Nightcap - Best of NFL Divisional Round Part 2: Ja’Quan McMillian breaks down game-sealing INT off Josh Allen

Episode Date: January 21, 2026

Shannon Sharpe and Chad “Ochocinco” Johnson are joined by Denver Broncos defensive back Ja’Quan McMillian following his game-sealing interception against Josh Allen and the Buffalo Bills. McMillian breaks down the controversial play in full detail, explains what he saw in the moment, and shares his perspective on whether the officials made the correct call in one of the most debated moments of the game. Subscribe to Nightcap presented by PrizePicks so you don’t miss out on any new drops! Download the PrizePicks app today and use code SHANNON to get $50 in lineups after you play your first $5 lineup! Visit https://prizepicks.onelink.me/LME0/NI... 0:00 - Broncos defeat Bills in OT46:57 - Ja'Quan McMillian joins to breakdown his interception (Timestamps may vary based on advertisements.) #ClubSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

I mean, I thought, you know what, let's go ahead and talk about this game. We'll come back to this. The Broncos beat the Bills in overtime. Head to the Lansing title game. Will Lutz made a 23-yard field goal to win in an overtime following two late-pillers to get Denver in the red zone. Bo Nix passed for 279 yards, three touchdowns. He did have one interception.

Josh Allen threw for 283, three touchdowns, but he had four of Buffalo's five turnovers. But the big news came after the game, Ocho, when Sean Payton took the post. Let's take a listen to what he had to say about this breaking news. Not good news. On the second to last playing overtime, Beau fractured a bone in his right ankle. He's scheduled to have surgery Tuesday of this week, which will put him out for the rest of the season. Stead he's ready to go.

And it was, yeah, it was the second to last play. before he threw the the pass to Mims. Birmingham is where he'll have the surgery with Dr. Waltrip, and I don't really think

there's any other questions. You know, in other words, this is just what it is, and we felt like it'd be best to just tell everyone now. Man, hey, that's... I mean, Ojo.

I mean, come on, that. Damn, boy, that's a buzzer look. I know, no, yeah, that's bad luck. Listen, second, second play, the second and last play before the game, you know, after playing the entirety of the game, I mean, that sucks, especially for Broncos fans. I'm sure, obviously losing your starting quarterback,

that changes everything, that changes the way your offense is called, that changes the way your offense is run. So now someone else has to step up. I'm not sure who is your backup. Yeah, get them. Started with the Patriots from Auburn. And then he went to the Raiders. Yes.

I remember Stidim. I remember Stidtum. He's not Bownecks. I think he is capable of maybe winning you a game. Obviously, listen to me, now I'm trying to get some hope. I'm trying to get some hope. That's a young lady's name.

That's a young lady's name. What, hope? So what, you ain't got no faith in still? Bro, we're going to face the Patriots or the Texans. A, vote two defensive dogs. Yes. And then if for some unforeseen reason, you get past them, there's a great chance you're going to play Seattle.

Ooh. I saw what Seattle. I saw what I was in New York when Seattle did that 43-8 demolition job on us. I'm good. Yeah. So basically, you want to start packing your stuff for Cancun now or what? I'm going to enjoy this. I get 24 hours to enjoy this.

Okay. You can't. Right. Right. Right. Right. Don't feel bad by the time. I don't feel bad.

He was elected in the fourth round of 2019 draft. Ocho, he's not his first season with the Broncos, serving as a backup to Knicks for two of those. Stidham is one and three of the NFL starter. He last started a game in 23 when he went one and one over the last two games of the regular season. Stidham has thrown eight touchdowns and eight interception in 20 NFL games.

The Broncos, they get the ball and they go right down the field. little John Humphrey, little Jordan Humphrey. Bro, he dropped it. He dropped a touchdown. Now, he came back and caught one in the second, though, Joe, but that's four points. Yeah.

The same play that I think, who was that, Kincaid, that caught a touchdown from the slot, run the fade from the slot. That's the same play, little Jordan Humphrey dropped. Cortland, bro, you're a pro bowler. You just signed an extension. You on the last, you drop two passes.

You dropped two. You got to have that. You're supposed to be their best, their best Y receiver. He is. You can't, you can't have those drops for Joe in that situation. Yeah, I mean, everything is magnified,

especially in the playoffs. You know, you don't get as big plays as you'd like, so the plays that you do get when the ball does come to you, they didn't go to court for a very long time. During the game, he wasn't in rhythm. He hadn't hit the, He's one of those that's not going to complain. He's not going to say anything.

He's going to run everything hard until the ball does come his way. So I kind of understand it, but he understands that he knows you can't have those drops. Those drop could have been costly. Obviously, it didn't cost you this game. But listen, the Broncos won a game. We need to talk about Josh Allen. Oh. We need to talk Josh Allen.

Four to five. He had four of their five turnovers. Yeah. I mean, two interceptions. Two fumble? The phone You got the ball What are he doing carrying the ball like that, Ocho?

Come on, come on, man. You know, he should know better than that. He couldn't eat and get your ass into the locker room. Yeah, he's fast, but he's not that fast to not think pursuit is right there to have the ball holding it like a low-forgotten damn bread. Like, this was supposed to be the bill's year. I said it multiple times because he didn't have to deal with Pat Mahomes,

his kryptonite. He didn't have to deal with Lamar Jackson. He didn't have to deal with Joe Burrow. And he's the best quarterback. He was the best quarterback remaining on the AFC. He's out. But there's nobody, he's better than C.J. Stroud. He's better than Drake May.

He was the best remaining quarterback in the AFC. And he gagged. Yeah. And I told you at the beginning of season. Buffalo, y'all need to have some questions about Sean McDermott. Whoa, wait. We can't, we can't blame McDermen. We can't blame McDermen after that performance by 17.

What about the previous six games when Josh and didn't have any turnovers and you still lost. Okay, talk to me now. I mean, at least John Harbaugh, he got to a pro, he got to a Super Bowl and won it. Mike Tomlin got to two one one. I mean, we got to have some conversation. It's just not good. Oh, Joe, you had the best quarterback.

You were the only one that had an MVP quarterback. As a matter of fact, nobody else had an MVP quarterback in the post. season. You're the only one. Hey, he put up a stinker. Yeah. And I'm trying to figure out the way you're running the football. Why you got Josh Allen throwing them all 39 times? James Cook got 24 carries for a buck 17. He's averaging basically four, five yards of carry.

