Nightcap - Deebo & Joe - Part 1: Mike McCarthy expectations, Jarvis Landry GOES OFF on Stefanski, JSN GETS PAID!

Episode Date: March 23, 2026

Join NFL Legends James "Deebo" Harrison and Joe Haden as they react to the latest Pittsburgh Steelers updates regarding Aaron Rodgers retirement decision, former Cleveland Browns WR Jarvis Landry going off on Kevin Stefanski, Jaxon Smith-Njigba becoming the highest paid WR in NFL history after reaching an extension with the Seattle Seahawks, and much more!  Download the PrizePicks app today and use code DEEBOJOE to get $50 in lineups after you play your first $5 lineup! https://prizepicks.onelink.me/LME0/DEEBOJOE Timeline:00:00 - Intro7:45 - CeeDee Lamb on Mike McCarthy's coaching style21:00 - Jarvis Landry calls out Kevin Stefanski26:30 - Jaxon Smith-Njigba gets paid35:30 - Joe Burrow wants to Play in Olympics (Timestamps may vary based on advertisements.) #Club #NightcapSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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How you doing today, Joe? Brother Debo, I'm doing great. And actually, today's a special episode for me. My son, Jettee, stayed home from school. He wasn't feeling too well. So I got him in studio live. Just watching, you know what I'm saying? He got eyes on me.

So I got my young boy right here, you know, taking care of him, making sure he's good. So he was feeling good enough to watch, though, huh? He was feeling good. Look, look. Hey, hey, I ain't got no problem with it, Joe. Trust me. Hey, I ain't got no problem with it.

Let me see him, man. Put him on the show, man. We got a special guest. Come on in, baby. Come on, come on, come on. Show yourself, son. Show yourself, son. Show yourself. Come here.

My man. Hey, what's up? What are you doing? What's up? There we go. And you sick? Yeah. You sick?

Are you playing sick? What are you doing? I'm not playing sick. He's not playing sick. He's not playing sick. He's sick for real. He's going to be better. He's going to be better tomorrow.

He's going to be better tomorrow, though. Okay. You got a fever. You got a fever. You're running the temperature, son. He had a little temperature. That's what I'm saying. He really had a little temperature.

Yeah, hey, we can't be sending you out there getting everybody else sick now, you know? Hey, I see both you all got that gator on, though. See, look, Debo. Hey, them gators ain't do a damn thing, though, did they? Why you got to be like that? Why you got to be like that? Huh? You got to be like that.

I'm just saying, I'm still representing. We lost at about a buzzer-beater. Which is a tough game. Iowa got us out. The Iowa beat us at a buzzer beaters at a buzzer, three-pointed in the corner. Why was it even close? I don't, because it's March madness. It's March Madness.

Anybody can win. Anybody can win. That's why we play the game. I guess that's what y'all wanted to do. Y'all ain't even take a shot. Debo, listen, no. Come on, man. I got my son here.

Don't get me all hyped up. I'm just, Joe, I'm just talking, man. I didn't, I didn't, you know, I'm just asking questions. I see a lot of Florida going on over there. I'm just trying to figure out what's going on. I'm always going to rep my school Florida Gators win, lose, or draw. Okay.

You know how that is. You know, if you're wrapping your school, y'all are doing a lot of losing. So you're wrapping your college no matter what, ain't you? Yeah. Hey, we're in the tournament. I'm just trying to figure out how you go from winning it at all

to not even making it to the 16th. Look, always next year. Always next year. I would play the great game. I'm not going to take nothing from them. They did their thing. They did their thing. It was only one team is going to win.

And it wasn't us this year. Oh, we all know it wasn't y'all. I mean, come on, Iowa. See? Oh, man. It's Iowa, basketball, Iowa. Really? It's March Madness.

They made it to the tournament. They have good players. I'm not going to knock Iowa, man. But Florida, they did we didn't do. We didn't do what we need to do. But I'm still going to wrap him regardless. You see my team, we was number one seed, and it didn't pan out. But I was able to watch my team on March Madness.

Do you watch your team? Who's your team? You know what I'm saying? trying to go with my team. I'm in the tournament. I was there. I was ready. I was hype.

Ah. I'm just saying, Joe. I mean, I know what nobody's saying. Oh, man, I were about to go out there and do something, man. You know, you mark that down. It messed up your whole bracket. Bust my whole bracket. You exactly right.

Yes, it did. That bust my bracket. Carolina, North Carolina, who had them losing? Not me? I don't know, Joe. I mean, how many other number ones lost? I don't think no. No other number ones.

No other number one. I had a car. I had... Devo, leave me a lot. We need some water. No, man. It's always go Gators. It's always go Gators, no matter what.

Yeah. It's always go Gators, no matter what, man. Say, I understand that. Gators and Browns. You like losers. I understand that, Joe. Wow. It's okay.

