Nightcap - BEST of RELATIONSHIPS Part 1: TOP FIRST Date Spots, KEYS to Flirting, Rubi Rose's PERFECT man | Nightcap

Episode Date: July 24, 2026

Shannon Sharpe, Chad "Ochocinco" Johnson, and Joe "King Iso" Johnson bring you the Best of Relationships on Nightcap! The crew shares their honest takes on modern dating, including the best first date... locations, Rubi Rose saying a man should make $5 million a year, and whether Shannon Sharpe could be getting married soon. Subscribe to Nightcap presented by PrizePicks so you don’t miss out on any new drops! Download the PrizePicks app today and use code SHANNON to get $50 in lineups after you play your first $5 lineup! Visit https://prizepicks.onelink.me/LME0/NI... 0:00 - First Date locations 18:39 - Rubi Rose says a man needs to make $5M Annually?! 37:45 - Unc getting married soon? 56:12 - Confidence is KEY (Timestamps may vary based on advertisements.) #ClubSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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Starting point is 00:02:54 So please subscribe or you're going to make Ocho crack. A viral list of 28 places women refused to go on the first date has sparked a major debate. online, Ocho. The list quickly gained traction as people argue over what qualifies as an acceptable first impression spot.
Starting point is 00:03:14 The debate reflects on shifting dating standards among younger generations with many women emphasizes effort, creativity, and intentions over convenience and affordability. People pointed out the first day often sets the tone for how serious or respectful someone is about pursuing
Starting point is 00:03:30 a relationship. While many agreed that casual chain restaurants aren't ideal, others defended them as comfortable and affordable options, especially in today's high-cost economy. Ocho, there they go. There's the list.
Starting point is 00:03:48 God, damn. Hold on, I know, I know ask... That's one thing. I can't really... I can see it, but I can't zoom in on it. Cheesecake Factory, Applebee's, Chipotle, Olive Garden, the movies, your house, any fast food chain, Buffalo Wild Wings, Wingstop, Red Lobster, a buffet, I hop,
Starting point is 00:04:09 Denny's, the gym, church, y'all going to hell, Starbucks, coffee date, ice cream dates, family functions, movie night, Netflix, Hulu, et cetera, somewhere that requires a long drive, bowling, nightclub, hookah bars, a bar just for drinks, Waffle House, sports events. Damn, where can we take you? Hold on, those are places that they don't want to go? They don't on the first date. Hey, Joe, hey, Uncle Joe, and this is for the people in the chat? None of this matters.
Starting point is 00:04:43 That list is cool. That list is for the dudes. That list is for the dudes that she really doesn't like. I don't like you. So I'm going to set a certain set of rules. That I know you can't get to. That you can't break. But if it's the dude that I do like it.
Starting point is 00:05:03 It don't matter what we're doing. It don't matter what do we do. Drive around the city. Keep on. Yeah. Ocho, you know, I'm from a country town, Joe. You pick your girl up and you just drive around the city. Yeah, yeah.
Starting point is 00:05:15 You sit up by a pickup truck or she sit up on to you. We drive around to the stoplight, you know. We go to the Dary and Queen or a hardy or something like that. Maybe grab a movie, Ocho. That's right. Yeah. Hey, Joe, Uncle, when I see stuff like this, man, I laugh, man. I laugh because there's certain women that can pull stuff off like this,
Starting point is 00:05:34 telling certain type of men where they won't go and what they're, they won't do until a certain type of caliber of man comes along. And then it's okay. Ocho, me and you go into all these spots. Me and Ocho going. Listen, everything they named, that's stuff that I actually do. That's the stuff that I actually do, Joe. I don't meet people and try to set a precedent of, oh, this is how this is going to be.
Starting point is 00:06:02 It's not going to be like that. That's not the way I can. Because you're going to have to keep it up. But being that there are so many dudes, there are so many, whether they have it or not, that set the standard in, and move like that. They move like this right away as if that's how it's going to be all the time just to get their own. Obviously, you know, Joe, come on now, Chad. Let's let's just be honest. For the men, they set the standard and they shoot high purposely to her to get.
Starting point is 00:06:38 to their ingold faster. Speed up the process, don't you? Trying to speed up the process. So they show off. They do all this stuff in the beginning, going crazy. They take you to Chris Ruth and TKS and all these restaurants. Joe, they go above and beyond, Joe, they go above and beyond just to reach their end goal faster. You know, after, you know, after a few months, all that shit papers off and the cycle repeats itself.
Starting point is 00:07:06 Hey, look. Hold on. Hold on. Let me ask you on this. Hold on on the first day. You taking somebody to a family function? On the first, not the first, because that's what they got number 20. I mean, guys do that?
Starting point is 00:07:16 Y'all take somebody on the family function? It depends on what type of family function. Like, you know, you know. No, you can't go around the fact. Not the first time, Joe. I'm saying, what if, what if you got some family members and y'all doing like a little bowling joint, you know what I mean? You tell, no, she can't come around the family.
Starting point is 00:07:32 Because what if she don't come back around? Man, hey, and you bring somebody else. Hey, what that girl you saw? I saw you with the other time, Joe. And that's exactly your family play. Family book. Now, I ain't going to bring around mama. I ain't going to bring around mama.
Starting point is 00:07:46 I ain't going to bring around mama. You know what I mean? But, you know, my cousins and uncles, if we outdoors and y'all come hang out. Yeah, yeah, yeah. It's a no-go for you. No. Hey, Ojo, but I agree with you.
Starting point is 00:08:03 If she really into you and she really like you, bro, don't matter where y'all go. What y'all doing, she's going to be in tune, for sure. Hey, Joe, hey, Joe, let me tell you something, Joe. Boy, I ain't never, me personally, I ain't never really had no problem. And you know how I am, Joe. I'm not trying to impress you.
Starting point is 00:08:24 I take you to the finest of nothing. So if we're dealing, if we rocking, like you're really rocking with me. That means you really like me. because I'm known for being financially savvy. I'm known for being cheap. So if you see someone actually dealing with me, willing to deal with me, they actually like me.
Starting point is 00:08:47 You don't have a choice because you ain't really get nothing up out of me. Honestly, except maybe a child. Oh, Lord, have mercy. Jesus. You know, that's about it. Now, that's something I, you know, I commit to that. So you're out of bubble going, huh? I heard.
Starting point is 00:09:06 Yeah, man. All these nice restaurants and all this other stuff, you know, I'm not investing no money in that. Who we talking about? I remember the first time I was the cheesecake factor. I ain't getting up with the cheesecake. Really? You for really?
Starting point is 00:09:19 Yeah. Hell, I thought the cheesecake factory, I just got the cheesecake. Hey, cheese cake got the pasta that I would have what is called? I don't know. I haven't eaten in the Cheesecake Factory. Probably 30. Damn. It's always crowded.
Starting point is 00:09:46 You ain't lying. Cheesecake Factory? Yes. It'd be busting. Joe, if I'm not mistaken, it's at Lennox Mall. Now, you remember, it used to be on P Street. Yeah, yeah. They still got one at Linux, and they got one over at Perimeter.
