Nightcap - Best of NFL News Part 1: Russell Wilson CALLS OUT Sean Payton + Rams LB Byron Young Joins the show!

Episode Date: October 25, 2025

Shannon Sharpe and Chad “Ochocinco” Johnson break down the biggest NFL storylines of the week! Unc and Ocho react to: Russell Wilson fires back at Sean Payton, Rams LB, Byron Young, joins the show and more! 0:00 - Russell Wilson fires back at Sean Payton18:21 - Byron Young joins the show33:40 - Isaiah Rodgers calls out Vikings fans (Timestamps may vary based on advertisements.) #ClubSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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So please subscribe or you're going to make Ocho crack. all right guys we're going to get into it russell wilson he clapped back at his former coach john peyton after post game comments praising jackson dart yes let's take a listen to what patin had to say you know they found a little spark with that quarterback um i was talking to john mary not too long ago and i said we were hoping that that change would have happened long long after our game. Russ tweeted back, classless, but not surprised. Didn't realize you're still bounty hunting 15 plus years through the media.

Let's ride. Now, Sean Payton later responded today that he was just talking about, you know, he was praising Jackson Dart. Now, he mentioned that he had talked to John Mara several weeks earlier. before they even played, before they had even made this switch. Guy, y'all know I'm Bronco through and through, like Sean Payton. I know Sean Payton. We had a very, very close mutual friend, Mike Ornstein, Mike Ornstein passed away.

Rest and peace. Yes. I know Sean very well. No, you didn't have to, everybody knows how you feel about Russ. Yeah. Russ probably feel the same way, but would never see. anything. I'm a little surprised Russ even responded to this. I like it. But Ocho, but here's the thing. You're only

be able to take so much. Absolutely. Because what you see is just like they keep going and keep going and keep going. And then they'll be, oh, you weak. You weak. So Russ responded, I don't have a problem with Russ saying. But Sean, come on now. Ocho, are you surprised Russ responded and are you surprised this thing is really taking a got legs and kind of like started running on its own. I like the fact that it has legs. I like the fact that it has legs. Sean Payton, he already tried Russ on the sideline. He tried Russ on the sideline, berating him and talking trash to him, actually provoking Russ hoping he would break character,

hoping he would show a different side than who he actually is. He kept calm. Mile Manor. Now he takes shots at him again. Yeah. For no reason at all. And I love Russell, choir boy Wilson. But I love the fact that he stood, he stood up for himself. Russell Wilson, Matthew 539, in the Bible. It says, turn the other cheek. Well, this time, Russ say, you know, I didn't ran out of cheeks. I'm going to clap back. I'm going to fire back at you. I'm going to stand up for myself. And I like him showing some enthusiasm and getting in the fire for a change instead of just letting, you know, let it be water off of Ducks back.

Man, talk your shit, Russ. It's okay. It's okay. And guess what? What? Ain't no person named Shannon in the Bible. I ain't in there. You keep talking back, taking your chief shots at me.

I'm going to put something on you. Come on now. Talk to talk to me. Remember, Ocho. Come on, Russ. At some point in time, enough has to be. enough you made your point right you didn't want me you moved on right you have a quarterback and bo necks that seems to be that he's the guy for the broncos future i've gone to this is my second

team since i've left the bronco yeah i ain't bother nobody russ you you can like or dislike russ but the one thing that you can't say that he's not bothering anybody never he's not talking down he's not saying anything negative about anybody never so my thing is why um hey um let me say Uncle Joe, Russell Wilson, if you want to talk about quarterbacks and the way to conduct yourself as a professional athlete on and off the field, he's a consummate pro. He is the ultimate pro when it comes to doing your job, going to work, being a family man, being a husband, doing everything the right way.

The fact that he finally got outside of his character for a change is exciting for me. I like it. I enjoy it because now, listen, at some point you got to put a nail in the coffin Because if you don't put an nail in the coffin, they're going to keep digging your grave. I agree. They're going to keep on digging your grave and keep digging at you for no reason. There's no reason for, and I know Sean Payton as well. There's no reason for you to, you know, do that.

But you understand. Listen, I got to send duck. I got an easy duck. He ain't going to say nothing. He ain't going to fire back. But finally, we get a new Russell Wilson. I love this. I love this Russ Wilson.

And Russell, I know you're going to see this. Anybody else say something, you better fire off of their ass too. Go ahead, Joe. Hey, I agree with both of y'all's. I think, you know, I think Russ is more so like, you know, enough is enough, man. He ain't said nothing. He's been going by his way, you know, tending to his business. And they still taking chief shots at him.

I'm with him, man. I'm glad he responded. I'm glad he said something. Be petty, betty, go back at him. Yeah. It doesn't matter how mild matter a person is. Eventually, eventually, you look at, I mean, you look at any animal. It might be even the dog, you know, you see it.

