Nightcap - Best of Nightcap - Best guest appearances: Deion Sanders, Kai Cenat & more

Episode Date: July 16, 2024

BEST OF: Shannon Sharpe and Chad “Ochocinco” Johnson’s interviews and special guest appearances, including their conversations with University of Colorado head coach Deion Sanders, Twitch star K...ai Cenat, San Francisco 49ers wide receiver Brandon Aiyuk, and second overall pick in the 2024 NFL Draft Jayden Daniels.03:40 - Deion Sanders30:55 - Kai Cenat46:38 - Brandon Aiyuk1:13:00 - Jayden Daniels(Timestamps may vary based on advertisements.)#Volume #ClubSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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Starting point is 00:04:05 The guy that just dropped down and gave you 15 push-ups right quick in the Jets jersey is your favorite number 85, Bengals ring of famer, one of the great round- The greatest, the greatest. What up, what up? The greatest.
Starting point is 00:04:19 Chad Ochozico-Johnson and the guy in the box to the top left, now that's my dog. Me and this dude going, hey. Y'all want to do this? Hey, y'all want to do this? How do it? You ain't tell me you was going to wear everybody glasses.
Starting point is 00:04:33 How y'all want to do it? Hey, now, during the season, I didn't bother. But once the season been over, I've been on his phone. We've been talking every day. That's my dog. You know it. Coach Prime, the greatest quarterback of all time, one of the top five defenders in NFL history.
Starting point is 00:04:51 Top five? Top five? He don't talk five. He don't talk five. Who we debating with, Ty? Who we? Five. How you going to put me in the top five?
Starting point is 00:04:59 That's insinuating. Last thing they heard was five. You can't do that. You jump at LT? Eh? I'm supposed to be scared of LT? Just because of the LT? What?
Starting point is 00:05:13 Come on. Yeah, tell them where we from. Where we from? From the crib? Hey, you remember the last time we was at the Hall of Fame, and I got on LT and Ricky Jack, we started joining backstage. But we'll save that for a little later in the show. Ardell, a tap of your ass.
Starting point is 00:05:28 Coach Prime, if you could choose as a head coach, would you be the head coach or the general manager of the Chargers? I don't want to do pros. I love college. I would never do pros. Uh-uh. I don't believe that. That's a lie.
Starting point is 00:05:43 I don't believe that. Prime, you're the very listen to me stay with me baby you are the very person who had a song called must be the money that's turning me and if they show you if they show you that money
Starting point is 00:05:58 over there in LA guess where we gonna be at notice I said we guess where we gonna be at I'm so glad you said that so let me address this one thing at a time must be the money was a testimony i wasn't bragging about the money i was saying must be the money that's turning y'all on i said diamond rolex gators on my feet i got a pair every day of the week my hands down my fingernails two six buttons down i don't know what this do must be money. I was saying y'all changed.
Starting point is 00:06:26 Right, right, right. It must be the money. Now, secondly, I'm straight. Come on. Come on. I'm talking about it everything I need, man.
Starting point is 00:06:33 I'm having the time of my life. I love going to Colorado. I love the kids that I get to coach. I love the recruiting process. I love it. I like the way it sounds. And I like the purity
Starting point is 00:06:44 of the young men. Yes, sir. You know. I like the way it sounds. I like the purity of the young men. I like the sensitivities and I like all the amateurism of it, even though it's turning to pros because everybody want a bag now. But I would have a hard time in a locker room with a guy
Starting point is 00:07:00 that's making a multitude of millions and he don't want to play. I don't want to give his all. I would have a problem with that, Chad. A real problem with that. And you know, we had teammates like, I can't do that. And I'll be trying to tell Ocho. Ocho said he ain't never played with nobody like that. Yes, he did.
Starting point is 00:07:15 He just didn't want to see it. Wait, they just played for the money? Played for the money, just didn't really want to give it their all. Just wouldn't want to play. They had a lot of talent and they didn't, want to give it their all, just wouldn't want to play. They had a lot of talent and they just messed it around. Well, messed it around by doing things off the
Starting point is 00:07:32 field, not on the field. And on the field, just don't want to do right. Yeah, see, I ain't pay attention like that, honestly. I ain't going to lie to you. And I don't want you in L.A. You can't be in L.A. First of all, L.A. too expensive for me. You know how cheap I am. I'm not getting a house. I don't want you in LA. You can't be in LA. First of all, LA too expensive for me. You know how cheap I am.
Starting point is 00:07:47 I'm not getting a house. I don't like California. I don't like it. I'm trying to get closer to Shannon so he can take you. I want to sit close to him. You haven't got that hint? I don't. Have he ever invited you anywhere to California?
Starting point is 00:08:01 No. He don't even answer my damn text message. Thank you. I'll meet you somewhere if you get there. Then he gonna be evasive on getting there based on what's in there. Right, right, right, right. That's who he is. You ain't know who he is.
Starting point is 00:08:16 He don't want us there. First of all, he need to get his butt back in Atlanta. That's what he need to do. No, I don't need to be back in Atlanta. No, I don't. Well, you said you were taking me to the place with the booty juice. Magic soup. First of all,
Starting point is 00:08:31 you still got your house there? How you got a house there and you don't invite nobody and don't even let nobody use it? That's selfish. That's why I call him selfish all of that. He's selfish. Hey, can I use it for Airbnb? I talked to Magic. I talk to Magic.
Starting point is 00:08:46 Magic say, come on in. Magic. First of all, Magic is a hero, a national treasure. Let's get that right. Magic. Magic ain't in one of the games. Still looking good. Still fly.
Starting point is 00:08:54 Magic is still Magic. You talking about somebody that should have a movie, a documentary done? Yeah. Yeah. Magic changed everybody's life. Yeah. And. Magic changed everybody's life. Yeah. And just talk game.
Starting point is 00:09:06 I mean, Magic just taught you game and all that, man. I love Magic. But Ty, you remember when you first got into the league and when I came into the league and there was no defensive receiver and you could attack the quarterback. They was trying to hit your mama. They was trying to hit your mama in the stands right there, boy. Hey. Hey, man. Don't hurt my baby. was trying to hit your mama in the stands back then, boy. Hey, hey man.
Starting point is 00:09:27 Don't hurt my baby. Your mama in the stands, don't hurt my baby. They gonna lay your baby ass out. I remember running loud telling one of our receivers, I'm gonna kill you, boy. I said, ooh, ooh, he meant that. He meant that. And they literally tried to knock,
Starting point is 00:09:43 I mean, literally. They didn't want to hurt you for the, this is like, if they knock – they didn't want to hurt you for the entirety of the season, but they try to knock your ass out of the game. Yes, sir. Who's next? Who's next? Ty, do you – Ty, do you remember ever defending a one-step slant?
Starting point is 00:09:56 The way these guys run one-step slant routes now? Man, them linebackers, Singletary, them guys, John Offredall, those guys would knock you in the next week. They're not getting hit right now. The game is different. The game is different. And back to what Brady said, and as far as the league being watered down, this is because of the competition committee.
Starting point is 00:10:16 This is because of the NFL, because the NFL wanted to make the offenses have score points, make the game more entertaining for fans, so fans could be engaged a little bit more. So now they've handicapped defensive players where they throwing flags on everything. You can't hit nobody in a minute. I said it trying to be funny in a minute.
Starting point is 00:10:34 They going to be playing two hand touch. Well, they did it. They don't, they did it. Now they did it at the Pro Bowl. At the Pro Bowl. You remember now,
Starting point is 00:10:40 we were dead serious at the Pro Bowl come second half. Oh yeah. Oh, that second half. Hey, that second half. We were trying to pay for Pro Bowl come second half. Oh, yeah. Oh, wait, listen. That second half? Hey, that second half? That second half? We were trying to pay for everything. It was coming.
Starting point is 00:10:49 Because we got that bill. It was coming. Yeah. Yeah. Hold on, hold on, hold on. So, room service was weak. Oh, no, no, no. Hey, hey, man.
Starting point is 00:10:58 We got to pay for this. We got to win. Yeah. We got to win. Yes. Yeah. We was playing to pay for the room service and the expenses. Mm-hmm.
Starting point is 00:11:09 Because you done brought family members on time. You already the difference. That was it. You know, we learned that the first time. Mm-hmm. Never again. And that was the thing. But, Ty, remember, you and I talked about it.
Starting point is 00:11:22 I said, they're going to do away with this. They had to. The owners and Commissioner Goodell. I was like, how you go over there and you literally don't – this is tackle football. And you touch the guy and the guy stops. I got a confession. I got a confession about the Pro Bowl, man.
Starting point is 00:11:36 I'm not going to even lie to you. Okay. After I got that bill, I literally ordered a little refrigerator to the room. You did. I was there that year. You ordered that refrigerator. I had to put it in my room. And I went to the grocery store and got some cereal and some milk.
Starting point is 00:11:52 I said, we're going to stop this. Y'all can eat breakfast right here. We're going to stop this. I remember that. Right here. At that time, you remember that time we had transferred to the Elani. Because at first we had to hit the Hawaiian village. Chad, oh my
Starting point is 00:12:08 God, you? At the hit the Hawaiian village? First of all, everybody was air-batted. It wasn't secluded. They used to let everybody name mama over at the Hawaiian village. You run into everybody, huh? Oh, you come out the room and just see somebody you went to high school with.
Starting point is 00:12:24 It was open like that. Right, right, right. But I saw somebody I didn't go to high school with, but I wanted to go to high school with. That's what I'm trying to tell you. You know what I'm talking about? That's what I'm trying to tell you. That's what I'm trying to tell you.
Starting point is 00:12:39 Those were the days. Man, y'all shut up, man. Yeah. Those were the days and it was back then you couldn't tell nobody hey man hey what room you in you yelling if you want to hey the all the whole bill the whole bar bill would be on you and you don't know what happened that's right yeah you'd have told the wrong person your room number. Nah, man, I ain't even staying here. I'd have told you up.
Starting point is 00:13:07 I'd have told you up, Chad. Told up who? You'd have put that back on the deck. Oh, oh, oh. You know it's on you. Hey, listen. You might be the greatest. You are the greatest. Ain't no mate.
Starting point is 00:13:17 Ain't no mate. Ain't no mate. Take the mic out. Take the mic out. You wouldn't have touched me. You wouldn't have touched me at the last. What you mean who? Who you can hear? I'm talking to you. Don't play. First of all wouldn't have touched me at the last. What you mean who? Who you can hear.
