Nightcap - Best of NFL News Part 2: EXIT STRATEGY for A.J. Brown after the Eagles make moves to REPLACE him, Aaron Rodgers playing games?

Episode Date: April 14, 2026

Shannon Sharpe, Chad “Ochocinco” Johnson and Iso Joe Johnson react to the Denver Nuggets beating the San Antonio Spurs to clinch the 3 seed and face the Timberwolves in the first round, th...e Lakers beat the Jazz and now face the Houston Rockets in the first round, and the Sixers face the Magic in the first round of the playoffs and much more! Subscribe to Nightcap presented by PrizePicks so you don’t miss out on any new drops! Download the PrizePicks app today and use code SHANNON to get $50 in lineups after you play your first $5 lineup! Visit https://prizepicks.onelink.me/LME0/NI... 0:00 - Colton Hood joins the show11:52 - Steelers still waiting on Aaron Rodgers25:47 - Eagles trade for Dontayvion Wicks Timestamps may vary based on advertisements.) #ClubSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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Starting point is 00:02:55 Where you at? I'm in Kansas City right now. Yeah, yeah. Okay, okay. Yep. What's up? What's going on? Man, right.
Starting point is 00:03:04 All right, we got a time to work. Welcome my very special guest. He's a cornerback at the University of Tennessee, a 20-25 second team, all-S-A-C pick, a projected first-round pick, Coton Hood. Cote, how you doing, bro? You know what I'm living, so.
Starting point is 00:03:17 Man, thanks for joining us. What's going on. From Alabama, from Auburn to Colorado to Tennessee. What did you learn that each stop along the way that prepared you for this moment? I would say just, you know, just how to be where your feet are. You know what I'm saying?
Starting point is 00:03:35 East spot was, you know, different in their own ways, but just learning to be where my feet are and just, you know, be able to jail with new people at each spot, you know, definitely taught me that. And, you know, I feel like I can take that, you know, into an NFL locker room, you know, being able to go in there, be myself, you know what I'm saying, and be able to jail with my teammates, so. Hey, speaking of NFL locker room, what has the process been like? Obviously, the schools have been at and learning from different coaches, learning from different players,
Starting point is 00:04:05 getting insight, watching NFL. players that you might mold your game after? What has the process been like so far? I would say it's been like a dream come true, you know, like as a little kid, you dream of, you know, being in this position. So it's been a dream come true, being able to, you know, go to the different teams and see all the different places. So it's been a dream come true.
Starting point is 00:04:26 And, you know, I'm definitely excited for driving night for sure. See, Hood. What's going on? Man, tell me a little something about your game. Tell me about yourself. who you model your game after guys you enjoy watching, you know, as you was growing up. Tell me a little bit about. Yeah, so, you know, my uncle played in the league.
Starting point is 00:04:45 His name Rod Hood. He played nine seasons. And we got done. He was Patrick Peterson's personal trainer. So, you know, I got to grow up watching him a lot around him, even seeing like a lot of his, you know, all 22 stuff. So Patrick Peterson is a really big one. Someone I looked up to kind of model my game after, you know, his patience at press, you know, his ball tracking ability. returnability as well, you know what I'm saying?
Starting point is 00:05:08 So definitely that. Okay, that's what so. Hey, when it comes up, go ahead, Joe, go ahead. My bad, I want to just ask, I'm a huge fan of DB play, even though, obviously, I play receiver, but if you had to talk about your best asset,
Starting point is 00:05:23 your best attribute, your best strength when it comes to play in defense the back, what would it be? Man to man off, ball skills, technique. I mean, what would be? Yeah, I would definitely say, like, my technique, and when I'm playing man-in-man, you know, you see a lot of guys backing up,
Starting point is 00:05:36 When they're pressing, you know, allowing the receiver to dictate to them. I'm kind of like the opposite. I want to dictate to the receiver, you know what I'm saying, make them do what I want them to do, you know what I'm saying, that type of thing. So I'll say definitely my press man ability would definitely be, I'll say, my biggest strength. So I remember seeing you up at Colorado a couple of times, you know what I'm saying? We got to line it up, bro. I've been seeing you talking that trash, bro.
Starting point is 00:06:01 We got to line it up. We got to line it up, bro. That's what I'm talking about. about me. Hold on. Hey, hey, hey, see, Hood. Let me tell you something. Let me tell you something.
Starting point is 00:06:09 Hey, I think Monica's, who, Sue got that song, age ain't nothing but a number? Alia. Alia, okay, Alea, but listen to it. See, Hood, let me tell you something real quick, right? Before you get drafted,
Starting point is 00:06:20 if you want to get some work in, my feet didn't age. I did. So if you want some of this work, we can go out, listen, ten route. Tomone, guys lined up,
Starting point is 00:06:30 right? We did come out there for, hey, say what you want? Hey, play that song. Welcome to you. You know. You leave the SEC, you go to Colorado,
Starting point is 00:06:45 and then you return to Tennessee back to the SEC. And your time with Colorado and Coach Prime. What was, because that's what Coach Crime was the best DB to ever play the game. And so I'm sure that you took something. What did Coach Prime teach you about how to play this position? Obviously, it's like, look, the thing that you can't do at a corner, and we see a lot of corners. And Ocho and I was talking about this,
Starting point is 00:07:08 is that you panic. That's the thing. And you get a pass and a offense with all you have to do is just turn around. But they panic because they feel their beat and they don't trust their instincts. They don't trust their technique. So what was some of the things,
Starting point is 00:07:20 some of the nuggets that Coach Prime are? I think, honestly, the biggest thing I learned for Coach Prime was just like how important watching film could be for you, you know what I'm saying? Like, I think he would harp on, you know, film watch, you know what I'm saying?
Starting point is 00:07:34 and I would watch film before, but like the intent that he taught it to us and how to watch it, you know what I'm saying? I think it could definitely take somebody's game from being good to being great, you know what I'm saying? And I think that was the biggest thing I would say that I learned from him for show. Athletic, I mean, you test it off the chart.
Starting point is 00:07:55 How did you think that changed the perception of you coming out because of what you were able to do it? Yeah, I think, you know, I think a lot of people were, I guess, doubting, you know, my speed, my, you know, my, you know, athleticism, things like that. But, you know, I was always taught, like,
Starting point is 00:08:10 if you're a DB and you run a full speed and that's how 10, you beat. You know what I'm saying? So I guess kind of, that's kind of why they... That's a good one. Hey, say that again. Say it again. So if you're a d.
