Nightcap - Best of Unc, Ocho and Iso Joe Part 1: Iso Joe CALLS OUT Melo + Ocho thinks he’s stronger than UNC!

Episode Date: July 10, 2025

Shannon Sharpe, Chad “Ochocinco” Johnson, and Joe Johnson bring the best moments on Nightcap—from Iso Joe shutting down Michael Beasley’s challenge to Ocho claiming he’s stronger than Unc, plus the trending debate: Joe Johnson vs. Carmelo Anthony one-on-one. 0:00 - Who needs another title more? LeBron or Steph? 15:22 - Iso Joe vs Michael Beasley 1-on-1 25:50 - Iso Joe vs Carmelo Anthony 1-on-1 28:22 - KD traded to Rockets reaction   (Timestamps may vary based on advertisements.) #Volume #ClubSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

This is an iHeart podcast. Who do you think Joe needs another title more, Steph or Bron? I'll say Bron. I say Bron. Yeah, man. Yeah, I say Bron, even though they want one, even though he's going one already in LA in the bubble. I think him get another one. I mean, he already, to a lot of people, he's their goat.

Man, he's gonna have all the records when he's done, man. For him to capitalize and have another championship in LA. At the age of 40. I think it'll, what? I think it'll, look, look what he's doing at 40, man. This is crazy. So, we kind of get on him at times when he's not playing great, but you still have to realize that man at 40, man, this is crazy. So, you know, we kind of get on him, you know, at times when he's not playing great,

but you still have to realize that man, 40 years old, and he's still out there putting up elite. Now he go into season averaging 24, eight and eight at the age of 40. Hey, a guy that's 25, averaging 24, eight and eight, that's a max contract guy, the guy's gonna get 350, and he's 40. Hello, hello. Hello.

Hey, Joe, you think you think they hold you think they hold LeBron at a different standard, obviously, because of who he is, what he's been able to do, the longevity, the consistency to be in year 22 to plan the way he's playing at 40. To me, I mean, if you ask me, I think maybe Steph would be more suited to be one to maybe need another ring as opposed to LeBron the way I see it, you know, despite my lack there of exquisite knowledge of basketball. It seems like his legacy is already submitted, whether he wins another one or not. You talking about Steph?

No, I'm talking about LeBron. No, I think because LeB Braun has been great for so long. He's been in the game since he was 18, and man, 40 years old. And he's played at a crazy level since he was 18, elite level, you know what I mean? So this is new to all of us. Every point that goes down for him is in the history books.

We looking at the leading score in NBA history. So I know we take, you know, we don't take that in, in, in, in, you know, you can't take that for granted for what he's doing and, you know, having longevity and still playing at this high level. So, you know, to some, to some aspect, yeah, I want to see him win another one. Joe, what I tell him.

Oh, mate. Go ahead, Hojo. Hey, hold on, hold on. Hey, Joe, I got to show you the ball LeBron gave me. He signed a 50k point ball for me. Let me see that joint. Oh, Ocho, you gotta cut it out. You gotta chill. You gotta chill.

You gotta... Oh, Joe, you gotta chill. You gotta chill. Hey, hey, you gotta chill, my boy. You gotta... Hey, oh, you can't keep letting that man get away with this type of act, man. That man is on his trip. Hey, you gotta chill.

Hey, Joe, what I tell people all the time, when you're a great player, and I'm sure you got this, they don't compare you to other players, they compare you to your younger self. As you started to get older, Joe, they say, man, I remember the 25 year old Joe, he would have got that shot off. He'd have been able to get to the rim.

He'd have been able to draw that foul. People looking at LeBron, they don't put forward zero. All they say, I remember LeBron with the rolls up and he'd have dunked it on him. I remember LeBron would have got all the way to the rim. They're not looking at the age. All they do is compare you to a younger version of yourself. Yeah, and obviously he don't have the athleticism

that he once had, but he's so cerebral and smart at this stage and age of his game that it's even more impressive now to watch him than it is when he was 22 or 23. Yeah, so I enjoy it. I enjoy how his game has evolved and how he's kept up with the Joneses. Because when I came into the game, Oncanoccio,

guys went pump faking and sidestepping and none of that. They weren't doing none of that. So, you know, he's learned all that as he's continued to that as he's continued to play and he's added and implemented so many different things in his game. The three ball, because he wasn't a heavy three ball shooter when he got into the league either.