Josh Allen got averaging five and a half yards of carry. And you throwing the ball. So I got a question. you think it's time for a new voice over there I think they're going to have a serious discussion I think the Pagulas are going to have a serious discussion with themselves. They got to ask themselves some some questions because are you

I mean think about it, Ocho. Are you closer? Are you closer? Remember, you got to the FC championship game last year. They put all this technology in to make sure because, oh, he got it. No, he didn't get it. Now they got this technology. When everything removed, when they had removed the hedge from around

you for you to go, there's no Pat Mahon. You don't have to go to Kansas City. You don't have to deal with Burroughs. You didn't have to deal with Lamar. Although you beat Lamar. But those are guys that are, Lamar, the two-time MVP. Joe Burroughs,

going to your building and beat you. He's going to Pat Mahon's building and beat him. He was, you know, a couple of plays away from winning a Super Bowl. He's removed. The guy that's gone to five Super Bowels, one three in the MVP, league MVP, he's gone.

And the guy in his second year, what are we doing here? The funny thing about it, if there was a year for Buffalo to make it to the Super Bowl, this was it. This was it. So I don't understand what happened in the game like the day. You need Josh Allen to be what we most of it we call him.

We give him that moniker as being Superman because he does level. with more. I mean, he does more with less. This is the game. He put up a sinker. He played bad. There's no if and's butts about it. How about this, Ocho? Bought, uh, bills in the postseason under Sean McDermott. Lost a wild card game to Houston. Lost the championship in the championship game to KC. Lost the divisional to KC. Lost the divisional to Cincinnati. Lost the divisional to KC. Lost the championship to KC. Lost the divisional to Denver.

You think about some of those turnovers on? You think about, you think about somebody. I'm like, well, who was that? Now, but you think about some of those terms on? I think the game changed it

because some of those are points. Yeah, for sure. Some of those are points and it takes away your opportunity, your chances to win a game of this magnitude

where points at a premium. Every series counts. Every time we have the ball, it counts. And the fact that they only lost by three with five turnovers let you know that the opportunity slip right between their fingers.

Oh, Cho. All you got to do is take a knee, going at the half. Now you're kicking instead of tie the game to going overtime, you're kicking the game to win it. Come on, man. Sometimes you can be too cute. Sometimes you can get greedy. They got greedy. We got Josh Allen. We got two timeouts. Let's see what we can do. He didn't protect the ball.

Benito did a great job stripping from behind. Then Benito did another job. He hit him in his back. He fumbled that ball. Denver should have put that game away early. Because when Benito hit him in his back, they got the ball at the 19 yard line. You get two yards.

I thought Sean called the game conservative at that point. No, I'm going for you. I'm going for your throat. Yeah. That's what I'm doing. I got to, I'm going to end it. Can you imagine,

if the score is instead of 20 to 10, the score is 24 or 24. 70 to 10. Now we got a whole different ball game. Ball game. But McMillan, that DB 29, he made the play of the game. Yes, sir. Chat, I know y'all say that was a catch. It should have been down. Let me explain it to you. It's called the Calvin Johnson rule. If a receiver catches the football and he in turn goes to the ground, he must maintain possession of the football throughout the entirety of the act called catching the football. I don't know how to let me explain it again. If a receiver catches the foot football, he must maintain. and he goes to the ground.

He must maintain possession of the football throughout the entirety of the catch. To make a long story short, and I made a long story, and I made a short story long. He goes to the ground. He needs to get his ass up and hand the ball to the official. Yeah, yeah, yeah.

It's like, it's like, it's called the Calvin Johnson rule. Yeah, yeah, basically when he was playing Chicago, remember? And that was a catch. And he started to get up. And they challenged it. And they're using the ball to get up. And they won't.

And obviously when I saw it, most of the time, I call it somewhat of a bang, bang, play in a sense where you have to maintain possession of the play. And through the play where possession is supposed to be maintained, McMan, he got the ball. He took the ball. He took the ball away from you. That was obviously.

You're playing the game because they had the 20-yard line, they're going to kick a field goal and win it. Yeah, exactly. So, I mean, it's tough. Then I hate, I don't know, can I say this, I tweeted this as well. It's with a game like this, as close as it was, I hate for the refs to be the one to be.

They're going to be maligned, but it was the right, Ocho is the right call. By the P.I, the P.I. The P.I. It was P.I. And they missed the other one earlier. Earlier, yeah, yeah, yeah. Yeah, we pulled his arm back.

They missed one. They were PIs. It wasn't like, man, I don't think that was a P.I. It was an obvious P.I. They missed one earlier. And they let them play for the most part. Hey, yeah. You heard what you just said?

They let him play for the most part, but I would love some consistency. If you're going to let them play early in the game, we can't let you be that egregious with it, though, Ocho. Yeah, it was egregious. True Davis was a little early. I wish he would have looked back for the ball. He patted it.

He got beat off the line. When you get beat off the line of scrimmage and then you were in hurry up mode trying to catch up, what's the first thing you do? If that receiver slowed down, and you can't run up his back. You're going to run right up his back. Bo, that's supposed to be a walk-off touchdown.

But Bo didn't trust himself. So he put it up there, knowing Mims was going to have to slow down and know White was going to run up his back. That's a touchdown. That's a walk-off touchdown. That's supposed to end the game. All he's supposed to do is let me run up a...

Woo-woo! Yeah. I just hate the fact, I know it was PI, but I hate the fact that it came down to the yellow flag. I hate that the end of the game and the game's decision-making ended up on the rest flag. I mean, it was PI.

I'm not not not my saying it wasn't. I just hate that it ended the way it did. I do. I do. But I can see, Ocho, if it wasn't like, it was kind of like when you had the conversation in our first year old nightcap with

the Eagles and KC man, man, you can't throw the flag. The man came and told you, Bradford the fore and said, I held him. I was beat. So the man telling you he held him, even the official, when he explained it to the pool reporters, what we saw is the guy gets beat, he's pulling away, and the guy,

he's about the option away, and he tugs it. Bradford came, he said, I did it. I was hoping they didn't see. see it. In Philly fans deal, and everybody talking about what they shouldn't have called it. The man, oh, Cho. So if a man, I robbed that bank. I took that

$15 million. Man, he ain't do it. They shouldn't even arrest that man. He told you, he did it. And he got the money to show you. You saw the man grab Juju Jersey. All he had, like you said, they missed the first PI. That really should have been

PI and they didn't call it. Like, well, damn. Are y'all not going to call PI today? So, Sean, say, you know what? Let's dial it up again. Let's see either we're going to get a completion or we're going to force them to call it. One or the other. And especially, especially that situation, that timing of the game. Once I saw, once I saw White get beat off that.

