Nightcap - Deebo & Joe - Chiefs DOMINATE Commanders + Browns snubbing Shedeur, Steelers sign MVS!

Episode Date: October 28, 2025

Join NFL Legends James "Deebo" Harrison and Joe Haden as they react to Monday Night Football where Patrick Mahomes and the Kansas City Chiefs defeated the Washington Commanders. Later, they react to Cleveland Browns head coach Kevin Stekanski saying the team isn't considering starting Shedeur Sanders, the Pittsburgh Steelers signing Marquez Valdes-Scantling, and much more news from Week 8 of the 2025 NFL season! Timeline:00:00 - Intro01:00 - Chiefs beat Commanders17:20 - Steelers in trouble?26:27 - Kevin Stefasnki not focused on Shedeur Sanders38:49 - Jerry Jones Misses Micah Parsons42:45 - Steelers sign Marquez Valdes-Scantling48:20 - Best Horror Movies & Halloween Candy1:00:00 - Deebo & Joe Defensive Player of Week (Timestamps may vary based on advertisements.) #Club #Nightcap See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

This is an I-Heart podcast. Welcome back to Debo and Joe. I'm your host, James Debo Harrison. I'm here with my co-host, Joe Hayden. Please make sure you guys like and subscribe. You don't want to miss nothing. How you're doing today? I'm doing good, Debo.

I'm feeling better after the new little intro. They threw a little kick on it. I'm rocking with it. Yeah, they threw a little soft. talking on that thing, man. Let's call ahead, get straight to, get straight to business, man. The Chiefs went on here and put that thing, put that thing on the commanders, man. I ain't going to lie.

The first quarter I'm looking at as soon as Washington came out, you know, they was driving the ball down the field, brus, and being ahead of the change, getting good, you know, manageable third downs. And then they get in the red zone and they throw an intersection, right? But the jump was crazy because it just was a ricochet off of his face mask. It wasn't nobody's fault, Marriota didn't do anything bad. It just slipped right through his hands, bopped off a Maddibo face mask. So it was just unfortunate play, but, like, it's a pick in the red zone.

Oh, no question about it. So the Chiefs get the ball. And, you know, Washington, they go on here and get to my homes. I think it was on that second down. They end up making up room for it. They go forward on fourth, make it. And then they fumbled the ball and actually recovered. Right.

Like, they luck is crazy. But Latimore went on head and made a great play, dude. You know how many times guys don't make that play, though? That was the inside fade, bro. He had body to body, you know what I'm saying? He was able to look back and then undercut it and make the play keep his feet in bounds. I'm happy for him because he had a tough week last week. But that was a good play for Latimore.

For sure. Washington get the ball back. I think it was the third down. They got like 24 on that. The next one, I believe they got about 17. and then they ended up getting sacked on the third down and they go for it on fourth down and then, you know, turn the ball over on down.

Bro, this is, I got a question about this part too, Debo. When they went forward on that fourth down and they were short, did you remember when they pulled out like the, my wife, they was like, all right, now this is time for the AI virtual measurement. I was like, hold up, what's going on? Five inches.

Five inches short. He's short. I'm like, yeah, that was crazy. My wife was like this. What did they just say? I'm like, yeah, this is going to be the virtual measurement. I ain't never really seen it too much either. But, like, yeah, they showed it was crazy.

Yeah, that was wild. That was wild. She used to get the rock back. And they ended up getting like a loss on that, believe the first down it was. They ended up losing maybe four or five on that first down. But they were still able to make it up on the third down. And then the next third down, Kelsey, he tipped it. He didn't really fully catch it.

another another interception again you said yeah not his fault but it's still it's still counts against you know Bwaz got that yeah oh no question about it Washington ends up getting the ball back they go for it again on a fourth down turn it over on downs they was they was going hard fourth down bro they kept getting across the 40 and they were getting nothing nope I don't know why you picked up the field goal kick if you wasn't go I mean, I understand. They're like, man, I don't think Philgo's going to beat Kansas City. I understand it.

But, like, that's just a standing up part for the defense on Kansas City getting stops. Coach plan to win. You know what I'm saying? Like, but damn, you ain't get nothing? That's not a good, that's not a good feeling if you're a defense. Yeah, and that's when Kansas City came back out. I think it was nine plays, what, 72 yards? Touchdown.

We finally got our first touchdown. You know, it's seven-oh. He was getting Kelsey involved. Kelsey got them two catches for 42 yards on that drive. Yeah, that's what he started waking up. Yeah, dude, did you see that run when Washington got the ball back with 32 fired off on that running back? Oh, my gosh.

Oh, my goodness. He was hitting. Two sweet fight on Jesse right there were. Like, oh, yeah, he was saying. Then the next play, they lead a tight end wide over for 22 yards. they end up getting a third and five. I think they popped off 18, 20 on that one. Then they get sacked down.

They get sacked on that second down. But third down, dude, they get, what is it? It was 32 again. Yeah, it was 32 again that had the running back. So he's rushing up in there. You know how you're supposed to add to the blitz? So he adds to the blitz and loses the running back. Running back catch off and get 18 on the blitz.

for the first down. The one thing that Coach Leboe told us when we would rush, we would have that. He's like, you got a hug to your man. Make sure, no, you rush through him. So that way you have him. And if he tries to get out, now you feel all that going on

and you just. Yeah, for sure. Because if you run through your man, if he don't block you, then you go, you're going with him. That's yours. That's your word. No, he got caught up in the fray

with like the line. No, no, for sure. I'm saying the way that you're saying to do it is the right way to do it. You got to get up on them. Oh, yeah. Yeah. Did you see Marietta, man?

Like, what was he doing, bro? He tried to jump over a little dude, almost lost his life on that play. I don't know. I don't know. I think he thought he was going for his legs. He jumped up. He, that was one of them little, that was one of them George Pickers. You are a quarterback, bro.

Ain't nobody going for your legs? They're trying to hit you up top, especially when you're running. They know you're not going to kick on me. Yeah, I ain't about to let you have me on ESPN on the highlight. But he came back, though. He made a fire throw over the game. Man, that's like, top. To tap.

He couldn't have put it nowhere. Yes, he couldn't have put it nowhere else. Originally, I think they called it up. Incompletion because he was out of bounds. No, Terry, Terry, that was a great. Terry put them toe. He had to, that was a good-ass toe-tap. Oh, yeah.

