Nightcap - Best of NFL News Part 2: Allen Iverson CALLING out the NBA STARS for LOAD MANAGEMENT

Episode Date: April 11, 2026

Shannon Sharpe and Chad "Ochocinco" Johnson give you the Best of NBA! The Nightcap crew breaks down the hottest stories in basketball, including the real reason Giannis Antetokounmpo may be staying with the Milwaukee Bucks — and it has everything to do with his massive Nike shoe deal. Plus, Unc and Ocho react to Kevin Durant putting on an absolute ankle-breaking clinic on Dillon Brooks, and the crew revisits Joel Embiid's never-ending injury struggles as Philadelphia 76ers fans are left wondering if it is finally time to declare the Process officially over. Subscribe to Nightcap presented by PrizePicks so you don’t miss out on any new drops! Download the PrizePicks app today and use code SHANNON to get $50 in lineups after you play your first $5 lineup! Visit https://prizepicks.onelink.me/LME0/NI... 0:00 - KD makes Dillon Brooks pay for trash talk3:29 - Jayson Tatum on return to MSG after achilles injury9:31 - Allen Iverson calls out modern NBA players28:13 - Joel Embiid out indefinitely40:23 - Angel Reese traded to Atlanta Dream Timestamps may vary based on advertisements.) #ClubSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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Take a look at this clip, guys. This was nasty. Oh, he killed. Awesome. Hold on. Did y'all see how when he caught the ball, he looked left like he was going toward the pick

and he rejected real quick. Hell, Dylan Brooks didn't know what the hell were going on. That man stumbled twice. He touched Earth twice. And he just calmly knocked down the middy. Hey, man. Better watch you're talking to sometime.

Yeah. They're Slim Reaper. He ain't playing no games out there. I like to see when dudes do. But I like to see when dudes talk stuff. I like watching Dylan Brooks play in his antics, him being emotional. Yeah.

But hey, man, sometimes they don't do nothing, but turn some guys up, bro. It turns some cats up, man, to the point. Yeah, after the game, Katie said that, you know, Dylan Brooks ain't got no effect on his game. That's a lie. That man, hey, he made you going in that bag. You know, somebody go to talking to you.

It'll make you pull out what you got. Oh, yeah. And the funny thing about it, Dylan Brooks, he'd go with everybody, especially the better players when he's competing against, you know, the KDs or the LeBrons. He's going antagonize you. You're going to get in your ear a little bit, try to throw you off your rocker.

But them great players, they don't bother, that don't bother them. That might bother lesser-tier players. You don't play at that level. You think Dylan Brooks is the first guy to try to get up against the ranching? I mean, think about LeBron. He had, how he had to deal with a,

Lance Stevenson, blowing all in his ear doing all this foolishness. Yeah. These guys used to it. Cameras called Katie said, my worst season is better than your best season. Hey, it's some truth than that. Hey, it's levels to everything, Joe,

but when you're out there competing and you're a talker, Dylan Brooks has always been a talker. You ain't said none of that. You always been one that going to antagonize you. You don't get this work. I don't care what your seasons look like. Whether it's better than my, what is better than my best or not.

I'm going to talk this shit. And I think that they got, by them getting traded for one another pretty much, I think that's kind of, you know, it may be a little something there. Yeah. A little bad blood, Joe, you think? something now.

Boy, you trade for Dillon Brooks with Kevin to Wray. And as much as you talk, you ain't bothered him D. Lime with the Joe Chil. You know who to bother? Hey, D.B.

Come here. I'm talking. No, I'm talking. No, I ain't talking to you. I'm talking to him. I'm talking to safety. I'm talking to you too. You're a chunk too.

Man, look. I love it. You know, that's that's what Dillon Brooks is doing is more to get him going, himself going, that impact. Because when you're dealing with those level of guys,

that issue ain't got nothing to do with them. Right. But if they, if they end up, if they end up meeting the playoffs, it's going to be some smoke, it's going to be some smoke. Trust me. Just on the year after tearing his radicalities tenant in Madison Square Guard, Jason Tatum will make his return Thursday when he and the Celtics take on the next. Tateau said he's not exactly looking forward to it.

Tedham said, I mean, yeah, I thought about it. I'm not, like, thrilled to go back to and play there. The last time I played there, obviously, it was dramatic experience for me. Obviously, I knew at some point I would have to get over that hurdle and play there again. So it's going to have to be this Thursday, but it's not like I'm thrilled about it. But it's part of it. I've decided to come back and play, so I'm not necessarily skipping certain games. I can't play back to back right now, but I decided to come back and play.

So it's just another game on the schedule. Joe, are you concerned about those type of comments? Normally guys like, man, I was a little jittery to go back out there the first game back because I am coming back with many thought I was going to miss this regular season. But he's like, he's not looking at a specific place. Normally guys, it's not the specific place. It's like the first game.

Now, if the first game was back then, his first game back, Joe, I can see it. But now you've been playing two, three weeks. And so I'm going to get your first game. I don't think, I think he going to be all right, man. He's been playing great basketball since he's been back, especially over the past, what, maybe five or six games or so. But, yes, it's natural if you had an injury somewhere

and you get back in that environment or in that same place that he's going to think about it, Uncle Ocho. You know what I mean, playing the Madison Square Guard and thinking like, damn, last time I was here, you know, it was right here in this particular spot where I was laying at when I tore my Achilles. It's going to be in the back of his mind, but I think he's going to be just fine.

I think he's going to be just fine. He looks great from his movement and how he's been playing. He's been shooting the three ball better, getting to the rack. I don't think, I don't think, I think it'd be all right. Yeah. I think he'll be, hey, I ain't never been injured.

So it's hard for me to say what he would be thinking about. Obviously, if you had an injury and you're going back to the, place where the injury actually happened. I think it's in the back of your mind, but being a competitor, you really can't let it, really can't let it get in the way. You actually plan to perform at the highest level. Obviously, you want to go out there and do what you do.

