Nightcap - Best of NFL Championship Sunday Part 1: Jarrett Stidham, Broncos los AFC title to Patriots, SLEPT on Sam Darnold as Seahawks go to the Super Bowl

Episode Date: January 28, 2026

Shannon Sharpe and Chad “Ochocinco” Johnson breakdown both AFC/NFC Championship games that saw the Seattle Seahawks and New England Patriots advance to Super Bowl LX. Subscribe to Nightcap presented by PrizePicks so you don’t miss out on any new drops! Download the PrizePicks app today and use code SHANNON to get $50 in lineups after you play your first $5 lineup! Visit https://prizepicks.onelink.me/LME0/NI... 0:00 - Seahawks Def. Rams to be crowned NFC Champs24:48 - Patriots Def. Broncos in Snowy game to win AFC title (Timestamps may vary based on advertisements.) #ClubSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

Hey guys, it's your favorite dunk here. Go ahead and click that subscribe button below so you don't miss a single episode of Nightcap. That button right here. Come for the sports. Stay for the stories. You see how to Seahawks. Hold on to beat and beat the Rams by the score of 31 to 24. Sam Darla was 25 and 36, 3.46, three touchdowns, no interceptions.

They ran the ball 26 time for 75 yards. One touchdown. JSN, 10 catches of Buck 53, one touchdown. and Cooper Cup caught another touchdown. Jake Bobo had a touchdown. Matthew Stafford was just as equally as great. 22 or 35. Yes.

374. Three touchdowns. Pooka Nakua, $9.4.65 in a touchdown. Devante Adams, four for $89 on a touchdown. Kairn Williams, two for 22 at a touchdown. But it was the costly turnover. The punt.

They muffed the punt. He got away with it the first time, Mocho. He jumped on it. This time he could not get away from it. and the Seattle Seahawks are going back to the Super Bowl. Super Bowl 60 would be a rematch of Super Bowl 49. When the New England Patriots take on the Seattle Seahawks, the Seattle earned their fifth trip to the Super Bowl.

They have yet to win. They haven't won one yet, have it? So yeah, the Legion of Boone, they beat the Bronco. They beat the Bronco, beat the breaks off us, 48 to 3. Yeah, I'm trying to forget that one. They put that ass on us. Ocho, watching this game, man. And they were dealing.

Yeah. But I thought Seattle made just a few more plays defensively, and that was the difference in the ball game. That was the exact difference in the ball game. I was going to come down to defense, obviously both quarterbacks were dealing. Both offenses were very efficient on the ground, having a lot of balance on the ground

to be able to do what they did in the passing game. Matthew Stafford was phenomenal, Uncle. He was phenomenal. Kudos to them, even though they didn't win this game. They played offensively, extremely, extremely well. What I saw from Sam Donald is a Saram Donald that I know we needed to see in order for them to be able to win this game. Sam Donald that they were going to pressure, that were going to get him off his spot where he had to make plays that were off script that weren't exited nose, things that were away from the goddamn game plan in general. And he was able to do that.

Obviously, goddamn. What more can I say about the JSN that we saw tonight? What more can I say about the JSCN that we've seen all season long? J.S.N has been Rose Bowl, the Rosevo Jensen that we saw at the Rose Bowl in goddamn college with the JSA we've seen the entirety of the season, including tonight's game. He has one more game where he needs to be that JASN that we saw at the Rose Bowl when he was, when myself was in who he was and how special of a talent he was. I never knew he would be what we saw this season, but man, he's one, he's one special dude outside of that defensive.

The Seahawks were the Seahawks. They almost, almost, I'm glad to Rick Woolen, that costly penalty didn't cost them, didn't cost them the game. Outside of that, it was a great game, my mom. Yeah. I mean, can I ask you something real quick, and I know how you are. I know how you are when it comes to discipline. Hey, chat, y'all let me know what you think about the taunting.

And I think when it comes to the game of football, we should still be allowed to express ourselves. In front of the opposing teams, That's what he did. Not that. Not that. Yeah, but this is the NNC championship game. Do you really want to call something like that?

You say you was this team game? Where was this team game celebrating with him? Mm-mm. No, no, no, no. It's a team game. You say you'll express yourself. I thought we celebrated because the NFL said, you know what? We'll let you celebrate with your team because before they would let you celebrate with your team.

So now they say, you know what? It's a team game. Let's celebrate. So where was this teammate that was celebrating with him? No, I know, I'm here, I heard you saying, but I'm just saying In that situation, Ocho, so you don't, so you can think about it. Not only did he do that, what happened to the very next play, Ocho, for the people that didn't see it at home? They went right at him, monk.

They went right at him. That's what made it even worse. And I'm glad that penalty didn't cost them the game because they went right back at him on the very next play to put in the core down the sideline. But I mean, I just, I just hate to see those type of flag come out. Obviously, I obviously, Willing has to be a lot smarter. in that situation. You made a great play. You made a great play.

And obviously it was fourth and, it was going to be fourth and 12 until they threw the flag. And obviously, he got a little beside himself. It was unfortunate. But, hey. Because he's in his own head. So that's the best chance to take advantage of him.

Because he knows what he's done. He's like, oh, my goodness. We were off the field. We were about to get the ball back. We're already up 10. Who, boy, we're about to get the ball back. Hey. Yes, sir.

Yes, sir, feeling good, feeling good. What have I done? Don't you? They let you get away with it. How long, let me ask you question. How long do you want to stand there and celebrate in front of their bench? Because they let you get away with it initially.

The official didn't throw the flag, but you just stood there and just started walking up and down and just looking at him. Yeah, yeah, he kept going. Yeah, he kept going. So I just wanted, I mean, is it like Kea and Pills say, is it one pump? Is it two pumps?

Is it three pumps? Five, ten. Yeah. I just want to know how many, how many pumps he want to get. Because the official, the official standing right there, Ocho, he let him go. He's like, you know what? Yeah, he let him go.

Yeah, he let him go. Hey, uh-huh. I'm gonna let it go. He kept going. Yeah. Yeah. Hey, uh, it was a little excessive. It was a little, you know.

Hey, listen, listen, talk your trunk, talk your shit. You almost intercepted. You made a great play on Puka, you know, say what you need to say and go on by your business. I've seen previews that didn't last this long. I don't know what he was thinking. Uh, and then Nick, you know, man. Manwari got it afraid.

And did he get mad at Nick? Bro, why are you mad? The guy's telling you, bro, we're off the field. And you doing that, we're going to get an opportunity. Now, just think about it, Ocho. You get to celebrate all you want to right now. Just keep celebrating. Oh, yeah, absolutely.

Absolutely. And so I don't have no problem. I know E. Manwari is a rookie, but I love this gentleman can flat out play. He is a effing player. He will thump, he can cover. He doesn't have a weakness in his game. He is as good as he's better than advertised. Now, I don't know, hey, I don't know who let him pass

get all the way down to the second round, considering that what he did at the Combine, but he is, hey, he's going to hear the state. Go ahead, Ocho. Hold on. Hold on. Speaking of him, like, can you please explain to me, chat? Maybe you guys can help me in and fill me in.

