Nightcap - Deebo & Joe - Part 2: Big Ben's AFC North Predictions, Shedeur Sanders' Development, Steelers Memories

Episode Date: March 24, 2026

Join NFL Legends James "Deebo" Harrison and Joe Haden are joined by Pittsburgh Steelers legend Ben Roethlisberger. They discuss their favorite memories playing for the Steelers, give predictions for the AFC North Playoff race, and much more! Download the PrizePicks app today and use code DEEBOJOE to get $50 in lineups after you play your first $5 lineup! https://prizepicks.onelink.me/LME0/DEEBOJOE Timeline: 00:00 - High School Days  04:10 - First impression meeting Deebo  08:00 - Shedeur Sanders Expectations  11:00 - Joe Burrow be finish career as Bengal?  14:00 - AFC North Super Bowl Contenders  18:30 - Best Advice as a Rookie  (Timestamps may vary based on advertisements.) #Club #NightcapSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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You were a bucket, 27 points. I see that you average a game, your senior year. You played wide receiver until your senior year, and you only played quarterback your senior year in high school? Yeah, I mean, I played as a, I played a little bit as a freshman. So my freshman year I played, I got in the first four games of the season, I played three snaps, and it was to hold extra points. Okay. And so we were two and two, and we had a pretty good athlete at quarterback.

And so the coach was like, man, let's try and put him a receiver and put Ben at quarterback. We know Ben can throw a little bit, whatever. Because, you know, like early on, it's like just put the best athletes at quarterback. Yes, yes. Because they can run. They can do all the stuff. And so then it was, we were two and two. and the coach was like, let's try Ben at quarterback and this guy, wide receiver.

We ended up winning the next, what, six games, whatever it was, and it went in one. And then my sophomore year, I played JV. Like, our whole class played JV. So I didn't play varsity at all. And I played quarterback that year. And we had like our, like, our, like, our, my, where I grew up, there were three middle schools that all went to one high school. So everybody was talking about, like, our class.

Yeah. This class is going to be like a good one. So we all played JV ball. And I swear our coach, we went like 10 and O. or whatever, how many games you all play? And our coach, like, I swear he was like, we were his human PlayStation, like, Madden game, right? Like, he's, like, drawing stuff up.

Like, he's like, and we were scoring 40, 50 points on people because, you know, most of JV teams are, like, the players that aren't good enough to play varsity. For sure. So we were blowing people out. And then my junior year, the coach's son was a year older than me, and I just wanted to play. And he was a quarterback.

And so I said, man, just put me on the field somewhere. And so I played receiver. That's what I'm, okay, I had to figure out what happened, Ben. Because then I go, look, I know one thing, I was nice at quarterback in high school. I do for 27, I do for 2,700 yards, my senior year, and 38 touchdowns. So you put your athletes at a quarterback. So I thought I was like, man, I want to be a quarterback.

I look at your stats. And I was like, man, let me go see what Ben did. For your senior year, you threw for 4,000 yards and 54 touchdowns. I was like, okay, I was not that good. We had a lot of fun. I threw eight and one game. You, that's what I'm, yes. I'm looking at it.

I threw 38 and I was like, oh, I went crazy. No, like my stats are going to be around Ben's. I said, oh, oh, I thought that's crazy work. We had fun. You were Cleveland Brown. How you thought any of your stats would be something like that? I'm saying, coming out of high school football depot. It don't matter.

The pedigree is still there. Like, what are you talking about? The man playing quarterback, you playing corner. What you thought your staff would be like he is going high school? It said Ben was playing quarterback only his senior year. I needed to find out of the story. I had to be the coach's son. Somebody had to be above.

It's a lot of story where he didn't play varsity. Like I would have thought of him. The varsity quarterback. The coach's son, the coach's son ended up going to play wide receiver in college. And I went and play quarterback in college. So things happen. That's why I think, too, that I'm allowed to, like, go at Cleveland so much. Not just because I own them and my record against them, but because, like, I'm from Ohio, right?

Yeah. I played pretty well in high school. I went to Miami of Ohio in Ohio, played pretty well in college. Yes. And Cleveland had the pick before Pittsburgh. Now, I think, I still thank Jesus every day. Thank you.