Hey, ain't nothing. Hey, listen, man, don't... Try me, Jeff. Don't kill the messaging, man. You know what I'm saying? I'm just... I'm just... We got plenty natties over here where I'm at in Florida.

I got plenty natties, man. I understand. I understand. I understand, man. Joe, I understand, man. Let's go ahead. Something that, you know, we both can get behind because, you know, it's still a related, of course. Yeah.

That's something we could talk about together. Yes. Yeah. And my guy C.D. Lamb, yo, he tells fans what to expect from Mike McCarthy. He said, just coming in, he's a great time. As soon as he walks in the building, you're going to feel his energy. You're going to feel what he wants to do. He wants to go vertical with the ball.

And I'm going to tell you that right now, but he's going to do everything. He said he's going to tailor his offense and get things situated. But he's Pittsburgh down. Everything that he's done has been out of love, man. Again, that's another guy that I feel like I would run through. a wall for. This man said this about Mike McCarthy, baby. I love that.

You will wall for this, man. That's what they, that's what the man said when they asked him, hey, man, what is Pittsburgh getting in Mike McCarthy, brother? He said, oh, my God. A great guy. He loves Pittsburgh. That's my

man. I love Mike. That was his words. That's his words. That was his words, Joe. Okay. I'm going to take him at his word. No question. I'm going to take him as word. I think CD, I like the way he moved. I like the way he's vibes.

I think that he's a pretty good judge of character as far as coaching. Yes. And if he says that, I'm going to take it and run with it. And I'm thinking that our team, this is what we need. And the one thing I like is at the end of the day, Debo, defense, obviously, we're going to have to get our defense tightened up alignments, assignments, assignments, techniques. nobody running free, nobody getting blasted off their spot. So we're going to figure that out. But we ain't seen the ball go down the field in a while and really had a big

exposed to play, though. Huh? You know how you get the ball down the field, Joe. You got to run the ball well. You got to run the ball well, Joe. You got to run the ball well. Exactly. When he came in in the 21, he took offense that was ranked 17 in the rush.

I think it was 14th total offense. and he improved that rush offense to a nine and it was the number one total offense. He added the rush game to make the defense have to defend both. When you do that, you open up other things, but you got to establish the run. You got to establish the line of scrimmage, brother. You got to establish the line of scrimmage.

You got to stay ahead of the sticks. Yes. Once you don't get yourself in the position and be looking crazy in third and longs where they know that they're going to come after your quarterback's head, we're behind the six. No. When we stay ahead of the chains, they don't know if it's going to be running past. They can't stay too high. They have to drop a safety down into the box with respect to that opportunities, those one-on-ones that we need.

What do you say? They go to vertical game. They go to vertical game. I'm with it. I'm with it. Two big bodies now. Two big bodies. We got two big bodies going down field,

and both of them like to get physical in that run game, too. We can't forget about Mount Washington. I think Mount Washington is going to be a big, big part of the blocking game and the catching game. Oh, yes. Now, listen, man, stop. You make, like, firemuth ain't there. You know what I'm saying?

No, fire move there. Stop tripping, man. What are you talking about? Firemoof is a thousand percent there, and I know. And we're going to use him, too. Because that's the part. Whenever Fire Move was on the field, he was catching the ball. We just didn't use him enough.

We was using Janu a little bit more, you know. So now we got my man, FireMoof. He's getting paid. So now play him. We got Mount Washington still. So both of them, we got two. Perfect. Yes, sir.

I like it. Yes, sir. And see, well, it ain't nobody really saying nothing about, you know what I'm saying? What's the boy's name? Sebastian Joseph Day. that is an interior defense and lineman that we get up real stout in the running game. Man eats up blocks, okay? Hodes his ground, clogs up the running lanes, okay?

High motor do. He liked doing the dirty work. He liked doing the dirty. You know what that do, Joe? That allow your inside linebackers to run to be free. Because three, four defense is made for your linebackers to run. and make the place. And on top of that, Joe, he doesn't want to ship.

He won a ship over there with the Rams. So, you know, he knows what it takes. He knows. Bring us a pedigree. What are you talking about? It's there, Joe. He's there. And then another one, hey,

DeQuine Bristker, the safety, we scooped him. Mm-hmm. Physical. Tone setter. Yes. They're a football kind of guy. Okay? He could play in the box.

He'd listen. He got, he gives you that deep coverage too now. Yes. You know what else? Because he's so good. You know what making good, Joe? What's up?

What he got good play recognition. He reads it and he goes and gets it now. Okay. Okay. That's what we need. And this is what I'm trying to tell you, Debo. I think with the defense alignment and people being on their job and not letting the lineman,

let the offensive linemen get to Queen, I think he's going to have a way better year. When I go back and look at it, when he's, he's shooting his gaps. He's not afraid. You know what I'm saying? He's running.

