Nightcap - Best of Indiana CFP Title Run Part 1: Hoosiers DOMINATE Bama, Crush Oregon's Hopes

Episode Date: January 25, 2026

Shannon Sharpe and Chad “Ochocinco” Johnson deliver the best moments from Indiana's historic College Football Playoff run from the Rose Bowl to the Natty. Subscribe to Nightcap presented by PrizePicks so you don’t miss out on any new drops! Download the PrizePicks app today and use code SHANNON to get $50 in lineups after you play your first $5 lineup! Visit https://prizepicks.onelink.me/LME0/NI... 0:00 - Indiana Def. Alabama in the Rose Bowl16:07 - Indiana Def. Oregon in Semifinal31:31 - Miami Def. Ole Miss in Semifinal (Timestamps may vary based on advertisements.) #ClubSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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Fernando Mendoza three touchdown. Indiana earns its first bowl game since 1991. The Hoosiers advanced to face Oregon in the semifinals. Hizman Trophy winner Fernando Mendoza threw for 192 yards, three touchdowns, while the defense held Alabama to 193 yards. Man, Alabama ain't got no speed.

I ain't know. Their defense looked so slow. Their skill, everything on office, they, they was moving in mud. Indiana was flying. Mm-hmm. It was all over the-thes-thous-flying. Mm-hmm. And, hey, y'all take off.

What did you see? Man, this is kind of the same Alabama team we've seen all year. I mean, at times they've looked good, but they had to spite and claw to win the Iron Bowl. They had times throughout the season where they look terrible. This is still a team that lost to Florida State to open the season. Just a very inconsistent team. I think Ty Simpson at times throughout this year, we've praised on this show. We've praised his play.

We've praised his poise at times making big throws. That wasn't the same guy today. And you got to give a lot of credit to Signetti, the way he has Indiana playing, a lot of heart flying around the field. They're determined. They're focused. Obviously, Mendoza has to feel extremely confident with the way that he's playing football right now. You knock off Ohio State, you go and smack Alabama.

You're just looking at this situation like next up. They almost seem to me like a little bit of team of fate of destiny to do something for them in their program that hasn't been done ever. And I think everybody in that locker room has bought in. And since the Penn State game, we really haven't seen them slip up very much. You know, I think I've made a lot of noise about was Mendoza deserving of the highest man, was he the best player in the country and all that? You put that to bed and put that to rest because you have the trophy now.

His is sitting in his room or in his house or wherever it is. Now you go out and solidify it. And you know how you solidify that? running the table and going undefeated and winning a national championship and doing two things that have never really been done in Indiana on the football side. Yeah, I agree. A. A. OCHO.Signetti also was at Alabama. Yeah?

Yeah. He was an assistant under Coach Saban. So both coaches that was in the Ole Miss Georgia game? Yes. Was that Alabama? The University of Crystal Ball, he was at Miami. Signetti, he was at Alabama. Dan Lannning, he's at Alabama. Right.

Ain't an accident. It's not an accident. What did you see in this game, Ocho? Alabama looked awful. Other than they looked awful, what did you see? I mean, listen, the game was one up front. Defense, on? Defense.

Indiana, they all over the place. May Ty Simpson, uncomfortable, all goddamn day long. I'm not sure if Indiana's defense and offense is moving that fast or just Alabama's offense and defensive players were just that slow. I see the skill players. They weren't effective. And almost to a point is like, it's Alabama, did they really belong here? Did they really belong in the playoffs to begin with with the way they look tonight?

I mean, early, earlier today. Obviously, I understand Indiana hasn't lost all season long. They look really good all season long. and they played up the par and put everybody else, everybody also noticed that we are serious. What you saw last year from us, we are the real deal. What you saw from us during the regular season?

Yes, that is us and we can play with the best. And they proved today in a thrashing of Alabama. It just, it almost, it was a lopsided game on. It was a lopsided game to the point where I was like, why is Alabama even out here in the goddamn, begin with? I agree. I can't recall, and I've been watching Alabama a long time. I remember when Coach Bryant actually coached Alabama.

So that's how far I've been watching Alabama. And I told you all earlier this year, I've never seen the Alabama team look like this team. They're big, they're slow. Yeah. They're slow. Alabama, I mean, their defense, there's nothing. When you, there used to be things,

there are things that you could look at Alabama and says, okay, they're special. You look at their offensive line and defensive line. They used to be littered with first round pick special. You look at their wide receiver groups, special. You look at their DVs, special. You look at their linebacker, special. You tell me one thing that's special about Alabama,

office, defense, or special teams. Tell me one thing, chat, that you guys have seen all year long that says, okay, that's a special player. That's a special unit. Nothing. Nothing jumps out at you. Absolutely nothing. Boy, they got...

Alabama fans, the alumni, boosters probably said that we show we should have took that job at Michigan and leave us to hell alone. Yeah. Damn. It was bad. It was bad. And I think the thing is maybe...

People are like, well, man, them days... No, it's not. That's Alabama. Those days are never over. Yeah. It's just like Michigan. It's just like Ohio State. There's still a standard.

They're not going to settle because... Coach Saban's not there or Coach Brian's not there. Go ahead. Hey, Uncle, Johnny, you know, we talk about the standard, about Alabama having a standard when Coach Saban coach there. Well, obviously, when Coach Saban coach there, NIA wasn't active. Everyone wanted to go to Alabama. The players, think about all the receivers.

At one point, they were receiving university, huh? They filtered one after the other. Running backs, filtered one after the other, having one of the best defensive. They all filtered one after another going into the draft. So everybody wanted to go there. Now with NIL is even the playing field. So all the players are going all over the place. So now everybody, everybody is good.

