Nightcap - BEST OF Part 2: MADDEN Ratings! Unc was rated 100 in '99?!

Episode Date: August 3, 2025

Shannon Sharpe drops some knowledge on Chad "Ochocinco" Johnson by telling him about his perfect 100 rating on Madden 1999! PLUS Ocho gives all the details on how his inaugural Wide Receiver Camp that brought together prominent NFL wideouts, including: Ja'Marr Chase, Tyreek Hill, Tee Higgins and more! 0:00 - Unc was rated 100 in 1999?!4:04 - Ocho’s NFL Wide Receiver Camp18:08 - Top 10 trash talkers of all time32:57 - Cris Carter had words for Ocho?   (Timestamps may vary based on advertisements.) #Volume #ClubSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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What? I think a 98 overall. Yeah, yeah, yeah. I was, listen, I was that boy back in the day, man. I was that boy, I was nice. I think, you know what, for me, and I'm gonna really be honest with you, I don't think people understand really how good I was unless you are really a football person,

because the antics and the fun and entertainment that I had, it takes away from all the hard work I actually put in to be able to pull something should I did all. And I'm just being honest. And that goes for people, even the most highest analysts or those that have been watching the game for years, they allow the antics and entertainment to get away from actually how good I was.

I mean, that happens because they're like what? And I like it, but I like it like that. I enjoyed that. I enjoyed it and that's what I wanted to remember for. So it is what it is. Well, that's what happens. I mean, they say, well, he just talks, he's loud. He's braggadocious and all that.

But, and so now when the NFL has started this national tight ends day and the NFL started posting clips and people like, hold on. Okay, now I see why I was like that for real. You was that boy now. But here's the thing though, Ocho. See, see you with a 98 I was one of the few guys that's ever been a hundo Yeah, but the higher than 99. Yeah, but show I've been him. He was a hundy

Run tell that wait hundy I got to check the vote. I got to check the vote. I ain't never heard of no because normally because normally during the game, I wore red shoes because I clowned. I got to check the vote. I got to

check the vote. I got to check the vote. I got to check the vote. I got to check the vote. I got to check the vote. I got to check the vote. I got to check the vote. I got to check the vote. I got to check the vote. I got to check the vote. I got to check the vote. I got I got it. I got to check. I got you. I got you both. I got to check the boat I never heard of normal because normally during the game. I wore red shoes cuz I clown fools That what I did

Let me tell you what I'm gonna do I'm gonna give it to you the first half So you gonna be jealous that I didn't give you any so I'm gonna give it to you the second half But I'll just gonna get it half all y'all about to get all this here. So don't worry about it. Don't worry about shit. Don't tell him to shut up and stop talking to me. Cause I'm about to start talking to you. I'm about to hit you up too.

Oh yeah. How you get, how you do that? A hundred. I got, I got, I got to check that. I ain't, I ain't. I know you did. And after that, nobody else could ever get a hundred. They now after 99, they cut it out. After 99, they cut it out. No, no more hundred.

So you were the last hundred then? After me, there'll be no more. Okay. I like that. It's 99 right. It's only it's up there right now. They're looking at it. When they got the 99 tight end, like Gronk right now. They looking at it. When they got the 99 tidy, like Gronk was 99 for a couple of years, Kelsey's been 99 for a couple of years, but the first guy up there, you better stop playing with me. I'm too big of a cat to be playing like a kitten.

Somebody gotta send that to my phone, man. Somebody gotta send that to my phone. You working, hold on, hold on. That's like. Hold on. That's like that's like hold on. That's like being in the grocery store and starving. How the hell you gonna own a grocery store and starve? You work at EA. How the hell you talk about these kids in your phone? Yeah I work at EA but you

talk about 99, 99. I was still in high school in 99 so I don't really I gotta go back. That's how long I been kicking folks. When you was in junior high I was cooking them. I used to go up I keep telling back. That's how long I've been kicking folks. When you was in junior high, I was cooking them. I used to go up, I keep telling you, people used to see me on the field with a pain, with a pot. They say, man, what you got in that pot?

I said, I'm gonna cook you foods. That's why I got this pot out here on the field. I'm cooking crabs today. Yeah, it's a low country boy. I got crab, I got a sausage, I got corn on the cob, I got potatoes, all you bums getting it. Yeah, I'm giving it to them.

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radio app, Apple podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. Presented by Capital One, founding partner of iHeart Women's Sports. Okay, let's jump right into it. Before we get into some topics, tell us about your wide out camp, because there's like, D Lyman got a camp, the tight ends have what they call tight end U, and I think you started what you call wide out workout camp last week.

The clip of you being emotional and grateful to the guys that showed up, in that case, Chat hasn't seen it yet. We're gonna play this clip for you. Take a look at it. You all know how much I love the game. You know how much I love y'all. Right, throughout the years,

you've tweeted about every last one of y'all. So you already know how I feel about you. And they brought the idea to me. I talked to the court, I talked to some of y'all boys yesterday. And I was scared to make that call. Yes, sir. Let it out, man. And I was scared to make that call. Because... Ooh. Yes, sir.

