Nightcap - Best of NBA Offseason MOVES Part 2: JA MORANT & Damian Lillard on SAME TEAM, Giannis BLOCKBUSTER trade to Heat, Wemby takes a PAY CUT?!

Episode Date: July 21, 2026

Shannon Sharpe, Chad "Ochocinco" Johnson, and Joe "King Iso" Johnson react to some of the wildest NBA trade scenarios imaginable on Nightcap! The crew react to Ja Morant landing with the Portland Trai...l Blazers, and Giannis Antetokounmpo being traded to the Miami Heat. Plus, they discuss Victor Wembanyama reportedly taking a pay cut during the offseason and break down which blockbuster moves could actually reshape the NBA. Subscribe to Nightcap presented by PrizePicks so you don’t miss out on any new drops! Download the PrizePicks app today and use code SHANNON to get $50 in lineups after you play your first $5 lineup! Visit https://prizepicks.onelink.me/LME0/NI... 0:00 - Ja Morant traded to Blazers 25:02 - Giannis traded to Heat  43:19- Wemby takes offseason pay cut (Timestamps may vary based on advertisements.) #ClubSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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Starting point is 00:03:06 Team, fresh off of his first playoff appearance since 2021, headlined by Denny. Yeah, him. Abia. Joe, you like that. Do my mic out? No, I hear you.
Starting point is 00:03:25 Okay. Do you like John going to Portland? Yeah, I mean, I guess, oh, Joe. You know, for me, when you think about it, no team carries four point guards.
Starting point is 00:03:38 So you got Morant, Dame, Holiday, and school. I thought School Henderson showed a lot of growth and maturity in his game throughout the postseason, especially in that series against the Spurs. I know they only won one game, but hell, he played a pivotal role in winning that game too in San Antonio. Them first two games, he looked like you might have had something as in Portland. And then after that, he was kind of, you know, non-existent. but I thought he showed flashes that, you know,
Starting point is 00:04:09 you'll still continue to take chances on the young man because I think he got potential to be pretty damn good, honestly. But with bringing Jai over there, you've got to be thinking that you're going to get rid of one of these guys at least. Because I'm saying one, you're probably going to carry three because, hey, two going to start. And can scoot play the point? Yeah, we need some insurance.
Starting point is 00:04:34 Holidays of your defender. We need some insurance. We need some insurance. Uncle Ocho, meaning maybe Scoop come off the bench, School Henderson come off the bench, maybe you deal a holiday because he probably has value and can go play for a championship contender team. You know, but man, the biggest thing is
Starting point is 00:04:52 Jock going to have to learn how to play without their ball, Uncle Ocho. You got to. You think so? You're going to be because... I mean, but Dame, man, don't have no problem playing with the ball. I understand that. Dame, no, he's, he can do it.
Starting point is 00:05:07 Dame is a great catching shoot guy. He can play off the ball. Yeah. But I think they're going to take turns. But, hell, it's going to be a lot of times. I want to see Jai hit that lane and go catch a lot. Yeah, like, hey, hey, hey. I think he can play off the ball as well, meaning being cerebral as far as cutting to the basket.
Starting point is 00:05:23 With his elite athleticism, bro, he just can't be a statue when Dame over there running, pick and roll or something. You know, you got to be able to mix it up a little bit. You know, be able to cut in there, get you some layups, get you some floaters, catch a couple lives, got to get that three-bob percentage up. You know, we can say we won't, but shooting 20-something percent from the damn three, nine days as a point guard. Ain't going to cut it. You know, you got to get in the lab.
Starting point is 00:05:47 I'm talking about she'll be in there right now tonight. Yeah, yeah. Yeah, you know, like yesterday, like last year. Yeah. Hey, Uncle Joe, I'm happy. I'm happy he's gone. Obviously, you know, my, my, I was one of them, you know, down here in Miami. I think as far as leaving Memphis and having a reset, a mental reset,
Starting point is 00:06:09 and having a change of scenery, obviously I don't think Miami would have been the right place for Jha. Even with the infrastructure that the heat have, as far as, you know, discipline and being able to watch over their players and those inside that organization always knowing where their players are at all times, I think Portland is a good place. It's a good place. It's not too fast. It's a good city.
Starting point is 00:06:31 And for him to have a restart. It ain't fast at all. Yeah. for him to have a restart on this career, I think he's in a good place and he's around some good people. Obviously, Dane being in the game for a very long time, he's someone he can take up on his wing and, you know, show, you know, his whole young bull to ropes
Starting point is 00:06:47 on how to conduct himself with this fresh start that he's having. So, I mean, I'm excited for a job. I'm excited to see, you know, what he does. He put up a post on his Instagrams about, you know, those that have counted him out, you know, so I'm curious to see, I'm curious to see the bounce back. Me too. Yeah, hopefully he gets it.
Starting point is 00:07:08 Look, if you were around me and I got in trouble, you can't go to Portland. Hello. Hello. I'm going to keep it in real with Jocho. Mm-hmm. At any point in time. Yeah. You damn sure ain't going with me.
Starting point is 00:07:24 You're the one that had the damn IG Live on when I had to stick out. You definitely can't go. I remember that. You know what's hard, though, Uncle? No, no. Joe, I know what you're going to say. It's very hard to let certain people in your entourage go. Because the first thing they start saying is, oh, you change.
Starting point is 00:07:43 Oh, you ain't the same. I did. You're supposed to. Hey, hold up. What we just talked about yesterday. Assets and liabilities, bro. Come on, Joe. Come on, man.
Starting point is 00:07:53 Come on. Hey, hey, hey, hey. You got to understand, Uncle, Ocho. The band are missed out. He already a missed out on there under $200-something million. You know what I'm saying? you think I'm going to let No, boy, I probably go to Portland by myself
Starting point is 00:08:06 Hey, hey, Ocho Yeah, now you just left Memphis You go into Portland You mess right around Guess where your next stop be Sump to South Carolina where you're from Yeah Too to a too much of the time
Starting point is 00:08:22 You gotta realize these teams don't need you Yeah There are billion dollars entities Yeah They are a billion dollar entity With five guys off the street Hey, but look, I tell y'all one thing I'm happy for him
Starting point is 00:08:36 That black and red gonna look nice on him Them black and red Jaws gonna look good He's still gonna have Top three You know, five shoe out Look man And you get a whole other chance bro You gotta lock in to win
Starting point is 00:08:51 You gotta lock in get to it You gotta show them boy what they're missing man Hey hey we've been missing Hey look he ain't gotta shoot the gun Throw the grenades and all that But I want I like to see him active I like to see him going, you know what I mean?
Starting point is 00:09:04 Yeah. All right, T, you too? Yeah, Pops. You got to get right, baby. Okay, T, you two? Got to get right. Got to get him right. Hey.
Starting point is 00:09:18 Hey, you know what? The NBA, basketball needs jaw. They don't need him, but basketball still need job. He great. That job that's having fun, that job that's playing above the rim. You know, that job that job that's entertaining and polarizing, that job that's putting no butts in the seats,
Starting point is 00:09:36 giving people a reason to come watch watch games. We need that job back. And when you look at it, and he can be that but he needs to be that, he needs to be off the court so that carries on the court.
Starting point is 00:09:52 Court, yeah. Because his life, his world got chaotic off the court. Yeah. And he couldn't do two things at once. And it affected his play on the court. Ain't nobody looking at Jodd the last three years, even though he only played 79 games
Starting point is 00:10:07 and say that's the job they remember from four or five years ago. Right. Let's be all the way real. Ain't nobody having that discussion. That's why I was, think about what he went for. At one point in time,
Starting point is 00:10:19 people thought, talking my job like he was a top 10 player. Yeah, yeah. Absolutely. Yeah. Hey, he was a guy, man. He took those challenges playing against Kai Rhee and Dame.