Everybody's getting those five-star, four-star players now. So now coaching comes into play even that much more because you're not getting the best of the best. Now it makes it by easier when you got the best receivers. You got the best de-line. You get the best defensive backs. You get the best safeties. Now when you're not and it's going all over, the place, every team is sprinkled in some five stars.

So now other factors coming to play when it comes time to plan and competing. I guess you really looked at Ohio State when they had the Bosa brothers, when they had Chase Young, and they had all those guys. It wasn't no NIL. When they had Zeke Elliott. When they had Vernon Goldster. And Denzel War. When they had Denzel War, what's the one they got, he went to a, he went to a, he

to Detroit. The DB. No, no, no, no. He was from Ohio State. Jeff Okuda. Okuda. Yeah. There wasn't no NIL.

So don't pretend like Alabama was the only one getting them down top players. Ohio State was getting them. Because remember, they went defensive rookie of the year, defensive rookie of the year, defense and rookie of the year. Let me take some. They went with Joy Bosa.

They went with Chase Young. They went with Nick Bosa. Okay, let me tell you something. Let me tell you some real quick. I think it was NIH. back then too, huh, on, John? I mean, just now, can I have a hold on you for a bit? They went to the front door, this time they just walked through the front door.

That's the only difference. There we go. There we go. All right. You said it before I can get it out. You said it. I will say one thing. That's the only difference, Johnny.

Yeah, it adds, for all that's wrong in NIL right now and people are frustrated about it and there needs to be a lot of changes. The one thing that it has done is create parity in different teams getting into the playoff. Absolutely. What we wanted. We were tired of seeing the. same teams in every year.

Same national championships, same matchups. Georgia, Alabama. Alabama, Clemson, Alabama. You know, same thing. So it has added to where the talent pool is definitely spread out. Now, do the players have too much power now to do whatever they want? And I saw, I think Sark saying this the other day, is like, we're dealing with kids who are leaving, you know, before the bowl game or whatever.

And we go and talk to their agent. and their agent may be their roommate sitting down the couch with them. So, like, you don't know what's going on. There definitely needs to be some changes. And it's going to take some regulation. It's going to take a guy like Nick Saban to come in and oversee a committee. And they're going to have to find some rules on how to do it. And it's going to take somebody really powerful like that to make the changes that are necessary.

John Calipari went on a seven-minute rant the other day after the game. And it was all time for what he's dealing with on the college basketball side. And I will say this as well. I can't believe I'm going to say it. But even though Notre Dame's taking their ball and going home and running off, they would have put up a better fight today than Alabama for sure. Yeah. Well, are you going to do with getting the carvers and play somebody?

That's very true. You just got to play somebody. And I think that with the NIL, they just go to show you. You can get good in the hurry. Now, it's not so much the NIL because, but you got to spend the money on the right places. It's all about location, location, location. Just because you open up a restaurant, it can be great food. But if it's out in the middle of nowhere,

ain't nobody traveling way, way out there. You got to have, you know, you won't foot traffic. You want people, oh, let's try this place. You get the right. You see what happened with Texas Tech. You got a quarterback. They got Mendoza. Indiana got Mendoza.

Yeah. Ole Miss got Chamblis. Mm-hmm. Miami got back. Mm-hmm. Yep. Didn't Oregon's guy a transfer to? I think so.

I think Oregon's got a transfer also. But you can get good in a hurry. Yes. If you get the right people. Everybody thinks, well, hey, he transferred from UCLA. So you see? Yeah, quick. I mean, look, what do you think Lane Kiffin's going to do next year when he gets to LSU?

You think he's not going to poach a quarterback from somewhere first and foremost? You guarantee you what he's doing right now. You know, Johnny, it's about to, they're about to do away with spring ball because all guys are doing the spring ball is getting the tape, cutting it up and sending it out. Say, okay, what's you got for me? Pretty soon, it ain't going to be no spring ball like you and I had in the spring. Hey, I see you come summer. Don't worry about it.

That's where you make a lot of your development, though. I mean, that's where you grow a lot as a football player. Is that time from January to May? Those are some of your biggest. gains in the weight room and your in your technique and what you do i know for me you know from first year to second year i have my biggest growth from that off season and spring ball and getting more comfortable in the offense and more camaraderie with your guys so you know i think it just takes you know your development back a little bit because you're playing the business and that's what's

changed so much about college football is that you better go get this bread because you're not guaranteed at the next level so you may as well stick around in college and for as long as you can. Get your bag up, get a good financial advisor, and save your chicken, for sure. But see, that's the thing, Johnny. You see how you made, you say you made yours from February to May. Somebody else would have came and said,

oh, he did make some development. We got $3 million for him. And then bye, bye, Johnny. See? So that's why they do it away with Spring Ball. Because I agree with you. I got so much better from that time I got an opportunity to hit the waves and got an opportunity to really work on

what I needed to work on. on Ochoe getting out there every day competing. And I could feel like, man, I'm getting better and getting better and getting better. But you get these guys, Ocho, they're getting better and better. And they say, you know, get me a little cut up. And they send their practice tape off. Oh, that kid works out. Oh, he's going to start for us.

That's $7.50. That's a million dollars. They already talking about top quarterbacks going for three and a half to five million. Ocho, a 19-year-old, 20-year-old, three and a half to five million? Yeah, absolutely. And when you think about it, too, Johnny, the fact that these quarterbacks, that they're not proven to a point where they're going to come to your program

and make that much of a significant difference and they're getting that kind of money. So the pressure is on the pressure is on them. Once they get the money and, oh, I'm a four-star, I'm a five-star, based on where you come from, based on what you did in high school, and you come to these huge entities in organizations, and they put all that pressure on you. Well, hell, we pay you that kind of money. You got to come and make a difference right away.