Starting point is 00:10:01 Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah, y'all. Yeah, no. Oh, yeah, nah, I ain't going to lie, now. It's, stay jumping in there. It's going to be. I can't, I can't, I can't, I can't wait that, I can't wait that long to eat. I can't. I can't.
Starting point is 00:10:13 Yeah. I can't. I like to look. If you tell me, if you tell me, if I make a reservation for eight o'clock, I'm going to be there, 755, between 755 and 77, I'm going to want to eat. I'm going to want to sit down to the table, no later than 802. Don't, hey, Mr. Sharp, you know, we, you know, you know, you know, you're table be ready shortly. Because, hey, I like to sit down.
Starting point is 00:10:45 Hey, Mr. Sharp, would you like to rate for your rest of your party? No, sir. I like to sit down. Hey, George to tell you, I go, what goes somewhere with the kids? When I go home and the kids, they're like, Mr. Sharp, would you like to wait for the entire party to arrive? I said, no. I would like to sit down. Yeah. Hey, I said, can you bring some bread. I already got bread. I already got,
Starting point is 00:11:07 I already got cranberry and gingerill. I'm like, Daddy, what? You know what time it was? Ain't like I changed the time on y'all. Yeah. So it ain't going to slow you down. Nope. But I get the family functions, okay, church, I mean, the first day that church, uh,
Starting point is 00:11:29 yeah. I don't know. I mean, I didn't know that was, I mean, I've heard of some some first days, you know, we go skydiving, we go rock, you know, wall climbing. We do something. Oh. Hey, now we talking. Did you hear what you just saying?
Starting point is 00:11:47 There ain't no way. Those are the type of dates you need to go on when you first meet somebody. Stuff where you do activities. Man, ain't nobody. First of all, ain't nobody, ain't no, I don't know. Look, that wasn't my first choice.
Starting point is 00:12:01 I did skydiving Joe because when I went to the Broncos Ring of Honor, you know, we got this idea. I was like, what's the idea? They was like, we were thinking about if you were amenable to it, would you be willing to jump out of a plane? I'm like, huh? They're like, yeah, we'd like for you to, you know,
Starting point is 00:12:19 parachute into the stadium. I said, sign your boy up. You did? You did? I did it, yeah. That's dope. That's dope. That's a lot.
Starting point is 00:12:28 But, hey, I think people need to, people need to look more into that but doing activities outside instead of doing the, normal going to nice restaurants, putting on outfits, trying to look good, trying to impress each other. Nah, man, do fun stuff. Can you bowl, Ocho? Can you bowl? Huh? Yeah, but can I bowl?
Starting point is 00:12:49 What you mean? Can I bow? Joe? You can bowl, Joe? Okay. I just bowed a 280. It ain't many things I can't do. I'm just going to keep a lot. Hey, you know, hey. Hey, hey, don't sleep on your boy. There you go. No, no, no.
Starting point is 00:13:05 Hey, Norm Duke, Walter Williams Jr., beat them. Man, stop it. Hey, yo, I got my own bowling ball and right here,
Starting point is 00:13:15 Joe. I got my three or four of them bowling balls. I only got one. I only got room for one. I got shoes, got bags and everything. I got a bag to hold two balls. I got a bag to hold one.
Starting point is 00:13:27 I got shoes, got all that. Got me a little kit. Hey. You got to be like that. If you got out of left, you got to be like, huh?
Starting point is 00:13:35 Hey, hey, Joe. Hey, hey, Joe, don't listen to Uncle the type that he's like, when he's talking about bowling and how good he is, he like the dude that go on the basketball court that have on a full Jordan outfit. Okay. Yeah, that's it. Ask Chris Paul.
Starting point is 00:13:51 Hey, ask Chris Paul what I did to him on that bowling alley. What's your average? What's your average? Ask what I did. What's your average, Ocho? Honestly, probably, probably, probably, probably about $250. What? Probably 250.
Starting point is 00:14:03 No. Yeah. Oh, Joe, you ain't. to be honest. Two-fifty and on average? Yeah, it is. You know how hard it is to go 300? Boy, that's hard.
Starting point is 00:14:13 Yeah, see, the real fact that he said 300 and not a perfect game, that's what you know he ain't. That's why we know he'll know these talk about, Joe. But go ahead. How are you going to tell me? This is my lingo.
Starting point is 00:14:25 I don't have to speak like them. I speak like OSHA. Do you know how hard it is the bowl of 300? That's a perfect game. Yeah, we know how hard it is the bowl of a perfect game. Oh, Joe. Yeah, I said, I don't, I don't, I don't, I don't, I don't, I don't, I don't, I don't, I don't say perfect game. Oh, Joe.
Starting point is 00:14:41 If you bought, if you're asking, how many strikes, how many strikes is a perfect game? 10, what you mean? He don't know what he's talking about. 12. 10. 10. Hold on, you bought a perfect game before. You ain't, boar no perfect game.
Starting point is 00:14:59 Hell now. I don't feel like, I mean, I got, I'm like somewhere between like one, 75 and 200. Yeah. Yeah. God. I'm going to keep it real with you. I'm between 150 by 150 by 150, 180. Hey, hey, boy,
Starting point is 00:15:19 y'all need to hang it up, man, when it comes to compete against me. Oh, so I don't know what to believe with you no more. I'm going to be honest with you. No, hold on. Hold on. First you told me. First you told me.
Starting point is 00:15:27 Like that no more with me, bro. Hey, it ain't, listen. Everything I do, right? Everything I say, I have evidence to back it up. You right. Absolutely. There you go.
Starting point is 00:15:44 But you're talking about pool. Joe. Joe, will you do my favor, Joe? Can you Google how many strikes you need to bowl for a perfect game of 300? I don't know. Now, man, that bowled that average of 250 would know this. I already knew what it was.
Starting point is 00:16:21 My mom used to bowl all the time. It says 12. You got to get a strike the first nine frames in order for you to have a chance. And then you got to get three. bonus frames. Let me ask you a question, what's three consecutive strikes called?
Starting point is 00:16:39 He don't know that. He don't know that. Three consecutive strikes. Gobble, gobble. That's what I know. Turkey. It's called turkey. How I'm going to know?
Starting point is 00:16:53 I ain't know, I ain't know bowler. You say what? Hey, I mean, he asked me, what's three consecutive strike called? I'm not a bowler. I just know how to bowl. Basically what he's saying is if you, if you averaging 250, you don't got a automobingo. No, you don't have to go all-a-lingo.
Starting point is 00:17:15 Why? Because that means you are a serious bowler. No, no, no, no, no, no, no. That's why I know you ain't bowing no-250. Hey, hey, I'm a, I'm a pool shark. Does that mean I know everything there is about pool? I'm one of the better big ping-pong players in the world. Does that mean I know everything there is about ping-pong?
Starting point is 00:17:35 No, no, this is basic. This is not, this is not no in-depth. This is basic. Hold on, hold on. Nothing, nothing I do is basic. This is basic. Man, check this out. A Michigan attorney says he has 12 new divorce cases this month linked to the T app.