Starting point is 00:10:31 you know, playing against some of the top point guards back then. Steph Curry, you know, he always held his own. You know, I mean, but I think we all seen this coming because they got rid of all of veteran help, bro. You know, all the guys. Oh, you know. When they traded Desmond Bain and they traded Triple J, you know he was next. Yeah, and Brooks, he traded, I mean, you trade your dogs, bro.
Starting point is 00:10:53 Then let Brooks walk, and Brooks says, I'm happy to walk because y'all told me I was the fourth best option. I can never show, yeah, I like, I can play defense. But, hey, don't get upset when I shoot the ball one time and everybody else done shot at 15 times, and y'all look at you, y'all side-eyed knee. Right. But y'all got me guarding KD.
Starting point is 00:11:11 Y'all got me guarding Jason Tatum. Y'all got me guarding LeBron. Y'all got me chasing Steph damn Curry. But when I take one shot, y'all look at all crazy. Yeah. So it was a no-brainer for him to leave to go to Houston, somebody that valued a defensive player. But now he's looking at everybody else.
Starting point is 00:11:28 They're like, hold on. He shoot 25 times. He shoot 20 times I shoot 5 times y'all looking at me like I'm crazy Amen I just want to see I want to see the young man
Starting point is 00:11:39 Have a different body language Don't lie Okay, Ocho You know you can tell When a guy out there Really enjoying himself Having fun He loving the game
Starting point is 00:11:47 You know Maybe he is going through Something that's off the court But here Once you get on the court Bro all that's supposed to You know what I mean Like you're supposed to be able
Starting point is 00:11:55 To be able to lock in To where you just You block out all that For the next two hours And you tap You know what I mean? So I just want to see him get back to having fun, man, because you're right, Ocho.
Starting point is 00:12:06 He is great for the game. The game needs him. And listen, you get a chance to play with another elite guard, him and Dame. Yeah, they may be a little small back there, but, man, you got to switch your game up now because, yep, you're going to get to handle the rock, you're going to get to run, pick and roll. You're going to be able to play, mate.
Starting point is 00:12:21 But at the same time, you've got to be able to play off the ball. And defensively, because of that long, wire reframed that he has, I think he can be a solid defender, bro. He just has the want to. You know what I mean? Like, he got to be able to affect the game more than just, like, giving you points.
Starting point is 00:12:38 Do you feel me? Like, he's one of them guys who's probably going to have to change his game a little bit. Yeah, oh, Joe, Joe, defense is all about want to. I see when they put a lot on the guy's plate. When you ask a guy to do a ton, it's hard for him to exert that kind of effort
Starting point is 00:12:55 offensively and defensive. Run the offense, go give us 25 points a night, rebound and facilitate. You're asking a guy to do a, that's why you have other guys. You see Shay? They say, Shay, we need you to score. Hey, you give us five, six rebounds, we'll take it. You give us four, five, three, four, five assists.
Starting point is 00:13:15 We'll take that too. But I tell you what, Lou Dort, Chet, Wallace, Caruso, Joe. Y'all better defend that at a new knee level. Yeah. you understand you got roles every what business if you go look at any business they got a CEO they got a president a VP or CFO you got a company you got manager
Starting point is 00:13:39 you got a regional manager you got a branch manager you got cashiers you got guards you got everybody got a role the problem that you run into when somebody is a branch manager thinking he's a regional manager and they're thinking he's the CFO or the C.O. The VP, the president. Whoa, whoa, no, no, no.
Starting point is 00:14:00 We hired you. We got those spots to feel, Joe. Those spots are feel. But this is, this is, he gets a new lease on life. Hey, that's behind him. Move on. They didn't, I don't believe they wanted, they, I don't believe they wanted to get rid of John.
Starting point is 00:14:22 But he became more problems they were worth it. had he been healthy giving you 30 a night, Joe? Yeah. Okay. We can put up with a little. Uh-huh. Oh,
Starting point is 00:14:36 what is it? Production is what? When production is here, tolerance is up here. Production can't be here and tolerance up here. That ain't going to work. I don't give them who you are.
Starting point is 00:14:48 Yep. Oh, yeah. You're going to be good. The production didn't match the tolerance that he was asking from him. And we understand that. It's not, it's not no, they didn't dislike jaw and everything. They're just like, bro, it's always something with you.
Starting point is 00:15:06 First of all, you're doing this crazy stuff off the court and you hurt. You hear the stories about James Hardin. Man, James Hart, hey, Vegas, he's parked. James Harding is your 35 a night. James Harding getting your 50-point triple doubles. You see the difference? Yeah. L.T.
Starting point is 00:15:32 Hey he was crazy. Well, you go out there and win three defense players in the year and you win a MVP as a defensive player. Yeah. Yeah, you can sleep in the meetings. Hey, you were crazy.
Starting point is 00:15:43 Yeah, you could, hey, man, giant stadium, look, lit up. Oh, damn, we got a game. Let me tell you all the story. How he, he running, hey, he running late for the plane. He pulled up the valet, flip the guy the keys of a, pick me up Sunday night in such and such a tire.
Starting point is 00:16:06 L.T. got some stories fun for you, man. Hey, a Bill, a Bill got the best stories on L.T. Man. Yes. Because Bill was the D.C. Ocho, you're right.
Starting point is 00:16:19 Go ahead. Oh, man. As he told some of those stories, man, just, you know, in private settings. I don't know if it was in public settings, but L.T. was a wilder, Joe. Oh, man. Hey, you go to the hall and you get L.T.
Starting point is 00:16:35 Because he normally, him and Ricky Jack. him and Ricky Jacks are really, really cool. And man, they get to tell the stories. Oh, man. I'm like, Lord, have mercy, L.T. Because as a matter of fact, Ricky Jack and L.T. came out the same year. All them came out in the same,
Starting point is 00:16:54 in 81 draft. LT, Singletary, Ronnie Lott, Dennis Smith, Ken Easley. All of them came out in the same guys. It came out in that 81 draft. Oh, Joe, Joe. So he and Ricky Jack are really, really cool.
Starting point is 00:17:13 But, man, that joke of an error. Boy, he was a hit. Boy, look here. I hate, I wish L.T. could have played in this era. Yeah. So people could see how, because when you, we think, you see Aaron Donald, you see J.J. Y. You see Miles Garrett.
Starting point is 00:17:30 He's all of them. Rapped at one. But he wouldn't have been able to play. He would have been suspended. Hey, Joe, boy, he ain't, man, he didn't play? Yeah. Protect who? Protect who?
Starting point is 00:17:44 Yeah. Okay. Nah. Hey, he, the LT chop. LT was taking the ball. He's the only player. He's the most, when you talk about, he's the only player that made two position famous.
Starting point is 00:17:59 He made the left tackle famous and he made the edge famous because you had to get somebody to block him and you had to find somebody. like him. So the Michael Parsons, the T.J. Wads, the Von Miller's, the DeMarcus Wears, all those guys, he did that. And so all these left tackles that you
Starting point is 00:18:20 see, the Big Chairman, the Gary Zimmerman's and all those guys, he did that. He made two positions favors. And look how they get paid. Who made the most money? Who made the most money on the offensive line? Left tackle. Left tackle. Who made the most money on the defense
Starting point is 00:18:37 line? The edge rushing. He's rushing. Yeah. Boy, hey, look here. I can make a case. He's the greatest defensive player. I can make a case that he's the greatest player.
Starting point is 00:18:49 He ain't getting out of the three. So whoever you think, if you like a jump, if you, excuse me, if you like Tom, Jerry, and LT, for me, those are the three. Yeah. Now, I can make a compelling case for all of them being number one. But when it comes to defensive players, not him. Good deal.
Starting point is 00:19:12 So that would be the equipment. somebody coming in, they win defensive rookie of the year and defensive player of the year. In the same draft. In the same year. Remember now, the sack didn't become an official stat until 1982.
Starting point is 00:19:30 LT came in and won. So prior to that, they really didn't keep sacks as a stat. They ain't none of my business, though. Portland. So Joe Harris Portland. They got John Lillard, Holiday, Scoot Hennyson,
Starting point is 00:19:50 And because, Shade. Look, hey, look, they ain't really, if you really think about it, Ocho, they really have to give up nothing. I like Jeremy Grant. Don't get me wrong. You know, and I like the Chris Murray kid, who's a shooter.
