Nightcap - Best of March Madness Part 1: DOUBT AJ Dybantsa No. 1 HYPE after Texas UPSETS BYU, Hubert Davis needs to be FIRED ASAP after upset to VCU

Episode Date: March 24, 2026

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carolina tar heels by the score of 8278 in overtime the rams pulled off the sixth biggest comeback in tournament history the second largest second half comeback behind nevada 20 22 point rally against Cincinnati in 2018. For the third time in the last four seasons, the Tar Heels have failed to reach the round of 32 under Hubert Davis. Hubert Davis, biggest blown lead. He had a 15-point lead his first year at Carolina, Joe and Ocho, in the National Championship game.

He coughed that up. In 2023, he missed it. In 2024, number one seed he lost in the suite 16. 2025, first round loss. 2026, first round loss. the first round lost this year after having a 19 point lead. I hate saying this, Joe.

I really do. But after watching what Hubert Davis, I mean, they went out early in the ACC tournament, loved Clemson. They lose in the first round of having after having a 19 point lead and it's a continuation and watch him sit on the sideline

and make no adjustment. Because if you watch Hill Jr., he gets it going. They don't trap him. They don't blitz it. They don't do anything to get the ball out of his hand. and they let him continuously play one-on-one. That's on the coach.

How did VCU get back into this game and ultimately win this game in overtime? I think, you know, when they got down, you know, I mean, you can look at it like the last game. You want to, you know, you want to scratch and cloud just stay in the game or get back in the game. Okay, Ocho. He said, Jr., got it going.

And honestly, this really don't surprise me, okay, Ocho, because North Carolina's best player, Caleb Wilson, he's done for the season. Be a top five pick in this NBA's drive. You know what I mean? Yeah, I would give you that. I would give you that, Joe. From Atlanta, Georgia.

Which one? Caleb Wilson. He implanted. Okay, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Yeah, so he broke his. He broke, yeah, he had a hand injury, then he ended up tearing a thumb ligament, right? Yeah.

For this. So that's why I'm saying. That's 20 and 10. You can't make that up. Yeah. You know what I would concede that to you. I would concede that to you. But guess what?

They had a 19 point lead without their 6-11 great player that's going to be a lottery pick. So they build a lead without it. You can't say well if they'd have had him because they had a 19-point lead in the second half without him. Go ahead. They clearly couldn't sustain it.

They clearly stay in there. I'm telling like BCU, hey, they crawl back in their game, bro. It was impressive to watch. But yeah, I mean, North Carolina got great contribution from guys to win the game, obviously. They're a little team. But without Caleb, man, I just kind of, I ain't even lied to you, I ain't really been paying attention to the Charhills because I know they ain't going to go far. Yeah.

For me, Joe, is that you see a guy heating up. That's rule number one. Get the ball out of his hands. Why would you continuously let him play one-on-one? When he's beating you, he's beating you off the dribble, he's getting to his spots, he's hitting the threes, and you still do absolutely nothing to get the ball out of his hands. I can see if we get trapped him, Joe and No-cho,

and other guys start to heat up, then we're going to have to make adjustments accordingly, and maybe we're going to have to play the thing straight up. But to make no adjustment, Huber Davis made no adjustment, He continues to let Hill Jr. play one-on-one, and it got him beat. He had 11 in the first half. So he's like, damn, because he kept a minute in the first half.

And then when they got down, he got, now he got 16. Now he got big. I was like, bro. And when he got one-on-one with that big and hit that step back, I said, that's good. I said, it's over. Hey, once you give a team confidence, give them some life, okay, Ocho. It's a rap. It's a rap.

It's hard to turn a team down. Once they get rolling, once they get steam rolling, that's what happened with VCU. They confidence was through the roof. Go ahead, Ocho. Now, I'm going to say the Tar Hill game, I couldn't get it out here where I was in New York. BYU, Texas, Kennesaw State, and Gonzaga were the two games I was able to watch. Okay. Yeah.

I wasn't able to see that one based on where I was, based on my location out here. But if you look, I mean, a 19-point lead. Yeah. Joe, Ocho is a sixth seed. Yeah. But like I said, and I don't advocate, but I just think, I just, there's no question in my mind,

they can get somebody better than Hubert Davis at UNC. That's still a premium program. That's a blue blood. Oh, yeah. That's like somebody going to Oklahoma. That's like somebody going to Ohio State. That's like Alabama. That's Michigan.

That's USC. That is a premium program. Yeah. And for them to be floundering around. losing in the sweet 16, not even getting to the sweet 16, not even making out of a round of 32. That's unacceptable for that. For that program, for that institution, that is unacceptable.

Oh, yeah, because they're too prestige. They're not going to let that continue to go on. Hey, Joe and Uncle, listen, as prestigious as they are, the history that North Carolina has, and you're saying him not making adjustments necessary in game, what if he doesn't have the players to make those adjustments, even though you're up 19? What if you understand that if I make adjustments,

it's going to put my players in certain spots with them being exposed based on who we're playing? You got up 19. Yeah. You got up 19. Hold on. So how did you do that? Hold on.

Stay with me real quick, huh? Yes, I'm here. Hold on. You got up 19 early in the game, right, Joe? No, it was in the second half. Okay, in the second half. So when the other team, the opposing team makes certain adjustments that you need to based on what you're doing,

so you can go up 19 and they find a way to call their way back into the game. Yes. Then what do you do? You make, you get the ball out of the hot guy's hand. It's just like a receiver. If you going off, what did they do? They double you. We're going to make, we're going to make you throw the ball to Chris Henry, rest his soul. We're going to make you throw the ball to DJ Hushmanzada. We're going to make you check it down. But I've been damn if we're going to let Ocho play one-on-one out here. He's already got a buck 50 and we're not trying to let him get 250. That's what you do. It's simple. Right. The hot man, basketball, Joe, you see this

all the Joe, you know this better than anybody because you played the game at an elite level. A hot guy, they're coming with the trap. Yeah. They come in. They got to get the ball out of your hand. Yeah. Yeah, I agree with you. When you get a guy who get it going like that,

you got to try to turn his water off. You got to send two throwing them off rhythm, you know, make him give it up a few possessions, then let them get up. But, yeah, I agree with you. They didn't make no adjustments. And this is what you get. You know, when we are out there competing,

bro, it's hard for cats to really be like, hey, man, come on switch. Let me get him for a minute. You know what I mean? He turned you up. Hell no, I don't want to hit it. And that prime kick, he just scored a few, oh, he's like, there, then I got him, I got it, my got it.

Yeah. What? And we saw this tonight with Luca. They let Luca play one-on-one. I don't know what Spoh was thinking. You just saw your guy score 83 less than a week ago. Yeah. So you mean to tell me you're gonna let Luca play one-on-one?

All he was doing is calling for the high pick, okay? He go, hey, he get a, what's the one they got? They just got from the Clippers. They traded from the Clippers. I forget it, Norman Powell. Yeah. Whoa, wop, wot, wop, wop. I mean, step back after step back after step back.