Starting point is 00:17:56 A dear boy lawyer says women only social apps that lets their users anonymously share details about men is driving. surge in local divorce. Marketed as the dating safety app for women, T allows users to post names, photos, messages about men they've encountered. In some cases, these posts have revealed infidelity to unsuspecting spouses and family members. He said that might be once,
Starting point is 00:18:23 he said that what might remain private, suspicious, is now amplified with allegations are shared publicly. Now it's just, you know, who knows? your family knows, your friend knows, the whole community knows. The outside pressure changes how people react. Mm. Well, they did that T.F doing a number, ain't it?
Starting point is 00:18:46 I heard it got one out for women, too. That's, that, that, that's, this is it. I mean, for men. Oh, dude. Oh, yeah, I don't do the, I don't do it. Yeah. Damn. But, Ocho, I mean, to put that kind of information out?
Starting point is 00:19:03 Sometimes, sometimes, you need to know. sometimes, man, all that all these nice restaurants and all this other stuff you know, I'm not investing no money in that. Who we talk about?
Starting point is 00:19:15 I remember the first time I was the cheesecake fact I ain't getting no but the cheesecake. Really? You for really? Yeah. Hell, I thought the cheesecake factory I just got the cheesecake.
Starting point is 00:19:29 A cheesecake got a they are pasta that would have what is called? I don't know. I haven't eaten in the Cheesecake Factory probably 30 damn it's always crowded
Starting point is 00:19:46 you ain't lying cheesecake factory yes it be busting Joe if I'm not mistaken it's at Linux mall now you remember it used to be on Peace Street yeah yeah they still they got one at Linux
Starting point is 00:20:00 and they got one over at perimeter oh yeah yeah yeah no I ain't gonna lie now it's stay jumping in there It's going to be. I can't, I can't, I can't wait that. I can't. I can't.
Starting point is 00:20:16 Yeah. I can't. I like to look. If you tell me, if you tell me, if I make a reservation for eight o'clock, I'm going to be there. 755, between 755 and 77, I'm going to want to eat. I'm going to want to sit down to the table no later than 802. Don't, hey, Mr. Sharp, you know, you know, your table will be ready shortly.
Starting point is 00:20:38 because, hey, I like to sit down. Hey, Mr. Sharp, would you like to wait for the rest of your party? No, sir. I like to sit down. Hey, Joe, I want to tell you, I go somewhere with the kids. When I go home with the kids, they're like, Mr. Sharp, would you like to wait for the entire party to arrive? I said, no. I would like to sit down.
Starting point is 00:21:03 Yeah. Hey, I said, can you bring some bread? I already got bread. I already got cranberry and gingerill. I feel like, Daddy, what? You know what time it was? Ain't like I changed the time on y'all. You've heard the chaos.
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Starting point is 00:25:57 Yeah. Say it ain't going to slow you down. Nope. Ruby Rose said you need to make $5 million a year to date her. For content purposes. because that's what this is for content purposes. I mean, that's, that's,
Starting point is 00:26:41 everyone can, can, can, can, can, can have their dreams and aspirations. Everyone can have their, what's the word I'm looking for? Their prerequisites on what's required to date them. So I'm not, I'm not, I'm not knocking her prerequisites. Now, it's a little steep based on the individuals that have five men, that make $5 million or more a year, that pool of one percentage you have to choose from, you know, I mean, that's cool.
Starting point is 00:27:14 That's cool, as long as you understand what comes with that. Well, at least, at least, she already told you what she's about. So she's under no pretences. I look, it's just as easy today. The rich man, it is a poor one. And if you're giving a choice, hey, she said, I'm going to take the rich one. But you know what you got, you know what,
Starting point is 00:27:30 she already told you what she's about. Yeah. All right, Mia. I like it. So let me ask you a question, Ocho. Ruby Rose. She cute, she's cute, huh? She's fine, huh?
Starting point is 00:27:46 Not $5 million, fine. You don't think so? I've seen women. I've seen women find her. I've seen women to look better. That's just me personally. Right, right, right. Okay.
Starting point is 00:27:59 Hell, I was just, hey, in Houston. I saw 10 of them. Oh, my gosh. I know three for show. Do me in favor. Don't mention you. You know what you're right. You're right.
Starting point is 00:28:09 I've been focused. I've been focused. I've been disciplined. I don't, don't do that. Don't do that. Don't do that. But yeah,
Starting point is 00:28:16 I think at some point she was dating Drusky. Drusky. Yeah. If I'm not mistaken. Yep. Drusky. I mean, obviously,
Starting point is 00:28:23 she's, she's gorgeous. So, so. She's gorgeous. So I would do that. That's what I would do. In order for, in order for, in order for,
Starting point is 00:28:29 to date you, I'm going to need you to make at least 10 million a year. Damn. Damn. how many women on earth are making that they got to do with me I'm telling you what my standard is okay
Starting point is 00:28:39 what I got to do what the fun they got to do with me hey if she can say she wants somebody that make five million why can't we? Right listen and that's the
Starting point is 00:28:56 that's the beauty of life too huh that's the beauty of life as as man as women we can have prerequisites and have certain standards and abide by them and boundaries whatever it may be
Starting point is 00:29:07 I want my man to have A, B, C, and I want my woman to have A, B, and C. And if they don't meet those standards, I'm going to keep it moving. Now, the chances of finding some of the things that people require, it's slim than none. But if you're going to shoot for the moon, or if you're going to shoot for the stars, and then fall short and land on the moon, so be it. But here's the thing, though, Ocho, you see how women can have standards? Women can say, I want somebody six foot tall. I want somebody to make X amount of dollars.
Starting point is 00:29:33 I want somebody that has a degree. I want somebody that's well-read and likes to travel. Shannon says, Shannon says, oh, he don't want a woman to pass gas around. That's why you're single. You see? Now, women just missed it on five, ten things, what they won't. That ain't want me.
Starting point is 00:29:50 But, hey, I said, I don't want a woman to pass gas around me. I want a woman, she goes to the bathroom. I don't need to know. Close the door. Oh, I can see why I'm single. Women tell you all the things they want. The first thing a man says, They'll say, well, you know what?
Starting point is 00:30:06 I want a woman that's about 5'10. I wanted to have her natural hair. I wanted to have everything natural. He's so shallow. A man, a man tell you what he wants, he's shallow. Women go out there and tell you everything. I want this, this, this, and this. Hey, hey, I don't blame you, baby.
Starting point is 00:30:26 Don't settle. Don't settle. Yeah. But a man's supposed to settle. But women never supposed to settle. Man, y'all better miss me. Yeah. Hey, it's an ongoing battle on it's the ongoing battle of the sexes and what we want, what will require.
Starting point is 00:30:42 There's a lot of delusion in it as well. It's, I like it. I like it. Whatever you believe in, whatever your standards may be, go for it. Go for it. Again, like I say, shoot, shoot for the highest, the highest you can. The chances of you, you're getting, you know, what you're actually shooting for. It's slim to none.
Starting point is 00:31:04 But hope and believe. that one day you may achieve it. But I'm saying, no, Joe, I don't care. I don't care what racial date. I don't care whatever the case may be. But it seems to be jaded for one side that a women gets to have all these prerequisite that they require from a man. But the moment a man says this, oh, he's shallow,
Starting point is 00:31:28 oh, he's this, he's that. Why can't I say I want this out of a woman? Like women say they want this from a man. That's all I'm asking. I don't care what you date. I don't care who you date. But I'm just asking, why can't men have standards like women? We're supposed to take what anything.
