NFL Stock Exchange: An NFL Draft Podcast - The Wheel of Mock Drafts (Four 3-Round Mock Drafts)

Episode Date: December 23, 2025

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Mackay Lemon, man. He's listed 511-195. His faults are not of his own. They're God's faults, actually. When everybody after every game, like, thanks God, Mackay Lemon should be like, he should do that. I would applaud if he was like, you know what?

That was me out there today. You know what? I got to give all the glory to me. I mean, it's good that I didn't finish the joke. Welcome to the opening bell, the NFL Stock Exchange podcast. I'm Trevor Sikkim. That is Connor Rogers here for the first episode of Wheel of Mock Drafts, baby. Very excited for this show format.

You know, it came around, Connor, because a lot of people were asking us to do fixture franchise episodes for a lot of teams that we just weren't going to have time to get. But with this being a draft-centric YouTube channel, we felt like this is a great way to do it. So all of the teams that we have not gotten to yet for fixture franchises, we're going to put their names on a wheel here on this show. We're going to spin the wheel. And wherever that wheel lands, we're going to do a three-round mock draft for that team. We're going to try to get four in, but we know that, you know, us going back and forth with you animals kind of takes a little bit of time. So we'll try to do as much as we can here, cramming as much

as we can in for the holidays. Connor, how are you doing, my friend? I'm good, man. And there's a mystery element to this. It's not a pre-programmed wheel. I promise you, it's not an animation. There's a real random. Trevor and I can't prepare for the show.

We just got to know the teams the best we can, know the prospects the best we can, and be ready to go. So it puts us on the hot seat. A lot of love for your Collinsworth jersey in the background. It's the first thing I said when I joined the stream. I was like sick background today. love to see it.

No chat. I'm not wearing a scarf for whoever you forget. This is ridiculous. Well, hold on. Wait a second. If he was, yeah.

And so what? And so what? What's the big deal? Cause a fashion forward young. Yeah, I'm not really a scarf guy up here, though. Honestly, I recently got the,

like the full ski hood that a lot of the players wear for, you know, the real cold dog walks. And that is highly functioning. Have you, uh, Have you gotten into the turtleneck life?

I've dabbled. I feel like you could pull off a turtleneck. I like the turtle neck. I don't think I can do it. I'm a fan of the turtle neck. The problem is for Jets pre and post, we have to wear ties. Otherwise, this time of year, I would cheat the system, and I would just go turtleneck under the suit almost every week because it's really easy.

A lot of people think it's a statement. The Nate Burleson. The Nate Burleson. It is, the Adam Lefco. It is a... Oh, Adam does do that a lot. It looks great on those guys. It would be a nice little cheat, but yeah, we got to wear ties.

So I dabble in the turtleneck, but not often. Man, shot of turtlenecks everywhere. You and I are being bullied in the chat, man. I can't even keep up with the chat, actually. Draft talkies said Connor shortstacked Scheisty Rogers. That's pretty good. honestly that's what my neighbors call me when they see me out with it on somebody said somebody said trevor you actually have a neck to have to have a neck to wear a turtle neck all right that's it

enough's enough i'm throwing on warrior i'm getting the inspiration from tom hardy and i'm exclusively just doing shrugs from now until december 25th next year i'm wrapping out four plates on each side of shrugs and i will never work out any other body part ever again no I mean, honestly, like, that's, that's probably how you just look the most jacked, is to just have the mountain, the mountain, the mountain traps behind you. You take the groceries out of the car all in one trip, four bags in each hand, but you also farmer walk it. Yes, 100, yeah, you got a, you got a farmers walk it.

Peter's in the chat saying I got the longest neck ever. Somebody. You don't have a Mike Glennon. You do not. Somebody hasn't seen a Mike Glennon. You do not have a Mike Glennon, my friend. No, I don't think that's, that's out of control. Tasty said, Trevor, muscle hamster, sykima.

RIPA, muscle hamster. True. Yeah, that's... Buccaneer legend. Okay, housekeeping things here on this show before we spin the wheel for the first time and get into the mock shop. The first one is shout at the PFF Discord.

We got over 2,500 people in the PFF Discord. If you guys want to get in there as well, it's crazy on game days. The team-centric channel chats are always fun, not only on game days, but throughout the week, the instant reactions, the mock drafts, the team building. The Discord link is in the show bio, so you guys can get it there. Come join us.

Love you all for getting us to 50K. Such a cool accomplishment. It is extremely humbling that we have over 50,000 subscribers here on this channel. Really, really cool. Love you guys. Just wanted to say that again. We are a show of the people. So we're always listening to you guys.

We're always trying to do this show as best that we possibly can. So with that, in mind, we have seen the suggestions from people who watch the show live, but then also don't get to watch it live. And the people who don't get to watch it live, sometimes they're like, eh, like, I don't love the super chats, but we love getting to go back and forth with the super chats and all that good stuff. So what we are going to do is from this point on, we might read some super chats that are topical that we see like pop up into the chats throughout the show. Right. But most of the super chats, we will leave for the after the episode part.

So if you guys are watching live, we will get to your super chats and we will read your super chats at the end of the show in the after the after the episode part, which if you guys don't see it live, we post a specific one-off on Fridays where we will take all of the after-the-episode stuff and we will make a big video out of it, which you guys can see it there. So we are hoping that that is a good solution to allow you guys to keep, you know, I'm going back and forth is because we love to do it, but hopefully the flow of the show is better. So we're not like stopping in the middle to read how much of super chats that maybe don't have

anything to do with the show, which we love. But we're just trying to, we're trying to make the show flow as best that we possibly can do in these lives. Yeah, like you said, we're always, what's been a lot of fun about this show is it kind of evolves with the audience and the interaction part, which the Discord is going to be for. I promise I'm going to get in there And I'm in there already. I'm going to mostly try to, like, do some Q&A stuff that we don't get to do here because I can't always stay on for all the super chats after the show. So I'd like to try to make up for it a little bit with some Q&A stuff.

Like you said, we'll still read super chats. We'll stay on plenty of times together after and there'll be content. So we're fine in different ways and just trying to make the best shows, man. And it's really cool how receptive everyone is to that all the time. Yeah, appreciate you guys, you know, kind of rocking with us. of working with this is we're trying to figure out the best way to make this the best show possible for you guys. But with that being said, let's get the chef involved. Let's pull it up, baby. Let's get to the wheel. So these are all of the teams that we have not done a fixture franchise for.

So obviously when one of these teams gets picked here, we will remove them from the wheel. I'm actually saying things out loud now here on the show that I did not double check with Tyler that he has the ability to do live on the show. However, that is the idea of what we're doing here. Wait, hold on. Wait. Do you see the Packers? That's amazing. That's amazing.

Oh, man. Did you see Packers fans? They were saying to us, finally, you guys are going to get bullied into still doing the Packers mock drafts anyways. Are we? Tyler did not. we did we did not consult tyler at all with this this is all this is all the chef here um i swear if it lands on green bay with this sliver of a chance i'm gonna lose it it feels like it's

bound to happen by the way i was just dying as well uh from sam zimmer who said todd bowles could never pull off an adjustment like this just just such a nice little stray bullet But hey, man, when the Bucs still win the division, they're favored. No way, still? Yes. No way. Yes, they are favored to win the division because the Panthers are almost a touchdown underdog against Seattle.

And then since the Bucks are home against the Pants, basically, Vegas thinks that the Panthers are going to lose to Seattle, they think the Bucs are going to win this weekend. Then they think they're going to be playing for the division at Tampa, where they won't, the Panthers won't be favored. If you're betting on a division winner today, the bucks are not heavy favorites, but they're like a pretty good favorite, minus 160, I think, or something. Wow. Insanity.