Starting point is 00:20:02 But you really have to really tap into too much of your youth, meaning like school, Shaden Sharp, who still has the potential to be. I don't know why they didn't play him, though, Joe. We need to talk about that a little later. I think that Danny, the Danny kid, Uncle Ocho, who was an all-star this past year, I think he surprised a lot of damn people
Starting point is 00:20:21 if you want me to keep it 100. So they got some good problems I'll probably say over there in Portland but hey just like Minnesota I think Portland will be fun to watch you know obviously making the A seed I don't I mean I don't know how good this is gonna make them
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Starting point is 00:21:26 If you've ever watched one of the luxury real estate shows, oh, they're having fun with that too. Watch Little Brother now playing only on Netflix. Yeah. Hey, I don't want to see Dave shoot the ball from 35. Man, I'm talking about a act a fool with it ain't a man. Hey, and hit you with this? Yeah, yeah. I mean, it just so happened, think about it.
Starting point is 00:21:50 If there's no Steph Curry, he's the greatest shoot of all time. He just so happens to be in the same era as the guy that's the greatest shoot of all the time. I mean, if you think about, look at all these guys that was in Tiger's era, V.J. Singh was really good. Phil McKeson is a really good golfer. Ernie Els is a really good golfer. They just happen to be playing when Tiger played. Hey, I got a question, though.
Starting point is 00:22:13 Yes. You said, outside of Steph Curry, the greatest shooter is Damon Little. So what do we put Clay in that conversation? He ain't better than Dane. Huh? Not to me. Okay, okay, okay, okay. Not to me.
Starting point is 00:22:28 I'm taking Dane Miller because I think the thing is because the way he can shoot off the dribble and the way, the distance in which he can shoot it. Right, okay, I see what you're saying. Only Steph Curry can ride with the distance. Did you see the shot he hit on, I mean, he's hitting buzzer beaters against Houston, hit a buzzer beater against OKC.
Starting point is 00:22:47 Okay, C. Yeah. I know. And to shoot the ball from where he shot. Hey, hey, real talk, Ocho. He's like one of my favorite guys to watch, bro. I ain't going to lie. Like, when it comes to guards, like, you know, he take his matchup serious.
Starting point is 00:23:00 He take it personal. He compete at the highest level. But like Ongsa, you know, he shoots 20. I mean, he at least another 7 to 10 feet behind the three. You know, it's hard to guard guys like that. Listen, it ain't many guys who are going to pull up that deep. You got to be practicing that, Uncle, Ocho. So that man practiced those shots.
Starting point is 00:23:19 For sure. You know what I mean? To be able to shoot them with confidence in the game, them long, that one step, two steps across half court and you letting it go? Come on, bro. Only two guys in the history of the game that you've had to pick up at half court.
Starting point is 00:23:33 Steph Curry and Dame Lillard. Yeah. You let them see space if you want to from 30 feet. Do you remember that Saturday night game when Steph pulled up? They was down the whole night. And he pulled up against the O.K.C. And he started out.
Starting point is 00:23:47 Yeah Hey remember Damon and Russ was going on. Yeah, yeah, that used to be my favorite one. Whatever game, that's the game Whatever shot he hit and he had that Yeah, he did that bye-bye. Yeah, that was the one, yeah.
Starting point is 00:24:01 Over the PGG. I remember that. Yeah, over Paul George, Paul Joy. Because look, even watching the game, I'm like, damn, man, this three seconds, that man ain't even making no move yet. So if I was gone, I would have been like
Starting point is 00:24:12 Paul George, too. I'm like, man, we, 40 feet out of death. Thank you. Thank you, Joe. I ain't fit to do nothing crazy because I know he got handles and can get by me. The, hey, you want to sit down here
Starting point is 00:24:23 and bull and job around? I'm let you. Three seconds on the clock, Ocho. You 40 feet from the basket. I'm like, hell, I'm going to stand there too because I don't think you see the damn clock. And then, man, side step you, 40 feet out,
Starting point is 00:24:36 cash money. Come on, bro. Hey. You take a lot of confidence. You take a lot of confidence. Working confidence. Hey, I mean, that joke of man, hey, you remember that? There was a couple of games like, man, he was going crazy, like in the bubble.
Starting point is 00:24:55 He dropped 50-something on the Nuggets. I mean, he got a 70-point game. I think he got that against him. Hold on. You know what made him cold-blooded to me because I remember when Kobe passed away, and the first game the Lakers played, the tribute game was against Portland. In L.A. Ocho, that man came in L.A. and showed his ass.
Starting point is 00:25:17 Do you hear me? Man, he put on that a 40 piece on him. I said, I said, they ain't got to be the most disrespectful mofo I know. You know what I'm saying? But when you think about it,
Starting point is 00:25:28 on Kobe's night, he would want it no other way. You know what I mean? Yeah, bro. He put on a performance, bro. I think he had like 40 something. But he cut a rug on them boys at night. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:25:41 He did. Meanwhile, Memphis is traded all. All three of his former franchise cornerstones, John Morant, Desmond Bain, Jaron Jackson, Jr. Since being swept by OKC, the Thunder in the first round of 2025 playoffs. I think it was with a game three. Yeah, they was up. They had a 20-something point lead in Joggins for his ankle, and they came all the way down.
Starting point is 00:26:03 And we know they were going to win. It looked like they might have been able to win that game. I don't think, for me, they was going to win that series, but they would have won that game. And then once that. But, you know, hey, they started disconciled. assembling it piece by piece. You see there's when Bang go to Orlando. You see them send Triple J
Starting point is 00:26:21 off to Utah, accumulating picks. They probably got, what, seven first round picks now? But, hey, I don't think I don't think they really initially, really wanted to get rid of Jai, I think, but with the injury starting to pile up on them, Ocho, you know,
Starting point is 00:26:37 why he still has some pretty good value, maybe we need to go and get off of him. Maybe he need a fresh start. and he got two years left on that deal. What normally happens with two years left on a deal, Joe? Yeah. Redo it. What that means?
Starting point is 00:26:57 So he got two years of 87 million. So that's 43 and a half. He's 26. He ain't looking to go under 47 and a half, 43 and a half. He's looking to go above that, right? Yes, sir. So that means you're going to have to pay what, 50, 55, maybe 60.
Starting point is 00:27:12 Listen. They's like, nah, I can't in good conscience do that, given your injury history and your behavior of the court. And this is why I say this is a great refreshing start for him because he still can get to that bag on that Ocho. His edge has got to be available, and he got to be ready to play, period, point blank. You come out and show your butt this year, man, hey,
Starting point is 00:27:37 the next summer we'll be talking about Jodden got, you know, X, Y, Z. You got the bag, yes, sir. Mm-hmm. Revitalize his career. That's important. You've heard the chaos. Now you can see it. Hello.
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Starting point is 00:29:05 To make it look more defined. They say it works. I don't know. Listen to Skyline Drive, How to Live Forever on the IHeart Radio app. Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. We've all been there. We've had seasons that have shaken everything. The question is, what remains when the shaking stops?
Starting point is 00:29:27 Hi, I'm Gary Valenzheno. And on my podcast, Unshaken with Gary V, I sit down with amazing personalities and we talk about the seasons that nearly broke them, the lows that carried them to their highs. Listen to Unshaken with Gary V on the IHeart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. The Declaration, which is full of these beautifully rendered sentences and paragraphs about Enlightenment ideals, does also have this darker history to it. Why is it important for the darker part of the Declaration of Independence and the American Revolution? Why is it important that Americans know about it?
