Nightcap - BEST OF NFL Week 18 Part 1: SACK KING Myles Garrett, Matt Stafford vs Drake Maye MVP Debate

Episode Date: January 7, 2026

Shannon Sharpe and Chad "Ochocinco" Johnson give you the best of NFL 18! Unc and Ocho react to Myles Garrett breaking the NFL sack record, initial reaction to the playoff matchups, who deserves MVP mo...re? Matt Stafford or Drake Maye? Don't miss the wild NFL recap with the best in the business! Subscribe to Nightcap presented by PrizePicks so you don’t miss out on any new drops! Download the PrizePicks app today and use code SHANNON to get $50 in lineups after you play your first $5 lineup! Visit https://prizepicks.onelink.me/LME0/NI... 0:00 - Broncos Clinch No. 1 Seed11:59 - Eagles sit starters, drop a seed21:10 - Giants vs Cowboys27:47 - Matt Stafford vs Drake Maye MVP battle35:56 - Seahawks Clinch No. 1 Seed57:57 - Jags clinch AFC South1:08:14 - Myles Garrett Breaks sack record (Timestamps may vary based on advertisements.) #ClubSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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Starting point is 00:01:54 The Bronco, security of the AMC, top seat in the playoffs and the AFC, thanks to a 1913 victory over the charges of the Bronco to 14 and 3, tied the franchise record for the most victory. than a regular season and earned their first number one playoff seed since 2015, the year they parlayed that into a Super Bowl. Guess where the Super Bowl was held at that year? You guessed it.
Starting point is 00:02:13 Levi Stadium and San Francisco. Bo Nix had one of his worst games of the season, throwing for just 38 yards in the first half, and 148, 141 yards overall. But he tied Russell Wilson record, 24 wins in his first two seasons, helping the Bronco grind out, another tough win. And now the season truly starts, right?
Starting point is 00:02:36 Riley Moss, you win or you go home. So the stakes are high and we're going to be ready to roll in two weeks. Broncos host their playoff game and host their first home playoff game in a decade, which could be the Chargers, 11 and 6th if they'll beat the Patriots at New England and the wild car game. Look, I get it. Nobody really wanted to show their hands. But even if you don't show your hand, guess what I want to do, Ocho? I want to execute.
Starting point is 00:03:04 What? Yeah. Just because you don't show your hand, that doesn't mean you lack execution. They look bad. And think about it, the Chargers didn't play any of their starters offensively or defensively. Right. And still kicked you. They won't worry about this, huh?
Starting point is 00:03:26 They won't worry about this. I guarantee you. It wasn't nothing but a poker face. It didn't matter. How many sacks did the Broncos season on? Did they have, what, 65? They didn't break the record. The record is 72.
Starting point is 00:03:44 I think by the 84 Bears had four sacks today. Nick Benito had 68. They're four short. Damn. Nick Benito ends with 14. Zach Allen. But, you know, we rest up on your get ready. Who is we?
Starting point is 00:04:18 The Broncos. Vikings, Cruz fast, Fast, resting Parker, 16. three for the fifth straight win as McCarthy exit again with an injury. J.J. McCarthy had a productive first half before he was injured again. He missed seven games and parts of two others, multiple
Starting point is 00:04:34 injuries after knee surgery to wipe out his rookie season. McCarthy was 14 to 23, 182 yards, left early in the third quarter with soreness in his throwing hand. Back up Max Brosmer took it from there, helping Justin Jefferson reach the 100 yard mark for the first time in
Starting point is 00:04:50 12 games as the Vikings finished the season 9 and 8 and they coasted to the fifth consecutive victory. Jetta also started his career, six straight 1,000-yard seasons. Only Randy Moss and Mike Evans have been able to do that. J.J. McCarthy, 14 to 23, 182,
Starting point is 00:05:10 Max Bosmer, 7 of 8, 57 yards. They ran the ball 31 times for 137. Jetta, eight catches 103 yards. Jalen Naylor, 3 for 49. But they win. Green Bay rested everybody. They better come ready to play.
Starting point is 00:05:30 You got to. You got to. And I think they will be ready to play. Offensively. Yes. They got the Bears, Ocho. They got a very familiar opponent. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:05:41 You know how those games go. Yep. Ocho, we got the final segment of the evening. It's time for our final segment. It's time for Q and A. Boy, it's almost 2 o'clock. I got work at 5 o'clock. Ocho, Lord Byron underscore
Starting point is 00:06:02 Double deuce. Should the Giants pursue John Harbour if the Raven decide to part ways? Absolutely. He's a very good coach. But I think his voice is a little stale in that locker room. Georgia Parade.
Starting point is 00:06:22 Justin Tucker would have never. Probably not. Justin Tucker, every big postseason field goal, he's made. But, I mean, you can understand the situation, given the circumstances and what was transpired. You understand the Ravens moving on. Why do the Steelers get higher seed than the Texans? Makes no sense because they won the division.
Starting point is 00:06:53 The division matters. Your team didn't win the division. That's how it works. I know they're trying to say, well, the team that wins the most game, but there should be value placed on winning the division. Also, the Lions beat the playoff-bound Bears 1916, Vates, 42-yard field goal as time expired. Jerry Golf and Detroit Lions entered the season as their sights on the Super Bowl.
Starting point is 00:07:19 Now they're missing the playoff. It's frustrating, Coach Dan Campbell said. So that's what fused you. We don't want to be doing that again next year. That's not where we want to be. we've got to get in. Remember a couple years ago, there's the NFC championship game.
Starting point is 00:07:37 They lost the divisional game. They lost the NFC championship game to the 49ers. They lost the divisional round when they're the number one seed to the commanders. And then this year they completely missed the postseason. Yeah. But obviously, they had too many injuries on. They had too many injuries defensively.
Starting point is 00:07:55 Obviously, when you had that many injuries, you have to be on point offensively. You can't put the ball in harm's way. Jerry golf has had some games where we turned the ball over but the offense sputtered they didn't look like they've always looked obviously called Dan Campbell going forward and being very what's the word of looking for? Being very aggressive.
Starting point is 00:08:13 He had 11 bucks. Jerry golf with 37 to 42, 331, one touchdown, one interception. Jemir Gibbs 19 for 80. Armand Rosset Brown, Ocho, 11 catches, a buck 39, no touchdown. Jameson Williams, 6 for 74, no touchdown. Kaleef Raymond, 3.5. 52, Jemir Gives 3 for 30. Y'all don't listen to me.
Starting point is 00:08:34 I keep telling y'all, do not let the back cross your face. Ocho, how many times have we seen Jemir Gives scored touchdown on that Texas route where he causes the linebacker's face? Yeah, every time. They think I'm just making this up.
Starting point is 00:08:50 And that's a mismatch too, huh? Ain't really no backer going to be able to do anything with him anyway. What do you tell, what do they tell you, what do we always, as a an offensive player, what do we say we've got to cross the defender's face. As a defender,
Starting point is 00:09:06 what is the defensive coordinator to tell of you? Don't let what happen, Ocho. Don't let him cross your face. I be a damn. Son, sometimes I tell you, your brains with dynamite, you couldn't blow your nose. Jeez.
Starting point is 00:09:27 Caleb Williams finished the regular season, 20 or 33, 212, two touchdowns, one of the exceptions. They didn't run the ball particularly well. I think that coming into the game, there was a third best rushing team in the league. But today, the Lions held him in check. 18 carries 65 yards.
Starting point is 00:09:45 Colston Loveland, 10 catches, 91 yards of a touchdown. Jayne. Excuse me, Walker, two catches, 36 yards, a touchdown. Luther Burton, the third. Three catches, 35 yards. Cole Khamette, one catch. He did catch a two-point conversion. But if I'm not mistaken, I think Caleb Williams finished the season with the
Starting point is 00:10:07 most passing yards in Bears history. Am I correct? They still, they're the only team in NFL history, Ocho, that have yet to have a quarterback pass for 4,000 yards. But if I'm not mistaken, I think Caleb Williams has the most passing. Ocho, the Lions beat the playoff-bound Bears 1916, baits, 42-yard field goal as time expired. Jerry golf and Detroit Lions entered the season as their sights on the Super Bowl.
Starting point is 00:10:33 Now they're missing the playoff. It's frustrating, Coach Dan Campbell said. So that's what fuels you. Well, we don't want to be doing that again next year. That's not where we want to be. We've got to get in. Remember a couple years ago, there's the NFC championship game. They lost the divisional game.
Starting point is 00:10:52 They lost the NFC championship game to the 49ers. They lost the divisional round when they're the number one seed to the commanders. And then this year, they completely missed the postseason. Yeah. Obviously, they had too many injuries on. had too many injuries defensively. Obviously, when you had that many injuries, you have to be on point offensive.
Starting point is 00:11:12 You can't put the ball in harm's way. Jerry Golf has had some games where you turn the ball over, but the offense sputtered. They didn't look like they've always looked. Obviously, Don Campbell going forward and being very, what's the word I'm looking for? Being very aggressive. Jerry Golf was 27 to 42,
Starting point is 00:11:30 331, one touchdown, one interception. Jermere Gibbs 19 for 80. Armand Ross St. Brown, Ocho, 11 catches, a buck 39, no touchdown. Jameson Williams, 6 for 74, no touchdown. Khalif Raymond, three for 52, Jemir Gibbs, three for 30. Y'all don't listen to me. I keep telling y'all, do not let the bat cross your face. Ocho, how many times have we seen Jemir Giff scored touchdown on that Texas route
Starting point is 00:11:56 where he causes the linebacker's face? Yeah, every time. They think I'm just making this up? Hey, that's a mismatch too, uh, ain't, ain't really no backer going to be able to do anything with him anyway. What do you tell, what do they tell you, what do they, what do we always, as an offensive player, what do we say, we've got to cross the defender's face. As a defender, what is the defensive coordinator telling you? Don't let what happen, Ocho. Don't let him cross your face.
