Nightcap - Deebo & Joe - Part 2: Are Shedeur Sanders Trade Rumors Real? + Joe Thomas on Myles Garrett Trade

Episode Date: June 23, 2026

NFL Legends James "Deebo" Harrison and Joe Haden react to rumors that the Cleveland Browns are open to trading Shedeur Sanders, Browns legend Joe Thomas' comments on Myles Garrett being traded, and much more! Download the PrizePicks app today and use code DEEBOJOE to get $50 in lineups after you play your first $5 lineup! https://prizepicks.onelink.me/LME0/DEEBOJOE Timeline:00:00 - Joe Thomas on Myles Garrett trade04:21 - Shedeur Sanders trade rumors15:24 - Brandon Aiyuk posts again19:48 - Lionel Messi breaks World Cup record (Timestamps may vary based on advertisements.) #Club #NightcapSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

This is an I-Heart podcast. Joe. I'm going to give me. Listen here, man. We're going to check out with Cleveland saying. Hey, Joe, we got another Joe. Joe Thomas. Yes, sir.

Yes, sir. Hey, I guess he went on here. All of Fame, Joe T. Yes. Hall of Fame. First ballot. First ballot. First ballot.

No question, man. Crazy work. I guess he, you know, he went on and said that Miles Garrett, Trey was right decision. He probably did that after he talked to me. It's all without, you know, I think we got some sound. We got a sound? We got sound?

Yeah, I mean, I think the news came out. It probably caught a lot of people by surprise. I knew there was always going to be a chance that the Browns traded Miles, just knowing the situation they're in and the valuable asset that they had. But for Cleveland fans, you know, it's tough, right? Because for several of those seasons that Miles was here in Cleveland, he was like the one thing we got to cheer for, right? Last year, out of the playoff hunt for a long time.

But it gave us a reason to be proud. as Browns fans to see him chasing that sack record and to finally get it and just see the commitment that he had on the field to his team and to the city. It was incredible. So it was really hard to hear that he was traded, but it hurts everybody that

Miles is not a Brown anymore. But I'm not willing to accept the fact that we're only allowed to think that our ceiling as Browns fans is the cheer for a player who's having a good season or breaking a record. I don't want to lose sight of the fact that we're still here to try to win championships.

And when you look at the Miles trade to be able to get a great young player like Jared Verse, who's a tremendous pass rush who is a great asset to that team. He's on a friendly contract, saving money there, getting three draft choices for Miles, first, second, and the third. Like, it puts us in a much better position for the next two, three, four years as we're in this building phase. So as you step away from the emotion of losing Miles, you realize, like, this puts the team in a much better situation moving forward. And it was the right decision even though it hurts.

Joseph, right decision, Joe, even though it hurts. I was telling you that, Joe. Man, listen. I was telling the Joe's, man. Joe Thomas sound like Joe Hayden. No question. We sound the same. Hey.

Joe Thomas was there during the times, and he speaks from being a Browns fan, legitimately, and a Browns Hall of Fame player. So who else to understand what he's talking about? Because first ballot. First ballot. First ballot. Joe Thomas is not one to play. The man was a goat in Cleveland. And so he understands what it is.

He understands from the fans' perspective and from Miles Garrett's perspective. He understands where the team is right now from a fan side of you being able to root for your team. You have Miles on your team, Cleveland Browns. Defensive player at a year, 23 sacks. So you always want to have the best players on your team. No, because that's, you only want to have the best. That's a fan. That's a fan.

When you go to the game, when you go to the game, it doesn't. No, no, that's not all the matter. It doesn't hurt, though. It doesn't hurt. It doesn't hurt. It doesn't hurt. We like this. We got miles.

We got miles. Let's go score on offense and he still gets some sacks and we still could win. Not getting rid of Miles is going to help us when the game. You won five games. I understand that. I understand that. But because that's why. Shut up.

That's why. That's why. Did you hear that? I'm sorry, Joe. Yeah, I did. Your mic is right there. Your mic is right there. Oh, sorry.

So when Joe Thomas says these things, he's speaking out of both sides. He's speaking from where he's a fan of the Browns and you see where you wanted to have Miles and what he's done for us. And then from without Miles, what we can still get. We still get versed. We still get a friendly contract. We can still get money that we can use. We still get draft picks for the future.