He's hitting. He's going to do what he has to do. But I think some of the times when you get a free lineman up on you that doesn't have to go block, he's literally on you with an angle. Like, that's kind of tough sometimes. So I think if you, like you said,

if we get these D linemen that could really just hold your ground. Like, it's not for you to make the play every time. Stop trying to go. under people, like, you stand right here, and that's going to make Queen be free so he can be way more active, and he's going to make a lot more tackle so he can scrape and make play. Because he's fast enough sideline to sideline. He's not scary. You know what I'm saying?

So I'm just, when I'm looking at, I'm like, I believe him. He's 26. He's young. He's not. Getting ready for a game means being ready for anything. Like packing a spare stick. I like to be prepared. That's why, remember, 988, Canada's suicide crisis help line.

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So I think with getting a better D-line in front of them, more stout, making sure, keep a hands, them, keeping them free. Let him roam and run through there and pop the running backs, make plays on them, but it's hard. You get that guard on you. Like, you're trying to, you fight through your life. He's not even that, dude.

It's, I'm sitting here at my debt, and before I get to take a step, I'm back here with the D. Lyman and the lineman that he got pushed back by. And now you're trying to fit into a spot that you weren't meant to fit in. Yeah. You know, you got a guy now that is going to take two. They're going to need to to move him. He's going to clog up these running lanes.

He's going to make it difficult. He eats up blocks. He's not a guy that you go see crazy on the stat sheet. Why? Because he is a run game dominant. Casey Hampton is a dude that should be in a Hall of Fame nose. because you get an hall of the fan. But you won't see him because the numbers don't say it.

But his play, him being there, man, it ain't too many people that I think is better than him. I can't even really name one to be 100% honest with you. No, for sure. I mean, when you say that, Debo, a lot of the times when dudes are on the team with players and he might not get all the tackles, but it's like, if he wasn't there, I wouldn't have made my play. You know what I'm saying? he's in his position so then I can be in my position. So thank you, you know what I'm saying, for not being selfish trying to make my play.

You know what I'm saying? When you got your gap, I got my gap. When he comes into your gap, you're going to make the play. When he comes into my gap, I'm going to make the play. So when you have just dudes that are like players, team, team guys, this is my gap. I know he's not coming here. Somebody else's play to make. You know what I'm saying?

Those are just the dudes that it goes unnoticed for the stat sheet. But coaches and players, you know. Like you said Casey Hammond could be the best. And they're like, his stats might not show up, but no other, like he let so many other people run free and make so many plays because he's doing his dirty work. Everybody got some dirty today job, and especially when you're talking about the D-Lyman. You're not going to get all the love and stuff when you get the sacks and you know what I'm saying, but you holding down your job, the center, the guard, taking two, letting your lineback

and go free and just make a play. That's what teammates, like good teammates, good dudes, like you, me, people that watch tape me like this. That dude's a baller. I always like, oh, he only had 23s, it doesn't matter. matter how many tackles he had. He wasn't getting moved out of his way. How many MEs? Zero. How many missing assignments? Zero. The dude was on point. Every play. He did exactly what he needed to do. So like the splash stuff when you see dudes, oh yeah, that's all good. But there's 70 plays a game where this dude is literally just holding it on, holding his own, like locking people down so

everybody else can scrape and make play. So when you get dudes like that, like you say, these tackles that don't care about nothing else but doing their job, I'm not going to let these men get to my backer. Boom. Oh, my goodness. We love you. Thank you. You're going to make our defense so much better. It's not going to show from your stats, your numbers, but everybody else eating is because of you. And we appreciate it, big man.

So, like, that's, you need them dudes. Yeah, that combo block where, you know, you got the, you got the center and the guard, they go combo up to the linebacker. You ain't going to be going up, no. You ain't, you ain't leaving. You get off of them too fast. He's going to make the play and destroy it.

Mm-hmm. Mm-hmm. Ain't none of that happening, baby. Ain't none of that going down. No, that's in that D-line. They just dogs up there. It goes unnoticed, but do you need them? No question, man.

CBS Sports, I guess Pete Priscoe, I guess it is. He dropped us down to 20 in the latest power rankings. Who cares, whatever. He says, enlightened at a horrible quarterback position of the franchise. He says, they're waiting patiently on Aaron Rogers to make a decision. and that's whether he will play. Looks like he will. New coach Mike McCarthy has hope he does

because they aren't a lot of options left. Joe, we already knew this, man. But Pete, you ain't watching what's going on. He ain't right here. This ain't no breaking news. You must not have nothing else right about, baby. But it's cool. We get to talk about it.