Starting point is 00:12:25 I be damn. Son, sometimes I tell you, it brains with dynamite you couldn't blow your nose. Jeez. Caleb Williams finished the regular season, 20 or 33, 212, two touchdowns, one of the exceptions. They didn't run the ball particularly well. I think that coming into the game, there was the third best rushing team in the league. But today, the Lions held them in check, 18 carries 65 yards,
Starting point is 00:12:58 Colston Loveland, 10 catches, 91 yards of a touchdown. Jayne. Excuse me, Walker, two catches, 36 yards, a touchdown. Luther Burton, the third. three catches, 35 yards. Cole Khamet, one catch. He did catch the two-point conversion. But if I'm not mistaken,
Starting point is 00:13:17 I think Caleb Williams finished the season with the most passing yards in Bears history, am I correct? They still, they're the only team in NFL history, Ocho, that have yet to have a quarterback pass for 4,000 yards. But if I'm not mistaken, I think Caleb Williams has the most
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Starting point is 00:16:05 We created good luck with that because we want to share our experience of existing in an industry that wasn't always built for everyone. So listen to good luck with that on iHeart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcast. Also, the Eagles, Nick Sariani, stood by resting many of his starters in the regular season finale against the commanders, even though the decision negatively affected its team seeding. The Eagles needed to win over Washington Day plus a bear's loss, excuse me, to the Lions to move into the number two seed.
Starting point is 00:16:43 Yes, the two seed. Instead, they lost, and so they get the number three seed. The Lions held up their end. They won 19 to 16. But the Eagles lost 2417 locking them into the three seed on the matchup with the six-seeded 49ers. Remember, Ocho? Yeah.
Starting point is 00:17:00 Two years, three years ago, this was the matchup in which Purdy hurt his arm. And basically, they had to run wildcat. Christian McCaffrey was trying to throw passes. Debo was trying to throw passes. So this is kind of rematch for the NFC championship game. Oh Joe, do you have any problem with the Eagles doing what they did? Absolutely not. Seriani and Siriani, I'm sure Siriani talked to the boys.
Starting point is 00:17:25 Listen, I'm going to rest y'all. I want y'all nice, fresh and healthy. For those of you that are banged up, I want to, for those of you that are hurt right now or have little nicks and whatever it may be, I'm going to give you a week off because I want you to heal. I want you to be fresh. I don't care what seed we are. I don't care what seed we are. we're going to find out who we're playing
Starting point is 00:17:46 y'all going to sit here and watch all my backups and my third stringers y'all getting all your action today y'all get your action day whether we win or not I'm not tripping we're not worried about the results on anyone else's game and where it puts us at whatever season we at y'all going to be ready to go
Starting point is 00:18:03 when it's time to play honestly I like it I like it especially with the way the way they've looked they've been up and down all season long nah it's one game now it's one game I go home It's one game I go home. It don't matter. It don't matter when we see it.
Starting point is 00:18:17 We don't really see it. It's still one game. We don't care whether we get a high seat. We get a low seat. We still have to play the game of football. Y'all make it seem like any of these teams can't kick your ass. They're in the playoffs. At this point.
Starting point is 00:18:32 At this point. They're in the playoffs. And I get it. It's like, well, wouldn't you rather face the Packers? No. I'd rather place nobody. But unfortunately, I got to play somebody to advance. There's nobody forfeiting.
Starting point is 00:18:44 Everybody's going to show up. Look, they're going to tee the ball up. They're going to kick it off to us first, or we're going to kick it off to them first. But at some point in time, we're going to play 60 minutes. And if we don't just get it done in 60 minutes, we're going to go overtime for 10 minutes. But we're going to decide that somebody's going to advance.
Starting point is 00:19:01 It's really that simple. So, you, man, I'd rather play this team. And you must run to catch a hot team, and they light your ass up. Then what? Yep. And you'd be mad. And matter of fact, that a hot team that light your ass up,
Starting point is 00:19:13 could be a lower seat. And what happens? You go out there and you get J. LaHertz nicked. You go get Devonte played, but you get A.J. Nick. Or you get one of those defensive. You get Michael or Mitchell, excuse me, Mitchell or DeJan. You get them Nick.
Starting point is 00:19:30 Then what? Man, I don't know why you're playing them. You are already in the playoffs. Yeah. It was smart. It was smart. I agree. It was smart.
Starting point is 00:19:37 I agree. I think in a situation like that, there's much more to lose than game. Yeah. Because it's not like, it's not like, okay, if we, now, if there's an opportunity for us to get a buy, I guarantee you he to play them. If it was like it was before Ocho,
Starting point is 00:19:56 when you get two buys, I guarantee you he to play them. But now there's only opportunity if there's only going to be one buy, and that, that buy was already, a substantiated, was validated last night. No, I'm good, because. I ain't been to get no guys.
Starting point is 00:20:12 Hell now. Yep, y'all. Mix. So that's where we are right now, Ocho. Josh Johnson, this is the first touchdown pass Josh Johnson thrown in how long? His first win,
Starting point is 00:20:33 when was the last time Josh Johnson won a game? How long has been? Well, he ain't won that many. He ain't won that many, Ocho. Josh, hey, Josh, and played for a few teams. This is the first game he's won.
Starting point is 00:20:55 This is the second game he's won in his whole career. Really? I think it's his first touchdown pass he's thrown since 21. But hey, congratulations to Josh, man. Since 21. Congrats, bro. Hey, hey, keep drawing, cool. Stand there as long as you can.
Starting point is 00:21:17 Make him kick you out. Hey. Hey, y'all have to kick. Hey, y'all will kick me out. A one thing about being a backup quarterback, you can play that thing damn near 20 years. But see, you can be a backup quarterback when you don't have to expect,
Starting point is 00:21:33 when you haven't been great. Great players, it's hard for them to be a backup. Right. Well, good players can be a backup. When that's mainly what you've been. Right. It's a backup. Hey, sir, you're serviceable.
Starting point is 00:21:48 Yes. Yes. You get a guy like John McCown. You get a guy like Fitzpatrick. they're going to play 15, 16, 17, 18 years. But when you've been a starter, see, when you've been a starter, Ocho, no matter how old you get,
Starting point is 00:22:02 people have the same level of expectations. Statations. People have the same level of expectation for LeBron at 41 to have for him at 27. See, he don't get to be that role player that coming up the bench, the 7th, 8 guy, play 15, 16 years. Nah, bro, they see LeBron James.
Starting point is 00:22:20 Right. Aaron Rogers. Any great player, They see that. All they see is Aaron Rogers. They expect Aaron Rogers to be a four-time league MVP. So that's why it's easy. You see the guy,
Starting point is 00:22:34 man, maybe I can play how many years? A bunch of years ain't starting none of them. They don't let me and you get no years, Ocho. No. But that's all you, okay. All right, go home. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:22:51 That's all you got. You could go home now. But no, I don't have a, I don't have a problem. I thought Tana McKee late. Tana McKee was 21 of 40, 241, one touchdown, one interception, tank Biggsby, 16 for 75.
Starting point is 00:23:06 They ran the ball 19 times for 80 yards, basically four yards to carry. Devante got his thousand yards, right? That's what Devante needed. He got his thousand yards. Let Devonte get his thousand. Get up out of there. Get up out of there.
Starting point is 00:23:19 I thought Jeremiah Trotter Jr. played well. He stopped to run. His dad, that's what his dad was. Dad, would you come down here? Yeah, hey, he was a thump. He was a thumpel, boy. But no, I thought, look, he did, they did what they were supposed to do.
Starting point is 00:23:32 Let's get healthy. Right. Let's gear up. Hey, we're at home. Look, we know what, we know what the 49ers represent. But I want to be healthy. I want my guys as healthy as possible going into this ball game. Right.
Starting point is 00:23:48 And this is, this is a funny thing about it, too. The 49ers, as great as they are offensively, the defense is not that good. God damn. The defense is not. They don't have no rush. Yeah, that's why I said, hold on. That's why I say offensively, but the Eagles match up with they as bar for bar on every level.
Starting point is 00:24:04 At the receiver position, being able to stifle McCaffrey, the Eagles are one of the few teams that have a defense that can deal with all the things that Shanahan offense does as well. I agree. So that's why, hey, that's even better. I know. Who we got? We got who?
Starting point is 00:24:20 Okay, bet. Hold my beer. that's going to be a good game it's going to be a good game but obviously because the Eagle defense is so good and because they match up well it's a perfect matchup for the Eagle defense I got them winning the game anyway
Starting point is 00:24:35 it's going to be a good game it's going to be a very good game but right now the two hottest teams going into the playoffs the Seahawks and the Jacksonville Jags Oh yeah absolutely Jacksonville Jags man Absolutely
Starting point is 00:24:48 Hey I don't know what Trevor Lauren did I don't know what he did before the season either. I don't know what young boy did before the season started. Yeah. But the Eagles, the number three seed, draw the number six seed in the San Francisco 49ers. That game is on Sunday. So tune in.
