Nightcap - Best of NFL News Part 1: Devon Witherspoon gets PAID + Jerry Jones REFLECTS on Micah Parsons trade + Shedeur Sanders RED FLAG?

Episode Date: August 19, 2026

Shannon Sharpe, Chad "Ochocinco" Johnson, and Joe "King Iso" Johnson bring you the Best of NFL News on Nightcap! The crew reacts to Jerry Jones having no regrets over the Micah Parsons trade, Steve Smith revealing his concerns about Shedeur Sanders, and Jeremiyah Love potentially missing the preseason. Plus, they debate whether George Pickens is headed for a historic season, react to Devon Witherspoon's massive $132 million extension. Subscribe to Nightcap presented by PrizePicks so you don’t miss out on any new drops! Download the PrizePicks app today and use code SHANNON to get $50 in lineups after you play your first $5 lineup! Visit https://prizepicks.onelink.me/LME0/NI... 0:00 - Jerry Jones has no regrets over Micah Parsons trade14:44 - Steve Smith reveals concern with Shedeur Sanders27:16 - Jeremiyah Love likely out for preseason41:51 - George Pickens to have a historic season?51:05 - Devon Witherspoon signs $132M extension  (Timestamps may vary based on advertisements.) #ClubSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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Go ahead and click that subscribe button below so you don't miss a single episode of Nightcap. That button right here. Come for the sports. Stay for the story. After Cowboys traded Michael Parsons To the Packers last year Jerry Jones compared the move

To Hershey Walker trade in 1989 Today Jerry did it again You could say those picks got us key players But the main thing is that Hershey Walker Trade did It caused me to be more aggressive And caused us If you will take more risk

Because we had more picks Hey Hey Jerry Jerry And sting y'all man They're going to stir it up every time, man. He was, Ojo?

He was. He was. He was. He was. He'll stir it up every time. My control, sacrifice one of the best defensive players in 2026 for a first round pick and a 2027, second round pick, and a defensive tackle, Katie Clark.

For Walker, he had 1,000-yard performance in three NFL seasons. The Cowboys are words with three first-round picks, three second-round picks, a third-round pick, and a six-round pick. How is that comparable? Yeah. Now, if they had traded for it. if that was Barry Sanders, okay, sure. Hershey Walker was not one of the best

offensive players. He was the best player Dallas had, but he was not one of the best players in the league. Because you do realize, like, Jerry was in the league at that time, right? Joe Montana was in the league. Bruce Smith was in the league. Reggie White was in the league. All those guys were in the league. I mean, at the running back position, wasn't Hershey Walker that boy? Barry was that, Christian Acoyer was that boy.

Barron Sanders was that boy. Thurmond Thomas was that boy. He had one thousand yard season, Ocho. Like I said, he was the best. He was the only thing they, the cowboys could trade. Do you realize what the cowboys got for Herschel? Three first round picks, three second round picks, a third round pick and a sixth round pick. Yeah.

Hey, who would, who would get there right now in today's game? Those exact numbers. Prior to the injury, probably the Mahomes. He's the only one, too. Three first round picks? Game different. Three. Game ain't.

Man, look here. There was some, like I said, he was the best player, Dallas had. He was the only thing that Dallas could trade. Right. The only thing of value that they had. For that matter. Micah, for me, I think Michael was a top five defensive a player.

Yeah. So I don't think it's the same. Jerry's going to make it seem to, maybe Jerry, that's wish for thinking. And all it has to do is Jerry said, if I win a Super Bowl, that's all that matters. That's it. That's all the matter.

And he just wanted him another Super Bowl before he go up. He does. That's all he wants. That's all he wants. And you know, it seems like, like the father, the more time, pass between you and the one that you just

want, the one that you won? You're like, damn, it's going to happen? Am I going to win another Super Bowl? Or, because think about it. Jerry brought the team in 89. By 95, they had three. Right. Damn. By 95, they had three.

So, you know what happens when you have that kind of success so early, Ocho and Joe. You're saying, this is bad, this. Hey, like, Ha, Ha, Davis said, It is about to be a breeze. Breeze. Oh, no. Listen, it was a breeze when you had that kind of college you had. And you had that kind of coach that could drive them.

That too, until the rest of the league caught up. If you, if you, if you, if you, Kansas City and you came to Kansas City from 2019 to 2024, all you know is going to the Subo. That's it. You're like, man, this thing, man, people talk about soup going to the Subbo Hall. man, we go there every year. It's normal. It ain't normal.

There's nothing about getting to the championship in your sport and doing it consistently. There's nothing normal about that. You might think it's normal. I'm saying, but when you're making it consecutively like that, you feel like that's normal. You do. I mean, every year you feel like you're going to get back to that point.

And hell, then it may become a point here. You don't see that for the rest of your damn career. That's a possibility. You know what I mean? That's how... Look at Buffalo. Your point is, Buffalo Bills. 90, 91, 92, 93.

Yeah. And never got back. Damn. Both times. And every loss was a kick. No, the first one was a Miss Killed Gold. They lost the Giants. That was the closest.

After that, they got the doors blowed off of them. They got two out. The last one was close in Atlanta when they lost the Buffalo. When they lost the Buffalo, When they lost the Buffalo in 92, out there at the Rose Bowl, that was the first Super Bowl that actually went to.

Man, they got the break, got the break drum beat off of them. They did. That was with, remember with Leon Lett, they was about to put a 50 piece on them. When Leon Lett put the ball down and Steve Tasker knocked it out of his hand

and he rolled out of the end zone. Yeah. Don Bebebe right? No. Tass. Bebe, Bibi. Oh, okay, okay. I remember that.

Y'all remember when Don Bibi took up, you know, Don Bibi ran four, three. Oh, yeah, yeah. Remember, Don Bibi used to wear the extra, that's Steve Tasker. That was Tasker. That was Tasker. No, that Steve, that was Mark Kelso.

Steve Tasker was the, with the special teams maven. You told about the one that had that big, he had that, uh, that, uh, that. And he had an extra, he had the concussions cap way back when. Now is Mark Kelso. I played against him,

Oh, Joe. Okay. Yeah. Okay, okay, okay. And that's throwback. Yeah. But, uh, look, Jerry made the trade.