Hey, Joe. When he's going to make it that, when he's making that, bro, I'm talking about as deep as he shoot, he can shoot it with a hand in his face. Man, 60 points, bro. 60. Look what a game at, fellas.

Look at the scoring. That's why, you know, this is what people want to see. They want to see these dudes put up these type. almost, man. 60. But I just, it's going to be considering, oh, Joe and Joe. Yeah. Considering who North Carolina is, it's going to be hard for Hubert Davis to go in there and convince the alumni, the booster and the president that he should remain in this role given, bro, look at these. Come on, man. That's, that's Carolina. That's Carolina. That's Coach Smith.

That's Roy. Best play out. You had a 19. Ocho. That's like you played. You got a 24 point lead. You got a 24 point lead. And then how do you go to the media and say,

well, we couldn't, well, you know we was missing Carson. Well, you didn't have Carson when you built the 24 point lead. So what did you do? So what, so what happened? Yeah. So you can't, if you, if you lose this game, if you're, if it's mipping tumped, I can give you that. If you get blown out, I can give you.

We don't have a. our best player, but you didn't have your best player and you built a 19 point lead. Yeah. So now you can't use we didn't have our best player argument. Right. The reason why you lost the game. You lost the game because when one team made the adjustments to cool you off, you didn't make the adjustments to get cool their best player off.

Yeah. Yeah. There has to be like, okay, a chance. When you play a chance, okay, you got moves, but you got okay. If you see where he's going, you got. got the counter moves. You got the counter. You just can't keep going to the same course of action.

And that's what Hubert Davis did. He didn't make any adjustments. He rarely make any adjustments. Yeah, I wonder what his recruiting class looks like. I think that'll probably determine a lot too. You know what I'm saying? Do is he, does he have any top guys who've committed to North Carolina?

More time than not. The one and done's, they go into Duke, first and foremost. Now you see Cal, you see Cal getting a bunch of them now at Arkansas, where it was basically Duke and Kentucky for all the one and done. Yeah. They were getting all the one and done. So if they were 12 one and done, those two teams had 10 of them. Yeah.

Kansas might have got one and then somebody else got arbitrarily had them. Yeah, yeah. You know what he need though, huh? What was that? Instead of finding him, Joe, he need to go to the boosters, go to whoever's in positions of power. I need a little bit more money to get the players we need to to be able to compete in these tournaments.

But here's the thing, Ocho and Joe. Do you believe he can get you ready for the NFL? Because when they go to Ohio State, what is the track record show? Those receivers go to the NFL. Those D-Ly linemen go to the NFL. Those offensive linemen go to the NFL. Those linebackers go to the NFL. When you go to Bamma,

So you're going to some arbitrary school. Can he get me ready to go play in the NFL? Can they get me ready to go play in the NBA? Because that's all my, I'm stopping off. I'm going to class the first semester after Christmas. I ain't going back to class no more. Hey, hey, you know what, too? We know it's funny too, Uncle.

I think about it too. You look at some of these players that go to the Alabama's, especially when they come to football, when they go to the Alabama, they go to the Ohio states, they already prepped the NFL ready. It's just going to the right institution. Yes.

tune all the other things and attributes that you need to be able to get to that next level. North Carolina is that type of program. All it is is about how do I track the players that can be NBA ready or that can be prepped for the NBA? How do I get them to come here? If we understand how college is now with the NIL money, hell, what's the one way to get them? You got to pay them.

You got to pay to play. You've got the most of the teams that are winning now, whether it's college, I mean, whether it's football or basketball, it money talks. This is the business now. This ain't like college in the old days. We're not going to North Carolina just because Michael Jordan went there. Yeah. Just because some of the other prestige players that played the NBA went there.

No, we're trying to get to that bag. Hey, listen. Go ahead. I think even when you look at Coach Cowell situation, Uncle Ocho, at the University of Arkansas, you know, he catered to the players. He lets you know, man. I'm only playing, I'm only playing seven guys. I'm only playing seven guys

okay Ocho he's telling that yeah that's what he telling him yeah he's telling him I'm only playing seven guys this is how I was gonna go so you got you know you got a real understanding and you respect a coach man who can be straightforward with you like that

you know what I mean and he's like the portal he's like the segue to the NBA for guards bro he got he got I mean he's gonna have two guards go to the league this year yeah yeah I think the thing is Ocho

is that if you look at Carolina's history, they haven't had a whole lot. They haven't, basically since Roy left, they haven't had that cavalcade of guys going to the NBA. They've been Duke because you see the Brandon Ingrams, you see the Jason Tatum, you see the Zion Williams. You see the Cooper flag, the Connepples. You see the Jalen Johnson.

You see boom, boom, boom. Well, that's where I'm going. You saw this with Alabama. You see this with Ohio State. That's where I'm going. We understand what used to be. Mm-hmm. Oklahoma doesn't get the same level of player that they once did.

Yeah. USC doesn't get the same level of player they once did. So in my process, I'm thinking, okay, Joe, if, oh, Joe, I can get a million dollars to go here or let's just say 500,000. I get 500,000 to go here. I get 500,000 to go to Duke. Or I can get 600,000 to go to North Carolina. Where am I going? Duke.

Exactly. Yeah. So unless the money is just astronomical. Yeah. Now you're talking about, okay, 500,000 versus a million. That's something that put $100,000. And I know what Duke's track record is. Zion Young Williamson, number one overall draft pick.

Brandon Ingram, number two pick. Jason Tatum, number three pick. Cooper flag, number one overall. Conkin up top top six, top five, top six. I see Jalen Johnson. I see all these guys year after year after year after year after year. I see R.J. Barrett. I see Cam Reddish. No, bro, I'm good.

I'm just being 100. Hey, Joe, look what you just said, right? So what you understand in that, right? You still want to give coach a little grace and understanding that I'm not getting the players I need to be able to compete because are everybody going to other places because the money is better? He can't attract them. See, he can't.

to track them that's a problem in and of itself too yes so i don't care what type of club you got to be relatable to these i mean if you if you want the high rollers to come what you got to have ocho they got to have that money for you got to have you got to have you got to have them dumb dumb dumb when you go to the club when you go to the club they got by 30 of the fans standing right out there right for and they're usher them right on here yes up because those got yeah yeah when the guys see those they go in there with a bottle service that's how it works So you have to have something to attract them. You're not catching a lion or a tiger with an empty trap.

You better throw a carcass in there, a zebra, a eel or something. Something. You got to attract him with something. And I'm not so sure, North Carolina is just the tar hill and the jumpman brand. I'm not so sure that's enough anymore, guys. Hey, they got to call Joe, they got to call Mike. Mike, we need to open up the water a little bit more. Nah, it's the playing field too even now.

You know, it ain't really no advantages no more to go to North Carolina. Nope. You know what I mean? Like, you know, if you're good, if you're good, they're going to find you, partner. Yeah. Nowadays, it's too many, it's too, too much going on. It's too many ways to be visible. And the way the streaming thing is going, they stream everything.