Now we 7-7. I'm like, yo, this guy can't go be a real fight all the way through the end. Half-time is 7-7. But then, dude, the start of the second half. Because it was the first five drives of that game was turnovers. It was three picks. and two turnovers on downs, you know what I'm saying? So then when the second half, like you said, Kansas City really stopped, they woke up.

Oh, yeah, for sure, they woke up. I mean, like, as soon as they got the ballback, I think they got an unnecessary roughness on the incoication. Yes, the defenseless dude, when he did, it's obviously dropped. You know how these referees is playing. And then you still, he saw it. He saw it, and he still cracked them. He still gave him a little something.

You know what I'm saying? Like, that's old school. You can't, hey, back in the day, you could have got it with the head. That's fine. You didn't even play in that area, but you didn't play in that area, buddy. Like, that's not what they love. That was just normal. That's just normal.

That's just letting you know, I'm still here. Like, you're coming across and you're going to get hit. So you might as well try to catch it regardless. But in this day and age, that's going to be a flag. That's a, that's a dumb play as a defender because it's like, come on. You know you saw it. You know you saw it. You still, you know you, that when those plays is like, that's not a bang bang.

You know what I'm saying? At least try and pull up. Yeah, give him some chest or something. I ain't trying to do it, you know what I'm saying? Then later on, Mahomes, he hit Kelsey for 38. Catch and run. That was one of them little twice, too. He was blocking, blocking, blocking, and then ended up sneaking out.

He was like, yeah. He was like, he ain't through the ball. Yeah, he must be in trouble here. Drop it to him. And then on the third down, they got the offsetting penalties, gave the Chiefs another chance. Again, he hit three. You've got a touchdown in 7 to 14.

Washington comes back out there. And then the damn kick returner. He muffed the joint spins out of pounds on the one. Like, what is, yes. I just didn't feel like he was giving enough effort to get to it. I don't know. I'm losing my mind if I do that one. And then they end up having to punt the ball after I think it was two in completion, second

This is the first punt of the game. They first punted again. Yeah. So to get the Chiefs back the ball, the Chiefs proceeded to go another 8. Yeah, 75 yards. I think it was like five plays that was like 10 yards or more. No, I take it back. It was four plays that was 10 yards or more.

One was nine, you know. And then the second down, Rice fumbled the rock. We covered it. They covered it, dude. They just, they said then that, like, I think, uh, Kansas City had eight fumbles. And recovered every. He hasn't lost one of them. Yeah, how you ain't lost one of them?

They got the rabbit's foot. No. Oh, no question. They got the rabbit's foot. Then Mahomes, he goes on here. His Kelsey dude for his hundred touchdown, dude. I think he's one of only four tight ends that have hit that mark. And I think the rest of them, you know, you know where they said.

Oh, yeah. They got the jackets. The gold jacket. He just passed. He just passed Priest's Holmes for the all-time leading touchdown catcher. I mean, all-time leading touchdown score in Kansas City history, or 84. Priest's Holmes had 83. I think Gonzalez had about 78, something like that.

So now he's an all-time leading touchdown score in Kansas City. That's what's up, though. Congratulations. Shout out Travis, man. Congratulations. No question, no question. Washington, they get back out there. I think third down, they ended up getting like a 20-yard completion or so.

And then the next, no. Second and third down They had like a negative pass And then he got sacked out of field goal range Out of field goal range Yes, that's where he got a smack in the ground He was he was hot Dude I thought he was about to tear his arm or something

He was smiling up The elbow was bending like crazy And then you don't gave the Chiefs back to the ball Yep, yep 13 plays brough 94 yards A little over seven minutes And in top of that dude

They had two penalties They had a holding penalty and a personal foul where a dude tossed the ball. And hit, and hit, do you think, but from the other angle, you saw the referee right there too. So he definitely, he definitely was talking like, it wasn't, I don't think he was literally throwing it upside of the man's head. From the other angle, it looked crazy. And Troy, he kept saying, like, what is he doing? Like, why are you? Yeah, why would you do that?

So that's when he went to Andy Reid, I could literally see him saying, like, I was trying to tip it to the ref and hit him up. the head like I was tossing it to the ref and from the other angle I could see it but at first it it looked like buddy tackled him because he held his legs too you know how when you're trying to you know how we do sometimes like if somebody catch it on you you mad a little bit you just hold his leg a little bit longer a little bit longer a little longer you get a second and a half more come on you mad a little bit so he definitely did that so but I do think when he tossed the ball it was to the ref but it could be it looked a little fried I think just me playing you know I'm a little devil's advocate.

I think he was trying to toss it to the ref as far as, like, it making it look like it. But he's seen dude there. Maybe I could get away with a little tap on his head. You know what I'm saying? And then because if you really didn't mean to do that, like, as soon as you throw it and you see it hit, oh, my bad, he just went to reach for the ball.

He ain't, he ain't give him my bad or nothing. He just went to the ball. No, no, for sure, for sure, for sure. No, I got you. Yeah, so, yeah, it's seven to 28 now. Washington, you know, they get the ball back. They end up punting on a four-down. I think right then and there, when you punt it in,

I think you don't really just, you know, it's a thousand percent. It's really over where Kansas City, they get the ball back. I think they burn off four minutes or so. They end up on. Dude, they almost lost their running back, dude, on that second and nine. You see dude get hitting high his knee folded and back up. Oh, yes. Yeah, yeah, yeah, but check-up.

Yes, but Chuck, I'm like, yo, that did not look good. They saw him on the, well, they showed him on the sideline, you know, he was doing the work. He was real excited after he got through, so I'm assuming that, you know. Oh, no, no, he still was good because he's, he stayed out there. He came back out. Yeah. Oh, he did? Okay, I didn't see him.

I didn't see him come back out. Yeah. And then, you know, to add a little insult to injury, Washington go back out there and, you know, the special teams, linebacker, he gone ahead, pick him one off. to top it off. And that's, you know. That's about it, dude. That's the way the cookie goes. Yeah, I think, like, you know, just really, like you said,

when it came down to it, the second half, bro, like, they just, it just went off the rails. Like the first half, you know, you're never going to hold Mahomes to an 18, 15, only 89 yards, two interceptions, you know. And like second half, bro, I think he went like 17 or 19 for 210, three tugs no interceptions second half they possessed the ball for over i think 21 minutes almost 22 minutes something like that you know Washington only had the ball what eight and a half minutes in the second half you know so that puts your defense in the position where like yo they went on

head and tightened up they you know they made plays in situational ball you know third downs getting pressure touring why because you're ahead now you can you can afford to put you know pin your ears back you know, and they're not letting them stay ahead of the sticks, you know, pressure in the quarterback, because now you have a lead, you know, you can afford to do that, you know, and on top of it, you got Patrick from my own. Brother, yes. We're not panicking. You ain't stressing nothing.