Let it out, man. That's what it's about. Right. Let it out. You deserve it, man. You deserve it, man. That's why we gotta come together. We're here for you, bro.

We're here for you, bro. We're here for you. We're here for you. We're here for you. We're here for you. We're here for you. We're here for you. We're here for you.

We're here for you. Hey, it's a lot of pride. You go in a receiver position. Honestly, I thought some of the big boys big boys and just any y'all y'all busy. I'm busy. You know, I you know that be so for you to show up Mean the world to me like I don't cry Normally, and I really ain't really shame me doing in front of y'all. I swear to God. I appreciate you swear to God, I appreciate you. Swear to God. And I look forward to what we do tomorrow. We're gonna keep talking, talk about the game of football.

I don't wanna ruin you to death, but more wanna get into what you need to work on to improve, you know? Where you can get back to work and feel good about something new that you got in your store from somebody else, somebody else's game, you know, other than that. Let's all get out of this rain, man.

Like, I seriously sweet y'all, man. Clap it out, y'all, clap it out, clap it out, clap it out. Hey, hey, that was dope. That was a good feeling, a good feeling. A lot of people are probably watching with not great understanding about the love I have for the game, not just the game in general, but the craft when it comes to that artwork, when it comes to playing the position of receiver and how much I embedded

in love that artistry. And for those fellas to show up on, for the big boys to actually show up for me, it meant a lot. It meant a lot. For one, for me to be so far removed from the game and to want to help those that are still playing, you know, and finding tweaks and things that they can improve on and add to their game. There's nothing that we have as a collective group, as receivers, we can all get together under one umbrella and talk about the game of football, talk about route running and anything that comes along with that, ways to manipulate defenses, ways to give illusions that you run a full speed then when you really not.

Just little tricks in the trade of the craft in itself and boy showed up. They showed up because I look at them as a fan. I don't look at them as Ocho that's already played. I look at them in awe. Like I'm looking up to them and they tried to get me to see, fool, you tripping. We look up to you because we still studying your stuff from way back then. But I don't view myself like that or in that light, which is why the emotion and the tears came from. Like I can't believe it. They actually showed up.

Um, T Higgins, Jamal Chase, Corla Sun, Jerrity. We talk about people that are already established in the league that had got their big paydays. They ain't got, they don't have to come out here. They don't have to, but it's a testament. Forget them coming for me, a testament where they are with their game and wanting to improve and get better at their craft and what they do. Well, they want to get better.

I mean, if they have a, I guarantee you, if they have a convention and they invite the top 100 tech guys, I guarantee you they're going to show up because iron sharpens iron. You know, we got to get out of this illusion where I don't want to give away no secrets. I don't want to give away no secrets and I'm trying to do this. I keep this to myself. What good is all this knowledge if you hoard it? Somebody had to, you, I don't care what any receiver tells you he did not learn or forget the position.

He did not learn everything on his own. He got it from somewhere. So when instead of you sharing it, you want to hoard it. Now what if somebody would have done that to you? What if somebody would have hoarded that information and teach you how to bend and how to dip? Yeah. Or somebody teach you how to snatch pull. So now you get the information, but see, that's how we are.

See, a lot of times Ocho, we'll get up. Now we'll use the ladder to get up. And once we get up, we'll pull the ladder up to make sure nobody else get up there with us. Yes, sir. Yes, sir. Yes, sir. How many times have we seen that? We see it a lot. I ain't gonna get political with you,

but we see a lot of that. A lot of people came through immigration. Now they got over here, kick that ladder down. You ain't getting up here. I'm here now, so damn you. And a lot of times athletes have that same mentality. Somebody in part take, and maybe it wasn't publicly. Maybe it was a private setting.

Now, someone in part gave you wisdom and knowledge and understanding. You wanna pretend like you got that all on your own. What I like most, Ocho, cause a lot of times these guys forget that there was somebody before them. And it seems like if it didn't happen in the internet age, it didn't happen. Right.

Oh man, I don't know about that guy. When I got got a hundred and something touchdown, that guy have 15, 16, 17,000 yards. Oh, you thought they just started playing wide receiver like 30 years ago? Right. I like sometimes, sometimes not all, there's no such thing as all or every.