Yeah, I mean, look at Carson Beck. Look at Carson Beck. For example, not to mention just the money that you're making, right? He's in Florida. He's not paying state income tax. He's seeing a lot of that bread. On top of that, there ain't no way he's paying for a car. And I see him in the cluster at Liv.

He ain't paying for no bottles. He's going out for free. Everything else. You're walking in. Alumni sees you at dinner. I went to dinner with Diego Pavia this year. I looked. It was like a $1,500, $2,000 bill.

he ain't paid none of that. So the perks you're getting on top of the money you're getting, if you're really smart about it, you can leave college. If you're a guy like that after three years, you can have $12, $14 million cash all day. Yeah. Yeah.

And but that's the thing. That's what you need to have happen, guys. And I don't begrudge the guys. The only thing. And if you look at it not, John and Ocho, teams are really not going after the high school guys like they once did. They want a guy that's already established. She already knows the college routine.

He knows he has study hall. He knows he has, you know, weightlifting and things of that nature. So he's already abreast of the college experience. Yeah. As opposed to getting somebody in that doesn't really understand college. You hope they figure it out. They're mature enough. But let me get somebody that's already gone through this.

You know, that three to five million dollars. The top receiver is going to go to one, probably somewhere between $750 and $2 million, maybe even $3 million. Yeah. Man, hey, I ain't got no problem with it. But you see what's going to happen, Ocho. It's just kind of a very similar situation to like the Georgia kid. You got the money and then left.

George is suing him. Yes. Hey, when it comes to that situation, Uncun-Johnny, with George is suing him for actually leaving because he got the money and decided to leave, who's going to win that? We don't know. That's why they go in the court. Somebody will set a precedent for it and it'll kind of go off of that moving forward.

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I would have been going to Rice or Sam Houston. Yeah, and played one year there, and then guess what? Did he came back and dumped the bag in your lap and you'd have been in Texas and say in the Yeah, and then I would have been somewhere else the next year and then somewhere else my senior year too. A new year doesn't mean erasing who you were. It means honoring what you've survived and choosing how you want to grow. It means giving ourselves permission to feel what we've been holding and knowing that it's okay to ask for help. I'm Mike Dolorotia, host of Sacred Lessons.

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In what conversation? He should be in it. Listen to Broken Play with Nav Green from the Black Effect Podcast Network on the Iheart Radio app. Apple Podcasts or whatever you get your podcast. Hey. Indiana Hoosier blow out the Oregon Ducks by the score of 56 to 22. The Hoosiers will face now there's only two. Indiana Hoosier will face the Miami Hurricanes for the national championship on January to 19th.

Indiana has beaten his two playoff opponents by the combined score of 94 to 25. The blowout started early in the game. DeAngelo Pons, who came on the show earlier this year, picked off DeBonte Moore

on the first offensive series of the game, returned at 25 yards, Oregon tied the game up. Moore showed me something because he threw a pick and then he came back and answered. And then IU went on a 35 unanswered run, point run,

and that was really the ball game. Just too many turnovers. Indiana is just far too good. They're a very well-coached team. Offensive line, defensive line took the ball game over. And those receivers, they don't have big names, but they catch everything. They high point everything.

This was a really, a really, really, really well-coached football team. They're really disciplined. And I know everybody's talking about the youth's back, but you got their hands full, Locho. Oh, yeah, absolutely. Not only do they have their hands full, Uncle. University of Mind, what we saw from them when they played last night is they had turnovers.

Yes. They had turnovers. And this is the exact same thing. I felt when it came to this game, it would come down to not only the quarterback playing Dante Moore and Brother Mendoza, but it would also come down to the turnovers. And long behold, the first game, the goddamn outright, quick out route, mind you, he already ended, he in the gun. So the goddamn DB is not moving. Oh, Joe, you came on the dog, man. and the toes to be he throws the late and throws it behind you see him rotate safety safety

shoes back they rock go down to the other side that's man free uh-huh he's off he's clueling he don't even get out his back panel didn't even budge didn't he didn't they put him in motion what now or with the spot because if you think about because he he tried to run a speed yeah he tried to run a speed out yeah deep pawns would just he took one step and drove. He ran the out and up your head. But you ran the out. Oh, yeah.

Yeah. It's unfortunate. Carson Baker is going to have to play, not saying, play perfect. He's going to have to play damn near perfect. You can't turn the ball. They put so much pressure on you on both sides of the ball, Ocho.

They got in front. They dominate both lines of scrimmage. And that's what the U tries to do. So it's going to be. immovable object, irresistible force. Something's got to give. Yeah, absolutely. Hey, uh, I remember watching Mendoza down here in Miami.

God damn it. I remember watching Mendoza down here in Miami, Unk, at Columbus High School. I didn't know Mendoza would be what he is today. I had no idea he would be this good. If you look at some of the throws he was able to make, some of the throws that attribute to some of the quarterbacks that let you know they're going to be good. He's throwing a goddamn comeback route off the left half to the wide side of the field on the money. His ball placement all game long was phenomenal.

On those same plays with Dante Moore through interception at the beginning of the game, every outrouty through where it was on the short side of the wide side of the field, the ball placement was perfect. Throwing receivers open. Even if they were covered, the ball. placement. Back shoulders, high point. The receiver's,

you see how they high point the ball? Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. But it's only where his guy can catch it. Mm-hmm. It's going to be a completion or it's going to be incomplete. He's not going to be picked. No balls even came close to getting picked. He was sensational.

They were all night long. Man, I'm looking at Coach Signette on the sideline. If he, uh, if he's like this and they're winning the ball game, I hate to see him when he gets upset. Yeah. Hey, he don't show no kind of emotion.

