Nightcap - Best of NBA News Part 1: Giannis TRADED to Miami Heat + Julius Randle TRADED to Brooklyn Nets + Trae Young signs EXTENSION with Wizards

Episode Date: June 25, 2026

Shannon Sharpe, Chad "Ochocinco" Johnson, and Joe "King Iso" Johnson bring you the Best of NBA on Nightcap! The crew reacts to the blockbuster trade that sent Giannis Antetokounmpo to the Miami Heat, Julius Randle heading to the Brooklyn Nets and more Subscribe to Nightcap presented by PrizePicks so you don’t miss out on any new drops! Download the PrizePicks app today and use code SHANNON to get $50 in lineups after you play your first $5 lineup! Visit https://prizepicks.onelink.me/LME0/NI... 0:00 - Giannis Antetokounmpo traded to Heat29:41 - Timberwolves trade Julius Randle in 3-team trade35:48 - Trae Young to sign 4-year, $212M deal with Wizards42:10 - Ron Harper on his son being compared to James Harden (Timestamps may vary based on advertisements.) #ClubSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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Yon is traded in Miami for that package? I told, what I told you? Man, we got to get BP back on. here. I can't wait to y'all. See, I can't wait to y'all to him. Hey, Ojo, we got to get BP back on here. Janice.

So, Chad, did you hear that? Hey, I want you all to say. Yonnis is traded to the Miami Heat. Yonis and Bobby Porter's goes to the heat. Tyler Hero. Kale Ware. Jaime Hotquez, three first round picks, a pig swap and a second round pick.

Goes to Milwaukee. Hold on. Oh, so Bobby came to Miami, too? Yeah. That's why I said we got to get BP back on here, man. I told, remember what Bobby said about when I told him, Yonis was coming here? Yeah.

And little did he know he was a part of it. Huh? Okay. Blachsham, the Milwaukee Bucks are trading franchise icon Janus Anto Tchaquo and Bobby Porter's to the Miami Heat, Tala Hero, Kale Ware, Jaime Hockaz. I can't even pronounce this other guy's name, so I'm not going to butcher it.

Three first round picks, including number 13, one pick swap, and a second round. sources tell ESPN. There you go. Somebody says Mitchell Robinson going to the Bulls. Also, they are going to draft A Cuff. Trade Getty. We should make the playoffs.

This is why this. We can buy what we want and compete fast. But you just, I guess, I mean, you just traded for Claxton. Hey, Un? Yeah. I'm still looking to see what that's at. What, Janis? Yeah.

The Shams. Sean's reported it 58 seconds ago. Yon is going to like that. That new deal. Hey, note the taxes. Nice weather. He gets to meet me? Yeah, you get to meet you.

So now, okay, we got one big domino fall. Okay, where does Jock go? Hey, Unk, didn't I tell you, I say Pat got one more thing up his sleeve? He ain't got nothing to offer. You would say trade and bam? No. Okay. Hey, but I just,

it's still something up his sleeve. Now give him time. Janus is gone. Get the shifty. Somebody say Jockto Orlando, Ocho. Can't believe Jalen Brown's finals MVP, got drafted before Tatum, top three pick in 2016,

get traded over blowing a 3-1 lead or over that podcast. Sh, cold whirl. Look, I think the thing, is it, there's so much smoke. Is it a situation, Ocho, where you're almost damn near, like,

have to trade J.B. now? Or you're cool bringing him back, because he already know how y'all feel about it, because every time a trade scenario comes up with the Celtics. His name? Well, he's the only person of value to talk about. Who else we're going to talk about trading? J.T.

We ain't talking about nobody else. But if I would, I mean, they're not going to let him go. They understand how important he is. And obviously even with JT being a year removed from that Achilles tear, him still having, you know, he was efficient, he was good during his time. You don't want him to have to leave that team again by himself. No, no, they're not letting him go nowhere. So you think he stays at least one more year?

Yeah, absolutely. At least one more. At least one more. Who said that? That's what they want? I don't know. I don't see that. LeBron and Pat, after that man untook his cookies.

Oh, back to, um, back to, uh, oh, I, oh, I like that. I like, hey, I like that. I bet you do. LeBron back to Miami? I bet you do. Huh? With Bobby P. and Yonis? Mm-hmm.

Hold on. Let me text LeBron. Hold on. Hold on. Let me text LeBron. That bad business. He said he ain't fooling with you. I need to invite Rich Paul on here one night.

Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, tell him, boy, come on. No. Who's the point guard? I mean, who's the point? I mean, yeah, Janice and Bam, okay. You got two guys that can protect the paint. Right. But who's the point guard?

LeBron. So the question is, what y'all do? Are y'all bringing back Norman Powell? Eh. Hey, Pat got some up his sleeve. I don't want to disclose any more information. You know, I've already done more than I should. And once again, I am right.

As I am 98% of the time. I'm just, I'm just leave it at that. Mickey Eris and then Pat Riley have some up their sleeve, and we're going to see if it works. According to Shams, Yonnas is expected to be traded before the start of the NBA draft Tuesday, with the Celtics and Heat emerging as finalists to land the Buck superstar.

You don't say. The folks are not expected to include a third team in the Yonis trade, according to a source, and are focused solely on negotiating with the Celtics and the heat. Sources told Shams that if traded the two Milwaukee for Yonis, Brown, would remain with the bugs. Oh, Joe, the moment of truth.

