NFL Stock Exchange: An NFL Draft Podcast - Week 9 Stock Watch: Trinidad Chambliss, Haynes King, Denzel Boston and MORE

Episode Date: October 29, 2025

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Oh, you knew that was going to be the cold open. You just knew it. Clip farming. Welcome to the NFL Stock Exchange podcast. I'm Trevor Sink of it. That's the cold open master himself, the chef. Connor Rogers. Actually, the true chef is the one who actually edited that time of cook for us.

Mr. Cook. Our fearless overlord. What's up everybody? Hello to everybody who's in the chat for this episode of Stockwatch here on the program is we're going to go through a little bit of a quarterback carousel from what we've seen in college football over the last couple of weeks. We'll give you some stock up players. Of course, we'll give you two names at the end of the show that are going to be brand new

to the PFF Big Board that you guys haven't heard before. Excited to get to those. Alex in the chat. The chat was on one already, which, all right. Yeah, it's time to address this. Peel them back to curtain. So, as I say, every single episode, we start these bad boys at 4.30 p.m. Eastern time. But we open up the chat like 15, 10 minutes early at like 415, 420.

And Connor, our names get drugged through the mud by the addicts who tell us we're late. They say that your house blew up because you put, what was it, an aluminum, uncrustable in the microwave. somebody said that like I was too busy trying to wash my hands in the toilet so I you know I I didn't understand what time it was you guys are out of control before we start these shows we need we need we need somebody to wrangle you guys in 15 minutes before we go live somebody claimed you needed to run a generator to be able to do the podcast in your house it's beautiful Alex said given Trevor one more minute which was it at four 29, by the way. So giving Trevor one more minute or else we all cancel our PFF subscriptions, Balls in your court, pal. Well, balls checked back straight up to you. Alex, you owe us another PFF plus subscription.

You got to create another email now. Which, by the way, NFL is E 25. If you guys want to get 25% off a PFF plus description. Good deal. And you want to support the show. That's how you do it. Alex, we're just kidding with you. We love you.

We appreciate you guys. All getting in on the chat, making it lively at the very beginning. Connor, how you doing, my friend? I'm good, man. I'm so excited. This is our Friday. This is me and you. This is Friday, Tom. It is. If people don't know, Trevor and I are our Saturdays Thursday and then we start the week all over again. So we, this is like a mini happy hour for us right now. Shout out to Jay Burgs with the first super chat of the show. Drake May, baby. And Sally Scott, and I'm here for MVP candidate. Actually, Jay Berg's Drake May. Hold on. Please tell me that it wasn't Jay Berg's. who on Monday show also see I was hoping it was somebody different so that this is just a like again not that I'm trying to manufacture suit for you guys to say super chats simple super chats but this ongoing joke of you guys just spamming the chat with Drake may at random points I I feel like I will laugh at it every single time he confirmed it was I keep the bit going uh you don't even have

to make it a super chat I'll still read it don't worry uh man yeah I love him Robert in the chat saying Trevor definitely seems like a prepper has a generator for sure. Are you a jet? Do you have a generator? No, but when we when I lived in Florida, my family did. Well, for other reasons, but you live in Florida. You probably should. Right, right.

Like what do you estimate the population in Florida, how many people have a generator? It's got to be over 50% no. No, no, no, no, no. They are expensive. They are really expensive. It's expensive. and Floridians love them

I'm one of them they think they can just handle it no matter what there is a reason why during times of hurricanes the governor like eight million times is like please leave like if you're an evacuation zone

please leave there's a reason it's because Florida people they believe that they can handle everything and they've been through a lot so you know what they got frosted eggshells $2 super chat just Drake May it's a thing everybody's just contributing with Drake May.

How about a Duppie here? Thank you for the $10 super chat and then yelling at me. I blame Connor for tricking the Falcons into drafting Michael Pennex. Whoa. Hold on. It was all good a couple of weeks ago when you beat the bills. He's hurt. Don't blame Kirk Cousins dog shit on him.

It has been up and down for Pennix this year, but I think things are going to be okay. Penix. It's not it's not Pennick's fault that Kurt Cousins. arm is cooked. Yeah. Good super chat, though. It did make me laugh when I saw it before I even read it. Michael DiRenzio, dad, Badlands Represent. Shout out to you, Michael.

And of course, Tony Lee is always in here. Thank you, Tony for the super chat. Connor, thoughts on Jets trading Michael Carter for John Mechie. I liked Mechie coming out of the draft that year. So it was a pick swap. Wait, the Jets got John Mechie? Yeah, they traded Michael Carter. So this kind of, I know it's a really like, I love this.

Yeah, this is kind of a no-brainer for both sides. Michael Carter lost his start. He's been hurt a lot, unfortunately, a really good player. He lost his starting job to Jarvis Brownlee when they traded for Jarvis Brownlee, who's played well. So Michael Carter was kind of, he was on special teams for the Jets. And he's a good slot player when healthy that should be start, at least rotating in somewhere. So the Eagles get corner depth that they need.

The Jets free up the money as Michael Carter was on an extension. John Metchy gets to play somewhere before hitting free agency this year and show that he can contribute in an NFL wide receiver room. And the Jets turn a 2020 7th rounder into a 6th rounder, which is what everyone's doing these days. So quiet trade, but one that I think is kind of no risk for either side. I love the deal, especially because it's, seems like the Jets have made two small trades so far this season. Both of them are upgrades,

right? You upgraded the position at slot corner, and now Michael Carter becomes somebody who's not playing on a regular basis, and then you move him for a player who I like John Metchie coming out of Alabama. And I know he's been through a lot with like the cancer diagnosis and having to go through that and coming back and everything. But it also feels like he's just been a player that's kind of been buried on depth charts. And now he actually is going to get the chance to play with the Jets. So I actually like this move a good amount. out. Sullivan with the $5 Super Chat said thoughts on the Aden Hutchinson extension. I think it's going to be an absolute steal in a couple of years. Yeah, I mean, he's near top of the market.

What is he 25? What do you mean age? Yeah. Yeah, I mean, he's, I'm not worried about the age at all. But I'm saying like that, it'll age like wine. Yeah, he's, he doesn't turn 26 till next training camp. Because what's the, what's the average number for him? Did he get to 40? yeah because it was four years 180 million so it would have been just north of 40 which i think would make him the second highest paid probably only behind michael's uh well no of course micca's deal yeah yeah so 45 million is the annual average okay micha was 46 and a half yeah yeah i mean what a world i don't know if like i would use the word steel but no it will be well worth the money as long as he is healthy.

So I don't know about Steele because he's going to be top of the market for edge rushers, but he will be well worth that money. So he's fantastic. I don't have a vote for this, but I sit on Fantasy Football Happy Hour today. You always do as an American, brother. As an American, I do. From the NFL, I don't.

But we should. Trevor and I think we should have one show vote for every major award in college in the NFL. We don't have any. We'd like one. I think Aidan Hutchinson should be a comeback player of the year right now. He's plus 450. obviously Dack and McCaffrey are ahead of him.

And Dax been awesome. McCaffrey's been good. McCaffrey's more high volume than he is like. Very much so. It's actually weird. Who would have expected he's high volume, lower efficiency, but healthy. It's strange. Yeah.

And the Niners are all over the place. And we'll get to somebody was asking about Keon White for the 49ers. We'll get to that in a second. I think I would have it, DAC and then. Yeah, I think that's how it should be, that's how it should be set. But it's like a huge disparity. Yeah, uh, let's see, $2 super chat from Tino. He just said Jackson Dart, like on the Drake May thing.

He just goes, Jackson Dart. $5 super chat from Ty said, so that's what's been up with Trevor's camera. He thinks he could just tough it out through the generator. Again, Florida, you better believe I can. It's not about anything. Logan, Logan, Drake May is the Drake May of Drake Mays. No disagreement. you know i've never really thought of it like that but that's actually a pretty good way to encapsulate

who drake may is i haven't seen better here we go kaden with the two dollar super chat says thoughts on keon white trade for my 49er so keon white was a part of the patriots defensive line rotation going into this season and really last year before they totally revamped it it felt like he was the the man of promise on that defensive line and it just feels like he's gotten lost in the shuffle and I don't want to say he got benched. Phased out is how I would say. Phased out is probably a better way to say it. It's a good bet for the Niners because I do think that he's a player who could be a little

bit versatile for you and play inside out. He can play pretty strong at the point of attack and we know that Salad doesn't like to go away from the four down defensive lineman thing. Right. Now is he ever going to blossom into the passenger that you want him to be? I'm not so sure how much he helps that part of the Niners equation because if he was a good pass rusher, the Patriots wouldn't have traded him. So that's sort of where I'm at with my thoughts on it.

But I don't hate it for where he's going again because Sala likes to have four-down defensive linemen at all times in all situations. And Keon White is somebody who has the body type and the strength to be able to be a versatile pass-rusher or run defender for you in basically any situation. So that's my thoughts there. Yeah, I'd like to see Sala use him rush from the interior. in their NASCAR package. I think that would be the best move for Keaam White.

So it's a very low risk move for a Niners front that they need help badly. Okay. I see a lot of the other super chats. We're going to get to them at different points throughout the show. But let's dig into the Stockwatch portion of the show that we have here. As we always start out with these episodes, let's do a little quarterback carousel. And Connor, I will give you the floor.

Who do you want to bring up here as the first quarterback that we're talking about here on today's episode? This one's for you, partner. It's time to talk about Connor Wegman. This bud's for you, baby. This bud is for you. Let's go. He's so back.

He's back. He's back. He's a little back. He's a little back. And by a little back, I mean, he is back to being some caliber of an NFL quarterback prospect. And the good thing for Wegman is, never wrong, just early. That's exactly right.

Never, ever wrong. Just really early. You were really early. on this one that's true yeah is that he doesn't have to declare this year he has another year of eligibility if he wants to go back to houston and and continue this growth and as you see right there his worst game was against texas tech where they got blown out and they could not pass protect everybody's worst game is against tex yeah what a coincidence right it's like going out and buying two ed a pass rush just turns things around for you tex tech is wagon when we get to when we

get to get to our final scouting evils i wonder if you and i as a show are just going to come to the conclusion of like, yeah, just draft a Texas tech defensive line. Like it doesn't really, we don't have to overcomplicate this. Yeah. We don't have to nitpick it. Just draft it. Because like Skyler Gil Howard on the interior as well, along with Romero Height and David Bailey.