Maybe it's something that I don't know, Unk. Maybe you can fill me in and educate me on how Poole of Kua fell to the goddamn fifth round. I'm not sure with the scouts. He didn't run fast. I'm not sure with the owners. Oh, Joe, you know the best favorite thing on 40 time, man. And that, and that is the problem.

Some of the best receivers that ever played this game, it has nothing to do with it for 40 time. The game of football is not played in the straight line. I'm not sure why the emphasis on 40 time is talked about so much. And the funny thing about it is, chat, stay with me real quick, is the way the NFL is built is you can become, you can change your life.

If you can run in a straight line, as fast as hell, you can get you a large lump sum and be set and be set for life. Now, eventually you will get exposed because if you don't have the other intangibles that come into play when it comes to playing the game in football. I mean, you come on, man. You preach it to the choir. You talk about some of the greatest players, a Emmett Smith, a Jared Rice, or Shannon Sharp, or Tom Brady.

It's okay. But they put so much emphasis when you don't play in a straight line. It's very few times. How many goal routes are you going to run the course of a game? You don't. Every so often, every so often they call to play on. And the funny thing when I think about it and I understand it when it comes to the game of football, having speed, having it as a factor and you having it in your toolbox, that's a great thing.

That's an awesome thing. But it's not needed to have success week in and week out at your Pacific or specified position. You don't have to be fast. It's all about understanding angles, leverages, being able to manipulate whatever or whoever it is in front of you. Understanding the game. It's a chess match. That's why they always say the game is 90% mental and 10% physical. Because if you can win up here, all the other attributes that you come with don't even matter if you know what the fuck you.

I'm sorry. I'm sorry. If you know exactly what you're doing. That's it. I think the thing you're on, Joe. Coaches like things that they cannot coach. I can't coach B. You can't teach speed.

I can't coach you high. I can't coach your size. So those things, see, I can teach your technique, Coachel. I can teach you how to back up. I can teach you how to drive a T-stel. I can teach you how to bend. I can teach you to have to turn speed into power. I can't teach you how to run fast.

Either you have it or you don't. It's either in you or it's not. And people say, well, no, you could all row. You could, a person that's like, well, he went from this to that. That was in him. Someone taught him technique. But he could always run fast because if that was the case,

you could teach Tom Brady how to run 4-4. If you could teach somebody how to run fast, you could teach Tom Brady how to run 4-4. You can't because his makeup won't allow it, no matter how much technique he has. With that being said, Ocho, yeah, Clint Kubiak within his bag. Now, he's got to get a head coaching job.

Now, I don't know if it's going to be the Raiders. I don't know if it's going to be. Because, see, like, everybody turns the Browns down. They're like, nah, take me off the list. I only want to interview for that job. you got to understand. Nobody wants to go to the Browns simply because they're in quarterback purgatory right now.

They don't know what they're going to do in that direction. Now, all the teams, listen, the Giants, man, listen, everybody was hawking at that job. That's a job that anybody would love to have. Teams that don't have a consistent quarterback or that foundation is not in play, nobody wants to go there. You just don't because you know your lease is going to be very short

until you answer the question at that position. I agree, Ocho. I totally agree. We'll talk about that in a minute, but the Rams is the one turnover, and you play dearly. You look at the Broncos. We'll talk about that in a minute.

It was the turnover. The Broncos. The Broncos. Yeah, we're going to talk about that in the minute. What do you think about to play on 30 and 7 with 320 remaining? Do you think Cooper Cup was short of the first down or you thought he got the first down? I thought he was short too, won't you? Yeah, he was short.

But they gave him the first. Listen. You know how they play on. I don't want to say none. And I'm not saying I'm not a conspiracy theorist. But you know he was short. I mean, a blind man can see that. I'm not Ray Charles.

And I only got one eye. And I can clearly see that he was short at the first down. I'm not sure what they were doing in that certain situation. But, hey, he was clear as short. As long as I've been watching the game of football, that ain't no goddamn first down. Absolutely not. I think the thing is.

is the ram in the off season, they got to go get secondary help. The secondary is not good enough. Oh, the Rams. Listen. The Rams secondary is not good enough, Joe. Okay.

They're not good enough, but they've been good, they've been good this season. Even though they don't have, even though they don't have what you may, excuse me, what you may think. They play,

they play good enough for them to do or get to this point. We'll see when. They might, they, they, they, not the Broncos. They haven't been the, they haven't been the Seahawks.

but they've been very good because that front, that front is phenomenal. They've been good. So very, very, very few times that the back end been exposed. No, but if you go back and look at them, the comeback, it was the secondary. If you look at them, oh, Joe, is their offense? Because they score so much, they put so much pressure on you. You don't really get a chance.

So now a team can dictate on their terms. Seattle was able to dictate the entire night on their terms. Take JSCN out. Cooper, cover me. Guys would just, I'm like, well, damn, y'all want to cover somebody? And I agree. Look, they got to Sam Darnel three times. But if they didn't pressure him enough, they let him outside and they let him by time, you got to pressure him.

And my concern was, will Sam Darner revert back? Thus far in the postseason, he's been exemplary. He's been exemplary. Can he be exemplary? One more game. One more game. That's all it comes down. And we look at Sam Donald.

The Jets let him go. The Panthers let him go. The 49th, and I get the 49th, because Brock Purdy played extremely well. The Vikings let him go. Now the Seahawks got him, and they go into the Super Bowl. You know what?

You know who could have, you know, when I sit back and think about it, I was watching the game, and I know there's one receiver. There's one receiver that I was watching the game the night that I know he's pissed off. I know he's upset. He should have called management

and whoever he needs to call. call and say, why you let him get up out the door? No, no, not D.K. I'm talking about 18 down there in Minnesota. This is what you let out the door after what he did because you believe the number eight pick was the answer for the future and you see what we got now? What are you doing? What are you thinking about? But anyway, listen, like you did say, one more game monk, no turnovers.

No turnover. And I was thinking tonight, what is McVeigh going to do to the Seattle's to yawks to rattle the quarterback, we're going to pressure him. We're going to get him off his spot. We're going to force him. We're going to speed him up and hope he can make mistakes and turn the ball over and give us one. He didn't do it. Yeah. Look, I'm not going to sit here.

I thought that Sam Darnel would command the $50 plus million on the market. So I was against that. I was like, Minnesota, don't keep him for $50 million. But for 33? Ocho, 33? Wait, hold on. He underpaid. Yes.

But see, I thought they were going to have to go to one of those. I thought they were going to have to go a quarter of a meal where they having to play in 50 million, you know, have to give him $130, 40 million. I was like after one year, I don't know about that. Hey, I got a question. Now we're going on the topic of money. Did he say, he didn't sign a long term. He signed a one year, right? He signed a $300 million.