That ain't going to happen. If you're a betting man, Yonis ends up in Miami, or does he end up in Boston? Well, if you're a bed man, I didn't tell you all the past six months where he was gone. I don't know how long I've been said it.

You know, I ain't going to tell you who my source is. But again, everything I say, listen, I might tell a joke or two, but I ain't going to lie to you. Right. I said where he was going a long time ago. You know, y'all laughed it off. You all ain't believe me,

but I told you he was down here looking for houses. Boom. Now it comes down to it. Yeah, listen, Janice, Tatum, and Jalen Brown, that ain't happening. We know that's not happening. No. He's going to be in Miami, you know. Pat Riley got something else on this sleeve.

Obviously, when Yonnas get here, he got one more movie trying to make. We'll see if that comes into fruition so we can compete in the East. We don't want to be decoration. We want to be playing, you know, not in the plan, but being a seed. Clearly, Boston have the most assets. You get Tyler Hero, you get Jaime Hawkees, you get K-O-Ware, and if I'm not mistaken, if I was reading it correctly, you get three first-round picks and you get some pick swaps.

Yes, sir. Now, on the flip side, you get Jalen Brown, you get two late-round draft picks, two late-first-round draft picks. I don't know the guy. You can put it up here? Okay. The Miami Heat would send. Tyler Hero, Jaime Highke's,

Kale Ware, Nicola Hobbit, pick 13, two future first round picks. Boston would send Jalen Brown, Hugo Gonzalez, pick 27, and a future first round pick. Now, the question is, do you trust your scouting department? Do you trust your drafting department? Because you've got a team that can go play right now

with Hero, Hawkezz, Ware, Hobbit, considering what you still have there, Jalen Brown is a number one option. He's going to sell tickets. But it seems to me they want draft capital. Remember, they bought Dame Lillard out of his deal. They still owe him like a hundred-something million. Damn.

So, but if you give up all that, if you're the heat, Bam and Yonis ain't winning no championship. They got one more trick up their sleeve, huh? I'm going to see if you work. I sure hope so because this happens every time Ocho is that you give up

all your assets and when the guy get there the covet is bare that's what happened see just imagine if the warrior had to trade for Kevin Durant now you can't keep all those pieces

because he's a free agent and you didn't have to give up anything anything yeah made it easy made it easy when they're mad at us you see the chat they're mad enough y'all keep it's always it's always us

when yonnis says he could see himself playing for someone other than Milwaukee out of his own mouth that's what he said i didn't say that joe didn't say that you didn't say that the medias didn't say that yonis said he could see himself

playing for someone other than the bucks yeah i bid damn if they ain't get mad at us the media y'all keep bringing it up y'all keep bringing it up it should have gave you it should have gave you pause for cause when he didn't sign the extension in year five he didn't mention nothing about playing somebody else and year eight he didn't mention by saying playing somewhere else and you're 10 now all of a sudden he mentions he could the possibility of playing elsewhere yeah they didn't sign the extension that would have kept him there they think of what they

hard huh they think about they hard not think what they mind that's a all. No, don't be mad. Ain't, messy. No, y'all messy. Y'all get mad at us. All we do is report.

How do we have something report on if there's nothing? Y'all get mad every time when we, Ocho and I told you something was brewing in Philly. Y'all got mad. How you know? You ain't in the locker room. All you doing is tabloid. Do y'all think, y'all really be thinking people nightly,

I'm not saying they don't. But 98% of the time, the sources, the sources is the head coach, the general manager, the owner, the player personnel, the scouting department. That's the source. And guess what? And a sprinkling of players in there. Mm-hmm. Yeah.

Shoot. I've been getting cussed out all day on Twitter. Talk about the Cleveland Browns and Deshaun Watson. You know, and they cussing me out, I don't know what I'm talking about. Oh, and Jerry Judy or source? I say, hey, this had nothing to do with Jerry Judy. You talk about, oh, we took a picture a few days ago and all of a sudden, now I'm saying what I'm saying.

No, for one, Jerry Judy's from Miami. Right. We grew up together. I'm just a little bit older. I mean, you would hope people understand that. But no, I'm using common sense and logic. The money's going to play. There's nothing wrong with Shadoor.

I love Shadour. I've said it countless times. He played well. He played well last year. You know, had some ups and outs. He has some growing pains. Yes. But if Deshaun watching is healthy, he's going to be the starter whether you like it or not because of the money.

Yep. It's common sense if you understand the game. That's it. That's not a source. That's me having common sense in how the game goes. So in other words, they mad at the messengers. Because when Adam Schepter say that, y'all don't say Adam Schepter being messy. When Shams say that, y'all don't say Shams being messy.

Right. When Wode used to break story after story after story, y'all didn't say Wold's making it up. So why Ocho and I got to be making it up? And y'all come to the conclusion, well, Jared, you took a picture. Why does it matter how we got our information? We're telling you something you didn't know. And then you turned around like, oh, we all knew that. No, you didn't.

Because you argued me and the Ocho down. But y'all knew it now. But I'm just saying, why isn't Wodge? Why is it Jay Glaser? Why isn't Shams? Why isn't all those other people that give y'all inside information that they got from sources? Why aren't they messy? I've never heard, and I follow Shepter.