Guys forget, I'm not taking women out of this, you can talk about the WNBA, we'll talk about that at a later date and time. I'm just talking about men in professional sports. It's almost like we want to poo poo. The one thing that I've never done is I've never forgot the guys that laid the foundation from the Mackeys to the Dicas to the Aussies to the Winslow's the second to the Jackie Smith, guys like that Raymond Chesters. I know the history of that position. I know the history

of the tight end position and of the NFL. So therefore I'm greatly, greatly appreciative. of the tight end position and of the NFL. So therefore I'm greatly, greatly appreciative. But that was great. That was really great to see. I'm glad you got an opportunity to that. Hopefully, hopefully you can get sponsors like we see at tight end you and it gets bigger and bigger and better

and better year after year. So that kudos to you. Yeah, most definitely. We had a- Taking time out of your busy schedule and say, you know what guys, I want to bring you guys together and impart take some of the wisdom that I've been given over the course of the years. And maybe only one to two people got something out of what you said or what someone else said. But that was success because that was

information they wouldn't have gotten had they not been there. Yeah, it was dope. And my favorite part of the two days that we had together was sitting there talking, obviously, to Jerry, talking to Elijah Moore, KJ Osborne, all them boys. But the great the greatest conversation that I really enjoyed was me. Uno, obviously, Jamar, Jamar, Jamar, Chase, Jerry, Judy Judy, and Coralyn Sutton. And we had a 30 minute discussion. I'm talking about a good 30 on ways to beat Pat Surtane Jr. Ah!

Hey, Unc, we sat here. He so, he so. I swear for God. The first thing they all say, Judy, he so long. He so patient. Chase say anything short, he's so long, he's so patient. Chase say anything short, you're not gonna be able to run it. And the conversation about Pat is a testament to him

to how great he is and how good he is. And of course, I said what I could, we went back and forth, it was a great dialogue on that. Then they all talked about the other DBS that are very, very difficult, not as long, but technically sound and savvy. They talked about the other DBs that are very, very difficult, not as long, but technically sound and savvy. They talked about Denzel Ward on how difficult Chase talks about how difficult it is to go to Denzel Ward. Yeah. When you play him, you got to be on your P's and Q's.

They talked about Stingley. When you play Stingley, you got to be on your P's and Q's. Obviously, there are other great, there are other great deeps and backs in the NFL, but the way those dudes praised Pat Surtain, Stinley and Denzel Ward, man, it was wonderful. Wonderful. The thing to help Pat, who is his dad? So his dad was a pro bowler. Yes, sir.

So he had great, so the first thing I noticed about Pat Surtain when he got to Alabama, I say this for a freshman. This dude is technically sound like he should be in the league already. You look at him and there's no wasted motion. There's there ain't nothing. There ain't no, you know, he try a boom. If you release inside, boom, bam. I'm like damn he technically sound. Yeah, ain't no wasted motion.

I mean he get he bam and with a whenever whenever back foot plant he driving. Yeah, every time. But as he talked about we had him on Ocho and he was the one the defensive player of the year and we talked to him. He said look study. I'm looking at formations. I'm looking at splits. I'm looking at down in distance.

I'm looking at area of the field. I'm also looking at formations. I'm looking at splits. I'm looking at down and distance. I'm looking at area of the field. I'm also looking at, okay, the personnel, all that. That's why you need to be smart as a football player because you got to be able to process that in an instant. Instantly, yeah. He who hesitate in sports is beat.

Yeah. It's a game of inches. You know, and in the NFL, unless it's a blown coverage, you throw people open. And these guys in this league are good enough to throw a receiver open. So, you can't waste motion because the really good receivers are not going to waste motion. Hey, all that dropping in your arms. Hey, you telling the DB I'm about to stop. I'm about to break. You telling him. The ball going the other way. You guys, you guys were telling, hey dude, I'm about to run this out. Break on it. Yeah. Because that's

what's going to happen. So it was, it was great to see you in that environment. Ocho, I know you love, you love everything about coaching except coaching itself, because you damn sure ain't going to put those... You ain't going to want to put that kind of hours in and be on time. That's what time's the diet. No, no, no. I want you to come out there and talk to him during the summer. You ain't going to be no coach.

Yeah, but listen, I can't coach in a structured environment, but when it comes to talking the game of actually route running, getting open, understanding what's across for you and how to beat it, now that I can do. Now that I can do. But you know what I noticed, Ocho? What about the run blocking? I ain't see you do none of that. Oh, hey, I'm glad you said it. I'm glad you said that. Now, if you look at Moustache statistically, this is one of the things that really aren't shown statistically. I'm the greatest run blocker in the history of the NFL.

Oh, Lord. that is not true. I'm just telling you, I'm just telling you. Now when you think about blocking, everyone thinks about a physical specimen when it comes to playing receiver. Sometimes the indicator is just being who you are in general. Yeah. And all I got to do, sometimes I ain't got to touch nobody. I just run off and I take three people with me. Mm-mm. Well, I think the thing is for the, you look at the West Coast, you look at West Coast offenses, those guys got to touch nobody. I just run off and I take three people with me. Well, I think the thing is for the,

you look at the West Coast, you look at West Coast offenses, those guys got a block or you're not getting the ball. You look at a guy like a Heinz Ward who made his name in the league. Like, you know, before he was able to catch, end up catching a thousand passes. He was known as a blocker.