So, you know, hot couple of seconds. That's really it. We know ain't nobody there. We know we wait in on Rogers, but we building everything around to make sure that whoever steps in there has a great chance of being successful because all the other pieces are in place. You build a team. You build a team.

And you know, obviously, quarterback is the number one position. But when you have other holes, you're just trying to get you the best team possible. So then when you get that quarterback in there, we said, A, Rod, you know what I'm saying? if you're all waiting on them. Mike McCarthy, who do you want? Do you like Will? Do you like, I know you like A-Roy. A-Rod comes here.

It's a smooth. It's a smooth transition. But I'm just wanting to see who McCarthy feels. I ain't worried about him, though. I'm down there. I'm getting, having a conversation. Mike, you know what I'm saying? Have me some face time.

Call at him. See where his head is at, Debo. See where his head is at, man. See where, you know, what we got going on. It ain't nothing but I ain't tribut. Why ain't you feel me? No. The draft coming up and all that.

Or the draft coming up. Pittsburgh School said, yo, they're about to switch to remote learning during the draft job. What do you think of that, you mean? I think that Pittsburgh is just being,

it's smart. Just a couple days, kids do a little virtual. They got a lot of people coming into the city, moving around. Solid. Let the kids have a little,

a couple days. They still get the learning. They still going to be having a couple of times they got to do. I'm not mad at it. I'm all for it. Yeah, you got to think about it.

I think they're anticipating what? 700,000 people to be in the city of Pittsburgh for the drive. You're talking about 700,000 people, an additional 700,000. You know how it is with just what we regularly have, bro. To get anywhere in the city, you got to cross over a bridge somewhere. They're trying to block stuff. That ain't no more than one lane, too, if you're lucky. Mm-hmm.

So you're talking about a nightmare, dude, like if you're trying to transport these kids and get them to school on time, they'd say, you know what? Let's slowly roll down. Let's just chill. Let's get this virtual. Man, a couple days. You know what I'm saying? And shit, they might not even get home at the school until about, you know, five, six, seven o'clock. That's what I'm saying.

If they did something like that in school, letting out it too. Yep, I think it's my move. I think in the NFL said they had nothing to do with it. I just think it's people making just normal decisions that's not, you don't got to overthink it. Common sense is not so common. So if it's crazy, I'm like this, no, they're just doing something that's like, okay, boom, that's smooth.

A lot of kids, there's going to be a lot going on. Let's just take three days. They'll be out of here and then we go back to regular schedule of programming. Yeah, that's easy work, man. Look, man, let's go on over here to see what Cleveland got going. I guess the former Browns wide receiver Jarvis Landry, brother. He had said something on this podcast about his time in Cleveland. And he said, you expect most of these coaches that are younger to be more personable, more reliable with their players.

And in most cases, it just doesn't work out that way. He also noted that after Stefansky earned Coach of the Year honors and the team reached the playoffs, the connection between the players and the head coach began to fade, Joe. It began to fade, Joe. Did you ever play with Jarvis? You didn't play with him, did you? No, I didn't. I talked to Jarvis all the time.

I'm probably going to hear me up yesterday. Okay. Yeah, I'm trying to get me on a, I'm going to go out to Miami and get on this pod. Okay, okay. I'm going to get him out on us. I mean, man, did win, Coach of the year, what was the 2020? Jarvis was there in 21. I don't know, Joe, what do you, what do you think?

of this statement or should I say of him actually just saying it, I guess? This is all I'm saying. We were just talking about who was talking about, who was just talking about Coach McCarthy? We had C.D. Lamb talking about his coach. Coach said, went away. He's no longer his coach. But he asked about him and he gave his honest opinion how he felt about the coach. When Jarvis Landry was talking about how he feels about Stefansky, the relationship

just isn't the same. He just feels, Jarvis don't got no reason to lie. He's going to be honest. And that's the one thing you're going to get from. He's not going to just bash nobody or say nothing for no reason. He's not going to make something up to get people to say, no. He's just talking honest. And that's one thing is just people, like, why would you say, I'm not going to sit there and talk about my coach's relationship while I'm on the team.

This is in real time happening. No, like, I'm a professional. I'm going to keep it as professional as possible while I'm playing. Like, why would you say this stuff now, like for people that say that? because I'm a professional. I'm not going to be trying to go in my coach that up. But once you're retired, once you're out of the game, and you ask me an honest question, now I can give you my honest answer.

And I'm not, I wouldn't do that in the locker room because I'm a pro. I know what it looks like I'm trying to keep all this together. The team is the team. That's going to be outside noise. Now it's like this. Oh, you're thinking about yourself. I'm like, no, no, that's why don't do you. Why don't you do it when you're playing?