Starting point is 00:25:08 Let's see if the Eagles start their quest to repeat as Super Bowl champs. It's going to be a very interesting matchup. You get Brock Purdy. against Jalen hurts. May the best team win. Hey, one game, mom. Every January, we're encouraged to start over. But what if this year is about slowing down
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Starting point is 00:27:22 This week, me and my co-host, Nora Vasencelos and Alex White, we have Fabiana Delfino on the show, a professional skateboarder from Florida, whose crit was forged in a family of athletes. Tune in to hear how she broke into the boys' club, what it takes to be pro, and why just being grateful you're here shouldn't be the price of entry. Maybe the industry thinks that we just started skating five years ago, because that's when they maybe started paying attention. It's a no-fluff conversation about putting in the years, stacking clips and receipts, and still having to prove your worth while the industry catches up.
Starting point is 00:27:53 You break down the door, sick, now, like, hold the door for everyone. We created good luck with that because we want to share our experience of existing in the industry that wasn't always built for everyone. So listen to good luck with that on IHeart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. The Giants beat the Cowboys 3414 in the season finale. Giants owner John Mara got a season. an ending gift from the team three months into his cancer treatment. Marr got a game ball in an emotional locker room scene after the Giants beat the Cowboys
Starting point is 00:28:28 to finish their loss season on a two-game winning streak. Beating Dallas and other results around the NFL took the Giants out of the running for the top pick in the draft, made them fall to the fifth pick. Here's the current order of the draft. The Las Vegas Raiders pick number one. The Jets pick number two. Cardinals pick three. Titans.
Starting point is 00:28:48 Giants, fifth, Browns, 6th, Commander 7th, Saints, 8, Chiefs, 9th, Bengals, 10th. And we got the 10th pick? I know for us, I can only speak on us. I can't speak on any other teams and what their needs may be, but I know what our need is. Our need is defense. So with that 10th pick, we're going defense.
Starting point is 00:29:15 I'm not sure what position. Well, I tell you what if Bain is there, you better take it. Bain is not making it past five, I can tell you that. Right now, Fernando Mendoza is number one. Dante Moore is number two. Admiral Reese, lineback of Ohio State is three. Ruben Bain, Junger, four, to the Titans. Carnell Tate, number five, wide receiver, Ohio State.
Starting point is 00:29:41 Jordan Tyson, ride receiver, Arizona State, Cleveland. Caleb Downs, Safety, Ohio State, Commanders. Jeremiah Love running back Saints Spencer for now Off his attack They know
Starting point is 00:29:56 Off his tackle Utah David Bailey Edge Texas Tech Bingoes That's the early Pre-Jraft
Starting point is 00:30:06 That's what they You know That's where they have Mark That's the early mark Right right Right I mean obviously
Starting point is 00:30:12 Some of those things Will change Outside of the top three The top three are sealed sealed and delivered Sealed and delivered, especially obviously
Starting point is 00:30:20 with the first pick, whoever has the first pick, obviously they need a quarterback. Waders, and Jets. Yeah, this is what bothers me. What bothers you? This is what bothers me. When you have team that are picking first, you know you're getting the quarterback, but the quarterback can go into such a bad team.
Starting point is 00:30:39 Most of the time, the quarterbacks are not the type of quarterbacks that can elevate your franchise right away. It's just not. And they don't have enough, they don't have enough around them for them to, to, to, to play up to their standards. And that, that's the part that actually sucks. And then most of the time, they also don't have the motherfucking patience to develop said
Starting point is 00:31:03 quarterbacks that they, that they pick with the first pick. I mean, most people, oh, Cho, when they spend $30, $40 million, $50 million for a house, are you going to wait three years to move in or are you trying to move in right away? Well, when you, hey, listen, when you put it that way, hey, when you put it that way, but also you understand what you're picking. You know good and goddamn well if you have a franchise altering quarterback or not with the first pick.
Starting point is 00:31:33 You already know because you're watching film. You're watching film. You know if you bring him in, what it's going to look like. If you know you ain't got none for him to work with. You right. You ain't wrong with you right. Dak Prescott was 7 of 11, 70 yards.
Starting point is 00:31:54 Joe Milt was 7 to 13, 73 yards. Ryan Flanoy was 5 for 68 Spanford was 2 of 30 George Pickens one of nine See he had one for four Look I think the thing is I love the fact that They got Dak out Dack doesn't need to have any more offseason surgery
Starting point is 00:32:15 He comes back healthy They just need to build the defense I think they have I would bring I would look to try to bring Javante Williams back I'm doing everything I possibly can To bring a PIC back but I'm also looking to rebuild my offensive line.
Starting point is 00:32:29 Now, maybe, maybe they take the left guard, Smith, and kick him out to the left tackle and take Guyton from left tackle and moving to the right tackle. Maybe you mix and match and pieces like that, but you got to get better defensively, Ocho. You do. You need battlebackers. You need another premium rush or outside,
Starting point is 00:32:45 and I'm not so sure you don't need safety help or maybe even a corner. Because you lost Trayvon Diggs. I don't know the extent of Duron Blan's injury, but you got to get better defensively if you want to compete. You just do. Yeah. Because you look at Seattle, you look at the Rams, you look at the 49ers, you look at the Eagles,
Starting point is 00:33:03 you look at the teams and at the, bro, bro. Yeah. You're behind them. Big time. You're behind them. You need multiple pieces. They need one or, they need one piece, maybe two pieces. You need multiple.
Starting point is 00:33:22 Yeah. But also you have to think how long it took those teams you just named? How long did it take them to get to that point? where they only need one or two pieces. Ah, man, that's crazy. DeVian Klona had himself today. He did have three sacks today. They're definitely going to look to bring him back,
Starting point is 00:33:49 but I'm not so sure other teams are not going to get involved now. How many sacks do you have? Like eight? Eight sacks now, all of a sudden, he ain't going to be playing. He ain't going to be playing on a $3, $4 million deal. You're going to be looking to get eight to ten. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:34:10 Eight and a half. Matthew Stafford through four touchdown passes on Cho. Rams beat the Cardo, 37-20 to secure the number 5C to prepare for the playoffs. Rams dressed starters, dressed their starters for a fairly meaningless regular season finale and an opponent that hadn't won in two months. The Rams didn't even look ready for the modest test,
Starting point is 00:34:31 let alone the postseason. When Sean McVepe players found themselves training late in the third, Matthew Stafford said it was what we needed to happen. It kind of put our minds into it. Matthew Stafford passed the Dan Marino for seven. on the NFL career touchdown list while finishing his career his season with an MVP caliber.
Starting point is 00:34:53 He led the league in passing yards, 4747. He led the league in passing touchdowns, 46, the second most in league history by a quarterback, at least 37 years of age or older. He's the MVP. You go to look at the sports button now he's back leapfrogged, Drake May. At the last week,
Starting point is 00:35:14 at the last week performance, he's Leaprog, Drake May after today. 46 and 8, 4,700 yards? Yeah. I'm just asking. Yes. I'm just curious. He got, how many touchdowns that Drake may throw for? 31, 31, 32?
Starting point is 00:35:26 Because he's like 13, 14 picks in front, I mean, 13, 14 touchdowns in front of him. Yeah. I mean, listen, you heard all the Rummings last week because Matt Stafford had a, he had a bad, bad week last week. And obviously, oh, everybody, Drake made the MVP, Drake made the MVP. Now, I'm just curious because Drake, Drake may have one hell of a season too long. Drake may had one hell of a season
Starting point is 00:35:47 and he's worthy of the MVP conversation as well. Hey, but listen, what we saw Matt Stafford do? Uh, Super Bowl winning quarterback. He should look like this. And Pooka to school. He should, he should look like this with Puka and Devante Adam. Devonty had. He didn't tell him what he would have because you know,
Starting point is 00:36:05 Devonte will score a machine. Oh, yeah. He got 14 TD on 60 catches. Yeah, that's crazy. That's crazy. It's amazing. Amazing. Who could lead the league in reception?
Starting point is 00:36:19 Hey, look at a, hey, look at the quarterbacks, Devonthe then had and went to. Stafford and Aaron Rogers. Yeah, but he was, a two gun slingers. He, remember he went, he had 15, 16 touchdowns with Derek Carr. Remember his first year? He had 50 hundred yards and 15 touchdowns.
Starting point is 00:36:37 If I'm not mistaken, 15 touchdowns with Derek Carr, his former college quarterback. Hey, you know, Derek, hey, Derek Carr is a gunslinger. A lot of people forget that. Puga Nacoola led the league in reception, though, so he finished his season with 179. He also went over 1,700 yards.
Starting point is 00:36:52 But Jackson Smith and Jigma, JASN led the league in receiving yardage with 1770, in 17193, if I'm not mistaken. I think Puka had, what, 1709? 1715. Pooka had 1715. JSCN had 1793. But Puga had 190. Puka had 1.99 receptions.
Starting point is 00:37:28 I think McBride had 126 and Chase had 125. So Chase did lead the AFC in receptions again. Right. Hey, man. You know what my numbers would it look like with 125 receptions? No, what you mean? Well, with that been in receptions, Ocho, you know you got to catch a lot of smoke screens.
Starting point is 00:37:51 You ain't just getting no deep balls now. Hey, I forget deep ball, just running routes. Just running routes. Just let me run routes. I don't want no smoke screens. I don't need no tricks, please. How many smoke screens you think are a puga catch? Exactly.
Starting point is 00:38:09 How many, Chase, Chase ain't just catch your square house, man. You got a hundred twenty-five catch a little, Cho. I can't just throw you square-hounds posts and digs. Hey. I got to get you the ball, I got to get you the ball. I got to get you the ball quick. I got to let you do some with it. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:38:25 Hey, they so creative. They are. They are. They so created with the way they get them the ball. And then them too, they can do so much once they get that, that box in their hands, man. Man, I can't do that. I can't do none of that. Break what tackle?
