Nightcap - Best of NFL News Part 2: A.J. Brown MADNESS, Anthony Richardson DELUSION!

Episode Date: May 9, 2026

Shannon Sharpe and Chad "Ochocinco" Johnson bring you the Best of NFL on Nightcap. The guys go off on everyone who doubted them about AJ Brown landing with the Patriots, and close it out by addressing Anthony Richardson's delusion that a west coast system is going to be the thing that saves his NFL career. Download the PrizePicks app today and use code SHANNON to get $50 in lineups after you play your first $5 lineup! https://prizepicks.onelink.me/LME0/NIGHTCAP   0:00 - Steelers mad with Cowboys over draft trade21:56 - What's next for Anthony Richardson?36:18 - Ocho was always right about A.J. Brown  (Timestamps may vary based on advertisements.) #ClubSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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Game on the I Heart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. All right. Now we head to the NFL. Joe, your Cowboys, reportedly screwed the Steelers last night. Let's take a listen to the report that Chris Harris from the Fort Worth Star Telegraph, this is what he said. Pittsburgh is pissed about this.

They feel like Dallas duped them. They, especially with the draft being in Pittsburgh, they felt embarrassed on a national stage. So those are wild development that happened in the war room not only in Dallas last night, but also in Pittsburgh and in Philadelphia. So the Cowboys are sitting there on the clock at pick 20. They were planning on taking Malachi Lawrence right there, but they did entering that pick. They wanted to trade back.

They had been tipped off somehow that Mackay Lemon was going to be the pick for the Pittsburgh Steelers, the USC wide receiver. There's a lot of connections with that new Pittsburgh staff. Remember Mike McCarthy is a new head coach there. He hired a lot of, you know, know, assistant coaches and, uh, um, executives and scouts and, and, you know, people behind the scenes that were in Dallas just a couple of years ago. So it could have been as simple as someone in the Dallas war room just shooting a text to somebody in the Pittsburgh war room being like, hey, who are you're all taking here? And then thinking, all the cowboys are taking defense. You know, this is just two guys, you know, two girls talking right here. It's like, oh, we're taking

McKay Lemon, you know, and the Cowboys call Philadelphia. Cowboys call Philadelphia. They're like, hey, the Steelers are going to take McKay Lemon. We know you want a receiver. Come up here. Do this deal with us and give us two fourth round picks. And they did the deal. And Pittsburgh is pissed. Multiple sources have told me this morning. Damn. I love that.

Yeah. I love the Cowboys being petty and. Yes. It worked out great for them. This isn't a Boy Scout troop, man. We're trying to win a championship. Who cares if the Steelers are pissed off? There's clips out there of Mackay Lemon being on the phone with the Pittsburgh Steelers.

And then him being like, hey, why is Philadelphia calling? And his agents running in the room. Philly just traded for you. It's going to be Philly. And he has to have. hang up on the Steelers and answer the Eagles phone call and take that and he's drafted at the 20th overall pick. Hey.

Hey, that's how business work. Hello. Ain't it? That's why they, Joe, that's why they call it the war room. Yeah. All it, hey, listen, when it's time for war, ain't no love and that. You can't, I don't like, I'm trying to. I give you a prime example.

I know y'all don't remember this story, but I do. Y'all do realize that somebody stole the secrets to Coca-Cola formula. Try to sell it to Pepsi. Guess what Pepsi did? What did they do? Told Coca-Cola got the FBI involved and got their ass arrested. Why? First of all, I don't blame the Cowboys.

But why would somebody in Pittsburgh ever divulged that information? Why would you do that? Right. Also, if I meant, if you said it's the war room, that means I met war. With every other, all 31 other teams, I met war. Why would I divulge any information? about who, what we're potentially going to do. Hey, you know how this bend this goes, right?

It ain't fair. It never has been. If we have an opportunity to get one up on another team. Yes, I don't got no problem with it. I have no problem whatsoever. Oh, okay. My problem is with the Steelers. Right.

And they thought they could trust someone. I ain't got no friends. Right. Ocho, you go to another team. You go to the Patriots. Yes, sir. Man, Ocho, what y'all do? What y'all looking like out there?

Man, what they got you playing at? Ah, man, I don't even know if I'm going to play this week. That's what I'm saying. Right. Right. Anything that I say, they're going to go back and tell the D.C. Or they're going to tell the office. Man, this is what Ocho tell me they're doing.

You're dumb dumb. Shit, hey, hey, you know, the Cowboys, the Cowboys got two picks off of that, though, didn't it? Yeah. Didn't they get two picks off of that? Yes. From Philly moving up? Yes.

Yeah. Plus, you got to realize Dallas and Philly, this is not the first time. They did this with Michael and Devante. Philly wanted Devonte Smith. Dallas had to pick. They's like, okay, we'll trade back. Just don't take parsons. Okay, no, we want Devontade Smith.

They agree. Yes. I don't know what Pittsburgh, I don't know what Pittsburgh was thinking in this situation. I don't. I don't know why. Why would that guy divulves that information, Ocho, Joe, Joe? Why? He felt comfortable, aunt.

He had to feel comfortable talking, talking to them boys, but. Hey, it's a dirty business. Hey, Uncle Joe, it always has been not only with the players, but obviously those that wear those jackets and those ties. It's still a dirty business. You know, we saw this thing in baseball. Who, who that's, what, we saw the Houston Rockets, Houston Rockets, the Houston, the Astros was stealing sign.

They're banging on the drums You saw the card Somebody had all that Their portfolio The information The analytics and all that Yes absolutely Yeah

Hey we got here Hey them cowboy Got some good pickups though didn't it I love to Caleb Down How do you tell you how How Caleb Down slipped us like that It seemed like somebody Saying he had some knee issues

Is that correct I mean from what I've been here Yeah they were talking about how he's like one of the, if not the best prospect in the draft. Yeah, he up there. He went up. He went up. Hey, he's a great pick.