I think he got $30 million. Oh, Joe, they're probably tear that. If not this year, next year, they're tearing that up. He'll never play to the end of that. No, no, no, no, no, no, no, no. Well, if he wins the Super Bowl, they definitely go tear it. Oh, man, man, I'm talking about rip it. And four corners.

They're going to set five to that, Ocho. He'll never play another day. Hey, he won the Super Bowl? Oh, it's a rap. It's a rap. It's a rap. They got to come see him. They ain't got no choice.

Because I don't think, I don't think the rank. It's easy to say now, but the play called down there And when they had two cracks at the end zone, I'm sure Sean would like to have some of those calls back. It don't look like now the field goal would have done them any good. Puka was this close to getting out of bounds and having Stafford of a chance of a hell Mary. Hey, I'm confused.

He went out of bounds, purpose he with the ball. Why did the clock keep going in that situation? Because they said his butt was down before he went out. That's what they said. Okay. He said his butt went down before he went out. but this was an unbelievable game. What is what we thought it would be,

two division rivals, they're very familiar with each other. We were, what, was a couple of, you know, less than a month ago, maybe a month ago, these two teams played, and it was up and down. It was a very similar game, just like this.

I think Stafford had over 400 yards passing, but Seattle made the plays, the two-point conversion and so forth and so on, and they ended up winning in overtime when they went for two. And Mike McDonald, in only the third year has this team in the Super Bowl. That's crazy.

And listen, I know we talk about the coaches and the coaches having, you know, players in the Super Bowl, but what people also have to understand is he just happened to be the coach for the Seattle Seahawks and he has the right players. He has the right personnel to make it chances of getting to where he's going much easier. So without the personnel, without the players, without, you know, the right people, right foundation.

It all starts with a quarterback. I had the right quarterback. And if you don't have a quarterback, then you have to have a stellar defense. Hey, he just happened to have a motherfucker. God, he just happened to have both. A good quarterback in the right situation with a very, very, very good defense

that needs their own identity outside of the Legion of Boone. I mean, and he came into a great situation. They had great peace. Yes. I mean, you know, I think Woolen was there. I think they might have drafted spoon the next year. They get even, uh, uh, uh, uh, Iman Worry.

They get him. They get D-Law and Free Agency. They make the trade for Leonard Williams. They get Ernest Jones IV. I mean, you look at the pieces and how they kind of put this thing together, Ocho. And, you know, they had D.K. They let D.K. go. They got J.S.N.

They make the mid-season trade. One of the best mid-season trade that's going unnoticed is Rashid, who's been playing unbelievable football. Hey. You know, in Free Agency, you go inside and free. You go get Sam Brown. Go ahead, Ocho. I was going to say, before you keep going,

Rashid and he didn't win them about two games, don't. He didn't win them about two games, but go ahead. And so you look at the pieces, kind of how they put this thing together. Mike McDonald and John Snyder has done an unbelievable job because we know Snyder can look. You look at what he did,

how he assembled his team. And from Russell Wilson to Richard Sherman to Bobby Wagner to Smith and, you know, all those guys that they had that make the trade for Beast Mode. they, they, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, they, he knows what he's doing. And they put this team together. They got a young team.

Now, I think Wollin is up. They're probably going to lose Wolling. You think so? You don't think they're bringing back? And he'll, what, what year is it? I think he'll fourth year guy, Ocho. I think, yeah. What you're going to do with Spoon?

Well, Spoon got two more, don't he or he got one more. He just finished his third. And you, you know what corners are going for? You saw what a Salt Gardner just got. Okay, food, like, come see me. Yeah. You either go have to, you'll have to, he's not going to, you'll either have to pay him or trade him.

You can't, you can't keep both, huh? And Sam Donald will say, you got to do something with Sam Donald. Right. I'm thinking, hey, what, what are going to be? Because he won't get a nice bag. Even Worry is coming up soon. He's in his first year. two years, you're going to have

$300 million dollar corner defensive players on your team, and you got Big Leonard Williams. Oh, I forgot about JSA. What about JSA next year? Oh, oh, wait, hold on. He got to be one more before you get team like that. That'll be year three.

Okay. Damn, that's crazy. You hope that. That's what you want, Ocho. When you draft the player, man, I hope he performs. They perform. But the problem is that when they perform, you've got to pay him,

you can't pay everybody. You can't play Wholen. You can't pay JSCN. You can't pay Spoon. You can't pay Eminuar. You can't pay Sam Dara. Market price. Now, they might be willing to give you a hometown discount.

It all depends on who their age and you. No, no, no, no, no, no. Probably not. Ain't nobody get, ain't nobody get no discount. Probably not. I was just throwing that out there. Probably not. But I'm just saying, especially not my first contract.

Now, maybe the second one, I thought it made me, you know, made me some big bucks, no whamies. I might consider it. But it's not even the top of my... When DeMarcus Lawrence joined the Seattle Seahawks after leaving the Cowboys, he said Dallas would always be his home, but he knew he would never win a Super Bowl there.

He's headed to the Super Bowl for the first time in his career with the Seattle Seahawks. Damn. Hey, and Matt, I know we're not on top of the Cowboys. They're not in the playoffs. But, well, we got some hell of a pushback on our comments and comments.

about the defense coordinator coming in for the Cowboys, and then people, they jump down my throat, talk about, oh, don't you think things are going to change? No. I mean, I'm confused. After 30 plus years of the same thing, and thinking just because you bring someone anew that something's going to change differently, I'm confused.

How about this, I do you want like this, oh, Cho? The New England Pages have been to 11 Super Bowls since the Cowboys been to their last one. Could I interest you in that? Okay. that that's enough needs to say i i wanted i wanted to fire back and engage in the in the conversation but like i'm not a hater of the cowboys i was just stating facts based on what i've seen over the years uh since i was playing and since i've been going from the game and i'm not sure with the

confusion lies or or the delusional of those that really don't understand the the makeup of of how it's going this far but anyway that's enough of that and the thing is is that up until the last game of the season, Matt Stafford has done a great job. He had never lost until that one game that he lost to the Seahawks and now this is back-to-back games in which he's lost to the Seahawks. But he can't, I mean, you can't play. You're 22 or 35, 3, 74, 3 touchdowns.

I don't know what, I mean, what else you want him to do? No, you can't. And, you know, if they don't muff, if they don't muff that fumble, you know, on that, on that one. He's 50-Ocho in two games, in the last two games against the Seahawks. He's 51 of 84, 831, 6 TDs, but he's lost both games. Jesus. So I don't know what else he can do. I mean, there's nothing else you can do because you're playing against another great

offense on the other side of you as well, a quarterback that is also dealing at the efficiency that you are as well. Another team that had JSC that has receivers that match up just as well as yours, I mean, as well. So sometime to come to a mistake, you're a mistake. there, you know, a defense to stop here, a defense to stop there, and you say it all the time. And those that are you in the chat that are watching the game is you watch a game for three

hours, right? You know, you enjoy it and your team runs maybe 60, 65, maybe 70 plays. Out of all those plays that each team runs is about three plays that change, three or five plays that change the trajectory of a game. And that's what wins it for you. Three or five, that's it. Out of three, out of watching a game. out of a hundred and between the two teams,

let's just say, oh, Joe, they have 120 plays. It's probably five plays, five to seven plays between the two teams that you can go back and say, okay, this is where we wanted or we lost. This is why we want. But congratulations goes out to the Seattle Seahawks. They are the representative from the NFC.

