Nightcap - Deebo & Joe EPISODE 100 - Part 1

Episode Date: May 4, 2026

NFL Legends James "Deebo" Harrison and Joe Haden react Drew Allar being among top rookie jersey sales, Steelers rookie Gennings Dunker's pre game diet, and much more!   Download the PrizePicks app today and use code DEEBOJOE to get $50 in lineups after you play your first $5 lineup! https://prizepicks.onelink.me/LME0/DEEBOJOE Timeline:00:00 - Intro08:56 - Drew Allar ranks top 5 in rookie jersey sales16:43 - Gennings Dunker’s pregame meals27:01 - Browns undecided on QB battle33:14 - Browns hiring Trent Baalke (Timestamps may vary based on advertisements.) #Club #NightcapSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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I know you saw your boy out there. I'm just understanding why they had to get all the way to game seven. They had to go all the way to seven. That's crazy. How do you, Deepo, not with the negativity today. I'm not hearing you. I'm just asking the question, Joe. The first thing is we went in one game seven,

and the second thing is I'm very excited about is this my good man's birthday today. Thank you, thank you. It's not my good man, my great man, Debo. Thank you, thank you very much, man. You know, I'm getting up there, baby. Just turn 38, baby. Come on, Debo, you have 50.

You are out here lying 10 years. You are 48 years old, a healthy, strong 48. You need to take that. 48 to the chin because you, bro, you look good for 48, bro. You look good for 48. Don't know. I just, I just turned, I just turned 38.

You upset because we are, we ain't nothing but a year apart. You just realize that, huh? No, D.C. Debo, you, you're funny. It's okay. It's okay. You upset? Don't be mad. I'm not mad, Joe.

You aging like fine wine, brother. You know what I'm saying? I ain't, Joe, I ain't upset. I'm just trying to figure out why you're trying, you know, why you're trying to, you know, put an extra 10 on your boy. Because you're 50, for real. That's why, okay? And I love you, Debo.

Boy, I love you too, man, but I still know, 38. The chat, 38. Nah, that boy is, that boy, that boy, Dibbo. Yeah, yeah. Shout out to the chat. My good man, Debo is 48 years old. May 4th. A good man was born.

And now he is 48 years old and thriving. Hey, Joe, let me get 100 with you, though. Keep it, keep it to be in with me. I couldn't remember what I was turning. I'm like, where'd that? Bruh, I'm like, I'm like, oh, shit, I might be 49. That's what I was thinking. I'm like, oh, shit.

Yeah, the numbers get to start. What's going on? The numbers get to running together. Joe, I had to sit back and I had to be like, all right, 78. No, no, no, no, I'm turning. I'm like, no, I'm turning 48. No, I ain't already 40. I thought I was going 49 for me.

Yeah, yeah. I thought I was going 49 for me. You got to take your time. You got to take your time. Right. So, happy birthday to you, Debo. Thank you, brother. Appreciate it.

Very, very happy. And then I'm going to say when we had to go to game, bump all that. Did you see, we won the game? Jury Allen. I understand. I understand. Shout out to the calves. We're trying to go and get busy.

You're trying to win the ship here. You do a lot of we in Cleveland. Bro, I do we in Pittsburgh, too. But you get, No, no, they getting tired of that bullfragger rock. They're getting tired of it? They're getting tired of it. I see them.

They're like, Joe, pick aside and stick to it. They like stand on something. I've been standing on it. I've been standing on it. I'm standing on. Hey. I'm rocking with this. Hey.

You know where it is. I'll just say this. But I love. And y'all get this right. What up, though? You know where y'all got to see where you got to go. Detroit. You got to see Detroit.

We do. We do. We do. We do. What up, though. The Pistons, what up, though. That's Detroit for y'all. Can I tell you something?

They went to game seven with number eight ranked Orlando. They were trying to warm up. Yeah, yeah. Well, why did they go to game seven? You say all that, they were trying to warm up. So the cabs were trying to warm up. We were just, you know what I'm saying? Because, listen, they was already three ones, Joe.

It was three ones. The people, they're like, hey, can you? You guys stretch this out. We need to get a seven. We need the ratings. All that other stuff. Yeah, yeah, yeah. All that calves.

Look. Like, come on. My dad's a reverend. I'm going to heaven. Caves in seven. That's all I know. Oh, my God. Get out of here, man.

Get out. Yeah. You come get that. Yes, sir. You come get that. That's all I'm telling you. I'm going to heaven. My dad's a revving, Cavs and seven.

