NFL Stock Exchange: An NFL Draft Podcast - Week 5 NFL Power Rankings (Buy or Sell)

Episode Date: September 30, 2025

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Welcome to the opening Melody NFL Stock Exchange podcast, Trevor Sicken McConnor Rogers here for another power ranking episode. You guys liked it. You requested it. And so we're bringing it back here. Post week four, sort of.

We have a Monday night doubleheader that we can't factor into these power rankings quite yet. But maybe we'll talk about some of those teams as we talk about the movement up and down from what we had in our inaugural edition of the program last week. Connor, how we feel, my friend? I'm good, man. And kind of another week in the books.

It's a weird one, right? Because as much as maybe they aren't power ranking, you know, variables for the top of the rankings, the double header on Monday night will have some ramifications and some weird grouping. So, but overall, some upsets on week four on Sunday that, that, you know, the fun of this is, Trevor, like, how much of the upsets affect your power rankings? How much did they affect mine? Because last year, I mean, last week we talked about, hey, the Browns beat the Packers, but we still viewed the Packers a certain way. You know,

and I was sitting here saying like, hey, you know, I know the Ravens are playing tonight, but I don't, I'm not buying into the Ravens struggles. And the Ravens looked like a totally different team since I said that in these last two games. So it just goes to show you how quickly things can really changed this early in the NFL season when you're still trying to figure out what every team is right now. Yeah. So if you didn't listen to the first edition of power rankings that we had last week, the way that we go through these is, yes, we're going to give you in order our one through 32 power rankings of all the teams in the NFL. We'll use that as a little bit of a recap from what we saw this past week. We'll also talk about maybe where they

are up versus down versus where we had them last week since now we have some more episodes that we get to stack on top of that. But ultimately, we throw a little. We throw a little little stock market feel into it with buy yourself and we update the draft king's odds for the over under win totals on all these teams and connor we had a handful of them that change over the last you know week or so uh you know eight or nine days for some of these teams like you mentioned for the ravens we've had two games uh since then but we try to get the updated odds or for the overunders excuse me the monday morning that we're recording this and so um recording it a little bit earlier in the day this time around so hopefully actually this episode's out to you guys a little

earlier so hopefully you guys are enjoying that but that's the format that we're going with here connor like it did last week i want you kick it off my friend let's do increments of eight so 32 to 25 32 to 25 that's how math works go ahead we're very we're doing good we're doing good we're doing good listen man we unfortunately might have a basement dweller here at 32 i think the titans are in a league of their own i hope this changes I expected them to be better. Me too. Because I'm a believer in Cam Ward.

I thought this defense would be better. It just feels like, at least me personally, I underestimated how poorly this coaching staff it was going to fare. So, yeah, the Titans, they haven't won a game, but there's plenty of teams that haven't won a game or have won one game and that you could point out certain things that you have felt good about. Unfortunately, with the Titans, there's not a lot of that. 31, the team that might have the biggest mirage win of the year is the Carolina Panthers.

Oh, you have them at 31 too? Oh, so do I. I dropped them to 31 as well. It's what they do to the Falcons and they give you like an ounce of hope. And then you just get punked by the Patriots who had not really looked good leading up to this. And there's a lot of good for the Patriots in that game. But if you're the Panthers, if you lost, it's one thing because New England is a better team. than you, but you weren't even competitive ever.

30, the New Orleans Saints, who I have at 30, but are a very odd buy situation for me, Trevor. It's very strange. The rare third worst team in the NFL that you are buying, only on the NFL stock exchange, folks. Because in context, that we'll try to keep reminding people, but it is hilarious to say, if it was just clipped out in that sense, their win totals four and a half. yeah right now yeah and yes they have not won a game but i watched the tape of this game this morning and there are really good things about the saints right now against the bills against the bills again like they all offensively scheme wise performance wise kendre miller signs of life

offensive lines and signs of life i i'm a buy for the saints i think they there's a world way they can get to five wins but we'll see if the bar is so low I'm a hold for them at four and a half, but if I were to be giving a buy or sell, I would be giving a buy for this team. Like if we didn't have holds for this team, because four and a half, look, they're own four. They're clearly not going to be super competitive, but I do think the win total is either four or five for this team. Like, I don't think they're going to win two games. I think that we'll get a couple of wins here soon for the New Orleans Saints. So, this is, it, it, you are right.

I like this power ranking format and how we're doing it in terms of buy or sell. Because if we weren't, we would just be like, ah, the Saints, they're 30th. They're cheats. Like every NFL show, understandably probably does. Right, right. So that's why, that's why I like the buyer sell element of kind of what we're going through here. Because I totally agree with you. I watch the Saints every single week.

And I go, yeah, they lost, but I had fun, you know? Yeah, yeah, yeah. I've watched a lot worse. It was not the worst football that I saw this weekend. Spencer Rattler, I kind of feel, I feel bad for Spencer Rattler because, like, there's two sides of the conversation, right? If he was on a different team, would he get the opportunity to start? Probably not.

No. But it does kind of suck that, like, he's getting an opportunity in the NFL, and it's for a team that's very clearly just not there yet. And that, I can understand that part is frustrating as well. You have some rookies over the last couple of years. who haven't necessarily broken out the way that you want to. Obviously, Trevor Penning, Brian Briseed, like guys like that. But there are signs of life from this team.

And I don't think that Kellen Moore is doing a horrendous job. I think that he's kind of trying to make the most of the ingredients that he's been given. But I didn't plan, spend time on the Saints. But I just wanted to say, I agree with you. Like, I watch this team, and I actually think they're a pretty decent football team all things consider where their roster is. I think they could win two of their next six. They have the Giants, Patriots, Bears, Bucks, Rams, and Panthers.

Yeah. I think they can win two of the six. The problem is if you're on the sell side for the Saints, I would imagine your argument is, although they never do this, they should be selling off pieces at the trade deadline. They should be. Sure. But they have never given us proof that that's something they're willing to do.

They will be buyers at the deadline. Third round pick for a third corner. Like something just, something just ridiculous. It's so ridiculous. They're going to trade for Rieke Wollen. They're going to be the team that trades for Rikwollen. They're the team that trades for Rieke Wollin. That was it.

That was the one piece we were. Oh, my God. Here we come, baby. So Monday night football preview back to back, 29 the Jets, 28, the Dolphins. Okay. And obviously, and this is almost a, a corner. I know the Dolphins opened as a two and a half point favorite. I don't know where it's going to finalize.

The Jets are on the road, so you've built in a point and a half. So Vegas thinks the Dolphins are a point better than the Jets. I think that's totally fair. The Jets never play well against Tua and this scheme. So I had the Jets at 29. I have the Dolphins at 28. But if the Jets win with their schedule starting to lighten up, that would give them some momentum,

but they just haven't been able to close games. Yeah. Two of the three games, they haven't been able to close. Jets win this game, we're getting dangerously close to first episode of Ficture Franchise here in 2025, right? I mean, like, the Dolphins would, I got to think that we're getting close if they, if they go to 0 and 5 on the season, or no, that would be 0.4, oh, and 4, excuse me, if they go to 0 and 4 on the season and they lose it home to the Jets, like that,

you're starting, because they're over under for wins with seven and a half to start the season. And like we talked about on last week's episode, it's five and a half now. It hasn't moved, obviously, because they haven't played. But you are going in the wrong direction fast. And if they can't beat the Jets, man, there's, there's just not many teams that you look at their schedule and go, yeah, yeah, yeah, we feel good about that. I instead think they'll start to turn the page pretty quickly. Yep. I think if they do lose to the Jets on their home field, there's a good chance. They clean house, like instantly. There's a chance. So 27, the other New York team, the Giants get their first win.

Hey. Big win against the Chargers and Jackson Darts first start. I thought the defense played very, very well in this game. The team had new life. The crowd was really into it. It is awful that Malik Neighbors has a potentially torn ACL. So the Giants are at 27. That's only going to make life a lot harder.

But it was good to see this defense have some life. Dart gave them a lot of life on that first drive. Giants are at 27. 26, the Cleveland Browns, who I will talk about. Okay. And then just to close it out, 25 to Las Vegas Raiders, who they're a hold for me, but man, they are dangerously close to a cell. I'm holding because I love the gentie got going. But it's just, man, they have a lot of problems in the secondary and losing that game in that fashion is such a gut punch.

They were a six and a half when team to open the year, I believe they're at six and a half now. Yeah, they were at seven and a half last week. Right, they dropped this week, though, because of this loss. So I'll go quickly on the Browns, and then we'll get to your bottom of the bracket. The Browns right now have actually gained a game in their win total. They were four and a half before the year. They're five and a half.

Clap it up. Five and a half. Thank you, everyone. I hope you're all applauding in your living rooms or wherever you are watching or listening to the show. And it's a good time to remind you all if you are watching the show to subscribe. There it is. Boom.

to the show. Love that. Yes, take a bow, me. Cleveland Brown's at 26. Man, they are one and three, and the lions are on a war path because they've just been the most pissed off team in the NFL since their week one loss. But this defense has so much talent up front still. They do.