Starting point is 00:31:50 We're supposed to take anything that we get us and lay down. Hey, you better be glad. She out of your 57. I don't give it down if I'm 87. Yeah. You ain't fit to put no stipulations on me. Mm-hmm. Double standard.
Starting point is 00:32:05 Yeah. I said, come on, man. Depending on who you ask. That's a great topic. That's a great topic. That's a great conversation. Hey, if she, if five, if a hundred thousand or whatever the case may be, most of the time, men, men don't say, oh, she needs to make this. Okay, you treat me good. Okay, blah, blah, blah.
Starting point is 00:32:26 Then, you know, I think. Mm-hmm. And but, but also you got to think about this, too, Uncle, men that make that kind of money, men that make that kind of money, 5 million and more, they like dealing with women that don't have as much or really don't need them because they don't want to deal with women that don't need them. They want to deal with women that need them that puts them in positions of power where they're able to control what you can and can't do. So they enjoy that.
Starting point is 00:32:53 And most women, I don't think they understand. When you deal with these men that have that kind of money that are taking care of you and doing everything for you, hey, there's really no freedom, huh? Because you make one mistake, the chance of getting that again, is slim to none. You got to be careful. The reason why men, because a woman that makes that kind of money, she don't have that kind of time to devote to a man that's making that kind of money.
Starting point is 00:33:17 Yeah, anyway. So women that don't make that money, the man is expecting them to be there at their beck and call. If a woman make that, she's working just as hard as a man that's making that. Yeah. So that's why you don't see a lot of times, a lot of sometimes, not all, but I'm talking about like movie stars. You know, the saying is, you know why movie stars? Because the other know what it's like to live in that world.
Starting point is 00:33:40 Mm-hmm. But when you start seeing men, okay, you make a million, you make two men, you make five, you make ten, you make 20. Do you understand what is required of a woman to make that kind of a salary? Yeah, it's different. She ain't been to be coming home and cooking for you. She ain't been to be, no, bro. Come on, nah. It's different.
Starting point is 00:34:02 So you have to understand. okay, I want somebody that's going to, you know, be the mother of my kids. I want somebody that's going to stay home and take care of the house. Woman is making $10 million. I don't believe she's giving that up, Ocho. She don't work too hard to be putting that position. I'm just saying, I could be wrong, but it's hard. No, you're not wrong.
Starting point is 00:34:23 You're not, you're not wrong because you understand. A woman that's making $10 million a year, that's a plan that's been thought out, strategize years in advance. Her whole life. And she's not messing that up. No, that's, that's, that's, that's, that's, that wasn't a mistake. Yeah. That was not a mistake.
Starting point is 00:34:44 So it's, man, these women and they got real bold with it, but it is what it is. Yeah. Yeah, but listen, it, it eliminates great area. It eliminates great area and it eliminates games. Now, what it does do, it makes a percentage of the type of men that they can date. It shrinks the pool very, very, very, very small. I want a man that makes $5 million. Well, I know one thing.
Starting point is 00:35:07 All the men make $5 million and more. I mean, well, the chance, I mean, you got to wait to turn to come off the bench. That's about it. You ain't going to be the only one, but he does make $5 million. Mm-hmm. I mean, you know, they get the pick from the,
Starting point is 00:35:23 they get the pick from the pawn on who they want to deal with. Hey, listen, that Pacific Day. You understand what that comes with, nah. I mean, listen, sometimes women don't care as long as they got it. Hey, but it is what it is. Oh, Chow has been reported. A woman divorces her husband after $11,000 nose job and discovered her worth. It changed my life.
Starting point is 00:35:48 I have a lot of time to recover after the nose job, and it made me think, I need to really get the divorce so I can move on with my life. Listen, there's certain things that happen for women in life. they come into some money they get things done to enhance their body, their appearance and then they start getting attention from others, the type of tension
Starting point is 00:36:13 that they never got before. And most of the time it fools you when you get attention from others before, especially not only when you're married, you have somebody that actually loves you. You have somebody that loves you, you build a foundation with them, and it's different as opposed
Starting point is 00:36:29 from the lust that you get from others. that you understand, they just want to have fun. It hit different, Ocho. I hate, it's different. When you home and your girl and your girl said, hey, Ocho, you look good today. Now, you go out with your boys. Like, damn, Ocho?
Starting point is 00:36:44 I ain't know. Yeah. Yeah. Boy, you see it all, you see it all the time. Coming from a different mouth and you hear it. It will fool you every time, ma'am. It will fool you every time. It will.
Starting point is 00:36:59 And stuff like that happens. happens all the time. It happens all the time. You go from, and listen, I love that line. It happens to a lot of women all the time because they allow the outside, the outside voices to get to them because it's new. Yes. All the time. And you leave, you know, women leave relationships with guys where they have a solid foundation where things are going well. And most of the time, they have these beliefs and thinking everything's going to be pieces in the cream when it doesn't work that way. And the outside side voices have you going for the main attraction to now you're just another number on a dude roster because you think the grass is green on the other side or somewhere else.
Starting point is 00:37:39 And it happens like, there's countless stories of this happening over and over and over and over. It's ridiculous, especially this one story here or I got my known job, now I'm getting all the type of attention that I never got before and I think it might be better somewhere else. you leave, your loving husband, your solid foundation, someone where you got stability, and you think it's better elsewhere. Man, sh, man, shoot. And I'm great at giving advice. I just don't take, sometimes I don't even take my own, the damn advice.
Starting point is 00:38:18 And that's why I need my ass kick. I told my homeboy, my homeboy had this girl, man, she was amazing. Yeah. She cooked, clean. I'm talking about, yeah, this, hey,
Starting point is 00:38:30 I need $500. She might have $400. She's going to give him to $400 and go borrow the other $100 and make sure he get it. Oh, man. Man,
Starting point is 00:38:39 this dude, I said, man, don't do that. I said, you got a good girl. I say, man, she's great.
Starting point is 00:38:46 They end up getting married. I mean, she was great. Hey. Ocho, Ocho, Ocho. And this dude,
Starting point is 00:38:52 I mean, he's like, he's like, he's like, he's like, dog, it's just something about that newness.
Starting point is 00:38:59 The new one, she knew, this was new. I say, bro, your wife gonna be new to another ninja. Yeah. I said, bro, I'm telling you. Yeah. They still together? Mm-mm.