I've known Shepter longer than anybody. Anybody that is being Shepter and I used to go to dinner. His mom and dad used to come to town. we would go to an Italian restaurant called Carmines. Ask it. He got to Denver the same time I got to Denver. I've looked up on his comments. Not one time have y'all ever said the man was messy.

I look up on the Sean's comments. Never you say he's messy. I look up on the show. So I just need y'all to tell me why when we give you information from a player's standpoint and we can see things that you can't, we can understand things that you can't. why is Ocho and Unk being messy? Just answer me that.

Go ahead, chat. Take off. No, they, they, they, they, they, they, they, they, no, crash out. I'm asking y'all a simple question. Don't know, no, no, crash out. Answer the question. Hey.

No, they got, they got, no, I don't want to relax. I'm fine. I've been sleep all day. Why y'all, see, you know what, see, did you, Ocho? Instead of answering the question, crash out, relax. No, tell me why Ocho and I are my, messy, Adam Sheffter report the same thing.

Adam Schaefter said things were going on in the locker room. When Ocho and I tried to tell you, you just being messy. Y'all will never say Adam Schuster starting anything. Y'all never say, Sean, I'm starting anything. Nobody listen to me because I play so much. I ain't been, I'm right 98% of the time. I'm right 98% of the time anytime I say something. I don't, you know what, Ocho?

I don't say anything because if I were to say stuff y'all gonna try to pinpoint who I got it from so to keep everybody safe I don't say nothing I just let it play out

let it play out y'all find out in time it's like when the levy bus man why don't you tell me it's gonna flood y'all gonna find out sooner later yeah I know a lot that ain't my job I'm gonna let it play out

Because all you're going to do is tell me I don't know what I'm talking about. That's all you're going to do. Tell me I don't know what I'm talking about. We've been, I was on this OJ Brown since October. And I say the reason why you don't do that, I say because you'll have a game if you're not careful. And when they come to your Ocho, and you don't make no plays, they're going to let you have it. And I'll be damn the Rams game, the playoffs, Ocho. It came full, it came full circle.

Yes, sir. There are a lot of things I see. Y'all forget that a lot of these coaches, a lot of these general managers, I know them. You ain't get it from me. Okay. Call me what you want to. But just call me correct. Say what you won't.

Just say I'm correct. Why is it so hard for people to give people credit, especially our people. Y'all get Adam Schefter, y'all get Adam Schefter credit like it's nothing. Paul, me and Ocho, we just, being old. You're just a poll huddler trying to grow a channel. Yeah. We can't get no credit. You know, he got that big entity behind him.

No, no, no, no. It ain't down the entity. Ocho, we've been telling, we look here, we played the game. Yes, sir. We're telling you what we see. We tell you the interactions that's taking place, having been a receiver, having been a tight-in, having dealt with the quarterback. Mm-hmm.

Tell you something All the years Experience that we got between us We got 50 years of playing football Yeah Organized football But now we don't know what we're talking about So I'm crashing the aunt

Guess what? Y'all listen to me, crash out I love it All the day, all the day y'all call it, y'all still Y'all, I just don't, I say what day of? Me and Ocho can say something Yeah, this show did, such and such. Hold on, man, Ocho said that.

I say, what's it? Damn. No, we don't get it. You ain't got it yet. Nope, no, now you get it. Now you, but damn. Ocho, now they get it. Now, the Boston Celtic situation.

A rare bull. Please. Ocho, they got mad at us. The Boston Celtic situation with J.L. With J.B. and J.T. Y'all trying to break them up. Y'all trying to break them up.

You can't break up something that doesn't want to be broken up. Yeah. Talk to the Boston Celtics. J.B. sees himself as a number one. Yeah. The Celtics sees him Jason Tatum as the number one. He was never going to be seen in the eyes that we see him now, as long as Jason Tatum was there.

What happened? Jason Tatum unfortunately got injured. Jalen Brown got an opportunity. to show you he was the number one. Number one. Because even when Jay, when Jason, or when J.T., excuse me, when J.B. won Eastern Conference

Finals MVP, the Larry Bird Award, when he won finals MVP, what did everybody say? That's because everybody geared their defense to stop Jason Tatum. You still wouldn't get a man to credit. Even though he had the hardware on his mantle, you tried to make a reason or an excuse

why he got it. Okay? So now, Jason Tatum is injured. he averages a career high. He gets his team to the number two seed. Hey, you know it's funny? That's one of those situations is there's really nothing

that Jalen Brown could have done to change not only the eyes of the people but the people in the organization that felt Justice Stadium was the number one. That is the thing, Ocho. It's how they view them in the organization. Yeah, yeah. You can't change.

You can't change their mind in the organization. Even based on what you did when he was hurt. They still feel the same way or trade, there would be no trade rumors with your name in it. Thank you. You've never, tell me the time that you've ever heard a trade scenario when Jason Tatum was involved. Every trade scenario has always involved Jalen Brown. Not one scenario has ever had Jason Tatum name attached to it.

And you know what? And I'm curious. I wonder who people think is a better player out of the two now based on what Jalen Brown is able to do. They still believe it's Jason Tatum. See, there's nothing

Jalen Brown could do to change that. Nothing. Even after he averaged 28.7, even after he got you the number two seed after you sold off all the pieces that you had, you let Holiday go, you let Al Horford go, you moved on from Christop Prazingas.