Starting point is 00:30:14 Well, if we don't understand the full context in which our nation was founded, we won't understand the full context in which our nation now finds itself. I'm Rebecca Nagel. Gohyn, Taoadon, Julyette, Lee, Geh, Leigh, Leigh, Leigh, citizen of Cherokee Nation. Are you guys big chiefs fans? Hell yeah. This is First America, the true story of how the United States came to be,
Starting point is 00:30:39 and how we got to this present moment. Listen to First America on the IHeart radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. This is Michael Rappaport, and my podcast, the I Am Rapaport Stereo Podcast, is unlike anyone you've ever heard. We're a variety show, and if you're looking for strong opinions, funny opinions about sports, entertainment, politics, pop culture, and whatever else catches my attention, then subscribe now. This kid Jafar Jackson is as good as Rami Malik as Freddie Mercury, and it's as good as Timothy Chamalay as Bob Dylan. And I say that with love and respect for both of those actors. And I don't know how many Oscar nominations they give out.
Starting point is 00:31:28 I don't know if it's five, six for Best Actor. 150% this kid Jafar Jackson should absolutely positively get nominated for his portrayal as Michael Jackson. Listen to I Am Rap Report on the I Heart Radio app, Apple Podcast, or wherever you get your podcast. Miami. Yonis traded to Miami for that package. I told what I told you.
Starting point is 00:32:14 Man, we got to get BP back on here. I can't wait to y'all. Hey, Ojo, we got to get BP back on here. Janice. So, Chad, did you hear that? Yonis is traded to the Miami heat. Yonis and Bobby Porters. goes to the heat, Tyler Hero, Kill Ware, Jaime Hotkiss,
Starting point is 00:32:37 three first round picks, a pig swap, and a second round pick, goes to Milwaukee. Hold on, oh, so Bobby, Bobby came to Miami, too? Yeah, that's why I said we got to get beat me back on here, man. I told, remember what Bobby said about when I told him, Yonis was coming here? Yeah. And little did he know he was a part of it.
Starting point is 00:32:56 Huh? Okay. Ah, block shove, the Milwaukee Bucks are trading franchise icon Janice Ante Cunpo and Bobby Porter's to the Miami Heat, Tyler Hero, Kale Ware, Jaime Hockes. I can't even pronounce this other guy's name, so I'm not going to butcher it. Three first round picks, including number 13,
Starting point is 00:33:16 one pick swap, and a second rounder. Sources tell ESPN. There you go. Somebody says Mitchell Robinson going to the Bulls. Also, they are going to draft A. trade get it we should make the playoffs this is why this uh this we can buy what we want and compete fast but you just i guess i mean you just traded for claxon hey unc yeah i'm still looking to see what that's at what yonnis yeah the uh shams shams reported it 58 seconds ago yon is gonna
Starting point is 00:34:22 like that that new deal hey note the taxes nice weather He get to meet me Yeah, you So now Okay, we got one big domino fall Okay, where does Jog go? Hey, unk Didn't I tell you I say Pat got one more thing up his sleeve
Starting point is 00:34:41 He ain't got nothing to offer You gonna say trade and bam? No Okay, okay Hey, but I just Still some up his sleeve now give him time Yannis is gone Get the shifty, unc
Starting point is 00:35:14 Somebody say Jocchio Orlando, Ocho. Can't believe Jalen Brown's finals MVP got drafted before Tatum, top three pick in 2016, get traded over blowing a 3-1 lead or over that podcast. Shh, cold whirl. Look, I think the thing, is it, considering there's so much smoke, is it a situation, Ocho, where you're almost damn there, like, have to trade J.B now? Are you cool bringing him back?
Starting point is 00:35:46 Because he already know how y'all feel about it because every time a trade scenario comes up with his name. Well, he's the only person of value to talk about. Who else we're going to talk about trading? J.T. We ain't talking about nobody else. But if I would, I mean, they're not going to let him go. They understand how important he is.
Starting point is 00:36:05 And obviously, even with JT being a year removed from that Achilles tear, him still having, you know, he was efficient, he was good during his time. you don't want him to have to leave that team again by himself. No. No, they're not letting him go nowhere. So you think he stays at least one more year? Yeah, absolutely. At least one more.
Starting point is 00:36:25 At least one more. Who said that? That's what they want? I don't know. I don't see that. LeBron and Pat, after that man took his cookies. Oh, back to, um,
Starting point is 00:36:42 back to, uh, oh, I like that. I like that. You bet you do. LeBron back to Miami? I bet you do. Huh? With Bobby P. and Yonis? Mm-hmm.
Starting point is 00:36:54 Hold on. Let me text LeBron. Hold on. Hold on. Let me text LeBron. That bad business. He said he ain't fooling with you. I need to invite Rich Paul on here one night.
Starting point is 00:37:14 Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Tell him, boy, come on. No. Who the point are? I mean, who's the point? I mean, yeah, Yonis and Bam, okay.
Starting point is 00:37:29 You got two guys that can protect the paint. Right. But who's the point guard? LeBron. So the question is, what y'all do? Are y'all bringing back Norman Powell? Eh, hey, Pat got some up his sleeve. I don't want to disclose any more information.
Starting point is 00:37:53 You know, I've already done more than I should. And once again, I am right, as I am 98% of the time. I'm just, I'm just leave it at that. Mickey Erison and Pat Riley have some up their sleeve, and we're going to see if it works. According to Shams, Yon is expected to be. traded before the start of the NBA draft Tuesday, with the Celtics and heat emerging as finalists to land the Buck's superstar.
Starting point is 00:38:14 You don't say. The books are not expected to include a third team in the Yonis trade, according to a source, and a focus solely on negotiating with the Celtics and the heat. Sources told Shams that if traded the two milwaukee for Yonis, Brown, would remain with the bugs. Ocho, the moment of truth. That ain't going to happen. If you're a betting man, Yonis ends up in Miami, or does he,
Starting point is 00:38:38 end up in Boston. If you're a bet, man, I didn't tell you all the past six months where he was going. I don't know how long I've been said it. You know, I ain't going to tell you who my source is. But again, everything I say, listen, I might tell a joke or two, but I ain't going to lie to you. I said we was going a long time ago. You know, y'all laughed it off. You all ain't believe me.
Starting point is 00:38:55 But I told you he's down here looking for houses. Boom. Now it comes down to it. And listen, Janus, Tatum, and Jalen Brown, that ain't happening. We know that's not happening. No. He's going to be in Miami. You know, Pat Riley got something else on his sleeve.
Starting point is 00:39:14 Obviously, when Yonnas get here, he got one more movie trying to make. We'll see if that comes into fruition so we can compete in the East. We don't want to be decoration. We want to be playing, you know, not in the playing, but being a seed. Clearly, Boston have the most assets. You get Tyler Hero. you get Jaime Hawkees you get K-O-Ware
Starting point is 00:39:40 and if I'm not mistaken, if I was reading it correctly, you get three first-round picks and you get some pick swaps. Yes, sir. Now, on the flip side, you get Jalen Brown, you get two late-round draft picks, two late first-round draft picks. I don't know the guy.
Starting point is 00:39:55 You can put it up here? Okay, the Miami Heat would send Tyler Hero, Jaime High-Kex, Cal-Ware, Nicola Hobbit, pick 13, two future first-round picks. Boston would send Jalen Brown, Hugo Gonzalez,
Starting point is 00:40:10 pick 27th, and a future first round pick. Now, the question is, do you trust your scouting department? Do you trust your drafting department? Because you've got a team that can go play right now with hero, hikks, wakheads, wear,
Starting point is 00:40:26 Hobbit, considering what you still have there, Jalen Brown is a number one option. He's going to sell tickets. So, but it seems to me they won't draft capital. Remember, they bought Dame Lillard out of his deal. They still owe him like a hundred-something million.