And stop, Cunningham, though. Hey, oh, he's nice. What I'm not going to do is sit here in disrespect. We're going to need a man there. Huh? We got Donovan Mitchell. We got James Harden, and we have a man named Jared Allen that brings his lunch, pale, to work every day. This man wore the same pair of shoes the entire season.

He's not worried about nothing but getting a bucket and getting some rebounds and doing what we got to do for the team to win. So that's just probably superstition. He don't want to change his shoes. Bro, it got to be superstition. I don't care. It's making me look like he's a gangster. You're going to wear one pair of shoes for the whole season? Bro, they must have amazing.

Bro, you can't do that. That's no, mm-mm. Brother, he's doing it. He's doing it. He's doing it. He's wearing one pair of shoes, and there's a hole in them joints right now when he's still got 22 and 19 with a hole in his boot.

That man, Jerry Allen is a full-blown gangster. Brother, I'm not, I don't know. That's not. That can't be. be good for your ankles. He ain't got no stability. Bro, he's wearing ankle braces. He's an old school player. He played in the 70s. Jared Allen is reincarnated. He was born before.

He played back in the day, and now he's back again. He was here once before. I'm trying to tell you. Debo, I'm telling you. He's wearing old man. And he's wearing the shoes from back then too, huh? Yes. That man, Jerry Allen is a gangster. That's why Cleveland loves him. Work pale, work boots.

Work ankle braces. Ankle braces. Yes. Okay, man. Shout out Jerry Aller. For show, for show. Look here, man. Yes.

Our quarterback, say his name. Drew Aller. Okay, I got it. Drew Aller. Stillers. Yes. Quarterback. Drew Aller.

Yes. Ranks top five in rookie jersey sales. He's hired him, man. Doza, he is only, what, it's only three people ahead of him. It's Caleb Dowles, Jacob Rock Regis. Yep. Malachi Lawrence. It's him.

And then your boy, Fernando Mendoza, he tops out the five. So, Joe. Yes, sir. This is something that people don't understand or may not understand. Like, like while being drafted high is a good thing. What they're looking for is, I think it's two things. Expectations, player, you know. Yeah, like, so what's the hype behind them?

And then it's the fan base that they're going to. How dedicated are the fans, Joe? Do you have fans that, you have fans that, That feel connected to their team. They feel like family, Joe. Yes. Do they bleed black and yellow, Joe? Mm-hmm.

Hey, that boy, Drew, Aller, he played Penn State. Homegrown, that's what they feel like. That's what they feel like. He already instill his country. That's what they feel like. Hey, they feel like they know that man. And the fan, hey, like, yes, the fans knowing. Yes.

They feel like they know him. That's their guy. Mm-hmm. You know what I'm saying? That was the time. Shit, when you go, to, hell, Pitt, Penn State and Pitt play, that's the only time you get some bruckies now

because most people go go with Pitt because it's closer to home. You know what I'm saying? Unless you are actual fan of Pitt already. Yeah. Or Penn State, sorry, unless you're a fan of Penn State already, then, you know, you may switch it up. And, I mean, that's simple mathematics

when you look at it, man. Bro. You look at it, Debo, when you're looking at these top jersey sales, obviously, like you said, our man's in there, Drew Aller, is because Penn State, homegrown, in the state. So everybody's going to buy his jersey. Caleb Downs, the Dallas Cowboys fans are all in.

And then the dude, he's probably the best player that was in the draft. So you know the Cowboys going to go crazy. Fernando Mendoza being five and Drew Allen being over him, kind of surprised me because, obviously, quarterback. He was expected to be the number one pick. He's coming in. He's clean cut. does it the right way. So I'm as expecting his jersey sales to be higher. So I think Drew Allen,

I think the Steelers Nation just stood up because they obviously, we want a quarterback. We want somebody to be successful. Somebody wants somebody to hold on to. And then him being from Penn State, him being in the state, I feel like that just made it extra, extra good for everybody in Pittsburgh. Dude, Mendoza is number five because it is not a lot of hype behind him. He's in a draft class that is considered the weakest since 2022 draft class. He's in Las Vegas. He's from Indiana.

So there's no real change of a crossover from college to pro. Matter of fact, the 22 draft, bro, that was when we ended up getting Kenny Pickett's sit quarterback. Yeah, yeah. We went and got Kenny Pickett's, okay? The dude's number, he was like,

I don't know, 13. I don't know what his number was. It didn't matter. His jersey sales was number one for all rookies. And it was actually number four across the whole league. Okay? Yeah. And that was because of the hype that was behind him.