Starting point is 00:08:19 And, you know, you run a full speed at some point, then you, you're not out of 10, you beat. So, you know, like that. So, you know, like, I guess on tape, people don't really see me running full speed a lot. I'm not beat a lot of this time. So, you know, I got to go out there and show that at my pro day and my undercom. So I think that was the biggest thing.
Starting point is 00:08:40 Because when you look at your speed, I mean, your 4-4, which is plenty of fast enough, the 40-and-a-half inch vertical and the 10-and-a-half long jump. So it lets me know that you're explosive. You dropped 40? Yeah, well, I did a little bit in high school, but baseball is my main, my main second sport. Yeah. Okay, okay.
Starting point is 00:09:01 Hey, hey, what was it you like? Oh, so you are, you're Griffey. Yeah, that was my favorite, boy, that was my favorite player growing up, bro. I swear. Yeah, I was left-handed too. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Hey, hey, Seahill, you played four, you played four sports in high school? Yeah, I played football, baseball, basketball, track.
Starting point is 00:09:23 What did you running track? I just did the four by one. I only did it in my senior year, though, because, you know, this date, yeah, they're the same time in baseball season, track day the same time. But then like, so like we got knocked out of the playoffs early in baseball, my senior year. And so the track coach was like, somebody got hurt and they needed me to come run. And so shoot, I just ran the last leg on the four by one. What was y'all four by one time?
Starting point is 00:09:48 I can't remember the exact time, but we got runner up in state. So we did it pretty good. What are you from? I'm from, man. Oh, okay. I went to Eagles Land and Christian, the private school. Oh, okay. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
Starting point is 00:10:04 Hey, man, Georgia is a melting. I'm talking about, man, they got so much talent running out. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. I'd be trying to tell us, man. Georgia boys shoot. We different. Yeah, you hear that, Ocho? We're different.
Starting point is 00:10:17 I know. We're going to see when we late. Come on, bro. I mean, you, but this is a thing, though. You don't got my number. You don't got me on Instagram. You feel me? So I feel like you just talking.
Starting point is 00:10:26 You know what I'm saying? You got, go ahead. Follow me on Instagram. Hold on. Hold on. Hold on. We can lace it up. Think about this.
Starting point is 00:10:32 Hey, we have, we have your information. That's how you got on. Okay, so that's what I'm saying, though. Let's get it. Let's get it lined up. You know what I'm saying? Hold on. You in Kansas City.
Starting point is 00:10:40 When you back in Atlanta? Well, I'm going to be back home. I'll be back home. What, Wednesday? I'll be back home Wednesday. Okay. Wednesday, matter of fact, I don't even have nothing to do this week. I'm already in shape because I play soccer day.
Starting point is 00:10:51 So if you need me to come down to Atlanta. Come on. Come on. You got a camera man? You got a camera man? Yeah, I got a cameraman. Okay, okay, because you're not going out and talking to me. I'm telling you that right now.
Starting point is 00:11:02 That's what I do. Hey, this foot them head, hey, hey. I'm putting them hands on this change. That's what I'm going to do too long. Oh, that's what I'm going to do. Come on. Hold on. Hold on.
Starting point is 00:11:11 Hey, hey, listen. Hey, brotherhood, on all 85 of my kids, ain't nobody ever touched me off the line of scrimmings. I live for that. What we talk about? Listen, I ain't tell you no lie. I got my uniform out of the dry cleaners every Sunday with a crease in it. For a reason.
Starting point is 00:11:28 Hey, man. All right. I ain't going to do too much more talk. I told you what it is, what it ain't. You feel me? We just got to lace it up. Hold on. And you started,
Starting point is 00:11:36 you started to talk. You talking to a real trash talker. But physicality, you mentioned, like you like to press, physicality is kind of what you're known for. And I think the thing is that, look, a lot of people don't want to be physical anymore
Starting point is 00:11:52 because they're afraid of the initial surge of the wire receiver. These guys are really good. I mean, you look at it, you don't have to be dealing with Chase and Pooka Nacour and J.S.N. and Justin Jefferson. These guys are really, really good. But if you are what you believe you are, you can't let the name dictate how you play. A lot of times guys dictate, let the name dictate the type of coverage. Man, man, I don't know. No, no, no, no, no. You got have to have to have fear. Regardless who you go up against, you got to believe. Yeah, like, I ain't
Starting point is 00:12:20 going to lie. You're going to show me you better than me. I'm saying, like, like, if I'm going out there. I'm not, you feel me. I'm not thinking nobody, I think I'm the best thing out there. You know what I'm saying? So you want to show me. Like, my first ever start was against Terrell McMillan. He had to show me. And he ain't showed me. Hmm. I like that.
Starting point is 00:12:43 I like it. Through this whole process, what's been your biggest motivation? I would definitely say, like, my family, my parents, they sacrificed a lot for me. You know, just going up, just waking me up early and more than taking me to the hills. my dad would do that all the time. My mom, she worked hard. She work hard. She's a doctor. So she'd be up. I'll be seeing her up like 3 a.m.
Starting point is 00:13:03 doing charts and stuff like that. So definitely them. Like, I want to, you know, make life easier for them. You know, I think about them all the time. And then I always say my siblings, too. I got seven siblings. I got older brothers, three older brothers. And then five younger siblings, two younger sisters,
Starting point is 00:13:18 three, two younger sisters. Oh, man, four younger younger siblings. I have two younger sisters, two younger brothers. So just them. for real, like, send another example from my younger siblings, and then, you know, my oldest brother, he tore his ACL four times, so he didn't really get to live his dream. So I definitely want to, you know, go out there and, you know,
Starting point is 00:13:36 be able to allow him to live his dream vicariously through me for sure. Wow. Man, that's, that's unbelievable, man. Check the side, you say your brother tore his ACL four times. Did they find out what the imbalance was? Because there has to be an imbalance for you to tear your ACL. Yeah, I think it was... Whether it was the mechanics, whether it's hips,
Starting point is 00:13:54 was his hips on the line, his knee, his quads two dominant, hamstrings, two weak, two hamstrings two dominant, quads two weak. Did they find out what was wrong? What was causing it? I don't really know exactly. I know that after the first time he did his surgery and he tried to come back too fast and that caused the second time.
