Nightcap - Best of NFL News Part 1: HEATED DEBATE: KD or Ant Man to lead their team in the playoffs?! Giannis' FAKE LOVE for Bucks is only for his Nike shoe contract!

Episode Date: April 11, 2026

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We're not talking historically. We're talking for the 20, 26 playoffs. I think Ant Man, I don't even think it's a debate. Duran has won one playoff series since he left Golden State. Ant Man has won fourth series in the last two years. Joe? Boy, that's a. That's a good argument.

I can't own. And it's closer than you're thinking. Like he said, we're not talking about. about historically. We're talking about right now. He says, Kevin the Rand has won one playoff series. Yeah. One. I like, and I, listen, man, I love both of those guys' game. I think the way Ant Man competes, you know, he let it be known. Yeah, yeah, yeah. I'm out here to kick LeBron ass. I'm out here to kick Katie ass. I'm out here. I'm going

at these boys. Y'all hear what he told Obama? Yeah. Tell me, y'all better, y'all better watch out. Yeah, I'm a bad boy. Huh? Man, you got a love that, bro. You got to love that. Not only that, he goes out there and backs it up. He plays hard defensively. He guards.

And then he can take over a game. I can see what Brian, I can see where he's at on this. Yeah. It's not as far-fetched as people think. I think the thing is that people look at historically and they look at the time with Kevin Durant at Golden State. And KD is a bad boy.

Don't get me wrong. But until... There's this perception, be it true or imagined, that KD and the postseason, hasn't enjoyed a level of success outside of Golden State, be it true or imagined. But the facts lined up. I think. He got, remember, he got swept. His last, he got swept in the Nets.

The Nets got swept by Boston. Yeah. He got, he got. swept in Phoenix. Yeah. Hey, look what they were playing with, though.

That's not even... That they conjection. Oh, whoa, what, see? You see what they did? When did they ever said that about the bra? Do they ever say, look when LeBron was playing with you or what they say?

But we talk, we talk about, we talk about Edman and KD. Yes. But look, what, what Ant Man got? Wait, look,

what Ant Man got? Yes. You do realize that KD got swept with Kyrie. Was Kyrie any good? Absolutely. What about Devin Booker? Devin Booker any good?

Okay. Be careful enough? Joe, I'm just asking, I don't know. Joe, Joe, the basketball out fishing. So we got to have somebody that's great and everything. You're the soccer guy. That's you. Ocho, come to soccer.

Yeah. Bo, Joe, the guy. Basketball, we go to Joe. Joe, is Kyrie? Yeah, yeah, he's some good. Y'all know he's some good. In Brooklyn, they got swept. Boston Swepper.

Is Devin Booker any good? Yes. You're talking all NBA players. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. I think, I think the most disheartening

thing when it comes to fans and people who speak on the game of basketball, especially. No, stop it. Hold on. Hold on. Hold on. Hold on.

Don't. Go ahead. I'm going to finish your point, but I just saw something coming on. Dillon with Katie. Dilling with Katie is that yeah. they lost to the Warriors

and then he went and joined them that's I said the same thing I think people have a hard time respecting that although he was up three one yeah yeah three one he was up three one you're supposed to put them boys away but although he didn't go to the Warriors

and piggyback I mean hell he still led him he was the MVP of them two champions he was the finals MVP twice what you mean that one's bad yeah he was the he was the finals MVP If it wasn't for him, hell, they wouldn't win. No, he wasn't no passenger. People didn't stop saying that he was a passenger.

Kevin and Rand was not no damn passenger. Hey, I ain't going to lie. Brown was at his apex damn, boy. Hey, listen, that's the only player you probably could have winning guy that was going to get you. That was the only one. And that's why they wouldn't have. Because he were giving them.

There's no way, there's no way that team, that 73 and 9 team after LeBron walked them down, 3-1, they were psychologically done. Kyrie was at his apex. They had no answer. They had no answer for Kyrie. They had no answer for LeBron. It was over.

They had to go get a neutralizer. And Kevin Durant was it. Now, y'all said, Kyrie was hurt and James Haram was gone. Cairo was not hurt when they got swept by the Celtics. Don't do that now. Kevin Durand is great. He's historically great.

but the facts of the matter is the facts of the matter it's kind of like y'all have revisionist history and y'all try to run and blend everything together don't do that they got swept Boston swept him

then he went to he went to uh uh Phoenix Phoenix yeah just saying so it's not as far out of the it's not out of the

the realm of possibility I can see why Brian Wynhorst said what he said. And you wouldn't be wrong if you disagree. Right now. Excuse me. Yeah, right now, it's a lot of people who take AntMan over KD right now. Yeah. I just say, you know what, Joe, and I could be wrong.

And I want to want you to let me look you think. It seems like as a player gets older, even though if he gives you the same numbers that he once gave you, they don't impact the game like you once did. The numbers don't. I think although Katie, he's forever going to be an efficient score, I mean, he makes it look easy. But there was once a point of time where I ain't saying he was, you know, an all defensive player, but, you know, he was blocking shots. He would play some defense.

Okay, O. Which, I mean, hell, he's seven foot. You know what I mean? Yes. And I just. Especially go to state. He was doing a lot of real. Yeah, he was.

Yeah, he was. I think now, you know, he just got that thing. cruise control on offense where you know what i'm gonna get y'all 25 to 28 a night you know i'm give you a few rebounds few dimes but for the most part i mean 37 years old he he'll bucket still yeah he still give you 20 23 24 points a night 20 25 points a night and he's still shooting in in the 50s he just need so he need them young he need them young bucks to do the bulk of the uh the heavy lifting, meaning defensively, you know,

rebounding. I mean, that was, his thing was, in the Golden State, he was a tremendous help defender, like you said, he was seven foot tall. I mean, what seven foot do you know he's sitting in a chair? And he's not, he's not Elijah one. That's not what he's not a day. I mean, you know, he's not that type of defender.

He's just not. But he did, what they asked him to do, he did very well. Yeah, yeah, he did. But this notion that Kevin and ran, oh, he went to the Golden's and kick, no, he didn't kick, hey, had he not going to Golden State, they're not winning no two more championships.

They're not winning those back. They're not winning those back to back championship in 17 and 18. That ain't happening. And if he doesn't get hurt, they don't win back to back. They win three peeped. Yeah. I don't care what people say. Toronto not beating him.

Not if he can be healthy. Oh, serious. It's hard when you, because offensively, he just had too much firepower. You couldn't double nobody. You just kind of had to live with it. because, look, I played against them guys in the playoff series when I was in Utah, the Warriors, in the first championship run.