Because right now, Miles on the team with those 23 sacks wasn't getting us nothing but those five wins that you. you keep talking about. So we're going to eventually have to make a change where we can get more players. Jared Verst can fit in the line, defense can start working, offensive pieces, draft picks can hopefully start balling in different positions that we need that the defensive end, those 23 sacks weren't getting us all the wins that we needed. So let's just try to get more.

So in the sudden time, it sucks. You know what I'm saying? Right. You know what else might suck, Joe? Losing a lot of games. Joe, Joe, that sucks. Y'all get used to that. That's not a problem.

But you know what else might suck, Joe? The Browns are looking at trading Shador. According to ESPN Cleveland's Tony Rizzo, the Browns are getting trade calls on Shador, on Sanders. The radio host also said he believes the Browns will not enter training camp with their quarterback room as is. There are talks ongoing calls about the availability of Shador Sanders. Rizzo said before adding,

I'm going to say right now, for the record, I don't think four quarterbacks are going to camp on July 28th. Nothing is imminent, but calls are being made, Rizzo ad. Joe, Joe, who is this? What's up with this? Is the radio chatter real? What's going down? Did you talk to anybody?

Yahoo is saying, like, if they do look at trading, it's the Jets, the dolphins, Cardinals, and Bucks might be a lander spot for my man. Joe, what's going on, Joe? Are you okay? Huh? Your Wi-Fi freeze up. This right here, Debo.

Yes, I love when you do that. Pips me off. This right here pisses me off, Debo. Why, Joe? Joe, go. Because this is the stuff I'm talking about where in the day, hopefully, okay. It's not okay, if it's just radio chatter, okay. but why can't we be happy for a second that we have a quarterback?

And now we're talking about trading, Chadour, we haven't even got a chance to see if you can play. We've been looking at your quarterback. Hey, Joe, let me, let me, let me, let me, let me, let me, let me, let me, let me, let me, let me, let me, let me, let me, let me, let me, let me, let me, let me, let me, let me, you for a second because this actually brings me back to what we were talking about just a couple days ago, Joe, how now Chador has got so much better and he's fighting for the position of starter. Was this an attempt to raise his trade stock, Joe? Are you guys, are your GM so diabolical he would do that? Joe? Huh? What's Joe? Joe?

What's going on, Joe? Are you okay? Joseph? Joseph? I don't know. I think it's just, I hope, I hope. It's just radio talk. I hope that it's just talking just because we don't have nothing else to talk about because it's still preseason still as it came and they're just talking about because they always talk about your door. What y'all was saying, why would why would, why would your ESPN

Cleveland, totally where? Why would he just go and say that out of nowhere, brother? Why would that be a thing? Like, they're receiving calls. You don't know. You don't know. Nobody's saying that about any other than they're not saying we're receiving calls about. Things come up all the time. Things come up all the time. I just hope and pray that if they really do this and the still is really good. I mean, and the Browns really get rid of your door, I'm, I would lose complete faith. Debo, I would lose, I will lose faith. Just because this is the thing. Hold up, hold up, Joe. Yes.

Listen, listen, you will lose complete faith, Joe? This is what I'm saying. That's supposed to be your squad. Yo, A1. Because this is what I'm saying. Hey, yo, GM. I'm going to, I'm hoping, this is what, I'm hoping this is not really going to happen. Because if we were to end up trading.

Hey, Joe, hold up. Then that's when I hope. Let me stop for a second. Hey, we crash the shirt, G& had on real quick. They say, I want to give you a second or a first for Shador, what you're doing? No.

No. That's the fan hat. That's the fan hat. Take that shit off. Why the fuck would I? Because I feel like, I feel like he's a franchise quarterback. Ooh. Hey, y'all, Joe is really pissed on.

Go ahead, man. But why would that? I feel like he's a franchise quarterback. I feel like we still haven't gave him a chance to. I'm a dumb ass, Joe. I don't know why. I'm sorry. He can.

do everything. No. I'm sorry. Go ahead, Joe. Mr. Hayden. What do you think? They give me a one or two. I'm trading this.

I'm a GM, Joe. I'm trading damn near anybody over there for a one or two. But how do you know? What are you going to know? This is what I'm saying. If you trade, if you trade them for a one or a two, okay, you're going to go,

are you going to go draft? You're going to suck this year anyway. We don't have, but let's say. saying we as if I was a Browns fan. I'm the GM. I don't already preface this. I'm GM of the Browns. That's like, hey, Barry is cooking. And right now he cooked up a story.