Todd Bowles is. Yes. Hold on. I'm not going to say. Eternal. Wait a second. I just noticed this because the chat just pointed it out. Tyler, the chiefs are not on this board.

I don't know if we can adjust that. We can, Tyler, if we can adjust it, you can adjust it. you can adjust it while we're doing the mock draft, that's totally fine. But if not, we will get the chiefs on there. We'll make sure the chiefs are on there for the next episode of Wheel mock drafts that we did. Yeah, the chiefs don't need any help.

Here's how we do a mock draft. Mahom, we're drafting a new knee for Mahomes. There you go. Okay, the franchise is safe. Jeremiah Love, you are Kansas City Chief. Yeah, this is actually, we don't have the chiefs on there, so you can't rage bait the entire country once again by picking Jeremiah.

This is my teammates looking out for you guys. and me. Yes. All right, Tyler. Let's do it. Let's spin it. Spin it. See the first team here that we were doing on the wheel of mock draft series.

I swear if it's the Packers. Okay. Oh. Oh. Ah. Oh. There it is. Miami Dolphins.

Miami Dolphins. So this was a team that... What was that 10 FPS? Was a... Listen. guys guys guys it's like it's like playing skyrim on a game boy advance i still would okay let's pick the miami dolphins the miami dolphins were a team that we thought about here for fix your franchise for a long time remember they were right on the line right when they started

to turn around is right when we were like okay this is the week that we're doing the miami dolphins this is the week that we're doing the miami dolphins and i'm glad that we waited a little bit here because now that they've been eliminated we have a much clear picture they're going to on from Tua Tua, whether he's on the roster or not, he's not going to be their starting quarterback. It doesn't seem like he's going to be on the roster, even with all the dead cap that might come with them having to cut him. But I think that now we have a much fuller picture because the defensive line played a little bit better. Some guys on the offensive line played a little bit better. So let's do a three-round mock draft here from Miami. We'll

talk about their roster a little bit more as we kind of go through this exercise. But as of right now they are picking number 10 overall here in the first round so let's sim it and let's get to it connor what are your thoughts right off the bat here for miami and some options that they could have here at number 10 overall realistically they're probably going to be boxed out of a quarterback trade up at 10 right now if the giants pick at one and miami finds a way but you just look at it the raiders the browns the jets arizona are all better positioned for the quarterbacks in this draft. I think Mike McDaniel, if he is safe,

is going to have to make it work with a bridge quarterback here, whether that is trading for Mac Jones, signing Malik Willis, whatever it may be. Obviously, he has connections to both organizations that employ those quarterbacks now. So I think Trevor, it's really just about making the roster, improving the roster in any way possible. It's not about centering in on the quarterback after,

to a, it almost feels like a bridge year for Miami. Do you see the pathway for them going up to get Mendoza or more? I don't. I don't really. I think that if they were to draft the quarterback in this class, I feel like it might be Ty Simpson if he's also in this class, because Simpson had a good game against Oklahoma. Yes, he did.

And specifically, he had a good game versus the Blitz, which was nice to see because in the last month and a half that Simpson has really struggled, he struggled against pressure. And he played a lot better against the Blitz against Oklahoma, which was, which was nice. He was still a little bit inaccurate with some high passes, but does he play himself back into this conversation? Probably not. So to answer your question, I think it's much more likely no. I think it's much more likely that they are going into next year, like almost with Quinn yours, you know, to like see if that's the guy.

Now, I don't think it'll be just Queenieuers, like, I wonder if they're, you know, in the Malik Willis conversation, potentially bring him in. I mean, it's not going to be Justin Fields. You're not going to go get him. No. They can't go get any of the guys who are going to cost a lot of money. They obviously weren't interested in playing Zach Wilson this week. Right, exactly.

So I think it's, I think it's most likely that we just operate that Quinn Ewers is probably going to be quarterback for this team next year um would you agree with that him or a a lower level bridge player yeah okay all right so i think offensive line's got to be a lot better for this team i wonder if like honestly if mike mcdaniel is still the head coach spencer fano makes a ton of sense right because he's a great athlete he could play guard for you he could play tackle for you if you need a to play tackle, although Patrick Paul has played well. Yeah, Patrick Paul is certainly part of the solution, which is a good feeling.

Right. I agree with your point. If you take Fano, at worst case, he's going to play guard for you. Oh, no, it's, wait, it's Fano. We were saying it wrong. Oh, my God, I did it again. Fano. Sealing fan.

Sealing fan. Sealing Fano. He just got a high ceiling. You see what I'm. There you go. I'm grass mistrows. The chat's also talking about Mantua Delane. who I think a lot of people are going to potentially have as cornerback one in this draft.

Definitely need to get better at corner. Yeah, Zalayan had an amazing season. I think that their defensive line played a lot better. Let's see. I just want to make sure I'm not forgetting anybody here with Miami. Yeah, I mean, Kenneth Grant's played better. Jordan Phillips has played better. obviously you have chop robinson

Nick Chubbs been disappointing but I don't know I think that I would go I think I would go Fano here because interior offensive line's been so bad for them and their identity is running the football

yeah I think I would go Fano I would too I would prioritize offensive line earlier over a coin I actually don't mind day two of this corner class me too i agree i agree with you completely yeah the more tape i watch i'm like i don't know if i'm taking mansor delane in the top 10 when i can get i don't know jim haven't having one of those in a while it's so good it'll never if tony romo leaves us with

anything on this earth it's absolutely that i'm looking at the dolphins free agents in 2026 to make sure that we're not like missing anything big it's not a lot of big time players like Zach Wilson, Cater Kohu, Ifatumelofone Wu, Ashton Davis, Leah Mykenberg, Darren Waller, but, you know, he's on a one-year deal. Rasul Douglas, Artie Burns, Willie Gay, Cole Strange, they're not really losing anybody that you'd be like, yeah, yeah, we're losing this player, so we have to replace him. So I think this gives us a lot of freedom here. yeah Tyree Kill Parkor in the chat saying Tyree Kill is going to be gone

I think so too I think if they move on from him they actually save a lot of money on the cap like they save like 20, 30 million something like that so it makes it taking Tua's dead cap it's easier to do that

if you're moving on for both him and Tyree Kill when in doubt draft the tight end says Peter let's go with Fano let's go Fano here And then let's see what the second round has for us with the cornerback spot. They actually got a bunch of picks, right?

They have a second rounder and they have two third rounders. Yeah, so we got a little bit of flexibility here. Well, they traded Jalen Phillips. Right. Which helps. Yes. Yeah. Yes.

Well, I mean, it doesn't help because he's a good football player, but, you know, it helps. That's very true. And I was hoping that man would be right there. Yeah, who, Keith Abney? Keith Abney. Yeah, Keith Abney, I think, is a really solid second round selection, really good year out of Arizona State, somebody who is by far the Sun Devils best cover corner.

A lot of times when I was watching wide receivers that had Arizona State on their schedule, I would throw this game on specifically because I wanted to see how they played against Keith Avony. Amarian Miller had a bad day against him. Yeah. And I was like, damn, I like Amarian Miller. Right.