Starting point is 00:14:13 And then like once you get it like twice and it's just like, you know what I'm saying, everything's kind of out of whack, you know what I'm saying? Did they use a cadaver or did they partially take the patella? I don't know none of that. I don't know. Okay. Hey, hey, see, hood. Check this out.
Starting point is 00:14:32 I heard you talk about your family. Your pops. I read that, you know, he made you write down your goals at a young age. How were you when you started doing that? I was like, shoot. I was like eight years old, I think. Yeah, I was like eight years old. Me and my, he made me and my brother, like, make a vision board with like five year,
Starting point is 00:14:51 five year plan, ten year plan, 15 year plan, or 20 year plan. a 20 year plan. And so. How often, how often did you look at it? It was, it was in my bedroom in my wall. So it was like, every day I see it. Like it was in like on the wall. It was like a big poster board.
Starting point is 00:15:06 So it was like, you know, like those poster boys people take in from like school. Yeah. Like a big postage board of each part of the section had like my five year plan was here, 10 year, 15 year, 20 year. And every day I woke up, I'll see it. And that's dope, bro. You have to update that thing. I got you.
Starting point is 00:15:23 I got you. I'm for the still idea. I'm for the still idea for my younger kids. I like that. Yeah, yeah. That they're five, ten, year, 15 year, I like that. Yes, sir. You decided, like, when you get that first, when you get that first big check, what do you want to buy?
Starting point is 00:15:38 What do you want to do? Um, shoot, I ain't gonna lie. I'm pretty modest, I would say, like, I'm not really a big, I guess, spender. I do kind of want a new car, though, so if anything, I'll probably get into a new car. What you're getting? What you get? Hey, what we get? I don't even know yet, to be honest.
Starting point is 00:16:00 Like, I'm kind of all over. I don't know if I want to bans. I don't know what I want to be honest. I'm saying you had a need for speed. No, I'm not really, I like to be smooth. You know what I'm saying? Like, cool, just chilling type of. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:16:15 When you was growing up, when you was growing up, like, man, if I ever get some money. What was the first car did you say, man, if I ever get some money? Well, I'm not going to be able to get the car that I said, like, off my first contract. But the car I said out the first contract, though. Oh, hold on. You said something like boo. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:16:32 You're saying Halloween. I know you didn't say no Bugatti. It can be able to get that off the first contract. Hey, listen. Hey, who? I got a Bugatti. I think I got a Bugatti at least one for a year. I think I was in year seven.
Starting point is 00:16:47 I think maybe year of 708, if I'm not mistaken. And at least at least one, six months. Did it for six months. And I think I got fine. I tweeted on the sideline in the middle of the game. I got hit, I came to the sideline, and I tweeted that it's okay, guys, I'm okay. And the NFL fired me like 30 grand for that. And that was one of my payments.
Starting point is 00:17:07 And at that point, when the season ended, I said that, I said that bitch back. I said it back because, hey, we want to talk about an experience and doing some one time just to be able to say I did it. Yeah. And not getting caught up in the lifestyle and the image of having to keep it. I got you. Great experience. For sure.
Starting point is 00:17:29 Wow, man. Well, congratulations. Tell your family. I said hello. Congratulations on all your success. Remember now, you get into the NFL. That's not the end of your journey. Yeah, I got you.
Starting point is 00:17:38 Just the beginning. Yes, sir. Yeah, yeah, man. So congratulations, one Georgia boy, you're another man. Hey, keep doing what you do. Keep making a pride, bro. Hey, O-Sill. Hit my phone.
Starting point is 00:17:49 Hit my phone, bro. I got you. I got you. Hey, you know the saying. I get opening the phone. I say what you're going. All right. Hey, make sure you play the song.
Starting point is 00:18:03 Welcome to my food. Appreciate you, I appreciate John. Appreciate the guy. Have a good one. I'm John Green. You may know me as the author of The Fultonternar Stars. And now, I guess, also is the co-host of the away end, a brand new world.
Starting point is 00:18:20 soccer podcast. I'm Daniel Alarcon, a writer and journalist, and John and I have known each other since we were kids. My first World Cup was Mexico 86. I was nine years old. I watched every game, and I fell in love. On our new podcast, the away end, we'll share with you the magic of international football, all leading up to the 2026 World Cup. For us, soccer, football, is a story we've shared for over 30 years since Daniel was the star player on our high school soccer team. Very debatable. and I was their most loyal and sometimes only fan. I love this game. I love its history, it's hope, it's heartbreak, and above all, it's beauty.
Starting point is 00:18:59 Together, we'll find out why, of all the unimportant things, football, soccer, is the most important. Listen to the away end with Daniel Alarcon and John Green on the IHeart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. Hey, it's Edwin Castro, also known as Castro 1021. I'm Kunky, his best friend, and business manager. And we've got a new show called The 1021 Podcast. I'm taking you behind the scenes on how I became one of Twitch's most popular streamers. We also love sports. And with the World Cup right around the corner, we'll be breaking down the biggest
Starting point is 00:19:35 storylines ahead of the big tournament here in the USA. Listen to the 1021 podcast on the IHeart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. I'm Daniel Jeremiah. And I'm Greg Rosenthal. And this is 40s and free agents. The games may be over, but the NFL never stopped. This is my favorite part of the calendar.
Starting point is 00:20:02 Yeah, mine too, Greg. Free agency, the Combine, the NFL draft Pro Days, trades. This is where teams reshape their future. This is where Daniel Jeremiah makes his money. On 40s and free agents, we break down every move that actually matters. From my draft evaluations, mock drafts, and team fits. To my top 101 free agents and how real agents. rosters are built, cap space, contracts, and all the tough decisions included.
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Starting point is 00:20:42 Listen to 40s and free agents on the IHeart radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcast. Will Ferrell's Big Money Players And IHeart Podcast presents Soccer moms So I'm Leanne This is my best friend Janet And we have been joined At the Hips since high school
Starting point is 00:20:59 Now a redacted A amount of years later We're still joined at the hip Just a little bit bigger hips Wider This is a podcast We're recording it as we tailgate Our youth soccer games
Starting point is 00:21:09 In the back of my Honda Odyssey With all the snacks And drink Sidebar Why did you get hard seltzer Instead of beer Well they had a bogo Well then you got it
Starting point is 00:21:18 Do you want a white club There's something here. Just take it. Oh, what are y'all doing? Microphones? Are you making a rap album? Oh, I would. Come on. I would buy it. Cut through the defense like a hot knife through sponge cake.