They're headed to Super Bowl 60 and a rematch of Super Bowl 49 with the thanks to a score of 31 to 27 over the Rams, a division rival, Sam Donald again was 25 or 36, 3.46, 3 touchdowns. He had no interceptions. They ran the ball 26 times for 76 yards, one touchdown. JSN was sensational as he's been all year.

10 catches, a buck 53, one touchdown on 12 targets. So the Seattle Seahawks, your Seattle Seahawks and the 12th man are going to San Francisco for a chance to win their second Super Bowl. Take your time, ma'am. to the Super Bowl by the United the Broncos and a snowstorm by the score of 10 to 7. After a seven-year drought, the Patriots are headed back to the Super Bowl.

New England are one-win away from their seventh NFL title. If they're 12th appearance in the Super Bowl, four more than the next closest franchise, which happens to be, I thank us, isn't it? John's been to five, Peyton went to two, and Craig Morton went to one. Wait, hey, we're not worried about who went to what. I know who's not going this year.

But we don't care who went to what. I know who not. Matter of fact, hold on before we finish. Hold on, hold on, hold on. Man, here he'd go with some bulljack. Come on back, man. You ain't his show business. Man, what is this man doing?

The Patriots beat the Broncos by the score of 10 to 7, Drake May 10 of 21. I thought you had that jersey. I thought you had that jersey. I was lying. Hey, hey, don't you say foot or ball tonight. I don't want you to say play off. I don't want you to say super up-ball.

Hey, Chad, y'all hear that? Y'all hear. Man, I ain't got that jersey. That jersey don't mean nothing to me. Don't do me a favor. Hey, hey, hey, hey, say Cancun on three. Cancun on three. Man, we, man, I'm hurting that, Ocho.

Don't do that. Don't do that, Ocho. Hey, no, listen. Hey, they go, they're going to the Super Bowl. I just happen to have a jersey from when I played there. I ain't really do much there, which is why I don't really claim. You got to play. So clearly it means something.

Huh? Oh, no, it means something because, no, I ain't framed this. Somebody took it in a frame, they gave it to me as a gift. So I kept it. I was like, well, what you sent me that for? I ain't do nothing while I was there. And so we used a part of the jersey. You won the Super Bowl, I bet you.

Exactly, because you got it framed. Hey, hey, yeah, but that's me, though. That's me right there. The New England is winning by the score of 10 to 7. Drake made with 10 or 21, 86 yards. they ran the ball 25, 38 times for a buck 41. They had less than 200 yards of offense. It was a, look, both teams had to play in that weather.

I don't want to, I'm not going to blame it on the, on the elements because it wasn't like the Patriots were playing in a dome and the Broncos were playing outside. But I will say this. I think Sean Payton started. to believe his own supply that Jared Stidham could win him the game. Because if Sean Payton is as smart as I think he is, he looks at that weather forecast and say there's going to be a storm moving in

the second half. Points are going to be at a premium. Now, we talk about this all the time, Muncho. We say when you have the momentum, how much separation can you put between you and the team that you have the momentum of? Yes. They had all the momentum and all they had was a seven-point lead. one mistake by Stidham,

and all of a sudden it's a 7-7 ball game. Now you've got to fight. Okay, they get a field goal. It's 10-7. And the Broncos get the ball, I said, and I tweeted, I said, this is the Broncos best chance. They had them backed up.

The guy shanked the ball. They get the ball at the 35-yard line. And they can come away with nothing. Now, it's been reported now that Lutz, Will Lutz, said that he might have been too close because they couldn't tell the distance between, you know, where the yard line was because you're supposed to be like seven yards back

and it was shorter and the guy got a tip, got it tip, and he got blocked. But I don't know why everybody was so confident and stood him. He was in New England. He was supposed to be Tom Brady's backup. I mean, air apparent, that didn't happen. He goes to the Raiders.

That's a prime opportunity. As a matter of fact, wasn't he there with Josh McDaniel? So the guy that drafted him. Josh McDane, when he had him in New England, he had him in New England. Yeah. Had him in the Raiders. Couldn't get nothing out of it.

And I think Sean Payton started to bleed that. He started to convince himself because remember, Ocho, I told you, my coach used to tell us all the time. Sometimes he got a lie to him, son. He lied, not only did he lie to them, but he lied to himself because that's the only way I can explain him not taking the three points and making it 10-0-0. Go ahead, Ocho.

I mean, he had no choice but it lied to himself. He had a lie. he had to lie to the media during the week. He had to lie to himself and lied to his actually player to give him the confidence that you can do this. Obviously, they didn't get blown out. They didn't get blown out. We needed you just to do just that big.

Well, you took the words right out of my mouth. You took the words right out of my mouth. And what they needed to do is before that storm came in, we need to get as many points as possible, whether it's six, whether it's seven, whether it's three, and extend the lead as much as possible before the storm comes in. Because if you look at the day

Drake May had the day, because of the conditions, because of the elements, even though as a player you have to adapt to whatever comes your way, it was not in the favor of the Patriots at all. Stidham had, what,

did he even have over a hundred yards? He was 17 and 31 for 133. Remember he had that 52 yard like the second player of the game, the Marvin Mims. Yeah, I mean, Drake made. He was 10 of 21 for 86 yards.

86. And he had a long of 31. Yeah, he hasn't had a stat line like that. That's the stat line for offensive series for Stittam. I mean, for Drake May, the way they played offensive this season. And another thing that we need to talk about, I know we had conversations throughout the season. For those in the chat,

some of you, we talked about the MVP for the NFL this year. Many people said Matt Stafford, obviously Patriot fans are those who have watched the second-year player and Drake May. some said Drake May deserves it. And after what he's done and completing this season and getting the Patriots to a Super Bowl and only a second year with Mike Brable's first year, now think about some of the team that Drake May had to beat to even get to the Super Bowl,

to even be at this point. Three of the top defenses in the NFL, huh? Drake May, he had to be the charging defense, huh? You had to be the charge of him. Hell, he had to deal with God damn DeNehler and Will Anderson and that goddamn Houston defense, which is phenomenal. And then obviously today, tonight or earlier today, the Broncos, who were the number two defense at NFL statistically, and being able to beat those teams back to back, the back, the back, obviously, man, is a tremendous feat in a sense for a quarterback that's in his second year alone. Sometimes you have veteran quarterbacks that stumble when it comes to playing top defenses like he did, you know, three weeks in a row.