And then a bomb list. You ain't got no, Elcho. He ain't got no help. He already know. At all. I got to get on my. I got to get on my horse. And the funny thing about it is

would make some of the greatest D-Bs in the NFL, in the NFL when you're in a, in that, no. A bad situation. Oh, there we go. When you had a disadvantage like that, when you get beat, can I still remain calm and collective when the ball is in the air and still

be able to play the ball even though the man is in front of it? That's hard to do, boy. It's even harder when you're in overtime. So just to imagine that's all right. At first quarter, second quarter, maybe there's a chance. Now, if next score win, they've had the ball, we've had the ball. They score, they win. So now it ain't like the fourth quarter.

Okay, our offense get a chance. They can go down and redeem this. No, no, no, no, no, no, no. No. And when I look, I was like, oh, he opened. And I saw him throw, I say, why would you throw the ball like that? When you're not confident, Ocho, and you don't want to overshoot him. Yes, uh, you try to just get in the ball, knowing that he's going to,

because I can see the ball, Ocho. I see the ball. The D.B. not looking back because he's in such a hurry to catch up with me. He's just going to run. It's just like you, when you're not paying attention, you run slam in the back of somebody. Where if you're paying attention, you don't run in the back of nobody. You're feeling down with your phone or you go to answer your phone and you go to train. Bam.

Oh, man. What happened? You're a ran dead in the back of somebody, Ocho. But it was, it was a man, Ocho. I think we got the record. 119.7 decibel. That's a lot. A, that place was crazy.

Yes. As check that, 119.7. I think we took that thing back from Seattle or Kansas City. I don't know. I think we got 119. Unless somebody got more than 119, it's ours now. I know, Kansas City or Seattle might have

hired in 119. I could be wrong, but them two stadiums there when it comes to that crime. Seattle get loud. Well, you can't hear nothing for it. See, I was getting back tracking stuff like that when it was in like the Kingdom or the Astrodome when it was old, the House of Pain.

That's what you used to call the Astrodome, Astrodome, the House of Pain or the King Dome or some of these old, but they didn't keep track of it back. then. Here's Sean McDermott on that controversial call. This show contains information subject to, but not limited to personal takes, rumors, not so accurate stats, and plenty more. What's up, man? This is your boy, Nav Green, from the Broken Play Podcast. Look, it's the end of the season, the playoffs are here.

But guess what? It ain't the end of your season. You can always tune in with Broken Play podcast with Nav Green on the Black Effect Podcast Network. Not a team who ain't going to the playoff. They're cheese. What's a rap? It's time to rebuild. Who's your MVP right now, then? Drake May up there, Josh Allen up there still.

Oh, my play, Matthew Stafford. Where did his Bull Knicks at? He ain't too far behind. He did all this talk about. What Matthew Stafford is doing statistically, bro, is crazy. Bro, you know I ain't no Josh Allen fan, but Matthew Stafford got better weapon. Caleb Williams.

Hey, he should be in that conversation. In what conversation? He should be in it. Listen to the broken play. with Nav Green from the Black Effect Podcast Network on the iHeart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or whatever you get your podcast. It's hard for me to, and I've had a chance to look at, it's hard for me to understand why it was ruled the way it was ruled.

And if it is ruled that way, then why wasn't it slowed down? Just to make sure that we have this right, that would have made a lot of sense to me, to make sure that we have this thing right, because that's a pivotal play in the game. We have the ball at the 20, maybe kicking a game-winning field goal right there. So I'll just leave it at that. But I'm saying it because I'm standing up for Buffalo, damn it.

I'm standing up for us. Because what went on is not how it should go down, in my estimation. That plays, these guys spent three hours out there playing football, pouring their guts out, to not even say, hey, let's just slow this thing down. That's why I'm bothered. You're right. In my eyes, it was. Yes, in my eyes it was.

Now, which players he talked about the interception, to play the cook in which McMillan took it out of his hands. Listen, Mr. McDermott has been around the game of football for a very long time. Mr. Dern understands the rules when it comes to the game of football. Even watching from the sideline, you had a field side, you have an eye, you have an eye view of what's going on. You know that's an exception. I'm a receiver.

Even I understand that you have to have positions to the catch and maintain it and get up with the ball. Because he went, if he doesn't go to the ground, it's a catch. But once you go to the ground on Cho, you must maintain if the dad's bride. Dan Bryant is the, who did it? Green Bay game.

He went to the ground. No, the moment you go to the ground. So let that chat. I don't know what your rules are in the Turkey League or your flag football league. But if you catch a football and you go to the ground, you got to maintain possession of the football throughout the act of the catch. And Buffalo, it's hard. But you know, McMillam, as he was going down, McMillan was pulling the ball.

That's why he was going to come up with him. it. Yeah, hey, that's a bang, bang play. It's, you know, going to the ground. I mean, the receiver, you want to do the best you can to grab that thing and have strong hands. But obviously, you out, you out here. You out here with it.

So it's hard to bring that in. And because you're out here and you expose, you don't have much strength because it's not close to your body. And because when he turned, made the stronger man. When you turn, Ocho, you bring the DB into play now. Yeah. Now he got, now he can do this and his momentum is carrying him over.

So he's going to pull it out. Yeah, every time. But think about it. He pulled it out and held on to it. A lot of times we see it pull out and it's incomplete. Yeah. But the hair to play before. See, if Cooks was a hands catcher,

he'd caught that one on the sideline. Remember, he jumped up and caught it with his body. He got his foot down. And then he tried to brace himself and his hand touched down out of bounds. He caught it with his hands. He got both feet down in bounds. You have to understand where you are on the field. But I thought, look, if I'm Buffalo, I'm definitely bringing Cooke's back.

Because I think he played, I thought he played really well. I mean, also he just got there like two days ago. Yeah, he ain't been that long. He ain't been that long. But even if you don't bring cooks back, you think about some of the options, some of the options that you have. There might be a shakeup. There might be a shakeup with someone that's down there in Philly who might be a viable option to come in as your number one, who would be tremendous to have for Josh Allen to have a, what I like to consider a true number one.

Chat, y'all know exactly where I'm going with this. You never know what can't happen in regards to people to people talk about cap hits and all that. I'm not sure if you're following the game of the game of football long enough. NFL teams don't care nothing about no cap hits. They'll make it work. NFL team don't care about no cap hits or how high it is. They don't care not about that, especially when situations have deteriorated as much as they have this year over there with some of the issues that they had. So I think they're probably going to move on from one of the best in the game.

And there's a good chance he might end up in Buffalo. Oh, Cho, pool report reasoning. Question, what did you see on the past of Brandon Cook's that was, ruled an interception by Jaquan McMillan. Carl Chaffers, who's the referee. The receiver has to complete the process of the catch. He's going to the ground. As part of the process, the catch,

he lost possession of the ball when he hit the ground. The defender gained possession of it at that point. The defender is the one that completed the process of the catch, so the defender was awarded the ball. Question, did the ball hit the ground? No, that was confirmed in the replay process. The interception was confirmed. Now, he is an official.