But Keith Abney is putting pause on him. The only other one that I would debate here at 42, you know, is my boy, A.J. Halsey. Yes, because they are currently starting Ashton Davis's safety. Right, right. Now, they have Minka. Right. But if you have A.J. Halsey, which, man, yeah,

Ashton Davis, Andy Fatoumelfone, who both of those guys free agents, for Sewell Douglas is a free agent. the good is it's a and I don't know how much money Miami will spend this offseason of course but it's a very good safety free agent class in the NFL which is weird to say about anything because free agency stinks in the NFL both Rams guys are free agents briskers a free agent like there's some guys out there for me I think I'd go with the corner but I understand the argument for both yeah let's go Keith Abney here

I know we go Keith Abney for a lot of these guys, but... Well, he's good. He is good, and I think that he, I think he could be CB1 for him. So he's got Spencer Fano, we've got Keith Abney, really good start here. Man, Stowers would be good for him. That's like such a Miami style, man. Kind of forgot about him in this pool of players. Yeah.

And don't sleep on the fact, Trevor, they're kind of need another wider. receiver now that's true we're talking about cutting tyree kill i mean it can't be malik washington out there all the time with jaylon wattle i think omar cooper jr's in the conversation here he fits um man your boy dion burks looked good in the playoff man every time he made a play i would stand up in point my family was like why are you doing this and i just looked at i was like you wouldn't get it yeah you wouldn't get it you're not at the discord you don't get the show You wouldn't get it. Yeah, I mean, Dionne Berks was, he was cooking against Bama.

I kind of love Eli Stowers for this team. It's a fun, it's a fun fit. Stowers, like Stowers is the younger version, and I know he's a little bit older of a prospect, so a little irony saying that, but he is like the younger version of what they want Darren Waller to be, you know, like where Waller is in line, but he's also in the slot.

He's a wingback type of a player for. you stowers is like that type of an athlete he's got that track and field background to him he used to play quarterback he's got a lot of all around athleticism he's from a super athletic family you see the receiving grade that he has there good and contested catch situations he's not the biggest tight end of the world but i think that he is i just think he's a really good all around athlete of a tight end he would have been tight end for me in last class so i think i think he is a i think he's i think he's nice here let's do it okay scheme scheme fit to a t okay Let's go to the ice towers.

High T scheme fit. High T scheme fit is good. If you and I ran an NFL organization's bad department, like, can you imagine the quotes on the walls? Well, is the IT scheme fit or not? What we would need to do is like,

we would have to put the quotes over the super inspirational, like sports pictures. Like, you know the Arnold, like the Conquer picture that he has? It's that. but it's just like, what did you say, like, high tea, something? High T scheme fit. As if Arnold said it. Yep.

Creatine uncrustable. You have like a checklist on a whiteboard every day you punch in. It's like Albert Einstein, but then it just says creatine uncrustable. Man, we need a printing press so badly. Just make merch with all this stuff. Okay. So, all right, last pick here for him. Do you think about quarterback?

I'm glad we got Miami. It's fun when a team has four picks. I know. And a lot of needs and an interesting identity on their team. All right. So you think Mater was going to be in this draft? I know that, I know him. Yeah, I don't think so either.

Yeah, I don't think so either. Nor do I think he should be. I don't even know what Trinidad is. Isn't he in the year like seven of his college career? Yeah, but I think he's got an extra year at all. How does it happen? I know. I know.

I think it's another year. I don't really. I'm not going to think about quarterback here for him. Okay. I would say do you stash drowler and see what happens at pick 87?

Yeah, I don't know. Maybe. Let's go back to the rest of the players first. Yeah. Because I think we hit some big needs there for. I mean, I like this draft.

Omar Cooper Jr. All of a sudden now you feel. Oh, he's still there. I would take him. That's what I'm saying. Like, if you do that, then your wide receiver group is Jalen Waddle, Malik Washington, Omar Cooper Jr., and then you have Eli Stowers. That's pretty sick.

All right, what are you laughing at that? Peter said, I just popped a blue shoe, Winston Churchill. Jesus, Christ, Pete. You know what always kills me is the IG pages that use. like the peeky blinders still like images and it's like Tommy Shelby looking as badass as humanly possible and then it's just like the softest quote oh yeah it's like the dumbest quote of all time it's kind of doing like the we're doing something along that line that's yeah we're we're we're getting there at some point um lion's fan said you look like Costco tom

palisero damn that's i don't is that good or bad is that good or bad Right. I like Costco a lot. I do too. I'm living off of Costco. I'm assuming it's bad, though. No, I'm going to take it's good. I like Costco, but Lions fan, 0981 could have said, I looked like the Rolls Royce of Tom Pelliserro, and instead he said I look like the Costco.

Now, you didn't say I look like the Timo, Tom Pelliserro. No, no, no. Look, look. All right, Lions fan. Yeah, Costco's great. Thank you. He said he confirmed, not bad. Thank you. Okay. I was going to say, I was going to say, I was. going to say rolls rolls rice let's be honest let's be honest

depreciating asset yeah it is the second you you get it off the lot depreciates immediately not efficient Costco though Costco's warranty undefeated the lifetime the lifetime of their products unbelievable what you get them for a great deal i'd say it's a compliment thank you lines fan yeah all right let's take ommer cooper junior. This was a really good draft. This is a sick draft. This is a great team to start the wheel of mock drafts. This really was. McCarthy. We got to get him back in the league. Mike, getting Spencer Fano at 10 is not a D. Did you say we, hold on, wait, did you say we got to get him back in the league? Yeah, I can't. I can't deal with this anymore. I've had enough.

He's so fed up. We're getting this guy a job. Yeah, anything. He could be the quality control coach somewhere. I think this is an excellent draft. He actually loved the Abney and Omar Cooper Jr. Picks. He was lukewarm on the Stowers pick, but he butchered the Fano pick.

I think this is. Dolphins fans speak up. I'm going to go on the Dolphins Discord tonight and say, what do you think? We want to know. Yeah, I'm going to log on to the Discord and see what you guys think. I think you got an excellent interior offensive lineman that could potentially be a flex right tackle for you if you ever get to that point.

You have a starting outside cornerback, which you desperately need. You have a versatile tight end that you feel really good about. And then you're getting Omar Cooper Jr. to kind of make up for Tyree Kill there and you feel pretty good about that wide receiver room. Hell yeah. I love this.

This is a good first one. All right, let's pull the wheel back up. Mr. Coleseless says the dolphins have three thirds. Yeah, I think we are missing one. from i'll take a look why is it but is it is it like a projected comp pick oh that that we're not doing yet pals yeah i'll take a look here do they have three thirds they do have three thirds i'm working on uh he's talking to his his industry sources yeah i'm asking industry sources right now how did you acquire these i don't know it might be compensatory people

picks. So we're not Jaylen Phillips, besides Jaylen Phillips. All right. Anyways, that's, I'll be here all day. You got, you got four picks. You got four picks.

You got four picks. Feel good about it. But, yeah, good to know for the future. Ty, I'm not reading that super chat. Actually, I'll read it in the after the episode. Okay, let's spin the wheel again. Man, that is the very. freaky stuff. Yeah, you guys are animals.

All right, it's been animals. Spend it again. Just did the Miami Dolphins. Are the dolphins still on there? No, they're not. Look at the chiefs are on there. Look at them. Oh, my God.

God, felt my life passed me by. The Chicago Bears, baby. Bears fans, welcome back. Welcome back to NFL Stocky Shane. Welcome back to draft season. So here we go. The Chicago Bears. who are the one seed right now.

They're at least at the top of their division. They can be the one seed. They can be the one seed. I wasn't sure if they were the one seed as it stands today. I think they are, which is just bananas. Pretty awesome. We've done, I think, two different fixture franchises for the Chicago Bears. And we've had either a lot of draft picks or a lot of money to be able to have a lot of flexibility.