You're not stressing the thing. And the crazy part was me at the beginning of the game when the chiefs did put them in compromised positions, when they did turn the ball over several times. They had the ball, the first three possessions on their plus side. out of the field, and they gave up zero points. You know what I'm saying? Eventually, like, that's the point where you think the Kansas City's turning over the ball commanders, this is when you need to score.

This is when you have your chance to really get your short fields, get some points on the board, because eventually Patchman-Holmes is not going to continue to turn the ball over. They're going to end up getting right, like, in the second half that they did. But I look at the chief's defense, those dudes, there's nobody. I mean, hopefully it was versus the commanders, but you do. who you have to execute versus who you play against. You know what I'm saying? So I saw nobody running

Scott free. I saw no blown the time. I saw dudes hitting. I saw dudes rapping, making tackles, running to the ball. You know what I'm saying? So I think the Kansas City Chiefs defense really just dominated the game, the whole game, just maintaining and making sure that those first three drives, you

get nothing, you get zero, them going forward on fourth down. We're getting these stops. Like, dudes are making plays. Yeah, huge. They didn't convert one fourth time. They didn't convert. Any of them, bro. So those are big, big plays. Those are turnovers. You know what I'm saying?

Just like interceptions. When you don't get it on fourth down, your team gets the ball right there, being able to move, like, really close, like, in great field position. So then on the chief side of the ball, too, people getting healthy. Like, Patrick Mahomes, being able to throw it to Kelsey, being able to throw it to Worthy, being able to get, what's my man, Bryce back, you know what I'm saying, Juju Schuster, Kareem Hunt, Pacheco, it's just a lot of guys. And then Patrick Mahomes, running to pass.

the best I've ever seen of like quarterbacks. Eyes down the field, he's being able to create time. He's not, he doesn't want to go and bypass the line of scrimmage. He wants to create, create plays down the field. And if they're playing zone, Patrick McHone is going to create time and his teammates, they're able to feel, they know where to sit. They know how to find it. If you're playing zone and you're not getting pressure on him, it's over with.

You got to be able to play tight man to man and get after them. But it's going to be tough to beat them. But I just like the way that the Chiefs played that game. on the offensive side of the ball, not performing at the very beginning, but eventually knowing it's going to happen. Patchman home is going to create time, get it to all the receivers.

So it was really good for now. Oh, yeah, man. Plus, you're playing at home, you know what I'm saying? The crowd noise for all them boys, dude, that's wild, man. Like, I, dude, it's so loud there, dude, you can't even hear nothing. And it's a wide-off stadium, dude. And they home-field advantage is going to real.

Speaking of home-field advantage, we didn't have one. It looked like, dude, it looked like it was a neutral site. Like, it was, it was, it was, it was, it was looking, it was looking, it was looking, it was looking bad in there. Like, at one point, I'm sitting there and I'm watching it, dude, and, you know, I'm sitting in the bus. And I'm like, yo, why are the fans so loud? We're on offense. And I started looking around, dude.

And I'm like, yo, it's a lot of Green Bay fans in it. Like, dude, it was a lot. a Green Bay family. Do you think it's because Green Bay travel so, because Pittsburgh and Green Bay probably the best traveling teams. I mean, I know, you know, when we would go to, like, out in California, playing against the Chargers, it would literally look like it was a home game for the Steelers.

You know what I'm saying? So what do you think is the reason for that? I believe they travel well. Okay, I believe they travel well. But I also believe that when we are on our game, we are at the top of our game, we are balling, We are putting people where they need to be. We're putting them in the dirt and the mud.

Everybody that has it. It's nobody there that's not a season ticket holder. They're not selling their tickets. So the season ticket holders are selling their tickets. When the things is going down like that, ain't nobody wanting to miss that game. I want to say I was there live and in person. No, for sure, for sure.

Right now, we had a situation where they're like, well, I don't know. They're going to win or lose. And it's the Green Bay. They travel well. somebody go pay way more than what I pay for this seat. I may be able to get my season tickets back. You know, in two games, if I get teams that travel like that in that situation where

if you're playing well, don't nobody want to miss it. To talk tomorrow will be, did you see the, da, the, man, I was right there on the 50 yard. I was on the 30. I'm like, you know, whatever that may be. And dude, the stadium started rocking and all that other stuff. Because you was there. You was in there. It's a, you know, it's a combination, you know what I'm saying?

But with it being, we're playing the way we're playing, we're looking the way we're looking, I think fans were like, you know what, I'm going to take a chance to get some of this money. Because I've never seen it like that. I've never seen it like that. And you know what? I don't really care about it being like that, to be honest with you. What I'm worried about is Indy. Indy, number one off.

Then the Chargers, number two, then we play Cincinnati. Cincinnati ain't nothing but a 29 right now, but they got Joe Flackhole. And I guarantee you, the last two weeks that man been starting, his numbers ain't 29. No, for sure. But the way the defense played last week in Cincinnati, I'm optimistic that we got a chance. I'm worried about Chicago, Chicago 12. Buffalo is three. like the Ravens especially if they got Lamar back

I'm worried about that I think we're good with Miami but who knows two of them might say he can't see again to come out there and do some race you know and then add that we got Detroit Detroit and they told team they told me

and if I'm sitting here dude and I'm being realistic dude and I'm going just looking at numbers I don't know names I don't know nothing else and I'm being realistic dude we can mess around and lose six of the next eight games that's realistic we could literally mess around and lose six other eight next games not to mention bruh after that we got cleveland and

baltimore again and i'm hoping cleveland don't get smart enough to give the shodora chance yeah no it's you i feel you i feel you i don't like we're we're in trouble And this week is I need my defense to do something Defense I need y'all to do something bro I need y'all to go and play to the numbers that y'all used to playing man to the names that's used to being

associated with game breaking game breaking plays and stats and all that other stuff like do I need to use reverse psychology on you guys because I'm a person that you tell me I can't do something I'm going to do it I tell you what defense y'all trash you go get beat by Indy Now, go out there and prove me wrong.

