Nightcap - Deebo & Joe - Part 1: Waddle TRADED to Broncos + should Steelers bet on Will Howard? + Shedeur Year 2 Plans

Episode Date: March 17, 2026

Join NFL Legends James "Deebo" Harrison and Joe Haden as they react to Miami Dolphins WR Jaylen Waddle being traded to the Denver Broncos, newly acquired Pittsburgh Steelers WR Michael Pittman Jr. praising Will Howard and Mason Rudolph, expectation for Cleveland Browns QB Shedeur Sanders in his second season, the latest on Maxx Crosby's situation with the Las Vegas Raiders, and much more! Download the PrizePicks app today and use code DEEBOJOE to get $50 in lineups after you play your first $5 lineup! https://prizepicks.onelink.me/LME0/DEEBOJOE Timeline:00:00 - Intro05:38 - Michael Pittman Jr on Will Howard 10:00 - Shedeur Year 2 expectations18:20 - Bengals improved defense25:45 - Jaylen Waddle Traded to Broncos35:55 - DeAndre Hopkins underutilized in Baltimore39:30 - Maxx Crosby mending relationship with Raiders (Timestamps may vary based on advertisements.) #Club #NightcapSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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and I'm here with my co-host, Joe Hayden. Please make sure you like, subscribe, and download where you get your podcast. How you doing today, Joe? I'm doing great, brother, Debo. I'm doing pretty good. But honestly, let me get right into it. I wake up, you know what I'm saying?

Get ready for the show, do my little thing. I get a little chap in, see what the chat, talking about, and we got U.S. Citizen 69 that threw my whole vibe off this morning. Talking about some, are we going to have more Will Howard talk talking

about a third stringer? Every morning talking about third stringer, whatever, all right. And then he says, all these retired players pretending to be all in on Will Howard just to see what he can do. You were a thousand percent not have had

that same attitude if they were still playing, seeing it with Big Ben as a first rounder. Next thing, okay, Ben was taken over a quarterback that got hurt and was a QB for a football league that exited for one season, existed for one season. Do you hear that, Debo? I don't know what they're talking about. When Ben went in there, we had his back. What are you talking about? We went to the AFC.

Whoa, one game from the AST championship. Listen, U.S. citizen, he probably ain't even a citizen. Show me your, show me, show me, show me your paperwork. All right? Show me your paperwork, six, nine. Get out there six nine and uncover your mouth, boy. Maybe that way you can think. Thousand a second, because what's going to was what throws me off is all these

pretending. Nobody's pretending nothing. If I, if you, if I, if I, whatever I say is what I feel. Whatever I, that's what I'm going to give you. If I'm not, if I don't, if I feel like I like Will Howard, I want to give him a shot, that's, that's legit. Sometimes people go, I don't want to reach. If I don't see anybody that I like in the draft these quarterbacks, people fall in love with dudes. I don't have to.

You know what I'm saying? Josh Rosen was the, was picked like seventh or tenth pick before Lamar Jackson and why fall in love with these dudes. And he was a, and he was not good. And nobody says nothing then. So you can like who you like. You don't have to like who you don't. don't like. So I'm saying there's no pretending.

If I tell you I like, I'm telling you who I like. Because that's what it is. I'm telling you what I like to see. I like to see the boy get a chance. Tell me about it. That's what we're saying. You understand? We don't need to reach.

You know what? I might, I might block your punk ass. No, you know. You know what I'm saying? See, you know, got me into, Joe, Joe, I don't know why you did that, though. My bad, Debo. You know what, man?

I might have to go today, man. I might have to go today, man. You get the good love. Listen. My guy, my guy, Pittman Jr., he gave an endorsement to Will. That's what I'm talking about. He said, whenever you have a chance, well, he said, whenever you have a chance to play with a Hall of Fame quarterback, you always take that.

He said, we also have two really good quarterbacks here in Mason and Will. So whatever ends up turning out, I think we'll have a good plan offensively. and we'll make the most of it. Joe, love his attitude. He was in indie. The quarterback situation there was fluid. I'll say I think he played with almost, what, nine, ten different quarterbacks when it came down to it through his career.

So he has a great understanding of how quickly things can change in the NFL. But the mindset, it has to remain the same, okay? and that's what he should be saying. Now, me, on the other hand, I could say, well, yeah, he's saying we got two really good quarterbacks. I'll say, hey, Mason Rudolph, I don't know about really good, but that's, that's me because that's what I'm going to say. Now, if I was on the team, I'm going to say the same thing. You got to go ahead. You got to help you guys out.