So doing those fixture franchises for Chicago was always a lot of fun because we got to go back and forth with a lot of Bears fans who are super passionate, love the team, love the offseason team building part of it too. And they did everything we said. That's why they look like this now. 100%. And that's why we're here. That's why they're a number one seat. They're the two seed. Seahawks are the one seat. I forgot Seattle has 12 wins.

Cool. Wild. But, uh... Can you imagine picking them to win the division at the beginning of the year? I can. Just saying? I thought they'd be a, well, like nine, eight. Like a very improved. This is wild.

Oh, what they are now? Yes. No, I mean, Caleb, look. Ben Johnson is my vote. I don't have one for Coach of the Year. We all have a vote as American Citizens, brother. We should for Coach of the Year. But he is not the favorite.

He's not even runner up. Yeah, let me guess. It's Vrable. Brabel? They're just going to give it to Vrable. For the third time? Yeah, they're just good. Let's be a little bit more creative here.

For Coach of the Year? Yeah. Okay. I got creative. You ready for it? Yeah. a guess, Liam Cohen? No. Okay. I didn't mean for that to sound as aggressive as it did. What's wrong with Liam Cohen? I think he's on a great job. Kyle Shanahan. Yeah, I have no problem

with this at all. It is blasphemy that he never wins. Brother, they could still get the one seat. They are in, they are also in control because the way their schedule is, I believe. Wild. Yeah. Dylan said Mike Tomlin. Yeah, you're right. 19 straight seasons. Mike Tomlin gets coach of the decade. Yeah. Mike Tomlin gets coach of the, I have no idea how you're doing this. Yeah. All right.

Let's get into it for the Bears. Three round mock draft. We got all three picks here to work with. Picking at number 29. Pretty down on the list here for the Chicago Bears. It's not really used to this one. I think T.J. Parker's their type, but does it help them more right now?

I'm not so sure that that's the case. I think at edge rusher like Armeson Thomas, who's got a little bit more juice. That's what came to mind from me right away. Joshua Josephs as well from Tennessee. He's got the really long arms. He's got the juice as well. So if you're not super into,

like if Armason Thomas is measurable, it's kind of spooky because he's like, what, 6'1, 6 foot. He's dense and he's super explosive. See if I have his spring. But Joshua Joseph's is a little bit more of a traditional edge bill. He's got super long arms. he's Twitchy himself.

You see there's really great passers numbers there from him. He's a little bit like James Pierce, Jr., where, you know, I think that there's a world where he could get a handful of sacks for you. Like, is he going to be your edge one? I don't know if that's ever going to be the case. But for Chicago, I feel like having this type of a player does make sense for the Chicago Bears. So did you have official measurements on him? I'm trying to look him up right now.

Because I am really curious. I don't think he's six feet tall. I think he's, I think he's listening. it's 6-1, and I bet he comes in it, like, right around 6-foot. Man, yeah, that would be, that would definitely be pretty small. For an edge rusher, yeah. Don't have them on the first list. Let me, I'll pull up the second wire.

So for the Bears, the interesting part of their evaluation is most turnovers in football, or one of the most heavy turnover teams in football. Kevin Byrd's a free agent. Jonathan Owen's a free agent. DeQuan Briskers, a free agent. trancey garter johnson is a free agent wait trance garter johnson he didn't play for him anymore who's doesn't he play for

who's johnsy garner johnson play for now um is it the giants no no no no no he was on somebody more oh no he does play for the bears yeah i was gonna say oh he is with the bears yeah yeah okay all right all right i was i was getting confused i feel like you you confused me sorry sorry he's uh i feel like he's uh i feel like he's bounced all over the play when i think he's a damn good football player so oh yeah he was on the texans then he was on the ravens now he's on the bears okay r mason thomas six one and five eighths two forty nine that's a win he's oh dude oh i i was never

in doubt that this dude was built like a tank the not win 31 and three quarter arm length eight and five eighth hands i just saying same brother Just saying. Hey, he ain't throwing the ball. It's, he ain't carrying the ball either, so what it matter. The height and weight, though, is a positive. Yeah, natural leverage to him. It's like he's winning an arm length consistently.

No, no. If you liked him, it shouldn't change that much of your opinion. I don't think so. And also, man, like, it's a class where the arm length is not going to be in a lot of these guys' favor. Man, Cassius Howl. Rubin Bain? Rubin Bain. Yeah.

I think those guys have the potential to go a lot later than we think they're going to go just because NFL teams don't want to mess with the measurables. Which I don't love. No, it won't change. They won't significantly change my rankings. It is where it is. Okay.

Pass rusher, safety. Is anybody stand out to you? Not really. This is the point of the draft that gets a little. Like, look at the players that just went all in front of us. C.J. Allen, Mowingoa. I would have liked to throw mellow height. Yeah, I would have to.

I think it's Parker. It probably is Parker. I didn't think Parker had a great ear, full transparency. Oh, wow. They did suspend D.K. McCaff two games. Yeah, two games. I mean, that was what you can't, you can't, you can't, I don't want to get into it because there is a lot of, I wasn't there, you know, everything like that.

There is, there is a lot of serious accusations going on there. But just the actions of it, they weren't, they weren't going to let him play again until they figured out what happens. No. Yeah. Okay. I, I, my go or Mason Thomas. It was my first thought.

I'm like, go or Mason Thomas. Get somebody that gets after the quarterback. Yeah. I think I'm a goal. I think I would vote R. Mason Thomas over T.J. Parker. Even though I like Parker, I just think like we draft him to the Bears all the time. And I think he's what they need a little bit more, which is like a true passers winner. Right.

You agree? Juice off the edge. Yeah. And everybody's already going to say, like, he just doesn't fit Dennis Allen's player. profile and all of that that's true i get it i get it but also there's a reason they don't have a player like this and need and need one they do need a player like that so it's tricky yeah

okay 61 and then we got 93 so we get two more picks here for him oh kamri ramses staring at us giving us a death stare no one you need another player on the back end now i don't think they're going to bring back brisker yeah i don't think you would think he would have been extended by now right yeah and obviously kevin byard's a little older yeah i think they'll bring one of them back to start i think they'll have one of their starting spots back and i think they'll have a player that there may be okay because they clearly have a deeper rotation here anyways so i think that they'll probably bring back one of those guys who's a starter

and have them start and then they'll probably bring back somebody else and say, okay, we're going to sign maybe one of these other guys for a little bit cheaper and then draft somebody as well to sort of compete with that spot

and may the best man win. That's my read on the situation for what they might do. Yep. I mean, I have no problem taking one of the safeties. But is there a player that you just like overall,

better from a BPA standpoint in this spot. It's not really great. I don't think so. No. You know how much I like Emmanuel McNeil Warren, but he would be more of a third round pick for them, I think. Yeah, and at that point, I would, I would rather just draft a better player.

Yeah, I haven't ranked safeties yet besides going back to summer and where I didn't, I didn't watch McNeil Warren until this year. so I don't know where I stand on that. I will soon. But I think that's, we're definitely on the right position track. Unless, I see the chat bringing up D-Tackle.

Like, that's another important spot. Who we got at D-Tackle. Yeah, I'd like to see what's left of the board. I think a lot of guys just got picked. Yeah. I think C.J. Fight is, uh,

yeah. I think he's a fire hydrant, but I think you could get him at 93. Right. I don't think you have to pick him here at 660s. one. Big Citrus went two picks ago. God, man, he would have been, he would have been great. Yeah.

Yeah, so we probably take the safety now and try to take fight later. Yeah, probably. Let's see if we can do that. Let's get Kamari here. Let's take Kamari. Camari's a stud. I think Kamari can play free safety. I think he can play robber safety.