Starting point is 00:13:25 I'm talking to you. Don't play. First of all. Don't play. Don't play. Okay. You could not run me. So I'm not going.
Starting point is 00:13:32 I don't need to run you. I can do one thing that nobody else can. I'm going to put so many hands on you. I guarantee you're going to file. You're going to go make a police report. Listen. Listen. It's going to be a police report.
Starting point is 00:13:44 Don't do me like that. Don't do me be a police report. Don't do me like that. Check my resume. Don't do me like that. I did. It's one thing you're going to do. I did. You're going to touch me off the line? These feet?
Starting point is 00:13:54 You're going to touch these feet off the line? Did you forget about these feet? Did you forget about these feet? Yeah, listen. They paid you to cover people. They paid me for my feet alone. They paid me to put butts in seats. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:14:07 You know what's funny? I did that for a decade, too. Yeah. Yeah. All right. But you got to understand, back when Ty played, you could put hands on people. What you mean? When I played, you could put hands on people.
Starting point is 00:14:23 I was going to bless him. Man, they thought I was being here. They thought I was being here. Huh? You blessed me. You blessed me. I put hands on you. Listen, you would have came out there playing.
Starting point is 00:14:35 You would have got a communion. You would have got a... You who? Huh? You know better. You know better. See, you got to talk the rest of it. You know you can...
Starting point is 00:14:44 Huh? You know what it is. You know what? to talk the rest of it. You know you can. Huh? You know what it is. You know what? When I see you, it's on sight. And I ain't coming with what I ain't got, but I ain't. You better not say nothing. Yeah. You better not say nothing, because I know you're ready to jump in there.
Starting point is 00:14:57 I know you're ready to jump in there. Hey, Chad, he going to come to my house, my building, and talk about me like a dog. Hey. He talking to me like a dog. Hey. He talking to me like a dog, man. Hey. Ty, boy, you got... Hey, Ochoa, let me tell you how you beat him.
Starting point is 00:15:12 Release inside. He only got two toes on that right foot. You know what I'm saying? You know what I'm saying, dog? You know what I'm saying? Dog, that's bad, man. You supposed to be praying for me, and you coming at me.
Starting point is 00:15:23 No, that ain't right, man. That's my dog dang we gonna pray for him we gonna pray for him but I know one thing I don't care where I see you it don't matter it could be at the game it could be at church we could be at somebody's
Starting point is 00:15:38 funeral we could be in the street we could be in the parking lot it's on site every time you know what I'm proud of you? Because you spend a lot of time with your wife and all that. Don't let me catch you with your wife. What happened? She ain't going to look at you the same.
Starting point is 00:15:52 Shit me. If you think I'm going to look in front of her. She ain't going to look at you the same when I get done. If you think I'm going to look in front of her, you got another thought coming. Don't let me catch you with your wife. It's on site. Time, time.
Starting point is 00:16:04 Time, he losing in front of her and other people. And you know you're losing in front of your wife. She ain't going to look at you and say no more. Hey, hey, hey, boy, that's a bad thing, boy. You're losing in front of your wife. You can't lose in front of your wife. Listen, and we just playing. Imagine you get in the fight, and your baby,
Starting point is 00:16:17 she got to help you get up, and you get knocked out. You get home. She got to tell you, baby, it was OK. You can't even raise your voice in the house. You can't even raise your voice no more. Hey, Ocho, we just hit a live 40,000 in the chat live right now. 40,000? Congratulations, Coach Prime, for joining us.
Starting point is 00:16:35 I love it. And doing this for us. You know y'all my dog. 40,000? Y'all know my dog. But, Ty, you got to give me credit. I leave you alone during the season. Because you know how we used to talk.
Starting point is 00:16:48 Not really. I be calling you. You do? But I be busy. You see all the jobs I got? I'm part of your nature. You ain't nothing too busy for us. And I always check on Chad.
Starting point is 00:16:58 I always check on Chad. I checked on you once. I didn't want to bother you. I didn't want to bother you. Quit lying. Both of y'all lying. But you did tell me you was coming to see me. You told me you was going to come get on the field with receivers.
Starting point is 00:17:09 I ain't seen you yet. Wait. I can't because I got like 37 jobs right now. I can't even get out of town. You're supposed to. You don't work all year. You could have came in the summer. You could have came in camp.
Starting point is 00:17:19 You could have came in the time. You're lying. Wait, wait. I have a little. Shannon be lying to me. Right. And he won't show up. I got a question. I got a question. he will show up. I got a question.
Starting point is 00:17:25 He's lying about some other stuff that we can't get him to lie about. I got a question. I got a question. I got a question. But he don't want to. Okay. I got a question. So listen.
Starting point is 00:17:32 Listen. I'm going to put you on the spot. I'm going to put you on the spot right now. Since I already have 37 jobs, let's make it 38. How about you have me to come be the assistant receiver coach? You don't want to do that. You ain't dedicated like that. But I done had instruction disciplines in 1968. Yeah, but you ain't to do that. You ain't dedicated like that. But I didn't have instruction
Starting point is 00:17:45 and disciplines in 1968. Yeah, but you ain't dedicated like that to coach. You dedicated to play, but you ain't dedicated to coach. You ain't do that. You ain't like that. That's a whole different ball game.
Starting point is 00:17:53 Right? So you basically, you going to try to give me some mumbo jumbo and just say, you know what, I don't want to hire you. Why don't you just say no? No, I will bring you in
Starting point is 00:18:01 as an analyst, but you can't be there every day. You ain't going to be there every day. I know you. You do know I know but you can't be there every day. You ain't going to be there every day. I know you. You do know I know you. Listen, I love the kids. No, you love the kids. I got to let my –
Starting point is 00:18:11 Yeah, you love the kids. That's why you love the game. But you're not going to be there every day. Where's your coach? Where am I going to be at? He'll get back at us. He texted all of us this morning saying he'll get back at us. But, see,
Starting point is 00:18:26 before he got the job, when he didn't have the job at Jackson State, we talked at least four or five times a day. Really not about football, just a lot about a bull job. Okay, he goes to Jackson State
Starting point is 00:18:36 and I call him two or three times a week, mainly about bull jobs, a little bit of football. But when he got there, that's the first year I said, I gotta let him get in there. Let him get in there. Let him get in there, figure that the first year I said, I gotta let him get in there.
Starting point is 00:18:46 Let him get in there, figure that bag out. And then, you know, I will hit him up. Now, this year ain't gonna be like last year because you already know what to expect. You done got in good. So now I'm today. Hold on. You know what I just thought about? Hey, I just thought about, I done got turned down
Starting point is 00:19:01 two brothers that I love. Y'all supposed to uplift me. I done asked both of y'all to do something for me. What's that? I done got turned down two brothers that I love. Y'all supposed to uplift me. I done asked both of y'all to do something for me. What did you do? I done asked Unc, right? I've been begging him for three months. Man, get me on first tape. He done sold me a dream.
Starting point is 00:19:16 I done asked you to let me come be a coach at or assistant at Colorado. You done told me no. So both of y'all done turned me down. And we got a bunch of people. I mean. You do know we know you. Y'all supposed to be helping me climb the mountain. Now I heard what Shannon did to you, but he was right.
Starting point is 00:19:35 He said, let me get in here first and let me work it out. And let me do my thing. He done been in there three months. Three months. But he ain't in all the way yet. He don't know everybody's name. He just get in there. And, you know, he just getting straight.
Starting point is 00:19:48 He just got the whole makeup situation straight. So, you know, he just getting there. There you go. See, I knew you. You dirty, Ty. You dirty. You dirty. Chad told me to say that.
Starting point is 00:19:58 Okay, anyway. Okay. Anyway. He got all that straight. Now he good. Right. I know you. I've been knowing you. Right. I know you. I've been knowing you.
Starting point is 00:20:06 You know I know you. If you give me a job, I will move to Colorado, man. I will uproot everything in Miami and I will come to Colorado. That's a lie. You know that's a lie. Boy, if grandma was alive right now, she'd cut you out. You know if grandma was alive right now, she'd cut you out. Now you know.
Starting point is 00:20:23 And Shannon, what I'm talking about his grandma, that was my girl. He know grandma cussing out if he's lying. Grandma know I know you. I got my right hand up. I got my right hand up. That's your left hand up.
Starting point is 00:20:34 That's your left. That's your left. On TV, that's your right. But that's it. But we ain't gonna say nothing. Oh, you think you're funny? That's why we know you. Because we already know you.
Starting point is 00:20:44 Yeah. Hey, listen. I just want an opportunity, man. I'm trying to get with y'all. That's an we know you. We already know you. I just want an opportunity, man. I'm trying to get with y'all. I give him a platform. Get him on here three, four times a week. I mean, I got the poor teeth. Hey, you coming today? Has he been on time?
Starting point is 00:21:01 I'm always on time. I ain't never late. I ain't never late. I might not wear watch that work, but I'm going to be on time? Oh, I'm always on time. I ain't never late. I ain't never late. That's the lie. Listen, I might not wear a watch that work, but I'm going to be on time. Now? I don't know about all that. Now?
Starting point is 00:21:12 Not historically. You know what? I've never been late nowhere. I set my watch five minutes ahead on purpose, so I never go anywhere, never be anywhere late. Do you really want me to call Marvin Lewis right now? Huh? Oh, I ain't never showed anywhere late. Do you really want me to call Marvin Lewis right now? Huh? Oh, I ain't never showed up late to no meeting.
Starting point is 00:21:30 You know you're lying. Not that, you know, I got CTE, I can't even remember. You lived at the complex. How you lived at the complex and you was late? That's what I don't understand. Oh no, because nobody woke me up. Nobody woke me up. That was only in my career now.
Starting point is 00:21:46 Do you remember the strength and conditioning coaches, Chip, and Friday? Who? Cincinnati Bengals. I'm talking to you. Ray Oliver and Chip, Chip Morton. Yeah, and then Friday came in as an assistant. Okay, so you know I know them. They were with me in Baltimore.
Starting point is 00:22:04 Yeah, you know we know. Everybody know each other. It's like a fraternity. Yeah, I you know I know them. They were with me in Baltimore. Yeah, you know we know everybody know each other. It's like a fraternity. Yeah, I mean, we all family, but I just don't like when, I don't like things being said about me that aren't true. Sometimes, you know, that's not true. One thing about it, I'm never late. No, that was true, though. You was late and you lived in the complex.