He was supposed to be the quarterback that was going to takeover for the heir apparent. He was going to be the replacement for Ben. He was going to be our new franchise quarterback. And that was supposed to be the dude that was going to takeovers since Ben I retired. None of that happened, but there go the fans. Again, the guys you said at what, one and three? Yes. You got two Cowboys at one and three.

They're going to now. Fans going to pay that. Hey, it's the Cowboys. The Cowboys. They are already delusional. Mind control. I'm dead serious, bro. Like, their fans are talking about, we didn't,

boys every year, bro. And they ain't seen a championship since 95, 96, 30 years? I know. I'm not mad. 30 years, bro. They ain't won nothing but five playoff games in the last 30 years since then. They ain't made it out of the divisional round, period. I know.

I know. I'm with you, D. We ain't hollering about we about to go to, hey, hey, here we Pittsburgh going to the Super Bowl. We was only out of it for 10. out of a 30. Yeah. Y'all talking crazy. You delusional.

But the crazy part is, though, Debo, their teams aren't that bad. Their teams, they never don't have talent. They never don't have players that are out there. So if I'm their fan base, you're thinking when you look at the roster on paper, it looked like you should win something. So that's why I'm like, I'm not blaming them.

But they got to do it on the field. Listen, I don't care. And none about none of that they have delusional fans. Everybody is in the hunt when the season starts because ain't nobody played a game or lost. Oh, yes. One or lost yet. Yeah. And tell, all you got, the Cleveland.

Shador last year, he was drafted in the fifth round. Who? Jersey sales, number one as a rookie. Yes. And then the top five as a whole league. Yes, yes. Experience Harry Styles live in London, England at Wembley Stadium. This is Harry Styles.

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No. Every year y'all think y'all go get to the playoffs and win and the team go do right and they go, They go get things to get people and all the other stuff. And y'all keep sitting there and y'all sitting there in the dog pounder. We, Debo, this, Debo, it hates, it hurts me to, it hurts me to say that. You keep on saying that. And we, my Browns, beat the Steelers the last time they played in the playoffs. So all I'm talking is, all that shit you talk.

If it was a fifth, we all be drunk and you only as good as your last game. So all that, all that back and. the day shit, I don't want to hear it. Okay? Y'all, we still isn't won the Super Bowl. The Steelers ain't won a playoff game before the Browns did. Okay? We won the Super Bowl.

You definitely won the Super Bowl. We definitely won the Super Bowl. And that's when, yeah, yeah, you did. You did. I think we won six of them. Y'all still ain't got one. We won the championship. Jim Brown got one.

That's back in the day. That was back in the day. Championship in the 50s, when it wasn't even a whole league. the didn't even have nothing but what six all right I'm not trying to even go there with you right now brother

I'm just I'm just I'm just I'm just asking questions sometimes stating questions sometimes stating facts sometimes stating I'm going to keep watching I think in my head every single day like it's crazy how you don't want to talk

about something when the conversation don't start you start you know getting a little ify over there in Cleveland I don't understand it Joe but we go stay over here in Pittsburgh because we got good things

going on here. Yeah, no, for sure. Okay. So my guy, what's up? Jennings Dunker. Big Red. Uh-huh. Hey, this dude eating something crazy. Brother, is this real? This is what they're saying, dude. So the night before at 5.30 p.m., it's two to three pasta servings. Yes. Marinera bread rolls a 12. Whoa, God. Yes, DeBoe. That's what I'm saying. Two fruit servings. Okay, so later that day, or that evening, at 8.30 p.m.

Three hours late. Three hamburgers, three baked lays, hydration mix, hot chocolate. Yes. First thing in the morning. Wake up in the morning. He got four pieces of toast. Yeah. Two Wheaties, bowls, pancakes, two chicken breasts.

9 a.m. Four more toast. plus one chicken breast and the post game Culvers. You ever ate at Culvers? I am not. I wasn't overly impressed.

It's a double, they ain't got no covers here, so you're going to be out of luck, baby. What's a burger spot? Yeah, it's a burger spot. It's supposed to be. I wasn't impressed. I ate it in Arizona.