And see, this is what caused attention. Jerry said he made the trade. What did Jimmy say? Jimmy said he made the trade. You see how it sees, you see? Yeah.

Everybody wants, everybody won't credit. Um, look, it worked out for the Cowboys, but it doesn't matter how many draft picks you got. Jimmy know who to got, who to draft? That was the problem. It ain't the draft picks.

Everybody, for the most part, unless you trade it away, guess what? Everybody got a first round pick. Who do you draft? Because you might take a guy, and then a guy that goes in the second round, could have been your first round pick, and boom, look what you got.

Thanks. and most of the time your first round I don't know what percentage Uncle Joe and this goes for basketball too what percentage of your first round is most of the time

they don't pan out either damn first round it's a high percentage on that yeah because you got to realize Joe when you're a first round pick within the first three years you're supposed to look the high you go up

you're supposed to be transformational so now your first three years you need to be a pro bowl you need to be an all pro bowl you need to be an all-pro, you need to be that level of a player. Even if your team is bad, you got to be the one exception

that makes my team that much better. That is correct. That is absolutely correct. And it doesn't always work out like that. So with that being said, but the Micah, Jay had it out for Michael once, you know, Jay felt that he reneged, it was over.

They weren't going to see eye to eye, on that Joe. And Jared, Jared, with them old handshake guys. You shake Jerry's hand on something. You better come through.

You better, you better, you better come through with it. Hey, Jerry tried to swindle that young man. Even swap ain't no swindle.

Jared said, even swap ain't no swindle. Michael said, I was shaking your hand thanking you for having, you know, for meeting me, you know,

for having a conversation with me. Jerry said, nah, you were shaking my hand, we had a deal done. No, it don't work like that, fellas. No, not, you know, an owner, and especially with the games that they play and know how to play, especially contractually,

it's a good thing. It's a great thing that players have agents. You need reputation. Boy, if you really saw how owners feel about you, if you was ever in those negotiating rooms, and they low ball you every time but you never know, but your agent know. I wish players would do that, do it one time,

especially the elite players. Elite players, go back to each age, what they really say about you behind closed doors. That's why you have an agent because I don't want to hear that. Right. I don't want to know. Just go and give me my money

and let me think that you think that much, do you think that much of me? I mean, it's a reason that. They have everybody waiting, I'm the joke. What's that? Is it really? Only player, well,

what is going on right now in Tampa Bay, this is one of the first time, a few times I've seen a quarterback actually publicly. This player's always, with the card train? First time. I ain't seen this in a long time. Because they normally get their money.

Long time. Always. Always. The one person you want to happen, you don't want to scrundle, is your quarterback. That's the one person. Receivers or you can wait? You ain't got nothing to do.

Where are you going? Pigs said, that's all right. I'm having me another 1,500-yard season. Have me another 85, 90 catches. He's going to get gwopped down by the Cowboys. No, not the Cowboys. It's over for you, Joe. Y'all some hate them.

It ain't over for me, boy. It's just getting started here. What do you mean? Yeah. You happen now. You'll be sad later. No, no, I don't know. I know who's going to be sad,

but I ain't going to say no name. I ain't going to call nobody. Damn, Ojo. Who? Don't take your time. Yeah, I'm going to say me. Talk about you. You saw my team on full display today.

Hey, boy, I know you ain't for the youth preseasoned. I know your quarterback got sacked for the first drive. Your quarterback going to get sack, too. Hey, hey, now what y'all going to do is tomorrow. before we get on here, y'all going to watch some real football. Y'all will see some boys out there really clowning tomorrow, okay? There he go. There he go.

There he go. Acting like he don't know what going on. But the Bengals played yesterday, boy. Boy, that's old news, partner. Oh, the Dolphins played. Man, there's nobody talking about the Guppies. Man, you don't dare well. They all ain't got no football teeth. Gumpy ain't nothing but feed the fish.

It's okay. People feed Guppies your bigger fish. Man, stop there, don't you? We are in the rebuilding. Take your shots now. Take all your shots you want to now. We'll be back. Hey, hey, y'all trying to drive buddy

from OSU, uh, from Ohio State. The, what, Jeremiah Smith? Oh. Yeah. Hey, he's from them. And he from Miami? Yeah, he went to Chauvinae.

Yeah. He's right, right, right, right, right, right. Yeah. That's hard, though, uh, because he would have to, he would have to go number, they definitely taking a quarterback. Either Dante Moore or already. Yeah.

Oh, if they get, if Miami get the first pick, they probably take it, what you call him, um, Arch Manning. How? You just play me, even if Malik Willis playing his butt on. Nah,

they don't make a sense. I ain't going. I ain't going. Nah, they're going to be the only game of three-year-old. Jeremiah Smith. You don't, you don't pay, you know, no, no.

No. So you say, you'll take Jeremiah Smith over Arch Manning. Okay. Yes. Well, we're going to find... I wonder what the chat thing.

Chat, what you think, chat? What you think, Chad? We'll find out. Well, first of all, y'all might get the first, y'all might get the first pick, because y'all go to be that bad. It's going to be a long season. Don't do that.

You know, Ocho, you know, y'all stay with, y'all stay with the number one pick. That's just, that's crazy. Y'all. Nah, Cleland. Cleveland, notorious first thing. He didn't stay with

him. Yeah, and basketball too, yeah. For sure. Wiggins, Bennett, Karee,

LeBron. Who else? Hey, don't sleep on what you call to me? The San Antonio. What about it?

They got the first peak too. David Robinson, Kim Duncan, Wimby. No, yeah. Yeah, I'm right.

But Cleveland, Cleveland, they stay with that number one pick. Ew. Oh, Brad, Dardy.

Oh, for clear. He wouldn't want, yeah. Yeah, you were number one. You know, you go way back to the 60s. Hell, I wouldn't even thought of in 6 and 70. I can't keep up something time. Yeah. There's no shortcut for saving time, but saving money is simple.

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feel like they're standing in opposition to an entire administration. Guess you didn't move in on a bunch of dumb hillbillies now, did you? Listen to Our Town on the IHeart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. Smith Sr. says Shadour Sanders has been getting less plays than Deshaun as he's slower to get the plays going. Smith says, I've heard that sometimes Shadour not running the same amount of plays because he gets to play in faster. He has to get the guys lined up. he's a little bit slower on that. Ocho?