But after a while, he's going to lash out at you. It's going to a lash out because it's only going to take so much. So he, Russ felt that, okay, former teammates have been taking shots at him, you know, X, Y, and Z and saying all these things. And now he's like, bro, how much, how much more, how much more crap do y'all want to dump on me and say, man, y'all just pouring perfume on me? Listen, because at some point in time, Mocho, enough is enough. Yeah, yeah.

You've made your point. Okay, okay, I'm fine. I get it. I get it. I didn't live up to the expectations that I had the coaching staff, the organization, or the fan base of Denver. I didn't meet those expectations. I accept that.

But I'm gone. There's no need. There's no reason for you to mention you can praise Jackson Dart. Yeah. without taking a dump on me. Absolutely. Absolutely. Hey, look.

Praise your guy. But why would you have to take a shot at me? And you, like I said, he said that he was just phrased in Jackson Dart, but you said that you had talked to John Mara, who's one half of the owner of the Giants weeks ago. Even if he had done that, he could have kept that to himself. Yeah. He didn't have to share that, Ocho.

Joe, he could have just said what he said like, you know, and maybe with his coaching staff or with his close buddies when he's having a drink. Right. I told you, I told John, that's like, man, I hope y'all make that, make that change out for us because it's just a matter of time. Right. Cool.

And nobody, the way Jackson Dart is playing, I don't think anybody's upset that they made this move. I told Ocho, I said, oh, Ocho, I said, over, under, eight weeks. I said, I'm looking like, I'm taking the under. Ocho, you said, I'm taking the under. Yeah. Because I had seen enough in the preseason. I said, Ocho, they're going to make this change sooner than later.

Yeah, yeah. But I just don't, I don't, you know, the continuation of beating down Russ. It's unnecessary. And what is that? I know you're excited. Joe, you know, we win a game, Ocho, we win a game. We say, yeah, we beat them sorry. Yeah, we beat them sorry, Ralph.

Yeah. But what did you? I thought y'all had them didn't, 33 into four, 33. I get all that. But come on now. When is enough enough, Ocho? How much am I supposed to take? I like it.

As a matter of fact, he should have cursed in the tweet. He should have cursed. Go all the way there. It wasn't enough for you. Now, listen, I like it. He, listen, he fired back, but he fired back in a professional manner. Absolutely. Man, come on, man.

Hey, Russ, next time, man, man, man, what, I put, let me put the tweet together. I put the tweet together. Hell, dog. Hey, listen, but what was it about? Why was Sean Payton bring that up, honestly? Like, what did they have to do with anything? Listen.

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before Sean Payton got there. I said some things and everybody called me a lot. I was talking to me and Ocho and I was having a conversation and everybody wanted to tell me, Shannon, you don't know what's going on because you're not there. I say, you do realize I'm still held in very, very high regard in Denver. Right. You actually think I would say something like this

and it not be the gospel? I say, hey, I'm Matthew. Mark, Luke, and John. When I speak about something coming out of Denver or Baltimore, it's the gospel. I don't really talk too much about it because y'all, they know, but they try to undermine me and try to say you're not in the locker room or you don't know what I'm talking about, but y'all don't realize how often I call around the league and a lot of things that's going on that get reported, that ain't my job.

I ain't Adam Schuster. I don't try to be. I'm not Jake Glazer. I don't try to be. But I know a lot more than what I say. And when it comes out, like, they got mad. I said it. Sean got there.

When the organ, when they were explaining the privileges that Russ got, Sean's like, are you itting me? Are you kidding me? It's like, no, you're like, we thought that is like, no, that is not normal protocol. Nobody in the history had ever had a situation like that. And from that point on, once he heard that, it was over. He would have needed to throw for 50 touchdowns, $4,000 yards and get them to the AFC championship.

Other than that, it wasn't going to work. So instead of trying to listen to what I was trying to say, tried to explain what was transpiring and why so many people were out on Russ in Denver, they wanted to talk about, oh, you're talking bad about a black man. You wouldn't say that about a white guy. When I had called Tom, when I had called Tom Brady and Peyton Manning and Tony Romo and Aaron Rogers and all these other quarterbacks,

but see, long as I'm talking about them, it's fine. Right. All I was saying, I didn't say Russ was a bad person. I said he got privileges. And it made his teammates feel a certain type of way. Right. Because we, Ocho, we know who makes the money. Yeah.