Starting point is 00:39:21 Yeah. Hey, one thing about it. One thing about it on, you never, you never know what you got until the zone. I'll be, oh, Joe. You never, listen, you never know, you never know what you got into. till it's gone. You never, you never do. I've never, you know it's funny, has I been in the game
Starting point is 00:39:42 so long, I've been playing the game so long, is I know when I'm always right. I never missed. I never missed. Never. All I'm saying, look here, if all of a sudden your lady start working out, she's working out for somebody else to see her naked. That's a, that's a beautiful thing right there. That's a beautiful thing too I'm just Not only she working out for somebody To see her naked That means he gets to take
Starting point is 00:40:19 He get to take her off the books You know when I You know when the team The team they want You know what You know we don't see you putting in the same type of Production as you're used to So we're going to have to ask you to take a pay cut
Starting point is 00:40:32 If you know I ain't taking no pay cut All right well we're going to have to release you You know what it feels like for an NFL team to move off from a player whose salary is 10 million a year or 20 million a year
Starting point is 00:40:45 and then you get that 20 or 10 million off your books you know how much freedom that is so can you imagine you having a woman who's working out all of a sudden out of the blue so another man can see her naked that means he gets to take on that responsibility and those expenses and those bills and that headache
Starting point is 00:41:02 that's a great that's a great thing I'm not sure why many times see when things in as oh my god i want to chase behind oh i love her man what are you talking about bro what what are you talking about who chases after an expense that doesn't even want to be with you anymore right i understand love and all that think about it why am i chasing after another expense or whoever it is that you in love with if things aren't working out what are you what exactly are you chasing what value is she bringing to the table to or for you.
Starting point is 00:41:37 I mean, if she got, I mean, look, it all depends what you're looking for. If you, if you found a woman, you found someone, she worked, she has a job, she's working, she's bringing stuff to the table, she's helping you, you're helping her. Okay, that's a great relationship.
Starting point is 00:41:54 Now, you find a woman, you say, babe, hey, you can continue to work, but you don't have to if you don't want to. Because I need you, to do X, Y, and Z and V, here. Right. Z. And in the process, I'm going to make sure everything that you normally would have to cover, I'll cover it. Right. Now, me.
Starting point is 00:42:17 Okay. Boom. I understand that. She's like, well, nah, I kind of want my own thing because I don't want to be under control because if you control the money, a lot of time, he who controls the money. Controls me every time. Every time. It's just like the job. The job feel that they're going to teach you a certain type of way because they control the money.
Starting point is 00:42:38 Now, if you need the money, you're going to have to. So a lot of times, she's like, I don't want to be in this situation because I don't want you to have that level of control. Okay, fine. Yeah. Fine. But it's just like, I just hate these conversations like because it's so one-sided. Yeah, it is. Because I get, let's just say for the sake of argument, Ocho, I have a kid with somebody.
Starting point is 00:43:03 Yeah. Now, okay. she's loving me, she's cooking for me, she's providing, she's doing what a woman could do. Okay, I'm doing for her, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah. Right. But what happens, she leave? See, the state will require me to do all the things
Starting point is 00:43:18 that I was doing before. They'll require me. She don't have to do nothing. She don't have to give me no more hoo-ha. She don't have to see me no more. The state has required me to take care of do what I need to do. You see how one side of that is? why would the state require her to do something for me?
Starting point is 00:43:37 Mm-hmm. Hey. But you know what, at this juncture of my life, I'm only going to be with who I want to be with. I don't care. I'm going to be with who I want to be. Matter of fact, listen, speaking of junctures, speaking of junctures in life, obviously,
Starting point is 00:43:53 at my big age or your big age, I'm in search of a life partner. Always have been. And when one thing doesn't work out, then you keep on moving. And you stay in search of that life partner. I'm very intentional in all that I do. And I say it all the time, especially those that I meet, you know. And I am looking for a wife and family dynamic.
Starting point is 00:44:26 Now, if I try it one time and it doesn't work out, you don't stop. And that just goes with anything in life, you know. That goes with anything in life. And I like the fact that all the time, especially we had these conversations where a lot where a lot of people can relate. Yeah, for sure. Sometimes things work out. Sometimes things don't. But I hate people that give up on their dreams or aspirations or whatever it may be.
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Starting point is 00:49:36 podcast. I am rapper board podcast. Stop me. Hey, see, that's perfect. You see, this is why I'm trying to get you a partner, and that? It's perfect right there.
Starting point is 00:49:53 Them nights you can't sleep at night, boom. Hey, honey, I go to the poem for you. Hey, honey, let me write you a love letter. Hold on. Recite some Shakespeare to your girl or something. Hold on, hold on. I thought, I don't say you got somebody
Starting point is 00:50:06 saying he'd been married in two years. Yeah, yeah. You heard that joke. You're only for show. Yeah. Hey, just because y'all don't see me, I'm listening and watching now. Okay, okay. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:50:17 Hey, Joe, you married, huh? No. Close enough. I ain't married. Close enough. Okay. Come and long. Hold on.
Starting point is 00:50:24 Stay with me. He just ain't got no paperwork. Hey, on. Listen, this is what we can do. We could all make this official and have a trifecta wedding. Hold on. Yeah, we can have a trifecta wedding. Hey, I'm official.
Starting point is 00:50:35 I just ain't got no whistle. You know what I'm saying? You know what I'm saying? You know what? I'm good. Yeah, we back. We back. We're probably watching.
Starting point is 00:50:48 Yeah. Okay, okay. All right. Yeah. I'm picking up what you're putting down. I got you. Yeah, you see what I'm saying? Joe, Joe, Joe, it's tired of come on.
Starting point is 00:50:58 Oh, Joe, it's tired to come home. Yeah, yeah. Come on. It's about that time. Yeah, yeah. We're not getting no younger. No, I ain't. Hey, Joe, I tried to explain the uncle.
Starting point is 00:51:10 I say the older we get, the older we get, the chances of getting what we want, it becomes slim. Because what's available out there right now, don't nobody else won't because that's why it's available. Ooh. You hear me? Hey, you get a certain age, you know.
Starting point is 00:51:30 Hey, you get what you can, not what you want to. Hey, the pickings are slim now. Hey, it's a tough time to be dating now, boy. Hey, what? Hey, boy. I'm, I waved my white flag long time ago. I remember, hey, we got back to school clothes. It was like a week before school, everything
Starting point is 00:51:48 nothing been picked over. Right. Hey, it wasn't early. We got, hey, we get the last two weeks. Everything that's been picked over. Everybody else had the jeans on, to try the shirt on, to have their feet in the shoe. That's what they came up.
Starting point is 00:52:05 Because I remember when I was coming up, Joe, people be trying the shoes on just their bare foot. Yeah. You had had no socks. You know, they just started. You laughing, Ocho, I ain't lying. They, they, you people have their brother like, damn. Hey, let me, let me get them with what he just had.
Starting point is 00:52:23 But that was, that was back in the day. So, but I'm going to, it's time to come on in, Ocho. It's time to come on home. Oh, man. It just, it is what it is. And I, listen, I'm, I'm, I'm at fault too. I'm at fault too. Yeah, for sure.
Starting point is 00:52:39 As I've gotten older, I've tried, I struck out, huh? I've tried. I've struck out. But, you know, I'm back at the plate. That's the one thing I love about baseball is at some point, as much as you strike out, you can get your opportunity
Starting point is 00:52:54 to be at the plate again. And right now, I'm about to hit a home run. Yeah, yeah. You know my problem with, L'Ocho. Call me, uh, uh,
Starting point is 00:53:05 Giroh, Joey O'Tani. No, not O'Tani. What's, uh, Aaron Judge? No, play for, uh, the Blue Jays. Oh, Blad Guerrero Jr. I'm Guerrero Jr.
