Nightcap - Best of NFL News Part 1: Top 10 QBs, Tom Brady SPEAKS on WR psychology, Best WR2 in NFL

Episode Date: July 18, 2026

Shannon Sharpe, Chad "Ochocinco" Johnson, and Joe "King Iso" Johnson bring you the Best of NFL on Nightcap! The crew reacts to the latest debates around the league, including their Top 10 quarterback rankings and Tom Brady breaking down the psychology of playing wide receiver. Plus, they discuss Stefon Diggs believing he's the NFL's best WR2 and more! Subscribe to Nightcap presented by PrizePicks so you don’t miss out on any new drops! Download the PrizePicks app today and use code SHANNON to get $50 in lineups after you play your first $5 lineup! Visit https://prizepicks.onelink.me/LME0/NI... 0:00 - Top 10 QB Rankings17:26 - Tom Brady on the psychology of a Receiver31:16 - Stefon Diggs believes he's the best WR249:44 - George Pickens to play on franchise tag (Timestamps may vary based on advertisements.) #ClubSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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Stay for the story. For the first time in three years, NFL executive and scouts have crowded new QB1 in the ESPN annual rankings. Josh Allen, one, Mahon Boy, two, Stafford, three, Burrow, four, L Jack, five, Dak Prescott, six, Justin Herbert, seven, Drake May, eight, Jerry Golf, nine, Caleb Williams, cracks the top ten. people ask you, man, where are Jalen Hurts? If I'm not mistaken, he was ranked the 17th best quarterback coming into the 26th season. Hey. Ocho, got any problems? Hey, young, this is tough.

Can I ask you a question? Yes. Why ain't Josh Allen in front of my homes? I guess we said, you know, the last couple of years he's been more consistent and my homes coming off an injury. So they're fact Okay, I like Stafford in from the borough I like it

Lamar Jackson Dagg I like it I mean I just really know where I can argue I can't really argue with anything outside of outside of one and two Stafford obviously belongs at three even though he's older

Burrow has a lot to prove so where he had is is respectable would like a little bit more playoff success from him and being healthy and staying healthy this year. He can move up. Lamar Jackson, again, he has to prove himself in the postseason. I mean, they're able to get there. Injuries kind of took a toll on them last year,

so collective as a team, they didn't do well. And outside of that, the numbers, everyone after Lamar Jackson is about right where they should be. Yeah What'd you think of Joe? Yeah, I don't really I don't see no word Where you can gripe and groan as far as

Who should be moved Uh I see they got my boy Dak at 6 All right, we can live with that You know what I mean? Yeah Yeah, I don't see no wrong with the list

I don't You got a guy Y'all have a guy that y'all think should be In the top 10 that's not in the top 10? Not me. Look, I know Jordan Love has been consistent. And Jordan Love has been consistent.

And Jordan Love has these peaks. He has these peaks where he'll throw two, three touchdowns and no picks. And then he'll have weeks where he's like, damn, bro. Yeah. A little inconsistency. But this guy, they got it at 10, I can imagine what he's going to be like in this second year in that offense.

He's going to be a lot better on. Caleb? Yeah. Absolutely. I wonder how many people would take Justin Herbert out and put Joe in love. I don't

I don't think the execs will. They, because they love that size. They love that arm. And he's more mobile than you think. I'm curious what the chat thing. Chad, would you all take Justin Herbert out and put joy in love?

Or no. Or you like the, um, Drake May acquitted himself very well in the second year. I think he'll be even better in his third year under Josh McDaniel system. Lamar, the thing is, is Lamar is in a new system. And the thing is, if you go back and look at Lamar, Lamar won the MVP in Tom Monkin system, and he finished second in Tom Monkin system.

Ocho and I, we talked, Ocho, we talked about it. We had it. We thought he had won in the second time. Josh Allen nipped him at the wire. Mahomes is Mahomes. Matthew Stafford seems to be getting better with age. Joe Burrow, Joe Burrow, he stays healthy. That put up some phenomenal numbers.

Now he just has to do it in meaningful, big games. Hey, I got another. Just, I mean, Drake May took a team to the Super. Jared golf has always been to the Super. Caleb, I expect Caleb Williams. Caleb Williams is going to be. I have a question. We have a quarterback that started out in New York,

didn't play well, went to Carolina, you know, didn't do much. But he goes to Seattle, and not only does he go to Seattle, he went to Minnesota, played extremely well in Minnesota. He went to San Francisco first. Oh, my goodness, I have a guy. Damn near journeyman. Uh-huh.

He goes to Seattle and went to school this first year. So how is he not even in the top ten? Where do you pledging Sam Donald in that equation? I'm tripping. Baker Mayfield is not on there. No. But the question is, okay, to put Sam Donald and Baker Mayfield. Justin Herbert.

Justin Herbert. You taking Justin Herbert on? Okay. So you're going to put Sam Donald and Justin Hurley? I would. Or Jordan Love. Or that you said one more quarterback. Or Baker Mayfield.

That's interchangeable because, I mean, what's the difference? You take, you take, you take, you take, you take Baker Mayfield over. Justin Herbert. Oh, um. I like Baker, but I don't know if I take him over. You're looking at Justin Herbert as the quarterback and then tangibles, you know, tall, strong, can run. But Baker Mayfield is the engine that makes that Tampa Bay offense go on.

You can't deny him. You can't deny him. If they can stay healthy, I like the running back situation in Tampa. They got to stay healthy because remember, Chris, Garwin was Nick last year, Mike Evan was Nick, and Mecca Abuka was doing very well. Then he got Nick at the end, you know, late in the season. If they can stay healthy, they got a solid defense.

Now, Levanti David retired. So Vita Vell is going to be, hey, you know, he's upset. He wants a contract. He got no more guaranteed money. He wants to do a contract extension. Winfield, Jr., I'm anxious to see how they do. Because I think, hey, Atlanta, y'all didn't show me something. Y'all got too much damn talent.