Starting point is 00:38:41 Man, poo can be making catches. Pooka be catching one hand. Man, you see them catches Pooka be making? Yeah. I'm like, damn. Hey, 50, 50, 50. with him turned in 1990. But I think Matthew Stafford with today,
Starting point is 00:38:56 I think Matthew Stafford is going to win the MVP. He's probably going to be rookie of the year as well. Maybe JSN, excuse me, maybe JSN win offensive player of the year. But I think Matthew Stafford sold up MVP. It's been a no-brainer. Miles Garrett is going to be a unanimous, defensive player of the year.
Starting point is 00:39:21 Rookie of the year, is it going to be McMillan or is it going to be Taylor? Is it going to be Tyler Shook? Interesting. You know what? The way Shook looked, the last, what, six, seven weeks, they probably leaned toward more him. Because remember they gave it to him.
Starting point is 00:39:42 I thought he played extremely well. Chase had 1,450-something yards, but you had Justin Herbert do what he did, threw over $4,000, broke the passing yards record with yardage and touchdown. So he got that. So they'll probably lean towards a quarterback. But hey, I think McMillan had a hell of a season.
Starting point is 00:40:01 Went over a thousand yards as a rookie. Remoddre Stevenson scored three touchdowns. Playoffine Patriots beat the Dolphins 3810. Stevenson rushed seven times for 131 yards. New England posted the first sweep of the dolphins since 2016. The Patriots finished their 14 and three season with the most victories since they won the Super Bowl in 2016. The L.C. East champions are the number two.
Starting point is 00:40:25 seat and host the seventh seed charges in the wild card game Denver prevented New England from earning the top seed by beating the charges 19 to 3. If I'm not mistaken, I think the Patriots have the most 14 wins seasons in the NFL history.
Starting point is 00:40:41 I think they have what, five or six, Ash? Patriots dolphins. Damn, my dolphins, man. We're going to rebound next year, though, huh? So how many seasons they got? Six, 14 win seasons.
Starting point is 00:41:00 Yeah, we're going to rebound next year. Don't worry about it. Guppeth ain't doing nothing. Y'all feed the fish. All you're going to do is make, all y'all going to make to do is Patriots and the bills get fat. Y'all feed a fish.
Starting point is 00:41:15 Nah, we're good. You're not. Listen, we're bringing Troy Eggman in for a reason, huh? He ain't playing quarterback. We're going to get this thing. Now, he ain't playing quarterback. He going to get this thing together, though. He can get it together.
Starting point is 00:41:28 We're going to be all right. Don't worry about it. Watch what I tell you. Tarreek coming back too? He's not coming back. Yeah, yeah, yeah. And we're going to work on a nice team-friendly deal. We're good.
Starting point is 00:41:40 He ain't looking with a team for you. He's good. He's going to be back. Drake May 14 of 18, 191, one touchdown. Joshua Jobs, 3 of 4, 23 yards. Ramandre Stevenson, 7 carries. A book 31, two touchdowns. Trayvon Henderson, 13 carries, 53 yards, two touchdown.
Starting point is 00:42:02 Drake May, 5. carry, 41 yards. They ran the ball 34 times, 24 yards, 4 touchdown. Stefan Diggs had 3 for 43, went over a thousand yards, went over for a thousand yards receiving for the season, Ocho.
Starting point is 00:42:17 Got him a nice chunk of change for breaking up, Mark, in his incentive clause. Patriots look good. They look good. They look really good. Yes, they do. They look like this all season long. That's the funny thing.
Starting point is 00:42:34 How the hell they lose to the Raiders? Hey, it's amazing. Hey, any, hey. Huh? You know the motto. It ain't given Sunday. No matter how good you are, it can happen. A bad team could just have your number that day.
Starting point is 00:42:51 You're right, don't you? You're not wrong when you're right. Well, the Seattle Seahawks are the number one seed, and they win the NFC. They get two birds with one stone. They go on the road and take down a very red. hot San Francisco 49er team by the score of 13 to 3. Their defense was outstanding. We can't reiterate that enough.
Starting point is 00:43:19 There's not enough adjective to describe what this defense did tonight to a very hot and a very good 49er office. They made Brock, I mean, he threw 427 yards. They had less than, they had 180 yards of total offense. In their own building, Christian McAfre had 23 rush yards. and 34 receiving yards. Sam Darnel was 20 of 26, 196, 198, zero touchdown, zero interceptions.
Starting point is 00:43:48 They ran the ball extremely well. 39 rush attempts, 180 yards and a touchdown. Jackson Smith and Jigba, six catches, 184 yards. I think he was over 1,800, Ocho. He should be. Might be over 1900.
Starting point is 00:44:02 He should be by now, yeah, he should be. And only three guys in the history of the NFL have ever had at least 1900 yards receiving. He's one of them, Cooper Cup, and obviously Calvin Johnson, who has the record. But Seattle was impressive tonight, don't you? What did you like about, what did you like most about what you saw from the Seahawks? Listen, what I like most about what I saw from the Seahawks is, for one, Sam Donald, he didn't do what has always harmed him, especially last year in the playoffs, in important games and important situations, he turned them all over. He'd been turnover prone
Starting point is 00:44:32 towards the end of the season this year as well. But this game, Unk, he was clean. But I want to give Mike McDonald. I don't know what kind of speech he had before the game for that defense to play their way they played tonight. But they did. They, they had every answer for everything the 49ers wanted to run offensively. I've never seen, it's happened very few times where he's seen a 49ist offense get shut out like this. Chris McCaffrey, who's able to do so much offensive for them because they can put him in so many positions to make plays and find the mismatches for him. They played it extremely well all night long. Obviously, Brock turned the ball over one time.
Starting point is 00:45:09 Chris McCaffey, who has always had sure hands, he let one get away from him and turn the ball over. It looked like it got tipped, though, Joe. It did. The guy tipped, they kind of threw it off balance. But it looked like CMAQ wanted to do something, like he wanted to catch it and reverse it. Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Starting point is 00:45:28 But other than that, man, this was a beautiful game, very low scoring. Obviously, if you have offered the type of guy like myself, you want to see more points score. and you want to see the Seahawks take advantage of some of those outings that they had, including the one where they got interception, but they weren't able to do anything with it. The 49th defense played well as well, but they couldn't get anything going offensively at all. Well, I thought the difference in the ballgame, look, from a Seattle perspective,
Starting point is 00:45:59 you mentioned Sam Donald did not put the ball in harm's way. Yeah, he's thrown 26 touchdowns, but he has 20 turnovers. And if you go back and look at them the games that they lost, turnovers were heavily involved. Now, they did win a game. I think they won a game against who, with the Rams, where they turned the ball over a bunch and they still was able to win the ball game. But if you look at his history, when he turns the ball over,
Starting point is 00:46:19 there's a great chance that his team's going to lose the game. But this defense is playing so well. They played a lot of cover two tonight because they believe they can stop. They believe that they can stop their running game with that front four. Say, we got seven. We don't need to do anything special. And they got after them with that front four. I thought D-Lawed them.
Starting point is 00:46:38 I thought those guys played really, really well. The DB stuck to the receivers, Ocho, and Ernest Jones IV. And the rest of those crew, they did a great job of neutralizing the run, putting enough pressure on Brock Purdy where he couldn't get comfortable. And the longest completion tonight, Ocho. What? How many? George Kittle.
Starting point is 00:46:56 The longest completion tonight was 20 yards. They only had 127 yards on 27 pass. That was a kiddle, right? that was the one to kiddle. Yes. Yes. Yes. Watching Seattle, you know, obviously, you know, watching them,
Starting point is 00:47:12 I probably watched them probably about four or five times this year, Ocho. Their defense is better than advertised. Absolutely. Absolutely. And if you remember, Ocho, the last time the Ravens defense has been good, he coordinated it, the head coach of the Seahawks coordinator. Remember, they lost the championship game. I think they lost what, 14, 13, 14, 10, something like that.
Starting point is 00:47:30 And then he ends up getting out of there and he gets the head coaching job at Seattle. That was the last time the Ravens defense looked competent. Yeah. If they play Ocho, based on what I've seen
Starting point is 00:47:43 on every team in the EFC, now you know, any given Sunday, anything, any given Sunday, any given Saturday, anything could happen. But if the Seahawks play like this,
Starting point is 00:47:51 they're in a team in the NFC can beat them. Not the Eagles, not the Rams, not the 49ers, not Carolina, Tampa. Now, if I'm saying, friend,
Starting point is 00:47:59 I'm not that disappointed. Whoever the five seats should be jumping over joy, because you're going to get Tampa, you're going to get Carolina. And you avoid, you're going to avoid, you're going to avoid, I'm not so sure anybody's really afraid
Starting point is 00:48:11 of the Eagles as much as their, maybe last year, but they haven't been clicking on anything. They hadn't looked really expressive this year. But if the Seahawks play like this, you're going to catch hell going to Seattle and beat him. With the 12th man, like I said,
Starting point is 00:48:27 I'm saying, they play like this. That means Sam Donald doesn't turn the ball over. He turns the ball over all bets or off. Because you can end up somebody getting a scoop and score or pick six or you sit them up on a short field. Excuse me, Chad. But if you have to drive the ball of this defense, with those two corners and those balls.
Starting point is 00:48:45 It ain't happening. I don't see it, don't Joe. I don't. Not happening at all. With the swing, hey, listen. We talk about that front four, the first level. They got them back in playing well too. Oh, you got walling.