So I don't know. Joe, Joe, you and Uncle, that y'all be better to kind of assess that. Now that he's talking about it, I was like, and it never dawned on me. Oh, Joe, in 99, I broke my collarbone in Oakland. the next time I played in Oakland I went 96 yards down in the middle of the field

scored a touchdown against the hit 2,000 for the Ravens that was my first time back there it didn't dawn on me until now yeah okay okay it didn't even dawn on me that like man this is where I broke my collarbone last time I was here it didn't cross with my mind until we started

to like he started like I told my Achilles in Madison Square Garden and I'm coming back like I said now maybe it would have been at the forefront of my mind if my first game back would have been in Oakland. But because so much time had passed,

I'm just having to go back to Oakland. Hey, I look, and I agree with you, Joe, I think the mere fact that he's been there for three weeks and he's gotten better and better and better and better, I don't think he has anything,

I mean personally, I don't think he has anything to worry about. I think that, that tendon is as strong as it's as good. But I do think, you know, considering that the Celtics are playing the Knicks, that's going to be a physical game. Okay, Ocho, you know, it's going to be a playoff game. See, them big wings that they got.

That's why the Knicks went out and got OG. That's why the Knicks went out and got Bridges because of what, to play against Tatum and Brown. So it's probably going to be probably one of the most physical games he's going to play since his return if we just keeping it 100. I mean, because it ain't but a couple games left. Everybody's still kind of jocke in for position. You know what I mean?

So it's going to be pretty intense. It is. And man, when you think about it, Joe, I didn't realize until, like, seeing like Jason Tatum's dead. Jason Tatum like 16. Man, that boy tall, man. Here I was thinking all this damn time.

He's like six, eight. Nah, that's both for like 16. That's the advantage. And that's the advantage. that they have because you can play Tatum at the four and have your five out there. Obviously, when they had poor Zingas or I, Horford, you know, they were playing at the four

and play one of those guys at the five. But they got a, I don't say, I want to say a totally different team, but they got different type of bigs now. You know, obviously, they got Vosovic, you can shoot the three, he could spread the four. Yeah. But the other kid, I can't, what's the name? Quater.

Quater. I like him. defender, rebounder, rim runner, lob threat, going to play hard, and that's what they've been missing. That's what the Celtics been missing. It's going to be a good game tomorrow. Yeah, he is.

It's going to be tough because, you know what? And you can't take anything away, you know, out of the matchup because I think the Celtics beat the Knicks during the regular season last year and damn the NICs damn their level. Yeah, they did. They didn't have a big body. Brunson.

Yeah, you don't have no answer. No matter how, think about it, no matter how big of a lead they had, Nick would just, just methodically just track him down. Yep, because even the game, Tatum got hurt. I thought he was playing great, but hell, they were still losing.

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your podcast. Alan Iris is calling out modern NBA stars for load managing. This all hit different for me. Load management, they took me to the hell for allegedly not practicing. Now they cried about players not playing games. I played every, he said, I played with every injury you can

think of to the point they had to hide my jersey to keep me from playing true story now we're talking about the game not practice not practice we're talking about the game don't cry now what the baby's going to do hey look i i understand what a i's coming from hey look you're talking to a guy who was iron man in the NBA for over a decade on the ocho like i thoroughly enjoy what i what i was doing and i thoroughly enjoyed the game and i never wanted to cheat the game But I think we do have to take into consideration the way the game is being played today, meaning it's a lot faster. The tempo is more upbeat, more up, more, more pace.

And, you know, back when AI and T. Magnum was playing, the game wasn't played as fast, man. You know what I mean? Yeah, those dudes average 30 plus a night. But hell, they was the only one on their team who was doing that. You won't put that up about 85, 90 points, you know, 95 points a night. It's just totally different, man. These guys play as such a helter-skelter pace, and, you know, it's starting to hurt our stars, as we can see.

A lot of our... Look, look, man, can't nobody even make the 65-game threshold to even be, you know, in the conversation for any of these awards. You know what I mean? So it says a lot. I think the pace of the game has really, really... Has been upgraded to the point to where it's taking a load on a lot of these cats. So, Joe, what do you think?

You think the answer is obviously fixing the issue is taking some of the games out because the pace is a little bit more upbeat now? No, because they ain't going to get more money out. No, no, yeah. Because you know you play less games. You get less money, Joe? Yeah, I mean, yeah. You give it up some of your money?

No, but I'm just saying, how do you fix the problem? How do you fix the issue when you start, your superstar are getting hurt? Probably you're going to have to train a lot harder. If you're asking me, meaning like in the, offseason, you can't take no month, two months off, bro. You kind of got to stay consistent, you know, whether it's just staying in shape, running, things of that sort, because that's all it is, bro. It's just the running part that there's really killing cats, playing at this ultra-high

level, you know what I mean, especially when we get into post season. You know, you can't take a playoff. You know, I know, I know you, we sit here almost every other night, man. I'll talk about, you know, playing the game of basketball is three and a half, four miles a game, bro. Can you imagine running four miles every other night? Every night? Yeah. Up and down, yeah.

You definitely have to condition your body. You have to condition your body to withstand that kind of. And that's what Ocho and I was talking about is that we played a physical game. They were hitting. We were doing all those things. They didn't ask us to go from zero to a hundred just on Sundays. We had to crank

it up during the week. And I don't know if they crank it up like what we did. And I'm not saying the guys are not tough. It's a different game now. We understand that. And maybe it's because everything gets covered. The NFL is covered so much different than it was when I played and when you played Ocho.

and even when the beginning, when I first got to the league. But I don't remember guys getting injured like they get now. I don't remember it. And I'm not saying that it didn't. So, so Chad, don't, don't beat me up too bad. I just don't remember. Did the guys have ACLs? Yes.

The guy have Achilles, but not these non-contact injuries, not the injuries that we have that we see now. Look, look. Yeah. I mean, definitely not to the star. That's what I'm saying. It's happening to the stars, fellas. So it lets you know that obviously they're playing a substantial amount of minutes.

It's obviously wearing, tearing on their bodies to where they're breaking down. Yeah. I mean, Uncle, Joe, you know, you know, my whole thing is obviously, for one, it's hard for me to even have. have, you know, input on conversation like this, being that I didn't have any injuries. But I always say, I know a play around with nutrition, but forget nutrition, you know, for this point. But I think people or players, regardless of what sport you play, you have to learn to build a callous in the body. You have the body has to get used to, you know, ramping up to a certain amount, to a certain degree that you do on Sundays, which is why

when I did practice, I always practice full speed as if it was a game. Yeah. You know, there was no relaxing, there was no, you know, taking a playoff. Hell, the funny part, I used to get cursed out on and walkthrough because sometimes I would do walkthrough full speed. I mean, I wasn't doing it to be funny. I was doing it just so to continue to make sure my body stays acclimated and always at a high rate of speed at all times. And for some reason, I think it's those small things that I did that one of the reasons

why I didn't get hurt. And obviously, I played the same sport on there. Joe, a barbaric sport. I played very reckless, Joe, you know, cross the middle, you know, diving and hitting people, even though I lost every time I tried to hit somebody. I lost every single one, Joe, but I still never got hurt. And I'm at that talking, everybody trying to knock my head off,

everybody trying to kill me. Joe, but I still never got hurt. You know? I mean, they call it walkthrough, but I was a brisk jog. It wasn't a walking. And it was like, hey, pick it up. I said it's a walkthrough. Nah, that's just entitled.