I just think the reason, and they're a hold. The reason I want to talk about them, Trevor, it's just, it's got to be time to start getting a look at some of these other quarterbacks. I don't really know the selling point of starting Joe Flacco is it's a veteran. He knows your offense. We have a two-time coach of the year in Kevin Stifansky. Can we surprise some people and go on a little bit of a run here? It hasn't resolved.

Did we get an explanation for the pick, the interception that he threw to Kirby Joseph on the sideline? The like pop-up? Yeah, like the 500 dead or alive throw that he was just like, yep. I think. So I watched it back pre-send. map and I think he just thought he had the matchup on a go and it was clearly no one else on the same page I but I also I don't know I'm not going to pretend to be in that room yeah I mean he just threw it up it was just one of the strangest plays of the week yeah and and

the year and that's true and the whole well we didn't even get to 80 Mitchell yet with the colts uh oh god the ad Mitchell experience we're on the ride folks sick catch. Fumble before the goal line. Hold on a Jonathan Taylor 50-yard touchdown run. I missed this play. I missed it live. And I was reading on Twitter that somebody was like, oh, no, like, A.D. Mitchell dropped the ball before it got in the end zone. And I was like, do we do this thing again where they do like the track. The Mackay Corley to Sean Jackson? They just throw up behind them before, which I get irrationally angry about, even if it's not my team that does it. It's like just. If anything, you would want to hold on to the ball longer, whatever. I think I'd hold the ball until I run into the padding of the wall, and then I would know I'm safe.

Like I'd run through the end zone, through the out of bounds, and I'd smash into the wall to know that I scored. Yeah, good, good. Dislocate your shoulder, but hey, hey, hey, hey. But I scored. You scored, and you held on to the ball. Nobody could ever take that away from me the rest of my life. But him running into the end zone, trying to put it in the other hand,

and then just like point into the end zone but dropping it is just the most gut wrenching way because again like you're you're hardly even celebrating right? Yeah. You're hardly even, you're literally just putting it in your other hand

and kind of like putting it up as you're crossing the line. But don't do that. I'm clearly, clearly. Like I don't really know what else to say just with the Cam's Gadamu, Tyler Warren two hands on it Like this, this is how you score every touchdown.

I don't care of a 80s football. A one yard. And then score. You have to tip your cap to Cam Scadaboo. He scores every touchdown like he's a fullback. But then as soon as he knows he's in, he's got the most bat shit celebrations ready to go on the MetLife turf.

He's doing back flips. He's doing dances. It's like Cirque Saleh. Like it's just absolutely nuts with Cam Scadaboo, but he makes sure he scores with both hands on the ball before he does. We're going to talk about. by the Giants when I go through my top aide. So we'll get more Camp Scataboo talk.

I just think the Browns, I really like what I see from Quinn John Judkins. He's running into loaded boxes. Yeah, they don't fear the passing game at all whatsoever. No. And Judkins is still productive and he constantly falls forward. But they have no fear for the past game. And I'm not saying that playing Dylan Gabriel or Shadur Sanders

is going to instill that fear in the opposition. But the bottom line is, and they use these picks on these guys. Like use a third rounder on Gabriel. you use the fifth rounder on Chador. You have this season doesn't seem to have much in the cards for you at quarterback. Start getting a look at these guys

because the reality is you might be bad enough that you are picking high enough to take a quarterback in the next draft and that's a conversation for our stock watch on Wednesdays when we review the quarterbacks again. But you have to know. You can't go into December

and be like, you know what, let's get a look at Gabriel. He wasn't really great for three games. Let's get a look at Chador for a game. Oh, we're picking third. What do we do? Yeah. That's not a good process. So it's almost time. I think at the very

least, the very least, you're starting one of these guys after the by-week in week 10. At the latest. Now, you're not going to make the change to one of them this week because you play in London against the Vikings next week. So they're not going to make a change this week.

You could make a change the following week, but then you still have the travel back. It's a little bit different. So then you're playing Pittsburgh at Pittsburgh. I think week seven, when you're hosting the Miami Dolphins and then you go to the New England Patriots, I wonder if one of those two weeks in week seven or eight is when we go to either Shudur Sanders or Dylan Gabriel. I think it has to be because if Gabriel is bad for a couple weeks or looks in over his head, you could use the buy to get Shador ready.

I don't think they'll do that. Let me make that abundantly clear. But at least it builds in a process that you can do that. Yeah. Yeah. I just think, I agree with you, though. It's coming. It's got to be coming. So, all right, that was your 8. Tennessee Titans are at 32 for me. This is the worst team of the NFL, and it's not close. You're right. There's not really, they're in a tier of their own right now. Cam Ward, I love this afterwards. Cam Ward after the game, and I quote him, says if we're keeping it a buck right now, we ask. We owe and four.

At this point, we got nothing to lose. We dropped the quarter of our fucking games, and we have yet to do anything. So we have to lock in. That's what you want your franchise quarterback to say when you are absolutely ass. And he is not wrong. Cam Ward, the whole reason why you drafted him, obviously he's a great talent. But he's also genuine. From everybody that I know from the Titans organization, like, they loved this kid.

Love them. Not only was it not a debate, like, talent-wise, of what they were going to do and what quarterback they were going to pick. There wasn't even like any sort of, you know, back and forth conversation at all once they got to meet this dude. And that's the key. Remember how it changed? We were at the Combine and it was like,

hey, the Titans might trade the first overall pick, blah, blah, blah. They might take Abdul Carter. They might do this. They might do that. They go through the entire Combine process. And all of a sudden, it was an undoubtedly selection of Cam Ward. And that is, and that's why. So on this show last week, we were talking.

a little bit about Brian Callahan and since we talked last Monday he gave up play calling duties to what was it the was it the wide receiver coach like it wasn't even the offense coordinator I thought it was the quarterback's coach the quarterback's coach let me check coach it might have been the quarterbacks coach yes I think Bo is his first name Bo something Bo hard agree hard agree he's the quarterback's coach so I mean you give it to him because he had somewhat of play calling experience before and it's and I remember on the show I remember, what? Sorry.

It's just, this is the result. It's like, yeah, we hired a truck driver because he had some experience before. He might have crashed the truck off the road, but we hired him because it's just like, that's just a tough sell. Especially when you're 0 and 4, it's a tough sell. Like, you almost might as well just go to, anyways, when we were on here, I talked about how I would be shocked if they were thinking. about getting rid of Brian Callahan.

But then I said, I sort of said that from like the whole reason of why you hire him. But then we brought up the fact that this is the most penalized team in football. They seem incredibly undisciplined. They're not taking steps in the right direction. And now you get in a point where he's giving up play calling. Spoiler alert. He didn't do that voluntarily. The offensive-minded head coach who wanted to come in and call plays and every, like,

He's not doing that voluntarily. They're making him do that. This is a you are on your last life. And we are sitting here with them being 0 and 4, just got shut out by a not great Texans team right now. I think I'm with you. I don't, I don't. If I had to, if I had to bet on it,

I don't think Brian Callahan is coaching this team next year. I really don't. I don't think he's, I don't know if he's going to survive this throughout the season. Yeah, yeah. So they are a sell for me. So the Titans are a sell for me. And the Titans are a sell for me at a three and a half updated over under win total.

Oh, my goodness. They went from five and a half to three and a half. They don't think they can win. And let me be fair to Bo Hardigree. He was the interim offense coordinator when Antonio Pierce took over the Raiders. So he was coaching Aiden O'Connell that year. He really did what he could in that situation. So I do want to be fair to him.

But this feels like a situation. where it's going to be tough to overcome. Carolina is, they're 30, they're 31 for me. Titans are 32, Carolina is 31 for me. They're five and a half over under wind total right now. This is a sell for me. They were six and a half to start the season. Now they're five and a half.

I'm still selling this team. I don't know how much faith this organization has in Dave Canales at this point. Or anyone associated with this? team. Yeah, I mean, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's kind of hard at this point to have a lot of faith in what Caroline is doing because like, yeah, they've dealt with some injuries. They've gotten unlucky, but like every team does, man. And I'll tell you, I'll tell you what I think the biggest issue is, is I haven't gone back

to, to watch the all 22 of this past game specifically. I don't think Bryce is the problem. Like, I don't think you, but is it the solution? No, well, okay. It's hard to tell. But that's, that's, that's sort of a different question. here. The reason why I'm bringing it up in that light is because I don't think Bryce is like the reason why you're losing football games. That's basically what I'm saying. You know, if you want to say

like, oh, they should have picked Stroud, whatever. Okay, fine. But Bryce is playing at a level that can win you football games. They just can't run the ball. They can't defend over the middle. Their corners are up and down. They can't get after the passer. Their receivers are very inconsistent outside of Tetrow and McMillan. They don't really have a lot of depth in that category either. They were supposed to be a team who's able to be able to run the ball pretty effectively, and they just are not at all whatsoever. I think that if you could point to Bryce Young and say, we mess that up.