That's one of those picks you really, you really can't miss. And y'all got, y'all got another edge. Melikai, another edge. Melikai, Lauren. Nah, uh, Jayshan, Jshan Barham. I think it edge rushing. Like a d'clock. When they draft him, did they?

Okay. Uh, yep, third round. And the third round. Hold on, didn't they get Rob Regas from Texas Tech? He was the Bronco. He was the, what you call him? Outstanding defensive player this year, the linebacker from Texas Tech.

Isn't he going to Dallas? No, he's going to Miami. He's going to Miami. He's going to Miami. He reminds you of, Ocho? Who was that? Zach Thomas. Kiko Long.

Zach? You remember Zach Thomas? He were number 10. He was number 10 at Texas Tech, right? Number 10? Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. He was right. He was right with the Texas Tech, too, didn't he?

I think so, yeah. What is Zach Thomas? I think Zach Thomas the linebacker. Yeah, Zach Martin went to know the name. Mm-hmm.

A matter of fact, matter of fact, when I think about the draft and the first three rounds and I think about giving team grades based on what they've done so far with the first three rounds,

the goddamn cowboys get an A. Goddamn Philadelphia, they get a goddamn A. I don't know what, a Harry Roseman. I don't, is he, he just, He just made for this stuff, huh?

He just made for this stuff. Whether it's a draft, whether it's off-season acquisitions, whether it's playing players early, you know, a little early than you're supposed to. You see you trade they made? Everything he does, he always does it right. Is he trade they made? What trade they made?

Yes. They got Grinner, who was opposite of Anderson. I talked about it last hour. I said, oh, Cho. I've been hearing that he was on the market. Guess what? They trade for him, four years, 100 million. Boom, done deal.

Now we got another rep, a pass Russia. Damn. Hey, hey, so, so, so, so, uh, the receiver, he for sure up out of that. AJ, he for sure out of there. Yeah. Yeah, yeah. June, June. He'd be over there.

He'll be over there in, uh, in Boston. He'll be over there in Boston. Pats. He'll be happy. I mean, look, it happens sometimes. Sometimes you have irreconcilable differences and sometimes we can part amicably. Mm-hmm. Yeah.

It happens. A, a, a, a, a chat. I'm, I'm curious to chat. what they think about the draft as far as the teams, what grades would you give some of the, what grade would you give your team, your favorite team on how they've done so far in the draft?

Hey, Bengals, I mean, people, you know, people to laugh. What, what we've done defensively on? Y'all got better, Ocho. Hey, I mean, listen, I can't say we got better. I know we got some hell of a pieces. Can I say that? Am I, can I say that on?

Jared Allen. We got sexy dexy. A young bull, young boy from Texas in him? Yeah. Joe, man, Cassius, Cassius how? He liked that? Now, I'm just looking at what I'm seeing on film, you know, based on the highlights. Twitchy, aggressive.

Hey, hey, he nice, and he got a little dog in him. He got there talking trash. Most of the time, you don't see that too much, as straight from the defense alignment. Hey, hey, we're going to be nice. If we get Shamar Stewart to come out this year, and show the progress and improvement. He was the first round pick last year.

He didn't do much last year, but we get him coming along this year, man. Hey, Miles Murphy, I like it. Now, we improve defensively. It's one thing to have names, but it's another thing when the goddamn bullet's flying, are you going to shore up on Sundays when they count? Hey, hey, what your Ravens and your Broncos do?

They get better? They took an offensive lineman. I think both teams took off. No, I'm trying to think, what did the Broncos take? Hell, I don't even know. The Ravens took, I know the Ravens took the title, the offensive lineman from Penn State. And they took defense, I think they took defense in the second round.

I see, hey. Early pick in the second round. I see them Browns got them some receivers and offensive tackles, didn't they man? Yeah, I told her to they need receivers. They need some receivers. Shee. Oh, Joe, what are your thoughts on the Steelers calling Malacow, Washington, when they weren't even on the clock?

No. Lemons. I was watching. What the hell I get watched? Limit. Malachi. Mackay. Mackay, not Malachi. Mackay. Malachi went to the Cowboys. Yeah. Jake Rosenberg said, clubs are not on the, clubs that are not on the clock may have discussions

with representative of one or more draft eligible players not yet selected or discussion with players themselves regarding the players' interest in playing in the league, playing for a particular club or type of club. players help or no other non-financial matters so long as these discussions do not interfere with discussions between player and clubs that is on the clock. So I don't know why, I don't know why, Steele, we're going to have it. So, Steele, you're not supposed to even talk. So guess what?

So they, they, they in the wrong. Look, you can have a discussion. You can talk to the representative or you can talk to the players, Ash. Right. It says you may have discussion with the representative of one or more draft eligible players, not yet selected, or in discussion or discussion with the player themselves. So theoretically, since they weren't on the clock,

they shouldn't have to have a conversation. Yeah. Right. You're not supposed to be able to do that, though. So, yeah, I got no, hey, so good, you're supposed to lose. You could talk to the, you could talk to the agent, but you're not supposed to be having a conversation with said player. With the player, with the player.

So, I don't know why you mad. What lowdown dirty deed deserves another? Hold on. What player, what player are the receivers? Are the Steelers mad at? The Steelers was on the phone with McCall Lemon when they weren't on the clock. They made a cowboys. So Dallas does a deal with Philly.

Philly land a jet. That's how he ended up over there. Okay, okay, okay, okay. You're supposed to be able to, you could talk to his representative, but you're not supposed to be on the clock with the player unless you're on the clock. He wasn't on the, Steelers weren't on the clock. Because if they were on the clock, guess what? It wasn't nothing feel it could do.

Right. But since they weren't on the clock, Dallas, say, hey, you know what? We ain't selected it. So let us go ahead and pick up a couple extra draft picks that might help us out down the road. Hello. And McCaill Lemon, boy, he upset too. Why you say that? Yo, he upset.

He felt he was one of the better players in the draft and should have been going a little earlier than with Diego. he got a little chip on the shoulder. You got a little chip on the shoulder. Obviously, you know, there were rumblings and talk about the way he does his interviews and his mannerisms, the way he conducts himself when talking, but that's just him.