I wonder if it's just we come to that conclusion. But anyways, keep going about Conner. Yeah. So big time game against Arizona State, an upset win for Houston over Arizona State where Wegman was just highly efficient, honestly. You watch that game. He was accurate. He didn't miss throws.

I actually have a stock up player for the non-quarterbacks from this game as well that I won't go too deep into now because I want to save it for later. But Wegman added 118 rushing yards on the ground. Obviously running isn't a massive part of his game, but they called some designed runs to keep Arizona state honest. And it really caught them off guard. And Wegman gave them enough with his legs. He had two explosive runs out of a lot of his carries that kind of really can change

a drive. And what stands out to me beyond this game, Trevor, you watch the week seven game against Oklahoma State where he had five big time throws. Yeah. The big time arm talent is still there for this guy to rip the ball around the field, drive the ball outside the numbers, drive the ball down the sideline, hit the deep ball. So I still think he's struggling under pressure where he just looks a little overwhelmed when the protection's not right. But I think his trajectory is really pointing back upwards because I thought he played such a smart and efficient game against Arizona State.

And I think he's just been getting, besides the Texas Tech game, he's been getting better this year gradually. Yeah. And I think that even all jokes aside, sort of going back to when he was my preseason QB1 going into last year, you know, you watch the very small sample size.

And the reason why I wanted to buy into him is two things. One, I thought he had NFL caliber armtout, which you mentioned there. We're seeing that more on a regular basis and we're reminded. that he has that, especially with the baseball background. And then two, in that small sample size, boy, it's, what, two years ago now, he played in five games, so he played really well under pressure. And then when he came back for the 2024 season, he was terrible under pressure.

He was awful. And that's why he got benched and ended up transferring to Houston. Now he is starting to play a little bit better under pressure as well. You mentioned it's still a struggle for him. when I went back and I watched this game, because I saw that you wrote him down, so I wanted to go back and I wanted to watch this. I think the, the aspect of his game that he still struggles with the most is you still have to have, even if you like see your receivers well enough within the

passing concepts and you have the right timing of, okay, this is when this guy's going to get open, this is what he needs to be versus, you know, this sort of pre-snap look. Like these are the wide receivers that I'm looking at. These are my progressions at this point in time. you still have to have really good peripheral vision if you're a quarterback and you have to be able to okay if I'm going to fit this through you know two defenders I really have to it's it's not just about where my wide receiver is it's about where the defenders are around them and I still get really nervous because it feels like Wegman gets locked in to his receiver and if he goes

okay he's he's pretty open here when he should be he'll throw in the football but then you will see a different defender who maybe is creeping a little bit closer than you would have thought or he is even occupying that area that Wegman just doesn't see and I feel like he's got to have more of a respect for where the defenders are independent of when his wide receiver may come open you still have to be able to respect the defense a little bit more than I feel like he has been even in the whole of this season but he is playing a lot better so I'm glad that you shouted him out here yeah it's just good to see him get his confidence back a little bit he's obviously not back into this quarterback prospect territory or anything.

But it wouldn't shock me with the trajectory that he's on right now because I saw somebody in the chat agree with me that it's been better the last couple of games that if he finishes this season on a high note, the second half of the year playing really well, he's going to be somebody we have another conversation about during summer scouting again. Daniel said Connor Wegman went to high school with Arthur Blank.

You guys are out of pocket, man. Wasn't wasn't Wegman a true freshman? like no he played as a true freshman it was like a red shirt yeah he was a red shirt freshman two years ago so he's a red shirt junior this year i don't even think he's that old all the top quarterbacks are at least redshirt juniors besides dante more that that comment made me laugh that was great that was a good that was a good one daniel uh okay the first quarterback that i would bring up had a big game in the cc uh this past weekend between old miss and oklahoma and we've talked a lot about John Mateer here on this show.

And I'm not talking about John Mateer. I'm talking about the quarterback on the other side of things. I'm going to talk about Trinidad-Chamless, the quarterback from Ole Miss. I think this dude is so much fun to watch, man. Yeah. You see some of the numbers that we've got there on the screen versus Oklahoma. 79.0 overall grade, 78.1 passing grade had four big time throws, zero turnover-worthy plays. The reason why the passing grade is a little bit lower, you see.

it there, an adjusted completion percentage of just 63.2. Normally when you have an adjusted completion percentage, which takes out drops, you want that to be in the 70s at the very least. So low 60s is not a great number when it comes to adjusted completion percentage. So him missing some throws, that's why the passing grade is a little bit lower. But you see that lightning quick time to throw, such a quick decision maker. And I have a take, I have a take that I'm workshopping. Well, test it out here in front of everybody. Yeah. I have a take that I'm workshopping, and I don't know if I'm ready to bring it to the podcast yet, but I wonder if Trinidad Chambliss is who we wanted John Matier to be. Because they are

close in overall size and stature. Chambliss is a little bit smaller. I think so. I don't think Chambliss is six feet tall. So I think that he's right around six feet, but maybe he's a little bit smaller. He is a little bit smaller than John Matier is. But the brand of football that he plays is kind of what we all wanted Mateer to be. And as this year has gone on, obviously the injury doesn't help because it clouds this. But I just have way more questions

over John Mateer's overall arm talent to the NFL level than I do answers. Chambers can sling it. Like he, again, is this archetype of quarterback where I like his arm strength a lot more than what I've seen from John Mateer this year, even before the injury. You're looking at a dude who, he struggled against man coverage against Georgia. That was his lowest passing grade of the season. Georgia played a lot of press man.

They basically said, hey, go ahead, throw it over the top, throw the tight window throw, give these guys the back shoulders. And if you beat us that way, salute to you. You had a hell of a game. And he struggled a little bit being that sort of quarterback to take some of those riskier man coverage type of throws. But against zone, this dude will carve you up. He's good on the ground as well. He can give you a little bit of mobility.

He's very clutching the fourth quarter. We saw that this past game against Oklahoma. One of this big time throws was an absolute dime. I believe it was a slot fade. Maybe it was an outside fade down the sideline deep into the fourth quarter. They had a lead and that pass basically sealed it for him. And so I just, this kid is playing so well. And when I watched him the first time,

We've talked about him on a previous Stockwatch episode. I think I brought him up. And I was just like, he's fun. I just don't know if he's built for the NFL level. I still have some question marks there. But the kid is fun, man. I mean, he's got a- Well, he's a gamer, man.

Like, that's what it comes down to. And he's got a better arm than you would expect from a guy who's hovering around six feet 200 is sort of kind of what I'm saying here. And if you're talking about these guys who are smaller quarterbacks, he's got some juice behind his arms so chambliss i was i was really impressed with when it comes to what he was able to do this past week i'll throw in two timely super chats here that have to do trinidad chamblis so we don't miss them later lagway thank you for the super chat he said in my opinion the raven should draft him to back up lamar that's definitely a scheme fit without a doubt

and then frosted eggshells thank you for the super chat chamblis is destined to be a future tight end one after he follows lane kiff into florida this off season Uh, by one thing, which, why wouldn't you do that to me? I'm having a good time. Yeah, I'm having a good time talking about the buzz. So Chambliss is two years older than Meteer. That's my only reservation with that. He's been around a pretty long time.

He should be as physically matured as you'd expect being 23 going on 24. Uh, I think he's a really fun college player. I haven't done the full eval on tape to tell you how I view him from an NFL projection. I feel like I watch this guy more than anyone. because I feel like I'm constantly watching Ole Miss every weekend because they're just in really fun game scripts and I like their tight end, Desquan Wright, a lot. So, yeah, I'm curious what the table show me as a prospect.

I agree with you, though. I just really worry about the build. Yep. Like, I think there are physical limitations. He is absolutely on the smaller side and you have to take that with a grain of salt. And I'm not even talking about. So when I say that I wonder if he's sort of who we

wanted John Mateer to be. I'm not saying that from like a number one overall pick, top 10 overall pick type of standpoint. I just mean the style in which a lot of people fell in love with John Mateer, I actually think this dude's doing it better. Not that he's going to get drafted ahead of Mateer. And at this point in time, guys, I'll be honest, I think Mateer's going back to school. Well, it makes no sense for him right now. Yeah, I think he's going back to school. I think we're going to get a handful of these guys going back to school. But Trinidad's not. Trinidad's going to be in the draft because I sure don't think he has more eligibility.

I don't think so. Yeah, shoot, if he stayed another year, Leo Nardo DiCaprio wouldn't even be interested in him at that point. So, you know, forget the NFL. But he's just all that to say, man, big time game from him. I'm loving what I'm seeing. He's a lot of fun as a prospect in this class. All right, my next quarterback. Yep.

I'm trying to finally bring up. some players that bring up some questions with them right now just all positives because we're already almost in november luke altmeyer is someone coming off a really tough week for illinois they got kind of smacked around by washington i'll be honest with you when i turned on the tape do you see you see a tyler producer say goat mire shout out to the person who's always in the chat calling oh there's always someone in the chat calling gore i think the person last on Monday it was like it's over for Goatmyer oh no all right go ahead talk to me so the tape wasn't as bad as I thought and I watched this game live and then I watched the tape and number one the

play calling in this loss I just didn't love I just didn't I didn't love a lot of it I thought put Altmyer in in a bad spot way too often he had a beautiful would be touchdown throw dropped in the second quarter that I thought could have been called pass interference on the defense. It looked like the arm might have been pinned and the drop was really just with his body in one arm. It was a great throw. And that put them, that probably hurt them because they were playing from behind in the second half. A ton of RPO in this game. A ton of RPO. Where you see Altmeier actually do a good job, he would like change his arm angle and kind of no way how to speed up his release off the RPO.

So that was a positive. The problem is with Altmeyer that was exposed in the second half, and it's not all his fault. Washington did a really good job mixing up their blitzing, where they'd heat them up, and then right after the blitz would work, they would show pressure again, and they would drop everyone back.

And it felt like he just didn't have any answers. at that point where it was like, okay, I've been heated up and I didn't get to throw off as early as I wanted to or throw it hot. Sure, right. Now I think they're blitzing again. I'm going to throw it hot. Oh, they didn't blitz any of these guys.

