Nightcap - Deebo & Joe - Part 1: Cavs SWEPT, Knicks Advance to NBA Finals + Myles Garrett trade incoming?

Episode Date: May 26, 2026

NFL Legends James "Deebo" Harrison and Joe Haden react to the Cleveland Cavaliers getting swept by the New York Knicks in the Eastern Conference Finals, the latest Myles Garrett trade rumors, and much more! Download the PrizePicks app today and use code DEEBOJOE to get $50 in lineups after you play your first $5 lineup! https://prizepicks.onelink.me/LME0/DEEBOJOE Timeline:00:00 - Knicks ELIMINATE Cavs21:45 - Myles Garrett trade coming soon? (Timestamps may vary based on advertisements.) #Club #NightcapSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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prize picks, a preferred partner of the NBA. Welcome back to this episode of Debo and Joe. I'm your host, James Debo Harrison, baby, and I'm here with my co-host, Joe Hayden, please, please make sure you like it. Hey, listen, Joe, please make sure you like and subscribe and download where you get your podcast. Damn, Joe, what's you, Joe, what's wrong with your face?

Joe, how are you doing today? I'm slow-was up. I had a long day. I'm on my way home now. I'm in the hills, Debo. I'm headed back from a frustrating loss. It was actually crazy. I'm not going to lie to you.

I was in the building, you know. I woke up this morning. I had a flight to get back home so I could be in my house to watch, you know what I'm saying, to do the show. I woke up late, missed my flight, woke up at 8.30, so now I'm in the car.

I'm damn, I'm probably next to you. I'm driving from Cleveland back to D.C. And I'm probably in Pittsburgh Hills right now. What we are? Yeah, I'm in Pittsburgh Hills. I'm in Allegheny.

Headed back to my house from a belt to ass. Oh, no question. I was right there. Quartzside. I'm going to tell you one thing. Dan Gilbert did one of the most gangster things.

I've ever seen. I'm court side, Debo. You know, I'm court side. I could trip a referee. I felt like I was in my physique seats. Spike Lee was Roe 2. Kylie Jenner was Roe 2. That man, Dan Gilbert,

the fat Joe, all the people from the Knicks that came from New York and thought it was going to be sweet and sit courtside and laugh and ha-ha-ha-and-key while we was getting belted ass, they put Dan Gilbert did not let none of them sit on the front row.

So everybody was sitting in row two watching us getting our ass beat. I mean, like, that, you was happy? You was happier about that? You row one, get inside seat. No. I mean, look, it wasn't, it wasn't my choice,

but that's what happened. I was trying to figure out because Spike was there, and they was just, and then did not let nobody from New York. I'm just saying, I'm looking at it right now. I mean, Fat Joe plus 10 Knicks fans banned from courtside at the Cavs playoff games relocated to new seats. Fat Joe said he bought some courtside tickets to the game. And once they found out that it was super fan Fat Joe, he was like, hey, they look like you can't sit courtside.

They said New York fans can't sit courtside. He said they took the tickets away, courtside, after they purchased it. Debo, that happened. I didn't know how, but I'm like, dang, I knew I pulled up and my boys hit me because I got to the game, Debo at 8, 10. I'm like five minutes late. You know what I'm saying? I'm rushing to get there straight to the game. As soon as I get there, I'm calling my ticket man, red.

My good man's like, Joe, where are you at? Your seats are open. They're blowing my phone up right now. You need to get in those seats. I'm like, okay, my bad, Red. I'm hustling. I'm trying to get here. You know what I'm saying?

So then I got him. Did they refund the man? Did they give him his money back? What did they do, Joe? They put him in Road 2, I guess. I don't know. I was looking. I saw Fat Joe over there.

I saw Spike right there. I saw Collin him right there. But guess what? It didn't. Honestly, honestly, they had a better, honestly, they had a better time than I did. I would have set row 30. And we were the one by 30.

It didn't matter about the seats. I'm sitting, I had a great seat. Listen, Joe, this is what happened, Joe. This is what happened. You know, Fadjo was on ESPN. He was talking, and he was like, yo, quote, he said, he said, that's why I came to Cleveland so we can be done tonight. He said, I want this over with. And then he went to go sit at them seats.

And they said, get Joe. asked into row two or three that he bought. They said, we don't care. We know, I'm Danny Gilbert. I'm Dan Gilbert. This is my. I will give your bread back. You don't sit where I want you to sit,

and I'll give you your money back and still sit you where you're at. I lie to you not, brother. That's why that man, Dan Gilbert is a cold-ass owner. He don't care about none of that. I own the team. This is my house. If you come into my house, I tell you where you sit.