That just him. He's not Peyton Manning. He's not Tom Brady. They just don't like the way it comes off the way he does his interviews. But, hey, this man hit a play football. He's here to play football. You know, how he conducts themselves when the camera and the mic is in front of him, that has nothing to do with what he does on the goddamn field. But he was pissed off.

And you can tell. You can tell. So I hope you go out there and do it. You know what thing. It's reported that the Eagles were trying to get in touch with Lemon. But he's on the fall with the Steelers. Because you know if this draft and you're on the phone, Ocho, what's the likelihood of you clicking over?

Because you're already on the phone with the NFL team. So whoever's calling is not nearly as important as who you're on the phone with. Right, right, right. Not even close. So they were like, well, damn, we try to call on board. This is the number he gave us. Because, you know, you got to give them a number, Ocho, where you're going to be to ask you for your number. Where are you going to be in Miami?

You're going to be in Oregon. You're going to be here. You're going to be there. What's the best number? Is there a second number? Nah, this is all the number I got. Yeah. So they try to get in touch with it.

They're like, well, damn. He clicked over. Hey, congratulations, Mackay. We just selected you. Huh? I was talking to the scene. It's a dirty game. Talking to them about what?

day it on the clock Hey Hey boy That's a hell of a feeling though The draft That's a That's something you'll never forget Bro

That's something you'll never forget It's a hell of a feeling Yeah it's nerve wracking Hell if you didn't have anxiety You probably got it that day You feel me? Yes You know what I tell you

Ocho Guys need to understand It's not Ha ha It's where you go That's the most important thing. We've seen guys go high, go to the wrong situation. We've seen guys go to the right situation.

Tom Brady and flourished. Went to the sixth round. Yeah. Maybe somebody else, hey, he gets cut. They kept four quarterbacks in New England. That's unheard of. Four active quarterbacks on the roster. Coach Belichick saw something. He was so convinced that this guy had something, I'm saying, you know what? Hey, just do scouts team stuff and don't even worry about it. Yeah. Yeah.

But, you know, that's not the way to play is thinking about it too long. You know, everybody wants to go early. You're right. Obviously, money, money plays a huge factor in wanting to go early. But the money so much, it's so different now as opposed to when we were playing and when we got drafted, hey, you can go in the goddamn third round and still be sitting damn that world pretty. Hey, second round of getting first round of money, not, I don't you?

Well, I mean, compared to what first rounders normally get? You do realize, I think all first rounders contracts are guaranteed. Mm-hmm. That's crazy. The running back got, he got the most guaranteed money ever. 50. To my love. 50.

Yeah. Yeah. Hey, what about? I see why his parents were doing this all night. Yeah, they should. Hey, hey, hey, what about the kid who we had on here, Avion Terrell? he got drafted by the Falcons. By the Falcons,

he was playing with his brother. Oh, man, that's so hard. Hey, boy, that's so, hey, that's so dope, Joe, that's crazy. Oh, man. Hey, Unk, has there ever been a tandem of brothers that actually played together on the same team at the same position?

Not that I know of. Damn. I can't think anything up on top of my head. Hey, and they both from, they both from here. Yeah, they were the Wesley. Yeah. Damn. Hey, can you imagine that?

AJ Terrell at once on one. side and his brother on another side. That's, that's crazy. I wouldn't, see, you could do that if you're on the defensive side. I ain't, I wouldn't trying to play with my brother. He's a ball hog. They throw it that ninja the ball, man. Man, I got drafted.

He had just come out and leading the league. He just come out to lead the league and catches. Damn. First team all pro. 92, 93. He went back to back over 100. Nah. Woof.

Damn. Hey, what kind of advice he would give you, when you were going through your process? Oh, yeah. Ocho. They did. A bit of few. Yeah.

Shaquille and Shaquine Griffin for the Seahawks played. Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah. Number one was the linebacker, the other was a DB. Yeah. Jason and Devin McCordy played with the Patriots. Oh, no, I'm saying they, no, they, no, they, okay, okay. Are you right? I'm just saying in the draft, I mean, driving to the same.

Oh, no, no, no, no, not draft. They ended up playing together. I mean, actually one player, your brother already being at, do you actually get drafted at the same team? Your brother all? Not at the top of my head, Ocho. Not at the top of my head. And Derek and T.J. White both played with the Steelers.

But I think Derek ended up who he was drafted by the charges, wasn't he? Yeah, Shaquille and Shaquille was drafted. They both got drafted to the same team. One was the first round pick, and I think the other was a second round pick. They both got drafted in Seattle? Yeah. I remember that. Yeah, that's dope.

And that's, that got to be the best. Oh, what about what you call them, Joe? What about, uh, uh, Cam and Casey Hayward? Both of them in Pittsburgh. Or he might not be, was he drafted? What, what, what, what the little brother drafted? Hmm. Connor, Connor.

Hey, that's dope, man. Was he drafted to the Steelers or we were the free agent? I mean, I mean, to be from here, though. Yeah. And playing for the foul. Bro, that's. Yeah. He was drafted.

Uh, uh, Heywood. Connor and Cam Hayward. Damn. Hmm? Yeah, obviously. I mean, you talk, even if you, you probably got a handful of instances,

Ocho. If you go back and study the NFL, maybe you got a handful of history. Right. Instances in which guys have gotten drafted. Brothers have gotten drafted. Maybe they played at a later date and time, but to be drafted. Right.

Man, that's unbelievable. That's dope. as as as as parents they got to be one of the greatest feelings in the word one of the greatest feelings i mean obviously what with uh donna kelsey what she was able to do oh yeah i mean terrell terrell's parents i mean the the watt family the manning family that that has to be one of the greatest feelings man the barly oh yeah yeah ronde and tiki yeah that's dope pouncy Sonoras and Sanis and Santana Moss trying to think, hey, the list goes on.

Yeah, that's dope. But you know what, Ocho? What happened? I mean, they got some very, very touching, heartwarming stories. But I only know one set of brothers they got these. There you go.