There's nothing, nothing else Jalen Brown can do to convince them that he's the number one option and he's the equivalent of Jason Tatum. Absolutely nothing. That's crazy. And if you know,

you hear him speaking out a little more, he knows he sees the writing on the raw. Oh, yeah, absolutely. He knows this all along where this was coming from. He tried to play it off. Hey, look, I ain't got no problem. I don't know their relationship. Don't particularly care.

I'm here to win games. I ain't here to be nobody's friend. If I have, if I, if I, if I, if I, if I, if I develop friends in the process of winning, I'm good with that, Ocho. But if I don't, the hell with you. Yeah. And you know what the thing is, is they've already won, they ring. They've already gotten their trophy. So that, that's set in stone.

Now, if, if, if, if, if, if, if, if, if, if, if, if, if, I think they should run it back. I, I, I, I, I, I don't see him actually being traded. I don't know. Basketball is weird. The way they conduct themselves, especially owners, especially management, the players got F-U money.

When they want to leave, it's time to go. Jalen Brown said on his tweet stream today as a Celtics are active in trade negotiation for Yanis to all the people that doubted me that wanted me to do this or wanted me traded, you're turning me into a monster. A Yahoo writer reported or tweeted, Damien Peters,

It might be an unpopular opinion, but I think the Celtics will regret trading Jalen Brown. He's not better than Yonis, but he's more doable at this stage of their careers. He's coming off his best individual season of his career, and he's already won a ring alongside Tatum. Breaking up a championship duo in this fashion is a huge, huge gamble. And it absolutely is. Because if you don't win a championship, I don't care the numbers he put up. If you don't win a championship, people are going to say you you effed it up.

Yeah. I don't think he's moving. I don't think he's moving. I'm not sure what issues, if there are any issues between J.B. and J.T. But moving those two, you know, it just doesn't make any sense. And Yonis,

a completely different type of player. I'm not sure if it affects, you know, Jason Tatum in any kind of way with the style of play with, you know, with Yonis always having to have the ball in his hands. I'm not sure of a, affects things there and the way they play, but it just wouldn't make any sense.

My concern, though, Ocho, is that how you built your team. You built your team to launch threes. You look at the same thing. That's what they do. They launch threes. Yeah. Would they change that for one person? Yonis going to have to get his touches.

Yonis is not a three-point shooter. Yonis is a downhill guy. Yeah. They're going to need a point guard. I like person. Peyton Pritchett, but I mean, you're saying, you're telling me Peyton Pritchie can be your every, your starting point guard and give you, play you 35 minutes a night?

Or is he better in a role? Right. We're about to find out. Are you going to be able to keep white two guys that I know can play together? Because guess what? I've seen him play together for the last seven, eight years. Versus bringing the guy in. Yes, he's phenomenal.

30 and 14. Damn. That's his average? The last four or five years, that's what Yonis has averaged. Shoot 55, 56% from the floor. The problem is every year he's getting dinged. 30 and 14, man. 30 and 14, you can have an injury or two, man.

Go ahead. Because I know what I get when you're healthy. And, hey, hold on, you say you're only downhill, too. He got a nice little MIDI too now. I didn't see him, you know, he didn't work on that little midi. It ain't consisted, don't Joe. You don't like it? No.

It's not consistent. I can't wait to your honest get here, man. Like I said, I told you. And you see, Boston knows how to defend it. They build a wall. They just keep them out of the paint. Paint, yeah. I live with them making three.

You're going to make three. I don't believe you can make enough threes to beat me. I don't believe you can make enough middies to beat me. Right. To be, yeah. I'm just not going to let your ass get to the rim. But, and I'm sure, J.B. We'll probably never admit it.

But he'd get tired of hearing it, Locho. You think so? I'm getting tired of here. All you talk about it. All I do is play. Oh. All I do is play. I helped you win a championship.

I'm finals MVP. Eastern Conference, I'm Eastern Conference MVP. And all you do in every scenario when you feel you can improve the team, I'm the guy that you're going to get rid of and to improve the team. I mean, JT's the Golden Goose song. He is. Nothing you can do. Even the funny thing about it is,

your name is in rumors and JT's coming off in Achilles tear. Yeah. Even what you did last season. So that just, I mean, what are you talking about? Yonis hadn't been hurt in four years?

Did Yon has missed time this year? What did I miss? Give me the last four years of Yonis history. He was hurt this year, remember? Yeah, yeah, I know. But maybe, maybe my, maybe, my IG, maybe my TV was messing up. because sometimes my cave will go out.

So Yonazan had been hurt in the last four years. He played 36 games this year. What about the year before? He played 67, so he missed 15. What about the next year? 73, he plays a miss 9. 63. So he missed 19, 9, 15, and 42.

46, excuse me, 46. Hmm. Okay. Now, how old is Yonis now? He's got to be like, he's 13 years, so he's got to be at least 31, 32. Okay, 31, willing to be 32. Okay, so he's 31. So he missed 19 games at 27.

Uh-huh. He missed nine games at 28. He missed 15 games at 29, and he missed 46 games at 30. He never keep going higher and higher, huh? You know, you get, he's going to get him because he plays so damn hard. Yeah. He plays extremely, extremely hard.