We played against them in the second round. Boy, we're getting to it, Joe. They smoked, y'all's what you mean? Like a blunt. Huh? They were on that pat? They were on the bag. Listen, hold, Joe.

They swept their first round series, so they had been waiting 10 days. We won seven games against the clippers, and we won games. heaven. We had one day of rest and then we had to play. Shit, the man, they tow off with us. They wasn't anything we can do with them, boy.

I don't know. Look, I think once KD, a point guard, I think that's what they're missing this year. And guess what? It's going to get harder and harder for these older guys to win championship, Joe. This league is getting young

and young and these guys are good. That's why I think these dudes going to some way somehow. I don't know how. I think Brian, Katie, or Yonanis, I don't know how. Two of them going to end up on the same team. Two of them going to end up on the same team. You watch what I tell you.

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K, 13 points, 10 assists in his return from injury. Cade had in place in sustaining a collapsed lung in a win against the Wizards on March 17th. He appeared comfortable playing 26 minutes in short stints tonight. Jalen Duren had 21 points, 9 rebounds. J.B. Beckerstaff kept all five starters under 30 minutes. The Pistons won for the six-time and eight games. Well, I mean, hell, he could have paid him under 25 minutes. He played the box.

Day and turmoil right now, ain't there. The box. Yeah. Hey. There ain't no more fear of deer. People got the deer head on the wall. Don't nobody fear the deer no more. Joe, you remember they fear the dude.

Right, right, right. Bucks fans. Hell, Kay. Well, y'all got, y'all got booed week alone. Yeah, Kate didn't even have to play tonight the way, the way Pist has been playing. They, I mean, the Bucks got so much turmoil going over there. They didn't need Kate tonight, but I'm sure they tried to get him acclimated

before the postseason start. You got to get him some run, man. You got to get him some run, Joe. You don't want that man going to play out. Yeah. Man, that joke along's a lot. I already, I already know. But they got so many, hey, they kind of, they're similar to the,

the Hawks too because they got so many guys who they can throw at you in waves. You know what I mean? Guys who play pivotal minutes throughout the season because K was out. You know, they were still able to still keep that number one seed in the Eastern Conference. So that lets me know, man, they got, look,

they got guys who can come off the bench and get to their chicken, okay, Ojo. The pistol's going to be tough, man. They hang their head on defense and they got a game changer in K they're going to be in good shape. And you look, I think a key for them, Joe, is that come playoff time,

how consistent can Duncan Robinson and Hurdleman shooting the three? Because we've seen Duncan Robinson catch fire with the heat and we've seen Hurder. You know we're at Rifle when he was in Atlanta. We've seen him in Sacramento in Chicago. So we know

what he's capable of. Can they keep everybody honest from Pack and Lane because Kay's going to try to break down your defense? Now, if you You try to, hey, somebody saying help, I'm going to kick it to one of those guys. And can they knock down the three? But I agree with you. You know, he's like, look, it ain't going to take much for us to beat them.

They don't quit. Let's go ahead. Let's go ahead and help them finish quitting. Let's jump on their ass, sir. And, hey, they tried to get a lot of it. Listen. They ain't no say. But if you're the pissings, I'm going to tell y'all, man, that Hornets team,

they scare it on the Ocho. Oh, my God. And if they get that A seed and you plan, against the pistons playing the Hornets. Yeah. Hey, man, I don't know if the, I don't know if the hornets can beat them, but I think they could, I think they'll make it, they scare the hell out. They'll make it very interesting.

They make it seven games. I don't know if they'll make it seven, Ocho, but I just like the Hornets, man, because they play great basketball, they play together. And if Lamello can continue to play at this mega star level that he's been playing at for like the past month or two, man, they're going to be tough to be, bro. They got so many guys who can score the ball. They play the right way. They play hard.

They gritty defensively. So they're a scary team. You don't, I mean, they are ascending. They've been ascending since about the new year probably since about January and February. So it ain't, there ain't no team who you want to see, bro. I watched them play against Boston the other night. I think it was last night, if I ain't mistaken. And they had control of the whole game and ended up losing, you know, in that second half.

But for the most part, man, they can hang with anybody. the way they shoot the three, they're gonna get a bunch of them up. And on, in that stretch that you was talking about, Joe, that two months, a lot of them was falling. You go back and look and they were 20 or 43. There was 25 of this. And they had, I was like, well, damn,

because you got Mello, can go get your 30 on a given night. Kineppel can go give your 30 on a given night. Miller, you got Miles, you got bridges. So you got guys. You got, what, what's my guy? coming off the bench from Chicago. Oh, Kobe White. Yeah.

Yeah. So they got guys, like you said, I don't know if they can beat them, but they can scare the hell out of them. They go like, damn, I show them we didn't have to play them in the first round. And they're just young enough and naive enough to not know any better. There you go. There you go. Because, see, when you don't understand the magnitude of the games

because you rely on a few rookies, you know what I mean? Like anything can happen, bro. Like, look, I love Khan Knieppel. He ain't just no spot-up three-point shooter. I seen him go on the dribble, shoot the midi, get to the basket. Like, they got a lot of guys, man, who can beat you in many different ways. You know, the Hornets have been a fun team to watch. They have.

They have. But I'm glad to see. I'm glad to see Kay back. I think it might be a little bit too late. I don't think he's going to be able to qualify for any of the wards. I mean, he's out, damn them. I mean, he last played, he got injured against the Wizards on March 17th. And here he is coming back today.

It's the eighth. So he's a couple of days, you know, basically a couple of days short of being out of month. Yeah. So I think he's probably missed too many games to be, because I think he's going to be a first or he was going to be a first or second team. Oh, no question. Now, that's out of the equation. And what that does, Ocho, and guys, we're going to have probably two guys that miss it.

K. Hell, Ant man, going to be. They're not... Man, so that's three guys. So guess what that does, guys? That brings somebody that wasn't going to make it. That moves somebody from second team to first team. Somebody from 13 to second team.

And that takes somebody three guys that weren't going to be make it. They're going to make it. And guess what that does? That puts them in line for a Max or Super Mike's contract. Hey, hey, hey. So here's the thing. NBA, why you tried to... While you tried to do one thing, clean up something on one end,

you make it dirty on the other end. Because guess what you did? You're going to have guys that probably are just like French players that they're going to have an all-NBA selection on their resume. And all NBA selections, that means, guess what? I'm in line for a max and a super max contract. So while you hurt somebody, while you might have hurt a K or Luke or Ant-Man,

because they're already playing on that number, and I'm sure next year they'll be able to play and get right back there would you take a guy that might not be an all NBA selection

and he and guess what don't matter I got this for my record that's all that's all that counts that's all that counts because when we go to the negotiating table you know I got this in my back pocket

now what you're going to tell me you got to run that little bread you got to run that little bread oh Joe well you know we don't I don't know what you think, but this is what I know. What I know is that one of those three, all in big, so that basically said, I'm a top 15 selection.