Because I'm a team player. It's not about me. It's not about trying to get this stuff out, like how. my personal relationship is, but I don't like him. He don't really like me, but we have a job to do, and I'm going to go to work, and I'm going to handle my business. So then once you get out, and if somebody asks you something, you're answering it a little different, like, oh, no, that's how you, I'm like, yes, because I'm a pro, and I didn't want to make it a big thing. That's what you do. You go about your business, and you handle your business. Now, since I'm out, we're chilling,

I'm viving up. You want to ask me a question. We're chopping it. Now we're talking. I can really let you know what was going on, how I really felt, how the relationship was. You know what I'm saying? So I think that's what it is with Landry. I don't think it's no hate, no harm. The same way CD talked about good things about Mike McCarthy or whatever, you know what I'm saying? If he had, if he had felt it didn't type of way, I think he would have said, I don't know. Like, you know, somebody kind of rub me.

He was, he was cool, but not really my cup of tea. And it was about, okay, boom, like, I don't, okay, his relationship wasn't there. Certain people have different relationships with different people. So. We want different relationships because of how they interact or how they connect. Yes, yes, that's what I'm saying. for sure. That's.

So like my interaction with that person may be different than how they treat you and what what you guys got going on. So if somebody asks them how what happened, I think that's why. Yeah. Yeah. So here's the thing, Joe. Yes. You and I both know that no one is going to tell the whole and complete truth about what's

going on at an organization while they're there. Yes. Yes. And most guys won't even tell after they're done depending on how unpopular. Yes, yes, yes. Okay. And a lot of organizations go along with the popular narrative as long as it doesn't make the organization look bad because it's just easier. So for them to, you know, come out and say something afterwards,

Now everybody questions it because they're like, well, why didn't you say something before? Because like he was here, we're not going to do anything that's going to be more detrimental to our team and, you know, make it make it make it make it. Then I look like complete. And bro, it's been it's been that way and it's go, it's going to stay that way. Like forever. Like, like, what was the movie? Wilson. God Lord.

Focus. Okay. Where his dad popped him and he said, hey, you die with the lie, Mello, and you just might. Like, hey, they go die with the lie. No, for sure, for sure. Rather it's true or not true, the lie, they go die with it. It don't matter, especially if it's unpopular to what everybody else has been saying, you know, across the timeline. Brough.

Yes. Oh, we got. What? Yes, sir. That's that. Hey, that's that baggy. We got a little bit of news right here, man. That's the bear of the year.

How do you say that name? Jackson Smith and Jigba. Jackson Smith and Jigba is now the highest paid wide receiver in NFL history. Yes, he is deservedly so. Four year, bro, $168.6 million contract extension. Yeah, $120 million guarantee. Yes, sir. 42.15 per year average

and new money leapfrogging your boy. Jamar Chase. Well, 40.25. He got an extra almost two on top of that. You understand that? That man has a, that's a Brinks bag. That's a Brinks truck bag. And he deserves it all.

Way to go, J.S.N. Went out there, did that. Now, the crazy. The crazy part is, that's, that's the, you said, the 120 million guaranteed. That's we going to get, that's three years, 120, fully guaranteed. He did it. And now it's just the wide receiver market. It just keeps getting reset.

And you know, it's not if but when. He's going to be the highest paid receiver for about, I don't know. I don't know how much longer. Not before, not before the season starts. Two, three years, two, three years, man. No, no way. Debo. Who got to get paid next, man.

And the man had 179... Debo. Sorry, 1,793 yards receiving. He was averaging 15.1 yards per catch. 119 grabs with 10 touchdowns, Berk. D'Bow. Can I tell you something? Super Bowl.

Can I tell you something? It's not... It's the contracts. It's the agents. It's the next man up. It's the... If Pooka, I think the only... It's like Pooka is probably going to be right about...

Pooker next? Pooka about to get a deal right now. Pooka's planning a four-year, $4 million contract. He's on this rookie deal, and it's going into 26. They have to sign Puka. So this is a thing where Puka and JN...

It's going to last 30 minutes. Puka and J.S.N, it's going to last 30 minutes. Puka and J.S. They were looking... It's going to last 35 minutes. Bro, that's like when I signed my deal, bro. I signed my deal, and then a couple weeks later, T.S.

Signed his. Yes, Debo. That's what I'm trying to tell you. It's just who signed first. If Pooka would have signed before JSN, JSA would have went and got a little bit more to Puka. So I think it's probably to be right around, right there, right, the 43, 43, 44 year for Puka.

Yeah, it's just when you hit. This is the same. It's just numbers and the agents. Like how are you going, it's going to be right around the same thing. But Pook about to get broke off too. I love to see it. They deserve it. It's just when you're up.

But this is what I'm saying. The 42 million is the highest. And now we're looking at Metcalf's at 30. So it's just, I have to, it's just a tough time of receivers getting paid. It's like, was he worth six? Is he worth seven? I'm like, dude, it's 40, the highest is 42. You know what I'm saying?