You're not going to complain about his effort. Oh, no. Some guy's like, well, damn, son, I wish you play hard. You're never going to complain about Janus's effort. Right. But for me, just looking at J.T's game, looking at Yonis' game, J.T. and J.B. fit better together.

together to me. Now, they could prove me wrong. No, I don't think they're going to prove you wrong. I think, I think you said it right. I mean, you said it right. That's why he's going to be here. He's going to be better suited down here in Miami. It just doesn't make any sense. For a team that you just said, it's constructed

to do what? Jack up threes. Yet, but when you've done that, how do you, how do you, Ocho, how do you like recalibrate and says, you know what, we're not going to jack up 40, 45 threes a night. We're going to take that down to

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Oh, Joe, we got breaking news. Minnesota is sending Julius Randle and the number 28 picks in the NBA draft

in a three-team trade that sends Nick Clackster to Chicago. The Timberwolves will acquire Brooklyn's number 33 pick for Randall and number 28. The T-Woolves now have flexibility to sign Ayo de Samu and have an available $15 million non-tax mid-level and a $5.5.5 million by annual exception. Minnesota will also create a $33.3 million trade exception. So in other words, Ocho, they gave me. this man away. Yeah. They gave,

they, they, they were so, listen, Chad, do y'all realize what they did? Julius Rammell

is a former All-Star. Yes. They'd say, you know what? Here, we get y'all Julius Rammah.

What y'all got? Y'all got some pre-wrap tape. Gatorade. You remember the Gatorade? Ocho used to pay it in the bag, used to pour in the bag

and pour the water in the stir. Yeah, yeah, and make the powder and mix it up. Yeah. Hey, Un, I got a question. Yes.

He wasn't that bad. he wasn't that bad to just let him go like that. He wasn't good when they needed him to be good. And far too many times, that's what, because at the end of the day, Ocho, yes, you make a King's Ransom in the regular season, but in the postseason, they needed him to show up. They needed somebody, and guess what,

McDaniels had passed him as being the second best player. That's not an option. Right. So he made it easy for him to make that decision, huh? Hey, but yes And that's messed up, boy Man, they literally gave this man away Hold on me, seven

The Timber Woods would acquire Brooker's number 33 pick For Randall and 28 So, hold on, they say We'll take number 33, we'll get y'all Julius Radma and our 28 pick Damn Now watch he go, he went to the Bulls, huh?

No, he went to the Nets. Nick Claxton goes to the Bulls. Oh, to the Bulls? Bulls, okay. Yes. Let me see. So we over there with the Nets? Who over there in Brooklyn?

Nobody. Michael Porter, Jr. is the only one that I really, that I know of. I don't really know anybody else on the Nets. Chad? I mean. That's not even fair. So he didn't win somewhere where they're not, he's not even on the contender anymore.

That's what they tell of him. Remember, they thought he was the peace to a contender. Remember when the Nigs got him? Remember when the T. Wolves got him? Yeah. He is supposed to be a missing piece. to a contender. When they trade you to the Nats,

and I don't mean in no disrespect, but it's like, okay, now I'm just collecting a check and playing ball. I want to compete for a ring. I want to compete for a championship, too. Yeah, you had that opportunities. You had the opportunities. You were at the NICS,

and then they moved you, they thought, I mean, and the mere fact that Minnesota thought they would get better by trading Kat versus for Jew Randle. Hey, that's tough. Hey, systems matter, like you say all the time. Great players overcome system.

Kobe's going to be Kobe in any system. LeBron will be, join to be joining the great players or be great in any system. Right. The great players can overcome a system. A great player is the system. Instead of being that bull in the china shop more times than offer, he's jacking up threes.

he needed to be the second best player night in and night out he needed to be the second best player and we saw we saw right before our eyes mac daniels pass him we saw it disamu passed it looked better consistently than julius randum yeah shannon came off the bench it looked better than Randall. I can't pay you that kind of money, Ocho, and have guys coming off the bench are playing better than you. I can't.

Especially in those big moments, especially in those big games, especially in the playoffs. They gave this man away. At least when he was on the Knicks, they went to the playoffs, and then you go to Minnesota, like, okay, look at it.

I'm going to join, I'm going to join Ant Man. I'm going to join Rudy Gobert. You know, hey, we got like the squad. We'll continue. You go to the next Oh Joe, you're not going nowhere. You can't even, you can't, hey, you can't, when your family

asked you off camera. Man, how are y'all looking? You can't even lie. You can't lie. Hey, get your money. How many years he got still on the contract? You got one year left or two. Oh, he picking that up.

He got two years. What's his player option? Yeah, he picking that up. Where how much is it? 35.8. What if he don't, pick it up. What happens? He becomes a free agent and then he hopes somebody gives

somebody gives them a long-term deal for more than what he, for more than that one year. So you think it's a possibility someone take a chance on him? Anything possible. It's hard for you it's hard for me to read the NBA what they do. Let's talk about it. According to Shams, Trey Young

intend to sign a four year $212 million deal to stay with the Washington Wizards with the player option in year four. Remember he turned down the 49 million player option for the 26-27 season, betting on himself to secure a longer-term deal. And today, Ocho, that paid off. According to Jake Fisher, Anthony Davis, and his camp has been seeking a max extension

and plausible to consider him a potential trade candidate out of Washington. You ask, man, why would trade decline a $50 million deal? So I can get a four-year deal for $2.12. Yeah. I just asked that yesterday, too. That's crazy. That's crazy. And it came to fruition.