Okay, maybe you all still get canned because you pick the wrong quarterback at number one. But I think that's a different conversation. I think because Bryce looks okay, now you kind of have to look at the coaching staff and you have to go, do we have the right guys in the building on the coaching staff? Because right now it just doesn't feel like it. It really doesn't. And I felt like it was sort of a risk when they hired Dave Canales

because it was his first year as a full-time offense coordinator with the Buccaneers. He hadn't called plays before that season. So he's sort of like a one-year guy in that regard. Well, he wasn't sort of. He was. And even with the Buccaneers, like it sort of took them a while in the season for them to really get their groove going. I thought the turnaround that Liam Cohen had and the identity that he was able, able to instill within the Buccaneers in his one year when he was

offense coordinator was much more quick and how should I say this like he understood how to get the best out of that Buccaneers roster quicker than Dave Canales did. Right. So I was always a little skeptical of like, all right, I mean, they're taking a chance on Canales and I just don't know if he's that guy for this job. And I just, I don't know if he's going to survive this man. I really don't, because the Panthers, outside of division games, which it feels like you can beat anybody in your division any week

because you know the opponent really well. Outside of playing the Titans, I don't know who gives Carolina a chance against basically any other opponent in the league. That's how I feel about this team right now. Playing the Falcons again. But that's what I'm saying is divisional teams. Right, right. Outside the division. I mean, and that includes New Orleans, obviously,

which we talked about there, but like even these teams who I have near the bottom, like the dolphins, the Raiders, the Jets, the, the, the, the Texans, the, it's just, I don't have to take all of them over the Panthers. I would take all of them over the Panthers at this point. Yeah. Panthers just have not shown me anything in terms of consistency. And they have a last place schedule, so, right? Or were they third, either way, they have a very weak schedule. No, they had.

They were last place, right? Yeah, they had to be. So, yeah, like they're going to play a lot of these teams. They're, they're about to play the Dolphins. They're about to play the Jets, the Saints, the Saints. So I guess they get to prove it You get to prove it And if you can't even compete with those teams

Then it's yeah It's over So I got the Jets at 30 Have them at 5 and a half Nothing's changing from last week Because obviously they haven't played yet I got them as a hold New Orleans Saints

I have them as a hold Like we talked about at number 29 Dolphins I have them still as a cell team At 5 and a half But honestly like I guess that could be a hold It just depends on what happens On Monday net football Have them at 28

Raiders 27 Their win total like we mentioned went down one so they're at six and a half i have them as a hold i think that's right around probably what they're going to win six seven games 26 houston texans uh six and a half again for them is they're over on they're updated over under win total which went down one from the previous week that's a hold to me i was a sell on this team but now i'm a hold with them right around six and a half wins and then i have and then i have the giants at uh at 25 um and i we can we could just sit and we we could just talk about the giants here uh as this last team

they're at five and a half. I kind of think that they're a hold. So Jackson Dart very clearly was what this offense needed. And they needed to go to Jackson Dart, whether he was quote unquote as ready as you wanted him to be as a passer. Because one, they were at that point in the season with Russell Wilson where there was just no spark. There was no point in putting him out there anymore just because you knew that you weren't going to have a chance in most games, unless he throw 500 yards like he did in week two, which is obviously an outlier at this point. but the tempo was there with Jackson Dart.

It felt like the energy just from like every point in the team was up from him, which they needed that. The thing that gets me worried about Dart is he carried the ball 10 times in this game. And we've always talked about Brian Daibble sort of having that rushing and passing dual threat quarterback type of player because we feel like that's how he can operate best as a head coach. He's doing that with Dart. and he's leaning into DART's athleticism in that regard from, you know, not only the play calls, but also what I'm reading in the quotes afterwards,

how much they liked him getting involved in the QB Rush game and all that kinds of stuff. And obviously he was successful with it. Got a handful of first down. It's got a touchdown doing that. But he also tweaked his hamstring. He got kind of banged up in this game. So my question is like, is this sustainable? Right.

Like, is what you... I mean, he got the snot knocked out of them. clearly want him to do is that sustainable for him. And he already exited that first start with a little bit of a hamstring injury. Now we'll see how sore he is and where he is on the injury report going into this next game. But clearly the New York Giants are a better football team and more explosive football team. You have more faith in this offense with him out there, which is great to see. Malik neighbors, Tarrant his ACL is truly a bummer.

Like that's, it's just, I don't know how else to say it other than you had the offense going in the right direction. and Dart was giving you sort of that jolt of energy, that jolt of life that you were really looking forward, and then your star wide receiver might be out for the season. Like, there's no other way to say it, but that sucks. That absolutely sucks. But I think that what I'm going to monitor moving forward with this team is, okay, you came out of the gate and you won,

you know, when no team had any sort of tape on you or how the offense was going to operate when you were the starting quarterback. Now they've at least got a game out there, and every week that goes on, that's more tape the teams and defense coordinators around the league have on you and what you're going to do can you stay one step ahead can you stay healthy that's the thing that i'm looking forward to see him from the new york giants yeah me too i mean it opens up things for them for sure but like you said what you have to keep an eye on is

protecting this kid almost from himself but you also can't do that because that's what makes great players great so it is a weird conundrum brian dable press this button because he needs to save his job but you also just hope they were responsible enough that you know once again they protect the kid from himself a little bit with this being a with this being a draft show i will shout out abdul carter great game from him elite passers grade um drew phillips also excellent in this game big bounce back week for drew phillips and that's you know that's it's just playing corner right and i i do think yeah you're gonna look i do think that a lot of people forget that you're not going to be a shutdown secondary every single week.

Like it's just not going to happen. Even the best have some weeks where they falter and you go, whoa, what happened? You're playing in the secondary. It's tough. You've got alien quarterbacks you're going up against every single week. The league is so good at moving the football through the air. And so as long as you have that potential to play at a very high level and as long as you get that two-thirds of the time, to me, that signals you've got the right guy at a secondary position. safety, whatever it is. I think asking these guys to be Dorel Revis or, you know, like sauce was in

the first two years of his career. Like that is, that's not the bar. That's something that you just appreciate for the outlier that it is. But I noticed that just around, you know, like even the Packers, the Packers, when they played the Cowboys this past weekend. Like, they didn't look great in the secondary. Like the secondary looked like was a reason why they, I almost said lost, tied, unfortunately, that game to the Dallas Cowboys. But you just, to me, it's not like a, oh, wow, the sky is falling for the Packer secondary. It just kind of is what it is.

It's just a very up and down part of the game. So I felt, bringing that back to Drew Phillips, like Drew Phillips are really talented corner. And as long as he's got this stuff in him and you see it from him most of the time, 60, 70, 80% of the time, whatever it is, you can have games that he's, you know, down a little bit and still feel good about who he is on your team. All right, 24 to 17. Yes, indeed.

Patriots are at 24 for me. They are a hold. They're like the most hold of all teams. Their win total was 8 and a half. Their win total is still 8 and 1 half. And they're 2 and 2. So, I mean... There it is.

There it is. The Patriots. Obviously, really good signs from the offense in this game. You just, you want to see it. You want to see them build on it is what you want from them. Use the Panthers, hopefully, as kind of like a get-right jumping point. like 23, the Houston Texans who, yeah, we brought them up, like nine and a half win total before the season, it's down to six and a half, it's gone down in a week, they're one and three.

I'm still selling on the Texans, even after this performance, just because the way they have built their team offensively, I think it's just very hard to compete with the above average, and they were expected to. So I just don't think the line's good enough. Everything has kind of been, and hopefully, once again, like this can be a jumping point for them but I the point of this show isn't to just react to what just happened the point is to kind map out how you view it moving forward 22 the Cincinnati Bengals uh they're a hold for me they're playing on Monday night football so you know once again we won't talk too much about the teams

that have a pending game ahead of them 21 the Arizona Cardinals are a sell for me they are at eight and a half for a win total they're two and two I think I said they were a sell last week when they were two and one because I haven't found either win very impressive. I credit them for getting back in this game against Seattle, but it's kind of what I said about the Jets the previous week, where you only get so much credit for mounting a comeback in the fourth quarter when you were outplayed for three quarters. Sure.

And then you lost anyway. Sure. If you win the game, you get all the credit. But when you're so drastically outplayed for three quarters, like it's hard to really give a ton of praise to a comeback that falls short. Yeah. And Arizona, you know, they're without James Connor right now. It's good to see Marv get on track in that second half after a brutal first half.

But I don't know. There's just a lot of things that I have said. That first cat, yeah, it just can't happen, though, man. It can't happen. Because, like, you, Kyler is very inconsistent as a quarterback. So when he makes throws that are juggled into an interception, it feels like it just sinks you. It's what you need those plays. And I agree with you.