Go send it to you first. What you thinking? Did that make sense? I mean, listen, when it comes to Smitty, I mean, his credibility, you know,

and with the people that he does, know inside organizations, not just the Panthers in general. So there's probably some truth to it in, you know, in general, but that's something that's fixable. That's something that can be corrected.

Obviously, that's the point of having practice, you know? You need to get the plays in, being able to call them fast. to being able to make sure everybody's set up right before you go through your cadence, before you go through reading your progression of your defense, you know, making your points and whatever you need to do as a quarterback, once you get to the line of scrimmage, just tell you all it is is telling the quarterback, listen, we need to speed up a little bit.

Obviously, the 24 o'clock, they have the 24 o'clock running in practice to kind of gauge where you are when the players are coming in. Obviously, and it's also one of the off of the coordinator, be able to get the plays in fast enough. Yeah, that's my boy. Yeah, all of that collectively is it intertwined between coach and player and not just Shador. Joe. And maybe that's a development stage for young fellow Shadour.

You know, maybe it's just something he has to kind of experience and go through. I think he'll get better, you know, as the season goes on or as his reps increase, Uncle Ocho. You know what I mean? You don't know to his space this young man is in considering the fact that he's coming out and competing day in and day out against Deshaun to try and see who's going to end up being a starting quarterback. But I don't, I mean, I don't make, I don't see no big deal in it.

But I'm like you, Ocho, I take what Steve Smith says, you know, it's respectable. Yeah, it's, it's tough. He's still a young quarterback. Yeah. Trying to figure this thing out, trying to be, trying to be perfect. And the thing is, it's like most quarterbacks, they feel that. they can go in there and play the game, be free. He knows he can't make mistakes.

It's hard playing like that. It's hard. It's hard when you're under man and you know if you make a mistake, Ocho, that might be the difference in Joe. That might be the difference in you. Hell, you might not see the field again. Thanks. Yeah.

Thanks. But. And that's, that's a tough position to be in. You definitely got to get the plays in because that clock. starts. And if they slow getting the ball in, you was like, if you notice like, my homes, as soon as soon as somebody get tackled, he

over there doing this right here. Come on, give it to me. Now, damn. Hey, he won. Hey, Joe, he's on. The place still going on. He's like this. Yes. Give me the next. Yes. Yes. Yes. Because it gives him time.

He gives him time to see everything in front of him. He's not rushing. You're not rushing. You're not rushing. So anytime a quarterback can get that opposite line up early and you got 15 seconds on the clock, that gives you plenty of time to assess what you need to, not only offensively making sure everybody's in the right place,

but also see that doing defensively. Any audibles that I might need to make, any adjustments that I need to make, I can make those in a timely manner. Because the last thing I want to be doing, I'm getting to the line of scrimmage with 10. And now by the time I get set up, I send the guy in motion.

I might want to make an adjustment. I can't make a damn adjustment because you didn't get the bottom. play in till 15 seconds. By the time I got it and called it and we broke the hurdle, it's 9, 10 seconds. By the time we got to the line, it's 7, 6, 6, 7 seconds.

And now you want me to go through Blue 17, Blue 17. Go on in motion. Time out. What happened? You still slow ass took too long to get the damn playing. That's what happened.

You told me, hey, hustle up. Hustle up. Hustle to the line. Hustle to the line. But because of the officer coordinator, basically, you don't really get a chance to enjoy the game, you don't really get a chance to enjoy the game, won't you? You call to see what they are. You got to be in your call sheet to see what it is.

Hey, and somebody feed you. What down is it? Second and five, second and five, second and five. Now you're going to the second and five call sheet. Okay. Yeah. Red right, red right, Z short, two jet flaker driver. Red right, two jet,

Z short, two jet flagger drive. One more. Ready? Break. What down is? What down is it? It's close. Is it the first?

Is it the first? Damn it. Hey, that's just that they beat too. What do you mean? You think? Is that a fumble? Should we challenge it? They got a hundred things going on.

So it's not easy. Quarterback just think they just call the play. But they try to get everything situated. They try to, hey, what's the down? Hey, can we get a measurement? No. Man, come on. We get a measurement.

That's close. That's close. That's a first down. But I'm just trying, I'm just trying to get a motion to stop. Try to get them stop the clock. I know there ain't no damn first down. That ball a damn foot show. My favorite story of the joke is when I was in New England,

and another reason I got a better understanding on why they win so much, why they're so consistent year in and year out is when it comes to practice, everything was perfect. everything was perfect and you had to go consecutive plays without messing up or you'd be starting over

not practice in general but that specific period you know period 10 12 plays yeah 10 12 they got to be perfect well I remember one time I'm not going to tell a whole story

but I'm just going to tell a little bit of and I think I told it before but Bill O'Brien his mic wasn't working to call to get the player just like we saw right now in time And Tom, I can't hear.

Give me the play again. And Bill said to play, I mean, not Bill. Bill O'Brien said to play again. And Tom looked again and said, give me the goddamn play. And boy, Bill O'Brien, man, I gave you the effing play already. Well, I didn't ever get it. And boy, hey, on the joke,

what ain't him and Tom going back and forth? I'm like, wait a minute. You're going to intervene anytime, Coach Belichick? No, they'll figure it out. Hey And Belichick got his whistle around his finger Doing like this I'm like

Okay This is normal We started a period over They got the mic working We went through all 12 plays And every last one right Hey man That was that was

You don't I didn't see anything like that No no Hey Ojo This is Tom Brady They demand greatness on Ocho And Joe But them people over there That's how they

I was in Denver, Joe. Alex Gil, like, get in the effing huddle. I'm like, hold on. Why are you telling T.D., cut back. I was like, T, T.D., why are you listening to him? He ain't run no running back? Shut the F up, 84. How you're going to tell T, he's just the best running back in the game,

and you're telling him what he should have done? Man, get your own last out of this huddle. Did he threaten me with 16 power? Because that's the only way to get me 16 pounds, especially against the overfront. That means I got to block that big-ass defensive end by myself. Hey, hey. You let me, hey, that's a 16th power?