Hey, hey, hey, you right by that. Hey, I like that. I like that. Hold on, hold on, hold on. Uh-oh. Uh-oh. Uh-oh. Uh-oh.

Uh-oh. Here he goes. He go. Hey, hey, Charlie got a goal one too. Nah, nah, nah, hey, listen, I'm the only one with a 14-carat gold bus. You hear me? Hon Joe? Hey, Chad.

Hey, hey, hey, hey, only one with a 14-k, hey, wait till I get my arm. Hey, it look like me, huh, Joe? Yeah, it looks like you, bro. Hey, they got a little knot up there on your don't. No, you got that little knot up there. Uh-huh. See, you should, hey, you should have, you should have been working with you. You should have been working with Chauncey.

Got Chauncey to be playing football. Nah, Chonsie or Hooper, man. Chantzzi don't, he don't like, he don't like football. He don't like that contact. Hey, Joe, hey, Joe, you're talking about playing me. My brother. Who is your brother? No, whoop your brother's ass.

Hey, hey. Don't bring your brother in this mess. Hold on, hold on, Joe. Both of my brothers, my brother, Choncy, my brother Sam, I promise you. Dad, Dad. Line it up here. Line it up. Line it up.

No, you think you're slick. You ain't, you ain't getting away from me. You're going to deal with me, boy. You're going to deal with me, boy. You're going to deal with me. I'll whip their ass too. Hey, but, hey, Joe, you, why this ain't the NBA, Joe? Well, we play streetball, Joe.

I grew up playing street. What are you talking about? I grew up playing that. Okay. Yeah. Okay, Joe. Hey, hey, all right. I'm Luke Wilson.

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Anthony Richardson is reportedly looking for an extension of the McVeigh-Shanna-Lafloor tree which to learn from. This comes in progress. Malik Willis showed under Matt LaFleur in Green Bay this past season. It led to a three-year, $67.5 million contract with the Dolphins. Injuries limited Richardson to 17 appearances. And a performance when he did play left a lot to be desired. He has thrown for 2,400 yards, 11 touchdowns, 13 interception,

while completing about 50% of his passes. Ocho, could it West Coast system help Richardson revive his career similar to Willis? I think any system would really help him if he lock in. It's not about the system he's in It's about you locking in It's about you taking what you do serious Not rapping, not all the side quests Not all your hobbies that you focused in

Being the first one in and being the last one out It had nothing to do with the system It's you You know That's all that come down to That's all the work you put in The results show up on Sundays Yeah

When you don't put the work in, Joe, the results show up that you ain't put the work in. It shows up on Sundays. Absolutely. Don't get mad at the results you didn't get for the work you didn't put in. There you go. That's all that come down to. But, Ocho, you remember when we were talking about this,

let that man have other things. He ain't got to be there all day. Now, why they had in the chat, though, Ocho, when you was I was on this thing in the very beginning? Where y'all had to chat now? That's the one position. Let him do what he want to do. Let him, if he gets him,

work done. Ocho and I just having to play the game at a very, very high level, Joe. Yeah. Extremely high level. You play at a high level. I tried to tell him, if all you do is what the coaches

ask you do, you'll never be great. No, son. No, son. But, oh, your big mouth, you and Ocho don't know everything. I said, okay. I said, but at that position, it's all encompassing.

Hey. But I want to know, chat, where are y'all? at now that y'all criticize Ocho and I, man, you don't know. I said, it's a bad look that he left the game because he was tired. It's a bad look. I said they had a team. Think about it, Ocho.

They had a team damn meeting about a rookie quarterback. Yeah. I've never heard in my 14 years of playing. Yes. In my years of covering something of this magnitude. But the chat, people that's never played, want to tell guys that's been in a locker room, that's been leaders in the rock locker room and what it takes to be great but now they're no more than us but okay i let y'all have it now where y'all at ain't heard not one person yeah it's different joe

especially and people say oh joe man all sharp sharp is man up talk too much but you never said i didn't know what i was talking about hello hello but them sharp boys they show talk a lot when you're heard them say they don't know what the hell they're talking about that's the one position, you can't take no, you can't cut no corners, Joe. A QB. You, man, you can't cut no corners. You can't, you can't, you got to be, you got to be invested. I'm talking about 24-7.

On the field, off the field, in the film room. Hey, and that's why they have no corners. How great do you want to be at it, though? That's what it comes down to. Yeah. How great do you want to be at it? Yeah. Because you're going to be really good and do it half-ass.

Yeah. The same thing, when we said, I was on, what you call him, when I was undisputed and I was talking about Kyle of Murray,

man, let that man have a life. I said, do you understand what it takes to play that position? And y'all, I said,

let this sink in for just a second. They put in his contract that he would spend X amount of hours away from the facility watching game tape. Do you understand what?

what that means. Okay. Now I'm going to let y'all have it. I'm going to let y'all have it. Y'all know. Y'all right. Y'all right. You can do it both.

You can play cod and all your time and you're off time and you know, hey, you can do all what you want to do. No. But while you moving up the ranks and while you moving up the ranks as a card player in the USA or the world, you drop in the NFL ranks as a quarterback. Yeah. Because it's somebody working. Trying to catch you.

Oh, yeah. And if you ain't working, you don't get exposed on Sundays. Either way. Either way. That's how I go. That's the one position you can't hide on. No, hell. No, hell no, you can't hide it.

One position you can't hide it, Joe. Hide everybody else. Yeah, you can hide everybody else. I can slide one way or another. I can roll coverages. Yeah. I can blunt you. I can stack you.

I can push you in motion. Yeah. The one position I can't plight as the quarterback because guess what? He got the ball. Every damn time. Every time. And hell, it ain't in, and to piggyback again off what you said at the beginning

and then put him in a new system, well, hell, young bull came from the Giants and did extremely well in the system that you just had yourself with the same players. Until he got hurt. Yeah. Oh, until you're making sense. Boy, stop. Damn. Same system.