I think he can play slot. He played, I believe, a lot more slot this year. And I didn't play in slot. It's just really difficult. So you're not, you're not going to have as good of grades. You're going to struggle a little bit more. It's tougher.

But by the way, I think he's a really talented dude. Just a note here for the third round because he's staring us in the face. But as of yesterday last night, C.J. Fight is going to go back to school. Oh, wow. Yeah. Okay. All right.

Well, it makes sense. He's, I think, a red shirt sophomore. So I thought it was a little bit of a stretch for him to maybe be in this class anyways. But I do think he's really talented. He's a really good run defender, not anywhere close to what he needs to be as a pass rusher yet. But he is a good football player. Dude, talk about guys that stood out this weekend.

Your boy, Kianti, Scott, that's a ball player, man. That's a really good football player. Damn good player, man. He's one of these guys that, is he in his sixth year? I don't know. I know that. They're six year. He's a red shirt senior.

Yeah, he's the nickel corner from Miami. for those of you who don't know who Keontes Scott is. He is so, so good against the run. Yeah. It is. He's physical downhill, run through blockers. He's feisty in coverage. You see the grades both high in Man end zone.

That's a dude that he just plays with an attitude in the slot. So James in the chat said, Mr. Trev, Mr. Conner, according to Madden, draft classes, USC safeties are generational players. All caps, just to reinforce it. Okay. Can we just see DTs? I don't want to reach too much on him, but like we got your boy Tim Keenan.

Would you consider him in 93 or do you think he's more of a day three guy? I'm easily taking Tim Keenan at 93. Are you? Okay. Dude, he is. When he's healthy, he's a difference maker. Not a pass rusher. Obviously, you see it right there. Yeah.

He's one of the best run defenders in the country. Yeah. And his grades are a little bit lower. If you're watching on screen, it's a, what is that? It's a 76.4th this year. But, like, he's been hurt this year. So I think we look at it. Didn't he have a tightrope?

Ooh, he might have. Yeah. Which that's what a Marius Mims had a couple of years ago. I mean, it's obviously just a high ankle injury surgery. Mm-hmm. You should, a little bit scouting advice to everybody in the chat. Always be careful watching a player. that comes back early from a tightrope surgery.

They are not. And Tim Keenan went underwent tightrope surgery at the end of August. Yeah. So I would lean much more into Tim Keenan's phenomenal 2024 film. And I thought he looked pretty good the other night, by the way. He did. And that makes sense that he is playing better the further he gets removed from that surgery, you know? Yes.

Yes. I'm okay with this because I think that he is, let's see. Let's see. Yeah, because they have Grady Jarrett, Andrew Billings, Gravon Dexter, obviously, but I can be into this. Chat point out, Billings is a free agent, of course. Been hammering that home.

A lot of love for Lee Hunter in the chat, by the way. I haven't done his, we, so we haven't done defense to tackle. yeah so I haven't gotten to the full I haven't gotten to the full scouting report on him I didn't love him as much as I think a lot of other people on social media and the timeline and everything do I saw him as more of an early day three pick but I only I only got to watch like

you know two games of him where I'm kind of speed watching it I'm not looking up his background I'm not looking up like advanced stats on him right trying to get a good feel for him where to put him on the board but I know a lot of people like him I just remember watching him I was like okay like I think this is a, I think this is a good football player, but I wasn't sure this is like a top 100 football player. I'm not, we're not going to draft big Christmas. They have, they have

tight ends already. We're not going to draft. That's got to be a big. People are saying linebacker. I mean, they have Edmonds and Edwards. Are they free agents? Are they, are they moving on from those guys? Was Edmonds hurt this year for a while? Why am I thinking that he's been Edward did he miss some time or maybe he was Edwards no yeah Edmonds was hurt for a little bit

he's played 11 games so he missed a couple what's Edward's at Edwards has only played eight games okay so they've had they've had linebacker injuries all year to both guys so you probably

do want another guy yeah God our chat is like having chat GPT you say something in the air and you get an answer in 10 seconds yeah amazing

Yeah, forget fearing AI, fear the addicts. Yes, the addicts are way more powerful than AI. Actually, the A and AI stands for addict intelligence. That's exactly right. I think you're onto something. Just like they're on to us. God, I forgot Ruben Hippolyte's been out there at times, which is insane. Ruben Hippelite was barely a prospect till he ran a 4-4 or whatever he did in a pro-day.

Yeah, who could forget. All right, you want to pick J-Rod? Yes, I admittedly am a Tim Keenan Stan, but it's... You go Tim Keenan over and Jake Rodry is. It has become clear to me that linebackers a bigger need. Maybe. All right, I'll let you make the call.

Oh, God. I'm gonna... See how I do that? See how I do that? I act like it's polite, but I'm making you make the decision. I'm taking Tim Keenan. Okay, all right. We're drafted Tim Keenan. We're eating beef. J. Rod's good, though, man.

Like, he's... I'm very intrigued to see how he tests. That's what everybody's scared of is the fourth. Yeah, that's the big problem. So Mike McCarthy doesn't love this draft, but only because I've got Tim Keenan ranked a little bit lower. Connor likes Tim Keenan a lot more than I do. Probably around this range would be very comfortable and confident with it very clearly.

We hate run defense. We've gone over this. Yeah, obviously. Air raid boy. Yeah, air raid boy. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Seven on seven. That's true.

That's the real way football should be played. Trevor Sykima in our facility. No, don't quote me. on that. That's not how I feel. Get a job, Mike McCarthy. R. Mason Thomas. Camari Ramsey. Tim Keenan there

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It was an anabolic uncrustable. So it's got a little more peanut butter than the normal ones. Don't worry. We have another ad break. We do have another ad break that we will get to here. All right, Tyler, let's spin the wheel. What's our third team here? Spending the wheel, spinning the wheel, spinning the wheel.

got the Miami Dolphins and Chicago Bears off the board. Oh, it's going to be a good team. It can be a good team here. It's going to be New England Patriots. They get all the luck. They get Drake May. They get Mike Vrable. And now they're in the first episode here of the Wheel of Mockdraft series.

The New England Patriots, fresh off of clinching a playoff spot here this season. Just, it's, dude, it's just so much. fun to watch his team grow. Well, look, if you're a fun, fan of an AFCE's team, it's probably not a lot of fun for you. But as a neutral party, it's a lot of fun to watch Drake May grow. It's a lot of fun to watch a player who you thought very highly of at the quarterback position in the scouting world become that type of a player all the time, which is great. Mike Frable's a hell of a coach and all your wolf's doing a really good job. Is their general manager building up that roster that was, oh, boy, bad a year ago.

two years ago, especially. So let's dig into it, three-round mock draft for a team that could be picking pretty late here. This is fun, actually. We've got a lot of teams that are picking a little bit later. So the Patriots are picking number 30 here in this draft. May, is your might go to anywhere specifically, Connor, right off the bat? I was hoping to get, you know, another pass catcher at some point.

for this team and they've done a good job as a committee obviously digs at the big night sunday but digs overall dude if it's if it's prime time dig is showing up man yeah he's awesome on primetime it's big moment so cool how much he shows up in big moments right but in this spot actually i think they need a pass rusher they do they need a pass rusher and depending depending what they think of carlton davis long term Right. Not next year, but the year after that, do you actually get another corner to play with Christian Gonzalez on the outside?

Yeah, because how old is? Carlton Davis? Yeah. I think he'll be 29 soon, I want to say. Yeah, he turns 29 in a week. So he's not that old. He's had a lot of injuries, though. He's been very beat up.