You got to boost their confidence. What I got in Will Howard, I don't know, because I haven't had the chance to see what he can do in the NFL. I've seen what it did in college and I love what he did in college. So what he's saying, totally understand. And the possibilities of him having a Hall of Fame quarterback, caliber quarterback, come back, that's understandable. The knowledge that he can get of the game and the things that needs to be done, you know, from being able to play and get the ball and learn and all that under Aaron Rogers, that would be a great thing for him. And for someone of that caliber and you get to learn from them, yes. So this right here, Joe, I'm all for, I love it.

I understand it. And again, me sitting back, I just got, I ain't going to say really good on Ms. Rudolph. I just can't say that because I would be lying to myself and I don't need to lie to myself because I ain't playing though. Yes. You're exactly right. So this is what I'm saying. I love the way that he did. I love everything Michael Pimma said.

when he says Aaron Rogers, when you get a chance to play with a Hall of Fame quarterback, you don't give up that opportunity. And that's exactly what we're saying. If Aral were to come back, he's not going to be the backup. And what I'm saying is that's obvious. That is what it is. You know what I'm saying? A.Rall comes back and he wants to be here for another year.

You'll be back. You'll be the starting quarterback. You're not backing nobody up. You're Aaron Rogers. And you came and did what you had to do last year. It wasn't your fault. So we know you're going to be able to write the ship. You'll be back here with McCarthy.

So that's just respect. Him coming in the joint, he's played with so many different quarterbacks. He played with Rivers. He played with Wins. He played with Ryan. He played with Richardson. You said like nine, there's a bunch of other quarterbacks he played with. So he knows it's fluid.

You're going to be able to go in there and you don't control. You control what you can control. And what he can control is being the best wide receiver he possibly can. And anybody that's back there, he's going to be on his, when he needs to be running the slant, He's going to be on his distance, on his timing. If he needs to be, he's going to know his job. He's going to know his assignment. He's going to know his alignment.

He's going to know his technique. I love Pittman because when you're this kind of player, you're not like, man, no, not, give me the ball. He's worried about what can I do best to make sure that the team is good, not trying to make any headlines, making ways where if A.R.R. I would love to play with the Hall of Famer. We got two good quarterbacks in here. Will Howard, Mason Rudolph, you know what I'm saying? Whoever is behind center, I'm ready.

to go. Because I'm gonna control what I can control. I'm just trying to be the best starting receiver for this team, get the energy, get the vibes, do my part. You know what I'm saying? So I'm loving what he's doing, what he's saying, but at the same time, like, yeah, he's exactly right. Yeah. Um, look, Debo, I could say this is when he's given, he's giving, he's giving it. It ain't even that, dude. It ain't even that. I just saw something. You saw something else? I just saw something. I just saw something on the, on the dock. And I just hate that I have to even bring it up. No. It's the, man, it's the Browns.

God damn. We got to talk about the Browns, and I really, man. Yeah, you do. Oh, so listen, the Browns went on ahead. They added some. Some beef? You know, some people to the, yeah, to the equation, you know, you know, help out your boys, Shador.

Titus Howard, he said, I met Shadour. When I came in last week, he's a great kid. He has a lot of confidence. I like that in the quarterback. He definitely has the pedigree. He has all the talent in the world. I'm a big fan. I guess the Browns think that they could do something over there.

And I will say that. Come on. Come on. Tell me how you just, you know. They, they, they had to do something to hell with it. They had to do something, okay? Joe, they had to do something, Joe. The boy gave up 50,

one sacks last year, Joe. Two, hundred and forty-eight pressures, 167 hurries, 50 quarterback. Yes, yes. Running for his life. Offensive line was ranked second worst in the NFL. Almost behind, what was that?

The Raiders, y'all was, listen, if you go and just look at it, Joe, like, if you really go and look at it, like, y'all, y'all could have been last when it came down to it. But yeah, you know. So anything that y'all do, whoever y'all signed is going to be an upgrade, Joe. You got, you got, you got Titus out.

Okay, cool. You got him on a sit on what was $63 million, three-year extension. Yeah, yeah, he didn't give up one sack last year. He only allowed, what was it, fewer than two sacks in his last five of his seven seasons. But his run, game, blocking. is questionable at best. He has difficulty being engaged and staying engaged with the defendant. And they said if he pulled, don't even count him.

Don't even go on here and get him, Joe. They said, if he pulling around and get a block, don't even count. You're just trying to read into any negativity. Joe, I'm just telling you what the people said. Y'all gave Zion Johnson. We're talking to him. 3.49. And he struggled in the past protected.

Last year. Struggle. They say, it's new coaching staff. His run blocking. Run blocking was amazing. Run blocking was decent. I ain't go lie.

Run blocking on point. And that's what we start. I ain't a lie. They say top tier. Listen, when we get them percentile, 98 percent out. Yeah. Yeah.