Starting point is 00:48:58 They got spoon. They're playing. They're playing really well. Look. Josh Job Look, they got guys That, look, it's hard to explain, Ocho But just looking at them, their fundamentalist sound
Starting point is 00:49:13 Wherever you catch the ball at, they normally get you down there And they come in a hurry. They do a lot of gang tackling. They ain't a lot of one-on-one. Hey, the D-Line, hey, they see the ball thrown, they turn it and go away. This was impressive tonight
Starting point is 00:49:27 To go on the road and beat a team that's been as hot as the 49ers as been. Hold on, let me pull up some stats, Ocho, right quick. Let me see what this thing. Because they did the job. The 49ers had nine first downs, Ocho. That's it. There were two or nine on third down.
Starting point is 00:49:50 There were two on four downs. Yeah. They had 173 total yards. Time of possession, 37, almost 38 minutes to 22 minutes. That's crazy. That's crazy. had and this game really shouldn't have been close. No.
Starting point is 00:50:12 They were all three in the red zone. They missed the field goal and they had the center for field goals. But I mean, they were downed and they could have got points out of those. Give the 40. But I was surprised what I was really surprised by, one of the things that I, let me know what you think, is that how well Seattle ran the ball against the 49ers? Ocho 3017 and you run a handoff and you pick it up 19, yeah.
Starting point is 00:50:35 Yeah, Kenneth Walker because, you know what? It's third down, right? Third and 17, most of the time you want to play it safe. I'm sure in that situation, they should have known it was going to be a run. It should have been a draw some type of handoff in general. I mean, yes, they backed up. Why are you backed up? Why are you playing the past, especially in that situation?
Starting point is 00:50:56 I don't understand. And Kenneth. But you got Seattle backed up. So, you know, and it's not like they totally trusted because, like, Oh, okay. Let's, hey, let's just run the ball. Hey, do something, do something, you know, easy. Defense is playing well.
Starting point is 00:51:11 Yes. Yes. Yes. So, I mean, listen, I don't understand how that even worked. Brock Purdy did not have his finest hour tonight. He had been playing extremely well. And I'm not, you know, like I said, it's one game based on the body of work. I think he's shown that he's more than capable and more than confident.
Starting point is 00:51:35 He went to an NFC championship game. He took a team to the Super Bowl. He kind of got, he'd been beat up a little bit since then. But I don't, I don't really have any major concerns about him. It was just that this was a total, this was more so what Seattle did do,
Starting point is 00:51:49 not so much of what the 40s didn't do. I think sometimes, Ocho, we get caught up like, oh, my goodness, I can't believe they did that. Where they weren't going seven on seven, they weren't going against themselves. Or they wasn't going against air.
Starting point is 00:52:00 They was going against a very competent defense, a team that can get out of you with their front four. They're really solid on the back edge. Ernest Jones, Junior, excuse me, Junior the fourth, is a tackling machine. They fly around to the football. This is a very good team, a very well coach team that's put together. John Snyder probably doesn't get enough credit,
Starting point is 00:52:21 but you look at what they have. A lot of these guys, or they drafted these guys. Now, they did sign D-Law. They did make the trade for Big Leonard Williams. They got Ernest Jones basically for little of nothing. But he's been, they make the trade for Shaheed. that really broke the game on. He was the guy that flipped the script
Starting point is 00:52:40 when they were playing their home against the Rams. Because he was the one that got him started with that punt return, and then he catches a big jailbreak screen and get going out of the house. Out of the house. But I was shocked. I was shocked how Seattle made the 49ers look.
Starting point is 00:53:03 Because I think the 49ers are, I've never seen. It was like Kyle was like, you're just going up and down. called she trying to find something to work actually and it seemed like everything he calls McDonald and their defense they had to answer for it everything. Had an answer for it. So what you're thinking?
Starting point is 00:53:21 Who do you, who do you, I mean, look, the Rams, 49ers, Seahawks. We know they're in. It's going to be either Carolina or it's going to be Tampa. And then you look at the NFC East. It's the Eagles. And it's going to be Green Bay. Chicago. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:53:43 I just, it's just hard for me to see a scenario with someone. Like I said, turn the ball over in the playoffs, all best are off.
Starting point is 00:53:50 I don't give a damn who you are. But just looking at the teams and the way they played thus far, Seattle's defense is outstanding. Amazing. And you're going to have to go
Starting point is 00:54:02 there to beat them. You're going to go there to be a tough task. It's going to be a tall attack. Especially not only, forget the defense, forget the offense. having to deal with that crowd.
Starting point is 00:54:14 You can't hear nothing in that stadium. Right. And they got Anjigba, who's a matchup nightmare. I don't care who your corners are. So don't get Mitchell and Dejohn, they're not seeing this dude one-on-one. They don't like to play a whole lot of one. They believe they can stop your run
Starting point is 00:54:32 with their front floor. They like to play. Now, they will. They will play coverage. They will play cover one. They will play, they go man. But Injigua is just ban. That's your cat quick.
Starting point is 00:54:43 He is, I mean, he is super duper quick. And you better not miss. It's a rap. You better get both hands on him because if you don't. It's a rap. And the funny thing about it is he got your wallet and gone, Ocho. He's not a speed burner, uh? He's not a speed burner, but he's being more quick than fast.
Starting point is 00:55:02 And not, not only that, he's quick. And then he knows he's an elite route runner, elite. He's very, very good at being able to manipulate whatever. is in front of him, make sure he creates separation. Yeah, and he's unbelievable at that. It's going to be interesting to see because if you think about it, the Eagles really haven't run the ball all year. Chicago has one of the best rushing attacks.
Starting point is 00:55:29 We'll see what they can do with that. But the question is, we know Seattle has home. So that means Chicago will be the two seed. the Eagles will be the three seed. So that means, so right now who's, who's the three? What's five, six? So that means the Rams go, go to a Philly. That means the Niners get the winner of Tampa and Carolina.
Starting point is 00:56:05 I mean, if Atlanta wins, Carolina's in the playoff. If New Orleans wins, Tampa's in the playoffs. So that means Green Bay is the seven seats. So they go to the two seed, which would be the Bears. Okay. So now, I mean, the Bears are going to play because, look, they about that, I think Caleb Williams, if he throws for like 200 and something yards, he'll be the first 4,000 yard passer in Bears history. Now, you talk about a team, they talk about a team that's damn near over 100 years old, and they've never had a 4,000 yard passer. That's crazy.
Starting point is 00:56:42 They're the only team, I think, if I'm not mistaken, in the NFL history, that's never had a 4,000 yard passer. That's crazy. So you see how this thing is headed. Rams going to Philly. 49ers are going to be on the road at either Carolina or Tampa, and Green Bay is going to be on the road again against Green Bay. I mean, excuse me, going to be on the road against Chicago. And see Alibair home with the heels kicked up saying we get who we get.
Starting point is 00:57:10 It don't matter. We get who we get. You think about teams that get the Bible get the NFL, and you look at the teams in college. football that got in the buy, do you think that the same effect in having rushed as opposed to the teams that get a by weekend college or you don't think that really affects NFL? You know, it all depends. Turnovers, they're so weighted, so heavy come postseason time, Ocho.
Starting point is 00:57:40 That momentum swings, I'm talking about that momentum swings quick. And before you know it, where you normally down seven, you're probably down 14-17. And especially if you're at home, because now every third down you don't get, your crowd get antsy. They get real quiet. They start to boot. The opposing teams start to feel bigger life. But we've seen, I mean, we've seen Kansas City going the road. It all depends how well can your quarterback handle adversity.
Starting point is 00:58:20 That's the key. That's the key. and for the most part, Hertz and Purdy are the only ones that's been in this situation. Sam Donald has never had to win a playoff game on the road. He's never done it. Remember how bad he went to Detroit last year
Starting point is 00:58:37 and looked off him? That was bad. This will be Caleb Williams' first time in the postseason. Jordan Love has had some success in the postseason. He did go to Dallas and drop 48 on them. So Matt Stafford has gone on the road and beat Tampa with Tom Brady and went on to win a Super Bowl.
Starting point is 00:58:58 So you look at the quarterbacks that's been in these situations before and you probably give them a slight nod, but Seattle's defense is a neutralizer. It's an equalizer. It's going to be the difference. It's going to be the difference. If Sam Donald plays the way he does
Starting point is 00:59:16 in the offseason without turn the ball over, without putting the ball in harm's way, with that defense, that Seattle's playing right now, I'm not saying they're not, the Legion of Boom. They're not that. They're not that. But they damn show where it's good,
Starting point is 00:59:29 but it can be the reason they can hold that goddamn trophy up. Because I don't see, I don't see the offense in the AFC. That's that high-powered, that can create that many mismatches where they can have success going up and down the field on that defense.
Starting point is 00:59:46 I don't. Yeah, I don't either. I don't either. I mean, all things being, equal AFC. I would probably give the nod to Josh Allen because he's been in the playoffs in these situations more times than not.
Starting point is 01:00:01 He's a guy that legs and the moment. And he does a great job come playoff time of taking care of the football. Now, his bugger boo was early in his career in the regular season of turning it over. And that's what got them in harm's way. But he's done a fairly good job come postseason time of taking care of the football. He's played really well in some games that he happened to be opposite of Patrick Mahomes, who's kind of one-uped it. But I agree.
Starting point is 01:00:25 I mean, but you know, I think that's the thing that fans love most about the NFL, Ocho, is one game. I ain't got to beat you four times. I just got to beat you one. I got to beat you one Saturday, one Sunday. That's it.
Starting point is 01:00:43 I like it. That's it. That's all I got to do. Kenneth Walker, 16 carries 97 yards. Zach Sharbonnet, 17 carries 74 yards. I thought Sam Donald made some great plays with his legs on your buying time. He bought some time.