They all dropped out. The field's covered. Yeah. And that's probably also an issue too. Like, you're not going to take off with your legs all the time if you're Luke Altmire and beat them that way. So the end, even the first interception, you can argue, oh, it's a deflection. He stared down the throw in a,

triple coverage. So yes, it was deflected, but when you stare down to throw in triple coverage, there's more defenders there to make a play off the deflection. So I like Altmeyer for what he is. I think he's somebody that knows how to manage an offense when things are right. I think that he has enough talent, but it just feels like a guy that's a backup at the NFL level. I just don't know if he has the playmaking tools. I mean, you don't have the playmaking tools. You need this elite mindset to recognize the blitz or beat when they're playing, beat them when they're playing coverage. And I just thought this was one of the games, Trevor, that like it felt like it mattered a little more than other games because Washington's a good team with a good secondary and they're

well coached. And he just didn't have any answers in that second half. So it was tough for someone that, you know, we like, but it's hard to love them as a prospect. Yeah. And I completely agree with you. I feel like that's the way that I've seen him throughout most of this process is like when things are clean and when he has confidence in what he's seeing, he can operate an offense at a decent level. But is he the quarterback who's going to get you out of trouble or even probably better said, get himself out of trouble? Right. You hike the football and okay, the safeties didn't rotate the way that you thought, okay, well, now we had two vertical routes. Now both of them recovered. Okay, now what am I doing? Oh, shoot, they actually brought

a guy on the blitz. And does he have that get out of trouble ability from himself? And I just, don't know if he's that physically gifted. So I feel like it's, yeah, he's more of a day three conversation type of a quarterback and probably a little bit of an NFL journeyman there. But I agree with you and how you saw him there. Okay. The next quarterback that I want to talk about, we haven't talked about Haynes King yet. I was excited when you wrote this one in to hear what you have to say.

Yeah, we need to look at Keynes King because. God, he looks like Bo Knicks in that picture. He's having, he is having a hell of a year, Georgia, heck is having a hell of a year. And really it's what he's able to bring to the table on that offensive side of the ball that's been pretty good. And, you know, funny enough, this is not the only Georgia Tech player that we're actually going to talk about today. So he's listed at six foot three, 215 pounds. He's got 12 rushing TDs so far this season. You see the six fumbles that are there. Three of them are lost fumbles. So half of them have been lost. So not

great. He's still got to be able to protect the football a little bit better. But seven passing touchdowns, it's not a ton. But only one. interception. He's been pretty mistake-free. I believe he has like five big-time throws and zero turnover-worthy plays on the season. He's just been very, very good at taking care of the football this season as a dual-threat option for Georgia Tech. You see the grades there, 88.2 overall grade, 84.0 passing grade, above 80% adjusted completion percentage. The time to throw is pretty quick for him as well. He's been a pretty quick processor. And what is his rushing grade? I actually just had this up a

second ago. His rushing grades a 75.1, and he's got over 600 rushing yards. He got 675 rushing yards this season, and almost half of them are after contact. So you can see from the picture alone that we've got on the screen here, I don't know if that's blood in his kneecap. It might be, you know, some red from the paint, but I'm going to say that it's blood on the kneecap and my guy's playing through it. You can't even tell. No, it's blood of his enemies. It's not his blood. That's a good point. Good point. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Love it. I'm actually. I'm actually, I am going to stick with that 100%. That is the blood of his enemies.

He is high-neeing defenders everywhere. Now, is it a flag? Only if they call it, baby. So Haines King, you started out at Texas A&M, really good athlete. He was billed as this RPO type of dual threat type of quarterback. And to be honest with you guys, he just wasn't as consistent as he needed to be as a passer.

When he was Texas A&M and even two years ago, the first year that he was at Georgia Tech, he had more turnover-worthy plays than he had big-time throws. Like he was somebody who, it just, it was, it was not, it was not careful enough. Yeah, the good things were cool and the ooh and ah moments were great, but he just was not consistent enough as he needed to be. Now, over the last two years, the explosive passing plays have gone down a lot,

but he's not really turning the ball over either. He's this true dual threat rushing type of quarterback, and he's operating the offense at a level in which when they have that full backfield threat of, He could keep it, he could pitch it, he could hand it off, could be play action, it could be an RPO, could be a QB power, anything. That's when the defense really starts to get sucked in and the safeties and the linebackers really creep up to when he hit it right over the top of him.

And that's what Haynes King is really good at this season. He doesn't do it a ton, but I want to recognize the efficiency that he's been able to play with this season. Ultimately, his style is similar to that. I'm not going to say it's the exact same, but I think that when people watch Haynes King this year, they will think of Riley Leonard, maybe, and sort of what Riley Leonard was for Notre Dame as this rushing threat and passer. I don't think he is the caliber of passer that Riley Leonard is, and I don't think that he processes things at a high enough level like Riley Leonard did. And Riley Leonard was a sixth round pick. Tassim Hill might be the other one, right?

I don't think he's built quite like Taysam Hill. You guys got to understand. Go back and watch, and I did this because I wanted to make sure that I was reminded as well. Go watch the Taysen Hill BYU stuff. This dude is thick in the lower half. Oh, yeah. Pause. His legs, the glutes, the hamstrings, I mean, when he lowered his shoulder to make contact,

and it's the same thing at the NFL level. In fact, I think he's gained more weight at the NFL level because he's leaned into this role. When he puts his shoulder down, there is serious leg drive behind it. And Haynes King just, he's not built the way that Taysam Hill is built. And Taysam Hill was an undrafted, free agent type of a guy. Haynes King's having a very fun year. I still think he's a priority UDFA right now. And that's just sort of where he's at, his execution as a passer.

But he's putting his best foot forward. And it's a lot of fun to watch. And you're certainly not going to hear me complain about it as a fan of college football. watching them every single week for the NFL draft here on this show i had to kind of get my thoughts out and just make that clear but when you're watching them on saturdays enjoy it because georgia tech's been a lot of fun man well said i mean he he is a blast to watch and i think it's the classic distinguishing of you know what's a really fun gamer type college player versus what they'll be asked to do to win in the pros that's kind of like the pinnacle that i love it says dog on the bottom of the graphic

yeah that was all tyler as well that's amazing i didn't put that in the notes tyler put that in the notes that is amazing by the way tyson in the uh the chat said haines king sounds like a premium pair of boxers does look the luxury version of haines it's kind of correct i mean the fact that there's not an nil deal i actually i don't know if there's not an might be but if there's not it it's it's a it's a massive miss it's a massive miss you know what One of my friends at UF thought of this for Kevin Durant. When Durant got into the NBA, because there wasn't NIL when Kevin Durant was at Texas, how was there not a deodorant called deodorant, but it's deodorant?

Deodorant. Yeah. It's right there. I feel like it's where I feel like it's another missed opportunity. I mean, Kevin might not know about this idea yet. Kevin watches. He's an addict. Yeah, and he's very online. Kevin, we know that you watch. Big NFL draft guy. Have your people hit up our people. We'll make you some money. Hear him out.

Deodorant. Deodorant. God. Well, speaking to dogs, how about Joey Aguilar? I thought you were going to say, speaking to deodorant, and I didn't know where we were going.

Nope. Joey Aguilar, man. We've been asked a lot about him. First off, before we've been talking about the player, and obviously the numbers there are pretty astonishing. I want to talk about the pathway this guy has been on for those that don't know. So Joey Aguilar, who is 24 years old right now, he turns 25 in June. So he will go into his first training camp as a 25-year-old.

He had no offers at a high school. So this is 2019. He enrolls at City College of San Francisco and red shirts. He red shirts as a true freshman at City College of San Francisco. 2020 seasons canceled due to COVID so the internet tells me he actually thought at this point about ending his football career and just become a firefighter so he he obviously decides the ops against that delays being a firefighter he transfers to diablo Diablo valley college to continue playing college football he's not named the starter going into 2021 he eventually takes over as the starter. And then he ends up playing really well as a starter there for really a year

and a half, almost two seasons. Transfers up to D1. Appalachian State has two years at Appalachian State. I believe he holds single season passing records for Appalachian State. Then his final year, this is now his seventh year of college, he decides to transfer to UCLA where the big switcheroo happens. Yeah, the one for one. rare player trade in college. Between colleges, where Nico out of nowhere is leaving Tennessee for UCLA, Aguilar goes to Tennessee. What are the odds a kid at a high school with no offers that was studying to be a firefighter at the city college of San Francisco, where he was a richer and then his season was canceled from the COVID-19 pandemic, ends up five years later

as the starting quarterback for a raging hot Tennessee team in the SEC. It's pretty damn cool, man. It's freaking awesome. That's pretty damn cool. Yeah. So before we talked about Aguilar as the player, I think it's very important to paint his story of how we got here. Now, as a player,

this is someone that's a big, big play hunter, man. He is. And you got to be in a Josh Heipel offense. That's the name of the. game you really do um he's someone that you just watched the week nine a game against kentucky he had five big time throws he's he's throwing the ball all over the field down the field that was the most he's had in the season what i like trevor is he's starting to master how to put a lot of air under the ball on the deep throws and allowing the receivers to go find it

and i don't it's not as easy as people think you know these it's not a moon ball because there's only one guy that really throws up the moonball, but there's a, I don't know, do you watch, do you watch Sam Levitt versus, versus, uh, okay, what was it, Texas Tech, whatever it was where, I mean, if you didn't, if you didn't watch that from a couple of weeks ago, please just go back and watch it. It's, he, Sam Levin in general. It's, it is just, it's moon ball of all. He has like eight of them. It's crazy. Anyways, keep going. No, that's a right. Yeah, that's a great call. Sam Levitt does throw the, it puts a ton of air under the ball it's like a hot air balloon i can't quit the man i can't commit to the man either you

i feel like you're so close to letting go i can't commit to the man but i can't quit the man so number one watching this game i am wildly impressed with tennessee's pass protection let me just get that out of the way i watch this offense and i'm like man the reason they could attack down the field the way they do is this offensive line does a really really good job and if you watch the tape leading up to this game, that was kind of the one, you know, Thorne in the side of Aguilar, is that his production had dropped off pretty far when he was under pressure. But against Kentucky, he hung in there and fired the ball down the field and took some big shots, which I hadn't seen a ton of that yet, where he was successfully pushing the ball down

the field while pressure was in his face. So that was a big jump in this game. And this is someone to me, he's got to be a little careful staring down. his targets. I think he gets fixated on certain routes and players, especially when hunting that big play. And somebody pointed out in the chat that a couple of the interceptions have been off deflections. But a couple of times, he gets caught staring down and allows the defenders to make a break on the ball. He still has five turnover worthy plays. Six interceptions, five turnover worthy plays. So it's sort of even, even though they're not one and one. Yeah, one of them

against Alabama wasn't a throw. But it was a turnover where he held the ball forever. Right. So, yeah, the bottom line is this is a hell of a story. He is somebody that is on the radar now when you would never expect that. And I can't wait to see where this thing goes. And I thought there was legitimate improvements against pressure against Kentucky that I hadn't seen in the previous games. Yeah, I mean, he's got some nice armed talent from what I have seen. I haven't sat down to do his full scouting eval yet.