He cooked up a story that his head coach went along with and said, we got a controversy. Shador didn't improve so much. We can't say Watson can take it. We got to wait to train. in a camp. Raise the stuff. Raise the stuff. Hey, who won't it? Jets?

Miami? That's what you're saying. They just, they're trying to raise this. I'm not saying. I'm not saying, I'm not saying, I'm not saying that's, I'm saying, like, that's what it could. I'm just saying, this is, you know me, I think, Joe. This is what I'm trying to say with this one, this one, this one thing I want to ask about the Browns fans too, right? We, if you don't think, the Browns fans, if you don't think, the Browns, If you don't think Shador Sanders is the quarterback, I under, okay, then you want to move forward, whatever. Why not give him a true valid chance with weapons around him to go out here and see what we can do? And then if this season doesn't work, then we don't have him.

We drafted him. You ended up getting him. And I thought he'd get him in the first round pick. We got him in the fifth round. He ended up out playing Dylan Gabriel, obviously. Dylan Gabriel got the first shot. Didn't look as good as Shador did when he got his chances. And still with Kevin Stefansky, the coaches wasn't really rocking.

I think if you had somebody that's trying to give you opportunity, wants to help you out, like Cam Ward had in Tennessee. Coaches want to succeed their players succeed. So I think with Tom Munkin now, he's going to be able to at least give him a chance to succeed. You want your players on your team to succeed. So Deshaun Watson is going to have his best chance to succeed. And Shador Sanders is also going to have his best chance. to succeed. Browns, we do have a quarterback. We had Deshawn there. I don't think he's going to be a guy,

but we do have a quarterback under a rookie contract with weapons that we're trying to get around him. Why not let's see what he can do? We've been drafting quarterbacks. We keep, we got green. We drafted Dylan and Shador last year. So we're going to obviously, after this season, we can get another quarterback in the next draft. If Shador isn't the guy. But why not let's see? We got him. We have a quarterback that's been working. That's been trying to be a franchise. We had so many different quarterbacks that aren't the guy. Like, give this one a true

valid shot because he did do all that stuff in college. The quarterback that were looking to get from Texas Tech that threw for 2,400 yards, that did all of the gambling, that were looking to go get to Jennifer. Shador threw for way more yards and touchdowns to him in college.

And the only thing he didn't do was interview well. He wasn't nice to people when they asked him questions. So that's his bad thing. So get this. the fuck out of here. Let me see what he's talking about out here on the football field. And then if he doesn't,

if he doesn't improve on what I saw him doing last year, like the... Joe then froze up. Oh, thank. Hey, listen, that was listen, I'm trying to tell y'all right now, Joe was in his, he was in his feeling. He in his feelings right now. I'm so

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He go get it together. He go come back and he'll have time to go and say, you know, have a conversation with Lloyd Sable and say, you know what? I was out of pocket. I let my emotions, I let the browning of a possible situation that would be browned get me out of character. And I think he's going to come back and he's going to realize that he has to be browned. has a right to be upset. His expression of those feelings could be a little less demonstrative, I should say. And I think when he comes back, we're going to have a more light PG conversation, you know.

put her GM hats on, you know, with the side of a, you know, of a fan hat for Joe. And, you know, see what's really, what's really going on. But for right now, what we're going to do is figure out, like, the Jets. Who the Jets got? The Dolphins? Who the Dolphs got? Cardinals, I mean, who they got? And then the Bucks, I don't see, I don't know about the Bucks.

Bucks is one where they already got a dude sitting there. They got Baker-Mefield sitting there. I don't know about the Bucks. So, but the Jets, that could be a possibility. It could be a possibility. I mean, Cardinals just, they just, they just stripped, they just ship their boy off. I just don't see anybody giving up anything in the realm of, if it's not at least a two or one, I ain't taking it. I just don't, yeah, I don't see, I don't see any of them teams giving up that, that much for him.

And I'm not taking that little if I'm Andrew Barrett. So I just, I can't, I can't, I can't, I can't fathom that. We'll get back to when Joe gets here. But I want, I want you all to check out the, I guess he's still the 49ers receiver. but you're still with the 49ers. Brandon, I, you know, I can't say that man's lamb. Ayuk or something like that. He wants everybody to know.