Starting point is 00:21:32 That sounds delicious. Oh, you're lucky. I'm not a drug addict. You're lucky I'm not an alcoholic. You are. I'm not a killer. I love this team, and I'm really trying to be a figure in their lives that they can rely on. Oh. Listen to soccer moms on the IHeart Radio Avenue,
Starting point is 00:21:51 Apple Podcasts or wherever you get your podcasts. This is Julian Edelman, host of Games with Names. On our latest episode, we got comedian, Blake Anderson from Workaholics and The Hilarious. This is Important Podcast. Let's go. We did beat them in improv. You had an improv against the team? Yes.
Starting point is 00:22:08 We would pull up their schools would be there with signs for us. It's competition. What you would win is a bottle of gold slager. James Fester threw it out of a van because he didn't want us drinking it. For more games with names, visit. the IHeartRadio app or wherever you get your podcast. One of the remaining unanswered questions for the NFL this off season is whether Aaron Rogers will be back with the Steelers this fall.
Starting point is 00:22:34 The Steelers have indicated that they expect an answer before the draft gets underway on April 23rd, and it doesn't sound like he shared any hints with one of the team's top offensive players. Jalen Warren said he's not making any bets about whether Rogers will play or retire at this point. You know, I'm not really expecting anything. Whatever happens, happens. I'm rocking with whoever that quarterback at the quarterback position.
Starting point is 00:22:59 But if he comes back, great. If he does it, then we'll miss it. Hey, I know Aaron Rogers is loving this. I think any quarterback is loving this. We can have a team by the balls being for it, 42. Wait, how old is it? Yeah, 42. Yeah, 42.
Starting point is 00:23:14 Yeah, that sounds about right, Ocho. Yeah, you know, and this lets people know, those in the chat that are watching or those that are fans of the NFL game on how important the quarterback position is because they understand how valuable Aaron Roders is, even though he's not the same Aaron Roders of old.
Starting point is 00:23:29 The other options that you do have aren't the answer. They don't have no options. I mean, that too. Well, Will Howard is there. I'm not sure Will Howard is the answer for the foreseeable future, but I mean, Aaron Roders is Aaron Roders, even though he's not the same one. He still
Starting point is 00:23:45 gives you your best chance to win. I mean, he just does. That's why he can pull the shenanigans that he does. And you know what? I'll let you all know when I'm ready to come back. Knowing good and well, you know you're coming back. Why even play this game? But even if he's not, let them have an opportunity to go get somebody in free agency.
Starting point is 00:24:06 Ain't nobody to get. There was somebody. Maybe they want to make a trade for somebody, Ocho. No. Because they're making a trade for somebody. They're making a trade for somebody that. What about Kurt Cousins? Kirk Couss was available.
Starting point is 00:24:19 Where did Kirk go? Kirk signed somewhere. To Las Vegas. Oh, yeah, that's right. That's right. That's right. That's right. He's going to mentor Mendoza.
Starting point is 00:24:29 Maybe, hey, hey, he could have mentored Will Howard. Listen, I don't know why Aaron Rogers playing these games, but it is what it is. He did it last year. He's doing it again this year. And he'll probably do it again next year as well if the Steelers don't find, you know, his successor. He's going to keep doing it. You know the one team that he didn't do it with? Green Bay?
Starting point is 00:24:52 The Jets. The Jets said, now, we're good. Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah. AG wasn't playing that. No. Because he's done it. They've seen this for far too long. Even Green Bay.
Starting point is 00:25:03 Green Bay, Green Bay said, nah. But he should have known. He saw it play out with Roger. I mean, with Brett Favre. They got tired of playing Brett Farr's game. You thought because you want, he was a three-time league MVP, won a Super Bowl.
Starting point is 00:25:18 You thought they weren't going to get tired of your shenanigans? Oh, yeah. It's like they drafted you to replace him. Why do you think they drafted Jordan Love? This is it on the bench for the next 10 years? Yeah, you're right. But listen, this is the hard part. This is the hard part for the Steelers.
Starting point is 00:25:34 When Ben Rutherzberger was there, they didn't draft a George Love. They didn't draft anyone even as close because they didn't want to piss Ben off. Now you're fucking quarterback purgatory. Look at somebody else where you have to rely on a 42-year-old, 43-old quarterback to let you know when he wants to come back and let you know if he's going to come back. And if he does come back, what you got it for another year, and all you did is kick, all you did was kick the can down the road. And you're still having to address the issue,
Starting point is 00:25:58 which is finding your long-term quarterback for the future. Yep. All you did was delay it. It's like, hey, hey, man, look here, this tire. Well, we can patch it. They don't even patch tires anymore. But, hey, they put a little donut on. He did a little donut.
Starting point is 00:26:15 The donut tied the little donut tie? They say drive at a slow rate of speed, and you probably got 50, 60 miles, of distance in it. And then you see people drive around two, three weeks on that time. And then it wasn't. And when they put him down outside the road,
Starting point is 00:26:31 well, I don't know what happened. Well, what happened was this was a temporary fix. Yeah. No matter how great Aaron Rogers was, and he was great. He was historically great. Historically, yeah. He is a temporary fix for the Pittsburgh Steelers.
Starting point is 00:26:43 And if somebody sees them as anything other than that, they're sadly mistaken. If the Steelers, but I don't know why and because I don't know why teams are so afraid. You got to, I mean, especially when the quarterback get to like year 15-0-cho, come on now, man. We got to have, we got to start having serious
Starting point is 00:27:01 discussions. Right. About the future. There's really nothing to talk about. There's no discussion to be had. No, I'm talking about, as an organization, we got to have a serious discussion. I ain't discussing it with you. Right.
Starting point is 00:27:14 The hell? Hey. What decision your grandparents made that involved you? Hey, here's the list of what we think about by what you're in on this. Oh, here's what we think about putting in the house. Right. Grownups don't make no to you. My grandfather used to always say, boy, don't brash you with a child.
Starting point is 00:27:33 You tell the child what to do. Do. So at a situation like that, I'm not informing Aaron Rogers. I would say, look, now I will say this. So we don't get them all blindside because, you know, the most sensitive, the most sensitive players on a football field are the quarterbacks. Always. Okay.
Starting point is 00:27:55 We're at agreement. Always. We're looking to draft the quarterback. How high is to determine whether or not somebody falls. But I say within the first three rounds, we're going to take a quarterback. Boom, that's it. That's it. You're going to piss him off.