And I really need to now that we're getting towards the end of the season. So he's on my list. He's somebody that I've got to watch more indefinitely. but I'm glad that you brought him up. I'm glad that you're telling his story because it is really cool that we're even talking about him, right? From where he started to where he is right now. It's unbelievable.

It's a good shout-up. The last quarterback that I want to talk about is Sawyer Robertson from Baylor. And the reason why I wanted to bring him up, we have talked about him on this show. We talked about him a little bit during summer scouting. I think you had pointed him out as somebody who was just like, hey, he's got some NFL armed talent here. You didn't say like he was.

It was 12th for me, I think. Yeah, I mean, like, you didn't say he was perfect or anything or, like, in the top five-year-recorded, but you were like, I see the tools with him. I compare him to Mahomes. Yeah, well, you know, in his first year, and then he'd be better than Mahomes in his second year. Right. But the tools were there, and I think that we've seen some good production from him. This past week versus Cincinnati, and the reason why I wanted to bring him back up is because

I think when a lot of people have looked at Sawyer Robertson this year, they're focusing a lot of when things are really good. and there's always more than just the really good moments. You've got to watch the moments where he struggles as well. And unfortunately for me, I feel as though the moments where Sawyer Robertson struggles are the more projectable ones to the NFL. Not that he wouldn't have any good moments in the NFL right now, but specifically, you're looking at some of the stats on the screen

from this past week against Cincinnati. 62.7 overall grade, zero big time throws. He had one turnover worthy play in this game. He had 137 yards passing, two touchdowns, no interceptions. 69.2 adjusted completion percentage, two stacks taken, time to throw of 2.6.4. The numbers aren't terrible there within themselves from that game, but when you go back and you watch that game along with a handful of others that he has played this season, the consistency in which he plays. and the ball placement and the accuracy, Connor, I just don't think is there yet.

And he's got one of the lower adjusted completion percentage of the quarterbacks that we talk about for the 2026 draft class. And I'm trying to, when I watch Sawyer Robertson, I always try to watch him and I go, okay, why are you missing? Like, do you just need to work on touch passes? Do you need to work on sideline passes?

Is it the shorter passes? Maybe the in rhythm throws versus zone versus man? And unfortunately, I come away from watching a couple of his games this year going, I don't have a consistent thing to point to. And I wish I did. I wish there was something specific that I could point to one of those categories that I named where I go, okay, well, if you fix this, if we really work on this, the rest of it is there. But I've seen him just miss wide receivers in a multitude of ways.

sometimes it's due to technique. Sometimes he's just putting too much air underneath passes. Sometimes he's fired in there too fast. Sometimes he doesn't want to put the ball where he needs to against tight man coverage. Now there are other times where he completes passes of all of those categories. But to me, he's too inconsistent as a player right now. And that's really what the story is for me with Sawyer Robertson. If you were to take him and plop him into the NFL,

I just don't think that an NFL would really give him a chance because he's not consistent enough. a lot of different areas. So that's where I am with him. Still a guy who has potential NFL tools like you had mentioned when we went over summer scouting. But the inconsistencies of why I was a little bit lower on him than you were to me still exist this season, even though he's having a lot more production success than he has in years past. Yeah, he is somebody that you look at him and you see his best throws and you're like, okay, there should be something here. Ideal size and frame and arm strength, but I'm with you that it just hasn't all come together.

And I feel like a decent amount of it is play speed and seeing the field. Could be. Especially when you look at the average depth of target, knowing he has the big arm to not be playing that way. But yeah, I expected a little more from him this year, admittedly, and haven't seen that jump yet. Before we go on to the next positions, Bork said Trevor's going. Trevor is going so hard, giving great insight, and we're just in the chat talking about renaming

the guy. And as I'm like scrolling up, that's all it is. Bork said, should have named him Ryder Robertson or Bull Rush McDoom Robertson. And then Anthony said Bull Rush Robertson is a first round pick. Yeah, I think so. Andrew said Gunner Robertson would be absolutely elite. That's why I need to actually watch Gunner Stockton because, holy hell, Gunner Stockton's an incredible quarterback name in all-timer Anthony said Gunner McDoom is greater than Tom Brady. McDoom is really generating real

life on this show lately. Will said Huckleberry Robertson. This is ridiculous. Andrew Doc Robertson. You guys are great. Doc Robertson Doc Robertson is really good. We actually on this show might need to

start a grassroots movement to give Robertson the nickname Doc. How long has he been in college? I think four years. I think this is his senior year. If we can get one more year out of him, we might be able to stretch out the nickname Doc as if he's going for his doctorate degree because he's been there so long. Build up the hype for it all summer. Because Doc Robertson, that hits. I could absolutely see Rich Eisen day two of the NFL draft on the NFL desk. This name gets announced and he goes,

All right, DJ, Doc Robertson from Baylor. Talk to me about him. And then DJ goes off, you know, bringing the strength and the weaknesses, like he does a great job always with all these prospects. But I could see that. Did I ever tell you on my Mets podcast how we accidentally manufactured a fake nickname that got all the way to the broadcast? See, I love this because not enough people know that the Mets podcast that you do

is actually like, when I, I, when I was watching a Mets game and your podcast came up of like, hey, watch, you know, watch his podcast, Connor Rogers. Yeah, I can't remember who else. Joe, Joe, yeah, Joe, yes, yes, yes. So it's like, oh, yeah, watch it with Connor and Joe. Like, I was like, I was the Leo me. Yeah, yeah, yeah.

Pointing at my TV. Yeah. Okay, tell us this story. So, yeah, this had, this reminded me and why I think we can make this happen with Doc Robertson. Okay. So when the Mets drafted a couple years ago, and not in the first two rounds, He was, you know, an under the radar pick.

Nolan McLean was the player's name from Oklahoma State. So McLean in college was a hitter and a pitcher. So we're like, oh, sick, like a two-way player. This is awesome. So I came up with the nickname of my co-host Joe. Let's call him Cowboy Otani because he played for Oklahoma State, the Cowboys. And he could be R. Otani. And the Mets, when they drafted him, we're like, we're going to let them do both in the minor leagues and see what happens.

So for a while, they let him do both. So long story short, Nolan McLean eventually focuses only on, hit plenty of home runs in the minors, but eventually focuses on pitching. And out of nowhere this year, he becomes the top pitching prospect in the Mets system. And Noel McLean gets called up to save the Mets in like August. So, and we, we had Nolan on the podcast when he was in the minors. He's a super cool dude. We told him about the nickname. he like totally approved of it.

But clearly nobody had called him that in his life. We were just, we were just messing around. And he's like, oh, I like the nickname and that was that. It was like no big deal. Right. So at the press conference, somebody in the media asked Carlos Mendoza, the Mets manager, after they called up McLean, like jokingly about him hitting two. And they're like, you know, he was called in college the Cowboy Otani.

He was not called the Cowboy Otani ever. like that's not that's not the nickname you're duping america with your tom foolery it was a stupid nickname we came up with on the podcast that we liked because it gave a prospect that wasn't a first rounder didn't have a ton of hype like a lot of life and our audience like loved following cowboy otani did he hit a home run this week or did he strike out nine people and little did we know and we liked him but we didn't think he was like amazing he ends up now he's the ace of the Metz. He's phenomenal. He was, he came up, he was lights out. He's unbelievable. But during the broadcast a couple times, they referenced Cowboy Otani.

That's awesome. Because they heard it in the presser as well. So it just kept generating new life. And it's not anything anyone called him in college. It was a stupid podcast bit. And that goes to show you. Nicknames can go very, very far from conversations like this. And we're going to make it happen with Doc Robertson. You have now empowered me and this podcast to manifest. as many nicknames as possible. The Buffalo Bills one day will tweet Bull Rush McIntyre

when T.J. Sanders gets his sack. Yes. I think I'll tweet at them begging. I believe in the addicts to be able to do this. And we're going to do the same thing with Doc Robertson and save his career. That's what we're going to do because that's what we do here on the show. We're going to run through a bunch of super chats that we haven't gotten to yet before we get to our six stock up players, three from each of us. coming up in a second, but before we do that, got to pay the bills really quick. This NFL is seed betting segment brought to you by our friends over at Draft Kings.

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and this is a limited time offer. All right, superchats. You want to run through them? Let's go. Let's ping pong them. Okay. You first for me. Michael Garden, thank you for the super chat.

Real addicts. Remember all your guest to me always and forever. Yeah, of course. Have to. Have to. Cappy $5 super chat. Love you appreciate you. On a scale of 1 to 10,

how likely is it that Iowa will beat Oregon? Shouted offensive coordinator, Tim Lester. What's the spread going to be for that game? I checked it doesn't exist yet, but it's not good. That's no idea. I already looked. What's the likelihood? I mean, it's college football, so anything can happen, and it's the big 10.

Four out of 10? I would have said, yeah, I was going to say three. I was going to say three. Shout out to Tim Lester. Josh, you got to put Jenningsstone crew at Wildcat quarterback. That's all you're going to do. Then it's a seven out of ten. Then it's a seven out of ten.

Absolutely. Josh Rebar. Thank you for the $20 super chat. Please, what a guy. Please tell me what I need to do to get a full special team's episode. Not just kickers and punters, but also returners, gunners. I'll be honest with the problem with that is because I do, when I do my last year was a top 320, I have kickers and punters in it. And when I write up guys, I'll mark if they're a return specialist and all those things. I just don't know if Trevor and I have the programming time. because we do guess mock draft we do all the position rankings that right like i'm going to be honest with you josh i love it i and this is a good time to remind everybody to please help the show please subscribe to the show thank you please and thank you so much because then we could even maybe consider doing stuff like this right i worry if enough people would want it i think the true addicts would want it well i never doubt that ever true addicts would absolutely i'm not ruling it out let's leave it at that. There you go. I think that's the best way to do it. Because I do think that a show like that would be fun if we had the time to do it.