That's the same thing with like that in and out, that in and out burger is good. Bro, that ain't nothing but a green. Cricie MacDonald's burger. No, it's not. Bro, stop playing with me. Post game,

dude of the Culver's, double baking cheese. Wow. Family cheese, curds, onions, onion rings, and three rent sides. Yeah. This right here, I mean, it's before the game. I can see he carving up.

Bro. How much do he weigh? That's what I'm saying. The pregame, the pregame isn't as crazy for me. I mean, all together, 715, the man got eight toast

before the game, two, three tricking breasts, two Wheaties bowls, some pancakes, and eight pieces of toast the morning before the game. That's a lot of food. He's talking about a 12 o'clock game?

Man, he must be talking about one o'clock game. Hey, he might be one of them cats that got to eat a lot to keep their weight. I would, he has to because otherwise, he would be humongous. Like, did you have any foods that you would eat, like, you know, every time before a game?

Oh, yeah. Oh, yeah. I'm doing the pasta. I'm doing the, uh, I'm doing like the, what was it? The noodles with the, yes, I'm doing like spaghetti, basically, before the game with a chicken breast. That's my thing. That's it. That's it.

That's it. Spaghetti and chicken breast, bro. Because my stomach be messed up before the game. I feel, I feel like I really can't eat, but I got to get something in. So the spaghetti and chicken breast is just normal. smooth, cool. I know it's going to taste the same every time. So I just was going with that, get something in my belly, and go.

Because before the game, I ain't going to lie deep. I always had not butterflies, but my son. You had nothing before? The night before? Nothing specific. Yeah. Nothing specific, bro. I just, yeah, probably the same.

I was probably eating the same thing. I was eating that spaghetti the night before. Because, you know, the team meal, they always got the spaghetti with the chicken breast, hit that. And then in the morning, come back down and do the same thing. Well, see, we ain't had that when I came up. Well, as far as college, I started in college. So in college, they were to give us, you get like two pieces.

You get two large pieces before the game. And that was our dinner. Like, we was at Kent State, bro. And that's, you know, that's all they could afford that time. You know. Well, at least that's what we thought. But looking back at it, that was a damn lie. because we made damn near 70, 80% of the money that was, you know, generated for the athletic programs.

And it wasn't because we was good, bro. We sucked. It was because the school was getting paid by the other schools. Getting paid to go out to go out there and send us in there as the damn sheep to the wolves for the big boys for Big Ten. And they get us or get a school for $500,000 come in there for, you know, two, three games every year. you know, you get a few million dollars to get your face kicked in to be their homecoming game. They warm up, you know what I'm saying? Yeah, yeah, yeah.

Anyway. You was the, you was the Gators, you was the Gators first game of the season. Dude, got you a nice chat. I ain't going to deny that facts. Came and got you a nice chat. We was the first three games, minimum, minimum two, if not four, you go on to, oh, yeah, you get a chance to get in front of the big boys. Y'all get to see, you know, get to play up against the big.

tripping. I was cool. You're going to hold your own, you're going to hold your body, both. You're going to handle yours. That's for sure. We getting worked on out there, man. You know, they're instructed ban up. It's 30-something or whatever by the time you're going to hit the second quarter. Like, man, they got you. They didn't let you go in that game with enough bullets, man.

You don't have one you. You needed some more. You need about eight more, at least. So my thing was the night before the game, was to eat pizza. So I think it was like 2007. I ended up jumping back into it. I think we were somewhere. I can't remember where we were, but I was like, yo, I want like some Papa John's pizza. And that was the thing they used to give us Papa John's pizza. Oh, fine. I'm doing man. With the dipping all that right. So I'm like, oh, my God. I want some Papa John's pizza. Yes, they came with it. I ordered it. Dipping sauce all that. Man, I'm going to smash the whole pizza, and I'm like sitting up there like, ooh, wee. The next day got up, eight,

I eat a huge breakfast, too, because I get up super early. I try and get to the game, like, at least, like, four hours before the game, so I can have all my stuff ready. You complete opposite to that. Oh, yeah, I'm trying to get there as soon as possible. I do all my stuff. I take my own jerseys. I do my, I do my, I do everything.

Shut up. Seriously? I don't let them do none of that, bro. Okay, okay, yes. Okay, D. I wasn't hip. I was today. Oh, yeah.

Yeah, I don't let him do none of that. So you get up to the stadium four hours before? Right. So. In 2007, like I said, I ordered that Papa Johns dude. Yeah. Man, I felt great. And then it reminded me, I'm like, yo, I used to eat pizza.