So they ain't going to miss you. You remember Alabama? Remember how Alabama had that thing on the chokehole, little choke? All the live stars for about 10, 15 years. The receivers and running backs. Yeah. Back to back. Back to back.

Matter of fact, the funny part to me is I'm confused. Why do players, especially if you look at the production that came out of Alabama, they had no problem sitting behind each other waiting they turn. They could have been anywhere. They was going to find you. regardless. Yeah. When you got Mark Endrum, you got Derek Henry,

you got Alvin Kamarra, you got a Drake, Kenyon Drake, T.J. Yeldon. Yeah. And you're just pumping them out, boom. Yeah. You got to go. Because if you don't go to the NFL, you might be on the bench.

That ain't gonna look good. No. That is not gonna look good. Hey, your freshman year, you run for 900 yards. Your sophomore year, you are backup. Yeah, yeah. So you got to go. Yeah.

Those wide receivers, you get Julio and you get Ridley and you get Amari Cooper because here come Jerry Judy here come Jalen Wattle here come a here come Henry Ruggs and the Vante Smith. Mm-hmm you got J-mo they come in you got to leave yeah it ain't it's it complicated yeah you got to leave same thing with the DBs look at those DBs they pumping them out certain Arnold Minka yeah it has some good ones, boy. McKinney.

It's a new day. I'm done with North Carolina. I'm gonna find me a new team. Oh, that was your squad? Yeah. Hey, hold, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, hold on, hold on, hold on. Oh, wait, where you from? Well, I'm from Georgia.

Okay, how has North Carolina your squad if you're from Georgia? Are you just, I don't know. You got to realize, Ocho, this go, this go way back. I first came acquainted with North Carolina. North Carolina came on my radar in 1981. They lost the national championship game to Indiana and Isaiah.

That was the same night that President, the assassination attempt on Ronald Reagan's life. Okay, they lost Isaiah, Randy Whitman, Rolando Turner. Yeah. They had James Worthy. They had Jimmy Black. They lost. The next year, guess who comes in the next year?

Guy with his tongue hanging out of his body. Join. Yes. And guess who they play for the national championship? Georgetown and Patrick. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. So we go back 40 plus, I go back 40 plus years with them. Hold on, I got another question.

Okay, I'm glad you said that. So you became a North Carolina fan. Yeah. Once when they lost to Isaiah at him, then Jordan came in the following year because Jordan was there. Okay, now I'm a fan of North Carolina. Yes. So that means you're a fan of Jordan.

Yeah, I like Jordan, yes. Okay, okay. So who's the greatest NBA player of all time? LeBron. Two things can be true. I can like Jordan, but LeBron is a better player. It's subjective. Yeah.

Yeah. Yeah. When, uh, uh, Kenny Smith and they had Sam Perkins, they had Matt Dardy. What's Kenny Smith? Jay Warrick. Yeah, the jet. He went to North Carolina. He was on the team with not on that national championship team.

Right. He was on the team with, uh, the year, uh, two years after, two year after. Okay. Yeah. Now, they had a squad now. They had a squad. Yes. Yeah.

Oh, when they had Rashid Wallace and Stackhouse and J.R. Reed. Yeah. Oh, that was used to be loaded. Hey, hey, when they had Vince Carter and Antoine Jameson over there, too now. Yes, yes. Well, you know, Coach Smith, coach Dem, and then he turned them over to Coach Gruther. Yeah, yeah. Remember because he didn't want to lead the coverage bear.

Yeah. Hey, them boy was a show. Yeah. You're an MJ fan. I've been an MJ fan. Yeah, I'm, I'm not. I was curious. I thought I had you.

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or wherever you get your podcasts. Number one overall seed, Duke survived number 16 Sienna by rallying. They were down 13 at the half, but they come back to win by 6, 7165. The top seed of Blue Devils needed a late rally to overcome a double-digit deficit. Duke became the first number one seat to trail by double digits, 11, to a 16-seat at the half. Duke is the eighth number one seeded NCAA tournament history to win by six or fuel points against the 16 seed. The three of the seven, three of the previous seven lost their next game, the only one to win on to reach the final four. Georgetown one by one, lost in the elite eight and 89.

Was that the Princeton game? I think that might have been the Princeton game. Oklahoma 89. One by one, lost in sweet 16. Purdue, Michigan State. Michigan, Duke in 26, Gamsaga, and Illinois. Oh, Illinois, that's when they had, what you call them.

That was, that was Kendall Gill and Nick Anderson, Neil. Who was this? Illinois in 1989. I think Kendall Gill and Nick at night was on that team. Yeah. Kinder Gill played for the Supersonics, huh? Uh-huh. Kendall Gill played for the Supersonics?

I think, I think so. I remember if he did. I remember him playing for it. If I'm not mistaken, I think that was the 89 team. Wasn't that Lou Henson? Yeah, Marcus Liberty. Yeah. Mr. Basketball.

Yeah. Hey, Duke got lucky. Duke got lucky today, huh? Hey, hey, Joe. Hey, Joe and Uncle, if Duke was playing anyone else outside of Sienna, they could have lost that game. They could have lost to Sienna. See, this, I mean, they could have.

But they've got damn booze boys as hell to deal with it. Yeah, yeah, yeah. They got down, Evan Evans, Evans was ball in, too. Yeah, yeah. But a better team, Joe, a better team outside of Sienna, they win this game, especially being up double points. Well, the thing is, the thing is Duke, they starting point guard went down. I forgot his name, but he didn't, he ain't been playing.

I think he out, out. And when you got two freshmen in your lineup, obviously they brothers, they twin brothers. They both played well tonight, Uncle Ocho, the boozele boys. both played well to get them boys over the hump. But if it wasn't for that, because it was looking shaky. I seen them down 10. I said, hold up.

Yeah. They watched them on the glass, though. They were plus 12 on the glass. Karen Boozer, you know, he had 22, but he hadn't been shooting the ball. He got at most of his points at the free throw line. But he's a load on the glass. Oh, yeah, we're going to load.

You got to keep him off the glass now. Yeah, you got to keep him off the glass. You got to make him work, too. You can't just let him walk down there and just stand right there on the box. Like I say, you got to start bumping and grinding from the three-point line. So as he crossed half-court, Ocho. I'm hitting him with their shoulder.

I'm catching him right there at the Frito line all the way down to the block. I got to weigh you down. Yeah. You can't let him walk you down, though, Joe. No, you can't. You can't. Hey, I'm going to tell you out, some, any of these guys who can put the ball in the basket, these scores, especially in college, because when I'm watching,

I'm looking how they're playing defense. Obviously, when you get into, you know, the NBA, defense is a lot different, man. Guys really know how. how to play, they know how to bump grind, the little nuances of the game, they can get away with. But I don't know how far Duke can go, man. They didn't really impress me today.