Now he has the three ball. That's what really has helped him because what he's like, he's top 10 in three point shots. We don't look over 11,000 rebounds, over 10,000 assists. We know the 40 plus thousand points, but something that we never thought that we would see that LeBron James will be top 10 in three points. And so the evolution, guys that can evolve,

the greatest trick to survival is adaptability. He had to be able to adapt to the game as it evolved. And you see some of the other guys couldn't adapt to the game. And even though they were pretty good players, you know, I was listening to Melo talk. Melo said, man, I need to get to the mid range. Well, they no longer wanted the mid range

because they don't value the mid range. We need you to be a spot up three-point shooter. We need you to be a catching three, three-point shooter. Yeah, I think that's what's made him tough to guard because if he's making that jump shot. Oh, it's over. Mm-hmm. It's gonna be a good night for him tonight.

So I think that's the key. Like if he sees that first one go in, you know, it's gonna be a long night for the defense. So, you know, he had you on your heels because if he's making it, then you got to shake his hand. And, you know, he's had unbelievable nights from the three, you know, from these past few years, especially this year. It's time for Rough Draft.

Oh, OK, OK, OK, OK, OK. I didn't beat you in Rough draft the last three times. First of all, every time it comes time to I'm going last. You know, if you don't pick first, I'm going third on this one. So by the time I go, everything gonna be scrapped over. Dang it, dang it. It just. All right, Joe. What we doing? Okay, rough draft. We will take turns. You're first, Ocho's second, I'm last.

And what we're doing, we're talking about cookout must haves. Things that if you're having a cookout, you got to have. Joe, no repeats. Joe, you up first. Cook out ribs. All right. Ocho, Joe got ribs. Ocho, what you got?

Chicken. Okay. I'm going hamburgers. All right, Joe, you up again. Bake beans. Okay, Ocho. Pay the salad. Nah. Okay, Ocho? Pay the salad. What we have, whatever we put on it, whatever we put on it.

I ain't gonna eat none of them, but we gonna have them glizzies. I ain't gonna eat none of them, but we gonna have them glizzies, Joe. It's a cookout. Who's on? It's on you. But we gonna have them glazes, Joe. At a cookout. Who's on? It's on you. Sodas. Okay. What kind of sodas? Man, I don't drink sodas,

but you know people gonna have them sodas there. All right, Ocho, you up. Oh man. Somebody, you said baked beans already, huh? Yeah. You said potato salad. Damn, that's a good one. Oh man.

I don't have to treat you like the draft. You on the clock, you on past you. Dessert. I don't know what kind of dessert, but we, some kind of dessert. Yeah, you took out a whole thing. You know what, I'm gonna go something. How you gonna have a cookout and you ain't got no ice?

Oh, well true. I ain't even mentioned, well, ice is automatic on BDL. Duh, duh, duh, duh, duh, duh, ain't no automatic. So, well, guess what? Ribs are automatic, chicken is automatic, hamburger, the hot dogs are automatic since you said automatic. Joe, you up next.

What was the last thing, what was you saying? Is there any, you know, cake? Hehehehehehe. I'm gonna say, had a cookout, watermelon. That's a good one. That's a good one. Damn, Joe. Yeah, man, look, I can't wait for that watermelon to come on around.

Who had a cookout around here, man? I got one, I got one, all y'all missing. Let me know when you're ready. What is it? Music, the DJ. Okay. Got that one. Potato chips. Well, hell, hey, Dixie plates and cups.

It was your turn, it's your turn. Look at him, there you go. You might as well go ahead and steal it, Joe. No, no, no, no, no, don't do that. Now you said out of turn, you can't go out of turn. Nubs and plays. Come on, man, how you going? Come on, Joe.

You gotta wait your turn, or you talking out of turn. Damn. Okay. Slow down, top boat. Okay, okay, let me know when you're ready. Can I go? I got something for for you since we had to cook out dominoes and playing cards. Okay. Well, I don't know what cookouts y'all going to. Who could bring

the alcohol? Who bring it out? So you you you done been to a cookout with no alcohol? Hell no. Hey, look here, y'all let me go last. I got the hottest one. Nah. I got the hottest one right here. Mine, I'm killing y'all. Guess what?

Your soda's hot. Hey, don't come here. Don't come here with no damn. Hey, don't come in. Hey, hey, man. Can you can I borrow somebody? No, hell no. I ain't gone. Hey, and guess what? I don't need to drink out no damn cup, Ocho. Guess what? I drank right out my cold can. Hold on. I I I literally might have y'all beat if you think about it.