I'd love it. Mitch, $2. Love you. Thank you so much. We appreciate the super chat. Said love from the UK. Where is Kiffin next season? You want my honest answer? Florida. Old Miss. I know he's going to be at Ole Miss. I don't think he's leaving. You can't let him go. I don't think he's leaving. Look, LSU is going to pay him more money. Flores is going to pay him more money. But as long as it gets him a raise at Old Miss, man, you could have a statue outside of that stadium if you stay at Ole Miss. Stay at Ole Miss, man.

I, as a Florida fan, it pains me to say this, but like chasing the next big contract job somewhere else where you could just fail in three years and it's not a great spot. It's overrated, man. You pay to craft ton of money anyway. Stay somewhere, build a legacy. And from Lane's entire coaching career from the NFL to college

would be a cool way for him to kind of just stick around in the spotlight in college football. I say Ole Miss. But would it not be funny if he goes to LSU to coach his daughter's boyfriend? would be hilarious. That, like, that is, that is a content factory. Factory, I'll leave it at that. If they break up, he's just going to bench wit.

I'm not even going to bench him. I'm just opting out. Kyle Culp, thank you for the $10 super chat, buddy. Need a go fund me for a new mic and camera for sure. Whoa. So this has to be a running joke, right? Because you look and sound fine today. Thank you.

Look. I'm going to be honest. It hasn't been the best year in terms of a camera, Mike. I'll keep it a buck. Has been perfect. We're getting better every week. That's right. We appreciate the 10-dollar super chat.

Alexander Peterson, thank you for the super chat. Tyler Shuck, sure. See what he's got. Sullivan, $2 super chat. Just Roy Lopez. I love it. Kurt with the $10 super chat. Leroy Jenkins.

Learoy Jenkins. Aiden Goldstein, thank you for the $15 super chat. Speaking of Connor Wegman, what is Tanner Coziel's ceiling? Remember I said there's a player I didn't want to spill the details on during Wegman's time because he's a stock up for me. It's Tanner Coziel. So we are going to get there, Aidan.

Okay, shoot, I lost my place. Adam Heath, $20 Super Chat. Thank you, Adam. Just $20 Super Chat. We love you. We appreciate it. I'm just going to assume it was Drake May. That's what the tricks would have been.

We're just going to assume this Drake May. Kyle, $5, $5, super chat. This is the last one that we'll read it. and then we'll get to the stock up guys. I know he isn't draft eligible, but thoughts on Bryce Underwood. I feel like I watched him at the beginning of the year and like insanely gifted and talented dude.

They're letting him do more now, which is... Are they? I haven't watched him as of late. I only watched him at the beginning of the year when he had like one really good game and then one really bad game. The USC game was kind of, I feel like they're awakening of like,

we can't play with training wheels, even though he's a freshman quarterback, because it's going to be hard for us to keep up in a track meet. his talent's unbelievable it really is i mean you have to always keep in mind that he's still a true freshman but the the way he could play from the pocket is really impressed me honestly really impressed me all right all right love to hear it all right who else does impress you give me your stock up oh yeah look at that transition a true pros pro how about denzel boston the wide

receiver from washington that just devoured and i mean devoured the illinois defense and And with Denzel Boston, who's a bigger wide receiver, he's 6-4, he's about 210 pounds. You're so used to him being this, you see the 66.7% contested catch rate, this contested catch monster. But what impressed me in this game against Illinois, Trevor, where he had 10 catches for 153 yards in a touchdown, was everything else, the IQ, the patience in his routes, the scheme. They know how to use him in condensed formations. They had a play, I believe, on a third down.

where they had him in the backfield to get a free release and the linebackers kind of lost sight of him. But after the catch, he just wants to bully you. That's where that big frame runs over safeties, runs over corners. He had two third and sixes that he converted Monster Day for Denzel Boston, who is just one of those big perimeter threats that's trying to show he could do a little bit of everything. I'm glad that you mentioned, you know, him in condensed sets because that is where I think

he holds a ton of value, right? he's in in today's NFL like if you're a big bodied ex receiver we think of them as just traditionally like on the sideline but there are so many offensive coordinators that are willing to get creative with those bigger wide receivers not only in the slot but also like in those condensed sets to be honest with you it's why chris godwin is as valuable as he is because when he's fully healthy over the last three to four years for the buccaneers when they go to condensed sets he's like a tight like he blocks like a tight end and and that can be something that Denzel Boston can do as well just as a bigger bodied wide receiver who thrives when you get him

into space. He doesn't get awkward or nervous or less confident when you get him in space or away from the sideline. So I love the shout out here. We were high on Denzel Boston going into the year. We're still very much high on Denzel Boston here. Hasn't changed. A lot of people are saying that he should go to Boston. The tea party. Man, if he did go to the Patriots, one, he's a great fit for Drake May, too. Good Lord. What a, like a just a 10 out of 10 for bits and social media. A.C. A.C. saying Denzel Boston future Washington commander. Yeah. I love that too. They kind of got to replenish the wide receiver room there as you know, Terry and Debo have been really banged up this year. It's like Chris Moore and, uh, Luke McCaffrey every week.

Yeah, they would, a big bodied wide receiver would be great, especially because, they are still leaning into Zach Ertz. Yeah. Oh, Jaden and Boston would be dynamite. Dynamite. They really would. Yep. What do you got?

My first stock up guy, I've talked about him here on this show. I'm going to keep talking about him. He's my second favorite safety in the class. AJ Halsey. You love this guy. The safety from LSU, man. He had another, I thought, fantastic day against Texas A&M. Now, Texas A&M obviously had the much better day overall as a team.

And you see the overall PFF grade. It's a 68.2, and you see the 78.8 run defense grade, which I want to get through more in a second, and then the 58.4 coverage grade. So he had, I believe an interception in this game. I think he had an interception. I feel like he has one every week every time we talk about him. I got to double check. But the reason why his coverage grade is lower is because I went back and I watched all of his coverage reps. There's a handful of plays where, yeah, it's like, it's in his zone. Technically, it is his fall. but like it's tough plays.

Like it's plays where Texas A&M called a really good play to pick on him and another defender specifically. And like not just because they're not good, but because of where they were aligned and how the coverage was, it was just kind of a really good job of Texas A&M putting guys in conflict.

And so it was unfortunately some tough plays for him to make it coverage. But when it came to lay in the wood in run defense, whether it was on Marcel Reed or any of the running backs or even wide receivers when he had the chance to get to hit him and lower the shoulder like he does. I think that this dude just hits like a Mack truck and I love his instincts when he gets to roam free over the middle of the field. He can play some of those single high free safety roles, which by the way,

that was a couple of the plays I watched where he was in that single high free safety role and he was sort of put in conflict. He's fast, but he's not like elite fast to be able to recover at a top tier level. that's why if you get him in two safety sets where he can have a little bit more free of him where there's another safety around that he can just hunt over the middle of the field or really read the quarterback's eyes. I think this dude is fantastic.

I think he's got all sorts of talent. Last time I brought him up, people were like, yo, we at Houston, we miss him. He was awesome. And I think that he's one of the best defenders that LSU has, which I think is really saying something. So AJ Halsey's my dude, man. I really do think that he could be a,

top 50 player for me when it's all said and done yeah you've been banging the table for this guy for a while now and for good reason just how complete of a game he's been playing here and you love seeing the versatile snap counts as well especially in today's NFL man like it's you don't see a lot of teams that have hey this is our free safety and hey this is our box safety and you know these just guys are just being rotated around like crazy especially with all the injuries my next one getting back to the theme of maybe not a stock up or a stock down, but a stock update. We haven't had a conversation since the summer about Max Llewellyn, the edge rusher from Iowa.

So I figured it was a good time to catch up on him as you see the very positive pass rush grade. That is the name of the game for Max Llewellyn, 16.5% pass rush win rate. Honestly, Trevor, he's just been hot and cold this year when you watch him. He had a sack against Minnesota last week that was sick, lined up on the edge. cross chop barrel into the pocket and take down the quarterback the thing and he he's a gifted pass rusher we've talked about on film you see the hand usage you see him try to convert speed to power he's got a spin move he he's just that's exactly what he still is he is a designated pass rusher

because the run defense hasn't made the progress to be this every down player so i'm kind of curious with Max Llewellyn, who has been hot and cold as that pass rusher, not really developing as a run defender. And there's a role for that in the NFL. I mean, if you can get after the quarterback and you can get on the field and situational football, it matters a lot. And I like this player still. I really do.

But I just don't know if he's made the sign. Like this is someone where you watch the pass rush tape on summer scouting and go, man, if he becomes an average run defender and just builds a little on the already good pass rush tape, you're going to have a top 40. to 50 pick with that kind of talent. But I don't think he's made that ascension this year yet so far. Somebody, Kenny in the chat is asking, how does he compare to Lucas Van Ness?

Sort of like when he was coming out. He's more skilled. And Van Ness was stronger. Okay. Yeah, Llewellyn has like a bag of moves. I never saw that with Van Ness. Right, right. And that's good to clarify that because Van Ness was,

Venness was a defensive tackle before they had him lose a bit, a little bit of weight and kick him out to edge. So, yeah, that's a good way to answer that question and notifying those different skills that they have. Yeah, Van Ness is bigger, for sure. I think that says 283 on our graphic. Yeah. Luellen's more like 260.

Oh, okay. I would say he's not, he's not as big as Van Ness. Move $5 super chat says, glad to see Trevor finally took his mic off power saving mode. and the camera off 10 FBS mode looking good champ yeah appreciate it champ thanks champ buddy pal yeah bow guy appreciate sport what one really pisses you off when someone in public like hits you with one of those is there one that really bothers you if anybody non ironically hit me with a champ move i know that i know that you're just joking we're not i'm not calling you out i'm loving

this movie. No, it's funny. This is actually, that your comment was actually funny. But if somebody unironically hit me with a champ, like in person, I think I'd be floored. I think I wouldn't know what,

I think I might laugh at them. I don't, I wouldn't know what to do. Buddy, chief. Like, John. Big guy is not great. Big guy's not great.

Yeah, big guys, big guy's not great because, again, if they're saying this unironically, ironically, then obviously they're calling you out. I see a big dog in there, and I'm not going to lie. Sometimes I call people that, but I think it's funny.