Starting point is 00:28:15 That's all right. He'd be okay. He still want to cast him checks. Because guess what? You don't imagine if Green Bay didn't have a Jordan love. how pissed off they would be. Woof. Look at the team that waited.
Starting point is 00:28:37 Look at what Miami did because they didn't have a succession plan with Danny. Yeah. And they didn't have a succession plan. And so everybody doesn't have a Green Bay situation where you go Bradford, Aaron Rogers, Jordan Love.
Starting point is 00:28:51 That's luck. But that's because choice. Mm-hmm. They didn't have a choice, Ocho. Brett kept jockeying them around. Aaron Rogers, well, I'm thinking about retired, I don't know, you know, I just want to be in a quiet, dark room. Right.
Starting point is 00:29:05 And I just, you know, so I, and so the team didn't have a choice. They got tired of that. Yes. And that's the only position, depending on who you are, where you could play them damn games like that. Yeah, you, you ain't, you ain't playing that game in no other position. They get you, they get you up out of there. I don't care how great you are.
Starting point is 00:29:24 Other than that guy? Yeah. That position, not a said, not he said guy, that guy. because first of all, you're going to be that guy to play those type of games. No average guy ain't playing those type of games. No. But to be that guy, and you know you have the leeway,
Starting point is 00:29:39 you are an MVP or you've won MVP or you're that level of quarterback, you get a lot of leeway. A lot of leeway that are other players and other positions don't get. No. But I understood that. I didn't know that. I didn't take advantage of it. No.
Starting point is 00:29:58 I didn't take advantage of it. of it. Quarterbacks have a privilege and the star players have a privileges and I'm like you. I didn't take advantage of it. No.
Starting point is 00:30:08 That's the whole part of being a leader is not taking advantage of the privilege that you've been given. Oh, Aaron. Well, you know, you're coming back, man, because if he decides
Starting point is 00:30:20 not to come back, oh my goodness. Boy, they're going to be in a heap of trouble over there. Yeah, they're going to be in a heap of trouble. But it's our own fault. Because when they could have did something about this,
Starting point is 00:30:37 they saw Ben wasn't the same guy. He had taken too much punishment. And he was starting to slow down. You saw it right before your eyes, but not to tick him off. Okay, he's still happy when they ain't really replaced me. Now look at you. Dang.
Starting point is 00:30:56 Pending all your hopes on a 42-year-old that probably by this is his last year. Yeah. Or you might try to keep hitting, might try to keep hitting them one for ones because you have to think about it. No, I'm moving on. I'm moving on after this year. I've got to find me a long-term fix, Ocho.
Starting point is 00:31:15 Where's the long-term fix, huh? If I got to go into the draft, then draft one. Man, I got me. I feel you. I feel you. So what? Just keep going. So just keep going these one-year deals with Aaron Rogers and not get the future.
Starting point is 00:31:34 And then when he decides to retire, what about, where am I? Hey, you find that successor now. You go into the draft. You can't. That's what I'm saying. Yeah, but ain't nothing. Franchise quarterback? Have we seen anything like that?
Starting point is 00:31:50 Look. Just because you don't think a guy right now looks like that. Ocho, I got to try. Right. You seen Air Rogers at Cal? Yes. He looked like that. You've seen Pat Mahomes at Texas Tech?
Starting point is 00:32:05 He looked like that. Let me ask you a question. If they'd have brought Aaron Rogers in right away immediately and played him, how do you think he'd looking? I'm John Green. You may know me as the author of The Fault and Our Stars and now, I guess also is the co-host of The Away End, a brand new world soccer podcast.
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Starting point is 00:33:38 ahead of the big tournament here in the USA. Listen to the 1021 podcast on the IHeart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. I'm Daniel Jeremiah. And I'm Greg Rosenthal. And this is 40s and free agents. The games may be over, but the NFL never stopped. This is my favorite part of the calendar.
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Starting point is 00:35:00 at the hips since high school. Absolutely. Now a redacted amount of years later, we're still joined at the hip, just a little bit bigger hips, wider. This is a podcast.
Starting point is 00:35:08 We're recording it as we tailgate our youth soccer games in the back of my Honda Odyssey. With all the snacks and drink. Sidebar. Why did you get hard seltzer instead of beer? Oh, they had a bogo. Well, then you got it. Do you want a white color or something here? Just a second.
Starting point is 00:35:22 What are y'all doing? Microphones? Are you making a rap album? Oh, I would. How did you move? I would buy it. Cuts through the defense like a hot knife through sponge cake. That sounds delicious.
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Starting point is 00:36:04 This is important podcast. Let's go. We did beat them in improv. You had an improv against the team? Yes. We would pull up their schools would be there with signs for us. It's competition. What you would win is a bottle of gold slover.
Starting point is 00:36:18 James Fester threw it out of a van because he didn't want us drinking it. For more games with names, visit the Iheart Radio app or wherever you get your podcast. Nah, it's a good thing he sat behind Brit. Exactly. And my homeboy, my homeboy, sometimes it's great to come in and get a bird's eye view and see how people do think, how that position. is played how you're supposed to play the position. And who don't? Maybe Aaron Rogers is still that guy.
Starting point is 00:36:47 But I think he benefited from having an opportunity to sit behind Bradford for three years and learn. I think my homeboy had an opportunity to sit behind Alex Smith for a year and learn. Some guys, hey, they get to sit. Carson got to sit. Yeah. But they make it too much money now. They're not letting somebody sit.
Starting point is 00:37:06 Yeah. The rookies are making too much money, especially if you draft them high, anything pick one through five is not sitting. We paying you, what, 30, 35? Probably 40 billion. You're probably 40, 40 plus million dollars be guaranteed this year. They throwing your ass out there to the sharks.
Starting point is 00:37:22 You better figure it out because I'm paying your money, not sit down and sit behind a veteran quarterback. Absolutely not. Yeah. You're right. You're right. And it's ruining them because you saw it did Anthony Richardson? Ooh, yeah.
Starting point is 00:37:37 He was a top five pick. You said he was a top five pick. the project. And instead of developing in that project, building that project with a strong foundation, you threw him out there. Yeah. There's no patience. They want instant gratification. These owners and gems want instant
Starting point is 00:37:51 gratification and instant success right away, especially if we pick you high. You're the person supposed to change our franchise. That's why we went and got you. You are our answer. You are our future. You are our 10-year future. We don't have to worry by any position. we're supposed to build around you.