And just a, where did you have them at? 21. So I haven't met 20, but they're down four spots from where I had them last week. I agree with you, though. Like they went down and win total down to eight and a half from nine and a half. I agree with you. I think this is sell team. If I'm buying or selling anything, I'm selling the Arizona Cardinals,

because the exact same thing that I said to you last week on this show, I don't trust them. I don't trust this team. On the weeks that Kyler shows up, Marvin Harrison Jr. is not going to show up. On the weeks that Tray McBride shows up, Kyler's not going to show up. On the weeks that Tray McBride and Marvin Harrison and Kyler show up, the run game and the offensive line is not going to show up.

It's like golf. They're the golf team. Something's going to be wrong. Oh, I could drive today. I could chip today. I have three putted every hole. That's the Cardinals. That is the Arizona Cardinals.

Yes. Yes. 20, the Minnesota Vikings, two and two in a hold and still at eight and a half. This is the point where, like, is quarterback play, It's one thing to say quarterback play could sink this team because McCarthy wasn't very good and Wentz after a cupcake win

reverted back to like chaotic Wentz form. But Trevor, what concerned me is how easily they were moved off the ball in the run game. Against a Steelers team that hasn't been running the ball against anybody. Yeah. They were just, they were moved around.

So that's something that they got to correct real quick or this will turn into a cell. 19. And I'll stop at this one real quick. The Cowboys, who are down to six and a half as their win total from seven and a half. They are one, two, and one. They're a hold, but the reason I wanted to stop here was,

I think it's time to give Brian Schottenheimer a little credit with this team right now. Because the disastrous defense to me, I don't know how much you put on him, right? I get that you were in charge of the staff, but you're not coaching the defense. And you are not the owner that traded away Mike Apart. So Brian Schottenheimer's sole responsibility is, one, getting the most to have an offense right now that is without their best player in C.D. Lamb. He has Dak playing out of his mind.

He has George Pickens about to get a $30 million a year plus contract with how good he's been. They have Giovante Williams totally, like, reinvigorated. I mean, he's salvaged. He's UNC Jivante again. They're playing with backups on the offensive line that are absolutely passing the eye test. Brian Schottenheimer was almost a punching line when he got this job. He deserves all the credit in the world. The fact that they're one, two, and one,

and they feel like they can compete week in and week out is because of him, because everything else is a total letdown for him. Yep. So he deserves a lot of credit right now, man, and good for him. It felt like a huge tie for the Cowboys in this game. I mean, it felt like a huge tie, but to be honest with you, like, I walk away from that tie feeling as though the Cowboys won that game more than the

pack of me too I thought the same thing so I do agree with you 18 the Chicago Bears 2 and 2 win total is down to 7 and a half or um because it was 8 and a half before the year but let me make sure I have that one yeah I want to make sure I had their win total right so the bears survive on a blocked field goal. The Raiders are going to play up to teams even being a little shorthanded, it feels like in certain position groups. So for the Bears to finish

that game on a great play, it feels like they had a tick of the long snapper. They knew that he, I saw that they knew he moves the ball a little bit right before he snaps, so they were able to jump the field goal block, which is very good coaching and good preparation and a good sign for the Bears. What was the, was it

the hand opening part? Was it that? Or, because I don't know. Greg Olson talked about that in the Steelers Vikings game. I can't. Oh, no, it was the Vikings kicking an extra point? What was it? I can't even remember if it was an extra point or a field goal. Anyways, I think it was an extra point.

It must have been. They got a penalty for actually moving the ball. The Vikings, he pointed it out, and this is great by Greg Olson, where he's like, Olson is a master class. He's a must watch audio. They will look at the center and then they will flash their hand, and then that's when the ball was supposed to come. But he flashed his hand, and then the center waits a second.

Jalen Ramsey comes off the line of scrimmage because he's trying to time the hand. Yeah, yeah. So it could have been something like that. Yeah. 17, the Steelers, they are also a hold for me. Preseason win total eight and a half, current win total eight and a half. The positive for me with the Steelers in this game, even though Greg Olson, rightfully so, was just shredding into Mike Tomlin's cowardly decision-making.

which was inexplicable in this game and why I'm I am not buying the steel I think the Steelers win eight games this year maybe they win nine the point of the Steelers this year was to increase their ceiling and I'm just not confident in that they've done enough to do that but they're three and one and the big thing in this game is that they finally generated movement in the run game they finally were pushing people off the ball I think Kenneth Gainwell is one of the most underrated committee backs in football feels like every time he gets an elevated role he's able to hold the fort no matter where he is. So, but, you know, when obviously when Jalen Warren's back, that'll be up to him,

that'll be on him to, you know, take on the role in this backfield that over Gainwell. But the Steelers getting some push was big. Tomlin's decision making, oof, they get out with a win, which is all the matters. But it just felt like it was way harder than it had to be again. Always is, man. I have them lower, I have them lower than this because their margin. as a team is so small. It's just so small because of how they play offense

and the coach. When Rogers gets hit, like the time he ran and fumbled, you kind of, you kind of like tighten up when you're watching. A hilarious play. He's like, look at the old man, go! This is crazy! And then he gets like smashed and the ball goes eight feet. It's like, whoa.

But then the O-Lyman jump, or I think it was the O-Liman. Somebody jumped right on it, but then like the camera is still wide enough to where like Rogers is laying on the ground and he's like, he's just like signaling first down after you just got blasted. Totally nuts. Which is very funny.

All right, so that was 17 for you? Yeah, 17. Okay. So 24 through 17 for me. I have Cleveland at 24. They were at 24 for me last week. I think that they're a hole that at five and a half wins. I like them as a buy last week when they were four and a half.

Now they're five and a half. They're sitting here at one and three. We're kind of to the point where I go, all right, Cleveland's not one of the three worst teams in the NFL. That's why, you know, we have them ranked where we do. I have them at 24. But I don't know how much higher I can put them than this

until they start scoring points. So it's been great to see their rookies play really well. You know, the big concern for me is the Brown's offensive line. And we talked... It's been a concern for us. I was about to say, like, we've talked about this for months now, months.

Whether it was for free agency or we figured that it was going to be in the draft. Like, they had to draft an offensive lineman, and they did not at all. And this is one of the least effective offensive lines in the NFL now. It's an older offensive line. The best players on the offensive line are the veterans. It's Joel Botonia and Wyatt Teller, but they're not playing at the Pro Bowl level they have before in their career.

They're older. Right. They're like 33, 34. With injury history. Yeah. So they're 24 for me. I like Cleveland has been a good surprise so far, but in order for me to put them higher, you've got to probably put one of those rookie quarterbacks and see what they got.

I have the Patriots of 23. I don't really know what to do with the Patriots at this point. I like the win this past week against Carolina was great, but I've talked in about Carolina being one of the worst teams in the NFL. If they're ranked 31, then I don't know how much credit I could really give you. Now it was great to see them bounce back. And what I specifically liked about this game is one, they took advantage of Carolina's inability to cover over the middle of the field,

really picked on the linebackers a lot, which I liked from Josh McDaniels. I like them recognizing that and being able to do that sort of on command this week. And then also they ran the ball really well. They had three guys who averaged over four yards per carry. That's how you bounce back in the run game. So I do like that from them. I still just don't exactly know what to think of them yet. I think they're very up and down.

So I have them at 23. The Steelers, I have at 22. So I have them lower than you. And it's just because like eight and a half win total. They're sitting here at three and one. They're a hold for me because I think a world exists. and this has happened with Mike Tomlin teams before when they start to lose the floodgates open what was man what year was it where they just went on like such a cold street to end the year and it was almost like

it was almost like everybody in the world was sort of like see we told you this was coming and a lot of people I know you talked about like getting a win is all that matters and I totally understand what you're saying because a good part of that phrase is true but projecting them moving forward I just, I don't look at the Steelers with a lot of fear if I'm an opponent. Rogers has to get the ball out of his hands extremely quickly. The Vikings really just were not on their peas and cues on defense. And they let up, I think the Steelers passed for like 199 or 200 yards in this past game. 152 of them came after the catch.

ZK. Meckham. Right, and one of them was that massive D.K. Metcalf run. And you go, okay, this is what I always tried to do. I don't say, like, oh, well, if you take that play out, don't even take it out. Just make it a good game. Like, if that D.K. Metcalf pass was a 15-yard pass. Like, if he got 15, 20 yards after the catch, that'd still be a great play. But it's not the, like, catastrophically blown play that the Vikings have that changes everything.

What else did the Steelers do in this game? Like nothing on offense. On offense, right. Won the turnover battle, or the turnover battle, which is great. Obviously, they ran the ball a little bit better, but I don't know. I just, I know Steelers fans aren't going to be happy with me for this, but I just don't have faith in them to beat a lot of teams in the league at this point, still, from what I've seen.

The Bengals I have at number 21, obviously playing on Monday Night Football, sort of where how they play this Monday will determine kind of where they're at. can they be competitive next week's power rankings right i have the arizona cardinals at number 20 had them as a cell team like we talked about there i just still cannot trust this team they're very much the golf game of NFL teams um which by the way uh great showing from the u.s rider cup team on sunday nothing happened on saturday and friday didn't watch uh didn't even know it was going on friday i didn't even i thought the event was only on sunday and i saw us play really well uh you know way to represent the country boys love to see it um

Um, the Chicago, they also went full Cardinals. They gave you nothing for three quarters and then gave you a comeback that amounted to nothing. They did. Yeah, unfortunately. Cargles fans, I'm sorry. Chicago Bears, I have them at number 19. Uh, they're up to from where I had them last week. I'm still buying them now at two and two with a seven and a half win total this season.