It's time, too, boy. Y'all got too much damn talent to be over there, bulldog. It's time. It's time. I like the controversy that's going to happen over there in Atlanta, too, boy. What do you mean? As far as quarterback? He's talking about Tua and Pinnock, Jr.

He's going to be a hell of quarterback controversy over there. Huh? You think so? Yeah, Joe. I don't even know who your start are going to be. Well, I mean, is Pinnock's healthy? I don't think he healthy from the procedure that he had, right? Joe, he was throwing a minicamp.

Well, here, up my home, throwing that minicamp. camp, Ocho. Yeah. But, is he going to be ready to start the season? That's a good. You know what?

That's a good question. I'm not sure. Very good question. He was moving around like he was with that brace off. We're going to find out. Ocho, Jerry Rice chased down a heckler

after messing up his golf swing during the 2026 American Century Championship. Watch this guys. Yo, hey. Hey. Go get him, Jerry.

Go get him, Jerry. Go get him, Jerry. Go get him, Jerry. Which one? You know, Jay is 63. What do you do to him? I don't understand. Because he messed up in a way you can't, like, with somebody swing,

you can't be talking during the swing. You hollered four. Absolutely. Yeah, four. Go ahead. Okay. You say four after they hit the ball. Okay.

Yes. That means. Is that mean? That made. Hey, man, Jerry take that golf series now. Yeah. Hey, hey, most people do who play. They take the game serious, bro.

They don't play that. All that heckling and you talking and laughing and Kiki and why I'm about to swing. Yeah. Y'all got had that golf too expensive way. You said, hey, I looked at the prices of clubs and the outfit and the shoes. And, nah, I'm good. Y'all can have. They ain't number one of them LV jackets that you got over there.

I'm going to wear the M. Joe, don't do that. Don't do that. Don't do that. Don't compare a jacket. I'm going to wear every time it's cold outside, and I got to go somewhere cold to some damn golf clubs and golf attired.

You will use the same golf club every time you take your ass on the golf court. You don't change golf clubs. And you go get once you get them fitted? I mean, as you get better, you've got to get better equipment. No, the same equipment. No, when I was going to get that good. So you're going to get the better equipment. Who ain't be that good?

Listen, if I get myself in the golf You only got one eye Yeah, I play my Cyclops I play my whole career with one eye That'll tell you how good I'm going to I know Now if I get in the golf, boy

A, a Steph Curry, you might go sit down, boy Huh? Joe, once I lock it on something, Joe, I'm here to be the best You catch on like that, you catch on that bad? You should play soccer, didn't you? Huh? Yeah, I see.

I seen you play soccer, but you're playing at home depot goal. No, no. No. Some regular people that play soccer. Oh, okay. Hey, that man just worked the 14-hour shift in a day to try to play soccer. Now, you ain't messing with Steph. These guys play too much.

Are you? Guys like Steph Curry, Romo, guys that play every single day. You've got to play that every single day. Every single day to be good at it. For like six to eight hours. I ain't got time for that, Joe. See? It's about 60.

Them 6, 8 hours, I spend streaming playing FIFA, playing calling duty, playing battlefield, playing Madden, now playing NCAA 27. You know, I'm mad. I'm not home. You got to be obsessed like you were in football. In order to be good at golf, you got to be obsessed with it like that.

That's all my brother do is play golf. That's all he does. It's a dick. Hey, it's addicting when you really find out how to hit that little white ball and you can get it to go where you want to go, that's when it starts getting really addictive. Yes. Yeah.

And that's all he does is go to everybody's tournament. Everybody got a golf tournament. My brother showed up. Alonzo Morning, Otis Anderson, Grant Fierre, it doesn't matter. He got a golf tournament. He got to go check out Dominique. You know, Dominique Wilkins got a golf tournament. Where are you having it?

East Lake. I think he might have win the Dominique. I don't know. I got to ask him. I ask him. I know it's in Atlanta. I'm not sure the golf course, but yeah. He's probably at East Lake.

Yeah. Hey, I don't play no golf off, but I got one hell of a swing, Joe, boy. Yeah, yeah, yeah. You know, I'm really, I'm the putt, putt, I beat the brace of you and Joe in puttputt. Joe, you got to see him a swing, Joe, because I know, I'm really good at relaxing.

Boy, I'm on a palm tree. Relax my body, relax my body, Joe, you know. Yeah. my arm, I can just, just real good technique, Joe. I just can't hit that damn ball, boy. What damn? All that don't do mean nothing if you can't hit the ball. What the hell?

Hey, Ocho, you got to keep, you got to keep your head down, bro. You got to keep your head down. You got to be still, Joe. Huh? You got to be still. And see this here? Yeah, that's the hard point. So you bet you've been, you'd hit the baseball.

Yeah, he don't know no better. I ain't like that. Listen, that ain't for me, man. Let me see you swing. Let me see you swing. Hold on. Let me see you swing. Watch my swing, Joe.

Hey, hey, watch my swing. Watch my, hey, tell me where you can see me. Can you still see me? Yeah. Turn this way or turn this way. Which way? Where do you have a way you want? Hold on.

Are you hitting cross-handed? Yeah. You see, I got it right? Right hand on top. Okay, right hand on top. Yeah, like this. Locked it's locked. Yeah.

You see? Yeah, it's locked. It's locked. Pink it through index finger. What do you doing? No. What? Your hips don't move.

Oh, Joe, your body don't move. Hey, it's here. Chad, are y'all seeing what I'm saying? Yeah. It looked like everything at the damn bottom move. There go. There's nothing moving. I'm paying attention.

You're messing up a swing. You're worth it. I'm going to have to Jerry Rice. Watch me, now. Watch me. Just pay it. Okay, okay. Why are you loaded up?