Starting point is 00:38:10 That's basically what it means. It does. But have you set me up for success? What do you look like from an offensive line standpoint? What do my receivers look like from a receiver standpoint? What is the system or the coaches? Have you set me up to success with the structure in which I'm going to be in? Most of the time, no.
Starting point is 00:38:32 Right. No. They just think guys are supposed to come in. Everybody, everybody and Andrew Reed, Everybody doesn't, everybody doesn't, because in order to do some things, you have to have solid footing. Kyle Shannon has, how many quarterbacks you think could have made that, and you give up all those draft picks for the number three pick in the draft, and he gone after a year? Oh, Trey Lance.
Starting point is 00:39:00 Yeah. So you got to have strong footing in order to do that. Right. I mean, you think about it. You take, you got Alex Smith. When's the playoff game? And then you're like, you know what? Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Starting point is 00:39:18 We take it a quarter. I mean, Alice Smith has played well. But Andy just felt this office could be so much more dynamic if I had a stronger-armed quarterback. And those are the decisions that you have to make. See, it's not that it's a lot of times it's those decisions that really define GM, head coaches and things like that. tough decisions.
Starting point is 00:39:42 Right. But you win a Joe, you're like, man, hey, we winning, we winning 10, 11 games a year. But there's something
Starting point is 00:39:49 that's deep inside of you, say, we can be so much more, though. And seven AFC championship games later, five Super Bowl appearances later, three wins later,
Starting point is 00:40:03 it's hard to argue. It's hard to argue. And so, we'll see what they do, but I think they have to. I think the Steelers going to have to get a quarterback. Now, maybe you're right. Maybe they believe in Will Howard.
Starting point is 00:40:19 Mm-hmm. But they believe in Cody Pickett. And they believed in Mason Rudolph. Okay. With A.J. Brown future uncertain. The Philadelphia Eagles had added to their receiving core head of the 2026 draft, Ocho. The Eagles are sitting Green Bay Packers, a 2026 fifth round pick,
Starting point is 00:40:43 and a 2027 sixth round pick in exchange for Dante Wix. Wix, who's going into the final year of his rookie contract, will reportedly sign a one-year contract extension for $12.5 million. Wicks, 25, was the fifth round draft picking 2023 draft. During his three seasons with the Green Bay Packers, WIC has caught 108 passes on 180 targets, 13128 yards, 11 touchdown, and averages 12.3 yards per catch. I mean, the rightness on the wall.
Starting point is 00:41:19 Can we see it now? Maybe it's in hieroglyphics. The writing is on the wall. I mean, it's been that way. It's been that way. And I said it last year. I said it during the season. I said it in the offseason.
Starting point is 00:41:35 Anytime we do talk about it, you know, the Eagles are planning to make a move. And there's a certain situation that's going on and people are talking about integrity and talk about ethics and talk about this person. I mean, blah, blah, blah. And listen, nobody moved the needle or make decisions outside of the GM and the owner.
Starting point is 00:41:54 They are not influenced by anybody else. And nobody. You and Ocho talking about it. You and this person talking about it. Yes, the media. Man, you think the owner's giving down what the media say? They don't care.
Starting point is 00:42:07 They don't care what me or Ocho or what anybody say. They're going to do what they're going to do. Always. Always. I mean, we talk about franchise. We talk about billion-dollar entities. You really think anyone outside of that has influence on their decision-making.
Starting point is 00:42:24 Like, come on, let's be serious, people. Come on. They don't even let the players that's playing for them influence what the hell they do. How are they going to let somebody outside the building that's not even inside the building influence it? Come on, man. But outside of that, I mean, it's been enough.
Starting point is 00:42:38 I think it's time to move on. I think AJ doesn't want to be there. We've seen enough of that. He was frustrated this season. The second year in a row, he was frustrated even after he won the Super Bowl. frustrated. So he's even frustrated, more frustrated now, because guess what?
Starting point is 00:42:54 He see what those guys doing. He said, Chase don't miss a bead. He said, JSC and then come on now. Look at Pooka. Man, DeBonte Adams come over there to a whole new team. Yeah. And lead the league in touchdown, passing. Somehow, all these great guys, these coordinators
Starting point is 00:43:10 can find ways, and their quarterback can find ways, I call a play, and they can get me the ball. Somehow here, we still haven't found a way to consistently get me the ball. Now, I ain't putting it on nobody. I'm not saying it's the coordinator. I'm not saying it's the quarterback. But all I do know is that I play a dependent position and I'm dependent on my quarterback and my coordinator putting me in the situation and the other guy throwing me the
Starting point is 00:43:31 ball. And I bet damn if we can't do that consistently. Yeah. I mean, I understand. He was, I mean, frustrated, frustrated. Yeah, for sure. Here before that, he was reading the book to keep himself calm. Yeah. So this year, I mean, same thing again. So that's two years in a row. You think he can go sit around for a third year of the same? Absolutely not. It got so bad that the owner had a conversation with him.
Starting point is 00:43:58 And people like to say that, that got out. Had it not gotten out, how would you have known that Jeffrey Lurie and A.J. had a conversation. Somebody always leaking it, huh? Of course. But it had gotten to the point that Mr. Lurie
Starting point is 00:44:18 didn't, it was, felt some type a way about it. Probably said, you know what, AJ, hey, let's try to make the most of the best of this situation, what we have currently. I understand your frustrations. How is explained it to me, X, Y, and Z. He don't know no plays, but anyway,
Starting point is 00:44:36 how he's explained it to me? Yeah. And let's try to make the most of this season, and then after the year we'll try to make a decision that works both, that works best for both of us. Yeah. I think this is the second move. I think they've made at the receiving position,
Starting point is 00:44:53 if I'm not mistaken. Even with A.J. Brown not there. I think they'll be able to make up for some of the production, maybe not all of it. But the Eagles will still be a dominant team. They still, in the NFCEs. Wait, no, it is NFCEs, ain't it? NFCs.
Starting point is 00:45:13 Yeah, in Dallas, Washington, and the Eagles. Eagles, yeah. They still going to make their head. They still going to do what they want to do. but, I mean, A.J. Brown, he just, he needs a change of scenery. I said long ago, before, although you know what was going on, I said it would be the Patriots. I said it would be very well because of the situation in the relationship that they had when he was in Tennessee. So it just made the most sense, him going to New England.