Starting point is 00:40:44 Damn. So, but if you give up all that, if you're the heat, Bam and Yannis ain't winning no championship. They got one more trigger base leave, huh? I'm going to see if you work. I sure hope so. Because
Starting point is 00:41:04 this happens every time, Ocho, is that you give up all your assets. And when the guy get there, the covet is bare. That's what happened. See, just imagine if the warriors had to trade for Kevin Durant. Now you can't keep all those pieces. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:41:25 Because he's a free agent and you didn't have to give up anything. Anything, yeah. Made it easy. Made it easy. But they mad at us. You see the chat, they're mad enough. Y'all keep, it's always us. When Yon says, he could see himself playing for someone
Starting point is 00:41:45 other than Milwaukee out of his own mouth. That's what he said. I didn't say that. Joe didn't say that. You didn't say that. The media's didn't say that. Yannis said he could see himself playing for someone other than the bucks.
Starting point is 00:42:01 Yeah. I bid damn if they ain't get mad at us. The media, y'all keep bringing it up. Y'all keep bringing it up. It should have gave you, it should have gave you pause for cause when he didn't sign the extension. in year five he didn't mention nothing about playing somebody else
Starting point is 00:42:19 and year eight he didn't mention by saying playing somewhere else and year 10 now all of a sudden he mentions the possibility of playing elsewhere yeah and he didn't sign the extension that would have kept him there they think what they're hard huh they think about they hard not think what they mind that's all
Starting point is 00:42:37 now don't be mad oh oh messy no y'all messy y'all get mad at us all we do is report How do we have something report on if there's nothing? Y'all get mad every time when we, Ocho and I told you something was brewing in Philly. Y'all got mad.
Starting point is 00:42:56 How you know, you ain't in the locker room. All you doing is tabloid. Do y'all think, y'all really be thinking people, I'm not saying they don't. But 98% of the time, the sources, the sources is, the head coach, the general manager, the owner, the player personnel, the scouting department. That's the source.
Starting point is 00:43:18 And guess what? And a sprinkling of players in there. Mm-hmm. Yeah. Shoot. I've been getting cussed out all day on Twitter. Talk about the Cleveland Browns and Deshawn Watson. You know, hey, they cussing me out, I don't know what I'm talking about.
Starting point is 00:43:35 Oh, and Jerry Judy a source? I say, hey, this had nothing to do with Jerry Judy. You talk about, oh, we took a picture a few days ago and all of a sudden, now I'm saying what I'm saying. No. For one, Jerry Judy's from Miami. Right. We grew up together. I'm just a little bit older.
Starting point is 00:43:50 I mean, you would hope people understand that. But no, I'm using common sense and logic. The money's going to play. There's nothing wrong with Shadour. I love Shadour. I've said it countless times. He played well last year. You know, he had some ups and doubts.
Starting point is 00:44:05 He has some growing pains. Yes. But if Deshaun Watson is healthy, he's going to be the starter. Whether you like it or not because of the money. Yep. it's common sense if you understand the game that's it that's not a source that's me having common sense and how the game goes so in other words they mad at the messengers because when adam septer say that y'all don't say adam shepter being messy when shams say that y'all don't say shams being messy
Starting point is 00:44:35 right when wold used to break story after story after story after story y'all didn't say wold's making it up so why Ocho and I got to be making it up and y'all come to the conclusion well Jared Judeo took a picture why does it matter how we got our information we telling you something you didn't know and then you turn around like oh wait we all knew that no you didn't
Starting point is 00:44:56 because you argue being an Ocho down but y'all knew it now but I'm just saying why is why isn't Wodge why is it J. Glazier why isn't uh uh shams why isn't all those other
Starting point is 00:45:12 people that give y'all inside information that they got from sources. Why aren't they messy? I've never heard, and I follow Shepter. I've known Shepter longer than anybody. Anybody that is being Shepter and I used to go to dinner. His mom and dad used to come to town. We would go to an Italian restaurant called Caramines. Ask it. He got to Denver the same time I got to Denver. I've looked up on his comments. Not one time have y'all ever seen. Have y'all ever said the man was messy. I look up under Sharm's comments. Never you say he's messy. I look up under Chon. So I just
Starting point is 00:45:51 need y'all to tell me why when we give you information from a player's standpoint and we can see things that you can't. We can understand things that you can't. Why is Ocho and Unk being messy? Just answer me that. Go ahead, chat. Take off.
Starting point is 00:46:10 Now, there ain't no crash out. I'm asking y'all a simple question. Don't know no crash out. Answer the question. Hey, no, they got, they got, no, I don't want to relax. I'm fine. I've been asleep all day. You see, did you, Ocho?
Starting point is 00:46:26 Instead of answering the question, crash out, relax. No, tell me why Ocho and I are messy. Adam Schepter report the same thing. Adam Shepter said things were going on in the locker room. When Ocho and I tried to tell you, you just being messy. Y'all will never say Adam Schuster starting anything. Y'all never say, Sean, I'm starting anything. I don't, nobody listen to me because I, I play so much.
Starting point is 00:46:55 I ain't been, I'm right 98% of the time. I'm right 98% of the time anytime I say something. I don't, you know what, Ocho? I don't say anything because if I were to say stuff, y'all going to try to pinpoint who I got it from. Right. So to keep everybody safe, I don't say nothing
Starting point is 00:47:20 I just let it play out I let it play out y'all find out in time it's like when the levy bus man why don't you tell me it's going to flood y'all gonna find out sooner later yeah I know a lot
Starting point is 00:47:38 that ain't my job I'm gonna let it play out because all you're gonna do is tell me I don't know what I'm talking about that's all you're gonna do tell me I don't know to talk about we've been so I was on this OJ Brown since October
Starting point is 00:47:50 and I say the reason why you don't do that I say because you'll have a game if you're not careful. And when they come to your, Ocho, and you don't make no plays, they're going to let you have it. And I'll be damn the Rams game, the playoffs, Lojo. It came full, it came full circle.
Starting point is 00:48:08 Yes, sir. There's a lot of things I see. Y'all forget that a lot of these coaches, a lot of these general managers, I know them. You ain't get it from me. Okay. Call me what you want to.
Starting point is 00:48:26 but just call me correct say what you want just say I'm correct why is it so hard for people to give people credit especially our people you all get Adam Shefter y'all get Adam Sheffter credit like it's nothing for me and Ocho
Starting point is 00:48:44 we're just being Ocho just a pro hustler trying to grow a channel we can't get no credit you know he got that big that big entity behind him you know what we say it it ain't down the entity. Also, we've been telling, we, look here, we played the game.
Starting point is 00:49:02 Yes, sir. We're telling you what we see. We tell you the interactions that's taking place, having been a receiver, having been a tight end, having dealt with the quarterback. Tell you something. All the years of experience that we got between us, we got 50 years of playing football. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:49:22 Organized football. but now we don't know what we're talking about. So I'm crashing the aunt. Guess what? Y'all listen to me. Crash out. I love it. All the day,
Starting point is 00:49:41 all the day, if y'all call it, y'all still, y'all, I just don't, I say what damn. Me and Ocho can say something. Yeah, this show did, such a such, and such,
Starting point is 00:49:50 oh, oh, man, Ocho said that. I'll say what's it. Damn. No, we don't get it. You ain't got it yet. Nope, no, now you get it. Now you, but damn. Oh, yo, now they get it.
Starting point is 00:50:08 Hey, I'm Ruby Carr, the host of the podcast, Oncour. Check out our brand new episodes featuring music from the show that everyone is reheating as we speak. Heated rivalry. Join me as I go behind the songs that brought Shane and Elia together. I'll tell you the stories of Fice, My Moon, My Man, Wolf forades, I'll Believe in Anything, and tattoos all the things she said, and how they all became a part of this global phenomenon. stream encore on iHeartRadio, crave, or wherever you get your podcasts. I'm Munga shit together, and I'm back with a new season of the podcast, Skyline Drive.