I ain't got them going to the Final Four. I know that. I think I got them winning maybe one more game. Yeah. That's it? That's it. It's just hard playing on that neutral site, bro. Like, you ain't really no advantage, Ojo.

Yeah. That's what I mean. Hey, Duke travel well now. Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah. Yeah. It'll feel like a home game, even though you're not playing, you know, at home. Yeah.

Yeah. Oh, yeah. Look, all these, you know, your Dukes and your Carolinas, teams like that, that are basketball power, they're going to travel. Just like Ohio State and Alabama, your football powers, they're going to travel. Georgia, they're going to travel.

They're going to travel. This is, hey. And they're number one. They're going for a long, long time. Yeah. And they rank number one. So they are. Number one overall seats.

So yeah, you know they're gonna travel. And you know, Coach K, I mean, Duke is synonymous with Coach K. He was there for such a long time. I remember the first time they first, when he played for the National Championship in 86 and they lost the Purvis Nelson when they had Tommy American and Johnny Dawkins, Jay Billis. Yeah, yeah.

And they lost the Purvis them in 86, Louisville. But, and he just been getting, he just been getting players there. Yeah. A Grand Hill, Thomas Hill, Christian Lake, the Cherokee Park, Trajan Labby, just on and on and on and on and on. Go ahead, don't you want to say something? Yeah, no, no, no, I'm listening. I'm listening.

But, but Duke, hey, what did they say? What's the thing? Survive in advance. That's what you got to do. And that's exactly what Duke did. Number 11, Texas. gets past AJ DeBanza and the BYU Cougars,

79-71. Agent DeBonsa played every minute of the game, but it wasn't enough as BYU has its season and probably his college career come to an end. DeBanzah, 35 points with two points side of time. BYU's tournament record for points in the game held by Danny Aange and Jimmer for debt. Matias, I don't even know I'd say his last night,

but he had 23 and 16. for the Texas Longhorns in 33 minutes. He was 10 or 17. Man, he could have had, he was 311 for the free throw line. Who was that? But AJ did AJ things. You know,

I'm not so sure I'm not taking him number one overall. I think there's too many for me for me now. Somebody else might feel differently. I think there's too many red flag for Peterson. So you're saying you're taking AJ one. I'm taking AJ DeBonza. Oh, okay. Yeah, yeah, yeah.

What's the red flag with Peterson, right? Well, him taking itself out the game not being available. Yep. I mean, hold on, but when you look at upside, though, as far as making it to the next level, who can come in, both? Both can come in and make a difference right now. So Bonza, though.

I mean, I can't teach six, seven, six eight. Six nine. That boy, six nine. I can't teach that, oh, Joe. Yeah, he played well. He played well tonight. Shoot, Texas did everything they could. Got there.

Every time he got the ball, they trapped him right away. Sometimes he had to get a ball up off of him. Hey, that was it. That was his last game, fella. We got out of that, Joe. We're going to catch him. We're going to catch him in July and the NBA Summer League out of Vegas.

We catch him in Summer League. Come on out here, we get you in the Summer League. That's the next time y'all going to see that boy playing. You hear me? Yeah. Who got the first pick, Joe? We don't know yet. We don't know yet, but I'm going to just be honest with you.

It's a lot of guys who can still improve the draft stop. Yeah. But for the number one, one pick, I'm almost willing to bet whoever whatever, whoever team get the number one pick, they pick an AJ first. I agree with you. I think that, listen, I think the people know, man. I know they do everything with a little, what you call it, the ping pong balls.

The pink ball balls? You think they cheat? Now, I'm not going to say they cheating, Joe, but they know, they know what I'm saying? You know how they do. Hey, well, listen, check this out. I'm going to be skeptical. If you target the number one pick, I'm going to be skeptical. because I'm like, hold on, they didn't kept AJ in Utah

for the past two, three years. Hey, let me think about it. He didn't go to Duke. He went to, he went to BYU. Yeah. He went to BYU. Yeah. Oh, don't think, hey, there's a reason why Utah

been sitting they started in, the guys ain't playing, the guys having surgery out for the rest of the year. And the NBA don't find them a half a million dollars for pulling that bulljive. They try to increase the ping pong balls. If they get, if Utah Jazz get the number one pick, boy, I'd know something. They, they're going to get it.

They don't get it. You know what it should be? Hey, to keep y'all from doing this bull job, everybody get one ball, one ping pong ball. And we pull it out, we pull it out. Yeah. Hey, the killer part is if OKC mess around get the number one pick. Oh, Lord. How much.

They don't necessarily. necessarily needed, but they could, hey, they can secure the future for a long time. They must write a, I don't even know, I don't even know what they would, who would that trade? And they got, they got, they got, uh, uh, chat, they got Hardinstein. They so, they so lucky right now.

They so deep, they guard heavy. Oh, man. I don't know, I just be thinking of different scenarios. I'm like, man, listen. Man, the number 12 high point stunts, 50, Wisconsin, 83, 82. Chase Johnson made a two point, basket of the season on the fast break layup with 11.7 seconds remaining.

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Wisconsin? And you have high point with bowling, huh? I tell y'all what? Yeah, hot point was getting. So one of y'all had, Ocho had high point. that fake. He picked the, he just looking at that mascot. I told you. Hey, what I was doing? He just

look at that mascot. I know. I know, I've seen Rob Martin play. Yeah, that, that, that, that, that, maybe I see right. You don't even know what high point is. Huh? You don't even know what high point is. It's insane. Wait, I don't know, you know, I don't know where is that.

It's in North Carolina. You didn't know where it was. Yeah. Hey. It used to be known as the furniture capital of the world. Yeah. I think, hey, I bet you, I bet you, I bet your bracket all messed up now. We didn't pick, nobody picked High Point?

Yes. Man, nobody. But I know who picked St. Louis to be Georgia. Who? Did you really? Ended up their ass. Ash, I hate him, man. Man, you go have somebody work for you to be hate.

No, what your bracket look like now? I don't know, Joe, I got to take a look at it. I got to take a look at it, but I didn't, I wouldn't. Oh, we go, we go show up brackets at the end. But I'm looking pretty good. I know I'm looking better than you. y'all to. No, no, no, no.

My bracket's still intact. Your bracket is intact. Hey, look, why you're talking about High Point? That's who we got next. That's who the Razorbacks got next. Y'all got to do something? Y'all in trouble, Joe. What you mean we're in trouble?

Y'all in trouble, Joe. Hey, Ojo, you remember them blinders you're talking about? Yes, sir. Yeah. Hey, hey, tunnel vision, baby, we focus. You hear me? Listen, I know y'all focus, Joe, but who's going to deal with Rob Martin, Joe? Man, listen.

Hey, look, we ain't worried about that. I'm just saying they got something for ACA. What they got? I'm sorry. Because ain't nobody had the recipe. Tell me what it is. I mean, they got the recipe. Man, please.