Here we go. Check out the video. Chat. Look at this thing. Man, what's up, everybody? I had a great father's day. And before I lay down and go to bed tonight, I just want to say, go commanders. Go commander, man.

Go commanders. Raise him, man. Take him in. Fuck you talking about. Yeah, I don't know what's up with him. And then the while, I think George Kittle, he issued, I guess you could say warning to any teams interested in signing Brennan. We had that sound too. Listen.

The last time I saw a yuk was call it week six, seven, or eight, I don't really know. But I used to make it a habit of mine to go out early in the morning before meetings to watch them train because he always got there early. And I watched them run over 22 miles an hour and stop on a dime. So he still got it. Or at least, you know, that was a year, I mean, eight months ago, so I don't really know. But yeah, you guys have fun with that, I guess. Yeah, thank you. That's perfectly put.

I mean, have a lot of fun with that. All right. So have fun with that. I don't know if he was telling them, like, have fun with that information I just gave you. Or it was a subliminal. to anybody that may be thinking about possibly doing something to acquire him in a trade or something from the 49ers, whatever that may be. I know they said distillers, no, it's not happening.

Don't worry about it. We don't do that. We're not going to do that. So for me, I'm, I would have to just stay away from me. It's just too, the behavior is just too erratic. Like, you don't, you don't know what you're getting from one day to the next. I don't know if it's just because he's trying to get out of there, trying to get them to release him or let him go.

I think it would be a better way to try and do it without you making yourself look as if you got maybe a little more going on than what is, what is necessary to communicate that I just want to get out of here. Like, with the, I don't know, it's overboard. That's a, yeah, it's overboard. It's just a little overboard to try and try and get out of here. I think, especially with the last one, with the, I forgot, what was it, the belt, he was they was going to get the belt.

I don't know. What are these? say. Was it the belt or the bag? The dude messed up. Which one was? What was he saying? Was he saying the dude get the belt or get the bag? They go get the bag or they got to get the belt. It was the belt. He said bad. I think it was belt. Which one was it? I don't remember. Anyway, whatever dude wrote, it was wrong. And the understanding that I got was sort of loose canning right now, I would say. And to acquire that to your team right now, that don't make no sense.

I don't see anybody putting him in that room with the behaviors that we've seen over the course of the last few weeks, the posts, and everything else. Listen, it don't matter. But did Joe come back yet? What's that Joe? He ain't back yet? Okay. We'll go jump on over here real quick.

I guess we got a little bit of soccer. We got a record broke in World Cup soccer yesterday. So, well, football, as they call it, globally. Messy. Is that how you say it? Messy. Messy got messy and broke a record. Yeah.

I guess he is now the all-time. leading goals score in World Cup history with 18 career goals. Messi has been the highest jersey sales for the last three years, over a million sold each year. Wow. Damn, I knew I should have played a difference. I knew I should have got to some soccer. Six of his, six of his 2022 World Cup jersey.

So what? Sold for seven. six jerseys that he had from the 2022 World Cup game sold chat, chat, $7.8 million. That boy, jersey sold for more than I made my whole career. Right. And that was in 22? Listen, it's going on right now.

man, man just broke the record. What them jerseys going for? What them jerseys going for? That jersey right there might go for 7.8 by itself. Let me go and talk to Messy and see how he doing. I got to figure out where he is staying at. I got to get me one of them jerseys. Did anybody in the chat got a direct connect for my guy?

I need. I need. You know what? Let me, let me, let me, let me talk to me right now. Hey, hey. Let me talk to it right now like I do Joe Burrow. Listen, except this time I'm begging. I'm begging.

I'm begging. I'm begging. Hey, listen, I am begging for a jersey message. Just let me get, I don't want a jersey. I want that jersey. Lionel message. I want that jersey that you just won. And them two goals against, what's that?

Austria, I need that jersey because I'm just such a great fan, you know. And it would mean the world to me. No, fuck that. I need that money, bro. I ain't even lied to you. Okay? All right. I need all that.

Okay. 7.8 and 22. This is 26. Did you see what the price of contracts went to? Like, gay. Man, set, and broke the record. Now, listen, this is a world record. World, world, world, world, not just world.