You're going to buy these seats. I give your money back. It's no, no, no, no, no. Caves only. Okay. I'm walking with Dan. If I'm an owner of a team and he can do what he want to do. Joe.

Yeah, all that. Hold up. Let's flip this, Joe. Let's flip this. Since this is so gangster. This is so gangster. It is. You go to New York.

Y'all about to sweep the Knicks. You then brought courtside seats. And they decide to sit you row two. What you go do? I'm going to get my bread back. This point I'm telling you, the owner of the Knicks, that's his house. So if I buy them tickets,

and then he's like, oh, that's Joe that bought them tickets? Here, take your little cheese back. So you said, you know, spend $20,000. You got $40,000, and they sit you on the second, third row. And then they give you a refund.

You're good with that, huh? I'm good with that. You have to see they just closed it out. They stand in the court to see all who. all having a good time and they can't even see you. All they see is your shoes in the picture and everybody else in the front row. This is what I'm telling you.

If I own the team and I'm going to make sure if I bought the ticket and you find out of you mean, you give my money back. As long as you do, long as you do what you got to do and give me my bread back, then you could you do it. Because guess what? You own the stadium. I'm not going to tell you how to run your stuff. You got it.

But I'm telling you this. Yeah. Man, why you even... Bro, if you don't want nobody sitting there that ain't... Don't put it on sale, man. Don't even allow nobody to sell it. Go buy it from them so you could pick and choose who you want on your court side floor.

Don't even put it on sale. Don't even allow it to be sold. Go and get it. Tell them you want to give them whatever it is. Like, come on. Debo, that's what happens, though. You know the normal... The people, when you have the ticket...

Hey, that must be like a cleaner thing. That must be a cleaner thing. That's junky as hell. Like, I ain't never heard of the Rooney's doing nothing like that. Hey, we getting beat, whatever it may be, we're taking away your level 100 seats that's right down there behind us because we don't want you to say, what? Yeah, that's how that's rocking. That's how dad is, you're cool with that, Joe, huh? You know what's so crazy, Joe, is I was like, I wasn't like this.

The people, the people were DM me because they were seeing what was going down. And they like, James, please don't go too hard on. Joe, let him live, blah, blah, blah, all this other stuff, right? And then they hit... Renno mishap? That's embarrassing. You know what's not embarrassing? Using FIG for Home Improvement Loan, a quick, simple, and transparent offer in minutes.

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Apple Podcast, or wherever you get your podcast. You're supposed to be a change, man. You're a man of God now and all this other stuff. And I started thinking, you know what? And I'm like, hey, they're right. I'm not going to go hard on Joe. So when you called me, Joe, I didn't even go. I didn't even go, did I?

I didn't go. But now, Joe, I'm starting to think, Joe, like, maybe I made a mistake. In my assumption that you would be a person that would be like, you know what? What they did wasn't right. I can see what they did. I can understand, but it was wrong. The man paid for the seeds. Like, what if that was somebody

that ain't never had an opportunity to sit in the framework of a game? He doesn't spent his last dime. He done paid everything he didn't have. He done saved up for this for the last 30 years so he could be sitting courtside for this game for the sweep and he going put him back in row two. I'm going to tell you this.

Dan Gilbert did not do that to just a random. He's not doing that to. Oh, he was picking. He was speaking. He knows specifically who they are. Spike Lee, whose tickets are these four? They're for Spike. Spike your ass in the front row.

Fat Joe, oh, that for you? You come in here trying to come in here and roar these Knicks fans? No, that's your ass in road too. Collie did was crazy. I'm like, Kylie Jenner, they're the most famous people. let me say something. Kylie Jenner and her boy and her dude, my man, her boyfriend,

they ended up getting up to the front row because my man, the cast fans was looking back like, damn, that's really collier. They switched. They took a picture with them. He might have gave some, he might have a couple dollars.

But he switched the seats and he got in the front row for show. So this is what I'm telling you, Dan is not doing it to nobody that's saving their money, any like person that's trying to get up there like this. Oh, like you. Who is the other 10?

Huh? Who were the other 10 that they moved? Brother, trust me, I don't know, Debo. Well, how do you know it wasn't somebody that saved up everything? Because the names and faces, there's a celebrity role. New York Knicks fans, the celebrity being on front row, being corsized the thing. And they were bringing themselves to Cleveland. And Dan said that's what you're not about to do.