He got his hands on his heel. What about that? I'm like, are you happy? Hey, the camera pan to him after a touchdown, he showed nothing. The sideline going crazy behind him, stone cold killer face. That's it. But Mendoza was very good. Hey, the job is not finished.

Go ahead. Go ahead. What you're saying? No, I was just saying the job is not finished. That's the mentality and the mindset and his body language. That's what it showed. The job's not finished. There's no reason for me to be celebrating.

Oh, yeah. You can celebrate that. I mean, you can't get to the job if you didn't finish this job. I mean, you got to all that means you have another task. It's kind of like when you're growing up, if you grow up on the farm, there's always something for you to do. You can move the animals from one pen to another. You can grind feed.

There's always something for you to do. But you must finish said task first before you move. before you move on to another task. So win the Big Ten. Okay, get to the Big Ten Championship. He won that. He won the first, you know, get a buy, and then they win the next game.

So now you advance to the Chick-fil-A Peach Bowl. Now, the ultimate, you get to play for the National Championship, something you've never won. You've never been in that situation. And they're a good team. He's an unbelievable. This might be, I mean, they might need to do a story. Because we've never seen a turnaround happen this quick.

not what a team that's been this historically bad. I mean, they've been historically bad. I'm talking about historically, historically. I'm talking about like bad news bears bad. Hold on. The funny thing about it, Indiana is a basketball school. This is the basketball school. When is the last time we've seen the basketball school dominate like this

the entirety of a season? No, we have it. The entirety of a season and beat everyone. I'm not sure if a lot of people, if they were gamblers, if they were better, and they bet on college football, how many people had Indiana to be in this position throughout the season?

How many? To be able to make it, to be undefeated, they'd be playing in a national championship in Miami. Before Peyton Manning got to Indy, they were known for basketball in the Indy 500. Right. Then Peyton Manning come, and then all of a sudden they got excited about football.

And he gave him a reason to be excited. Yes. But this story, IU football, and to be in this position, one win away from winning a national championship and had to go through the gauntlet because it's a little bit more difficult now because now you have 12 teams, you have to win multiple games in order to get to a national championship.

Once you win, you know, you win your division, you go to your championship, instead division, you win that. And normally, up until a few years ago, you play for the national championship. You rank one or two, you play for the national championship. It's not like that anymore. Get a buy.

So you have to win three games to win a national championship. championship after you go through your regular season, after you get to your conference championship, now you got to win three games in order to be. So we'll know the real, it ain't no more, man, such and such should have been in there. And if they'd have been in there, they'd have done this. Now you win three games, you to chat. Oh, yeah, you got ample opportunity. You got ample time.

You get, oh, man, I'm sick of this time, camera. You got, you got ample opportunity to be able to prove yourself and your worth if you make it to the playoffs and you make it to the national championship. Hey, the fact that Mendoza gets to come back home and play in front of his home crowd in front of the place where he's from, you know? I mean, it's going to be dope. But listen, Mendoza going to have his handful and a hurricane going to have his hands full. I know the pressure's on Carson's Ben.

Oh, yeah. I know the pressure is on him and all those interceptions. And for one, the turnover. You can't turn the ball over. And they have to capitalize. If those opportunities themselves defensively, you got to catch some intercept in this game. You can't.

You won't have to. We saw what happened, Ocho. Mendoza put the ball on the ground twice, and they didn't get neither one of them. Neither one. And they ended up getting points out of both of them. I didn't understand, Oregon, okay, you're already backed up. You take a delay of game penalty to get backed up even further,

and now you let the guy come in, they only rush two guys, and you let one of the guy block the punt. I'm trying to figure out of you. I'm saying, hold on, you already backed up. Why would you take a delay a game? This game Basically once it was 7-7 That was the last time this game was interesting

I thought I'm going to be I thought it was going to go back and forth Especially after the interception And Oregon and I mean Oregon got the ball and they went right down the field Right down the field at will I'm like oh okay you know what This is going to be a long night

And it's going to be a scoring fest Excuse me back and forth Yeah I was was fooled. I was laid her straight. Oregon could get any pressure on Mendoza. Mm. Couldn't.

He was pinpoint accurate, Surratt, Becker, those guys, Cooper Jr. I mean, he was just spreading around. You get a, hey, you get a catch, you get a catch. Mm-hmm. Hell, they bought ponds in, let him catch a pass. It's, uh, hey, boy, these are the, uh, you know, these are the, um, both quarterbacks in this game, Mendoza is projected to be number one. Moore is projected to be number two.

Mm-hmm. I mean, I can see why. Yeah. I can see why. And obviously, I wasn't that high on Mendoza, obviously, because you watch Indiana play, but I didn't know he was this good. Now that the spotlight is on him, it's a pressure situation, and you have to show up when it matters most, and he played phenomenal.

He played phenomenal. So obviously, if he's going to the Raiders, based on some of the throws I saw him make the night, Well, you put some pieces around the quarterback I saw tonight at the next level. He's going to be all right. You better put some offensive linemen around. Yeah, that that's part of the pieces too. The most important, the most important at that.

You got to get him a receiver. Just one, just one to go with Brock Bowers. He's going to be all right. I agree. I agree with you. Yeah, this guy, I mean, we were hoping for what we got last night, a very interesting ball game. Excuse me.

I got the hiccough. It was interesting for a. about seven minutes. That's about it. Seven minutes. And that was it, Ocho. And it was a blowout from there. I mean, once it got to the half,

it was 35, seven it to half. Go ahead on 30. Yeah, hey, chat. I mean, it was 35, seven a half. At that point, I tweeted, you know, is it okay for me to take a nap? Or will Oregon have an opportunity to come back? And obviously, it's college football.

anything can happen, you know, momentum shifts, the pendulum shifts at some point, and another team catches fire. And, you know, at no point did Oregon threat or even have a chance to actually come back in this game? And, you know, it sucks. I thought it would have been similar to the situation of the game last night who was very exciting with hell. You didn't even want to blink.