That's why Tampa moved on from him. Right. He was beat up. So that's one where you're drafting for one. year ahead rather than and you know corner's a high priority for this team yeah who they got behind them uh their corner depth chart charles woods so we're we're we're two letters off of charles woodson yeah not close that's close that's close not close not close enough that's close no they're thin a corner after after their starters dude you know who i want on this team is kiante scott

we're drafting kiante scott for this team it's something to be marcus jones's backup yeah and i mean jones is a good slot no i know i know but what's marcus jones contract i think they extended them oh did they maybe okay well maybe we're not going yeah a little three year extension yeah he's one of the best returners in football which helps get that deal as well okay damn all right yeah they extended them in season so yeah they did wow all right well he ain't going to work uh they definitely they definitely need i think more talent on the interior the offensive law well also morgan moses is up there too like right tackle isn't an answer

but the question is what do you get at this point of the draft man yeah let's see i think we're looking at past rusher corner outside corner wide receiver or O-line. I don't hate off-ball linebacker as well. Wow, Robert Spillane, a Razier? No, that would be for Christian Ellis's spot. If you wanted to upgrade there. I kind of like Joshua Joseph for them

because he's got more physical tools. Like, I don't feel like there's a lot of guys. guys who are pass searching for them who have a lot of like the physical tools that you would want well harold landry's getting up there harold landry's getting up there and like even landry what was hold on i'm looking up his uh i'm aggressively typing his numbers in here yeah he's 18th percentile in height 21st percentile weight 28 percentile wingspan 25th percentile arm like 19th percentile in hand size he's a really great athlete don't give you wrong but once that starts to go

a little bit more you don't really have somebody who can win off of like physical traits they drafted Braden Swinson who we love but apparently the league does not right that was weird

they have Anthony Jennings who's more of like a heavy handed dude anyways and then Caleb on Chase on who if they resign him great but if they don't you know I think that they would really need somebody there yeah They trade a Keon White.

Yep. So it's definitely a room that can use more talent. Hmm. I think that people are talking about offensive line as well. They talk about like Jennings Dunker here for them. How much do they run zone though? With McDaniels? Yeah.

That's a good. I'll look into the numbers this year because obviously it just changes so much year by year. Yeah. because, I mean, Dunker, I think they're balanced, but you know, you know I love Jannings Dunker, but he's, he's very much like a, you do have to run a good amount of zone blocking scheme stuff. Yeah, I don't believe he's playing right tackle, which is the big. No, no, no, no, I think he's playing guard. Right. And that's, but they need, they need a right tackle, I would say, prioritized. Yeah. I mean, you could kick him, you could kick him way no out to tackle.

They, they've run enough outside zone this year. like travion has oh yeah with travion there you would Trayvion has 31 outside zone carries which doesn't surprise anyone now they have more man carries for both Trayvion and Ramandre 50 and 44 but they do it

with because of course if you have Trayvon you're going to run outside zone I'd rather take Joshua Joseph's here let's do it I think he's the better pick for them I think he's the pastor's potential for him he is a traitsy type of edge rusher from Tennessee that I just don't think I just don't think that they have right now and if they wait too long to address it I think they might be in trouble even if they bring back Caleb on Chase on I could see

them having Joshua Joseph's in this rotation as well they're very clearly from what we saw last year they're going to emphasize the the positional important stuff until they are really really comfortable indeed so let's go Joshua Joseph's the edge rusher here from Tennessee. Meryl Mellahite would have been nice for them, too. He went two picks earlier there. Okay, round two. Let's see.

Jacoby lands on the board. Oh, Dalyne Everett's a decent optionate corner for them, the corner from Georgia. I think he, he's, he, his style is very similar in my opinion to Carlton Davis. So it's almost like you're just getting a younger version of Carlton Davis, which maybe that's what you want, right? Maybe you want to run it back kind of the way that you have it now.

I think Chandler Rivers. Can you click Chandler Rivers? I can't remember. Can you go to first look? What's his? Yeah, he is smaller. I thought he was smaller. He's tiny.

Yeah, he's tiny. I think I know who I want, though. Okay, all right. I would take Max Clare. Oh, Austin Hooper's on a one-year deal this year. They're going to play with two tight ends. So even if you have Hunter Henry, and Hunter Henry is no spring chicken.

Vrable's going to know everything about Max Clare with his Ohio State connections to the program. That's true. But what if they say he's cheeks? Then he ain't taking them. Yeah. That's what you got to think about. These are the problems.

No, tied in one, tied in one from summer scouting. We can't give up on him. We're not giving up on it. I don't hate this. I don't hate this game plan. I don't mind it. Let me look at their 12 personnel usage this year. Yeah, that would be interesting.

While I have you. Yeah. Can we see, can I see corners, Tyler? Julian Neal is interesting too. Just do it. Just Julie Neal goes 62. I think Will Lee is also a potential here. I'm not as high on Will Lee,

but I do think that he's had some good games to share. He's scrappy. slender scrappy kind of guy yeah your boy Xavier Scott but that's sort of the same conversation that we had about Keante Scott it's all gonna be on those

medicals and playing the slot yeah probably kicking in although I think Xavier played well outside when he was asked to I think he can do the Mike Stainer still thing where he's outside and inside but ideally you would like him to be inside can I see

offensive line here Tyler offensive line can we go Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Oh, yeah, this is what we're talking about here. Okay, so I am drafting, I'm drafting one of three, I'm drafting one of two players at 62. Blake Miller or Nicky Prongos. Yeah, because they could develop for you at right tackle.

Yeah. I think you have the right thinking. And to be honest with you, I'd take Prongos. Yeah, you really, you really like him. I didn't get to see him. When we did summer scouting, so I'll be doing my, he'll be on my rewatch of the tackles. I just think he's so, I think he's got so much potential. Is he going to accept an all-star game invite?

Because I'd really like to see him in an environment. I don't, no, I don't think he has to declare. I don't think he's a classman. No, no, no, no. He could very well be back in college football. Well, no, what year is he? Hasn't he just been sitting around for a couple of years? before he played oh he's a redshirt junior so he does he does have one more year to him he could

go back to be honest with you though i've talked about this before prongos to me is a little bit of the same conversation that we have with caleb lomu where it's like man all the traits in the world it's all there loamu is just a little bit further along than prongos is right i i genuinely think he has starting and impact potential i would take him here because the patriots are very clearly already good. So just take a player who could be an absolute home run for you. I would take him. Okay. All right. Let's do it. Taking him at 62. I like the strategy, right? Tackle was really standing out to me and you're taking a ball of clay.

We could make the chat the happiest they've ever been here in this Christmas season. It makes a lot of sense. By getting Justin Jolie off the board. It makes a ton of sense. Big Christmas. And Jolie, who can kind of play tight end, but also really be like a big slot receiver kind of player. Yep.

This is a Patriots team that they've run 12 personnel over 21% of the time. I think they would like to do it more. They just don't have the personnel to do it. The question is, can you click on Julie again, Tyler? Is he the blocker that you want him to be? No, and you shouldn't expect that if you're taking him. Hunter Henry is going to be doing the blocking, and Justin Jolie is going to be doing the rest of it.

out running. Okay. All right. All right. Yeah, people are talking about Bessontas as well. I like Besson. I think Bessontas is one of the best past protectors, like, of the guards in this class. I think he's, I think he is pretty underrated. I think he's a top one hurt player. Yeah, he's looked really good for A&M this year. And I've only watched broadcast of him, but it's, he stands out. And I think he's better. I think he's better than those grades. I do too. I do too. I do too. I think he's playing better. And then we talk about this every time. So I think Justin Jolie is probably an option here.