Please. That's that reverse psychology, Debo. That's a reverse psychology. Because I'm going to tell you one thing. They know, just like you know, they're watching the tape. They see who's coming in there. And that dude, Jonathan Taylor, has been the last three weeks, rush for three touchdowns a week.

He's catching out of the backfield. He's running full speed. And those holes that the Indianapolis Coast are creating are massive that he's running through. So hopefully, like you said, distillers are watching the same tape that we're watching because they're going to be on the field. We're going to watch the game. They're going to have to go out there and play.

We're going to talk about this on Monday, for sure. But we're going to see what happens. We know what the tape looks like. We know that Jonathan Taylor is running the ball at a very high clip. We know that our defense hasn't been stopping a nosebleed like that. So if they know that, they know they're going to have to be gap control. And like you said, if they don't,

you told them we're going to hopefully work on reverse psychological. let's hope it works because we know that they're watching the tape we know cam we know tj we know that they have the guys in that queen those dudes are good great players so if me and you too we can get the we can get the 22 player we can get the 22 taper tape you know what i'm saying like all 22 and literally watch it play by play and see who's not in who's not in the right spots who's getting moved out the way you know what i'm saying so dude we we had we had on that two-point conversion we only had 10 dude no no no no no that's just blasphemy That's, that's, that's, that's crazy.

Like, what's going on? Like, who is responsible for making sure everybody owns the field? I know guys are getting hurting and, and going back and forth. That's, like, nobody on the field is like, you held up. That's literally football. That's little league football when you have 10 players on the field. Some, some, some, something's not working. I don't, I don't know what it is, whether it's scheme, whether it's, whether it's the, the

combination of both. Definitely that because we can't tackle. If we don't tackle well, that's a player thing, though. That's a question. Like, dudes, if you, or you're there in the position and somebody makes you miss, that's a you thing. That's a, that's what I said. It's definitely both.

We're not getting in the right defenses for the right, you know, plays that they're going against us, whatever that may be. You know, it's a combination. The thing that makes me just the most upset about it. I've seen these guys be able to. do this and do it extremely well. I've been there with them doing it. No, for sure.

The same thing. Like, Debo, you know, like, when we talk about very successful teams that we played on, I'm going to go back to Florida Gators. When I played on that defense, the same way, everybody just knew it. Why couldn't you go to the Browns? Because I was high, because I was a high draft pick and we were bad. So I went seventh overall. So, you know, I was just wondering why you couldn't go to the Browns as a, you know,

demonstrate them of no no no no i'm saying we've had great defenses too but i'm just saying it's everybody being in their right doing their job you know what i'm saying like it's nothing there's no there's nothing extra that nobody has to do but their job so when they go look like literally the the players that we have when we say that they're missing like their our tackling isn't good that's because they're not playing well they're missing those open field tackles the guys that we have that are supposed to be performing at a level missing plays like that's that's just not good enough so you know what saying so a lot of it and then people running scot-free they shouldn't be people running scot-free

through the defense that's a that's a busted coverage that's an eye discipline that's a what are you doing where are you looking you know what I'm saying so like all but it's happening so much dude that at what point do you say it's one of two things you won't do it or you can't do it yeah go it's not getting done and something needs to be done either about the person that's doing it or the plays that's being called and it's not being or or whatever it may be. Yes. But it's not being done. Something needs to be changed. I'm with you, Debo. Because you can't keep doing the same thing and getting the same result because it's not like the bottom of the barrel. You know what I'm saying? Like getting gashed in the gun, getting gashed in the

run, getting gash in the past. Nah. Because just Kansas City's defense, they don't have names. We don't really know besides Chris Jones like who those guys are. We just know they're doing their job. They're playing man to man. They're making tackles. I got outside line, but I can't think of his name. He really, he really, he did. No, my heart, the, 32 being in his thing. I think he was a rookie. The corner to, my man, that they have for Kansas City,

22, 22, McDefew, something like that, I think. He's a baller. But they have, they have players, but not all of, like, it's just dudes are out there making tackles. Like, you see people, nobody's running free. So that's just, I love watching that because it's not too much of a name. It's just dudes doing the right thing, making the right plays. Nobody's running free, Scott free, and they're not missing.

tackles. Speaking of doing the right thing, let's go on over to the Browns. So, boy, Kevin Stefanski says he isn't thinking about playing should door. He said, that is not what he's focused on. He focused on right now he's not thinking about your plan should do it. What do you think about that, bro? Before I go, I want to ask you a question, Debo, what do you feel about that?

Because I want to get your honest, genuine opinion, non-biased, and just you go ahead and let me know how you feel if the, just Browns, coach capacity isn't trying to play what do you think when he says so i i can i can see i can see both sides when i'm not invested okay yes so the browns i can see both sides when i'm not vested into it so i can see you got a young quarterback right you want to make sure you give him enough time to try and develop into whatever it is you think he can develop him because you picked him in the second round for a reason now if you get this short into the game or this short into the season and now you decide you're going to go away

from him. How do you come back to him if it doesn't go well with Shador? You see what I'm saying? Like confidence, booths, drop, whatever that may be. That's going to be hard for some players to take, especially young players nowadays, the way, you know, the way things function now. But at the same time, there are some coaches who are like, I'm going to make myself right. I'm going to keep this young guy in here because I drafted him second. And I need to prove that what I did was correct instead of saying, hey, I'm cutting loose now and saying, oops, I didn't make the right choice and keep it moving. You get the same thing with guys who get young players and hold on keeping that young player in there too long or guys that hold on to old people. players for too long and they don't have the same productivity that they had.

So it's six in one hand, half a dozen than the other. The big issue that I have when you don't make a change is that this dude is not throwing the ball downfield. It's either you're not letting him throw the ball downfield or he can't throw the ball downfield. Again, it's him or the old coordinator. Either way it go, I'm getting the same results and things aren't getting done. With you not wanting to switch and give Shador a chance,

that means in my mind you're telling me you're not allowing him to throw the ball downfield. So that's where I'm at with it. But for me personally, not being the person that drafted a two and I have Shador at five, I'm going to give him a shot. Even if it's after.

They drafted Dylan and three. He plays that. You know what? Oh, three, sorry. Three. It's three and five, oh, yeah. I would have been made that move. It's too close right here.

Yeah, I definitely. I would have made that move this week or worst case scenario next week. But I'm not going to sit here and say I'm not thinking about it. I'm going to be like, yo, we're going to make some change. We want to see what happens. Is Shador? Yes, he's in the works. We're going to see and, you know, proceed each day and go from there.