Same receivers. They don't like that. I mean, I'm, I'm just being honest. You're being truthful. Yeah. When we say this, you know, we time me, we buck dancing. I just, I want to, listen. I ain't, I ain't one of them.

So, we different. We don't get the chances that they do. So don't help the chances up that you do get. Yeah. Once you get there, it's easier to get there and stay that it is to get out and try to get back in. Bro, you see the money that they give it and the cap just going up. Bro, make you $400, $400,000. and then say kick rocks.

I'm going to go smoke weed. I'm going to play card. I'm going to play whatever else. Whatever I don't know the video. I just know call the dude. After you get your money, though. Yes. After you get your money.

Yes. Absolutely. That's all I'm saying, guys. I want guys to get all that money because it's there for you to get it. But don't, bro, don't let these people gas you up, talk about you can do other things. No, professional sports is a full-time job. A quarterback. just like the NFL.

NFL used to be a seasonal job. It ain't no more. It ain't no more. Because guess what? Oh, so there used to be times. We didn't talk about football in May. The draft happened in April. You took a break.

You didn't talk about in June. You didn't talk about July. You didn't talk about the guys went back to training camp. Now they're covering the draft. Now, excuse me, now they cover the combine, balls to the wall. Now they're talking about OTAs. Now they're talking about who reporting and when they're reporting. It's different now.

And it used to be teams would give you an opportunity. They would wait for you to develop. They ain't waiting no more, Joe. Hell no. No. They ain't waiting. They got too much money tied up. They say, hell no, we'll go get something else.

They very impatient. It's a good thing. It's a gift and a curse. It's a gift and a curse, though. because now the impatience when it comes to owners and wanting a satisfaction of having success right away just by getting a high drag pick and giving them a lot of money,

that's not the way things work. Now, that might be the way things work in business. Yes. Where you throw money at business and it gets you what you want, it don't work that way with young quarterbacks. You got to give them time to develop. There's a learning curve, on.

Oh, Joe, you see that in business. If something not going on world, what they do? They'll find a CEO and get another one. Mm-hmm. Yeah. He ain't doing it. They'll find another one. And they look at the quarterback as a CEO.

Yes. But so they get his ass up out there and get another one. Mm-hmm. Hey, but look. How many quarterbacks and came into the league as a rookie and really been effective? Like really. Right away? Huh?

Yeah. Shit. Who. I'm talking about as a rookie. You got like RG3. Your RG3 had a good year. When you look at being effective, so you say it like being effective, have good years. Yeah, had a good year.

It had to the playoffs. Had it had to where you made the playoffs. And let's say you was, you know, you had a decent playoffs. Shoot. RG3, Jane Daniels. Jane Daniels, Ceddy Strav is first year. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. CJ was nice.

Our first year was nice. CJ, yeah. Hell, Michael Vic had to sit and wait. Carson had to sit and wait. Brady set in wait Yeah Payton didn't sit and wait But Peyton said I'm waiting

I just I root for somebody To throw 27 interceptions So I can get off the list Because I got the most interceptions That the rookies ever rookie Payton said I want somebody to break my record They're breaking all the rest of them But hey Joe Payton was horrible

Boy as a rookie guy That came in Oh that's right, Dak Oh yeah Because he took Tony Romo spot out of dumb Yeah Yeah Yep.

Yeah. So that big, but it's hard, Joe, it is hard for that guy to come in and he got to be, and be the leader of a team, a first year,

a rookie, it's tough. Hey, is it tough because of the game, the NFL and college, the NFL is a lot faster than college. Like your processing has to speed up. Way faster, Joe.

Yeah. Way faster. I mean, obviously, at that point, it becomes a mind game. You know, it's a mental game. I know it's a physical sport.

They have the game with 90% mental, 90% mental, 10% physical. Absolutely. You have to know what everybody else is doing. You have to know what everybody else is doing. And then when it comes to being able to read and process the defense, not only the route scheme, the combination that you have going on, but not only what the defense is doing before they even do it. So you know exactly where you want to go at the ball.

So you're able to think, you're able to think and read and react fast. Yeah. Yeah. I mean, you think about Tom Brady and you think about Payton Manning, some of the greatest quarterback that there are, and they're not physically imposing, you know? They're not the fastest, you know?

They're not the most athletic. But they beat you here every time, Joe. They beat you here every time. Processed. That's their edge. That's their middle edge. Oh, Joe, you know, Drew Reeves got bitched. He was the reason that they got to the number one pick.

For real? Yeah, no more pick. Remember that? They got Eli. Oh, yeah. He said, I'm not going. Yeah. First of all, he got bitch for a Doug Flutie.

I don't know that. I ain't know that. Yes. That's how they ended up. They had the number one pick. They ended up trading it and getting Phillip Rivers. Right. Okay.

Yeah. But also, Joe, you understand. You're dealing with guys that's been in the league eight, nine, 10, 11 years. you're asking a guy to come in and be the leader. Guys want you to prove it in this league. Before you lead them, they need to see you to do it. They want to make sure that you, you, that guy.

Yeah. You show them you the guy and they'll follow you forever. Damn. Yeah. Because they watch it. They watch it. They see who the first end. Your quarterback, you can't be the first end.

You can't be the last end to first to leave. You got to be first and last. First end, last. to leave. No question. Not last first. Joe, Joe, you got to. You got to. No. You got to warn it, boy. You got to. And you got to want it more than somebody wants it for you.

Yeah. Yeah. Hey, hey, I might have been a clown and they might have called me all they wanted to, Joe. But boy, I wanted it, Joe. You were locked in? I would like, Joe. I ain't had no choice, Joe. I talked to my shit. Yeah. I talked to my trash. the week. Purposely, I'm going to give your bulletin' board material.

This is what's going to happen. And I'm going to go in practice. And I'm going to go do exactly what I said I'm going to do. And ain't none you could do to stop it. Nothing. I don't care. I don't care. How many people you put on me?

Well, you're going to get this work. Yeah. Every week. Every week was a challenge. It was fun. And I just turned the fun in entertainment. But I had to put the work in, Joe. I had to study.