Ain't no walking. Right, right, right. And I say it was, nobody walked but the mailman. That's why he don't make what you make. Right. And they don't gave that joke a call. Now, the mailman don't even walk no more. Hey, hold on.

Hold on. You think you know, I don't know about y'all, but here in Georgia, boy, they got some new mail trucks in the month of June and July. Them boys in AC. Yeah. Hey, you see, they sit real low, right, Joe? They sit real low. The mail truck is made different.

It looks almost futuristic now. Okay. So it ain't nothing like that much. Yeah, yeah. They got to be. I don't know. I ain't seen the mail truck. Yeah, they got to be it too, Joe.

Yeah, because of the old mail truck, they had the one seat in there, and the guy had the mail right there, he pulled up there to him on your head and you go. But he knew everybody. I mean, that joke, I was like, how do you know everybody? He'd have sorted the mail before he went out there, he'd know the route that he's going to go. Hey, the first box, I stopped off, he can put the man right here. But yeah, man, the male, the jokes, hey, they got on short sense. Be sweating.

Be sweating. Have sweat all in their uniform. They ain't having that down, Ocho Kelly. Hey, they're living good, boy. They be clean now. But, uh, yeah, I look. And the thing is practice.

See, I enjoy practice. Practice was really the opportunity, Ocho and Joe for me to really work on because this guy that he sees me every day in practicing, he knows all the little nuances on my route. He know that little wiggle at the top. He knows the little head nod to the top. or the three steps to the, like, Nasha. And the thing is, I give credit,

Ronnie Bradford, Derek Dodge, Tony Veeland, they would always give me great feedback. Yes. They're like, hey, they're like, sharp, you got on your toes, I knew you was breaking it. Because I would ask, I said, bro, how you knew that route? He said, man, I saw you get on your toes at the top of it. So I just took a, I took it, I know you breaking in or out.

So I just took the, I took the thing up for myself to jump under it. Okay. So it kept me, okay, make sure I stay out of my toes. that I would, you know, BP would have it cut up. And so I look at it like, damn, I gave it away. I gave it away. But I'm saying to myself, he don't know this. The guy that's in the game don't know this.

But even then, even though he don't know it, I'm trying to cut out because I don't want to give away no tendencies. Because we're a tendency. Look, we study tendencies. We're going to get TV copy. That's why they're trying to get the cadence of the quarterback. Huh, we're trying to get that. We're trying to get how you stagger your stance and jump off the ball.

We're trying to get there. Whether you're dropping, whether you're coming, whether you're doing a T.E. Or E.T., whatever the case may be, we're looking at all that. That's how the game has evolved. That's how the great players, they know, oh, we got a bird over here, which means he's about to fly. He's about to pool. Yeah, he's sitting like, hey, because, and I had the thing was like, because I didn't want grass to get on my thing because, you know, I had those all tactified gloves. And I was like, if it was a pass, I'm down like this.

here. If it's a run, I'm like this. Oh, Sharpe, you don't think we know, huh? What you know? Don't worry about it. So I had to, sometimes you have to self-scout yourself, but I agree with AI. But I tell you what, Joe, just think if that 65 games wasn't in place, how many more games would they have missed? Let's just say for the sake of argument, the 65 game isn't the cutoff. a lot of guys came back just to make the 65 you're right you're right

so we have other guys like Wimby when we're going to get that 20 minutes in the last three games he ain't been to miss that defensive player of the year

he's not been to miss in the all NBA because now that puts him in line for the Supermax right yeah Yokic ain't going to miss no more game because now he's in line

for a supermax and man is going come back next year and do everything he can to make all NBA because if he makes it now he's in line for a supermax

and guess what In 2025, in 2027, 82 million. Yeah, when in Shay up again, Unk? He just, She just signed four years, 294. Last summer? This year. Yeah, he has the effect now. Hey, that's crazy too, Unk.

When I think about it, Joe, and Unk, I'm talking about the play. I'm talking about the top players, you know? Yes. The Cades and the Wembies and some of the players that you know that deserves Super Max based on their value and what they bring to the team. skill set and what they're able to do and the fact that, well, if they miss this amount of games, that means we can't reward you for what your true value is. That's, in a sense, that's messed up.

It is. That's messed up. The fact that they even agreed to that when, listen, injuries is a part of sports. Andrews is a part of anything, any sports you play. And the fact that now they're kind of punishing players where if you miss this many games or you don't play this many games, you know, we're not going to reward you with what's your true value is because your ass always hurt. Yeah.

And guys were just sitting out and see here's the thing. How do you, that's their body. You don't know they could be hurt. They could be telling me absolute truth. But, Ocho, when I got a game on a Saturday night and it's supposed to be a big game or I got a game on a Sunday and guys sitting down in the street clothes and they got the NBA said, no, they don't worry about it. Yeah.

We're going to fix this. Yeah. The NBA PA signed off on it. Joe, they couldn't have done anything. This has to be, this is collective. You're right. You're right. You're right.

See, the player signed off on it. And then it's like, oh, I got biased remorse. This is really, hey, this is really, this is really, this really hurting me. Damn. It's hurting the game, bro. It is. I don't think, I don't think I've ever seen a year to where we've had this many of our stars. out of, you know, missed, missed a significant amount of time.

I don't think I've ever seen it, man. I'm telling you, for it, I think this is probably historic this year. Seriously. Yeah. And the guys are getting bigger, stronger, faster. So they're going to have to get themselves in better conditions. Yeah, they do, man. They do.

Hey, hey, Joe. You been in the gym yet? Come on, man. Come on. I stay in the gym, baby. What's up? I'm talking about like, you know, getting some shots working on your lateral movement. I need to see you some footage when I go tomorrow.