But just because you make more money, we don't want you getting privileges. We don't want you having offices that none of us, like, hold on, really? Yeah. So from that point on, Sean felt some type of way. he felt some type of weight and I get it I get it but that man been gone for two years now it's time to let that go yeah yeah I joke uh uh you know what it is what's that it's the same thing with mellow and george carge george car keep on poking mellow mellow don't mention george car but every chance he gets he tries to poke mellow mellow's going to have to look

mellow's going to have to draw a line in the sand and say mofo if you step across this line again and I'm going to have to unleash. You know he ain't got no problem doing that. You know, Mello ain't got no problem drawing that line. He's going to have to because every time I, every time he's always speaking negative. Oh, they couldn't win no championship with that guy. He wouldn't play defense.

He wouldn't do this. I get it. You don't like Mello. Everybody is not going to like everybody. But, bro, you hadn't coach Mello in damn near two decades. Yeah. What is the issue now? can we just move on?

Obviously at that point, it'd be better if coaches come out, especially when they continue to do this and they have things to say years removed from dealing or coaching a certain individual. Why don't you just come out and say, you know what, I don't even like this individual. And it's personal. It had nothing to do with the sport.

They had nothing to do with basketball, had nothing to do with football, nothing to do with him playing quarterback or whatever it may be. I just don't like him. And that's okay. It would be better suited for us as a public and fans of these.

sports that come out and have Sean Pace, say, you know what, I just don't like Russell Wilson. I don't know, I don't know what it is about him. I just don't like him. Or George Carl, you know what? I don't like Carmelo. Whatever it may be. What's understood don't need to be spoken. Yeah.

You know. Yeah. Man, I don't, I don't, well, if, say, if, if somebody continuously cheating on the other party, yeah. What does he need to say? What does she need to say? None. you keep doing what you're doing

when you know it's wrong I don't need no no Harvard attorney to try to read between the lines you're telling me the mere fact that you keep taking shots at me publicly is one thing if it's getting back to me, Ocho,

but the mere fact that you're putting it in print the mere fact that you keep saying it publicly I can read it for myself, I can see it for myself tells me that how you feel about me But I didn't, I already knew that. I've been trying to take the high road, try to remain professional. I'm trying to build a brand.

I don't want to do anything to tarnish that. But hey, bro, I understand. That's not what you are. You don't try to build a brand. You're not really on television. People go to you when they want to get, they want to get cliques. They want to get a rage bait material.

They'll come to you and you'll say something. Mello is one of the 75 greatest players they ever play in the NBA. We understand what Mello is. Now he's a Hall of Famer. So automatically, if somebody says something negative, that's going to get picked up. That is mellow.

That's his former coach. I just don't get it. We don't have to like all of our teammates. We don't have to like all of our coaches. I had a great relationship with all the coaches. Maybe one or two I didn't really jive with. It's okay. But I would never say anything publicly.

Absolutely. No. Hey, look, you're a teammate. It's only so much, bro. It's only so much. Yeah, bro. I'm 507. I got grands now.

But I'm what I'm talking about what happened 25, 30 years ago for, Ocho. What purpose does that serve in a negative light? Yes. Yeah, none at all. None at all. I mean, listen, I get along with everybody. I'd assume.

I try to. I'd assume everybody loves me the same way I show love. There's only one person I don't get along with. And if I ever see him, it's on site and um y'all let huh would you say Joe who is that you don't want to say

oh oh James Harrison oh yeah yeah yeah like it's personal it's personal and I say I say it every day and I let him know I can't wait to see him obviously he doesn't live here in Miami but the only place I probably see among what maybe Super Bowl

yeah oh too I'm sure we're probably we're cross past maybe um you know radio row or some shit like that, and either he's going to have security or it's just going to be a thumping session. Oh, Joe, I don't know if you want to climb that tree, man. Hey, one thing about me. Hey, hey, let me tell you something.

Hey, Joe, in high school, they called me Paul Bunyan. You hear me? Hey, I'm chopping everything down. All the trees. Hey, hey, hey, hey, as you play a partner, man, I'll try, listen. You might want your pass on that one, bro. Hey, hey, Joe, brush up on your NFL knowledge.

What you want to know, huh? I seen, no, I'm just saying, because I might need a new partner. Okay, okay, say less, say less, say less, say less, I'm with you. Hey, the fact that y'all don't have no faith in me, man, that, that, y'all, y'all not, y'all not Christian. Hey, hey, hey, I'm basically saying you're going to be concussed. You're going to be out, you're going to be out for the rest of the time. No, we got to, look, we got other, we got other business ventures that we're trying to get to,

Ocho. Oh, we're going to get there no matter what. We're going to get there no matter what. I mean, if you can't. talk for like six months. Oh, oh, I'm gonna be, I'm gonna be okay. Hey, listen, if you see me in the fight with a bell, you might wanna help the bell.