Yeah, I just think the thing is, and Ocho, that, you know, a game like this here, you know, Sean, has to know. Sean knows, okay, you can lie to them, but you can't lie to yourself. Yeah. And he lied to himself. He convinced himself that, you know, we got the momentum. Let's go for it. But look, even if you go for it, I didn't, I don't necessarily have a problem that going

for it on fourth time, I got a problem with the play selection. Because you just scored on that, you scored on that plate. Where you half rolled it and you hit Scort and Sutton in the back in the end zone. So the one thing you know about the Patriots, especially when they got a very good coach, you're not going to beat him on the same plate twice. Yeah, no. And you're rolling into the short side of the field. And you're rolling with the guy that ain't got no wheels.

He can't run. But, Unk, you got to understand. What do you want Sean Payton to do? You understand, you understand the limitation that your quarterback has. You understand that the playbook, as if you had Bo Knicks, the playbook changes completely. The officer of play calling changes completely. The thing that you can't do instead of him, you can't do with Bo Nix.

You've only had a week. Ocho, I ain't got no noodles. So guess what? I can't make your pasta. So you ain't got to take that into consideration how you call plays. That's why the play, that's why he called the safest plays he could for the quarterback he had at his disposal. That is Bo, that is, that is Jared Stiddlem. He's a guy.

He's just a guy. There's nothing special. He has an average arm. He has no speed. He doesn't do anything that you says, you know what? He's a long-term solution. He's not,

he does not do anything really well. So, I mean, he gets in trouble. What does he do? He retreats. Bro, and I don't know where he got this, this shoveling this. I mean, how many times did we see, and it cost him.

We see him try to shove the ball to Harvard. We see him try to hover, shovel the ball to the running back. Bro, throw the ball out of bounds. You should not even admit that situation, but Sean Payton has to know. Jared Stiddleman is my quarterback. I'm in the AFC championship game.

I'm taking as many points as I can get. I'm not taking any points off the board, don't you? I'm not. And he's supposed to know. He's supposed to study the weather forecast. I guarantee you if Rable knew it, I guarantee you Belichick would have known it. Mike Shanahan, damn sure would have known it.

So if you know that weather is coming in, You take the points You got to You got to You got to And listen Not only take the points If you got a defense like you have

If you have a defense like you have You know the weather's coming in there Most of the time offensive You're not going to be able to do much Through the goddamn air And they damn show not from to run the ball On you First of all, Brunco's hadn't been able to run the ball all year

So what makes you think you're going to be able to run it In those conditions? I don't know Do guys wear seven studs anymore? Guys don't wear seven studs anymore duty No, not really. I don't even know if they have seven studs in the equipment room anymore

because everyone's field, most of the fields are Bermuda grass and if you don't have Bermuda grass, you have that turf. And no matter what the conditions are, no matter what the conditions are, the studs that they use now, you're not going to slip and fall.

Did you not see everybody slipping and falling? Oh yeah, I saw them today, but that, yeah, I saw them today, I think that was grass. Yeah, we got rid, that's what I'm saying. That's what I'm saying, like, yeah, it's some field turf, but we have, they have real grass with some cills.

synthetic zone in. Okay, okay, okay, yeah. Mims. In conditions like that, the goal ball is not going to be where it normally is. I'm surprised that, Ocho, after like 15 yards,

you got to look. The ball is not going to travel like it would. It's not going to be 42 and 4. Yeah, it's heavy. It's heavy. It's heavy. It's stuff like that, Ocho that just like,

bro. But this was on Sean. Hey, can I actually, can I ask you something? you mad? No, not really. You're not hurt. Because I knew this was going to be the outcome.

I tried to tell you, you told me, oh, you got to have faith. No, I don't got no faith in Jared Stiddleham. I mean, I would give you false hope. I knew y'all won't win. I could have told you that. You can't give me false hope? I mean, hey, listen, the fact, the fact that you even talking football, let alone, you shouldn't be able to say foot or ball.

You shouldn't be happy. The fact that you even, we engaged in this conversation and y'all lost tonight, I'm not even sure. Matter of fact, you know what, don't say play or off. Where are your Broncos helmet tonight? What happened to your Bronco robe? You were so happy, you were so excited. And y'all won last week?

I don't want to, what happened? Where's the energy you had? Come on, man. Oh, Joe. Boy, I'm just saying the boy, the Patriots put belt-a-hast. Oh, really? 10 to 7 is a belt-down. Yeah, yeah.

Hey, they gave that Michael Urban. That they gave that Michael Urban. Huh? What we talk about? But it's okay. It's okay because y'all still got next year Bo Nix will be back Most of the players on that defense will be back

But Ocho, y'all'll be all right But it's going to be a long time before that You never know You never know I was fortunate that we lost the heartbreaking game in 96 and then went back to back But Ocho you don't know I mean think about it

Dan Marino went to that Super Bowl in the second year and never went back again Nah it's hard Never went back You get guy you get like Joe Montana go to four and win. You get braided at gold.

You got Elway that went to five. You get Jim Kelly went to four straight. You get guys like my home. But Aaron Rogers went to one and never went back. Yeah. So it ain't no guarantee. Oh, you were so close. I mean, sometimes things just line up in your favor and you need to take advantage of it.

Man, look here. That better be glad. Can you imagine? and Patrick Mahon was in this thing again? Everything it lined up. I mean, all the heavy hitters are gone. We're gone. Yeah.

And you know what? The heavy hitters are gone. Most of them are gone because they didn't play with the season due to injury. Obviously, we saw what happened. Lamar. Well, look, Lamar doesn't really go out of the postseason. So we can't look at him as being impediment to somebody. They got the big guy.

Right, right, right. That guy in Kansas City, they didn't play well all year long. That is the hurdle that everybody in the AFC was having to get over. Not Lamar. And this is not a knock on Lamar. Lamar has been great in the regular season. He's a two-time league MVP. But Lamar Jackson has not looked like Lamar come post-season.

So he's really never been an impediment. He hadn't really stopped Joe Burrell or Mahomes or Josh Allen from getting to where they need to be. With that being said, with the Holmes out, Josh Allen got put out by the Broncos last week, and Joe Burrow didn't really have a chance because he got Nick early on. So when things, when the road open up, you got to travel on it.

You got to. You got to take advantage of it. Obviously, Buffalo wasn't able to do that. But the thing is, with all these quarterbacks that we are talking about, and you talk about the Joe Marino, I mean, Joe Marino, you talk about Dan Marino, you talk about Dan Marino, getting there one time,

The difference I think about today's game with all these teams that have those elite quarterbacks, I think those teams will always be in contention every year. Those teams will always have a chance to go no matter what, even though they fail short this year. Lamar failed short this year. Was Greenbake not in contention every year? How many times did Aaron Rogers losing? He lost an LUC championship game to Seattle. He lost to the 49ers twice.

He lost to Tampa. So he was in contention. Did he get back? No. I know, but I'm just the possibility. You know, the sense of if you're a fan of those specific teams, you just know at least we have a chance. There are some teams, Unk, there are some fans.