Falcons, I have at number 18. Um, they're, they're two and one on the year. I have them as a hold, you know, two and two. Or sorry, they're two and two on the season. excuse me, I just think the Falcons are going to be a team that are going to be very up and down every week, right? And we talked about this last week. When they're rookies on defense play well, this team can win football games. When they're struggling because they're rookies and they're just going to struggle, they're going to lose. And it's not going to, I don't think you'll look as bad as it does with Carolina, but, you know, they got the kicking woes, which they're still trying to figure out. Just the way that you look at the Falcons this year is very, very volatile. And that's why I think they're just, going to float around sort of this middle of the pack for me this season. I have them at 18 right now after that two and two start. Vikings, I have at 17. I have them as a hold. I don't really know what to think about the Vikings because I like the coaching staff a lot. I like their

roster at times. Obviously, they've got to get things figured out at quarterback. I think Jordan Mason's a good running option. Their passing attack should get better as they were getting a little bit more healthy. And that includes when JJ gets back out there and hopefully plays better than he did in the first two weeks. The tough part with the Vikings right now is sort of you mentioned. it like this they struggled on the defensive line this past week and they struggled on the offensive line as well like offensive line was a big issue as they were trying to account for some of the injuries that they've had along the offensive line so banged up until we get a couple more weeks here where maybe we get the clearer picture of what the story is in the trenches for them

because that was a big reason why I was so bullish on them going into the season is because the additions and the changes that they made in the offensive and defensive trenches but if if they're going to be up and down there or if they're not going to be a solid as we thought, then I kind of have to keep them around this middle of the pack, even as a team that I picked to go to the Super Bowl before the season, because I thought that they were going to be incredible in both trenches, and that just hasn't manifested yet. And then obviously the quarterback ups and downs as well.

Washington commanders, they're two and two on the season as well. Over under win total. Oh, wait, that was 17 for me. So the commanders are 16. So I was getting ahead of myself there. Well, sneak peek. There we go. commander there

16 the Atlanta Falcons for me I agree with you they're a hold for me because the win total is now eight and a half and I don't I can't sit here and say they're a buy because it's hard to project the ninth win but there there was a lot of good in this game notably from everything on the offensive side

of the ball the protection in front of pennix was good the results came he was throwing decisive lasers pretty much all day it was as accurate as I've seen him honestly it was just laser after laser Zach Robinson had a much better day after a probably a pretty tough week at that facility where they they fired their wide receivers coach they're moving Zach Robinson down from the booth uh there was good balance they would attack outside the numbers and then there was times where the commanders would sit in this soft zone and pennix

went back to the middle of the field and the wheel route to bejean was so sick it was just they got to utilize them more man bejian They just, they've just got to utilize that so much more than they had the first three weeks of the season. It was good to see them get him heavily involved again like that. Great week for the Atlanta offense. I just think that's a harsh wind total to set. If it was seven and a half, I'd buy. And it was seven and a half before the year.

It's now eight and a half. The commanders at 15 for me are a sell, Trevor. And here's why. Their win total is still nine and a half. I understand Jaden Daniels is not lost for the year. He's going to be back. I totally get it. But I think it's bigger than that for this team to get to 10 wins.

Their next six are the Chargers, Bears, Cowboys, Chief Seahawks, Lions. That's a tough stretch here. Holy cow. I know that. Wow. I know. Right. That's bad.

It's awful. So I, I, the sneak peek just said I had them at 16. I had them as a hold at nine and a half simply because of the Jaden Daniels. factor, but you saying that, I'm changing that to a sell. Yeah, I'm selling, you know, I think it's just going to be very hard for this team to get to 10 wins this year. Because it's not even the quarterback part of it, right? I mean, like, Marriota's fine.

It's not like the quarterback plays catastrophic and Jaden Daniels is going back. It's the secondary. The secondary is getting torched. That's the thing. You can go through all their injuries to try to blame things that are short term. I don't think the secondary is good enough in the long term. No, it doesn't feel like. healthy so it's not like they have a lethal pass rush like yeah the teams that have questionable

secondaries try to make up for it with a lethal pass pass rush uh 14 for me the denver broncos are an obvious hold they are playing on monday night then 13 for me jacksonville they're also a hold they're three and one their win totals eight and a half they are closer to a buy for me as much as they're a hold i pick them to win the division this year it's going to be it's still going to be really challenging because there's a team ahead of them on this from this division, which is, you know, pretty jarring. But I'm a believer in Liam Cohen and this team and leaning into Travis Hunter just playing on offense.

Yep. I think that was a much smarter move for them this week. Yep. Uh, 12, the team they just beat, the San Francisco 49ers, they are a hold. Their win total is still 10. Wait, you get the Niners one spot ahead of them and they just beat them? Yeah, but they're still three and one. The Niners, man, you just,

wonder how long they can survive the war of attrition right now. I mean, they were without Brock Purdy for a while. It seems like Iook's nowhere close. Kittles out. You're always worried about McCaffrey. Jawan Jennings could barely ever practice. You lost Nick Bosa for the year. Do they add, I don't know if you saw this, but so they're a sell team for me as well. Just, you know, Yeah, they're really close to a cell right now. Because they're three and one, which is obviously good for them to have the three wins. But they're over under, it's 10 and a half. That's my problem.

They've got to win seven more games. The schedule is a joke somehow, but not a joke, but it's been lighter. Yeah. But still. The boss of being out for the year is tough because they did so much this offseason to get run stuffers in the building. Right. Mikel Williams. He's not a pass.

I mean, obviously, like, he can give you flashes, but we know what he's good at right now. He is a run-defending defensive end, C.J. Big Al Collins. Alfred Collins. C.J. West. These are run-stoppers. You got run-stoy, and you said, we got Nick Bosa, and now we got run-stoppers. Well, now you just have run-stoppers.

They had zero sacks. They recorded zero sacks. I think for the first time, they didn't record a single sack in a game since, what was the last game. Anyway, I don't want to mess it up, but it's been a long time. They recorded two total pressures in this game and a 19.5% team pass rush win percentage. The middle number ranked 16th this week was the Carolina Panthers with a 43.2% pass rush win percentage. The Niners had a 19.5. Not even close. I'm not even sniffing the quarterback. that's what partially makes them a sell for me at ten and a half.

That number at ten and a half is just it's too much for me, given everything that they've got to overcome still with the injuries. Yeah, it feels like they need more from, they're going to need a lot from Bryce Huff. He had three hurries on 24 pass rush snaps, which is a 21% win rate. Like Huff is fine, but your first round pick had two hurries on 29 snaps.

It's a 3.5% win rate. Like it's kind of feels like, okay Mikel Williams like you got to get going here yeah and that might be a lot to ask of him right now but yeah the Niners are a very weird one and guess what they play the Rams on a short week on the road not a deal so not I do uh 11 for me is the Baltimore Ravens wow so do I so do I have them at 11 I just don't know how we got here they're one and three they're winter here's the thing with the Ravens and why they're a hold.

They're not a cell. Despite how bad things have been compared to expectations, can you believe their win total is only dropped to 10.5? They are one in three. It's because they have Lamar. If you have a MVP quarterback, Vegas is going to be so slow to drop your win total. Right, because you could just go on a run

where you just simply don't lose. So they have, The Texans, Rams, bears, dolphins, Vikings, Browns, in theory, the Ravens could rip off a five-and-one stretch here. But they have problems right now. Like, this team does not defend the run very well. They're flat. Connor, if they rip off five-and-one, which is so hard to do in this league, if they rip off five-and-one, they're just six and four. So you almost have to.

They're a sell team for me simply because I'm not saying that they're like a pushover team or they're one of the worst teams in the NFL but they're a sell for me at 10 and a half wins because you think my preseason bias is showing brother I can't I feel like I can't let the Super Bowl I pick them to win the Super Bowl I'm struggling so hard to let them go and man it's looked so bad but that's that's it's it's it's because where the Raven struggle is so hard to believe they are. at least they were going into this past week. I don't know how much better it's going to be after this week. I haven't checked. They were dead last in run defense grade as a team. And they were dead last in EPA per rush allowed. Like this defense, and now, what, Roquan left the game, Nate Wiggins left the game, Nandi Madibuque is on IR already.

Right. Like, this team's going through a ton of things. injuries, it's just, it's not, it does not look like the Ravens that we're used to seeing. It really does not. No, it doesn't. And it hasn't seemed like a great year for Marlon Humphrey. No. Right now either.

And you need your great players to be great. So, oh boy, we'll see where that one goes. Number 10 is the Indianapolis Colts, who are up to a nine and a half win total. Almost an optimistic loss. Like, I think the Rams are one of the... 100%. I think what the Rams are one of the best teams in football, pretty clearly. And there's every argument the Colts should have won this game.