Okay. Hey, hey, we, we, we fast, athletic, we cause ruckus, put you in, put you in uncomfortable situations, okay, Ocho. We, you know, we, we play a good ball, man. These dudes look good out there, boy, I raise the back, look, focus.

Why you can talk? I mean, look, I know where high point is. As a matter of fact, Byr and son went to high point. I think it's like a, like a designer school. Yeah. You know, yeah.

For like interior design and things like that. Hey, guess who they go design on, huh? It's kind of like, it's kind of like a high point of like an artsy school. Hey, I know they had some boys eating their glass.

Yeah, they had 40 rebounds and 30. They didn't get the beat that bad on the glass. They just, You know, Wisconsin didn't put them away when they had a chance to. No. It had 22, I mean 27, Blackwell had 22, rap had 12. But Highpoint had five guys and double figures.

Yeah. Yeah. Yep. Yeah, we locked in. But I know High Point messed a lot of people brackets up. Yeah. Oh, of course. Of course they did that.

Of course they did. Oh, his high school was High Point? He's from North Carolina. No, he went to contests. Kentucky. High Point is the first Big South team to win an NCAA game since 2018. First four when Radford defeated Long Island.

The past are also the first Big South team to defeat a higher seed since the number 11 Winthrop defeated number five, Notre Dame in the round of 64 in 2007. Yeah, I've been in that high point. Hey, really? Yeah, it was called. I don't know, I don't know. I think somebody told me.

me that but it used to be called the furniture capital of the world because all the big furniture you can just go there and you get it at wholesale whatever you want yeah yeah yeah anybody anybody from North a high point is it still called a furniture capital or as a uh has the uh the uh the crisis the housing crisis did that destroy it mm it it still is okay All right. Darius A-Cuff scores 24

of the Arkansas breezes past Hawaii. 9778. Darius A-Cuff Jr. had 24 points in seven assists. Arkansas moves on to face number 12 high point in the second round of the West Regional. No, I mean, A. Ocho, look, we had all five starters and double figures today.

Yes, sir. That mean we're playing great basketball. You're me? You know, high point had five. I mean, four-starred in double figures and somebody off the bench in double figures. That means, look, we had 26 assists. I mean, we, that mean we're making plays for everybody. You feel me?

Okay. Yeah, yeah, yeah, we're going to be hard to guard, too. I don't know what you're talking about. You're talking about them. What about us? Okay, yeah, y'all nice. Joe, y'all been nice all year. What'd you say?

Y'all will have to shoot that three ball better. Y'all was 419 from the three. Yeah, yeah, yeah. But, see, what it is, see, we hanged a hat on our defense. Our defense, you know, it puts our offense in overdrive. You feel what I'm saying? Because we get turnovers, we get stops. And offensively, even though we got young guys at the helm at the point guard spot,

we don't turn the ball over, bro. We value every possession. We understand the moment. Man, dude, hey, they're ready. We locked in. All right. They locked in, Ocho. It sounds good.

When that game, when they play? Saturday. Saturday. Yeah. Okay, yeah. I'm gonna see you on the show, Joe, Saturday. Yeah, I'm on. You know who's from High Point?

Who? Fantasia. Oh, I know she grew up in a good church over that, boy. I don't know about the church, but I just know she's my point. Yeah, I mean, I'm just saying, hey, to sing like that. Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. That's church background. Oh, and Jasmine Sullivan.

Yes. All right, let's check the brackets. Let's check the brackets. Let me see, my. You forgot the game. You heard me? Huh? What we forgot, man?

We got the Kennesaw State game. Tell us about it. Go ahead. So who's on top? Oh, okay, okay, okay. That's my bracket's on the top. So let's go. We go.

I had Duke, uh, Louisville, Michigan State, Vanderbilt, Nebraska, Carolina, you're sorry.

I had Houston and I had Illinois. I had Arkansas. Gonzaga, Michigan, St. Louis. Next one is Ocho. Yeah, Ocho had Duke, Louisville, Michigan State. He won with Nebraska. He won with Illinois. He won with Texas A&M and with Houston.

He won with St. Louis, Michigan, and Arkansas. Joe. What we got? I'm winning. I don't. know, Joe, no, you're not. Ojo, why you're asking for a hard? You and I know, Joe.

You had Duke, you had Louisville, you had Michigan State, you had Vanderbilt, you had Nebraska, you had A&M, you had Houston. Yeah, you had BYU going a long way, Joe. Didna? Yeah, you did. Damn. Arkansas, Gonzaga, St. Louis, and Michigan. So you had one, two, three, four, five, six, seven, eight, nine.

nine, 10, 11. You had 12 wins, Joe. Ocho had one, two, three, four, five, six, seven, eight, nine, ten wins. And I had one, two, three, four, five, six, seven, eight, nine, ten, eleven, one. Oh, I'm winning. Right now, Joe is in first place with 12 wins.

I got 11. Ocho has T. Don't worry about it. Hey, Chad. Hey, Chad. There you go. There you go. You go see you doing too much, Joe.

You're doing too much. I talk to chat. Chat. Chat. Hey, listen. Hey, the man don't play by me, okay? I'm locked in on these boys, man. These boy can't beat me at nothing.

I'm locked in. Joe, that's the first round. First, we got a long way to go, Joe. I really were talking to chat. You or Ocho just happened to be on here. I'm talking to chat. I was me and Chad having a conversation. Y'all just so happened to be on here, but

locked in, right? There you go. I had, Hey, North Carolina mess you up. No, I had them to win, but then I'm having had them lose the next round to Illinois. Okay, okay, okay. I ain't worried about Ocho.

Yeah, he picking mascots over there. We good. Ocho, you got North Carolina, you got North Carolina to be, had Illinois, got them going on past. My bad. Yeah, I can't worry about it. I was just going up, you know,

prestigious school known for basketball. you know, making it a foreign tournaments, you know? I mean, listen. Yeah, we know. You pick the mascots. My bad. Okay, Ocho, you want to tell us about the Gonzaga game. Hold on.

Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah. Hey, Joe. What's happening? Hey, listen to my basketball prowess. Let me see what you got. Let me hear you out. Yeah. Let me know you're ready.

Go ahead. I'm listening. Oh, so, listen. The Zags, the Zags, the Alves game, it was good. Obviously, Kennesaw State. being a team that's not as good as the Zags, right? I mean, like, you understand what I'm talking about? So every possession matters.

Every offensive play matters, you know. When you choose to shoot the ball, shot selection matters moving the ball around, keeping everybody moving, finding the right plays, finding the right shots. Boom, you win in the game. Yeah. You was winning the game.

But obviously, the better team, the Zags, you know, they came back in one. But what I want to say is, right, The thing is, I can't remember the big center. I think his last name was Ike. I-K-E. For who? For Kenesaw?

For the Zag. Oh, yeah. A-G-G-I-G-E. Oh, hey, boy, he was here to deal with Down in that block. Yeah. Yeah, they was fine. He was trying to find him. They were swinging the ball and finding when he could.