I thank you one more time for not letting Cleveland pick me. But I'm still allowed to go. That's why I'm allowed to do that. If Cleveland would have had like the 22nd, or no, it was 11th, after 11th, I think I was, if they would have had a pick like after then that's excusable. You know what?

Hearing it from you from the horses from Ohio all of this stuff. You know what? Everything. Do you stand on business, man. You deserve to take off on Cleveland because they skipped on you. They could have had you. You would have had Browns helmets back here. It's their bad.

Yeah. Man. Okay. You know what? You got every reason to be okay. Debo, undersized linebacker. I don't want to hear about the Cleveland. Browns. They climes.

Cleans clowns. They just do what they do. They don't do nothing correctly. They knew what they should have did. No, me, yeah, that one, that's crazy. Anything that they should do, they don't do. Yes. Right. No, no, no. Hopefully the future is bright. Future is bright. They should have paid you, right, Joe? Yeah. Amen. I'm glad they didn't. I'm glad they did.

When I got to go play with my, then I got to go play with my dogs. I said, bring him over, please. Bring him on over. Yes. Hold on that. Hold on, Ben. What was your first impression of when you, you met Debo, like your first interaction with Debo? Well, again, I don't remember him in college much. Sweet Steelers.

He seen me, motor and he seen the running back. He was handing the ball too. Oh, man. No doubt, no doubt. You know, I think, so one of the best things about James is when people ask me, like, you know, what's he like? And I'm always like, don't let this persona, like, fool you. on you. He has, he laughs, he's funny. He actually has a kind heart. Yes. You know, like he actually

is, but until you get to know that, you think he is that. I guess Ben, like what you see. I guess. We appreciate you coming on the show. Yes. Yes. The teddy bear. Approach it. Yes, he is. He is. But, but until he let you in that, it's, it's definitely intimidating. you just kind of stay out the way like really until you get to know him and then it's just like man you just you enjoy who he is like I got to see

firsthand every day that man worked and I think people people will talk about him in the sense of man his weight room and the strength and this and the other I'll say man I'd put that at like the fourth or fifth most impressive thing that he can do you know what I'm saying like him as a teammate is incredibly just like

the person is he's always he's there for you and I know he puts on his face and acts like he's the super tough guy and he is but he's there for you as a teammate and a brother and I love that about him his work ethic um the fact that he would go about his day and his craft and like just the little nuanced things and I think a lot of that probably came I'm speaking for him and he's on here which is weird but I think the the that he could speak for too is it probably is some of that like underappreciated undersized you're this and it's like no what I'm gonna prove you all wrong and he made it.

Like he made it, but he never acted like he made it. And so I think that just drove him every day. And we went through phases in Pittsburgh of where the defense was so good, it made us better on offense, right? I'd like to think that we were good on offense at times and made the defense good.

Watching and going against James every single day and knowing when he came off my blindside, like, he didn't have to like even touch you when he came by you in practice. Obviously he's not allowed to touch the quarterback, this and the other. I tap being on the butt. He would go by and he would do that or he would just be like,

like, like, like, like, just enough. Like, and I'd be, and you throw the ball and I'm like, you didn't get me. He'd be like, okay. And he wouldn't, he didn't have to argue with you, you know, because he knew what was there. And I respected that man every day and still do with, with the most utmost respect for that guy. Oh, man.

Thank you, brother. I appreciate you, man. Come on. I appreciate them flowers, but, you know. You know what I'm saying? It go both ways. We've got a lot of respect for you, too. You know what I'm saying?

You know, especially with you, you know, going ahead and not being able to get that ball off, getting your boy into, you know, into the league that started off, you know, five sacks on you all that, you know, gave it to me. I mean, you was running for your life, you know, remember when I picked you up on that last one and I dumped you. You just like, ah, you got to go down. Yeah, no, I remember. I don't remember you ever getting a sack outside the pocket, though. Like, I thought they're on the pocket because you weren't, you know, you got a great burst. You was running.

It doesn't last long. You was running. Yeah, he's good, 10-yard bursts. There's nitrous bursts that's gone quick. Like, it runs like a video game. Dude. Hey, listen. Listen, yep.