He was physical. I mean, Heinz, he took pride. He's like, when y'all try to tear my head off, when I got the ball in my arms, now I get an opportunity to peel your cap, I'm peeling it all the way back to the white meat. Wait a minute, wait a minute, wait a minute, wait a minute. Now you said Hines was physical. Now that's not to take nothing away from me. Now I was a very physical blocker too now. That's your game. It's not my game, but it was, I had it in my repertoire when I used it to be. Yeah, yeah. It's a tool that you didn't use. So you know how people got a toolbox

and they got all the tools in there and they only used a flat handle, a Phillips head screwdriver, they used the vice grips, they used the monkey wrench, and they use the adjustable wrench. That's it, but they got a hundred apparatus in there. But at the end of the day, it's all about getting the job done. Yes, sir.

Whether you got, if you got force, you push that corner and then come down on it, because they don't let you crack no more, Ocho. It's hard. Oh no. It's getting harder and harder to block, because you know, you used to be able to push that, push the corner and then see that safety creep down there and then crack him out it blind

side black what they call it blind side block the fist man yeah head on the swivel bro you got to do you just stand in the way fold your arms oh you got to move because the pile of get you yeah oh yeah the pile of you got to worry about that pile of chill so you got to keep your feet moving cuz you know, hey, we all done been rolled up on. Yeah Keep it ain't no damn fun Ocho put put pro football addict named the top ten trash talkers in NFL history This leak this listen this list is bulljive because yours truly isn't on it number one chat Oh Joe Senko number, Smitty Steve Smith

Senior. Three, Richard Sherman. Number four, me. Number five, Dion. Number six, Philip Rivers. Number seven, T.O. Number eight, Suggs. Number nine, Ray Lewis. Number 10, Courtland Sutton. I feel I should be number one, but- Oh, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey,

hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, You were great at it. You were- You're a bitch. Let me, let me, let me stay with me now. You were great at it. But you have to understand, I took it to levels never seen or done before. It's the biggest party of the summer. WWE SummerSlam is here and Wrestling with Freddie is all over it. We're talking wild matches, big surprises and our boldest predictions yet. From celebrity showdowns to the chaos inside a steel cage, we're breaking down every match and calling who we think walks out on top. This card is loaded. From Cody Rhodes, John Cena, Rhea Ripley, and Tiffy, just to name a few, this lineup is ready to tear down

the house. We'll give you our unfiltered takes, honest debates, and you already know a ton of laughs along the way. We're covering the upsets, the wild returns, and the championship moments nobody expects. We'll get into the matches that steal the show, the storylines that explode, and those, oh my God, did that just happen moments that make SummerSlam legendary. Don't miss it. Listen to Wrestling with Freddie as part of the My Kultura podcast network. Find us on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. I'm Jake Hofer, and this is Back 40, a limited series show on Wired to Hunt hunt part of Meat Eaters

podcast network. Each episode I'll be asking eight white tail hunting pros a focused, thought provoking question about hunting and land management. How do I hunt the best part of the farm with less than ideal access? Should you? That's what the real question is. Stand without good access is not a good stand. Listen to Back 40 on iHeartRadio app, Apple podcast, or wherever you get your podcast.

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And so the succession plan of long term success needs to be defined. We need to embrace this community. When I was 13, my uncle took me to a qualifier and we watched Paraguay against Chile, pouring rain, just watching the fans jumping up and down. I think that was definitely a watershed moment for me. Not only was that going to be my game, but it was going to be my life. Listen to San Diego FC Behind the Flow, now on the iHeartRadio app, Apple podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts.

Get fired up, y'all. Season two of Good Game with Sarah Spain is underway. We just welcomed one of my favorite people and an incomparable soccer icon, Megan Rapinoe, to the show, and we had a blast. We talked about her recent 40th birthday celebrations, co-hosting a podcast with her fiance Sue Bird, watching former teammates retire and more.

Never a dull moment with Pino. Take a listen. What do you miss the most about being a pro athlete? The final, the final and the locker room. I really, really, like you just, you can't replicate, you can't get back. Showing up to the locker room every morning just to talk.

We've got more incredible guests like the legendary Candice Parker and college superstar AZ Fudd. I mean, seriously, y'all, the guest list is absolutely stacked for season two. And you know, we're always gonna keep you up to speed on all the news and happenings around the women's sports world as well.

So make sure you listen to Good Game with Sarah Spain on the iHeart radio app, Apple podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. Presented by Capital One founding partner of iHeart women's sports. Okay. There's a certain entertainment value to the trash talk that I provided. I was talking trash, right? Let me stay with me real quick. Just real quick.

On a losing team and I can fill a stadium with my trash talk alone. So the seats, we sold out because they come to see what I'm going to do based off what I said. You see what I'm saying? You see what I'm saying? Yeah, come on, come on now. Stay with me now. This is different.