No! Hamburgers, hot dogs, ice, potato chips, alcohol? Oh, man. Well, I got chicken. I got potato salad. What you gonna eat the potato salad? You had a potato salad in your hand? Man, y'all.

What you gonna put it on? Only one person can pick cups and plate it. I'll just say it, I'll just say it. Cause guess what? I can get my hamburgers, I can just, hey, put it right there. Baby boy, I don't need glitters, but if I did, get put the glitters in my hand.

Put it right here, Hocho. We finished, is it over yet? Yes, it's over. I was finna say, cause ain't nobody say grill, so I'm trying to figure out how we had to be cooking the food. Hey, hey, nobody brought no grill. Hey, we out again. Hey, guess what?

I guess I'll be eating potato chips and drinking alcohol. Hey, we definitely got a hood party. Hey, nobody got no grill. Damn. Go on now. Yeah, I got y'all beat. That was, that was, that was- Rims, baked beans, man, them cold ass, them cold ass ribs, you know.

Rims and baked beans alone. You get that, it's a wrap. You good. Oh, Joe, I mean,, hamburger's a hot dog. Come on, it ain't gonna be too good. But you gotta realize Joe, y'all act like we throwing a party for some five and 10 year olds. I remember the time, there was a lot of cook out, ain't no more for it, have no ribs. You know, ribs, we just got out and got some money and people start slapping ribs on the grill.

I got y'all beat simply because I got chicken and potato salad, right? Then I had the dessert. Not only do I have the chicken and potato salad. What dessert, Ocho, what dessert you having at the cookout? Ice cream. What you talking about? Peach cobbler.

Well, so somebody could have said banana pudding there. Hold on, hold on. Them baked beans with that turkey up in there. You mean to say, man, y'all ain't messing with that. Them ripped, please. And I got the Domino's in the space car. And plus I got the music. Joe took out soda.

Yeah. Y'all definitely not beat mine. Hey, I don't know what you, you got cups, what you drinking in the cup? I'm not even drinking no cups. I'm drinking a Czech soda, grape. Hey, don't say, Joe got the soda. You ain't got no soda.

Now he said cups. He said cups and soda. Now you can't do cups and soda now. No, no, he got sodas with three and he got Dixie cups and plates cause you spoke out of turn. Y'all cheating. You're cheating.

Y'all cheating. It wasn't your turn. I got excited. Yeah, and you gave Joe one and you could have had it. You might have could have won with that one. I already already won Listen DJ music

Frankie Beverly and Mays before I let go the first song we gonna play Man, you ain't got nothing to drink. You ain't got no soda. You ain't got no look at least I get you look I get liquor it up. You ain't got no foot. You ain't been pleased. You ain't messed man Ain't got no, you ain't man please. You ain't man. Ain't got no ice. You, I don't even know what you drinking. Chicken, potato salad. So wait, so let me ask you a question.

Where you gonna put your chicken at? I cut most people bring their chicken, they got to have it on ice. You ain't got to, so your chicken already spoiled before you got there. It's cooked, it's cooked. Who, you cook it before you get to the cookout? They bring it, everybody got something,

everybody bring it, they own separate thing. Nah, Ocho, the only thing that you cook before is the potato salad and the baked beans. Man, ain't nobody bring it, nobody cook it. That's the whole purpose of having a cookout. You don't bring no food, you don't bring no burgers and hot dogs and ribs and chicken already cooked. Man, listen, and y'all know them baked beans

gonna be slapping. I'm telling you, with that turkey meat in there, man. With them ribs. Nah, we want bacon. Well, ain't nothing gonna be cooked because ain't nobody picked the bread. Everybody don't eat pork, man. Well, first of all, ain't nobody eat nothing

because ain't nobody got no grill. Uh, well, first of all, ain't nobody eat nothing cause ain't nobody got no grill. So, so we just gonna be, hey, man, look here. We got a nice little cookout too. We got ribs, baked beans, sodas, watermelons. We got the cups. We got chicken, potato salad, dessert.

We got music, got dominoes playing cards. We got hamburgers, glizzies, ice, potato chips and alcohol. Man, who the hell forgot the glizzies, ice, potato chips, and alcohol. Man, who the hell forgot the grill? Man, I thought you was going to break it. Joe, damn! Ocho! It ain't missing, A.

It ain't missing but a couple things, boy. A grill! That's what we missing. That's what we missing. The most important thing. Check this out. Stat and Mad Max want to see Michael Beasley and Iso Joe next.