Maybe DiAngelo Pons, but more so Jacob Rodriguez. Jolie or Rodriguez, because you said you wanted a linebacker. Probably Jolie. Okay. All right. All right. Let's make the chat happy. We're three days to Christmas.

Getting the Christmas spirit, baby. Hey, there we go. Not bad. Not bad. bad. Mike McCarthy's hating on the potential of Nicky Prongos there from Stanford. Yeah, he didn't get that one. He called you. He's like, Trevor, who is this guy? Come on. 6-7, 315. Dude's going to be a starting offensive tackle in the NFL. You got traits with Joshua, Joseph. You got traits with Nikki Prongose. And you've got the

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folks. Glad to have you guys here with us just a few days before the best holiday of the year. All right, let's spin the wheel one more time. Wheel of mock drafts, baby. This is fun. I'm enjoying this. This is amazing. I know, I know, right up the flood. All right, we're getting a good team here? We're getting a good team? Oh, we get in the Jags? We get in the Jags? The Jacksonville Jaguars. Or our final team that we are, give you a three-round Mott draft too, the Jags could also be a team right in line with the number one overall seat. One of the hottest teams in football, man.

Outside of the Dolphins, we have had three teams that are really good football teams playing really, really well. And chat's pissed as hell. What? Piss this hell. The whole chat is just the F word, cowards, rigged. What? How is it rigged?

Rigged for what? It could be rigged. It's not. It's not. You're saying, you're saying, you're saying, you're. seeing that these teams don't need it. Yeah, but that was the whole point of what you guys were asking for. You're like, you know, over the last three years, like, hey, I know, I know my team, you know,

doesn't need a fixture franchise, but we love to get it. We're trying to make you happy. This sucks. Oh, my God. Tomatoes. It is funny because it is something that they have wanted and then they got it, but it was not how they wanted it, so they hate it. It's perfect.

I do that all the time. I didn't ask for something. I'm like, no, not like that. You knew that this was inevitable, though, because whoever the fourth team is whenever we do these shows is going to be the most hated team in the league. Because it's not going to be most of the people's favorite team. Let's dig into it.

They don't have a first round pick. This is going to be interesting. Going to be real interesting. Fire away. Let's do it. but damn, they still have four picks? That's kind of crazy. He's a second rounder and three third rounders?

Stockpiling third rounders. James Gladwell's in his bag. He's like a very evil villain style GM. I really like that about him. I thought you were just going to stop it evil. And I was going to be like, no, no, no, he's not an evil human. He's just playing one as a GM. All right.

So Jacksonville's team needs here. Let's pull up the free agent list. By the way, how good is Cole Van Lannin playing? He's a free agent. Dude, he's been unbelievable. He started at four different positions for them over the last month and a half. And he has like the highest PFF blocking grade for them. Sims and I were talking about today how nicely the O line settled in against a Denver front that is ridiculous.

And then you like, you really look at Jacksonville's front outside Anton Harrison, who's played very well this year, in my opinion. Way better, yeah. It's not as like star-studded household names grew, but they're well-coached, and they're given Trevor enough time and comfort in the offense. So, yeah, there's a lot to like with this roster as a whole. It's not an easy roster to draft for

because they've really built out a deep roster. And I like their front seven a lot, too. So Devin Lloyd's a free agent. I don't think they let him leave. No, you can't let Devin Lloyd leave. Travis E.N's a free agent. I think they let him leave. Because they like Bayshall Toon, and they could draft another running back.

And you could draft another running back. And of course, it's the year ETN. It's just all coming together for him. He looks healthy. He's catching the ball well. But that's nothing against Jacksonville. I mean, like, he'll be able to cash in somewhere else as a back. I think honestly, Jacksonville probably believes in their infrastructure more than just ETN.

Right. I would agree. So I agree with you. Monterec Brown is also a free agent to potential. corner knee there. Jacoby Meyer signed his extension, which is great. Van Lannin, I have no idea if they re-sign him at this point, because they have Walker Little, because what was Walker Little's, what's his injury? Or is he not injured? Concussion. He had a concussion. Yeah, yeah, yeah, okay. But that's not going to change anything for a guy like him that's under contract.

right so van the land is probably moving on so walker little is probably the guy for them i i think it was a concussion yeah yeah i think somebody in the oh somebody said don't forget about lequin allen as well like i just don't i don't think they're going to spend the money on um on travis etan to bring it back so you got a potential corner need although you're you're factoring Travis hunter in all this as well right right like yes you are is the reason they gave up everything they did to get Travis and not only that Jacoby Myers is awesome Brian Thomas Jr is better now that he's not not like the only one in the offense to go to. Parker Washington's a stud. Brent Strange has been fantastic for them. You're basically in a spot where

yeah, Monterec Brown's a free agent, but you could honestly just put Travis Hunter there at corner. You're not pressed into replacing him. Right. Exactly. And so now you have Jerry and Jones, you got Greg Newsom, you got Jordan Lewis, and you got Travis Hunter to play corner. I agree with Parkour in the chat. I've thought this for like a month. BTJ's, I think he's going to get traded this offseason. Really? I don't think he, I don't, there's just something not jelling there with Liam Cohn.

And then if you look at it next year, their pass catchers are Jacoby Myers, Travis Hunter, Parker, Washington, and Brenton Strange. That's fine. It's an interesting idea. I'm not saying it's definitely happening, but they have not meshed together this year. It's been more of a struggle than you've wanted it to be for sure. For sure. And you could still get a really good asset back for him. Yes, definitely.

So, yeah, somebody in the chat's like, what's his value? I know. They're not going to give him away. That's not what I'm saying. Yeah. They won't give. Yeah. I don't know, man.

Because I would not, by the way. I want to make sure. It's not something I would do. I'm just saying it feels off. I don't think they're going to do it because he'll have two years and a fifth year option. This is an interesting point that you brought up because it's interesting thinking about it. I don't think they do it, though, because I think they know that they're in a winning window right now. And they're not about to give up on that with a player who could matter a lot to them.

Specifically, a player who could matter a lot to give them flexibility with Travis Hunter. Right? Like, if Brian Thomas Jr. is good, you can play Travis Hunter at wide receiver, full-time corner. Like, you have total flexibility. But if Brian Thomas Jr. isn't on this team, I love Parker Washington. Jacobi Myers is awesome. Breton Strange is great. You still probably need to search for like that wide receiver one caliber player.

So you're probably playing Travis Hunter a lot more than you want to on offense if you wanted to play corner and you're moving on from Monterrey Brown. Just my thoughts. Yeah. No, I think it's fair. I think defensive tackles well within the conversation here for them at 59. I think Big Citrus and potentially the Godfather, depending on how much you like the Godfather. I would lean on the Big Citrus front of that.

Okay. I definitely like him for this team. Okay. That would be somebody that plays next to Eric Armstead and gives you a significant, like, run-down role kind of player. Yeah. Yeah, and then if you get a really like the, what you could add to is their interior defensive line

and you could add a safety to this group. And you're like, damn, I'm feeling really good about Jacksonville's defense again. Yeah. If Halsey was available here at 59, without hesitation, I'd pick him. but I don't know he's not No he's gone He went 53 Gosh he was close

It makes sense though He was close The mock draft simulator gets smarter Over the years I know Before you know Like the mock draft simulator We'll just control our lives

We work for the mock draft simulator Already does Okay let's let's take big citrus Let's take Dominic Goren's Really good run defender Big Body dude gives you a little bit Extra juice and pass rush from an interior spot as well So we're fixing that

And then 81. I mean, your boy Emanuel McNeil Warren is here. Really good year from Toledo. Really good athlete. Really good coverage grade. Where was the, I think we'll get running back with one of these picks. Yeah. It's just a matter of.