Starting point is 00:45:43 So, hey, we'll see what happens June 1st or is it June 20th? June 1st. Yeah, June 1st. that way you can spread it out over two years. Yes. And the cap here is not as significant as it is. Right. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:45:56 So I look, I just think the thing is, oh, Cho, we've been talking about it. I just think everybody, everybody just want to just move on, want a fresh start. Mm-hmm. It's okay. There are irreconcilable differences, and we choose the part on amicable terms. Yeah. Not a bad thing. irreconcilable differences
Starting point is 00:46:21 and the split is amicable. I don't know. Them boys good, though, man. Them boys good. I ain't happy. Have you seen the situation? Oh, I'm telling you, how have we seen men and women in a situation?
Starting point is 00:46:38 They got everything. Fly private and you got diamonds and you get cars, you get XYZ, and I'm just not happy. Yeah, it happens. All that at the end of the day, what about my happiness? I mean, hey, no crying from the yacht, but hey, some people, it happens.
Starting point is 00:47:00 It does. You can get everything you ask for, and it's still not enough. Not enough. Fly, eagles, fly. I don't know the rest of the song, but I love that thing. I just won't look. I just hope AJ gets somewhere he could be, they give him an opportunity to play like he thinks he can play. and then go from there.
Starting point is 00:47:22 Because right now, he's not happy. No. And I don't think he's the best he can be. And it's hard to be when you don't know. I mean, you go from one game you might catch nine, the next ball you might get three balls thrown at you and catch one. Mm-hmm.
Starting point is 00:47:38 It's hard to play like that. You know, in basketball, you're going to practice two hours out of the day. You got the rest of the day to yourself to chill game night on the road. I don't give a damn what it is. We ain't got to stay in the hotel. You know what I mean? Yeah. You might got a little something, something come through.
Starting point is 00:47:57 Yeah, yeah. Oh, oh, before the game, Joe? Hey, man, you got to get it how you live on. We're in different cities almost every other night, man. God. Joe, for real? Man, I'm just saying, I don't see and act like it ain't, you know, it ain't easy now, you know. I mean, I ain't, I ain't know, Joe.
Starting point is 00:48:14 I ain't never did nothing like that, but go ahead. I'm just saying, you know, hey. Not the day, I mean, maybe the night before the game, not the day of the game, Joe. You ain't tried to do that like that before the game. before the game, be the jokes. I'm saying, if I'm in the city for only one night, you know what I mean? I ain't coming back.
Starting point is 00:48:29 We only play this team one time and they build it. Well, you know, like Luther Andrews say, if only for one night. Damn, Joe. Y'all don't. Not that I think about it. That is a whole lot of cities. 82 games.
Starting point is 00:48:46 Man, listen, listen, they won't do no room check. They won't do none of that. Y'all don't do no room check. I don't have no curfew. Joe, you only got no curfew? Nah, hell, my. Only person is going to be room checking you is your damn girlfriend or your wife.
Starting point is 00:48:59 That's it. Damn. Oh, Lord. Have mercy. I ain't know that, Joe. Man, they got security on the hall by the elevator and the doze. Hey, you better be in your room by 11 o'clock.
Starting point is 00:49:10 No, I'm just keeping. They got coming out of chump, coming by checking their rooms. No. Now, you know, guys might be in the room playing video games or playing cars or something like that. But there ain't nobody, ain't no, no. Man, I got like, for instance, like it's cities that, you know, you go to, you know people.
Starting point is 00:49:26 I ain't necessarily saying it's just, you know, females. I'm saying you might know some cats you went to school with, high school with, college with, and you know you only go, hey, man, we go out, we get something to eat. Let's go bowling. Let's go do something. Like, it's this. I ain't trying to see nobody I went to high school with you, you know, thing. Hey, hold on, you ain't double back on nothing you went to high school with?
Starting point is 00:49:47 No. Well, you know, everybody you go to high school with, like, maybe, after, you know, the year, by the time you made it, they didn't got kind of big, Joe. No, no, not early in your career, Ocho. You know what I'm saying? It may be something in high school, you know, you thought was nice. You ain't touch at high school, so you're like, hold on. Nah, Joe, everything nice and high school and got a little fluffy.
Starting point is 00:50:08 They're a little bell pepper, Joe. That's 10 years. That's your 10-year reunion. That's 10 years. But two, three years removed from high school, man, please. Joe, think about this, Joe. Think about this. And I'm sure if people in the chat could have tested.
Starting point is 00:50:21 to this. Those that was fine as hell, they used to be, oh, they was, they was them, you know, as far as female. They don't, it don't be that years down the line, Joe. I'm saying 10, 15 years down the line, they may not be like that, but you still, you're still going to have, you're going to have a few, Ocho, they're going to really take care of themselves and keep theirself up. I don't know where y'all, what y'all are from, you know what y'all got going, what school y'all went to, but where I'm from? Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. I'm just telling you, everybody gets, you know, get a little healthy, little weight on
Starting point is 00:50:51 You know, ain't nothing wrong with that. I'm just saying it's never what it used to be. That's not how I remember you in high school. Man. He was that one. Like, I couldn't wait to come out in the hallway and see you walk by because you was that one. Yeah. You know, I mean, eh.
Starting point is 00:51:08 I get what you saying, Ocho, but there is a few, bro. There's a few. Look, you know, because, you know, like in high school, they may be a little slim. You know what I mean? Two, three years. out of high school, they gained a little weight, good weight. Right. You know what I'm talking about?
Starting point is 00:51:26 Yeah, I feel you. I mean, I ain't really seen nothing like that, Joe. Most of the time you graduate, then they had two, three kids, and, you know, they'd be a little bell pepper, Joe. Not all of them over time. Yeah, I mean, maybe not where you from. I'm talking about down here, Miami. And Joe, I hate to go against you, but what you're right.
Starting point is 00:51:44 Oh, right, oh, different. Yeah, hey, I'm telling you. Look, two, three years out of high school, let's say you. in Savannah State, you were junior in college. You mean to tell me there ain't no girls in high school that you didn't see in or you'd be like, boy, look. I ain't backtrack in high school. You didn't? Nope.
Starting point is 00:52:02 I mean, I ain't acting like I did. I'm just, you know, I'm just saying. I'm just saying, I ain't acting like I did. I'm just saying. But, hey, oh, Joe, Joe, I saw, hey, I saw big things in their future in high school. I'm talking about, you know, a job promotion. I saw big things on the horizon. Just saying.