Every argument. We talked about what happened with Adonai Mitchell. Now, they didn't, and the Rams are the Rams with Pooka and Akua just going nuclear. And when Matthew Stafford needs to make a big play, 2-2 Atwell is just running around. It's like totally nuts. But the bottom line is, I think the Colts need the show they can have. with a big dog like one of the biggest dogs and they did so nine and a half's a big number but i'm a hold with the colts feeling kind of bullish on them right now there are certainly times

when i completely agree with you a team can lose and you actually feel better about them that's exactly what happened with the indianapolis colts they lost they lost this game and i feel better about them as a team as a whole because of how they played they're going all the way out in L.A. It's a road game. You're playing one of the hottest passing attacks in the NFL. Zaven Howard, I thought, was terrible in this game. And, you know, again, like this, it happens playing corner. I don't mean for, I don't mean for this to sound like harsher than it needs to. But he was targeted 10 times in this game, gave up seven receptions, 112 yards, and a touchdown. He gave up six first downs. I mean, if Zaven alone, if Zaven Howard alone played

half as bad as what he actually played. Colts probably win this game. They probably go into L.A. and beat the Rams. So I was very, very impressed about how this team played. I mean, the AD Mitchell fumble out of the back of the end zone. Mitchell also had a holding call that, like, negated a long Jonathan Taylor run. I think it was 50 yards. Yeah.

So the Colts were right there, man. I agree with you. I mean, they're nine for me. They're a top 10 team. I think the Colts are. after this game I feel more confident telling you the Colts are legit

than I even thought a week ago so yeah they I totally get you having them nine I think my 10 and 9 are total coin flip here nine is the Seahawks for me my last my last team here they're a hold because they went up to nine

and a half now which is a lot but my biggest thing I want to say about the Seahawks is is they sit here three and one when it's time to close out the game and Sam Darnold has had a really good game stop taking the ball out of his hands. They could have closed out this game

against Arizona easily. It felt like three or four different times. Sam is making every play you've asked of him. He's making plays you didn't ask of him off script. And then you can end the game and you just hand the ball off on third down. I just don't understand. Like Seattle needs to almost embrace being a good team

that has a quarterback. It's like they haven't embraced. They kind of came out of the gate like, okay, we're a solid team, but we're going to keep the training wheels on at times. I think for this team to reach their ceiling, and I have them nine, so I've been very, very impressed with Seattle and what they're building there. Let Sam Darnold try to go win you some games or close out games. That would be my number one thing.

And if they start to do that and he proves it right, like what I'm saying here, right, then Seattle can win this division, especially what we just talked about with the Niners. He has played not win this division because of the Rams, but be like in, in it till the end of this division. Right. No, no, no. Look, as somebody who had the Seahawks winning this division, go ahead. No, no, keep saying that they can win the division. I agree with you.

I don't know. I mean, would you be shocked? Obviously, you wouldn't be, but like, it's amazing that, yeah. But I just, I don't like the fearful, the fear of Sam making a mistake anymore. Right. No, it's fair. Arizona should have never had a shot to win this game. I'll talk a little bit more about the Seahawks because they're one of my teams that I have highlighted.

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16. I have the Washington commanders. We talked about them a little bit. They're down three spots from where they were last week. I'm just getting worried about this defense overall. I'm kind of looking at this team and this roster and I remember going into last season and it was the defensive side of the football that I was a little bit skeptical of.

I felt like they had some good firepower. Obviously, Jaden Daniels as the season went on, it just proved how incredible he was. And the defense actually played well last season with the commanders, but now we're sort of seeing the opposite side of the coin. We're okay. This group played well last year.

All right, well, are some of those worries that we maybe had before the 2024 season rearing its ugly head with some of the secondary inconsistencies, some of the lack of speed that maybe they have in the second level at the linebacker level for as much as I think they've got high IQ play with Frankie Louvo and Bobby Wagner is some of that speed lacking for them. They don't really have that difference making pass rusher. So I'm just worried about the defense side of the football to where you. you can even tell me, all right, well, hold on.

Whoa, whoa, whoa, Jaden Daniels is coming back. All right, this is good, obviously. But a nine and a half win total is a lot for this team. And I'm just a little bit skeptical of them right now, so I got them at 16. 15, I have the Dallas Cowboys. Where did you have Dallas? You had them a little bit lower. Did you have like 20, I think?

Yeah, I'll pull them up right now. I think I had them 19, but let me make sure. So they tie the Green Bay Packers. But it's a tie that kind of like felt like a win, especially when you don't have, especially when Micah Parsons is on the other team. and C.D. Lamb's not playing in this game. Yeah, everything was stacked against them. I mean, I am buying them at the six and a half over under win total that they have been updated at.

It was five and a half. Now it is six and a half. It's a little tricky with the tie thrown in there now. It's always weird betting over under win totals when there's a tie involved. And I think Vegas kind of knows that. But the fact of the matter is, the reason why they're at 15 for me is because if Dak Prescott is playing like this, I don't think you can count Dallas out. like look I thought you put it perfectly they're not quite there yet when it comes to their pass rushers they're still dealing with some injuries kair ilam probably shouldn't be a starting corner in the NFL right

I mean like but outside of that Brian shot and I'mer doing everything that he can I mean you gave up your best pass rusher and you're starting a corner that shouldn't be starting in the NFL at one of your outside spots like yeah that's gonna that's that's gonna hurt every single week and yet Dak without C.D. Lamb with offense of Lyman injured. I mean, he looks phenomenal, man. I have such a hard time betting against Dak when he looks this good and when he has looked this good throughout his career. So I got them at number 15. There are four spots from where I had them last week. 49ers are down four spots from where I had them before. Like I said, I think they're a sell candidate at the over-under win total of 10.5. You still can get that if you're

listening to this. I just think they've got too many injuries that they're trying to overcome. I mentioned I'm really worried about this defensive line and the lack of pressure they're going to be able to produce without Nick Bosa. And I just think it might be an uphill climb for them, even with them still sitting there at three and one after the loss to the Jags. Speaking of the Jags, I have them at number 13. They are up seven spots.

The Jags, dude, they might be the Tesla stock of this exercise where I feel like I will go look at Tesla's stock and it'll be like, oh, Tesla's down 45 points today. Like, oh, Tesla's down like 10% or like something insane. And then the next day, it'll be like, oh, Tesla's up 11% today. Like, it's just, it's the most high volatile stock of the ones that I follow in the Magnificent 7 for everybody out there who's involved in the stock market. it's just it is just so up and down with what they do and I feel like that might be the Jags this year where when it looks good you want to be all in baby you want to be this is going to the moon the stock is soaring and then when it looks bad for the Jags you might be

see I told you the roster's not there yet they're not like they're lacking talent all this kind of stuff but this week it's a good Jags week and you know I think they're running the ball extremely well. We talked about it on this show last week, how good Liam Cohen is is scheming up great running, great run schemes. He did that in Tampa. He's doing that now in Jacksonville early on. I think the defense is playing really well. And I love that they're diversifying their offense. You know, it's not just Brian Thomas Jr. It's not just Travis Hunter. It's Britain Strange. It's Hunter Long. It's Parker Washington. It's Diamie Brown. It's a lot of different guys that they're throwing the ball too.

So I like the Jaguars. I'm in right now on them. They're seven spots up. And I think they're a buy at three and one with an over under win total of eight and a half right now. Denver, obviously on Monday Night Football, I have them in number 12. So not much movement there for them because they just didn't play this week.

Ravens, we already talked about them a little bit. They are down seven spots for me from last week. And I'm selling them at 10 and a half. I just think that they're two beat up right now in the defense side of the football. Man, it's hard for me to think that they're going to be that much better as a run defense team, especially for the injuries that they've faced. The Seahawks, I have at number 10. I'm believing in this team, man.

I've got so much faith in what Mike McDonnell is doing, especially on that defense's side of the ball. And I'll tell you, the way that they are utilizing Devon Witherspoon makes me really excited for when Nicky Menwari makes his, I don't want to say he makes his debut because he played in week one, but he played in week one and he hurt his ankle and he hasn't played since. I'm excited to get him back out there because I think people who listen to this podcast know that I wasn't the biggest

Nicky Manwari fan in the draft. Connor, I can't remember where you had him ranked if you were super skeptical of him, but I was, I'll pull it up for you in a second. I think I had him, I think I had him like in the 60s or something.

And there were a lot of people who were like, no, no, no, I mean, 48th. Okay, so we were, I think we were lower than consensus on where. All you heard all draft week was that he was the first round. Not only that, but like top 20, like you've got to pick this guy,

defensive chess piece, everything. And I was like, I mean, maybe, but he's got to go to the right spot. But when he got drafted by Seattle, I was like, that's the right spot. There we go. And the way that they're using Devon Witherspoon right now is how I think they want to use Eman Worry,

where I don't know if you caught this, but like, Witherspoon does a lot of his work in the slot, and he does that not only because he's a good cover corner, but also because that allows him to roam and sort of like go where he. They can be a disruptor. They can put him down almost like as an edge rusher at times from that slot position. There were a couple of plays where he's at the second level as the weak side linebacker.