Starting point is 01:01:02 Find Cooper Cup. Balled some time. Follow J.S.N. I thought he did a great job of buying time with his legs, letting new guys work their way, find a final way to get open and then doing a great job. Look, he's not much of a scrambling. Nobody expected him to be.
Starting point is 01:01:17 He doesn't have to be. When you got a running game like that, they can run the football. But JSA and you still got a burner, even though Shahid, he did do a whole lot to passing game tonight. He's more than, he's more. He's more than capable of having a big time game.
Starting point is 01:01:33 They just got to put him in position to do it. That's all. That's all that comes down to. Hey, you know, Shaman, how you say the running back name, Chabinay? And he remind me of Robert Smith from the Vikings. A shirt, shirt, a long strider shirt tucked in. Look exactly like Robert Smith, the way you run. But it's going to be a, it's going to be a, let the fun begin.
Starting point is 01:01:58 But the Seattle Seahawks get the number one seed, and they win the NFC West, thanks to a 13-3 victory on the road against the San Francisco 49ers. They finished the regular season with a 14-3 record. 49ers closed out of the year, considering all the injuries that they've undergone
Starting point is 01:02:16 for them to be 12 and 5. And the number 5 seed in the playoffs, I think that's a pretty good job. I thought Kyle Shadahan did a great job of keeping this team together. I thought Matt Jones did a great job of when he came in, of playing at an extremely high.
Starting point is 01:02:30 level to keep this team. Because, you know, they've had injuries. They've had Williams be out. They had Big Trent, he was out. Kittle missed time. Purdy missed time. They've had a influx. Obviously, Bose is done, was done for the season early on.
Starting point is 01:02:48 But for them to maintain an extremely high level of play and still make the playoffs, given the injuries, I think that's a pretty good. I think that's a pretty good accomplishment. They don't feel that way. right now, considering they had home, they were on their own home turf, and they got out played tonight in all phases, office, defense, and special teams. But 12 and 5, and to get into the playoffs, I think that speaks volume to what type of team they're playing. But congratulations to the Seattle Seahawks. They win, 13-3, on the road against the 49ers, finished the regular
Starting point is 01:03:22 season, 14 and 3, and they will be the number one seed in the NFC. Jackson Smith and Jigba. he finishes the season. Ocho, 119 catches, which ties him for the lead right now. Pooka Nacool has 119, and McBride has 119. So he's not going to win that.
Starting point is 01:03:44 But he finished it with 1793 yards. That's a good scene. Not quite 18. Not quite 18. That's a good season. They've only been a handful of guys that's ever had 18 or 1900 yards. Julio did it.
Starting point is 01:03:58 I think Reverend Ike, Isaac Bruce did it. Obviously, Jerry did it. Cooper Cup had 19, a little like 1947. Calvin had Megatron had 1964. AB had 18002. They've only been a handful of guys. They're probably less than 10 guys that's had 18 or 19 hundred yards receiving in the history of the NFL.
Starting point is 01:04:27 Isaac Bruce never had 18. what do you have? 17. Okay, 1781. Only 12 with 19. Jerry had 1848, right? Okay. So.
Starting point is 01:04:49 Yeah, Tyreek had 1799. Hey, whoo. But he also had another 1,700-yard catch season. But the Jagg clinched the AFC South title with a 41-7 drubbing of the Titans. The Jags are 13 and 4 clenched their third division. title in nine season. Trevor threw three touchdown passes, breaking the club single season by Mark score with the Jack earned a home playoff game.
Starting point is 01:05:20 Lawrence, meanwhile, closed the regular season with 38 total touchdowns, 29 passing, nine rushing. Blake Borders had a combined 38 in 2015. Lawrence also passed Blake Borders for the second most passing yards in Jags history with 17,0646. now he trails Mark Brunel 25,0698.
Starting point is 01:05:44 Yes. Ocho, are we giving the Jags enough credit? No, we're not. Not only that, we're not giving the Jags enough credit. We're not given the job that Leon Coleman is done with the Jags. I agree. I don't know what, I don't know what Leon Cohen said.
Starting point is 01:06:03 I'm not sure what he brought in to the culture out there in Duval and Jacksonville. I'm not sure what happened with Trevor Lawrence. What is it about this season that had Trevor Lawrence looking the way he's done, looking the way he's looked all season long? And they're doing everything. They're doing all of this. They're playing well defensively.
Starting point is 01:06:23 They're playing well offensively at all three phases, in all three phases, at all three levels, right? And the Ferrari, your early first round pick didn't even touch the field on the back half of the season. Oh, Joe. I don't think he was able to be. I don't think when he comes back, I don't think they're going to let him play both ways.
Starting point is 01:06:41 I think he's going to put him at DVD. You don't think so? I think so. Parker, Parker, Washington played out of it. Hey, hey,
Starting point is 01:06:50 was he not, hey, was he came on the show? Let me get this right. Was he on the show? Hey, chat, a chat, listen,
Starting point is 01:06:57 you can do your homework, right? Look at everybody we've had on the show that is actively playing in the NFL right now, and I guarantee you, they're having a hell of a season. Absolutely. I don't know what it is.
Starting point is 01:07:07 Everybody that come on the show, they just, just doing phenomenal. Yep. It ain't a coincidence. It's not a coincidence. I mean, remember, Baker had Liam Cohen for two years.
Starting point is 01:07:21 Baker had the best two years of his career. Trevor Lawrence got Leon Cohen for one year, the best season of his career. That's not an accident. That's not an accident. Yeah. Look at Matthew Stafford when he got with Sean McVeigh. Look at Brock Purdy. He's with
Starting point is 01:07:37 Kyle. They matter. Look at, look at, look at, at Caleb Williams with Ben Johnson. Look at Jared golf with Ben Johnson. That's not an accident. Coaching matters. Yes.
Starting point is 01:07:52 Coaching matters. I have a question too. I love when people say this, right? When you know coaching does matter, right? But when you have coaches, if you don't have good players, you know, that that disrupts everything. because I don't care how way you can coach if the product on the goddamn field is just not good.
Starting point is 01:08:13 Sometimes you can overcome, if you're such a great player, Tom Brady didn't matter to coach. Pay matter, don't matter to coach. So I'm got, pay, uh, uh, uh, uh, Patrick Mahomes. Sometimes, oh, you're so great. Right. I could have coach LT. I could have coached Reggie.
Starting point is 01:08:32 I could have coached time. Sometimes you're so great, it doesn't matter. Right. When you're Kareem and you're magic and you, Come on, man. Sometimes you're above coaching. Yeah. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:08:46 Yeah. And it makes it easy, huh? It makes it easy. Sometimes when you don't have players with structure and discipline and you actually have to coach, and coaching actually matters, now that's when it comes in the play. I mean, you know what I'm talking about.
Starting point is 01:09:02 And the people in the chat really understand what I'm saying. What coach could you put over there in Las Vegas with the Raiders right now this? year that had that team not going to 11th and 40. Not Joe Gilles, not, uh,
Starting point is 01:09:15 not, uh, Coach Walsh, nobody. Yeah, I mean, right, that's what I mean.
Starting point is 01:09:22 Coach Belichick, nobody. With the players that he got, nobody. Nobody, nobody's helping that. Nobody's helping that. Hey,
Starting point is 01:09:34 y'all thought we forgot, but we're going to talk about your door a little later. I know y'all mad. What happened? He led his team down there for the game Winning Field Go. Who they was playing?
Starting point is 01:09:46 Your team. Okay, but we don't need to talk about it. Bubble gum, bubblegum, pop, bubblegum, pop. Ocho, Ocho team, a flop. Shannon's team on top. Wait, I thought your team with the Ravens. What happened?
Starting point is 01:10:05 What are you? I thought the team with the Ravens. I'm just asking. This show had on, oh, it's so funny. Hey, boy, but, hey, you had on Ravens gear not long ago. What happened? What I got on now? What I got on right now?
Starting point is 01:10:22 Hey, you only put on who's winning. You front running. You can't put on your team. You got to wear your, you got to wear a t-shirt four times, five times this year. Hey, uncle, the Raven. Hey, hold on. My team, now that, now that my two teams are in the playoffs, the dolphins didn't make it
Starting point is 01:10:42 the bangles didn't make it but I still got the bears and the Panthers in the playoffs on you got the Patriots too okay okay the Patriots too okay the Patriots Hey chat
Starting point is 01:10:57 I call the bears and the Panthers even if the Panthers had to rely on another team for them to get in the playoffs I still called it back in August I told you come on man here you go come on man
Starting point is 01:11:10 I put on Hey, we are Ravens helmet. I put on for my city. I put on. I'm cheesy. I put on. Nah. Nah.
Starting point is 01:11:21 You put on, you put on when whoever's winning, that's what you put on. I can't happen. I got two teams that win a lot. It ain't my fault. No, no, no, no. You remember that song or Joe? It ain't my fault. You got to make up your mind.
Starting point is 01:11:33 A, Master P. It ain't my fault. That's mystical. Mystical. Did I do that? right is that how the song go why you mad at me because my team win i'm i'm not mad i'm not mad i'm just i don't like that you front run and you only pick the team that's winning i can't happen because i got two teams and they win the raven didn't win the night we talked about them
Starting point is 01:12:00 we discussed my your team never win why you why you hold on you we discussed them but why you're not wearing their their their memorabilia why you're not wearing no ravens up it's been when I, when the, more time than not, normally what happens is that when the Broncos wear, I wear Broncos gear out here. The other night, the Ravens won with Huntley won against the Packers. I did wear a Braves, Beating. I did. Yeah, see what I mean?
Starting point is 01:12:27 See? You mean, Chad. He mad because he don't get to wear no gear. I'm not mad. I'm not mad. The Gulf is always lose. And, hey, listen, when they lose, I still wear their jersey. When the bangles lose, I still wear their stuff.