Now, what about Anthony Davis? Now, how is he asking or requesting anything long term with his history and always being heard? Guess what? Because they don't make very many 16 guys that can give you 20 and 12 and three blocks a game. Shoot 50% can anchor your defense. Right. I think they should put something in the contract, though. Players, players, I'll never let you do it.

Hey, we'll give you max dollars, right? and the only way you earn the max dollars that we put in the contract is that you stay healthy and play a certain amount of games each season. Player association, they're going to go for that. Now, you see kind of some of the situation that they put in Zion contract, body fat, got to be a certain level, got to be under a certain weight, things like that. Now, you want this deal? You ain't got to sign it.

But who's going to run the risk? Yeah, I put that in there. Somebody going to give you $150 million, and they said, well, Ocho, we need you. on time, well, you're going to sign that deal. Yeah. And then you take, you know what? Hey, I'm going to take the, I take a late for you a couple of times, but I'm going to get this money.

You're not going to be so bullheaded like, man, I ain't signing that. That's a bad deal. Ain't nobody else got to sign that. So that, and from what they're talking about, Anthony Davis, going to probably get it and become a trade candidate. Yeah. I mean, he should get it. Now, he, well, he, that boy.

Now, I even, even I understand that when he's playing. me on the court. I understand how good he is on both ends of the court. But I mean, my goodness, chat. I mean, you know, am I wrong? If I was heard all the time who they, I heard the nickname Street Clothes, who they call Street Clothes?

Huh? Yeah. You know, so I mean, listen, I'm just saying maybe you know, the NBA team can protect themselves a little bit, you know, throw a little language in there like, listen, man, if you can't give us this amount of games, you know, we're going to take a little

a little piece of that pie. All they have is an insurance policy like a lords of London. If somebody accepts a career ending injury because that money is guaranteed, they get their money back. That's basically what they have, Ocho. Yeah. But like you said, because of his, because they know he's 20 plus points, double-digit rebounds, he shoots a high percentage,

he's got a mid-range, he got post the ball, he can shoot the three. Sometimes I think he falls in love with three a little bit too much. He can anchor your defense. Oh, he's phenomenal. He's nice. When he plays. He nice. When he plays.

But Trey, you know, it's going to be very interesting because now you hear more, all of a sudden, Peterson has jumped back into the mix. Everybody, he has so much upside, so much upside, that you're willing to take the risk on some of the things that we saw in college. Right. Now with Trey back. But I think the most part, most guys with the exception, with the exception of Camboozer, both guys need the ball.

DeBonza had the ball. Peterson might have the ball in his hands as much as the Bonza. Right. Obviously, you know trade needs the ball. Mm-hmm. So it's going to be interesting to see how they do this. Washington has the number one pick, huh? Washington has the number one pick, Utah has the number two pick.

And that would probably be why, based on what they were able to do in college, if the bonds had always had the ball in his hands, I mean, I would think his better destination would be Utah, where he could be on a team, we could have the ball in his hands. If Peters has already showed you, I could, listen, I could play off the ball, I could play without the ball. All things being equal. Everybody wants to be the first pick.

Now, being the first pick doesn't land me in my ideal spot. Right. Maybe it's a situation. or Chris Weber went number one overall and they ended up trading him for Penny Hardaway. Guys like, look, you can trade me wherever. I just want that attached out of the number one overall draft pick. Trade me wherever.

Right. But just give me that. Let me have that. And I think, I think, AJ DeBonzo would love to be the number one overall draft pick and then they make a trade, them in Washington work out something. But I just think, how tall is Peterson? because that is a really small back court with him and Trey Young in it.

That's all he is, huh? Six four. Six four, but you know, Trey's six foot. Yeah. We're being nice. And, uh, look, what happened? Well, he's going, I mean,

I mean, now I ain't going by Wikipedia because you set your own Wikipedia numbers. What did they measure you make the NBA Combine? Okay, six four to half. That's what he is. Oh, you're six four. Yeah, yeah, yeah.

Yes, because they measure you in your socks, I guess. So he's six, four and a half. Because you know, at the NFL combat, they make you put your heels together and lift your toes. Because they don't want you to get no arts. Now, they say, you know what, he's probably six, five, because he's going to have on sneakers. So we're going to go and get him that half inch, so he's six.

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Fake news, you don't want to demand a spot. You want to earn a spot. Ron also reposted us. Joe Johnson says Dylan Harper has the opportunity to be a prime James Hardin potential. He would average 22, 23 points a game his rookie season if he had the same freedom. Did James play defense? No, not like Harper. bro.

But, oh, Harper should hope that when his son career is over, he's a top 75 player. Yeah. We weren't trying to be dismissive. You was praising him. You see something in this kid

that he can say, you know what? He has the ability to be offensively what James Hardin was. Yeah. We were praising him. We weren't,

we didn't shoot him down. We didn't say, oh, we said he should be in the starting lineup. Yeah, yeah, yeah. But see, when you just listen to clips and not listen to the meat of what you and I was discussing, and old joke, this is what you get.

Yeah, it's part. Nobody was trying to shoot your son down. We was praying to your son. We said he was the second best on some nights, the best player on the Spurs. Yeah, I guess you to hear that part. Go ahead, Joe. He probably, he probably didn't.