And they'll see it. once they see that you're serious about this? Yeah. The work that you, the way you practice, the way you meet, the way you study, the way you're prepared. That's why Joe, the way, the way Uncle just explained it is why they never told me to stop what I was doing. Because everything Uncle just said, that's what Marvin and all them, they got to see that part. Yeah. The way I practiced, the way I studied.

I was sharp. I was sharp. See, the rest of the world saw the finished product. They saw the fun. Yeah. They're seeing the trash talking. They're not seeing all the work I'm putting in to be able to pull that shit off. Absolutely.

Nah. That's it. And that's why coaches let him do what he did. That's why I didn't have a problem with my coaches because they know. They knew how much time I put in to study. They knew how much effort I put in in the off-season and during the season to keep my body right. They didn't have to worry about anything. But guess who else was watching?

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And, you know, the fact that I said when I do, said most of the people don't believe me but when it happened they were like oh my goodness oh Joe you was right so a small example of me knowing what I'm talking about but nobody really paying attention in God damn in February I told you what hey um

where did I say and I'm sure we got the video evidence that we can pull back and we can use this proof when did I say AJ Brown was going when they're going to trade him what team I say we're going to? Yeah two months ago Joe I told him I've been telling him since what

October I said oh he about it there Oh, yeah, he got what you talking about. You all you try to do, man, this is what I don't like about the put. This is what I don't like about, um, because he thinks he know everything. Come on, now. Now, I ain't not one person, because we can go back and pull it because we still got the comments where Ocho and I was talking about, because we got it. And we can pull the comments. Mm-hmm.

You don't know what you talking about. All you do is think you know everything. You don't know everything. I say, man, you all right, you all right, you don't know everything. They win in the ball. They winning games. Oh, my thing went out. It came back.

My bad. So they trade. No, Joe. It's going to be a post June 1st. Yeah, post June 1st. But Joe, listen, I was saying this two, three months ago, right? Football season was over. They were having discussion and talks about them going.

I said the first thing I said was, listen, young bull want to get up out of there. If you're acting, why you end season. And then I'm thinking, what place would make sense for AJ Brown to go for him to still be able to flourish? Hello, go back with your coach. You was wetting goddamn tennis. I mean. Correct. With in Tennessee with Coach Rable

Yeah So I said right away I say yeah he's going to the Patriots I mean it's it's common sense At that point You know And this is damn there two three months ago Everybody talked about

Man shut up He don't want to go nowhere What do you talk about? Thank you I don't think y'all Y'all don't understand But guess what don't you But you don't they go say

Oh everybody do he's going to get traded You are alive No you didn't You're alive Because all y'all Don't come now Oh man you No no no no no no

No we want y'all Just like y'all, when Ocho and I wrong and y'all won't Ocho and I admit that we was wrong, we got it wrong, I need y'all to do the same thing. I want you to run it with the same passion, with the same conviction that y'all say, Unc and Ocho don't know what the hell they're talking about. Ain't know. A.J. say he wasn't going to go anywhere. They say they won't go trade him. Run it with the same passion. Hey, I got all the Trees saved, too.

Yeah. I'm going to go back and pull them. When it actually happened after June 1st, we're going to go back and we're going to pull about 15 of them. So you better go take them down because we like the job because we use all all tweets against you. Yeah.

Because y'all just knew oh, man, he ain't say that. He said it didn't want to go to work. They said it wasn't going to trade it. Okay. Eagle fans, where y'all at? I know we got some Eagle fans. Yeah.

I know we got some Eagle fans because I told you during the season they're going to trade it. I said he wants to get out there. And you know what? It's best for the, it'll be a best thing. Sometimes when you have irrelia, reconcilable differences, let's go ahead and break this thing up amicably.

Tell you what y'all wanted to hear. Oh, you just trying to, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, I want y'all what y'all normally do when Ocho and I are wrong, oh, man, just admit you was wrong. Now, I want the Eagle fan. Now come on with it. Yeah. And the funny thing. Come on with it.

It's going to be, it's going to be a good thing. It's going to be a good thing. Let me give me a piece of candy, you know, a. Like the old people say, Joe, let me get a piece of a piece of it. so hard candy. Hey, my grandma canceled candy. Help her. Hold on.

The man catch a touchdown in the Super Bowl. He's a second team all pro. He's a Pro Bowl player. He led the team and received it and yards. I don't know where else you can get. And he was unhappy. You remember

two years ago, he on the sideline reading the book. The key from blow whatever you got to do to keep you calm. It got so bad, they had a meeting. The owner and AJ had a meeting. He said, I understand your frustration. Probably what's up like, I understand your frustration, but can you not be so public?

And I said, I don't have a problem because I'm firm believer. You don't accept anything in a win you wouldn't have a loss. I said, but you got to keep it behind the scenes because people are going to view you as selfish. you're winning you got to be at one point

you had the best record in the NLC I say you're winning I say people are going to look at you as being selfish because they're going to look at it like no you just want your stats

and then if you drop a pass or something happens people are going to become overly critical of you I'm just trying to I ain't telling what somebody told me

Ocho and I'm speaking from I got 14 years Ocho got 11 so that's 24 years 25 years of NFL experience, being in the locker room and seeing how things work. Yeah. That's all. No, no, don't tell me.

Unc never meant nothing. I need you to admit. Don't talk. This ain't about it. Now, when Uck wrong again, Uncle in me, I tell you what, if sexy, Dexy go out there and ball out, I'm saying, you know what, oh, sure that was a good trade. You were right. Well, hold on, hold on.

It was a good trade. I'm telling it's going to be good trade. Because any time we talk about football, and I say something ahead of time, it's always right. It's always right. I'm rarely wrong when I say this thing. Since you've been talking about your bingles, your bingles ain't been to the playoffs since.

Okay, that's just one thing. That's just one thing. Hey, now, hold on, hold on that. Don't you do that? Don't, hey, brother cowboy, don't you do that down there? That's what you're not going to do. Because I turn me and say faith. I'm just saying.