Starting point is 00:52:21 Hey, Joe, now you got me thinking I'm trying to think who was, who was that? Oh, Joe, you're from Florida, boy, I know y'all got some, what? No way. I'm trying to think who was, who was the it person? Oh, Joe, they was having babies. I mean, a lot of them had babies while we were in school. Yeah, I mean, the youngest was 13.
Starting point is 00:52:42 She got pregnant at like 13. I think she had a kid at 14. She got pregnant in seventh grade, had the baby in the eighth grade. Damn. I ain't know how old. You in the eighth grade? Eight grade, 13, 14? I had some girls in my elementary who was pregnant in sixth grade.
Starting point is 00:52:58 How? Yeah. Joe, what, Joe, we, oh, you know what? You at there in Arkansas. Okay, yeah, yeah. Yeah, project girls, yeah, yeah. Yeah, I'm like, oh, no, no, no, no, no, Joe, that was it. Yeah, so hold on, hold on.
Starting point is 00:53:14 You ain't had no pretty girls in high school, bro. They were pretty in high school. Yeah, right? I went to college for four years. That was high school, that four years ago. And you mean telling me all the prettiness gone from... Yeah. I wasn't interested.
Starting point is 00:53:28 You weren't interested then. Yeah. Now you interested now. Hey, listen, they always interested after what they choose don't work out. Exactly. You wanted to go out of drink and smoke weed. You ain't want me. Hey, but look, hold on.
Starting point is 00:53:42 Hey, now you want me two, three kids later? But hold on, hold on, you're a little more experience now. What, you ain't trying to want you? You ain't trying to white for? No, I'm good. What are we trying to do, Joe? May I let me tell y'all something. At Little Rock Central, where I went to high school at?
Starting point is 00:53:58 Let me tell you y'all something. We had all the pretty girls at Central, bro. Like, if you went to another high school in Little Rock before our bell rang when school was out, you see dudes driving through there. You hear me? Damn! Yeah, dudes come through that.
Starting point is 00:54:12 A lot of the girls that I went to high school, especially the pretty ones, they probably dated somebody to a day. different school. You know what I mean? Yeah. But we had them, boy. We had them. You hear me? Well, we didn't. Damn. I mean, hey, Joe, I think we had them too, Joe. I mean, it's Miami, you know? I mean, it's a melting pot. Of course. Everyone is gorgeous, but things change in a short amount of time by the time you graduate to four years later. So, um, you ain't had like no little skinny girl in high school and then two, three years later, she gained some good weight. Yeah, I'm, I'm saying,
Starting point is 00:54:48 I mean, Joe, me, my high school, my girlfriend in high school, when we broke up, I had my girlfriend in college, I ain't looked bad. I ain't mess with nobody from. All right, okay. And now you got me thinking, I wonder where the people are going to stop. I'm trying to think college is a different story. College something else, boy. Who, law. I'm trying.
Starting point is 00:55:21 Joe, Joe, you got me. Joe, you got me thinking, Joe, and I tell a story. Yeah, hey. You got me thinking, Joe. What I got you thinking about? And now I'm trying to, I'm trying to think back who was fine back in high school and I wonder where they're at and what they're doing now. And what do they look like now after all the way?
Starting point is 00:55:38 You ain't worried about nobody right now. You might have been worried about them when you got out of college, when you got an Oregon state you're going to leave. I'm just saying the fact that we were on the topic, huh? That's all. The fact to be on the topic is like, it's jogging the mirror. I'm like, damn, I wonder where so-and-so at from 1995, 1996. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:55:53 That's all. Hey, man, I had this one boy. Hey, she went to a rival high school. Boy, she was so fine. Ooh. Like that? What? What's her name, aunt?
Starting point is 00:56:07 I ain't tell it. We might be able to find him. I know where she is. My sister's see her all the time. Oh, for real? Yeah. Hey, you looking for her. Okay, my bad.
Starting point is 00:56:21 She's still fine? He didn't want to say, man. She's pushing 60. He, uh, that might be, that might be the one. No, man. We broke up. What you did it wrong? I didn't do nothing wrong.
Starting point is 00:56:35 You just said y'all broke up. We did. What, 98% of the time it's the man poor. See, if I tell the story, everybody going to know who it is and I don't want people to know who it is. I don't want to put a business out there. Okay, okay, okay, okay, my bad, my bad. Hold on, the people you went to high school go, no? Everybody goes, yes.
Starting point is 00:56:52 Oh, wait, hold on, y'all was together and it was private? Hey, no, hey, man, look at your man. You know what I'm saying? You know. Oh, you were creepy? You know what I'm saying? I had paddy feet. Okay, I got you.
Starting point is 00:57:07 I got you. I got you. I got you. You know, we quietly broke up and, uh, yeah, I know, man. I ain't going to lie. I ain't going to lie. Some of the best times of my life, bro. I'm keeping it real with you, I was at high school, bro.
Starting point is 00:57:25 Oh, yeah. High school was fun, bro. Bro. College, college, when I got to college, I could see my dreams right in front of me, meaning like the NBA, I was so focused that it wasn't nothing going to throw me off my pivot. Same thing in high school, but in high school, I had so much fun because I went to high school with a lot of cats who I really grew up with. High school was fun, bro. You threw caution to the wind. Boy, I am so glad there ain't no way I could have survived with social media now in high school
Starting point is 00:57:55 with the... Man, what you talking about? Hey, with the access and over exposure? Hey, what you're talking about? No, sir. Hey, listen. Because when I was in high school, boy, you had to go check, you got to go home and check that call ID
Starting point is 00:58:09 to see who calls you. You know what I'm saying? Joe, what you know about that call ID, Joe? Well, hey, Ocho, I should be, I go straight home and check it, trying to see if, hey, let me see if she hit me up or something. Let me see what going on. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:58:24 But that was a good old day. You're fine, oh, you're talking about, oh, I'm talking about stack. I'm talking about the girl that body, body. Hmm. Okay, hey, because, because, you know, when you're in high school, they're fine for no reason. They ain't got to work out of nothing. Hey, hey, hey, what's up? Right.
Starting point is 00:58:44 Yeah, yeah, you, you, you, you, you with me for a minute. Man, let me stop. I get myself up great. Let me go loose weed, loose week. I'm Daniel Alarcon. and this is my friend. This is much more famous than I am. I wouldn't go that far,
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