But to say he's not even thinking about it, that's wild. Debo, I respect your opinion so much because you really gave me a non-bias from the outside. And that's what I tried to do with the Dillon Gabriel situation because he deserves to get the grill opportunity. And you do want to have like the backup, the feeling that you have your coach of support. You know what I'm saying? My thing is with him, I'm like, you don't give me coach man vibes of it. team like end of the day you you can respect one and not disrespect another you know what i'm saying i feel like it's just more disrespect to shadore of not that like being able to say right now

i feel like we're going to continue to give dylan gabriel the starting job he hasn't had enough games we haven't seen enough tape on him chador still processing we're going to have him up next i don't feel like he's i don't feel like he's ready he'll be he's going to we still has to finish his opportunity and then chador's the next man up even if that's not something that we want to hear he can be able to at least say something. You know what I'm saying? Where it's like, yeah, I have Dylan Gabriel's back and I'm not just so submissive to Shador

that I'm not even thinking about him. You need to address your backup quarterback and how you feel about him. Obviously, we know you don't like him, you don't want him to play. Your guy is Dylan Gabriel. I'm not mad at that at all, but it's just like you're so submissive to Shador

and so like I'm all gung-ho on Dylan when he's not really bawling, but I can respect you as a coach to say, like I got this man's back, He's a rookie quarterback. I'm going to give him a little more time. But it's just the submissiveness of Shador that this dismissiveness of Shador that just like, God, damn. Like, I know, like, you just don't like him.

You try to throw jabs at any time that you don't have to. Listen, you do not like him. He's supposed to be your backup quarterback, but he was inactive for the game. How does that work? What happens? His back was tight. No, I don't. No, I don't.

He said, that's what I'm saying, Debo. I'm not feeling. I just don't. think that he likes Shador and just personally, I don't think he likes Shador because you don't speak, you don't have to be so down

playing of another player to upplay somebody else. It's just, his back was tight. That was the thing he said his back. I think he said his, I think he's coming off of, he has a sore back, so he was inactive for him. Stop, stop playing, dude. Stop playing. So Shador went and said, hey, my back sword. No, they said they played, no,

yeah, they said he did, he, they said he warmed them up before the, uh, he went out there and was throwing the ball before the game and his back was, it didn't, it didn't look like he was good enough to go. I just, I don't understand it. I don't understand. Why, why pick the man if you not go even giving him an opportunity or chance?

I don't think it was his, this is what I'm saying. I'm thinking, like, the way that he's doing it, it was not his choice. It was not it. So you think it wasn't his choice? 1,000%. The way that he's doing this right now, you don't treat somebody that you picked. You don't treat your draft picks.

this? No, you don't. You try to look out for your draft picks. You're like, this is my guy. We're going to get through this thing together. He's acting as if Dylan Gabriel was his pick. He didn't want them to draft Shador. We got Dylan Gabriel here. I'm going to die on this door. So who is he trying to put into the basement by not giving Shador an opportunity and making his decision wrong, whoever that other person's decision is right? Who's above him? Who would have to who had a power Joe over there to be like, you're going to pick him? and Andrew Barry and or the Haslims. But I don't think the Haslims wanted to draft him.

So I think it was Andrew Barry. I don't know about that. If the Hasms don't want to draft him, considering the state team, I don't think they do it. I think they could be neutral. I think they could be neutral. I think they,

I think Haslums and Andrew Barry was like, okay, boom, Shador is still on the board. Fifth round, I think, like, this is way, this is great value. Like, it just makes sense to definitely get him here, for sure. And I don't think that. at the coach, one of him there. It just feels like that way

because if you did, you wouldn't treat your draft pick this way, in my opinion. You just don't do that. Wow. I mean, who knows? So Andrew Barry drafted him, right? Jimmy Haslam said,

Barry stuck his neck out for him. That's what I'm okay. That's what I know I'm not speaking out of turn when I say Andrew Barry, the fifth round for sure. He's like, oh, no, like, yes, definitely. This is going to be a great pick for us. And I could see how, like, he didn't want him there.

He's like, no, we got Dylan Gabriel. Hey, he go, he go, he go, he go, he go, he go, he go, he go, he go, he go, he go, he go, he go, he go tank this team, brother. The fans to go tank this team trying to make himself right because they can't get along inside the building and realize that everybody gets credit because he is in the building. Rather, you put him there, wanting him there or not, now you're going to get all these stories coming out. Everybody going to start talking about this, that, and the third.

Dude, keep all keeping them in there. If they keep Kevin, after this year, it's going to be a problem, especially if Dylan doesn't turn this thing around. And this is all I'm saying, too, Debo, I don't want

Dylan not to succeed. But my eyes test is telling me, when I'm watching games, he has a 25.8 QBR on his first, on his, on his, on his, on his four starts. He doesn't throw the ball down the field. Like you said,

is it because he can't or because they're not throwing the plays to do it? When I've seen him throw the ball down the field, it hasn't looked good. He threw it down the field at one time in the game. It looked loose. And he threw the pick. I try to be as nice as possible,

but now I'm like, just give the dudes on the locker room might now. I'll be like, if he's not going to be able to give us anything, give us a chance, put your door in the game. Let's see what he can do. So Dylan, give him another. They're going to come off a bye. If you do want to believe in them, you think four games isn't enough

because once you take him out, you're not going to put it back in. So I feel like five, I feel like it's been, what, eight games in the season. So if he goes to, what, 10 games and then what, that leaves your door with seven. So if he can't do nothing in the next one or two games. Honestly, I say if he give him another two games. That's what I'm saying. So I'm with, he don't do nothing. Hey, I got to see.

I'm not mad at it because the season is. I know I just signed a new contract last year. You know, coaches that money guaranteed. So he probably ain't tripping. He's like, even if I get fired, they still have had to pay me out, you know, whatever. You're making four, six, four, five, six a year, whatever that is. Yeah, he's getting that. So he's guaranteed that.

So he's trying to make itself right. If, you know, I get tossed out, then, you know, I get tossed out. But, you know, if I'm the other coaches in there, I'm like, yo, you get tossed, I get tossed. Like, we get tossed. You know what I'm saying? Like what what like like like like come on and I know a lot of head coaches they they they're head coaches because they like that power they like that position they want to have that control and and you know you still need to have people around you that can talk sense into you that can give you honest opinions and you're not sitting there giving them lip service and being a yes man just because oh well you know he got he got me this job done me this position I don't you know I don't want to do nothing that upsetting no no No, we all in this together. That's how you come together.

