian Gonzalez. Maybe the best one. It's an interesting combo. And they take Emmanuel Forbes instead of Christian Gonzalez. It's just, it's a terrible pick.

So good. They trade it from McDuffie. Yeah. Yeah. No, I won't fight you too much on this. Emmanuel Forbes was absolutely in the conversation for me. I hate that it feels like he's a punching bag. He's still in the NFL, obviously.

But to get picked one spot ahead of Christian Gonzalez, I do feel for Emmanuel Forbes because that's not his fault, right? He wasn't great when he was in Washington. That part is more on him. But having to have people constantly, you know, having to have two jabronies on some YouTube show keep bringing up the fact that he was pick gets old. One selection in front of Christian Gonzalez.

It's tough. But for this exercise, you are correct. You have to take that into account. That's what I did with Michael Pennix when we did 2024. My selection is Tyree Wilson. I mean, yeah, this is your go-to. I didn't think Tyree Wilson was anything close to a first-round player. I don't think his tape showed that.

I don't think his stats showed that. I don't think his production showed that. He was big. And they picked him sixth overall because... Seventh. It took him seventh. Oh, he was seven. Point stands, though.

Okay, yeah. I just want to make sure we correct that. That's my bad. Sorry, Shab. All good. That's on me. That's on me. You take him seventh overall.

You take him in the top ten. And he's done nothing for you to the point where they, I mean, they trade him to the New Orleans Saints for nothing for nothing. For nothing. So, yeah, that to me is the, the lack of any sort of return on investment that they got for Tyree Wilson. And he's no longer on the team now. that that had to be my pick there. All right, let's go to 2022. I mean, I think this is another consensus best pick.

Let's see. You got a franchise quarterback with the Mr. Irrelevant pick. Yeah, you're right. This is Brock Purdy. Seventh round, 262. Sometimes, Connor. I still can't believe it, man. It just makes you wonder what's the point of all this.

Am I wrong? I wish you were less wrong. I'm not going to call you right, but I wish you were less wrong. A true, what's the meaning of life scenario? I mean, is this the latest? You know what? I looked this up to because this, this wasn't just, you know, like pick 256 or whatever. This was 262.

Was this the latest pick in the seven round era? for comp picks. Oh, great question. Because you don't get many two-60s picks. There's not many drafts. I'll look that up for you while you're chatting away about Mr. Brock Tover.

Yeah, I mean, he's all due respect to Brock Birdie, he's been incredible. Now, I know the easy thing to do, and I know this is the easy thing to do, because I've done this before myself, is, okay, he laid it with Kyle Shanahan. There's so many quarterbacks

that could be successful in a Kyle Shanahan offense, But the fact of the matter is, is that Brock Purdy wasn't just kind of successful with Kyle Shanahan for a short period of time. He has been very successful with Kyle Shanahan for years and years and years when he has been healthy. And I really thought that when Brock Purdy was playing well for the Niners, that there would come a time where teams would get enough film on Brock Purdy where they would go, okay, below average NFL arm talent, yet he tries to be a gunslinger. and really push the ball deep downfield. Like there's just going to come a time

where he's going to start to really pay for these deep passes. And yeah, like some moments have looked better than others, but for the most part, like Connor said, you have a quarterback that you can completely believe in every single Sunday to win you games, double-digit games if he is healthy for a full season, potential deep playoff runs. I mean, it's all on the table with a player that you got

with the very last selection in 2022. So, yeah. So the last time before this draft that there was a 262nd pick in a draft was 2003. So yeah, man. That was Ryan Hoag from the Raiders, wide receiver out of a place called Gustavus Adolphus. I don't know. Shout out to those guys. Yeah, Shada.

I don't think he's as good as Purdy. But yeah, man, this is one of the true anomaly. outliers in recent NFL draft history. And good for Brock, good for the Niners. Yep, agreed. Agreed. The worst pick here, who's it going to be? I think there's two options. Okay. I was going to say, I actually think there's some discourse here where it's not as

cut and dried as obviously the best pick. But I went with what the chat has been talking about for a long time. So did I. Okay. Because there with Evan Neal is a nasty trickle effect. To go ahead, talk about it. Evan Neal, the offense attack. for the New York Giants pick number seven overall,

still on the New York Giants, although on the vet minimum now. But yeah, crazy that he's back. Yeah, that's a whole other combo. It just feels like when the Giants missed on Evan Neal, it kind of had this nasty trickle effect on their organization,

which isn't fair to do to one player. But the offensive line was bad for a while, and that affected so many different. areas of the team, not only that they were looking for Evan Neal to pick up his play, but to obviously improve. You have Sequan Barkley leaving. You have the Daniel Jones contract being a disaster. And Jones, although he's been hurt, looked a lot better with the Colts, which kind of tells you, while Jones is far from perfect, the environment with the Giants has brought down other players and not getting a franchise offensive lineman, even if he had to settle into

guard eventually and he hasn't been able to do that. And Evan Neal has led to them kind of kind of chasing their tails for a while. I think they've finally stabilized the Giants. I think they hope, but this kind of had them treading, not even treading water, just drifting away in the sea for years. And a lot of it started with this pick, unfortunately.

Yeah, the tough part with Neil is that, you know, even though he was a starter as a rookie and early on, like he just, he has not been good for them, whether it's been an offensive tackle or like you mentioned, him moving into offensive guard, he has not been reliable for them at all, which, man, I mean, when you watch him at Alabama, I mean, it's just a crazy athlete for a guy his size. I mean, I can understand the league wanting to bet on this player.

He was decently high on my overall rankings because I just felt, man, this guy's got so great of physical gifts. He's going to be a player who, even if he's not an offensive tackle, you feel like you got a great guard and they didn't even get a great guard out of it. Nope. They've got somebody who is barely, I think. think the only reason why he's back with the Giants because they had no other options, and they just kind of wanted to go with familiarity there.