You can't load up that left leg, man. You're loading up that leg like you're feeling hit a ball, baseball. You got to keep them feet planting, man. They were planted, Joe. They were planted. Hey, listen. Hey, see, listen, every time when you...

Chat, about messing up. And listen to me now. Anytime you work with somebody, right? Anytime you work with somebody, it's not going to be perfect. But what I have and what you just saw is as a foundation for improvement, huh? The foundation for improvement. not going to look like Scotty Sheffler, but I can get to look like

Scottie Sheffler with two or three months of training. Okay, I got you. I got you. You hear me? I see, for somebody that don't golf and it would never go out there, see, I look good. Yeah. No, I think you might be looking more like Adam Schefter.

I don't know about those Scottish Sheffler. You know, I didn't, I didn't hit nine holes with Scottie at Augusta. Hey. Come on, man. Man, they're not going to let you chop up Augusta. Nah, yeah, no, tie their grass up. Hey, that way. Ooh, that kind of hurt my,

hurt my peck a little bit. Yeah, you got too much muscle. How would you get rid of say that? Oh, man. Don't get, don't tell you. Hey, Joe. Hey, look at the camera, Joe. Hey, you see that?

I see. I see. You rocked up? I see. I see. But that joke was like a praying man. Let's know the joke. Hey, Joe.

Hey, hey, hey, um. Man, they're going to call somebody who got bugs in the room. Hey, that's what's going to surprise him, right? When I see him in person, that's what I'm going to surprise you. But, God damn it. When you see him tomorrow, he's going to like, damn it. I'm going to Joker strong. Yeah, Joe.

Yeah. Hey, hey, um, mind you last week before I came to New York, huh? I've been here about four days. That right? Yeah. You know, I got 315 two times. Oh, yeah, you couldn't up. Yeah, I'm sure.

What you do, you do it, 315, two times? All, one and a half. I'm lying, because I couldn't get it back up the second time. Joe, you hit 315? Yeah, I hit 315. Damn, Joe. Hey, Joe, matter of fact, you know what? I'm a, I ain't going to punch you.

I'm going to slap you with my back hand because I don't want to mess up my nails. Hey, hey, hey, oh, I'm going to lift the last up and throw him over my shoulder. Why? Yeah, I got something for it. You've heard the chaos. Now you can see it.

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That's how you can put them over your shoulder and like a kid up. Hey, that's how to do my kids, man. Joe don't do me like that in public, yo? Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. AJ Brown got called out by Zone. Childhood hero. Let's take a listen with Tom Brady had to say on new heights. That position, it's like I almost want to like the psychology of receiver, I almost want to say like,

you're going to catch 110 balls this year, okay? You're 17 games. You're a great receiver. You're going to catch 110 balls. One game you're going to get 11 and one game you're going to get 3. And the next game you're probably going to get 11, then you're going to 3. I can't have you like the happiest guy in the world when you catch 11 or the most miserably. guy on the team when you catch three. We got to look at it over the course of year. You've got to sustain because it is a lot of emotional energy that you put out to that position to go,

come on, come on, come on, stay locked in. Let's go because I need you. Come on. And it's like that position takes away. If you have that volatile emotional output, it takes a lot of energy from a lot of people to keep that player really stable. So you've got to like try to reframe it for them. and just say, listen, like, you may get three, but you're going to get 11. Or you might get 11, 11, 11, 11, and then, you know, three, three.

It's just the way goes. If they're doubling Travis, you ain't touching the ball. That's the reality. If they're butching you at the line of scrimmage with the defensive end and they've got, you know, some ridiculous athlete over the top of you. But it frees it out for other people. And you've got to be cool with that. So, I mean, it's, that is a, as we're going to see it again this year. You know, who's the next unhappy receiver?

And I understand it. I mean, that's probably I don't. For sure. They want to be involved in the game, you know? And Asia wanted to be involved in the game. I covered a lot of those Eagles games, you know, and that passing offense isn't, that's not what that team's known for. You know, so now he's actually going to a team where they are more known for their passing

offense. So, you know, there will be maybe a little more satisfaction from him from that standpoint. Go ahead, Ocho. Hey, I like exactly what he said, Ango, Chad. That was me. That was me. one game, 11 catches. One game, 10 catches.

Joe, then all of a sudden, I get a game with three catches. What is Carson doing in the huddle? Before we break, lock in. What is Carson doing to me on the sideline when I go sit on the cooler? Stay with me. Hey, stay in the game. If I can't get it to you, please understand why I can't get it to you and you are opening up things for other people.

But then in my point, my whole thing, I always look at Carson and say, why are we allowing them to dictate what we want to do? Are we planning to this? their hand. I think we should deal our own thing, but I understood that's the way the game goes. It is as and flows each week. Each week is different. Some weeks you're going to get

yours, some weeks you're not. But the hardest part for us as receivers because we play a dependent position is those weeks, where you're not getting that ball. Right. Oh, my goodness. And you feel like you took my part of it.

You feel like you ain't involved at the? No, it hurt, Joe. I'm a lot to you, Joe. But It hurt, boy. Not, you're not involved, you're not involved

because they're taking you away. Yeah. They're taking you away and your team is not doing anything to put you in position to make a play. They're saying, okay,

y'all going to take Ocho away. Okay, forget it. Y'all can have Ocho. We're going to work with everybody else. But the problem that So now I'm going to do the problem. So I didn't did all this work

Wednesday, Thursday, and Friday. Now Sunday, I'm the decoy. The problem that AJ didn't understand when he catching those 12 and 13,

what about the other receiver? What is he going through? Yeah. You see that? See that happen? Now, at some point in time, when you're getting your 11, 12, 13, that means somebody else getting them two to three, right?