And when you have coaches like that, those are coaches that go out and get other jobs and get head coaching jobs. And you see your coaching tree expanding. And you get other guys and you do the same thing. You know what I'm saying? So when you have guys that are willing to be able to let the coaches have their input and you're not making like you're the smartest person in the room, it helps the whole organization. It helps you. It helps them. 1,000%

1,000% Yeah, maybe we need some hard knocks in Cleveland No, Stephansky is around No, we don't No, man Why not? We don't need no more We didn't need no more

No cameras out there Just ball, straight ball We need the cameras need to be in Miami Because that's what if a coach McDaniel's still there That's where it needs to be That's going to be more entertaining Okay

You know what, I'll agree with you on now. I agree with you on that one. But they look like they might be turned around. So Cleveland may be turned into the new, you know, to the new drop zone. Or maybe they could do both of them. A double, a double way. Maybe y'all could do a double hard knocks. That way you don't get no downtime.

We know how y'all like to grab money and all the other stuff. You can get some more paper if you do two. Yeah. You know? I'm for it. Hey. Hey, no question. After Denver whipped on Dallas, Jerry said, he don't think we want a player away from improving this defense, man. He said they need more than just one player.

What's your take on? He ain't lying. Jerry going to tell you how it is, how you feel. Like, I mean, yeah, I mean, they got. What he's saying is, Micah wouldn't have been the reason that we wouldn't have won. and it ain't nobody else that we could bring in here that would be one person that would be the reason that we won.

So my decision to let Mike a go was the right decision. That is all in a, you know, in an attempt to make himself right. Owner, coaches, same name. You know what I'm saying? So that's all that was. Everybody says it's real.

It's not. No, no. You got to circumvent and go around and then see, You got to read in between the lines of what he's saying. No matter who you think you can bring, you could bring, Michael Parsons was here and Miles Garrett was here. Our defense was still.

We might be a little bit better, but we would not answer all of the problems. We're going to have holes. We're going to have gaps. People, that's not going to stop people going over the top on us and us missing tackles. Yeah, definitely. Yeah. Hey, Cowboys, I think y'all are in a rebuilding phase maybe.

Possibly, I don't know, what y'all tell me. I mean, we them boys, y'all been in them boys and y'all ain't did nothing and I don't know how long, man. Like, when the last time they did something? It's been, man, I mean, so we, we, we, I mean, what are you talking about championships or playoffs or playoffs? Just give me, just give me a championship. 90s, 90s, yeah. 90, 94, 95, what year was it? Y'all been going to the Super Bowl every year for like the last 30 years, though.

So as soon as the season start, I don't understand that. And I think that's why everybody dislikes y'all, man, because y'all think y'all better than what your heart and y'all never be, you're never going to be as good as what y'all was in the 90s, man. Y'all need to stop that, man. Like, 95 was the last time y'all got y'all a Super Bowl, man. You're talking about Super Bowl 30? Yeah.

That's 30 years ago. I don't know, 50-something. We close to 60. You're talking about, yeah, yeah. You're talking about 30 years ago. I yeah that's up but the thing is about them they're always relevant people always talking about them jerry's always going to be making a lot of dough so end of the day he handed fist over but it's the fans that always think they're going to go because but the talent though they do

they've had very very very talented teams I think that one year they got screwed over with there's Brian catch that was a catch that was a catch so we don't know where they went that year but besides that I haven't been too far past that yeah so we're coming up on what 60 60 30 years something like that like come on yeah y'all y'all y'all y'all y'all the cowboys man y'all that's it y'all ain't them boys that's like you know cincinnat talking about uh who they would ever know we day we used to be day i mean until they let them do what they did the other week But it ain't y'all. See?

Cowboys, though, man, they get in that, though. But I don't know about the, they got our dude, George Pickens. We could use him, that's for sure. He's just passing. Could we? Man, I'm not so much worried about the office as I am. Yeah, I know. I know.

You really, you really, because it makes a lot of sense, Debo. The defense has been the amount of bread that might. that the boys have over there in the production not even close to match it and that's that's not good yeah yo

also I think we're bringing in a receipt yes um was from uh with uh a rod's man he played a rod

in Green Bay Valdez what do you think of that what do you think of that? I think we needed it. I think it's going to be great. That's exactly. And I think he's a deep threat.

It's going to be somebody finally, because a lot of our D.K. McCaff, for sure, deep ball, bang eights, all that. But we need somebody else. I love, I love Austin. He's just a little smaller. You know what I'm saying? I think he's still been good for us. But just being able to have another threat.

And then a guy that A. A.R. I already play with. He has camaraderie with. He knows the way that he's, you know what I'm saying? He knows his routes. He knows the way how they get along. So I think it's going to be nothing but positive. that's another just a deep threat that we could use.

I was asking for it, you know what I'm saying? Like, and they went and got it. That's the good they realized they needed another person that could take the top off. Yeah, yeah, anything good. Because we're going to need the score points. Oh, my God. Bro, we're going to need the score points.

It's not. We're going to watch the tape. We're going to watch the tape for real, Debo, after the Colts game. Because we want to see. I'm watching every single. You got to see what's up, man. What's going on?

Because it got to be addressed. It has to be addressed. You know what I'm saying? I don't know why. This is the thing. I can sit there and break down, you know, oh, okay, this, anytime I see two people in the gap, something you already know that.

Facts. Nobody has the same gap and nobody has two gaps. I know this also. Like the best you go do is you made two gap a guy and play left or right. But your linebackers are not playing A and B or, or, C and D or A and obviously B, they're not doing that. So something's not happening either with the D line or the linebackers. And it could be a combination of maybe the D line is not getting to the gap they're supposed

to get to or they're getting blown off the ball in situations where I've seen. And he's just trying to get around and feel where he should or he's trying to make a play in a gap that isn't his because right now it may be open as he goes to fill it. The D-Lyman gets to it, and they both in the same gap, running back skirts through to the other gap. So I don't know, you know, even looking at last year when Baltimore did what they did to us, I'm like, yo, why is our outside linebackers crashing down? That's not what you do. Yeah, and you play. Yes, like, why are you having him crash down to the dive, and now you've got the safety trying to come up on Lamar Jackson, full speed, and he's going to give him the, like, that is, you're asking him to do something extremely, extremely.