And an issue with this pick is that he gets pick seventh overall. Charles Cross goes two picks later. Charles Cross is great for the Seahawks. That's the issue with the pick, for sure. And I had Charles Cross my OT1 in that draft, so I would have taken Charles Cross there. But, I mean, I'm not trying to be totally, you know, positively revisionist on me. Like, I had Evan Neal pretty high. And so, like, I understood it.

It's just, man, it's just that did not work out for it. And it also sucks that you drafted Evan Neal. And the players who are after, I mean, you've got Drake London, Charles Cross, Garrett Wilson, Chris Olive, Jordan Davis, Kyle Hamilton. Like, you got, I mean, Trent McDuffie. A lot of hits. Tren McDuffies a little bit later. Like, you got good players who were picked just after this selection with Evan Neal. So that certainly, uh, that makes it worse.

that makes it worse. Yeah, it's a tough one. I actually, he's one of the rare guys that I went back and watched. I read my notes on him like three years after he was, you know, clearly a bust. Read my notes on him and went back and watched a little of him to kind of see what I missed with him. Yeah. And I don't do enough of that, but he was a guy where I was like, what happened? And I didn't emphasize enough in my notes how much he was on the ground in college with his lack of balance.

It's important. And now it's something where I, it's totally changed how I look at offensive linemen. The guys that are just constantly on the ground, even though no matter how good they are in college, it's a tough way to live in the NFL. And I think Neil is an example of that. Man, I just looked up the Giants depth chart in the month of April before this draft because of all those receivers that I rattled off that they could have potentially gone with.

Their wide receiver room at the time was Cadarius Tony, Kenny Goliday and Sterling Shepard. That's tough. Not great. I mean, a year later, Kenny Goladay is gone, Cadarius Tony is gone, and Sterling Shepard is like wide receiver five for them.

Cool. Yeah, it's tough. That's tough. That is tough. By the way, some other shout-offs that we had for the best pick in 2022. Aiden Hutchison, obviously, getting picked number two overall. Kyle Hamilton, getting picked 14th.

Defensive player of the year type of player, you get a 14, not bad. And then Trey McBride in the second round. Trem of Pride in the second round. Pretty nuts. All right. 2021. 2021. That's good.

Best pick? Probably the most. Ooh, yeah. Wide open, best pick. I wrote down like six different names that were all in content. I felt like. At the end of the day, ironically, I went with

Micah Parsons. Oh, okay. All right. Because even though in Amonra was the second name I wrote down, Trev, without a doubt. Even though Michael was great as a cowboy, and they got a good return for him

even though they screwed up the longevity of his career as a Dallas cowboy. They were able to get a ton of capital and start to remake their defense. So Michael Parsons, when you think of how good he is, the 12th overall selection, I mean, there are many moments where you remember he's, there are times where he's the best defensive player in the NFL.

No, I agree. And he wasn't a top 10 pick. Yeah. So, I mean, look, the reason why Parsons wasn't a top 10 pick, it's twofold, right? It was the off-ball, on-ball linebacker sort of debate with him. And then there was the hazing allegations

that were sort of come, coming out of Penn State that he was involved in. So, you know, the character concerns part of it pushes him a little bit. But, yeah, I mean, like he was in this conversation, especially with the value of getting him at number 11. I mean, they're just straight up good players, right? I mean, you're getting Jumar Chase at 5. And it's like, all right, you're getting him at 5.

But like, it's still Jamar freaking Chase, right? Pena Sewell, you're getting at 7. Creed Humphrey, you're getting in the second round. Quinn Miners, you're getting in the 3rd. Talanova, Fonga, you're getting in the 5th. Niko Collins in the 3rd. Dude, Nico Collins in the third. Trey Smith, you got in the sixth round.

Trey Smith. I almost picked Trey Smith. Is the highest paid guard? He definitely set the market when he got paid. Yeah, yeah, he did. That market just explodes every year. Yeah, yeah. But...

Sixth round. But I went with Amon Rost, St. Brown. Because you have steadily one of a, like, a top five producing wide receiver every single year over the last four years. and you get this, you got that player at 112. Yeah. The guys in contention for me with Micah were a Monro, St. Brown, Trey Smith, and Nico Collins. And you rattled off a ton more.

Yeah. This was a great draft for having an argument for different guys as the best pick. Now, I think the same could be said, because I wrote down, I think, eight names for the worst pick. But you know I was going with Zach Wilson. You went with, oh, so I didn't go with Zach Wilson. But that's the problem is Trey Lance has just as good of an argument. I think, so I don't know how much you factor this into it

because I'm sure you wanted to go wax poetic about Zach Wilson. This is the trade? My God, it's the trade. So my counter was that they miraculously recovered. Just because they have pout shat-hant. And the Jets never did. This kept the Jets spiraling forever. You know how they recovered?

by picking a franchise quarterback at 2.62. But they did, damn it. They did. And nobody talks about you. You got credit for that. You got credit for that on the last slide. You don't get credit for that on this slide. It's about how you get up. And the Niners got off the mat. The Jets did not get off the mat. The Jets fell into the Iwaska trap and that I thought would work. and now we're marching for arch

like it just never ends it never ends it just never ends it just never ends Zach Wilson as I see from Raptor Jets obliterated a half decade of the franchise single-handed

No he did he did there's there there is no doubt that the earthquake tsunami wave from Zach Wilson was bigger than what happened

with the Trey Lance Pick which is We're still rebuilding houses. Which is unbelievable that that's the case. The Jets still can't recover the Zach Wilson pick, which they did not trade up for, right? They were picking number two overall. They just stunk.

They just stunk for the love of the game, full integrity, got the number two overall pick. They're still reeling from missing that. And the Niners who traded three first round picks for Trey Lance. have seemingly recovered like it never even happened. It's amazing.

That's amazing. Nuts. Now, boy, was this draft like the apocalypse of bust. Who else you got on here? Oh my goodness.

So Zach Wilson, Trey Lance. Alex Leatherwood? Yeah, bad. You don't make the Alex Otherwood pick worse. I'd actually love to know because there's so many.