Nah, hey, hey, Joe. Hey, I got to show these shoes. I got just for you, Joe. And I got them literally just to play you to make sure. What's your shoes you got? Hey, Joe, hey, hey, hold on, hold on. I don't want to leave and go get them. Okay, okay.

Let me make, let me make a call and tell them to bring my shoes. Hold on. Hey, hey, look. I'm going to tear his head cat rag. don't even know it. Hey, Joe, I promise you one thing, Joe. I promise you one thing. The way you think and you talk like you're going to drag me on my mama resting.

Don't, don't bring your mom in this. Don't do that. I'm there telling you, Joe, I'm telling you how it's going to be. Joe, I know you wanted a grader, Joe, I'd have studied you. Oh, Joe, hey, hold on. I made a DVD in there, right? I made a DVD in there. I have all your, all your clips, right?

Your best moves. So I've been watching your tendencies. What the move you like to do? Hey, one, two, and come back to the left and pull up. Joe, I've been watching it, Joe. I've been watching. No, you laughing. You're laughing.

I'm serious. Trivel twice to the right. Come back, cross over the left and pull up right away. Hey, I'm lying. Hey, who raised dude, man? Okay. For real. For real.

Joe, I got the whole breakdown, Joe. I'm ready. You ready for it, boy, Joe? Hold on. Matter of fact, and let me go get the shoes. Hold on, hold on, because she's sleep. Hey, hey, Joe, did you watch LeBron tonight? Did you see how he came by tonight?

Hey, boy, I'm playing winning man. Did you see how he came out tonight, Joe? That's what we've been looking for. Man, damn, them. They'll get it how you get it. Look, the man, what do you got? 26, 8, and 11. 26, 11.

11 of 17, 3 or 5. That's what I'm talking about, Joe. But that's what I'm saying. If he's going to just assert himself early on, then rest of them dudes will catch up, Man, the game will be easy for them, too. You know what I mean? Like, you ain't necessarily got to just come out

and beat Magic Johnson right off dump to where you just facilitating the whole first quarter, man. Damn, all that. I need you to get to it. Yeah, I mean, he's like, you try to break Scott and Scalves' assists record. Try to get 31. Hey, you see, hey, hold on.

We need 35. And hold on, you see Bruny in there with 10 points, four for seven from the field. You see Brian out there. Hey, look, I don't know about nobody else. Chat. y'all let me know what y'all think but for me when i watch the lakers play i love seeing bruny out there with lebrun for whatever reason you know i love seeing them run pick and roll together i love to see

brun get a sis out brunny brunny get us like because i feel like this is his it's so historic that it's happening in real time and a lot of people can't even appreciate it but i can't even imagine being in the NBA me and my son on the same team bro that just sounds crazy Easy. What's this you got, bro? And LeBron don't look at him as a son because LeBron, he gave LeBron that bad pants against Dallas.

He's like, Brian. All right, what did they do? He probably got home with Savannah like, hey, don't you yell at my baby no more. Hey, hey, you know what's funny? All that cursing they do on the court, Joe. I mean, you couldn't play with your son because the first time he cursed you don't be mad.

Oh, you got them Kyrie's, huh? Yeah, yeah, Kyrie sent these to me. A, Kyrie be watching the show. Let me see what they look like. Let us see what they look like. Hey, hey, um, Karii be watching the show, right? And he told me he gave me his blessing to give Joe that work. I'm going to knock them damn tassels off them damn shoe, boy.

When I get done with your ass. Hey, you see that, Joe? Yeah, I see. Hey, that's what you, that's what you're going to see. You're going to see them tassels going right by your ass. That's what you going to see. Kari, Karee going back to his hair. Hey, hey, hey, Karee, I appreciate that.

Boy, I love you. You hear me? I ain't going to let you down. I'm gonna get Joe that work. Hey, they don't fly, but what I'm hooping in, they ain't gonna be in the mess with what I got. I ain't even gonna show you. You're gonna see them when you see me, partner.

Yeah, that's how I roll. Hey, hey, okay, okay. Hey, mind you mouth, Joe. Mind you out now. Chet has finished as the number one seed his entire career. In 2018, 19, and 20, and 21 at Mihaha Academy. He was the number one seed. in the 2021 Feeble Under 19 World Championship,

number one seed, Gonzaga, number one seed, OKC, Oklahoma C, OKC, number one, number one. I told you, what I told you on Ocho doing the playoffs, I said, the better check becomes the better OKC will be, and he will determine whether they be a dynasty or not.

Because if he played great, it's going to be hard to beat him. Look what he did yesterday, Uncle Ocho. So he had 30 and 14. Four blocks. You know what I'm saying? So he rim protected. Not only is he scoring, but he rim protecting and he's making the game easy, you know, for the guys around him as well.

I think his growth and maturity for OKC will determine how great of a team that they are. Yeah, we know Shay going to put up 30 plus. We know Jalen Williams going to do his thing. But if Chet can play at a high level, man, they're going to be almost unbeatable. fellas. Would you? Yeah. I mean, look, they just got so many. They just come at you. It's just going to be, it's just going to be hard for somebody to beat them unless they have. And the thing is, what are the likelihood of them having four bad nights? Not likely. Four bad nights. Because they got guys that can shoot it. McCain was a great pickup, Caruso.

Yeah, what's the left? What's the other little lefty who'd be bawling, a little light screys. Oh, yeah, I know you're talking about. I can't think of his name, Joe. Is he named Mitchell? It might be. It might be. Man. But Jeremy Clayne was a solid pickup because remember, he was playing really well in Philly

before he got hurt. Oh, yeah, yeah, no, no, no. He was a great pickup, you know, a very underrated pickup. You know, a guy who is hungry, ready to prove himself. Obviously, he feels slighted for what happened to him in Philly. So, you know, he's coming over there with, you know, with Avengers, bro. He looked good out there, huh? I'm Luke Wilson.

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would be without Embedentedly. He had surgery in Houston on Thursday after being stricken with appendicitis overnight. The sixers have lost three straight and dropped into a tie with Charlotte for the eighth seed in the east. Joel and Bede is just saying, you know what?

He might as well just call him Slep Rock. I don't know if y'all remember the cartoon Slep Rock with every time you come around, bad stuff just start happening. Yeah. Hey, that appendectomy. That's not,

that's not, you're not out that long with that, though, huh? Yeah, you're going to be there for a minute. Boy, they got to go inside and get them things up out.