You didn't want to leave your seat to even go to the bathroom because you might miss something. That's what I thought this game would be after the way it started out, even with the interception at the beginning of the game and seeing Oregon respond and go right down the field and score, it just didn't happen. It just didn't happen. Indiana looked very good. Most of these games, especially games of this magnitude when it comes to when teams are of equal value and quality and skill, you know, the games are winning in the trenches.

The games are one up front, and that's exactly where Indiana dominated on both sides of the ball up front. And so it's going to be a good one. It's going to be a good challenge for the hurricane. is going to be a good challenge for Indiana, you know, because I think the winner of this game is going to be whoever wins the Battle of the Trenches and also whichever quarterback makes the least amount of mistakes. And that's who wins the game.

I would love for the University of Miami to win, but I'm also cheering for, you know, Fernando Mendoza in Indiana because, you know, he is here. He's a hometown, Florida kid, so I'm excited. I'm excited for the game. Yeah, I mean, watching Mendoza probably, I've watched him a lot more down the stretch. Excuse me, as Indiana, you got closer and closer, and it looked like they were going to be on a collision course with Ohio State and the Big Ten championship.

You knew they were going to get into the playoffs whether they won the Big Ten championship or not because they had been ranked number two for such a long period of time. Excuse me, I'm sorry, Chad, I got the hiccups. But with that being said, watching him, I'm like, okay, yeah, I. but watching him against Ohio State when he really needed to make throws, watching him how just blitzed Alabama, how they just blitzed Oregon.

Yeah. The Keynes better be on their best behavior, Ocho. Yeah. This kid is on a Joe Burrow-type run. You remember what Joe Burrow did? I like the comparison. I like the comparison. Obviously that 2019, Joe Burrow was,

elite. Based on the numbers he put up that season, going to the Natty, winning the Natty, but the numbers he put up was unbelievable. So you understood when it's certain times you can look at a quarterback in college young and you can tell if what he does in college are going to be able to translate to the NFL.

And you knew watching Joe Burrow, no matter where he win, as bad as the Bengals might have been, he's going to have success wherever he goes. Well, you look at what he got and they got one of his receivers that he had in college. They got Chase to join it.

Yes. You look at Chase had like 20 touchdown. Jefferson had like 17 touchdown. They had Marshall. They had Thaddeus Moss. They had Clyde. It was hilarious. They had the best offensive line in football.

They had a defense with Queen and Stingley Jr. And all those guys. From a talent standpoint, I.U doesn't have that. Now, do I think IU is maybe have the coaching advantage? Yeah. Yeah. I like Ed Orgion. I like him, but Signet is upper level.

You can make a case that he and Kirby Smart, and he are the best two coaches in college football. Ryan Day is in that, but to do that, what he's done with that team, I mean, look, going to Ohio State and take it over that. Come on, you're going to get blue-chup guys. Going over to Georgia, take it over that, you're going to get guys.

Go take over Alabama or something. You go, bro, that's India. That's IU. Yeah. Is it safe to say Cochignetti's done, he's done more with... Every January, we're encouraged to start over. But what if this year is about slowing down and learning how to understand ourselves more deeply?

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Yeah, for sure. Mario Trista Bull and his Miami Hurricanes are headed to the National Championship thanks to a 31-27 victory over the Ole Miss Rebs. Ocho, I'm surprised how the game was this close. Yes. When you possessed the ball almost 42 minutes, the other team have it for less than 19 minutes. Yes.

You have the amount. You 13. of 21 on third and fourth down and you have to hold on for your life. The canes dropped so many interceptions, Ocho, four. Okay, okay, okay, okay. Because remember they dropped that one right before the half,

Ocho, they got a kick. And then they had one to do, he babbled it, then he bobbed it. Well, I think you're going to catch it. I'm going to let you catch it. Then he bop and hit the ground. And then to do, Bob and one, Ocho, this thing is pretty.

Yeah. Other DV pops it up in there. He right there. They pick it out. It went right through his hands, huh? Right through his hands, Ocho. But the Keynes are headed to the National Championship game, 31-27 over the Ole Miss Rebs,

a very, very good ball game. I can see why people like Carson Beck, and then you can see why he has his critics. Because Ocho, he was a-mailing some, that game shouldn't have been that close. He got Tony, he who split the scenes on cover two. Go ahead, I'm going to let you talk. Go ahead.

Tell me what you thought. What did you like about what you saw from the U? Listen, what I like from the U, obviously it was an offense, it was an offense defensively. I would have loved for him to add a little bit more pressure on Chamblez, but he was able to sit back there comfortably, and deliver.

I mean, Chamblez was what, 23 for 37. He had one TD for 277. I thought this game would have been won because of that goddamn front four. That front four, they weren't able to get home and disrupt Ole Miss the way I thought they would have. Obviously, Lacey got loose. Lacey got loose early in the, nothing was the first half. He got loose on the big one.

They kind of kept him in check after that. but this game was won by Carson Beck. Even though he will have his critics because of what he was able to do tonight and makes him the throws that he did make that were completed, he missed some that could have blew this game out the water. Wide open.

He blew his game completely out the water. He's going to look at film. They're going to go back. If they're playing a better team, honestly, if they're playing a better team offensively, they lose this game. Because you had to fight for your life, you know. And you shouldn't have.

Not when you possessed the ball like they possessed it on your time. They had the ball for over 41 minutes. Not that, not that much. And also some of them interceptions, some of those interceptions that they should have had, and you're hoping if they got the ball back, they're going to turn those into points.