Right, don't you? Yeah. Somebody else getting them two's infused. But you ain't thinking about them. Oh, yeah, boy, feed you boy. Feed me, Seymour. Yeah, yeah. I looked at it like, man,

I got 13. I got 12. I got 11. I look over there. Rod got four. The first Super Bowl, Rod didn't catch a pass. Rod Smith did not catch a pass.

I know he was hard, well. He'd come back to the next Super Bowl, get five for one-eight, one-thirty-something, and a touchdown. That's how it was. Some games, I have monster games. Some games, Root-Foods have monster games.

Sometimes Easy Ed have monster games. You just had the, the one thing we know is going to be constant, that 30, we're going to get 25, 30 touches. Yeah. Every time. So if we got 65 plays, now find out how we're going to divvy up those 30, 35, the 30 pass attempts, and when John going to complete 22 of them.

Yeah. So you got me, Ed, Rod, two running backs, and a four, and Willie Green. Because you know if somebody get 10, the day, but 12 more passes, divv it up between six people, four people, five people. Hey, hey, and if he called your number, you tried to make damn show you caught your parents, then you man. Hey, even if he didn't call my number, I'm trying to get open first. First one, first slurbed. That's how I was. Now, look, I was with him the longest, and I had the best relationship with him,

but he was going to throw the ball to the guy that came open first. Yeah. Now, he had a lot of trust in me because I was the biggest, I was the biggest, most physical receiver. And you know I'm going to fight, hey, I'll put a guy in hell but slap off his damn ear before I lay the middle of a second. Yeah. But that's the way it is. And I was trying to tell him, I'm like, oh, Joe, your number one receiver in today's game, he probably ain't catching less than 85, 90 balls. 17 games, when you project it out, he's going to get somewhere between 85 and 100 balls.

That's if he just decent. You don't top, you puka, you chase, you JSCN? Yeah. Justin Jefferson, you don't get them tongue. Well, Jolla can't do nothing about this quarterback situation. That's why he ain't getting no balls. He's going to be straight. He's going to be straight.

Who are you talking about? Justin Jefferson. Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah. Playing what he gets, Justin, like, hold on. Man, how I go from catching 105, 115 every year, to all of a sudden, I'm struggling to get him. a thousand yards. Yeah, Kyle are going to get him right out.

He got over it, but barely. But I also want guys to understand that you're still valuable, even if you don't catch passes. You can run, you can block, because your time going to come. It does. It does. I mean, there have been very few people.

Every once in a while, you get a JSC and you get a Cooper Cup, Ocho. The Niburgents seem to catch 100, they catch eight, nine balls every game. Puga catching. Like, damn. them. But you go back and look, Joe, oh, show, them joke's got 180.

They don't got 190 targets. They're getting 12 targets a game. You give me 12 targets a game. I will come down with 7 to 8 of them. 7 to 8 of them, over 15 games. That's 120, 6, 130 catches. You also have to think about, too, how different the offense is on.

Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah. Offense that they play in. Look at Sean McVeigh system. Yeah. McDonald's over there in Seattle. Who else is like that? Kyle Shaddenhan, they do the ball. Oh, yeah.

You know, have another bounce back season. Mark my words. Mike Evans. Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah. You think so in San Fran? As long as he stay healthy, them hamstrings can hold up. Yeah. In Shannon's system?

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So you drop your old famous line. Oh, no. Oh, to him and he told him he had to go sweat it out. And he bawled out that game too. He did. Man, we played, we had the rookie night. So then we were Friday. So we had rookie night on Friday.

We played that Sunday. Remember, I told you, we went to Del Frisco's. Him and Ashley Lee Bill was 22-5. Damn. Yeah, we had it right. You know, I said your boy, right. You know, I said it right. Joe, that's one thing about your board.

Now, when I'm in charge of the party, which if you're on offense, I'm in charge of the party. You know, I'm going to tell you where we're going. And you're going to pay for everything. I was a party planner. Before he was even involved, I was party planning back then. Man, he going to come on the top, man. He's talking about he doesn't feel good.

He's a shot, man. I said, oh, no, man, you go get your ass out there run some one-teens, sweat, throw up, whatever you got to do, get your ass. Hey, we're going to do some contrast. Man, guys, y'all don't realize how Portswoods had a good career. He had a really good career. He went to the pro. ball. He had 1,500 yards rushing.

It's both years in Denver. He was NFL rookie of the year, offensive rookie of the year. Porter's, I'm upset at Porter's, because Porter's supposed to be in the Hall of Fame. That's how much talent he had. Easily.

But I, and I can say this now, because it's over with, but y'all don't know how many nights I sat in my hotel room and watch Porters leave and take his ad home. I ain't say nothing. Porters. You think I'm the only one to see you, Pope?

I used to call him Pope. Pope, you think I'm only one to see you? Why you won't do it right, bro? I say, bro, do you know how special you are? I say, porters, I play with an MVP. I play with a Super Bowl MVP. I say, Porters, you got more talent than you. But you don't work as hard as you.

You don't want to live no weight. You don't want to do it. It was so frustrating. It was so disappointed. and I knew. I knew once I left, he wasn't going to be there. It's only a matter of time.

Because I could, I could somewhat keep him, you know, keep him in the goal, you know, keep him between the lines, guys. I could somewhat keep him

between the lines. Once I left, I know he would. Hey, you all used to run that play in Denver. T.D. used to run that play too. That Peyton Manning and Edgham used to run.

That fake AT hand off. That long stretch. And then they, and the line box, and it cut back against that grain? Oh, yeah, yeah. Well, we talk, that's a, we run, we run, we run, we run handoff,

our favorite two plays was handoff strong and handoff weak. It is. We toss it, we'll toss it to TD, he'll start wide, and on that play, you only get one cut. Yeah, that's it. Well, Porter's used to kill that playboy in Denver, boy.