Damn. That's your appendix. Yeah. They open you up, but I know they open you up, but I'm just saying the time that he has to miss. Obviously, here'll be,

he'll be back. It's not, I mean, not too long. Probably a week. Okay, that's not bad. That's not bad. That's not bad.

That's not bad. Long as it's not a significant amount of time, especially with them, you know, getting ready for the playoffs. I think the thing, oh, Joe, is that, Joe, is that seem like every time, this time of year is something. Yeah. You remember last year it was his knee and it's been his knee and it's been his back and it's been his ankle. And like I said, I've never seen anybody with the only people that I've seen with more stomach issues than Joel and Beat is babies.

I ain't never seen nobody have issues like him. It's something. I don't know what's going on and I, you know, I'm saying that tongue and chin. cheek, but he's had issues with his stomach before. And Penn decided there's nothing you can do. I heard it's very painful from people that have had it. It's like, oh, bro, they got you, hey, if they have you doubled up. And clearly, you do emergency surgery.

But it's just like, it's one thing after nothing. I don't know. I'm trying to think that the time, maybe once in his career, that he's entered the postseason and he's been healthy. In his career, and he's been in the league 10 years. One time of all those years. Because we see what he, boy, when he's healthy the regular season, that joke alone.

He had to deal with. Wait. That joke alone. Hold on. Has there been a season? If he's been in the league, 10 years, I'm not sure how many years he's been in the league. Has he had a complete season where he's been able to play an 82 game season? No.

He's not going to ever play 82 games. Yeah, because of the size. There was a couple of seasons, Ocho, and Joe, when you remember that he was having MVP caliber year, he ended up winning one that he was playing probably 68, 70 games. Okay. Yeah. Okay. Okay. But, but then come playoff time. Ney.

Because remember last year, he was like, what was it? Last year or two years ago that he was like barely getting? That might have been, was that last year? Might have been last year. Might have been a two years ago that he was like 30, it looked like he was about 40 years ago. But when he's, look, when he's healthy and that's a big win and that's probably why, you know, they haven't enjoyed the success that they've

that they wanted to have, even when Hardin was there, because he couldn't stay healthy. And then when it had Ben Simmons, he had some issues, and then Ben had the issue with the Hawks, and they had the issues with the Hawks, and they ended up losing to the Hawks in seven games.

And I said that, they're never going to be the same. It's over for them. They're going to break that team up. I said, uh, Joe Lema's gone. For Doc to say what he said, for Joel to say what he said. Right.

I said it. I said, oh, man, you don't know what you're talking about. I said, okay. And then Philly, Philly, you know, you may, you know, You know I entered that old Joe and Joe. Man, they had a trash can. Going down, it was flooded, and there was a trash can and people talking about this, this Ben Simmons.

I said, oh, yeah, so it's definitely over now. That's the baby. And you got to trust the process. No, the process is over with. Here, you're talking about it. That process should over with. Hey, listen, and this is why I'm talking, this is what I'm talking about, this is what I'm talking about, though, when MB don't play,

you look at max and edge comb numbers. They'd be totally different, bro. You know, I mean. Because M.B. there's a ball stopper, Uncle Ocho, meaning there is not a lot of movement. Yeah, he's going to get you 25, 35 points a night. But the rest of these dudes around him, they ain't going to really be doing a whole lot. You know what I mean? Because he's so stagnant offensively and there's no rhythm, there's no flow.

So, you know, you got a rookie like Edgecombe who thrives in transition. You ain't going to get many transition buckets, bro. You know what I mean? Because you're saying M.B. taking up space? I'm saying because he's so bald. dominant when the ball gets in his hands, it stops. It don't move. You know, he ain't moving around, setting too many picks and rolling.

You know what I mean? It's just not a lot of flow and rhythm in the game. So it hurts everybody else around him. Yeah, he can score in a half-court set. You know, that's what he can do. But, you know, the glaring thing is he doesn't give you much defensively. You know what I mean? He's spending all, he expanding all this energy on the offensive end,

you know, letting you know that. Look, I can still get 30. at night, you know, and we know that. But defensively, you don't see a whole lot of shot blocking from them. You don't see a whole lot of great defense. And that's kind of got Philly behind the A ball. So I don't expect much from Philly. I'm going to be honest with y'all.

They're going to be a first round. I mean. And what? You know what I got to question. Because they're right now they're into playing. Go ahead, Ocho. Now I'm going to say, why are we on the top of NB, right? That year he won MVP.

Who was the other person that won right behind? Who was run up? If I'm not stage. Now, if Yoke was running up, right? And think about Joe, think about all the things you just said about everything becoming stagnant offensively when Embed is playing, right? So when you look at, when you look at Joker and when he plays, what's the difference in what Joker does and what Embed does, being that he's a defensive liability as well. Because still put up 30. You don't see them, you see them assist number, Yok is got?

Okay. He's obviously, he's not the passer. He's not the passer that Joker did. Yokic is, if he asks me, he's a past first center. Who can score? He's a look and score. You know, okay, boom, he ain't open on the cut. Y'all ain't, y'all playing me one-on-one.

Okay, cool, I'm just going to go for 50 tonight. Don't even worry about that. You know what I mean? Right. I think Yokish IQ for the game, Ocho, is just, it's a little, much better. Hey, hold on. Hey, Yolkish IQ for the game is basically like LeBron. Yeah.

Correct. Yeah. Yeah. Because when you come with the double team, he knows where you come. Depending on who comes, he knows where he's supposed to be. Yeah. So his man is open. That's why he throws so many passes behind his head because he knows the man came from the weak side.

Right. And so he knows that whoever is in the dunker spot, whether it's Kristen Brown, or whether it's Gordon or whether it's Strother or whether it's Peyton Watson, he knows that there. So I can go behind my back because I know somebody's filling from the dunker's spot. Yeah. And that's just... He gets that ball in. the nail, he knows you can't come double him. If you do come double him, you double somebody in the middle of the court?

Are you crazy? No, you can't do that. And giving both points? And that's just, that's just having a great feel for the game, fellas. You know, knowing exactly where your guys are supposed to be at it all the time, that's what a point guard does. Your center never really, who never really operates like that. This is why Yoke is just so great.