Yeah. It was, uh, you look at the game early on, you know, he got Tony, Tony splits the seam. He throws it up the rail like he's going to throw him into the corner. No,

keep him front side. You see, Tony's looking for it like this and he throws him like that. He's like, bro, what are you doing? Yeah. I mean, he throws one. got the guy wide open in the flat. He elmails it on the, on the last drive. And then you look at some of the throws that he's missing. And you're like, bro, they're talking about you a top

quarterback. And then you watch him on the last drive on the throws that he completed. I mean, he's, I mean, Malachi Tony saved him on one. I don't, I still don't know how he caught the ball back here and still got a foot. I don't know how. You know, you know what? For some reason, they did, they, they, they call that play out. I'm not sure why because the toe touchdown. Because his heel is the ball of his hit first. You think so? It did. Did you think he like the ball of his foot hit and then his heel?

I thought to me when I was watching when I saw the replay, Unk, I thought it's toe touch first. And obviously the heel has to follow. Once the Tooth. Yes. Yes. Yeah, I agree. Yes. I thought it was a completed.

I thought it was a completed play. I thought it was. So I was tripping. I was tripping because the to toe toe touch. No, you weren't tripping. But listen, it was. wasn't complete, but Malachi Tony tonight, Unk, you know, down here in Miami, we call him Baby Jesus, Unk.

That's the nickname. And, boy, he was every, every bit of that tonight. He was special. He was a special player. He being able to do some of the things that he's done, the screen pass he took to the house, being a, unk, having the vision to be able to maneuver through traffic and get in the end zone, man, goddamn brother Fletcher, he told him that ball tonight, Unk. You got to tell him, Joe.

You can tell him, you can tell him, because he won't listen to me. Tell him, you can't jump cut when you got your. cleat spatted because there's too much there's no there's no traction underneath because when you slip on that wet grass your feet going out from under you your feet going out from under you yeah yeah yeah but it was an unbelievable game

look the Malacotony play was sensational Keelan I'm watching it in real time Marion Marion Marion Marion yeah also help me understand this talk to me the DBE has Marion man he's got it

man he's trying to feel for him, but he's trying to look at Carson back. Marion turns wheels and goes up and then he's like, start chasing him. Bro, you got him, man. You cannot clue that far down the field. No, you can't. I'm looking at somebody's got him. Like, bro, I know damn well, your DB coach ain't teaching that technique. No, absolutely.

You're 30 yards down the field and you look it in the back field when you got this man, man. Yeah, I think I know you're talking about the DB from Ole Miss. I think it's last. Yes. Yes. When Marion rolled, he turns it up. Yeah. He catches it.

He has him man because he starts on like an end route. Yeah. But he's feeling for it. And then he turns it up. He's looking in the back field. Like, what can you do for, I just want to know if the quarterback got the ball and you 20 yards down the field, tell me how, how do you impact the quarterback? You can't sack him. No, nothing, nothing at all.

But obviously wanting to see and get a hint on it when the ball is coming out. Is that number 32? Was that Grave Jr. on that play? I forget who it was. It might have been, no, Joe. Or was it six? I'm not sure what it was.

But obviously, one of the players that stuck out to me on the Ole Miss defense, even though they lost the game at DB was that young bull. He was he was going to be a hell of a player. You hear me? Hey, he's going to be a hell of a player. No, you're right. It might have been Grave Jr. It was.

Yeah, yeah. Who was it? Who was it that got beat on that broken play where? Beck rolls out of pocket. I like T.J. Daughery too. Number six. Oh, yeah, he's nice. Number six.

I don't know if he, uh, what they call a rover or he, a Mike or a Will or a stuff. I don't know what he is. Yeah. All I know, he can play. Yeah. He can play, Ocho. They got a good defense. Grave Jr.

stuck out to me on film to the point where I had the tweet. Well, God damn, is he running the routes? I mean, does he go? The guy, he's running the rouse with most of the dbs in the game. And obviously, he had, he had a PI. but he made some really, really great plays and man to man out there. So, I mean, that's some credit to him,

even though they did lose the game. That's one of the better fourth quarters in college football, I've seen in a very long time. It is. In a very, very long time. Overall, it was, look, the stakes are really, really high. Yes, sir.

Everybody, somebody knows their seasons end and it's ending one game before the ultimate goal, which is getting to the national championship and winning. So that's what hurts the most, because you're one step away. And somebody knows that dream is ending tonight. Yes.

And so maybe you're a little tentative. Maybe, hey, look, okay, hey, let's feel I way into it. I thought Miami was doing good, going down the field, end up having to sell. I don't know what to guard. Right, guard. How many times are you going to fall start? They told you in the huddle. They're in the huddle.

Hey, don't move. Ready, break. Bro, he, bro, where you going? And then the next play, the ball gets tilt and it's intercepted. Yeah. It's the like I said, Ocho, C, that's why I couldn't do it. You know, you not understand. Let me ask you question.

Did you know the snap count? Did he not tell you? Because everybody else knew it. Yeah. Boy, this was game. Hey, great game. Ocho, I'm looking at O'Mess. I don't know how old Miss made it this close.

Because they don't, look at this. I'm going to see something, Ocho. Because I think they have like, I think. Like the U had like 90 plays. Yeah. To like 40 something. Maybe 50. Oh, shit.

51 rush attempts to 21 rush attempts. So 37 and 51, that's 88, 60. 28 more plays. 42. The U had the ball 41 minutes and 22 seconds. O'N. 18 minutes and 38 seconds. And for

the game to be as close as it was when you dominate time of possession, you're crazy efficient on third and fourth down. And for you to basically, you know, need a hell Mary to fall incomplete, you let a team hang around.