Starting point is 00:22:20 Like, how do you do that? But you said they didn't wake you up. I take that. It's like you being in the grocery store and starving. How you starving in the grocery store? I don't even understand that, dog. You're not gonna be 250. You're not gonna be 300 though, Joe. That's not your body frame.
Starting point is 00:22:36 Look how narrow you're 20. You see how your shoulders are now? He don't like you to call him narrow now. Look at your shoulders. I'm not narrow, I'm 220. What are you talking about narrow? Look, I'm 220. You've never been 200 in your life, hey. Yeah, I'm 220. What are you talking about now? No, you've never been 200 in your life, hey.
Starting point is 00:22:47 I'm 220 right now? What are y'all talking about? No. I don't think you've ever hit 200 in your life, hey. Nah, never. Hey, Pratt, you know how they used to have it at the NFL experience? They had that jersey and the little kids
Starting point is 00:23:04 go stick their head in that thing and you see the little body hanging. That's what he looked like in that jersey right there. He always been shredded. I'm ripped now. You've always been that way. Yeah, don't play. Jacob commented,
Starting point is 00:23:20 we all know Unk brushed his teeth immediately after the game. I saw that though. I don't do it as much as you do, but I probably brushed about five times a day. Jacob commented, we all know Unk brushed his teeth immediately after the game. Oh, yeah. I saw that, though. But I had big red. I don't do it as much as you do, but I probably brush about five times a day. Like, after I eat, I have to brush after I eat every time. Like, I'm just. Thank you.
Starting point is 00:23:35 I mean, you said 10 times a day. That's excessive. Somebody told Shannon. I'm going to tell you what happened. And this, Shannon ain't tell y'all. I'm going to tell y'all because I love y'all. Somebody told Shannon when he was going to tell you what happened. And this, Shannon ain't tell y'all. I'm going to tell y'all because I love y'all. Somebody told Shannon when he was younger that his breath stank. I know we can play like they did.
Starting point is 00:23:52 But somebody told him that his breath stank. And he was defensive. And he wanted to defuse that. So he just went over-breshing. Because somebody told, like, somebody. Somebody said, move. I ain't never. Honestly, I've never had that.
Starting point is 00:24:09 Well, not anyone that told me because you know, that's a very tough conversation to have. No, it ain't. Now when you from Florida, we had that conversation. Oh yeah. I've always been the one to point out those things that nobody want to talk about. You know, yeah, I mean, but you know, you got to make a joke of it.
Starting point is 00:24:22 No time. You just can't say man, your mouth, you got to make it. You ain't got to make no joke. You say, Hey, wait, I mean, but you got to make a joke of it, though, Ty. You just can't say, man, your mouth. You got to make a joke of it. You ain't got to make no joke. You say, hey, boy, you want a piece of gum? No. No, I'm like, I'm going to kick the hand up under your tongue. Why your tongue hard?
Starting point is 00:24:41 Like, you're doing it in conversation. Yeah. You got to make a joke. I've always pointed out those things that people wouldn't point out. Somebody said something. Yeah, you brazen. He said- But you know what you finna count the money that we done spend on these things, man. I got to keep it light.
Starting point is 00:25:00 It's tough calls. I got mad when I first started doing TV. Give me the whole grill. How much the started doing TV. Give me the whole grill. How much the whole grill cost? Give me the whole grill. All 32. Every last one of them came back.
Starting point is 00:25:14 Bad. All 32. Bad. Jay, you would love to get down with them and they real ones too, man. Like they, they, they love the game.
Starting point is 00:25:25 They talk, they talk and I let them be unapolog with them. And they're real ones too, man. Like, they love the game. They talk. They talk. And I let them be unapologetically them. I want them to be with me. Oh, we got talkers out there? Oh, we got some talkers too. Okay, that's where I need to be. Yeah, we got some talkers.
Starting point is 00:25:33 That's where I need to be. See, that alone should tell you why you need to hire me. That alone right there. But I know you ain't going to do right. I promise I'm going to do right. I got structure and discipline. Now? I got something that can't be taught. There's a certain
Starting point is 00:25:49 it factor that I was born with. You do have that. I can pass it off to them young fellas. Shannon, what you think? Don't lie. Why you hate? Thank you, Shannon. See what I'm talking'm talking about? See, Shannon ain't gonna lie to me.
Starting point is 00:26:05 First, see, he ain't bringing me on first take. He ain't gonna lie to me. Now he's saying, I don't need to go work for you. He ain't gonna lie to me. Y'all trying to keep a brother, y'all trying to keep a brother down. First of all, you work with me. You're never gonna work for me. How I keep you down when I elevated you?
Starting point is 00:26:13 When I elevated you. He ain't gonna, he ain't gonna. We got a show called Uncle Nocho. Right. Listen, I can do Uncle Nocho. Who gave you a show? I can do Uncle Nocho from K-9. I can do Uncle Nocho from K-9.
Starting point is 00:26:21 I can do Uncle Nocho from K-9. I can do Uncle Nocho from K-9. I can do Uncle Nocho from K-9. I can do Uncle Nocho from K-9. I can do Uncle Nocho from K-9. I can do Uncle Nocho from K-9. I can do Uncle Nocho from K-9. I show called Uncle Nocho. Listen, I can do Uncle Nocho from Colorado. You know we went to the Hall of Fame together, right? So we got an unbelievable bond. You do know that, right?
Starting point is 00:26:35 Yeah. I'm in the Hall of Fame, too. I put on my own goddamn jacket. No, you did. Yeah. My jacket 101. Your jacket, everybody got them. That's you did. Yeah. My jacket 101. Your jacket, everybody got them. That's a lie.
Starting point is 00:26:48 That's a lie there. I'm talking about... Wait, wait, wait. Let me take that back. Everybody that's in got one of them. I got... Hey, listen.
Starting point is 00:26:57 I got a bust, too. My bust 14 carry gold. You want to see it? Mm-mm. Okay. I'm just letting you know. You'll be farting stuff around your bust.
Starting point is 00:27:04 Your bust be all yeah exactly come on come on come on your your bus your bus probably yeah i don't know about y'all but i gotta go to work in the morning why you always why you always trying to get off man that's how he is that's how he is man you see he didn't even say nothing he just just said, hey, okay, that's it. I got to go to work. You have no idea how he treats me. You have no idea, Chad.
Starting point is 00:27:30 You have no idea. Listen, he treat me bad. He just told me no when you asked for a reference to come to Colorado. And I'm still a friend. I don't do no coaching. I don't do no recommendation. See what I mean? He ain't lying about that, man.
Starting point is 00:27:44 He ain't lying about that. I don't do no recommendations. See what I mean? He ain't lying about that, man. He ain't lying about that. He definitely recommend nobody to nothing. Damn. Ocho, you know what this is, Ocho? It looks like some Jordans. They burgundy. Burgundy and orange. That's the ugly colorway. That's not burgundy, though.
Starting point is 00:27:59 That's red? Yeah. It's burgundy on my end. No, that's red. You got to do something with your camera and your TV. No, I didn't. No, your eyes. You probably still got a flow, Mom.
Starting point is 00:28:09 No, I only got... He got... No, he got... I only got one good eye. I mean, he got that Forrest Whitaker eye going on. I only got one good eye as it is. I ain't never noticed that, though.
Starting point is 00:28:21 Yeah, yeah. You noticed it, but this one. Yeah, you got that Forrest... No, your mama was clean the other day, by the way. When she had your tux on with the shades on. Yeah, I was fly, wasn't I? Hey, y'all did that.
Starting point is 00:28:31 Yeah, boy. Y'all did that. Hey, I cleaned it in the border, hell. Yo, you was clean, man. Yeah, man. You was clean. I gave you that. One thing about it, boy, I could put on a suit. No, you put on a suit. Hey, so imagine me as a recruiter going to them parents' houses and a suited. I ain't buy that boy. I could put on a suit. No, you put on a suit. Hey, so imagine me as a recruiter going to them parents' houses and a suited. I ain't wearing no, I ain't wearing no, no, no, no, no.
Starting point is 00:28:52 What the recruiter? What, um, you know, Colorado apparel. You're not going to Colorado. I ain't wearing no Colorado apparel. I'm wearing suits. See, that's the problem. I'm wearing suits. I need you to represent us, but still, you know.
Starting point is 00:29:02 I'm wearing a suit. I'm going to put a Colorado Buffalo pin on my suit I'll tell you what you do I'm going to try you out in Miami and I'm going to see how many because that's your stomping grounds I'm going to see how many that you can sign and then we'll go from there I can get anybody
Starting point is 00:29:17 just tell me who you want I guarantee I have them there okay I guarantee I have them there I'm going to get me a job at Colorado. Baby, I know you in the chat. We moving up. We moving to Boulder, baby.
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Starting point is 00:33:00 just responded to my comments on first take and we have the video. Man, let's take a look at this, man. Play it, play it, play it, play it. I ain't see it. Across the board. The man's already three foot tall.
Starting point is 00:33:11 You put him in a chair 91.5. Oh, fuck you, Shannon! Oh, fuck no! I didn't know you said this shit! Shannon, fuck you! Nah, nah, nah, nah, nah, nah, nah, nah, nah, nah. Nigga! Nah, nah, nah, fuck you!
Starting point is 00:33:24 Nah, nah, nah, nah, nah, nah, nah, nah, nah. Nigga, nah, nah, nah. Fuck you. Nah, nah, nah, nah, nah, nah, nah, nah. Nigga, is this national TV, my nigga? What the fuck? No, no, no, no, no. Why did it just go straight like that? Nigga, is this national TV? Man, Ocho, I was trying to explain.
Starting point is 00:33:54 Man, y'all in the chat, man, y'all laughing, man. Come on, man. Don't do that. Hey, don't do that. How tall he is? Man, they know how tall that man is, man. They ain't making it seem like I made some stuff up. Hey, boy, you shut up, man. Man. Hey, I didn't even know he responded. Hey, that was funny. I didn't know either.
Starting point is 00:34:12 That was funny. Man, look, Ocho. I was telling Stevie about the dunk contest. I said, okay, Aaron Gorin jumped over Taco Fall. Right. Matt McClung jumped over Shaq. Hell, we got Blake Griffin jumping over Kia. Oh yeah, I remember that.