And the fact that Joe even think he can be somewhat similar to, James Harden if he had the green light to shoot when he want to, and he can play defense the way he does, come on now. You can't ask for nothing better than that. Hey, hey, look, despite what his pop say that, his son, he's special. He's special, bro. We were trying to, we were trying to, we thought we did a good job of conveying. You did, having played the game,

having looked at James Hardin game, they're both lefties. Yeah. Harper already has an NBA body. Hardin had to grow. to his body. Look at Harden as a rookie and look at Hardin now. Look at Dylan Harper. That is a grown man's body. Yeah. You're saying giving the same

opportunities to have a green light, which is going to be highly unlikely because he's playing with Wemby. Yeah. But that situation, we're saying he, Joe was saying he has the ability to be as specialist Hardin for you to say that. Knowing what Hardin is, he didn't mind that play no defense. He's one of the great offensive

guys in the history of the NBA. Yes, sir. He's an MVP. He's led to league in scoring. He's led to league in assists. He's a top 75 player. Yeah. And he made it seem like we say he should be a role player.

We're saying that he should start. Yeah. Hey, sky's a limit for their young kid, bro. You know, he just got to keep putting the work in. And he'll look bigger than James Harden, Ocho. Yes. Yeah, like, you, you, if you watch him, The way he maneuvers around the court and when he does get in the paint,

bruh, it's like he big, he damn, he doesn't play through contact. That's not a hard. Hardin is slippery. Hardin is trying to get on edges. No, he's trying to play through you. Yeah. He can get on the edge. There you go.

But you look at him, he's trying to dunk on folks. Oh, yeah. Oh, yeah. He ain't playing. He ain't playing. But he got that, he got that same bag that I think James Hardin has. And maybe it is because they both left him. He's got nice, smooth jump shots.

His potential is through the roof, bro. But I'm just trying to figure out, so because we say he could be James Harden, we're talking about, and you're talking about that James Hardin play defense? No, but he's 11, 12-time NBA All-Star. He's an all-N-B-A player. He's a top 75 player in the history of the game.

Yeah. Listen, James Hardin is not a defensive guy, but don't demean the guy now. I agree. He's a top top 75. He's a top five two guards. All the two guards. He's a top five.

Now, I don't think anybody's going to put him over Kobe and Jordan. Now, there's been some debate about him and D. Wade. He personally, I like D. Wade, but, hey, to each his own, some people go like, James Harden, offensive game is so great. I can't have him no lower than third. Okay, fine. But, man, y'all got to stop this notion, man. y'all make it seem like every player in the league

played lockdown defense like colby and jordan they didn't it's a small as a select few especially than today's game it is bro it is it ain't but a couple guys who are willing to do that dirty work because everybody wants to you know they want to shoot the threes they want they want to score to 25 30 points a night don't know it ain't a lot of cats want to do that damn dirty work how many guys in the history of the game

has been first team all NBA NBA and all NBA defense. How many guys in the same season? It ain't many, boy. It's a few. Marijuana, Robinson, Duncan, Kobe, Braun, Jordan. How many?

How many first team, all NBA players and all defensive players on the first team in the same season, Yonis, Kauai. Yeah. I bet you they've been less than 15. Oh, yeah.

Because I bet Scotty Pippen, I just don't think offensively he probably was first team, but defensively, you know, he always made the... Probably, probably. I think he made it maybe twice. I know the year that Jordan retired. Remember the first year you were going to retire? Yeah, yeah, yeah.

And he almost got him there. Yeah. Yeah. But it's hard. When he played, you got, you got Barclay, you got Marlone. I mean, they battling it out damn there every year. And then you get KG, you get dirt.

Yeah, yeah. So it wasn't, it wasn't no easy, it wasn't no easy fix. And there's only five spots on both. Yeah. Right. So there's not a whole lot of guys that can say, you know what? I locked it down on both ends on a nightly basis, offense and defense. But, so.

Look, I ain't got no problem. I believe every man should praise his son. But I believe you can praise your son. James Hardin ain't, ain't no, you can say he didn't play no defense, but he's one of the greatest offensive players we've ever seen. Hey, hey. O'Run Harper here, anytime somebody says something about this, son, he comes at him, man. But even when somebody tried to praise his son, he still tried to come out of him.

Yeah, yeah. You know, it's so funny, man, all this time, man, I ain't even know that was the Harper's son. You didn't? Nah, because we never talked about it. We just talked about them Harper. We never talked about, you know, it being Ron Hopper's son. We never say nothing like that. As soon as you see it wrong Harper, I put to it.

Oh, offensively. He's a good defensive player. Now, a, a, a, a, Brunson average 33. Yeah. Bruxen average 33 You got 45 in the close I game Ain't very many people

That had 40 plus points In the close out game I don't know Joe And close our game Jordan John has got 50 When he closed out Phoenix Jordan got 45

When he closed out Utah And Brunson got 45 When he closed out the Spurs Yeah Sometimes Ron Just take the compliment bro Nobody trying to demean your son Joe actually has a

Matter of fact, thought so much of your son's game that he said he had a chance to be hardened if given the opportunity. That's praise. That is praise. We talked about it. We believe like, man, this man needs to be in the starting lineup or at least playing more minutes than what they're giving him. Okay, you give him 25, 27 minutes. You got to bump that up to 30, 35. The last game, he played 31 minutes.

That should have been 36, 37. And guess what? Guess what Uncle O's. We're talking about a damn rookie. That's 20 years. Yes. That's what you think of him, Joe. You haven't played the game as long as you played,

played at the level of what you played. You think that much of that man's game, seeing him as a rookie, that you say, you know what? I think given an opportunity, he could be, he could be, he can have a game similar to James Hardin. No question. No question.