Starting point is 00:53:16 Yes, sir. Yes, sir. Yeah, that is. Hey, the thing was, you know my problem with, Ocho? Talk to me. Looking for perfection. Ooh, take your time. It ain't out.
Starting point is 00:53:27 One, boy, she's the perfect height. Uh-huh. She was the perfect complexion. Come on that. She had the perfect bill. She had the perfect. Uh-huh. Bro, you not go find all that.
Starting point is 00:53:38 Uh-uh. In one, you just, listen. I've come to the realization, I've got to find a woman that have enough of the qualities that I'm looking for that I'm willing to overlook the ones that she don't have. It took me 57 years to realize that there is no such thing as perfection, although we constantly try to achieve it. Talk to them. So now I'm like, okay, that's enough. Right. You're enough.
Starting point is 00:54:08 You're tall enough. You're fine enough. the complexion is enough. Everything is enough. Come on now. And it took me a while to realize that because I'm like, I'm trying to be perfect. Hell, I want the perfect person.
Starting point is 00:54:22 Yeah, yeah, yeah. That's why I ate the way I ate. That's why I trained because I was trying to be perfect. Shannon, and my sister just said, Shannon, you realize you're not going to be perfect, right? You realize you flawed. You are flawed. I don't know why.
Starting point is 00:54:36 We all are. I mean, I'm like, Listen, I would love to be a therapist. I would love to be a counselor for my sisters because they have expectations. And I love, I love people having expectations and having wants and needs and want requirements for people that they date to meet those qualifications. You hear me? What's y'all laughing at?
Starting point is 00:55:02 I'm listening, bro. Yeah, but here's the thing, no, Ocho. Yeah, but, but stay with me a quick on. I want to hear this one. What are the chances? If you ask a woman, Joe, if you ask a woman, what is she looking for the man? You hear me? And she'll run down the list of all the qualities and all the requirements that she wants.
Starting point is 00:55:22 And it's almost, it's a builder bear. It's not real. The expectations aren't realistic. So everyone is looking for this, not imaginary, but you'll meet a guy that will meet half of what you want. And, oh, you know, no, he ain't. no good. No, he work, he work at Sears. All he work at Macy's, I can't do nothing with that. Oh, Joe. Yeah. The easy thing you'll do is to get with a person. Getting with is the easy part. Staying is what's hard. Man, basketball came easy to Joe. Football
Starting point is 00:56:00 came easy to you and I. But guess what we had to do? We had to practice. We had to study. We had to lift weights. We had to train. All that, goes towards work. Working. You see? Everybody gets to the relationship and then that's it. You've got to work every single day because the person that you met
Starting point is 00:56:23 yesterday is not the person the day. The person that you go bed, the bed with the night, going to wake up. And so now, instead of finding a reason to break up, can I find a reason to stay? And the words of earth, winning, five, can I find a reason? Just one, can I find one
Starting point is 00:56:39 reason to stay? the reason that we love game been played all of our reason was a come on now take your time right so now it took me a while because i i'm oh cho man hey shh damn damn nah shan because at the end of the day the way she looked today she ain't look like that 10 years from now hey hey from 20 years from now and that and that that that that booty that's up on the shoulders yeah yeah yeah you're It's going to be down by knees, and you're going to need to pick it up. Yeah. And walk with her, it walked behind on the care.
Starting point is 00:57:16 Because you know what if she's walking in a silhouette that you can see. Right. Now when she gets about 55, 60, you're going to be dragging in the sand on the beach. Oh, you're going to know what you went. Hey, what my girl? Okay. I see a trail. You know what I'm saying?
Starting point is 00:57:30 And you got to accept that, Ocho. Yeah, because I really, you know what? I walked by the mirror the other day and I was like, damn. I ain't the same guy no more, Ocho. Hold on, you lost it? Oh, Cho, I'm telling you, I used to, I used to, hey, I used to compete in a boot from 25 feet away. That's how you're on the world, oh, Cho. Hey, I ain't that no more.
Starting point is 00:58:01 What happened? Hey, you say you ain't got it like you used to. I ain't got it like I used to. I said, well, damn. I'm like, I, you know, I'm not terrible. Right. But I'm looking at how I once was. Right.
Starting point is 00:58:17 And so if I were, if women were to judge me by what I used to be, as opposed to what I currently am, right. I don't get nobody. I know I used to say, I walked around at 2.35 with 5% body fat. Okay. 3%, 4% body fat for years. Right. And so I was like, you know what?
Starting point is 00:58:39 I need to give people grace. Like I'm asking people to give me grace. Hey. Hold on, what you're saying? You fat now? No, he's not fat. Oh, no, no stretch of the imagination. Okay, okay.
Starting point is 00:58:49 Hey, hey, I'm saying his bounce back ain't like it used to be. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. His bounce back ain't, yeah, yeah, oh, Joe. Yeah, yeah, oh, Joe. Damn. I'm just saying the baby arm ain't what it used to be. That's all I'm saying, Ocho, that's all. That's it.
Starting point is 00:59:04 We ain't going no further. 26. 26. I'm gonna be back. Check, stay with me till 26. My bad, my bad fettos. My bad fero. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:59:17 But you just, you have to come to the realization, man, and I've come to the realization that, hey, it is what it is. Hey, I ain't 27. I ain't 37. Hey, just got to keep kicking. Hey. Well, hey.
Starting point is 00:59:35 I just put one foot in front of the other and just keep, just keep going forward. Well, we're back. We all the way back. No, no, no, no. We're all the way back. But are you better believe 26, it's going to be all the cracking. All right.
Starting point is 00:59:50 That's what I'm talking about. I'm going to be part of some of that cool stuff y'all got going. Yeah, you know, the reason why y'all fell in love with Uncdoncho Nightcap, 26. 26. Yeah, two my months. Y'all, y'all know. I got these jokes.
Starting point is 01:00:06 Hey, I ain't in the joke telling business like, like, quick. But I got some. But man, this, man, you know, when you, I tell you know what I'm saying, you know, you're driving, you just spend a lot of time. You know, I've had a lot of time to think because, you know, my grandmother says, boy, she said, you either walking into the storm, you end the storm, or you're walking out of it.
Starting point is 01:00:29 You say somebody, everybody going through something, son. Yeah. Come on. Come on, boy. And when you end that storm, when you're in the eye of the storm, the eye of the storm drop down in New Orleans, Katrina. That was the eye. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:00:46 Boy, you don't think, you don't know if it's ever, ever. Like, when is this going to be over? How much longer? Man, hello. Where do I go? When does it end? What the, yeah.
Starting point is 01:00:59 But I, the eye to a storm could be eye over. Oh, Joe. I read a quote many, many years ago. It said a lesson that's not learned in blood is destined to be repeated. Mm-hmm. I had a conversation with my brother probably about two months ago.
Starting point is 01:01:21 And he called me. And I said, well, you know, he obviously knew what's going on because I called him and told him or heard of time. And then something else came out. Then something else came out. Then something else came out. Then ESPN came out. He said, Shannon, there's a lesson in here somewhere. But you to be going through what you're going through, there is a lesson.