Starting point is 00:34:28 Jalen Brown jumped over Kai. Wait, did they have the chair propped up a little higher or something? No! He's sitting down in the chair with the phone, we're taking a selfie. I'm like, bro,
Starting point is 00:34:40 what are we doing here? And the dude got like 45, 46s. I'm like like come on really hell i jumped over two guys in the chair 35 in 1987 yeah 37 years ago hey hold on hold on you got vert too you could jump i used to i ain't got no vert no boat What up, boy? Yo, what's up, bro? We good. I got you 15 minutes.
Starting point is 00:35:14 You gave me a quick. You and Dylan got us back in the game in the second quarter, bro. Bro, bro. But look. Okay, look, coach. Coach, look. Coach, look, bro. Like, bro, like, bro. Like, I'm going to be fully look, bro. Like, like, like, bro, like, bro.
Starting point is 00:35:25 Like, I'm going to be fully honest, bro. We're going to break down everything that happened, okay? Bro, you sub me in, right? I go out there. I get me a bucket. Then you sub me out. It's the first time I put you in. Yes, but I also had good defense.
Starting point is 00:35:44 I got two. I almost got two stops and after i scored the floater it went in then you sent me out bro no no i left you in that one because you closed out the second half bro you sent me out coach and then after you didn't play me for a whole quarter and then you brought it home you played eight minutes in the fourth quarter. Nah, bro. What? No, I didn't. I played two.
Starting point is 00:36:10 You had 14 minutes played. Listen to me, bro. I was supposed to go crazy. Like, bro, I have a t-shirt. Bro, I have your t-shirt of your face on it, bro. The I be popping bottles. Sparkling champagne. I got the t-shirt, bro. So, bro, I feel like you let me down, bro. I I be poppin' bottles. Sparkles and champagne. I got the t-shirt, bro. So, bro, I feel like you let me down,
Starting point is 00:36:28 bro. I think, you know what? I think Kyrie, you had a parlay. You were supposed to score 30 points. Somebody said you have to score 30 points. No, my parlay. Here's my parlay, Cinco. My parlay was 5.5 over. I had four. I just needed one more bucket. Oh, he was
Starting point is 00:36:44 trying to... You gotta let me know that, though. You feel like you let me know that unless you got the bucket. Nah, but I feel like you ain't have no faith in me, bruh. Not all right. Come on. Let's keep it real. Keep it real. I saw you in pre-games. I was a little skeptical. I ain't gonna lie.
Starting point is 00:37:00 I was skeptical. Okay, but let me show you something. Look at this, bro. I don't think you've seen this, bro, but this is me before the game, like the day before, bro. Like, look. Look, look, look. Oh, man, okay.
Starting point is 00:37:14 Oh, you got your game face on for real? Yes, bro. Oh, he was practicing. Yes, bro. I got my own highlights. Oh, he was ready. I didn't see the ball going in, Kyle. I got my own highlights. Oh, he was ready. I need to see the ball going in, Kai. I don't see no ball going in.
Starting point is 00:37:29 I see you handling. Kai, you playing Kai, you playing kids, bro. No, no, no, no, no, no, no, no. They almost 13. No, Kai, ain't no way. That kid had on pampers. No, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no. But they hoop.
Starting point is 00:37:44 They hoop. Now they hoop, no, no, no, no, no, no. But they hoop. They hoop. Now they hoop, bro. I tell you what, this is what we're going to do, Kai. I'm going to come back next year and coach. I'm going to request you on the team. I give you 22 hard minutes. You got 22 minutes to get 10 points. Look, I don't even got to start.
Starting point is 00:38:01 I can come off the bench. It don't matter. I just need some time to do what I got to do. Okay, what's your point total? What's the point total you're trying to get to? We got to be realistic, Nakai. Don't be giving no 30. At least 12.
Starting point is 00:38:16 Nah, single, I don't even need that much. I just need like a little eight. You feel me? I got you. A little eight. No, no, no, no, no, no. 12, 12, 12, 12, 12. 12 matter of fact 12 is good i have a whole year to prepare 12 is good bro i have a whole year to prepare bro so you're gonna work
Starting point is 00:38:31 on so you're gonna work on your game you're gonna get phil handed to teach you to handle lethal shooter the shot yes no i'm already here to think i'm already in the lab with c brickley we've been training for three months i've been counting down to this day. They let me in the game last minute. So when I heard that, I was ecstatic, bro. You feel what I'm saying? I got to show you my clips of me training because I really trained so hard and I only played five minutes. You feel me? But it's okay, though.
Starting point is 00:38:55 If they give me a chance next year, we're going to put on a show, bro. Okay. I'm going to talk to him and say, look here, Kyle need to come back. He said, if I give you 14 minutes, you can give me eight points. Yes. Well, I gave you four points and five. I gave you four points and five minutes.
Starting point is 00:39:18 Kai, you played 14 minutes, Kai. No. Oh, my God. You not understand it, bro. I gave you four points and five five i didn't play 14 minutes how i look at that go to the celebrity game pull up the celebrity game uh uh celebrity all-star game and pull it up okay stats okay let me see stat sheet hold on Box scores. Team Shannon versus Team Steven. All right, here we go. I'm out of
Starting point is 00:39:47 see right now. Let me see. It say You're number three, right? I'm number three. Yep. How many minutes you play, Kai? Hold on now.
Starting point is 00:40:06 It's not loading. I don't think they got me down for nothing. Ka played 14 minutes and 11 seconds. Ka, Ka, Ka, Ka, and you know that's Ka. I'm just telling what the stats say. Bro, that's Ka, bro. That's Ka, bro. Okay, but did you see the clip of me wide open? Did anybody see that?
Starting point is 00:40:27 Let me see what it say. Kha Sinat, 14-11. Nah, nah. That's not me. Nah, bro. That's cat, bro. That's cat, bro. Do you know that I'm the only person that shot 100% from the field?
Starting point is 00:40:41 I had one shot on one make. Yeah, but you ain't give me no rebounds, Kai. I know. That's the only thing I was supposed to get you no rebounds. You got me no assists. But you got Micah coming in like a juggernaut, bro.
Starting point is 00:40:58 So I don't think, I don't even think Micah be like, bro, I don't think Micah know he got teammates on the court. I'm gonna keep it on the stack. I don't think he do, bro, I don't think Michael know he got teammates on the court. I'm going to keep it on the stack. I don't think he do, bro. He don't be passive enough. Yeah, he missed on that one. He missed on that one.
Starting point is 00:41:12 You wide open. Yeah. See why you started doing that? And then Jazz got back and he couldn't get it to you in time. You can't be jumping up and down because you alerted the other people that you was wide open. I'll be top of the key. And my handles, bro, they they done compared me to Kyrie and Steph with the handles, bro.
Starting point is 00:41:29 So they didn't give me the ball to work with. That's the thing. So you want the rock? So you want the rock in your hand? I need the rock. I don't even need it. I don't even need it that much, bro, but I just need a good amount to where I can just it's just, ha, come here. Boom! You feel me? I didn't get to display nothing.
Starting point is 00:41:49 You hit her with the floater. You had the float game working. Bro, you made my mom cry. My mom was there, bro. She said she came all that way and she don't leave the house. She cried when she left, bro. So how'd that make you feel? You know what, Kyle? You played, let's see, 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6. You played the 7th.
Starting point is 00:42:11 Out of 20 people, you played the 7th most minutes. No. I don't think so. I don't think so. 1, 2, 3, 4, 5. Ocho, what you think? You played the seventh most minutes.
Starting point is 00:42:29 Hold on. I'm going to throw you out real quick. Ocho, what you think, man? Hey, next year. Next year is up. As a matter of fact, we're going to increase in points. We're going to increase in the club.
Starting point is 00:42:47 To get eight points, how many minutes do you need? About four. Man, you don't need... You got 14! But he got a year of work. He's going to put in
Starting point is 00:43:00 a year worth of work, though. It's not even... It ain't even... That's why I said it goes two ways, right? So here's why I said it goes two ways, right? So here's the thing. It goes two ways, right? It go coach got to get me in and teammates got to pass the ball.
Starting point is 00:43:11 Right. You feel what I'm saying? Doing warm-ups. I'm high. I throw me and Parsons on the same page. I get to Parsons in the game. He don't know who I am. I'm over here.
Starting point is 00:43:22 Before that, I'm like, yo, we're going to go crazy. We're going to kill it. Whole time, do you know how it feels? The worst feeling is when somebody has the ball. He has the ball. He looks me dead in my face. Wide open. And shoot it.
Starting point is 00:43:37 And he didn't even hit the rim. All here. Yeah, I remember that one. The three-pointer. He shot a three-pointer. That's what I'm saying, man. So how many minutes? I did, honestly, realistically, if I give you 20 minutes,
Starting point is 00:43:52 how many buckets can you get? At least 12 points. At least 12. That's at least 12. At least 12. Hey, listen, if you're training for a whole year and the game is not until next year, February, you got to have at least 12 points. Thank you. I think 12. Listen, if you're training for a whole year and the game is not until next year, February,
Starting point is 00:44:07 you got to have at least 12 points. Thank you. I think 12. I think 12. You got to run the point, too. You got to run the point. You got to facilitate. Okay, okay.
Starting point is 00:44:14 Hold on. We're moving too fast. I can't, you know, like the point is crazy. I'll do shooting guard, you know? Okay, you're going to be the two. You're going to run the two. Yeah, I'll be the two. Okay. I'll be the two. You gonna run the two yeah i'll be the two okay i'll
Starting point is 00:44:25 be the two you feel me so yeah man but look though remember don't remember now shannon if they talk to them please bro i got you all right thank you because you know that was my first basketball game for real okay we got you we got you appreciate you all right i'm just hey hold on yeah why you call me three feet? That was... you? Kai, don't do that, Kai. I told you it was 5'9". How far did you get? Five feet. Five feet. Five five? Yeah. Come on. I told him I saw you
Starting point is 00:45:15 at the flag football game. I told him you was 5'9 from where I was standing. 5'9". Ocho was in a hole, though. Look, bro. Look, I ain't three feet, bro. I'm not 1.5 and stuff like that. No, no, Kai. It was not a knock on you.