Christian Darrisaw being the next offensive tackle. Oh, God, that's a gut punch. Because he's so good. And he was better as a prospect. Oh, yeah. Yes, yes. Yes. But it keeps going.

Just in this round. Jamon Davis? Oh, bad. Cadarius Tony? Whoa, whoa, whoa. Super Bowl champion. That people do forget that. Caleb Farley.

Oh, dude, I loved Caleb Farley. so much when he was healthy. Just hurt. Dude, he was so good at Virginia Tech. He was the dream cover three corner. Like to me, like coming off of the cover three era, getting the last couple of years of that cover three era, man, he was,

um, Robert Sala could have turned that man into a pro bowler if his back would have held up. Peyton Turner. Bad. I mean, there's some, real stinkers in this draft. Yeah, what a tough draft.

Inserted around all of the greatness. This really was an insane draft. Yeah. It's a superstar draft. Crazy draft. So definitely one of the more wild drafts of our lifetimes. Wow. Wow.

Yeah. All right, 2020. What do you got to 2020? This is actually the one I think I struggled with the most. Let me see. Who did I have it? Because it's between, it was between two players. There's, I think, five.

Okay. That are in the conversation here for 2020. I narrowed it down to two. You want me to list the five before we reveal it? Yeah, I want to know the five before we reveal it. Here's the five that I was debating between here in 2020. Tristan Worf's, obviously, getting him, what was it, O.T. four. Four.

I'll never forget it. Joe Douglas just had to run in the Mackay Beckton pick when Tristan Worst was there. Idiotic at the time. Idiotic today. Jalen Hurts in second round. I'm just saying. I'm just saying contention.

That's one of the two for me. Okay. All right. All right. Jalen hurts. I know. It's sad that we have to do the hole because of where that's gone,

but the Eagles have won a Super Bowl with Jalen Hertz. And they almost won one. And they almost won another one. That's probably the best he's ever played is the one they lost. I know. So anyway. Again, not just saying this because I'm the regular.

Antoinefield Jr. in the second round. Great pick. Great pick. Justin Jefferson at 22? That's the other one for me. Jordan Love at 26, though. It's pretty good. That's pretty good.

All right. Who'd you go with? I went with Hertz, and I know everyone's going to hate it. Oh, yeah. Hell yeah. I'm just going to get out of the screen real quick for the clip. Jefferson was the other one. I'm going to get out.

I'm going to get off the screen here. No, matter what? I could leave too. I'm not buckled into this chair. And I'm not coming back. Fraternity leave starts now. Yeah, even if the kids here or not. Guess what, partner? You're arriving today. Oh, man. All right, go ahead. The Eagles won a Super Bowl with Jalen Hertz, and they took him towards the end of the second round. No, I'm totally with him. And he's not this passenger in those years.

I know it's changed. And Hertz looks bad right now. There's no way around it. We talk about it all the time. They won a Super Bowl with this guy, and he was a second round quarterback. Do people realize how much of an anomaly that is? Look, I'm trolling you.

Like, he was absolutely in this conversation for me, and he should be. You get him at 53 overall, and he becomes a quarterback that gives you the ability, to win, not just one, but almost, almost two Super Bowls against Mahomes. Right. That means, that means something. That absolutely means something.

I went with Justin. I went with Justin Jefferson. I don't blame you at all. Yeah. That's like the easy, no one can argue back against that of, he's amazing. It's one of the best receivers of our generation. Right. He's, he has been unbelievable.

He's like one of those players, like what you talked about with Pug and Koo, obviously it's different because they got the coup in the fifth round versus Jefferson in the first round. But like, if Jefferson, like, now. never played another down to football. We'd all remember Justin Jefferson is like one of the best wide receivers of this era, you know, and I don't think that we'd think twice about it. The, what makes this pick even better is you, they traded Stefan Diggs to get this pick.

And like Stefan Diggs was a disgruntled player. Like Stefan Diggs wanted out and they were able to get a first round pick because Diggs was one of the best wide receivers in the NFL at the time. And you immediately replace him with Justin Jefferson. and you don't miss beat. And in fact, you just got the younger, more longevityed version of what you had currently had with Stefan Diggs on that team. Oh, you could say he's better.

He's better. It's better player than Spon Diggs. Right. Well, I mean, Stefan, I do, I think that that's the case. But Stefan with the Viking is like, was awesome. Like, he was one of the best wide receivers in the NFL. But Justin Jefferson, yeah, I think is even, even, it's better than Stefan Diggs peak. But it's not like it's, you know, not even close.

I think it's a good debate. but all that to say, you traded him, which you, they were probably like, guys, we wish we weren't in this situation here, and you end up getting Justin Jefferson out of it. And you get him one pick after Jalen Rager. Right? Yes. That was a Jalen? No. Am I, no.

I think you're right. No. Yes. Regger was taken 21st, Jefferson was 22nd. Yeah, yeah, yeah. See, I know all. You do. Yeah, what else do I have here on this one? Yeah, Jordan loves the other one that I really thought about here because I think Jordan Love at his best is a quarterback who can win you a Super Bowl. And I think for the most part, to be honest with you,

like I used to sort of, I used to think that Jordan Love was a lot more just like this hot and cold. You know, like sure, his best is great, but his bad stuff is really bad. But this past year and how he's played as of late, like I just think that more often than not. He is a really, really good quarterback who can go toe to toe with some of the best in the league. You got him at Pick 26, which gives you great value. And you could look at it one of two ways. You could look at it as, hey, you picked him in 2020 when Aaron Rogers was coming off of that, no, because Air Rogers won MVP in 2020 and then 2021, I think. Yep. So you're picking him right before the Aaron Rogers MVP year. So ideally it's like, all right, well, you know, we believe

and Rogers like that, we could have gone with another player who maybe would have been able to help us during those MVP years. But obviously, you could also look back on this pick and say, hey, we made the investment in a player that we really loved who has now turned into a top 10 type of a quarterback in the NFL. So I think that there's two sides of the coin. I think my two finalists also would have been Justin Jefferson and Jalen Hertz. And then Jordan Love would have been right there at third. So that's what I got. I got a special for worst. Oh, yeah, yeah.

who's the worst? I went with a duo, and I can do this because they were picked by the same team. Is that not arguably the first, the worst first round duo ever selected in NFL draft? Yeah, to one of them. Because it's Henry Ruggs and Damon Arnett, by the way, for audio.