We talk about us not being to the playoffs. I mean, we're in the same goddamn boat, now, you know? Hey, if I'm rose, then you jack. Now, don't act like that. Speaking of sexy Dexter, Tony Pauline speaks on Dexter Lawrence trade. There is concern that while Lawrence has shown himself to be a great player at time,

he's not a very hard worker Monday through Saturday. Part of the reason he wanted to be traded away from John Harbaugh. Hey, you don't want that out there about you. They said John Harbaugh does work, Ojo. Pads, Pads, Pats, but I don't get. This is what I don't get. And I think they're talking about Zay Flowers. He said that Coach Harbaugh had them

and so forth and so on. Yeah. Oh, Cho, if that's what you came into the league as, that's what you know, how'd that a problem? That's all you know. Right. It's not like you've been somewhere else. You've been at the 49ers.

And they only get, they only in pads like on Thursday for maybe like 10, 15 minutes. Right. If you came from that system and went to this system, I get it. Right. But if that's all you know, when I played with Dan Reeves, we had the pads on, that's all I knew. So if I go somewhere else, they got pads on, I'm good, I'm Gucci,

because that's what I'm doing. You know, that's probably word or mouth too, you know, Zayflowers, hearing other players that's on other teams, the way they practice, them not having their pads on as often, especially when you get laid on into the season, the fact that they having pads on as much as possible

all the way up to, and I mean, in a sense, I don't understand it, where you want your players healthy, you want them light as possible, especially, you know, during the week, So they're healthy, you know, for games on Sundays. Now, during our time, during our day, I understand.

Now in today's time, having pads on in every single practice, as many practices as you can get pads on them boys, you got them on them. Oh, that's tough. Yeah. But in the West Coast system, for the most part, the West Coast used to be, that was the thing. No pads on Wednesday. You had them on for nine on seven. you had them on for 9-0-7,

it was thud it up. But then you take the pads off. Quarterback kept their pads on because they wanted to get used to throwing with their pads. Yes, sir. No problem. But everybody else, take your pads off, set them to the side. I leave mine out there because some rookie was going to grab mine,

or he better. But anyway, we'll talk about that. That'll be another show we could talk about things that you got to do as a rookie or a player just coming up. But I don't get it. Bro. You playing pads. I don't get that, oh, Joe.

Yeah, I mean, I don't know. I can't even sit here and lie because, hey, Joe, some days when we had padded practices, Joe, I have on the shelves. You know, the shelf, a little cushion you put, you put on. Yeah, yeah. They called spider pads.

Yeah, the spider pad. Yeah, spider pad. So the defense would already know, they won't go hit me no way, Joe, but they can tell when I'm not wearing my goddamn shoulder pads. I just ain't, I just ain't want that weight on me. I just ain't want to be out there moving fast as hell, moving fast as possible through practice.

You know, and I wear him on Sunday. Sometimes Marvel would say something. Sometimes he wouldn't. Yeah, but they didn't have a practice. Hey, Joe, he used to be hell, boy. Zay Flowers, I want to keep his pads on. All that damn fumbling he'd be doing. That might be what, that might, he might need to keep his damn pants on.

Mike didn't have a problem. All he said, I want to keep. want you to dress how you would dress in the game. He said if you wore pads, five pads, knee pads in the game, where am I here to practice? Yeah. That's the only, that was really the only thing that he had. That's what we said. Until them guys started coming out there with damn Tim and in house shoes or walk.

Mary Ocho, because we were talking about that another time. But I'm saying, that was the only, that was the only thing that he had. If we come out here to practice, however you play in the game, that's how I want you to, especially when we got on pads. So most of the guys to me back then They got to wear pads now, Ocho Yeah Yeah

I was like damn You go back and look Go back and look at the 90s and early 2000 Ain't nobody have no damn pants on hardly Everybody had them basically was tight They don't gutted the thigh pads The knee pads that took all the pockets out All they got them tight

Yeah Ricky Jackson was the first person I ever saw do that I say man if I ever be good enough I damn sure coming out my pants. I'm coming out mine. Hey, look, so when y'all got pads on, y'all, they're hitting? No, we had on tight.

It's just like you wear, like you wear those legs up under your game pants. That's what I put on my pants feel like. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. We don't get in the pants. We don't took all the pockets out. They just basically spandex. Spandex, yeah, that's it.

They just basically spanducks. All I had was a helmet and shoulder pads. I had no thigh pads, no hip pads, no knee pads, no mild piece. I have a helmet and I had shoulder pads and I only had two of my chin straps fast.

Yeah. I remember, hey, let me some fun days. I miss it, I ain't, I ain't gonna lie to you. I ain't gonna hold you. What you miss?

You miss the grind? Yeah, I miss the grind. I miss competing, Joe. I miss competing. I miss having a structure and discipline and having to get up for something. I need something to do. And whatever that's something is,

that gives me structure. How about go to the bank and send Uncle his money? Huh? Hey, Uncle, I told you, Uncle. Hey, break in case of emergency. If you really need that 509, I got you. That man Ben said he needed. No, he's just talking.

You know, he just talking. Hey, Joe, don't you owe me a... Oh, no, we're even. We even, we even. What? Say it again? Say it again? We're even, because we bet in every game, right? You owe me a hundred.

Atlanta won a night. So now we don't broke evening. Wee, we, we, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. I don't like the fact that I can't pay you, though, because you ain't seem to my money. My pants at home. Next time I'm home, Joe, I'm a, because I got some of my game pants, you'll see. There ain't nothing.

They just, damn, uncle, you kept your pants? I kept my game pants, got shoulder pants, got shoulder pants, everything. And I ain't, I ain't got, I ain't got, I ain't got nothing. They still got all my stuff, flip, who's the equipment guy. Yeah. He was there. He was there when I was there. They still got all my stuff boxed up.