I call House. Hey, House, come get this one right here. My knee a little sore. My knee a little sore. Hey, hey, say they need money to be. Yeah, yeah, that need a little sore and 16 power. That ain't. That big deal, yeah, but I ain't fooling with that bad.

Oh, boy. It was so many good stories. Yeah. Harold Fannie Jr. had high praise for Brown's rookie Denzel Boston and Casey Concepcion. You could definitely tell night and day difference in the weapons. You can tell that them boys are special. Honestly, it makes me work even harder because you get to watch them work so hard. Just kind of building off each other off rip Casey Concepcion and Denzel Boston are some go geters. They go get, they go and get it done. They go out there. execute. You can talk about Denzel in my mind.

He has the highest ceiling. I'm watching him and I'm like, that guy is somebody special. Casey, too. I didn't know how he was that fast. He can move. He can jump too. Great ball tracking skills. Ocho, remember we had Casey on, a guy that has worked his way through a speech impediment. Joe, we had him on last year.

He had a speech impediment. And we finally got him to open up. We started making some jokes and he was having a good time. But, hey, we watched him at Texas A&M. we got an opportunity to see them a couple of times because obviously Texas A&A was a good team. They were on a lot. We also had Johnny Mansell. But that's high praise, the two rookies.

And that's what you got to have. You got to have guys that can go get it done. Because for so long, they've been ineffective than that area, Ocho. They need, they need play. You got to have playmakers out there. All that other stuff. I know you got to have, but you got to got guys that you can put the ball up and they go make plays.

Put the ball in his hands and let me go make a difference. Let me be a difference maker. Yeah, and I think the last time the Cleveland Browns had a difference make it was I don't know what he was. I don't know what year that was Joe you ever seen Josh Gordon play Joe? Yes, yes. Oh my God. He was special.

Boy, he was amazing way. He was special. Hey, I like the fact that he said those young guys make him work harder, bro. You know, when you got good talent, guys who come in ready to work, ready to prove themselves, man, they can rub off on guys that you never would even imagine. You know what I mean?

So for him saying, like, to see them guys how hard they work and how fast they are. It makes me work harder. I enjoy hearing stuff like that because a rookie can motivate a guy who's already been in the league or a bestian guy that's been in the league. So it's good to do that. Yeah, I like Harold Fannie Jr.'s game.

I think he has the potential to be really, really, really special. I think he can be really, really, really good. He has that kind of game. And he shows some promise lines. Yeah, yeah, yeah, can run, can high point to football, great runner. You know, great transition.

Can get in and out of breaks. That's what I look for. as a tight end. How seamlessly does he get in and out of breaks? How well does he transition? All the other stuff, I can teach you that other stuff. I can teach you, you know, the concentration and catch the football. But if you can't get ended out of breaks, if you choppy, if you tip it routes off.

Hey, do y'all think that's why they let, what's his name, Injoku? Is that why that why he let him go? Yeah. He was injured a lot. He got to be, you know, because they don't let you go unless they know the person behind you is going to be able to fill a position and give you that same. production or even more. And that goddamn fan was nice, boy.

Oh, yeah. But it came to the Cleveland Browns, outside of the Shador being a bright spot that everybody wanted to watch. He was a bright spot when it came in production and making a playoff weekend and week out until he got. And he's probably a whole hell of a lot cheaper too. Yeah, for sure.

On the rookie contract, look, the rookies that Cleveland had, they played really well. Remember the linebacker was defensive player, defensive rookie in the year, Ocho. Swering, I think it's Swaringer or something. Yeah. I think he was defensive rookie in the year. Harold Fannie, Jr. was unbelievable.

Shador came in, and when he got an opportunity to play, he played really well. They got, they got some guys that can hopefully make some plays. And now they got two, the drafted two more guys. They need playmakers. I don't go to who the quarterback is. You better have somebody they can throw the ball to and can make it happen. Because that's what the football is. This is about, hey, putting the ball in your playmaker's hand and let them make plays.

The sooner that I can get it to you, the better. the offer I'm going to be. Hello. Cardinal's running back, Jeremiah Love, is dealing with a high ankle sprain and it's unlikely to play again in the preseason per Adam Shepter. The team is hopeful the number three overall pick and return for the regular season opener on September 13th against the charges.

Ocho? Hey, he ain't got to worry about it. Hey, Jeremiah, love, holl at your boy, I guarantee you you'd be ready for the next game. Hey, chat, somebody. Tell Jeremiah Love about my remedy when it come to spraying ankles. And I ain't never had an issue.

I was always ready. I like your remedy by staying on the ground. I like that one better. Yeah. Oh, that's how you heard it from Hurling? I don't know how he heard it. Hey, hey, hey. It ain't going to help it if you stay up in the air.

Hey, y'all, hey, listen. Hey, y'all can say what y'all want to about that young man, but man, that young man run hard, bro. Oh, he does, Joe. Hey, look, when I came on here and I said that, he reminded me an age. Adrian Peterson, I hadn't heard there, no word, but I've been hearing people say that they... Whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, slow down, slow down, Joe.

So who the hell said that? He ran hard, Ocho. Ocho, he run hard like AP, bro. I'm watching, Ocho. No, no, no, no. Hey, listen, he run hard, but no, don't know. The Adrian Peterson comparison, I ain't letting that fly. Not all of that.

Ocho, you must, I don't know what you were watching. I was watching him, Joe, but come on. We can't do that, nah. Ocho, that man, we're getting through that, bro. You see how hard that man? were running, but that ain't AB, that ain't A, that ain't. I said he showed flashes, man. I ain't said he AP.

Damn, he chose some flashes. A camera flash? Nah. Oh, man, he goes. It didn't man go. Are you kidding me? Hey, hey, slow down turbo. You didn't see... You didn't see... You didn't see that man running style

how you were hitting them gaps? I saw him, I saw him hitting them gaps. I seen him hit the A gap. I seen him on the tall sweep. I saw him on the counter. But boy, he ain't no AP. I don't know, he ain't know all day. He could go. But Adrian Peterson was different, boy.

You hear me? Hey, that man showed me. Stay with me, that, Joe. Okay, all right. All right. All right. Yeah, yeah, yeah. But, man, he showed me some flashes, Ocho, okay?