Like, listen, they got 5.8 trillion fans or something like that, bro. It's only what, 7, 8 trillion people in the, like, they got all of them. Only people they don't got, they just don't know yet. That's it. that's it Lino Messy listen

call your boy hit me up I'm gonna hit you up whoever got contact to him get me a contact who you say you got him on speed die

where that you got him on speed die listen DM me DM me on the IG get us connected hold up let me check my IG right now

I think I might be able to message you. Let me see. If he hit me up yet. Chat. Y'all tagging. Y'all tag message. Tell him, hey, Debo need that jersey. Tell him.

Yes. Tell him Debo broke. He's down bad in these streets. Okay? Wi-Fi down bad. We need everything we can get. Joe, hell. Joe still ain't came back.

I don't even know where he at. He might need Wi-Fi. He might need something too. I think maybe, hey, maybe Joe ain't had like I thought he had. I don't know. I don't know. You know what I'm saying? I just, who knows what's going on, man?

Hold up, hold up. What we got here? Wi-Fi. He said the Wi-Fi out. All right, well, we go see. Call on the phone. Lino, hit me up, though. I'm texting Joe, y'all.

I'm trying to get him back. Chat. I'm trying to get him. back. They said he got hit by a tornado. Y'all trying to kill my boy? Now, y'all tripping. Hey, listen, it don't matter. Joe is in brick. Joe is in a brick house. The big bad wolf. That boy is in a brick house. He got, he got a basement that's two stories below normal basement. That boy got a bunker over there. I ain't even worried about it. I ain't even worry about it. Now, if you were sitting

over there in Mexico, yeah, I'm gonna, yeah, yeah, he stuck like Chuck. Stuck like Chuck without anything going down. Look here. What I want to check out, though, is why my dude over here, uh, Chas, what is that? Jazz Chisholm Jr. is playing second base with a, with a blow popper. He got a blow pocket in the mouse. Where the pitcher has? We can't, oh, my goodness, you got the picture.

We can't show the video. Damn it. Damn it. I don't think it's no different. That's green apple. That's sour apple. Blow pop. I know that.

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I don't know why this is a big deal. I think they chew gum and spit seeds and all that shit, right? Like, he got a, Like they always chewing something. I don't know why this is a big deal. And I'm pretty sure he ain't sitting there just holding the pop in his mouth while they, they're about to bam the ball.

You got to drop his hands down and be ready to go. This is in between. This is in between pitches. I don't see no problem with it. I don't see no problem with it. Hell, you can't do that in football, though. See, the reason you can't do that in football, you got a mouthpiece. And you can't sit there.

at no time on the field and make like you putting something else in your mouth besides that mouthpiece. Some people don't wear one, but it's very, very, very, very, very, very few and far in between now. I'm going to tell you why. When you hit and you ain't got something in between the stopping teeth from banging together, that shit hurt. Make it easier for you to get a concussion too, far easier for you to get a concussion. And on top of it, when you don't wear a mouthpiece, I didn't wear a mouthpiece one time. I damn near bit my whole tongue off. Like, the whole tip of my tongue,

it had a good three split teeth straight through it. I could see through that thing. I could do my tongue like this, and I could see two of them. Like, you don't want to play that game. And see, I'll be telling my son, he'd be like, I can't, I need to be able to talk. And no, dude, listen, go get, go to the dentist,

get you offended mouthpiece. That's go stick in your, your mouth and you ain't got to worry about it falling out. That way you ain't got to sit there and pop. No, it's going to be so hard for you to get that thing out your mouth. It's going to be easier just to sit it in there, drink water and everything else without even taking it out. That way, you don't take a chance of knocking, and you can chip a tooth.

You could chip a tooth. Like, that don't make no sense. And when it ain't fit it right, if it ain't fit it, from something. like the thing fly out, especially if you, like, you don't realize how much you grunt and scream and yell and talk. Like, when you, you hit somebody, I didn't know it either until, like, they'd mic me up. One time I didn't know they mic me up. I ain't let them make me up anymore, though, because I was saying something crazy. I was saying some crazy stuff. I didn't even realize what I'd be saying. Like, I wasn't a talker, but if somebody said something to me, I was going to crash out.