Devon Witherspoon weighs 181 pounds and they have him as the weak side linebacker because he's fearless and he's flying around everywhere. If you do that, but then you have Nicky Manwari doing it and then you can kick Witherspoon to play as the outside corner. I know, there's been some talk about, you know, Rieg Woolen maybe on the trade block or whatever. Like I just, I'm really excited for where this team could go. I think the ceiling is even a little bit higher. They're even a buy candidate for me at nine and a half. So it's a, it's a bullish buy, I think, to buy them at nine and a half right now. But I love where they're going.

And then I have the Colts at number nine sitting there with a nine and a half over under win total as well. We already kind of walked through the fact that even with them losing to the Rams, you got a lot of faith in where this team is going. And a nine and a half over under win total. And they're already sitting there at three. and one in the first four games of their season. I mean, they look fantastic. It's a division where they're at least getting like one more against the Titans.

And then Houston Texans obviously don't look great on their side of things either. So I'm buying them. I'm buying them at nine and a half. I think it's a really good football team and I think they're only going to keep going up. Yeah, I'm with you, dude, all the way. 8 to 1? All right, 8 to 1. Let's do it here.

Eight the Green Bay Packers. they are a 10.5 win total of 2-1 and 1. They're a hold for me, but here's why. This defense is legitimately on fraud watch, legitimately right now. But man, Trevor, their next six are soft. They play the Eagles on November 10th, but besides that, it's Bengals, Cardinals, Steelers, Panthers, Eagles, Giants. I mean, okay, maybe you get into a dog fight against the Steelers.

Rogers gets up for that game, right? But Bengals, you're a better team than the Bengals. You're a better team than the Cardinals. I think you're a better team than the Steelers. You're a way better team than the Panthers. You're a better team than the Giants. So, like, I can't sit here and sell the Packers when I truly believe they're going to win at least four of their next six, potentially five.

But that's not the point with the Packers. The point of the Packers is this defense good enough when they go play the Eagles, the Cowboys. Like, the secondary just seemed lost in this game. Yeah. And it was their worst game, no question, from the secondary. But that was the concern coming into the year for Green Bay is the secondary right now.

They have speed up front. We know when Mike is rolling how great he could be. But it just feels like, there's such a better ceiling in here for them and you're kind of like, okay, it was just a bad showing where I'm just on hold right now.

I really am. Obviously, Jordan Love can go out and win any game. Like, he's shown that time and time again. He has that kind of talent. Josh Jacobs is just a battering ram. They even got Emmanuel Wilson involved in this game. And he runs really, really hard.

But yeah, I'm a hold on the Packers. It's 10.5. Like, yeah, they should win 11 games, but they could win 10. Tampa Bay Bucks at 7 for me are also a hold because their win total is still really high because of this division. It's 10 and a half. They're so banged up, but they are trending in the right direction with health. It's kind of amazing they found a way to get themselves back in that game against the Eagles with how bad it was. Yeah, well, I mean, look, you can't get a block punt for a touchdown against the champs.

you're not no especially when you're not going to win you're wounded as is so you're not playing with your full strength team to yeah to overcome that that was a game that was a game that was a game where i i i might my opinion on the eagles has not changed the entire year they're one of the most talented teams in the NFL they can absolutely win the super bowl again but i think that the margin for error for them is much smaller than what it was on a game by game basis last year and i think this game was another you know piece of evidence toward that. They block Tampa's first punt, and they return it for a touchdown. You're already up seven nothing. To the Eagles credit, they really played well and were ready for the

pressures that Todd Bowles was dialing up in the first half of this game. Now, in the second half, Bowles in the Bucks, I think, completely adjusted, and the Eagles couldn't really handle it. So the Eagles... No, they couldn't do much anything. I don't think the Eagles completed a pass in the second half. I don't think they... completed a single pass in the second half of this game. And that's how Tampa is able to march back the way that they are. And so like this is a game that at the end of it, I go, hey, Eagles, big one on the road. Huge win for them to go up in Tampa and beat a coordinator and a coach that kind of has their number in a way where a lot of teams, well, basically no other team in the NFL does. So it was a great job by Philly to be able to do that. But I also thought that given Tampa's, honestly, special teams woes. And then, the injuries that they're going through, this was a similar situation to the Rams and the Colts to me, where I leave this game and I go, yep, two good football

teams, two really good football teams. They play 10 times, they probably split. So that's sort of just how I felt about that game. So I can understand where you're coming from there. Number six, the Kansas City Chiefs, who I'll circle back to in this group,

they are a buy for me. Five, the Rams, they're a hold. Four for me, the Chargers, they're a hold. Just a tough game for the Chargers. didn't really take away anything overly concerning from it three the detroit lions who i'm buying on now yes the winter the thing is it's a weird one because i bought them heavily everywhere when the wind total went down to nine and a half now it's up to 11 and a half so i'm not going to sit here and say i'm just pouring more stock into 11 and a half but it's more of i just believe i fully believe

in this team sure and the week one mirage gave everybody the elite chance to buy the dip now the market has overcorrect like 11 and a half is insane for any team this point in the season right but the point is the lions are who we thought they are and there was a little chance there to get in on a on a just a ridiculous dip the bills at two they're hilarious because their win total is 13 and a half and like you really shouldn't be afraid of it they're just unchallenged yeah with this schedule with this division they didn't even play their best football against the saints defensively and it didn't really matter that much. One, Philadelphia Eagles,

I'm not moving the Eagles from the spot. I've said before, what I love about them is they win football games in every different way. They know how to win football games on any of the three phases. And you talked about the blocked punt setting the tone yesterday,

even in a game where they didn't do anything in the second half throwing the ball. The Chiefs, I will close on of my group, totally different team with Xavier Worthy. Yes, yep. The way they could, The way they stress the defense horizontally and vertically with Xavier Worthy speed showed me that, like, man, when Rashid Rice is back, the chiefs are going to be a problem again. And that's why I'm buying.

The fact that their win totals, 10 and a half, it was a preseason 11 half. So you're still getting a discount because they're two and two. I think Mahomes looks awesome this year. He really does the way he's moving. Obviously, you got to see all the throws yesterday. I think they're only getting stronger over time. And the Chiefs are a team that if they have to make a move at the deadline, I think Veach will make a move at the deadline to shore up some of their shortcomings.

But man, it just goes to show you when they're not playing so short-handed on offense, how dangerous they can be. And they're only, once again, they're only getting more reinforcements with Rashid Rice. So I am buying the Chiefs right now. Like, you just can't kill them. Every time you think they're dead, they're like a starfish. They just grow another limb. And it's the time to get in because this win total will jump back up to its preseason

11.5 before you know. Yeah. They're, um, this, the offense looked to the way that it is supposed to this past week. Like schematically, how it's built. Yes. It was, it was so much more in line with, I think, what they were planning for this offense to be. Now, weird to say this about the Ravens.

Ravens are one of the worst defenses in the league right now, especially at making the hard things look easy, or even the easy, easy things look easy, honestly, just from like running the ball and everything. I just, the Ravens are playing so poorly right now on the defense's side of the football. Part of me wants to just see the chiefs continue to do this in a game where, you know, I mean, let's face it.

You're playing the Ravens, you're playing Lamar. It's in Arrowhead, and the loser of this game goes to one and three. There's basically zero lack of motivation in this game. Like, this is as close to a playoff game as the Chiefs were going to get in the month of September. So them getting up for this game and playing their absolute best, not really is surprised me. I'd like to see it because I'm a hold at the 10 and a half mark for them because I want to see them continue this sort of of offense down the road. But like, you are totally right.

The second, the fine folks in Las Vegas, Nevada can move that number back up to 11 and a half, they are. So. The fine folks. Yeah, I mean, like, you know, I got to, you know. Only the classiest. You know, I've got to give them, you know, got to give them their shout out there. If you are bullish on the Chiefs right now, you should get on this number at 10.5. I, this is kind of just a big year of me for the Chiefs to say, like, I'm kind of

just going to sit back and watch like i'm just going to sit back and enjoy the show but like you said if you are if you are bullish on them in any way shape or form you could very easily convince yourself that this number is going to go to 11 and a half sooner it's the lines right it's the lines of two weeks ago basically like you buy now or you're just opting out entirely because you don't want to if yeah you don't want to be buying 11 to half win total all right so i'll get to my top eight in a second before i get to that you know there's some things the school doesn't teach it right like how to handle the financial world or you know having a plan to make you successful for the future later that includes about your kids fabric makes it easy for you to set up an investment account for your child and now

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um i actually picked on the pff show for the giants to win that game outright nice call yeah i mean i kind of felt like the offense with dart was going to be so different than it was with russ and for as much as you go, like, oh, it's a rookie, as long as you don't think he's going to crap his pants, then you instead just have a talented quarterback who there's no tape on, none. And I think that that means a lot. And again, if you don't think that the quarterback is just not going to look ready for the moment, well, then all of a sudden, I absolutely think the more stress is on the defensive coordinator.