Okay, okay, okay. He showed me promise that he got a hell of a future back there. You hear me? Now, that he does have. There's a reason why it was the third pick, right? Yeah. Yeah, there's a reason why the third pick. But with the comparison to being all day,

who was one of the greatest runnerbacks to ever play this game. Ooh. That's a comparison, Ocho. You can compare players when they come into the league. Like, damn, man, he, hey, he reminded me all day, bro.

She, man, shoot, the devil is a lie. Hey, no, no, no, listen. They don't disrespect all day. Now, that boy, that was something serious, okay? Boy. And I think, hell, I think it was better after he came back off ACL. Hell, like, damn, what kind of ACL they put in this knee?

How did that man come back? How did men come back like that, bro? The A.C. Uncle Joe? Hey, that man was different. I don't know if they took part of his patella or they put a cadaver in there. Because, you know, sometimes they take cadavers and put it in the knee.

Hey, that boy hit the ground running. He now did hit the ground running. Yeah, but listen, Uncle Joe. And he would have had more. And he would have had more. Remember, he got in that little trouble for the situation with his son and he got on the commissioner's exempt list.

Right, right, right. He missed the whole season. So if we add, and that was still his prime. So if we add that, if we add another 13,400 yards to what all they got, he probably, I don't know, I think he probably 13,000 yards. He's probably at 14,000. Man. We probably look at another 10 touchdowns.

Amen. I just wish you to stay in Minnesota. Yeah. I hate that he went to the Saints and then the Saints moved on and he went to Arizona. And then he went to Washington. And then he went to Washington. I just wish you to stay. I just wish he could have stayed.

But you know, you know how they do you, especially when you play running back? You know, Emmett Smith. Huh? Yeah. You know, every great, every great, all the greats that you think and you would want to stay with one team and be a one team jersey, it just never happens. Even to the greatest runnerbacks of all time. Frank Gore, you know, he's another one. But outside of that, Chad, I need y'all to spam, brother Jeremiah, my love.

and tell him to Google my remedy and he's going to need his teammates. This is why it's called a team. There's no I am team for a reason. Tell his teammates to look at the remedy, you know, for high ankle sprains. And I guarantee you he's able to play next week. I guarantee you.

Yeah, send it to his Instagrams. It's preseason, Ocho. He ain't really worried about playing this week, man. Ocho said this is a having ready for the regular season. Yeah, yeah. He got, if he got, it ain't a... What's your remedy? What is it?

Huh? What's your remedy? Heat a urine. It's like red light therapy, but to hear you faster. Nah, that's yellow light therapy. I don't want to be. Yeah, yeah, same thing. Hey, listen, it's a home remedy.

It's a home remedy from back in the day. My grandma them used to you back in the village in Africa. And they used to warm up urine? Yeah, that's how you treat your injuries. I mean, I heard about guys in baseball peeing on the hands to tough it up their hands. Hey, see? No, I'm good.

Hold on, hold on. I seen where Ricky had, and wasn't he drinking his pee before the floor would make with Mayweather fight? Hey, hey, listen, I'm telling you. If you're stradd to the desert island, I mean, you stranded you can do that. Yeah. Drink your pee? Yeah.

Yeah, Joe. Yours now. You know. Hold on. Whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa. You got a cheer. You got to cheer. Hey, listen.

Oh, Joe, what you mean? No, I say, Joe. You ain't never had nobody pee on you, Joe? And now, man, why would I have somebody do that? Let me tell you something. Hey, Uncle Joe, this is something that y'all probably don't do chat. I'm not sure. I show don't do.

Whatever you about to say come out your mouth next, I don't do it. Listen, Joe, listen, Joe, you need to try this at home. You hear me? What I need to try? Where else I'm going to try that? Let me tell you, right? Listen to me. You know, hey, Joe, remember when y'all used to getting the cold tub?

Yeah. And you contrast from the cold tub to the hot tub. Yes. And you notice how all the blood flow. it tingles and that sensation it gives you from contrasting back and forth and then you feel fresh like you never like you never ran or jump and jump in coat

that's the same thing a golden shower can do for you but it has to be somebody you got to be your lady you got to be a lady I'm gonna throw up no no my lady ain't gonna never do it I'm gonna throw up no why did you throw up what you mean why I'm gonna throw up man somebody please somebody plea on me

Joe just hold your nose like and you gotta lay down on your back hey Joe tell you lady and make sure you You hold your nose and close your eye because they burn if you're getting your ass. My kids got me a couple of times, but I ain't fit to let no grown person. My kids got me.

Yeah, they got me. But my grown person, oh, hell. Wait, time out, time out. This ain't about being kiki or freaky. This is a part of therapy in rehab. What is a part of therapy in rehab? What I'm telling you? To let the...

What it does for the body, the toxins and urine, it purifies everything. It's your... Oh, Cho. No. It can't be yours. It has to be someone else. It got to be hers.

I ain't going. I ain't rolling. I ain't going. Hey, Joe. Listen to me. I look like I'll miss a couple of games, Joe. Y'all, hey, listen, this is why we can't get nowhere to society because we don't listen. We show it ain't going nowhere.

I ain't going nowhere. You're right, Houcho. I haven't been to hold you. You're right. We ain't going nowhere. If somebody got to pee on me for me to play, hey, y'all, hey, y'all hold it down. Man, good luck I have a day, you, fellow. Hello.

Hello. I don't know. What this man on, bro. Joe, I'd never been injured. And the times I was, I used this method to heal me much faster than any technology can. So what you did? Hey, so what you did? The girl, whoever you were dating, she gave you a golden shower?

Oh, yeah, Joe. Hey, Joe, listen, you got goggles? You'd be going swimming? Yeah, I go swimming. I really do swim for real. Put your goggles on. Put your goggles on. Okay.

You hear me? Yeah. And just wait. Make sure she drink apple juice. Why? Why apple juice? There's better apple juice than when the urine,

you know, when it comes down, ain't no smell to it. You hear me? Well, she should drink pineapple. It should be pineapples then. No, I like apple juice better. You know, hey, pineapple and make it,

it's a little sweet. It's a little sweet. Sometimes they're getting, Hey, Joe, sometimes they get in your mouth, Joe. See, I ain't, oh, Joe, I'm just to keep it real. It just sound too freaking for me. I'm just going to keep it real.