Like, that's all we had before the game. And I felt great when I played. So I'm like, I'm going back to that. And I don't even know if you was there, the couple games that I did play, but I would order a large pizza. Well, I would actually order two when it came time because other guys started being like, eating a slice and all this other stuff. So we had a gatorade and we treated the gatorade like it was wine. So if you had some red, you said you needed a cab, you had a lighter one.

You know, you say it was, it was, it was something to, um, it was white. Yeah. So everybody would get a slice. I still get a whole piece of myself. For sure. Everybody else would just grab a slice and it just became a thing where we was, you know, we was breaking bread like after food, but it was good. It was great, bro.

See, I wasn't, it must have not been, because I didn't, I didn't ever see the slice. I wish I would have seen it. I would have definitely came over there and grabbed me a slice, Deepo. Yeah, it was only, I shit, by time you got there, that was, what, 17? Hmm. It wasn't, shit, it might have been only, like, maybe three people that was still there from when I originally started doing it. But, dude, there used to be, like, the whole defense, bro.

I was, at one time, I was ordering three pieces. I'm like, yo, dog, y'all can't take none of this one. I at least need half of it, bro. Yeah. Like, Jack, Jack will order. I'd be like, Jack, he'd be like, yeah. Jack, one of the most clutches people in the one of the ones. world. Yeah. Yeah. I'd be like, Jack, man, he'd be like, yeah, I got you. Don't worry about it.

Give me the money and all that, you know, blah, blah, blah. Yeah. So as it come in, we break the meetings. As soon as we break the meetings after the team meeting, we do all our stuff. Yeah. That's when I get the pizza. So I wouldn't even, I wouldn't even eat the regular meal that we had there. I'm like, y'all, I'm saving all that. I'd come in there starving, bro. Be ready just to eat that. Hell dog. But that Papa John's pizza with that sauce ain't nothing like. Come on, bro. Like, hey, I'm going to tell you another one that's hitting. I don't even know what's the name of it right now.

It's, um, what is it? I want to say, it's pizza? Yes, dude, it's pizza. It's around here. I just, man, I order it, bro. Like, every now and it, it got, it got like a turbo, turbo, they call it turbo crush. It's like a garlic turbo crust. Oh, my goodness, bro.

I'm not hell. What's the name of it? Is it Jets or, or is it Fox? I started doing, I started doing that one. when I was in Atlanta during COVID, when I was filming Hills. Me and my dude, Alan, dude,

we was driving 30, 40 minutes, brother to go get pizza, like 11 o'clock in night, bro. Man, it was good, though, bro. So they got one here, but it's like, it's a good 30, 40 minutes away and they don't do that.

So you got to go get it. Every nine then, you know? Every nine, your boy got to run down there and get that, you know what I'm saying? You got to go 45 for the pieces. Oh, yeah, it's no question. That's one way.

Okay. That's one way, Joe. You're eating the piece of a shore on the way back in the wheel. Oh, you can't. You can't. What you mean? You can't. Yeah.

Jets. It's Jets. It's Jets. Got the turbo crush. Yes, it's Jets. They're right. Jets got the turbo cross. Bro, I'm telling you, when you come here, you got to find you a Jets, bro.

Make sure you get a turbo crust. I will. Matter of fact, get you the one that only got the corners. You can get it where it got all, just all corners in there. So you get all corners. So you are. See, okay. I'm gonna order that.

I'm gonna order that. I'm gonna order that. Yeah. Yeah. Lisa, order me some turbo cross. Please. Please. Yeah.

You know, we need to get to, though, Debo, because we didn't mean, you know, we ain't talk to, we, let's talk about my boys. Yeah. Let's talk about your boys. About that. About that. Boy, Todd Monkin.

Yes. Yes. Now, they asked him. if he had a goal for naming the starting quarterback his goal was to name a starting quarterback before a training camp, right?

And he said, I would love to have that. I'm not there yet. Monkin replied, so I can't say that. You can't say what, dude? You can't say that you have or like want to have in mind a time frame of when you think you could have enough

plays to evaluate the quarterback's performance that you have. Joe, I don't know what this is, but I'm going to tell you right now. It sounds like a little brownie because as you sit there and you look at it a little more, it goes, oh, but he did say, he says this one. What did he say? He said, listen, once we get on the field for, four weeks at the end of spring we'll have a better idea.

He continued to then say, but there's only so many reps you get, you've got to start to target towards who's going to start opening day. Okay? Yes. But then he went browning, and he comes back with this.