You're not about to stop here. You've got to get the course. So it had nothing to do with the fact that your team played like trash, that they blew every possibility of winning the game. Didn't they run on like a 20-point run on them at one point? Like, when y'all down about 40 at some point? Debo, I'm going to tell you this. I'm telling you what was happening. It was bad.

It was bad. You know what was worse? You know what was worse? Listen to what James Hardin had to say. Hardin said the calves are better than that despite the sweep. Let's do what Hardin had to say. Play that Hardin for him. Reflecting on this series, how much better, if they're better, are the Knicks than you guys?

If they're better? I mean, I can't even, like, I can't even answer that question, honestly. You know what I mean? Like, yeah, it's 4-0, but I don't think we had a chance as far as our best shot. you know, from a standpoint of the circumstances. You know, obviously they just, they dominated us 4-0. But, yeah, I don't know if I can necessarily answer that question. Just because genuinely, I do feel like we are the better team.

But, you know, series-wise, you know, I didn't show it. So tough question to answer. Hey, Joe, this is the thing that I don't like about. when people make statements is it was 4-0. But soon as you say but everything you said before that and everything that you say after that, it don't mount to a hill of beans because the but give me the bullshit excuse

that you coming up with or belief, like he said, he believes. He's not saying they are. He said he believe that they're better. No, no. Like, Joe, what are he talking about? What are you talking about here, Joe? Debo, he ain't talking about nothing.

He ain't talking about it. I don't even expect every response, Joe. Matter of fact, hold on, let me slow down. Let me slow down. Let me, let me, hey, hey, listen to what your boy, Donovan said. Run that, run with Donovan. It's just hilarious. We've done something that we haven't done since 2018, and we're still going,

like, there's only Chris isn't everywhere. Like, we're on Kenny, right? But why? we got here like some people not saying Kenny or us believe but some people consider this like oh this is this is great we did it but we did it with Kenny we didn't just go out there and coach ourselves right so then people are going to be people people probably criticize me just as much and then James and then but I love Kenny we love Kenny we ride with Kenning and ultimately that's all that matters right like I know for a fact he's from a long eye he don't give a damn Like, you know what I'm saying? But it's just the world we live in. We could have made it through the finals and got swept. It was someone going to say something.

I told you, even if we won, there was going to be something. Like, it's always going to be something. Right. And it's always going to be something for people to say. But ultimately, we're in the thing of it. We're in it together. And that's my biggest thing. It's just people are going to be people.

And honestly, who cares? You know what I'm saying? We're wearing this together. Hey, Joe. That's crazy. You know what's so crazy? Your top two players? No accountability.

Your coach, no accountability. Nobody has no accountability. You know why? Everybody has got that old bullshit-ass excuse from the coach. Analytics. Analytics says we should be up. All the players, they feeding into that same bullshit. They listen into that same.

They feeding the same thing out. Your top leaders have zero accountability. Ain't nobody said nothing about you. You know what, man? We needed to do this better. We needed to do that better. They're talking about excuses. Oh, man, our legs wasn't it.

He's talking about possibility his legs not being fresh. That's crazy. You were up by 22 points in the fourth quarter in the first game with those so-called not fresh legs. New York was my fuck sitting over there waiting for y'all for a week. They just went on head and knocked the rest off in three quarters then jumped on your neck. Like, what are we talking about?

Yo, what got to be done here? Listen, one, coach, I think coach got to go. Again, he, I love the coach. I love emotional connection. No, what is he doing that's going to get you to the championship? What is he doing? He got you to where you're at. Yes, I understand that, but what did he doing that process once you got there,

give you you excuses and then watch you, say the same thing to the media just with different people saying it and different ways of saying it instead of taking accountability? Email, I'm going to tell you that. You're exactly right. The one thing I'm saying about my team right now is it's the leadership, it's the accountability, it's the dog.

We got to know, like, you got to stand on what happened. We got our ass beat. We got our ass beat, and that's exactly what happened. So all of this talk about legs, energy, execution. we got belt to ass. That's what happened. Debo, you got me? I got you, baby.

My thing is this, Joe. Why did you miss your flight, Joe? I know why you missed your flight, Joe. You missed your flight because you had to drink your way through it and you couldn't get up in time, Joe. You know why? Because the coaching failed, the execution failed, the leadership is terrible.

It's been like that because your coach has been terrible, okay? The mentality and the mindset of everybody is gone because of the coach and the leaders that you have that are feeding into what the coach is giving them. like you don't lost every game by double digits. What are you talking about? More talented? If you're more talented,

that means you were out-coach, outplayed, and you're giving a whole bunch of bullshit excuses. That's all that it is at the end of the day. And I hate to do that to my boys because, I mean, that's the squad, but it is what it is. When you go out there and you get your butt, whooped straight up. I was watching the game.