Yeah. Hey, Joe, I don't need no partner when he move in the chair like this here. You hear me? Yeah, I can't use no partner like that. I need a real partner. Somebody to go laugh and joke and get up out of the chair. Hey, hey, Ocho, I got, I got a question.

What's your game playing though? Like, what y'all, y'all getting in the Oxigone? What y'all doing? Hey, listen, Octagon Street, boxing ring, it don't matter. On-site, it don't matter, Joe. Like, I'm at that point. Like, I'm kind of frustrated because I keep challenging him, and he really don't want no smoke.

He's not responding. That lets me know, I mean, all that size and muscle don't mean nothing, man. Hey, hey, from me to you, bro. Jay, keep your distance, stick and move. Hey, that's what I'm going to do, Joe. Don't, yeah, there you go. Hey, look at my rain, Joe, my brain, go, my brain, got there. Yeah.

You know, I'm going to keep him out of distance, Joe. Like, I might get me arranging that and get close up on him. No, no, no, you don't want to do that. Don't do that. No? No, don't get close. Keep that distance. Use that jab.

You got to use that jab, baby. Hey, Joe, me use that thing, Joe. I'm using it. I'm telling you, man, listen, hey, I'm, listen, hey, one thing about it, man. The first, God always got on my side. God always been on my side. You hit me? And all my back.

I'm on your side. I'm saying, I'm going to pull him off you. I mean, but y'all sound like y'all ain't on my side. Y'all telling me I'm going to be hurt and I ain't going to be able to talk. Yeah, it ain't going to be looking good. All right. But no, what we try to do, Ocho, we're trying to keep you safe. I'm safe.

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Be it on. You got a very special guest joining us tonight. Tide for the league, league in sacks with nine, a third round pick out of the University of Tennessee, a volunteer. He grew up the youngest of 13 siblings. Wow.

Byron Young, Rams, Los Angeles, Ram. Bro, how you doing? I'm doing great, man. I appreciate you having me. Nah, bro, appreciate you coming on. Seriously. You on one side, Jerry Burst on the other. You got the big guy pushing, collapse in the pocket.

How fun is it rushing the passer in that situation? Because it's first come, first serve. You know you got to get off because verse on the other side. Oh, yeah. Oh, yeah. It's always a, you know, race to the quarterback. You know, I seem like just, you know, say it, you know, meet me there, beat me there.

You know, having Braden fist and Kobe turned in the middle with Jared versus on the other end, And, you know, you have no choice but to get out. So, you know, they just motivate me and push me to go harder. I was reading the story. Back in 2018, you was working a ship at Burger King and Dollar General. You saw a fly on a store bulletin board that's like Georgia Military College holding open trials for football. Hold on.

You're like, hold on. Man, let me take this apron, this fry cap off and get back. So did you play football in high school? Yes, sir, I played in high school. I just really went and recruited for real. Really? Nice, yeah. So you go, so you go, you go trial.

So, so what did they have you do? You had to run drill, you had to run a 40. So what did you want, what did you, what did this trial encompass? Basically it was the 40, kind of like what you said. You had to do the bench press at 225. You had to do like change directions and like they basically were doing like measurements. Yeah. on to see where you were at.

And I was kind of like it for the most part. It was like 100, 100 guys there. Were you the only one that made it? I was the only one that made it off the spot. So, like, it was other guys that got called back because you kind of, it's like two trials. You kind of like have the second trial in the spring when you kind of have spring ball.

But I was like the only one to make the team from that, though. Wow. Hey, most of the time when you're growing up, too, obviously in the NFL, you play defensive end. when you were younger, what position did you play? I know you want to playing D.N. back then. No, I played running back. What?

You were toting that ball? You were tooting the P of what? Oh, yeah. Oh, yeah. I played a runner back all through high school. That's why I'm, like, always been fans. Right. So at what point did your body, did your body, you know, grow into, actually, now I can

be on the defensive side of the ball, and you got a little bigger? Well, actually, my senior year, like, I always, like, big in high school, but my senior year, I played both sides. And I play stand-up linebacker my senior high school So it's kind of like transition after that Are you from Georgia? No, I'm from Georgetown

But I moved to Georgia after I graduated high school in 2017 Georgetown, South Carolina? Georgetown, South Carolina, yes sir Hey, matter of fact, you know what? I got a little, I got a small look You ain't know this, right? See?

A, B.Y, you ain't know I know this. You and Melissa Jefferson come from the same small town too. Yeah, yeah, we went to the same high school who was on the same track team. Ah, but you ran track too? Yeah, I ran track my senior year. Wait, what, what, what race?

Oh, the 4 by 1. Okay, okay, okay. So you, you get called. So how did you, how did you end up in Tennessee? Honestly, that was the first PowerPoint school to offer me. So, really? Yes, sir, yes, sir, it was, I felt like it was a sign from God. So, you know, I just went with them.