This is what you need to do. I blow a tire. That game is why Cleveland didn't pick you up. You need to credit me for you not going to Cleveland. Hey, thank you. Yes, you will. Thank you. In my prayers, and I'm going to thank Jesus and you.

Yes, yes. All right, all right, all right, all right. All right, all right, all right. All right. Cleveland, seriously talking about it. How do you feel about my boy Chador, big man? How do you feel about Chador? It's typical. It's typical Cleveland.

Like, you're drafting two quarterbacks, like in the same draft. I mean, I don't understand what they're doing. Okay. Kind of. Yeah, respectfully, kind of. Again, I will never, I don't like to judge quarterbacks good or bad within the first three years. Because I think too many times we give our flowers to guys and it puts this unnecessary pressure on guys.

And a lot of guys come in the league and are really good their first year. It can be really good the second year. And then all of a sudden, defense has started to figure it out. I used Dick LeBoe as an example. Go ahead and beat Dick LeBowell the first time. It might happen. I bet you it's not going to happen the second time or the third time. And if it is, then you might be a good.

Then you have a chance to be really good. So you got to show me for three, maybe four years. There's a couple of exceptions. I think like I said after, I think the second or third year. I thought, okay, Joe Burroughs going to be a, he's going to be a player now. You know, certain guys, you kind of can feel it. Yeah.

But there's some guys that like, okay, I might need four years because, again, there's just too many factors involved. So I will reserve judgment or my opinion on Chador until, you know, give me a little more time down the road. Okay. So you're saying we need to, thank you. Because I'm saying I think he's, he's a, I think he should have been drafted in the first round. This is what I believe. So now, we have to give him the same thing. He's not going to just be able to go out there and recreate the wheel.

When you went to Pittsburgh, you said you had a defense, you had an offense, you had people around you. They didn't weren't asking you to go out there and just go crazy. I've no sure. That was the same. If he was put in that situation, he would be able to succeed. Right now, I'm looking for the Browns to get the offensive line. We got the running back. We have a good tight end.

We need weapons on the outside. Our defense has always been solid. On the offensive side, we haven't been able to put up points. When I was there, Ben, we will always play against you guys. got defense, we would out there hooping and we would never be able to get points. You need to score average over 17. We could never average over 20 points. So you get three touchdowns.

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And Kevin Stefansky. If your coach doesn't want you to really see, he's not really rocking with you. That relationship didn't look too good to me. So, like, you get a coordinator that believes in you, calling some plays that it's, Debo, I don't, Debo, get Debo out of here. But you do hear what I'm saying, no, Ben. Like, I respect what you're saying because you can't really judge him yet. You got to give him a legit team, so then you can give him a chance.

Listen, listen. Hey, Ben, let me go back. to that Joe Burrow, that Joe Burrow. Hey, Ben, I've been talking. I've been doing a lot of talking to Joe Burrow. He's been talking. And I've been conversating with him on here on a, you know, weekly, byweekly basis. And, you know, we've been having conversations.

I talked to him on the phone yesterday. And we've been talking about him, you know, he'll go go up there, talk to Mr. Brown and see what he need to do to, you know, do whatever he need to do to maybe get into to some black and gold. How would you feel about a borough, you know, coming over and being the city and the fill in to get that spot over there for our Pittsburgh Steelers, just as you were put into that spot?

How do you feel about that? How do you feel about that, Ben? Joe Burrow going to the Steelers? Yes, sir. I mean, I don't, I think that, I would call that a pipe dream. I don't think that's a reality. That's what I was, that's why I didn't ask you by no pipe dreams. Okay, well, then, yeah, okay, okay, okay, okay.

I've been talking to this man. Okay. You've been having conversations. That's a no, I mean, my goodness, that'd be a no-brainer. That'd be, you'd jump through hoops for that. That's when that's- There's not enough money. There's not enough money to go around, though.

Hey, hey, Joe, Joe Burrow, listen to it. All of fame, quarterback just told you. It's a no-brainer to come over here to the black and gold. No-brainer. else. Lead the Olympics alone. Come over here and get a Lombardi. Come more, man.