Right. So guess what? Somebody was going to be 16, 17, 18. All of a sudden is going to be 13, 14, 15. Yeah. Oh, my goodness. So now you get to add that extra year. Now you get to add $50, $60 million in the fifth year.

Yeah. So NBA, I know you tried to do all good, but no good D goals are punished. Man. It's some guys looking at it right now. I'm talking about, they're like, ooh-wee. I know I'm next in line. I'm going to make third team now. Oh, yeah.

Yeah. We're in the money. We're in the money. Hey, it's a good thing for those players that are friends players that might not ever have, might not ever have the opportunity. You know, to be first or second team all NBA. selections where you get to get to get to that bag man hey hey you be a joe y'all remember uh players club with uh what's it called me came in there hey uncle luca honey hey hey hey hey what about

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you get your podcasts. I'm John Green. You may know me as the author of The Fault in Our Stars, and now I guess also is the co-host of The Away End, a brand new world soccer podcast. I'm Daniel Alarcon, a writer and journalist, and John and I have known each other since we were kids. My first World Cup was Mexico 86. I was nine years old. I watched every game, and I fell in love. On our new podcast, The Away End, we'll share with you the magic of international football, all leading up to the 2026 World Cup.

For us, soccer, football, is a story we've shared for over 30 years since Daniel was the star player on our high school soccer team. Very debatable. And I was their most loyal and sometimes only fan. I love this game. I love its history, it's hope, it's heartbreak, and above all, it's beauty. Together, we'll find out why, of all the unimportant things, football, soccer is the most important. Listen to the away end with Daniel Auerkone and John Green on the IHeart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. I'm Daniel Jeremiah. And I'm Greg Rosenthal. And this is 40s and free agents. The games may be over, but the NFL never stopped.

This is my favorite part of the calendar. Yeah, mine too, Greg, free agency, the combine, the NFL draft pro days, trades. This is where teams reshape their future. This is where Daniel Jeremiah makes his money. On 40s and free agents, we break down every move that actually matters. From my draft evaluations, mock drafts, and team fits to my top 101 free agents and how real rosters are built, cap space, contracts, and. all the tough decisions included.

You got quarterbacks on the move. We got teams rebuilding. It's hope season. Yeah, absolutely. It's hope season. We'll tell you what's real, what's noise, and what it means for your favorite team. Smart analysis, real conversations every week.

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They actually lead to our greatest contributions because, is when we're living fulfilled, we actually show up better everywhere. We lead better. We're better friends. We're better relationships and collaborators and all those things because we have passion about the things we're doing. If you're trying to build something of your own this year, join us in these conversations that will make you braver and smarter with your money. Listen to Dos Amigos as part of the Michael Tutta Podcast Network, available on the IHard Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcast.

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or wherever you get your podcasts. Oh, he's back. After the Lakers lost last night, JJ Redick crawled out their entire team. On Ruud, he wasn't doing his job. I took his ass out. He didn't say ass out of the ass part. On Vando, it was a confluence of things he did wrong.

Damn. On Aiton, he can't catch the ball. Redick also said, also got into, on the sideline with Vando, Reddick called timeout, just 16 seconds until the second quarter to sub Van Doe out for the game telling don't connect the check-

in his place. Vando walked over and let him hear it. Joe, are the cracks starting to show with the- Well, I don't want to say the cracks are starting to show. Man, you got to look at it from this standpoint. I mean, damn, you got two of your best players out, you know, who makes the game easier for everybody else. Now, if those guys are out and you putting Vando and these guys in advantageous situations to where now, they got to do, they got to do, they got to do stuff offensively that they're not accustomed to doing or, you know, basically playing both fans of the court. Like, yeah, it's going to be some mishaps.

It's going to be some, you know, some grunts, some players disgrunt to because of, you know, there's not many opportunities, man. These ain't guys who you just throw the ball to and they can go get you a bucket. They play great out for your great players. You know what I mean? So now that Luca and AR is out, I mean, hell, Brun didn't play. Damn, what, Ocho? What y'all want us to do?

What y'all want me to do? And that's what Vandos said. So, hold on, no Bron, no AR, no Luca. And then you hadn't played Don't connect since Hammer was a hatchet. And now all of a sudden, you're going to, 16 seconds? I just got it easy. And we play. I ran on the court.

And we're playing against OKC, the best team in the damn league. They just beat us by 50 the other day. Hey. And now they came back and got us by 30-7. Go ahead, Ocho. I say, coach got to know, man. You got the know. I understand.

Oh, know your personnel, Joe. No. But know your personnel. You're too honest. He can't be that artist. Because he ain't lie. DeAndre Aten got the worst hands I've ever seen. You know what?

I noticed that too, man, because I'm like, he do be missing a lot of, you know, them look. Yeah. But, man, you, I mean, that's, I don't think that was a, uh, well, I think for, for JJ, it was a situation to where he could make a point. You know what I mean? Like, listen, I'm going to put my foot down. We're going to get our ass kicked tonight,

but I'm going to chew off in these dudes' ass tonight. But that just goes to show you. Look how those guys look. Look how those guys look. OKC look when Shay and Jalen Williams weren't playing. Look how they look. Now look how Lakers players look when they big guns don't play. Look at other teams when their big guns don't play how they look.

Well, damn. And y'all talk about the Lakers. Ooh, the Lakers loaded with what? With what? With what? They got two. How many, how many, Joe, be honest. How many quality minutes are those guys getting up there on other contingent teams?

None. I mean, for the Lakers, you just got too many key guys out. I mean, look, Marcus Smart out with Luca Brun. I mean, damn, what you expect? I just expect, Joe, if I throw you the ball, you to kick it. That's all I want you to do. And don't let it go out of bounds. And the man saying it was a confluence of things that he did wrong.

But damn, other than having a jury, they took in and chuck it in the game. That was the only thing he seemingly did right. That was what, that was, that was you playing. You arguably playing against the best defensive team in the league, man. These dudes, they stingy. They ain't giving them nothing. Okay, see. No matter who heard.

Well, okay. I can understand that. But here's the thing, Joe. Like you said, you was in the right spot, even I'm going to be where I'm supposed to be. So we cut the tape on. I'm where I'm supposed to be. So I can't let who we play it dictate how I play, Ocho. I'm going to be where I'm supposed to be.