Man, and you, hey, you got a, hey, playing the SEC. So was that always your dream to plan? the NFL, you just had, hey, took a little detour, took you a little while, but, hey, you ended up where you ended up, and you got to ultimately your ultimate destination. Was that always your goal? So what, what did Byron wanted to be when he was growing up? When he was a kid, he was eight, nine, ten years of age, what did you want to be? I always wanted to be in NFL. I always wanted to go in the NFL. I'll be lying to you if I told you that I just knew this would have happened, like, based off my journey, but like, my mindset was I just never wanted to quit, you know? I always

like wanting to somehow get back into playing football, but I really just didn't know how that would look like, you know, growing up, like, just being around a lot of people that really didn't really make it to the NFL. So it's kind of hard to kind of navigate and find your ways through there. So, like, you know, it was just unpredictable, but I always can't fade.

Wow, that man, that's an unbelievable story. So you go to University of Tennessee, you have an outstanding collegiate career, and now it's draft. So what were the scouts telling you? Did you know you go, did they tell you, okay, you might be a first round pick. You could be a late first round pick, early second. Did they tell you day one, day two?

What were you hearing when you were coming out? I was really hearing day two. Some said possibly day three, but mostly it was day two. My biggest knock was my age, so I was like an older guy. Right. They liked how mature I was with my age. So it really was always day two, but possibly day three because of that. You found the home now rushing the passer.

This is your third year, right? Yes, sir. So you got one year with AD? Got one year with AD. Oh, yeah. Man, can you, do you sit back and think, and say, man, can I imagine me versus AD? Right now, knowing what I know now,

versus knowing what he knows now, and you're talking about arguably the greatest defensive tackle to ever play one of the five greatest defensive players. And the way our offense can score and be, and we're ahead, and now I just get to hunt the quarterback, They got the double 99. They got you.

I think about that. Every day, I just feel like I took some, you know, I feel like I took it for granted a little bit more rookie year. But I just said I was learning, you know, I was growing. But like, now I just look back in my 30, I was like, man, if we could have him too, you know what I was saying? But, you know, I'm just thankful that I had one year, you know, with him, you know, teaching me things and, you know,

just being my mentor and stuff. What was some of the things that he taught you? So to watch him, obviously he plays the, three to five. It's a different. You're mainly an edge. You're on the edge. Normally, occasionally you put your hand in dirt, but you like to rush to pass her from a standup position. Oh, yeah. Oh, yeah. Standup. I kind of was doing that at Tennessee for the most part. That's when I kind of started dropping, though. So, yeah, stand, I'm outside linebacker. But, you know, being with AD and some of the things, he kind of taught me, just be patient. You know,

I feel like as a rookie, you're always trying to be perfect. You're always not trying to make mistake. So I feel like coming in, a script so much about, like, I'm trying to be perfect. I'm not trying to do this wrong. And, you know, he always said, you know, just be patient and just let it come to you. You know, like, you're going to make mistakes and just learn from them. But, you know, that was something that always stuck with me. And so, hey, coming into the season, obviously would it be your third year? Obviously, you have team goals, but have your personal goals.

Obviously, I'm sure the sacks and the trajectory you are on right now so far this season, are there any other goals you had set in mind from an individual's perspective going into this season? Oh, definitely. Making my first pro bowl, you know, being all a pro. You know, that's always a dream come true for me. You know, that's something I always wanted, you know, just, you know, just watching the guys that I looked at

to like Bonn Miller and those guys like that, like one of my favorite players ever and just watch how they just go about business and, you know, every year making a pro bowl. And it's just like, that's something I always wanted to do. So coming into, you know, my third year, my goal is, you know, Offerable, of course, as a team, make it to the Super Bowl. But for myself, all pro, you know, pro bowl, you know, and defense player of the year,

that's what I'm looking, that's what I'm reaching. You know, every day I work, that's why I'm trying to accomplish. You know, B, Y, the easiest thing you'll do is make it to the Pro Bowl once. Now, what happens when they get that, you know what, we're going to sit our game playing to B Y. Now we slide the protection. Now we have the back chip on his way out. Now we have the tight end that chip on his way out.

Now, the second Pro Bowl, the third Pro Bowl, those are. are the ones that get hard because now they know what you can do. And now you have expectations for yourself. The fans, management, they have greater expectations because they saw what you've done. You've gone to the Pro Bowl. You're like, hey, I got nine sacks.

Hold on. I think we got one, two, three, four, five, six, seven, eight, nine. We got nine more. We got nine, ten game. Hold on. I can get a sack of game. Get a couple, two sack game. But I can get 20 sacks. Oh, yeah.