Now, I just told you the rule. I told you the rule. I tweeted. Somebody, I said, this is what has to happen? When you go, chat, it's the last time Ocho and I was going to explain it to you.

Ocho is a receiver. I'm the D.B. Ocho jumps up and catches the ball. If he stays on his feet, we good. But if Ocho goes to the ground and in the process of going to the ground, we hit the ground,

samatianas and he loses possession and i come up with the ball it's my ball i completed the process not ocho ocho ocho started the process i appreciate him for doing that i completed the process that's my ball right also chat with this hypothetical scenario that umc just created if he was a db and i was a receiver i would have scored a touchdown that would have been a deal i ain't let you off the I ain't let you off. And I ain't let you out. Ocho. And they know this.

And overtime, everything is replayed. All scoff. Yes. And because they didn't want people challenging it. A touchdown. Somebody had to burn a challenge flag because they thought it was a touchdown. Or that was a fumble or that was this.

They say, you know what? We're going to let you save your challenges. The mere fact it was a change of possession. They replay it. I don't know why Sean McDermen. burn the time out. They replayed it. It was a turnover.

All scoring and change of possession plays are automatically reviewed. Yeah. Yeah. And then and then to know the rules as a head case

and still you have to excuse me, you got to fight for your team. You got to stick up for your team. But like, come on there. You know that once Brandon Cook goes to the ground, he was made. maintain possession.

If he'd maintain possession, what that would have meant, Ocho? Mac Miller wouldn't have had the ball. How you have something in your possession? And then I got it in my position. Right. And then, you know, some people aren't even going to listen. Some people aren't going to listen.

You know the people that are not going to listen, the people that are Buffalo failed. Oh, Shadden, you just saying that, you just saying that because your team won. No, I'm saying that because that's the rules. I just happen to know the rules. I mean, yeah.

I would, I would, look, and I get it. And in situations, Ocho and I talk about a little earlier, is that PIs are really hard, but they become excruciatingly hard the later you get to the game, because you feel like that might have influenced to have some impact on the game. Yeah, I hate that. But ask yourself, Buffalo fans, if the guy had there, Shakira like that, would you have wanted that play call? Yes or no? Yeah. How about your quarterback?

Hold on to the football. How about your quarterback not try to throw down the scene and read the backside safety? Right. Josh Allen, I mean, for the mere fact that you was even in the game, I mean, you play probably any other team. You lose it. You're in a situation like, you're in a situation like San Fray in Seattle. Oh, game over. Game over. Four turnoff? Five.

Oh, five, excuse me. You do realize the goddamn Seahawks capitalize off every turn in a night. Every last one. Oh, Joe. And the thing, this game was about, boy, this game was about to get out of hand. It was seven three. Dever didn't do anything. They got the ball back, and they're going right back down.

field and Singleton put a hit on James Cook. Yeah. Take it. I mean, he and picked him up off his feet. Yeah. Huff was right there Johnny on the spot and they go right back down the field and they get a touchdown. But this thing was about, like, oh, it's about to be 14 to 3.

There are no inconsequential plays come postseason. Every play matters. Every play matters. And people don't, well, that ain't no one play. Because it's only, it's like four or five plays to actually determine the outcome of the game. Every time. It's four or five plays. You can go back and look.

In the postseason, it's because every play is very, very important. You just track it back. We make this. We do this. But that was an interception. They reviewed it. I don't know. He's talking about,

well, they should take a little bit more time. How much time you want them to take? It doesn't, it don't change. Oh, if they took, you know what,

they just came back from the review. It was an interception. It doesn't matter how long it takes. It doesn't change the outcome. No. Mm-mm.

And some people, I'm reading the chat as we sit here talking, some people still, still not listening. He hit the ground with the ball. I mean, He did.

So let me ask your question. If the ball, let me ask you question. He catches the football. He hits the ground and the ball pops out. Is that a catch? Why isn't the catch? He hit the ground with the ball. Mm-hmm.

If Ocho, I can't read the chat. But Ocho's saying he's reading the chat. He's saying he hit the ground with the ball. So if he hits the ground with the ball and the ball pops out, what is that? Incomplete. Okay. Go to the ground as the receiver. You must maintain possession of the football.

He goes to the ground. He didn't maintain possession. You know why? Because McMillan took it from him. Yeah. McMillan. And Carl Chapers told you. It was the DB that completed the process of going to the ground

and coming up with the football. Oh, yeah. The difference is McMillan was down by contact because Cook had touched it. If not, he could have got up and ran. Yeah. I mean, it, listen, it sucks. It sucks. It's like, you get the girl pregnant.

And she wait, oh, Joe, she wait three or four weeks to tell you. Why don't you tell me? It wasn't going to change anything. I'm still pregnant. It doesn't change nothing. So if I had told you in March, instead of telling you April, what would that have changed? I'm still pregnant. So if they take 30 minutes, they take 45 minutes, they take an hour to review that

is still an interception, is still the Broncos ball. No matter what. I know, but I don't know. I get it. I get it. This was supposed to be your year because all the stumbling blocks, all the things that have stopped you in previous years, removed, mainly Joe Burrell and Patrick Mahomes.

Those two have been removed. And now you let a second year quarterback come in and, that's why I'm a firm believer in letting a coach pick his quarterback. Sean didn't want Russ. I don't believe he had to be little Russ like he did in Detroit. And so, hold on, who's, I was talking about. Not to get off track. Oh, you know, we were talking about A.J. Brown.

They're talking about A.J. Brown, too big of a cap hit dead money. I said, is he more or less than what Russell Wilson was on the cap? I mean, if he is 85 million? I don't, I don't think people. understand how this business works on. I don't think they do because the first thing they do is they, and the NFL teams do not care about that dead cap of money. They don't.

When things have deteriorated, the relationships, the distractions, as they so call them, when it gets to the point of where it is now, there's no going back. There's no going back. And obviously, it's the Eagles fans, listen, you love AJ. You love what he stands for. You love what he's done for the organization. organization, but it's tough, man. It's tough. He's not, he's not happy. No, and the report that he had requested a trade. I don't know if that's true. Some reports could be erroneous

and some can be have some. There might be a little truth in it. There's a little truth even in a lot. Oh, wait. It depends who it came from. It depends where it came from. And if it's, if it's anonymous and someone that is somewhat of a credible source says it, it's coming from somewhere. Yes. It's coming from somewhere. But they review. It's It, oh, man, the NFL record decibel level is Arrowhead Stadium fans reach 142.2. Wow. I told you. I knew, I knew it was either Kansas City or Seattle was one or the other. Oh, Joe, that thing was like laugh. So that's, that's 23 show. Yeah, yeah. You, you, I mean, oh, you played in Kansas City. Kansas City.