It ain't, you know, he's going to put up a triple double. it's because he going to, you know, he's going to do what he can. I mean, he's going to score the ball if he had to score it that night. If he need to get 20 assists, hell, he going to do that. If he need to get 20 rebounds, he's going to do that. He going to do whatever it takes for them to win. And that's why they've been successful. And that's what makes it so unique.

He's about to lead the league in rebounding and assist. And you might not ever see it again. Because normally when guys lead, most of the time, when guys obviously lead the league and assists, it's a guard. to ask a guard to lead the league in rebounding. So think about it. Now you've got a center that's leading the league and rebounding and he's going to lead the league and assist.

Check this out, guys. And Harris Joel Embedde's playoff injury history. 2018, he had an orbital fracture and a concussion. 2019, he had an illness, knee tendinitis. 2020, COVID bubble. 2021, torn meniscus. 22, orbital fracture, torn thumb ligament. 2023, knee sprain,

2024, Bell palsy, 2026, Fendicitis, one week before the playoffs start. 18, 19, 20, 21, 22, 23, 24, another 25.

So basically eight or the nine years, he's had something going into the playoffs. Hey, who the hell is Bell palsy? It's a, it's a debilitating thing. That calls, sometimes you see it, the mobbed crook.

Right. Yeah. you know. Okay. Yeah. Okay. I think it's a new logical. Okay.

Okay. I think it's a new logical. It's almost like it reminds people of a symptom like a stroke. You know, sometimes people have a stroke. Yeah. Yeah. speech or they have hands or something. It's kind of like that.

Okay. But I don't think anybody's had one look to join me. That joke got buzzet look. Yeah. it's unfortunate for him too, man, because, you know, it seemed like all this really, really started happening after their MVP year, too, you know what I mean? After it's MVP year, it's like everything started going downhill for it. No, Joe, he was hurt before the MVP.

Think about it. 2018, he had an orbital fracture and a concussion. 2019, he had an illness in knee tendonitis. 2020 was the bubble. 2021, he had a torn meniscus. 22, he had another orbital fracture and a torn kidney ligament. 2023 he had a knee sprained 24 he had Bell's palsy

2026 he had appendicitis so I mean he's been if you think about it Joe think about coming out of college what was it? He'd have been the first pick in the draft if it's back if his injuries wasn't the only

so normally when you come if you limp into a league you limp out of you limp out of it you limp into the season you limp out of it because you know Joe being injured during the season it's hard to get healthy man

It's hard to get help. Because the games come too fast. You know what I mean? Especially in basketball, football, you know, you make it nurture your injuries a little better. But in basketball, hell, if I'm playing four games and five nights, hell, I'm probably going to have to sit out with one or two of them games. To get yourself back right.

Damn. That's crazy. Man, it's tough. Look, I've dealt with injuries. I mean, I have, I mean, I played 14 years. you know, had some success. But Joe, I miss, I missed 16. I missed 16 complete games.

That's a season. Yeah. That's a season. Damn. Man. That's unfortunate, man. That hurts. That hurts Philly a lot, bro.

Because, you know, M.B will be great in the postseason in the playoffs because because of your goal. But without him, they definitely ain't got no chance. Joe, you said something very interesting. You said, like, when Joel and Bede is out, you look at Maxie, Max and you look at Veej. Yes, because he calmeda. Maxie can take you off the dribble, but Joel and B is right there. Yeah, yeah.

Edgecombe is explosive, and Bede is right there. The difference is, if you notice, they rarely, if you look at where Yokic posts up at, he always post up, he's either at the nail or at the top. Because even if he ever gets down on the bottom. block, he's looking to go cross court. He's looking to pass first. You better not bring no double team. He's looking to pass first. You're right. Absolutely.

Chicago Sky have traded two-time WMBA All-Star Angel Reese to the Atlanta Dream for first round draft picks in 27 and 28. Angel is the only WMBA player in history to average at least 12 rebounds per game in a season, which he did in 20, 25, 24 and 25. The Angel's Dream jersey sold out fan. not even her mom was able to get one. Damn. Lisa Leslie gave Angel the nickname ATL Peach Barbie.

Joe seemed like Angel got what she wanted. She's a perfect fit. Is she a perfect fit for the city? Hell yeah, she's a perfect fit. These people are going to get behind me. Y'all already know it. Y'all know how they, listen, this is Black Hollywood, brother. Yep.

They're going to embrace her and everything that she does. You know, whether she may even come out with her own shoe now. Does she already have a shoe? No? Yeah, I think A. She got a Reebok. Yeah, yeah, yeah. She got a shoe.

Yeah, but hold up, though. Yeah, yeah, you're right. She does. She does have a shoe with a Reebok. You're right. But if we can keep Brittany Griner and her, Angel, amen. Because. And with the chick from, what's her name?

From, she went to Kentucky. She's number one over draft pick. Ryan Howard. Yeah, yeah. Ryan Howard. We got a great. Hey, they got a good team. They got a good team.

They got a good team. And adding her, rebounding machine, play hard, hustle. Yeah, man, this gonna be a great fit for her. I like it. I like it. I think everybody got what they wanted. I think, you know, after kind of some of the comments that she made last year, I thought Chicago was ready to move on.

I think she was ready to move on. Ideally, I think this is, you can't get any more perfect than this. Yeah. You can, hey, she's from the DMV. You can't, you can't. can't get it any better than this. Yeah. Only thing, I think Washington

have a team, but this is where she needed to be. This is it. And, A. A. A. A. A. A. Angel Reese, hey, this is heaven for her. Yeah. This is it. She's going to love it here.

Hey, you know, what's funny, bro, my daughter 12, and she love Angel Reese. That's like our favorite player. I swear, I can't make this up. So we definitely- You're going to ask it all the games. Yeah, we're going to be in some games. Hey, Angel Reese, if you're watching this now, I need to get my baby girl a picture with you.

You know, we're going to come check you. I'll support you. So, you know, good luck in the, hey, these people are going to get behind you for sure. You know, but I'm in the city with. they're at. Yeah. Hey, Joe. You know who I got, I got Asia.

Yeah. I got Asia. I got Chelsea Gray. I got Jackie Young. Hey, we're going to have to, hey, I'm going to come down there, man. Come on, we're going to go to a game. Yeah. Yeah.