Oh, yeah. That's why, that's why you had so much success, because we treated it the same way. It didn't matter who you were. came in, you got one cut. Alex Gil, rest your soul, Alex. Alex, what, doing on that dancing? He said, you ain't at the club.

Ain't no dancing back here. Get your ass down here. One cut. Alex, like, hold on. Alex, how are you telling this? I said, this man to run a Russian title. He's MVP of the Super Bowl. He's the MVP of the league.

And you're telling him how to run. Well, clearly it worked in the Sharpie. I said, yeah, Alex, you got a damn point. You got a point. But porters, guys, porters had so much ability. That, man, go back and look at the game that he had against Kansas City. What he did? Like 225 touchdowns.

Oh, no, he could go. And Joe, once he gets in that open, Joe? There wasn't no catch him. Man. But I knew, because like I said, I could kind of keep him, you know, I could talk to her and put my arm around in. He's going to go in the rate room. He's dropping the dumbbells like he's lipping.

He ain't lipping-ish. He clanging waves. He ain't lipping-ish. Man, the way's heavy. Man, I can't... Bro. Yeah, they have it, mofo. He says he's the best wire receiver number two in the NFL

and no one is better than him. Name your number two receiver right now. And is he better than me? Ocho? If they're a number two receiver better than, there are a couple. I mean, yeah, it's a couple. Dallas got what? Whoever you say is one, the other two is better to step on.

Cincinnati, whoever you say is one is better than him. Minnesota? The Rams? The Rams. Hold on that. What he said, have true to it now. Yeah, I'm just saying, as you go to the team that their number two is better than him. Right, right.

As you go against, as you go a bit, further and you get a little deeper into some of some of the some of these other teams like he is he would be a bona fide their number two is not better in him and he's sure and he's right even coming off a ACL injury and having a thousand yards and I'm not sure how many touchdowns he has now if they're going to use them you you take their number two and you put him in that place you're still going get the same production based on what he's able to do hell I think he'd be good in Baltimore hell I'm not so sure what you call him is better than him what did I say what did I say he he would go.

Bimo. Give it a chance. Either Baltimore or the commanders. I'm still standing on that too now. Hell, he'd be good in Cleveland. Hey, you know what? That's a good one. Might be even better.

That's a good one. That's a good one. Yeah, I'm curious to hear what the chat has to say, especially outside of Dallas, you know, Dallas, Cincinnati, Minnesota. Rams. Rams. Well, we have in Philly. we, I mean,

limited, he's not proven yet, but he will be the number two. I'm trying to think who else. I mean, there's true to that. Yeah. But the thing is, Joe, Ocho,

and we talked about this. Yes. Once you start bouncing around, it's hard for you. That's how people look at you now. Yeah. They look at him as a journey and receiver, Ojo.

Yeah. Yeah. Joe, you know how it is. Once a player, all of a sudden, you start getting traded. You were involved in the trade And then you involved in the trade

And you involved in the trade You're adjourned me Hey but it's crazy though Because he was a thousand yard receiver last year And I thought he played great for the Patriots bro Yes Like he was reliable and all that How to hear?

I mean great team leader too Joe Yes I agree I agree with both of you guys But the thing is Is just how they view you now Joe you know hey Think about it He started in Minnesota

He went to Buffalo he goes to Houston, he goes to New England, and now this will be his 15. Mm-hmm. How old is Steph now? What you say, 32? How old is Steph, Ash? I think he's probably 32, 33.

It got to be. Yeah. You know, it doesn't make any better with all the all-field stuff. Because, obviously... Man, y'all talking about Detroit Lions. So you try to say he... So whoever you say is one,

so Armand-Rah is one, he better than J-mo? No, no, no, no, no, don't do that. Who said that? And that's my bad for leaving Detroit off that list. Don't do that. No. No.

Let me add them to the part, too. Yeah, for sure. Come on, nah. Chicago good. Green Bay good. Hey, them young bulls over there. Yeah. I guess, I guess when you think about it,

he's 32-Ocho. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Is he going to get picked up? Y'all think you're going to get picked up? Yeah, oh, yeah. Yeah, I think he'll get picked up. Absolutely. I bet it's one of those two teams I just said, Joe Watts.

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Yeah, I mean, he won't make bet minimum, long as they get him some respectable, give him some respectable based on what he's able to come in and do. Daryl Owens doesn't believe there will be any drop-off with A.J. Brown leaving the Eagles. I mean, they've got Devonte Smith. He's always been a number one guy, even when A.J. was here. He could have easily been receiver number one at any game.

So, again, he's going to show leadership. He's going to bring those guys along. so I don't see any drop-off. Those guys are going to be fine. Ocho, how are you taking this? T.O's right. T.O. understand the systems. He understand the difference in the offensive schemes

that Philly runs, the offensive scheme that the Pages run. Hell, the patrons throw the ball, what, 100 times more. I mean, obviously, I'm exaggerating the number saying 100 times more, but they're throwing offense. You know, if you look at Philly having a running back like Seekwon, you can understand why even in the past and error that the NFL is now, they would be a run-first team. You're one of the few teams that have a back that is elite

in a tier one running back where the offense flows to run. The run opens up the pass. Yeah. Over there in New England, they're throwing that thing. Yeah, they throw in it for sure. They're letting it fly. And he's going to have a much better season, maybe even a better season than all those combined.

Yeah. Philly. I can see that. Yeah. I can see that. I just think the thing you look, I think some of the things that he did in New England, I mean, in Philly, he ain't trying that with Brable.

Now, Brable knows him. He knows Brable from their time in Tennessee. So he knows how Brable is. Brable knows how he is. But I can assure you, they're not going to have some of the issues that he had in Philly. They're not going to have that in New England. Hello.

Yeah. You know, T.O. was very strong in the state. statement, me and you and I was talking, and people like, well, AJ was the best receiver. No, AJ won a ring. Congratulations. But even in Philly, he wasn't better than T.O. No. No.