So now it makes numbers look different. It's like half of that is 20. You know what I'm saying? So you're just like 20 million, four. Now people are like, oh, is he worth 20? You know what I'm saying? So it's like, you better be nice. Half of that.

They ain't nothing. That ain't nothing. But what is it? What is it? 900 y'all? You get 900? 800. 800.

You get 800? 900. Is 750 y'all is 20 million years? I should get 20. That's what I'm looking at agents and the players is like it just looks crazy as the numbers go. Because if you're the baller, if you him, you Jamar Chase, you puka, you JSN, you're going to be the one set in the market. Nobody's playing with your money. When you're like middle area, it's like, well, what am I?

Okay? What am I going to do? It's by Michael Pittman Jr. I love it. Oh, yeah. Like that. That's 20. That's 20. We got a steel deal. That's 20. We got a steel deal deal. Good. Good. Love it. Love it. Love it. That's half. That's less than half. Brother, we're dead.

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And listen on IHeart Radio stations across America and the free IHeart app. Listen, these numbers, man, I might have to come up out of retirement, man. Good Lord. I might have to come back. Damn. What miles over there getting? Miles? Yeah.

40? 40. You know, 40. Yeah. I come in there. What do you got 20? He got 20-something sex last year. I go on in and bring that down into a 10.

to a 10 bar, I get a 10 ball. I only got to do what a, I only got to do what a third, something like that? What is that? A half, not even a half. A quarter or something like that. I don't know what it is, man. How? But you're talking about you coming back? I'm coming back, Joe. Debo, look, this one I'm trying to tell you, though,

you know, they're not trying to pay old heads. Joe. They're not trying to pay old heads. Hey, I come in, I come in completely production orientated. Just give me third down. Hey, Miles gave him, what he gave him, 23 for 40? My wasn't gave him 23 for 40.

But like, this one's- All I'm on is 350 each set. See, look, this one I'm trying to tell you for real, though. Cam Jordan is still not, it's still out there. And Von Miller is still out there. Free agent still ain't signed yet. So I'm like, you just going to skip over them? Listen, hell yeah.

What you're talking about? Yeah. Listen, I'm coming in the end with minimal. They had 10 sacks last year. Both of them had 10 sacks last year. Wait, that's it. That's it. You give me for the low, low, all I want is 350 a sack.

That's it. 350 a set. Three 50 a set. And you expecting to give us at least 10 of them, though. Hey, hey, hey. You know, you expect to give a 10 of them. Talk to a joke. Come on, Debo.

Hey, Joe, what 10 of them things in? Me and 10. You're going to get you a three five. A little three point five? Let me. Go to you boy, baby. Get you a couple of, yeah, okay. I understand what you're trying to do.

Yeah, so, man. What are you talking about? I can respect. I'll give him 20s. I'll give him 20, basically, say 20, 40. You know what I'm saying? What is that? I only got home.

They're like two. And then damn there two mills a second. I ain't even tripping. I'm even giving a deal on that, man. You know what? I can't give him that much of a deal, man. Let me get 500 a second. Debo, you got, you guys, I love it.

I love it. You football ready, though. You football, can I be seeing you every time you still. Hey, hey, hey, playoffs, I got to double that, though. You get, you get, you get a lot. No, no, no, I need, I need, I need a, I need a whole ticket. No, no, no, no. I seen your, I seen your IG, bro.

You getting a little, you getting a little lighter. I seen that bench going down. 248, baby. 248, I'm still throwing up four in the quarter, though. Okay. Don't worry. I'm about to bring it back up. I'm about to bring you back up.

I'm talking about getting out there. Joe, that would 248 look like, Joe. Okay. That would 248 look like, Joe. Okay. Yeah, you look healthy. You look healthy. Okay.

You know? You know. You know what I'm saying? Joe, I just try to say, man, let me go on there. See what Mike McCarthy talking about, man. See what Mike McCarthy talking about, man. You know what I'm saying? If you were over there talking about $500 at the sack, I don't know if you're going to

put a field out there, man. Listen, I'm just saying. I'm just saying, man. Listen. Third down specialist. Third down specialist. Let me see what I can do, dude. Debo, I don't know.

I got to go, I got to come out and see it in a person. Yo, tell them you coming back. Hey, every pick, you won't have. Debo. Half mil for every pick, Joe. I'm not lying to my, I'm not getting out there. Literally. I can't.

You see the way my hips is set up now. I'm good. You got to work that out. You got to work that out. No, no, no, no, man. These boys not getting any, they're not getting any. No, we already talked about this, man. You're not getting any slower.