He had his way down there. Then they had a young bull on the Zags, too. He kept hitting a goddamn three. He wore number four. Yeah. He came off the bench. He came off the bench. He came off the bench.

And he's getting money at the arc, and he's putting that ball in the flow getting to a spot every time. Yeah. I know. I don't think I got Gonzaga going far. I know they always discipline Uncle Ocho when they play. You know, they're going to play a good discipline game,

but, you know, I don't think I got them going that far. Mm-mm. Hey, that's not fair, man, too, man. But Kenesaw State, hey, you know, Kennesaw State, Joe, that's us. That's the naked way. Right down the street. Man, I'll put that up there.

Well, let me see. Oh, King Ice, hey, listen, man, hey, look, hey, look, hey, let me tell you, Uncle, let me tell you an Ocho or something, man, we're coming up on a year, us hanging out, you know, it's going to, April going to give us a year. And until the other day, we had been on the, you know, everything had been on the up and up and we had all been all good, you know what I mean? Yeah, I don't you mean, Joe? It's just when I, when somebody tried me, I understand.

I, you know, I got to put the Smackdown, I got to put it out. of mean demonstration and I hate for it to even go away. I really do. Hey, I mean, I mean, you know what? You, you, you, Joe, you ever grew up with siblings? Nope. Look at the child. Hey, man, you have a, uncle.

You grew up with siblings, huh? Man, you know I got a brother or the sister. Okay, so y'all, y'all, y'all get it to us sometime. Y'all go through little quarrel sometime, huh? Man, look at it, man, they got all kind of stuff up there with you. Oh yeah. Look at this one. Yeah, yeah.

Hey, Ocho, Ocho, I understand where you coming from. We're just having a little riff. but we're gonna go and get out of the fade out of the way. We still love each other, but we gotta get that fade on out of the way. Joe, listen, I love you like a brother, Joe. I love you like a brother, you know? You feel me? I love you like you're my son, you hear ya.

Yeah, yeah. You gonna get this work though. Yeah. Hey, why I'm getting here? Shit, that's what's going to happen? What? Yeah, you're talking about what you think? What do you thought will go happen?

It ain't going to happen like that. I ain't got, listen, I got discipline in that ring. My hand definitely isn't going to be down like that. I got discipline too, bro. That's the thing. They got Joe, they got Joe with a road. Atlanta Hawk Role, Big Street, Joe Johnson. Hey, hey, Joe, look at this one.

They got an Ocho. They're saying to you. Man. They got Poachio. They call it Pocho. Panogio. Hey. Hey, Joe, you're fin of my rad, Joe.

You're going to feel my rad, Joe. My rap. Man, Joe, I think Joe to hide got his own personal graphics team. Yeah. Hey. Hey, that's the perfect picture he needs to here. Hey, Joe, listen, Joe, I don't lie or anything I say is from, it's life experience. It's things that I was experienced in life, Joe.

Yeah. I got you. I got you, bro. I got you. I love you like your brother, but you're going to feel like you're fighting two people. We can get in there with me, though. I can see that. Hey, you know what's funny?

I don't like, the people on the outside, they think everything so serious. Like people. We family. What are y'all? Yeah, they write thing pieces and they write the thesis.

Hey, hey. Oh, they, hey. Oh, but Ocho, you got up easy. They had me on the shade room. They had me on the Jasmine brand. They had me on everything. You? don't love his kids.

He don't love his family. Now I see why he's single. I said, I ain't have no problem. I just said, oh, chose you to gave Joe a heads up. But then, then it came out what actually happened. The hate room ain't nobody put nothing up there. Ain't nobody saying nothing. I said, well, damn.

So I'm trying to figure out y'all deduced. I hate my kids. I think I did a property. Me and the moms did a pretty good job. We got three college graduates. Last one is in residence. Got another year of residence and she'll be a fool, a real doctor.

I thought we did a pretty good job. Yeah, yeah, yeah. I don't love my kids. I hate my kids. I don't like my family. I see why he's single. And everybody that probably said that single just like me. That big of me, Joe, Joe,

they make it see like me and you, the only ones that ain't married. Everybody else, everybody else that be in the chat being married. I was like, man, get your ass out of here. Hey, hey, people in the chat,

they're going through the same problems we go through. Man. Of course. Same everything. I don't know why everybody's trying to act like they're all perfect. And we just happen to live ours in front of everybody else. That's, that's it.

It's bad, man, old, man, oldcho, old show, I was like, bro,

y'all take this way too serious. It ain't that serious. It's not. It's not. But I, you know what? But hey, you know what it is, though? Go ahead, Ocho. What is it?

Hey, Uncle Joe. What was that? Know what it is? It's great entertainment. It's organic. It's authentic. It's authentic. Nothing is scripted.

These things are happening. They're recurring in real time. Yes. You know, that situation, it was real. Yeah, it was real. Yeah. But we get on here. We talk about it.

We jab at it. You know, You get on me. Yeah. I accept accountability. It's a real situation. But then we keep going. But we do it in an entertaining format.

Right, right. But everybody, they take it so serious. Oh, my God. And he did this. If I was so-and-so, I wouldn't mess with those chow no more. Wait a minute. I mean, hey, I mean, they kind of got some points, though. I mean, I could kind of see where they're coming from a little bit.

You know what I mean? You can understand. You might not agree with them, but you understand that joke. You kind of see what they're coming from. You know what I mean? Listen, hey, Joe, I don't. I don't because they don't live in no glass house. I don't live no glass house.

They ain't no better than me. I think, look, a part of them, some of them do, some of them not happy for us, Ocho. Oh, they're not. I think the vast majority, look, because I think the thing is this, the street committee, that's what I call the internet.

Yes, sir, yes, sir. But for the most part, When you see somebody out there, it's all positive. Yeah. When I see people out there, it's all positive. Yes. Joe, you see people, it's all positive. I don't get nothing negative, but on here.

Yeah. Yeah. I don't get anything. Only thing is Twitter and IG, I don't get, I don't have, I mean, I ain't looked at Facebook in a hundred years. But that, that's what it is. But all I'm saying is, if you get something wrong, you know, be bad enough to, a woman enough to say, you know where I was wrong.

Right. But the shade room. you got it wrong. But instead of said you got it wrong, you pretend like y'all didn't hear nothing, Jasmine, Brandon, and everybody else that ran with it, like y'all ran with it, come on back. Hey.

That's all we ask you to do to come on back. When Ocho gets something wrong, he'll say, oh, I was wrong with that. I get something wrong, I'm wrong with that. But you take a clip because you can tell the people that watch Nightcap regularly, he's like, y'all missing the point. Yeah.

Ocho had asked for the tickets. Okay, he said he shouldn't have gone to the thing. saying he should have just gave Joe the heads up. That's all I was saying. Right. But they took it, man, Unk don't love his kid.