Starting point is 00:50:42 This time I'm diving into a rabbit hole of peptides, organoids, blood boys, blue zones, and brain replacement to try to understand what this longevity obsession is all about and what it really means to live forever, for all of us. I learned about some rad science. I can make a brain for you. you and then we can test what draw is the best for your brain as opposed to his brain. Here's some hard truths. I would expect Indians to age faster, but I did not expect it to be almost a four to five year
Starting point is 00:51:18 acceleration. And get myself into a world of trouble. I'd say probably start bone smashing. That doesn't work. Make it look more defined. They say it works. I don't know. Listen to Skyline Drive, How to Live Forever on the IHen
Starting point is 00:51:32 Heart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. The declaration, which is full of these beautifully rendered sentences and paragraphs about enlightenment ideals, does also have this darker history to it. Why is it important for the darker part of the Declaration of Independence and the American Revolution? Why is it important that Americans know about it? well, if we don't understand the full context in which our nation was founded, we won't understand the full context in which our nation now finds itself. I'm Rebecca Nagel. Gohin, Taoadon, Julykai Etliqa, Leigh-Lan, citizen of Cherokee Nation.
Starting point is 00:52:18 Are you guys big Chiefs fans? Hell yeah. This is First America, the true story of how the United States came to be, and how we got to this present moment. Listen to First America on the Iheart radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. We've all been there. We've had seasons that have shaken everything. The question is, what remains when the shaking stops? Hi, I'm Gary Valenzano. And on my podcast, Unshaken with Gary V, I sit down with amazing personalities and we talk about the seasons that nearly broke them. the lows that carried them to their highs.
Starting point is 00:53:04 Listen to Unshaken with Gary V on the IHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. This is Michael Rappaport, and my podcast, the I Am Rapaport Stereo Podcast, is unlike anyone you've ever heard. We're a variety show, and if you're looking for strong opinions, funny opinions about sports, entertainment,
Starting point is 00:53:26 politics, pop culture, and whatever else catches my attention, then subscribe now. This kid Jafar Jackson is as good as Rami Malik as Freddie Mercury, and it's as good as Timothy Shamaulay as Bob Dylan. And I say that with love and respect for both of those actors. And I don't know how many Oscar nominations they give out, I don't know if it's five, six for Best Actor. 150% this kid Jafar Jackson should absolutely positively get nominated
Starting point is 00:53:58 for his portrayal as Michael Jackson. Listen to IM Rap Report on the IHeart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcast. You're with Miniamma size of five-year, $252 million max rookie scale extension. When we decided to take the 25% max instead of the 30% supermax. That would have with escalators would have been $303 million. So are they going to see that on the screen, Ash? So his salary is 27 is $43, $43 million. $310,000, it could have been a tick below $52 million.
Starting point is 00:54:44 And then he goes to $46,770, and it could have been $56,030. And then he goes to $50,240, and it's a tick under $60.3 million. And 31, it goes $53.7 to $64.45. So basically, he took a $51 million, $50-50-1 million cut to state. Spurs chairman Peter J. Holt, CEO R.C. Buford and Brian Wright, and coach Ms. Johnson traveled to Paris to meet him and spend time with Victor and his family and his reps Friday. Wembe Yama essentially locked to earn a 300 Supermacks if he played 65 games next year, but opted to take significant less sacrifice at a flashpoint for the Spurs to rise. NBA PPA is preparing to fight back hard against the second apron, especially now that the news of Wemby passing up the Super Bowl. Max to help the Spurs try to keep the roster together long term.
Starting point is 00:55:42 The CBA should not be put on the player in position where he has to carry the burden in order to keep a team together. A system does that. We have a problem. I agree. Don't put that on us. Don't put that on us on us on the players. They always do that. And I knew this was going to come because we talked about with the Jalen Brunson.
Starting point is 00:56:05 Yeah. We talked with this is what teams are going to expect. from their players. Nah, bro. Yeah, yeah. Everybody's not going to do that, though. Especially teams that are not in a position, like the Spurs are.
Starting point is 00:56:18 The Spurs are in a perfect position where if you do take a discount, there's a good chance that we can get in the finals. But you know how? Players come up, you know, and they are eligible for Supermax. They ain't taking no discount. Because, hey, we very far.
Starting point is 00:56:35 You know how they're going to paint the picture, though, okay, Ojo. You selfish? Yep. You know how they're going to paint the picture. They're going to paint the picture just like that. But I think in Wimby's case here, he's going to make so much money off the court here.
Starting point is 00:56:46 He's going to make up all that. I'm going to get, because guess what? I can still get this max contract and still get my money. Because guess what? I guarantee them tickets ain't going to get no cheaper. I know. Even though Wemby took a $50 million here, you think they're going to lower or raise the ticket prices
Starting point is 00:57:02 every single year moving forward, oh, Joe? Concession. Do you think they're going to raise or lower the concession every single year moving forward, Joe. Let me ask you a question. NBC, Amazon Prime, ESPN, tell me which one they gave a discount because these players are taking a discount.
Starting point is 00:57:20 Right. You're right. We're going to talk about this in a second, Joe, before you go. You see what the Seattle Seahawks just went for, Joe? Ocho. What they went for?
Starting point is 00:57:30 9.6. He bought the team in 1997 for $194 million. Damn. That's crazy. Now, if I'm not mistaken, I think it was 2023. Washington sold for $6 billion. Three years later, an extra $3.6 billion.
Starting point is 00:57:55 Now, I want to know, did they say, you know what? I'm going to get your discount on this. I know we worth about 9.6, but I'm going to let you have it for 9. Shh. You see how they do? And players going to eat it up. Fans don't know Even if the team
Starting point is 00:58:14 Sacrifices money You still gonna pay full price Your PSLs Ain't gonna go down Your playoff tickets Ain't gonna price ain't gonna go down Right But hey
Starting point is 00:58:33 They they've They've I'm not gonna tell him to him what he should or shouldn't do That's your money You want to take you want to give the team a discount Give your team a discount Hey listen you got cat About to get ready to come up
Starting point is 00:58:47 What cat gonna do? Cat said Cat said he'd be willing to do it. That's what he said. But I'm looking at, I already got me a ring. I would just get rid of saying. Yeah, but you did in New York, you beloved. Like, you're...
Starting point is 00:59:05 I'm going to be beloved in New York, too. They're going to pay me all my money. Hey, but what about the squad, though? If we pay you all that money, we're going to get rid of two, God. We might have to let bridges or O.G. Harder somebody go. We want to keep the band together, though.
Starting point is 00:59:26 We're running back, though. They just gave OG five years for 206. Brunson and 28 comes up. He'll be eligible before a 400. I'm just, I don't tell anybody how to live their life. If that's what you want to do, Kat, if that's what you want to do to keep this thing together, keep it together.
Starting point is 00:59:48 But all I'm saying is the owner said he's not going into the second apron. So he ain't willing to sacrifice nothing. But he wants the player to sacrifice. Yeah. Yeah, yeah. You see? Hey, y'all hear me? People knocking on my dope.
Starting point is 01:00:04 They're saying you too loud. Yeah, probably. Hey, but you got to be able to, you got to be able to some way somehow help teams that do draft pretty well. Ocho, you know what I mean? Like, it's got to be something they can help them. Because how do I get punished for drafting well? And obviously, I got to pay all these guys.
Starting point is 01:00:24 But damn, it's got to be some type of stipulations to where it's, got to be something in our favor. Well, it's going to be what you call them. OKC going to be faced with this. Oh, yeah. You think they're going to get them guys a third contract, Joe? Give who a third contract? OKC with Shay and Chad and Jay Dube.
Starting point is 01:00:47 So you mean to tell them I'm going to have now, I'm going to have three guys making $300 million? Right. I got three guys damn them are going to be a billion. So out of them three, one of them got to go. Absolutely. And before you know it, they're going to wheel them down and both of them have to go.
Starting point is 01:01:04 I believe Shades are still the only untouchable. Because think about it, Boston only had two guys making that Super Max money, and they say one of them had to go. Damn, so they're going to mess around and get J. Dub up. Yeah. But I don't, I, but here's the PA. This is what upsets me about player association, Gocho. Y'all agreed to this.
Starting point is 01:01:33 you just did this deal you agreed to it you got sellers remorse now you signed off on this because you were so hell bent on making sure teams don't become super teams that you gave this
Starting point is 01:01:50 and you knew the owners like I ain't no way in hell I'm paying for all this but what it does it punishes players that are in line to get supermax contracts now teams get up off of yeah that's basically to what has happened. You signed this deal.