Yeah, sorry, audio people. The bottom line is, putting aside the awful tragedy of the incident Ruggs was in and everything with that. They took rugs over, okay, Judy's not a great receiver, but he's a way better player, obviously career-wise.

CD Lamb and Justin Jefferson. The CD-Lam and Justin Jefferson ones are, yeah, that's tough. Damon Arnett was an egregious top 20 pick. Egregious. Yeah. It's wild that somebody would view him as a top 20 pick. Forget the laundry list of unfortunate off-fews. incidents he had after that, just as a player.

He was a slower corner that wasn't a first-round corner prospect. No, I agree. I agree with you. I thought that was a wild. That was a wild pick. But yours puts up a good fight. I think Isaiah Wilson, the offensive tackle for the Tennessee Titans. Now, the only saving grace here that I'll really give this selection is the fact that

like this happened during COVID. And so the whole process was kind of wonky, right? Like, yeah. They couldn't really do any sort of visits. Like, COVID, if I remember correctly, wasn't it right after the combine? A lot of FaceTiming and Zooms. Yeah, it was right after the combine.

Yeah, never forget coming home from the combine that year. It's like when the world shut down. Yeah. So, I mean, the whole process was not great. But this... Character misses. There's millions of character misses. This is what happened with Isaiah Wilson.

Okay. He gets drafted 29th overall. He's, he immediately holds out before training camp for more pay. Now, the holdout didn't last very long, but that happened. After that, he was arrested for trespassing. Then he was arrested again for DUI. He played four total snaps his rookie season. He was suspended by the team for violation of team rules towards the end of the year.

he then had an incident where he was fleeing from the police in a car chase. He then tweeted in January that he would never play for the Tennessee Titans again. And then in February, not even a year on the team, he was traded for a seventh round pick. You swapped the first round pick for a seventh round pick, and he was out of the league in January of 2022. It was the last time that he was in the NFL. He played four snaps, four snaps in his NFL career.

And he drafted that guy at 29 overall. That's the worst pick. That's fair. That's hard to do. They force you on the field when you're a first round pick, whether you're awful or not. For four snaps. Yeah, they did.

That's a special one. Yeah. That's a special one. Other bad picks in this draft. CJ Henderson, pick 10th overall, played 10 games before he was traded. Oh, man. Isaiah Simmons, you picked him eight overall, had no idea what to do with him.

C.J. Henderson is such a sneaky one. Yeah. Did it great. People forget. Ninth overall, yeah. Oh, he's nine. Uh, yeah, man, I saw this one earlier in the chat. Actually, no, they might have had the class wrong.

We'll save this one. Oh, okay. Yeah, well, so they had the wrong class. Jeff Akuta was picked fourth. And I feel, or Jeff Akuta was picked third, sorry. I feel bad for Jeff Akuta because he, yeah, he's had injuries that have really derailed him. He was a, he was a good prospect, though. And like you said, Trevor, he got hurt.

And at least Jeff Akuta had moments where you're like, okay, this guy's an NFL caliber player before you got hurt. Yeah. These guys were just, it's like, what's going on here? Jadrick Willis and Mackay Beckton got picked ahead of Tristan Worf's.

And then Rager got picked ahead of Justin Jefferson. Yeah, some real rough ones in this. Somebody said Tua. I mean, yeah, like, Tua got picked ahead of Justin Herbert. Objectively not ideal.

Right. Objectively, if we had a redo card, you'd probably put that one. down. If you had a time machine, you'd probably want to go back just moments before you turn that card in. Yeah.

But I don't think it's as bad as some of the picks that we just said here. Yep. All right. 2019. 2019. We're marching on. Oh, yeah. Before we do the best and worst, the chef just got in my ear to remind all the good

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this. All right. Best and worst picks of the 2019 NFL draft. Best pick. The most insane year for me, because I not only have the best and worst are from the same team, but they play the same position. position. Just fly through him.

Just fly through him, Tyler. Max Crosby is the best pick in this draft. Without question. Round 4106. Without question. His teammate in the same draft class is Cleland Farrell, the fourth overall pick in the draft. Do you remember what happened with this draft? In what context?

This was Mayok's first draft. And it was him and Gruden. Yes. And do you remember the week before the draft? they told all their scouts in front office people to go home. Don't come back to the facility. It's me. It was Mayak and Gruden for the last week leading up to the draft.

And one, one personnel executive. It was one personnel executive. Yeah. Yeah, it's a story for another day. But it was just, I think, three, maybe four people and they locked everyone else out. Yep. Yep. And they did so.

because they did not want the best kept secret of Cleland Farrell at four overall to get out. I mean, if he, I mean, if, if that secret gets out that the Raiders would have, you know, thought that he would go number four overall. The Niners would have, I mean, the Niners would have no choice but to take him over Nick Bosa. Over Nick Bosa and the Jets pass on Quinn and Williams. Wild, man. Wild.

Well, very wild. What truly hurts, and sorry Raiders fans, this hasn't been a kind show to you, although Max Crosby is awesome. Yeah, what are you talking about? They got the best pick. Is that imagine if they took Crosby, but imagine instead of Cleveland Farrell at 4, they took one of the standout defensive linemen that went not very long after him in Josh Heinz Allen,

Ed Oliver, Rishon, Gary, Dexter Lawrence, or Jeffrey Simmons to play with Max Crosby. You didn't even mention Brian Burns. Didn't even mention Brian Burns. Oh, my God. Brian Burns taking 16th overall. Montes Sweat was also in this draft. He went 26th. Just spin the dial on anyone else.

Oh, yeah. That hurts. No, it hurts. It hurts. That's tough. That's really tough. That was really tough. You know, you know, it was also tough.