Take a listen to this, Joe. The only person I would like to see him play is Joe. I look at you. Yeah, yeah, yeah. I want to see him go against Iso. Yeah, Iso Joe, I like Iso Joe, but got that, I just think D is a little, Joe got side, Joe got side on him too.

Joe 6'9", 2'30", Joe a monster. Yeah, that'll be tough, that'll be a good one. Joe, what you thinkin', Joe? I think it'll be a great matchup. I'll tell y'all somethin', man, I said- Hey, come on, Joe, nah, don't give me no pieces, man. Talk that shit, man.

Would you listen, man? Just listen. I sat down and talked to them guys with Next Chapter before they picked Lance Stevenson and Arkan Ocho. I'ma be honest with you. Like, man, when we sat down and talked, don't diminish my career, bro, and what I've done.

Like, we sat down, you talking about, oh man, you and Beezley had great NBA careers. Man, I got 20,000 points, only 52 guys in the world with 20,000 points, talk that. Give and time NBA All-Star, I wouldn't know one hit wonder, two hit wonder. Like I did my thing, man, don't diminish what I've done. You know, I ain't saying what Beezley done,

I'm just saying, don't come to me with this piss poor ass offer and think I'm just gonna jump, I'm just gonna jump board now. If y'all wanna make this thing legit and we doing it, however you say, boxing style, then come at me correct, man. But I'll be, I'll be, I'll be, what it gonna take, what it take,

what 250,000, Joe, that'll get you. I don't know, we got, we got, we got, we got, we got, we got, we got, we got, we got, we got, we got, we got, we got, we got, we got, we got, we got, we got, we got, we got, we got, we got, we got, we got, we got, we got, we got, we got, we got, we got, we got, we got, we got, we got, we got, we got, we got, we got, we got, I don't know. We got. Nah, Joe ain't doing it. But did you just hear? 20,000 points. We gonna have to. Seven time NBA All-Star. We need 500,000 in the battle.

We gonna have to negotiate this. You gonna have to come at me right, man. If you don't come at me right, I ain't the guy that go go back and forth with you. I'm just gonna be like, oh, okay, cool. And I'm gonna keep it moving. You know what I mean? Right.

Yeah, so. Hey, Joe said I ain't got no habit now. So y'all think I need money cause I got a habit. I don't got one. Man, listen. Hold on, hold on. Hold, I don't got one. Man, listen. Hold on, hold on. Hold on, Joe, Joe and Unc, listen.

Unc, you should have known, they should have known not to play with Joe when he was on the show talking about he got property. Nah, man, he don't let him go. On my property. That let Joe- He gotta cut it out, Joe. He gotta cut it out.

He gotta chill. What's wrong with it? You got to think. I'm just saying, I'm just being honest. Listen, Joe, you won't say it, so I'll say it for you. Man, don't play at me like that. Don't play at my time. Listen, listen, I love competing, bro.

I seen what him and Lance did and what they went through. That was a long, drawn out process before the game itself. You know what I mean? Like, bro, my time is valuable, homie. Come and meet right. Yeah, go ahead, make the money right. Give them sponsors and go ahead and say, hey, one on one, Beasley and I, so Joe.

Yeah, make it right, man. We can make it happen. And Joe said he ain't Leigh Stevenson. Hello. Hey, I don't know what y'all thinking. Yeah, hey, talk to yo, hey, Joe. Joe said I'm not him. No, Joe said I'm him.

Hey, look, go- Capital H period, capital I period,. Joe say I'm not him. I'm a pro. No, Joe say I'm him. Hey look, go. Capital H period, capital I period, capital M. I'm him. Go play with somebody else. Go play with somebody else, man. That's all I'm saying. Yeah. Hey, put a name on it so I can say a name for you.

Who? So I can let them know not to play with us. Nah, nah, when you game, they know who they are. We ain't gotta put no name on them. Oh, okay. Hey, hey, yeah, yeah, yeah, homie, you know who you are. You know what I'm talking about? Yo, he about that, y'all know Jocelyn.

Come on now. He say, how y'all, hold on. Y'all do know what I so mean, right? Y'all do know how I got that name, right? So y'all know what I do, one on one, right? Hey, because I'm chill, laid back, man. Don't take that shit for granted, man. Oh, you heard it!

Hey, hey, Joe, they think that shit sweet. Joe, this shit ain't for you. I already know, you back, man. Don't take that shit for granted, man. Oh, you heard it! Hey, hey, Joe, they think that shit sweet. Joe, this shit ain't for you. I already know it. You already know it. Joe say he too big of a cat to be played with like a kitten. Hello, hello. He big, man, come on now. Hey.