And then you have the linebacker flowing around to try and come down to stop that and the, you know, the safety doing that. Now, what if he doesn't get down to Derek Henry, you got the linebacker. You're going with some of the stuff, the scheme, stuff. Right. Your scheme is not, it, it don't work because you're asking the guy to do

something that can't be done, even if he was to be able to dominate, like you would have to be somebody that just absolutely probably shouldn't be in the NFL if you can't stop this. dude from getting all the way down and not having him cut off before he gets over the top or not having your quarterback who is one of the most athletic athletes in the league be able to shake a safety who is actually coming down like full speed to try and cut him off or tackle him to get

him turned back in and like I said when the guy can't scrape over the top because your D-line is sitting back there with him now you got a whole whole gap sitting there and before somebody gets to him, it's 10, 15 yards. No. You know what you need to do, Debo? How about this, too, though? We're playing against the Colts. Whoop a man. You know what I'm saying? The first thing about it is every man.

Every man, whoop a man. That's the first things first. You know what I'm saying? First things first is defense of linemen is kick, you're going to make the, we're going to re-we're going to get another line. We're going to re-establish the line. Push them back first. You know what I'm saying? Like, if we start getting some push,

then everything else is going to to work out itself. You know what I'm saying? Like every man, whoop a man. Every man whoop a man. That's easy. Come on one.

Win your one-on-one. Win your battles, man. When your one-on-ones, man. That's the way. Like, you can't. It's so easy. Because we're about to go against them coasts and we're about to see what's up.

When watching this, this guy, this is going to be a good game to see because I believe, like you said, the defense, they know what they got to go do and they know what they're coming in there with. So hopefully they got to, They got an answer. They got to.

Or it's going to start getting ugly. Because like you said, you reeled off that the games they're about to be playing and those teams, those aren't no, it's not going to be too many jokes. You said the Dolphins, you know what I'm saying? We could probably finagle or hopefully tour come out there. If we get visor to her, I don't know what's going to happen then. But like, it's going to be some real good offenses coming in there. Yes.

Like, we can't sit there and play the way, you know, we've been playing. and think that we go even have a shot. Like, it's scary. It's Halloween time, you know what I'm saying? Spooky hours, Debo. Yeah, it's spooky hours out here. Speaking of spooky hours, dude, let's check out and see what the scariest slasher type movie.

What do you think, what was your scary, like, horror movies type of Halloween? See, that's the crazy part, Debo. Horror movies, they scared. I sometimes would get scared when I was a kid to watch. Watching horror movies, like I would not, I would just, you know what I'm saying, I was scared. So I ain't really watched too many scary movies, but like obviously Jason, scary, Friday 13th. What's the joint Candyland when you had to go?

What's the movie? Candy man. In the mirror. Oh, my God. Yes. That was actually really scary. Yes. I ain't go lie to you, bro.

Like Halloween is, it's Halloween. I used to, you know, I used to watch all kind of horror, scary movies, dude. Like, you know, I'm watching all that, you know, the Michael Myers, the Jason, the Freddy Coker. I'm watching all that. I would literally sometimes, dude, like, fall asleep to it, you know. The people were just pissed me off because they always, nobody can never get their balance. I'm like, brough, stand, run.

You know what's coming. He's coming. And, or he's. He's walking and you are keep falling. What are you tripping over? Dude, you know, you know we're scared to hell out of me, though? It. Man.

Dude, I was scared of clowns like four. And that you did, it got like a big head. Even now, I'm like, oh, don't bring the clown close to me because he started doing the stuff and all this with the big shoes and all that. Like, I, you know, I don't know if I'm going to be able to, to control myself. And then, yo, I'm going to give you a story. So I'm at a, I think it was like a Ringland Brothers, Martin Bailey or something, got my son there, right?

And, you know, they got the clowns. They come through the, you know, they come through the stands. And, you know, they're doing the wave and da-da-da-da and all that. And James goes and curls up into my chest. And after the dude, wait, daddy, I'm like, all right, cool. Hey, I'm like, hey, no, he's scared. You know, he's going ahead. You know, he's scared, whatever.

And dude, keep coming, man. He keep coming. So James looks back again and sees him, and now he starts crying, dude. And I'm like, yo, get the fuck out of here. Can't you see he scared, you stupid motherfucking, like, dude? Like, I'm ready to pop off on him, you know what I'm saying? Debo.

You got scared your son. Yeah. Like, no, you're not about to make him, like, you're not about to get him into liking you. Like, he's scared, dude. Like, get away. Leave him alone, man. Take a hand. Leave him alone, bro.

And, and like what? I'm scared, too, so now you don't kick my fears in. He doesn't kick my fears in, too. You know what I'm saying? Like, so we both sitting here, and I don't know nothing else but to fight. No, Debo. Okay, I don't know flight. You don't know flight.

You don't know flight. I can't run. Debo, did you hit the man? Okay, thank you, Jesus. He got the word. Dude, yeah, because, dude, do you got. And walk that way. You don't get up out of here.

No, bro. People were looking at me, like, I'm like, that's the part too. That's not funny. People in this, when they try to be scaring little kids, I'm like, man, don't be scaring my kid. I ain't going to be crying. Dude, I used to do, I used to do it. Like, the scary, like, I give out the Halloween candy, though.

I used to, I used to, like, shoot off, like, fireworks, and I'll be wearing, like, a scary mask. And I would come, like, from down the driveway, walking down the driveway with, like, you know, a fake knife and all that. Man, they'd be screaming and hollering, dude. Yeah, dude. I was, I was, yeah. I mean, I don't do it. I said, just what you do?

What you would do if you walked up on you for Halloween? Oh, I'm going to let him know. Just don't touch me and it will be cool. If you touch me. No, no, no. That's why do you do the hundred houses? I could, I'm like, don't. As long as you don't touch me, like, I know that you can't,

you're not going to be able to like. Do, if you touch me, it's a hundred houses. You did that. That's what I'm saying. I'm not going to that. If you touch me, I'm snapping. I'm all. I'm already on 10, I'm already spooked.

And now you, yeah, I went through like a hundred, like, a hundred woods or something like that. And it was like outside. It's called like zombies of the corn out here to have. And I did that a few years, a few years back, dude. And I was laughing so hard. Like, I was crying going through there. And my sons, they were smaller. And they were, dude, they were scared to death.