Again, I'm not just trying to go after the Raiders here, but they took John Abraham at 27. Well, that, you could argue somehow that pick was actually worse than Cleland Farrow. Yeah, yeah. It's tough. That's kind of a sneaky spot of really bad picks, man. The 2019 draft was basically just the Las Vegas Raiders. Or is Leocleyn Raiders at the time, right?

Because they, no, did they move to? They were still. Oakland, I thought. Seven years ago now. Yeah, yeah, they were Oakland. This was basically just the Oakland Raiders. How do the Oakland Raiders make headlines in the best and worst ways possible? That was the 2019 NFL draft.

Man, it could have been amazing with someone different at four with Max. That's the crazy part. The player I was thinking of last time for worst pick, but he was in this class was DeAndre Baker for the Giants at 30. He was tough. Yeah. Brutal. Yeah.

Brutal. I mean, Devin White at 5 was tough for Tampa. Which is crazy because it felt like Devin White was the next big thing after what is second year? No, it was it his second year? It might have been his second year. He had nine sacks for some reason in 2020. Yeah, but it's because he was in, it's because he was in Bulls defense. Second team all pro.

So 2020. It was that, yeah, no, it must have been that 2020 season. where Tampa won the Super Bowl. He went on a crazy run during the playoffs where they basically just were able, they had so many other pieces in the right places on that defense that they basically were allowed to just tell

Devin White, just go hunt the football. Nothing else matters. You don't have to think about coverage. You don't have to think about this player is here. Just go hunt the football. We don't care. And he was really, really productive doing that. And everybody watched a lot of great impact.

But then as that defense in Tampa started to change and they started to lose edge rushers, you know, Levanti David started slowing down, all of that, they got to the point where they needed to ask more of Devin White in coverage, and he just, he just could not do it. So to take a linebacker who wasn't really giving you a lot in coverage in college, and then continue to not do so in the NFL at five overall is tough. There's kind of no way around it.

Look, he was a piece to help them win the Super Bowl. So if you want to say that and it was worth it, then it, okay, you can. But the value of drafting that at number five just was not good for them. Very strange year. Yeah. 2019. Let me see. 2018.

Yeah, the Andre Dillard pick wasn't great either. But it's not the in common for the worst. No, no, no, no. I'm just sort of like listing those off. Yeah. Because, yeah, like the back end of the draft, it wasn't great either. John Abraham, Jerry Tilleri at 28, LJ Collier at 29. DeAndre Baker, you mentioned him at 30.

Greg Little was a top 40 pick. He was terrible. Oh, Greg Little. 37th overall. Yeah. Yeah. That was a big time overdraft. Wow.

Oh, God, the Raiders also took Trayvon Mullen in this draft? They did indeed. 40th overall. Oh, my God. And he played a lot for them, I feel like. Okay, the first two years. Yeah. AJ Brown was picked at 51 in this draft.

Which is pretty crazy considering the names that we mentioned that got picked earlier. But like, he's up there for the biggest deal. I don't think anybody. D.K. Yeah, DK was in this draft. Eric McCoy was in this draft. Eric McCoy's one of the best centers in the NFL, I think. You get him in the second round.

Although I think for a center, I guess. Second round's appropriate. Zach Allen, you get him in the third round. He's been fantastic for the Denver Broncos. McLorin's in the third round. Good players. Yeah, McLaren was a really strong pick. New York Jets, Legend.

Jekai Polite in the third round. Oh, that's a contender for the worst. Yeah. Yeah, it just couldn't barely make it through an NFL camp. Yeah, that's tough. That one's tough. Oh, Julian Love picked two spots after Max Crosby, also a good player. Great pick.

Great pick. Andrew Van Ginkle in the fifth? Still rocking and rolling? I know, he is. All right. 2018. Three more years to go. Same position for me.

And not going to surprise anyone, though. I think there's a lot of great combo at the best. Oh, yeah. I think we're probably going to be, we're going to be eye for eye here again. I factored in value because I know people are going to counter with Josh Allen. Lamar Jackson at 32 is in hindsight one of the better draft trades in the history of the modern day NFL. The Raven sent pick 52 and 125 and a future second rounder to go up to 32 and also got back 132. So in hindsight, they went up from 52 all the way to 32 for a difference of moving back from 12.

to 132 and a future two for Lamar Jackson. No matter how you slice it for Lamar Jackson at the end of that statement is extremely worth it. It's a masterclass. Yeah. Yeah. It's a masterclass. And they had to have, you know, the you know what's to go up and do this.

Lamar just wasn't viewed that way by the league. I know, I know. As a special quarterback talent. And Ozzy said no, I'm going to make the move. It is funny watching Lamarie. You know, let me go back and look up the stats here. Yes, like Grenade. That was one last Ozzy special.

He was, he was, that was Ozzie's parting gift. Was Lamar Jackson? Yeah. All right, this is being very slow for me. But like, Lamar won a Heisman. And I think that a lot of people looked at Lamar and they were like, ah, he's just running college quarterback. He was not.

Like, he, he absolutely was not. And that's why I'm trying to remember what his, I mean, what was his completion percentage when he was with Louisville? I'm looking it up right now. Yeah, it's also amazing. So his career, so his career completion percentage was below 60%. And he never had a single season where he had above 60% completion percentage. So I guarantee that's what scared everybody away.

Definitely. He just gave them the ability to write Lamar Jackson off completely. The gap of improvement that him and Josh Allen made an accurate. see as passers is one of the more remarkable things from an NFL draft class of all time. True. True. But they both were elite athletes that were able to play the position as elite athletes while they grew into being better passers.

I would agree with that. So the worst pick. Well, hold on. Before we get to the worst pick, there's a lot of best picks here that are awesome because I agreed with you that it's Lamar because getting him at 32. It's the fact that it's not that Lamar is just a franchise quarterback or that he's a good quarterback. Lamar is a two-time MVP. He is a three-time

first-time team all-pro. Like Lamar at points in his career has been truly unstoppable. But in this draft, you had Fred Warner, who is the best linebacker in the NFL, a game-changing defensive chess piece. You got him in the third round.