Man, Joe, you know what? You got to cover me correct, man. You steady talking about all, man, we gotta take care of these guys on the undercard. What the hell they got to do with me? Ain't got nothing to do with me. The undercard, I'm the card. I don't know what's under, but I'm the card.

Yeah. Hey man, it gotta come correct, Uncle Ocho. That's all I'm saying. They gonna make it happen, Joe. I gotta feel they gonna make it happen. I'm sure they will. And then it will happen. Yeah.

Yeah. It will happen. I'ma be there. Make the money right. I'ma be there. Make it will happen. It will happen. Make the money right. Make the money right. Make the money right. I'm gonna be the talker for you. I'm gonna be the talker for you. You know, you just focus on playing

and I do all the talking to Beasley because he ain't fit to out talk me. I got y'all ready, right? Yeah, let's get to it. We ready. So, hey, y'all ready, right? Yeah. Let's get to it. We ready. So, hey, y'all wanna make this happen? If y'all wanna come and get the third member a nightcap, it's gonna cost y'all.

That's all I'm saying, man. Yeah. Yeah. And we gonna have to be in the tennis. And Ojo and I gonna have to be in the tennis. We gonna have to be screaming it on nightcap. So we have to be live, too. Oh, oh, oh, I'm gonna be there.

I'm gonna be there, I'm talking trash, first court. I'm gonna be in there with my Iso Joe wear on. Yeah. Huh? I'm gonna be on the sideline of my Yokel suit. We gonna have that thing turned up to the max. Shh, man. Hey Joe, hey, I gotta tell you about the story today, man. Hey Joe.

What I had on my Yokel suit. I'll make you miss beside these, Joe. Hey, you a two-ex agent, huh? I might need to be a three-ex. Right? Hey, I told you, I told you, hey. Hey, I told you, it's all about. These two-ex, hey, Joe, I'ma have to wear a jock strap.

Because if I bought a reformer and bend over, you gon' have your tights on up under there. I know you gon' have your thighs out. It's summer time. Hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, oh, Joe, man, if I go outside and fall to the ground, I'ma grow old because A-Card's gon' be in the song. I told you, I told you they supposed to be like that.

They cut short like that. They supposed to be cut short. Hold on, how you got them cut short in the front and long in the back? It's got just a little tan, just a little tan. Hey, that's a new style. Damn. Look, look. Wait, hey, hey, oh Joe,

I'm about to have to put mine on backwards then. I need the front hanging down a little further. Hey, hey, listen, hey, hey, I had my stuff on today though, right Joe? And I was down, I was down over in an adventure area. Adventure, you know, I was with my people. You know, I was with my people. You know, I was with my people. We were going to grab a little bite or whatnot.

You know, and you know, group of girls, my girl, you know, we boom, she done shut off, shut off into the store. And I'm sitting there, I'm on the phone. I'm on the phone. And you know, three girls come up and they all got on the Lululemon. I like, oh, but I like what you got on.

You know, you so handsome. Like like so I look behind me to see a Setup oh, yeah I'm like, I really appreciate it. Thank you. And this star this is from a good friend of mine by the name of you know Joe Johnson, you know daddy down there Lenny got a yoga studio. This is That's all I'll tell that make sure you watch the show tonight and I'm um, he'll he'll be He will be able to do a better job of addressing where you can get it from because this is this is a care package I told her I'm never really on the end of receiving things But I just happen to get us in the mail and I put it on hey, man. I appreciate y'all

I know they probably probably watching right Hey man, I appreciate y'all. I know they probably watching right now. I appreciate y'all. All they gotta do is go to the iso yoga.com and you can definitely place your orders on there. Unc you need a big size. Yeah, yeah. Nah, let him wear that. Wait a minute.

Hey Unc, it's about yoga. It ain't about being big. It's about being comfortable within yourself. Yeah, without your dog's head Unc, I don't wanna grow no oak trees, man. But you... Hey, my shorts fit perfect. You don't wear your shorts that high now. Come on now.

What you want me to wear? It's supposed to come above it's supposed to be, it's supposed to come above your knees, uh? It's yoga. Let me see. These yoga shorts. Let me see you, let me see you, let me see you. Hey, Joe, my choice is perfect.

Look, I already know they're gonna fit you right on the money. You see what I'm saying? Hey, you see, you see all the muscles? You got your little thighs out and all that, baby. Hey, hey, Joe, hey, hey, wait, one thing about it, boy. I'm chiseled up, boy. I'm chiseled up, man, like head to toe.