What? He wasn't. And that's not a knock on him. It ain't nobody in Philly ever played by Philly. Hell, ain't nobody in the NFL history is better than T.O. Unless you go into the conversation and want to bring up Randy Moss and Jerry Rice is in a class of his own. That's what I said.

He's in class of zone. He's in the three best receivers. and I've seen a lot of them. For me, if Jerry's number one, a lot of people believe that two and three are there in a chain of them. Some people got Randy, some people got T.O.

But for me, those are the top three. One, it's unmistakable. Right. 22,000 yards, 1,500 catches, 193 receiving touchdowns, another eight on runs. what are we talking?

We're not even having that discussion. Hey, and Joe, you know how we talked about. I forgot what we were talking about. You watch hockey up close. You watch tennis up close and how different it is at the highest level.

Joe, I had the opportunity, man, not only played with Tio, but to watch him up close when we had to play against him. He was with Dallas. Yeah. Well, young bull, he was something special, man. He was like that.

Man, man, Joe, man, listen, man. He was something special, man. I found myself on the sideline as a fan watching a friend of mine and got a better understanding on why he was as great as he was. He was a monster. Saw Randy in person up close, Joe? So did I. Jesus Christ.

Joe, I ain't never seen nothing like that. Yeah. I ain't never seen nothing like that. The DV playing seven yards off. The DVD in his back pedal. Randy take three steps and throw his hand up. You ain't even broke the cushion yet.

Can you get, can you get, can you step on the toes first? Man, Randy come out of the ball, man. He hit by four, you know, by three steps. You know, Randy three steps, he damn there eight, eight, eight, nine yards. Absolutely, absolutely. And he throw the hand up in a. and if the DB is still in his back pedal by the time he get going,

like that fourth or fifth step and the DB says his back pedal trying to be pretty, man strike at the band. Better be in a full-out sprint already running backwards before he closed that cushion. If you're not,

man, it's over. And T.O., you throw Hito or Hitch Rock, you're not getting him down. You better have the cavalry coming. You're not getting him down. He ran, angry every plate. And he's shifty with it too.

You notice how big Tio was? He was a little shifty in the opening up here. And look, he rubbed people the wrong way, but I love this game. I never questioned Tio. Tio going to block. Tio going to do what he's supposed to do. Yeah, I get all the antics, and they try to make it seem like when they won, he didn't have play a role, but when they lost it was because of his antics,

I ain't by none of that bulljad. ain't by none of it. For me, until somebody else come along, the three greatest receivers that I've ever seen, and I've seen a bunch of them, Jerry, I mean, look, so we just start, forget one. Let's just start go two on.

We can forget, we can forget number one. 1,500 catches. The man had a thousand yard receiving Joe at 40. You know who got the second most receiving yards at a 40-year-old? Oh, Tom Brady. What? Tom Brady, got the second most receiving yards for a 40-year-old.

You know, it's hard. It's hard to play that long, Joe. Hey, the organization, they got to love you, boy. Damn. Jerry had a hundred-yard game at 42. Hear me. Y'all, you'll be going to go look at you. Yeah, hey, and they went throwing them.

Y'all better go look at Jerry numbers. Uh, Ocho, Joe, Lamar Jackson in the NFL's top 100. Yeah. Rank number 69. Damn. Bulljad.

He dropped 67 spots. Damn. Ocho, do you agree? You know, damn well, I don't agree, huh? If he was number two last year, he should have dropped the number three. And that's about as far as it should go. as far as it should go.

I think the injury, Ocho, and the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the year before. Number two. And he dropped the what? 69. Oh, yeah. That's your own favorite number. But you, but, you, but, did you know what? Hey, Chad, Chad, you feel what I said?

No. You see what I said? Chad. There you go. There you go, Chad, what I tell you. I wouldn't even think I wouldn't even thinking like that. Now we got.

Nobody was but him. Oh, now y'all, now y'all to worry police. Okay, this is how y'all going to ask, huh? Check, yeah. You see what I'm talking about, chat? Now, I told y'all. Ocho and I've been trying to tell y'all, who number one.

But y'all didn't want to believe that. I see. Y'all didn't want to believe that, did you? Now look at it. Hey, I see. And nobody talk about, no. We talk about 69 the man dropped. We talk about football.

Football. Football. About 69 is our paper. I see. I see. I see what Spanky. was talking about last night. I see what Spaker was talking about.

Yeah, I see what Spanker was talking about. He couldn't wait. He almost jumped through his damn camera to let y'all know, come on, man. Oh, Joe, I read it. I said Lamar Jackson has been ranked number 69 on the NFL top 100 list. Ain't even going through my mind.

That ain't even crossed my mind. First thing, it comes to him. Oh, you know, that's y'all two favorites. Where did that come from? Yeah, that's why Joe number one, Right there. Chat, now y'all see it. Now y'all see what I'm talking about.

Hey, laughing in person. Hey, Chad, Chad. I don't know what I'm going to do. This is why he got to get this sign. See what I'm talking about. That's why he's got to get this sign. Matter of fact, you know what I just thought about on? He tried to fool us on the show, but he needs that permission slip because everything I talk about he'd probably be doing and she won't want him out of that house.

There is right there. Whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa. Whoa. Yeah. Everything like what? What you mean? Huh? What you mean?

What you mean everything you be doing? Everything I don't put on here. You didn't probably put all them toys and did it all that. So you know what? That's why he can't go, chat. That's why he can't go. Look what came out of the mouth. We talk about ranking in the NFL top 100.

Yeah. He talked about, so he's going whole left field. My bad. My bad. My bad. My aunt. I ain't on the bad. Hey, if that's you, it's okay.