I'm going to do what I'm supposed to do. It seemingly, I couldn't. be wrong. I could be totally out base. But JJ wasn't pleased. The one thing about the little while that I did work with him, he's a very, very serious guy.

And he ain't got no problem. He's going to tell you. No, that ain't what happened. Nope. He's very meticulous with notes. I mean, he come out there and he knows like he should have been a lawyer because his notes are immatically wrote. Yes, yes.

He's like he writing to just takes you absolutely. I'm like, well, damn. My, my, my, my, my, my, my nose don't look nothing like this. Hell, my nose probably only I can read it. Somebody get his nose, they're going to be able to read everything because it's so, I mean, to the tea. To the tea.

Yeah. Yeah, he got nose like that. So I'm, I, uh, I'm just concerned about sometimes, like, Like I said, the coach said, like my coach told me one time, I said, Sean, sometimes I got a lot to them. Sometimes I got to tell them they're good when they're not. Sometimes I got to tell them they're doing a good job when they're not. Hey, listen.

I mean, think, think about it, though. Think about it. I think, I think with the Lakers getting embarrassed last night at home, fellas. I think that's really what said JJ off. you know, you put, you making, you make, you know, put, brush that under the rug on the road. But when you at home in front of those Lakers, that Laker crowd. Yeah, yeah, you got to. Regardless of who.

Just play hard. Just play hard, Joe. Joe, they quit. Joe, you do your, hold on. At one point in time, the score was 43, was 42, 42. I look back up, the score 63. 47. That sound about right.

No, 60, yeah, like 69, 47. But anyway, I think they went on like a 20, they went on like a 23, a 25, 5 or 275 run. Jeez. Yeah. The score was 4242. And then they go on a 27, they go on like a 255 or 275.

Man, but listen, Lake is depleted. The O'KC Thunder, they're healthy, they're fully healthy. They're ready for the post season. Okay, Ocho. They ain't playing no games. Joe, can I just get you to play hard? Can I get you to be where you're supposed to be?

If I throw you the ball, catch it. Even if you missed the shot. But, Joe, if I throw you the ball and it goes out of bounds, then what I'm supposed to do? If you're not where you're supposed to be on defense, if we got, if we, if we call them for a pick at the top, bro, why I got to keep, go set the pick? Why I got to keep doing that?

Because, why I got to keep saying, get over, get it. Over. The lights bright over there in L.A. Huh? And all the jokes, all the jokes that they've been playing. They've been in the NBA while.

Ruy's been in the league far too long. Whoa, whoa, whoa. They've been in the NBA for a while. They ain't been at Lakers under them type of lights and that type of pressure for a while. It's a difference. Your big guns out. Your big guns are not playing.

Roy has been in those situations. Roy was on a team that went to the Western Conference finals against Denver. Roy was in the situation when they played when they were on the road and he hit big shot after big shot. Joe, you remember he's in a big shot after big shot against Memphis. He and AR damn this single-handedly

him that game. Because, hey, LeBron's like, nope, he kept beating him. Kept feeding him. And then LeBron got him back to when they got back to L.A. Brian said, y'all, y'all done. Yeah.

It's over. It's over for y'all. and he had that monster game, the last game. But I think, and that's why I couldn't coach it. That's because you got a lot. That's because they were expecting too much from Aiden last night. Just keep it 100. I mean, from a number one overall draft pick that's seven foot tall that's in a contract year,

I'm expecting too much. Yeah, because the guys who he typically playoff of, hell, they ain't out here tonight. I ain't like Aiden can get the rebound and bring it up like a point. He got the, you know what I mean? Like, but I gave him the ball, Joe. He gave it back to him. That's what I'm saying. I'm saying.

I'm saying, he's been playing like this, Uncle, what I'm saying, I'm saying, but the fact that you've had A.R. Luke and Braun out there, hell, that shit goes by the wayside. But now that they ain't out there, now it's very glaring because it's... It's magnified.

Yeah, everything is magnified when those guys are not there to cover it up. Yeah, so now, yeah, you're going to use him as a scapego. Yeah, he... He's sick of age and stuff. Yeah. Yeah, he's an aide can't catch the ball. And that's how it is.

Sometimes, I mean, you got to be playing like poop, but you had guys to pick the poop up and cover it up. Now, where there's nobody there to pick it up or cover it up, you're like, well, damn, is everybody just going to let their dog just go out here? Because I'd be walking. I'm like, bro. It makes me mad.

The guy, hold on. You pick the poop up, put it in the bag, and then throw the bag on the ground. You should have just left the dog. there. I mean, Joe, how sorry do chat? How sorry do you have to be? You pick

up behind your dog and then instead of carrying it and putting in the trash can at your home, you throw the bag on the ground with the poop in it. Hey, that's why I walk my dog at night. I don't take that don't. We're going to link. Let's go. Come on, Joe, Joe.

See, Joe, get some bag to pick a dog. Come on, Joe, don't be that guy. Hey, that's why I walk my dog at night, Ocho. Hey. Oh, you don't pick up? You don't pick up at the dog, Joe? Hey, listen, I ain't got no bag or nothing, man.

We just out there. Get the bag, Joe. Joe, come on, Joe. And that man be dropping some loads. I got, Joe. You know the mastiff? I have, no, you don't. I've had two bull masters.

I've got a Borgle. I've got a Mekita. Yes, I got the giant-sized, bag. And some of sometimes it'd be like a dark cream cone and say, bro, get up.

Bro, get up. Bro, about to get. And, you know, for a dog to go in front of you, that means he trusts you because that's the most vulnerable. That's why the dog's looking at you? People are like, well, why the dog

looking at me? Because he's like, okay, you got me, right? Because you know I'm in the morrow of a season. It's just like if you were on the toilet, somebody could beat the brakes off you. Why you're like to know? Oh, man. You don't want somebody to run down on your old choke?

But that's a man, don't, don't, hey, just let me put my clothes on. Hey, and don't let it be running, too, boy, I'm damn sure he's picking it up, Uncle. I'm sorry. Yeah, I got it. Hey. No, sir.

Hey, hey, I remember my brother, my grandma beat, my brother had, my brother did something, and my brother didn't have no shirt on. My brother, he didn't, you're going to beat me like this? You damn right. Shut down on him. He thought he going to put it,

he thought he'd be going to let him put that t-shirt on. Uh-uh. Gratty said, and you. And you know my Grady had to tell him, yeah, I had to shut down on that boy ass.