I'll say he went browning. He went browning. And he comes back with this one. He says, now, this can still change. He added, that can change even if someone's getting two-thirds of the reps or someone's getting a third of the reps because you're still going to play preseason games. Yes.

You're still going to want to see those guys at quarterback and see how they play. Yes. Why not just say we'll, we're going to know who our starting quarterback is before the first regular season game. Leave it at that and keep it going. Because all this stuff you're saying right here, it sounds like anybody could be the quarterback. It could be Watson. It could be Sador. It could be Gilbert.

It could be green. The dude they just picked up. Joe, what is going on with your coach here that he? He can't give a straight answer. And then he seems to be talking about what somebody put out there about the reps being flipped over. Like, why not just say, we're going to figure out who are starting quarterback kids before the first regular season game instead of going and giving all this mumble, jumbo, double talking, browning. I guess because he's coach for the Browns. I don't know.

I'm asking you. This is what I understand what you're saying. If I was you, I would do the same thing. say it doesn't matter. He needs to have his own, he got his own time table. So he says before the first game of the season, Debo, I'm with you a thousand percent. He's kind of like, he don't need to rush. I feel like if he would have said, I'm going to have my start about the first game of the season.

It's just he's making more conversation that doesn't need to be made. You're exactly right. I think that when you say things like, just only had, they've only had three practices. You know what I'm saying? There's time. Why? But you only had three practices, but you've already. switching from who's starting

the practice is with the most reps with the ones. Because when you're having a quarterback competition, because when you're having a quarterback competition, that's what you do. Sometimes one guy's going to get more reps one day and the next guy's going to get more reps the next day. You can't. Nobody talking about Dylan or No. This is what I'm saying. No. I mean,

obviously, Chidor was already to start a quarterback. I mean, Shador already started. is coming back making $46 million this year. That's the two quarterbacks. Dylan Gabriel, you had your chance. And Shador, in my opinion, looked like he was better, has a better trajectory to be actual starting quarterback.

So now it's him and Deshawn in a quarterback battle. Some days, Deshawn's going to have more reps. Some days Shadour's going to have more reps. And people are living and dying by every throw. The quarterbacks and the coach, they're going to have to go back, see, watch, evaluate, and then they're going to pick who they want to be the starting quarterback. And then we're going to go from there. So it's just everybody like you, everybody like people,

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Look, no, I'm saying you're talking about the article that Mary Kay said because Mary Kay's putting out there, oh, we got more reps this day, because that's what happens when you're battling. The next day, Shador probably get more reps. Like, it's only... She said that, yeah, I'm sure Mary Kay would actually say that if that ended up happening and turning back around

because she'd been doing, doing this since the early 80s. It doesn't matter. Experience, you know, analysts, reporters, sports, Ebo. However you want to call it. You're going to tell me just because they get voted and win an award, them saying people was the one that kept out fucking Bill Belichick, like, they don't know what they don't know.

She's good. I like it when I like it and I don't like it. And I don't when I don't. You know the reporters out there in Pittsburgh or two. If somebody gets a reward, you think that just means that they're good? No. You can still be doing foggy things And when...

Oh, so you're saying she ain't good. She just... No, I'm saying that some people could... To each his own. To each his own. Okay. Okay. I'm just asking because the, you know,

with this Munkin thing, the report says the Browns hired... Trent, what is that, ballot? In a consoling role. The consultant role. So the Browns hired long-time NFL executive, exact Trent Balky in a consultant-like capacity.

Yo. Too many cooks in the kitchen. No, Joe, hell, no, Joe. The Jazz wires fired him at gym in 2025 off season. And he has been out of the NFL since last season. Okay. Now, during his tenure in Jacksonville, the Jags went 25 and 43 with head coach Urban Meyer and Doug Pedersen, along with interim coach, Derell Belvin.

Yeah. All them got fired, Joe. Everybody got fired. Now, look, everybody fired. He got a problem, Joe. He'd go to problem. Now, this actually, what is it? It's 25.

So that was 25. So in 25, before they got the coach that they actually got now. Liam Cohen. Yeah. He was the old coordinator for the Buccaneers, right? Mm-hmm. And he actually had decided to pass on the second interview a head coach position for Jacksonville

and stay with the Bucks, along with it was Ben Johnson and Aaron Glenn saying the same thing that they was go past because they didn't want the job if he was still going to be the GM. And of course, later, Cohen took the job with the incentive that he could pick his own GM. And this all started all the way back in 2014 when old Trent and Jim Hardball was bumping heads. And mutually agreed to part ways more people say it was more like a firing over there. And it was a mutual agreement with the owners, obviously, siding with Trent. over Jim.