Okay. But we ain't got to worry about should go passing the ball because he can't block. He can't pass. Once they get the run game on them and Juckins get the coming downhill on y'all, that play action,

they're going to get to looking crazy. They're going to be worrying about way too many other things. They're not going to just be pinning their ears back. It's going to be third and two. They might get toting on. You said y'all. I didn't mean, I didn't, man, I didn't. No, I didn't say y'all.

I meant anybody that the Browns were planning against. You said y'all. I didn't say y'all. I didn't say y'all. I didn't say y'all. I said anybody that the Browns are playing against. I mean, I was saying as an opponent. You know what I'm saying?

So, yeah, we're getting it together over there. And, OG, OG. Listen, y'all signed. What was this? Trevon Jones? Y'all gave that dude, what was it? Y'all gave him. The L.J.

L.J. L.J. Jans. He only started, what, four games, four games last year. And then in Chicago, the four years he was Chicago, the man missed 22 games because of injuries. Who knows if he's going to be good, man. He's going to be good. You know?

You get the line. I'm just saying, the best sign that y'all probably did was the other Jenkins. Y'all gave him a two-year-24. And that's because that man can play anywhere on the line. Guard, center, tackle, left, right side don't matter. But, hey, everybody else, they got some questions, man. No, Celo. I got some questions, Joe.

What y'all doing over here? He knows exactly what it is. Shador is, he's a confident dude, believes in itself, and I know that he thinks he puts the work in. I believe that he puts the work in. Here these fake stuff that he's not trying to watch tape. How is he not? Getting ready for a game means being ready for anything.

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The weather man, the weather lady is confident. They give you that report every day. How many times? Is it right? I'm just saying. All I'm saying is you got to get a man. Tools, got to give him some protection. And this is his second year.

So I just believe in with time, the new offensive, the new coach, Tom Monkin. I love the way that he believes. You got to have the first step is having a coach believe, man. Hey, man, how you go get a guy that can't block, man? You want to run the ball? What do you mean? We can run the ball. I'm just saying, man.

I'm saying, you got somebody over there that's struggling in the realm, you know what I'm saying? They said that. That's what they said. That's what the people said. Give him some time. Get our whole team, Nick, our whole, let our unit get together. Give them some time to be together. I must.

I need to put my prescription glasses on because I can't see what you can't see. Maybe you need some glass. I see good. I see real good when I put them on. And he's still, look, and that's the other thing I was saying too. And Andrew Barry, we're still not done. He's still, he's still moving. He's still moving.

He's still moving. We're going to clear Denzel. We're going to restructure Denzel Awards contract to give us more salary cap space and get more what we need. Wire receiver. And we're going to get another lineman. So you're saying he boiled his chicken first and then season that happened. Man, listen, he's not rushing.

He's not rushing. It's still, he's not even, it's still, it's still, when you put all the seasoning on it And it's marinating right now. He's still in the marinating phase. He didn't even get the, he didn't, he didn't throw it in there yet. Yeah. So he didn't even put it on the,

he didn't do it nothing with it. I don't know what he's doing it. He just, he's just doing seasoning on that thing. It's marinating right now. Okay. I ain't even know you could dry-aged chicken. I ain't know you could do that with chicken. I thought that shit got, you know, got rancid.

You probably do. You know, I, I ain't, I ain't, I ain't the, I ain't the cook. And he don't know how to cook either Shut up But I tell you what We got a chef over there in Pittsburgh though See You got a chef

I try to ask him And listen He cook American And any any Any cook some of that Latin food too Omar Khan Mm-hmm Omar Khan doing this thing

But Andrew Barry I'm trying to tell you We still got time He know what it is We got to get the receivers right We need to get like Christian Kirk wouldn't be bad Hey listen

I just seen something in the chat I ain't overlaught you they say it, Trent out there. Where is that? Trent. Where is that? Where are you at? Where are you at?

San Francisco. Williams. What's the name? Yeah, they say he out there. They say he out there. But that money will be, ooh, he's going to want to bag back. Yeah, he is. And that man came in.

We came in the same year, 2010. He's still out there hooping. You don't want a bag. Mm-hmm. Silverback. We're on ahead and talk to him and see what he's talking about. Ask him if you want to come on out here. Get away from all them EMF signals.

Come on out to Pittsburgh. That might not be. It ain't good for you out there, man. You're getting over. He is. Ain't good for you out there. Can't be having your body. Trent, free for real?

He a free agent? I believe so, brother. I believe so. Unless I'm misspoken. Chad, is he free, free? Let me know. Because that man, he's nice. Real nice.