Starting point is 00:45:35 I was saying, if you look at the other guys, they jumping over Shaq. They jumping over Taco Fall. They jumping over Akia. Even if they jumps over you he put you in a chair now you have to hide or what your original height is i thought i was gonna be standing up on a chair but he told me sit down i'm confused i ain't know what to do you see so yeah you wouldn't have gave no 46 48 points on that dunk either, would you? Come on, bro.
Starting point is 00:46:06 Come on. JB my man's, my boy. But goddamn, JB, you should have had me standing on that motherfucker. That's what I'm saying. Hey, look, though. I'm glad we got to communicate a little bit and to see what was going on and stuff like that. Coach, this is good. This is
Starting point is 00:46:23 good development for playing a coach. And I just want to say thank you for even considering to give me a next chance. And if I get a next chance in that, I won't let you down, bro. I appreciate that. I appreciate that. We appreciate you joining us too, though, bro. Because we know you busy. How many hours a night do you how many hours a day do you stream?
Starting point is 00:46:40 I try to do like like seven to nine hours. Straight? Straight. I done stream for 30 days straight before. I'm serious. I done got in trouble with that, man. That's seven, eight hours streaming.
Starting point is 00:46:59 You stream? Yeah, I'm on Twitch. I'm on Twitch. What you be playing? FIFA and Call of Duty. I will cook you a Madden. Come on, man. Don't play at me. Don't do that.
Starting point is 00:47:12 You must not hurt. We know we need some time from you. We need you to ask your followers to subscribe to our channel. We're trying to come up. Yes. Hey, look. Go show some love to Un to our channel. We're trying to come up. Yes. Hey, look.
Starting point is 00:47:25 Hey, look. Go show something else to up, bro. Go show something else to up. They say you got to give me more minutes first. Look. I got you. I got you. I'm going to give you 12. Now, you, look here. Now, if I give you 20 minutes, you told me you're going to give me 12 points next year for 20 minutes. 20
Starting point is 00:47:41 minutes. Yeah. I'm going to get you 20 minutes. Yeah. Now, if you ain't. As long as you, look, hey, look, you don't got to force the 20 minutes. 20 minutes. I'm going to get you 20 minutes. Yeah. Now, if you ain't. As long as you. Hey, look. You don't got to force the 20 minutes now. You the 20 minutes where you think it should be used. Don't.
Starting point is 00:47:52 You feel what I'm saying? As long as you just give me that 20, I'll be good, bro. Okay. I got you. Yeah. And I got an up and coming hooper, too, that he's a good doer of mine. He go by the name of Flight Reacts. Me and him is like LeBron and D-Wade.
Starting point is 00:48:04 I'm telling you, bro. I'm telling you is like LeBron and D-Wade. I'm telling you, bro. I'm telling you. You LeBron or D-Wade? LeBron. Nah, for real. Me and Flight, we're going crazy, bro. I'm telling you, bro. I'm telling you, bro.
Starting point is 00:48:17 I'm going to send you some info. I'm going to get you info. Yeah. We can chop it up. I got you, man. Hey. All right. Appreciate you joining us tonight, Kyle.
Starting point is 00:48:24 Enjoy, bro. Thank you so much. Enjoy the game. Enjoy coaching you. I got you, man. Hey. All right. Appreciate you joining us tonight, Kyle. Enjoy, bro. Thank you so much. Enjoy the game. Enjoy coaching you. I'll be in touch. I won't let you down, bro. Ocho. I'm all out of you, man.
Starting point is 00:48:34 All right, bros. Let's get it. For the San Francisco 49ers, Brandon, are you? Brandon, how you doing? Can you hear us? What's good? Can you hear us? What's good? Can you hear me? Yeah, we got you, bro.
Starting point is 00:48:48 Yeah. Hey, B, can you hear me? Yeah, I can hear you. What's good? What's up? Well, hey, I like them jerseys back there. You need an 85 back there, baby. Send me one.
Starting point is 00:48:57 Yeah, well, hey, no problem. No problem. Amazon got next day. Just send me the address. All right. Brandon, how you? Go ahead. Go send me the address. All right. Brandon, I... Go ahead. Go ahead.
Starting point is 00:49:07 Go ahead. Hey, we in March. We getting ready to head into April, right? Have you started working out yet? I just started this week. You started this week? You down on the West Coast or East Coast? I'm in Cali.
Starting point is 00:49:20 I'm in the Bay right now. Okay, okay, okay. So I'm just... I want to throw this out there. If you want to get some work in, you know I play DV and I just want to see if you really like that. I know what I saw
Starting point is 00:49:31 on film. I know what I watched throughout the season. And if you want to get some work in, I just want to see if you can get open. For sure, for sure. Sound like you nervous? For sure. What's up, man? What's up, what's going on hey we good bro hey talk to us about the season you go into the season okay you train the offseason you go into mindset says okay i need to be on one this year i need to because you know maybe
Starting point is 00:50:00 they feel a certain type of way maybe they they say, yeah, Brandon, you're doing okay. But can you be that number one if something were to happen to Deebo? You know, so what's your mindset going into a season? I think just the mindset is getting ready to be my best self, just getting ready to have my body match up with what I want to do mentally. If I can tell my body to do this and do that and it can go along with it, then I feel like I'm in great shape to have a great season. So that's just the mindset. Getting my body to be the best that it can be for 23, 24 weeks
Starting point is 00:50:36 because that's the mindset. That's how long we're getting used to playing now. So that's all the mindset is. Okay, you have a mindset. Okay, if have a mindset. So, okay, if I'm healthy, I want my mind to match my body. I've done everything I needed to do in the offseason, the way I ate, the way I trained, the way I prepared, the way I focused.
Starting point is 00:50:58 I don't know if you have a sports psychologist, but my mind is in a great place. You go through the season, you're healthy. You have the type of season that you thought you should have and now you guys get to the playoffs and you're playing well and you get to the Super Bowl talk us through that Super Bowl because you guys came out on fire you had a lead a 10-point lead for very much of the ball game and then you let it get away they tied up in regulation taking overtime and you guys unfortunately lose that ball game. So tell me what's your mindset and what's the team mindset
Starting point is 00:51:28 in that game going into the game? Going into the game, just going into the game, playing our best ball, trying to play clean ball, playing football because when we do that, we win ball games. So just trying to play clean, trying to play our brand of football. But, yeah, that was it. The game, it went a different direction than we thought. You know, we were trying to grasp hold of it multiple times in the game,
Starting point is 00:51:59 but we just couldn't fully grasp it, and we never did. You guys had a 10-point lead. I mean, you guys were in control. And I was talking about having been in games like this, Brandon. I'm like, when you have control of the game, how much separation can you put between you and the other team when you have that control? Because you know they're going to get it.
Starting point is 00:52:21 Eventually, you're not going to have the momentum throughout the entirety of the game. So how much separation? Did you say that, damn, man, you look up, you're like, man, we outplayed them the whole game, and they only down by seven points. They only down by three points. The whole game. I mean, the whole game.
Starting point is 00:52:36 I think it was multiple times. Just starting off the game, I think, like you said, we was 10-0, 7-3, 7-whatever. When we was up, I can't remember exactly, but we was up, and there was multiple times where defense going out there, getting stops, going out there, going out there, getting stops. But we coming off the field, too. So it was in those moments where you're like, this game, especially who we playing on the other side, where it's just like,
Starting point is 00:52:56 you're never at ease just because you're like, we got to stay on the field. We got to put points up because we already know how. We've seen this story too many times. And, unfortunately, we've seen it when we've seen it another time. But like y times. So, and unfortunately we've seen it when we see it another time. But like, like y'all said, man, we back to it.
Starting point is 00:53:08 I just started to climb back up this week. I just, you know, I was telling, I enjoyed my birthday in March. I was, I was in Mexico cooling with the fam. Happy birthday.
Starting point is 00:53:17 Happy birthday. Appreciate that. And then just, just getting, just getting right, just getting back ready to try to climb back up again. That's, that's,
Starting point is 00:53:23 that's all it is. And trying to get some, and trying to get, you know, trying to get something else on before that. Yeah. Hey, speaking of, speaking of something else before that, listen, you wanted the best in the league. I'm talking about top five. Listen, your resume, it speaks for itself.
Starting point is 00:53:38 You're going into your fifth season. Last year, you had 75 catches, 1300 some yards, seven TDs, and you was ranked second in the NFL and YPC, right? So that speaks for itself. So there should be no discussion when it comes to taking care of you when it comes to your value. Rachel, I'm sick about that second one because, look, the whole entire – that was YPC? Yes, sir. I finished second. Look, you know
Starting point is 00:54:05 who was first who first Pickens Pickens was first Pickens had Pickens so I'm leading it the whole entire year
Starting point is 00:54:12 I'm leading the whole entire year YPC last game of the season I think Pickens didn't have no catches in the last game of the season
Starting point is 00:54:18 last game of the season what's his name Purdy ain't play they sent me out there right and I lost it in the last week so I'm mad about that.
Starting point is 00:54:25 I should be saying one, but it's all you. Yeah, but listen, there are certain things that we can see from the outside looking in. I can see. So when it comes to, and I hate most of the time, you know, players don't really like to talk about their contract negotiations or anything having to do with money. But I will do it for you. You don't have to say anything, but you are so fucking valuable to that offense. You are what I call a true number one who can play on the outside. You can play on the inside. You can beat, you can beat any goddamn coverage there is that's out there.
Starting point is 00:55:00 You're one of the few players in the NFL that plays receiver where you don't need your offensive coordinators help to get open. When, when the coach tell you, I need to get open here on third and two or whatever it is, no matter what they got lined up in front of you, you're one of the few that can go out there and get open on the muscle. So I don't understand what the issue is over there with the GM and your owners, but just understand you deserve to get paid. And I ain't just talking about no any money. I'm talking about 30, 32 a year. And I need 3%. I appreciate that.
Starting point is 00:55:30 I appreciate that. I appreciate that. Hey, I appreciate it. I ain't have to say, you know what I'm saying? Yeah, don't do that. I appreciate that. I appreciate that. I appreciate that.
Starting point is 00:55:38 So, Brandon, obviously your representative have been talking to John Lynch, who's the general manager. And there've been the swirlings about he's going to get traded, blah, blah, blah. But John Lynch came out earlier this week and said, I promise you, nothing is going on there. And then you had the IG story with the emojis, the money, the talking, the BS, and the walking. So what's been relayed to you, as much as you can divulge, what's been relayed to you
Starting point is 00:56:08 through your representative? They're trying to get work done. They're trying to get work done. I mean, they're trying to get work done. That's all I can say. Y'all know how it gets. I don't even want to get too far into that. Y'all know how it gets. I don't even want to get too far into that.