Now, you got away with this one. But I'm not so sure the next team that you play, if you let them hang around as long as this, I wouldn't tell. if I was them. It might hurt you. And obviously, when they do play in a national championship game,

obviously it's going to be a home game for the hurricane because it's being played here at the Hard Rock Stadium in Miami. I'm hoping the defense. I'm hoping the defense shows up a little better, more so that front. As opposed to the back end for the Miami Hurricanes, I need Bain and them young boys, them young boys on the front. I need them to impact the game a little bit more, make their presence felt a little bit more,

make whoever they play, whether it be Mendoza or whether it be the quarterback. back from Oregon. More. Whoever they play, make him uncomfortable. Because both of them, if you allow them to sit back and throw the way Chandlerz was able to throw tonight, they're surgical with that ball, man. They are surgical with that ball.

The problem that I think Miami is that the guy had great mobility. Yes. And when you have a guy great mobility, you're really, you're really cautious. I just don't want to let him jump out the window on me because he kind of hurt Georgia with his legs on some place. and he's hurt teams with his legs, and he has that ability. So they felt that they matched up really well with their secondary,

and they felt they could get enough pressure with four. Now, they brought some pressure early on, and they got to him and caused him to get an intentional grounding. But I thought it seemed like to me the game plan was, it's like less containing. Less containing. I like the last play, Ocho,

because the right-handed quarterback, normally they're rolling right. What did they do? They dashed him left. Yep. So now they got three. guys on that one side. Now we got one guy.

So we got plenty enough time to get him out there, let the guys get down the field so they can throw it. But I thought Miami did a great, look, penalties hurt Miami, kill some drives. They dropped some interception. They ended up leading the points for Ole Miss. But those opportunities, when you get those opportunities like that, and I was like, man, you guys got the momentum, man.

You need to put this team away. You need to get some separation. Right now, there's not enough separation between you and Ole Miss. and you're like, they're dominating this game. Yeah. I'm like, dominating it. And you look up and like,

hold on, wait a minute, they're still in this game. Yeah. As a matter of fact, they took the lead and then took the, and then Miami got it back

and then they go back and get it again and then Miami has to take it again. I'm like, how do you guys have the lead when you only have, you have, you know, basically a quarter or a half

worth of fewer plays? But this was unbelievable game, Ocho. This was crazy. This is what you hope. This is what you hope. This is what you want. I guess the money going to be coming in, pile it into the U.S. and some of them alumni, hey, this is what we expect now, Ocho.

Absolutely. And another thing, this is good, not only NIL, but with players that are hitting the portal, guess what they're going to want to come? Right. Guess what it? Do you know, players are going to want to come? coming to Miami because you see what the program is done. You see what Chris Ball is done with the program. And I think this is the resurgence to the hurricanes of old. I'm not saying they're the

same 2000 hurricanes that are hurricanes from the 90s. Well, mainly the 80s. 80s. 80s. This is a great step in the right direction for that program in general. And they got they got some really good players on that goddamn Malikai Tony, Unk. Malikai Tony is supposed to be a senior in high school, man. He's supposed to be a senior high school, man. Just watching what he's done and being a very, very good friend of all his, his pops, who was from Liberty City to, you might, I don't know if you remember, Antonio, Antonio Brown. Not Antonio Brown that played for the Cowboys and not our Antonio Brown, but Antonio De La

Brown, he played for Buffalo Bills. He was short. He ran four, too. He played a little bit with a command. I almost said red, but the commanders, but, hey, on, he was fast, boy, he was fast. So seeing his son out there, man, shining and having fun, man. Salute the De La Man and Malachi. I'm a whole, hey, you want to come to the game?

No, I don't. I can get tickets to the hard rock for us to get in the game. Oh, Joe, I'm going to be traveling. We got to go to New York next week and then I got to go back to L.A. for three days next week to take two episodes of Club Shashit, man. And plus, I still got to travel for the Super Bowl. Not, bro. Well, hold on. Hold on.

Hold on. They know me and Jordan at their point. Like, oh, y'all, y'all again. Huh? Yeah. Hey, but listen, listen, I'm telling you I can get us free tickets. I can get us free tickets in the game so we can go watch the game and we could do it again. I wish I could like make myself magically appear and not have to get them up to the bank.

Do you know how far Miami is from Vegas? Yeah, I know. Well, you already got to be on the West Coast anyway. You got to be on the East Coast anyway. So you might will come on down this way early. No. You just said you got to, you got to be a new goal. Okay.

Then you already, you could already be on this end. No. Miami to New York is the two-hour flight. I know. Ocho, I need some rest, Ocho. Do you know how much we, Ocho, think about it. We got tonight, tomorrow, Saturday, Sunday, Monday, Tuesday. I travel Wednesday, Thursday, Friday, Saturday, Sunday.

And guess what? I leave Monday. I take Tuesday, Wednesday, and come back Thursday. Well, let me tell you something. You heard that schedule you just ran off, right? Yes. You do understand. I'm doing the same traveling you doing, right?

Yes. Hey, I'm getting on the same flight, doing the same traveling. Well, you want to come, dude, you want to, hey, you want to be my guest, my guest, my guest host on Club Shachay. You want to host the episode? Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Who we got? Who we got? Oh, you can't tell me who we got, huh?

Tell me who we got so I can do my homework so I know what to ask. I'm about to let you take an episode this summer and see how you do. Okay. Oh, so just me? Yeah. You and the gas. Okay. Oh,

ooh-hoo-hoo. Hey, can I ask you a question? Can I ask you a question? Now, now, does, does that come with pay? Is that extra pays to host? I mean, I need to see, I need to see if you could do it. Maybe you might want to do one. Maybe you might want to start your own.