And then this is also, Connor, the Jordan Milata draft. The Eagles got Jordan Milata in the seventh round. Man. That is fabulous work by the Eagles. It was tough, I think, between those three, just admiring how good those guys have been. But Jesse Bates was a second rounder.

Derwin James was picked in the middle of the first round. Brian O'Neill was a second rounder. Wyatt Teller was a fifth rounder in this draft. This was, there was a lot of good players in this draft. There really was. Top half of this draft, man, was special. I mean, it's Baker. Sequin and Sam Darnold, Super Bowl Champion, by the way.

Denzel Ward, Bradley Chub, Quentin Nelson, Josh Allen, Roquant Smith, Mike McGlinchie, Mika Fitzpatrick, Vita Veja, Theran Payne, Derwin James, Jair Alexander, Layton Van der Leyen Vanderex, Frank Ragnow. I mean, the top half of this draft, the top 20 was pretty star-studded in 2018. The worst pick in this draft is undeniably Josh Rosen. I agree. a player I certainly missed on QB1. To this capacity.

QB1, baby. Big miss. Man, you look at the fact that one, he just wasn't an NFL player. Two, obviously, the fact you had Lamargo so far after him. But man, like after Rosen went at 10, Minka Fitzpatrick beat of Vea,

Duran Payne are the next three picks. It's just he says, Zach, Wilson level quarterback miss, Shrey Lance level quarterback miss. Like guys that just give you nothing at the position and set you back years.

Although the weird thing with them is then they got Kyler right away. Well, it's true, but this has to be the worst pick because, and there were some other ones that weren't great. You know, Tave and Brian was not a good pick for the Jacksonville Jaguars, even if it was later in the first round. Marcus Davenport didn't live up to

everything that they traded up to go get him, but he's certainly not worse than Rosen at all whatsoever. Rashad Penny. Rashad Penny. First rounder. Yeah. But the thing with Rosen is exactly 365 days to the day that he was drafted.

He was then traded to another team. And he started three games in his career after he was traded. I mean, that was, this is a bust of a pick. There's no way around it. Which I thought Josh Rosen showed a ton of talent when he was at UCLA. Well, he was always talented. I thought he was awesome in college. And I think, you know, you guys sort of ask us about like scouting lessons all the time.

The game sped up and he just, he was not able to see it at that speed. He just was not able to anticipate. He didn't, he didn't always have like the strongest arm, certainly in a class with guys like Lamar Jackson and Josh Allen, Baker Mayfield, right? Those guys. Josh Al or Josh Rosen, he wasn't going to have like the top tier arm in this class. but it just he just wasn't as physically gifted as he needed to be and he didn't process things at the speed in which you needed to process them when we got to the pro level and that was that was part of what the miss was for me

Peter had a good shout Billy Price sneaky terrible pick in the first round was not great was not great just one of those guys where it was like right away you're like oh boy Billy Price hung around in the league for five years so credit to him uh TV saying Rosen's worse than Wilson and Lance the other two at least had bright spots at some point. Rosen didn't even show anything in the NFL. You know what? You're absolutely right, Lowry, because Zach Wilson, as bad as he was, had a couple good games, genuinely. And Trey Lance has hung around as a legitimate number two quarterback in the league. Josh Rosen was spit out of the league immediately. He was spit out of the league immediately.

I cannot in all good consciousness say that him in the number 10 overall pick was worse than the 49ers trading three first round picks up for Tray Lance, who did not do anything for them. It's not even on their team anymore. But they dug themselves out. Kyle Shanahan, the ultimate shovel. 2017. What do we got? 2017.

I mean, come on now. There is a really good runner up. Come on now. The best pick in the 2017 draft is a little unharalded fella named Patrick Mahomes. Yeah. That they went up and got. Small town teams, small town dreams, you know, just an underdog story. Turns out it worked out pretty good.

Patrick Mahomes is the best pick of 2017. But if you want to do the non-quarterback rule that makes it more fun, George Kittle in the fifth round is one of the greatest draft picks of the last 10 years. Crazy, crazy. I mean, maybe the best side end in the NFL, or at least has been in the conversation over the last what? Definitely. When you talk about the complete game, he alters the run game. he's elite receiver.

He's great after the catch. And you want to talk about the unbalanced nature of the Niners. Was this the Solomon Thomas here? Yes, it was. Yeah, I know. This was the Solomon Thomas here. Solomon Thomas, third overall, George Kittle in the fifth round. They are just a gift when it comes to draft content.

I didn't even think of that. But it's all the time. It's all the time. Oh, we'll get Fred Warner in the third. Screw it. Brock Purdy, Mr. Relevant pick. Trade the farm for Tray Lance at three. It's amazing.

I didn't even think that I totally forgot that they're the magician franchise of the NFL. Man. Just when you think they're about to be sought in half, they jump out of the box. It's crazy. I mean, Mahomes obviously was the best pick, not only because it's Patrick Mahomes, but also because of what the chiefs did to go up and get them. They traded their first round pick, which was number 27th overall, a future first round pick and a second to move from 27 to 10 to go get them.

him. I mean, that is conviction. I mean, that you have conviction on this player and you went and you traded up for him. I mean, you traded up for him. He was picked ahead of Deshawn Watson that year when Deshawn was coming off of the incredible career that he had at Clemson. And again, like you trade up for a player like this and have that much conviction to pick him. That just makes the selection that much better. So yeah, I think that George Kittles in that conversation, T.J. Watt at 30. T.J. Watt's been one of the best edge rushers over the last day. You got him at 30. Ryan Ramcheck at 32, man.

If his knees were a little bit more healthy, Ryan Ramchick was as solid as they come at offensive tackle in this league. He was awesome. He had Cooper Cup in the third round. Chris Goblin was in the third round. Trey Hendrickson was in the third round. Some good picks in this one. Yeah, some really good ones.