Hall of Fame, first ballot. No question. No question, brother. All the way. Hall of Fame, first ballot. Now, let's go on over here to Cincinnati. Now, Jonathan Allen, he said this, bro. He said, this is one of the few places I can compete for a Super Bowl

and have a chance to showcase my. My telling me, when you see what they have on the offensive side of the ball, that's a dream for a defensive lineman. I think people would be lining up to play with a guy like Joe Burrell and the offense they have. Then the young guys you have on the defense and the pieces you're adding, I think, I really think this team is going somewhere. Yes. Man, it said he'd think this team is going somewhere, Joe. So you signed him, Jonathan Allen. It was Boy, Mephy.

I don't know how you said that name. The D.N. And then it was the safety. Brian Cook. Right? Okay. That is not making you a Super Bowl championship. Sorry, love the confidence, but that ain't happening.

This is the same team that defense was ranked 31st. 31st, they was giving up 380. Only people that was giving up more than them was Washington, and they was giving up 384. So you might as well say it was two last place defenses last year, okay? Giving up 147 in the run game, that was dead last. You was 28 against the pass, 233 a game. Along with that, you was only 28th on third down conversion.

Y'all couldn't even get off the field, okay? Giving up almost 29 points of game. sorry, but you aren't making up for all of that. Debo, if I'm Jonathan Allen, I'm probably going to say the same thing. When I was with the, when you, if you're looking, outside looking in, you're a great player. You play defense. Your job is to stop them from scoring. When you're looking at your offensive side of the ball, you see Joe Burrow.

You see Jamar Chase. You see T. Higgins. You see that you're going to be able to score. points. The reason why you're losing games isn't because of the, of the, of the, of the, of the, of the, of the, of the, of the, of the, of the, of the, of the, of the ball. It's because the defense side of the ball. It's because of the side. So you can speak as highly possible on them, like, offense is going to do great. We're going to score points playing with Joe Burrell, playing with Jamar Chase, because they do put up numbers. But on the defensive side, he's like, we got to come there and, like, him coming there. He's feeling like, now I'm going to make the change to make our defense not as trash. And that's what, that's why he's saying it. When I left Cleveland, when I got released and I signed with Pittsburgh, it was because they had Big Ben, they had Lavian Bell, they had Antonio Brown, they had Martavius Bryant. I was like, if I come there, I'm on the defensive side of the ball. My job is to help the defense stop. So if I'm Donovan, I'm saying the same thing because he's looking at the offense like, man, they're going to be fire.

He's saying, all right, well, look, if I'm a player, that's what I'm a say. What do you want him to say? What do you want him to say? No, are we going to be trash? No, your Alchemist is fire. You got to do what you got to do on the defensive side, making sure they bring the right pieces. I know they might not have it all right now. But if I'm him, that's what I'm saying too.

Okay, so who do you see winning the Super Bowl in the AFC North? Which team do you see winning the Super Bowl first in the AFC North? Like, who? this team this team this team this team number one two three and four who is that joe give me your one you say anything other than without you it's going to be a problem the first team that's going to win the super bowl and the division it's going to be don't say that's stupid don't say that stupid I feel like you're about to say something stupid who's who's going to say something stupid go ahead and you know who is going to be.

Who? The Cleveland Browns. Cleveland Browns ain't never won a Super Bowl. They ain't even predicted to win a Super Bowl in the next 40 years. I don't care who predicted anything. I don't care. I don't care what they predict.

Okay? I really don't. All right? All right. So who's second? Distillers. Who third? The Ravens.

Exactly. And who did like? Bangles. Well, let me take my, let me take my, let me take my, let me take my other hat off then. All right, honestly. Let me take my other hat off then. For real, for real. It is the Steelers, then the Ravens, then the Bengals, then the Browns.

Because when I really, the only reason why. Hey, y'all hear that Browns fans out there, man. Listen to Joe, man. Listen to Joe, man. He said, I can't lie on myself, man. Listen, my heart, my heart over here in Cleveland, but if I tell him, I stick on it, they're going to say Joe ain't. We got it.

Joe, listen, man, Joe, I want to stop you right now. You still had Cleveland dead last. Now, I don't know. I don't know. But you had Cincinnati 3rd. This right here is for my guy, Joe Burrell. brother it's not too late it's never too late he's still trying to think about this i want you listen i want you to think about this joe joe if they really loved you max crosbie's still out there

hey he's still out there and it ain't going to cost you as much as you think it is no more because he's still out there joe if they really loved you they'd show you Uh-oh. And the fact that they haven't showed you, Joe, means we got to love sitting over here already, Joe. It's never too late. Never too late. You still, you're recruiting.

Look, yes, please. We get Joe Burrow, then this putting the Steelers right to the ship. All they need is missing the quarterback. I mean, that's going to guarantee you. I'm not talking about Will Howard no more. We get Joe Burrow. I mean, nothing to talk about. That's crazy.