We was trying to bring energy. We can't do that if they're actually out there whooping your butt. My man, Thor Anthony Towns out there just manhandling you guys. Young boys, like, they're just out there giving more energy, more heart. My man, Jalen Brunson, I'm in the joint watching. And all, like, me and my Cavs team, me and my Cavs fans, We're sitting on their court side with the dudes behind us and they're celebrating and there's nothing we can say

because they're literally whooping our ass. I was sitting there watching and then it was just, it got to the point of embarrassing. Literally, we're down 30, we're down 40. My man, MGK, I seen him and this, like, he, I thought my man was about to shed a tear. Dead ass. It was not a good game.

It was bad for, as a plan, watching it, it was like, no, then when we see the interviews, though, after DeVos, it's like, what are you guys, we love you, but what are you talking about? They went out there, don't talk about your legs, you got to be able to take it like a man. Like, when I, we play professional sports, Evo. And now for me, when I'm sitting there, I'm a fan

and I'm watching and I'm loving it because I want the Cavs D-Wing. But when you get your butt-booked by a team that went out there and just literally beat you in all aspects, Outcoached, outplayed, the players was doing better. There's nothing. Renno mishap? That's embarrassing.

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So how did we actually come up with a name, Hey Jonas, guys? I honestly don't remember. I think it was on a call about what we should call it. Oh, we were thinking I'm originally calling it one of the early names of our band before Jonas Brothers. This is how you guys remember it going down? Yes. I have a very different memory of this. We were talking about a thing, a bit for the podcast,

people could call in and say, hey, Jonas. And then I wrote down on my little notepad, Hey Jonas, and offered it up as a potential title for the podcast. But thanks for remembering that, guys. Listen to Hey Jonas on the IHeart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcast. Just listen. We don't care where you hear it. Another podcast from some SNL, late-night comedy guy,

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At the time, did it seem like a crazy idea? It seemed very crazy. But I felt so desperate that I felt it was the quickest, easiest way out. Did you allow yourself to think about how it could go wrong and what that might look like? No. I didn't want to manifest that. I was trying to manifest success. Every family has its secrets.

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I'm like, nothing. The team out there is getting their butt-wops. Do you see New York? They are out there. All the shot, everything's going in. Everything's going in. Their defense, they're just stealing the ball from us. And we're not getting back on defense, no effort.

It just was bad. So I can't come on this show right now and say anything positive about the calves. yesterday. Okay. They took us all the way. They beat us down. Like, for me to sit here and say like,

no, would or could or should have? No, nothing good happened. I missed my flight because I had a couple of drinks after. Yeah. Because I was sad. I ain't done there.

I had a 6 p.m. flight. I couldn't know. I couldn't make it. Yeah, they said, they said Joe driving to Cancun to meet up with the rest of the doo-doo teammates. Hey, Joe, that's it. Listen, I'm going to let it go.

You know, Gay, that's the chat, Joe. Hey, listen, man, Amanda took enough of beating y'all. We're going to carry him on there in the house. We'll go on ahead and we go, we go stay in Cleveland, man. We're going to stay in Cleveland, because right here, man, we got a former NFL player, Chris Chanty. He says there's no way to explain the way things have unfolded in Cleveland this all season other than Miles Garrett trade is coming. He's saying, yo, it's weird because they have not given an explanation, a reasonable explanation, is why this man would defer 30 million, Joe. What do you think?

What do you think, what do you think? Do you have a point? I mean, or is he just, you know, he's just talking. What do you think? No, Debo, first, you tell you. Hey, hey. I was saying, when you don't think they say something, but you want me to say it first. But you want me to say it.

I know what you go to that. So look here, Joe. Look here. Please. You know me. I sit back, I look, and I start thinking. Like, you know what? I thought it was coming earlier.

But maybe not. Maybe not. But then they moved the stuff around and all that, then nothing really happened. But you know what doesn't happen since then? Your boy ain't showed up. He ain't even showed up. He ain't even met the man face-to-face,

the new head coach. He ain't even have no understanding of what's going on with the defense. nothing new defensive coordinator everything going on you know what that tells me is he don't need to know why don't he need to know because chances are he's not going to be there when it come time for the regular season or after june 1st you tell me what you think joe because from what you're saying you believe that everybody believes and you believe he's that good just come in there get the terminology all that other stuff and keep it running from training camp on um

with just no without missing a beat. No muscle, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no muscle memory to new terminology, all that other stuff. Because I remember now, you got a new D-coordinated coming in. So what he says in this terminology may mean something else in the other terminology, which you may get confused. But until you're actually in there, running it in and out, multiple. Okay. Okay. Go ahead.