And it's funny you bring up the receivers because it makes my worst pick that feel that much worse. Who did you go with? I went with John Ross. Oh, yeah. So did I have a lot. Okay. Ninth overall, the weird thing for the Bengals,

so you had Mahomes go at 10. Yep. The Bengals were in this phase that it felt like, hey, we feel good about Andy Dalton. And Andy Dalton was coming off, I believe. So this was the 2017 draft. He, they went,

they won his first five seasons as a starter. Yeah, that's amazing. They had a winning record Andy Dalton's first five years of his career. Then in 2016, they went 6-9 and 1, and then he's going into his age 30 season in 2017. Instead of looking for the next guy, they not only pass on the quarterbacks and take John Ross, but they take a colossal bust that wide receiver in a good receiver draft. Now, I'm not saying anybody else would have taken Cooper Cup or Chris Gobwin over John.

Ross and you didn't juju had a good career juju went in the second round yeah it was just a total miscalculation of the player that john ross was and it hurts even more when you look at where the two players on the screen were taken it's hindsight it's hindsight i get that but there's but that's that's the way the cookie crumbles here so peter in the chat is saying not trubisky taking him over my homes and watson trading the capital after getting fooled by the niners it's a pretty bad deal yeah i i do think that that is the the trubisky trade was bad but the Trubisky pick, I think, overall, was bad. He was definitely in consideration here,

and at one point I actually had him as the pick here. But, I mean, you traded two-thirds and a fourth. You move up one spot. Okay, it's obviously not ideal, especially because of what Peter was talking about, where you're kind of getting fooled by the Niners to do it. Like, that's objectively not great. But Trubisky at least had, what was it, that 2018 season?

Or didn't he go like 11? What was his record? Oh, was that when they had a club dub with Nagy as the coach? After the games, they'd win and they'd be in the locker room and it turned into a club. Yes. It was the one good Nagy year. So he goes 11 and 3 that 2018 year. He goes 8 and 7 in 2019.

He goes 6 and 3 in 2020. And I just obviously like it wasn't good enough. Don't get me wrong. I'm not trying to make a ton of excuses for him. But the reason why I ended up going with John Ross over him is the worth pick here is because not only the context that you gave there. He was a healthy scratch for most of his rookie year. He missed time due to injury. He requested a trade before his rookie contract was over, and he never even gained one K career yards. And you were the number nine overall pick. Not good. Peter in the chat said, I don't

know how you could say Pierce is a bad pick for his legal issues, but not mention Watson here. I'm actually going to pull the reverse card on you here, Peter. Watson is in contention for the best pick in 2017, because it's about the team that took them. The Houston Texans, after taking Deshawn Watson from trading to Sean Watson, if I have this right, got Will Anderson, Camari Lasseter, Tank Dell, and Kalam Bullock. And they also got some guys they missed on, like they missed on Kenyon Green, Damian Pierce hasn't worked out, Cade Stover.

But think of the cornerstones they got from drafting Deshaun Watson. They got Will Anderson, Kamari Lasseter, and Kaelan Bullock. So I'd actually argue that Sean Watson is in contention as one of the best picks in this trap because what it did for the Texans franchise today. They certainly got the better end of that trade. No doubt about that. Solomon Thomas, you mentioned that he was picked third. I think the O.J. Howard picks Stunk, too. Yeah.

He gets picked 19. I know, but he was liked consensus-wise. Yeah, but he stunk. Yeah, he stunk. That one cuts deep, huh? Evan Ingram gets picked after him. Dave and Joku gets picked after him. O'F.

I think O.J. Howard had some volume stats with James throwing him the ball, but then when Tom Brady came along, he was basically non-existent, and he wasn't on the team anymore. But it's not nearly as bad as, like, John Rocher, Mitch Trubiskey. Uh, okay. What? The next one is probably the most fun one. The 2016 one?

For this show specifically, I don't want to jump ahead to worst pick, but it's the most fun one. Because it's a battle of, it's, yeah, I'll kill you. It's the mountain versus the hound for worst pick. No. You think I'm laughing at you, and I am. I'm also laughing at me. You think I'm laughing at you, which I am. I think there's no question.

You better, you better have. the same one that I do. But man, I had to think about it. The best pick is Dak Prescott. The best pick is Dak Prescott. They got an excellent quarterback in the fourth round. Yep. With a comp pick, by the way.

Oh, man, good catch. Comp pick. Comp pick Dak Prescott. The value of the quarterback and the historical sample sizes of the last 25 years of finding a quarterback of Dak's caliber in the fourth round are so outrageously low. that he is the best pick, no matter how many other good players are in this draft. I agree with you completely

that I think that it's Dack Prescott. Because Derek Henry is a second round pick in this draft, but it's still Dack. Brother, you know who else is second round pick in this draft? Chris Jones. A future Hall of Famer in Chris Jones. Good call. That's where it was tough for me.

Chris Jones, three-time first-time all-pro, first-team all-pro, three-time second-team all-pro, seven-time pro-bowler. Most consecutive games in the NFL ever with a sack. I think he's going to end his career with over 100 sacks. He's going to hit that triple digit. And he's just, he's been unbelievable for so much of his career. And even with that being the case, I also picked Dak Prescott, because that's what it means when you get a franchise. tries caliber quarterback that late in the draft. Now the worst pick is one of the greatest matches in draft history for worst pick.

I think there's three. Oh, I'm very curious to know your third. Maybe it's an emotional third for me. Okay. Oh, okay. So I think the worst pick and he won by a tiebreaker because of the position he plays is Roberto. Yeah, of course it's Roberto. fucking have a while.

They traded a third and fourth to go up and get them. They traded up! They traded up to draft a kicker. By the way, they also went against history. He was the first kicker taken in the second round since the Jets took Mike Nugent, which was well before this. So the process stunk.

How did it always the Bucks and the Jets? The trade stunk, and then the player historically stunk. But to make you feel better, I don't. He wasn't a runaway freight train because Christian Hakenberg was taken in the same damn round. Dude, he's not even, he wasn't even one of the three. Wow. Wait, you got two more.