Well, my grandma was a snitch. That's why I got it from, my grandma tell it. Yeah. But JJ told the truth. Max Kellerman says that he would rather have Cooper Flag over Luca Donchitz

coming into the NBA. I would rather have Cooper Flag over Luca. I like his style of play. I like Luca as better playmaker, but Luca is a defender. But Luca is a defense. defender. Cooper is excellent. Cooper Flag is one of these actual

that can defend one through five level players. He's an athletic and he has a style I like which can lead to winning and a championship. He can be the best player on the championship team. I would say he's the best teenager since LeBron. Well, that's not really, that's not really going out on the limb. Because his numbers is better his rookie yet than LeBron. But I don't, I mean, I don't, I mean, I don't get me wrong. I'm a Cooper Flag fan. I like him. I like everything about him. He's been thrust into a situation. But man, dude, I don't know. A lot of people don't remember when

Luca first came into the league, bro. He probably was about 20 pounds slimmer. You know what I mean? He used to go through that lane and dunk that ball. You know what I mean? He, he a hell of a shooter, a hell of a score. Obviously, he understands angles. He has a high IQ for the game. but you can't take that for granted, man. He ain't like he's 6-2-6-3 out here now. Let me ask you a question. If I take Cooper Flag

and I take Cooper Flag and I put him on that Dallas team and I remove Luca, can he do what Luca did with doing to the clip? No. With Kauai, PG, and all those defenders. See, I think some people,

you lose sight of just how great Luca is. And I get it. He's not, he's not the, and mostly time, guys, because I think when we get guys that can score a bunch of points, you get a guy like a Kobe, you get Jordan and you get LeBron this average 27, 28, and you're like, man, look at they lock it down on both ends. More times than not, guys that could score a lot of points didn't play great defense. Right. It takes too much out of you to, okay, I'm going to go give you this work on one end. All of a sudden, I'm going to sit in the chair and try to do what I do for 36 to 40 minutes. But he wasn't known for being a defensive player coming up,

Luca coming into the league. Like, he never was known to be a stop. What European player is known for defense. There you go. They might block some shots, AK-A-K-47, Andre Coralenko, would block some shots. But he wasn't sitting in that on that chair. I mean, to sit in that chair, you take it for granted.

But look, I'm not saying Cooper Flagg, Like I said, I saw Cooper flag and I saw him coming out of Maine. But what I was impressed was when I saw them Joker scrimmage against the men's national team that was taking their ass to Paris and try to get that gold medal

and what he was doing to those guys? I said, oh, yeah, he doesn't have no problem in the year. Yeah. That's 12 or 50, how many players we sent over there? That's what we, that's our best we got in. Yeah, he's a just. That's bam.

That's bam. That's AD. And he gives him the work. Yeah, he's a. Oh, yeah. Yeah, he adjusted well. He probably got off to a rocket start to start his rookie year. But you're talking about the second half of this season?

Yeah, he's picked it up tremendously. He's been balling. Yeah, he's been everything they're imagining. Yeah. And more. But he had to grow up fast. Because like you said, he's tired of losing. Man, I ain't losing.

No, I ain't losing in high school. I ain't losing but a handful of games in college and here we're else. I don't lost more games than a damn week than I lost my whole college career. Man, losing suck, man. The NBA different, bro. It's a reality. And think about it. Even you can win, think about this.

I mean, going 62 and 20. 20. Damn. 20 damn games? These guys, some of these guys lose more games in NBA season than they lost all the high school and all in college. Yeah. And you don't know how a guy going to be able to deal with that. Okay, Ocho.

You know what I mean? That losing can break you, bro. It'll make you lose sight of where you're at, how you got to where you at. You know what I mean? Like, imagine, imagine being on a team, bro, and y'all only win eight, nine games out of 82. Man, you might lose a little bit of your swag.

You know what I mean? I'm going to tell you. I know I always bring this up talking about when I first came here to Atlanta won 29 games. Man, it's hard to enjoy. outside of basketball you can't, you don't want to go nowhere, you don't want to see nobody,

you don't want to hang out, you know what I mean? That's, hey, that's tough. Yeah, I actually, because guess what happens when they see you? Hell, if you're home, that's where y'all win more games, your ass wasn't out in the club. That's what you get. I mean, I didn't go out that much.

I mean, we were losing like, mm-hmm, that's why y'all lose it. Hell, all y'all is here. I'm like, what damn, man? Hey. We ain't supposed to have no life. I said, you know what? I said, you know what?

You're right. Let me stay by, let me stay by black assholes. Let me take my head home. We're losing, Joe. Right, right. I swear, boy. Hey. Go ahead, don't you?

What do you want to say? No, shoot. Hey, I only had one winning season in 11 years. Damn. Shit, I ain't had no guy. Hey, I ain't had no choice, Joe. So you're going out regardless of them? Hey, I get, no, I didn't really go to.

I'm just saying, you know, I show my face, but I didn't allow it to affect me and what I had. I'm saying, was it something to do in something. Cincinnati, Ocho, is something to do in? Yeah, but Cincinnati, one of the greatest cities of all time in comparison to Atlanta and in Houston. Yeah? You're saying it can compete with Atlanta and Houston? Yes.

No, that's not what he's saying, Joe. He's lying in it. He sure is. Telling a story. My grandma, she don't like me. Yeah, you can't say lie, boy. Telling the story. Fear of it.

Hey, Joe, listen to him. They, it's like that, Joe. No, it's not. Hey, Joe, it's a hidden gym that most people don't know about unless you, unless you're from there or you play there. You wouldn't understand. I saw Speed say he from Cincinnati

and you say the women terrible. Now, that's what he's saying. He's from there. Y'all, excuse me for a minute. You go against you and that's got to get you. Hey, you see. Looney, I know what he got that. My glass.

You see my glass. I know y'all probably. got nothing in front of y'all. Uncle looked like he on the road somewhere. I'm on the road. I'm on the road. But I'll be back. I'll be back soon.

I'll be, hey, I'll be in the air. Hey, your girl, you girl, she's seen my lady at the gym. And, uh, yeah, yeah, yeah, She, uh. Yeah, yeah, she said, make sure Joe get these glasses. And I said, it's what, what better time for me to put on a toast of you? I know y'all, I know y'all ain't got nothing going on. But what you, what you, would you drink it, Joe? Hey, Joe, Joe, let me tell you how you need to take it.

Hey, get you some, I put some ginger ale in there. I don't know if you've ever had it with ginger ale. Yeah. That's just real nice, Joe. Hey, you know we only to use ginger ale when we're sick. That's my grandma say, get some ginger ale. Ready, you do know, I'm like running a hundredfold freebo, you know. Yeah, she got everything going on.

Hey. But you know, the more people, when you get sick, you just need to go boo-boo. What boo-boo got to do with me sick? My stomach ain't hurt. Go. What is that? Great? Yeah.