And now you're like, hold on. 20 sacks. Hey, they don't have to come see you. They pay big bucks for 20 sacks. They don't have to come see you. Hey, hey, I can go back and buy all of Georgetown. Yeah. Hey, you tell them,

hey, what's the name, Stan? Stan, what, Unk? Stan Cronky? Yeah, tell Stan, we want 49 a year. Ooh. Yeah. Yeah, hey, uh, 50. 50.

No, very, fake. Hey, so coming into the C, obviously, you know, your third year, what are some of the, things you work on. Look, you got great get off. Obviously, you can convert speed to power. So, so what, what was you working on? And obviously, because each year you work on something to try to improve to get better, because sometimes the move that you worked on that worked this year, it might not work. I'm not getting rid of them, but I got to have another trick in my bag that I need to pull out, especially when I got to get off the field. We got to make sure we get

off the field. We got to make sure we keep them out of field goal range. We got to make sure we keep them out of the end zone. So what was some of the things that you were working on this, this, off-season, B-Y. You know, this off-season, going into my third year, just looking back at my first two years, I just feel like I wanted to take a different approach. So I took on, you know, Pilates. I started doing Pilates three days out of the week just to build

my body and, you know, just how- Strengthy at core, get flexible. Yeah, working them little muscles, you know what I'm saying, with longevity and stuff like that and to help prevent injury. So I felt like doing Pilates definitely helping my body type and help me being able to big thing, getting off the ball faster, you know, flexibility and everything. everything, been in the corner, you know how I do.

So it's like those are some of the things that I was doing. I was really consistent at it. I feel like I've seen the different things that helped and just putting into actual work, you know, getting more get-offs, working my technique more, getting more film studies, studying myself, you know, and studying where I lacked last, my last two years, and I was just trying to improve from that. So my goal every time I step on the field is improve, you know, something that I didn't do good yesterday, whether it's get-off, whether it's foster, whether it's used my hands, you know,

whether the hell of I always try and just like get better at something, you know, every practice. So that's kind of my approach that I was taking OTAs and count, being more attention. You guys still run the hoop, that circle that, you know, you try to ride it and stay as low as you possibly can. Y'all still do that? Well, we kind of do that. We kind of do something else with the medicine ball. We, like, have the medicine ball. We kind of fill up our hips, but we kind of like do it around the whole hoop.

But we don't, I know what you're talking about. We don't really do that too much. So when, at the end of this season, look, hey, your third round pick, oh, they got to come see you after this year. Yeah. They got to come see you, B. Y, why? Oh, so you're going crazy.

You're really trying to leave. Oh, shit, chish, chish, chish, chish. You got, oh. It just don't know me. Oh, Joe, he's going on the spot. Hey, he's going to. I'm going to get this 20 piece out here. Hey, I'm saying.

And that's always the goal is just that, you know, trying to get to that second deal. So I'm definitely working for that for sure. Yeah. Yes, sir. Yes, sir. Man, congratulations on all your success, man.

I mean, it wasn't, oh, let me ask you this. The youngest of 13. How many, how many brothers? How many, how many boys, how many girls? Nine boys and four girls. And you're the youngest? I'm the youngest, yeah. Man, mom, and pops wasn't playing.

That's dope. That's laugh. So I'm talking about, so when y'all get, oh, Georgetown, so y'all eat some of anything down there. I know about that low country. Yeah, yeah. Mm-hmm. All the hogs, y'all put everything in a pot.

They call it pot, luck, Coach, they put it all in a pot. You look, if it don't kill you, but they're going to eat good. No, not, thanks. You're going to eat good. When you go back home, so what was it like? So you go to the NFL. Is there anybody from Georgetown? How close is Georgetown?

the Monk's Corner, like Somerville and Charles, that. How close are you to that? Charles stands like an hour away for George's. Hour away? Yeah, it's not too crazy. Is there any for, hold on, I think, where in Joe? I think jump in, if Jumpi gather from down your way? Yeah, yeah, that's my family.

They're from Chumpy. They're from around and went, Georgetown, too. Yeah. I play with Jumpy. Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah. They're from Ryan. I play with your bad jumping. Who, Lord, Jumpi, the country is.

man hey I don't know what he had but he had some stuff in a green bottle he rub it on his knee rub it on his ankle and then drank it he's talking about

you want to try something I say no I'm good I don't know my knee don't hurt no more yeah don't bother for sure you got home remedies like that I mean not not like that

but we got some stuff that we do but that was yeah I ain't never heard that that's probably way back in the day yeah Thank you why. Thanks for joining us, man. Continue success. Stay healthy. And you lead the league in sacks. Come back and tell us how you did it.