Starting point is 01:12:43 Because I'm a true supporter. I'm a true supporter. Win, lose or draw. Well, we just mainly win. All I do is win, win, win, no matter what. Don't even ask what's in my cup. And every time you see me, hands go up, and they stay there out,
Starting point is 01:13:02 and they stay there up down, up down, because all I drink is, Shay, Shay. Hey, hey, we can make a little album, no We can make a little song Hey, the Panthers Hey, the Panthers, hey, the Panthers The Panthers in the playoffs Oh, no, why are you hopping up another team?
Starting point is 01:13:29 You ain't even never been to Charlotte. Who ain't ever been to Charlotte? Um, what do you talk about? Man, I've been to Charlotte Motor Speedway I'd have been to a Panthers game. I don't play it against the Panthers in Charlotte and gave him that work
Starting point is 01:13:45 what you're talking about I didn't been to Charlotte I used to matter of fact I used to date a girl in Charlotte yeah never forget 2003 I wonder how she doing
Starting point is 01:13:57 I don't know yeah I wonder how she doing yeah in Charlotte I've been to Charlotte I've been to Charlotte twice I've been to Ralea I've been to Ralea you mean Ralea
Starting point is 01:14:08 Okay close enough that's how you say How you saying it is? You for real? But it's spelled R-A-L-E-I-G-H. Raleigh. That's Ralea.
Starting point is 01:14:22 Close enough. Don't worry about it. Yeah, she was nice, too, huh? My team one. Your team lost. Now let me celebrate. Go ahead, go ahead and celebrate. Go ahead.
Starting point is 01:14:37 Matter of fact, go ahead and celebrate because you're going to be feeling the same way I'm feeling in two more weeks anyway. I ain't tripping. My Broncos, all we do is win, win, win, no matter what. So don't even ask what's in my cup. And every time you see me,
Starting point is 01:14:52 cups go up and they stay down. And they stay down. They stay down. Up down. And up down. Because all I do is win, win, win, win. That was that? Yeah.
Starting point is 01:15:09 Keep saying, oh. Bye. It's one game. Oh, Joe. With this one sack of Joe Burrow in the fourth quarter, Miles Garrett reached 23 for the season, breaking the NFL single season sack record. This push of Garrett, previous record of 22 and a half, set by Pro Football Hall of Famers. Paula Famer, Michael Strayhan, and matched by T.J. Watt.
Starting point is 01:15:35 They've been a couple of guys. Justin Houston had 22. Jared Allen had 22. They've been some 21s. But no one has ever reached the total of 23. and that's what Miles Garrett did. The Salted Bingles weren't happy by the referees allowing the game stoppage
Starting point is 01:15:52 for the Browns to celebrate the record. Let's take a listen to what Zach Taylor had to say after the game. A long conversation with the officials after the Garrett's sack. What was going on there? There's five minutes left in our season. We're playing for our lives here.
Starting point is 01:16:10 And I was never told that we're going to stop the game and in a critical moment like that. and the refs just said that they made a decision that they were going to stop the game and they said they tried to do it as quickly as possible. I didn't feel that. We didn't sub. We're trying to be on the ball and go and play the tempo. And the Empire just held the ball so that we couldn't do anything.
Starting point is 01:16:30 And I'm yelling at Joe, get on the ball. We didn't sub. We're going. And then we couldn't play. And so, again, trying to get an answer was not easy. They just said that they made a decision as a crew to stop the game when that happened. I guess it didn't matter when it happened. it just, they were going to stop the game and let it happen.
Starting point is 01:16:47 And you weren't informed that? No, I was never informed to that. They didn't say one word. We meet with them in the 90-minute meeting before the game. They never said one word about that. Officials, they ain't make no decision. The NFL made a decision. Yeah, I mean, does it, Zach didn't know that?
Starting point is 01:17:03 What are you thinking? So he thought, so hold on, Ocho, so let me get this right. So he thought they were going to get this. Let me get this right now with your. So you found, so you found a chat, follow with me. So Zach thought if Miles Gair break the sack record, They're going to keep on going. Just keep going like nothing happened.
Starting point is 01:17:19 Like it was a normal sad. Wait, wait, wait, wait. Give the people context. He broke the NFL record. Since the sack became an official stat in 1982. Prior to 1982, the sack was not an official stat. There are stats where Deacon Jones had 24, 25, Coy Bacon had this or that, whatever the case may be.
Starting point is 01:17:42 In 1982, it became an official stat. With that being said, the most sacks ever occurred in an official season was 22 and a half. Michael Strayhand in 2001 and T.J. Watt, I think he was within 2021. That was, Gastinoe broke the record. I think Gastonel did the record. What was in 1984? Yes. I think 22, 22 was the record by Mark Gastonow in 1984.
Starting point is 01:18:10 So did this man, did he really, really think? Maybe I don't know Honestly with the way he the way the interview and the seriousness in his tone and face I really think he thought it was the refs not understanding that's the NFL call I don't give I don't care how much time on the clock I don't care about the situation that's going on at the time We're going to celebrate Miles Garrett getting that sack no matter what Yes
Starting point is 01:18:35 Hey and in matter of fact I told you I'm going to get my jersey I told you I told you A chat you You lost. Chat. You're fighting for your life. What life? Y'all are live support.
Starting point is 01:18:49 We've been pulled a plug on y'all. We're using your donors. Wait, what you mean? We wanted to finish our season off the right way. That's what he's. You have organ. On your license, you have Oregon donor. No, no.
Starting point is 01:19:03 We wanted to finish our season off the right way. Even if we got to go to Cancun, if we want to go to Cancun, we want to go to Cancun on a hot note. With a W. With a win. That's all That's all But hey Like I
Starting point is 01:19:16 Your heart We took that We gave it to somebody That can use it Your love We gave that To somebody that can use it So okay
Starting point is 01:19:24 You a donor I just want you to know I'm sorry I appreciate you I appreciate you It's all good Some other team got life Thanks to you
Starting point is 01:19:34 It's all good Now I want you to take Y'all sad ass home And stop complaining Y'all to the Browns. The Browns.
Starting point is 01:19:47 So you, I mean, I mean, we, we're a bad team too. So you, worse. So you want to talk,
Starting point is 01:19:53 hold on, you want to talk about the defense? How many points did the defense give up? Because you criticize the defense all the time. I want you to get your happy ass on here
Starting point is 01:20:02 and tell the chat, how did the Browns get 14 points? Turnovers? No, no, no. I want you to say turnovers. Who turned it over? The offense turned the ball. Who?
Starting point is 01:20:15 What you mean who? When you say who, I want to know who. Who turned it over? What happened? It was an interception. Well, damn. The champ might not know who played quarterback
Starting point is 01:20:29 for the Bengals. They know who played quarterback for the Bengals. He went number nine. What's on the back of it? I think it's Joe. So. Hey, you sure. Hey, you show is excited.
Starting point is 01:20:50 I'm trying to figure out what was this energy when we were talking about the Ravens. We were talking, what, what, what, what was this energy? We passed the Raven. Y'all had a, no, no, no. Y'all had a chance to go to the playoffs and blew it. We weren't going to the playoffs. We were just playing trying to win a, try to.
Starting point is 01:21:04 You're my home boy. Why are you talking to my home? Being by home, boy, we over here having a great conversation, and you ruined it. You ended up the mood. You rude. I'm just saying. We wasn't playing for nothing except the win.
Starting point is 01:21:19 We wanted, we wanted to go home on a high note. And you weren't able to do. It's cool. It's cool. I know one thing, the sun will be shining in the Cancun. Man, tell them. The son will be shining in Cancourt.
Starting point is 01:21:31 I want to go to Cancun. I ain't ever been to Cancun. Hey, let me ask you a question. Matter of fact, y'all play next week, right? No. Y'all got to buy it? Okay, well, we'll see y'all in Cancun in two weeks.
Starting point is 01:21:45 Don't worry about it. Whoa, whoa, wow. Why, ha! Hey, we'll see y'all. So you wish you ill on my team. No, no, no, I'm not. I'm just telling you. I'm just telling you, why you get, why are you here?
Starting point is 01:21:58 You're so excited. You talk a trash by my bangles. You know, we won't go into the playoffs? High five. Hey, Coach, you got the official high five, what's it called? Shelby Harris. Gave a high five with Miles Gary got the sack. I mean, listen, ain't no thing.
Starting point is 01:22:17 I got my jersey, though. You heard me? Hey, he did, hey, I can't turn his hand. Can I turn his hand? Don't break, don't break it. We don't worry about we do the six, seven. We do the six, seven. Hey, what you know about six, seven, huh?
Starting point is 01:22:35 I don't know. I know, I know y'all team ain't going nowhere. And we use y'all for parks. That's fine. We'll be back next year. You said that last year. Don't worry about it. Eventually, you're going to be right, though, Cho.
Starting point is 01:22:50 Oh, I was, I was, I'm always right. No, you're not. I'm always right. I didn't get it. I didn't get a chance to thank Miles Garrett. I got to go to the bathroom. Go ahead. Hey, chat.
Starting point is 01:22:59 Hold it down. Hey, Chad. I'm glad y'all get to be with me real quick. Obviously, Miles Garrett now, the NFL sack leader with 23 sacks. I talked to Miles Gary after the game. He's going to send me that jersey. He's going to send me that game jersey. I'm happy.
Starting point is 01:23:15 I'm elated. I'm excited. And I'm going to hang it. I'm getting ready to do my game room. They're getting ready to do my game room in about two, three weeks. and change everything up. So when I get all my wars from Ash and Unk, they're going to be right here placid behind me. And I'm going to put a Ocho jersey in a Miles Garrett jersey on the other side.