Hey, it seems like, it seems like none of them boys should be playing the Olympics. Man, you see the way that's a different game. That's a different game. The hip dips, the flips, the bending of the knees. It's not, it's not football. Let those guys, let those guys go play. They've been busting their body's flat football.

Let them go win Olympics. Come on, man. And I let the way they have the rosters. Tell him come and get him. a couple of these like we got. We all got two of these. I'd be great. I'd love for Joe Bro to come to Pittsburgh.

Thank you. Thank you. Get you two of these like all of us right here. Ain't that right? Yes, correct. See? I'll be putting you a conversation that you ain't even got no part of though sometimes, Joe. My bad.

I was just kind of, I was seeing Ben and I was saying, you know, my, hey, that was just, I don't. He's so disrespectful, Ben. Listen, look, right now. You know what I'm saying? And you know, I'm a nice guy. I see Cleveland before the show started. I go on the morning. Da-da-da-da-da-da.

I'm like, now, Ben, you know what I'm saying? He's working. He's taking time, Ben. You know what I'm saying? Make sure everything's good. I'm cool, come collected. Debo. Hey, Ben, currently, currently right now,

AFC North. Who do you see Ben, the first team to get a Super Bowl? It depends on who's playing quarterback for the Steelers, but I would still lean towards, I honestly, I think, I think, like, I would probably would have said Baltimore because, you know, I think that they've got a, you know, what they have going on there in Lamar and that. But here's what I'm going to say, I think that their windows closed. Like, I don't think they, I don't, I just, under, I should say it's closing. Yeah.

Closing. Okay. Closing. Obviously, Cleveland isn't even in the, like, we have to ask that one. You just got, we got, okay. No. And Cincinnati, obviously, I like what Joe does with their offensive. is really good, but they're just, like,

given, like, they don't care about their defense, and they don't care about anything there. So, um, and I, and the reason I'm giving this whole breakdown is because I feel like, if I would have just said Pittsburgh, people would be like, oh, that's just, oh, that's just, it's home. It's home. So I'm breaking it down.

And so that's why I would say Pittsburgh, uh, even breaking it all down, I would say Pittsburgh. That's a long-winned answer to say Pittsburgh. Hey, who lasts? Who lasts to give one, though? That's all I want to know. I mean, I mean, huh, ha, ha, ha, ha.

Oh, man. Can I have, can you please let our guests ask questions? That's real rude for you not to let him answer to this question. With all due respect. Do you know what he's going to say when he says with all due respect? No respect. Okay. Joe, when can we golf, man?

You keep ducking me in this golf game, man. See, I'm trying to help you out, Joe. Thank you. Thank you. The weather's changed. It's warm now on the East Coast. So let's get out, please. Okay.

You've been dumping me for a long time. No, no, no. You want some golf. I'm coming to Pittsburgh. I'm coming to Pittsburgh and we're hitting Oakmont. Okay. That's all. Listen, you've been ducking me on the show.

You've been ducking me on the golf course. Like, I'm just trying to figure out what's going on. Never again, brother. Never again. I guess I'm going to. I got you. I got you. He was going on.

Yeah, Debo, you don't. Debo, have you ever hit a golf ball? No. Too slow. I tear the skin off them. I'm trying to tell you that they just don't go straight. Nothing. He's slicing.

They go that way or they go that way. Yeah. Out of bounds. They go far, but just not. They go far to the side. Yeah. Gotcha. Okay.

I'm being serious, man. I hit the clubhouse and I was only like, like maybe 30 yards away from it, but it was like 60, 70 yards off to the right. I banged that month. We can't. We can't bring him to Oklahoma. You know, I pulled my belt swinging that thing. I don't even drive the ball.

I'm trying to tell you, bro, I don't even drive the ball no more. That's how you know you can't be out there golfing. You need to be smooth swinging. Yeah. You're dealt. They tell me to do that, but my mind. You need to be a scramble partner and just be the putter. Yes.

Hey, yep. My putt game. Athletics. You're an athlete. Yeah. My puck game on point, though. I give you a good reed, great caddy. You know what I'm saying?