So when I play away, they come in to see what he's going to do next based off what he said. Now the pressure was on me to be able to make sure I gave people their money's worth after I did all the talking. That's pressure in itself. So yeah, I'm not taking nothing away from you were great at what you did. But it just I just had a different aspect and different entertainment value to my trash. What clip do they show all the time? Calling that calling the National Guard.

Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Oh Joe, you do realize I had a coach a coach resigned and a player got suspended because I was trash talking.

Right. I got you. I got you. I got you. But you got to understand. Listen, I lost money behind my entertainment and trash talking. I send gifts to my opponents and secondaries to elevate the level of trash talk. The bravado in which I brought to the game is a little different.

Now you did, you used, hey listen, you was phenomenal. You have to remember I did it in a losing effort, in a losing atmosphere. Just to make it fun for those watching and those- I need to be mic'd up more when I was getting into it. Cause you know, Ocho, you realize like, you don't talk as much when you mic'd up because the simple fact is, people gonna think, oh, he don't do that much talking,

he just doing this cause he mic'd up. See, the difference is, right? Notice I never wore a mouthpiece. I just had the mouthpiece on. I didn't wear a mouthpiece cause I need to be able mouthpiece. I just had it out of the goal. I didn't wear a mouthpiece because I need to be able to converse with you throughout the entirety of the game. Yeah, yeah.

And the problem is, this is the thing. I'm not talking, I think you talk, Steve Smith talk trash to get the person angry. Yeah. Richard Sherman talk trash to get the person angry. Cam Newton, I saw his little clip earlier about him being the best trash talker and said he gets people upset.

I'm not trying to get you upset. I don't want you mad. I want you happy. I just need to see if you can engage with me and converse with me in the middle of a game. I got you mentally. You already beat. I don't care what you get.

You can get mad, you can get happy at the end of the day. Right. Right. Tit. Right. Tidus! Tidus, what's up? What? Tidus, where you been at? What?

Where they do twin? You supposed to be holding it down. So who did you offer work? That's what I need to know. Who did you offer work? Huh? Oh, Tidus, look at my dog, man. My dog chillin', man.

Where your brother? Say, I got another brother here. I'm talking to my dog, man. My Thanos. Yeah. Wait, you named him Thanos? Yeah. Well, god damn he that big. Where do you see him? Cheryl, bring Thanos. Oh, boy. I know that. Hey, I know that joke a big. How much you weigh about 160? What the

hell? That was four pounds. That ain't Teddy Bear. Hello everybody. My name is Thanos. Well, he ain't gonna grow no more? Yeah, he maxed out Ocho. That's it. What you got to give you got to give him a better name than that like Pee Wee. Nah, he don't want to be no Pee Wee. He say I'm big.

He say I run stuff around here. He say time to get a bone. I take it. I like that. What happened to Teddy Bear? Teddy Bear on the couch. How did they get along? Man, he be harassing Teddy Bear like something crazy. Yeah.

When I had the other one, I had Baby. Teddy Bear was a nuisance, was a menace. Right. I mean, the other one couldn't get no peace. Now all he doing is repaying the favor. Okay, okay. I got it, I got it, I got it. I like that, I like that.

But how much, I don't mean to be in your pocket. But how much that was there? No, you get focused. Huh? I ain't, I don't mean to be in your pocket. I'm just curious how much that was there. You know, you look a little something. You know something?

I can't tell you where I got it from because you know, it had been a tariff on it. Okay, okay, okay, okay. I understand. I know that you really want to answer that question. I'm still trying to, I just want to know the numbers on it, that's it. You know, little something, you know,

little treat myself. I ain't bought myself nothing, you know. Okay, okay, okay. I still got the same range, the same BMW. So, you know, let me get myself some. I ain't bought a watch, I ain't bought no clothing. And so, you know, that was my birthday gift that I got early.

Okay, okay. But listen, listen, listen, I'm, listen, I told you, I told you, I got a dude out of Liberty City, right? Yeah. I got a dude in Liberty City, gets you everything exotic. From animals, to dogs, to pets, to, to, to, Yeah, I know y'all. I could have got you that. I could have got it in Liberty City. Gets you everything exotic. From animals to dogs to pets. Yeah, I know that.

I could have got you that. I could have got you that for 200. Now I'm just saying, what's that? A teacup, right? Teacup, pom-pom? No, he's regular size. He's not gonna get much bigger than that. Teacups, I mean, teacups, they'd be like three pounds.

They have a lot of health issues. You said he was four pounds though. He's four pounds. He'll probably top out at about six. Okay, okay, that's cool. Cause I got my dog, my dog in Liberty City is named Lonzo. You need to get you a puppy.

You need to get you something to keep you grounded. You travel too much. Hey, I can't do that. I can't, all my furniture white here. I don't want no dogs running around here. I ain't got no time for that. Everything, everything in here is white. You know you can train an animal, right? Yeah, I ain't got no time for that. Everything, everything and his wife. You know, you can, you know, you can train an animal, right? Yeah.