I just, I just ain't, I just ain't, I ain't, listen. I'm like, oh, hell, I'll miss a few games. If I got to go through that, I miss a few, bray. Hey, hey, ain't tripping. Let it go. What you're doing?

Yeah, I'm putting you all on games. I got limits. You know, behind closed doors, a lot of things have happened behind closed doors. Right. You got to draw the line somewhere, Ocho. At some point in time, you got to make a stand. See, this is what we call crossing the Rubicon. You don't go too far.

Hey, is. You don't go too far. Hey, you know, y'all have made me take my shades off, man. You know, I'm going to take mine off with you. That ain't happening for me. Listen. Listen, Joe, Uncle Joe. It's so frustrating trying to improve y'all's life, man,

with the experience that I've had throughout the years. It's really frustrating when y'all don't listen. But you act like, how you know we ain't having tons of fun over it? I'm having tons of fun over it. I'm going to keep it wrong with that. I'm talking about old shape. Joe, listen, Joe, listen, Uncle Joe, everything I've said since the time we started show for the past three years,

y'all have said no to it. That means you're not, you having fun, but you haven't kindergarten fun. It's time to graduate. I need to get the junior high. I need you to graduate the high school. I need you to graduate the college. Let me ask you a question. Come on, man.

When you were in high school, how many PE class are you had? When I was in kindergarten, they sent us out to play three times a day. Hello. I had a time of my life. I don't know what you're talking about. Hello. Hello. You had one PE class.

I don't know. You might have had two. But most people, most people in high school only had one PE class. Amen. There's nobody tried to do all that, man. Hey, listen, listen, and this is another problem. Like, a lot of us are scared to live in our truth, unk. And Joe's one of them.

How are you going to tell me how I'm living in my truth for now? A lot of us are scared to live in our truths because we're scared of what people would think. We know we're trying to protect an image. Listen, this is me. I've always been wild. I've always been open. I've always been a social butterfly.

I've always been willing to try and do anything because I don't care what people say. I don't care what people think about me. I'm going to always move to the beat of my own. own drum. I'm like to my own beat, right? So I'm trying to, trying to tell you guys in the chat, Unk and Joe, and bring new thing to your life that you would never probably even think about, let alone even try, let alone do. So I'm just asking you to try it. Those do you in the chat, that in relationships, try it. It will help. I'm telling you, some of the toys that I brought on here,

it's all about the experience. You don't have to, I like it. You don't have to, it's all about enjoying the experience. When you go to Knathbury Farm, when you go to Disney World, when you go to the movies, it's all about an experience. It's temporary. It ain't wrong. Nobody don't know. You can listen to P-Pot if you want to. But I ain't listen to the P-Pot.

Hey, I said P-E-Claz, not P-Claz. I ain't fooling with Ocho. Hey, nobody fooling with Ocho. I definitely not. I'm not listening to Ocho. Okay. Hey, I've lived 58 years. And the Lord spent my life, I'm going to live another several years.

Yeah. But I'm not doing, I'm not listening to Ocho. Hey, hey, just try it. No, I'm not. just tried. I'm not. No, I'm not. I'm good. I'm good. Right here where I am. You know what? And see, this is, this is, this is one of the issues with us.

It's what, it's. He ain't no issue, though. Ain't no issue? It is, it is, Joe, because we, we never want to try anything new. We always want to be, we want to be stuck in a box, huh? We want to stay within our comfort zone. And, and before you look at it, what I do. Listen, but I got limits, old, Joe. We, we 80, we 80 years old with no experience and, and, and then try anything. We didn't live. You're alive between living. There's a difference.

There's a difference. Even planes. Even a mark. There's limits to everything. Oh, how fast you can go. Even if you break the sound barrier, you still can only go so fast. Even you got a car that costs $10 million.

It still can only go so fast. Hey, but the whole point is being able to reach that speed limit. Y'all ain't even trying. You mean, you, you know, you're stuck. You all stuck in the schools on, You don't want to do nothing. You don't know how fast we're going over here, man? I know how fast you go as you said no to everything I suggest.

I just ain't that. I mean, you got a lot going on, brother. I mean, you ain't. I ain't going to lie to you. Joe, it's not a lot, Joe. I'm just living. You alive, but I'm living. There's a difference.

I'm living. You know, Joe, that's what I'm trying to tell you. No, Joe, I need you to add some more seedning to your food, Joe. But it ain't spices. It's spicy over here, Joe. I don't need no more seeding. I want to taste chicken. What kind of spices you use?

I don't want to taste all that paprika and black pepper and all that. I want to taste the chicken. Yeah. Hey, I guarantee the chat grew with me. I bet people in the chat they can try it. I bet you they're going to try it after they get off. Well, listen, listen.

They're going to try it. It's a couple freaks in the chat. Now, I ain't going to be delusion to act like any couple frees in the chat. I already know what going on. Yeah. I don't know. I ain't going to never judge nobody. That's all I'm saying.

Hey, chat. Hey, chat. The chat ain't number of family. The chat ain't none of family. The chat is nothing but an extended family of us. That's all it is. Hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, it's okay for them to be a little freaking in a chat.

Ain't nobody judging them, man. Yeah, that don't make y'all no bad chat. That don't make y'all no bad chat because y'all do that. I mean, if y'all want to listen to P.O. Cinco, that's okay. But I ain't, I won't know part of Pio Cico. What would you say? You don't make it no bad chat? No, that don't make y'all no bad chat.

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Boo. Uno on Cinco down there in Cincinnati. Don't get the hell out of here, man. Man, get out of here, bro. Hey, don't throw, Joe, don't, come on now. Nah, don't you. Don't piss me. Don't piss me off tonight, Joe.

No, don't you piss me all being delusional, now. No, I ain't delus. I'm just keeping it 100. Your 100 is in 99. Nah, it's 100. And picking the better than chasing T. Higgins. Man, what do you talk about? We didn't mention Marvin Harrison and Richard Wayne.