I got muscle in my toes. Hey, what's the use of it? Yo, man, come on, man. Come on, man. Hey, yo. Hey, I'm been perfect. I mean, can I get something at least to my knee? God dang.

Oh, no, no. They don't come to me. They supposed to be above the knee, baby. Hey, he, hey, these yoga shorts, he want to look like the Michigan basketball team from back in the day. Look, look at him, look at him. That joke got me half my thigh.

I definitely got to have some tights on. Yeah, you got to have your tights on up under there. Look at this. Oh man, you good. You put the shirt on, it's going to drape over there and look good. He got me out there like Robin and Isaiah Thomas, a bad boy Pistons. Hey, hey Joe, he want them five,

he want them five, five yoga shorts. We in 2025 baby. Okay. We got to tighten up a little bit. Oh man, that's funny. Hell nah. Boy y'all something else. Hey, hey, what is this goddamn material? Good boy. Oh yeah, man, you know how to take nah. What's up, man? I like it. Hey, what is goddamn material? Good, boy.

Oh yeah, man. You know how to take care of y'all, man. Hey, look. Hey, where you got this from? Come on now. Come on. Hey, I know it's probably Italian. We gotta talk about it off camera with y'all. Don't worry about that. Yeah, I know. Hey, I know you be on your rich shit

cause you the only nigga I know got problems. Yeah, you gotta chill, my boy. You gotta chill. Cause you the only nigga I know got pockets. I ain't never been in a room like that. You gotta chill my boy. You gotta chill. You gotta chill. We pinned the link in the chat where you get the ISO joke here at. Man, hey look, I appreciate y'all. Did he trust to have a back pocket?

You needed to use this back pocket material for some lint. Hello, responding to Michael Beasley's challenge to play one-on-one. I'm not losing one-on-one game, bro. I've never lost a one-on-one game. I'm not saying I'm going out there playing. What I'm saying, I got ridiculed for doing this ish

at the highest level for being a one-on-one Ian. Joe, our DMs are flooded with people telling me to ask you if you'd beat Melo one-on-one. Man, I think I'll beat anybody. Okay, Ocho, I think I'll beat anybody. Here's why I tell y'all, I think the one-on-one game is very different versus playing in a five-on-five setting,

you have isolation. Yeah. You know, one-on-one at the top. That's how you got the name, Iso Joe. Hey man, I've been doing this for a long time now. I've been doing this for a long time. That's how you got, do they not understand what I so mean? But you know, you know, as athletes, man,

everybody feel like, you know, they can't be beat. But I tell you what, I tell y'all what's gonna happen. I think all these matchups, I do think they gonna happen. I think they may happen under, you know, different conditions, meaning, you know, we gonna have to get it together, you know, get the sponsors right, you know, but they definitely probably more than likely

gonna happen for sure. Because I know the fans wanna see it. Look, anywhere I go, since we brought this topic up or since Lance and Beasley has played, this is all the talk has been about. So I know the people, I know the chat wanna see it, I know everybody wanna see it, so I'm sure it's gonna happen.

Yeah. I think that's dope too. A different dynamic, you know, for those that aren't playing in a structured environment, five, be five anymore and have competition, a one-on-one competition. And it's something that can continue to, this can be big. That's what I'm saying, Ocho. That's all I'm saying. It can become very, very big. And somebody sitting on the meal ticket, somebody sitting on the golden goose or golden egg, whatever you want to call it for NBA players.

And this can also falter into other sports too. What? When you're talking about one-on-one sitting. Yeah, one-on-one sitting. Listen, it could be football, it could be basketball. I'm not sure if there's anything else outside of that that would be interesting to us culturally that people would want to see,

but football and then basketball would be really, really dope. I know everybody wants to see these basketball matchups, man, and they gonna, it'll be fun. It'll be interesting as well. It's something I'm very intrigued about. So it's gonna happen. We gonna do it for the culture.

We're going to do it for the fans for sure. You got to make sense first now. We ain't just getting out there just to do that. Hello. There you go. Hey. No, hell no. You got to make, if you make dollars, it makes sense. Here we go.

Here we go. Hey. Kevin Durant has been traded to the Rockets. The Suns traded KD to the Rockets with Jalen Green, Dylan Brooks, the number 10 pick in the 2025 draft, five second round picks. KD was at Fanatics Fest when someone captured the moment

when KD and his agent Rich Climbing found out. Let's take a look at this video guys. So I'm not surprised by this. There was only a handful of teams that had maybe some players in the pit, the compensation. The sons messed this up. Look, I like Matt Ishma. I've met him several times.