And then if they kept talking, I was ready to go ahead and we could see after game. Like, I had problems. Like, that's just what, you know, that's just what happened. So, like, now when they, you know, they, well, they used to, like, tell you, like, all right, you mic, da-da-da. And I would never let them mic. Like, no, I ain't, like, no, I ain't putting the mic on me. So what they would do is they would just put it in your shoulder pads. But I was always a person that I taped my own shoulder pads.

So when I came in and my shoulder pads was taped already. I'm like, yo, what is this? Of course, I peeled a jersey up, and they got out. I peel all that up out of there. They had a mic on me one time, and I was saying some crazy stuff. I don't remember everything I was saying, but I didn't like what I heard. It wasn't, I didn't realize I said some things that I said. So I didn't let them mic me no more.

Most of the stuff they get now is probably from somebody else's mic that they didn't heard or they got after that. It was probably from somebody else's mic that they heard just through the echo of whatever it was I was saying. Like, I don't know. Shit out. You know, for other reasons that I don't know. Look here. It do not look like Joe is going to make it back. And we are all.

ready at that point to shut down. Ladies and gentlemen, chat, chat, chat. Y'all talking about, thank God, I'm talking about Joe on the next tail hot spot. Joe on the next tail hot spot, stop it. Stop it. Do next tail even around no more, man? Oh, I know you old. You old as me, bro.

I don't even know who that is, but you old as me. I'm trying to tell you right now, bro. I'm trying to tell you right now. You are... Listen. I don't know. Tebow, T-Mobile ain't bad like that. You know what I'm saying?

It doesn't where there. Hey, hey, hey, listen, you're damn right. Hey, Debo held the show down for so for so. For so. Listen, man, I'm trying to tell y'all, this ain't the first time. I don't held it down now. Now, look here, man. It's a hundred and, it's 188 in there, man.

We only got 126 likes. Like. We need to see the like. Sign for you boys. And we need to get it right so, you know, we can get Joe back and get him back up, getting, you know, get him the proper Wi-Fi, you know. Like, what are we talking about? Well, we got, Hexan-2 dollars.

He said, subscribe or Debo go whip your ass. Hey, listen to him. Like, download, subscribe. Listen, Geraldine, hey, you 100% right. That is that Brown's Wi-Fi. You know, he can't help himself. Everywhere he go, he just wants to take what he has left in Cleveland, which is horrible, bad stuff with him.

Wi-Fi, I guess, is one of the things he took with him. You know? He went on here and, like, I don't know what's going on. Y'all said he headed the wing spot for some Wi-Fi? He added to the wing stop for some Wi-Fi. Okay. Okay. Okay.

Listen. Hey, Mike, Mike. Lazy-ass viewers. Wow. Wow. Look here. Oh. Ain't no poor Joe.

Joe knew what it was when he got himself into the situation. Joe rich is a bitch. He got so much money. He got money so tall. He makes all the, you know what I mean, fall. Look here. I'm trying to tell y'all, don't y'all feel bad for Joe. Only time y'all want to, y'all need to feel bad for Joe is when don't never feel bad for Joe.

Don't never feel bad for Joe. Feel bad for Joe, maybe when, I don't know. When the Browns lose, I just feel so good, I don't care. You know? You know? Listen, Raider, Raider, J-420, what you're talking about? He started talking about the Browns, and you know, God, don't like... Listen, the Browns.

The brown suck. The brown suck. He was just telling the truth. But he was saying it in a way that was ungodlike. You can, you can, you can, you can be corrective without being demonstrative and, and dropping F bombs, Joseph. Joseph doesn't do that. That's not Joe. Joe does not do that.

And you know what? I know Mama Hayden was watching. He got lucky. That guy saw it to, hey, cut out his Wi-Fi. Because I'm going to tell you right now, Mama Hayden probably all they're whipping his ass right now. Listen, just because you've grown, don't mean that ass who can stop. It just mean you escalate.

She's got to escalate. She's probably over there with a stintzor cord right now. Stensich cord right now. That's probably why he can't answer the phone. She got there. He was trying to get back on the Wi-Fi on his phone. because, you know, I don't know what service he got, but I'm pretty sure the phone probably would have worked or could have worked.

I don't know. Joe might just, and then he real deep underground. But somebody didn't say a tornado came, so I don't know. Listen, we go out to check on Joe to make sure, like, he all right, okay? So, listen, I'm just telling you, everybody know that, like, Joe is a 100% pure unadulterated man, Browns fan. Okay? You can't help itself.