Hey, Ben, why don't you take him hunting? He ain't a hunter. He ain't a hunter. I've never, never been. Joe's too pretty to go hunting. He smelled too good. Like, he has nice clothes on, that be too smelly. Hey, he's going to come out of the long, scary.

They go smelling before even hit the tail. You know what I'm saying? My scent. My scent. They're going to get the gun. Yeah, you have to hunt birds because the birds can't smell you. There we go. I could do that.

Yeah. Man, what you got going on, Ben? You got anything going on, man? Man, I tell people all the time. I'm my wife's personal assistant. I'm just, I'm just, I'm actually super proud of her. She's finishing seminary right now. She's got a couple of months of seminary left.

So that puts me in charge of the kids. So I'm an Uber driver. Yes. I get you, I mean, it's not stop, which is why I'm going to have to leave this show soon. I go pick the kids up for school. Love it. Helping with home. And then we can come home.

We're going to be doing homework. Chagipt is my friend because I don't know how to do stuff with this homework. How do I figure out this answer? It's unbelievable. So, yeah, doing that, doing the podcast every so often now, obviously footballing with Ben Rotherstberger. Appreciate you coming on that. Debo before and Joe before having you on. Like three years ago, I got to get back on there.

I think we did good. We got some views on that. We had a few hundred thousand. So, yeah, just doing that, man. Just enjoying chasing the kids and helping my wife out doing things around the house. And so just, just, just as busy as I was playing football, my body just doesn't hurt as bad. Oh, man. So, love it.

I love it. My knees were a little sore yesterday, though, because the kids had me up on the playroom playing hockey and I had to play on my knees. So my knees is so far from being on my knee. It's just, you know, too old for this stuff, guys. Man, we're in the same boat. One more question for you, baby. Yeah. We get you out of here.

What's the best advice you got from a veteran when you were a rookie? Oh, man. You know what? It was a long time ago. I would say that, you know, I remember one of the first times I walked in the building, I had, like, my playbook. I'm holding, like, a stack of books and everything. I saw Bussie, Jerome, walks out.

And I was like, oh, dang, that's like, that's Jerome Bettis. You know, like, oh, boy, what do we do here? Do I say something? Do I put my head down? Do I nod? Do I, like, what do I do? Yeah. And he walked over me, he's like, you know, hey, young fellow, I forget exactly what

he said, because I was just probably in all. And he opened my notebook to open the first page, and he wrote Bussie, and he wrote his number. And I was like, oh, he was like, hey, listen, anything. I forgot how he said, anything you've bought, anything you want to buy, I've bought. Anywhere you want to go, I've gone. Anything you want to do, I've done. Reach out to me.

Let me know if I can help in any kind of way, blah, blah, blah. You know what I'm saying? That's a real. And so for that, for Bussy to do that to a young dude who at the time, remember, I was coming in time. Max was the man. Like, he was the starting quarterback. It wasn't like they drafted me to be the day one starter. Yeah.

Now, I was, you know, I was 11 to pick first round, but it didn't, he didn't have to do that. And so I tried to do, like, I tried to take that advice with guys. And I guess who never called him? Do you? Because you don't call, Bussie. Yeah. But hey Bussy, it's Ben, who? Thank you.

You know, Ben. Yeah. Remember they want that who? Yeah, who? But so I try to do that same thing. Take that advice. And I would tell guys the same sort of thing. Like, hey, listen, if I can ever do something for you, you know, is a, is a veteran

a guy who's been here. Here's my information. Please don't ever hesitate to call me, text me, whatever. Very few guys ever do. And I think that's just part of the, you know, it's just, it's hard to do to a vet guy. So that's some advice that I try to take, but I just love that story of Jerome

was just always special to me. I love that. Cool, man. We got you one minute before 12, baby. We're going to let you roll up out of here. But before you go, we got a super chat real quick from Covenant Life. Covenant Life, that's our ace. She said, Ben, we love you.

We are lost without you. Let's go get a GD quarterback. stack, you know what GD is. Why are you saying that covenant life? Watch your mouth. All right. But hey, Ben, we appreciate you coming on with us, man. Thank you, brother, Ben.