I ain't got that kind of time. I ain't got that kind of time, baby. All right. So the top two, uh, top 10 trash talkers, Ocho is number one, Smitty, number two, Shurm three, myself is four, time is five, Philip Rivers. I've been thinking about it. A quarterback has made the list. Hey, he beats, Hey, he don't curse, but he, he funny though. He be think about it. A quarterback has made the list. Hey, he be, hey, he don't curse, but he funny though. He be talking. Dog it. Hey, with that one, when you threw that touchdown

against Jacksonville and he screamed in the bowl, guys here, hey, hey, hey, ref, tell him that's true. Okay. I will scream in your ear. No, you won't. Tio, Suggs, Sugar, and Cortland Fidaget. That's a nice little list. It's a nice list.

It is, it is. I mean, I'm sure some people will look at the list, they will disagree with the numerical order. Oh, I got one. John Randall. You gotta have Johnny on here. You gotta have Johnny on here. That's my classmate.

We came out the same draft in 1990. Johnny was, people don't know this, but Johnny was a free agent. Johnny got drafted as a 230-pound defense, 230, he was 230 at the defense alignment. Oh yeah. And turned himself into one of the great DTs that had a relentless motor.

Yes, sir. Yeah, DT, he was nice, Jay was nice, boy. Apparently, Cam called us out to think he's a better trash talker. Let's listen to what Cam had to say. When it comes to putting these nouns and verbs, you know what I'm saying? Putting it together, it comes down to just being witty.

You dig what I'm saying? Yeah, I'm trying to tell you, Peggy. Sometimes you got to point your toes east and west to let everybody know who's the actual best and I know disrespect to uncle uncle Shay and Chad Chadwick Johnson, huh? But they would have hated me because I'm gonna to get personal. You feel what I'm saying? Oh, yeah, we got to do that. I don't fight fair.

I don't talk fair. But it's some truth behind everything that I say. And that's where I'm willing to go. Man, I say some, oh, try to make your kids hate me. You see, you see that? See, he's he's talking trash trying to get under someone's skin. That's not the type of trash talk I did. I talked trash in an entertainment value way.

For fun to have fun, to let you know, we don't compete. See, that's just talking. I went I took it the extra mile. Do people not realize the week before a game? I FedEx the secondaries gifts as a small way to taunt in a certain way. Nothing malicious but to have fun. That was a token of your appreciation. Exactly. I'll let you know. I'm thinking of you. D'Angelo.

Oh, I sent them boys in Atlanta, I sent them gifts. You know, obviously we know what I did for the Steelers. I had a sponsorship with Degree Deodorant. I sent the Ravens Secondary. I sent in Degree Deodorant as a gift, because y'all stank. Or you're gonna be stinking when I'm done with that's all that's all fun and love and you know before game So that's it his type of trash talking what I'm what I'm doing is completely do two different side

Side to the spectrum, but I respect what he did, but he's nothing not even close We're not in the same stratosphere when it comes to talking trash Cuz for me, like I said, I went to an HBCU. Come on, that's all you do. If you go to an HBCU, I don't know who's out there listening that has been to an HBCU. But if you can't Joan, you can't. You ain't gonna survive.

You can't survive. You ain't gonna survive. I mean, hey, y'all heard me going back and forth. I'm talking about, we just, this ain't no, you know, hey, I don't know who I'm gonna talk trash to in the game. It all depends on who starts talking trash back or who started first. I'm gonna get it started, you know, I'm gonna say something

and I'm gonna see, I will keep going until I, hey, I'm gonna turn the door handle until, see which one's open. Cause a lot of them be locked, don't you? They ain't gonna say nothing to you. But I'm i'm gonna keep hey everybody don't lock their doors at night you know what i'm saying if somebody run down on you because you know it used to be in the 70s and early december the 80s you can sleep with your door open let alone lock yeah but now people get crazy after dark you got to keep your hand on your thing so with that being said everybody locking the doors but not everybody somebody go forget. Oh, yeah,

because they thought somebody else locked the door. Oh, that's when I turned the handling and be going on in. Yeah. But Cam, look, I know you good. I know you good at putting things together, you know, adverbs and predicates and pronouns and adjectives. Oh, no. But when it comes when it comes, when it comes to lip sparring, I'm talking about just go. Talk to him, Monk. And Cam, that's another thing. You worried about who's the better trash talker.

Yeah, I need to be practicing Madden. I need to be practicing Madden because I'm still waiting on that smoke, all that talking you're doing. And matter of fact, I got be practicing Madden, because I'm still waiting on that smoke. All that talking you're doing. And matter of fact, I got the new Madden already. I got Madden 26. So you practice it by the time, so when he get it, you're going to be proficient at it. Matter of fact, the funny thing about it is, I am the best gamer. I'm the best Madden player in the world.

I have an advantage over everyone else, because I'm a part of the production of the game in itself. So the fact that people think they can beat me, it's almost laughable. Like I told you, Cam, Cam and Dez Brian, I love them fellas. They play for recreation. I play video games as a way of life. It's how I pay my bills. That's why I don't understand when they come at me and talk about beating me in a video game. What you talking about?