He's a great guy, but he gave up too much to get Kevin Durant and he was never going to reciprocate that because he's two years older than when you got it. So now you're not gonna be able, what you gave up to get him, you're not gonna be able to get that back. We know you want him gone, he knows you want him gone, and everybody else knows you want him gone.

And so Ocho plus Miami, they turned down Miami's package because I told you they didn't have enough to get, they didn't have anything. Hymen, Hawkeyes, hobbit, high-smell. What? What? Hey, I have a question though. Some of you just said, some of you just said, right?

We talk about Kevin Durant. One of the prolific scorers of all time. You said Ishma did too much to get him. Gave up too much to get him, yes. But because the player he is, that's why he did what he had to do to actually get a player that magnitude. Now, the reason you got him was you hope

what you put and invested into him, you hope it turned out and came to fruition. It just didn't. And normally when you buy a car, when you buy a car off the car lot, right? And as soon as you drive it off, what does it do? It depreciate. Well, so you understand when you get a player

that magnitude is great as he is, as great as he is in his older now, you still not gonna get back what you bought for him. Yeah, but I think the thing is, that when you look at what you look at, you got KD and book, did you really need Bradley Beal? Did you really need Bradley Beal?

Or do I need to secure my, do I need to get depth for my bench? So now I take trade more draft capital and give up more players. So now they don't have a first round pick until 2031. You do realize it's 2025, right? Well, and that's why I think it's a good trade for Phoenix though.

If you're talking about Phoenix is gonna be able to do some of these things and possibly get a pick and all this, I get Kevin Durant to me goes there, I think instantly to me, he makes them more viable. When I think about having a score with them young bulls he got playing with them over there. I don't, I make that trade all day. I love Kevin Durant.

I like him better in Houston than I did in off that I love. I like him better. I like him better in Houston that I did in then in Phoenix. I agree. You're not. Because you got Shungoon. You got Shungoon. You got Armand Thompson. You re-signed Van Fleet.

You were able to keep Jabari Smith Jr. So now, and plus the problem that Houston had, they had the second best record in the West, 52 wins, but they didn't have a guy that you can give the ball to late in the ball game and go get you a bucket. You now have that. Yeah. How long, how long, how long though, Joe? I know, I know you, I know Joe,

it's good to be about 36, 37. He 37, he 37. You're telling me you're gonna let, and I love KD, but you're putting him in a position where you're going to have him carry your team late to go get buckets? I think he's naturally gonna do that late in games. I love the fact that he's with a bunch of young cats,

like some grimy young cats who gonna work hard, play hard. And he ain't gonna have to, I don't think he gonna have to do a lot of heavy lifting guys. They got some guys who can play over there. You know what I mean? They got some guys who gonna come into their own. Obviously they gonna play through Shungoon. And like you said, I'm glad they kept Jabari Smith,

another tall, long, long guy who can shoot the ball, who can post up, who can play multiple positions. And led by Van Fleek, I think they have a great team over there. And I think KD can put them over the hump. I don't think it's going to be rigorous on them as far as, you know, him trying to carry that team. I think collectively, they're going to do a great job now.

Naturally, he's going to be the cream of the crop when it comes to scoring a basketball, cause he does it so well and it comes so easy to him. I mean, and plus you got three guys, 16 or better. You got 6' And plus you got three guys, six, 10 or better. You got 611. You got 611 KD. You got 611 Shingu. You got

610 Jabari Parker. You got Armand Thompson at six, seven. You got Van Fleet that can run the I like this. I like I like like I said, I like KD here more than I liked him in Phoenix because all you had was offense. They didn't have rebounding. They didn't have rim protecting. They didn't have great depth. Think about what you gave up to get

him. You gave up your best defender in Mikael Bridges. You gave up a young Cam Johnson. You gave up what? Three first round draft picks. That's an awful lot to give up for a guy. And now you go trade for Bradley Beal, which weakens you even more as far as draft compensation and depth for your bench. These teams that played in the NBA finals, what did they have? Depth, depth. Now they might not be as good as the big three for Phoenix,

but Phoenix had, once you got Book and KD out of the game, now what? Hey look, my question is, what is the Spencers gonna look like with Devon Booker, Jalen Green and Bradley Beal? I mean, them three are pretty much the same guy. You know what I mean? I said that when they got, I said that when they got Bill.

Beal and Booker the same guy. Watch out, Joe. One of the things could happen, and I've been hearing this, that there might be a possibility of Boston making moves. What's gonna happen? Are you gonna keep Porzingis here? You have a big hole over there in Phoenix right now.