Starting point is 01:02:09 Terry Cruz, T. Cruz, I've been knowing T. Cruz. He played with my brother. So I've been knowing T. Cruz 30 years. When I sat down with him, he said, shaned a lot of people in Hollywood. He said, they nod yes, but they mean no. Yes. No. Joe, they just signed this deal, Joe.
Starting point is 01:02:32 Yeah. So unless the owners went back and put these stipulations, in there after the fact. What are we complaining about, Ocho? What are we complaining about, Joe? Joe, this is your field. Tell me what we're complaining about
Starting point is 01:02:47 because you got these $1,500, $2,000 lawyers that can read better and can comprehend better than what you can. Tell me what was added. So with this second apron, did this just come in this year, or was it in the CBA that you negotiated? I'm going to be honest with you,
Starting point is 01:03:06 Uncle Ocho. I have no damn idea. I don't. But this second April, I know it just started. You know what I mean? Because now you're having to break these teams up. But I don't know when it came into a play where there's been two or three years, but I'm just seeing the effects of it.
Starting point is 01:03:26 Hold on. I'm going to tell you when it started. However to see, say, NBA collective bargaining agreement is set to expire the end of 2930 season. However, the league and the NBA Players Association have an option to opt out. of the agreement one year early by declaring their intention to do so by 2028. Well, clearly they're going to opt out of it.
Starting point is 01:04:08 Yeah. Clearly they're about to opt out of it. Yeah, but it was put in place to stop them damn super teams. Yes. Yeah, so. Well, I think the thing is, Joe, and I get it. I get it. But the problem that you run into is that when I draft well and my players perform well,
Starting point is 01:04:28 you also prevent me from being able to keep them. Yeah, that's what I'm saying. That's what I'm saying. Like, I don't think a team should be penalized for that. If you draft well and your teams do well or your players over exceed expectations, man, you shouldn't be punished because you can't pay all of them. You know what I mean? Like, there has to be some type of stipulations in there to where, hell, if I draft you,
Starting point is 01:04:51 you know, we should be able to some way somehow keep you. And it don't really kill our salary cap like that. The current agreement was ratified by the MBAPA membership in April of 2023. It took FEC July the 1st, 20203. So Joe, oh Joe, they signed off on this. Yeah. They signed off on this. And what?
Starting point is 01:05:21 This bargain agreement, what, 10 years, right? No, basically, it's from 23, July of 23, it was certified, ratified in July. of 2023. So, and it goes until 2030, but you can opt out. If you can opt, you can say, okay, I want to opt out. And so you opt out a year before the ends. And so in 28, it can be the final year of it.
Starting point is 01:05:43 So in other words, everything that's in this contract, Joe, was in there in 23 when they signed it. Yeah. Yeah. But you see what happens, Joe? You look at it like, if I get my max money, I don't care where I get it from. As long as I get my max money, whether I get it from OKC,
Starting point is 01:06:00 whether I get it from Golden State, whether I get it from the Knicks. As long as I get $2.50, as long as I get $3.50, I don't care who give it to me. Until you get on a team to have success. And you're like, hold on, wait a minute. We're not going to be able to stay together.
Starting point is 01:06:15 Because there's no middle ground. There's no in between. It's either you getting the max contract or you're almost getting peanuts. You feel me? And that's kind of how it is. So, hey, man, they put them figures in front of them, boys ain't no telling man I don't know
Starting point is 01:06:32 Ocho we know firsthand because guys like everybody it's the players joke because you know there's only a certain amount of people that's going to make the Supermax just like Ocho and I know there's only a certain amount of people that's going to get the $100 million to $200 million
Starting point is 01:06:47 contracts in the NFL is those guys that there are more guys that's not going to make that than the guys that are and those guys that are not those are the ones they're like man hey bro you made you already got you the middle in the bank. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:07:01 I'm year to year, bro. I'm signed it. I'm playing. Yeah. That's how it works. And that's how it's been, bro. So you got to basically say, look here, Ocho, I understand, bro, but I don't need,
Starting point is 01:07:14 hey, tell the wife, no expensive gifts. Don't get no second home. Don't do X, Y, Z, A, K. I don't really try to tell y'all how to do it, but you can't have no baby mama because we're about to have to shut this thing down for a year or two. That's a bad thing.
Starting point is 01:07:30 in order to get what we want. It's hard to get everybody on that same page. It absolutely is. Especially with NFL players? Because, hey, I got a flaws, you know. I got me about four-five, I got me, you know, I got me a G-wagon, I got me a culling, got me two plowses. I got my mom 15, 20,000 square feet.
Starting point is 01:07:56 No, get mom something that she can, get mom something that she can clean her. yourself. Yeah. Get mom 3,000 square feet. You get good. 20,000? Two thousand. Woo. Three thousand. How you're going to get a mom house bigger than yours?
Starting point is 01:08:15 Because you've got to realize, Ocho, a lot of times you get mom these big houses, you got to pay to keep it up. Hello. You got to pay somebody to cut the grass. You got to pay somebody coming there and clean. Get mom something they can clean. Hey, my sister can clean this right here.
Starting point is 01:08:30 Pick up after yourself. It ain't nobody but two of y'all, you and granny. Thanks. Thanks. What's your own that one? Hopefully, look, they come to some type of resolution guys where they can figure this thing out. Because I agree, Joe, this burden should not be placed on the players.
Starting point is 01:08:51 The players should not have to have the financial responsibility to say, we want to keep a team together. So what does the team do? Just sit back? I think the teams, I think they kind of knew all alone this was going to happen. Yeah, you was going to run into this problem. Look, they want all this money up front. They want these max dollars.
Starting point is 01:09:10 But hell, at some point, some of these max players are going to have to start taking haircuts if they want to continue to play on great teams. These owners knew that. Okay, Ocho. But guess what the owners never do. But they never give these TVs. They never give these partners.
Starting point is 01:09:28 They don't give them a discount. They don't give these sponsors and advertisers discount. Because guess what the Super Bowl ad going to be this. year. Eight million. 30 second spot, Joe. And they got 240 of them. Damn.
Starting point is 01:09:46 Oh, yeah. But they're billionaires, they ain't giving no damn. They ain't cut it. That's my point. That's what, Ocho and I, we were talking about it
Starting point is 01:09:55 from the very beginning. How have billionaires convince normal fans to turn on the millionaires, which are the players, inside with them? They sharks. man.
Starting point is 01:10:09 They're smart because they put it out there. You don't care about winning. You're selfish. And then you take some of your best players when you get, because first of all, once Tom Brady did it and they won, the expectation is you see what Tom did. And fans start to believe,
Starting point is 01:10:26 well, if you like Tom Brady, Tom Brady was making more off the field than he was on the field. Tom Brady's wife at the time was doing $30 million a year. Hell, if my wife did $30 million a year, and I'm doing $15, $20 a year, damn right. a $5 million hair cut. But my wife ain't making that.
Starting point is 01:10:43 As a matter of fact, she costing me money. You know your wife making money. If you marry somebody and they make you sign a pre-nup. Oh, man. Oh, yeah. That mean you probably married in or something. It's reported that Travis signed a pre-nup with Taylor. She worked to, allegedly, she's worth $2 billion.
Starting point is 01:11:13 When you making millions, You make $20 million a year Plus off the field probably another $5.10. So you make $30 million a year. And your wife's here. Slide you this piece of paper. And you have your lawyer read it over. What are they telling you?
Starting point is 01:11:31 They ain't very many situations like that. They ain't very many situations like that. Hey, hey, you're going to feel away, though? Hell no. I ain't feeling no way. Because I told people, I tell my homeboys all the time. They tell my shop, I ain't got no more. money like you, man, I ain't got nothing.