My life getting cut off if I'm playing for bills. You think I'm going to miss my light bill and my mortgage because you think you're going to beat me and Matt? Man, nigga. Well, my life getting cut off. I ain't got no central heating and cooling because if I got to play video games to pay bills, ain't nothing jumping off.

No. I mean, the only thing I probably can play, I probably can't even play. Oh Joe, I probably, I mean, I think I played like, I used to play Ms. Pac-Man, play Josh or something like that, but I was, I mean, we didn't have no video, I mean, we could go to the arcade, we get a couple of quarters, we go with my sister, we go wash clothes, and they would have some video games,

a pool table, something like that, but I was, the water. Uh we go with my sister. We go wash clothes and they would have some video games or pooling table or something like that but I was now now shooting pool now. Oh, you know how to shoot. I beat effort. Be Minnesota fast. They call me slim. Willie Musconi, Steve Miserat, Hey, I don't know about that, boy. You got to show me. Yannett Lee, Vivian.

You got to show me. You got to show me. Best in the house, Ocho. You got to show me, because pool is what I do. Huh? Pool is what I do. They, listen, you know what they used to call me? I used to play at the pool hall, right?

On 54th Street Right off it right off the 10th 12th Avenue But they used to call me sugar cane Come up from a pool stick my pool stick look like sugar cane. It was green. Yeah, it was green They call you green if you think you could beat me But you can't be slim you can't be Georgia slim don't do it to yourself, please you can't be Georgia slim Who you that's what I beat fast. I beat Minnesota fast. Oh, come on man You can't be slim. You can't be Georgia slim. Don't don't do it to yourself, please. You can't be Georgia slim. Who you that's

what I beat fast. I beat Minnesota fast. Oh, come on, man. Ask about me out here in the city, man. When it come to hey, listen when it come to the pool, pool table, when it come to ping pong, I'll be the that's what I do when it come to

handball. I'll be the issue out of you and table tennis. Boy, boy listen, boy. Boy, I told you they call me sugar cane. I had a green pool stick. They call me sugar cane. I'm gonna mess around and catch you one day. I'm gonna catch you one day somewhere and they gonna have a pool table in there. They gonna have a table tennis thing in there. Oh, wait, wait, wait. We you ain't got to catch me nowhere. I'll come where you at and we can go to a pool hall because we got plenty

of them. I bet you got your own stick. My stick right here. Oh, Joe, I beat you with a broomstick. I don't need no damn pool for you to beat you. See, you ain't you ain't no, you ain't no real, you ain't no real pool player. You

know, the house. Hey, hey, I'm a shark, let you down pool to beat you. See you ain't you ain't you ain't you ain't a real you ain't a real pool player. You know the house. Hey, hey, I'm a shark, man. They call me when they they call me when somebody at the pool hall that think they good. I'll let you win a couple of

games to let you bet the money then I come in and whoop whoop nah come on man. Tighten up this. Oh, Joe. While we're waiting, there's some people that have some words for you. For me, Chris Carter has some words for Ocho last week. He said there were points. Oh, yep. He said there were points in Chad's career that you had to go out there and tell him what to do because he couldn't get open to save his life. He couldn't get

open against average guys. Chad Johnson scored double digit touchdowns one time in his 11 years. I think I scored double digit touchdowns six times. Scoring the football is the number one play as a receiver. No, I was not a burner. I read four six, four six five, but can do it every single day. Can do it for four quarters and the consistent at it. Ocho? You know what that get?

Child please. I don't know what, I'm just trying to think. I have a question before you even go. What the hell is that matter? What does it matter? Okay, you scored double touchdowns. Okay, cool. You want a cookie? Right. Okay. Who brought this on? Have you had a conversation? Have you had you had, have you had a conversation with Cece? No, I don't, I don't need to have a question. So right. I heard also, we said, well, he only had double digit touchdowns one season.

So he's not a hall of Famer. But does that mean Julio Jones is not a hall of fame either because Julio Jones only had double digitdowns one season. You had dumb, you had dumb nats sounds? Yeah. Well sometimes I listen to things and everyone's situation is different, you know? Everyone's situation different. Yeah.

I mean, so stuff like that, I pay it no mind because everything is predicated off numbers and based on what they did, based on other people's situations were different. Obviously where I was, I did the best I could with the cards I was dealt. And I did one hell of a goddamn job. I don't care about what you did. I don't care about your numbers. It don't make me none.