Appreciate you, man. Take your time, man. Hey, I know. I know, I got to go pick them up. But I want to say this. Thanks for having me, fellas, first and foremost. No doubt. You know, obviously, I talk a lot about you, Dibo,

but I got nothing but love for both of you guys. You guys have all of my respect, not for what you're doing and you guys as men, but what you guys deal on the football field. Joe, I hated going against you, man. You were one of those dudes that when the game plan, your name was circled every time when you were in Cleveland, which is why when we had the opportunity to get you,

it was like, pouncy, go get him any way you can get him. And loved having you as a teammate because as much as, as good as you were going against you, you were even better as a teammate every day, smiling and just lots of love. So I appreciate both you guys for your friendship and what you guys appear. So for what you guys do and did for my career and help me too. So appreciate you guys. Thank you, brother.

Hey, Joe, you see this right here. That's a personal one. You ain't got one of them. Don't work. Don't hear of him. I'm going to get my jersey. No, you not. No, you not.

Hey, Ben, appreciate you, man. Appreciate you, man. All right, guys. We'll hollade you later, brother. All right. Ben Rothfell's burger, people. Come on, man. That's a good man right there, people.

This is my corner quarterback. You understand. Look here, brother. Look here. Covenant Life. She's back again. $100. Today in today's NFL,

what's the emphasis on protecting the D quarterback? That means damn. Am I supposed to cuss? Or I'm not that supposed to cuss? You tell me, Covenant Life. Do you think your specific Sandlot style of extending plays? Oh, she's talking about being a standlight style of extending plays, taking hits to find the open man is viable,

or has the D-League? move toward a style that would have, stop saying D. Say the word for me, please. Just say the, or move toward a style that wouldn't allow a player like you to thrive anymore. He could thrive in anything that we got going. I think it would do better now because they got so much more protection. Yeah.

He would do even better. It's a big body and you can't really. He could take the, he was getting hit a lot harder. And they were not letting the slide. Right now he's getting protected. And he's still, he's going to hold the ball and make you look crazy. Because now hold it as long as you want. And as soon as you get close, I can still throw it and you hit me in the head.

Oh, my. Wow. Flag, all that. Yes. 15. He would succeed and be able to take less punishment and probably the quarterbacks. They flopping a little bit. Take a fool without your mind.

Mm-hmm. We got. That man, bend. We got McKell Randall back. Five dollars. he said, do you think the Steelers should have drafted a quarterback to learn from Big Ben before he retired? Ben said, Jay Dobbs, do y'all think, what do y'all think of him and Will can, and Will can ball? So me personally, I think we should have got somebody while Ben was there

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I think that's something that we should have we should have did but you know that wasn't I think we got it we know we got a different we got a different group people We've got different people at different positions right now. But, yeah, me personally. What about you?

I think that would have been a good idea. Obviously, hindsight, 2020, you never know when he was going to leave. That picks is always probably a little, you just, when you're in it, they're trying to probably get the best player available, just trying to help get pieces because they're like, we got Ben. But if you think about it, for sure, it would have always been good. But when you're going to get in the first round, like get a first round pick with Ben still there,

and that's going to open up that whole can. of worms. But team-wise, we'll want to get a quarterback just to have a backup plan so when he ends up, a veteran ends up leaving, but, you know, they ain't do it. Yeah, for sure. Dobbs, I don't really know too much about

Dobbs or my... He's saying Josh Dobbs, brother. He's just really... I love Dobbs too. But, like, just because he's been there before, just another quarterback to be on the roster, I don't think he's talking about... I would take Dobbs over.

Mason Rudolph. Okay. No, I like, because he got legs. He got legs. He can run. He can move. You know, I could respect it. I mean, you can't, I just feel like it's like this, though.

Yeah. Six, seven. Mm-hmm. It's just like, yeah, you know, with them. Yeah. Not the bad way. For sure. We got Danny Goose, Goss.

What is that? $6,879, $5. Said, Debo, I have a 92 painting hanging in my, I have a 92 painting. I brought in 2011 on the sidewalk in Baltimore, been hanging in my, been hanging up for 15 years. Can you autograph it? I can autograph it if you can get it to me. Mm-hmm.