But maybe it's not, maybe no one's laughing with me. I think the Tiger Woods meme has revolutionized big dog. Big dog is funny. Kido, kid, yeah, kiddo. Oh, man. I think if you say buddy with enough attitude. Yeah, buddy, buddy's a dependent. and on tone that one sucks if you like yeah if you know that somebody you call buddy and they say

but right exactly yeah i'd hit him with the south park line and see if they knew what to do with it i'm not your buddy guy yeah exactly all right yeah we got some good ones little bro obviously yeah i mean if somebody hits you with a little bro in public one you just need to they need to grow up you have permission to fight yeah i'd hit i hit him with like i'll pray for you you know kind of a thing if they hit me with a little bro see what happens after that uh okay nicky prongos have you watch this guy the office attack from stanford although i did watch their most recent game but i didn't watch his tape look at tyler with the image just like the full graphic here for nicky prongos so

all right yeah the the background for him i don't want to say that it's similar to joe Aguilar, but it's worth mentioning like Joey Aguilars was. So, Nikki Prongos, the offense attacker from Stanford, zero star, count them. Good name. Zero star, interior offensive lineman in the 2022 recruiting class from the state of California. He only played baseball, outfielder in first baseman, by the way, and basketball most of his entire high school career. He did not play football until his senior year of high school in which he played tight end

defensive end, and offensive tackle for three games before tearing his ACL. Okay. That is, that was his prep football resume. That is all he had to work with. And yet he wanted to pursue football over baseball and basketball still. He walked on at UCLA that gave him a walk on opportunity. Redshirted his first year. I think he barely played. his second year, but he worked to the point where he was on scholarship his second year. And then he transferred to Stanford.

And then did he start last year? I think last year was a situation where he was on the team and then kind of became a starter towards the end of the season, if I'm remembering this correctly. And now he's starting for the first time as a full-time starter this year. He's 6'7, 315 pounds.

So when you look at his numbers right now, they're not going to jump off the screen at you. 63 or 66.3 overall grade. He's allowed four sacks, four quarterback hits, four hurries this season. 62.5 run blocking grade. 66.7 pass blocking grade on true pass sets. And then against Miami, we see there.

Miami's got some good edge rushers. Akeem Mesidor, obviously, Ruby Mae Jr. 54.3 overall grade that we had this past week. Connor? I love this dude really I think the potential is through the roof for him I'm trying to not get I'm trying to not get ahead of myself because obviously the grades are what they are for a reason he's still need he is still working on really understanding how to counter pass rush moves he's still working on exactly like how many steps it needs to take to 45 set against somebody

that's going to attack his outside shoulder. How do I, you know, where do my hands land if somebody's, you know, trying to get an inside move on me? Am I hitting them with the outside of the inside hand? You know, when he's run blocking, sustaining those run blocks, getting his hands in the right spot to where he could really fight and continue to keep guys between his shoulder pads as he is driving his legs and moving them off the ball.

The consistency parts of his game still need work. But this dude has what it takes to play in the NFL. his posture is great the power and the size that he has in his lower half is NFL caliber his footwork is so fast he explodes off the ball he gives you so much speed the power when he is getting into his bull rushes or sorry not his bull rushes but his run blocking especially on downhill run blocking schemes and when it comes to pass protection the hands they're up they're strong they're fast the footwork again. is fast, it's balanced. He can anchor so quickly. He's got really strong grip to him. And you just look at this dude and he looks the part of an NFL offensive tackle. The consistency is not quite there for him. But Connor, I know that you go through this because you watch the Jets and you watch these college prospects. There are times when during the week, I'll go from like watching a prospect and watching a lot of college for a couple of hours or

whatever. And they'll be like, oh yeah, I need to study for the PFF NFL show tomorrow, whatever. I'll flip on NFL tape and I'll go, whoa. Okay, that's way faster. Yeah. Everything is just going so much faster. This dude plays at NFL speed with NFL strength and an NFL body type. And when it looks good for him, he looks starting caliber for an NFL offensive tackle. So an inconsistent player and somebody who haven't played a lot of football,

I know he's a red shirt junior, but I don't think he'll declare. So she would know high school experience, essentially. But when this guy declares, I think he is. is, uh, I think he's going to be, I think he's going to be starting NFL tackle at some point. I really do. Man, I, I like it. Um, this is somebody I have not watched yet. And I like that you vouched for the traits, despite the grades, because it's a good point,

how important, especially a tackle. And honestly, 66.7 on true pass set for a guy's raw as him is pretty good. Yeah. It just, that's evaluating tackle is just so different, man. Like, you're either, there's just so many guys, only so many guys that are built that way and can move that way. And then be as smart as you have to be to play offensive line. So now I want to kind of see the, you know. Go watch him, man.

Go turn on his tape and tell me that you're not, you're not intrigued about what he could bring to the table. I think, I think he's got NFL starting ability. I really do. It's funny with people like that. Sometimes you can watch like three pass sets and you're like, oh, I'm kind of. Yes. Yeah. He was one of those dudes where I watched five steps and I go, okay.

And you're like, all right, I know we're watching multiple. We'll fix the rest. Yeah. But we're in on this. So my last one is somebody that I do remember you bringing up in Tanner Coziel, the, the tight end out of Houston, who is a mammoth, as you see. I really have to say it, six foot seven inches, 250 pounds. The chat's just going to be.

I wish I didn't pick him now, honestly. Um, the receiving grade is what matters here. This guy is just, it's, it's ruined. It's ruined. 43 catches, one drop coming off a massive game against Arizona State and that Houston upset win. He had seven catches for 100 yards and a touchdown. His body control at his size, he really plays like a wide receiver, but just that

ridiculous tight end size. And he's got really good ball skills, really. good timing and contested situations the thing for him Trevor is he's such a work in progress on the line of scrimmage he's upright you could see right there he's still filling out and getting stronger because he as a you know once again a lot like he could he could weigh a lot more than this and you see him the effort is there on the line of scrimmage he just can't sustain blocks and sometimes it's hard for him to land on blocks he's lean yeah he's very lean he's very tall the the the comp at this point's basically a rida gasden right like that's what you would

want him so i'm watching him and i'm like god i'm so brainwashed by the couple weeks we've had of gasden being so amazing here that i'm getting so excited i'm like screw it he'll figure out to be good enough blocking you don't need to block in football get out there kid tight end screw it but man Yeah, Coziel, he's got real receiving, like translatable NFL receiving skills. He really does. Jack asked, what's his handicapping call? That's a bad. That is somebody who knows the pod.

Yeah, you're, yeah, you really, Jack is, Jack is here a lot. He gets it. Oh, about the six, seven thing. Jamie said, you guys should take a page out of the college. I'm assuming he means the PFF College show and just start lying about height to avoid. this just don't say i would i will start saying six eight or six six i will tanner cozill congrats you are now six foot eight also oz in the chat saying i've got a new penny offensive tackle just came across my desk goes by the name of quote prongos international currently making pass blocking

moves with huge NFL applications very limited downside here again new penny offensive tackle we appreciate you oh that's amazing uh All right. I'm going to hopefully say his last name correctly. Cade Uluave, their linebacker at Cal, who has been playing pretty well lately. And he is, I believe, top eight in the country, maybe top five in the country at total tackles. He got a shout out from the broadcast. Cal was playing, man, who were they playing this past weekend? Virginia Tech, I think?

Yes. They were playing Virginia Tech this past weekend. And they got a shout out on the broadcast for this guy as like a Heisman candidate. And I went, excuse me? Heism candidate linebacker in this economy. And so I was like, okay, well, I got to get him on the list. I got to watch him. He is a fun watch.

Now, he's 6'1, 235 pounds. He is small for an NFL linebacker. Because remember, we're not just talking about college football players. We're talking about future NFL guys here on this show. You can see some of the stats that he had against Virginia Tech. Really solid overall grade, coverage grade. run defense grade, 76.5 overall grade, 72.9 coverage grade, 71.7 run defense grade. He had two sacks, 11 tackles, which the 11 tackles go

right into his average. He's averaging more than 10 tackles a game throughout the nine weeks of this college football season. He's been starting since his true freshman season. He's only a true junior this year, so I'd be very surprised if he declared anyways. He played both running back and linebacker when he was in high school. He, these last two weeks, now, before these last two weeks, I think a lot of the of not being very big for a linebacker, not being able to get off blocks, you know, struggling to get through the line of scrimmage.

If you don't get there clean, or you really making an emphasis in the game, not super great in coverage because he is a downhill attacking linebacker. But boy, these last two weeks, he looks like a hot knife cutting through butter. Like, he is sifting through the line of scrimmage very, very well. It's like, you know how in the last couple of iterations of the,

the flash in the like the Justice League movies where when he you know starts to go fast it's not necessarily him going fast to everybody else going super slow that's how I feel like he has played over the last couple of weeks when he's been able to get into the backfield tackle running backs get to the quarterback all of that so as a pass rusher and it's somebody who is consistently rallying to the ball he just doesn't have a lot of mistackles he plays with a ton of energy he's kind of like this year's Sean Dolack a little bit which I don't know if that's sacrilegious for Brett Coleman, who I know Brett Coleman last year, love Sean Dolack, but maybe

Brett will get on here and I'll be like, don't you ever, ever compare anybody to Sean Dolack. Maybe I'll get that from him, but I felt it was a similar vibe watching the last two games from him. He's small for an NFL linebacker. He is still, if anything,

a day three linebacker. But it was fun. And he's somebody who I will get on the big board at some point for you guys to draft if you want to, but ultimately with him being a true junior, I don't think he's going to declare. I really don't I think I remember him a little bit when watching Teddy Buchanan last year it seems very very familiar he would have started next to him yeah yeah because there was a couple times where you know when you watch lineback you get excited the guy you're watching makes a play but then

you have to like zoom in and check the number a second time you're like oh it's another guy that made a kind of made a really good play so I do remember him a little bit um we haven't talked a ton of linebackers on this show so it's good to get it's good to get some more of that here I got to focus on K to Lava. There's a lot of reasons to watch Cal, I feel like, right now. Yeah, the quarterback who's name I cannot say, who I cannot pronounce at the moment. Well, we'll have to work on that, but I don't have to because he's not draft eligible yet. He seems like he rules as well.