Yes, sir. I appreciate y'all having me, man. Thank you. We appreciate you coming, man. Get some rest, stay healthy. Best of luck the rest of the year. Hey, this off season, Stan Crock could give you that five year, 175. 200. 200. We need two. Okay, I ain't said no both. I ain't going to say no both. I got you, bro. Good luck, all the best. All right.

Thank you. Bad. Hold on. Let me use the bathroom. Go here. Man, that's a, he's a, you can see he's a very, you can tell he's mature. And you know, and you see, now you see, you heard what they say because of his age. Now you see why them guys try to get out of school early because they hold that against you.

Because they look at it like, if you're that good, why are you still in school? They use the man age against him. it. Nah, he got a, hey, he'll hit that jackpot, though. He's going to get paid. And deservedly so. I love people that, you know, he's a fighter come from Georgetown. Not a whole lot, you know, going on down there.

But he's like, hey, same thing with Melissa. And to see where he's, where he came from, and to see where he's headed, man, he seems so mature. He seems like he got, you know, he's well grounded. and, man, I'm excited. I'm excited to see what this season and what it unfolds for, Mocho. Ocho, Isaiah Rogers had a bad deal on the football field.

He gave up a 79-yard touchdown to Devonte Smith. He gave up a touchdown to A.J. Brown. And his DMs was on swole, but nothing caused him deserved a bit. Look at what he said. We got it up on the spring. green go effing it face you effing suck effing third down you know it's the past you just gave the eagles to win good eff face you know with all else fell if they really want to get up on

your skin you know they go hey they got they got to put that in in there they got to put that they got to put that they got to put that with in there uh uh you're Worst than Hitler. He'll have never been picked up. Worthless piece of crap. Waste of air. Endward again. Oh, man.

Hey, that's funny, boy. That's funny. And listen, at this day and age, as grown... Yeah, he goes up. Oh, Joe, Denny's like, all right, bro, my bad. Just lock in.

Nah, nah, no, don't delete it now. No, keep that. No, but you be all right. No, no, no, no, no. You should have just, that's what you should have said at first. Yeah. Come on, bro. Hey, lock in.

Nah, what you want to get all that on? Listen, no. You understand the climate we in. You understand the climate we're in. They're fans when you're playing well. When you're not playing well, they'll tell you and talk, talk to you truly how they feel about you. Yes. That's all.

It's the world we live in. But once you realize, once you realize, once you realize, eyes, Ocho, they applaud what you do, not who you are. You're fine. The mistake is that they applaud what you do, not who you are. And listen, they're not a fan of you. They're a fan of the team that you happen to play for. Exactly.

And then, guess what? Because that's how he really feel. Because when I get upset, the first thing that I go to, When I get somebody, the first thing I, I ain't thinking the most, what is the worst thing that I know? Oh, you're in? Or that ain't what I do. But they try to go, what's the lowest thing?

What is the most hurtful thing that I can say? That I can get a rise out of said individual. And you can get a rise. You can get a rise if you really care about it. He probably see Isaiah Rogers. What's up, Roger? Hey, bro, what up, man, good. Dapping them up.

I just don't get it. That's right. I never will. I mean, I don't know how other people react to it. Words, stuff type. Let that stuff bother me. I could care less. It go in one and the other.

Well, what's your, did you get this? Did they have, did they have Twitter and IG when you play? Yeah, it was the end of my career. Yeah. Yeah. Oh, okay. Yeah.

I didn't care. I don't care. I didn't care. I didn't care. What you say? I understand. I understand the world we live in. I understand, even though you can't see it, the way people feel, it's still out there. Oh, yeah, for sure. And I understand that. Well, they got a, they got a, they got a, they got a, they got a black car that have unlimited access to say whatever you want to now in the climate that we're in now. We're as divisive as we've ever been as a country. I don't see it getting any better on the horizon. I stay in my lane. I ain't got tying argument with y'all. I'm not going back and forth with y'all. I know how y'all feel about me. I'm going to stay in my, I'm going to keep it moving.

Go ahead. But I've been very blessed, Coacho, is that when I've traveled and you and I both travel a lot of work. Everybody is great. I haven't met with that one person. It's the people that hide behind their computer screens. You know, everybody got thumb muscles. What kind of muscles? Thumb muscles.

Because they type real, real tough. Hey, that's funny. Damn, man. Okay, I'm sorry. I know what I did was wrong, and I should never done that. So now your boss might see that. It might cost you your job.

Hey, you change your tone up real quick. Yeah. He didn't put your name. Oh, he's lucky. could have been messy too now. You could be very messy. That's a part of it. It's always been a bad.

So think about this, Ocho. That's because he played bad. You used to get this just because you were that color. Think about if he went through this, think about what Jackie Robinson went through. Think about what all the black. Black players went through.