Starting point is 01:23:34 And that is going to be one of my prized possessions that I've ever gotten from anyone. And I appreciate Miles for that. And I think that's a dope thing. That's a dope thing. I'm sure that people in Can probably want it, but it's not happening. It's not happening because he promised me the jersey first. And I'd hate. I had hate to have to beat Miles Garrett ass for lying to me and not giving me that jersey.
Starting point is 01:23:59 And that's pretty much it. And that makes me happy. Where you go, Aunt? Ash, where on go? Oh, my bad. Chat, talk to me. Cap, I'm not lying, man. Y'all always talk about I'm lying. Why would I lie?
Starting point is 01:24:22 What do I get out of lying? Think about it. What do I get? What do I gain out of that? I got the jersey. He signed it for me. He's mailing it to me. And it'll probably be here Tuesday.
Starting point is 01:24:32 Yeah, I like it. What's the next game? To about Broncos. Bronco got the bye week. He talked about my, he excited by the damn bang was losing, but the Ravens done lost, and he was all happy and elated like y'all, like they ain't going home too.
Starting point is 01:24:57 But we all in Cancun. What other jerseys I got? Oh, I got some of the best jersey, man, my jersey collection. I got a tour jersey and a Zach Wilson jersey Joe Burrow Jamar Chasing T. Higgins that's it
Starting point is 01:25:18 Not just any jersey I got like the 1980 Hold on What are doing, chat? Hey, hey, I'm showing I'm showing people my jersey You see
Starting point is 01:25:37 You see this? Remember the leaping tire? Yeah This during this during unk time Back in the 80s See? Nobody got this.
Starting point is 01:25:48 This is 101. So I'm hanging this next to Miles. When Miles sent me to Jersey, I'm hanging next to that one. I heard a lot of people talking about, well, T.J. Watt broke the record in this many games. And we're not going to do that. Because when Jerry said the NFL record for the most touchdowns in a single season, he did it in 12 games. Randy broke his record in 16 games. And y'all didn't say that.
Starting point is 01:26:16 When Eric Dickinson broke OJ's record, OJ rushed for 2014 games. Nobody ever said that. Now this man got the record. Y'all want to come up with all this stuff. He did it in 15. The NFL sack record is 23. Miles Garrett holds it. He did, y'all talk about games.
Starting point is 01:26:38 Look at the amount of snaps that it took Miles Garrett to break that record, which is the equivalent of probably like five games. Don't do that. Don't try to shortchange the man. Again, when Randy Moss broke, Jerry Rice's record. Jerry Rice had 22 touchdowns in 12 games. Yeah, but they threw the man the ball.
Starting point is 01:26:59 They threw the ball every play. And nobody said anything. The NFL record now is 23. Miles Garrett holds it. So I don't want to hear nothing about how many games. I don't want to hear about nothing. Miles Garrett holds the NFL sack record. Because a lot of these records, I mean, when Jim Brown did what he's doing, they're playing 12 games.
Starting point is 01:27:27 Ain't nobody say nothing. OJ did what he did in 14 games. Rested his soul, rest of him brown sold. Now y'all, because somebody broke it, if y'all team guy don't have the record no more, y'all try to minimize the guy, but I ain't going to let y'all do it
Starting point is 01:27:41 because I'm old enough to remember. I don't think, man, who would do that, huh? It's an amazing accomplishment. They're doing it. A lot of Pittsburgh students fans are doing it. Talk about he did it in 15 games. Man, it doesn't matter how many games you got it done. You got it done.
Starting point is 01:28:00 It doesn't matter. That's an amazing feat. You know how hard. Yeah. Any record. But you know how hard it is? I mean, you look at the comparison between someone like a T.J. Watt, a Miles Garrett, a Brian Burns in the season that they had in here.
Starting point is 01:28:16 They're an unbelievable seasons. You know how many defense is it? It is in NFL? That are nowhere close to that. That is crazy. Maybe people don't understand. Maybe you don't understand how hard it is to get a sack. And eventually somebody's going to break Payton's record.
Starting point is 01:28:34 Payton threw for 5,400 and 7477. He could have had more because he came out at half. Hold on. That's the 55 touchdown. Somebody's going to throw. Hey, it is what it is. He broke the record. Dan Marino had the record at 50.
Starting point is 01:28:53 No, to take that back, at 48. Tom had the record 50 Peyton broke that record with 55 somebody going to throw 65 it is what it is guys they did the same thing with Roger Maris broke Brave Ruth record
Starting point is 01:29:14 they tried to put an asterisk by for the longest no we're not we're not we not we not because every time y'all try to do it I'm going to remind you, somebody had the record in less games than when they broke the record. Right. And y'all didn't say it. Think about it.
Starting point is 01:29:34 Sacks only became an official stat. The interception, I mean, think about it. What was the record, Dick Knight Train Lane, he got 14. I think they played like 12 games back then. Some records ain't going to be broken. That 81 interceptions ain't nobody getting 81 interceptions on during the career. You can forget that. Who had 81 interceptions?
Starting point is 01:29:57 81. Oh. Yes. Eighty one. How many years he played? I think Cross played like 14, 15. He played 16, crossplay 16. Ain't nobody breaking it.
Starting point is 01:30:20 They can play 20. Eighty one. I think Rod, how many Rod got, Rod got like, Rod Wilson got 71? Yes. A, hey, Rob would they? A, Rob was he right? Rod was a corner moved to safety.
Starting point is 01:30:38 Rod had great hands. Yeah. Guys that if you could catch, a lot of guys can't catch. Like Ed, Ed, Reed could like really, really catch. No, but Rod could really, really catch. Mm-hmm. Damn, that's crazy, man. You go back and look at some of these staff.
Starting point is 01:30:56 Now, eventually, look, with all these games, somebody's probably going to pass, catch 1,500. I think Jerry got over 1,500. And by the time they played 10, 12 years, Ocho, that's an equivalent, that's another season. Damn. It is what it is. That's unfair. That's unfair because now, you know, those whose records are getting broken, you can't play no more.
Starting point is 01:31:22 I want to see the guy that break Jerry touchdown record, that $197 receiving. I want to see that. That's your hope I'm allowed to see that. That's going to be hard. Think about it, Ocho. That's a lot of touchdowns. The man got 2,500 yards after the age of 40. Hey, at a dependent position.
Starting point is 01:31:42 Yes. The man caught 1,200 yards at 40. Yeah. It went to the Pro Bowl. So. Hey, you got to be in good with the organization, but you got to be in good, right? A hundred.
Starting point is 01:32:04 To even put you in position to allow you the opportunities, to be able to have success in production at that age, you've got to be good with that organization. And also, you can't be a goddamn salary cap casualty. So that's the problem. And in Brett Far, what, 300 consecutive starts? Oh, he was healthy. He was always available.
Starting point is 01:32:24 Yes. Do you know how many, do you know how many, I mean, 300, oh, Cho? Yeah, that's a lot. That's a lot. So you got to get off to a great start. You got to start off with 12. You got to get, you got to have a couple of scenes of double DJ. picks to even think about getting the 80.
Starting point is 01:32:44 That fours and fives ain't going to cut it. No. Because you play 15 years and you get four picks a season or five picks a season. That's still 75. You're going to have to do a lot of gambling too now. But you got to start. You got to get that number early. But you got to move to a safety position because you ain't fit to be playing no corner position
Starting point is 01:33:09 unless you're Darrell Green. All the even great corner. corners, they start to fall off, and then they move to the safety. They go to safety. You look at time. He moved to safety. Rod moved to safety. Ania's moved to safety.
Starting point is 01:33:23 Only Darrell played his entire career at the corner position. Yeah. Man, hell, prime was that safety when we played the Ravens when he wore 37. And I think the thing is, Ocho, is that I get, look. I get, I remember, I remember on Monday night. When the Jets played the Raiders and Tim Brown caught his hundred touchdown. Man, they brought everybody on the field.
Starting point is 01:33:50 They brought Tim Mama. They brought his wife. They bought the kid. They stopped the game for like 20 minutes. Real? Yes. Nobody looked at a building Monday night. They brought everybody on the field.
Starting point is 01:34:04 They must have been playing home. He's lucky. Okay, okay, okay. Can you imagine if they had played in Cleveland? They brought his mom and dad out the stairs. Yes. they probably would have well they couldn't have
Starting point is 01:34:17 they couldn't have a TJ because TJ were playing and Strayhead was in studio because they normally a lot of times and so I was going to break the record the guys were retired and so they have the guy to pass it because when I broke
Starting point is 01:34:30 Ozzy's record he's the general manager he's there he handed me to football right but now we're not going to do that yet Miles Garrett is now the NFL single season sack leader. Hey, at the pace he's going, he's going to be the NFL sack leader with his
Starting point is 01:34:49 offset and done. Because he got, how many he got now, Ash, almost 130? He got 125 sacks. Have he played 10 years? He's nine years. And he only, and he only 30 now? Yeah. Oh, Joe, he just finished his ninth year. So the record, so he needs 76 sacks to be the all-time leader. Bruce he played like 19 years. Yeah. Oh, listen, he has a good chance to get it. Long as he stayed healthy, he has a great chance to look. Reggie had 198 in 15 years. Ain't getting that.
Starting point is 01:35:47 Ain't. But you got to realize Reggie played one year in the U.S.F. 1984, I think it was 84. He played in the U.S.F. Might have been 83. He played his first season in Memphis because he's a Tennessee and it was regional then, you know what I'm saying? Right.
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