Dibo, what you want me to say? If you get Joe Burbro, what you gonna do? Be like this, no, we got a quarterback competition. Hey, man, you got to, hey, listen, man, go ahead and learn under Joe. That's what, Jay, come on, man, thank you. I mean, you're like, oh, whoa, whoa, you're gonna throw houses. I'm like, Dibo, come on, what you're gonna do? Hey, man, listen, man, hey, listen, brother, brother.

I'm telling you, like, man, you got just a little bit. I ain't saying you gotta go anywhere, but you gotta sit back and we gotta do you got to come a couple more, you know, go more. sitting there and, you know, learning the tool. You're looking like we got some little news, though, Debo. We got some news. We got jailing Waddle got traded to the Broncos.

He got traded to the Broncos? That would it look like. From Miami to the Broncos. That's, that's a good move. That's a great move for the Broncos. Listen, man. the altitude over there is something real. I, I, yes, I hear you.

My man, Jay, he's going to be, Waddle is going to be floating out there. I can't, I don't know, man. The way that thing, the way that stuff do me, that do me bad out there. See, man, that's crazy. It didn't even, I don't know. I must be, it didn't affect me like that.

Whew, brother. Blockbuster trade. Good Lord, according to Adam Schaffner, the Denver receives Waddle and Dolphins' fourth round pick, 11th in the round, and this year's draft. So Miami receives Broncos first, they got a first round pick for him, along with their late third and fourth picks in this year's draft.

Bleacher Report called Obtaining Waddle The Dream Trade scenario for Denver Broncos this offseat brother That much that much Wow Would you gave up that much?

I mean they gave up it was the first round pick And what? It was the first The first third and a fourth And they gave up They got Waddle and a fourth No they were yeah Yeah, Denver gave up a first, a third, and a fourth, and they got Waddle in a fourth. So they basically gave up a first and a third.

I'm more of the mindset of I can see when you're a team that, you know, I need a receiver, somebody that's nice. I don't want to go draft someone in the first round. Those first round picks, I mean, they're good, but I'm like, if you really trying to get an established player that you already know is nice and it's a need for your team, I like when teams sometimes go get it. So if you think this is going to be a first and a third, you don't think of one of these young dudes are going to come in and be like a waddle. He's going to be playing right now.

Do it. So I'm not mad at them. I mean, there was one step away from fighting for the, fighting for the Lombardy. When you were in those spots, other teams, if you're like, you know, you got so much to lose, you need those picks that you can build, taking time.

We're more than one step away. With the Broncos, them dudes are nice. The defense was amazing. Just looking at giving Bo Nix that they like them, they're just trying to help them out. All right, now we give you Waddle. You guys, you have a court on a sudden. You know what I'm saying?

Like, we're just trying to give you the weapons needed to see if you're the quarterback that we need. You know what I'm saying? Like, we're going to give you the guys around you. Now we know if you're going to get the bag or not. Like, it's coming to that time. Bo, are you going to be 60 million a year? Like, are you the franchise quarterback for us?

We're going to give you all the attributes around to see what it looked like. You know what I'm saying? So I like when Denver does things like this or good teams make picks. I mean, don't use those draft picks and just go get somebody that they know that's going to be an instant plug and play and tell like, oh, no, we could draft this dude here. You know what I'm saying? Next to you know, he's not good. He's fast, but he's, ah, he just doesn't adapt to the NFL game. He just can't get open. And we're like, oh, man, he looked good, but you know, Waddle, he's going to get open. He's going to catch the ball. He's done it. You know what I'm saying? He's at 1,000 yards.

back-to-back seasons. So it's like, I like when teams know what they want, they go get it. Yeah. Yeah, I mean, sitting back thinking about it now, like y'all was one step away.

Adnis could get you further. But they had the backup quarterback, too. Y'all was one step away with the backup. Yeah, I was about to say they had the backup. Your man, broke his, your man, ankle got right last play of the game. So, like, they're like, man, listen, okay, we're going to go above and we're going to give you whatever you need and more. I like that.

Smart moves. Yeah. I guess all right. No, looking back at it, I don't guess, you know, you ain't give up too much. What's the contract, though? He's still under contract? How many years you got to look? Or do they got to redo that now?

Did they trade and get him already without redoing it? Now you got to, now you, hey, listen, you gave him a little bit more power. We got to look at that. We got to look at the numbers. Hey, but look, but look, where do you rank the teams, Debo? Who going to get the Super Bowl first? Okay. Of course.