All my shoulder pads, extra my helmets, all that stuff in the box. Oh, Joe, you ain't got no helmets today? Joe, I ain't keep nothing. Hey, Joe, let me tell you something. I don't know what's wrong with me, Joe. Hey, I swear for God, there's something wrong with me, Joe. I had, when I moved, I had a big place. I had a big place when I were playing out here in Davy.

And it really made no sense. And I got to a point where, you know what, I'm getting rid of this. I'm to about 10,000 square feet. It's no reason for me to have a house that goddamn big. I'm not playing football no more. So obviously, you know how I am when to come to financial literacy. Let's downsize a little bit. Let's get up out of here.

Let's get in something we can maneuver with and maintain the same lifestyle we had while we were playing ball. So I went small. I put shit in storage, Joe. I put stuff in storage. Joe, I let that stories there. Joe, maybe by 10, 11 years. And it got to a point where, you know what,

now I'm moved into something nice again. I ain't got something big again, you know? I wasn't bringing all that old stuff back with me and I don't left that part of life, Joe. I just let the stores go. So it's all that stuff, man. I don't never collect memorabilia, Joe. I never have.

I ain't kept no jury and I can't keep no nothing. Now, if I need it, I know I can go get it. If I want a helmet, if I want shoulder pad or anything like that, I can go, I can find my old stuff again. That's easy. I got all my stuff. I got college stuff. College?

I got my high school helmet Nah see Yeah you see you're a collector You're a collector It's just When a way A Joe When a phase of life is done

I'm I close that book Joe I close it I close it Okay Okay That's weird though I don't care

I don't care about That's weird I don't know why All the trophy Everything that I won in college Either my mom got it or my it's at my grandmother's house

and so when I got my own house my grandma told me no you can't take nothing out of here that's my trophies that my helmets they still at my grandma's house my mom got some that I went in college

my MVP trophy I gave it to my girlfriend I don't know where it's at now oh man she got one of my MVP trophies yeah hey that's damn that like hard though too Joe

You feel me? Oh, I do. I got, I got, yeah. I got clothes from when I was like five or six. See, that's too much, that's too much, aunt. That story I told about the, the white outfits that my mom dressed me and my brother like Easter. For church, for Easter? For Easter, yeah.

Yeah. Yeah. That problem was 75, 78. So damn it to 50 years ago. I still got it. Damn. Oh, yeah, I keep stuff. We do.

I get that for my grandma. I told you, my grandma had canned peaches and beans and stuff for 20 years that she tried to bring to the new place. Let me say, granted, this stuff ain't no good. She said, yeah, it is, baby. It's sealed. It ain't been open. Yeah.

Grady, this ain't the military. This ain't no vacuum. Them, what the, MRE, ready to eat meals. Yeah, that ain't what this is. Joe, you ain't got nothing? I got a little something. I got, I got a few jerseys.

I mean, I got, that's pretty much it. I got a lot of, you know, I got a lot of signed jerseys. You know what I mean? A couple basketball. Like, when you went to the All-Star game, you got people to sign stuff for you, didn't you? Nah, so, so, like, when you go to the All-Star game,

it's a section where, All the players got to sign all these balls and all sign jerse. And they give it to us. So, I mean, I went seven times. So I got, I got some nice stuff, bro. I got some basketball. I got some basketball ain't there no more. Who at?

Do you say, no, boy? Okay. I'm like to. Hey, listen, I can't tell you what every signature is. Yeah. I got some stuff. I don't know who they are. I don't know who they are now.

But I didn't get, the only thing. The only thing I hate is that I went and I didn't get, you know, all the, I mean, think about it, I had Brady, had Manning, Elway, Marino, Kelly, boom. Not one thing, same. Hey, man, I got a question. And I won an Emmy Award, Uncle Ocho,

and I ain't gonna lie to y'all. I lost it. I wonder how can I, uh, you think they'll send me another? You have to pay for it, but yeah. Well, you want, hey, you won an Emmy, Joe? Yeah, and didn't know, didn't know the significance of it. What was in? What show? I was playing here for the Hawks,

and I told my story to Fox Sports. Like, I was growing up, so my mom was in it. I think two of my uncles was in it. And we just told a story, bro. They came to my house, set up, interview me and all that. And so it was like halftime of one game.

They came back, they was like, hey, they want to present you with an Emmy at halve time. I'm like, what an Emmy? I didn't even know what the hell of Emmy was. Emmy was. I ain't going to lie to you. So listen, I go out there and get to Emmy, I come back, I put it up in my locker

at the arena. I put it up in my locker and by two, three days went by, I talked to my mama, I was like, Mom, I want an Emmy. And she was like, you want an Emmy, boy, where is that? I said, it's in my locker. She cussed me out, boy. Hey, you don't get that damn thing up out of there and send it to me, you know, people work their whole

career trying to win the Emmy. I'm like, man, I ain't know. But anyway, I had a flood here in my house when I was playing in Brooklyn. and it wasn't nobody here, so water had been running for like seven days on that, Ojo. It flooded out, so it messed up a lot of stuff. But there's one thing I couldn't find when I came back.

I'm like, damn, I couldn't find it. I don't know if somebody hit me for it or not. But that's a nice accomplishment. But they're definitely, oh, yeah, that's a standard. Yeah. We go get one, Ocho. Yeah, yeah, we definitely is. We definitely is.

That's the only thing I'm missing. I don't know why, Joe, you know, at the plan all of them, at the plan all of them years, man, and having them jerseys, having them helmets and no cleats and stuff. I don't know why I don't see the value in it no more. I don't understand. I just, it just.

Even when you was playing, you didn't see nobody. Once I was done, once I was done playing, once I was done playing, and I just let the stores go, man. You know, people, I mean, remember, dude found the stories, I just stopped paying for it. And people were hitting me on Instagram. They were he being like, hey, some dude got your storage and, you know, I'm like, man, I don't care.

Man, I don't bought a whole new place. You know, I don't start it over, you know, doing everything. And I'm not taking none of that old stuff with me. And it's funny how people see things that used to be yours and they value it more than you do. And in my mind, I mean, I don't have left that place there 15 years ago. I don't want to bring it with where I'm going now I mean

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