Starting point is 00:56:33 But, you know, I'm just trying to get like what Ocho just said. I'm trying to get what I deserve. I felt like this season, this season playing football, I figured out who I was as a person, as a player, what I bring to the table, what I bring to the locker room, what I bring to the table, what I bring to the locker room, what I bring to organization. And just the value I hold when I walk in that building, because people don't follow me because I've done it the right way since I've been in that building from the first day I walked in there to when I was in
Starting point is 00:56:59 there earlier this morning, done it the right way. So, and if, if, if, if they don't see a worth in that, that's all, don't see it working, that's all it is. That's all it is. It ain't nothing else besides that. But like I said, I can't get into it. We got professionals working on both sides, so hopefully we can come to a professional agreement and continue to play professional football.
Starting point is 00:57:22 I like it. I like it. I played in the offense for a number of years, Brandon, and I know one thing as a wide receiver. You get rewarded for blocking. You're one of the better blocking wide receivers, and you have to in order to have the running back to have success. Because now when you're blocking downfield, you, Debo, Jennings, Kittle,
Starting point is 00:57:40 those four and five yards turn into 20, 25, 30, 40 yards. How much pride do you guys as a unit take pride in blocking? So much pride, so much pride. That's the one thing. Before the routes, before touchdowns, before any of the stuff that you see, it just started with that. And I think once I think once we, once we,
Starting point is 00:58:05 as a room, as a unit, previously in the past, we came, especially Debo, George, guys like that. We came up and we just said,
Starting point is 00:58:13 you know what, that's it. That's going to be, that's like the standard is the standard. That's what it's going to be. So we're going to start with that. And I feel like, and I feel like the moment I started blocking like that,
Starting point is 00:58:22 it just kind of carried over into the way that I ran routes, the way that I released, the way that I just played the game. If you had that attacking mindset that you're going to – I'm just going to put hands on this guy. He's not going to make plays. He's X from this play. Now you've got to route on third down. You're already in the game.
Starting point is 00:58:40 You're already flowing. You're already – that's how I feel personally. I'm already in the game. I already done made a play. I done set C-Mag free for a 35. He done creased one because I done made a block. Now I don't – I don't already have – it feels like I already done caught a ball. Now that first play that might come to me because I might not –
Starting point is 00:58:56 I only might get five or six. So I got to make five or six. So playing with that mindset, I feel like it helped me a lot. So that's what it came down to, to the blocking too as well. That's a lot. Hey, listen. The funny thing about it is you... Listen, I already talked about you as a receiver.
Starting point is 00:59:14 Obviously, we know what you could do as a receiver, but you like what I consider complete because when it came to blocking, I was horrible. You wasn't blocking? I just run people off. I'm too little.
Starting point is 00:59:28 I couldn't even bench 135, so I just run people off. I ain't got time to be engaging in something that I'm going to lose. From what I heard, if I'm not mistaken, I heard you could squat almost 500 pounds. Back when I used to squat like that, I don't squat like that no more. No, but you can squat almost 500 pounds. Back when I used to squat like that, I don't squat like that no more. No, but you can squat 500 pounds? I mean, I probably could put it on there. I'll squat it, but we ain't working out like that.
Starting point is 00:59:55 You got to say them legs now, man. Hey, 500-pound squat legs, they don't get in and out of breaks. I got to start and stop. Exactly. There you go. Brandon, let me ask you this. The play before you guys kicked the field goal in overtime,
Starting point is 01:00:12 you guys had a play. And I don't know how many people have seen it, but I know you've gone back and watched that tape because LeJarius Sneed missed the jam. And you come wide open, but Chris Jones came free and pressured Purdy, and he ends up throwing the ball away. How many times have you replayed that play in your mind? None. Like, none.
Starting point is 01:00:33 Because it's like, well, first of all, that play wasn't going to me. We running slam return to JJ in the slot. Okay. And I already know. There's no way this is coming back. I don't think it's going to come all the way. Okay. And I already know. There's no way this is coming back. I don't think it's going to come all the way back to me. I already know this play going here. It's a frontside play.
Starting point is 01:00:50 Yeah, a frontside play. So I don't even – too much thinking about that play. It's the plays way long before that. It's the plays way long before that that get to me because we had multiple chances long before that one to even tell. So I don't put too much on that play, but, yeah, I don't put too much, yeah. Have you thought about the Super Bowl and the missed opportunities that you guys had?
Starting point is 01:01:14 I ain't going to lie. Until before I went to Cabo for my birthday, I was in the house like just running like a zombie. Like it just wasn't good. So I got to go out there and relax and get away from it. Now I'm finally just now able to move forward a little bit. But even just still, just still, cause, cause it's just like champion. Oh my God. I come back, I come in my house and I got, you know, I got,
Starting point is 01:01:39 I'm a big Bron fan, but I got Kobe. I got Kobe. I got a picture of Kobe holding and I got a picture of myself shaking Tom Brady's hand in my crib. And I just get back. I'm just sitting there a couple weeks after the game looking at that picture. The day when I got back looking at that picture, I didn't really understand the magnitude of what I just had in front of me until now I'm here on this other side, and I don't get to hold it. But at the same time, I'm grateful for it.
Starting point is 01:02:02 It gave me another – it gave me something else to see and work towards, too, because it's a fact I'm a top receiver in this league. It's a fact. You know, anything receiver-wise is a fact. We don't have to even get into it, but I'm not a champion. So it gave me something to strive and work towards, too, and want to get back on this climb again. Speaking of, I'm going to ask you about your quarterback,
Starting point is 01:02:27 Brock Purdy, man. He passed over 4,000, had 31 touchdowns. Obviously he was third in the NFL with those stats, but for some reason, he still has some doubters. What do you think is the case for that? And what is it like playing with Brock? Uh, I mean, he played on the Niners. They don't want it. They don't want it.
Starting point is 01:02:49 They don't want it. They don't want it. They're going to take forever. They're going to take until the last moment possible to say, all right, we're going to give him his credit. But we cool with that. We cool with that. I feel like he's an underdog.
Starting point is 01:03:03 Myself, I feel like I'm an underdog. But you can't hold an underdog down for too long like you can't hold him down no matter how hard you try you ain't gonna hold him down so uh i enjoyed i enjoyed playing with him i had a lot of fun playing with him uh like but we we only we had only just got started so we'll see what we'll see what happens down going down the road um and yeah hopefully i'll continue to uh praise him which no matter how it goes that he he nice he nice for real so he nice he nice he nice you in that draft i mean you look at your draft you had hendy ruggs and jerry judy yourself uh cd justin jefferson uh jalen regger uh uh at pitman and t higgins was in and Jerry Judy, yourself, C.D., Justin Jefferson, Jalen Reger, Pittman, and T. Higgins was in the second round, Mooney.
Starting point is 01:03:52 I mean, that draft was loaded. But where would you rank yourself? Where would you consider yourself, not just in your draft class, but with all the receivers, the Tyreeks, the Devontae Adams, all those guys. Where is Brandon Ayuk in that conversation? I'm going to say it like this. I don't even want to get too much into ranking and this and that.
Starting point is 01:04:13 But I'll say this. The one thing that we could go up based off of that's not going to tell us no lies, it don't have no peers, it's not leading in any direction is the tape. We cut the tape on for 22 weeks of football. Nobody else can say they played 22 some weeks of football. They can't.
Starting point is 01:04:32 Whoever, anybody, what you just named, they can't say they've been to three NFC championship games. They can't say they've been to... You know what I'm saying? So, everybody doing all this, but it's something else. We already passed yards and touchdowns. Of course, we're trying to – it's something else. We already passed yards.
Starting point is 01:04:46 We already passed yards and touchdowns. Of course we're going to get yards and touchdowns. Can't nobody stick us. It's the reason why you're bringing this up. But what else are we going to bring? Where else are we going to take it to? It's the reason why – we talk about Patrick Holmes every single day because nobody can't do – nobody can't do that.
Starting point is 01:05:04 Nobody's doing that. We'll be chasing. Here where we was at just that, we feel like I just seen somebody comment, say Purdy Post have two championships. I mean, of course, they can say Post have. But I read that and I saw that and I said, we could be sitting here right now with two championships. So that's the only thing.
Starting point is 01:05:25 I'm worried about championships right now. Championships, championships, championships. I ain't trying to get into who's number one and two and three and four and five. Number one, have you been to the playoffs? Have you been to a Super Bowl? Have you been? No. So I'm not even going.
Starting point is 01:05:39 Championships. There's a photo of Mike Tomlin. You are split. I think you retweeted it of Mike Tomlin. You are split. I think you retweeted it. Mike Tomlin, you tweeted a picture of you and Mike. They said we're twins. What do you think? How surprised are you that that photo has garnered the attention that it has?
Starting point is 01:05:57 Y'all do kind of look like twins, Brandon. Or cousins or something. My dog Bo from South Carolina. You look like him, but no, no. I mean, that piece. I mean, that it was it was funny. I had seen it like right after the Super Bowl. You know, they try to they try to kick you out.
Starting point is 01:06:17 You already down. So I'm like, all right, it's cool. Y'all get it. Y'all get at me. Y'all get at me. It's all good. I'll take it. Because, you know and also i'm talking
Starting point is 01:06:25 i've been talking shit they got they got it so then they got me again but it was cool i just said i just brought it back full circle because uh i felt like i was waking up like this this uh like every day every day while you under uh negotiate negotiating or whatever you want contract talks every day is like a different day so it it's just like that. So I had woke up. So I was like, you know what? Like I keep, I keep bringing up my birthday. I said, you know, I'm not going to say that I was going to leave my agent alone. I ain't going to do nothing. I'm just going to wait till after my birthday. And then I'm going to try to put a little bit more pressure on them.
Starting point is 01:06:57 So I get, I get there. I wake up, I wake up right after I wake up and they talk about, they talk about another team again and they talking about another team. Again, they talking about another team that they got me supposed to be in the trade talks or whatever, whatever, whatever. So I said, hey, let me just go ahead and let me just – if we want to make – if everybody's saying this and this and that, let me go ahead and I'll just go and let me just put out one of my little spots that I, you know,
Starting point is 01:07:19 and I'll revert back to Tom and we can have a little bit of fun with it. It's all in fun. It's all in fun. Like I said, we're professionals, but it is what it is, man. That's where the Tomlin State came from. I didn't know you from South Carolina. What part of Carolina are you from?