You ain't know my bad, brother. That don't make you no bad, brother. I still look at you the same. Joe, even though that's the case, it's still up, Ocho, and Iso. Hey, we're not going to get rid of you

because it's how you are. It's all good. Hey, Joe, just get it. Joe, let it out. Hey, boy, y'all out of pocket, boy. Hey, hey. It's all good, though. Hey, but guess what?

Guess what? See, y'all can't fool me and check because, see, we already know. You know what I'm saying? When we do the orders, you notice how it's always me last and y'all fighting for first and second. So it don't matter that child

say all this chat don't be believing nothing. They're hell. Hey, Joe. You brought a fool. The chat just said, ISO one, unct two,

and me third. Ain't no way. You ain't away. Ain't way. You can't pull the wool over everybody's too long. Ain't no way. Ain't no way,

boy. You've done a great job. The greatest job, the greatest magic trick that's ever been pulled, the devil convinced the world he didn't exist. The second greatest trick

is Ocho, I mean, the ISO trying to pull food love to make it sure he ain't number one and everybody know it is. Hey, you want to be in a little great trick that happened. The devil convinced the world he didn't exist and Ocho convinced the chat

that he ain't won. Hey. Yeah. Yeah, he's in it right. Hey, I'm no, I saw you want also, Ocho, Ocho, too. Hey, Joe, what's so? Joe, I sent Joe, I sent something Joe in the DMs.

He saw it. What? He saw it. What I sent you to the DM today, Joe? Hold on. What did you send me? You said me. You see me. Yeah. It's there. I know you. Would you send me something freaky? I said, this. Oh, man. What was that?

Oh, man. That people don't show right there. You know that your boy over there. I can't believe dude did that. You know that's your boy. Hey, man. But that's damn, that's a precipitus drop. Yeah.

They tripping, bro. Hey, sometimes you need... L. Jack got to come back with a vengeance. That's what I'm saying. L. Jack, last time they did you like that man, you came out and you was on a mission. I think you ended up number one last time they had that man rank way down there like that.

And you need that sometimes, okay, Ojo, when you're him. You know what I mean? You need a little doubt. You know what I mean? So you're making it. you lock in and hit that field, you know what I mean, put on the mean demonstration, show them boy you ain't playing.

Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, you're a being demonstration, who are you, hey. Look, look, look, look, that's the right look. We are, we are, we are, hey, bad out of the diamonds, I mean, them, sparks. Look, look, look, look, now you just open up a whole can of hash.

Now, you just feel like you just go on through it out there, see what I'm saying? Hey, Joe, he said, Papa, I'm proud of you. Again, good thing. Hey, my home boy, Bucking used to be at the S Savannah Police Department. Had to call that hostage and negotiated, talk him down. For hours, he still tried to do something. What's wrong with him?

Oh, Joe. Come on, man. Come on. I had to put an ice pack. Damn. Yeah, I had to put an ice pack on it. I got me old baby sock by four cubes of ice and put him in there. Take all the swelling out of him, Joe.

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So definitely play football first. Kind of like I did last year, then worry about the contract. Well, let my agent worry about it, really. Pickens is the only player to be franchise tagged this year and not receiving long-term deal before the deadline. Daniel Jones, two years, 88 million. Breeze Hall, three years, 43 and a half million. Kyle Pitts, three years, 54 million. Ocho?

Are the Cowboys going to regret not certain exciting pick to a long-term deal when they could have got him? Because if he plays like he played last year, it's a $45 million. He is. They're probably not going to be able to give it to him. Joe, obviously, if you saw Pickings last year, you understand what you do. You're in a better situation with a better quarterback and a better offense in general. So he's going to pick up where he left off last year.

He's going to have a great season, and the Cowboys are going to regret it. Now, they're going to do everything they can this year in hoping that having George Pickens, you know, on that team, they get as far as they can. They're hoping they get as far as they can, Uncle Joe. And, hey, Joe, honestly, I'm hoping they do. I know Pickens is going to ball out because of the situation that he's in. You have a very, very, very good quarterback. When the opposite comes your way, all you got to do is do what you did last year. Make plays.

I show hope you're right, Ocho. I'll show hope he. There's two things you can count on when it comes to them people with the star in the helmet. You can count on a city going to hell to slap off. And you count on George Pickens being NFL young boy. He going to show up now. Oh, yeah. Listen, I hope he do his thing, man.

I think he will get paid on his own. Ocho, maybe not this season. I'm saying, but after the season. It won't be in Dallas, Joe. How do you figure that? Oh, Joe, you don't know what's going to happen. Joe, I just don't see how they pay him. You know, Dad, they're going to have to do something with that, Joe.

Yeah. Back to get over $300 million. He's going to be close. He's going to get $400 million. He's going to want $65, $70 million a year. What are you going to do with Quentin Williams? What are you going to do with CD? Listen, we're going to have to cross them bridges when we get to them.

But if we take care of business this season, you win, everybody gets paid. No, everybody can't get paid. No, it ain't going to be everybody. You got two number ones on your team, Joe. Dak Prescott's going to want $150 million at signing. He's going to want, he's going to want $275,300 million, guaranteed, Joe. Jerry got it.

He got to hell. It's a salary cap, Joe. You can't pay all them, can't pay all the people, Joe. Well, listen. Oh, Cho. Listen, it's a good thing to have, Joe. I mean, you think. What was that make it?

What's that make it? Like 55 now? 60 now. What do you think he's going to want that? He's the highest paid. quarterback too, huh? Well, no. My old boy.

My old boy. My old boy is 64 bill. That's right. That's right. You got some work to do, fellas. Yeah. I wish I was none but the best. I know.

Don't worry because y'all going to hear from us. Y'all going to hear about us. Y'all going to hear from us all damn year. Oh, who to receive? No, we won't. I mean, y'all start out fast. But, you know, a horse that poop fast, don't poop long.