Okay. The fight between Janice and Milwaukee over playing time just got a little bit more complicated. As it turns out, the real money on the line is that nobody's talking about publicly until now. Multiple sources said the buck's decision to sit Janice Antecunpo cost them significant bonuses in his Nike endorsement contract that would have been triggered if he played at least 41 games. That adds a lot of context behind Greek, preeks insistence on playing despite the team wanting to shut him down for the remainder of the season. The truth comes out.

It just isn't about competitive pride. It's because he literally, a financially incentive in a shoe contract, Milwaukee decision is costing him. I think it's too bold. I believe, obviously, man, bro, they might add some extra years at $10, $15, $20 million. Second, who's on his, who's on his team? Yes, so. Now, what of the likelihood, Pat Rod, let's just say for the sake of argument to appease Ocho, a joke, the heat trade for it. What do you think the likelihood of Pat Ryder and say, you know what, I want the two brothers, too?

What do you think of likelihood is that, Ocho? And knowing Pat Riley, they ain't good. Okay. I'm just being honest with you, unless Pat decides, all of a sudden out of the blue, change his way. No, sir. What you know he's not going to do because he's stuck to his guns since hell for how long now? Since he was the head coach of the Lakers? Hey, listen, if he didn't buzz for the king, he's not budded to the Greek.

He's going to have to get his ass in line like everybody else. Hey, look, we trade for Yonah, your damn brother's name. They're going to have to figure it out. But they can't be, yeah, they ain't doing that. Yeah. Get you leave here, they come. Hey, you know what's funny? When I think about the NBA and I think about the power that the players have,

One of the few organizations where the players have the power, not the, you know, the owners of the gym, owners of the gym to the head coaches is if y'all say, if I say I'm healthy and I'm going to play, hell, he should be able to, you would think the way they operate, hell, I'm going to put my uniform on and I'm going on in the start line up no matter what you all say, no matter what you want. No, they didn't, now you get, now you get, now you're insubordinate.

Now I'm going to take your money from you. Is that what you want? Conduct detrimental to the team. Yeah. That what you want? Nah, at least Joe right now, you know this, he gets it bread. You do something like that. Now I got to take contract.

Take it from you. Yeah, yeah. And them checks, old you know, them checks probably like three, four hundred thousand a game. You got really what you want? I know, I know what they're looking like, man. Well, you ain't got to tell me twice. But yeah, I'm going to go. Man, I show y'all doing me wrong, but I'm going to sit on over here.

Yeah, but listen, huh? Listen, you're sitting over there. You're obliged and what they want. But now you're messing up my shoe money. my shoe money add up too you messed up my season by talking about you wanting to be traded right

you messing up my money you're messing up my leverage my ability to trade you right you see you see what you did okay even swap ain't no sense wonder you mess up your trade value I mess up your money

we both got something messed up yeah and it's funny you know what now that you said it like that that's probably exactly how they think well yeah of course It's exactly how to hell. Well, the bank is

it's protocol, fellas. They just, just because you say you healthy, man, like I said before, you got to show us something in practice before we just throw you out there on the floor. You know what I mean? And I think Janice has,

he hasn't been one to, you know, cooperate when it comes to like playing two on two, three on three to prepare to gauge and lead up to him getting out there playing five on five. He just feels like, shit, I'm healthy. So just put me out there. I'm going to put up numbers and they ain't willing to do it for a number of reasons because look, you put him out there and he get hurt, then what?

Okay, Ocho. Oh, yeah. Yeah. Right. Like, they ain't the man. They ain't trying to deal with that. And you've had, and what have we had over the last couple of years? Yeah. Caves. Calfs lead to what? Yep. Achilles. Nah, you're not going to do that. You're not really going to suppress the market. But here's the thing. What we're talking about, Ocho. He says he wants to play. We took your worry when you say you was hurt. you couldn't play. We took your word for it. Now you wanted to take your word for it and say that you can play. Right. We didn't question you. Right. Now, now all of a sudden, you see, and I'm,

everybody knows I'm pro players. But sometimes when you start to own a business, you have to look at things from a business standpoint. Right. And so that's what I'm like, okay, okay, I can see. I can see what you're talking about. So all these concessions that they've made, I'm a firm belief, is that nobody is going to love you like your original team that drafted you. I had a conversation with a great ride receiver once, and he's like, man, he's like, oh, man, I need to just leave. And I say, I'm going to tell you this. And it's going to be your decision, and I'm never going to steal your own.

I say, yeah, you can probably go and you might win. I say, but they're not going to love you like they do where you are. Yeah. Because you're their own. They watched you come in and they watch you grow in the community. and they watch you as a young man coming to a full grown adult man. They watch that.

This other team, they're just going to be happy to have you. You're just going to be one of the other higher guns that they've had along the way. Nothing's going to be special about you, bro. No. He thought about it for a couple days like, man, you're right. So Yonis go and think so he's going to be sweet. You think the Lakers, you think the Lakers love

LeBron like they did in Cleveland? You think Miami love LeBron like they did in Cleveland? Or did they love Duane Wade? or do they love Kobe? Do they love Shaq? Huh? Or do they love Bam? Or do they love Alonzo Morning?

Oh, no. See, that's what, and I think, I don't think of enough players think about it like that. It's like, man, I just need to go, go, go, go. Okay, fine. I'm never going to stand in the way of a person wanting to get his money, but just understands. And when they don't gravitate towards you,

like they did in your original destination, you can't be mad. You just can't. you can't even though and think about it even though lonso uh lonso was at the hornets first yeah he was at the harness first people and people and for whatever reason he was they're like nah no no zoh howells he was not de wade he not bam that are oh geez yeah that's how it goes man so yonis wherever you go and you might win a championship i hope you do they're not going to love you did it.

No, they're not. But I bet you, Yonis is thinking like this. Okay, Ocho, he's thinking, okay, I got two years left on my deal. But if they trade me this summer,

then wherever I met, I can play. And then the next summer, I can get that five years versus... You're going to get four because you got traded. But I'm saying he'll get to play, he'll get to play a full year wherever he got traded.

Yes. So at the end of that season, they'll be able to offer him that big deal. I think once you get to, traded, Joe, I think that is out. Look that up, Ash. Look that up. I think that's the thing.

That's what they try to do because they want to keep you at the So you say he can't get. So that's why they can offer you that extra year, which is that fifth year at that back's number. Right. Okay. Look that up, Ash. I think, I think now, maybe if you stay for it.

Because a lot of times you have to, I think Luca could only sign a four year deal. Now if he wants he plays, he can come back and get. Because this is, uh, Luca got traded. in his contract year. Right? No, I think he had a little... Oh, did he? So it'd be the same as Yonis.