And it's in its heart and soul, okay? So when you had that much commitment to a base, to an organization, it hurts. It hurts more. you know what I understand and when you do this and when you do this it it brings you deeper in

and now it brings you in even deeper because you're not a part of it you're seeing what I'm saying? So when you do that you don't even have no control so now you don't have no control and you get out of control

Joe Joe Joe was out of control today. I'm just saying what it is. And to all the Browns fans, you got to understand what he said. He didn't really mean it like that. He meant it in a more constructive way

than what it was presented. But he was just so distrapped and upset about the situation. that he couldn't form beautiful sentences that didn't have certain things, letters, words, F-bombs flying through it. Because I know that's not, Joe. And until, you know, we get a chance to talk back to him and getting back on here, obviously, we're going to get him up,

We're going to be set up with some stiller Wi-Fi, because that Browns Wi-Fi, that it don't work. Or maybe, you know what? You got the radios. And the radios that work, like, supposed to like work across the country. And I could get him a radio. That way, when that shitty-ass service he got, break down again, you all can hear him. And I could, I could just put him on here on the radio. And I'll give that to him when I see him next time.

Or I may just mail it to him. No, I ain't going to mail it to him. Because then if it don't make it to him, I end up having to talk to somebody I don't even know. Because I ain't going to throw it away. You know, I ain't going to waste no money. I'm just going to end up talking to somebody. I don't know if they end up getting it and keeping it.

And we're just going to have a, you know, we're going to have a CB pal conversation until we don't have it no more. Or he, I don't know. I just ain't going to waste the money. So I'm just letting y'all know that. But what, you know, what I'm going to say guys,

I want to thank you guys for joining us on this episode, Debo and Joe. We got 190 in the chat right now. We got 139 likes. We're missing. We're missing. We're missing 51 of you guys right now. Go ahead.

Like that episode. Like this episode. I want to see it go up right here with my eyes on it. Chat. Chat, get on their neck. Exactly. That's what I'm getting him. I'm getting him that CB radio.

I'm getting him to CB radio. I'm getting them to CB radio, but it's supposed to be like something else where it's supposed to go all the way across the country. So it got a bigger, it got a bigger reach, a longer reach. So we go see, we go see how I go. We go. We go see how I go. Okay. But I'm trying to end the show.

Y'all keep talking to me, man. Y'all can't keep talking to me, man, in the chat, man. Listen. Yes. Of course, listen, it is, listen, it's not a fair fight. True statement. Me fighting the old choice, there ain't a fair fight. Just let it go, man, let it go.

He let it go. I let it go. We let it go. We go let it go. hope you don't say that. I really do. I really do. I hope you don't say that. Because then that make me going to my bag and then that make, you know, I still, I'm fighting for my life over here. You know what I'm saying? I'm just, I'm fighting for my life because I'm still trying to, I just, I'm new into this. You know, I'm newer to my walk with my Lord's Savior.

So I'm like a baby into it. So I still, scared out of the little red dude sitting here, you know, he, every now and then when I get into my bag or overthinking, thinking and then people say things and they, you know, and I'm trying not to let, he, he, he, he, he, he jumping in my ear. Here, you said, he said. And then I got a, I got my, I got my little, my little white guy over here, a little white suit dude over here. He's like, hey, hey, don't, mm-mm, mm-mm, more God-like, got to be more God-like, got to be more God-like. And it comes me down, you know what I'm saying, it makes me, okay, all right, I hear you, I hear, I understand, I respect it, okay?

Hey, and it's a true fact, Browns do suck. I love this because can't nobody fight back to me. Chat, Brown's suck. can't nobody fight back? Joe can't fight back. Hey, satellite phone too. No, satellite phone costs too much. I ain't got that kind of money.

Maybe I tell Joe, Joe, I don't know. I don't know no more, Joe, because he can't even, he can't even get, we can't even get correct Wi-Fi. He can't even get the correct Wi-Fi. I don't even know what you want me to do. What you want me do? Hey, look here, man, I got to get up out of here, though. Look here.

I want to thank you guys for joining us on this episode of Debo and Joe. Please make sure you like, subscribe, and download where you get your show. Joe. Hey, we'll be right back here on Friday. See y'all then. Okay. This is an I-Heart podcast. Guaranteed human.