And I think that's what was tickling me, dude. My youngest birthday is Halloween. It's October 31st, dude. You're return to 16 this year, bro. And, dude, like, I was in tears. And then when I get there, I would literally, anytime somebody walked up to me, like they had these, you know, guys in masks and all this,

they come up. I'd literally scream like a chick in a horror movie. And people would be just staring around looking at me, dude, and I'm just sitting there. I'd hollering and scream. You was hollering and screaming. You was faking. I'd be like this.

I don't even know if I could do it right now, My voice is faking. You was faking. Let me see if I can do it. I'd be like, I would have done it. You're doing that? I would have started, did they not laugh at you?

They knew you was faking it. Debo, your slow assid there screaming like that. So I'm doing it, but I'm laughing, crying at the same time. But it's scaring the hell out of my kids, right? Because they can't tell, you know. But they finally realized it. But, like, people around you that are scared, you're turning, like, what is it? You know what I'm saying?

So Jason will come up to you, Freddie, I'll come up to you. I just started screaming and I dropped to my knees. Like, don't kill me all that. Oh, you started acting in there. Oh, yeah. I was acting a fool in there, dude. Yeah. Like, acting the fool in there.

Like, now I don't do it no more. I didn't got to where I can't do the celebration of Halloween no more, dude. I didn't, I didn't. See, I do a little bit. You know, my boys is still young. I got the nine and six by the turn seven. So my news is still peak, peak Halloween. They do the tricane.

Go trick-or-trick. Hey, so also, I do the scariest thing during Halloween. What is that? I give out candy corn, pocket candy. Oh, God. That's the number. See, that's scary. That's scary.

Bro, you're the, I'm, I'm lying, bro. I'm about to say, Devo, you can't be giving out the candy corn. From my hand, literally straight from, that's scary. That's scary. From hell on the bearers. No, my, my God, but I just, no, we're good on bruh. We're good on brus candy. You can keep that.

Happy Halloween, sir. Let's go ahead. Go back out of here. Matter of fact, speaking of candy, dude, what's, what candy do you like? What's your best to worse? We're going, man, I'm a big. I ain't going to lie. to you, I like, I like Snickers.

I like. I'm with you. What else I like? I like, what I like, Kit Kat. Kit Kat ain't bad. I like, I like, I like Eminem's. I like peanut Eminemes. Okay.

Yeah, I like peanut Eminemes. I'm gonna do regular Eminemes. I like the peanut Eminemes. I'm gonna do Snickers. I'm gonna do Kit Kat. What else I'm gonna do? Twix. Twix?

and then I could do some I could do some skittles I could do some starbursts I'm not really too much of a candy I don't just eat candy randomly but if I were to eat in the can that's the candy that I kind of would go with what about you Debo

dude I would I would crash out sometimes and I'd go and I'd eat like especially if I was like hurt or something you know how they get those big gnailators from the store they got the day in the pack

you get like a giant You weigh them out by a pound. You were getting nine letters by the pound? Oh, you're a wild man, Dibbeau. Used to, used to. I ain't the person I used to be. For sure, for sure, yeah. You don't matured.

Now, I would literally sit there at night and just put it by my bedside, and I would sleep eat, and I'd be like, Hey, bro, do you is eating nilaters in anachaleptic state? It's crazy. I wake up, it'd be like, it'd be like 20, 25 rappers on the ground, bro. And I don't smash it. Not while you're sleeping.

You were asleep. Listen, pink-sized knickers. Stop lying to me. You weren't sleeping. If I wake up, like, you know how you wake up and you roll over? I'm dropping my hand in that bag. I'm dropping my hand. That was years and years and years ago.

That was like when I first started. You know what? Like, I was dropping. You know what? Br, I used to eat terrible, bro. Brough. You eating now or later, all your sleeping is something I've ever heard of.

Twix, baby roofs, Clark bars, which would call it, man. Like all king size candy. For sure, that's the only way you can go. That's the only way you could go.

Bro, I'd sit there literally do it sometimes and be like, you know, I can't even call them. Right. Like, it'd be right here in my chest, bro. Like, I was bad. Dang. Oh, you sent me, bro.

I appreciate you letting me know this. I would have never expected you to crush candy like that, for one. Back in the day. For sure. And eating candy in your sleep. I think that should be something if somebody say, bro, what's a random fact that I never know? He'd be like, bro, I can eat now later.

in my sleep. Bro, I'm trying to tell you, dude. Like, I mean, and I would, as soon as it ran halfway down, you know how you get the plastic bag, right? It's like, oh, I'm filling it up. And I'm going to double bagging because I don't want the bus.

Bro, I would eat, listen, back when I was trying to do, like my early 20s, dude, I would eat. Krispy Kreme donuts? Bro, I'm eating two dozen of them all day. day, that's breakfast, lunch, and dinner.

I was horrible. Did you work out? Did you work out too, though still? Yeah, I worked out twice a day, but... Calories in, calories out. Calories out. Only way. Only way.

Right. I was eating out at least two, three times a day. I had no, you know, no home-cooked meals, nothing like that. You know, you're young, you're in the early 20. I was doing fast. He was terrible back in the day. Bad, bad, man, Lord. That good McDonald's dollar me and you.

I get hungry. And I'm not close to a store But I'm at a gas station Oh, I'm Kingside Snickers Reesies, Butterfingers, Clark bars Heath bars I'm getting everything

Okay And that's what I'm going to eat today Wow I was today years old But that was back in the day though You're mature That was back in the day though Oh I don't mature

Way be on that I don't realize that my body It's your temple Only get one That's your temple Only get one. No question. Joe, who are your defensive player of the week?

Man, I ain't going to lie to you. I got to go back to it. I'm a duel for the land, even because he's standing on business. And I haven't seen anybody get five sacks. And my, I haven't seen it before. So I'm going to go Miles Garrett. Five sacks. I want it to not.

I know. I know. I know. I told you that. I said, I don't care. He's like when Bronron should have got the MVP of the finals when they lost and they gave it to the Eagle Dollar. that's how I felt when I gave this one of my house

for sure. He deserved it. Yeah, I ain't gonna lie. He went out. He went out of control. I mean, but, you know, the win would have been nice to say it. A thousand percent. I got to give it. I got it. I got it. I got it. He did his one 11th. He did his one 11th. That's a hell of a performance. Come on, Bibo. He did his, he did his one 11th. Yeah, no question, bro.

Look here, man. Thursday night football, we got the Ravens and the Dolphins. You understand? And we want to thank you guys. We're going to be back here on Friday. We want to thank you guys from joining us. For this episode of Debo and Joe, please make sure you hit the like and subscribe button. You know what I'm saying?

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