Because all of a sudden, you got Jackson Dark coming out here running RPO's and QB powers and all this kinds of stuff, and the defense coordinator is like, all right, didn't see that on tape. So you just, you don't really know what you're doing. So the first drive was just that example of that.

Exactly. So I think the charges are fine, Joe All high ankle sprain, right? From what I saw, it wasn't anything that was like season ending, but obviously not great with him and Ray Sean Slater now out at the tackle spot. So I got the charges at seven. I still think they're a really good team.

So having them as a hold at 11 and a half of a win total. that 11.5 number is a high one. Buccaneers at 10 and a half of a win total. I have at number six down one spot from where they were last week. I got the Rams up one spot at number five, 10 and a half win total. I think this is a buy for me. I'm buying the Rams now at 3 and 1 at that 10.5 win total. I thought the Rams could have been a candidate as a team to not make the playoffs this year,

but when I said that preseason, it's because I had a lot of unknown about Matthew Stafford's back. Anytime we get that much chatter and that much mystery around a back injury with a quarterback who's well into his 30s, I get nervous. But he doesn't look like he is hurt at all. Instead, he looks like he is playing at an MVP caliber level. So I am buying them over 10 and a half at number five here. Detroit Lions, I have them up four spots this week. I have them at number four, that 11.5 win total. You mentioned I think that's a hold.

You're right. I think the buy opportunity was last week. when it was at nine and a half. Now, 11 and a half is, who, that's a big number. But really good football team at three and one. The only team that has beat them, the Green Bay Packers, I still have the Packers at number three. I think the Packers are, I think the Packers are riding a roller coaster right now.

I think that right before the season, trading for Michael Parsons, the high that was there, opening up the season at home, defeating the Detroit Lions, just all of the hype was just, they were just on cloud nine, and now they're coming off of it a little bit. I think the truth of this team is, that they're a really good football team, that it's a little bit more volatile than you want a Super Bowl contender to be, but one whose ceiling is still as high as anybody in the NFL.

So I am still on the higher side of things for the Green Bay Packers, knowing that it is a long season ahead of us. They're over under win total dropped one from 11.5 to 10.5. I kind of think that's where they're going to be. 10, 11, 12, something like that. And so I have them as a hold for now. If I was going to be anything on the Packers, with me obviously having them as number three in my power ranking, I would be a buy at that 10 and a half number. So, again, I'm officially a hold on them, but could absolutely change that to a buy if I'm really buying in on what that ceiling is, which I think is still there.

Philly, I still have a number two, like I mentioned, it's a team that, uh, I, I, you mentioned it. They can beat anybody in a variety of different ways. I get a little bit nervous about this team with the margin for error a little bit smaller than what it was last year, but it is still. absolutely one of the best teams in the NFL that are defending chance for a reason they could absolutely repeat their over under win total went up from 11 and a half to 12 and a half now there are a hold for me in that regard but they are up one spot to be in that number two spot my power rankings this week and then the buffalo bills at number one currently 4 and 0 undefeated 13 and a half over under win total that's a hold for me they lead the NFL Connor in average time of possession

the team just just there is no team in the NFL that in poses their will more than the Buffalo Bills right now. And I think that's the part that makes them really scary is we talk about Josh Hound, we talk about the offensive line, we can talk about, you know, the potency of the passing attack and all of that stuff. But James Connor continues to be on fire, eight straight games with a rushing touchdown. That is what's most impressive, is that when the Buffalo Bills need to ramp it up and beat you in a 40 to 41 shootout, 40 to 42 shootout, whatever week one was, I can't remember

what the final score was, they can absolutely do that. When they need to slow down the game and salt things away in the run game, they can absolutely do that. I would be terrified to play this team because of how much control they have when the ball was in their hands. Not just score points, but score points in a manner that serves them best, taking up however much time they want, whether it's 30 seconds or whether it's 13 minutes. I know they haven't had to drive 13 minutes long, but you know what I'm saying.

This team is so, so, so good. so i got the buffalo bills at number one and they were without spencer brown i know yeah like that's what's it's right it's just kind of emphasizes the point and i know he's his presence was missed but still he's going to be back and it's just they're even more dangerous it's ridiculous damn good football team uh okay give me your 32 to one real quick then we'll get out of here all right the titans at 32 the panthers at 31 the saints at 30 the jets at 29 the dolphins at 28 they have monday football tonight. 27, the Giants, 26, the Browns, 25, the Las Vegas Raiders, 24, the Patriots, 23, the Texans, 22, the Bengals, 21, the Cardinals, 20, the Vikings, 19, Cowboys, 18, the Bears,

17, the Steelers, 16, the Falcons, big bounceback week for Michael Pennix, 15, the Washington commanders who they beat, 14, the Denver Broncos, who are on Monday Night Football as well, in the doubleheader, 13, Jacksonville Jaguars with a big win over number 12, the San Francisco 49ers, 11, the Ravens who are plummeting down these rankings. 10, the Colts, who did a lot of good in a loss against the Rams. Nine, the Seahawks, eight, the Green Bay Packers, seven, the bucks. Six, the Chiefs, who I'm buying on right now. Five, the Rams, four, the Chargers, three, the Detroit Lions, two, the Buffalo

bills, and still at the top, the Philadelphia Eagles. I got the Titans at 32, Panthers at 31, Jets at 30, Saints 29, Dolphins 28, Raiders 27, Texas 26, Giants 25, Browns 24, Patriots 23, Steelers 22, Bengals 21, Cardinals 20, Bears 19, Falcons 18, Viking 17, Commanders 16, Cowboys 15, 49ers 14, Jaguars 13, Denver Broncos 12, Ravens 11, Seahawks 10, Colts 9, Chiefs 8, Chargers 7, Buck 6, Rams 5, Lions 4, Hackers 3, Eagles, 2, Bills 1. We'd love to hear from you guys as well. Any thoughts on the format as we're now two weeks in a row? Anything that you would like to see new or added or a better way to talk about these conversations? All suggestions are welcome.

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for the 2026 NFL draft. We're going to be going through all of that good stuff and I'm going to be updating the mock draft simulator as well, which if you guys don't have a PFF plus subscription, by the way, NFLC 25 that say you get 25% off a PFF plus subscription. And the reason why I bring that up is because I'm updating the MDS big board, the predictive big board, which has, I think, 470 players on it now. So you guys can do as many seven-round mock drafts as your heart desires if you have that PFF sub.

So if you don't have one yet, now's a great time to get one because it's a year-long subscription. You can use it during draft season as well, we know you guys are going to use, but do it by, if you don't have one, NFL is E 25, it gets you 25% off right now. So why not get it right now, get that extra discount count and get that 25% off? Connor, anything else before we get out of here? I think that sums it up. I got to get cranking on this big board, man.

I've been slowly hammering away, but I'm watching tape on a lot of new players that we've been. I know. It's, you know, I don't want to miss anybody. It's been a wild amount of change. I feel like this year it's just weird summer scouting this year

a lot of the players that popped on summer scouting tape felt like they got off to a slow start and there's been a lot of new names that have totally popped in the first month of the year and I'm trying to balance like overreaction and not

like look at like here's the perfect example who got off to a slow start now is nuclear look at Jeremiah love right now yeah I mean there's guys like you have Caden Proctor out here getting wide receiver screen but it's going to be a lot of fun man i'm i'm pumped for you getting back to kind of like the meat and potatoes of our show this year more than any other year i've watched a lot of new guys before

i've gotten to what our summer scouting rankings where i think i've over the first four weeks i think i've added 40 new names wow to my top 250 and that's simply because like their new players standing out so much more than a lot of the guys that we mentioned during summer scouting so exactly there's a good chance that the top 50 that we talk about on Wednesday, there's going to be a lot of new names that weren't in our summer scouting top 50, not just because they didn't make the list, but because like they maybe weren't even on the radar at all. And we get to talk about them and they might even crack our top 50 now. I'll tell you what hasn't changed. Our number one wide receivers have gone off all the time.

Mackay Lemon for you and Jordan Tyson for me. Every single week, those guys are just putting on superstar performances. I mean, just a little bit of a sneak peek in the teaser. I've got Tyson at wide receiver one now but that's but that's not because i moved lemon down like lemon is still right outside of my top 10 but tyson tyson's had some plays where he you you watch it and you go that's an nfl wide receiver one like that you don't even have to you don't even you barely even need imagination you just need the jersey swap that's it he's doing all the stuff that you would think of wide receiver one of the NFL is doing so that's a little bit of a sneak peek of kind of what we'll be talking about on wednesday very excited to get to that episode hope you guys

in for that. For Connor Rogers, I'm Trevor Sycamam saying thank you guys so much for once again watching and listening to the NFL Stock Exchange podcast. See you guys on Wednesday. You know what I'm going to be.