Starting point is 01:01:44 it's on you to figure it out. Yeah. I said, man, I sure wish I. He said, you know what? He said, no, that's not the plan. He said that if you knew what it was, you would circumbit the lesson. Right.
Starting point is 01:02:01 He said, no, but you'll figure it out. Yeah. He said, you'll figure it out. And people, when y'all see me, I don't want y'all to have a wrong impression. But I'm just very guarded now. I'm very, very guarded. I was always on alert, but I'm on high alert because I really don't know who I can really trust.
Starting point is 01:02:31 Because what I've seen over the last six months, there are very few people that you can actually trust. Yeah. Come on that. Yeah. Very, very, very few. And there are people that said some things. And it's gotten back to me. But I was like, wow.
Starting point is 01:02:46 Yeah. And you remember we had this conversation, Ocho, about being down and then people feel like they can pile on. Yeah. But I'm just very, I'm very matter of fact. I'm very, hey, how you doing? It's nice to meet you.
Starting point is 01:03:00 I'm going about, I'm on my way. Yeah. I'm on my way because I don't, I don't want people. Yeah, I had a conversation and stuff because if you stay too long, Ocho, the more people, and this is what I had to learn. And somebody told me this. They say, Shannon, the more people you become involved with, the more stories there is to be told.
Starting point is 01:03:20 Circle got to be crazy small. The more people you're involved with, Shanna, the more stories there are to be told. I didn't know what was going to happen. I appreciate you, Ocho, because you're like, hey, when you text me, Uncle, I'm with you. Whatever we got to go through, we're going through it. You ain't by yourself.
Starting point is 01:03:53 To the wheels fall the fuck off. Shit, you gave me the opportunity. There are so many people, Ocho and Joe. Where I'm going? that used to call, that used to text, yeah, I ain't heard from him since this happened. Mm. But that's all right, though.
Starting point is 01:04:12 That's all right, though. Man, please. Yeah, keep it moving, baby. Maybe this is what I don't wish this on anybody. But what it did do is it really showed me who's really, really there. Right. there are a lot of people on the peripheral when things were going well
Starting point is 01:04:35 when we're at the apex and getting invited to everything. Yeah. I'm talking about ain't called. Ain't called. And I'm talking about we were talking once a month, twice a month. Right.
Starting point is 01:04:57 Are we going to come back? But I see. Yeah. And you know what? I think about too, Uncle Joe, you had to think about you know, uncle, what you had to go through. You know, I've been in the eye of that storm too now. Mm-hmm.
Starting point is 01:05:10 Big time in front of the world. Yeah. So I had to take my legs. I had to take my way. And I had a, hey, Joe, what them call, stop, ain't heard to nobody. My circle was always small.
Starting point is 01:05:24 So my same, my same circle was right there, you know, to lift me up, but I already knew I often sit for a minute. Yeah. For a long time, Joe, I had a, it was, quiet up for maybe six years. Yeah. Well, you know how long six years is? Hell yeah.
Starting point is 01:05:40 Nothing coming. No, nothing. You just, I'm, and then here we go. You give me an opportunity, you know, while everything is backgoing motion and going, is going good. Yeah. And then you think I had a nerd to jump ship just because you're going through
Starting point is 01:05:58 what I had to go through years ago. How the fuck I'm going? I know it. I know what it's like. Yeah. And I'm looking at the chat. Everybody say Stephen A. No, I will say this. Stephen A has called me and been there every step of the way. I will say that. I will say Stephen A have reached out. He's called, asked me anything. Juvie. He's like, man, Juvie just wanted to say, hey, that's his boy. He just wanted to say, hey, you good. Hey, you good? I'm good. I'm good. I'm good.
Starting point is 01:06:33 Look, I know a lot of people say a lot of things about Stephen A. All I can attest to is the way Stephen A is with Shannon. And he's been great because when I went through what I was going through at Fox, he was there. When I was going through what is this, he was calling anything I can do. What can I do? I won't get into private conversations that we have because that's between he and I. Right. But there are a lot of other people, a lot.
Starting point is 01:06:59 Well, I shouldn't say a lot, a lot of the parts of land. There were a few, quite a few. But you know what? I was, I've been down before. This public lashing and ridicule and scorn and humiliation. Been there. Take your lungs. But it took me a while to realize, like, hold on.
Starting point is 01:07:28 You call the people that you're closest to, brother, mom, sister, kids, best friend, bucket burns. You explain to them what? They say, bro, we good. Once I got to that, Ocho, you and I talked about this. Man, look, it is what it is. I'm gonna be all right.
Starting point is 01:07:54 Hey, I ain't even wanna hear. We good. Sunshine follows rain. What time, what's how the next show? Hey, Joe, that's all I want to know. What time is the next show? That is exactly what he said. He did.
Starting point is 01:08:15 Y'all know confidence. It's something else, bro. When you gained some confidence, bro, it changed your whole game. Hey. You'd be a totally different player. Well, completely. Hey, Uncle, and Joe,
Starting point is 01:08:26 when you got confidence, but you walk different. Hello. You hear me? It's like when you get a haircut. For some reason, when you get a haircut, I don't know what it is about getting a haircut and having that little lineup,
Starting point is 01:08:36 a guy having that little shave. Yeah, yeah. You just feel different. There's a certain confidence. When you get that in a start. sports? Yeah. And you kind of like
Starting point is 01:08:44 you get it figured out. When I figured it out, Joe, like when it came to football when I got about in year two like in the middle of the season, I say, well, God damn. They say the game is supposed to move fast, but for some reason
Starting point is 01:08:56 everything seemed to be moving slow. Slows down, yep. Man, I say, you know what? I finally arrived. Yeah. You see guys. He know, he knows he'll bench warmer and he's going to be and talk to the baddest thing
Starting point is 01:09:07 in the party like it ain't nothing. All up in the face. bro I ain't even that confident Yeah Yeah And shaw she can't say nothing But no
Starting point is 01:09:18 Yeah hello But I ain't really trying to hear that tonight Yeah Right Yeah Hey hey Some guys I need this to be a yes party
Starting point is 01:09:25 Yeah Hey hey Some guys got Hey A boy that's different type of confidence She can't She can only say Yeah
Starting point is 01:09:30 Yeah That's it Oh yeah Yeah's it Yeah That's me there I don't care Who it is boy
Starting point is 01:09:37 Yeah My league In my league below my, I mean, it don't matter. You know, I'm gonna come up. I'm gonna start off with a joke. You gonna say something. Oh, I'm Joe, I don't care.
Starting point is 01:09:47 Hey, Joe, I don't even care. Hold on, hold on, hold on, Ocho. In high school, when I ain't had no money, I don't care who it is. Ocho. I'm gonna be funny. Ocho, I'm saying, let's say you go, let's say you're in a restaurant and she eating,
Starting point is 01:09:57 she got four or five old girls. Oh, take you time. You're gonna go up to the table and go on point it out. I'm going up to the whole table. Excuse me. You get the baddest one. You're the baddest brick in the pile. Man, listen, excuse me, excuse me, miss, excuse me, hey, how you doing?