That's on. Yep. Check my IG for the email. Boom. And send a message to it. And then we'll figure out what we can do to get that, to get that sign for you. Good man. Good man, brother, Dibbo.

Hey, I ain't going to lie to you, brother. What's up? What's up? $5, though. Going to have to pay for. She's back again. $20. Said, looking back at the gold line driving the Super Bowl, XL.

The one Seattle fan still debate at the exact moment in that play, did you know for sure you had broken the plane? Oh, she's talking about being. regardless of what the camera showed. If the ball touches the line, that is a touchdown. It don't even need to all the way cross through. If it gets into the line, it's a touchdown. It's still a touchdown.

Yes, it is a touchdown. They reviewed it, they showed it, it was a touchdown. Super Bowl number one. That was your, was that your first Super Bowl, too, or was that your, no, you weren't there for that Super Bowl. You were there for the second one. Yeah. Are you?

You was... Damn it. I keep thinking that seven on here and I'm talking to me. No, Debo. You being funny again. But you know what? I got to read one, too. I got to read one of these superchats because...

All right. Ah. Ah. That's going to make us... Debo and Joe, you mentioned DBs in their jersey number yesterday. You talked about the 40s. Don't forget, Mel Blunt, War 47.

Yes. Okay, so look, this one, Mel Blunt, oh, no zero disrespect. That's the best 47. He's the only way you gotta be big, strong, and like, ready to punch people. You gotta be, bro, Mel Blunt, damn near six, man. That's what I'm saying. How was he playing DB? He won't beat somebody up.

That's why he could wait- Hey, that's when you were allowed to whoop on them all the way into the ball was in that, yeah. He wore 47 because that's how gangster he was. Like, nobody, nobody, none of these corners nowadays could wear that 47 because Mel Blunt, he did it. That jersey number needs to be retired for. anybody to ever wear a corner because we can never make it look like that beating people up six six

like really jacking people up because because he can too because the rules let it happen and he was really beating people up all the way that's when you hit him too bro really all that man so my bad on the 40s I'm going to go with male blunt like you say cornerback nobody can wear it again and then Troy Palomalu safeties can rock 40s at the 40s number because I think that it looked sweet 40s 40s not bad 43, Troy Polly, Maloo, 43, my man, T.J. Ward. 47, cornerback, my opinion, unless you're male blunt. Hey, he was big, though. He was huge.

So the 4-7 didn't look like a real 4-7. He didn't look like a whole rap-around, you know, marigold round or something. It looked like he needed to rock that because he had on, like, the pads, the elbow jumps. Like, I'm about to really knock somebody out. Like, yeah, you can't, 4-7. Big body. Yeah, you got to be a big-body. You got to be big-body.

You got you got to be a big body of D.B. That's why you need that thing. You can't be under 6'4 to wear 47 at corner. And that's why. My bad. That's my bad. Mm-hmm. Big dog, Mel Blunt.

He going to run downhill 4-7. Ha! That's all right. And they could, they could really destroy guys back then. Like, no while before that, they used to, that was all rules, brother. They used to be able to just come across and hit you with this. clothes like. Yes. Yes. Yes. Like,

whew. I got to show bro, one of these videos, we want show some jacked up. Jacked up. Remember, they used to play that. Hey, bro. Still here, it's $477. $20.00. He said, hey, Ben, if Rogers doesn't come back, could you suit

up again? Listen, he could suit up. But I'm going to tell you right now. He ain't getting in. Anybody could put the suit on, baby. Anybody could wear the Superman outfit, but can you go out there and do it? Listen, we done.

And listen, he just told you about how his knees was feeling playing hockey with his kids. He's playing hockey with his children in the playroom. In the playroom. These are hurting. Like, and then you want to go out there? Question. Will he hurt? Question.

You know? Listen, I think y'all understand that I say like I'm coming back and you're going say like I'm coming back and all the other stuff. I know you, Debo, you know you play. For me to come back, it's not, it's not possible. It's not human, yes. I got the look. I got the look.

And that's all I'm going for is the look. Looks can be deceiving. Very, very. You got a lot of people out there look like Tarzan and play like James. Come on, man. Talk to me. I'm going for the look. That's it.