I just hold to see him in the start lineup. I don't care. I don't care of. earned, he'd have earned him. I mean, if this ain't earned, if his play this year as a rookie and what he's done in the playoff didn't earn him the right to start,

well, I don't know what he can do. He neither. He'll be, hey, I'm telling y'all, they're going to find a way. Him and Fox. They're going to be in the damn back court together. So what we're going to do with Castle? He's going to be Fox,

Castle, and Harper. And Harper. So they're going to have a three, guard line up. Yeah, yeah, they're going to get out there because, see, Castle and Harper, they play a lot bigger than their size. You know what I'm saying? They play like they about six, nine hell.

Them boys, they, the boy play big. You're going to, and then you'll probably keep the way Champini shot the ball here. You got to, you always want a guy like that. But I like Vassel, too. I do, too. No, you got a good problem on your hand. It's going to be, it's, I don't know about a good problem because, hey, there's going to so many shots to go around, Joe.

Man, when I say good problem, think about some of the teams here who come to every season, thinking, oh man, we just want to be better this year and getting their eyes beat out every damn night. Man, please. Hey, you can kind of pick and chew what you want to do if you're saying, Antonio, you know, to stay on the right trajectory, you got a bunch of young guys, your oldest guy in the starting lineup here was 25, and that's who for sale? Yeah. Man, please.

But it's going to be, it's going to be very interesting to see how they put this thing together. I think they're hungry. I think they got a sour taste in their mouth. They're like, bro, we led every single game by double digits. And we lost all these games except one. I'm talking to my big leads, too. Yeah, double 29 points, 16 points, 13 points. And I think the thing is the inexperience really hurt them.

Yeah. Because they didn't have somebody to calm them down. I don't think their coach did them any favors. We can say, I think two things can be true. I think the inexperience hurt them, not having someone to calm them down. and I don't think the coach, I don't think, I think Mike Brown out coached Ms. Johnson. Oh, yeah.

That's not, that's not because here's the guy that's only, only been coaching basically a year and a half, if that. Took over from pop. Yeah, you, hey, Joe, you can't blame coach. You can't blame Mr. Johnson for that. A little bit. The extension of the coach, is on the court.

It was a veteran in Fox. He's supposed to dictate play. I agree. When to speed it up, when to slow it down, calm down. They constantly making mistakes. Back and forth. They're wondering why.

Don't let them go on a 20 to four run before you call a time out. See, stuff like that. Yeah, I mean, yeah, we can't blame the code. We got to blame them people. No, no, no. Hey, but hey, what about the substitutions? About about the rotations?

Yeah, you got, hey, hey, who's running the rotations? Yeah, yeah. Who keeps put Luke Cornett in and every time you're in a negative? Yeah, I, I, I, do you see what you call him there? He brought Landry Shammin in. Instead of Miles McBride being the first off the bench, Landry Shammit was the first off the bitch. Yeah, yeah.

You see, when Kat got in trouble, hey, Mitchell Robinson got found trouble, he brought another guy in, and then he brought another big in. See, it's the game within the game. Yeah, I understand that, look, the guy, once you get on the court, but you got to be able to like, you know what, hey, I don't see it enough. Hey, this thing about to get a head.

Hey, let me go kick it. Hey, ain't nothing run. Let me take a time out. Time out. Yeah, yeah. You got, hey, look. Also, those threes that was falling in the first half, guys, they're not falling now.

Let's slack off of taking those threes. They're young teams. Sometimes you have to coach, you, Mocho. Put the ball on the floor, get to the, hey, bro, you're shooting threes when normally we get to the bonus and six minutes to go in a quarter. Yeah.

And we're taking threes with 18, 19 seconds on the shot clock? For what? We're up 29. We're not down 29? Yeah. Trying to extend it. Hey, I remember playing, boy, when Pop was coaching, okay, Ocho, you go on a four-old run.

His head calling timeout. He's going to burn out his damn time. He ain't. Hey, for, Ojo. That man calling time out, Ocho. You go on a six-o run to start the game. Papa call the time out. Yeah, yeah.

And take his whole five out. That man on me playing, bro. So I just think when it comes to coaching, you do have to make adjustments. You look at Mike Brown. He was throwing shit at the wall, hoping it stick. He ain't know what.

He played Alvarado and Brow. Brunson together. Hell, he hadn't done that. He had done that. They put Alvarado in there, Ocho, from the 29-point lead. Alvarado played major, major minutes. Yeah.

That's coaching. Yeah. And that's that, hold on, Alvarado with that firecracker. He understands the value that Avarado brings once he gets on that court, Joe. But he's all over the place like the Tashmanian. The thing is, Ocho.

He had never played him with Brunson because they make to have them so small in the back court. But, hell, that came to be their best lineup. out. A. Prime example. Look at what Steve Kerr did. He bids Andrew Bogot

and inserted Andre I Godala. Yeah. His starting center. Make him fast. One of my championship. And it's small ball. And guess what? Everybody tried to be small.

Everybody tried to have a death lineup. Yep. Mm-hmm. So he made some rookie mistakes as a coach, too. He absolutely did. It's that time to put on your jersey and wave your flag, whoever you root for. Why do I watch the World Cup?

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