Starting point is 01:07:34 No, I'm talking about my dog. I said, you look like my dog, Bo, from South Carolina. Oh, your dog? Yeah. My dog, Deebo. Oh, Deebo. Okay, my bad. I was like, damn, I thought you was from Cali or something. Oh, Debo. Oh, okay. My bad. I was like, damn, I thought you was from like Cali or something. No, I'm from Reno, Nevada.
Starting point is 01:07:50 Reno, Nevada? Yes, sir. Oh, the biggest little city in the... You been over there? I have not been over there, but I heard about it. No, I haven't been to Reno. Okay, okay, okay. Hey, bro. So anything else you want to share?
Starting point is 01:08:03 Because listening from the outside, it sounds like you're kind of disappointed that the contract negotiations haven't gone as smoothly as you anticipated, considering you've been a model citizen inside the building. You've been a model citizen out on the field. You've been a model citizen outside the facility. Well, let me ask y'all. Do y'all know like the timing and everything that goes on when negotiation talks? I know one thing. For the skill position,
Starting point is 01:08:31 if you're not a quarterback, we got to fight tooth and nail. So this is what we all have to go through. We all have to go through this. And it would always be like this no matter what, but you are handling it the right way because the market is the market.
Starting point is 01:08:45 Your resume is your resume. Your resume is your resume. Your value is your value. Ray Charles can see what you can do. Other teams can also see what you can do. So they can play a game that they want to. If they don't want to give you what you deserve, and I know what you deserve, other teams will give you what you deserve, and they're going to overpay for it if they let you walk out that door.
Starting point is 01:09:01 So either way it go, either way you cut it, it's a win-win for you no matter what, based on your resume. So, for you, you should be smiling every goddamn day no matter what, because you're going to be good. For sure. I get your frustration, Brandon,
Starting point is 01:09:18 because had you not performed like you have, they would have done traded you or released you. So, now I've overperformed. Now compensate me for the work that I've done. I've had a couple of these random early in my career. I held out, ended up having to hold out for two weeks.
Starting point is 01:09:36 My, my, my, my third contract, not my fourth contract. I signed it the day before the day of training camp, the day of training camp. And then, uh, they didn't, they didn't resign me. I go to Baltimore, win a championship,
Starting point is 01:09:53 go to the Pro Bowl. They released me. I go back to Denver. So it's, uh, it's, I'll tell you like this. The best thing you can do is to keep your emotions in check. Don't get too high. Don't get too high. Don't get too low. Cause I know you're staying in constant contact with your, your representative. He's doing a good job as he possibly can to keep you in the right frame of
Starting point is 01:10:14 mind. Contracts talks are going well. They have a, you have, he probably haven't told you, but I think there's a number that, that, uh,
Starting point is 01:10:22 the 49ers have in mind. You kind of want to go over that number and i believe you've earned the right to go over that number based on what you've done and based on how you got what you're gonna do yes yes yes and that's the frustrating part i i look i've been a player and i understand the business aspect from a team, but I believe you should reward your players for what they've done and what you believe they can do. Now, if they don't thank you,
Starting point is 01:10:51 it's like, well, you know what? This was an isolated incident. They know what's going on. Come on now. Exactly. They know what's going on. I know what's going on. It's, like I said, it's not easy.
Starting point is 01:11:04 It's business. It's business, and it's multiple right like i said it's it's it's not easy it's not it's business it's business and it's multiple people involved in in business and we all try to get to one thing but like i said they're gonna do it with me or without me you're gonna have a better chance with me we just leave it at that yeah we just leave it at that control what you can control which is your frame of mind and the work that you put in to be ready to go wherever that may be. You know I'm going to be ready. You know I'm going to be ready. You know I'm going to be ready.
Starting point is 01:11:35 Come on now. Brandon, I really appreciate you taking time out of your schedule. Wait a minute. Wait a minute. Wait a minute. Wait a minute. What about our one-on-ones? We can one-on-one hoop. We can one-onon-ones? We can one-on-one hoop.
Starting point is 01:11:45 We can one-on-one hoop. We can one-on-one hoop. No, I play DB, though. No, you don't play DB. What you talking about? You don't play DB. Wait, wait. Brandon, I was drafted as a DB, and they switched me to receiver
Starting point is 01:11:56 because the DB room was full. I was a DB, too. And I play in and out multi-receiver because I need the pill in my hands. Okay. So you want to play basketball one-on-one? Yeah, I'd rather hoop than do these like that, man. But you're going to lose that.
Starting point is 01:12:16 I'll just grab some new hoop shoes. I'll just grab some A1. I'm trying to jump out the gym too. So I'm about to go hoop. That's going to be my first content, too. So I'm about to go hoop. All right, Beck. That's going to be my first content for TikTok, me beating you in basketball.
Starting point is 01:12:29 Yes, sir. Yes, sir. Brandon, when he said he was drafted, that means he was running behind someone. He was drafting up them, you know, to try to get a, you know, he didn't want to exert that much energy. He was not drafted in no DB. But I want to take time out right now.
Starting point is 01:12:42 Thank you for joining us on Nightcap. We really appreciate you giving us some of your time, offering insight to your gang, what transpired during the season, the Super Bowl, and best of luck on this contract, bro. Well deserved. Well deserved. Whatever you get, you deserve it. You've earned it.
Starting point is 01:12:58 Yes, sir. Appreciate that. Appreciate you having me on here. I'm welcome to come back anytime. I watch it in my cave all the time, so I welcome to come back anytime. I'm watching in my cave all the time. So, I was honored to pull up and talk to y'all. Chad,
Starting point is 01:13:08 it's my first time talking to Chad. Chad. Ocho. Yo. Yes, sir. All right, baby. I love you, man.
Starting point is 01:13:16 Tell C-Mac, tell C-Mac, tell C-Mac his favorite uncle said what's up. For sure, will do, will do. All right.
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Starting point is 01:16:23 Listen to Good Company on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. Ocho, we're going to get ready to go because we got a special guest that's on the line for us. Guys, let's welcome Heisman Trophy winner, LSU's own. The draft is Thursday, and he's going to hear his name called very, very early in that process. Let's welcome Heisman Trophy winner from LSU, Jayden Daniels. Jayden, what's up? How you doing, bro jay was good boy
Starting point is 01:17:08 what's happening man chilling chilling chilling right here i'm trying to see how you feel it man if that that childhood dream is gonna happen in a few more days how you feeling man honestly like anxious like you know I'm just ready to get this hear my name calling and get to work. Has it hit you yet? It hasn't really set in yet, huh? Nah, it hasn't really set in. You know, I've been everywhere, you know, flying back and forth,
Starting point is 01:17:35 being on flights, you know, 30 visits, top 30 visits, stuff like that. So, I really had time to really sit back and really think about it. Whoa, whoa, whoa, Jay. Hold on, hold on. Jay, why you taking all them visits? You're like, what y'all picking? Y'all picking 28? I ain't going to be there.
Starting point is 01:17:50 I ain't coming to see y'all, man. Stop playing with me. This is a once in a lifetime thing. Yeah, yeah. You got to take a mile. You get all the frequent flyer miles, huh? Try to. So walk us through the process.
Starting point is 01:18:04 OK, you win the heisman yeah you're like okay i can't do any more at lsu i'm i'm out of here i'm okay so now you go through the process talk to talk us through talk our audience through what's going through jayden daniel's mind once he wins the heisman once you have the year that you have what's going from that point you have the year that you have you're the 2023 Heisman Trophy winner walking through from there I mean once I heard my name even before that point I kind of like after the Texas A&M game I was like man I ain't got nothing left for college I can't play I can't play in this bowl game right you know I was like man I'm telling all my people
Starting point is 01:18:43 like closest one to me like Malik and Brian and I'm telling them like man i'm out i can't play in this bowl game love y'all uh but it's time for me to move on and then right there kind of really just uh moved out of louisiana uh moved back to california uh took like two weeks off and then uh after our bowl game got to work so you started so you go through the draft i mean so when did you when did you uh because obviously as ocho asked you this is a lifelong dream and so now you're about to fulfill this is not the end of one journey it's the beginning of another journey so what is your expectations are you going to be in new york i mean excuse me detroit i'm going to detroit okay so that's always been a lifelong dream to be in New York? I mean, excuse me, Detroit? I'm going to Detroit.
Starting point is 01:19:25 Okay. So that's always been a lifelong dream to be there and to walk on that stage and give Roger Goodell that hug. Honestly, it hasn't. My lifelong dream being first round pick and hear my name. I thought about it differently. But then once you're in the process and you know you can go high, I'm like, man, everybody wants a lifetime opportunity to walk across that stage, hold that jersey up. So I was like, man, everybody like Manson wants a lifetime opportunity to walk across that stage and hold that jersey. I was like, man,
Starting point is 01:19:48 I can't miss out for sure. It's one thing that I always thought about. Most of the time, you just want to get drafted. But I know players in the back of their mind, they always think about a favorite team that they always wanted to play for. So as a child growing up, who was your favorite team
Starting point is 01:20:03 growing up? And how do you feel about your chances of playing there? Now, I'm not asking where you want to go. No, my chances are slim playing there. My chances are very slim. They got a QB. But growing up, my favorite team was the 49ers.
Starting point is 01:20:20 They got a team. So my chances are very slim going there. Yeah, they messed that up, Jay, when they traded up a couple years ago to the third pick. Maybe if they hadn't have done that, that might have been an opportunity for you. We never know. So now that you – so what is it – so your family's around.
Starting point is 01:20:39 Obviously your mom's going to be there. So what's it like to know that, you know what, I'm going to be able to take care of my mom. I don't know if your mom's working or your dad's working, but you know, hey, baby got this thing. Shut it all the way down. Yeah, man. Both my parents
Starting point is 01:20:56 are still working, so it'll be able not everybody looking at me, so I'll be able to, you know, they put in all the work, you know, to get me to this point, to sacrifice and stuff like that, so be able to take care of them a little bit. Not too much, you know, it's, they put in all the work, you know, to get me to this point to sacrifice and stuff like that. So, uh, be able to take care of them a little bit, not too much, you know, they still got to work, but, but, you know, whenever, whenever I get the chance to take care of them, man, I'm going to take care of them.