Make sure that you're able to go out there and do it. I'm, I'm a, but I can still, like, I can still get it. But, like, DB professional athletes, no, Debo. These dudes are still jumping 40. My vertical's still not, I don't know. I used to get able to dunk all. You know what I got to think about it. Yeah, because it's four or five.

You know what I'm saying? Out there playing corner on the island? No, sir. My hips. I mean, get your weight up and move to safety. Get your weight up, mood of safety. Man, coach, I done did my time. I'm good.

I'm going to go ahead. Deep, I got my tackles in. I got tackled 500, 500 tackles. Tackled. Done tackle them all. Done tackling. I mean, he had to do a lot of tackling in Cleveland because they was doing a lot of breaking through.

No, I was doing a lot of crack replace. Crack replace. Get down on there, Joe. Get down there. Okay. Yeah. You heard with the linemen. You were doing the saving tackles.

You were doing the saving tackles. You was doing a 12-yard, 15-yard tackle that. No. Loose through the line, all that, you know. No, none of that. None of that. You know what I'm saying? Hey, Joe, it's okay, man.

No, nub tight in. Huh, I'm right here. I'm right here. I need that. Yeah. I'm just, I'm just saying, Joe, I'm just saying. Look here, man. My guy, Joe Burrell, you know, he made it clear.

He said he wants to play in the 2028 Olympics. Ooh. Burrell said, I've wanted to play in the Olympics. I never necessarily played in the Olympic sport before. So when this got announced, I was pretty excited about it. The opportunity to win a gold medal is something that I've always thought about a moment like that for a long time since I was a kid. I think it would be something very special.

Joe, my guy is basically saying, yo, I'm going to have to go get a gold medal if I'm going to get something. And, you know, he's talking about flat football, obviously. being a quarterback. He was slanging that thing. He was doing some things. He almost shook one guy, you know. Yeah, almost. But, you know, do you, do you,

do you watch a little bit of it, parts of it? Yeah, they started doing the handing off and running. I'm like, yo, that's like doing 707 and running the ball. It makes no sense. I don't understand it. But they need to make some rules for that. Like, you can't just hand the rock. See, but that's the thing, D'Boebo.

That's the thing. It's flag football. It's their rules. It's their game. It's not. seven on seven. It's not. With the flag football,

you ought to be to go ahead and just grab him and then tear the flag off. No, what? That's the, we're not, no, you can't just nail since you want to be Debo

and you want to grab. I'm just saying, you got to like, listen, man, they're doing all the hip twisting and flipping and all that, man. Like, it ain't really flag football. It's just hand eye coordination football.

Like, don't call it flag, man. Just hand eye coordination. And now you got to just try and grab the flag because he's doing the hip hook. That's why it's called flag football because you got to grab the flag. Man, one hand tap, man. Put a sensor on them, and when you touch it, buzz, it go off.

I'm telling you this. Watching that makes me just realize, though, it's not, if they wanted to play us in seven-on-seven, two-hand touch, or that's going to be a different game. When you start having to be, that's hand-eye. The flag grabbing is for real, for real, the part that's like, that's a real talent. And also, the play calling,

to being able to set it up and knowing, like, the double passes And, like, doing that is a real thing that you would have to, like, if you practice it. Like, you just can't come out there and play with some dudes that have been doing this their whole life. And, like, know all of the hip twitching, the dropping. You can't jump. You can't do that. So these dudes doing their little spins and twirls and you can't grab them. That's a flag.

That's a foul, Debo. You're trying to just rough him up because you see him. I'm trying to rough him up. I'm saying, when you go to grab the flag, make sure you get part of his clothing. No, see, that's that. And hold it and make sure you get the flag. That's not the, that's, then you're playing, then you're playing contact, basically then. Do you know what I'm saying?

Flag football is more. I ain't saying, put your body on you. You are saying grab his clothes. You're stopping them. You could, you know, you put, that's how you put a little hammie. Didn't they pull Joe's pants to pull it off? Like, Joe, Joe, Joe almost got stripped naked about it. Flag.

I'm just saying. Flag. I'm just saying, Joe. I felt like it was entertaining. I just think that. that they know this game. It's not seven-on-seven. It's not like a regular football game.

The field's so much smaller. You can't run your normal plays. They blitzing right at you from the seven yards away. You know what I'm saying? So they know scheme. They schemed it up. They don't have to scheme it up. I liked it, though.

I ain't going to lie. I thought that the flag football team did a really good job because, like, they was dipping. They was jukeing. They knew they knew their little scheme, and they're nice. if they would have put some pads on, obviously you would have been completely different or if we play regular 7-0-11-7.

They don't want to play no regular football, man. No, they don't. That's why, but look, that's why we see. Let's go ahead in the Olympics to get real football cracking. Get real football cracking, man. Just like every other professional sport, every other professional, they had a professionals go and do the thing.