No matter what, going into a new season, you know damn well, you don't even have a chance. I think it hurts more the closer you get, Ocho. But listen, but I think it's even worse to know I'm going into the season, you don't have a chance. If you're a Cardinals fan, well, hell, you know when you're going to see the postseason. You might have booked your goddamn ticket in January

to go back home. If you're a Raiders fan, I mean, what the hell? What you expect? If you're a Vikings fan, hell, you don't have a goddamn quarterback right now. What, what you're going to do? I mean, there are a few other teams as well. I think the bills, the Bills, the Seahawks, the Rams, the Ravens, the Bengals, the Bengals, if we can keep Joe Burrow upright, some of the teams with the better quarterback play,

the Texans because of their defense. I know I'm probably leaving some teams off all these teams. teams will continuously always be in contentioned, whether they win and lose in the postseason or whether they make it to the Super Bowl, they will have a chance to make it to the playoffs and contend. Some teams can't even be afforded that opportunity. Yeah, I think the thing is, I think what has the Bronco fans so upset is that Sean Peyton knew this quarterback was limited. And he had an opportunity to take a chip-shot field goal, 10-0. 10-0 gives you momentum. You make it seem like,

like if you got that first down, it's not like if you got the first, it was a touchdown. I can see if you went forward and they stopped. You still had to get more plays. So 10-0-0, the way you had been dominating, I think they had one first down, maybe ran like seven plays up until that point, oh, Joe.

So 10 points might have felt like 14, based on how you had dominated them defensively. But the one thing, all that being said, the one thing that he couldn't do is what he did, is turn the ball over in negative territory. It's all over. And that's- Change the game right now.

You know that, you know, young, that's what lost the game. You know that, huh? You know, of all the plays they ran, nothing else mattered except that goddamn turnover. That's all it came down to, you know? So, I mean, it's unfortunate. I know you feel bad.

I don't mean a pile on you like this. No, it's okay. You know, I'm a realist. See, the thing is, if I'd have had both Nixon out of loss, I might have been, I might have been tearing some stuff down. I ain't only like to you, Cho. If we'd have had Bowen lost, yeah, I'd have been upset.

But having Jared Stenham, because I didn't expect to win. Right. That didn't. Yeah, I mean, yeah, man, it sucks, it sucks. You think the boys got his flight for Cancun already? No, because I think, you know what you know, I think sometimes, I think Sean had lied to them so well. They had convinced themselves because I heard a decent.

or we can win with Stitty, we can win the Super Bowl with Stitty. If the other team don't show up, y'all can win. But if they show up, y'all not win with Stitty. Let's be real. I'm a realist. And everybody knows I'm Bronco Country through and through. But I'm a realist also. Jared Stiddleman ain't winning you no big game.

But hold on. Now, you know you could rely on your defense and still with a game. Yeah, if you get a scoop in a school, if you get a pick six or you create a, you know, something. like that or a negative, you know, you strip sack and you give them a short field. All they got to do, you know, you know your chances of winning the Super Bowl, even with him, we're still great. No, they weren't, Ocho.

Don't turn the ball open. Because all you're going to do. Let's say, you take the elements from the day out of it. The game is the even game, Ocho. You take the elements out of it today. You can't, Ocho, because he, because Drake May played in that. It wasn't like Drake May was in a phone booth or in a dome. He played in the same conditions that Jared Sted him.

The only difference is Drake May took better care of the football. And the one thing that the Broncos couldn't do based on that was turn the football over, especially in negative territory. You basically gifted them seven points. And like I said, Sean has to know who his quarterback is. He has to know the weather conditions are going to change. He had to have known that. So why do you have all these

These analytic people You have that on your staff And so for Sean To forego those three points Like I said, I'd have called time out To really assess What do I really do? I mean, damn, I do got

I don't have both Points that are at a premium here 10 points are going to seem like a lot And if long as we don't As long as we don't turn it over Because if we turn it over Ocho, it's a tie ball game. Yeah.

It's not like a situation if we turn it over, we still got the lead. You turn it over, it's a tie ball game. You got a 7-0-0 with a chance to go up 10-0 with a backup quarterback in your building and the weather is going to get progressively worse.

Yeah. What made it worse, Ocho? Yes, everybody's going to look and say, Sean Payton got to know better than the four-go-three, but his quarterback didn't help him by turning it over. Right. If you forego to three and he doesn't turn it over,

you say, hey, if they drive the length of the field against this defense, don't you? I mean, I don't know what you want me to do, Ocho. I really don't. Because we got one of the two or three best defenses in all football. We can pressure the quarterback. But I thought Drake may use his legs a lot because he was jumping out to win a lot

and scrambling for first downs. And on the last play, again, see, he won't do its responsibilities. 52 got contained. Man, where are you? Must be done going on. Ocho, you got contained. Why are you trying to get inside? That's not your play to make.

Trying to make a play. No, we don't need to see. You see, if I get beat doing my job, I got beat doing my job. I can't get beat trying to do somebody else's job. That's a job, yeah I call it playing hero ball playing hero ball trying to do two things at once

oh man I know Broncos fans I'm sorry man I love y'all I've been very supportive you all season long I thought I'm going to be able to put my sharp jersey on oh he had a little jersey You got a little jersey

Got 84 got real stitches Just like the official jerseys Yeah Well he's gonna have to hold off to next year. I ain't putting it on now. You're going to have to hold off to the next year a little buddy.

Ah, man. Don't worry about it. They beat the one, the number one, the number two, and the number five defense. If, if they win,

I think Seattle has the number three defense. See, number six? So that'd be a hell of a road. The few points scored in the Wild Card, division, and conference championship game

in route to a Super Bowl. Y'all talk about the 2000 Ravens, we score more points than the 25 Patriots, even if it's only seven. But look, Mike Brable, this is why you make the move. People are like, oh, man, Jerry Mel, they don't get a bro. This is why you make this move.

But the difference is Josh McDaniels. I don't know why Josh McDaniels can't be a great head coach. I don't know why he can't be a good head coach, but he's a great offensive play caller. That's his calling. Yeah. It's calling to dialing up offense. That's his calling on, Joe.

He's never going to be a good coach. He's never going to be a good head coach. But as an offensive coordinator. Yeah, he's beautiful. He's beautiful. I'm trying to understand last year, I mean, it's a linebacker, man. It's a linebacker from last year that coached that coached.

I played with him too. Yeah, Mr. Mayo, brother, brother Mayo. What is the difference in the team that Gerard Mayo had that went four and 13 as opposed to the difference in what Mike Brayble had to work with with this team this year. You're calling the plays.

Quarterback playing even better. They bring Diggs in. Boutet played better. Ramadre Stevenson and Henderson ran the ball extremely well. But the defense, they brought Chasin in. They brought Harold Landry in.

They bought Milton Williams in. Okay. They got Spleene in. They brought Spillin in. They're a better football team. They're a better football team player. player personnel wise. They're better football team, coach wise.