That's why he'd went to the game. He'd win to the game. He'd win to the game. No, I wouldn't. But that's what I don't really, I don't really schedule anything. Listen, I, I, but we ought to do this as like, hey.

I tell you what? What? There's a reason why we the best there is out there. But sure. And you can't replicate it. Nope. Hey, listen, hey, Uncle Joe, we ain't got to talk about nobody. We ain't got to be negative to get the views of, to be entertaining.

Everything is organic. The stories are real. Man, ain't close. Hey, but Joe, but after I say all that, you still going to get these hands, though. I give you prime guys, I give you a prime example. Everybody that had a pod, what did they talk about? The hottest story, the trending story was Kenyon. Yeah.

We didn't talk about that. Yeah. Because I don't feel like I don't feel I didn't feel that if we want to if you want to talk about it or Joe we could have talked about it but I don't feel I have anything to add to it. Yeah. Yeah. All this other stuff that was going on. We don't talk about we don't talk about other people because I think there's enough stuff happening that we can talk about that without mentioning them. Yeah. Absolutely right. People don't want to hear you constantly talk about Shannon Sharp or Stephen A. Smith. They want to hear you.

Talk about your sports, Joe, so talk about some sports. Yeah. Hell, I ain't played sports a quarter of the of century. But that's what makes us unique. We talk about sports. We can make things entertaining. We take the simplest things and make it very, very entertaining. People want to be entertained.

At the end of the day, people want to be entertaining. But they don't want to be entertaining while you constantly trying to berate somebody and put somebody down. There you go. That's the thing. Okay. Hell, I ain't did anything. entertaining the quite some time.

I'm playing on TV with that way. Hey, don't wait. Hey, I take, I'll take, go ahead. And the part. You hear me? You say what? Let me take care of entertaining part. Let me be the villain.

That's, that's my spiel. I be the bad guy. Oh, Joe, they taking things that we said in like the first, like I said in the first month, and you and I was joking in the first month of the show. Yes, sir. They planned it now. And people say, see, that's why it happened.

Yeah. Bro, I said that three years ago. But because you take the clips, you want to paint, try to paint me in a negative light, and people don't know any better. Because if it's up there, if I post, if we post something today, people are going to assume it was said today or yesterday.

Yeah. They're not looking to see you man. He said that about not going to girls' house three years ago. Yeah. Why y'all talking about it now? Mm-hmm. But I get it. It took me a while to understand.

I was like, I see what you're trying to do. Y'all realize what the algorithm is. Y'all know who's in the algorithm. Mm-hmm. Mishing his name. People are going to click. Hey, Shannon Sharp, uh, uh, uh, one of Oscar, click.

Shannon Sharp was walking down the street. The car broke down. Click. It is what it is. It is what it is now, Ocho. So we just got to accept that. We just got a joke. I'm sorry that we roped you into it.

But you were part of it now. So anything to Ocho and I do. It's a guilty by association. You guilty by association. Do blast TCU. About the score of 81 to 58 is the tail of two halves of Cameron Boozer. In the first two points, he was all one on the first half. Two points on O'1 field goal and plus the minus plus.

minus a minus five in 15 minutes. In the second half, he was 17 points on seven or nine shooting plus 20 and 19 minutes. Joe, he got it going in the second half. Yeah. As you can see, they had it going. They didn't need him to do a whole lot, but, I mean, they shot 55% from the floor. They shot 87% from the two point, the free throw line, excuse me, 20 of 23 from the free throw line. Because they're so big.

Man, they're tall team. Huge, boy. I mean, hey, and they get offensive rebounds, they get put back. You ain't got no choice but to file them. Yeah. And the horn frogs were overmatched. And, uh, man, Booza is, he's something. Hey.

He's something. He started off slow, Uncle Joe. Yeah. But boy, he made Camboza made that thing look so easy in that second half. Yeah. Yeah. I think. The problem is is that when you, when he's struggling, you got to put some separation between you.

Yeah. You can't be down. Right. And he's struggling like he's struggling. He's giving you 22 and 10 on the season. You got him at two points. You better, hey, you better be, and you need to be in front of them by about six to ten points.

Yeah. I agree. I agree. What I noticed was, Glenn, for me, is that, you know, he averaging, what, 20, what he he averaging, what he averaging, 22, 22 again? 22 and 10. Even though he only had two points in that first half, Uncle Ocho. It wasn't like he was like one for eight, one for nine.

You know what I mean? He finished seven for ten. from the field. So he was patient, and in the second half, he turned it up. Man, that's, that's, that's, that's, that's, that's, that's, that's, that's, that's, that's, a tremendous, uh, pro career. I mean, he, he, he's a monster down there, bro. Yeah.

He, uh, you know, he got the body type. Hell, he already built like his dad. Yeah. Yeah. He already built like booze. And you think he'd be, he better than pops at this stage? Yeah. Yeah.

Yeah. Right now, yes. Yeah. Yeah. Right now, yes. Now, will he be a better pro? I don't know. Brue was an all-star.

Yeah. Turned himself as a second-round pick, end up getting a big-time deal from Utah. Yeah. So I don't know what he'll be. Will he be better than his dad? But if you were to project him right now, if you look at him right now.

He definitely better than his dad as a freshman, hell. His dad didn't come out. But as a freshman, yes. Is he a better college player to his dad? Yes. Will he be a better pro than his dad? That remains to be seen. Right.

But this kid's a flat-out-down play. Yeah, he can play. It ain't, it's nothing flashy about his game. Like, ain't nothing going to jump off the screen. Yeah. Kind of on, like, on some Tim Duncan type stuff. You know what I mean? Like, he just get it done, bro.

It may not look as pretty to some, but it's effective. It's effective. Yeah. Yes. And, but Duke, I mean, you get, Malik Brown gave you 12, and you got Sarr gave you 14, and Evans gave you 17. Even Caden Boozoo, who had an outstanding game the first round. He gave you nine.

Yeah. They got 10 points. I mean, they, they don't really depend on the bitch. It's those starters that you have to worry about. Yeah, everybody was in double figures except one person. Mm-hmm. And so that's what you have to worry about with Duke. They come at you that they're, look.

For them to convince those guys to play together because, look, all these guys are four and five stars. Yeah. All these guys were the guy at their prospective schools. Yeah. Now for the greater good, we need you to see. sacrifice. Yeah.

It's a lot easier said than done. Oh, yeah. Because everybody thinks they got an opportunity to be a damn lottery pick, a top five pick. Hello. I can't be no top five. I can't be no top five pick, you know, you know,

I need, hey, let me, I need to get me like 15 and 10, 15 and 8, 20 and 8. And you're talking about share the ball? Hey, no, no, uh-uh, uh-uh. And you know, some of these guys, Joe probably average 25 and 15, 30 and 8. What did you tell my? In high school.

Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Yeah, but that's a difference. That's a difference. See, in high school, you can be the best because you might be playing with less talent. You know what I mean? Once you get to college, power five, bro, everybody on the team talented.