Starting point is 01:11:49 I say, good. That way you leave with your nothing. All of your nothing. I don't want you leave with 50% of your nothing. Hey, the funny thing about it, I don't know the percentage or I don't know the stat chat. You probably, you guys can probably find it faster than I can. Think about the wealthiest women in the world, right?
Starting point is 01:12:06 Wealthiest in the women in the world. And what percentage of that wealth come from divorce? A large chunk. Or inherited. Yeah. Yeah. I'm not saying. side of inheritance.
Starting point is 01:12:18 Yeah, large, yeah, for sure. But inherited, most of it has come from divorce. So, hopefully they can figure this thing out, players figure it out. It's a lot of money to be made now because if somebody paid you $300 million,
Starting point is 01:12:37 how much are you actually making them? Because they ain't turning the loss now. They never turn the loss. So if they wouldn't pay you $300 million, Joe, you're bringing them half a bill. They don't even know it. especially if you got one of these guys from overseas, you got a Wimby or you got a Luca?
Starting point is 01:13:00 Why do you think they tried to get NFL teams over there, Ocho? They try to get two teams over there because you just saw what they went for, right? So now a new team coming into the NFL, you can't come in less than 10 bill. Hold on, they're trying to get it over where, huh? Overseas. They try to get two NFL teams overseas.
Starting point is 01:13:19 Damn. That's a long flight, right? See, they got two teams over team. You go over there and you stay the whole, you play, you play both teams. You stay for two weeks. And then you come back. Ah, okay, okay. But at some point, the teams had to come here down.
Starting point is 01:13:34 Yeah, for sure. And then they'll stay two weeks, three weeks, and then they'll go back over there and stay two, three weeks. I like that. I like that idea. That ain't bad. But for, but for $20 billion, what you think the owner's thinking? And they chop that up 30 ways. Ooh.
Starting point is 01:13:51 Mm-hmm. You say how many billions? 10 billion? You ain't because you're not going to be able to get one for less than 10. Yeah. The Cincinnati, the Bengals value just increased. I think the Cincinnati, I think y'all, oh, and I ain't taking no shot at you. I think you guys are the least valuable team.
Starting point is 01:14:11 Don't do that. But least valuable, least valuable now is $5 billion. Okay, okay, we rich. Yeah. Five billion. Job and Rats, Sparks. John Morant spoke for the first time about the perceived
Starting point is 01:14:32 bad boy image since being traded to Portland. Let's take a listen to what J'all had to say. I mean, obviously I've done you know what I've done in the past but it's been addressed and handled already so I don't see why, you know, years later that's still the
Starting point is 01:14:48 topic when nothing happened since, you know? And I felt like if I was that guy y'all wouldn't be talking to me now. I wouldn't be here. You did build up a big big fan. I agree with it.
Starting point is 01:15:06 He's like, look, bro, give me a chance. What I did there, I did there. Now, I'm here. This is a new slate. I'm with a new team. If I run a file, you have the right to bring that up. Now, we don't got it out of the way now, Joe, we addressed it. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:15:25 I don't need every time that we have a conversation. You talk about what I did in Memphis. years, three years ago. Hey, hey, but we know we know it's going to follow him, Uncle Ocho. I know he don't want to hear. I know he want to move on. I know he want to start over. We have a new slate. But, hey, man, some of the images that's left in people's head, bro. They want to know your thought process, what you were thinking
Starting point is 01:15:48 at the time. What he has to do is just stay focused, bro, and keep ground. Yep. And that's it. Head down. Keep chopping wood, partner. But along with that, too, Uncle Joe, obviously chat. y'all, you're all listening to me too. We have to understand what makes Javara Mara special, you know, what makes him as exciting in the polarizing player that he was in Memphis. Not the off-the-court stuff.
Starting point is 01:16:12 That's about him on the court, still remaining allowing him to be himself without losing his edge. You know, you can tape it back a little bit, but don't take away what makes him special. There's a certain it factor that he has, and there's a certain presence and ore that he brings and energy, you know, to a team.
Starting point is 01:16:31 And we saw that with Memphis. So we don't want to take it all of them from me. No, we just don't want, Alway, how about this here, Ocho? Just keep the guns off social media and keep the guns out of building where you shouldn't have them. That's all we ask you, Joe. Hold on. I got one more. Okay, can we let the grenade go?
Starting point is 01:16:48 Let the grenade go. Hey, listen, I like all the antics, because, you know, for one, it lets me know he's enjoying the game and having fun. And it seems like he's lost his joy for the game, Uncle Ocho. And I could be wrong, but just by listening to him talk. Like, I want to see him get back enthused about playing the game. I want to see, I want to see him get back to being that kid that we enjoy watching, bro, who was box office, star stuttered every night, you know, putting on the show.
Starting point is 01:17:20 That's what you want to see, man, like, you know, body language don't lie. You know what I'm saying? So when I see you out there training, working out, playing. like I want to see that enthusiasm coming from him, bro. Like I just feel like the past couple of years because he's dealt with so many injuries and so many setbacks, you know, that it took the love and joy and passion away from him.
Starting point is 01:17:41 Even times he has played Arkin Ocho Hill. He's just been, you know, just kind of out there. I want to see him get back to having fun, man. And you know what also is that? You know, not only it changes scenery, it can be a good thing for you but it could also be a wake-up ball. Absolutely, they woke him up.
Starting point is 01:18:00 They moved it. He was their franchise player. I was just going to say that. You're the franchise player. You're the face of Memphis over there. And they had the nerve to move me. And they didn't get a whole lot for you. That lets you know, Joe.
Starting point is 01:18:13 Now, the next move, you know it's going to be. Because they got little of nothing for an all-MBA player, an all-star player. That's 25, 26 years of age. They basically had to give him away. Yeah. Yeah. That ain't normal, bro.
Starting point is 01:18:26 So, hey, hey, hey. He's another guy You know, we talk about J.B who's going to be motivated. I'm looking forward to Jai You know, being motivated as well, bro. Getting back to Getting back to enjoying the game, man.
Starting point is 01:18:38 I got to see it, bro. He's got too much talent. He's phenomenal, man. Too much talent, Uncle Ocho. I got to see it, bro. But guys moved to a new spark for me.
Starting point is 01:18:50 I know it's back there, but, okay, change the scenery. Now, he'd go here cut up. now you just lost me. But I'm willing to get a man the benefit of the doubt that he's at a new scenery. He has a change of scenery.
Starting point is 01:19:08 I believe he has a hopefully he's learned his lesson and he's going to be a model citizen. Like I said, just keep the guns off social media. Don't take him where you're not supposed to have him. You'd be fine. I don't know what made the man put a firearm on social media, Joe. I still don't understand. Hey, hey, uh-uh, just
Starting point is 01:19:29 You don't, but you don't be thinking, Joe, you don't. I mean, you get so caught in the moment, bro, from the times that it did happen to him when he was in the little strip joint and ride with his partner, like, you get so caught up in the moment, bro, you, I don't know, man, I ain't, I don't know. Joe, I ain't never, Joe, we flew, look,
Starting point is 01:19:48 we, I ain't never thought about taking that, taking that tool with me on the road. I ain't either, I'm, okay, I ain't gonna lie to. should be a lot easier back in the day, boy. You get that thing on there. I'm talking about when nobody knows nothing. Nothing. Because we pulled right up,
Starting point is 01:20:04 got off, and ain't had to go through no metal deterring. They just walked right to rock your ass right up on the step to the plane. Nothing. Nothing, bro. I'm talking about ooh. And I definitely, I definitely ain't, no, Barney Porties to tell us all the time since the son, if you got to take a weapon somewhere with you, you don't need to go there. Right.
Starting point is 01:20:24 Right. You don't need to go there. there. He learned his lesson, man. He learned his less. I believe so. Yeah. I believe so. Because behind all that hell, he lost a lot of M's, boy. Even though, even though he still has one of the hottest shoes out and the man ain't really played, it lets you know, bro, how, how iconic he is and what he means to the culture, because these kids love him, bro. They do. They love him. Hey everybody, I'm Tarika Foster Brasby.
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