Think about they had a rule. I ain't only said, look, but they used to be the NFL. They wouldn't allow black players then. But we're going to, we ain't going to talk about that, Ocho. Think about that. Just because, just because I hadn't done anything. I just want to make a living. That's it.

I'm going to feed my kids. That's it. Yeah, when he picked up the, yeah. The statement from the Minnesota Vikings, we are disgusted by the racial slurs directed at Isaiah Rogers following yesterday's game. As we have said previously, there's simply no room for racist words or action

in sports or society. We support Isaiah and all players who unfortunately experience this type of ignorant and prejudicial behavior far too often, and we ask our fans to continue to fight to eliminate racism. Yeah. Hey. Yes.

We've been putting out quotes and speeches and putting symbols of... Logos and slogans. Pating the street and uncle... You said, oh, Joe, love over hate and racism, all that other stuff, that ain't nothing. It's not stopping. It ain't going nowhere.

It ain't going nowhere. I just, how you treat me. I understand it. I know you don't like me. Okay. I ain't, we ain't got to deal with each other. I ain't got to deal with it. If I know somebody doesn't like me,

why do I, why would I go? Why would I go to anything that that person is having? Why would I give, I don't follow people that don't like me. I don't go to their page. That's what I don't get. Oh, you don't like something that I said. You owe my page. I didn't say it to you.

I don't get it. I don't, and I never would, you know what? don't you, everything is not meant to be understood. I mean, I had to learn that. If you understand the history of it, you know it's not going nowhere. Oh, I understand. Yeah. You know, you have some that you have, you have some that are genuinely not like that.

Generally, not like that. Don't have a hate and a bad bone in their body. I think, you know, the thing is, and obviously clearly, I've been, I've been retired two decades and none of this was out when I was done. But I'm not so sure I would have been on social media when I played during the season. I had a singular focus and, you know, look, everybody wasn't happy.

Everybody's not going to be happy for you. But I expect, Ocho, when you went to Pittsburgh, you expected them to be. Tell me how something. Just keep it, hey, just keep it, just keep it, hey, we're going to keep everything above the belt. no low blows you ain't got to call me the end

you ain't got to talk about my mom and stuff like that all that ain't necessary because you and I both know if I'm walking down the street you ain't going to say hey Ian all that stuff that you say on Twitter and that you're all tough about y'all not going to say that y'all not

no at least I haven't met anybody people look can I can my son take a picture with you I mean I get some time hey bro I don't want to take no pictures and Ocho you'll see them do this hit the thing

hit the turnaround on the camera and still try to snap it I'm like bro yes oh you be sitting in your seat and all of a sudden they pretend like they pretend like they're looking at something I'm looking just like I'm just like this here

I'm like really bro You're not going to ask. You're just going to take it without my permission. Hey. I was in the, uh, Joy was with me the other day. So this guy coming to me, like, man, can I take a picture? I was like, bro. He's like, uh, I don't normally do this.

So why are you doing it? I say, well, how many famous or semi-famous people people you see in the airport. I've never seen anybody. That's why you don't do it. He'd make it seem like he just, he walking down Radeo Drive and see A-list celebrities

and he's passing them up. But he said, yeah, I don't normally do this. I said, well, how many, you know, famous people or semi-famous people you see in the airport? I've really never seen no one. I say, well, that's probably why you don't do it. I mean, a random person

is not going to let you take no picture with them. It's so funny when people say, I normally don't do this. Listen, I hate to bother you. Hey, I hate to bother you, but I'm from to bother you anyway, basically. Come on, man. Just take the picture.

But they wait till they get done eating. I'm just about to eat. So they're getting ready to leave, won't you? I'm at the gym. They don't got their workout in. You mind if I get a picture? Well, let me get my workout in like you got yours in, and we get one afterwards.

How are you going to get your workout in, finish up? Then you're going to interrupt my workout. You didn't interrupt your workout. Now, when you was working out, not one time you said, could you get a picture? Because you was focused on getting your workout. Now I'm trying to get mine in. You mind if I get a pitcher? Yeah.

Hey, listen. People already know. If you catch me in public, you're good. You're good. You good. A young, I'd be having people feeling like I'd went to high school. Like, I got people feeling like it's a goddamn high school reunion. Like, we went to school together, some shit.

Ha ha ha ha. I'll put part A to point B. I'll be moving. You in and out. Hey, you mess around us. Hey, I don't really go to where. You mess around and stop me, but we'll be sitting there talking for 20 minutes. I ain't got that kind of time.

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Remember they diverted this is all late? Yes. They had a four hours of late. Yes. And Shelley was on the thing. Shelly had already been booked us. on another flight. So what Shelly, you know, she booked the flight,

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