He'll poop long. So I already know how y'all will get out there. All right. You're going to be hyped. First day, you're going to come out here, hype. Hey, what I tell you, how about them cowboys, don't choke? And just slowly as the season progress. Come on, man.

No, no, no, no. That ain't going to be us, baby. We locked in. We locked in. Okay. Yeah, we're going to have an NLC sold up over there. So what about Philly? Oh, man, they just lost A.J. Brown.

I know they got the young boy just come in. What's the name? Melica. What's the name? Millic. Meli Lemon. Yeah, yeah, yeah. But, yeah, we ain't, we ain't worried about it.

What about the Giants, Joe? We ain't worried about that. They banged up here. Scataboo neighbors all. Look, what do y'all think of doing? I'm saying, that man had ankle surgery. Neighbors probably ain't even coming back this year. That what y'all don't know.

What about Odell? You don't got no belief in Odell coming back? I know. I hope Odell do a thing. I like Odell. But I'm saying, damn, you expect Odell to carry the damn giant wide receivers? You know what to carry him? Boy, to neighbors come back.

That's what they brought them in there for. Come on, Ocho. Come on, Ocho, we know that ain't. We know that ain't happening. I think O'Dell going to have some great moments. He's going to have some great games. But to think he's going to carry them for 17 games, y'all trip. So basically what you're telling me is the Dallas Cowboys will run the NFCs.

Tadda. There, I've been trying to tell you that. I don't know why you act like it's so hard for you to understand. Damn. Yeah. I like, I can tell you, I know who's going to run the NFCs. I can, I can, I can, I can, I can, I can, I can, I can, I can, I can, I can, I can't, I can, I can't, I can't, I can't, I can't, I can't, I'm, I can't, I'm, I can't, I'm, I can't, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm gonna, I'm, I'm gonna, I'm gonna, I'm gonna, I'm gonna get, I'm gonna do the ball, they gonna do. Now, at the team, I don't know what y'all gonna do. Okay. I'm gonna take your word for it. Oh, Joe, I don't know Joe, I don't know. Cowboys.

the Cowboys, the Cowboys normally like Cowboy. That's one thing we can count on the Mocho, we can count on the Cowboys. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. You know, one thing about them, they can move the needle. They can move the needle. It just don't, it don't move when they're supposed to, though. Oh, yeah. You know, we're going to make it happen

now. What are you going to make happen? We're going to get this championship. That's what we're going to get. If the Knicks, hell on, if the Knicks just won a damn championship in 35 years, come on, man. Fifty-three. 53. Come on, man. I like it.

It's our time. You see what happened? Oh, Joe, you know what happened? Because the Knicks won a championship in 53 years. He said, well, it's 30 for us, so it's time to have it with what? I like it. I like it. Yeah, it's time, bro.

It's time. Oh, the Super Bowl is SOFi. Because next year it's in Atlanta, Joe. So you might want to wait until they come to Atlanta. The Super Bowl in Atlanta, the next year? The year after. This year is going to be in SOFI. Okay.

In 2027, it's in SoFi. in 2028 it's in Mercedes-Benz. Damn. What is coming back to Florida, man? No. I think it, no, Joe Ocho, I think it goes, I think it might go back to Vegas. Because you know they love it.

Vegas, especially now, and they love F in New Orleans. I don't know what it is about New Orleans, but nobody's had more Super Bowl than New Orleans. Hold on, hold on, hold on. Nobody has had probably more All-Star games. than New Orleans. Hell, NBA all-sart games. Hell, I know I played them by three or four of them in New Orleans.

Damn, many time we're going to play in New Orleans. New Orleans, get the Super Bowls, man. Why is that? Look, hey, it's a dome. Hey, they like to party. People like to go drag out with a good time. But see, that's why, you know, you put it in a warm weather. People like to get outside.

All these cold weather, man, they don't know. They had the Super Bowl in Minnesota. Man, that damn 10 degrees. What the hell are going to do? with Minnesota. Ain't nobody tried to walk around no damn mall of America

and there's no disrespect. Minnesota is one of the best kept secrets now quite just kept. But anyway, that's neither here doing there. Hello. But anyway, I would say it.

Look at Joe, look at your name. Yeah, no, I'm saying hello. I'm picking up what you putting down. Hey, hey, a prince back in the 90s, they had glam slam. Yeah.

After me, though. He'd be up in there too. Yeah. And I think they had another club that Prince on their first, think it was first half. Chat, am I correct?

I know glam slam. Like that? Yeah. I tell you out the story off there. Oh, she ain't with hell. Shade with hell. But what's about that?

What's about that? What's about that? Long, long time ago. You know, you know, Dollar Bill said long time ago. Every game started an Africa. Long, long, long time ago. You didn't have to bugging naked.

Buggin' naked. Yeah. February 14th, guess what? It's on Valentine's Day this year. It's in SoFi. In February of 28, it's in Mercedes-Benz. February of 29, it's an allegiance.

In 2030, it's in Nashville, Tennessee. Damn. You know, they just built a new stadium. Buffalo, don't y'all put no damn bid in. Try to get no stadium up there. Buffalo just built a new stadium? Yeah. Man, look, that should come.

Hey, that should come with it here. you build a new stadium, that means you should be getting the Super Bowl or the All-Side game. Absolutely. They try to. Because what happened, you have to be to get all the kinks and bugs out of it.

So you have to be in the stadium at least a year before they'll give you a Super Bowl. Okay. But come on, man. I mean, look at SOFI, L.A., Atlanta. Y'all know how we get down. Allegiant, Vegas. There's so much for you to do.

You can sit your ass out by the pool. You can go get you. gambling, they got eateries, Vegas got it all. Vegas gonna be in a five-year rotation. Vegas gonna get one every five years for sure. Vegas gonna get one every five years for sure. A home world cup only happens once in a lifetime, and we are not missing a second.

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