Why is my name even being brought up? That's what I'm trying to figure out. I don't know why I was brought up. I don't, cause like I said, Ocho, out. I don't know why it was brought up I don't cuz like I said, oh Joe me. I Don't really listen to anybody else's podcast. I got enough thing to try to you know to try to Make our podcast better than what it is and I got my shake shake So I'm trying to get gas and I'm going with the book is like, okay Who do you think we should get blah blah blah, so I don't really have time to pay attention

But it just kept popping up not only on on on on it kept popping up on Twitter and then I saw it on the internet. I'm like what okay what brought this about? I said did Ocho say something about him or what what transpired? For one you know I don't talk about people. Yeah we definitely don't talk about people that do what we do. Never and you know I don't talk about about. Let's start with we definitely don't talk about people that do what we do. Never. And you know, I don't talk about about nobody, you know, but you know, congratulations on everything he said. I happy happy for you. Chris Cardi, your double digit touchdowns and your Hall of Fame and all that other good stuff. I love you. I wish you content continued success and whatever it is you got going on, baby. I know what we're doing over here, though. you got going on, baby? I know what we doing over here though.

I know where I'm going. I'm going that way. Maybe he wanted you to respond. I didn't respond, I just said I love him. No, but I'm saying I thought, I mean I think maybe he wanted you to respond in a different way. And then it goes back and forth.

I ain't got time for that. Look, Uncle Tumito got to forth. First of all, you got kids, I got kids, I got grandkids. I'm not fitting to go look what we did we did. Okay, he can't go back and score no more touchdowns. You can't go back and score no

more touchdowns. Okay, we're right here. Hey, hold on. I'm still scoring touchdowns right now. Oh man, yes, you're doing that. Great job, oh man. I'm still scoring touchdowns in life. He tell me I will be played. I don't care about that.

I'm scoring double-digit touchdowns right now. Yeah, for sure. Come on, man. You not see, you not hear where I'm coming from. I hear what you're saying. I know. I know. But that's my thing is that sometimes we get called up

and talk about what we used to do. We all were great. What you doing that? Talk to me. What you doing that? We were all great at once upon a time in our own right. OK? You know, you did what you did.

I think Cece played 16 seasons. Wait, how many? How many you played? 16. I think CC played 16 seasons. Wait, how many how many he played? 16. How many I played? I don't know. Hell, you played. I think you played 11 to 12, didn't you? 11. How many? Hey, I played 11. He played 16. How many yards you got? Man, look here.

I'm just asking. I'm just trying to just asking I'm just trying I'm trying to get it better understand How many yards you got? I don't ask ask look ask how many yards does uh cc have? But okay The chat says cc snapped because he was pissed at ocho for saying that he could beat Travis in a one-on matchup Ten out of 10 times. Why is he worried about? Bro, we'd just be joking when we say stuff, man. It ain't that serious.

Oh, he knew that. He knew that. Because I do the same thing with everybody. He just... You do? You just... And so I said, Ocho, can you not challenge everybody that come on here? Who? You. Everybody that come on here can get that work.

You hear me? And Travis... ZZ had a kick below 14,000 yards. Who you you everybody that come on here can get that work. You hit me and Travis. He's got a kick below 14,000 yards. He had 13,899 yards. So he played 15 season 16, I think 16 and he got what 13,000 yards almost 14,000. Okay, so he plays 1516. He only got 3,000 more yards than me and played five more

season. They had 11? I guess, yeah. Okay, okay, I'm just trying to get a better understanding on why, okay, cool. Anyway, but like I was saying, anybody that come on this show, I had the utmost confidence in my ability

and being able to do any and everything. That's something that a lot of people in this world lack. Even if you feel you can't do it, you have to feel you can because everything starts up here in the mind. So everybody that comes over here, regardless of what sport they play or whatever it is that they do, I feel I can beat them. And if you feel you can beat me doing at what you do best, whatever it may be, you're going to have to show me.

You're going to have to show me. Matter of fact, Chris Carter. I love Chris Carter ass up right now. About what he did. You should he 60. Huh? He's 60. What that mean?

He talking like he still got it. Get out here. Get on the field lining up. But at least I'll lock your ass up to him and Travis on him. We got a pulse. That's what we got. So we breathe it. We walk it, we get up out of bed, we got our right mind, blood running warm in our veins. Wait a minute, wait a minute, wait a

minute. See, this is the thing about it. One thing about the wide receiver camp, the workshop that I just had is I'm not just talking. I'm not just saying what it should look like. I'm not there with my cleats and my shoes on. What? At that running full speed, I still got it, you hear me? So it's one thing, once you go back in that structure and environment, you know what the X's and O's, you have a receiver coach that actually never played, never really played the game. They just know the game based on paper and what it should look like. Yeah.

Like I'm not there running them routes with you. I'm not only just, I'm not telling you what it should look like. I can actually display it and with you. I'm not only just I'm not telling you what it should look like. I can actually display it and show you. Boy, this is this is Picasso. Yeah, I'll say this, look, I've known CC a long time. His brother and I used to hang with the Superbowls and stuff. I would just say this, CC know when the man joking. He wasn't that serious. Nah, nah, nah. Cece, I love you, baby, but put them cleats on. Put them cleats on. I'm going to show you. Double digit touchdown.

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