Oh, Kansas City and Denver is the too loudest stadium as I ever played in. Yeah. And it's just what happened. You know, Denver was my home

in Kansas City. We played, you know, we played that every year. Played it every year for 12 years. So I got 12 trips to, well,

I got 13 because we played them in the playoffs one year. Yeah. I only had one trip. And that one trip there, I was like, I never, never experienced nothing like this.

And I'm like, I'm curious, all fans, they sit in the stadium, they all scream, they all cheer, they all booed, whatever it may be.

And I'm thinking, well, maybe it's the way the stadium is built. Why is it that this stadium in particular sounds so much different than everyone else? I mean, when it's so loud and I got to get, right, and you sitting right next to me? And you can't, you can't, I can't hear what you say it unless I, yeah, that's when you know it's loud. This thing, it was, it was crazy. But I'm glad Carl Chephyrs. and normally the referee meet with pool reporters and they ask any controversial call

or what this, X, Y, MZ. And he explained it to him. Possession of the football, receiver goes to the ground. He must maintain possession of the football throughout the entirety of the act of catching the football. He did not. And y'all know it. So hopefully Ocho and I explained that to you guys

really, really well because I don't really know what else to stay. Oh Joe, obviously emotions were extremely high in the Bill's locker room after the game. Here's Josh Allen and Dionne Dawkins after the game. Josh, uh, I'm just here again and Jeff is happening? That's extremely difficult. I feel like I, yeah, feel like I let my teammates down tonight. He said he feels like he let you guys stay. How do you react when you're a quarterback who's done so much for you, says that to you guys?

He let us down? Tough. And I love that. I love that emotion. Huh? Because you know why I love it? Yeah, yeah, yeah. Because I know how much they invested into them.

This is the kind of emotion that when you invest into it, your relationship is ending after five, 10, 15 years. That's that hurt, boy. Your child is after everything that you've done and you've invested so much. And they get sidetracked temporarily. That thing hurts. Yeah. I've been there, Josh.

I've been there, Dion. Bro, don't let nobody are a big grown-ass man. If I'm, because everybody's going to say, man, if I'm making 40, 30, 40,

50, I don't care. See, the funny thing about it is people can't see past the money. People can't see the money, but they don't understand all the work that you put in

to be able to make that kind of money. A lot of sacrifice. Training camp, all-season program, hours and hours and countless hours of practice and film and studying. rehab. They don't understand

everything that goes. People, fans of the game, they get to see the finished product go out there on Sundays. They don't understand the work you've got to put in before Sunday gets down.

Do you know how long it took them to get there? That's right. That's what it is coming from. Think about how long it took them to get there. Man. I mean,

from the time, a lot of these guys been playing football from the time they were seven, eight, nine years old. This is a lifetime

of devotion. This is a lifetime of dedication. And I'm so close. I can see it. I'm so close. I can see it, Ocho. And every single year,

it doesn't get easier. I want you to know, disappointment does not get easier. It doesn't. Even if you've had disappointment one year after the next, it doesn't get easier. It doesn't.

As a matter of fact, it gets harder. Because as you suffer these disappointment, as the years go by, you realize I got you less years to do this. Oh, yeah. Oh, that window of opportunity is small, that window of opportunity in the NFL in general is small. And then you have to maximize the opportunities

to make the playoffs or be able to make that run at getting the Lombardi. You were afforded opportunities for a while in your career. That was very fortunate. I want three and four years. Hey, imagine being on my end. No, I don't know. Uh-huh.

You know, going into each season, hoping, at least just hoping to have a winning season. Yeah, you got to keep thinking about no Lombardi? Shit, I'm trying, can we, can we have a winning season first? Yeah, let's win. Let's get to the playoffs. And then maybe I can shift my focus. Because right now, I can't really see paths out. I can't see that far down the road, don't you?

It's dark and I ain't got no headlights on. Yeah, amen. Like I said, Chad. And just, I'm not, just like remove yourself if you've never been an athlete or or, but I'm saying, just imagine the thing that you poured the most into, the thing that you sacrificed the most. And it didn't go your way. Maybe you didn't get the job.

Maybe you didn't get into the school that you wanted. Maybe you didn't get the grades that you wanted. Maybe you didn't get the promotion that you wanted. You know what the funny thing about it is? is everybody can be able to have a sense of how Dion Dawkins is feeling or how Josh Allen is feeling simply because maybe if you didn't play sports, hell, it could be a relationship. You think about the years and the time you spent, you know,

investing in something and not getting that return on it. And then it ending and you're sitting there wondering like, well, God damn, where did everything go wrong? What did I do? What could I've done differently? Better. Yeah, yeah. Because that's the thing.

It's the lifetime of regret that you look back at like what. Because nobody's going to, nobody remembers all the great Superman, the Hercules played that Josh Allen's made. No. All they remember the man. I remember him in the divisional round. He turned the ball over four times. He had gone six games.

He had turned the ball over. 16 total touchdowns, zero turnovers. And then today he had four. they had five turnovers. And for that you have five turnovers and still, I have to take a field goal in overtime to beat you unless you know you're close,

but close only matters if you're throwing grenades and you're slow dancing. And if there's a chaperone there, you're not going to be able to get that close. I like that. I ain't never heard that one. It's tough, man. I know how Josh was feeling.

Because, boy, I felt the same way when we lost the Jacksonville. That exactly, exactly. And I held it together when I was on camera. But when I got in that car, you let it out, huh? As a matter of fact, my girl, she didn't need ride home with me. I said, ride home with your mom.

Damn. Because I already know I would be able to go together, no. Yeah, you want to see you vulnerable, huh? It's okay to cry? I know it is. I didn't. I didn't, because I already know because I had put so much blame on me.

me. I had dropped the two-point conversion. I had dropped the crucial third down. I had put so much on me. I couldn't let a CB breakdown because I know I was going to break down. It's okay to be vulnerable. See, I'd be, I'd be crying on the show live in front of everybody. I don't be can. That's, uh, yeah, I just like, and plus, I just wanted to talk. I just wanted to talk with my brother. I just needed to hear his voice because he's that, he's that soothing. He's that calm that let me know it's okay. Yeah. And that's what. That's what I got. So what Josh is feeling, what Dion Doggers is feeling,

I felt the same thing. I was just able to keep it. I was just able to hold it together on camera. But trust me, when I got in that car, yeah. Damn, uh. I'm sorry, I'm sorry about that, man. Boy.

I mean, you play shitty, boy. Yeah, I caught a touchdown, Ocho. I'm feeling good, Ocho. Call put in motion, went down. Ah. I was like, you know, I read, I put a move on a motion. They put me in motion.