Starting point is 01:10:11 I don't mean to interrupt, but what's your name? Yeah. Okay, listen, I don't want to interrupt and I don't want to take too much of your time because you're with your girls, right? You free for dinner in two weeks? And boom, she's going to laugh because the first thing, who the hell asked to go to dinner in two weeks? Yeah.
Starting point is 01:10:25 I'm asking for two weeks because the two weeks part of what's going to get your attention because why would you not ask to take me to dinner, you know? Yeah, yeah, yeah. What's the two weeks for? The two weeks for? Oh, the two weeks just give enough time and get comfortable. so you get to know me. Boom.
Starting point is 01:10:39 So boom. She locked in right there off the rip. Hey, Joe. See, Ocho that guy. Ocho. See that word right there? Yeah.
Starting point is 01:10:47 Go tell her your horrible were to holl out. No, I got Ocho. I got Ocho. Hey, hey. Hey. That's me. Hey.
Starting point is 01:10:55 It's not what you say. It's how you say it. Yeah. Yeah. Delivery is important. It can, you know, most of the time, women, they alarm when strangers
Starting point is 01:11:04 approach them, right? Yeah. You got to put them at ease. as fast as possible. Yeah. And you got the head to give a gab, Joe. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:11:11 It's all in delivery. It's all in delivery. Hey, hey, hey, and then, and then after you do all that and her friends vouch for you, ooh, it's a rap. Oh, girl, look, girl. And, yeah, now you,
Starting point is 01:11:21 now you're talking to group chat. Yeah. Hey, yeah. Yeah. But, yeah, but you get in a homeboy like Ocho, because he, Ocho, yeah. Oh, great.
Starting point is 01:11:30 Yeah. Oh, no, I know some cats. Oh, I don't, pop, pop, pop. Hey, what's your name? Yeah. You see my partner. over there. You know what Joe? I'm like this here, Joe. I'm over that like in here. Yeah, yeah. He tried to even, you know, he wants to know if he can get your number.
Starting point is 01:11:45 I tell him to come with his ass for it and sell. Hey. I'm telling you, Joe. Hey, Joe, I got so much in my little toolbox, right? I got so much in my toolbox because I talk a lot. Yeah. And I obviously, I'm not shy. I'm very, I don't want to say confident, but I approach anybody. Yeah. Any setting, it doesn't matter where we at. Man, we're at church, we at a funeral.
Starting point is 01:12:12 We, well, I don't go to the club. But just any outing, if I see something, I like, oh, man, Joe, I'm ready. Hey, hey, hey, Joe, and raw. What? Fushin? No. Come on. Hey, and that you told me, say, man, hey, hey, man, it's too hot for calling.
Starting point is 01:12:33 I said, oh, no. Oh, no. Come on. But you made it too hard for you? Hey, Joe, he made that up, man. Hey, he made that up. Hey, but listen, hold on, hey, let me take... Man, man.
Starting point is 01:12:50 But, man, man, made it too hard for an alcohol show. Come on, man. Hey, let me tell you another one I used to do, Uncle Joe. You know, early in my career, in my younger days, right? Another one, if it was somebody that was real fine. I mean, I'm talking about real fine. You know, she was a girl, oh, by herself. I act like I'm on my phone, right?
Starting point is 01:13:08 Yeah. And I'd be, you know, I purposely walk like, damn, my phone ain't working. And I walk up to them and be like, listen, I'm trying to make an important call to my mama and my grandma, you know, but my phone just died. Can I use your phone real quick? Yeah. Please, I don't mean to be rude. Can I use your phone real quick? And call my mama.
Starting point is 01:13:26 So that was to eliminate any chance of rejection. Oh, okay. I don't really, they, and they, because of the delivery and the way I say it and being very sincere. And they, oh, they give me the phone. Okay, no problem. But I call my phone. Yeah. So I called my phone.
Starting point is 01:13:41 Boom. Boom. We leave. I give my phone back. My first text message, boom. While I'm walking away, thank you. I appreciate that. I just didn't want to deal with no rejection, but thank you for giving me your number.
Starting point is 01:13:52 And we on from there. I ain't had no problem since. Oh, that was cute. I ain't never had nobody do that to me. I know. Wait till I get a holy. You ain't never had nobody do that either. Oh, yeah.
Starting point is 01:14:02 Yeah, Joe. Damn. Hey, Joe, I was hell with hell when I was well, Joe. I had a lot of tricks. Hey, look, I don't got tricks. over there too. He got all of them dogs. She come over there. She's playing. Oh, hey, Tedd. He's a little long time. Yeah. Yeah. He put that La Portier in and it's a rap. Da, da, da, da, da, no, no, okay, okay, okay, okay. No, no, no, no. Ain't no drinking. Ain't no drinking.
Starting point is 01:14:25 No, no drinking. No, no, no. Ain't got it, no, no, don't got it easy, too. Uncle, you got a convertible? You got any kind of convertible car? No, no. I was going to say, hey, if you got a convertible and you got little dogs, you just put a little dog in the, in the Pass him to see? Yeah. And let him look out the window. Oh, you good. I know.
Starting point is 01:14:42 I don't want that type of tension, man. No, no, no, no, no, no, no, no. Where you taking the dog? Yeah, Joe. Hey, Joe, hey, boy, Joe, I, boy, Joe, I got a mouthpiece on me, Joe. You, hey, hey, I got homeboy like that, Ocho. We'd be out at the spot in the club. They'll walk in somebody else section and go get a girl like, damn.
Starting point is 01:15:03 Yeah. Maybe we're going to be here fighting. Come on, man. You know how, hey, you know how they go. Would you say, Joe, they're on somebody else section? Man, I got some of my dudes who will go in another dude section and pull a girl out of there. And I'm like, come on, man, we're going to be fighting in him, bro.
Starting point is 01:15:20 Yeah. Hey, on the first couple of dates, no drinking. Wait, what? No, you can't drink around me. Time out, time out, time out, time out. Come on, we ain't, we're going to do that. Oh, you think she's going to get too loose? I don't, hey, I need you to be in your right mind.
Starting point is 01:15:39 I need you, like, remember. everything. Right. What time I picked you up, where we went, hey, what's my phone number? That's not fair. Most of the time, especially on the first date, a woman needs to be able to have some type of alcohol to be able to relax. Because they're nervous.
Starting point is 01:15:57 And definitely back when the day when you actually picked up a girl from the, you know, picked up from a home or stuff like that, that ain't happened a long time. Now, you know, after a couple of times, you know you Uberin, hey, you get in your car, you get in your car, and you go your separate way, but, nah, man. I don't know, you tripping, man, you got to, you got to,
Starting point is 01:16:18 even if somebody, I go to the club, and the young lady had been drinking, I got to move on. Damn. Nope. I can't do with no belligerent drunk, but you go ahead, and you got to take a shot just to get into the section here.
Starting point is 01:16:33 Yeah, yeah, yeah. Oh, no, no, hell no, we're going to, we're in a party. We've had a good time. Yeah. Hey, we're going to be adults about this. Who is the most recognizable face of the group? Oh, yeah.
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