We did going to say that. That's a no-brainer. After that, it's a flip between Cincinnati and Baltimore. It could go two or three. It don't matter. And then the round. I lie. No, you know what? Honestly, though, it's going to be

my honest, honest, honest, honest. Depending on what happens. it could be because it's the quarterback like I said if Deshawn is our guy if Deshawn is not a Sean might not be the guy

Now look at you. It's our guy. If the door is our guy it could be the it's going to be the next you know 10 for Shell the new stadium Oh my goodness

that's what's happening We're getting the new stadium? The stadium got to do with anything. Yes, it does. Yes, it does. That's going to make them better. Just, I don't know. I'm just, something, something's telling me.

Because you can host the Super Bowl if you have a dome, so we might mess around and get the Super Bowl with the dome. Yep, I understand it now. What about Detroit? They got a, they got a new dome and all that. They still ain't been. I don't care what, I don't care what they did. I'm talking about we

I bet that was 20 years ago I don't care I don't care Rams did it and it came right to their crib so I'm just talking about I've seen it lately and what God has done

for somebody else he has seen it do it for them what you've done for others he could do it for me he could do it for me so he's so this is what you're saying is Cleveland go host the Super Bowl

you all go play in it yes that's see that see you're talking crazy but I don't know yet this I'm talking crazy. You're talking about Cleveland winning a Super Bowl.

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Because the stadium's going to be breaking ground. The Hazel, I got the email for the break ground of the new stadium. So I got to pull up because now I got to see where the confetti is going to be falling from, where I'm going to be at. I'm going to be on the sideline. That's what I'm going to be. So what year is the stadium supposed to be done? Ah, probably not too long, not too long.

Not too long. Was it 28, 29? 29. I'm going to get back to you with the, I'm going to get back to you with the Pacific. with the specifics. I mean, is Miles still playing then? By time... Miles for sure.

Here you go. Here's your Super Bowl. Miles for sure plan. By time you get the Cleveland, here's your Super Bowl. Miles is for sure plan. That might be... No, no, no, no. You know what?

Why am I being... Because now I'm scarred because you keep talking to me crazy. You got me feeling like... Like what I think is about to happen isn't really about to happen. So, listen, listen, listen, listen, listen to me now. Listen to me now.

You are a real life brown fan now. You have hope and belief and every year they're going to tear it out from your chest and smash. Because it just was the right time when the Browns was doing good and we could have just kept good old Baker. When we had finally a little quarterback that was chilling, We just gave him, could have gave him 25 million a year, and we'd have just steadied the ship and just been good to go. But we didn't do that. Then DeShan came, it got hurt, not his fault.

That plan didn't work out. Now we've drafted Shador somehow snuck down to the fifth round. Now Andrew Barry's bringing around way more talent, the same when we started bringing around Odell and Jarvis Landry. It started getting nice. get players around us, get your quarterback that can actually hit people around. We got 44 tight in.

Listen, I'm telling you, that's what we didn't resign Baker, but we're going to resigns your door once things start getting looking good. You're going to see, oh, yeah, okay, we got it here. Okay, now we're going to keep the quarterback. Now we just need, you know what I'm saying, the other pieces, the receipt, but we're going to get it right now. So, yeah, I'm actually excited about it because I think, Shador is going to be the quarterback for us, and now we know we just need the other,

build around other positions. We could do that. Cleveland has always had great defense. We got to score some points. Oh, and on to other news. So, D. Hop said he felt kind of, you know, underutilized, okay? So I guess first, a Ravens fan had tweeted, yeah, he said, if the Ravens are in the market for a veteran wide receiver, which I suspect they are.

They should do, what they should do is bring back D. Hopkins back to Baltimore and it's like what a catch I guess it's the thing right here but in response Hopkins said how many times after this do you think I was using the red zone when targeted I'm still one of the most productive but never complained with one never complained with my snaps and never will facts so well that's kind of complaining right there but anyway Joe what um What do you think of this? Because he's saying, like, he got the thing right there, got a little catch right there.

He was targeted, you know. He's feeling misused. He's feeling like they didn't do what they should have did. They didn't go how they were supposed to go. Obviously, I guess he took it down. He took the messes down. He later took it down. So, with that being said, whose fault is that, Joe?

Is it more of the OC with the game planning of it? Or is it maybe Lamar not getting him the ball? Joe, what do you think, Joe? I think it's a little bit of, it's a little bit of both, you know. I think getting older in the league and your role kind of starts diminishing a little bit and you feel like kind of you're the same player. I think D.Hop is still amazing player. Can still catch the ball in the radius, but you lose a step.

Still not the same speed, the explosiveness. You know what I'm saying? So I think for him, the usage and you can feel like you need to be getting used. use more, you know what I'm saying? But the team may not. You know what I'm saying? So I think it goes a little bit of both being able to be like just understanding roles, the way that the league goes.