Yonnis guy? Yeah, okay. Okay. Oh, they would have never let him get that. Oh, no. Because remember, that's what, see, that's what Milwaukee is saying. Milwaukee says, sign the deal,

or we train you. We're not going to let you walk out of the door like K. Nah. That'd be foolish business. You can never let a guy. You can never let a guy of that caliber get to the last year of his deal. because if you do, he's done, it's done.

That's why I think they got to, that's why I think they got to trade him this summer, fellas. They can't bring him back, you know, considering everything that they're going through right now. I think, I think Janus is a little disgruntle. He probably will never come out and actually say it or demand a trade. But I can bet you behind the scenes they're probably going to be working when this season is over with to get him traded this summer for sure. Oh, he's going. according to ESPN Janice is eligible for a four-year, $275 million extension in October,

if he stays in Milwaukee. If he's traded during the off-season, he would need to wait six months from the trade date to sign the extension, which would be four years. Correct, Ash? Yes. So he's going to get it no matter where you go then, huh?

I don't think you can, I don't know if he can get that. So if he signed, if he waits six months after the, uh, the trade and signed the extension, how much, how much is the four-year extension then? Because it's kind of, what they try to do is kind of like what the NFL did, Ocho, because they didn't want the quarterbacks to leave. That's what the franchise tag was really, really, really envisioned. The key guys, the quarterbacks, your Bruce Smith, your jerrys, your Emmys,

we want to keep those guys. so we'll pay you the average of the top five. So what this is, the max, the super max is basically to keep because we can give you something nor other team can. We can offer that fifth year. The other team, they get you four. Now, if you want four, look, four years at $2.25, oh, that's good money. We can get you five years.

But, hey, hey, depending on where he go, though, he can make it up and off the court. endorsements depending on where he go because this markets because Milwaukee ain't no huge market so if he was the so if he was a ghost where he needed to get a Harley deal

he should have got a Harley deal hey I know I know one market he can go to he'd make it up no matter what the damn tax is going to kick his ass though who oh low California even worth

13.3% that's the only state and when you kick it and when you kick in that that 36% at the fair level so they're taking 49% of your money

you got to kick in Medicaid your agent's fees your attorneys so when it's all saying done that let's just say somebody getting

a hundred million you down to probably like 407 46 out of the taxes and you pay because they take it three and a half percent

your agent take three and a half percent your financial guy got to get his cut come on now What y'all have, whoa, you think I'm working for free? You ain't working for free. Yeah.

Hey, you and I both know, we got managers. We got, we got attorneys. I've been paying money since 90. Well, my first couple contract, I ain't played nothing because I had my brother's agent. He's like, no, he ain't making no money. You can't charge him. What's you talking about? When you see all that money, you're having to spend out like that?

Ooh. Because I knew exactly what you're talking about, attorneys and the shit. Hey, but look. That's why, boy, that Florida, that Miami don't sound bad. Yes. You don't sound bad, fellas. Hey, they got a team. Where else?

They ain't got no tag on that. They ain't got no team in Vegas yet. Does Tennessee have a team Memphis? Yeah, I don't know. What about Dallas? Dallas, Houston. Dallas, no. I just try to say what you have to.

Look, I don't know if y'all notice, but 13% when you're making that kind of money, you do realize 13% if you make it $50 million a year. Hey, hold up, though. Hold up, hold up, hold up. Houston got some pieces over there, though. Okay, oh, show, yeah. Oh, I thought you, they got some, I'm saying, I'm saying, they got some, I'm saying, they got some two-legged pieces. I mean, you're talking about the quarter pieces, the, the, die pieces. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. But they got some pieces, they get, they, you know, if they underachieve this year, they could possibly get up out of and bring Janus over there with Katie.

I still think they need a point guard. I think Van Fleet, I think they need Van Fleet. I think he's the missing ingredient. They need a point guard. They need a point guard. They do. But it's going to be some furniture moving this summer, fellas.

I'm talking about, I think, oh, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. I know Brun just built that. I know he built a net old half of minutes. 100 million in Brentwood. Yeah. I can see Brun teaming up with some guys, bro. where at Joe what you think about hey look I can see Janice and brawn teaming up together

where at though I'm going to be in LA but you know what if I'm LeBron man I'm done chasing the ring let me go to a bad team because we've seen on a bad team what he can do yeah at the number one or number two option LeBron can still give you 25 26 a night did you just not did you not see him on a bad team when you just play Sunday against the Mavericks he gave you 30 he gave you what 30 15 and nine. It's just, he needs some more ball handling duties. And but he understands the role he's in right now.

Yeah. With AR and Luca playing the way they've been playing. Like I said, because he started off the season slow, meaning he missed the first, what, 15 games or so, and they were playing great. He just, you know, put himself in to where he wasn't going to be disruptive. You know what I mean? He was going to be a complimentary piece to those guys. And I think he's done a great job at that.

But, yeah, Uncle, I agree with you. you put him on a team I ain't saying necessarily to where he is the guy but where he can handle the rock make decisions you know make plays yeah he still got some ball left in him

oh no worse than two yeah no worse than yeah he'll get yeah he'll give you the numbers that he gave you last year because if you go back and look like when games were okay Luca's out or game with AR is out

and now he has more responsibilities he gonna do his thing Yes. But I'm not surprised by this. The only thing is that Yonis kept trying to be sneaky about it. Oh, you know, whatever my agent decides, you know, I don't, bro, your agent works at the behest of you. And he doesn't want the criticism with coming because he saw the criticism that LeBron got. He saw the criticism that KD got. He saw the criticism that some of these other guys got him.

He doesn't want that. So he wants to pretend, he wants to throw the rock. We know you broke the window. He got, I ain't, I ain't doing nothing. That's my agent. No, bro. Agents don't. Just like the same thing, Ocho, we talked about with Nico.

Yeah. Okay, Nico, that fell on Nico. But the honor, Josh Dumont, throw the, through the table on him. Yeah. Mm-hmm. So, Yon is leaving Milwaukee. I got no problem with it.

So I don't want you all saying, but just, oh, so you got a problem? No, I don't. The only problem I got is that he won't stand up and face the, he won't stay, face the music. Yeah. Yeah, I won't out. You know, I don't feel like I can win here anymore.

I don't, I don't, I don't think they can put the pieces around me. But everything that they've done over the last four to five years was at your be quit. They got rid of the coach. You don't think, you think they did that without Yonis? That man was second in the east. Yeah. Yeah. They went goddamn.