Yeah, hey, hold on, hold on. I got some. You see how much homework, how much prep come with you. Right, right, right. Hey, I think I'm ready for that on because, you know, I can flip the switch from the person that everybody sees on night cab been completely different than the person that would be on club Shaysay. I get very professional. I flip the switch. I'm going to put on a nice polo and a jacket. Yeah. But, Ocho, you know, in an interview, everything can't be ad lib. Yeah, there can be some

moments in there. But you got to follow script. Oh, I'm going to let it flow, huh? And you know, I'm not really good scripted, unless it's a TV show. I'm not really good scripted. So I'm really good off the cup off the top of the head. It's got to be a sequence. You just can't be all over the place. Oh, I know. One band, one sound. I got it, baby. I'm ready. But this was unbelievable, look, the Keynes won their first national championship in Miami.

Yeah. There's a chance. I remember when they won the first one, when they beat Oklahoma. Oklahoma, yeah. Oklahoma was a while ago. And won the national championship, but they went for two. And the ball got batted down. This was an 84, 83 season.

84. That was Bernie Kosar. Bernie Kosar was a freshman. That's when they had Oklahoma, Nebraska had Turner Gill, Mike Rozier. Mike Rozier had won the Heisman trophy that year, went over 2,000 yards. I think Dean Stein Kula was on that team. They had, they were loaded. They were loaded. But do you, do you sprung that upset? Coach Nellenberger, they came out of nowhere. And from that point on, they had, you know, had high smelt, Mel Bratton. Melvin. That was the,

that was the, that was the, that was the, that was the, uh, the beginning of the you, as we know it. You know, coach Nellenberger,

and then he leaves, he goes to, I think the USFL or maybe, uh, another school, and then in come Jimmy. And then in come Erickson. Yeah.

Hey, they were balling boy under, hey, that them team Jimmy had and coach. Oh, yeah, Jimmy. Jimmy, well, look. Not only could Jimmy build a team. Yes. He knew exactly what to say to the player. Because, you know, I know you guys have seen the interview with Mike where he said,

I said, Mike, man, why you won't want 41? He said, man, that was Jimmy. I didn't want to go 47. So I went to him, I said, Jimmy, let me get another number, man, 47 that didn't need. He said, I'm going to give you some touchdowns. I'm going to give you some yards. He said, Mike, you know what I see when I see you in that 47? I see a big old 747 about to land in the end zone

and score a touchdown. Mike say, yeah? That's what you see? You know, I'm like, that's what you see? Yeah. He said, man, I get the dollars about two or three years in and we're having a drink. He said, Mike, I can't believe you brought that story.

Mike said, what story, Jimmy? He said, that 747 story. Jimmy knew how to sell. Jimmy knew how to motivate. Jimmy was the perfect carrot and the stick. He knew that. And, man, he had some playboy. They ate.

They got Jay Buggy. They got Danny Stubbs and they had Testa Bird. I still don't know how they lost that game to Penn State. I still don't know. They lost 14th team. I don't know. With that level of talent that they had on the field that night, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

They were supposed to lose that game. Hey, Jimmy, Jimmy had some players too. and when Dennis Erickson was there. Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah. And he had some players too, boy. But I still, look, Ole Miss, you ain't got nothing to hold your head down for a girl. No, no, absolutely not.

This was, uh, uh, boy, I think Lane would have probably been sick had they won this game. Because remember, Ocho, he's leaving Ole Miss to go build a championship team, and lo and behold, he built one already. Yeah, yeah. He built one. what. And the thing is

is that he could have stayed there and done this and had no problems. He must win a national championship at LSU. And we also have to understand why he left. We have to understand, you know, because, you know, money talks, huh? Yes. Money talks.

But it's being reported that Ole Miss was willing to match. You know, hey, you know FedEx. Now, he passed away, but you know, I'm sure he left a pretty nice endowment Yes, sir. I can tell you one thing.

I think if Ole Miss was willing to match when the rumblings of him actually leaving LSU would have came about, they would have matched it in. What's the point of waiting? Ocho, if you really want to stay, you, you know, you don't even entertain that. Yeah, yeah. It's like in a relationship, Ocho.

If you really want to stay with old girl, are you really out there entertaining others? No, not really. If you really. Hey, we don't even talk about that. Don't even worry about that. Don't even worry about that. Don't even worry about it.

I'm with you right now. I'm with you right now. Hey, hold on, hold on, hold on. Before you keep going, let me put my camera back on, back on my, because I'm on my laptop and I don't like it being not clear. Hold on. I need the people to see my face. Ah, there we go.

Hey, see how clear that boy in there? Yeah, yeah. Yeah, yeah. Yeah. That's real nice. Yeah. Oh, let me ask you a question. Yeah.

Was that past interference on the last play? Oh, the very last play in the end zone in the corner? Yeah. That's a touchy one, that's a touching one. Honestly, that's a touchy one because he's feeling for him and he has him the whole time. He pulled him down. But he pulled him down a little bit. It's a call that can be called.

The ref one to be an asshole. He could do it. He could do it. Obviously, it's not a spot file. It'll be 15 yards. And I think even with the 15 yards, I still don't think they get a touchdown because they needed a touchdown to win.

But he could have called it if he wanted to. Ocho, I think that was more of a pass interference than the one in Ohio State. Remember, they called the one of Ohio State. Oh, in the corner. Yes. Yes. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

That was tough. If I'm not mistaken, I think that a, that gentleman, the DB, I think he imprisoned, Ocho. Chris Gamble? Sharp. Sharp. Sharp. He is? I think so.

Dang. I think he called him a 187. That's tough. A new year doesn't ask us to become someone new. It invites us back home to ourselves. I'm Mike Delarocha, a host of Sacred Lessons, a space for men to pause, reflect, and heal. This year, we're talking honestly about mental health,

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