They don't create a flag league just so that they can be like, oh, it's what, what is it? No, whatever. I feel it. I feel you. If we had a real, we, Listen. Football, if we did a... But then...

Okay, never mind. Joe. Joe. Listen, this is what we go do. What we're going to do? We just go, go on head to the Olympic Committee. Tell them, hey, put American football in there and make it a sport, and then let's see, you dominate it.

Oh, we would definitely dominate it, though. That's for sure. They don't want no move. They're on flags running around. No. That would be... But... I think they're trying to watch the injuries, too.

I mean, would we let... No, it's the only sport that doesn't have it. But that's it. Football? You got rugby, you got soccer, you got hockey, you got basketball, baseball. I'm with you, D, but we might as well. That would be fine. What?

Volleyball. Name it. Having a football. Contact football. Yeah. Like, come on. We would dominate. See, that's why they're trying to cross over and go worldwide.

So they have it everywhere, then we can have an Olympic sport. Maybe that's something they're doing the smart. I don't know. But I know what it. It really is. They're just trying to grab that money. That will be fine. I need to talk.

I need to talk to Joe Burrow. You need to make sure. How would you feel about your, how would you feel about your quarterbacks out there? Do you think, you let your quarterback play? You let Burroughs. My quarterback play? Yeah. In what, flag football?

In the flag football Olympics. Yeah. Okay. Thousand percent. I mean. Are you going to represent the country? you go get him a medal? I mean, they can't hit him.

You can't touch him. So I don't... Yeah, I don't... Yeah, I don't see a... I don't see a problem with it, but I got... I need to talk to Joe. Joe Burrow. I need to talk to you.

I understand what's going through your head. Let me talk to me. Talk to him, Debo. I want you to see me, Joe. Joe, I understand what's going through your head. head, Mr. Burrow, let me talk to you for a minute. You're sitting there in Cincinnati and you know it's no way. God's greener and go get you a Lombardy.

So you see the next closest thing, gold medal. I understand it. You want to have something. You want to win something. And when you want to win something, Joe walks away from the TV, make like I didn't see it. leave. And when that happens, you try and grasp on to something so you can have something when you're done with your career. But if you want to have something, you know what you need to do.

Joe Burr, go up there, Mr. Brown and tell him, I love everything he did for me. I appreciate what you did for me, but I got to have something to show for my legacy. You need to be. trade it to the piss-puss dollars. And you know what I'm gonna do for you, Joe. I'm gonna go on down there. I'm gonna talk to Mr. Rooney. We'll talk to little Dan. We'll talk to Omar.

Talk to Mike McCarthy. I'm gonna say, hey, Joe Burrow won't come. Now you just tell me what Mr. Brown won't. And I reckon I can see to it that we get that done. You know why? Because it ain't never too late. Change colors.

Ah. Hey, Debo, I'm with it. Joe Hayden did it. Joe Burrow could do it back. Go ahead. Joe Hayden did it. That's crazy. But that was a really good pitch, Debo.

That was a great pitch. That was a great pitch. And only thing, only thing. on you know what now see this crazy i am all in for joe burrow 1,000 percent who wouldn't be all in for joe burrow if joe burrow came to the pittsburg stillers instantly it's time of it's time to win ship it's time to go ship what else is everybody talking about things to be looking crazy i don't i don't

give it that what you're talking about hey we got you come to pittsburg you ain't even thinking about a gold medal no more what you're thinking about lombardy after Barth, Barthie after Moe. Barty, he's going to LaBardi, then go get that goal. Call him the Barty Boys. That would be, that would be out. That would be wicked. Anyway, bro.

Anyway. He never too late. Anyway, it ain't too late. We need to go ahead and help. We need to go ahead and make that. Hey, they're trying to make it to where you could trade the draft picks four, five years into the future. Hey, Joe, if the rule passed, hey, go out there.

Talk to Mr. Brown. You appreciate everything you done for you. Like, my legacy. I don't know if you got no cheering yet, but you want to have your children something to talk about, look at it and thinking, say, go back to, my kids go with me back to the stillest, man. And they sit there and we go through and they get to see the Lombardists that their daddy helped win. We're hoping. They get to see that. Joe, we want that for you, Joe.

Joe, don't you want it? What is the chance? Debo, the sad thing is that you even got me entertaining it because I would, I want it. For sure, we want it really bad. But the possibility, what are we saying? You keep saying something like you know something more than me because I'm like, this is, if, you know, I'm all in. Hey, you got to speak it into existence, right? Okay.

I feel it. I feel it. That's right. The power of the tongue. Hey, the power of the tongue. You ain't lying. All right. All right. The power of tongue, Joe. I just, hey, I'm just saying. You're trying to speak into existence. I'm trying to, man. I just don't. I just, okay, I'm with you. Ready for a different take on Formula One? Look no further than no grip,

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