Just coming like it is. Yeah. It's okay. I like me on. I wish you success. But they had back to back years in which they won four games. And guess what, Ocho? They're going to the Super Bowl this year.

That's crazy. This is Rabel's first year. You realize that, right? This is his first year. And to take a team the first year, you're the head coach, with a second year quarterback who is still going through the growing pains who still hasn't seen that much football at that level and he's beat two of the best defenses in the NFL like it like like like it's nothing

I mean it is something it means something I'm just saying the fact that dude and he's almost almost done it mistake free defense carried this wrong no show the the Patriots defense have given up 26 points and three playoff games three you know what I mean the Ravens gave up and four? How many? Three to the Broncos, 10 to the Titans, three to the Raiders.

They didn't give up any. So theoretically, Ocho, they gave up 16 points in four games because the seven that they gave up was a kick return. They gave up 16 points in four games. You know what I... You know what's funny?

I don't think people, especially people that are of younger age right now, I don't think they understand how dominant. I don't think they understand how dominant that defense was. There was no weakness at any level. Was it the first, second or third level, the back end was phenomenal. Now, obviously, the second level was phenomenal,

and that front end was hell to deal with. And then we talk about damn near elite players, damn near elite players at every position. And those positions that weren't elite, they were very, very, very good. Very good. I mean, we couldn't run the football on us. I mean, we were very simple with his play cover too, but you couldn't run with Sam and Goose rescue.

So you couldn't run the football. No, and you couldn't get y'all out of cover, too, because you couldn't run the game football. Or we might play some Tampa to have Ray run down the hole, but you couldn't run it on. And if you couldn't run it now, now, but you got to look at what we had. We had a defensive rookie in the year, Peter Bowler. I mean, Rod was in the second day. We had Ray was defensive player of the year that year. I mean, they were loaded.

That defense was really, really good. And they had rotational Pellate, J.L.A. and Keith Washington and Powell. I mean, they could just run. New England's offense averaging 15.7 points per game, 4.4 yards of play. 13 of 43. The defense is allowed 8.7, 3.3 yards per play, 12 or 31 on third down. And they had eight takeaways with one score. And then, oh, but also, you know what, that 2000 defense wouldn't be able to play in today's game with the way the rules are.

They wouldn't be able to attack the quarterback. They wouldn't be able to play it. Everybody, everybody on that defense would either get fined or suspended. One of the other. So they wouldn't be able to play in today's game. And now that we know the Super Bowl matchup, chat, I'm just curious. And don't be biased. Who you got, Super Bowl?

Seahawks. If you may be picked right now, I will say the Seahawks. Hawks. But. Why? Because of the offense? Have you seen the Seahawks defense? I mean, well, obviously that, that too, but.

And that's secondary. It's nice. And they can pressure the quarterback with Leonard Williams and D. Law and those guys, they can get out there. But the question is, can he avoid the turnover one more game? Yeah. The Patriots have feasted on opposing teams' turnovers. Turning the ball over.

Yeah. Yeah, I'm excited. I mean, from my offensive standpoint, I would get the upside, obviously, to the Seahawks offensively. Obviously, Stefan Diggs and Boutte and Brother Matt Collins have played phenomenal all year, but I think they're a little bit more explosive offensively for the Seahawks. From the defensive side of the ball, we know what the Seahawks are, but the goddamn Patriots defense is just as good. Maybe not with all the notable names. not very many, I hate using the word household name.

I hate saying that. They play well collectively as a group, very, very well collectively. Very, very well, collectively. And they're well coach, and they're very disciplined. So I'm excited. I'm excited to see who's going to win. I don't know who's going to win. But if I had to take someone, I'm just giving a slight edge to the Seahawks

because of the explosiveness that they have on defense with JSA. Good luck. I don't know who's going to cover him in the slot. Cover who? Yeah. In the slot? Hell, hold on. You're talking about in the slot.

Who won't cover him out of the back field? Who won't cover him on the outside? I mean, obviously Christian Gonzalez, but they're, he don't want none of that. Not in the slot. Not in the slot.

Not in the slot. I mean, but normally, normally what Bill Belichick does and what Brable does, is that they take away your best. Take your best. Yep.

And somebody else is going to have to beat me. Yeah. Somebody's going to have to beat me. I'm trying to think. And so I know everybody, the line, what is Seattle lopeed up as? They're probably what, three, four, four point faves? Yeah, three and a half. So I'm not surprised they opened up as a three and a half point favorite.

Yeah, it's going to be a good one. Drake Maygoe had to put the boys on his back. Drake got to put the boys in his back. I think for me, Ocho is that in the Broncos, they're receiving, I mean, guys, you got, I understand the weather is bad, but you got to make plays. Yeah.

Corlin Sutton drops too many passes. Drop two minutes. Little Jordan Humphrey, you get those opportunities. You got to come down with the ball. It's really that simple. In a situation like this, Ocho, you've got to help this quarterback, this same bow.

You don't have the ability to come back. So every possession matter, Every plays matter. Matter. Matter, yeah. Drake May has three playoff wins in three playoff games. And on the second year.

Hey, that's crazy. What do you call them has? I think what you call them has what? Three, two, four. How many does Joe Burrow has? Joe Burrow has four. Lamar has three. Burrow has five.

Lamar has three. How many does it Josh have? Hell, he don't pass that. Dad got two. Josh, I have seven. This is why the Patriots let go, Gerard Mayo. It's been a magical run for Mike Grable in his first season with the Patriots. He inherited a franchise that had won four games in 23 and in 24.

Now they are the AFC champs once again with a 17 and 3 record this season, including the playoffs. That's crazy, man. That's dope. That's dope. That's dope. I mean, I was trying to put my finger on it, too, Unk. That's why I asked you when we first started this segment, I mean, what is the difference?

I mean, what is the personnel, the players that came in that just made a complete difference in what they looked like the previous year? John McNeil called and plays. Yeah, but, I mean, it's just the play call and take you from four and 13 of the 14 and 3? I think there are some philosophical differences between Mike Brable and Gerard Mayo. Gerard Mayo seems Excuse me

Mike Brable You see how he waits on everybody hugs everybody He's slapping five He gave everybody credit That's yeah Girard Mayo had more of a Belichick style Mike Brable has his own style

He always has And so when I look at it Guys sincerely You hear guys say Bill was the coach But we played for Tom Guys said we play for Mike I can see that

Hey he'll play as coach Yes Hey, Milton Williams told me out there, hey, he'd be out there in the drills. Milton Williams said, they're staying overnight in Denver. Said Brable told him no curfew, but the bus leaving it at eight.

And if you're not on the bus, you're not playing in the bowl. Ooh. Belichick would have had to ask on that plane head straight back to Boxborough. Hey, straight, straight back home. But you know, they probably can't even fly out because of the weather.

They inclement weather. But congratulations to the New England Patriots. They're back home. So it looked like the Patriot Invitational. They win by the score of 10 to 7 over the Denver Broncos. They go to the Super Bowl. Super Bowl 60 will be a rematch of Super Bowl 49. I don't think.