Yeah, got up to see. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Called like a 20-something yard, 27-yard touchdown. We were high. Go back down the field, scored again, two-bork, because we kick two field goal. Then we got a touchdown, and the mic said, we got to go for two, going for two.

Yeah. Oh, man, I still. Yeah, uncle, you drop it? Hey, you're sorry, man. You're sorry, you're all. Do you remember what I say? The mind replayed what the heart can't delete. I was heartbroken.

Come on that. I replayed that old. and over. I mean, think about it. I mean, I won three Super Bowl. I was a multiple time

all pro pro bowl player. I'm in the Pro Football Hall of Fame. Every state that I've ever lived in, I'm in the sports Hall of Fame. I'm in the Division II Hall of Fame. I'm in the Black College Hall of Fame. That play. Damn.

That play. I was going to think about it. And don't worry about it now, boy. That was a long time ago, boy. It is. I mean, sometimes I find myself, I mean, you know, I just be I find myself just thinking like damn whatever but then I flip sides of

with Shannon that was the catalyst for you guys to get go get back to back but then I start talking to burns I start to man man we you know we should have three peter then all of a sudden all those emotions that I felt so many many years ago start coming back ain't back dang back damn I oh sure and that that's I think that's one of my problem because I try to be, I try to be a perfectionist. I try, I try to do every single thing right. Yes. And I try to do, I try to take every step to make sure it's right. And when, and when it's not, boy, it'll hurt. You got to understand, but you're human, man. You're human. As much as we want to be perfect and all that we do. Yes. Yes. Yes. My sister tell me that

all the time, much. Yeah, human error is inevitable. No matter how much we try to perfect. our craft or perfect the way we walk, you know, in the steps of the big man upstairs. Man, we all backslide at some point. We all fall short at some point. And then the thing is, I go to Baltimore, and I'm known as a Jaguar killer. Two game winning tough guys against them jokers. Set up another game when they keep field goal. Yeah.

I was like, okay. Okay, okay, Jay. I like that. Okay. Hey, hey, y'all. Yeah, yeah. I declawed him. Give them clogged.

You can't do nothing. Who are they claws? I declawed him. Let me stop for, you know, Peter will be talking all crazy, reckless. They got mad at Kim Kardashian because you wouldn't bought some dogs and didn't go to the pound. Ocho. Yeah.

We're going to put this loss on, Josh? Yeah. Yeah, uh, we put it on every other quarterback when they lose. This is on John Allen. We gave a ton of credit last week against Jagged, did we, Joe? A game a lot, game a lot. The on us on that win with Josh Allen. So the on us on this loss is on Josh Allen.

He didn't have four turnovers. He played like doo-doo, what? He played like, dude. I ain't talking about any kind of dude, I'm talking about like diarrhea, like slippery. Yeah, like, like messy. Hey, tonight's bad for me. 17, what? You know, and I'm, you know, I'm not, I'm not one to really criticize,

but I've gotten better at being able to express myself when someone doesn't play up the bar. Based on standards of being a MVP, caliber quarterback, and not having to deal with your nemesis. No, he ain't no MVP, caliber quarterback. He had an MVP. He got it. He got the award last year, remember?

Okay, how bad. You ain't no caliber. Right, right. Yeah. Hey, boy. And you know who Mr. Hanky is? You on Walsh South Park? Oh, no.

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Oh, Cho. Yeah. We're going to talk about the Texas Patriots game of a bit, but first it's time to welcome Broncos' cornerback, Jaquan McMillan. Jay Mack, walk us through that play because I know your heart was beating fast. You let Brandon Cook kind of get behind you.

Like, oh, my goodness. this. We had the ball first. If he catches this ball, they're at the 20-yard line. They're in field goal range, considering Matt Prater kicked for almost a decade in Denver, and he had just made a 50-yard field goal to send it to overtime. So you're like, okay, walk us through that play, what's going through your mind? Because you look up and you see the ball. Take it from there.

Yeah, man. Who was actually in zero? We had zero coverage. Yep. And I see Josh Adelight hand and kind of bring to it like a 20 look, which they'll put a protection look. And I'm just thinking of my head like, oh, man, like, okay, they better pick up. You know, they better pick up the blitz.

So I kind of back up a little bit. It was like 30 and 10. It was like third and 10. So I'm right at the sticks. I'm playing at the sticks. I know I got two droppers at the hook, but, you know, they ain't really going to help. You know what I'm saying? Right.

So I'm playing sticks. He's running and he kept going. So I just kind of gave him a little jab and running. That's how he had him by like a yard or two. He kind of under through it. And, you know, I'm just running, running. And I try not to panic, man. I didn't panic.

I seen his eyes getting big and I'm like, okay, the ball is in the air. So once he starts snowing down, okay, I'm like, now I'm like, okay, the ball is underthrown. So now I'm just playing through his hands. I'm just waiting on the ball to drop. So I'm like really having my hands, you know, through his hands. And once he had it at first coming down and then once I got my hand on the ball, I'm falling with him. And once we feel together, he lost control. And I just ganked out of his hands.

I mean, because you like, you say, okay, I'm playing through his hands. And Ocho and I was talking about this. A receiver, sometimes they give it away. Right. They give a tail away. Yeah. A receiver with late hands is very difficult for you because he'll wait to the last second and pluck it. Right.

Some guys can keep their eyes, it's like, no, I'm like, damn, when is the ball coming? And next day you know it's in his arm. A lot of guys can't control their eyes. It's just like, oh, my goodness. And the eyes get bigger. And you're like, okay, the ball's in the air. Like you said, the ball's in the air.

So now you're playing through his hands. You're like, okay, I got the ball. He got the ball. But the problem is he falls. You fall on top of him and pull it. Yeah. Did you know, did you think, like, what are they going to call?

Are they going to give me the interception? Are they going to say he's down by Congress? Are they going to say incomplete? What is your thought process? What's going through your head? Play every scenario. What you're thinking? Yeah, man, once I came up.

Once I had the ball in my hand, I kind of rode on top of them. I get up and I'm holding the ball in the air. And you can see in a video, I'm looking at the back judge, like, okay, what are you going to call? Once I see him doing this and point the other direction, I'm going to get to the end zone. I'm about to celebrate. So once I see him do that, it was over with. The funny thing about it, too, is there's been so much controversy about that play. A lot of people saying that obviously the bills got hold because the play call was wrong.

But obviously what happens is, is there was a smooth transition from him catching and you coming up with the ball to where the call was made the right way. The call was made the right way. In order to have a completed catch, the person has to come down with the ball, secure the ball, and be able to get up with said ball. And that was you who got it with the ball. So I'm not sure how the people don't understand the rules. and one of the things that that that kind of gets everybody upset is because tonight we had something very similar with Devante Adams and there's no consistency with plays that are like that. So I think that's where the confusion comes in that. It just the rest, they have to find some of the competition committee, whoever it is.