And, you know, I don't think that, yeah, for all the time, it is what it is. You know what I'm saying? Like, he's still a good player. He's still a wide receiver in the league. But he's not the receiver one that he was back in the day. Yeah. I'll agree with you. What do you think?

I'm kind of in the same boat, but again, I feel like they could have used him a little more. I feel like he still had enough to get more than what they were using, you know, for. But I'm happy that they, you know, they didn't use them as much as they did because, you know, it wouldn't have benefited us that they did. But I don't think it would have really mattered because, you know, we got a nephew over there. So it really, you know what I'm saying? Like, you know what I'm saying? We go to wash things up out, you know what I'm saying?

So I ain't even, I ain't even tripping, tripping, but that's a little. That's, you know, it's the Ravens. And it's like, it's almost right now, I ain't go say like the Browns, but, you know, it is what it is. I'm going to come down to it. Yeah, that's what it is. But we go jump on over here to this Max Crosby situation, though. So, Albert Bree, is that what the name is? He had this, Breer.

Breer, Breer? Albert Breer. Breer. Breer. Okay. So he reported, he said, some of the fractured trust between Crosby and the Raiders was rebuilt organically last week when the team showed the five-time pro bowler that it had his back and reaching out and offering any help needed after the Ravens backed out. He said, it won't hurt Clint Kubiak's effort to build a culture to have someone like. Crosby. If Crosby buys

in and there's no reason to think he want, he has the potential to be what he's always wanted to be for the Raiders, the flag bearer and an agent of change. Joe. Yep. You think he'll buy in?

You think everything good? You think they just don't went on ahead and said, hey, we could? You think he's going to do it? I mean... I think Max Crosby going to do it. He's a professional. Professionalism. I think that if he gets back on the team and he stays on the team and he doesn't get traded,

I think his professionalism won't let him. He knows he got a job to do. It's a business, no matter what. Like, you get traded, people don't get traded. If you're back on the team and they're accepting you with open arms, you're not just going to be in there trying to, I don't think Max Cross would be in there, getting his bread, getting paid still, like trying to mess things up. That's just not the type of player that I think he is.

I think he's going to come back in there. You're going to feel some type of way. You know what I'm saying? As a human being, like, but I don't think he would just carry that in the locker room trying to sabotage something because his main goal in the day is to try to win games. I don't think he wants to lose games.

Winning over everything. Maybe after the season, he doesn't want to. You know, people work places where they don't like their boss, but you still going to go there and you still going to get the job done. I think, for me, I think he's going to do it. I think he's going to go there, would be able to be a professional, to get the job done, but all that extra rah-rah, like friends, homie stuff with the coaches

or with the general manager. But people don't even really kick it with the general manager like that. It's not your coach's fault. Well, they got two new ones, though. Well, actually, he likes, I think it was said that he likes the new head coach, Clint. And even if it's like, yes. So even if it's not your coach's fault, like, then your position coaches, some of these dudes, a lot of dudes in the building, they don't have no control over it.

couple people that was able to make the decision to get him up out of there and to trade him. But now since he's back, you're back. They're saying they're welcoming you. And I just think the professionalism part and you're here to do a job. And I don't think he would not do it. Like, that's just, I don't think that that would happen. Yeah. I'm looking at it. And like you said, he likes the new head coach, Clinton Mobyak. He also good with the GM. John Spiced, whatever that name is, along with his old position coach, is now the actual decontator. So he's the DC.

And then when you look at it, he's been doing this with, phew, bruh, he that has six different head coaches in seven years, bro. That's what I'm saying because I have a little, just being familiar, it doesn't really matter. You have a job to do. You know what I'm saying? You are a defensive end in the National Football League. I don't care what team you play for. Who's the coach? When you get on the game, the eye on the sky, don't lie.

That's your tape. That's why you're getting paid the top D-N money because you are professional D-N. You're a higher gun. You know what I'm saying? Like they put you somewhere. You're going to go wherever you're at on whatever team and ball out because that's what you do. You know what I'm saying? And so you wouldn't mix that up because end of the day, if you're going to go mess that up,

then they could start, no, he was just acting all crazy, wasn't coming to meetings, wasn't showing up, was being very unprofessional. No, Max, you have a name to uphold, you have a legacy to uphold, you're a dog. Don't let these people start messing it up and trying to throw dirt in your name. Continue to just try to play to win, play your hardest, do exactly what you've been doing your whole career that's got you here. You know what I'm saying? And so that's why I would look at him like, if I could give me any advice, just please do that. Because you already play for a bunch of coaches.

You know what that turnover looks like. You know it's the NFL. People are getting cut. People are getting chopped. People are not getting paid. Like, they're trying to find reasons not to pay you. So don't give them one. You know what I'm saying?