Yeah, yeah. All right, well, listen, listen. Hey, hey, guess what, fellas? We got work to do. We ain't worried about that. We don't mind no little work now. If that was you all talking about, we're going to put some work in, partner.

We ain't worried about that part. We can put Jerry with anybody. Anybody that played opposite of Jerry Rice is a part of the greatest duo ever, whether it's J.T. John Taylor, whether it's Tim Brown, whether it's T.O. anybody able to cross from him is part of the greatest deal ever because of how great Jay was.

But I'm anxious to see this offense when you put statements out like this on Joe, you already know, like you did. When you challenge DBs, you got to go out there and back it up. Oh, yeah, that's the easy part. That's the easy part because they've been doing it all their career. Hell, they were doing it in the high school. They were doing it in college.

And they've been doing it. They haven't been voicing it out loud, which I wish more receivers would do, even though it adds a little pressure on you, but it's entertainment, it's excitement, and it forced you to have to play at a high school. level weekend and week out call them boys out tell the world tell the NFL put defenses on notice listen we the best duo in the NFL that's how I feel I'm not

really worried about the history I respect those that came before me right but I feel me and George Piggins are the best duo I like it I live for that hey what is pressure hey what is pressure hey what is pressure hey what is pressure what is that part what is it ain't nothing it ain't nothing yeah that what I'm trying to tell you you talking about pressure they know pressure we like we gonna come out and do I want to I like the energy that's coming out of Dallas Look, we then took care of Big Quinny Williams, got Vaughn Miller to get in there.

Hey, listen, man, one side defense locked in. Okay, Ojo, boy, y'all ain't gonna be able to say foot nor ball when I come on here. You hear me? You hear me? Hey, Joe, listen, you're doing a whole lot of talking, right? You're doing a whole lot of talking, and ain't gonna be in the middle of that field,

in between them lines when that ball snap. But I'm gonna be talking the most-ish for the cowboy. You best believe that, partner. Yeah, y'all have met y' match tonight. You hear me? Yeah, then football out there, y'all have met y'all men. You and, uh, boy, I'm on y'all. I'm on y'all this year, boy in football, boy.

I'm telling you right now. It's not going to happen. It's not going to happen. You hear me? Stay with me real quick. Okay. I know you're happy. I know you're happy y'all got Vaughn.

You hit me? I know you're happy y'all got Caleb Down. Do you hear me? Yeah. I know you're happy because the beginning of the season, right? And obviously, every season, it's always like this. Everybody's on the high. Everybody's on the high at the beginning, like a relationship.

In the beginning, the first six months, oh, my God, it's beautiful. down to reality. And that's been, that's been the main thing and the main problem, the main issue for so long. Before the season starts, it's always, oh my God, it's so beautiful. You're on that high, like when you first meet somebody. But then reality sets in the postseason. Huh? You're six months in. You got, you got comfortable. You can say a sentence and, and, and she can finish it. You see what I'm saying? Hey, Ocho, you pick it up what I put down. Diamonds on my neck. Joe. Hey, Joe, I want you to be realistic, huh? I'm being realistic, bro.

You're too hiding yourself right now. And if you dis-hide, that means when you come crashing down, boy, it's gonna be bad, boy. Man, I ain't studying out. Hey, hey, hey, listen, I ain't studying all that, bro. We're gonna back everything we're talking about. We're gonna back it up. We're gonna back it up, but you ain't on the field, Joe?

What you mean? I'm connected, homie. I am a cowboy. What you mean? I'm locked in. What is you talking about? Huh? Are you lucky we ain't got y'all on the schedule this year, boy?

Hey, Joe, I got you something. Last time y' y'all played us, what happened, Joe? Man, you're talking about, see that. you go talking about old stuff again. That only it don't matter. We're in 2026. You're talking about something happening way back yesterday. You hear me?

You need to lock in. We're in 226, homie. Hey, late 2026. The hype train been the same in the past 30 years. Every every year. See, there you go. Stay the time about old stuff. I'm just saying.

There you go, I'm just saying. I'm just saying. I'm just saying I'm talking about old stuff again. I'm being honest with you. The hype train for the star in Dallas has been the same every all, every off season leading me into the season. In the regular season, oh, it's always beautiful. Oh, it's always awesome.

But when it matters most, What's always happened, Joe? When it matters most, what's always happened, Joe. This man, they're talking about old stuff. Old stuff, we can't even control. It's gone. That's history. I mean, listen.

That's history. What is history? What is history? What is history? History is old stuff, ain't it? It's old news. It's old news. It's old with.

Hey, Joe, can I tell you something, Joe? What'd you want to do? I'm a positive dude, right? Okay. I wish the Cowboys, none but the best. Okay, we appreciate that. All right. We appreciate that.

Yeah. I don't know what that is. Man, you're all too, man. I can just imagine. What is it going to be like doing football season? Can I say something real quick, Unk? Listen to me. He's talking a whole lot of trash

for somebody that ain't going to take one snap. But we're going to back it up. I bet you we back it up. I bet you we back it up. Everything he says, they got to go out there and back it up. And if they don't, every week we come on here, boy I'm gonna let you have it boy boy you don't think them boys listen to this

you don't think they listen to us you don't think they see what going on you don't think they see they got somebody who got their back partner boy don't go out there and show out stop playing with them man listen listen listen all them boys watch the show they might not watch it live but everybody see the clip Joe everybody see the clip Joe so I'm just telling you you doing a whole lot of talking about somebody ain't going to take one snap offensively or defensively

so you're going to have them boys in trouble and that's your problem you worry about the wrong thing partner You worry about the wrong thing. You worry about the wrong thing, Ojo? Okay. Yeah. Okay. Yeah.

Amends on my neck I being? Yeah. East side, west side, north. Ha ha ha ha. Weep. Okay. Here's something we can sing our teeth into three-time Pro Bowl cornerback, Devon Witherspoon, and the Seahawks have reached an agreement.

Four years, $132 million, $101 million guaranteed, making him the highest-paid corner in NFL history. Ocho. Yes, sir. Spoon, reset the market. Yes, so. Just two years ago, the grand rate for a corner was about 20 million. Yes, sir.