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Silver Hammer Brewing. Thank you for the $10 super chat. Genesis Smith, Arizona, Jacob Rodriguez, Texas Tech to the Patriots. Maybe Peter can call Elliot. Wolf and make it happen. Jacob Rodriguez was a stock up player recently on this. So is, and Genesis Smith. I did it a couple of weeks ago. Yeah, yeah. I think they'd be good Patriots. I really do, especially with Kyle Dogger, not there. Although I will say, Jalen Hawkins and Craig Woodson, pretty nice safety duo you got there in New England. Underrated.

Not highly drafted, but underrated. No, Woodson was a good prospect. They just need a little bit more depth now in defense after those trades. Logan Aguilar, who I read in the chat that all of the addicts believe is related to Joey Aguilar. That makes sense. Logan has not confirmed or denied that yet. So we're obviously going to run with it as if it was a universal truth. If Sellers doesn't declare, do you see him transferring or staying at South Carolina? What offense would be best for him to thrive in?

Whatever the hell Shane Steichen's doing? Yeah, right. Honestly, like Shane Steichen, Brian Daibel, you know, like offenses that are very comfortable getting quarterbacks invested into the run game in more than just scrambles, you know, like intentional designed run carries. I think, yeah, I mean, Cliff could be somebody where that would make sense. Obviously, like, Cliff's got a great with Jaden. But yeah, those types of offenses, um, I actually think he's going to stay at South Carolina. I really do. Like, there was a stuff that happened this summer where, you know, he had offers to, what was it, like double his NIL money.

I don't think it was quite double, but like, make more NIL money. money elsewhere. And his parents, they were like, you don't need that. Like, you're in a great spot. You love South Carolina. You committed to South Carolina. You're making a lot of money for NIL. And so I don't think unless he just, unless they believe South Carolina is going to be very bad next year, which I'm not convinced it's going to be the case. I think you're going to make a lot of changes. I don't think he leaves. So, yeah. Enter new name here or enter name here. Thank you for the $15 super chat. Hey, fellas. What percentage of each part of a scout, of scouting a player means the most season film 50% stats 20% combine pro day 10% and senior role 10% what's the

most important a fellow Peter oh okay another Peter I don't I don't it's different it's case by case for every single player sure for sure like there's a guy say that I watch and go man I like the film I like the instincts the production's been good I don't know if he can run at an NFL caliber level. So then maybe for me, that Combiner Pro Day is going to mean a little bit more. And then there's the other way around where you look at, look at Ruben Hippolyte, who we talked about Monday, to call back to him. After he tested, I was like, I have to go back and watch this guy because he was like, it ran one of the freakyest 40 times for a linebacker we've seen in a while. So all of a sudden, I had all the numbers in front of me, but I'd never watched the players all 22.

I'm looking at the numbers right now. Hell, I'm looking at the stats right now. And then the tape mattered a lot. So it is truly, not to like, you know, cop out of that question, but it's, it's truly a case by case. I put, I don't, I try to be careful with how much I put into All-Star games. I really do. Yeah. That's a dangerous trap that early in my career, I weighed too much on and I've scaled back. And to be honest, I, one, Peter, I think it's a great question because a lot of, I know a lot of people out there who watch and listen to this prospect, or, are, podcast you guys love evaluating prospects as well like i know the whole reason why a lot of you

uh do this is because you sort of do it on your own and so i i love when we get these questions and i think my answer to that question would be it's not really as segmented as sort of the and not to say it's a bad question because i think it's a great question that a lot of people would ask the same but like for example the combine in the pro day you have to you have to see the combine in the pro day in the film because if you don't, then the combine in the pro day don't matter at all. You mentioned for Ruben Hippolyte. Okay, really great athlete. Does that show

up on film to make a really good football player? Because if it does, then you don't really care. Then it's just kind of fake numbers that we see there from his athleticism. Senior Bowl, I think Senior Bowl, you know what Senior Bowl and Shrine Bowl are the best for is playing different positions.

Playing in in, you guys snap. In offenses or defenses that you didn't play in in college. So like, that's sort of the point of all-star games and then like stats even stats we say this a pf all the time like you've got to be able to marry the stats in the film you have to be able to take the stats that you see from a numerical standpoint and watch it come to life on the film so to really to answer the question the answer is actually 100% film like that's that's my answer to the question

and then the little pieces of affirmation that you get throughout the draft season really just has to point back to the film. Were you super fast at the combine? I better see you super fast on tape in a meaningful football way. Were you able to be versatile at the senior bowl? I better be able to see signs of that

when you played an actual football game. Did you have a super high passers win percentage when guys were in true past sets? I better be able to see that on the film and you winning cleanly and you winning quickly in ways that are impactful. That would be my answer to that question. I like it.

Dante, $20 super chat says, just throwing up my support you legend. We appreciate it, Dante. Thank you. Ty, saying, have you guys heard of or watched Drew Nesemaker from North Texas? North Texas is going off, aren't they? Well, their offense is always sick. He's got a super interesting story, didn't play a single snap of quarterback in high school,

and now he's leading the country in passing yards. Well, got to pay attention to him. He was a, I don't think he's eligible yet. I think he's only a red shirt. He's a redshirt freshman. But he was a punter and safety in high school. had to walk on. I love the versatility of punter and safety.

And now he's statistically one of the most productive quarterbacks in college football. So that man, the ball was snapped. He punted it as high as he possibly could in the air. And he just took off like a heat-seeking missile. Immediately the safety kicked in. The second the ball left his foot, I'm Brian Dawkins now. Predator instinct. I pray to the Lord Almighty that you do not put your hand up and wave it.

Because if not, I'm coming for your soul. I love that. And I was just chucking that thing around the yard. Oh, man, that's the good stuff. Ty Kendall, thank you for the $10. Oh, that was the Drew one. Jaron, uh, no, Jair, none cares. Okay.

Thank you for the super chat. Drake, Drake, Drake May, May. Very nice. I've never agreed with it more. Very good. I love it. Rodney, $5 Super Chat. I only scout G5 guys ahead of the draft.

That's a real, that's a real, that's a real, that's a real, that's a real ball, no, I like your style. And we need to have a discussion about Evan Simon, going to be a thin quarterback draft with certain guys returning, watch out. Who's he played for? I'll watch out. Rodney, let's know, Evan Simon. I mean, I could cool of this, but.

I will, just so we can shout out for the Attacks Temple. I don't think that's the first time we've been asked about Evan Simon, so I will have to watch. All right. Uh, Chase Davis, thank you for the $10 super chat Jackson DART and Drake May. All right. We're getting a couple of Jackson Darts in there. Yep. All right.

Kyle, $5 super chat. About to lose service on my way home from work. Can't wait to have Connor and Trev's face frozen on my phone for the next 20 minutes. Oh, love that. At least it's not my internet this time. Hal Shallow. Thank you for the $5 super chat. Carter, we got two from him here.

Carter Smith, offensive tackle Indiana has a pass blocking grade in the 90s. What do you think about him? I've seen him blow up in our system. Yeah, I've watched a ton of Indiana, but you know why I've been watching the Indiana offense. So what? Who? Fernando Mendoza? Fernando Mendoza. Yeah. Brother, hold on. Wait, wait, wait. Don't say that so insulting. That was. We got, I acted like you were an idiot there. That's not nice. We got the Mendoza. Yeah, why don't you take it easy, champ? I take it back, buddy.

Yeah, why didn't you take it easy, pal. It was a big dog mistake by me. We got the Mendozer. We got Omar Cooper Jr. We got Elijah Serrat. Yeah, Surratt's a good call yeah yeah and also how um to your super chat answer i like carter smith coming into the season i don't think he has the length to play offense tackle at the NFL i'd love him at center i've thought from the very beginning he'd be a really good convert to center so i would love to see him at center um hal doubled up on the super chat so thank you yeah uh brendan five dollar super chat need y'all to get eyes on adam trick the defense event from miami of ohio he leads the country and quarterback hits and is a top 10 rush defense hurries and two force fumbles and also an interception wow

Wow. Okay. He will make, as Chris Jericho says, he just made the list. Marcus Fagerstrom. Marcus Fagerstrom. Thank you for the super chat. Longtime fan from Sweden and depressed Bengals fan. Wow. Sorry, Marcus.

Sweden. All the way in Sweden. We appreciate you. Mood has been as bad as Duke Tobin's draft history, but at least Connor doesn't have to go winless. Thank, Marcus. That is very selfless super chat. So thank you.

Shout out to Sweden. We appreciate it. Thank you. $2.2 super chat. Austin. Saravelt. O.G. 1.

Shoot, I kind of like him to tackle. He's played so good at left tackle. Ethan O'Neonwa doesn't even start for them. And he was a summer scouting guy for me. Yeah, he was. Can I take this next one? Because I watch this player. Yeah, please.

Another amazing name. Hezekiah Massis, the cornerback from Cal. Let me pull up my notes. Hold on. Hold on. I can't remember if I had him as his own corner or a man corner. I had him as a zone corner. Okay, so he's a senior from Cal, six feet tall, 180 pounds, so he's pretty, he's pretty

slender, to be honest with you. Super light on his feet. This is a strength and weakness is really quick. Very light on his feet, very quick in his back pedal, has great change of direction. Seems to have a very high coverage IQ for match coverages, route anticipation, very smooth with all that stuff. High ball production this year, arm length seems to match this 6 foot, 6 foot 1 height that he is listed at.

The weaknesses, lower weight profile, not ideal for me. the NFL level. He's quicker than he is fast. That's why he plays a lot in off zone coverage. Lacks that true recovery speed if his anticipation isn't on point. And his run defense, it's just not his forte. But I think he's a really smart defender in an off zone coverage type of scheme. I think he'd be a really good asset for you. And her name here with another $15 super chat. Thank you so much. This is another Peter, by the way. He signed off on his last one. Thanks for answering my question. I've been a long time listener and addict. sending big love from Melbourne, Australia,

keep up the good work. Shout out to Australia, man. Love it. Job with the $2 super chat. Love the Goatmeyer talk. There it is. There it is. We had to get it in there for you.