If I was to get out there on that field, these are sponge ball muscles. And to be honest with you, I'm kind of iffy, if he, but I think pride would jump in my way. If my sons was like, yo, dad, get down on the line. Let's do, you know, let's do some one-on-one. Now, am I going to do it? It depends how disrespectful he said it.

If I felt like in this heart, you really meant it. That might be my last time to stand up before I can't stand up no more. You know what I'm saying? So I might have to go ahead, get ice down, get stretched out, get warmed up. And how old is your son is in high school or college? High school. High school, that's what I'm saying. So that's what I'm saying?

18 to 16. 18 to 16. Your boys that we, I met. I could take the young one. Okay, the young one for sure. We're talking about you, though, going against your 18-year-old son, you know. I can still work him right now because he's still a little weak. Now, I think about it.

But he ain't going to try that right now because he's still a little weak. He's still recovering. So in a year, in a year, though, I understand. But you know. Like a workout like me, you know, he liked the dirty part, you know, they, you know, my youngest, he's starting to like to grind a little bit too. Okay. You know, I'm just. They don't have to.

I'm telling them right now, listen, listen, I'm going to tell you all right now, don't try me, okay. Don't try me. I'm going to tell you right now. Hey, hey, your mama brought you in. Don't fuck around make me take you out now. See. Yeah? They ain't going to try you, Debo.

Yeah? Hey, Joe. You got about 10 years before old Jetty said, hey, Daddy. Yeah, my man, Jeff. He'll give me something to drink before I pop you in your head, old man. You know, he ain't talking to the, see, there's no type of disrespect coming around here that will not be tolerated in this household. Come on, Debo. You know, we're not rocking like that.

Hey, man, let's say, Joe, he might be filling himself for a second. No, sir. That man will be feeling that man. He'll be taller than you. Yeah. And then he will be smaller than me. I'm just saying, Joe. I will fold.

I will fold it like a launch. Hey, he left weights too. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Okay. There will be no disrespect over here. They're my good man. They know what's up. They love their dad.

They respect their father. He feeling better today? My man is in school right now. Oh, okay. He is in school. Okay. It's way better. He kept on showing everybody.

As soon as his brother come home, hey, you want to come watch the show? I was on Dad's show. Why, bro? Dang. The other one ain't get sick? He ain't get sick today. He was hot.

He was like this. Really, Jen? I'm like, man, Jack. He's going to be sick Friday. He's going to be sick Friday, baby. No, he's going to be sitting right there. Now, he's good. My man, Joe, he was like, no, I'm solid.

I'm good. I'm good. But he's Jet trying to rub it in. Yeah, I was on the show. My Jack. Man, Jeff's funny. Look, kid. Here, baby, man.

We want to thank you guys for joining us on this episode of Debo and Joe. Please make sure you like, subscribe, and download where you get the show. Joe? Yo. Looks like we might have one more chat that just popped up. Okay. What we got? It says right here, we got $5.

Is it GZGO, 1982? Mm-hmm. It says, Two of my guys, love you both. Debo, give Joe a break. I grew up in Ohio as a Pittsburgh Stiller fan. And my big brother, RIP, RIP, was a Browns fan. Love your brother.

Oh, I love him, but that's how I show my love. That's how you show your love. That's how I show my love. You got to realize something, man. If you didn't love, you just be. If I didn't love you, if I didn't care about you, If I didn't have that connection with you, I wouldn't joke with you. I wouldn't talk bad about you because I wouldn't, I wouldn't have that there with you.

I would give you the straightforward. How you doing? Yeah. Oh, yeah. You were not, you would just, how you're doing today, Joseph? Oh, you would give me the fake politician deep. Oh, yeah. Oh, yeah.

Hey, it was really good doing, doing, you know. Hey, Joe, you're messing up this card game, buddy. Come on. Let's play right. No. Uh-uh. Uh-uh. What you doing, bro?

Come on. Oh, man. Okay, okay, okay. That's how you express your love. Hey. Understand. I understand. That's how I express my love, bro.

Respectfully, kind of, you know what I'm saying? That's my new thing. Respectfully kind of. Respectfully kind of. I'm good old bit. Look here, man. We will see you guys on Friday, Joe. Yes, sir.

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