Have you started watching running backs yet? Because running backs is the next position group we're doing. I have. This week I've been, I started already watching Jamari Taylor again. I watched him over summer, but with him transferring to a bigger program and accepting a senior bowl invite, he's who I had to start with.

Yeah. So I've seen a little bit. I've seen, I feel like 10 running backs in this class so far. I'm kind of giving it away, but with these rankings here. But I like Seth McGowan from Kentucky. So he's somebody I still need to watch.

Yeah, he's crazy story with him, which we'll get it. into we had a we had a sorry to cut you off yeah we had a lot of emette johnson for big 10 this year so i've seen a pawn of him yep yeah yeah he's got some sweet feet man that dude can make you miss and it's really good yeah yeah l j martin he's got a ton of size he's sort of like a zach charbonnet type of a dude you know at it i think it's peak um okay let's let's i think Emmanuel McNeil Warren, because you said you wanted a safety, so I think that we should pick him. I love this player.

Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. All right, talk about him a little bit more. We'll pick him and then we'll obviously see him in a little bit. What you love about him is he's so physical up at the line of scrimmage, but he's played a lot of snaps also as a true free safety with some range and ball skills. So with Jacksonville, you look at the back end of their defense, it's kind of like, all right, what do we need him to do? And he could probably do it for you. I would like him playing closer to the line of scrimmage. I like the physicality.

He could bring us a run defender. He is one of those guys where, like, if he finishes a couple more plays, he'd be a turnover machine, forced fumble machine. I forget how many he's forced now. I think he's forced eight in the last three years, something nuts. Like, he's incredible at knocking the ball out. So this is a guy with the right DNA for this defense that you can move all around the field, which I know their defensive coordinator really likes.

Really quick, somebody in the chat, Wyatt said, we need Hollywood smothers in the simulator i just took him out actually because he turning to school yeah right is he's transferring i think yeah yeah he's going back he's not declaring um and then out here bomb alfrey alfie curtis uh asked where's desmond reed the the running back from pittsburgh i will talk about this a little bit more in the running back episode he is just going to be the latest test of like how small is too small because he's sick like he's he's five foot eight 175 pounds but he's he's he's awesome like it's impossible to watch his tape yeah you see him down there he's like right he's ranked 194 just because i kind of don't know where to put him when you watch his tape it's like

dude rules he's he's awesome yeah but it does there there are so many players like that that fizzle out in the NFL we so many i feel like we talked about him quite a bit over summer yeah like um because he yeah western carolina transfer i mean insane mistackles four straight yeah man just all receiving back skills. Right, right. Like he's, he's kind of like La Michael James was to me. But like even La Michael James didn't last a long time, you know,

like the Anthony Thomas, like somebody like that. But it's, those guys didn't last a long time in the NFL. So how high am I really going to draft those players? Yeah, I totally get it. A huge thank you as always to Peter, who keeps the lights on the podcast. Peter would have a $250 super chat.

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What are you talking about? We're literally buying the boat from him and his yacht selling business that he has that is simply just a tax shelter for him because of the other billion. industries that he owns. BC in the chat said Peter is secretly money laundering. What a scheme? That would be the Netflix stock of all Netflix stocks. An NFL draft podcast, that was actually just a money laundering business. Hey, we finally get on Netflix, you know? We finally get on Netflix.

They won't get us, they won't get us his content, but they'll post the documentary. Okay. Oh, you mean we're not going to Netflix? Nah, we're going to Netflix. No, I'm just kidding. I mean, hey, anybody out there who works for Netflix? you know if you want to pass something long we're interested just like you know we're not not interested we'll take the phone call yeah well at least listen we'll take the phone call

what were we talking about jackson jacksonville jackson bill they have big citrus and emmanuel mcneal warm i mean that's that is like a guys guys draft man that's pretty sick so now we're looking i i would like to get a running back eventually a lot of people in the chat really that are Jags fans shout out to Duvall really don't like Walker little all right which is funny to me because I've gone through a lot of phases with Walker little I didn't like him as a prospect I didn't like where they drafted him and then when he got extended I was like damn good for Walker little like things are going the right direction gave him the deal didn't they or no I can't remember was it bulky I think it was bulky oh but when you see that

you're like, God damn, they must have been in the building really like him. And now we're back to the fans not liking Walker Little. So is there a developmental tackle that we take here?

I mean, your boy Isaiah World. That's the definition of developmental tackle. Yeah. Yeah, let's see. They can't really. They can't really move on

from them this year, but they can the year after. Yeah, and you wouldn't want to start Isaiah World next year anyway. Yeah. I mean, I'm okay with that. And then what do we do with running?

Well, hold on, hold on. Wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait. I love Seth McGowan. I think he's sick. They're running back from Kentucky. Yeah. What's the story that you were going to say? Or you want to save it for the running back show.

You might as well say it here. So really quickly, he was a four-star recruit from Oklahoma and played well in his first year when he was a true freshman there. I believe it was after the season, or maybe it was during the season. He and I think it was two other teammates got arrested, and he was charged a felony of larceny and had to spend three months in jail and had a year of probation. And he was obviously kicked off of the Oklahoma team.

And he has since then been on a crazy football and personal journey. And he went from an NIA school to, I believe it was like a D2 school and then he got to New Mexico State. New Mexico State. He got to New Mexico State and then and then he was able to get to Kentucky. I think Kentucky was his next step and

I've listened to him speak. I've listened to press conferences about him. I know people within that Kentucky program they rave about him. About who he is as a player, about how talented he is, about who he is as a person, how he has grown, like all of this stuff. Like somebody who truly, who truly, like, embodies the phrase, it seems like, you really didn't know what you have until it was gone. And he has said that before.

And he's like, I, he's like, I lost football and I never thought I was going to get it back. And he was like, that was terrifying for me. And he has just, beyond the. story of him getting to this point in his life and back to this, he is incredibly talented. He is extremely explosive. He is going to be an incredible, I think he's going to test like an elite athlete. I think Jags are going to love him. He gives you decent yards after contact. But man, his mental processing, his footwork, his cuts behind man and gap scheme blocking concepts. I mean,

he is, I think he is awesome. Funny enough, I think one of the potential comps I have, for him is actually Travis E.TN because of how athletic he is. And I think that the Jags would be very interested in a player like this. The big downside for him is simply the fact that he is an older prospect, but he also doesn't have a lot of mileage on him as a back, despite being as old as he is. So he's got fresh legs at his age. I would draft this player in the top 100.

I think he's not good of a player. All right. Yeah. So. I'm excited to watch him now because we have. have obviously running backs coming up real soon. That's a hell of a redemption arc, by the way. Crazy.

Crazy stuff. That's a hell of a redemption arc. So, I mean, man. So let's take him. And then I can take, and then we can take Isaiah World with 100. Okay. Because I think McGowan might go before we get to that point. There we go.

There's Isaiah World. There's our developmental offensive tackle. Boom. There we go. For Duvall. Final team here on the, Okay, that's all right. Mike McCarthy hated everything you had to say.

I'm giving him a pass here because we have to update the back end because I just added him. So any player that we haven't updated on the back end yet for the processing part of it that doesn't recognize the player, it's just an F for them. So based on where he was ranked 80th and getting him at 91, this would probably be like a B plus type of a pick. So we're probably getting a B plus type of a mock draft result there. There we go, folks. Hopefully you guys enjoyed that. That was a lot of fun for us. The Wheel of Mockdraft.

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