I can't wait to hear these. Dude, second round pick quarterbacks bust all the time. Pause. And he, he was so bad that they never had to play him. Yeah. Where Aguio. That was not even close for me. Aguio had to actually impact Buckleyley.

games that year he was so bad. Yeah. What do you mean? Impacted my livelihood. I was covering the team. That's right. You had a front row seat. No, actually, actually, well, yeah, no, no, no, hold on. 2016 was my, oh my gosh, yes, 2016 was my first year where I lived within driving distance of one buck place. And I remember I, I reached out to the people at SB Nation and I said like, hey, like, I will go to training camp and I will do training camp notes for you because I knew that the managing editor, he didn't even live in America.

He lived over in Europe. So I knew that he was not going to be in Tampa. And I was like, I will do training camp notes for me if you like let me go and you just like let me write about it. Because that point, like I was trying to get a job anywhere. And he's like, okay. He's like, he was very upfront. He's like, I do not have anything to pay you. And I was like, dude, I get it.

It's totally fine. I'm just trying to make a name for myself. Like that was a game back then for people like that. It was. And I remember that was the first training camp that I covered. And then the next year I was working for Peter Report. But yes, I got to watch Roberto O'Gaill miss all those kicks in training camp. Yeah.

Boy, I can't wait for my first day on my dream job. That's amazing. It's amazing. They traded up to draft him. They traded up. That's what makes, and it's a kicker. Even though Hakenberg stunk and stunk as a prospect and was, over drafted. You can't trade up in the second round for a kicker and then he's historically bad.

Yeah. No, it's true. It's true. So he was so yeah, Hakenberg wasn't even in my top three. Oh, Hackenberg was in a absolute slug fest with a guile. No, not for me. For me. Not for me. But it's personal. Yeah, okay. That's, you know what? Okay. So, so one of the, some things are personal. Some things are not business. One of the ones for me was also personal. Vernon Hargraves is on this list. Now, I thought about it. Now, Hargraves stuck around for a while and he was a, He was a starter for them, but they traded him immediately because he got called out for not trying. For like giving up on a play in an actual regular season game. They're like, oh, okay, bye.

Get out. Now, that wasn't until his fourth year of his deal, but he gets traded immediately after like a game where he showed completely poor effort. The other one is Eli Apple. Eli Apple got drafted. What number was this? 10th overall. 10th overall.

And his best years were not. with the giants. And not two years later, Landon Collins called him a cancer to the team and that he should not be in the organization. Not two years later. Do you know how much you must be hated for, especially by Landon Collins. Landon Collins, like he was that dude around that team. Very well respected for him to come out and say that.

It's crazy that Eli Apple, Eli Apple is one of the strangest NFL careers because he was a colossal bust as the 10th overall pick and then somewhere down the road on his fourth or fifth team with the Bengals, people were like, wait, can Eli Apple play? Yeah, right, right, right. And then he bounced around. He had a 10-year career with, I think, seven teams.

Wow. And it felt like on the Bengals, all of a sudden he was competitive. Right, I agree. Yeah, very weird. People are shouting out Paxon Lynch as well, which all due respect, Sports Illustrated cover athlete, Paxson Lynch. Man.

Paxon Lynch had a, got selected, what did he get selected? 26th overall in this draft. He started four total games in his career, two in 2016, two in 2017, for a record of one and three, through four touchdowns and four interceptions,

792 yards, and then he was out of the league by 2019. Yeah, it's not Not great. Not great, folks. Here's one more for the Niners. Joshua Garnett was the first round pick in this draft. I barely even remember.

Dude, I had to go back and look. I'm like, Joshua Garnett, I don't even remember much about him. Yeah. He just got hurt and did nothing for the Niners. I see people saying this in the chat. Tyree Kiel, so Hill was picked in the fifth round, but Hill was picked in the fifth round because of the domestic violence. stuff that he was that he not charging with kid he he admitted he was guilty to it when he was

in college so that's why he's a fifth round pick so I didn't consider him there for the best because it's like yeah okay he's value in the fifth round because it's Tyree kill but the reason why he went in the fifth round is because of domestic violence stuff that he I think I've told this story before and why he wasn't the best pick to me um because everything you just said Trevor I'll never forget after that draft i got dinner with a buddy that was in a front office and i sat down and not even 30 seconds into us like he looks at me and he goes can you believe what the chiefs did and i was like what and i i didn't realize at the time because i wasn't covering day three of the draft to that extent yet i just tried to cover the as much guys as you knew were going to be picked he couldn't like

nobody in the league could believe that tyrie kill was picked well he was supposed to go undrafted yeah Like it was, everybody was like, we'll see if he gets into a rookie minicam. Right. And the Chiefs took him and obviously the rest of his history. But it was a shock to the league that he got picked. Man, speaking of wide receivers, Corey Coleman also went 15th overall in this draft. Colossal bust. Yeah, did not, did not go well.

Did not go well. There we go, folks. Best and Worth draft picks last 10 years, 2016 to 2025. Hopefully guys had fun. We definitely did. We would love to hear. Fascinating trip down memory line. Yeah.

We would love to hear you guys's submissions. As well, obviously we were reading some in the chat as we were doing this show live. But after the fact, if you're watching the show after we are live, we would love to hear from you. Sound off in the comment section. Or you can sound off in the NFLZ Discord, which you can find the link to join the Discord in the description of this here show. Connor, got anything else before we get out of here? No, we're going to read the supers and then we're going to go barbecue. Yeah, yeah, yeah.

So stick around. You don't barbecue, you grill. You do grill. This was a tough barrier that I had to like, you know, discuss with my wife's family. They call it barbecuing. And I was like, no, you grill. Yeah, I don't call it barbecueing. No, but all people do.

Yeah. But you grill. Are you right? Like you grill your hamburgers and hot dogs. Barbecue to me is brisket, pulled pork, you know, there you go. So we're on the same page. We're on the right side of history. All right.

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