Super Bowl 60. I don't think, Ocho. If they get the ball in the one yard line, they're going to throw a pass. I think Kenneth Walker might get that ball. Absolutely. Louis boy. Hey, he's an animal, boy. He's an animal. Mike Brable, best it to the team,

pledging the ticket to the Super Bowl. No curfew tonight. The buses are leaving at 8 in the morning. So if you ain't on it, you ain't playing in the bowl. Brable spoke on the field about the possibility being the first former player and current head coach, the same Super Bowl. I won't win it.

It'll be the players that will win the game. I promise you. It won't be me that will win it. I promise you that. I'll do everything I can. and our staff to have them ready for the game. Yes, coaches make a difference. Coaches make a difference.

Yeah. Make a difference. They do. They just do. Yeah, you got to have good players. But we've seen teams that have good players. Right. And one coach can't get them over the hump, and another coach comes in, and he can.

And it's okay. It happens. Just like some players perform better under some coaches than others. That's okay. Okay. Damn. What? Y'all was one game away, what?

Dang. Seems like a lifetime, Ocho. Yeah, yeah. And the thing is, Ocho, is that when you like this, think about how many times they came from behind. The likelihood of you coming from behind like that next year, it's slimmed enough. Remember Kansas City? All those games, they won the previous year by coming from behind.

They lost damn to all of them this year in one score game. All the one score games, yep. Show did. So I think the thing, the way they practice, I think the thing, the way they meet, the way you hold them accountable. I think it's, you know, some of the things,

if that you listen to Ray Gerard Mell was saying, hey, it's on the coach, it's on the players. All we can do. Yeah. Brave was like, look, we got to do a better job of putting them in place

in position to make plays. Sometimes it's just as simple as that. Sometimes it's tone, sometimes it's voice inflection. You never know what resonates with a player, but is your job, as a head coach to know what button to push on each individual 53 players.

Do you pat him on the back? Do you put your foot in his tail? Do you say congratulations? Do you yell? Do you scream? Because every player has a different stimuli to get them to form at their best. It's your job as a coach to figure it out.

Your job as a coach to get each player to go further than he thought he could on his own. I think Mike Brable does a great job with that. I like to play for a guy like Brable. I played against him when he was in the league. And I told him, he was solid, he was a solid player. He was where he was supposed to be. If he was supposed to be in the flat, he was there.

If he was supposed to be in the hook, he's supposed to be in the hook, he's supposed to be to be carried a tight enough to scene, he was there. If he's supposed to set the edge, he was setting the edge and you weren't getting it. You weren't hokeyed him. Mm-hmm. Yeah, I played it again for April one time when I was in Cincinnati earlier. Early, I forgot we get that. Ocho, Nick Benito say he's sick that they lost the Patriots because Denver is the better team.

We're definitely the better team. Ocho, do you like Benito say? this after losing. Yeah, you can say that. I mean, that's how you feel. And he wholeheartedly feels that. I feel like we're the better team. And sometimes you go in games and sometimes do things in life,unk,

and you lose the people that you feel inferior to you. And it happens. It happens. Nick Benito knows why they lost. He just can't say it. You can't throw anybody down to the bus. You know, you guys might be the better team all around in certain areas. But not today.

It comes down to one game. This is not a basketball series where you got more. multiple chances to try to win the game. It's who was the better team on that specific day. Now, you might be the better team, you know, mentally in your mind coming into the game. You're probably the better team. But you lost the day. You won the better team today.

I don't have to be the better. I don't have to be the better team. See, and that's the thing what people love so much about football. Because beating somebody four times or beating somebody three out of five, that's unimportant to me in football. Because every game was a game seven once you get to the playoffs. So with that being said, the Patriots were the better team that day, today. And that's all that matter, today.

Now, if they play tomorrow, could the Patriots win? Maybe, maybe not. But we'll never know because they don't need to win. They didn't need to win Saturday. They didn't need to win Monday. They needed to win today. And they won today. So it's always tough when you lose a ballgame like that.

Yeah. But I don't know, like he said, he knows he can't. Hold on, Ojoo, if you saw. Hey, you know what I just thought about? I'm wearing an Arsenal shirt, right? And Arsenal played Man United today, and Arsenal lost the Man United. So therefore, I'm wearing a loser.

I'm wearing a team who's, you know, let me change shirts. Hold on. Ocho, what do you call it? This is JSC's third year. JSA ain't going to maybe want to get back to the table. So, hold up. For y'all break up, what do you call them out? Let me get a little something.

Yeah, he just finished the third year. He had 100 catches last year. Yeah, for real? Hey, Nick, I know it's tough, bro. I know it's tough. Drake May 17, Sam Donald 16, have combined 33 wins and starting quarterbacks in this season, including regular season and playoffs.

That's the most combined wins by the two starting quarterbacks entering a Super Bowl in NFL history. Yeah. Because I think, I think John and Chris, I think we had with 16 and 2. And what was the, what was the, what was the, uh, what was the, uh, we finished them in the Super Bowl?

Because I know we were, we won 14 games. We won two, uh, because we were home. So we were 16. And what was the Falcons record going into the game? Falcons might have had to win. How many games did they win that year? So they should have been 17 and 16 too. So they won 14 regular season games, right?

And then three postseason games. Because they were not, what you call them? was the one seed. Oh, it used to be two first-round buys, though. That's why. So it was 16 and 16, 32. Yeah. Yeah, yeah, yeah.

I was like, hold on. Yeah, it used to be two first round buys. But Drake May 17 wins, San Bernardos, 16 wins, have combined 33 wins, starting quarterbacks, when you consider the regular season and postseason, Ocho. Most combined ever by two quarterbacks starting in the NFL. in the Super Bowl. J.S.N is the fifth player

with 10 reception, 150 receiving yards, and a touchdown in a conference championship game. Julio Jones did it in 2012. Pierre Garsohn did it in 2009. I hear you did it in 2000 with the Giants and Playmaker did it in 1994 with the Cowboys. J.J. Watt tweeted, Mike Brable in his first year with New England.

Mike McDonald's second year in Seattle. Kirk Signetti's second year at Indiana. A whole lot of owners and the athletic director to look around and say, why can't we do that? Expectations of immediate results have never been higher. Hey, but hold on, huh?

All owners have to do is look at the foundation. Everything starts with having a goddamn quarterback first. It doesn't matter who you bring in. These coaches are coming to great situations where they have great pieces in certain places. And you build around those pieces. but the most important piece that you need to have success before you worry about any other position

unless you have a phenomenal defense is the quarterback position. In the Bronco shows you even with a phenomenal defense if you don't have that quarterback, you're not doing nothing. The Seahawks, excuse me, the Texans last week, if your quarterback plays like garbage, you're not doing anything. It's really that simple, Ocho.

let's not overcomplicated for the chat. We can have a quarterback, but if he plays bad, your defense is hard for your defense to overcome bad quarterback play like it could be years best.