You tell me what's going on. Okay. You tell me what you think. He's Miles Garrett. So he's always going to be Miles Garrett. I know. He's Miles Garrett. So this is what I'm saying.

With him having to be on the field and him being there, when he's there, he's going to be him regardless. He doesn't need to learn the scheme and all that terminology stuff that we're talking about. That's here or no there. What I'm trying to figure out is him not showing up, him not knowing the coach right now. it's more I don't know if there it's not a good look deepo hey hey listen

it's not out of question now Joe it got you questioning now Joe that man done missed one mandatory Mending Camp already it's another one coming up if he misses that one Joe what you go say then all right this one I'm telling you it's starting to look a little mess

okay you got me there you got me there you got me there him not being there for them camps I understand his mouths him not talking to the coach though at all is what's kind of throwing me off

it's starting to feel I don't know what to say Debo I literally right now Hey Joe it's okay use your words use your words and say with I'm at a loss for words Oh you're

I'm at a loss for words You don't want to say anything that may be controversial because of the controversial things that are happening that would lead you to maybe say something that's not in favor of what the Browns would like. Yes. Joe, as much as I would, you know, hate to have to tell you this. Listen, everything happens for a reason, Joe. nothing is by chance you don't just move 30,000 just for the hell of it, 30 million for the hell of it

Joe. Everything happens for a reason. Good, bad, and different. Hell, that's life. I had to go through hell just because of whatever it was that led me to the position that I may be in, you know, later on, you know? The more and more time

the past is right now, Debo, the more and more that I'm really thinking that the Browns are trying to, they're going to try to move. I think they want to move on for Miles, bro. I think they do. I think that Miles at the same time wants to go, wants to go do something else too.

He's been telling the Browns this for a while. Last year, he told him, I want to be traded. They gave him the duffel bag. So then, obviously, you're going to have to be on the team because you're a professional. They gave you the bread. You signed the contract. You told them that you didn't want to be there,

but they gave you an enormous amount of money. So now you're on the team because you have to be. You know what I'm saying? And now the offseason came. You were doing everything. And now you're not showing up. You drop the whole million. You know what I'm saying?

For not showing them mandatory camps. You're putting your, you're letting them know. Regardless, you're not showing up. But when you, when the season comes, you're going to come there because you're on the team. You're contractually obligated to be there. So you're going to be a professional. So when it comes to the games,

you're going to show up and you're going to ball because your miles scared. You don't want to play for the Browns. Obviously, you said it, and now you're showing money where your mouth is. You're dropping a whole other meal but not showing up to mandatory camps. You could be there, Miles. You were, you swan in his Debo like,

Joe, you don't want to say nothing. going to I think we're going to lost Joe for a minute you might have cut out Joe I think you cut out for a minute there can you

look good for the brown yes because outside hills man I'm in the hills I'm in the

burg head of D.C. And in the Browns and man I'm stressed out Devo honestly

oh yeah hey man Listen, man, the whole Cleveland situation got you stressed out, man. I was trying to be, you know, a voice of comfort, you know, today. And, you know, I see I'm going to have to maybe get you to understand that, you know, it may be something different, but, you know, me, I just don't see it no other way. You go, you go defer 30 for no reason. If it don't help you get to what it is that you want to do, which is you want to win championships, Joe. He wants to win championships.

He want to be known as the greatest, and then he won't even have the greatest trophy that you get from playing the game, the ultimate goal of the game. Like, like, he got a hat. He got a hat. He, like, he's like, you know what? I thought the money was going to work. It didn't. I went and I got the defensive player of the year. I broke records, and I ain't even happy.

I need a championship. And I think that's where he at now, Joe. Yeah. I think you're right, man. I think miles over. Hey, man. Look.

It's all right, man. It's all right. You got some more drink in there or something, man? You need another one or something. You need to stop, get you, you know. I need to get some. You need, like... I need some...

I'll pour you out, man. I'll pour you a drink, man. I need some electrolytes. Honestly, people are. You need some electrolytes? Okay. Okay. Okay.

Okay, okay, I got you. I get some water, some of that good water, some of that good H2O right here. I keep it on deck. I keep it on day. All the time, baby. All the time. Can I get that water? Oh, maybe.

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