Like, that's all I'm trying to tell. Reason is not to pay you. He, Crossby had said on his podcast that if he acted the way he was, if he acted off the field, the way he does on the field, he said he would be in prison. He said, the second I put on my cleats, I cross, the second I put on my cleats and I'm across the line, I'm in a different environment. I'm thinking, I'm thinking about murder. Oh, man. I'm thinking about murder and everything.

You know what he means. Yeah, yeah, the second I'm off, I can turn it off just like that because you have to. I can't be like how I am on the field all the time or I'd be in prison. Yes. Do you feel that way? Do you got a persona that's on the field? Do you change? You know, like, you know what I'm saying?

Do you have a, you know, a different? I know I do. Yes. When I, when I, when I, my persona kind of changed. And I think when I first got into the league, basically, like, it was no name, no face. You're really out there trying to run through somebody. You're really trying, like, the beginning when I was,

we were trying to put people to sleep. Like, you were trying to, like, jump into. them and yugut them so they would go like at night night like it was called nightquil so it sounds crazy saying it out loud but that's the area that we grew up and that's just the way that we played football so it wasn't like you was trying to really like murder somebody but you like sleep like dude's saying that that just was the way it was and I'm like oh my goodness that's really crazy but that's the way that we played the game back in the day so like okay that that's crazy but when I started getting older and like I would say after like

like year nine, nine in the league. Once you start being a vet, things move a little slower. You can see what's going on. Like, you can actively know when you're trying to missile into somebody. You can really tell what type of tackles you're going. But back in the day, I didn't care.

You would still see somebody. You would see him drop the ball a little bit, and you would still come, and you can still hit him. And then the coach, I know I get two steps back then. He gets two steps. So now when you see people hit him within the two steps, I'm like, he saw that.

And he still ain't. No, I'm like this. You saw that. You know the two steps. You know that you can't avoid. And that's why I'm getting so mad. Like, dude, he's right there. That's a bang, bang play.

Why are y'all throwing the flag? Why are you? That is not, he's not trying to, he's there. It's nothing he can do. Yes. Like, he's there. You know, like, my persona, like, on the field, that's, I think that's why everybody thought I was crazy.

So, I mean, I don't, it's not thing. Look, I know. That's why everybody thought I was. It's a whole, it's a, because of how my own field persona was. They thought that was the same. Literally. Because especially for you, it's, you guys are up there and that's, like, I wasn't as I could see what's up. I'm smaller.

Y'all are big, big dudes that are going against other grown men every single time trying to impose your will on another man. You're trying to lift him, get him out your way. This is my space. He's trying to take your space. So you getting like, you feel like you're in a fight. You know what I'm saying? Every snap.

It's in a fight, bro. You're in a ruled out fight. You're in a ruled out fight. where you can't do something. Between the snaps, you're going hard. So that's how like, when you got to kind of doze on the end of a little crazy, you gotta be a little crazy. Because you're running, smack into another man, full speed.

And when we were thinking about, you got Debo thinking the same thing I'm saying, sleep trying to put you to bed. Yeah. Like I said, like the persona is a good thing, it's a bad thing. And especially now, like it was a good thing, it's a bad thing. because now, like, us being on this podcast, I'm getting way more people approaching now. You know what I'm saying?

Like, my normal resting, like, kill a nigger face, they don't work no more. You know what I'm saying? Like, I used to be a, dog, I used to be able to walk through the airport and just had a face on with nobody. No, for sure. Like, he looks like he doesn't want to be bothered right now.

No, man. Like, I see you laugh and smiling. Yeah, even back then when, like, they didn't know, they would send the kids. So they send the kid up there to get the conversation started, you know, to test the waters. I'll see it, you know, like, hey, if he's dogging my kid out, I know I ain't got a shot. So I'm going to, you know what I'm saying? But now, dude, I just, I just, like, I just get anybody coming up to me.

You know what I'm saying? Like, I'm like, man, this, that look I had ain't scare you. No, bro. They ain't stop you from approaching me. They see the, they see, they're like, oh, this man. They think, man, I got a soft to stop. Bro, I might have to stop the podcast, man. I don't know, brother.

Something I had to give, bro. I'm going to have to come up on here crazy and just tear something up. I don't know. You already exposed now. Hey, bro, like, put them to sleep. Joe, I ain't go to lie to you, man. Forgive me for this, though. Forgive me, I ain't go a lot.

If I knew back then, like I said, I wouldn't say, man, that they was going to find me like that. You said you would have to give my 100%. Br, bro, I ought to try to take him up out of here. I already know. Brer, I had to try to take him over there. I already know you would have. That like, ooh, we ought to try to take him move out of here, man.

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