Yeah. You know what I mean? The cream's going to rise to the top. But for the most part, I just feel like when you get to college, you can kind of see the separating factor of a lot of guys. You know what I mean? Guys who really got that it factor,

you know, they start to show it. And it shows up in close, tight games, bro. And you go to do, you with, you was a guy in college. You hear me? Yeah, they ain't just, I mean, just like any time, you go to your big time, you go to Ohio State, you go to Alabama, you go to Georgia. You can play in high school. You're a damn good high school.

Yeah. They ain't just giving them no, no, Arbor. Now, look, they might have a one or two guys that they did a favor to for this big boost or somebody got a legacy scholarship or something like that. Right. But for the most part, they top 80 guys? Yeah. They legit.

Yeah. Well, you obviously, you don't have that many guys in basketball. These guys can play. Oh, yeah. Yeah. Ain't a one star. Ain't a walk on. He comes out there on senior night, and his dad said, I'm proud of your son.

You stuck it out for four years. Yeah. You get that one. Hey. Hey, dude. You don't get that no more. And look, hey, you think you, you think you're going to come in here, and it's going to be smooth selling.

Them dudes put in work, okay, Ocho. We did a training camp when I played for the, the Brooklyn Nets. Yeah. We did a training camp in Duke. And, man, they got an NBA facility, bro. This ain't no, this ain't no pee-wee stuff. You hear me?

Yeah. Look, the guy, you go, you go to those programs. You know why you go there. Yes, I can get a great education. In a year? In a year? I'm trying to get to the edge level. You're not going to stay there long enough to graduate.

Now, you might eventually go back and take online classes. and get your degree, but you ain't get no damn degree in no one year. Right, right. You look at all them guys, they won and done. Kyrie, one and done. Cooper Flag, one and done. Zionn, one and done.

Ingram, one and done. Tatum, one and done. I got one and done. I got one for you. It ain't like it used to be with Krista Laytoner. They stay in four years. Grant Hill, Thomas Hill, all those guys. It ain't like that no more.

It was different. Their guys gone. I'm coming to Duke. You know why I'm coming. Because I remember, hey, I remember the coach you're talking about they mess up your program. I ain't recruit no one and done. Okay.

John said, I take them on. Coach Cal said, I take them all. Can't beat them join them. You're right. Hey, son, you want to be one and done? Come on. Right. Hey, you got to be the gateway to the lead.

You got to fall in line. You know, you got to keep up with the Joneses. These young dudes ain't trying to be in school no more than one year. That's it, you then or not. Yeah. You got to be special, though. I just left four. I just left school for four.

I just left school for 12. Y'all was in school? How long? You think I want to do this upon another phone? Absolutely not. Man, I'm trying to get this time. I'm trying to be, hey, I'm going to class until after the new year.

When the new year hit, I'm done. Hey, Uncle Joe. What's up? But who the best to come out of Duke? But who the best do devil to come out of their play at the next level? You talk about just as a college player? Yeah. Chris and Leightner.

Chris and Layton, yeah. Damn, y'all answered that fast. Yeah. As a college player? Now, you're talking about who transitioned and became a pro. Right. That remains to be seen.

Probably Grant Hill had the highest ceiling. Right. But he got hurt because Grant could do it all. He was LeBron before LeBron. Right. A guy that 6 foot 8 could handle the ball, could play, could initiate the offense with an outstanding defensive player,

could score the basketball. He was going to be sensational. Obviously, injuries robbed him of that. Yeah. But as a college player, it ain't even close. Yeah. Ain't nobody at Duke close to Crystal Leitner. I got a question.

I got a question. Obviously, we know what Kyrie can do in the NBA. I didn't watch college, I didn't watch college basketball back then. So how far was Kyrie from what he is in the NBA as opposed to when it was at Duke? Was he far off or you could already tell him. You got to realize Kyrie got hurt. Carrey only played like maybe 15 games. Yeah.

That's it? Yeah. He got hurt. He got hurt. He hurt. He hurt and still. He hurt and still went number one. Yes.

That's how special. he was. Oh, yeah. Okay, okay, okay. Yeah. Yeah. But he, but when he played, now he played in the second half

for the season, Ocho. Now, he's out there getting money. He wasn't out there's bull driving now. Yeah. Yeah. Man, y'all need to stop. What happened? As a college player,

wasn't nobody close to Christian Lincoln. Wait, who did is? Not as a college player. You can make a case that Christian Layton is a top five college player of all time. Yeah. Back-to-back national championship, they took down the mythical team in L&V.

Yeah. I don't know if y'all remember that Saturday when they went up, when they played L. You do y'all remember what they did to the fab five man. Man, y'all better get that man his credit. I'm not saying what he transitioned into. I'm talking about as a purely college player.

The chance said no. They're talking about Grand Hill. Grand Hill was the second option to Crystal Leitner. Bobby Hurley was a second option. Thomas Hill was a second option. Although, Krista Leitner and the shot that he hit against Kentucky. Oh, yeah, I remember that. I remember that.

No, he was real. He was real. He was real. He was real. No, Christian Leighton was really good. I couldn't stand Duke. That joke of there. Nobody can stand dude.

Hey, hey, but you know, man, that dude there? Now, if you talk about, like, transition, like the ability, he wasn't fast, he couldn't jump. But that joke just did everything right. Man, that joke will back door you up and under, get your A&1, got your being in foul trouble. Like, damn. Yeah, yeah. Somebody beat them. Yeah, A-O-J-O and I was so happy when U-NL-B beat,

they'll beat the brakes off of him in the national championship. And then the next year they come back at I-Bid, damn. They didn't beat, they didn't beat, they didn't beat, they didn't beat you and L. being the national championship because we knew that was going to be the national, that was the national championship right there. Yeah. And then he followed up again and got it back-to-back.

Yeah. My, uh... When the last time you saw an S-A-T team go back-to-back? Florida. Florida, Florida. Florida. I, Horford. I'm Hartford, Florida.

At Florida. Florida, what, 06-07? Yeah. Yeah. But that's hard to go back to back. They have Yonkeem Noah, Corey Brewer. Yeah. They had a nice squad.

Yeah. Man, it's hard to go, it's hard to go back to back. In college? Yeah. Especially. It ain't like it used to be where guys actually stayed all four years. Right. Them guys gone.

I won a national championship, and I'm the guy. I mean, for Al Horford and Keem and Brood for them to come back and try to do it again? Yeah. Boy, they really love the college life, guys. You hear me? Most of them guys, they gone. Because they weren't even getting the NIL back then. They all know.

I mean, for what we know. Man, I don't. Yukon went back to back, right? Do you con go back to back? Yeah. Yeah. So Yukon went back to back 23, 24. Florida went back to back, what, 06, 07,

and then did anybody go back to back in the 90s other than Duke? No, my razorbacks, they went to the championship game back to back but we lost to UCLA in 95. 95, yeah. That's when they had the O'Bannon boy. Yep, yep. And ties eddy, right? Yep, yep.

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