They need to find a way to have the calls always remain consistent based on the rules that those that have already played the game, no, and were able to call right away when you got the interception. Did you know? Jay Mack, did you know the rules that if a receiver catches the football goes to the ground, he must survive the contact from the ground and possess the football? Because you survived the, you, he caught it, you took it, survived the contact from the ground and got up with the ball. That's the way Carl Chaffer's. That's where all the referees that have been going on shows explained it. It's like, yes, there was a transition that on the way down that the DB,

took the ball. He survived the contact from the ground and got up with the ball. So what we have is an interception. It can't beat anything but an interception. What did VJ? What did Vance tell you? Because I know he was like, oh my goodness, we just went bomb

blitz. We just blew it up. They max protect. Because like you said, they went 20 protection. They brought two extra guys in. So now whatever you come with, they can pick it up. They got seven protectors. Yeah. They got enough to hold it off because, you know, hey, you go here, you go here. They always go in the bomb situation, they're always going to send one player deep.

At least one. You and you're like, hold on, wait a minute. Damn, they can pick this up. Oh, Lord, have mercy. Jesus. I'm like by myself and this guy can still run. He might not run four three like he did coming out, but he can still good on the floor. He was running.

He was running, but Vijay came to me. He was just excited, man. He was like, hey, man. You made a play, which you always do, man. I always, you know, come up in the clutch time. I made the play, man. It was just crazy, man. But, Matt, it's, people don't understand.

It's a whole different animal playing the slot as opposed to because the slot, he can go across the field. It's a lot more space. He can start in and come back out. He can start out, come back in. He can go up the scene. He can go far across. He can go sail.

He can go stop. He can do so many things. And like you're playing like you're based on formation, down and distance, of where he is on the field. So you've studied the game like, okay, in this formation, this down and distance,

this area of the field, he likes to run this. And so you kind of play, but you can't get too aggressive because if he optioned away from you, you're at a position. Oh, yeah, like I said, we had two hook droppers.

You can see in a video, you see Nick Benito, he dropped. So I'm like, okay, even though we're in zero, I can line up, like, head up to outside. Right. Okay. In the slide, you always, you got to pick a leverage because you get two-way to go.

You got to make sure you know, okay, he can't come this way. And if he go this way, okay, I'm already caught. I'm already open to run. So that's what I would. I was head up to outside. Yeah. If they do anything quick, I knew I had my help defending, low-help, help defend on the hook.

So he kept running. And, you know, I just played outside leverage and gave him a jab. And I just ran with him. Just ran. Like I said, he just played. through his hand, man. But he was rolling, man. He was rolling.

The ball was a little bit on throw. He slowed down a little bit. That kind of helped me. But he just made a play. But he showed you the ball also. Ocho and I was talking about it last night. If he let that ball kind of like what Marvin Mims, Marvin let the ball go over.

So now you got to run through him. He opened up and allowed you. He kind of jumped in the air. He kind of jumped in the air. So it came, like, it helped me. Yes. Because, Ocho, remember we talked about a lot of times, when guys jump up in the air, that's like guys punch it out because you got no leverage.

You're not grounded. Yeah. That's why it's so easy to get the ball out when the guy's up in the air. You see guys try to go up over a running back or a wide receiver try to go up. It's easier because they don't have no stability. They're not on the ground. Yeah. And you said when he jumps up, okay, now he ain't as strong as he would be if he was on the ground.

He was on the ground. Yep. And plus he got to, I know one thing. If you play basketball, I know the guy, he's got to bring the ball up. So he got to bring it to me. Well, he got to bring it down because he's going to try to get it to his body. That's the opportunity.

You bring it to your body? Yeah. I'm going to shoot through and I'm going to get it. Yeah, that's exactly what I did. Once he came down with that mug, I'm already in his pocket. You're in between, yes. Yeah, I'm already in the pocket.

So he brought the football to me. And I just fell with him and rip that thing out. Go ahead, Ocho. In those pressure situations like that, especially understanding it's cover zero. You're on an island all by yourself. Most of the time the ball got to come out short, but you got your hook.

You got your hooks coming in to help you out, right? Most of the ball, the ball got to come out fast. Even though he had that step on you and you got to play catch up, how do you stop yourself from panicking in situations like that where you know you beat? Because that's the hardest thing for DBs is when you know you got to catch up, you lose all technique and all you're doing is just running and just going. How were you able to keep yourself in a relaxed mind state to make that play you did make?

Just reading him, the receiver. Just reading him. Once he slowed down, I knew the ball was short. So I had to adjust that. And you can see in the video, I kind of like, once he slowed down, I see them jumping, I kind of turned my head a little bit. Yeah. And got my hand up in there. But, man, it's practice.

It just takes practice. you know, the receiver and that's how you stay calm just in the moments. Yeah, it's one thing to say it, right? It's one thing to say it, but you know, I'm talking about. In practice, in practice, it's easy to stay calm and relax. But in the game time, you know, shoot, man, shit. Well, you see it all the time, boy, every, every Sunday. We always, we always talk to, like, force the receiver to make the catch.

You know what I'm saying? Fight them all the way to the ground. That's what I did. Just fought them all the way to the ground. And, you know, the ball just so happened to be in my hand, but I was going to get the ball out regardless. That's what I'm saying. I was going to get the ball out regardless.

Jay Mack, but here's the difference between practice in the game because in practice is quiet. And you hear them say, ball, ball, ball, ball. You start looking. You can't hear itish in the game. They can be screaming, ball, ball, ball, ball. You ain't who will hear. You'll hear nothing.

You know, they're not here. They might be just, ball, ball, ball. Because you don't hear a feed. Yeah. But he's just reading there, like I said, he's just reading the receiver, man. He's going to tell you

when the ball is right there. And he jumped up in the air. He gave me all the signs that the ball was right there. So yeah. Yeah. Did you watch any of today's game between the Patriots and the Texans?

Yeah. Yeah. What do you, what do you see? What do you see on film? I mean, they got to come there. Obviously, we've got to, everybody knows. Bo Nix is done for the year.

You're going with your backup, Jared Stedham, who at one point in time, he was a start. He started from Patriots, started for the Raiders. So now he's been, I think he's been there for like three years. I think he's been there two or three years. So you know what you're going up against. You're going to have to do what you've done all year, play to your strength, but you're going to have to do, you know, help your young quarterback out. Yeah, they got a good quarterback, good run game.

they roll off the run game, playoff play action. We got a decent receiver cord, man. But I haven't watched too much. I just watched the game, so I don't really know too much about them. But from based on how I see, I got a good run game,

it's kind of helping them, you know, in the past game. You like watching, you, if I'm playing a team, if I know that team is on our schedule, I can't watch them on TV copy. because I would get a false sense. If they played bad, I was like, oh, yeah, we're about to run through these dudes. And if they play good, I was like, oh, my goodness, Lord, how are we going to score on these guys?