And then Ross, $5, super chat. When are we getting Connor to this first pro wrestling event? I don't know. Have you ever been to a, have you ever watched wrestling like live in person? I've never, I've never been to anything,

WWE, a house show, nothing. I walked into a bar outside. to Tampa, Florida once, and WWE broke out. And there was a, there was a live wrestling event going on. Oh my God, it's the most Florida thing of all time. And I walk in the door and to the right

is a, it's kind of like a mini ring. It wasn't like a full ring, but it's like a table, ladders, and chairs is to you right. There's basically, happy hours left. There were just, there were just two rows of metal chairs around, around each

around each side of the ring. There were probably like 25 people there and they were getting rowdy, you know, peanuts, beer going all over the place and, uh, yeah, I mean, it was, it was, we weren't there that long. We were just popping in, but, uh, it was actually pretty fun.

That's amazing. I think if I ever, if the Royal Rumble was ever in the tri-state area, that would move the needle for me. I would love to go to the Royal Rumble. I feel like it is, right? They, I think they changed. good about it they changed like they've had

WrestleMania obviously at MSG a couple times yeah I'm definitely do it's something I've never would be sick it's something I've never done the tough thing is I know you're the same way I don't keep up in this era at all it's been so long so I know so few people

but uh I still would have a hell of a time it'd be awesome uh imagine living above that bar and it's just hell in a cell Thursdays you're studying for a test on Tuesday night, and the hardcore title is on the line. I can't do my homework, because somebody got thrown onto a pile of tax again. Oh my God.

Unbelievable. Okay, let's do the two new names before we get out of here. I'm dead, dude. They should make that an Airbnb. That would be the good news. Oh, my. Bachelor Party Haven. Sleeps 8?

Dude, you'd make so much money. Downstairs is nightly wrestling. Dude. Oh my gosh. I'm actually mad that you said this on the podcast. This is an unreal business idea. I mean, million dollar. operation immediately.

Hell, in its cell Thursdays, I can't get over. Hell in a cell Thursdays. Can you imagine the makeshift bullshit cell that would exist in a bar? It would look like a chicken coop. I think that's a chicken coop they got at Home Depot. Holy hell, man. Some dude swinging from the lights and absolutely missing. the entire structure lands in the iron chairs that are on the outside of the ring.

Oh, man, that's the good stuff. Yeah, that's where, so that's where the, that's where the first NFL-S-E meet-up's going to be. We'll do the, we'll do the pod right before Hell and Sell Thursdays, obviously, at whatever this bar is. I need to look it up. All right, my new name. You ready? Yeah. Yeah.

You know, just, uh, somebody that. Yeah, I didn't know anything about, although he's been playing for a while. Keante Scott, the corner for Miami, but he's kind of a do-it-all DB in their defense, mostly playing the slot. Keante Scott is a 60-year redshirt senior. He transferred, he started his career at Snow College, and then he transferred to Auburn. He started for Auburn for a couple years. He's a really good punt returner for Auburn. And now his last year of eligibility, he's on this very good Miami team.

And Trevor, he is phenomenal against the run. You see it right there, the 91.6 run defense grade for a guy playing the slot. He's just such a good. That's what you want, baby. He's so aggressive. He's a good tackler. He has 12 solo stops this year. Get this, seven TFLs against the run.

I'm writing this guy's named out immediately. Kiante Scott, man. Miami's defense has just been breakout after breakout after breakout. Really cool to see this guy having a great final college season. Dude, I absolutely love it because we've talked about this a lot on this show, and I think it's a point that's worth repeating. You, if you are a corner that plays in a slot, you have to be able to defend the run. You have to.

It's non-negotiable. You are closer to the line of scrimmage. Gone are the days where your slot corner is just your third best corner. And you go like, ah, yeah, okay, like you're going to go up against their third best wide receiver or whoever it is. You are a pivotal part of defensive structure if you are the, slot or apex defender. And you have to be able to defend the run. That is why, going back to two years ago, I had Cooper DeGine as high as I did as a top 10 player in the class. Bingo. Not because I thought that he was for sure an outside corner at the NFL level,

but it's because I knew that if he wasn't an outside corner at the NFL level, he'd be an incredible slot defender at the NFL level because he could tackle because he could defend the run because he was so strong. And he's big for. that cornerback position. And obviously he's been pretty good for the Eagles. You know, laying in a good spot, obviously. But he has been great because he has had that baseline. So I'm watching this dude immediately, 100%.

The guy that I'm bringing to the table, I did not find this guy myself. Shout out Brandon Thorne, who we shout it all the time here on this podcast. We're the best out there. Cover an offensive line guy specifically. He's got a great substack, Trent Warfare, Stubstack. You guys can go check that out. I subscribe to it.

And this is actually where I found. this guy because he's starting to get into his offensive line analysis for the 2026 NFL draft and he shouted out in aim as a guy who is kind of like a you know like all right day three type of a guy but somebody that you're excited about Georgia Tech offensive guard keelan rutledge and brandon was talking about how consistent no but the the good plays who baby their NFL level good plays so growing up he was a three sport athlete in high school football basketball and track, played both offensive and defensive line when he was in high school. He was a two-time all-state selection in basketball has over a thousand career rebounds and points. He was a state

champion and a shot put with a throw of 53 feet and four inches. He committed to Middle Tennessee at a high school as an offensive lineman. Played at Middle Tennessee, I believe two years and now he has started at Georgia Tech over the last two years. This dude's big. You see it there. Six-foot-four, 330 pounds, and he plays like it. He is a downhill run game, man and gap scheme type of an offensive lineman that wants to move you off the ball. When he gets you in between the shoulder pads, he absolutely wants to bury you outside of the play. The strengths, I'll just go through strengths and weaknesses again for him because he is in the PFF, big board, and you could draft him in the mock draft simulator if you guys want.

NFL caliber frame, a lot of mass around the chest and the midsection. I mean, he is just a burly, big dude. Phone booth fighter type of an offensive tackle. If you are between his shoulders and somebody's like, hey, I'm going to bullrush this guy. He goes, oh, thank God. And he actually then gets to, you know, give you a couple of shots. And he gets to fight with you. And often he's not given up very much ground, especially from a past protection standpoint. And he'll, he'll put you on a sled if he's, if he's run blocking and he gets you in between his shoulders. He plays the very physical mindset. He wants to make strong contact every single play, ideal downhill type of an interior player. If you're running a power run game and you want

this you want tone setters in the middle this dude is for you now the weakness is i think the arm length looks short even for a guard and interior player he's got a tendency to overrun his landmarks or just where he should be to stay in front of pass rushers and a lot of times they can go into his inside shoulder and beat him easily that way sometimes i think he's more interested than burying a defender than really walling them off and kind of continuing to play right there are sometimes instances where he'll climb to the second level or for example like he might be part of a duo block and he's more interested in there there were a couple of plays where he he's more interested in burying the dude that he's taking on from a duo block perspective but then the guy

he's supposed to climb to is free and he makes the tackle not long after that so there's a couple of instances of that nature where he's a little bit more he's a little bit more worry a little bit more focused on bearing dudes instead of maybe making another block or walling guys off and climb into the next level, which I would like for him to be a little bit more conscious of. He's a bit tight and slow out of his stance as a puller, so on, you know, counter plays. It takes him a little bit to get out of his stance and really fire and get on the move.

And I think the weight can look a little bit top heavy at times. He can get a little bit off balance if you give him a good shot to the chest. So somebody who power offensive guard through and through. And if he continues to develop, I think he's got the power profile. to be able to be a starter at the NFL level, but he's got to round out his game, and he's got to mitigate some of those mistakes. But a fun player in Keelan Rutledge,

the offensive guard from Georgia Tech. I'm putting them in the sheet, man. Just that big burly build with a nasty demeanor. That's a great foundation to start with. Yeah, absolutely. Kegan in the chat said, Keelan, hell in a cell Rutledge. I mean,

yep. You can't wrap up the podcast any better. The glass case of emotion Rutledge. Last couple of super chats Here from you guys Brandon $5. He said, I'm terrified of the day

when Trevor laughs so hard on the podcast He falls out of his chair. I hope that day comes because that just means that I'm enjoying the hell out of the show which I always do.

Thoughts on Jair Hill from Michigan. I think I watched him at the beginning of the year, but I don't have thoughts off the top of my head. So he's had one of the we've had Michigan a couple of times. Okay.

He's 6-2, so he's got good size. He's pretty physical in coverage. He almost gets like, he gets grabby but he's more just trying to disrupt routes Trevor in our system he has four dropped picks so I watched them and I saw a couple of them live during a broadcast three of them are legitimately like got he could have had multiple pick sixes

and he makes so many plays on the ball I think he has eight fourths in completions which is the positive he makes great plays on the ball he's just always so close to having the game changing play and he just hasn't finished them. Okay. All right. Dude, he's a 20-year-old prospect, so he's got time.

He's got time to really become a high-end player. Northside Coup said, $5 Super Chat. We appreciate you. Said, just join the addicts. Love to have you. Welcome to the family, my friend. Hell yeah, you're in. He said, was that the Rutgers game,

and Aeth and Calliak Manus looked fantastic. This past week, did he? I didn't see anything for Rutgers this past week. Yeah, I haven't watched this tape from this week, but I mean, you know how much, know how much i loved him he the stuff at the beginning of the year was uh was pretty great really was yeah i mean it's stat line against perdu pretty flawless appreciate all you guys oh uh ronnie uh for the two dollar super chat clarifying evan simon yep temple place for temple 21 touchdown zero interceptions

my goodness my goodness i love to see that welcome to the cracked end welcome to this thickness don't encourage these people i can't i just read what's there no we love you guys we really do these people anything you put on that chat burgundy will read I will read it thank you guys so much for joining us here on this latest episode of Stockwatch you make these a lot of fun if you want to follow the show on

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franchise appreciate all the love that you guys gave on the the topic that we had on Monday, which was the best and worst early returns that we have for the NFL draft. But I feel like we got to get back to fixing a franchise because we're going to have a couple that we really need to get to before we really dive in a draft season. So probably fixing a franchise here might depend on what the Jets and the Dolphins do. The Jets are on a buy. Oh, the Dolphins play Thursday night and they are seven and a half point underdogs to the Ravens.

It might be time. Could be the dolphins. It might be time. This take it age horribly. When I saw that line, I'm like, damn, seven to a half points. Like, Miami's, they're playing better. I don't hate it. And I was like, trapline, Ravens.

Yeah, I don't hate it. Trapline Ravens. I'm taking the Ravens. Yeah. But we'll see. Yeah, we'll see. So it'll be, I think it'll be a fixture franchise. 85% sure it'll be a fixture franchise.

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