You don't think, you think Yonan, you didn't sign up on that? They got rid of Holiday. They got rid of all those people. That was because of Yannis. That was Yonis' blessing. Yeah. You got to own it, though, bro. It's okay.

You're not the first to request to trade. You're not the first to move pieces. That comes along with the territory. You're a superstar. Superstars get certain privileges, and that's okay. But don't hide behind it, bro. Don't make it seem like they want to get rid of you. You know you've been asking for this for a minute.

And they should have moved your last year. Yeah. I don't want that. They should have moved your last. He don't want that backlash, man. No, he does. But even with that, even with that, I still think, you know, he'll be all right. I mean, it's just part of it.

It's part of being a megastar. Obviously, things ain't going right in Milwaukee. Man, you got to at least get you some pieces, get you some good pieces. And I think Milwaukee kind of trying to wait to this draft to kind of see who get what picks and who can really help him. You know what I mean? Because, okay, we can trade Yonis, we're going to package you with these picks

because maybe we can get a top three pick or a top five pick out of this draft to send Yonis off. Okay, that's a different story. You know what I mean? Now we bring in one of these young phenoms who can carry us for the next 10, 12, 15 years. So I think that's why they're waiting.

Joe, Ocho. Yeah. I bring Ocho in. I do everything Ocho asks. I hire Chauncy. I hire his best, I hire Ryan, I give Doug a job. Things don't go right. Man, I've done everything Ocho asked me to do.

Then when things don't go right, man, I can't make, bro, I hire Charlie, I hired, I hired Ryan, I hired Doug, and now things ain't going right. You want to deal. I don't broke, broke for your damn robocene. I've got you a new coach. I got up on holiday. I got up off of me. But damn.

I mean, does Yonis think that we're that naive to not to think that he has that kind of leverage in Milwaukee? They held on to him because they don't want to trade him. They don't want to trade him. But they just know he's not going to sign. And I'm not going to let you walk out the door. And I don't mean to keep bringing KD up, but KD contract was up. And it was well within his right to leave. but KD walked out the door and O KC ain't get a damn thing.

Let that sink in it. They didn't. Some people say KD is a top 10. He's probably a top 15 player in NBA history. History, yeah. He walked out the door and they didn't get a thing for him. They didn't get Gatorade. They didn't get socks.

They didn't get tape. They got nothing, Joe. They didn't get no iPad. They didn't get a projector. They didn't get jack. You cannot let Yonis walk out the door. Like that. Because if you do, you're ruined. And Milwaukee knows that.

They know that they refuse. I know they refuse to let that happen to their franchise because they won't be able to recruit from that. It'll set them back, hell, five, seven, even probably longer than that. What got OKC was what happened? Actually, Kauai. Because Kauai going to the Clippers, wanting a veteran, someone that he,

knew Paul George. PG. Oh, you want PG? What you got? Let me see what you got. I'm going to need Shea, and I'm going to need probably like four unprotected first round picks. And Sam Presti, we know

one thing. He can pick a player. He picked KD. He picked Russ. He picked Hardin. He picked the Baca. He picked Reggie Jackson. And look at what he's done. He's picked Chet. He's picked Jalen Williams. He picked Jalen Williams.

look at what he's done. He's got Lou Dort. Yeah. So now what probably would have been purgatory for OKC, even though they're a small market, they write it,

and they write back here. Yeah. And they're going to be there for the foreseeable future. They are, man. Sometimes it's one move. Change everything. It changed everything.

And Presti's done a great job. But the linchpin, was getting shade. Once he got Shay, your foundation is strong. It's hard to build him to be strong. And you got to hope,

you know, when you make these type of changes and you bring in a guy who you think has a great upside, you got to hope he takes the game serious and he meets your standards or over delivers like Shay. I mean, hell, this man will probably be a two-tube.

MVP. They won you a title. He won you a title, man. You had Westbrook and KD. Y'all made it to the finals, but y'all ain't win one. You get this kid. Yeah. And Harder.

Yeah, and Hardin. And you get Baca. And Abaka. You get this kid. And within what, three, four years, man, he didn't want you a title. And you're on the brink to win another one. So if you go back to back, oh my God. Yeah.

So basically, you got, you got, you got Shea in 2019. Because was it 2019? Yeah, I think 2019. Summer 2019. Yeah. Got it. Because Kauai came from Toronto. And that was the domino that started this.

We didn't know that a move over here would trigger something over there. You know, sometimes you have a tsunami because there's an earthquake that happened in the middle of the ocean. Man, look what this thing triggered? The clippers. wanting, getting Kauai, triggered a series of unfortunate events. And I'm not talking about limiting snickets. You all catch other than a minute.

But anyway, but that's what happened, Joe. So I don't, I don't thought Milwaukee. I'm going to try to get as much as I possibly can because the likelihood, think about it, you had Kareem, it took you 30 plus years before you got something comparable to Kareem. You had some really good teams, now. I remember the Bucks was really,

really good team. When they had Nelly, Don Nelson was their coach. They had a, who do you have? Lanier. They had Sidney Moncrief. They had O'Tare Cummings.

I don't remember Terry Cummings. Terry Cummings. I do Power 4, Big Body. Yeah. Yeah, from DePaul. They had Brian Winters. They had some really good players. They did.

They did. Corrine and Yadis. And so normally when you lose, a player like that, it's hard to ever, ever get another. It's hard. And you're not like the Lakers where people want to come. We'll retire, they get Karene. And then you get Magic.

And then imagine retired. You get Shaq and Kobe. And then get down. And here come LeBron. And now you got Luca. You see, everybody don't get it like that. Because that, you know, not only is it a big market, it's a great market in L.A. And everybody want to play in L.A., bro.

I mean, let's keep it warm. You know, playing for the Lakers, I don't know about y'all, but growing up watching the Lakers play, you know, the Lakers show, the Laker girls, things of that sort. Milwaukee don't have an attraction. They don't. So, yeah, they're not going to get no big time for agent. You know what I mean?

So you do have to go through the draft, and hopefully you hit big. And OKC. Yeah, OKC, develop well, develop your players. But when it gets to this point to where I know, Yonis is going to move on. They know they're going to move on from Yonis. You have to try to get great value from him. I don't know if you can get the same value, but you have to get a guy who you feel like, okay, in two years, he's going to be a superstar.

You know what I mean? Yeah, well, you don't know. I'm saying, Janus, but Janus is a different animal. But, I mean, when they traded PG at all those picks, they're like, man, OKC got took. They gave a PG who was, what, second of the MVP, third to MVP voting one year. And now they're like, boy, boy, a, OKC really suckered all the Clippers. That's what people are saying now. It went from the Clippers suck at OKC to OKC, man,

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