Here we are now, two years later, it's $33 million. Yeah. Gonzalez up there saying, a Patriots. Yeah. Oh, he's going to reset it again. Yes, sir. It's going to cost you $34 million. Yeah.

It's getting up there, too. As difficult as a cornerback position has been, over the years to me. A lot of people will probably disagree with me, but I think playing quarterback is the most difficult position outside of quarterback. So it is.

Almost even, because you think about all these receivers, all these very talented elite receivers. You got a mirror. You have to do everything in front of them, but backwards. Yeah. You know, so Witherspoon,

I mean, Witherspoon, he's definitely deserving. If you watch them, I've been watching them, you know, over the years, one of my favorite defense backs, another player that I really, really enjoy watching that play for the Detroit

Detroit Lions. It's Brian Branch as well. So these are two or two of my favorites that don't get mentioned enough when to come to secondaries or elite defensive back and safety play. He's very, very worthy of this, man. I'm excited for him. I'm excited.

Eagles, y'all can only play one. Quignan, Mitchell, or Cooper DeJon, you can only pay one. Hey. I can tell you who it's going to be. Who? I'm just telling you who they can what they can do.

But, John Mitchell, what might be top three right now. Hey. It's about man to man. I don't know who the eagle the defense coordinator is,

but I know one thing, yeah, you go over there. Oh, Brother Fangio? Listen, you know, I need to do me a favor.

I need you to hold down his left side. Play man to man so I can worry about everything else, everywhere else. That, because you know,

they got Tareg Wolin. They got Wollin now and they move DeJon to safety, and then they're going to move Jejohn to the slot, you know, come, uh,

when they bring nickel on the field. Man, that's not fair. And you got them two hogs sitting up there on the front line, too? Yeah. Man, stop playing. So Gonzalez is going to be looking for a huge payday. He's going to be looking at 34 million now. Quinion, he going to be looking at 34, 35 million.

And guess who's coming back to the table? He's like, hey, you don't have to see me again. Pat? Pat. Oh, okay. Pat. Yeah. They're probably, all of them guys good, but man.

Hold on. We ain't pat up, though. He, he's coming back. He's on the second year of it. Oh, okay. He's like, bro. He's like, bro, I signed this $23, $24 million deal. They're already making $10 million more than me.

Oh, no. They're going to come back to him. He is a smooth and is gifted on the corner. His technique, he got the prettiest technique I've ever seen in a corner. Hey, to be that. I didn't lie. He's effortless. To be that damn tall, huh?

He tall is. I tall is old, Joe. He's legit. He's legit six three. Yeah. And legit. I ain't talking about, I ain't talking about no. Oh, no, he's six two.

He's six one. No, he legit. He might be, boy, he's tall, tall. Yeah. I'm talking about arranging. Man, it's arm. Man, that's going to walk, knuckles, knuckles just bruised up. They scrub the ground, Joe.

Man. Joe, he's nice. But that technique. He nice. Yeah. Most of the time, especially for tall corners, when you get him in space or you get them to turn their hips,

you know, they get kind of awkward because they show them. He can swivel them hips, don't you? Yeah, but he play corner, even though he's six, three, but he plays small. I don't know if that makes sense. You know what I mean? He's really, really, really good.

Yeah, he really, yeah, he real got, yeah, his hips, he could turn and get up out of there. You know, he got four, four speed. he play at all. He play it all. He really, really good. But I'm not surprised. I'm not surprised.

And I told Ocho, I told Ocho there, I said, Ocho, they're going to let a spoon go. They're going to let her, what you call him, Bole? I mean, he's gone. Yeah. I said, why you say, man, they got, I said, Ocho, the distractions. He do too many, too many things,

bone head plays on the field. And they can't pay him. They can't pay them. They can't. You got two guys like that? because now it's like when they play those two guys, they pay those two D tackles. Now how are you going to pay two corners?

Yeah. And Jaila Hertz. Now, what are you going to do with Jaila Hertz? Jaila Hurst contract up too? He's going to be looking for a payday. Damn. Well, the Eagles window is right in that too, boy. Yeah, you got to.

A window is right now. But, man, but, he's earned that payday. Three pro bowls. You saw what he did in that playoff run last year. him and Wolling, it was unbelievable. But he's been that guy, you know, since he got in. Yeah. And with him and Wolling on one side, both of them had elite speed.

That defensive front was unbelievable. And once they brought Ernest Jones in, he solidified everything. He shut everything down the road and the run, made sure everybody was where they needed to be, where they were supposed to be. They got a really, really good team. They got another, they got another two or three years in this window right here. But spoon A hundred and thirty two million

Well how much you get How much guarantee? 101 Oh It probably gained They probably gave 50 mil And signing They gop that boy down there

Man Damn boy if y'all were born just a little later I told my mama that My mama had her last kid I was done My mom had her first kid at 17, the last one at 25. Mama said, I'm done. Out of there.

Hey. Mama said, that's a rap. Damn. I say, see, but look at that. You had two boys. Look at that. This is matter you to have another two boys. You might have four boys in the league.

That's all right. Damn. She said, I had my back hurt with your big ass. Hey, hold up. Did y'all mama play in the sports? you're my mom plays sports my dad plays sports my dad out of scholarship you couldn't go to, hey, you got a kid

where you're going? Right. To work? That's what you go on. Hey, they ain't had no NIL back back in the 60s. Man, you know, hey, man, Barney Porter went playing that. Hell, they ain't have NIA in the late 90s.

You know a job and pay for the kid. Yeah. Hey, hey, they ain't had N I in the late 90s here. I thought I was going to give me. me some back, some back pay. They say they were going to start getting people back pay if you had been out of college for, I think, like

eight to ten years. Yeah. Yeah, I started counting. I'm done, been out of college 20-something years, man. Exactly. Hey, hey, Joe, I was telling me my homeboy talking and said, man, I've been out of college 35 years. 35, been out of, we had our

high school reunion. I've been out of college. I've been out of high school 40 years. It goes quick, don't it, man. Yeah. Faulty. Damn. Faulta. Mm-hmm.

It's bad. Nah, hell, nah. But, no, I came along with the right time. It would be a problem for me because I love

winning too much. I take it too seriously. I take it too serious. Yeah. And this goofing around and all this want to be, you know, wanting the clicks and likes

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