And everything went downhill from there until he was fired in 2016. Okay? So he took and didn't want to listen to Jim Hardball over there with the 49ers. After they had, I think they went to a championship game where one the championship, I can't remember which one it was. But he decided he was big dog.

He wanted to do everything his way. Obviously on the side winning. And they was like, we're going to go your way and we're going to get rid of Jim. Jim went over there to Michigan and started cheating up some storms and winning some money, I mean, winning some games and all that.

Anyway, all right. So he would later get fired in 2016 from the 49ers. He would go to the Jaguars in 21 until 24, and it has been a steady decline since then, bro. Joe, so what is it about, Oh, Trent, that your Brown, see, that makes you or makes your organization want to bring him in to consult about what? How not to do it.

You, Bo. I'm with you 1,000% on this one, and I'm pissed. I'm just sitting here taking it. What the fuck he's going to come help us consult about? Leave us alone. Don't come over here with your losing vibes. I don't bring him in, Joe. I don't need none of that energy.

Why were you consulting? What are you consulting us about? We're doing just fine. Andrew Barry is over here cooking right now. I think Andrew Barry brought him in. They say he's known for bringing something in. Maybe he's bringing them in to make himself look better than... No, this is all I'm saying.

No. Look how bad he did. I'm going to bring him in here and try and rehabilitate it. Rehabilitated. This is all I'm saying. I don't think bringing him. more cooks in the kitchen is what we need. We just got out of...

I thought you said he was cooking. Why would you need somebody else? That's what I'm saying. He's a long range of right now. He's my Gordon Ramsey. I don't need nobody else throwing in no damn ingredients or nothing. I like you doing what you're doing. We got the pedesta out of there.

So now I'm like, okay, you don't have no handcuffs. I feel like you're bringing in handcuffs, Andrew. I don't want it to be just on you. You did the draft last year? Amazing. You did the draft this year? I'm loving it. What the hell are you bringing in somebody to consult you?

I want nobody consulting you. I want you to be doing what you're doing. You and Todd Monkin, y'all consult each other. Y'all figure out what we want to do here. We don't need to bring in. We know for sure who brought him in. I don't know. And the thing is, I don't care.

Because I think that when you keep bringing in other consultants, other people, that other, no, we don't need that. you're the general manager. I'm just trying to see who's trying to sabotage it. That's all. Is it the owner? Is it the gym himself? What is going on? That's what I'm saying.

Do he have, this man been out of it for a whole year and you want to know. Nothing positive since 2014. I want to know what is it that you got. You got pictures of somebody. You got what you got. What you got? That got you back in here in a consultant capacity. And you ain't did nothing with it since you showed your hand and made Jim Harbaugh

get up out of there. and saw and showed that you couldn't do it. And then went over there to Jacksonville. I mean, yeah, Jacksonville and did the same thing. This one dumbfounds me because I genuinely don't understand why you would bring him in. I don't. We don't need more cooks. We don't need more people in there.

I like, Sosh, I mean, Andrew Barry, we got you in here. You're cooking. Do what you need to do. do so. It's a good point. I don't need to ask was it Andrew Barry's idea to bring him in? I would hope not. I would definitely hope it is not. Because if it is, that is scary.

That is scary. And then it's still scary for his job security if it isn't. It's a scary situation either way it go. He's cooking. I ain't go lie. He did good last year. What he did, what they were doing? He did good

last year. He got all them high drafts. He went and made it work. He made it, he made, he made, he made the, he made it count. Yes. This year, he got, he got some good picks. We'll see if it pans out. Yes. But if that's him saying, uh, I'm not too sure what I did.

I need a consultant. I'm ready to fire you as the owner if you did that. And if you're the owner and I'm saying, I'm getting a consultant because you ain't cooking right, then now you're sitting there like, is my job even secure that you got to bring somebody else in. Yeah. No, I'm with you. I just don't understand the fact that when you do have a GM, all these consulting people, I'm like, no, you got your scouting department, you have your general manager, you have people that run it. Omar, did Omar have a consultant? Omar, I got no consultant, babe. I mean, because you don't need no goddamn consultant because he's the GM.