What's up? Oh, Joe. When we're going? Man, let me be this week. Hey, Joe, you ever, you ever been to a dream game before? Hell yeah, I'd have been to a few. Hey, boy, I went to one, I went to one, remember, remember I went to the dream game that one time?

Yeah, you went to, yeah. You told me it was lit. Man, I did, Joe, I ain't never. Hit this thing like my boy DJ. Joe, I ain't never seen that like that, boy. Oh, Joe, it's different. It's different. I'm talking about at the women's games, the dreams.

It's different out here. It was nice, it was nice, Joe. It was like you in the club, but it's a basketball game going on, and don't let it be no time out, Joe. That's how the hog game is. Oh, Joe. That's how the horse game. Can you imagine what magic on steroids.

So imagine the hawks. That's how it is. Yeah. What? They dressed up like the club, Ocho. Yes, Lord. Oh, we're going down. Damn.

Yeah. I know, I know you. Just like the club. Yeah. I know you're happy. You know, you're going to have Cambodia with you. You ain't, you're going to have them blinders on. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

Hey, Joe. I should have done. We ain't doing nothing. We're going to keep him clean, Cambodia. Yeah. He was trying to go to Houston, but I like. Hey, Joe, I could have won't. My credit card declined.

Any Houston thing, anything that got Houston on it declined. Hey, Joe, I could have wore my cheetah pants to the game, huh? Yeah, you could have won them, Ocho. Hey, when nobody had these things on weight. Hey, look, because it really, it ain't going to hurt you to look at the menu. You ain't trying to order nothing, you know what I mean?

Matter of fact, Joe, I ain't even going to look at the menu, Joe. You ain't going to look. I mean, you got eyes, Ocho. I got eyes, but, hey, hey, the stuff on the menu ain't nothing like what I got now. Yeah, I know, I know. I get it. I mean, Ocho, just because you are you ordered a wagoo,

but sometimes you look at the chicken pawns. I'm gonna be like, damn, maybe I just, you know, I'm just saying, Ocho, you just just look at you. That's all I'm saying. Ocho, just because you don't order it, it doesn't mean you can't read the menu. You just can't order again off the menu. That's all. I can't read, huh?

I can't read. I can't read. I ain't mad at Cho Cho. You know. Boy, hey, Joe, you know, I bid. I bid Atlanta, Joe, we might have to go, you know, go on, you know, go on to do something, Joe. Oh, yeah, we got to go and you go and to do something. No, I'm trying to be, you know, me and you go.

You don't mean you hanged a weekend. Oh, yeah. Say last. What you want to do? Oh, we're going this weekend? No, da, da, da, da, da, da, da. We're going to go by you. Joe, I talk to y'all line.

Yeah, all right, all right. But I do want to. Hey, yeah, but as we were saying, I think this is a great fear. ATL, Peach Barbie. Yeah, hey, y'all put me in the group chat. Hey, hey, I do want to check out that little spot you were talking about, though.

That one little spot. You know what I'm talking about. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Okay, okay, okay. Yeah. Say no more. Yeah. Hey, I pay, I pay for us.

No, no, no, no. I pay, I'll pay. I pay. Uh-uh, uh-uh, uh-uh. Hey, Joe, you got my message today on Instagrams and Twitter? Yeah, I say, okay. I see you in that doing you, look, you all I mean. Yeah, Joe.

Boy, that shit ain't enough, though. I'm gonna keep it real with you. Okay. Ain't enough. You know my reach. You know my reach. My Reese, you know what I mean? Hey, Joe, Joe, I'm coming up under that.

I'm coming up under all that now. You see how Fadora done, uh, uh, uh, Hurtan. Hey, my last name in Thurman, my last name, Johnson. But, hey, I would talk, I would talk, I would talk of basketball. I would talk in basketball. But if you want to go, if you want to go that route, I mean, we just got to get to, we just, in order for us to really hang out,

Ocho, we got to get the fade out the way. That way I can feel good about myself because it's going to be hard. for me to hang out with you, you know, knowing you're the high side of me. You're the high side of me. And I pose to just live with it. Like, I just need three minutes, bro. Then, you know, I get your hug. I still love you.

Hey. Hey, hey, honestly, Joe. What's up? Like, you probably ain't going to want to be my friend, you know, because I'm going to turn your ass every way but loose. You hear me? Hey, Joe. Hey.

Hey. Listen, you, I love you like a little brother, man. You know, but, I mean, it is. It is what it is. I'm trying to hoop. Okay, we can hoop. We can hoop. Hey, what I want to see is I want to see you catch that ball in the block,

in the low post or the high post, and try to do all the moves you be doing. That's cheating. I ain't going to even post you up. No, no, no, no, no. It's not cheating, Joe. It's not, my strength is my lower body, my lower extremity. So I'm ready.

Up here, I'm good. Hey. I don't think, I don't think your lateral movement that's great. That's why I don't get you moving side to side. And I get to hit you with that, that you ain't going to. Joe, timeout, time out. Joe, you're talking to the person with the greatest feet ever, ever, ever, ever, ever, ever. Yeah, you're good, in a straight line.

Like, straight line, Joe, I'm good. You said he got football feet there, Joe. You say he ain't got no boxing feet. Yeah, he ain't shuffling. He ain't keeping nobody in front of it. All right. He's doing none of that. All right.

Okay. You know, I don't even want to talk about it anymore. I don't want to talk about it anymore. All right, let it go. And you're going to get what you're looking for. Okay. Say, Les Pont, I'm right here, baby. Yeah, you're probably drunk right now.

No, no. I ain't drunk, I'm feeling good. Yeah. We got a little buzz going on too, man. Hey, I got you see, you see me, I got my little portier too. I see, I see, yeah, yeah. Yep. Joe Rivenson is about high school,

old you told about college. Y'all tripping, bro. High school was fun, man. It was. It was. but once I left I really you know that was it for your boy I mean you know like I had said

like when I left my girlfriend was still in college I mean still in high school mine too yeah when I was a freshman in college oh yeah hey damn I wonder what my is it is it weird to wonder where your girlfriend from high school lives

at this point? No I mean I haven't thought about it right I mean we talk about it I just wonder how she's doing I wonder if she's okay, I'm curious. Well, I mean, last to her, she had two, she had two, I mean, her kids grown now. Right. Yeah.

So, yeah, I mean. Oh, so you. My high school, my college girlfriend, she had two more kids. Right. They're grown. I mean, close to being grown. Yeah. But no, I mean.