So I never watched it. I just wanted to, hey, just give me the cut up. Just give me a breakdown, and I'll take it from there. So you actually watch a team that you're going to actually play. Do you get the TV copy to try to hear, you know, calls or anything like that, Cato, say if you're going to come off the blitz or anything? Do you watch the TV copy and try to pick up the sound? because some guys, some defensive linements

obviously try to get the cadence of the quarterback. I kind of watched the TV company kind of like on the back end of the week. You know, I get my cutups first. I watch all my cutups first, second down early in the week. And then the next day I might do the third down and do that. And then towards the later of the week, closer to the game, I watch the TV copies because, you know, the commentary is kind of give you a lot of information when you watch the game.

They do. You know what I'm saying? And you pick up on a little signs based on, like, chicks and you hand signals and stuff like that. And you know how, is this guy, does he like to hard count? You know what I'm saying? You know, I'm reading everything. His first reads, you know what I'm saying?

I'm just listening to the commentary and saying how the game flow, how they, you know, the flow of the game is going. But I don't watch too much of the TV copy. I'm more of a cut-up guy, you know, watching formations and things like that. So based on what you've seen so far, based on what you know about them, even though you haven't gotten into preparing for that game against them, is there anyone on the Patriots that you see might be able to give you fits

on the opposite side of you, or you feeling comfortable going to that game where it ain't nothing? I got this. I just have to be technically sound and be disciplined with my eyes and I'm going to be all right. When I always go into the game, like, man, if I just do my job and have my eyes where it's supposed to be in a playoff technique, man, I feel like I just can't be beat. That's how I feel.

I like it. I like it. I like it. You guys got tomorrow off? You got to go in to watch film. You got anything or you got tomorrow off? We go in for like a team meet, but we don't do too much. It's like a regular week now.

So going on a team meet and then we have Tuesday off and then we start back Wednesday. Back at the weekend. Okay. Yeah. Man, congratulations. Man, I was, I was. I said, man, if the Broncos lose this game after getting five turnovers, I'm going to lose my mind.

I'm going to lose. I bet I was going to lose my mind. But I talked to Pat, a PS2 before the game, and I think you know now is that there are no insignificant plays in the postseason. Every play matters. In the regular season, you might can brush a playoff in the first or second quarter.

But you can't do that in the postseason. I get a prime example. I think it was the second quarter. You remember when Coleman dropped that ball in the end zone? And people said, ooh, glad he dropped it because it was a penalty. But if he catches it, you guys are going to have to accept the penalty. Now you give Josh Allen another crash here.

You see what they did, Ocho? Yeah. Now because he dropped it, we can decline the penalty instead of giving him another crack to get seven, they had to settle for three. See, there are no insignificant plays. People like try to, well, you know, it really didn't matter in the grand scheme of things. Come postseason, every play matters. Talk to Sean, and I know Sean told you guys, like, Sean, hey, you've been here.

You know what it's like. You're like, we're ready to play. We're ready. And you guys, Matt, you guys got to put that away. They come out, you get the, you get the strip sack. Benito chops him. You get the ball. You kick a field goal going into the half.

They get the ball. Benito hits them in the back. You get the ball to the 19. Put them away. You get a touchdown there. You put them away. Yeah, game over. Yeah, that's one thing about, like, NFL football, man.

like we like you said we got the force fumble right before they have three points and then come back you know force another fumble and we done all this and the game still closed it's like still like you're what I'm saying like it's a long game it's a long game and I feel crazy it's a long game playoff game is the atmosphere is just crazy it's different the the tempo is different it's the flows I mean it's a different it's a different world oh yeah man man that stadium got so quiet when they took the lead because they got a field goal and then they came back and they took the lead

and they made it 24 to 23 that might have been the quiet as I've ever heard mile high because they're like, hold on. We got four turnovers. We were kicking the inch out of them the whole game. How did it get the lead? That's what be the crazy part. Like, man, like you would think like

if you don't even look at the schoolgirl, you're just thinking like, man, we, we're blowing it and we own them. Like we own them. Dominating. Yeah. And then we, yeah, we don't. And then they scored one.

And they're right back in it. Right back in it. Man, well, congratulations. That's one of the biggest plays in Bronco history, in postseason play. Congratulations, proud. I think you or Benito going to probably be a L.C. defensive player the week.

Benito got two fours, fumbles. You got a pick. I don't know, it's going to be out of you in Carlton Davis. But I think one of you guys going to probably be an AOC defensive player of the week. But congratulations, great season.

far. Hey, I'm trying to see y'all. Hey, Matt, I got a question. Go ahead. Matt, you can hear me? Yeah, I can hear you. Hey, if I was playing today, right? Yeah. Like, hypothetically speaking, if I was playing today game, you think you can cover me?

Of course. 100%. I'm, I'm being serious. This Ocho you're talking to. I know who I'm talking to. I know exactly who I'm talking to. I know, you know, I don't, you know, I don't watch the my life before, you know. Okay.

You're talking to Jay Matt. Yeah. You know what we do? I know, listen, I know I know you're Bronco, but I mean, I mean, he said he can cover me. I mean, you think you can cover me right now? What, oh, Joe? Of course. We can line up when-

Got locked up, won't let you know by. We can line up whenever. We could do something. Listen, your whole, your whole secondary can come get this work now. Ain't nothing wrong with my feet. Hey, we ain't ducking nothing. The whole secondary. All right.

I'm in Miami. Come on down here. I'll be down there. I'll be down there. Real? Yeah. Fort Laudette. All right.

All right. After y'all, after y'all hold that trophy up. Yeah. I got you. Hey, you're nervous, huh? I can hear it in your voice. Nervous. Yeah.

Yeah. I ain't never nervous. One thing about J-Mack, hey, one thing about J-Mack, I don't care. Who I line up against. Yeah. Yeah, who anybody can get it. Hold on. This is me, that.

This ain't, this ain't, this ain't, this is me. I understand who you are. I'm the, I'm the original shit, talking. It's me. I know who are. Don't do that. I know who you are. Okay.

J-Map. There. Bronco, country. Yeah. Hey, hey, have a good one, boy, man. I salute you, man. I salute you.

Appreciate y'all. Congratulations, man. Great week. Keep it going, man. Hey, one more. We're so close. One more. One more.

Appreciate it, man. Thanks for joining us. Yes, sir. Appreciate it. Juan McMillan. Denver Broncos.