Starting point is 01:21:16 Once I get that second contract, then we can talk about retirement and stuff like that. Yeah. Give me three years. Give me three years. Just hold on for three years. That's a good one. Listen, you had an exceptional, exceptional season last year.
Starting point is 01:21:32 Now, from my understanding, you played so well due to your nutrition and what you ate before games. Yeah. Pre-game meal was an omelet and two waffles. Two of them.
Starting point is 01:21:45 Now, once you get to the NFL, will you change your routine? As far as nutrition is concerned, you're going to stay true to yourself. Hey, I'm in between, man. I'm true to myself. Like, I can get away with a little bit. You know, I eat fast food
Starting point is 01:22:00 still to this day, Wendy. That's what I'm talking about. That's why you're going to be successful at the next level. Unc, you heard that? You heard him? I still eat fast food, man. Let's go, man. That's what I'm talking about.
Starting point is 01:22:14 But have you talked to any teams and have your trainer said, Jay, we probably need to put about 10, 15 pounds on you? Not right now, but through the process over the next year or so. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Most definitely. Teams I talked to, it was like, what I played last year, I was like around like 205. So, it was like, you know, we was going to put on weight progressively,
Starting point is 01:22:35 but we ain't going to overload you. So, you know, your play start to digress. Talk to us about the, what, you started out at Arizona state. Yeah. And then you go to LSU. What was your thought process of entering the portal and going to LSU and leaving Arizona state? Man, that was hard. Uh, you know, just being there for three years, you know, I got, I got love, much love for her.
Starting point is 01:22:59 Y'all love her Marv AP, all those guys. So it was hard just to leave them. Um, you know, I, Marv, AP, all those guys. So it was hard just to leave them. You know, I still to this day, I remember Marv was blowing my phone like, come talk to me before you leave. Talking to Herm before I left. I was like, it's hard. But one thing about them, they always respected me. You know, they told me if I don't got nowhere to go,
Starting point is 01:23:19 I still got to go home here. So, you know, to this day, it was a genuine love. But transferring to LSU, man, honestly, what to expect? I just need a fresh new start. You know, I want to go compete against the best. You know, the SEC, the boys in the South built a little different. So I want to go down there and play with them. And I was blessed enough to go to LSU.
Starting point is 01:23:41 LSU was an opportunity for me. And I was able to play on the biggest stage. Was it a shock once you got to the second, realized the difference from playing in the Pac-12 as opposed to being in the second once you got there? Was it not a culture shock, but was, from a skill perspective, was it eye-opening? Man, yeah.
Starting point is 01:24:03 I mean, I would just say, like, the mentality. You know, you got to – I was blessed enough to play with Malik and Brian. You know, every day I practiced, no matter who it was, O-line, D-line, receivers, linebackers, DBs, you know, they always talking, talking crazy, man. And that's one thing about Malik, man. He's always talking crazy no matter what. He thinks nobody can guard him.
Starting point is 01:24:26 He's always open. Right. He got the little dog in him, so I respect that. But, you know, all across the board, they all got the dog in them because of how they were raised. You know, they wasn't raised with much. They didn't have much to do but football. So, you know, that's all they know.
Starting point is 01:24:40 That's dope, man. You go to LSU. Did you think this type of season was possible i mean you had some i mean you had some fantastic runs you had some fantastic plays in arizona state but did you think this yeah man honestly i knew like before i went to college i was like man i want to win a heisman but going taking it back going to back to this offseason, I was like, man, I'm going to win this Heisman. Like, that was my goal, Heisman. I put it – you know, we working on the weight room.
Starting point is 01:25:09 I put it up on top of the rack. You know, the strength coaches put, like, a little plaque for me, me and Malik. So, Malik had Belenikov. I had a Heisman. So, we work out, and we constantly just looking at it. Like, we had that goal set. Like, man, we trying to go get this.
Starting point is 01:25:24 And then we just started balling. I mean our chemistry just the whole offensive chemistry man start heading off and we took off from there that's dope man hey listen obviously with you going to the next level there are some great quarterbacks going to the draft obviously brother brother drake may caleb williams and there's some Michael Penning Jr. and some other players. What do you think separates yourself from the other quarterback? Excuse me. What do you think separates yourself from the other quarterbacks in the draft? From your own perspective.
Starting point is 01:26:00 Man, I say, I mean, I can't speak for everybody, but I'm a competitor. I'm a dog, man. And in my capability, you know, you give me the lane, I can go 80. I can go 80 for sure. So that separates me, man. You know, getting to know those guys, I mean, I know they all got high football IQ, but I would say just that dog in me, like, you know, this is all I know. You know, I grew up football.
Starting point is 01:26:24 I was always doubted. You know, people doubted me to this day. So, you know, I take that, you know, and add it to the fire at the end of the day. But other than that, man, you know, just my escapability, man, my legs. I don't know. God bless me with those. I got to keep using them.
Starting point is 01:26:41 So how's the visits going? You go to these teams. You say you have 30 visits. I don't know if you take it all, 30 of them. So when they get – so walk our audience out, viewing audience and our listening audience through, what is it like for Jayden Daniels? Let's just say, okay, you went to Washington and New England, Arizona. Let's just take those three teams because they're in the top five.
Starting point is 01:26:58 And what are they asking you to do? Are they asking you to diagram plays? They ask you, okay, what's this play from what you did in college? What's that process like? Man, it's kind of just like, you know, they want to kind of introduce you to the offense. Okay. You know, see, quiz you a little bit,
Starting point is 01:27:15 get up and, you know, do a little cadence in there. Learn more about yourself. It's kind of like on those visits, they want to learn more about the person. You know, they know about the football player. Right. They want to learn more about yourself. It's kind of like on those visits, they want to learn more about the person. You know, they know about the football player. Right. They want to learn
Starting point is 01:27:27 more about the person, like your background, where you come from, you know, how was you raised, stuff like that. So that's kind of what I've been getting.
Starting point is 01:27:35 And then from there, they really want to see your football IQ. Like, what can you remember? Yeah. It's kind of like, you know,
Starting point is 01:27:41 they quiz you a little bit. So they just want to see if you're a smart football player, especially being a quarterback. You know, you got to have a high football IQ. So that's stuff like that that I kind of did when I was on the visits. That's dope. Listen, I'm not Mel Kiper Jr. I'm not Mel Kiper Jr.
Starting point is 01:27:58 I'm not Cleo. But I have epiphany that for some reason you will end up with AP at the Raiders. Now, I don't know how they're going to jump all the way up to number two. I'm not sure. I just think that's what's going to happen. I'm telling you. So if you just so happen to be a Raider, I just want to be the first one to get a jersey. I just want to be the first one to get a jersey.
Starting point is 01:28:22 I'm going to put it up back here and uh i'm excited for you man i'm excited for you i'm excited for you i didn't ran i didn't ran into you a couple of times obviously yeah you know you were my son over at asu at one point i'm excited man it's gonna be really dope to see you walk across that stage man i appreciate that since since we're talking about the raiders ap was the dc when you was at arizona state and this would be an opportunity if you were for if you were they made a move because obviously they're not going to be you're not going to be there when they select so they're going to have to jump over a lot of people to select you what would that what would you have you have you know what, you know what it's like, you know AP,
Starting point is 01:29:05 you know, you know how he is as a person, you know how he is as a coach. What would that be like to be reunited with a guy that you was with at Arizona State? I don't know how they're
Starting point is 01:29:16 going to pull it off. But I mean, that's above my pay grade, man. But yeah, I wouldn't do it. I ain't trading. Why would I give up that you're a transformational quarterback, Jay? Yeah. I wouldn't do it. I ain't trading. Why would I give up that?
Starting point is 01:29:26 You a transformational quarterback, Jay. I ain't giving that up. Hey, man. Just AP, man. AP, just as a human being. You know, he the right coach for that team. You know, just him and the intensity that it brings. You know, he challenges people.
Starting point is 01:29:40 He was challenging me at 18. So, I know if I was to go to the Raiders, I'm not saying I'm going to go there or I want to go there. I want to go wherever my name is called. But if I was to go to the Raiders, I know he'll as soon as I step foot, he's going to challenge me. He don't care how high I was drafted, none of that. He's going to challenge me every day.
Starting point is 01:29:59 Have you thought about Go ahead, Ocho. Go ahead. Oh, yeah. I say when you think about what's very important for quarterbacks, especially coming out in the the draft you think about your situation at LSU you look at your supporting cast that was around you they make your job very easy Malik neighbors and the rest of the receiving core at number two based on again I'm not Mel Kiper but they they talk about Caleb William going first obviously he'll be going to the Bears. The Commanders are number two. Number two. Period.
Starting point is 01:30:30 Look at the supporting cast that you have in D.C. What? John Dotson? McLaren? Man, listen, boy. You're going to be in heaven. You're going to be in heaven. I think it's so imperative that you go to the right situation so you have your receiving
Starting point is 01:30:49 corps. Once you've got a receiving corps and they're able to build around you and you can just be you, man. I'm not saying it's going to be a breeze, but I just know. I know the work you put in because it shows up on film. So the transition from college to the NFL is going to be awesome. It's going to be awesome. Sure.
Starting point is 01:31:08 Have you thought about the emotion that you could potentially feel when with the second pick or the third pick in the NFL draft? Second, second. It's going to be second. Jaden Daniel. You're going to cry.
Starting point is 01:31:24 I don't know. I got to, man, you know, hopefully if I look at my mama, I know my mama is going to cry. it's gonna be sick you gonna cry I don't know I gotta man you know hopefully if I look at my mama I know my mama gonna cry my dad probably gonna cry too so I don't know maybe if I look at them they might get me a little bit nah you gonna cry you gonna cry you gonna be
Starting point is 01:31:37 you gonna be a meme that's a lifetime man that's unbelievable Jaden much success man thank you for jumping on with us tonight we greatly greatly appreciate it obviously doing what we do we're going to be paying very close attention to your career to your family congratulations yeah and uh much success moving forward that's all appreciate y'all jay good to see you boy i love you boy congratulations again man man appreciate, ladies and gentlemen. The Made for This Mountain podcast exists to empower listeners to rise above their inner struggles and face the mountain in front of them. So during Mental Health Awareness Month, tune into the podcast, focus on your emotional well-being, and then climb that mountain.
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