Hey, that's crazy. Joe, when I think about it, Joe, I only dated two people in high school. Yeah. Yeah, literally. Like, like, dead serious, really only two people. I mean, dating, that don't mean you ain't shag nobody just because you date. Okay, date you had two girlfriends, but that don't mean you ain't put it down. I know, no, no, no, no, no.

I'm talking about serious dating. Obviously, my oldest daughter, I dated her mom in high school and one other person after that. And the other person after that, I'm curious. How is your oldest? 27. Oh, so you got a child with your high school sweetheart. Yeah, yeah. Yeah, yeah.

Yeah, she took advantage of me. You were young, didn't know no better. Hey, no, no, no. I mean, I was irresistible back then, Joe. If you think I looked good, now, you should have seen me in high school, Joe. Hey, hey, hey, you were laid up with your man. Yeah, I would. I would.

I would look funny. I would look funny looking dude back then. I was funny looking back. Hey, Joe, I could dread. But I put that thing on, Joe. You know, I'd be out there clean with my clogs and my ballets, my polo sets. You know, my Tommy Hill figure said, Joe. You know, my jeans starts up to the tea with the white teeth.

with the, hey, Joe, hey, y'all were clean, Joe. But you had, you had as weak pullout game than your man. Yeah, I couldn't even pull out a driveway, Joe. You hear me? But you got to understand. Oh, yeah, yeah, you know that Joe were there. Hey, but you got to understand. There was a method to my man, Joe.

I only had kids with people that were athletic. That's what it. Only, I don't care how fine you is. I ain't kidding about you being an IG baddie. I ain't kidding about having that. Everyone I have a child from understand the athletic background. to give me an advantage when it comes to my child being an athlete.

That's all. Hey, Ocho, your kid's pretty competitive when it comes to you? Every, yeah, every last one. Man. Every last one. My eyes is too, bro. All three of them.

Hey, the funny thing you said about playing his son one-on-one, he'd be cursing. Yeah. You let it go? Yeah. Yeah. And in the midst of battling

and in the midst of competing, yeah, I don't want you to lose that edge. I don't want you to lose that competitive nature. I don't want you to lose that. Listen, I don't want you to lose expressing yourself in that moment. I don't. You know what? You know what for me, Ocho, you know, with my oldest son,

I just feel like he can control his emotions around me. You know what I mean? Like, don't tell me you can. Bro, we're just playing pickup. This ain't no real game. Obviously, we want to win. We're competing. But for you to just be F bombing and...

Yeah. I love that. I love that, Joe. Because listen. Ain't no way, Joe. Ain't no way my kids would talk like that in front. No, sir, re. That ain't going to happen.

Hey, we play in a sport. I ain't trying to hear all that. I don't know what we play it. Hey, Joe, we're playing a sport. I want you acting the same way I act. I ain't got time for all that. Don't be cursing all that. No, I ain't got time for all that.

Be you. Express yourself. I'm sorry. I can't do well, Joe. I got you. I got you. You like me, Joe. No, sir, Ree.

Yeah. No. Hey, yo. Hey, they might let one, sir. I said, what you said? Hey, go to bed. What are you doing up? Oh, my bad, daddy.

No. Okay. Okay. You still doing up. Don't do that. Hey, I understand. You're going to talk like that in front of me now. Nah, yeah, no.

Hey, I'm saying, way, man. Hey, look, no, bro. I'll tell you, it's been three years since me and my old to play pick up together. He was 16. Yeah. Yeah. Joe. I'm about to be 58.

I pay my mama bills. I don't cuss in front of my mama. That's what I'm saying. You don't think you're in the cuss in front of me. I still pay half your bills. Hey, oh, no. Hey, Ocho, Ocho, why I ain't curse in front of my mama, my grandma, my grandma.

No. Hold on. I ain't cursing in front of my. Hold on. You think I can curse in front of Bessie made flowers? Or I can curse it from Paul and Johnson? I ain't cursing in front of him either. But I'm, when it, when it comes to compete in,

on that field, man. Joe, I told you, Joe, I ain't wear a mouthpiece for a reason. And it just did it start when I got to the league. Man, that started an optimist. Boy, my grandma looked at me sideways when I say ass. I say, great, it's in the Bible, but it ain't in there like that. Oh, no, no, sir. Yeah, I wouldn't even, I wouldn't even, I wouldn't even, I wouldn't even, I wouldn't even, I couldn't

He fixed my mouth to say a S-O-B, a mofo, a what? G-D. No. That ain't what happened. I'm sorry. Yeah, it doesn't say well with me neither. I'm talking about it. Hey, look, I can't even focus on the game anymore.

He out there dropping them F-bombs and Bs and all. I'm like, hey, hey, see, hey, you know what that telling me? A, Unk, this would have tell me. When I'm playing him, all I got to do is cuss his ass out. See, I mean, I'm a be in your head. man you you grown his head i'm talking about my damn son well well well well i'm gonna be my son when i'm done with you you're gonna be about something when i'm done with you i'm gonna get in your head joe i'll play like that okay joe b a joe i think you know what i a outro from the south

but me and your background we got a lot of similarities joe we got a lot of similarities joe i'll play i'll play like that i think it's the canceling us uh you know we we good people bro it's just you just some stuff we just ain't going to tolerate. I'm a good person too. I'm a, I'm a Capaforn. I'm a good person too, Joe. A hell no. I know.

And the funny part, Ocho, I know we always talk about this, but damn, I worry about my son because y'all got the same birthday. So he kind of, you know, I want to. That's my dog. That's my dog. Joe, sometimes I can't even form a complete sentence without cursing, Joe. I can't. You know, it's hard for me because it's always been a part of my vernacular, okay?

I have an extensive vocabulary, Joe. I just, I just, when you ever you curse, hey, it's like me, it's like me, right? I'm talking to y'all and I say, you know what, Uncle Joe? Man, I love y'all, man. Now, it means something, but when you say, hey, Uncle Joe, man, I fucking love y'all. See, that effing, it adds emphasis on the meaning

of what I'm trying to get across to y'all, and it means a lot more. Now, I can sit and call those sentence enhancers. So when you cook, you know how to cook, Joe, you know how to cook. It's like cooking with no seasoning. Curse words is nothing but the seasoning and it adds flavor to what you're trying to get across.

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