Can you go out and get one of those guys for Boston and make and get that pick or wanna give that pick up for maybe Porzingis to put him in that position? You know, Joe, that once you get traded to a team, doesn't necessarily mean you need to stop trading, your bags don't need to be unpacked. You need to keep your bag back because you might be moving on in the new NBA.

Yeah. Right, yeah. Rocket fans don't seem to be happy with the KD trade. One tweeted, it happened. Today was my last day as a rocket fan I wish the worst and the absolute worst on this franchise Trading a 23 year old superstar for a wash 40 year old and generally the worst thing you could ever do I hope Katie retires next season and that the franchise completely crumbles

Damn, KD KD also spoke to K Adams today and said, Phoenix wanted him gone. Let's take a listen to what KD had to say. Last one for you. Lot of heartbroken sons fans right now. What would you like to say? That's not true. No, literally heartbroken sons fan right over there.

I just felt like, yeah, that mean they wanted me to go. So it's like, I'm glad we both, you know, they got mean they wanted me to go so it's like glad we both you know They got what they wanted. Yeah, what I wanted so we can move on and good luck to them going forward I always remember my time there, but we own something else Hey I don't see nothing wrong with what he said because it wasn't it wasn't him who came to them asking and looking for a trade He found out they were trying to trade him. So as athletes, we know when you,

it's basically saying, you don't want us, okay, it's somebody out there who will take me. It's somebody out there who do want me. And he was able to give them a few teams that he wanted to go play with. So give the sons credit for even trading them to Houston, Texas, to Texas. Cause that was one of the stops that he wanted to go.

Well, he knew the sons, excuse me, the Rockets, the Spurs, no, yeah, the Rockets, the Spurs, Brooklyn were really the only the handful of team that had the draft capital to go get it. So he had no choice. I mean, he he couldn't go to Miami because Miami don't have anything to offer for him. Yeah. Your two best players are untouchable. Tyler Hero and Bam.

And you see the package. Jaime, Harkance Jr., Havage, Hive Smith. They like absolutely not. Absolutely not. Dude, what did what did we think? Because they had to make that move. How bad they were offensively and deeply and the only person other than book

that you're gonna get anything for on that team was KD. So in his case, they had to make that move. They had to go out and say, dude, you can go on and here's the thing that me and Joe love about this. Joe, where'd they go? Oh, I know, to a damn state that they ain't got no damn state income tax. How about that? How about that?

There was a back and forth. Boogie Cousins a few days ago regarding the report, the Suns had multiple fist fights in the locker room. Kevin Durant says, I have to contest this 94 footer. This some bull jive to throw on us. Yeah, yeah, yeah, we were trashed this year, ha ha ha. But we never got close to this, never. The Phoenix Sun reportedly had multiple fifth fights

in the locker room per Boogie Cousins. The Boogie says, the source was one of your teammates, killer, I ain't referencing you, referring to you. Save that ish for the other homies Hey anytime hey, uh, hey, uh, joe bread anytime something like that get out, you know It always it always come from from one of the players It only come from locker room Always that's the only that's the only time I hate my stuff. I hate my stuff like that happen too, man

You know, I hate when dude I hope when dudes be chatty-patty when something goes on the locker room is supposed to stay right there Supposed to stay right there guys be pillow talk And okay if this fight man everybody fight who don't fight it happens I can train to camp did y'all fight in training camp? Yep, you know, I mean it happens whatever all the time. Whatever happened in the locker room, it stayed in the locker room. Whatever happened to you, if you didn't cap, if that didn't cap you, it didn't get you.

No it doesn't, no it doesn't, Shannon. It doesn't stay in the locker room. No, I'm saying, I wasn't gonna tell. I know you didn't, but here's what happened. As you're saying right now, it's pillow talk. You go tell your wife something. You go tell your girlfriend something. You know how those stories go.

You tell her, she tells somebody else, and then it's all, it's going in the woods. So a lot of times what we have in the NBA are wives and girlfriends, and now it's moms who have a lot of shit going on because of, they have the, they have a lot of power now. Joe, it's not like back in the day, back in the day, girlfriends were quiet. of shit going on because of they have a lot of power now. It's not like back in the day,

back in the day girlfriends were quiet. They used to nothing about no damn basketball. They talked about everything else, but not about basketball. Now they think they're playing the damn game. I'm like, really? You don't play? I didn't see you on the other side saying you're doing that thing.

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