He consult with himself. He consultant with the coach. Joe, Joe, Joe, Joe, Joe, Joe, Joe, Joe, feeling some kind of wave, by me. I'm just saying, when you got the organization, when I go over there to Pittsburgh, bro, they were always asking me, what's the difference between Cleveland and Pittsburgh? Up top. When you got your GMs and you got, what's my man was before, Omar? Kevin Coburn.

You got Kevin, you got Omar. You got dudes that don't feel, like when you talk about needing consultant, you're consulting with your head coach because we're putting this together. It's me and you and we're building this team and we're going to figure it out. The owner may be, you know what I'm saying?

But for real, for you got your guys. You got your GM and you got your coach. Y'all are building this. squad together. Y'all can be on the same accord. When you start bringing in more consultants, what is he consulting you about? You and the coach figure out what y'all need. All this extra, like you got scouting departments, all those people for show. But when you're just bringing somebody to my consultant, what are you talking about? What are you doing? Hey, man, this could be one of them situations where, you know, hey, they're not hired a new coach. He might not have been

too sure about the gym. I'm saying that's the owner, as the owner. And the owner is like, you know what, I need somebody on the inside to be all the way inside on everything and tell me what's going on and feed me the tidbits, what's going on. This could be a situation where he might be even trying to sabotage him. Ask your GM.

Ask your general manager. That's like a spy. That's what it is. You said spy. You said somebody to come and tell me what you needed to know, what you want to know because you feel like they might not be telling you the whole story.

Hey, you got to think about this, man. What's up? I'm the Hasselins, except I'm Harrison. I'm Harrison. I own the Browns, okay? And I don't know shit about football, and I can't do nothing about it, but I got money. I'm a billionaire. You think you're going to tell me how to run a business and who I want to put in there?

Hell know you not. You ain't nothing but a millionaire. I'm a billionaire. You'll do as I say when I say. Yeah. A lot of, you know. that control that comes in, you know. That's not what you tell you.

Oh, my goodness, Debo, this is just not good. They stress me out a little bit. I ain't going to lie. Hey, it's okay, man. It's okay. You should have knew that this wasn't going to be a straight pattern. We still got, it's just the offseason. We got time.

We got to get on to the football. Y'all doing this. The draft already done. Why is y'all even hiring you? for what? You telling me he messed up so bad you hiring somebody right now to help consult for next year? But that's the crazy part.

He didn't mess up. I'm just saying. Andrew Barry did not mess up. I know he didn't, bro. I know he didn't. I'm saying I'm just looking at it. I'm just, I'm just, you know, me, man. I got to hit all avenues.

I got to be able to say, you know, I got to be able to think. I got to be able to think unlogical when we're talking about Cleveland. You love when these things. things happen. I don't love this. Yes, you do. Yes, you do. Maybe. Yeah. You little. And I don't like when we do it. I don't like when we do it to ourselves. I like when y'all do it to yourselves. Because that means it's, it's, it's cell phone self-warfare. Like, y'all can't even get out of your own way.

that's the greatest. We're going to have this quarterback competition going on. We just need our ball with the ball. Beautiful, beautiful, beautiful, beautiful, beautiful stadium y'all got coming up. Beautiful. Beautiful. And y'all got, y'all got this going on. Oh, Lord.

Lord. By the time, but look, by that time, Shadour going to be our star. Thank you, thank you, Lord. Thank you for my birthday, Lord. I appreciate that. Lord, my shepherd, he know what I want. Come on. We're going to be nice.

That's your dog going to be in that new thing. We're going to be nice with old with old Ballick back there. Plotting it. Plotting the scheming. You know? I pray. I hope that it works out. But I just think that we don't need another cook.

Too many. A boss. You know what they said? What's up? They said they wouldn't go listen to you. They damn sure didn't listen to me because he said they wouldn't listen to you. I'm going to tell you everything that you want to know. Mr. Haslam?

What you want to know? Leave my dog, Mr. Hazel. Leave my dog, Mr. Hazem alone, man. And I think, I think Monkin went home at 8.35 p.m. He should have been there to 9.15. If I was head coach, I would be there. Come on, man. I'm tired of him that thing. I'm just saying.

Oh, man. My coach isn't that thing. I'm just saying, hey, listen, I'm just saying. If I was there, I'd be sleeping in the office. That's what he telling him. That's what he telling him. I got to get. You got to find out who hired him, Joe.

No, for sure. What do you mean? I'm hit Andrew. I'm hitting Andrew Barry. I got to ask. Hit him up. I have to. Imagine an Olympics where doping is not only legal but encouraged.

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